psyker-class

[icy garnet]

see a sniper about to shoot u while in the middle of a crowd just block

its so nice

i just swing my big slab of metal until everything is dead

its fun

to play ogryn you gotta have the mindset of an ogryn

[icy garnet]

he look like he's wearing one of those soda hat

[near gale]

Okay there is 1 suit token upgrade in Doom 2016 that I really REALLY enjoy... that's the no damage from explosive barrels one >.>

See a big demon nearly on you when both of you are next to a barrel? Blast the barrel rq

It also helps me a lot since I sometimes don't see the barrels and then I get them exploded near me or in my face x.x

[lapis violet]

is this good for gunker?

[upper sun]

why does brunt mock me

[upper sun]

revolver is a great weapon regardless

but maybe something with a higher rate of fire so you can crit max

[lapis violet]

i know this specific one is good for weapons specialist veteran with the bullet regain talent but not sure if a lvl4 crucian roulette is good for gunker

[potent echo]

you probably dont want crucian, but surgical as usual

crucian is too unreliable when it comes to handcannon and killing crushers

[cinder moon]

surgical takes too long to be useful

[potent echo]

you need only 7 stacks for revolver

[cinder moon]

if you're ADS long enough to get anything out of it, you could be doing anything else

[upper sun]

yeah handcannon and surgical are the best

[potent echo]

the crit has alot of oneshot BPs and is definitely worth waiting

[spice veldt]

the value is in hitting BPs with the revolver

[potent echo]

also less ammo expended means less time reloading

[spice veldt]

and the other blessings are worse anyways on average

[cinder moon]

point blank + handcannon are fine as a combo

[potent echo]

if im bringing the zarona i would play it as a slower firing crit cannon, otherwise im just gonna bring the other one

[spice veldt]

yeah it works but surgical will net more value esp when accounting for the fact that you're taking a mild of time to aim

and you have the ability to do away with the probablistic aspect of crits if you need it

the thing is that you don't need to ads if you don't need to

[potent echo]

i.e. having guaranteed crits against a crusher is very good

[spice veldt]

being able to reliably stretch the value of each shot of a weapon whose magazine economy is its limiting factor is quite nice

[dusk void]

After playing Darktide for 353 hours, I still can’t say I’m good at the game 😊. I need like another 200 hours to prove I’m actually decent at it

[trim arch]

me watching my dumbass explode after overloading

[orchid shadow]

Holy crap... this is bonkers. I can't even fathom how high their play time must be.

[vestal fulcrum]

Considering I’m probably like halfway there…

Probably 2K+ hours

[mental grail]

Too high.

Brother is hearing the voice lines in his sleep.

[upper sun]

300 hours of knife zealot speed runs

[livid smelt]

Can i make smite do more damage or nah?

[icy garnet]

is smite the lightning thing

[upper sun]

you can switch to a weapon

[vestal fulcrum]

You can take Enhanced Psionics keystone for instance

[upper sun]

still not great damage tho

[livid smelt]

I just like Emperor Palpatining shit

[icy garnet]

then take the passive that makes you have better blitz on kill

[upper sun]

stop having fun 😡

were here to minmax damage output not to have fun

[vestal fulcrum]

Smite also benefits from certain universal damage/power increasing talents, like Warp Rider

[icy garnet]

i need to minmax brain burst more

i keep forgetting i got that perk that makes it i charge it faster on skill activation

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s 36 damage per tick with EP every 0.1 to 0.3s

It’s not terrible. It’s not great, either

[icy garnet]

how does it even work with ep

does it just works until u stop firing it

[upper sun]

1 charge per full cast i think

[icy garnet]

like it takes a charge everytime u cast

[exotic crest]

yes

[icy garnet]

ilve never used the other Blitz outside of brain burst idk what they do

[upper sun]

smite either makes you a game carrying god or HEY GUYS PLEASE DEAL WITH THIS BULWERK

[icy garnet]

i just go brain burst brain burst on bullwarks

or i keep spamming my purge staff

[upper sun]

ye bb is great for that

[icy garnet]

i wish ep worked on specialist

it would be so nice

everytime i see a specialist i have to debate if its worth using a charge

while elite i can just say i dont care cuz i get one back anyway

[vestal fulcrum]

IIRC EP stacks on Smite are consumed whenever you reach 100% peril

But it might have been changed since the last time I tested it

[rich spindle]

Smite cant crit right

[exotic crest]

I don't think so, not anything I've ever noticed in the psycadeum

[vestal fulcrum]

Nope

[vestal fulcrum]

It would have too much uptime

It proccing on elites is largely fine

[icy garnet]

i dont care i want fun

[vestal fulcrum]

You get to have free EP casts on gunners, Shotgunners, Dreg ragers

[icy garnet]

let me brain blast everything

i need my fun

[rich spindle]

EP smite is really fun

[vestal fulcrum]

Then ask FS to make EP upgrade proc on specials too

But I doubt that they will listen right off the bat

[rich spindle]

I feel like smite is the weakest power tho

[icy garnet]

never tried smite honestlt

[livid smelt]

But big zap

[icy garnet]

i've been running purge staff exclusively so i dont really see a point

[spice veldt]

smite is strong by virtue of the absurd CC it provides

it's also mindnumbingly boring

[last saddle]

Smite immobilizes more enemies than the staff

[rich spindle]

Big zapping a horde is my favorite thing in the game buts its like. You coulda just killed everything with voidstrike instead

[last saddle]

Its elite if you’re playing a support role.

[rich spindle]

Theres pretty few moments when you need to stunlock stuff vs just kill it

[spice veldt]

yeah though psyker isn't lacking on damage options on their primary and secondary slots

[last saddle]

It relies on the others to have some solid dps tho

[spice veldt]

if you like the reliability of absolutely not dying to deathballs and you don't want to run trauma, then smite is for you

[rich spindle]

Smiting close range rager packs is probably the best use case

[last saddle]

(Death balls?)

[spice veldt]

rager/mauler/crusher'bulwark packs

condensed into one nice ball wanting to kill you

[rich spindle]

If there was a truly super tanky enemy smite would be worth it

[icy garnet]

how does smite even interract with bosses

[spice veldt]

we do have some of that and the game likes to throw elites at you like candy

[icy garnet]

does it just damage them and thats it

[rich spindle]

It does basically nothing i think lol

Yeah just pitiful dmg

[icy garnet]

should slow them down

or stun every like 2-3 second or smth

[rich spindle]

Thatd be op i think

[spice veldt]

anyways i despise smite and i hate having to defend something i hate so i'll stop here

[rich spindle]

Lol smite is dope

[spice veldt]

it's insanely boring

[rich spindle]

But palpatine

[spice veldt]

it's horrible design and it should've been killed off right in the "throwing paper at the wall" stage

[last saddle]

I mean an oggie can have a boss stunned for a good ten seconds if he’s good. I feel like smite ought to do the job

[icy garnet]

probably would be fine

[last saddle]

Cope I think its fun

[spice veldt]

yes and ogryn shouldn't be able to do that

my gripe with CC in this game is not limited to psyker alone

[icy garnet]

they can do that ?

[spice veldt]

nor is it limited to just CC inflicted on enemies

[exotic crest]

psyker has 3 fine blitzes, smite is probably the most useful on high difficulty, but compared to everything else the psyker has it feels somewhat underwhelming

[vestal fulcrum]

It would be nice if Smite had you send a lightning bolt that would stagger one target heavily and damage it so, and affected certain other enemies in a slightly weaker fashion

[last saddle]

Four rocks plus a charge. All of those will smack any boss but a demon host

[vestal fulcrum]

But no, we have to stand and channel, and dodge-shuffle to not be a sitting duck

[icy garnet]

rocks stun bosses ?

