psyker-class

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b839ac8-beab-4c1d-be3b-7bfc59b6281c/sample-gunker

I'd suggest something like this for gaze (by suggest I mean this is my exact build)

[vestal fulcrum]

Is there any merit in using Reality Anchor upgrade on Gaze, over Precognition?

[glossy ember]

if you run a staff that can't headshot, or if you run a staff.

[wind spruce]

I don't think so outside of staffs, the finesse is very powerful

[weary crane]

Uhh, soulstealer doesnt trigger when I kill via warp

[wind spruce]

It should...

[vestal fulcrum]

What's the "warp attack" in question?

[wind spruce]

Based

[weary crane]

this

Unless it does it instantly?

[wind spruce]

You're at full toughness?

[glossy ember]

brain burst should work tho

[vestal fulcrum]

Brain Rupture is a warp-based attack, so it should proc Soulstealer no problem

Also, yeah, you are at full toughness in Psykhanium always, if you don't use mods

[weary crane]

its because it does it instantly though

because the ones that regen over time do show up on max tough

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's instant. It's not a buff for toughness over time

It's not like Essence Harvest

Because you're getting a buff for that time

[weary crane]

Okay cool

I was checking if soulblaze counts as warp kill/damage

[rigid sky]

It does

[wind spruce]

It certainly does

Only guns, melee hits (except charged force swords) and burn/bleed damage don't count as warp damage

[weary crane]

Hmmm, I'm using soulblaze build with purga, I really want to use assail instead of rupture but that means I sacrifice wildfire

[rigid sky]

Wildfire is kinda crap

But I prefer rupture with purgatus anyway lol

[weary crane]

it means im more likely to trigger in fire reborn though

[urban sandal]

assail and purg fill a similar role, you don't really need both

[rigid sky]

Oh god you're the guy I was arguing with about that earlier

Not gonna touch this discussion then

[urban sandal]

i don't even know who you are

tf

[rigid sky]

Not you lol

[weary crane]

Im always in asiuation where the shooters are spread out and just out of range

[urban sandal]

oh

[rigid sky]

You're cool

[weary crane]

my purga cant reach them and my rupture is too slow

[wind spruce]

Then slide towards them

[rigid sky]

Venting Shriek is huge :D

Just make sure to use it at 85% peril and up

(Which is why Shriek builds shouldn't take peril reduction btw)

[glossy ember]

assail op

[urban sandal]

bb op

[rigid sky]

OP with support tbh

Hate it without DD and kinda dislike it without SG too

[wind spruce]

I miss assail weaving 😢

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t. It was an abomination

And probably the only reason to use certain blessings on your ranged weapons

[wind spruce]

I mean... I used dum dum anyway

And for me it was more for the damage against armour type perks

[vestal fulcrum]

Fair enough, although for the overall health of the underlying victims of weaving and how it translated into “optimal” gameplay, I’m somewhat glad it’s gone

Victims of weaving = balance state of certain things, naturally

[rigid sky]

Assail is meant to be bad vs Crushers

If it isn't, then why bring brain rupture

[vestal fulcrum]

Oh yeah, whenever you have Assail critting Maulers and Crushers for values in thousands, it’s a problem

[wind spruce]

I agree the uncanny interaction was broken

[rigid sky]

And brain rupture is obviously the coolest blitz

So it needs to be worthwhile

[vestal fulcrum]

You crunch a tiny mind. Very satisfying.

[rigid sky]

The new interaction with Kinetic Resonance and Enhanced Psionics is just so satisfying too

Feels like I'm using a plasma rifle

Except less burn, more splat

It's like being that one character from The Boys

[bold badger]

https://tenor.com/view/i'll-handle-it-victoria-neuman-gen-v-leave-it-to-me-i'll-deal-with-it-gif-13287402729753151283

[mental grail]

lol, lmao

okay headache hands

[rigid sky]

I used to call full parties of Psykers "Team Cluster Headache" before the patch 13 stuff

[mental grail]

lol

I joined after patch 13 so I never really got all the bb memes

now all my remaining penance are bb related

[rigid sky]

It was worse when you needed it for warp charges

[mental grail]

Not being able to say "nah lmao" to crowds is beating my ass

[rigid sky]

I kinda like the feeling of it atm

[mental grail]

is it good now?

[rigid sky]

Well I usually take brain rupture only when my staff is strong anti-horde

On its own it feels too slow still but with Kinetic Resonance it's great, with Kinetic Resonance and Enhanced Psionics it's crazy

But tbh if you're purgatus with warp Siphon you probably can't afford to boost it and it's still good enough to take and to use

It's a blitz, not a weapon

So it has to be compared with stuff like grenades

And I think it's fine in those contexts

[halcyon gust]

Back in the Ye olde days of Psykers how they get warp charges is BB things it didn't matter if it was a boss or a pox walker

So Psykers are always trying to BB a random fodder enemy only for your local vet shoots the head off of it

Or if you have multiple psykers at once

Targetting the same enemy

[bold badger]

I never felt it was ever not good. I still prefer to run it in most instances. The only reason I made assail and smite builds was because I needed something different and to challenge me. Running BB and purg was too easy to play

[plucky flax]

They should make it so each charge add 1 stack to creeping flames. So I can do 12 stacks shriek.

[mental grail]

Voistrike/Assail/Illisi is as effective for significantly less work

Before the charge time buffs switching to BB just felt like handicapping yourself for no benefit

Now BB actually seems competitive

[rigid sky]

I still liked BR for being able to charge one up when you heard a dog coming and because it's better at snapping gunners and snipers down reliably rather than quickly

And the fact that it lets you safely engage bosses, Crushers, Maulers

[pine carbon]

I used to be one of those brain burst haters without really giving it a chance, now I feel naked without it

especially with psionics, it's reliable, safe and satisfying. Only problem is you sacrifice any kind of quick area damage without a staff

[rigid sky]

You kinda always take it with an area staff though imo

I run brain rupture only with Trauma and Purgatus personally

Which both have antigroup very well covered

[pine carbon]

Yea I just mean like, usually you can make do with other builds but when you don't cover for what Brain Burst lacks, you REALLY feel it on psyker if that makes sense

[rigid sky]

Yeah, kinda. I always look at my ranged first and then make everything else fit around it for psyker though

[plucky flax]

Use illisi for quick area damage.

[rigid sky]

I don't pick up Rupture unless I know that's the hole I need to fill

[pine carbon]

psionics + speed stimm brain burst machine gun build

I wish they would make stimms more involved with specific builds

why not give vets field improv talent a 20% increase to stimm effects or something

instead of just stimms being plopped down in the game world without a second thought

[jovial juniper]

I already run field improv, this would please me a lot

[halcyon gust]

I always have the idea that certain enemy types have a chance of dropping stimms if they go die

[jovial juniper]

And the carnival should have a higher chance

[halcyon gust]

Yeah. Would make sense in lore

[mental grail]

I feel naked using it lol

[hidden crystal]

Which was, of course, even more irritating prior to whichever patch (8, maybe?) made it so your charges drained one at a time rather than losing your entire stack all in one.

[supple sedge]

Ulgo feel naked without pants

Or without ragtie hat

[hidden crystal]

I still like running Rupture/Shriek builds because it's what I'm familiar with from the start.

I've stopped bothering with Warp Charges though, because although those used to be a huge part of my old builds, they've changed them too heavily.

