#psyker-class

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gilded ember
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i'll send my build after this match

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not sure if its any good

main wyvern
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guys should i use a surge or voidstrike staff with a smite/illisi setup

halcyon gust
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Both staffs are nice. So pick which one you like the most

main wyvern
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the voidstrike staff has been making me angry not 1 shotting non elites when i charge it up a good amount

halcyon gust
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I use Voidstrike a lot

main wyvern
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but i think it will be harder to maintain disrupt destiny stacks without the voidstrike

cosmic sigil
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i do a classic wildfire, shriek, warp charges build

deft nymph
halcyon gust
main wyvern
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maybe i should swap to warp charges

halcyon gust
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This is roughly my Voidstrike skill tree

dusk void
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Hell yeah 👍. An all psyker Maelstrom

halcyon gust
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Good work Sibling

ember solstice
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What are good perks for maccabian mkiv dueling sword

main wyvern
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hmm should i get warp battery, 15 toughness, or ranged dodge on crit

halcyon gust
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Extra toughness

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Always nice to have a bit more a buffer on taking range fire

main wyvern
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i'm running this now i think

harsh urchin
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Both of those trees kinda suck

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One of them doesnt have kd

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And both don't have true aim

halcyon gust
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I never found a situation where I see real value with KD

harsh urchin
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There should be quite a few tbh

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Most notably after you sprint into a pack of bruisers/ragers and cant immediately kill them all as well as when you need to hold spawn aggro

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There is a reason why most builds have that node

halcyon gust
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Then I must be the rare psyker that sees no value in it

jovial juniper
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Safe revives?!?!

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Damn you're rare rare

harsh urchin
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He also doesnt take PC

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So hes shiny rare lmao

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2 of the best talents in the game tbh

hollow current
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I don't take PC either KEKW_ogryn

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But I'll always take KD.

gilded ember
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is there a blazing spirit t4 blessing?

harsh urchin
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Only for swords

gilded ember
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rip

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okay so i guess i have all t4 blessings for trauma now

cosmic sigil
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Or elite

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I should check the bp

hollow current
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Unyielding to carapace is probably better of the two. I do flak tho.

cosmic sigil
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The only maniac that is real pain is the rager and it's an elite

hollow current
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They take extra damage from maniac already tho. But if crushers/maulers aren't a problem then go for it. You can always change it up anyways

cosmic sigil
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Yeah I have shred and uncanny locked so yeah I am quite lucky

harsh urchin
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Flak doesnt do anything

hollow current
rich spindle
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I take maniac but im still like 50 damage away from mutie one shot on duelling sword

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:|

hollow current
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It takes me 7-8 DD stacks alone. or some weird combo of peril + uncanny + DD.

main wyvern
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guys is it wrong for me to look down upon non force sword users

hollow current
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Don't speak to me or my MK IV DS again.

ember solstice
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Revived teammates 11 times last game

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Karking randoms

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Praise the stat board mod

jovial juniper
ember solstice
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Lmfao

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I use both mkIV dueling sword and an autogun

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but I LOVE brain rupture

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Psyker is literally so fun

fathom totem
ember solstice
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Also Im only level 20

fathom totem
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First char?

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It can't be helped if you are lvling. All people there are at a learning pace.

gilded ember
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the one on the left is new

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what are the best blessings for this staff anyway

ember solstice
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I maxxed veteran

fathom totem
main wyvern
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maybe surge staff isn't too bad

fathom totem
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Soulblaze variant or rending variant.

gilded ember
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okay okay tell me more

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i will try both

fathom totem
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This is rending one.

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What I have.

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I don't use the soulblaze variant. Maybe someone else can chime in here for that.

gilded ember
vale nacelle
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Soulblaze would be barrage—> warp nexus and unyielding —>crit chance on your 2nd staff.

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Oh wait your barrage is locked

gilded ember
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i'll just grind for another one

fathom totem
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This is what I'm running with. Haven't changed it for a year lol.

gilded ember
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okay this is basically what i run

fathom totem
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Might need some improvement. But to lazy atm.

gilded ember
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thank you very much

fathom totem
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yw

wet belfry
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I think i just swapped wildfire for soulstealer, warp battery for kinetic flayer.

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But ye that general type of setup tends to be repeated ad nauseam in builds

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Sometimes disrupt destiny gets picked instead of warp siphon

fathom totem
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To each there own.

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I can't live without my 6 warp charges.

wet belfry
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It took me awhile to appreciate kinetic flayer

naive cedar
fathom totem
dense crow
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Become a chad scrier gaze player

wet belfry
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Scriers gaze is boring

dense crow
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More fun that the snooze fest that is voidstrike

wet belfry
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I can barely even call scriers gaze an abillty

dense crow
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Scriers gaze is really good

wet belfry
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It might aswell be a keystone with how it works currently

wet belfry
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I think scriers gaze has like between a 60% and 70% uptime depending on what triggers.

main wyvern
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this is the best thing i've ever made

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i just won the game

hollow current
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Roll in the Surge blessing when you get it.

naive cedar
midnight turtle
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new to psyker, which blaze sword is the better mk

hollow current
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Deimos for single target. Illisi for horde clear.

midnight turtle
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gotcha

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I'll try out illisi

supple ledge
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worth noting both can do single target and horde clear pretty decently, that's just what each of them specialize in

main wyvern
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why is the surge staff so good

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i never thought highly of it but i am doing so much damage

naive cedar
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what I run for illisi

main wyvern
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i think you want flak/maniac + uncanny

naive cedar
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I like uncanny for weakspot cleave

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for horde clear

rigid sky
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I prefer voidstrike personally but surge is great as a brain-turn-off weapon

cinder moon
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zzzzap

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zzzzzzzzzzap

main wyvern
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voidstrike has been annoying me lately

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so i am trying out surge

sharp flint
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Why use smite when surge is just better

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I don't like smite anymore because surge is just better smite.