[spice veldt]

it's a stronger and more boring version of zealot's stun grenades, and i already have a mild discontent with zealot's stun grenade

[last saddle]

They do indeed

[vestal fulcrum]

On Weakspot hits, yes

[icy garnet]

didnt knew

[rich spindle]

Actually aiming with it would be interesting

[icy garnet]

been running the nuclear bomb

[last saddle]

I like the rock bc it functions like a sniper rifle in a pinch.

[vestal fulcrum]

Rock is indeed a sniper rifle

[last saddle]

You can take out a light elite in one shot and a reaper in two

[icy garnet]

i prefer the grenade cuz its pretty much a get out of jail free card

i usually toss it if a teammate is going to die or to get a revive if things are fucked

[jovial juniper]

You can also use slaps and punches, it's trickier

[last saddle]

Those are comedy gold too

[jovial juniper]

With the exception of Beast of Nurgle, you can hit anywhere with rocks

Beast of Nurgle be damned, all my kin hate Beast of Nurgle

[gray pendant]

Can swap Surge for Warp Flurry when I finally roll it. What perk should I swap?

Keep flack and change groaners to carapace or something?

[potent echo]

depends on how you want it

[last saddle]

At least he’s slow

[potent echo]

surge gives it unparalleled burst power, especially when comboed with true aim

surge/nexus is just powerful

if you want a more agile spammy one sure flurry transfer

but you would be on horde clearing duty but even then its not the best

for perks, unarmored is the niche pick if you want to oneshot dreg gunners in the head with a full charged ball, but arguably you could just brainburst said elite if you have bb

[gray pendant]

Yeah ive been running bb but I use voidstrike on those anyway

Ill try out unarmored

[potent echo]

i wont really recommend it unless you specifically go for bowling with gunner elite heads lined up together

[rich spindle]

Id go flurry and carapace personally

[potent echo]

carapace is the safer pick

[gray pendant]

Damn there is a slight breakpoint with gunners

[potent echo]

yea usually you can make up with warpcharges / DD / other stuff

perfect timing etc

for me i run DD with my void so i stopped running unarmored

[gray pendant]

I take DD so it shouldn't be bad without unarmored anyway

It kills gunners on crit and I crit often

[upper sun]

id go flurry instead of surge and maniac instead of groaner

[rich spindle]

Naaaah carapace

Headshotting mauler and crusher packs

[untold niche]

i feel bb should do aoe stagger around target
Smite should just be a very heavy slow + damage amp

i feel smite is too big of a get out of jail free card

esp for a competent team

iirc with VS from 0% peril, its 8 seconds of CC

6?

idk, long time regardless

[cinder moon]

smite is fun and effective without being overbearing, though

[untold niche]

i think very effective but not fun

just old down button entire game stops

[still hearth]

I think BB LMB should be an instant cast but do less damage and cost more peril while the RMB should do a ton of damage but require charge time.

Smite LMB also could use something, rn it's just weird

It says it does more damage but it doesn't

And it also stuns less and is pretty much just useful if there's one guy you want to stun briefly

[dusk void]

Have any of y’all been in a situation where a mutant grabs you from nowhere in the elevator, throws you to two exploding poxwalkers, and died because of it? I find that to be one of the hilarious ways to get killed in a match

[supple sedge]

Sparkhead. When Ulgo ask to let horde for Ulgo can you let them for Ogryn friend? Want to kill them by self

Thank you for hearing Ulgo out

[jovial juniper]

Not exactly, I started glitching through the floor and ended at the lower floor, basically locking me, the second time I just hard glitched trough the floor but nothing else happened

[pine carbon]

ayy that happened to me too #darktide-pics-vids message

[upper sun]

the hell of hab dreyko

[dusk void]

Screw that map. I’m lucky I survived it with the lights out modifier

[upper sun]

fuck that

[dusk void]

I had an amazing zealot teammate with me

[upper sun]

did shock trooper in auric once and never again it was hell

no wait it was normal high inten

[pine carbon]

the absolute worst match I've ever had in my life was damnation maelstrom, waves of mutants / poxhounds / specials, specials turn into monsters, lights out

It was a hour long slog fest that we died on during the escape

on hab dreyko

[upper sun]

you really have to memorize all scan locations in the hab and do them together as a team

its too hard to do that in pubs and its esp hard if its my least played map

[pine carbon]

We lost a teammate about 25 minutes in and no one rejoined to replace the bot

and our other zealot teammate wasn't the brightest

true hell

[supple sedge]

Bah zealot not always smart. But they get job done yes?

[dusk void]

I find smite to be useful in lights out match. So my teammates can kill the enemies faster

[upper sun]

i wonder why...

[pine carbon]

Hello big man! I got my first 550 weapon today :]

Slab Shield

[supple sedge]

VERY GOOD

Show Ulgo!

[pine carbon]

#ogryn-class message

[supple sedge]

WOWIE

It is now Ulgo approved

Normal Ulgo approved stamp go on ripper gun but it look great fun to have!

[pine carbon]

Brilliant, I know what to name it now

[supple sedge]

Yes?

[supple sedge]

Ulgo curious of name!

[jovial juniper]

Ping where you are going/ supposed to go

[supple sedge]

YES ULGO LIKE NAME

Ulgo use image in futur as stamp now!

[pine carbon]

Thanks big man, I'll pancake many heretics

[supple sedge]

Good! Krump em for the Emperor! For Tig! For Blast! For Bob! For the Commissar!

[weary crane]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b73881e-f0a3-4e13-b163-91bfe37d82d3/soulblaze-crits

Strong build if anyone wants to try

[upper sun]

uncanny

weve had the same convo many times

[plucky flax]

Lol just had another psyker running knife purga assail shield in my game.

Your build reminded me of it.

Assail with purga is kinda sus but you do you.

[near wyvern]

Yeah riposte into uncanny and for the love of the beloved drop the extra stat node and take kinetic deflection. Also why not malefic momentum instead of mind in motion :/

[near wyvern]

It works, assail and BR are both fine as long as you have an uncanny melee

[upper sun]

also crit chance instead of crit damage on the staff

and flak as a perk for deimos

or carap or unyielding or maniac

[plucky flax]

Why do you take horde clear blitz with horde clear staff?

[upper sun]

snipers

[plucky flax]

BR?

[upper sun]

thats the only use i can think of for assail with purge

but yeah id rather do bb since with assail no psykeknatics

🥹 nothing like getting placed in a mission thats 99% done

[supple sedge]

Agreed. Very funny

[near wyvern]

It's for blowing up ranged and soft elites

[near wyvern]

Your Brain just did a Rupture

[plucky flax]

If that works for you.

[upper sun]

yeah for the selected fire not weaving

[plucky flax]

Purga is bad as is. Even worse without left hand side talents.

[near wyvern]

It's not bad

[upper sun]

purge is great please stop talking shit about my stafu

[near wyvern]

But it does benefit a lot from the left side yeah

Wildfire allows you to do two fronts which is my favoured way to run it

[weary crane]

I didnt even know there was one

Because I have it locked

Ideally I want both but flak is very good

[plucky flax]

You play purg I play blaze trauma and see who get more warpfire damage.

[upper sun]

ill leave the game with eye damage you with hearing damage neither of us is gonna win anything plaything those two staves

[plucky flax]

tru

[weary crane]

The fire looks so much better with speed stim

[near wyvern]

Unfortunate test since first tag gets all the credit

[upper sun]

dont tell him that

agent is gonna prioritize blasting whatever the purge is targetting to steal kills

[jovial juniper]

Yeah that's very Warhammer-ish

[plucky flax]

I already know it. When there's a purga on the team with me on blaze trauma it's super sad for the purga guy.

He did more regular range damage than warpfire damage on purga.

[crude vortex]

Just got Warp Battery heehe

[upper sun]

im gonna cope hard and say his staff was just bad

[near bobcat]

Blessed omnissiah, please deliver unto me the Shred blessing for my duelling sword...