[pine carbon]

same, I stopped using warp charges and swapped to psionics, u can always keep one up if u pick ur elites well

[radiant frigate]

hate warp charges

[halcyon gust]

If only that can be given to disrupt destiny (Maybe make you lose half your current stacks if the timer expires)

[radiant frigate]

but DD is epic

[hidden crystal]

It used to be you could keep them topped reasonably well with a bit of work, but now you're forced to take what used to be Quicken (burn your entire stack whenever you use your ult for faster cooldown), but without one of its major benefits (that it doubled, at least in later patches, any charges you gained) and without being able to BB light targets to build it up again quickly, it's just a pain when it comes to maintaining breakpoints.

If I had the option to still have it work as it did (which I suppose is a hassle now there's a choice of blitzes), I'd probably still use it on some builds, but I hate making my ult an "immediately knock a quarter off your damage" button.

[halcyon gust]

Many psykers enjoying trying to get the 300 seconds with full warp charges in a single game today compare to pre-U13

[silk vigil]

That one is pretty doable in auric maelstrom to be fair.

[hidden crystal]

That was not fun back when I was first trying to get it.

[halcyon gust]

I got it more by accident

[pine carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/silent-hill-james-sunderland-gif-18482511

I remember doing this at launch

shit took forever cause me n 2 mates did it in private games

one turn after the other

[main wyvern]

guys how good are the soulblaze talents really? i see a lot of people recommending them but trying them in the meat grinder it literally does nothing

[halcyon gust]

Pretty solid

Meat grinder is better at testing how your weapon performs more than skills

[hidden crystal]

Eventually I got it on Enclavum Baross, which is the one level where there's no airlocks or elevators for my warp charges to be draining away while someone's dawdling.

[main wyvern]

i'll kill a special to proc the aoe soulblaze and it ticks for like 8 damage.

[halcyon gust]

The more stacks of soulblaze is on something

The more damage it deals

[pine carbon]

Warpfire does a lot more than you think it does, the talents by themselves like wildfire aren't too impressive if they don't synergize with the rest of your build

Stacking soulblaze is where the real power is

which is what makes the purgatus staff so powerful

[halcyon gust]

Which is great on Purge staff and Flame Trauma builds

Since they can spread the soul fire

[main wyvern]

right but i see people recommend those talents on a non purgatus build

[halcyon gust]

Often times it's with a Flame Trauma staff build

[main wyvern]

i'm running voidstrike/deimos/smite build and they recommended i should grab wildfire and the other one

i'm just curious why

[halcyon gust]

Voidstrike is pretty awful for it

[hidden crystal]

Or with the soulblaze shriek talent.

[halcyon gust]

That too

[pine carbon]

My main method for stacking up soulblaze is purgatus to high peril, shriek, then uncanny strike + blazing spirit on my force sword

[main wyvern]

i wanted to try a burn build. do you run brain burster?

i don't like that skill ):

[pine carbon]

Powerful enough to kill everything up to crushers without high peril, and w/ high peril it can reach a crusher bp, I don't have the sciences down tho

I run BB to make up for the Purgatus' lack of range. Smite and Purgatus do not mix well together.

[main wyvern]

yes i wanted to run assail but

can't reach the soulblaze talents

[pine carbon]

That's the challenge then. I didn't like BB for the longest time until about, 2 weeks ago

[hidden crystal]

BB is one of those things that people either love or hate.

[wind spruce]

You don't need purgatus or flame trauma to benefit incredibly from soul blaze stacking.

[pine carbon]

I run it nowadays with Psionics. It fixes the terrible charge time, and it allows you to deal with Ogryns without having to resort to melee. If you have at least one psionic and save BB for Elites and Specials, you'll always have an instant delete button on hand basically

[wind spruce]

You only need perilous combustion and venting shriek.

If you want to add wildfire, go for it, but it pales in comparison to the other two talents. I've been using it on void for a few days because I had a loose point. It's fine.

[wind spruce]

I run this but without deimos (absolutely wasted with voidstrike) and disrupt destiny.

[feral canyon]

Hi is there a fix for the rainbow colored dome ?

[main wyvern]

i like deimos. it kills a lot of the things my illisi can't in 1 hit

[wind spruce]

Blazing spirit on the force sword is garbage. Your strategy doesn't even make sense since there's a cap on the soulblaze from blazing spirit that you'll already be over by the time you switch to melee.

[hidden crystal]

If you're targeting the same enemies.

[wind spruce]

Void needs something better for when you get swarmed by trash than deimos. Illisi or even a rashad is much better.

[wind spruce]

True for the second half of what I said. Unfortunately, it's still garbage.

It's a meme-only blessing.

[main wyvern]

ya but isn't that the point of smite

cc the horde

[wind spruce]

No, the point of smite is to save your teams ass when you get swarmed by elites. You should only be using it a handful of times per game, and not for hordes. You want something that can chop a few heads quickly to give you space for voidstrike (this also applies to giving you space for smite).

[pine carbon]

nuh uh

but I did just go into meat grinder to check I wasn't talking out my arse and I didn't realize soulblaze stacks don't carry over on killing blow

[wind spruce]

Yuh uh. Sorry, dude. Thinking blazing spirit isn't a meme on force swords is pure clowning.

[pine carbon]

but yea I see now, bye bye blazing spirit

[pine carbon]

lol I get it, no need to be so overzealous

[wind spruce]

Apologies

[pine carbon]

Is all good. I only started toying around with soulblaze recently cause I've been a gun psyker ever since I picked up the class

[main wyvern]

did they nerf voidstrike? it seems a lot weaker than when i last played like a year ago

[wind spruce]

I get it. It's a tantalising idea. I spent weeks back in like March making a perfect blazing spirit Illisi but it was just garbage

[wind spruce]

It's much stronger than it was a year ago

[main wyvern]

really

i remember 1 shotting everything and now it doesn't

maybe i am misremembering

[wind spruce]

Do you mean back in September just after the talent tree reworks?

[main wyvern]

talent trees didn't exist when i last played

[vestal fulcrum]

VS definitely didn’t oneshot most of things pre patch 13

[wind spruce]

Oh then nah, you're misremembering. It's stronger than it was a year ago

And tbf it DOES oneshot everything when surge procs and you have DD up

[pine carbon]

😭

Thrift store ahh blaze force

[main wyvern]

what is dd

[wind spruce]

Disrupt Destiny

[wind spruce]

Just rip uncanny off it

[pine carbon]

just did

[main wyvern]

o i'm using warp siphon

should i swap to disrupt destiny

hey my name is red now

[wind spruce]

Obscurus is outclassed by deimos and illisi

[hidden crystal]

I'll admit that Blazing Spirit has always been very low on my list of Blessings I'd actually choose. (I've almost always ended up with Slaughterer/Deflector).

[wind spruce]

Its a highly debated topic but I certainly think you should.

[main wyvern]

it says every second enemies have a chance of being marked. what is the chance?

[weary crane]

I remember when flurry and slaughter got nerfed😞

[jovial juniper]

Fairly high, but not every enemy

[pine carbon]

All the time, if there are anything stronger than poxwalkers about, one of em will be highlighted

bruisers and above, exception with ogryns n bosses which are never highlighted

[silk vigil]

I’d honestly run DD with Lingering Influence it’s actually not that hard to keep 15 stacks through most of the game.