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If you have a itch for something that is like smite use surge it's better and has potential to kill.

sharp flint
plucky flax
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Wut

cinder moon
icy garnet
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i still need to make a surge build

still hearth
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Surge away sibling

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Smite actually legit for horde clear if you run EP and Battle Meditation

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Did they fix the smite nodes working on surge staff yet

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The only issue with Smite for horde clear is that it's a waste to use it on small groups

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But against huge clumps it just melts forever

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I generally play with Smite on most builds anyway because BB feels bad and assail is too good not to use

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Smite feels good to have as a pocket pick

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Just play with my staff and sword and use smite in emergencies

supple ledge
still hearth
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Surge is very satisfying

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It doesn't require much aim but you're still doing a fair bit to maximise its efficiency

supple ledge
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EP is definitely the way to go if you want to kill things with it

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also something i learned recently, apparently the +1 jumps only affects left click so if you're using right click surge it kinda sucks, i'd save your point

icy garnet
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so my build wasnt great

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i've been in the purgatus brainrot for a while so im tryna mix up things

supple ledge
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i'd say skip out on both surge nodes and have 2 flexible points

supple ledge
still hearth
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Smite is the ability slot

supple ledge
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sorry i get them confused

lyric burrow
still hearth
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Sad life

supple ledge
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they're both lightning abilities that have s as the starting letter and have e as the last letter

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and they're both 5 letters

still hearth
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And funny enough

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The Surge RMB is called Smite

supple ledge
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agony

still hearth
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It's also why it worked with some nodes (supposedly)

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Idk if anyone confirmed ot

supple ledge
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i still haven't done surge either but i want to try it at some point

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i very much enjoy killing elites in this game

still hearth
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But it was basically identical to Smite but with different values

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Surge is fun. I like the low commitment so you can focus on other stuff

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Especially since I suck at aiming

sharp flint
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Brain Burst isn't bad

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It just requires a little bit of patience.

still hearth
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It feels bad.

icy garnet
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i love brain burst on my purgatus build

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its so fun

still hearth
sharp flint
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You have to pair it correctly

still hearth
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Ain't nobody got time for that

icy garnet
cinder moon
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as a blitz it's pretty bad unless you're doing EP BB, but if you're just using it for warp charge stuff, it's great

sharp flint
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Well it's not bad it's about timing

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And I mostly use it for crushers my team cannot get.

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You have to pre-charge brain burst.

still hearth
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It's awkward to lock on. It's awkward to pre charge. It's just a bit too slow

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Otherwise I'd use it

icy garnet
still hearth
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I don't think it's awful

icy garnet
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it charges slower by precharging

still hearth
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But I don't enjoy it

icy garnet
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it charges faster if u lock intosomething

still hearth
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By almost a full second, iirc

sharp flint
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It pairs well with surge staff

icy garnet
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ideally u wanna peak out for a second click on something and kill it behind cover

still hearth
icy garnet
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its great at killing things like snipers

sharp flint
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I kill mutants all the time with it.

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Crushers also I use brain burst on

still hearth
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It's basically only crushers and snipers I'd ever use it for

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And assail is better for the latter

icy garnet
still hearth
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And staves are usually better for the former

icy garnet
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i like kt

sharp flint
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The charge takes a minute otherwise it would be way too overpowered

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Then they would have to nerf it.

still hearth
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They need to make the LMB and RMB different

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Make the LMB instant but less damage and more peril cost.

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Snap away lowers

icy garnet
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i think its fine rn

sharp flint
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Brain Burst is fine it has a little bit of a skill gap

still hearth
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It's just not worth it most of the time, to me.

icy garnet
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to you

still hearth
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Yea

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It's an opinion

icy garnet
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i find it pretty good paired with smth like purgatus

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its probably not meta or anything but its fine

sharp flint
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I use surge with it

icy garnet
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and thats okay

still hearth
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It's not lacking viability. It's just a bit too slow for me to feel good about it

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And what it does already has a bunch of answers

icy garnet
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i find the speed to be fine with enhanced blitz personally

sharp flint
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Not that slow it's just not a horde clearing tool.

icy garnet
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its a bit slow without though

sharp flint
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It's a little sluggish but it isn't that slow to not time it.

still hearth
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2 seconds feels like forever

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Especially when Surge charges in like 0.5s

icy garnet
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surge doesnt have unlimited range and takes a weapon slot though

sharp flint
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2 seconds seems like a fair trade off

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For something that nearly two taps crushers

icy garnet
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and it also doesnt oneshoot

icy garnet
still hearth
sharp flint
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Yeah my build is made to two tap things.

icy garnet
still hearth
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21m is more than enough for most maps

sharp flint
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Keyword most

still hearth
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Like 90% of levels

icy garnet
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being able to just just a see in a horde of ennemy and just go i click on him for a second and go back behind cover is good

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a sniper in a horde*

sharp flint
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It's overpowered

still hearth
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Assail be like brrr

sharp flint
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Assail annoys me.

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It has a ammo cool down too

still hearth
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Assail does the ranged picks better than BR

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And BR doesn't do enough damage on big targets for me to want it

sharp flint
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Two tap is bad?

icy garnet
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i dunno what else you'd want lol

sharp flint
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If they buffed it would be overpowered

icy garnet
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one tap ragers too

sharp flint
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It one taps most things and it's not a tool made to kill hordes.

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It picks off the most dangerous targets typically

wind spruce
still hearth
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6s to kill a crusher.

sharp flint
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That's faster then a zealot fighting a crusher

still hearth
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And you're slowed during it

sharp flint
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Skill issue?

still hearth
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It's just not engaging at all

wind spruce
still hearth
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Surge supremacy

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No charge time

sharp flint
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Yes it does

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It has charge time what are you talking about.

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I have used it quite a bit and it's not instant.