[upper sun]

may you get shred uncanny and two free perks

ALL T4

[rigid sky]

Go go precognition uncanny

Or riposte uncanny

I forget which is better

[worthy briar]

I know its not a good blessing, but how would i even activate sustained fire on the voidstrike staff??

spamming the primary fire?

[upper sun]

yeah pretty much though i think it would also activate on secondary fire

[cosmic sigil]

Playing a bolter vet you gotta love that psyker bro injecting you with red stimm just when the boss spawns

[worn beacon]

Does he know

[rigid sky]

Tbf in some teams Purgatus doesn't really contribute much

I only pick it when I have checked my team's capabilities

If I'm our frontline it goes on

If we have some kind of Flamer already then definitely not

[upper sun]

are lasguns any good with gunker?

brunt keeps giving me great ones

[rich spindle]

Depends on their crit damag ig

[rigid sky]

I would imagine the 1a is decent

Would rather have a laspistol

[upper sun]

lantrael mk x heavy pistol vs infantry lasgun

doesnt seem too bad for the lasgun imo

once more

I am hadroned out of gunker

[rigid sky]

Left much better vs Flak at least

I think most laspistol psykers use accatran though

Idk I use CIAG lmao

[buoyant maple]

Remember that laspistols are naturally immune to suppression, whereas infantry lasguns aren’t

[radiant frigate]

they are?

splendid

what about revolver

[buoyant maple]

Plasma gun, helbore lasgun, heavy laspistol & combat shotguns are all immune to suppression

[radiant frigate]

and voidstrike because 😎

[buoyant maple]

Well staffs don’t really get suppressed

[radiant frigate]

thanks for the info

[buoyant maple]

The mechanic doesn’t exist for them rly

Plasma too in that category ig

[radiant frigate]

voidstrike is always pinpoint accurate

[buoyant maple]

The rest of the ranged weapons that u can actually ads with, helbore/laspistol/shotgun

[upper sun]

Tbh lasgun is kinda mid anyways

[wind spruce]

That's kinda the point of the discussion anyways

[upper sun]

yeah just had to test in game it doesnt feel too great

This is the best frame ive ever seen

its from a fucking warhammer+ subscription

[limber ivy]

i guess they needed to add 'something' to it

[upper sun]

yeah theres 1/2 good shows

and theyre both 10 minutes and 8 episodes each

[buoyant maple]

How does it work even

Is there smth u need to link to get it

[upper sun]

i asked the guy in game

they gave him a code

for the weird ass code submission thing in the atoma.account thing

[buoyant maple]

And does it stay permanently available or if u cancel subscription it’s just gone

[limber ivy]

i didn't resub this year, i only subbed to the last one for the vindicare model

[upper sun]

do they have any good lore podcasts?

[upper sun]

idk

[limber ivy]

they went from that amazing model to a standard infantry 🥲

[upper sun]

im not into painting im more into lore

like i love seeing the figures but i cant draw a straight line with a ruler its not for me

[limber ivy]

i didnt get into the podcasts, im not currently subscriber

[upper sun]

also i would rather listen to stuff that isnt directly from GW because they can call out their bullshit more

[buoyant maple]

tbh that frame looks good but I don’t really think buying WH+ for that alone is worth it lol

[limber ivy]

it was a limited time thing anyway, months old at this point

[upper sun]

if they had more than 30 minutes worth of content id think about it

[buoyant maple]

Ah ok so it’s not even available anymore?

[limber ivy]

no sir

[torpid girder]

I just played with 2 purgatus assail vent psykers and oh my god it was miserable

I got launched off a ledge by a plogryn with no enemies around me and instead of going for me they spent 20 seconds holding right click on the plogryn that was agrod on the vet

they literally both looked at me and then turned around to keep flaming the plogryn

[spice veldt]

they saw the big dumb and said no

if only you were a little dumb

[torpid girder]

Literally all they did the entire match was stay next to each other and purgatus each others backs and spam F

and then when ranged hordes showed up they spammed assail left click

Like i'm 90% sure they let me die on the ledge on purpose :/

[upper sun]

Um actually assail does great boss damage!!!!!

[torpid girder]

then why didn't they use assail on the plogryn 🥹

[upper sun]

(it doesnt)

some guy had the audacity to tell me that once

[torpid girder]

ohhh

(i've never used assail)

[buoyant maple]

If assail was great boss Dmg then veteran shovels are boss killers

[upper sun]

i was playing as an ogryn with the actual psyker insignia

[buoyant maple]

(Don’t actually use veteran shovel for boss dmg)

[upper sun]

i love shovels tho 😭

[buoyant maple]

Mk7 shovel might be the single best anti elite & special melee for veteran but it is not good at boss dmg lol

[upper sun]

nice clear good crusher damage with thrust

[upper sun]

ye ofc

imagine this baby with thrust 4

[buoyant maple]

Mk7 shovel
Carapace + flak/elite/maniac
Uncanny + thrust

Peak anti-elite & special

[upper sun]

i dont have any good mk7 shovels sadly

[harsh urchin]

Not a fan of the vet shovels

[upper sun]

well i have two 377 but the dump stats are damage one and first target on the other

[harsh urchin]

They kinda sucked when I was playung with them

[upper sun]

you didnt have THRUST

[harsh urchin]

Theyre non finesse and also dont have bm

[buoyant maple]

Veteran shovels are really weird, best way I can describe mk7 is “what if veteran had a thunder hammer”

[harsh urchin]

Can mk 7 hit reasonable one shot thresholds

[buoyant maple]

It can 1 shot every single elite & special except bulwark & reaper

And as an added bonus, because Uncanny is a self-buff, your grenades can wipe elites insanely well

U can do https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1211818651682996254/1216575787428216942/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_Screenshot_2024.03.10_-_22.37.26.08.png?ex=6600e37e&is=65ee6e7e&hm=1a86570a112f4ab2b5958f32b3d6fc1a8dcc49c1acf6f7ea8ff15d1ab8e2fa66&

This much dmg

From 2 frags

On a crusher

[upper sun]

i think mine could if it had carap or thrust 4 with tag ofc

[dusk void]

I just played my first monstrosity maelstorm and I thoroughly enjoyed it 😊

[harsh urchin]

Can you hit the os on crusher?

[dusk void]

But 2 monstrosities at once is a bit much imo

[mighty cipher]

I've accidentally made a really good Psyknight Build

I'm walking into missions and consistently getting 5-600k damage games and completely dwarfing the rest of the team offensively.

The best part is that I'm using a defensive spec Illisi with Deflector IV and Block efficency. The offensive perk and blessings are Precog III and T4 Weakspot.
And yet I'm still just-

1. Walk into horde
   2.Plin Plin Plon
   3.???????
2. 600k damage

[smoky wigeon]

What the heck is the symbol for the far right capstone passive that gives precision?!

I cant figure it out for the LIFE of me on my buff bar

[spice veldt]

just the hand symbol
same as the keystone image itself

[lyric burrow]

purple hand symbol

stacks do go away and stuff so you wont see it unless your keeping up with killing highlighted stuff

[smoky wigeon]

But it says it adds stacks for weak spot kills..what exactly are weak spots?

[spice veldt]

if you see an orange hit marker, that's a weakspot hit

[smoky wigeon]

Weird, In the psykarium I dont even see me getting this buff

[spice veldt]

for every weapon except the beast of nurgle, the head is the weakspot

you need the creature spawner mod and to turn on their AI for enemies to be marked

oh right, the description leaves out that it has to be weakspot kills on marked enemies

[smoky wigeon]

oh so once i HAVE the buff I can earn MORE stacks from weak spot kills?