[wind spruce]

It's a 100% chance that a single enemy gets marked. Only one can get marked at a time. If you kill it you get a stack, with headshot you get three. You can use venting shriek to proc it. You don't need to kill the enemy to refresh your stack, just damage it. Try not to chase the blue man too much. If it falls off, it falls off. Melee headshots are useful for stacking it back up if you're in a slow spot on the map.

[wind spruce]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b83f08c-658e-48cb-9cd2-f63dd95b4457/void-6

Try this

[wind spruce]

Yeah, always run lingering influence

[main wyvern]

imma try to theorize a build before i click, see what you pick vs what i pick

[hidden crystal]

Slaughterer was preposterously good, to the point it usually made not having it on a weapon that could have it a complete brick.

[wind spruce]

Always a good move

Yeah slaughterer at 15% was bonkers

[hidden crystal]

I think I'd've preferred it to go in the direction of loads of tiny stacks to really make it something that had to build up momentum, but it's still in a more reasonable place now than it was.

[pine carbon]

Fixable?

[hidden crystal]

Not that different to the one I use.

[wind spruce]

Not bad at all. Transfer to nexus. Specialists to flak.

Take a duelling sword or deimos to help with crushers since you won't have carapace damage or surge

[pine carbon]

I have a good duelling sword on hand, only other psyker weapon I use regularly

I've been running this on my other voidstrike since launch 😭

[main wyvern]

do you crit a lot? you mentioned surge and you took mettle

[hidden crystal]

Mine's got Flurry at a full T4 and Unarmoured/Flak, but it works well.

[wind spruce]

A shitload. Warp nexus is best in slot blessing for voidstrike, and you also have true aim.

You should be peril edging so almost every void shot is sent at above 80% peril

[pine carbon]

💀

[wind spruce]

Yeehaw, time to farm

[main wyvern]

i need a better voidstrike maybe thats why i don't think it does a lot ofg damage

[pine carbon]

Voidstrike is my least used staff

[main wyvern]

i think i have warp flurry and the peril reduction on headshot

[wind spruce]

The real power of void is surge + nexus

You can oneshot crushers and take down packs of 6 ragers with one shot.

[main wyvern]

and you have the 5% crit chance perk i am assuming?

[wind spruce]

Yeah

[untold niche]

no h meant per

not node

perk run flak cara

[main wyvern]

i shall look into this. my plasteel wallet is crying

[wind spruce]

Wait yeah average is right

I do not have a crit perk

I run flak and carapace

[untold niche]

you can run nexus surge or nexus flurry
personally i feel: Nexus surge better but nexus flurry feels better

[wind spruce]

Yeah I was going back and forth the last few weeks (I've been playing almost exclusively void for like 2 or 3 months lmao) and it took awhile to get used to no flurry

But when you git gud with void surge really starts to shine

Gotta maintain that high peril

[main wyvern]

don't laugh ok this is my staff

[hidden crystal]

Transfer Peril is very usable if you need to keep it for now. Pushes it into more of an anti-horde direction, but it's fun just being able to keep going and going and going.

[wind spruce]

Usable is about right. Like, you can literally use it... but it's a total waste

[untold niche]

you can change unyielding to cara, peril to nexus

[wind spruce]

This anti-horde notion is a bit silly. You don't need transfer to decimate hordes. Quelling is incredibly quick these days.

[main wyvern]

i already swapped one perk to +5% crit

[wind spruce]

Yeah I'd change the crit to flak

[untold niche]

oh yeah uh, imo bricked
but if you want to play void like RIGHT NOW change peril to nexus

[wind spruce]

Agreed

[untold niche]

without crit, no cara perk, crusher BP same?

if yes then do what irosk say

still 2 headshot full charge?

never tried that before

[wind spruce]

I'd rather have flak for one shot gunner guaranteed

And just suffer against crushers

[untold niche]

preference i guess, for me opposite xD

[wind spruce]

Use a duelling sword to compensate

Yeah totally fair

[main wyvern]

whenever i see an ogryn enemy i just smite and let my zealot friend handle it

[untold niche]

you can do that too, but once you have good void

you can just stand at the end of the hallway

just keep shooting

you won't die

full charge headshot stumble crusher

[wind spruce]

My zealot friends don't get a chance to kill the crushers when I'm on void

[untold niche]

you must learn to facetank as void

not must

thats how i play

ah shit

wait

disregard

#psyker-class message

@main wyvern my void guide :v

very long, but its just, lng

theres no paras

[wind spruce]

Voidstrike is like any weapon. Your movement is still the most important part of your game play. Rager close to you? One dodge slide while blocking then one dodge slide while charging. Boom facesplat.

[untold niche]

i line break every phrase/ sentence

rager close i let him hit me, the gods will that the staggered shot hit the correct 1/3 of the screen everytime

no fear

only aim

crusher OH, i charge all the way, no dodge

🐭

[wind spruce]

This is great, the only thing I'd add is that LMB is actually really bloody strong. It's quick and it suppresses and staggers.

[untold niche]

LMB usually use on minigun ogryn

for me at least

or if theres a stray zombie then you feeling lazy

[hidden crystal]

I'm still amused by the (pre-class overhaul) zealot who tagged a bulwark, waited for my BB to stagger it, then blasted it with a bolter while its shield was open.

[wind spruce]

I'll use it on a bunch of things like shooters, gunners, shotgunners, trappers, flamers, poxbursters, trappers

It's not your primary weapon. It's a tool for stagger and interrupts and finishing off stuff on low health

A surge proc LMB to the head will oneshot gunners

[untold niche]

gunner i feel lmb unreliable to kill, never bothered to suppress gunner idk why :v personally feel might as well kill them, and theres wall, not so bad.
oh i didn't know the lmb oneshot gunner on crit

[wind spruce]

I don't rely on it. I can't really explain when exactly it's useful other than its intuitive

Well actually

[untold niche]

also don't like lmb because it fucks up my peril slightly

im a lazy man

[wind spruce]

It's when I have to be mobile, react quickly, or I'm surrounded by trash

I'll be rashading trash around me and just lmb a gunner to the face with a quickswap when I would never have had a chance to charge up

[untold niche]

other than minigun, its also when my DD stack left like 1 second because i can't reach/find mr blue, then i fire frantically at him using LMB
usually all of it misses

[wind spruce]

Hahaha yeah I do that too

[untold niche]

i quickswap to charge, imo the cleave worth tanking 1 hit (not always you tank one hit esp with push)

[wind spruce]

Sometimes you just don't have time/want to optimise your time. I mean like I'm literally surrounded by shit

Ok I should reeeeally get some sleep

[untold niche]

gn dood

[wind spruce]

Night bro

[glossy ember]

psykers are asleep

post heretical gaze builds

[main wyvern]

o no i have no blessings on my voidstrike staff

i thought i had warp nexus but i think that was for surge staff

[untold niche]

Ah if you have plasteel, grind out t4. You need to grind it out either way.
If no plasteel I would suggest not touching void at all

https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/the-mystery-meat-in-dragons-dogma-2-is-actually-real-food-not-cg-we-decided-to-spend-the-same-amount-of-money-on-better-quality-meat/?utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=socialflow&fbclid=IwAR2BA3LU2ZjhgwLZqV1DIvDbqOYCLQRnL7CYHGhRZhyPw516yg41cwXkU_0