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It feels about the same time as bb.

still hearth
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What

wind spruce
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They obviously didn't mean that literally

still hearth
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It's 4x faster than BB

wind spruce
sharp flint
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I mean it's sluggish but it doesn't suck.

still hearth
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Unless you use EP and reduced charge time

lyric burrow
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even EP reduced charge time isnt flurry surge

sharp flint
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Yeah that's how things work blitz are build based.

lyric burrow
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maybe base

wind spruce
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Why the fuck are we comparing a staff to a blitz

lyric burrow
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i think its just the charge time but idk i just got here

sharp flint
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Because brain burst is basically like using a staff with it's charge time.

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Out of all the blitz it feels like using the staff.

still hearth
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Even the slowest staff charge

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Is almost twice as fast

sharp flint
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Twice as fast but the power level of brain burst is superior

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The damage isn't too bad on it with what it does.

wind spruce
still hearth
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I'm confused.

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Most staves are multi target

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Surge is considerably faster than BR

sharp flint
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It feels about the same with my build.

still hearth
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BR is fine as a side hussle if you really have no range and no one can kill ranged dudes. But I'd barely ever want it otherwise.

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If you like it, that's fine

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I don't like it

wind spruce
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The assumption is that you need to fill the niche, you need to atleast be somewhat capable of doing the thing if that team-mate isn't available

radiant frigate
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always assume the rest of your team is stupid or just not there

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fill every niche

potent echo
hidden crystal
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I'm not sure what I did to offend Hadron quite so badly.

crude vortex
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Take a shower, varlet. She probably saw your stink radiation

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(joking)

paper loom
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whats better maniac or flak?

quartz barn
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Shes not wrong

untold niche
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does surge two tap crusher on 4 ws stack?

wind spruce
untold niche
upper sun
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they really need to debloat siphon

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its not even that great compared to some of the crap vet and zealot have

untold niche
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i think they don't want to make it like 3 points for 6 stacks because they want to reward using DD more

rigid sky
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Just put the damage node into the first node

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Merge them

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Make it a 4 point investment

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Since it's buried under unimpactful shit too

wind spruce
untold niche
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i think fs makes more conscious effort into balancing than everyonne claims

wind spruce
rigid sky
untold niche
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can you screen shot what is pschinetic

rigid sky
untold niche
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my bad

cosmic sigil
untold niche
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t]

rigid sky
wind spruce
rigid sky
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That you can't take if you have Assail

untold niche
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i never noticed that
Imagine you kill 6 gunners within 2 seconds of assail your CD just like halves

wind spruce
untold niche
wind spruce
untold niche
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i see, why do you think ws is 5 points tho

wind spruce
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Because it's so good

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45% off your cooldown is bonkers

rigid sky
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Spamming shriek

untold niche
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but gaze ;-;

rigid sky
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Is fucking nuts

untold niche
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doesnt even work with gaze

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very sad

wind spruce
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Well yeah it's useless with gaze

rigid sky
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Gaze and warp Siphon are not buddies

wind spruce
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That is indeed sad

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@rigid sky my hot take for tonight is that kinetic deflection is the most overrated skill point in the psyker tree and that I'd rather have solidity

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Fite me

rigid sky
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Kinetic Deflection is one of those talents where when you take it, it never ends up being useful

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and when you don't take it you really miss it

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mostly these days it helps me on revives and if I end up with a pogryn or cspawn stuck to me

untold niche
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personally i would rather have solidity as well :v

wind spruce
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I can't disagree at all

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Which is disappointing

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Heh

rigid sky
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I do still find that when I need it, I really need it though

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solidity I've never felt

untold niche
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i don't think its a hot take
I think its natural for people to want to take things that empower them rather than save them from danger

radiant frigate
rigid sky
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I like having puppet master

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but it's a luxury point

untold niche
wind spruce
radiant frigate
wind spruce
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I think your brain just adjusts to not having solidity, but when you actually look at the timing differences you realise you're losing a lot of seconds without ut

radiant frigate
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therefore i do not pick either

wind spruce
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I manually quell like every 2s

untold niche
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when i was levelling.

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felt like a actual power spike

radiant frigate
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i would agree it is good on surge

untold niche
radiant frigate
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but that is because surge builds peril like there is no tomorrow

wind spruce
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Yeah some builds it's not necessary

rigid sky
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If you're running shriek it's quite underwhelming imo

wind spruce
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Playing assail voidstrike it's really nice

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Because that builds peril like crazy too

rigid sky
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since with shriek it's often a struggle to actually get your peril to spike when you need it do

radiant frigate
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assail maybe

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voidstrike no

wind spruce
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I specifically meant them together

radiant frigate
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as did i

wind spruce
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And tbh anything where you're assail weaving properly

radiant frigate
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voidstrike is very light on peril and assail isn't exorbitant

wind spruce
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Its not light on peril when you're spitting out two shards every void shot

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That's like 40%

wind spruce
radiant frigate
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that's my secret, i'm always high on peril

wind spruce
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I peril edge way too hard tbh

radiant frigate
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because illisi and voidstrike build it so slowly that if i want to apply shriek quickly i legitimately cannot exist otherwise

wind spruce
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My semi conscious brain considers shooting voidstrike at less than 97% failure, I have to really tell myself that 85% is a perfectly fine threshold to hit

wind spruce
radiant frigate
wind spruce
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If you're staying high peril then it might aswell be low peril resist

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No downside

radiant frigate
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no real consequence either way since you cannot pick your stats

wind spruce
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You can look for a force sword with low peril resist the same way you can look for any weapon with a particular dumpstat

radiant frigate
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sure you can look

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but you have zero impact on what you get

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because the crafting system, while improved since release, is still godawful

halcyon gust
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Hadron will brick any good weapons you get anyways unless she is feeling nice

rigid sky
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essence harvest feels a lot more valuable

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you want peril to flux as fast as possible imo

wind spruce
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But not because it's more valuable per se

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Bc tbh 6% toughness per second is fucking nothing

tiny oracle
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i cant make up my mind so ill ask for help here, if you had to choose between t4 warp nexus and t4 warp flurry (the other one being t3) what would you choose?