[spice veldt]

not just any enemy

no the enemy has to be marked

[smoky wigeon]

OHHHH

is the keystone worth getting?

does the timer reset with each new marked enemy killed?

[mental rock]

its worth if you run gun psyker

[spice veldt]

you'll need a mod for enemies to be marked in the psykh

[mental rock]

the timer will refresh if you hit any marked enemy I think

[spice veldt]

it's worth it ye

p good buffs for a 3 point investment and has a good line of talents above it depending on the build you run

[smoky wigeon]

Hmmm well, I wasn't gonna run staff I was lookin at it for the crit damage bonus

[rotund fable]

Finally... an upgrade to my previous Deimons, and hadron didn't completely brick it. (I can just swap the perks out)

[thick carbon]

Brunt just gave me this. it's so beautiful 🥹

[rotund fable]

Nice, how many rolls did it take?

[thick carbon]

8

[smoky wigeon]

Man I fucking SUCK at Psyker

Like I do solid but I know my build is just so mid

[rotund fable]

Just play like you have ADHD, it's how I somehow manage to semi-consistently clutch up damnation quickplay runs.

[smoky wigeon]

Thats legit how I play so far. Constantly changing my weapons and throwing daggers etc etc.

Seems to be working

Im rockin a Deimos sword and..i seem to still struggle against maniacs / elites

[rotund fable]

With the Deimos, what perks/blessings have you got on it, and are you using the light 1-heavy 2 combo (aiming for the targets head)?

[smoky wigeon]

Uncanny STrike / Shredder

With 20%flak and maniac on it

[rotund fable]

Are you doing the Light 1 into heavy 2 combo?

and hitting them in the head with both hits?

[smoky wigeon]

WELLLLL my light 1 probably misses lol

BUT I always hit H2 cause they always fall to the ground

I shoul dbe able to 2 hit them with the perk right?

[rotund fable]

depends on the weapons base stats and game difficulty

the fact you have uncanny helps a lot, as, each successive hit with the sword makes it have more rending, which can get some funky damage numbers at times

[smoky wigeon]

I dont even udnerstand waht rending is tbh

[rotund fable]

Rending is basically "how much of their armor/defense is ignored"

[smoky wigeon]

OHHHH interesting...

[rotund fable]

yeah

special attack light 1 to the head instantly brings uncanny to 4 stacks

[smoky wigeon]

I paired that with the fire staff so I could down hordes / like stagger some shooters

[rotund fable]

and you can maintain uncanny stacks with block-pushing

since the push is treated as a weakspot hit

[smoky wigeon]

Interesting...

Thats super helpful

thanks

What staff do you recc?

[rotund fable]

Deimos is really good when paired with the Purgatus (flame) staff, on account of how you can just ignite a bunch of enemies (specialists and elites included, if it's a mixed horde) then special-stab one random poxwalker in the head, and suddenly your flames are ignoring 4 uncanny stacks worth of their armor (assuming you keep the sword out)

[smoky wigeon]

I had 0 idea THATS how it worked

[spice veldt]

a more lengthy explanation if you care for it is

A weapon has a base damage, and then it has armour damage modifiers that affect the percentage of the base damage that it deals to that armour type (unarmoured, infested, flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace). E.g., the force swords have an ADM of 65% against carapace on heavy attacks. This means they it deals 65% of its base damage to carapace.

rending% will increase that armour damage modifier number additively. E.g., if your attack deals 65% damage to carapace currently, then +30% rending means that you'll do 95% damage to carapace now.

When you reach 100% adm (armour damage modifier), then rending%'s effect is reduced to 1/4ths. E.g., if your attack already deals 100% adm to carapace, then +40% rending means that the adm will be 100% + 40% * 1/4 = 110%.

In addition, rending% itself is capped at 100%. Let's say that you have tier4 Uncanny Strike, which should give 120% rending at 5 stacks. However, you will only receive 100% rending from it at max.
And rending% does not affect the unarmoured and infested armour types, It only applies to ADMs against flak/maniac/unyielding/carapace.

[smoky wigeon]

Dude, I dont think the Disrupt Destiny Buff lasts for 15 seconds >>

@spice veldt Thanks 😄

I...think I understood that..

[spice veldt]

probably

the math doesn't matter in the grand scheme cuz you get a bunch of rending but it's there if you need the math

it does last for 15 seconds but 15 seconds ends up being pretty short when you're in a space between engagements or when there are no patrols

oh, another aspect of DD that isn't described is what type of enemies are marked

these are the enemies that can be marked by DD

[rustic hare]

What's the best way to get frenzied killer lvl 2 with a psyker? i've been stuck at 83/90 forever

[harsh urchin]

frenzied killer?

[mighty cipher]

Killing X enemies in 30 seconds

[harsh urchin]

ah i see

probably by going into a hi-int game with a horde clear weapon like illisi

[rustic hare]

Sorry I want clearer. Thanks

[buoyant maple]

Yes

[harsh urchin]

how?

I played around with it a bit and wasnt able to

[buoyant maple]

Carapace, Thrust, Uncanny

[patent jacinth]

I am going to kill someone

[buoyant maple]

Also tag keystone + RF (not necessarily required but makes it easier)

Take both superiority complex and ogryn+boss dmg

[harsh urchin]

ah I see

you need uncanny stacked?

[buoyant maple]

I have thrust 3, 20% carapace and 10% elite
Without any specific melee dmg talent and no uncanny stacks whatsoever, I can hit for like 3.3k on crusher

Uncanny makes it a lot easier

Trying to get a better roll atm

I’m rly just chasing after 540+ rating godrolls at this point

Still don’t have thrust 4

[smoky wigeon]

@spice veldt hmmmm I'll keep messing around. It really seems I can keep DD up when it's important so...idk

Y'all go for health curios?

[lyric burrow]

i do 2 toughness one health

id reccomend at least 1

for psyker

[paper lily]

full toughness all day

+3 stam for kinetic deflection

[broken carbon]

where do you die most?

[restive ice]

probably on atoma

[broken carbon]

true

[primal plume]

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[supple sedge]

What?

Is this pig latin?

[fathom adder]

The psyker's bone'ead implant is acting up again

[modern void]

so true !

[mental rock]

nah its just the vox playin tricks is all

[junior linden]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragonballsuper-dragonball-meme-language-of-gods-gif-14707991

[untold niche]

If you meant you CANT keep DD up during important stuffs, some tips.

Take the 30 second augment
To refresh your buff, just have to damage the blue guy, no need kill

[rigid sky]

Take the 30 second duration. BTW DD also works great with Voidstrike

[untold niche]

anyone played the Alien game

thats like l4d2

[untold niche]

alien fire team or sumting

[paper lily]

the really old one?

alien swarm

[spice veldt]

nah there's a new-ish third-person alien horde shooter

part of the same overarching series as Alien: Isolation and the like

[ivory path]

Which looks better siblings?

First one rolled a blessing I want

[paper lily]

quell speed is gonna do more for you there

[halcyon creek]

Aliens: Fireteam Elite. I played it with my weekly gaming crew. It’s a bit grindy, and it focuses more on the action than the horror.
But we had fun, and if you like the vibe of L4Darktide, you’ll probably dig it.

I like how the skill “tree” is a grid that you stuff rectangles into.

[untold niche]

How does it compare to DT?

[halcyon creek]

Darktide’s melee is the best I’ve ever seen in a shooter. The missions in Aliens are longer, with more sections, but much more repetitive than DT due to the dynamic enemy spawn locations in DT.