@plucky flax very cool. If got coop I would like to play with you

[main wyvern]

i have been grinding t4 missions but spending it on a power sword

[untold niche]

No I meant

[glossy ember]

solo game no coop

[untold niche]

Grind out thr t4 nexus vesting

Blessing

Lmao vesting

[rigid sky]

Try to push to damnation when you can

Much more plasteel

So much more

They should buff heresy plasteel imo

[main wyvern]

i can do damnation but idk if i will get into a game that can beat it

[rigid sky]

It's miserable playing below 5

[main wyvern]

the t4 difficulty i usually complete it and i get to buy 1 grey item and up it to blue

[rigid sky]

Even failing a 5 will probably give you more plasteel than winning a 4

[main wyvern]

hmm i will try that later

[kindred ivy]

daily reminder that EP smite shriek

is awesome

[untold niche]

#zealot-class message

if you struggling on damn

also stick with team one is kinda fake to be honest, but if you are new player i would highly suggest doing that

[untold niche]

btw what level are you on

[main wyvern]

i am level 30

[untold niche]

if, for that checklist the ones that react to enemy you know how to do, and you know kill priority, could be your build.
lemme send sumting

[main wyvern]

i don't have a problem with damnation. i have beaten it a bunch. but if i'm gonna solo queue into it it's not a guranteed win

but the other guy said losing damnation is better than winning heresy?

so i'll try it

[untold niche]

damnation win should be more consistent than heresy

[plucky flax]

Didn't know it have coop.

Thought it's single player game.

[untold niche]

orange is majority agreed but debatable (situation, specific build etc)@main wyvern

[untold niche]

yeah you are right i tot it had, doofen say singleplayer

very sad

[untold niche]

some nodes are literal wastes of points and some nodes are must haves.
try to stick to it unless you know exactly what you are doing

[untold niche]

boodendorf*

keep getting his name wrong

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, Heresy is full of a load of people trying to move up from Malice, and not playing it any differently.

I actually found Damnation easier than Heresy, because the teams worked together better.

[untold niche]

yep, like what marco said

[main wyvern]

this is what i'm runnin

[hidden crystal]

As is, Damnation gives so much more Plasteel than Heresy that your fail rate would have to be horribly worse for it to not be a net win.

[rigid sky]

What weapons are you running? I'd drop the 3 points going down to Solidity on the bottom left tbh

[wind spruce]

Go left after smite not right. Mind in motion is pure garbage and psykinetics aura is one of the best talents in the game

[rigid sky]

3 points that could go in much better places

Soulstealer and Mettle at the top are also really good (depending on your weapon again for Mettle)

[main wyvern]

i don't have any crit

[wind spruce]

Imo puppet master is incredibly underrated

[rigid sky]

Puppet master is a good luxury point imo

I'm objecting more to the two points under it really

but also a little to puppet master while there's still essentials missing

[wind spruce]

Fair

[wind spruce]

You're also missing creeping flames

That is a must pick

[rigid sky]

oh god I didn't even see that

[wind spruce]

Shriek isn't worth it without creeping flames

[rigid sky]

yeah, that's the whole reason to take shriek

If you use it at 85 peril it's a room clear

anything lesser than a maniac dies

[main wyvern]

is it

[wind spruce]

Plus the stacking with perilous combustion

[pine carbon]

no take warp rupture bro you only need 2 shrieks to kill a poxwalker bro

its good bro trust

[wind spruce]

Its one of our strongest talents

[rigid sky]

6 stacks is death to gunners and below iirc

[pine carbon]

I threw this build on my new Voidstrike btw and it did wonders :]

[rigid sky]

and it applies the full 6 stacks across 35 yards forwards

[pine carbon]

I usually never throw DD on outside of gun psyker

but the stats speak

[rigid sky]

DD voidstrike is legit as fuck

Voidstrike has a very easy time hitting blue bois

and benefits from all parts of DD

[hidden crystal]

Coherency provides so many buffs (to yourself, to others, and from others) that if you can find the point to worry less about it, it's pretty worthwhile.

[main wyvern]

is that the end of the run stats?

how do i see the stats

[pine carbon]

mod

[pine carbon]

hi intensity damnation btw

[mental grail]

mod

[wind spruce]

Yep

[main wyvern]

can i use this mod in normal play? wasn't there a special mod users only realm in vermintide

[mental grail]

Devs hide stats purposefully

[wind spruce]

It's so good

[pine carbon]

mods are client side, they're allowed

[hidden crystal]

It can be used in normal play, yes.

[wind spruce]

It's 30

[hidden crystal]

My advice however is do not take it too seriously.

[rigid sky]

mah bad

[hidden crystal]

Despite the mod name being "Scoreboard", use it as a feedback tool, not a ranking.

[untold niche]

follow the guide xD
top part can be changed, mind i motion can be changed to the left hand side one

[pine carbon]

If you do get around to adding scoreboard, take the time to turn actual scores off and only show stats you actually care about. No one cares about someone 20 score higher than you cause they carried an ammo box for 2 minutes

[untold niche]

@main wyvern

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, or getting a massive score because they were constantly running off after plasteel in the middle of hordes.

[untold niche]

wait i know you know, im just asking it because it just reminded me
yards is smaller or bigger than meters? bigger right?

[pine carbon]

This. It's best as a feedback tool for certain builds. Usually I know when I'm playing like shit anyways without it

[wind spruce]

Pretty sure they just mean metres

[untold niche]

ya thats why i said i know he knows

im just asking

because it was mentioned

[wind spruce]

Fair

[untold niche]

also go to sleep photoshop pfp boy

[hidden crystal]

Ultimately, being the person who killed the most elites, specials, disablers, etc is not what matters; the game isn't about competing with the other players, it's about cooperating with them.

[wind spruce]

Lmao

[untold niche]

i have 12 year old ego, its what matters the most for me
I need the pepe where he wipe tear off his eye

[pine carbon]

This is why I miss the friendly fire stat from Vermintide

[main wyvern]

so you think mind in motion is bad? whenever i don't run it i get mad when quelling

[pine carbon]

now that was a competitive element

[wind spruce]

I love my horrible teen face from 15 years ago on my old WoW hunter

[untold niche]

you can quell for 1-2 tick (i can't rmb since i haven't played psyker in very long, but i think 1 tick) during your slide

thats why people don't take MIM

also im an average player, the guide was made from what all the top 1% elite gamer psykers say

im just here to pay it forward

[wind spruce]

Plus you can just slide into turn camera 90° dodge slide to keep going forward and get more ticks

[untold niche]

make newbie game experience easier and more fun

[untold niche]

there is still friendly fire, at least in ovenproof. not sure if its working tho

[pine carbon]

It's shots blocked I think? Nah I mean full blasting off the Wutelgi's skull with bounty hunter ult

[untold niche]

i think got two, one is shots blocked and the other one is FF

[wind spruce]

Barrel damage

[untold niche]

true darktide coop is cooperating to get all the plasteels

nothing else matters

[hidden crystal]

Sometimes, the most useful thing you can be doing during a game is not be trying to kill things, but be protecting another player who's better suited to whatever the current threat is.

[wind spruce]

Yes, you should protect me

[mental grail]

Which of these is better for general high BB spam?

[tired estuary]

yeah lets put in friendly fire to see which class with revolver kills the others the quickest

[mental grail]

constant vent or warp charges?