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on a purgatus staff

halcyon gust
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T4 warp nexus

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Might as well give yourself more chances to crit (Crits add 2 stacks of soul blaze on a target versus 1)

tiny oracle
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thanks, havnt been able to roll a t4 on a good staff yet, but i rolled t3 on both on one

halcyon gust
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THe nature of Hadron

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T3 versions will still get the job done

tiny oracle
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yea, i can re-bless only one of them to t4

halcyon gust
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Okay Melky. WTF is this showing up on all my classes today

worn beacon
halcyon gust
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It's usually let 1 cook in the background

untold niche
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i reroll this and books

halcyon gust
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I been rerolling books as I see them

worn beacon
halcyon gust
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X missions deathless depend on how the pub groups I'm getting on Damnation is

worn beacon
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The solution

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Speedrun not damntation difficulties

untold niche
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i don't like to purposely fulfill contracts so i just reroll them if i think i can't get it playing normally

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like on zealot i will reroll 200 scab kills with ranged

radiant frigate
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on zealot i will reroll the class

halcyon gust
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Zealot is my "Oh shit I need more Melk bucks" button

radiant frigate
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i don't currently spend melkbucks

halcyon gust
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Melk has been getting some decent stuff on my rotations with workable weapons out of the box or having blessings I'm missing

upper sun
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plasteel dimantine no death mission and boss kills are the best to do

upper sun
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im down if anyone wants to speed run missions for contacts btw

worn beacon
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I'd be up to speedrun missions for vet penance but I am off pc now

upper sun
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the two guys who were grinding the assassination frame retired

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the speedrunning community will never be the same

supple ledge
halcyon gust
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Be glad there's no Deamon hosts on T1 and T2 difficulty

supple ledge
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trust me, they'll find a way

halcyon gust
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So that's one instant death trap gone

supple ledge
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in my experience doing that in pubs is a dice roll regardless of difficulty

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1-3 is maybe doable, anything past that is instant reroll material

halcyon creek
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Zero deaths is never guaranteed, but i have had a lot of success in diff3

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Like me, a lot of those players know they won’t be able to go deathless in diff4+. So they’ve been hanging around diff3 for a while now

halcyon gust
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Zero deaths is either free as all fuck or a pain in the ass for me

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Never inbetween

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I either get the most elite kill squad or a bunch of Krieg cosplayers

half iron
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we need more tunnel visioned cadia vets‼️💯🗣️🗣️

halcyon creek
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I wonder if that’s due to the attention-prioritization needed to succeed at a L4D clone

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If people can’t get the flamers/bombers dead before they zone you out, the game goes down the toilet real fast

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Especially when the map swaps factions

upper sun
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everyone i got today was level 30

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i did 4 missions in like an hour and bit

halcyon gust
halcyon creek
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Oh yeah, time of day and time of week definitely matters

halcyon gust
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All it takes is 1 bad dog or trapper to start the dominos to failure

upper sun
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7 assassination missions and one damnation youll be done with weeklies asap

halcyon gust
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Counterpoint: Plasteel HibikiSip

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Gonna need a lot of it for later

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And I do contracts passively in the background. I don't rush to beat them ASAP

upper sun
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if you speed run you get like 20-60 per mission

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and the lowest i got in damnation was 600 aside from vent/power outage

halcyon gust
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Lowest Damnation Plasteel total I got was....200

upper sun
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sounds like you dont play zealot enough

halcyon gust
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Because I had 3 blind rats that couldn't be trusted to be out of my sight for .5 seconds

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Or else they would stupid themselves badly

halcyon gust
upper sun
upper sun
upper sun
halcyon gust
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I ride a mission until success or failure

upper sun
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if the crafting system wasnt so grindy i would

halcyon gust
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Besides I love a good tale to tell my mates on a epic clutch or how badly a mission goes horribly south

upper sun
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that can happen with 700 plasteel too

supple ledge
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stealth zealot is pretty fun for clutching

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i just can't see myself ever truly swapping from chastise chain axe tho

halcyon gust
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Zealots fall under 3 catagories

  • Sneaky Basterds that only support themselves
  • The supporter Zealot
  • The Bonkers
supple ledge
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i shall cleave through all of them for the glory of khorne i mean big e

cinder moon
halcyon gust
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Generally a supporter

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There's probably a few more Zealot catagories, but those are the main 3 I see

rigid sky
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You get brawlers too

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fury of the faithful enjoyers with crushers or heavy swords

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that kinda thing

sharp flint
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I clutched with my psyker

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Chainsword on psyker is fun

gilded ember
wind spruce
onyx sentinel
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why do all force staff skins suck

#

if you're gonna do fomo shop at least put up some good shit

wind spruce
fallow yacht
#
  • Does Enfeeble apply +10% bonus to the Smite dmg itself?
  • Does Enfeeble proc on right click wide lightning (it used to not I think)?
#

@indigo portal ?

hollow current
#

The first force staff with the eye was pretty good.

gilded ember
#

thank you very much

gilded ember
quartz barn
#

Just use the weapon customization mod and make your own staff

#

Or use an unused skin

#

Boom youve now conquered fomo

main wyvern
quartz barn
#

Simply google, or just ask around in the darktide modders server

untold niche
#

as a levelling vet its very hard for me to not run infront when i have like +6 stamina bars from curios

ember solstice
#

How do yall play the game without getting absolutely shredded by ranged enemies 😭

jovial juniper
#

Take cover

#

Kill the stalkers

spice veldt
#

shlerp up the toughness regen talents and spam dodges

#

and playing assail

dusk void
quartz barn
#

Dodging helps, and if you get stunlocked try to run to the side to break their targeting

spice veldt
#

(i-frames)