[untold niche]

You can play blazing trauma on second one but the quell is quire slow yeah

Which one has more player expression

[halcyon creek]

Aliens is third-person, which feels a bit different than the 1st person perspective of DT

[radiant frigate]

i always find it weird when people call it a shooter

[halcyon creek]

Y’know what? That’s valid

[untold niche]

Like DT has you needing to know slides against bullets, how to dodge poxyb all taht

Is aliens one of those games where you just shoot thr zombie

[radiant frigate]

it's as much a shooter as vermintide

[halcyon creek]

Oh! The squad size in Aliens is 3, not 4

[radiant frigate]

that is to say, it is as shooty as you make it

[untold niche]

Yeah I know about that

[radiant frigate]

or as melee-y

[halcyon creek]

Yes 😔

[untold niche]

Damn and you play that weekly?

Has to be some skill involved?

[halcyon creek]

Well, we played once a week for about 2 months…

There’s definitely skill involved

You gotta prioritize targets and use all the skills, grenades, and ults

The build variety is quite good

[untold niche]

What are the skills and ults like

[halcyon creek]

Overall, I think it’s worth a try

[untold niche]

You think DT more fun or that one more fun

[halcyon creek]

I think DT is better in the gameplay, but Aliens is a more rounded experience. There’s more free (grindable) cosmetics available in Aliens than in DT

If you like PvE squad shooters / “shooters”, I think you would be able to see the good in Aliens

It’s the best Aliens game in a while

[untold niche]

Thanks for reply. I think I would try aliens then.

For me DT gets boring after I'm used to my build. And not that much build I want to try

I wouldn't*

[halcyon creek]

And you only gotta convince two of your friends to try it, instead of 3

[untold niche]

Shit

If even DT more fun I prob wouldn't get it

[halcyon creek]

Wait for a sale. You should get it on sale and give it a try, because it’s in the same game genre as DT

That being said, I’m 38 and my reflexes are slowing down a bit. Aliens is a slower game with less emphasis on movement and more on awareness and using your tools at the right moment. If you need to bounce around and style on the baddies, it’s gonna feel like molasses to you.
(Still worth a buy on a decent sale tho)

You know what? The base game is $30 but it has a ton of DLC packs. That’s not good.

Okay the main DLC is $15, the rest I think might just be cosmetics (or instant-unlocks…)

[untold niche]

I tried another zombie game before. The third person one. World War z?

Yeah that one totally not fun imo

Levelling took forever. And even after you levelled up irs just something like more damage, or regen your grenades type deal

[dim parrot]

world war z can be fun if u do a melee build

or ,,more" fun

[upper sun]

zombie survival has been done to death

im looking at winter survival but its still in early access

[cinder moon]

AFE was fun, but higher difficulties are just spongier enemies, not significantly more enemies. the lobby system only lets you play one stage of a mission at a time, and each stage is basically a chapter in a story, so most lobbies usually picked the climax chapter as those had more to do

[dim parrot]

https://youtu.be/5x2gY7CjDKs?feature=shared

[cinder moon]

[untold niche]

Yeah I saw King makers

[untold niche]

If the game had disablers that would suck

[cinder moon]

it does

[dim parrot]

looks quite funny, probably wouldn't buy it tho
(kingmakers)

[cinder moon]

good core concept, poor execution tbh

[untold niche]

132 hours is pretty decent

[cinder moon]

i only played that much because i got it when it was new and was continually waiting for the "new" content

[untold niche]

I think my DT will only hit 300 hours at max

[spice veldt]

i like the attachment system thought it was pretty simple and the gameplay ended up not being satisfying for me for too long

[cinder moon]

DT has way more build and playstyle variety

[spice veldt]

though i played only solo and never queued, so things might've been different if i played multiplayer

[cinder moon]

holy shit, playing with the bots was ass cancer

[dim parrot]

oh probably, most games are way more fun with a squad

[spice veldt]

yeah certainly one of those games i can enjoy with a premade

[cinder moon]

AFE devs fully intended players to never play alone, bots were basically just there so you could do "the story" on the easiest difficulty

so the bots were intentionally trash

if you can get it on sale, that's the only way i'd say get it

[untold niche]

for wwz or aliens?

[spice veldt]

aliens

[untold niche]

wwz had you presitege 20 times to get get all the class perks

some were pretty good like change your starting weapon or whatever but at end of the day imo game kinda sucked

like you know explosives/aoes had a max kill count

so some of the skills upgraded that

it feels very weird as well, you fire grenade launcher then you only watch some die

[upper sun]

I did an entire sedation level by myself to finish a weekly once

[spice veldt]

at least wwz actually balanced for explosive weapons

that part i liked

[upper sun]

got three merge strike requests from the team

[cinder moon]

i did that more than once before the devs turned on crossplay

[upper sun]

surprisingly the levels 3-10 did not mind finishing the map in 12 minutes

[cinder moon]

oh you mean in DT

[upper sun]

yeah

[cinder moon]

at least DT bots are capable

AFE bots are certified garbage

[upper sun]

l4d2 bots are still god tier

[untold niche]

oh ya talking about bots

is the bot swap exploit failable?

so if someone leaves and then doesn't come back, theres no change he tried to do bot swap exploit, but rather just rage quit?

[cinder moon]

i frequently TK'd AFE bots accidentally, eventually i started doing it on purpose just so they would stop walking into my line of fire to absorb ults/ammo intended for enemies

[untold niche]

and can people fill up your bot

i always wonder.

[upper sun]

ive had a few times where the game crashed and it didnt offer me to reconnect

i think people try that but they dont get the reconnection prompt

[untold niche]

ah so its failable

lol

do you quit just before you die, or does it work after

[upper sun]

i dont think i tried it on purpose only when i get stuck

[cinder moon]

think i made a guy DC like 4 times in an auric damn last night because i was repeatedly smiting huge hordes during sanction redactus decoder holdout

[upper sun]

but it worked when i was alive and not downed

[untold niche]

you guys ever quit?
i think the only time i quit was when i found some a5histg game to be dragging on too long and our team is constantly almost dying
Nobobody died when i decided to quit, i just thought that i don't wanna play that round anymore lol

[cinder moon]

i might've ragequit once when an asshole teammate kept blowing me up with barrels

usually i'll just back out of the pre-lobby if i can tell someone isn't prepared for auric

[untold niche]

did you steal his hp kit or something lol

[cinder moon]

keep seeing sub-30s/30s with heresy portrait joining karnak damnation, like, fuck off

[untold niche]

sub +30

or sub LEVEL 30

[cinder moon]

sub 30, and then 30s with heresy portrait

i don't run true level mod because i don't care that much

[upper sun]

yeah if i see like a level 25 vet with a border and twins insignia that guy's prolly better than me

but no border no insignia im leaving

[untold niche]

i never bothered to change my portrait until much later

You should run true level
i think anything under a +7 (around there, not a hard number. could be +10 or whatever)
is a no no

[untold niche]

damn dats me

don't you have twins?

[upper sun]

only normal insignia

[untold niche]

@cinder moon #ogryn-class message

My barrel story

waaat, i find it very surprising you don't have twins hard
But to be fair i don't even know when i did it

is the super secret mode normal twins or hard mode

[upper sun]

i tried it once

[untold niche]

i do remember doing the super secret mode

a few times

[cinder moon]

i regularly carry sub-30s through normal damn with my unlimited power build, i don't really care, but if they show up to karnak twins, i'm leaving

[upper sun]

i think ill have better luck to do it with my zealot rather than psyker

[cinder moon]

also lmao

[dim parrot]

u did not just say that

I still hate rochelle to the bone og

[untold niche]

my difficulty jumps were
1->2->3->4->5->a5histg->a5mael

How come you still playing normal 5
i assume everyone here plays like a5histg, or a5qp at the minimum

[upper sun]

they were years ahead of the time 😭

[cinder moon]

i play regular damn because it regularly has fastest QP, and i can turn my brain off while still being engaged

[upper sun]

regular t5s are the best for grinding plasteel

[dim parrot]

true, still killed rochelle at the beginning of every round

[cinder moon]

when i want to actually try i go play auric

[untold niche]

doesn't a5qp give more plasteel
and i think a5qp isn't that bad, at least here

[upper sun]

low intensity t5s are easier than malice

[untold niche]

i feel normal 5 is easy until boring

[cinder moon]

lowint t5 is boring

[upper sun]

its free plasteel tho 🙂

[untold niche]

auric gives more plasteel iirc, or at least more dockets

[cinder moon]

regular t5 is usually fine, especially when the director is on crack and decides it's a highint without being highint

[untold niche]

in terms of farming no actual reason to play n5

[smoky wigeon]

Fire team elite. Oh man. What a mediocre game that I adored.