[untold niche]

all the good builds can do mostly everything though :v
on my void i only struggle slightly against gunners
how to protect the guy shooting at gunners.

[wind spruce]

They're both bad. Never take kinetic flayer, and if you want to BB spam not taking kinetic resonance is just weird

[untold niche]

best way to protekt him is to help kill gunners

best protection

im on my half serious but 20IQ mode, don't get too frustrated skroll
Mean what i say but very badly put

[main wyvern]

what curio stats do you guys use? i'm running 2 tough and a health with toughness regen, reduced gunner dam, and a random one because my curios are bad, but i was thinking block efficiency? more health/tough?

[wind spruce]

Never take block efficiency. Stam is always superior to block efficiency. I always run combat ability reduction.

[untold niche]

don't take flayer plos
i rather you take resonance, actual use

[main wyvern]

do i need reduced gunner dam if i'm running the block ranged damage perk on my sword?

[untold niche]

ya

[mental grail]

good for insurance

I usually take two

[rigid sky]

I have no idea how far a yard/metre is intuitively lol

[wind spruce]

You don't need either tbh, but I like two x gunner resisf so I can tank them while lining up void shots

[rigid sky]

I think I just had FFXIV brain

[untold niche]

but my curio perks i run 3x CDR and 3x toughness regen

[wind spruce]

Me too, it's great

[untold niche]

1 meter around your arm wingspan in T pose

[mental grail]

just kr?

[wind spruce]

Toughness regen is underrated these days

[untold niche]

did i convince you to do that?

at least the CD

CDR

im sure toughness regen was shilled by pygex

[wind spruce]

Nah I've been it for months

Pygex has been anti shilling it since patch 13

[untold niche]

ya, is this build "i do this because i want" or "i do this because its good"

[untold niche]

no he shilling toughness regen. not talking about cdr

[mental grail]

to be good, this build is for a few penance

[wind spruce]

pSyKEr aLrEAdy hAs tONs oF tOUghNeSs rEgEn

[hidden crystal]

If you're both free to shoot at gunners, sure! But if those two players end up constantly having to switch between shooting at gunners and meleeing poxwalkers, it's less efficient than one doing the shooting and the other keeping them clear to do so, particularly if the trash threatens to flush them out of whatever cover they're using against the ranged threats.

[wind spruce]

As if more isn't better given how toughness gating works

[untold niche]

i expect him to be able to shove the zombie then go to cover, not my fault other player bad

unless hes actually dying

[vestal fulcrum]

Also, you can save skill points by not overspending on toughness replenishment

[untold niche]

then different matter

else he can tank the 30-50% hp damage

[wind spruce]

I meant toughness regen

[untold niche]

you read atheneum, he say toughness regen good
hes the old that told me to run it

[wind spruce]

Yeah I just looked it up

Must've been others

My b

[wind spruce]

The only one you shouldn't take is the 2.5% per 10% peril generated imo

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, yeah, but I often see people take 3+ replenishment skills, whereas I mostly rely on Quietude and Mettle

I’ve stopped taking Soulstealer even

[wind spruce]

Depends on the build

If you're running warp charges you probably need to cut one

If not, you have room for three

[untold niche]

this my build

[wind spruce]

Yeah that's the same as mine except I drop solidity and the filler node for two 15 toughness nodes

[vestal fulcrum]

This a Voidstrike build?

[untold niche]

yes bos

[vestal fulcrum]

Based

[wind spruce]

The best voidstrike build

[untold niche]

ofc im best voidstrike player

what is the filler node

[vestal fulcrum]

Small node with an attribute increase

[untold niche]

solidity very good for 2 tick quell so i take it @wind spruce

oh

[hidden crystal]

Whether they can swap between threats, and whether it's efficient for them to swap between threats are not the same thing. Lots of weapons have blessings that require you to keep up some kind of a streak to get the best out of them, quite aside from how it can interrupt the player's rhythm.

Teams working as one to keep threats off each other's backs are going to do better than four lone wolves who just happen to be in coherency.

[wind spruce]

Eh, I only quell to 70-80% between shots

[untold niche]

ya, 100 to 80 is 2 ticks

from ~75 full charge is 100

[untold niche]

but the second one better for plasteel

[wind spruce]

Is it? My brain's telling me I can get a full charge off at low 80s

[hidden crystal]

Where I can, I try to keep watch for when others are being flanked or overwhelmed, rather than just prioritising my own kill score.

[wind spruce]

But I know if I need to aim longer I'll need to be at low 70s

[lapis violet]

greens are something you should take, reds are a never take and oranges are "consider through and through if you want this"?

[wind spruce]

You should really add a green circle around psykinetics

[wind spruce]

Yes except oranges circles are more "pretty damn good"

[lapis violet]

why are both smite perks red? enfeeble i could understand but lightning storm needs a bit of an explanation

[wind spruce]

That's garbage

[wind spruce]

Lightning storm doesn't really do anything for the right click charge

[lapis violet]

and enfeeble is bad because it's just mediocre?

[wind spruce]

Yeah

Lots of better options

I'd rather have a 15 toughness node

[lapis violet]

how do i run this?

[untold niche]

not consider, avoid (if its cross) unless you know exactly what you are doing, take if its circle

[untold niche]

which one lightning storm

[lapis violet]

left one

[untold niche]

ep tree?

[wind spruce]

Great for trauma, surge and purgatus. Take the left hand of the first option then the right hand of the second.

Enjoy free cooldown reductions, peril efficiency and damage

[lapis violet]

what i was asking is how to spec that specific thing, not what it's good for

i wonder why it isn't good for voidstrike?

[wind spruce]

It's not bad for voidstrike. I'm just a Disrupt Destiny voidstrike stan

[lapis violet]

DD voidstrike is nice

[untold niche]

@lapis violet can you screenshot lightning storm

[wind spruce]

The issue is also with voidstrike you usually want true aim

[untold niche]

oh the smite

[wind spruce]

Which makes it very difficult to get enough of the warp charge talents

[untold niche]

iirc the +1 doesn't matter that much
all the pro peepol say don't take

either don't matter that much or straight up don't work can't rmb

[lapis violet]

i have a scrier (voidstrike dd assail), a storm witch (surge smite) and a pain witch (purgatus BR)

nicely thematic builds

[wind spruce]

I sat there testing it in the psykhanium for a couple of hours and i couldn't feel a difference with the RMB

With LMB it definitely helps

[lapis violet]

"why voidstrike for scrier?" because gunker is a meme

[wind spruce]

Gunker is one of the strongest builds in the game

[untold niche]

couple hours? gangster

[lapis violet]

are these two even good for surge staff?

[vestal fulcrum]

Surge staff inherently had bigger Crit rate than other staves, so, yes

[wind spruce]

Of course. You crit lots. Enjoy free speed, toughness and damage

[untold niche]

all psyker builds secondary can crit , thats why those two is circled green

[vestal fulcrum]

Mettle only ever procs on up to two targets with Surge, but even that can net you a lot of toughness

[wind spruce]

Mettle with trauma 🤤

[lapis violet]

wait can purgatus crit?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[lapis violet]

tf? how come i've never noticed it

[untold niche]

but it doesn't scale well right?

thats what i rmb.

[wind spruce]

Purg crits apply two soulbkaze stacks

[untold niche]

might be wrong

[wind spruce]

What doesn't scale well?

[untold niche]

the afterburn damage

[lapis violet]

meaning those two still work well?