#

only dodging with spacebar breaks targeting, and that only works on stalkers

green pilot
quartz barn
#

Elite gunners will still instakill you if you get unlucky tho

green pilot
#

Not rly

ember solstice
#

Yeah the gunners get me a lot when I target them sometimes

quartz barn
#

Yes rly, but might be AM only

green pilot
#

Play with some armor regen and have some good talent that gives free armor and u should be able to tank them decently enough

spice veldt
#

truly a humbling moment when you're out of position and forget that enemies will tend to aggro on you if you damage them

green pilot
#

Then as other people said

#

Abuse slide and dodge

quartz barn
#

Just kill everything before it can kill you thumbsup_ogryn

ember solstice
quartz barn
#

But ye dodge slide trivializes the entire game

#

Bonus points if you run the extended dodge range for more i frames

spice veldt
#

fyi that only works against melee attacks and specifically for the "linger time" after your dodge ends, which is 0.25s or whatever by default for psyker

green pilot
#

Tho usually if u have a good vet on ur team, the gunners don't last long

spice veldt
#

assuming it's 0.25s, +50% takes that to 0.375s

#

still neat but albeit only against melee attacks

quartz barn
#

Eh you dodge out of the enemies range anyway

spice veldt
#

damn you're right

#

(unless the value gets overwritten somewhere else)

lunar hollow
#

i remember tyr talking about it back when p13 came out

quartz barn
#

Honestly its not even about getting melee'd, but about getting staggered and losing your flow

halcyon gust
still hearth
#

Slide

#

Run

#

Dodge

halcyon gust
#

Deflector blessing on a force sword

#

So many ways

ember solstice
#

Funny enough my kit is almost exclusively non psyker

#

Wait I think I said that yesterda-

long stone
#

Tac axe on psyker>Virgin dueling sword

rigid sky
#

If on purgatus I survive with empathic evasion

#

If on Trauma I survive with bubbles

#

On the rest, just kill the bastards

rich spindle
#

Dueling sword is too easy

rich spindle
#

The ultimate redpill in this game is that you dont have to constantly push up, and can even constantly fall back

halcyon gust
#

There's a time to push and time to hunker down for a few moments

rich spindle
#

I never push unless its to get out of a bad corner 💯💯

mighty olive
#

Siblings, I need some shared energy. I somehow fucked up my neck and upper back and I'm not able to sit at my desk

#

Slaying heretics withdrawal, halp

halcyon gust
#

Sibling it is important to take care of yourself. Your Physical, Mental, and Emotional health is important

mighty olive
#

Much appreciated sibling ❤️

upper sun
mighty olive
#

I had sciatica pain going down my left leg, that went away thank the emperor, but the pain in my neck/right shoulder got worse T_T

upper sun
#

its not a bad idea to stretch your back every once n a while after being seated for so long

mighty olive
#

Yuh I did that, now I'm crippled xD I hate getting old!

upper sun
#

the saddest seer/ogryn interaction

mighty olive
#

Awww >_<

icy garnet
#

whats the difference between smite lmb and rmb

upper sun
#

ones targeted the other is aoe but needs to be charged

#

i would imagine the targeted one generates less peril but im not much of a smite guy

icy garnet
#

how the fuck are you supposed to use surge and smite

#

i dont get it

#

it feels so ass compared to purgatus i have to be missing something

rigid sky
#

And illisi

thin finch
rich spindle
thin finch
#

Smite the ability is a crowd control tool, to use when there is 30 rager popping around the corner or giving some room around the downed guys while someone go for the rez .
LMB use it quickly, once the guy does the "I'm zapped" animation ,release it and you'll throw the dude to the ground ,switch and kill
RMB is for group, charge it, stun them all and either keep it up while your friend are moping up or release it to push them down and kill them

rigid sky
#

I just use Surge to hold assholes in place while I wait for Shriek to cool down and to build peril for it

thin finch
#

Surge staff, point at the solid guy, release it and do damage

#

shrimple

rich spindle
#

Smite is generally only good in those two scenarios

thin finch
rich spindle
#

Surge is the staff name, smite is the blitz lol

thin finch
# rich spindle I agree

I assume there are other scenario where it might be usefull , I like it at the twin boss to give a bit of breating room between the name

thin finch
rich spindle
#

Im confused now

thin finch
#

Nah, I think you're right, but I often mix the two

#

Both are electric , start with S

#

really confusing stuff

rich spindle
#

Yeah i get crushers and maulers confused too

#

Its like. The same verb

#

And i think maulers say "im gonna crush you"

upper sun
#

no the mauler says "its maulin' time"

rich spindle
#

Thats awesome

paper loom
#

whats good for a revolver Carapace, flak , maniac or unyielding? i have flak and carapace but i can change 1

upper sun
#

what blessings do you have on it?

icy garnet
#

after playing a bit i get what smite is supposed to do

#

no issue with that one

#

surge is weird tho

#

i dunno how to use that staff

upper sun
#

360 no scopes with charged attack

rigid sky
thin finch
#

shrimple really

rigid sky
#

It's like a voidstrike with no aiming and no penetration

icy garnet
#

is it even good on higher difficulties

#

it feels like theres too much things to be able to do that

thin finch
#

I think it became the biggest single target weapon for Brain peps ?

icy garnet
#

so i just end up needing to smite everything due to ennemy density

#

always feel like i cant just take time to kill ennemies one by one

rigid sky
#

Tbh I prefer Voidstrike in every way

#

But it's still good

frail harness
# icy garnet surge is weird tho

1: Are you using the crit talents at the top of the tree? (LMB has very good crit rate)

2: are you animation cancelling the RMB charge?