[upper sun]

yeah i had one day where all regulars were legit harder than aurics

[smoky wigeon]

How could you make a horde shooter and NOT have random spawns?!

[untold niche]

i realize that non aurics, director really loves to spawn 2 bosses back to back, like actually back to back and i don't understand

[untold niche]

technically KF don't have random spawns

[cinder moon]

AFE would've been better if it could actually handle high mob counts, but it just took a cop-out and made everything into bullet sponges

[smoky wigeon]

@untold niche what's KF?

[cinder moon]

killing floor

[untold niche]

killing floor

[smoky wigeon]

Oh sorry. I never got into KF that much

[cinder moon]

dosh, grab it while ya can lads

[smoky wigeon]

AFE turned into camp this hallway camp this doorway

[untold niche]

skill expression better than darktide (just imo)
But darktide as a whole is more fun, at least for longer

KF2 defo makes you feel cooler tho

[cinder moon]

nah, kf is basically "play only precision perks or your teammates will hate you"

[smoky wigeon]

I like the skill ceiling in darktide. I FEEL myself getting better over time as I play

[cinder moon]

also the movement in kf is straight out of 2006, for obvious reasons

only reason i still play it is because minigun and flamethrower

[untold niche]

i meant kf2, so sorry

[cinder moon]

same same

i get shit talked in public lobbies for playing firebug

[untold niche]

you coud play berzerker tho
And even Demo man is good, medic is good

yeah trash cleaner perks are not well looked upon

its understandable

[smoky wigeon]

What is the bonus of playing psyker? What do they EXCEL in?

[untold niche]

firebug needlesly procs FP

[cinder moon]

only bad firebugs

flamethrower/the one t5 rifle are god tier

usually people understand i'm not a dickhead after one match

[untold niche]

personally i would still prefer a non trash cleaner perk on my team

[cinder moon]

helios does fine

[untold niche]

i think thats only 2 perks out of 6?
swat and firebug
and maybe survivalist

oh there are 10 perks

[cinder moon]

also blue fire slowing down hordes/handling crawlers

every gunslinger just wants to hit headshots and totally ignores crawlers, then whines when they die to them

[untold niche]

i think any class is able to deal with hordes, crawlers too
gs should be able to shoot crawlers just fine. As a gs my only problem was robos

[cinder moon]

EDARs are stupid

should only show up during matriarch wave

[untold niche]

i don't like the skill ceiling in DT,
too short

[cinder moon]

but they had to go and replace husks/the invisible bitches

[untold niche]

husk and invis guy still there

husk always fun to kill

[cinder moon]

yeah but EDARs are part of that spawn pool

[untold niche]

you could kill the husk with default pistol, very funny

[cinder moon]

so sometimes you get boned and that entire pool consists of EDARs

[smoky wigeon]

@untold niche is it? I must suck ass cause I'm still learning after 200 hours lol

I do suck tho

[untold niche]

at least in my opinion and relative to the builds i play.
imo this is pretty much the only things you need to know which isn't alot :#zealot-class message

[spice veldt]

darktide has a lot of moving parts but currently the player power level is pretty overtuned relative to the maximum difficulty

a good part of darktide is a knowledge check tbf and the game also isn't good at telling you info

[untold niche]

arco what the fuck iwht ur name

[spice veldt]

stan did this to me

[untold niche]

knowledge check buildwise

or you mean in game

[spice veldt]

just knowing how mechanics work

like dodges and whatnot

[smoky wigeon]

@untold niche I can agree with that actually

[spice veldt]

what terms like "power" and "rending" mean

cuz that shit is not explained

and the tutorial STILL has a wrong explanation of what toughness does

[untold niche]

ah yeah.
but yeah after that its just a pretty casual game

nothing to hone your skills at

[smoky wigeon]

Doesn't the tutorial say you can't dodge melee with guns out?

Which just isn't true?

[spice veldt]

oh god damnit is that in the tutorial

that's wrong yeah

[smoky wigeon]

It USED to be in the tutorial lol idk if it is anymoren

[spice veldt]

they removed that limitation soon after the game released

[cinder moon]

getting better at positioning and being able to clutch is the end-game beyond gear

[untold niche]

yeah so, and this can be consistently done in like what 30 hours of play

[cinder moon]

you're overestimating the skill of most players

a lot of people just refuse to learn, even when they're straight up told and shown things

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah for me when I READ things I can't exactly execute. It honestly takes a lot of practice personally for me to get better.

So for me the skill ceiling feels good so far

But again I'm mediocre as hell at games so

[untold niche]

idk about that, i used myself as reference because im average at most of the games i play

[cinder moon]

you're definitely above average

[untold niche]

i was like gn4 on csgo thats the average

[cinder moon]

one of my friends is an actual "average" player and it can be infuriating to play with him because he's so oblivious to literally everything

[lunar hollow]

there's quite a bit about tide games that you can't precisely measure when it comes to skill

[spice veldt]

yeah if people aren't consciously practicing stuff then it is what it is

and some builds are certainly harder to play than others

and conversely, some builds are much easier to play than others

[untold niche]

yeah but darktide ques are so loud
TZHCHCHZZH you know its the trapper

WOOF WOOF its a dog jumping you

HWUUAGGAGGUAGHGAHGHGA the mutie coming

[smoky wigeon]

@cinder moon sometimes I think I may be slightly above average cause when I quick play ....man idk lol

[lunar hollow]

but i started playing at release and the amount of knowledge about the game has changed dramatically, the level of player power vs enemies and enemy density has shifted wildly, etc

[smoky wigeon]

@lunar hollow do you like the enemy density?

[spice veldt]

though even in some situations, having knowledge about where enemies are coming from doesn't matter if you're not outdpsing stuff and you don't have the space to deal with that

[untold niche]

its not like other games when you ahve to train yoursel to recognize certain situations or ques @spice veldt

[cinder moon]

i thought i wasn't that great, but QP lobbies have been inflating my ego. sometimes i go play evisc/flamer zealot just for a reality check and still end up carrying

[spice veldt]

and if the game spams like 10 bulwarks at you and you don't have the right build for it, it's either a slow slog to kill them or the 10 bulwarks (along with other enemies) eat up a shit ton of space and gank your team

[untold niche]

well does he frequently play games?

[cinder moon]

yes

[untold niche]

what kind?

[lunar hollow]

the big problem with it rn is that it's paced poorly so stuff will spawn in groups of 20 randomly, and enemy type distribution is bad

[smoky wigeon]

@cinder moon when my ego gets too big I play psyker and make 1 mistake and go down hehehe

[lunar hollow]

20 shotgunners/gunners are not meaningfully different from 10

[cinder moon]

shooters mostly, some racing games. we used to play CS competitively back in the day, we were even CAL main for a season

[smoky wigeon]

@lunar hollow I feel as though the game REALLLY needs an enemy type to grab and yank allies away

[untold niche]

just play void, OP build
can't make mistake

[smoky wigeon]

It's too easy to stay together

[untold niche]

what does CAL main mean?

[cinder moon]

cyber-athlete league

the OG comp league

[untold niche]

what rank were you?