[untold niche]

ya

[wind spruce]

I'm confused still

[untold niche]

wait, soulblaze doesn't get more damage from crit right

[wind spruce]

No

Soul blaze can't crit

Purg can

When it crits it applies two stacks

And does a little more direct damage iirc

[untold niche]

oh, how does purge work
can do yu apply maximally 1 stack no crit
or 1 stack per second

[wind spruce]

I'm not a purg expert

Pretty sure it's more than one stack per second

[lapis violet]

this doesn't actually feel bad? why is it not good?

[untold niche]

ohhhh

[untold niche]

because 15 second cooldown and most likely you are just going to hit a zombie
I think theres people defending it on purg

[wind spruce]

Because the cooldown is too long and it's unreliable both in how quickly it procs and the target it hits.

[lapis violet]

from experience, it doesn't focus smalls

[wind spruce]

You want damage you can rely on.

[untold niche]

still CD and low % is bad enuf

[lapis violet]

if i'm firing my purg at a rager and a small, it hits the rager 100% of the time

[untold niche]

i think thats why people defend it on purg

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s half the point. The matter is, if doesn’t prioritise anything, it just happens

Outside of your control, sometimes

[untold niche]

oh it doesnt

?

[vestal fulcrum]

And BRing a horde enemy is about as useful as it seems

[untold niche]

dk i think i did see people saying what hope is saying, but either way its not worth unless on purge then you decide i guess

[wind spruce]

Yeah it does have some prioritisation

But it can still get wasted on a small

There's too many other better things to spend points on

By a big margin

[lapis violet]

i have a choice to make with my last point, then: warp expenditure, battle meditation, empathic visions, toughness damage reduction, puppet master or 5% ms boost

[untold niche]

just show ur current build, then circle in green what you considering

[wind spruce]

With purg?

[lapis violet]

yes, purg BR

[lapis violet]

can't ss the whole thing at once so i'm not doing that

[wind spruce]

Venting shriek?

[lapis violet]

venting shriek with fire augment

unless that sucks also

[wind spruce]

Don't take battle meditation, then. It should only ever be taken with scriers tbh

Nah creeping flames is awesome

[untold niche]

use the build website

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

Idk i feel EE would do great on purg

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s arguably the most versatile ability the Psyker has

[untold niche]

irosk whats empathic visions

[wind spruce]

Empathic evasion

[untold niche]

oh, then yeah i feel take that

[lapis violet]

i swear that just changed

like, just changed

[untold niche]

also show ur full build in the build website, may have to zoom out abit tho

showwww

[wind spruce]

Wait have I been saying empathetic evasion instead of empathic for 6 fucking months

[untold niche]

easier to help

[wind spruce]

Or am I just bleary eyed

Fuck

[untold niche]

you empathetic

[lapis violet]

same word if i'm not mistaken

[wind spruce]

😭

[untold niche]

i think because you don't know empathic as a word. i didn't know either

looks quite similar

and no one really reads the skill node name in detail

[lapis violet]

i do

except for now i guess

[wind spruce]

Oh you're right

Alternative spellings

[lapis violet]

yup

mind in motion bad?

[untold niche]

bad

can slide quell

[wind spruce]

Yes

[mighty cipher]

That's beacuse if things die fast they're less likely to take enough hits to roll the super crit.

[lapis violet]

perilous combustion for a scrier's gaze gunker?

[untold niche]

PC for everything

[wind spruce]

For every Psyker

[lapis violet]

i now have a gunker build

[untold niche]

dood

its literally

in the guide

:(

we just typing the guide pic stuffs again

[lapis violet]

and?

[untold niche]

i mean you can ask why

but why would you want to ask if you should if its literally there.

[lapis violet]

y'all know what's a pain? having to do thing because i'm a fool

[vestal fulcrum]

Sometimes it’s the necessary evil if you want to branch out from right to left

But it generally doesn’t do much as a skill

[hollow current]

I don't take Perilous Combustion.

[untold niche]

idk maybe you feel insecure about getting info from a pic instead of a convo even though its from the same people

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s roughly on par with the small node that it precedes, being Inspiring Presence

[untold niche]

the 5% tdr way better than MIM

[vestal fulcrum]

You may be missing out on some SINGE every once in a while

[untold niche]

oh you mean it precdes

not precdes it

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, yeah, it is

[untold niche]

wait both is tdr

[vestal fulcrum]

The middle of the tree small node is Inspiring Presence

Which is a garbage filler node

[untold niche]

can find inspiring

i think i dumb dumb bro

cna't

[pine carbon]

weird that it has a name instead of just, tdr

[untold niche]

wait is the website one different

[pine carbon]

it's above that

the small node

[lapis violet]

oh

[untold niche]

oh LOL

[lapis violet]

i got scared for a moment

[main wyvern]

what are the chances i get t4 warp nexus on the next upgrade

[untold niche]

i was wondering how come the aura no longer have cdr

[untold niche]

YOU MISS ALL THE SHOTS YOU DON'T TAKE

[lapis violet]

none

[untold niche]

Either way you need to grind out for the t4, don't be sad it gets bricked

[main wyvern]

i get sad every time

[pine carbon]

pretty sure this is bricked anyways but may as well try

[hollow current]

what's the % of t4 blessings on the 2nd blessing anyways?

[untold niche]

i got my void within 350 dockets, to get surge blessing i farmed for 12 gold weapons tho

[pine carbon]

I am still yet to see surge on a voidstrike

[untold niche]

be glad you don't have to grind out actual god roll weapons

where mr agent and his pretty unicorn trauma

and all the vets with god rolled caxe

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s because it’s not TDR, it’s an increase to toughness replenished through coherency

[untold niche]

80 80 80 80 (60), 4/4

[pine carbon]

still surprised it hasn't got a generic name

[untold niche]

thats what confused by

me*

[pine carbon]

like toughness coherency replenishment or smth

[vestal fulcrum]

Probably just another example of FS being fancy with words

Toughness Replenishment Boost doesn’t sound very compelling

[pine carbon]

Inspiring Presence I'm sold

[vestal fulcrum]

You inspire people to regenerate toughness quicker while in coherency

Truly compelling

[untold niche]

meanwhile gaze

+20 toughness

"Endurance"

[hollow current]

Gaze is goated.

Warp Speed

Precognition

[still pelican]

these are both un-modified... what should I do?

[hollow current]

first. Shred to uncanny strike. perks are good but try it out.

[hollow current]

second rampage to uncanny strike. same with the perks. tho i prefer flak over carapace. most the other peeps like carapace

[hollow current]

this one is bricked

[still pelican]

bad blessings and perks

what are meta blessings and perks for Mk IV duelling sword?

[hollow current]

yeah. i mean you can salvage it somewhat. but the first two are just so much better that the third may as well be useless.

Meta is Uncanny + whatever preferred blessing (it's precognition though). For perks it's maniacs+ flak or carapace depending on what you do.

This what I try to build.

[still pelican]

thankyou

very

much

been trying for ages to get an answer on this.

[hollow current]

damn, really? I feel like people are pretty on the spot with the MK IV

[glossy ember]

so true bestie

[untold niche]

Wait does ds4 need a godroll

[hollow current]

not really? You want Finesse, Damage and Penetration to be high as possible of course and I think in that order. Tho with uncanny strike III or IV, the penetration stat isn't as important.