3: are you using the general purpose movement techs for staffs?

paper loom
thin finch
dusk void
upper sun
rigid sky
#

Trash shooters, yes

frail harness
rigid sky
#

But hordes no

paper loom
rich spindle
#

Surge is worse than void and trauma overall imo

paper loom
#

weird surge is my fv staff

rich spindle
#

You get cucked on mixed hordes

paper loom
#

use assail for hordes staf ffor single

rich spindle
#

The thing is when theres a bunch of trash around maulers and crushers. It feels way better to just voidstrike or trauma rmb

dusk void
frail harness
#

This vid made me way better at surge

#

Along with the animation cancel

paper loom
#

question not about Darktide, has onyone got CoD MW3? if so can you use the weps from mw2 with your camos i cant get a clear answer online

dusk void
icy garnet
icy garnet
upper sun
#

whats the safe cast for bb again?

#

96?

frail harness
frail harness
upper sun
#

ye crit rate is so high you can keep them up

frail harness
#

And here's the cancel

mighty cipher
#

Bloodthirsty is a good blessing I will not hear otherwise

tribal girder
#

which mod is used to kill the pysker overcharge screen effect and audio?

broken carbon
icy garnet
#

what blessing yall running on surge

rigid sky
radiant frigate
#

not many options on surge

#

so just get the ones that don't suck

plucky flax
untold niche
#

clad are u a student?

#

see you online alot recently

untold niche
plucky flax
#

tru

frail harness
upper sun
dusk void
mighty cipher
#

I'm one 50/50 away from a perfect perk/blessing purgatus staff

icy garnet
#

ok i finnaly understood how to use smite and surge

#

i dunno what im doing but its been feeling way better

mighty cipher
#

YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

PERFECT STAFF

icy garnet
#

is there any reason to use smite lmb

#

if you're using surge

#

what do i replace the flak armor with

upper sun
#

more flak

lyric burrow
#

flak is good

#

can swap to 25% tho

#

since blessings are perfect

icy garnet
lyric burrow
#

i prefer unyielding/flak but crit chance is fine too

#

people run cara/crit/unyielding

#

maniac too

#

can test stuff and see what you like the best

upper sun
#

but flak is the priority

#

surge is a lot like purge it targets the base armor type most enemies have flak as a base stat so thats pretty much a straight out buff for the secondary attack

still hearth
#

(Except VERY niche situations)

frosty helm
#

Damnn??

still hearth
#

Pog.

#

Now ruin it in crafting, sibling.

tribal girder
#

which mod is used to disable the pysker overcharge screen effect and audio?

still hearth
#

Surely it couldn't be

spice veldt
#

peril fx can be tweaked natively in options > interface

upper sun
long wharf
#

I wouldn't celebrate quite yet

#

wait until Hadron gets ahold of it

upper sun
#

I am a believer ROLL IT

long wharf
#

by the time she's done, it'll just be a spicy buttplug

#

non-sequitor, if anyone here enjoys ARPGs, Last Epoch is 100% worth getting

#

it's a proper love letter to Diablo2 that Blizzard couldn't do

frosty helm
#

No longer on DT currently but I will post when I do upgrade

long wharf
#

@frosty helm why the ".V"?

frosty helm
#

‘Vakarian’

#

From mass effect :)

long wharf
#

you misunderstand my question

#

people don't normally put a period inbetween a first and last name

#

abbreviations (shortened variations) use a period

#

so you should be "Garrus V."

frosty helm
#

Oh lol

long wharf
#

I am well aware of the character and Mass Effect, it being my all time favorite sci-fi game

frosty helm
#

I have ogryn grade grammer

long wharf
#

say no more.

#

I have an N7 jacket that I wear daily

#

and one of the limited edition "diver style" Alliance watches

#

a couple figurines

frosty helm
#

I’d kill for one the striped hoodies

long wharf
#

I've made Mass Effect mods for games

#

and I love the universe/lore

#

they aren't too expensive

#

unless they aren't making any more

upper sun
#

mass effect is goated

long wharf
#

oh, and I have a hat, Jokey's SR2 cap

#

which they don't make any more

#

I made a Mass Effect digital watch face on Facer

#

so, yeah, I know what Mass Effect is

upper sun
#

the better question is

#

liara or miranda

long wharf
#

Jack

#

hold on

upper sun
#

the correct answer was both

#

also which mods did you make?

long wharf
#

damn, can't find the meme I want

upper sun
#

its the buttshot isnt it?

long wharf
#

I made the original Starbound Mass Effect Edition mod

#

waaaay back when

radiant frigate
upper sun
long wharf
#

two other guys contributed stuff, but I'm the one that brought their work together, added my own, made it a single experience

upper sun
#

starbound was great its a shame they overpromised and underdelivered

radiant frigate
upper sun
#

ye that was like one of the first mods

long wharf
#

Jack's character arc was the most natural, with Ashley being second

#

they did Jack dirty in ME3

upper sun
#

yeah ikno

radiant frigate
#

ME3 is definitely a game

upper sun
#

they did a lot of people dirty in ME3

long wharf
#

it's a very good game, but it was propped up by the greatness of the first two

upper sun
#

all the trillions of aliens stuck in sol forced to eat eachother

long wharf
#

it wasn't a good RPG, but it was a fun shooter

radiant frigate
#

anyway best character is obviously garrus

#

(we do a bit of calibrating)

long wharf
#

only if you have the flexibility.

upper sun
#

also horrible idea forcing people to play the multiplayer to get resources for the single player

#

eventho the multiplayer was REALLY fun

long wharf
night ferry
#

We'll bang, okay?

radiant frigate
#

however, shoutout to mordin solus

long wharf
#

I played the multiplayer for months

radiant frigate
#

(he is the very model of a scientist salarian)

long wharf
#

a real shame it wasn't brought back for Legendary Edition

upper sun
#

i played the multiplayer demo to death

#

yeah i wish

radiant frigate
#

(he studied species turian, asari and batarian)

upper sun
#

the issue was people were mad at it being involved in the single player not it being part of the game