[lunar hollow]

the game very heavily punishes getting disabled in auric by the abundance of flamers/bombers

[cinder moon]

lol this was cs 1.6

ranks didn't exist

[spice veldt]

there's already the trapper and i think the map design should be the thing to encourage team splits

[lunar hollow]

i would say thats one of the least noticeable problems you could have with how enemies in this game function

[untold niche]

oh. but still, you guys were CS pros and somehow your friend sucked in DT?

[cinder moon]

main was 3rd highest comp league in CAL, only invite and pro were higher

[spice veldt]

i certainly have some gripes with the map design in this game

@feral verge hnghghaghghagh

[lunar hollow]

fatshark will literally just never get verticality right

[cinder moon]

he's mostly fine mechanically at shooting, but it's everything else that he can't do

[lunar hollow]

it is sad

[cinder moon]

dickhead TKs me in RON/Ground Branch because he reacts without positively IDing targets

[smoky wigeon]

My issue with darktide is update cadence and cosmetics.

Everything else is fine to great for me

[lunar hollow]

fatshark is an incredibly slow studio

people got a wrong impression with the p13-16 update cycle

[smoky wigeon]

Bro your telling me. I'm so confused by this

[lunar hollow]

if you look at the update history of darktide or vt2 there's very long stints of just nothing

[smoky wigeon]

@lunar hollow they duped me. 13 to 16 I was so high I was like wow is this what it'll be like for 2024?!

[lunar hollow]

p13 was a soft relaunch of the game

[smoky wigeon]

I thought for fucking SURE we'd get a COMMISARY update and new penances for new classes

Oh how wrong I was

[lunar hollow]

i think the lowest priority for most people is cosmetics in terms of the content they want

a lot of people also just outright hate penances

[smoky wigeon]

Eh I'm a weirdo and love cosmetics to grind for

[cinder moon]

if they could just make the prem cosmetic store not rotate, that'd be great. there's shit that hasn't been seen for a fucking year

[lunar hollow]

there is a crusher skin that showed up like once when the crusher was a dogshit terrible weapon

[cinder moon]

i want my psyker peg-leg

[lunar hollow]

and has not seen the light of day since

[smoky wigeon]

I'm pissed I can't earn a lot of the weapon skins such bullshit why aren't they tied to...using the weapon or some shit

Sorry I'm RANTING now

[cinder moon]

drip in this game is comically bad

zealot fashion is 99% BDSM shit

or just rags with some prayer receipts

[smoky wigeon]

Yeah dude

[lunar hollow]

i think most of the vet cosmetics and 95% of psyker cosmetics are just fkin awful

[smoky wigeon]

Or spend 10 bucks per class smfh

[cinder moon]

vet cosmetics are cool if you like looking like a generic vet

ogryn has some of the best cosmetic variety

[lunar hollow]

i refuse to purchase any of the 3 cadian armors that get recycled in different colors

[cinder moon]

these are my 2 favorite psyker outfits and i don't even use them that much

been waiting for something to really sell the full lightning vibe

[untold niche]

left one jacket is really nice ,look like something that would be on vet ngl

[cinder moon]

it's my gunker/void outfit

[untold niche]

yeah RoN supposed play with friend, play online everyone (including yourself) will be too serious and yet unfriendly

[cinder moon]

ron just sucks overall

[untold niche]

at least with friend you won't get mad because its friend and because you can restart

i found ron to be good at what it wants to do

make you feel like swat cop

[cinder moon]

move at a snail's pace while AI are still cracked out aimbots that don't get stopped by anything besides headshots/buckshot

[untold niche]

methodical clearing

[untold niche]

ya but they take like 1 second to see you, at le ast most of the time

[cinder moon]

i never felt like a cop in ron, i felt like a national guardsman that could arrest people if the situation allowed for it, otherwise everyone has to die

[untold niche]

yeah, feel like swat, not cop xD

[cinder moon]

i just wish the regular suspects would actually react to getting shot, instead of rushing you while blindfiring with perfect accuracy after getting 3 rounds of .45 into their torso

[untold niche]

then it would be too easy yoyu know

they just going to miss or take like 5 seconds to aim

[cinder moon]

the line between incapping and killing them is too fine

most of the time i just use buckshot now because i no longer care about trying to stun/arrest literal aimbots

at least in ground branch pistols are actually lethal

[untold niche]

wait you arrested them?
i always just aimed my gun at them and spammed shout

if they pull out their gun then bang bang

[cinder moon]

i mean, yeah, i do the spam shout, but as soon as they reach or bring the gun up, i'm pulling the trigger

also dumbass civs SPRINTING at you like they're suicidal, not a fan

[untold niche]

i think they can survive 1 bullet
But i never aimed for like S ranks in ron anyway

[cinder moon]

the AI behaviors really just beggar belief

at least poxwalkers have a reason to be suicidal

[untold niche]

maybe they runnign to you cause you are cop

:p

[cinder moon]

god emperor knows i wouldn't sprint at an armed cop trying to clear a building

that's how you get shot

[untold niche]

before some recent patch i was running taser, but base loadout is same
gun of choice, usually swapping between something short but has no pen or something longer with pen. Imo with pen is better

Then door stopper and flashbangs (in my experience flashbang aoe bigger)
Then breaching shotgun, no time to wand under door esp for defuse missions

so i just ran the shortest looking rifle then made sure it pens

[cinder moon]

p90 and taser is unironically one of the best combos

[untold niche]

p90 no pen i think

[cinder moon]

its entire purpose is to penetrate armor

[untold niche]

oh

[cinder moon]

shotguns are also great but the ammo reserves are bad

[untold niche]

shotgun i scared because shoot civvie straight die

at least rifle they can tank 1 round

[halcyon creek]

Yeah, we even get yearly training that says not to do this when the cops show up

[cinder moon]

if you need training to not sprint at armed cops clearing buildings, you get what you deserve

(not you in particular)

[halcyon creek]

Gotta admit that common sense kinda goes out the window when untrained people start getting shot at

[untold niche]

i mean if i do run at a cop i imagine i would shout officer, officer, and then the cop will tell me to stop where i am

[halcyon creek]

I’d probably just piss my pants and freeze. You really look around for someone who looks like they got a plan

[cinder moon]

civvies really be turning into poxwalkers IRL

[untold niche]

if its a dangerous area, for sure i want to make contact with a cop to ask where would be safe for me to go

and how to get there

[halcyon creek]

Smart

[halcyon creek]

Four years ago; old news 🥱

[cinder moon]

if you can't directly address the threat, get in cover, don't expose yourself, don't make yourself a target

[halcyon creek]

Yep

[untold niche]

i mean if i have view, and then i see cops, and i know im somewhat safe i will run
man not going to risk briskwalking

[cinder moon]

and know the difference between concealment and cover

i ain't gonna run at a cop, that is threatening behavior lol

they don't know you from adam

[untold niche]

again, i will say something like sir sir, and i assume they are trained to not shoot at any moving target

[halcyon creek]

The cop doesn’t know if you’re a good guy or a bad guy. And he wants to go home tonight

[cinder moon]

let's be real, just start brainbursting the threats

what's that one ogryn say? "maybe if i think hard enough, i can do what you do sparkead"

[untold niche]

if ogryn think hard enough his brain will explode

[cinder moon]

the ol' self-brainburst

[upper sun]

to beat his wife right?

[smoky wigeon]

Lmao truuuu

[rigid sky]

Statistically speaking, of course.

[ivory path]

Ive been using vent too much lately

become a crutch

keep blowing myself up

[cinder moon]

i love when a sibling is using shield and obviously is used to vent

SHIELD US BELOVED - boom

[ivory path]

Very much an "Emperor take the wheel" moment

well it really started when i decided to begin edging warp rider

[rigid sky]

Warp Rider's one thing

Warp Nexus + Blazing Spirit, though...