The difference between my two swords is the one on the right does 4% more damage to flak

[untold niche]

so you godrolled one for the sake of it?

goddam

[hollow current]

Still trying.

I need to get uncanny 4

It won't be much of a change but I'll be happy.

[orchid shadow]

Anyone notice they're back filling teams more than usual lately? Masozi has flown me in solo for 12 of my last 15 games, half of them into a "wtf just happened hereOMG FLAMER!" scenario.

[hollow current]

Doing a quick bit of testing it seems Damage scales slightly better than Finesse. So between Damage and Finesse you'd prefer Damage to be the higher stat.

[hollow current]

maybe half my games.

[upper sun]

less people are playing now

and idk maybe the average skill level dropped too

[untold niche]

for sure dmg scale better than finese

wait i didn't mean to sound rude

[hollow current]

you think you're better than me, bucko?

[untold niche]

sowwy~~~

i am top 49% voidstike, top 50% everything else

[plucky flax]

That's really poor.

[rotund fable]

This was a mission reward, before i even bother concecrating it, is this thing theoretically usable? or is it bricked as is? (i dont know a lot about laspistol gameplay)

[untold niche]

yes im average player

🐭

[plucky flax]

[halcyon gust]

That's pretty solid

[untold niche]

emperor

bles u

[halcyon gust]

As long as Hadron doesn't give you a shit blessing on Orange. You can replace +Infested for Maniac and change Reassure Toughness 2 for a higher rank of it

Laspistols have a naturally high crit rate of 15%

So there's a decent reason to consider running +Crit chance on it to make that crit rate go even more bonkers

[rich spindle]

What do you guys run on curios

[upper sun]

just by reading tool tips you become top 30%

[upper sun]

+3 stamina 1 toughness 1 health

toughness+combat cool down and whatever resistance i can get

[rich spindle]

Any thoughts on toughness regen

[upper sun]

its not so good for psykers because we get great regen from quell/peril gen/warp kills

tough of those options are usually enough

[rich spindle]

I see...

[untold niche]

i run 3x toughness regen and 3x CDR

maybe i should run 3x CDR and 3x gunner

[rich spindle]

I dont understand health over toughness

[untold niche]

but important to me is CDR

CDR give you like 3~4 seconds off VS

if you run 3x tier 4

CDR node give you 3 seconds

total 6 seconds shaved off

very cool very swag

but i run void

[rich spindle]

I need that gunner and bomber reist -_-

[untold niche]

don't need bombur resist anymore

[upper sun]

yeah and after the gunner nerf its not as bad

but gunners are very common and its one of the best resistances to get

[untold niche]

even CDR not mandatory, im average so i need to spam VS alot :(

[plucky flax]

2x hp 1x toughness. Perks: 2x sniper resist, 3x toughness regen, 3x extra hp, 1x extra toughness

[halcyon gust]

1 +3 Stamina and 2 Toughness

[upper sun]

just dodge the snipers

[plucky flax]

I'm not that good.

[halcyon gust]

Perks

• 3x gunner resistance
• 3x toughness
• Whatever random perk left over

[upper sun]

if you're not that good then who the hell is

[rich spindle]

I understand that +hp technically gives you more ehp than toughness, but toughness regens

[plucky flax]

It's for the random moment.

[upper sun]

but i guess my style of jumping around like an idiot is better for dodging snipers

[halcyon gust]

Psyker has pretty solid Toughness Regen

[plucky flax]

Lag or when shot from behind.

[halcyon gust]

So I build to abuse that pretty well

[plucky flax]

I rarely get hit by sniper but when I do I'm thankful for sniper resist.

[upper sun]

just dont play vent purge

[halcyon gust]

Plus more toughness gives you more leadway on taking gun fire from shooters

[rich spindle]

Sometimes i swear gunners glitch out and hit every single bullet in their volley on you

[halcyon gust]

Why you use your shield sibling If you have it

[upper sun]

my issue with gunners is that they have better accuracy than snipers

[halcyon gust]

Why I tend to runner gunner resistance on my Curios

that 51%~ reduction against them helps (Assuming you have 3 gunner resistance active on your curios)

[plucky flax]

Kinda tanky ngl.

[rich spindle]

Is there a threshold for mutie resist where you dont take damage from them slamming you

[halcyon gust]

Make sure there's a wall between you and Muties

And a MUtie does 0 damage to you

Muties if they grab you and is close to a wall will just toss you instead of delivering your meal

[rich spindle]

I see

[halcyon gust]

And Muties don't do that much damage

[rich spindle]

90% of my deaths are muties holding me over flame

[halcyon gust]

Why walls are nice so you can skip to the part they just yeet you

Another Mutie fun fact

They don't throw you out of the map*

*Assuming it doesn't glitch out

[rich spindle]

Ive been thrown off the map once lol

[pine carbon]

happened to me once

im still mad

[halcyon gust]

Okay

That usually don't throw you out of the map

Outside of extreme situations

[untold niche]

@rich spindle bro trust on psyker the curio perk don't matter that much

even curio itself imo don't matter that much

Just pick whatever you want to pick

[plucky flax]

Yeah that's the way.

Curios on all classes are preference.

[untold niche]

i think got some exception like martyr zealot

[halcyon gust]

Well...Don't run than more than 1 +1 wound though

[rich spindle]

Are you saying i have to improve at the game itself?????

[untold niche]

3x wound and 3x hp perk

[halcyon gust]

Unless you're a Marty Zealot

[plucky flax]

Game is easy if you play op builds.

Like surge staff creeping flames spam.

[untold niche]

the next part is lying to yourself these builds are intended as base and you are indeed an excellent player

[rich spindle]

Whats creeping flames

[halcyon gust]

A build is only as strong as the user

[untold niche]

totally not me 🐭

[plucky flax]

OP build imo is combination of its power and ease of use.

Blaze trauma is super strong but it's harder(?) to play.

While surge has auto aim so yeah. Just right click left click.

[rich spindle]

Oh the vs flames

[untold niche]

ya

just play void like me

[plucky flax]

Void you still need to aim.

[untold niche]

then watch as your 5 stats go yellow

[plucky flax]

So that's automatically harder than surge and purga.

[untold niche]

when i go pee i also aim
its just practice

tap head

[plucky flax]

Me I do it no hands.

Jesus takes the wheel.

[untold niche]

thats why you are blaze trauma player
everyone beside you stumble from the AOE

from the splash

[rich spindle]

VS flames are basically useless on scab only missions right. In the meat grinder full 100% VS did nothing to bulwarks maulers crushers

[untold niche]

try it with tier 4 flak

on a weapon

and like 80% peril

so equip a weapon with tier 4 +flak perk

go to 80% peril

then moan at the zombies

[rich spindle]

Oh i never thiught thatd apply

[plucky flax]

Wut it's super op in scab only in combination with blaze trauma.

[untold niche]

psyker is OP in scab only because no ammo needed

i mean other than gunker ofc

agent

[rich spindle]

I think brittleness trauma is goated

[untold niche]

imagine psyker get to infuse bullet

no ammo needed

how cool will that be

[untold niche]

blaze trauma better

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is better against scab only even.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[rich spindle]

I gotta unlock that then

[plucky flax]

Solo meme.

[rich spindle]

Does it require the + crit blessingn too

[untold niche]

like you get to infuse one clip of mag, doesn't cost ammo, applies soul blaze

:OOOO

[plucky flax]

Yes.