#

EA didnt get that

radiant frigate
#

(his xenoscience studies reach from urban to agrarian)

long wharf
#

please stop

upper sun
#

ye ikno its been years but it still hurts

long wharf
#

EA also thought it fine to have day 0 DLC

#

oh I can still be brought up to a proper seethe about the ME3 endings

upper sun
#

dlc that was also in the base game and 80% done

#

shout out to hour collector homie

long wharf
#

and the character had recorded dialog by NPCs that you couldn't hear without the DLC active

radiant frigate
#

what

long wharf
#

yep

#

Javik had dialog at specific parts of the game that could impact your understanding of the story

#

especially on Thessia

upper sun
#

i'll never forgive bioware i cant wait to see how they fuck up ME4 after that game that must not be mentioned

long wharf
#

I brought Javik and Liara to Thessia my first playthrough

#

it's not the same company any more

#

hasn't been for a very long time now

radiant frigate
upper sun
long wharf
#

I hold no expectations for ME4

upper sun
long wharf
#

Bioware lost all of my good will with Anthem

radiant frigate
#

is that even a thing

night ferry
#

Bringing Legion to Tali's trial in ME2

long wharf
#

and Andromeda was barely a game, let alone a ME game

upper sun
long wharf
#

she and all the human NPCs had "tired face"

#

but what do you expect from a nepotism appointment?

#

"you can take charge of this unique explorative and survival situation... because you're my daughter/son"

upper sun
#

oh i never even played it

long wharf
#

Andromeda was the bastard step-child of the ME games

upper sun
#

pretty sure they killed legion in ME3 because his quest was very missable

long wharf
#

made by a group of devs more comfortable with multiplayer games than RPGs

#

uh, Legion didn't die in my playthroughs

upper sun
#

yeah same

long wharf
#

in fact, you have to do up to 7 key things right across all three games in order for Legion and Tali to both live in ME3

upper sun
#

you had to do everything before the reaper IFF?

long wharf
#

yuuuup

#

it's the super-good-guy-to-everybody win

#

oh wait, Legion dies no matter what you do in ME3

#

in the name of individualism

#

which I thought was a major copout

upper sun
#

the issue was because of xbox they had to split up some stuff into another disk or something

long wharf
#

nah, it was Casey Hudson

#

who didn't actually understand the driving themes behind the games

upper sun
#

his quest ended up being put after some stuff so it was kinda late and people ended up missing it because of the collector base timer

long wharf
#

Shepard spends 3 games proving that synthetics can be people too, and that they can be worked with like people, but good 'ol Casy Hudson thought the driving theme for Mass Effect was "synths vs organics"

upper sun
long wharf
#

yeah, it's really "We're all just people"

#

except Batarians, fuck those guys

#

they get Arrival'd

upper sun
#

lmao

cosmic river
#

anyone else think psykers sill need like a damage boost?

upper sun
upper sun
#

warp siphon imo needs some trimming tho

long wharf
#

who said that?

radiant frigate
#

clearly we are playing different classes if you think this

cosmic river
#

psykers are more utillity but every other class can do that but more.

#

idk, i think theyre still in a bad spot

radiant frigate
#

psyker does an absolute ton of damage

#

you're baiting

cosmic river
#

have you played them recently?

crude vortex
#

epic troll

radiant frigate
#

have you?

long wharf
#

just look at his name and profile pic, you know he's a massive troll

cosmic river
#

yeah

long wharf
#

not worth engaging

upper sun
#

there is nothing utilitarian about this

cosmic river
#

just saying ogrins and zealots are doing cc better with more damage and a higher survival rate then psykers rn and you say , yeah psykers are op and need a nerf

upper sun
#

hadron is clearly having a bad day im not gonna bother

long wharf
#

I haven't started up Darktide in weeks, now

#

Last Epoch is so good, and Darktide seriously needs updates before I'm going to grace it with more of my time

upper sun
#

i'm just trying to grind up to 1mil dockets before taking a break for the crafting update

long wharf
#

I wouldn't expect a crafting update for 6 months or more

upper sun
#

yeah i know

halcyon gust
icy garnet
#

hadron going to go homeless with the crafting update

upper sun
#

they need to add hadron to the meat grinder

crude vortex
#

NO + NO

#

LEAVE HER ALONE

still hearth
#

That would make the game way better.

long wharf
#

FartShack doesn't want to admit they fucked up

#

opening a second perk/blessing slot is "catering to the community", removing all slot locks would be "violating their creative vision"

#

of which they really don't have any

deft nymph
crude vortex
#

lovely....

#

hold on why does the

#

never mind

halcyon gust
novel bane
#

Say, one small question. What would be the best excursion to do the Malleus Monstonum penance for the storm witches redemption raiment? I'm level 16 if that matters

halcyon gust
#

I would say wait until you're much higher level

#

Mostly to have more skill points to pad your build out

novel bane
#

Ah okay thank you

upper sun
cosmic sigil
#

You don't really need godrolls to do auric

frosty helm
#

550 ain’t possible 😔 but still happy with the outcome

tacit bobcat
#

now pet hadron 4 doing a good job

frosty helm
#

Now the question is, surge or flurry?

mighty olive
fallow yacht
#

Does Enfeeble apply +10% bonus to the Smite dmg itself? And does right click apply Enfeeble (I think it used to be bugged)? Anyone? @indigo portal ?