It's funny, the 2 builds I have that have the most risky peril situations are the only ones which don't run shriek

I need to tweak my gun build some more I think

I dropped mind in motion and I actually regret it

I feel like it's probably the only psyker build where you quell enough for MiM to be worth it

actually nvm can't make it fit lmao

[cunning plinth]

i forgot, does perfect timing benefit soulblaze damage?

[rigid sky]

It's warp damage right?

The talent I mean

If so then yes iirc

[upper sun]

i dont think its effected by player buffs just target debuffs

or wait

no it is effected by both but im not sure warp damage applies

[spice veldt]

ye it counts as a warp attack

[supple sedge]

Dont worry sparkhead ill get you up

Used to sparkhead blowing up.

[upper sun]

real damnation gameplay

(the healing station is behind me)

(we had full ammo before crate)

[supple sedge]

Elevator there too

[upper sun]

tbh i cant talk too much shit about this game i knowingly aggroed a DH for ~70 plasteel

[supple sedge]

70 plasteel worth it

[upper sun]

[supple sedge]

Ulgo worth 70 plasteel. Take plasteel Ulgo get up by himself

[upper sun]

if only

[supple sedge]

It is in Ulgos eyes

[halcyon gust]

WHY

Those could been so useful for the boss fight

I can't even fault scriptures either since that isn't a side objective active

I SWEAR some darktide players play with Horse blinders on

Or play with a set "line" and going beyond that "Line" is heresy

[vestal fulcrum]

Some players certainly should consider playing with headphones on

[halcyon gust]

Or at least sounds unmuted

[upper sun]

my chat was blocked for some reason

i really wanted to throw in a "bruh"

is there a chat ban in this game?

i only really say fuck hadron or shut up robobitch so that could be it

[vestal fulcrum]

Sometimes the chat service can fall apart

Especially if you’ve switched characters between missions

[upper sun]

ah thats prolly it yeah

i do that a bunch

[vestal fulcrum]

If you haven’t seen your messages, nor others’, then it might have just been the chat service shidding the bed

[icy garnet]

is there even a reason to aggro demonhosts

do you get like extra ordo and exp from killing those guys

[upper sun]

plasteel and two zealots

[vestal fulcrum]

Mostly plasteel though

[upper sun]

ofc

[icy garnet]

wait they give plasteel on kill ?

[upper sun]

no

the plasteel was near where it spawned

[vestal fulcrum]

No, but they sometimes occupy an area with a plasteel can spawned in

[upper sun]

i could see two big piles on it and one small one on the way

i didnt have a choice

[icy garnet]

but do thet give anything on kill

[upper sun]

nope

[vestal fulcrum]

No, only a Melk “kill monstrosities” assignment completion, if you actually kill it

[upper sun]

one penance but thats just for the first one you kill

yeah also that

[icy garnet]

not even exp or ordo ?

how do these even scale anyway

[vestal fulcrum]

Nothing. They are a sleeping bear you avoid.

[upper sun]

more threat level more damage and hp

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, you typically avoid anyway, but you know how things can go awry

[icy garnet]

i remember seeing a guy in damnation just run toward it and starting to kill it with no care in the world

[restive ice]

because it’s funny

[upper sun]

hammer zealot?

[vestal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/seinfeld-not-that-theres-anything-wrong-with-that-gif-10732604

[icy garnet]

i think it was a knife zealot

im the one that runs hammer zealot

i still need to improve my build

cant instakill stuff yet

[upper sun]

i still need thrust 4

[icy garnet]

i think the beast is the only boss i can instakill

but i need a combat stim for that

[jovial juniper]

Sometimes a dh spawns right in front of the medstation

[upper sun]

or a rescue site

[rigid sky]

The toxic knife zealots are multiplying I think

[upper sun]

all zealots hear the call of the blade its hard not everyone can resist forever

jesus can the game fuck off with hunting grounds already i tried to queue up and every single game is hunting grounds

i just wanna farm plasteel without dogs

[rigid sky]

You can use a knife without being 4 rooms ahead of the team

Constantly shedding aggro to them

[upper sun]

nuh uh

[jovial juniper]

The chain is my call

[upper sun]

tbh playing sedation solo is kinda fun

i pulled so much aggro to the final room once and my team was like 4 rooms away

it felt like heresy

[errant pawn]

Just wanted to share my current build, been seeing a lot of success in auric damnation with it 🙂

[wet belfry]

Its alright.

Way too much point investment into assail to be a strong build however.

No mettle, perfect timing is also abit odd on blaze trauma

[vestal fulcrum]

Insane Blaze Trauma but a bad skill tree to support it

[errant pawn]

Yeah I haven’t optimized for the fire trauma, I got it yesterday tbh

But empowered psyonics assail still eats big packs of Ragers or shotgunners

[wet belfry]

Something like disrupt destiny is much more versatile then EP

It buffs more then just the blitz abillty

EP is very limiting in its scope.

Its not like either the weapons you are using outside EP dont want to be buffed

Trauma is infact a top tier weapon within the game

[plucky flax]

No nexus on blaze trauma.

[errant pawn]

I’m not against trying that for sure, I think I would try your changes for the fire trauma 👍

[plucky flax]

The first trauma shown is very good.

I'd put it as rival to my own.

[errant pawn]

I mean, I could put it on but I get way more casts out of flurry,, it kind of evens out?

Thats my main one, the fire one is new

I got lucky!

[wet belfry]

I currently use something like this for blaze trauma

[plucky flax]

More casts but less crit so less warp fire.

[wet belfry]

Id drop kinetic flayer tbh for most builds with it.

[plucky flax]

Gud

[errant pawn]

Ohh ok, so you don’t really use the charge at all? For the fire?

[wet belfry]

Charge is good

Switch between them depending on situation

the video is mainly just showcasing an animation cancel

[errant pawn]

I see. Thanks for helping me leverage my brand new staff

[wet belfry]

LMB is underrated by the majority of psykers in my opinion

[rigid sky]

tbh I don't like EP DD at all

I think EP BR is way better

uh, I don't like EP Assail I mean

In fact I just did a hi5stg commsplex where I think I was using it as my main weapon because we didn't have any other good long range shit apart from the ogryn's gorg stubber

[upper sun]

bb upgrade?

[errant pawn]

The way I like to use assail as a space cutter— it stuns absolutely everything and can deal with spread out hoards or help me peel teammates that have overextended out of my reach of my staff’s charged attack. It’s really useful on those maps with lots of gunners, or hordes of Ragers, shotgunners or unarmoured Machine gunners. I know some might wonder why not just use the bubble but I like that it has killing power and it’s more aggressive

[wet belfry]

Look at how fast LMB is being thrown out.

thats about 3.3 projectiles per second

[upper sun]

whats a lmb? the light effect my staff sometimes makes?

[icy garnet]

left mouse button

[wet belfry]

Left click

[rich spindle]

Doesnt rampage on dueling sword basically never proc

[upper sun]

i dont think i have that

[icy garnet]

brother shooting ur gun and use light attacks is lmb

[upper sun]

guns? this game has guns?

[wet belfry]

Well every second the lmb gives about a ~30% chance to proc for kinetic flayer

Adding kinetic flayer makes it more able to kill targets such as reapers, mutants, crushers.

It can also start up perilous combustion earlier then it would otherwise.

[rich spindle]

You kill crushers with staff lmb?

Wow

[upper sun]

technically you need lmb for the secoundary attack too

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/alonzo-mourning-gary-payton-miami-heat-no-well-gif-4562705

[wet belfry]

6 seconds to kill a reaper

[upper sun]

thats not a crusher and u clearly have surge

[wet belfry]

You can see the icon for warp nexus in the bottom and you can clearly see him burning from soulblaze from blazing spirit

theres no surge

[dim parrot]

there is surge on my trauma sadly enough