Warp nexus + blazing spirits (tier 3 only)

[rich spindle]

Ive only tried that on voidstrike

[plucky flax]

I think on voidstrike it's meme.

[rich spindle]

Lol

[plucky flax]

On trauma it's spicy meme.

[rich spindle]

Ya i think voidstrike is too slow for crit procs

[hollow current]

me slamming the shit out of my desk every time this happens.

[untold niche]

mutie tech: stand clsoe to wall then they will throw you

no slam

[untold niche]

i think thats fine already
have you ever gotten 1 flame and 1 trapper hidden behind minigun ogryn

[rich spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/computer-pc-angry-german-kids-gif-12487818

[untold niche]

i chatise to the minigun ogryn then next second im under arrest and grilled literally.

[hollow current]

Instead of a ogryn gunner it's a bulkwar, yeah.

Multiple bulwarks are the hardest thing for me to deal with.

[untold niche]

if bulwark usually just trapper, no flamer

[untold niche]

how come, on psyker

[hollow current]

I can handle maybe up to 3? Any more than that and I just run.

[untold niche]

wat secondary you using?

[rich spindle]

Hidden Trapper net getting you through a wall of poxwalkers

[hollow current]

My Gunker build is just weak against them.

Laspistol, Assail, SG.

[untold niche]

i tot assail pierce bulwark

[hollow current]

It's hard to do when there's chaff, elites and specials running around.

That's the context where I just run to the nearest barrel instead of fighting them.

[untold niche]

play void/trauma, handle everything

trauma is AOE, void is straight line

[rich spindle]

3 bulwarks on you as psyker is run away time unless i hve trauma

[untold niche]

not sure if trauma can 1 tap crushers, agent can it?

[hollow current]

Las pistol damage on bosses so good tho.

[hollow current]

Don't think so, but it can also bully them until theyre dead

[untold niche]

boss damage is overrated

[rich spindle]

I think it comes in clutch when you need to carry a bad team

But I usually just brainburst all bosses

[hollow current]

If it's plague ogryn I try to dance with it. I shoot the shit out of spawns and beasts of nurgles.

[plucky flax]

No chance.

[untold niche]

the bad team not going to die to boss, the bad team going to all hit the boss then you struggle to get the 3x flamer 3x rager off them while the 2x crusher breathing down you, all within the room full of zombies

thats why i never bothered about boss damage

[untold niche]

2 hit threshold? or 3 hit

[plucky flax]

Hrm with luck I'd say possibly to do 2. Brittleness + 25% carapace and high warp charges high peril + crit.

[untold niche]

if no crit 3 hit?

[hollow current]

I had this happen the other day. All 3 players went to fight the boss. It found its way to me and I ended up locking it down in place while two went down and the other came to me.

It was just amusing.

[plucky flax]

Yeah I think with brittleness build possible to do 3 no crit.

But it's bad cos blaze is so much better.

[untold niche]

but wat about blaze trauma

how many hit

4 hit?

[plucky flax]

With crit can do 3.

[untold niche]

o

so 3-4

if crit all the way, still 3?

or 2 enuf

[rich spindle]

I dont get why blaze is better. Isnt 3 stacks of soulblaze pretty weak?

[plucky flax]

Still 3.

[untold niche]

cause u can make it spread

then it compound

[plucky flax]

3 stacks is weak but it's capped at 6. On top of that combustion and creeping flames have 30+ max stacks cap.

And it does a huge aoe of soulblaze.

[untold niche]

actually agent

what enemy other than boss

the blaze trauma help you kill faster compared to brittleness trauma

[plucky flax]

I actually never played the bad brittleness build so idk.

[untold niche]

cause if brittleness less threshold on crusher, maybe brittleness better IF you don't run wilfire
wilfire no cap right

[plucky flax]

There is cap with wildfire.

[untold niche]

im assuming wilffire help kill abit of zombie

[plucky flax]

It's 4 stacks.

[untold niche]

maybe i should try brittleness trauma

[untold niche]

why you thin bad again

think

[plucky flax]

It's not useful for majority of targets. Only for super tanky stuff like ogryns and monsters.

Say it's an elite that you would 2 shots anyway. Then it's wasted.

All chaffs die in 1 blast of trauma.

So that blessing is wasted against 50% of targets.

[untold niche]

then what blaze help with
because if you god roll trauma staff, elites are still going to die within like 2 hits right

[plucky flax]

It helps kill things more because massive aoe soulblaze.

Wut kind of question?

[untold niche]

maybe cause its 3am, just humour me :(

[upper sun]

would a full charge one tap some?

[plucky flax]

My trauma can 1 shot shotgunners and flak gunner (if crit).

[untold niche]

but thats not because of the blaze right, or it is

[plucky flax]

No.

Blaze helps kill chaffs in massive horde.

You aim at the elites like ogryns, maulers, ragers.

And everything around it die to burn.

[untold niche]

Ah so its mainly the zombies

[dim parrot]

can u play good with blaze trauma when your only other blaze talent is pc?

[plucky flax]

You need creeping flames.

[untold niche]

think you only need PC and vs creep

wildfire optional right

[dim parrot]

I despise the thought of playing venting again

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is must if you're based.

It won't feel good without creeping flames because of 6 stacks max cap.

[untold niche]

wai

very fun

[dim parrot]

boring in comparison to sg

[untold niche]

oh

ya

i like the ms speed node

zoom

[dim parrot]

also I don't like the skilltree way to it

[rich spindle]

Wildfire is must to see the whole screen on fire

[untold niche]

whats the hard cap for soulblaze again?

[dim parrot]

meaning blaze trauma and me can never really hang and be bros

[plucky flax]

33

[mighty cipher]

I think it’s 3133. That’s the same limit on bleed and others.

[pine carbon]

Wildfire pails in comparison to the other two soulblaze talents but if you're doing a full fire support you may as well pick it up along the way

[plucky flax]

It'll never get to like 30 normally.

Unless a lot of venting from multiple psykers.

[untold niche]

wait so your zombos will die from the trauma blaze fire?
Or mainly its just to make them die slightly faster after getting VS-ed

[mighty cipher]

The highest a single player can reasonably get is 24-25. But at that point whatever is on fire will probably just explode on the next tick.

[untold niche]

PC is like 6 stacks

3 PC procs is 18

[plucky flax]

Yeah with purga you can easily do 21 or 22 against monster.

[mighty cipher]

3. They had to cut it in half cause 6 was game breaking.

[plucky flax]

It does a lot of damage that way.

[untold niche]

zombies need 30 stacks of soulblaze to die right.

[plucky flax]

Wut

[rich spindle]

Nah

[mighty cipher]

6 kills all lesser enemies. It’s a damage over time effect.

[plucky flax]

Bro do you know how much damage is 30 stacks

Are you on drugs?

[pine carbon]

im sure that was a typo

[untold niche]

wait, all i remember is it takes 83.3% peril creeping flames to kill zombo horde

or at least kill them in a reasonable amoutn of time

[mighty cipher]

That percentage is to get all 6 stacks from venting.

[untold niche]

oh i misunderstood this and creeping flames do 30 stacks of soulblaze
i was wondering how come the blaze math isn't mathing

[untold niche]

ah thanks dood

sorry man

no angery

agent for sure taking some water to cool himself off with whatever i just typed 🐭