upper sun
#

I think it should

frail harness
upper sun
#

go into meat grinder and try it

indigo portal
upper sun
#

if you asked 10 minutes ago i could have while the game was open

fallow yacht
#

@indigo portal @upper sun not that easy to reliably test... but it seems it applies to itself; left click without it goes like 6 22 28, with it 6 24 30

upper sun
#

yeah thought it would

indigo portal
fallow yacht
upper sun
#

eh imo its really not worth it

fallow yacht
#

well, that's another matter

#

but I spawned and aggroed 50 bruisers in Psyk confident I can fuck them up with sword... I can't

the same 50 bruisers die safely within 20s with Smite / Psionics... so I cautiously consider giving it a try

indigo portal
upper sun
#

most times in game they wouldnt be that close to eachother and youd have stuff coming at you from all sides

fallow yacht
#

yeah; single fucking slave rats stabbing you in the back are a concern with it

#

but it might be useful tool in some situations, one that I overlooked earlier

dusk void
#

lol

upper sun
#

Win11 looks awful

cosmic sigil
#

Dark mode is better

near bobcat
#

i know lasguns aren't popular right now but this looks pretty solid if it ever gets buffed

untold niche
#

whathaoppened

still hearth
#

Just the news of them planning to make changes to the crafting system

eager mantle
#

Removing all dmg perks and blessings and providing good stuff would be great

spice veldt
#

just making the damage stuff more conditional is good step since damage buffs are going to be a core staple of game like this

#

just that we shouldn't get them for practically free

limber silo
#

I am very much an advocate for interesting skills in games. I am a Monster Hunter veteran and I hate Attack Boost and Critical Eye because they are boring and mandatory if you want to be killing as fast as possible. One of my favorite skills is Sneak Attack which gives you up ot 20% damage as long as you are hitting the backend of a monster. That skill is actually engaging and encourages positioning instead of brainless skill stuffing

radiant frigate
ember solstice
wind spruce
#

I also tested it with decimal values added to the health bars

#

The 16 damage ticks go to 18.6 as you'd expecg

elfin owl
#

So the general idea of a psyker is that we are support and not focusing on DPS?

rigid sky
#

Usually psyker damage is nuts actually

#

Your ranged mostly defines you

elfin owl
#

Up close and personal?

rigid sky
#

I mean most psyker ranged weapons are limited range

#

I just mean, it's that weapon that defines you

#

Typically we have poor boss damage in particular though unless you go with a gun and the SG/DD build

#

But trauma and purgatus staves annihilate crowds

#

Voidstrike and Surge nuke

elfin owl
#

Do psyker stay away from guns?

rigid sky
#

Gun psyker is quite popular now

#

It's unorthodox but a lot of fun and very powerful

#

You do end up being even more of a glass cannon than usual

candid patrol
#

I like guns on pysker to pop off momentum passive for the 4% warp damage boost

dim parrot
icy garnet
#

how do u build voidstrike or trauma

#

crit chance for void like surge ?

elfin owl
#

My style is more zealot/veterans with gun control

dim parrot
limber silo
half iron
#

gunpsyker is epic

cosmic sigil
elfin owl
dim parrot
#

then my build definitely isn't for u lol

rigid sky
#

The funny thing about peril is that nowadays you're incentivised to edge it close to 100

#

Also Shriek is usually the best ult anyway even without the crutch properties

radiant frigate
#

shriek most goodest

upper sun
#

why does vet ult stagger bosses but not shriek

rigid sky
#

Vet ult doesn't set them on fire :)

dim parrot
#

nah the real one's be gazing

upper sun
dim parrot
#

lmao

#

the chad scream

radiant frigate
#

not too fond of sg

dim parrot
#

yee only really good if u go melee a lot

rigid sky
#

Or shoot a gun

dim parrot
#

heresy

#

(joking)

half iron
#

or both

abstract arch
upper sun
#

im sure you can craft something better easily

halcyon gust
#

My Melk rotation is total trash pain

abstract arch
#

I have an ok knife i think! Im just always sad to see decent stats and then a low roll XD

upper sun
#

ive had this for a while but im not a knife guy

green pilot
abstract arch
#

thats a nice base so far i think besides the mobilty.. but i think personally that is preference if xou want to dump it

green pilot
#

Threw so many rifles away on my vet coz of that

upper sun
halcyon gust
green pilot
halcyon gust
#

Since that gets you the most dodges currently

abstract arch
#

i understand its ok to dump it

green pilot
#

I still want above 60 tho but more is not that important

abstract arch
#

but for me perosnally i dont want to

untold niche
#

i know it isn't new but people should try severed steel

#

@near gale its on 80% sale as well

near gale
#

I'm broke sadly

untold niche
#

damn :(

radiant frigate
#

unfortunate

supple sedge
#

Sad

upper sun
#

🤔 should i keep hoarding emperor gifts or sell/surrender them

#

you guys think the crafting update in 7 years is gonna let us break down crap

rigid sky
upper sun
#

i have 3 chainaxes that i never used with thunderus 4x2 slaught 4 and one with thrust 3 and blood letter 3

radiant frigate
#

headtaker slaughterer chainaxe sounds like a lot of power

#

maybe i should make an obscurus

#

you know, for the memes

clear heath
#

hello, any big updates lately? last time i played was before christmas

supple sedge
#

Not yet

fallow yacht
#

none

#

just announcement of announcments

#
clear heath
#

damn it's been almost 4 months

supple sedge
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Not have enought ressources

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And have get GW approval

fallow yacht
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I don't buy not having enough resources

supple sedge
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Game Workshop tho

fallow yacht
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Remember it was supposed to be a "live" service game and we were supposed to have 9 classes by now

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classes, not subclasses

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1 per quarter

clear heath
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it's okay, no one believed them anyways

fallow yacht
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honestly I wouldn't be suprised, if they moved part of the team to work on next project, hence less stuff gets done for DT

clear heath
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the next project wouldn't survive if they abandoned darktide this early

supple sedge
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Agreed

clear heath
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they're not big enough to just make and abandon projects

fallow yacht
supple sedge
fallow yacht
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but if they are doing Age of Sigmar game... that's major narrative downgrade from WFRP setting

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You guys got any tips for me to survive an auric damnation mission? I’m thinking about trying it out tonight