psyker-class

[untold niche]

Use the website

[cinder moon]

nexus+surge is peak

[untold niche]

Darktide builder google that @mental grail

[mental grail]

ok

[untold niche]

I think nexus surge only good for oe shot crusher. Everything else nexus flurry does better

[cinder moon]

hearing it proc multiple times in big hordes is super satisfying

[torpid girder]

voidstrike is super good but i like using trauma :)

[cinder moon]

trauma staff long range shots be making you look at the ceiling though

[torpid girder]

i wish the trauma wasn't so weird to use on stairs tho

[untold niche]

apparnetly its an invisible projeactile

that lobs

so t hink of it you are firing invisible grenade launcher

[urban sandal]

if you aim in the middle of a stair case using trauma you can keep the aoe on a support beam under the stairs

[untold niche]

unless you mean the thing clips below the stairs

[torpid girder]

yea it's like buggy on the stairs sometimes and sometimes just doesn't hit enemies

[untold niche]

oso how u enjoyijg psyker now

[spice veldt]

like a grenade launcher with an instant projectile travel time and infinitesimally small projectile

and doesn't land on enemies

[untold niche]

i remember you were asking forh elp and turn out its buiild problem @torpid girder

o hshit

[spice veldt]

F

[torpid girder]

i've been really loving psyker ever since I tried out the soulblaze trauma build! I'm glad I finally found one that clicked for me

it ended up becoming like one of my strongest builds
it's the only one i've gotten above 1m damage besides my ogryn

[untold niche]

im expectying agent to come in right now.

[torpid girder]

even like my crusher revo zealot and plasma voc vet usually get like 800k

[untold niche]

"nerf blaze trauma pls"

woah i never get above 500k on my cruisher revo zealot iirc

[torpid girder]

i regret that trauma was the last staff I tried out
it's cuz i remember it being realllly bad when I was first levelling my psyker

oh crusher is SOOO amazing when you learn its combos, especially abusing shove attack

[urban sandal]

definitely the most useful staff

[torpid girder]

shove attack is just an insanely versatile move and it can chain into both singletarget and hordeclear combos

[untold niche]

told u dood psyker build dependent
now try void oso :3

[torpid girder]

i'll try it once i get a good oneee 💞

[untold niche]

what horde cler combo freom sa?
i know sa into heavy does a sweep
but from then on just alternate light and heavy?

[urban sandal]

I use push attack > heavy> light > light and repeat

[torpid girder]

Ya u can just shove attack > heavy and then light > heavy but you can literally just spam shove attack into heavy repeatedly and it does the job just as well

[untold niche]

yuh but stamina gone mistur

[torpid girder]

that's why u occasionally throw in a light > heavy and all of a sudden u can do 3 more shove attacks >:)

[urban sandal]

it regens by the time you do another push attack

[torpid girder]

u can also chain shove attack into light to immediately start the singletarget combo

[untold niche]

no it doesn't for me at least ;-;

[urban sandal]

stam regen on curios and stop spamming it

[untold niche]

oh yeah light int oheavy right

[torpid girder]

u can see in this clip i just basically spam shove attack whenever I can since it's good for everything

[mental grail]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b6d1622-9783-45ba-a053-45ca3af70bd5/ems-terrible-voidsmite-build?utm_medium=website&utm_source=gameslantern&utm_campaign=share_button

Gaze upon it and despair

[untold niche]

oh boi
give me 5 min

[mental grail]

good luck

[untold niche]

build wise this is how i would improve your build.
But personally thats why i don't run warp charges and run dd
more damage for less points
With 4x WC iirc theres some threshold you can't hit compared to max stacks DD

run one 2/3x stamina and two toughness
Then for the perk if you are not grinding curios:
3x toughness (either flat or regen)
3x your choice, i run CDR. (i would recommend gunner tho but really up to you)

you should go see DD thresholds in psk with the creature spawner
to get it to proc, disable invisibility ( no see NOT no die)

[mental grail]

Will do, gonna start grinding for mats immediately

[untold niche]

@mental grail

[mental grail]

Is slaughterer that much better? I keep getting conflicting answers

[untold niche]

if you still want to run warp charge
I would consider running flurry nexus
Go see, if your thresholds change.
To do this download the mod loadout config
allow you to change your weapon stats and blesisngs and curios basically whatevr in psyk

[untold niche]

again, try it yourself in psk with loadout config
it changes thresholds for me on bruiser

i think you can run bloodthristy too but im not siure

if threshold changes

[mental grail]

I'll test in psk

[untold niche]

also would encourage you to try dd seriously tho

give it like a week - 2 weeks and then you will see that you can get used to it very easily

[torpid girder]

wtf i loaded into a lost game and the scoreboard is laughing at me 😭

[mental grail]

do you have a dd build?

[untold niche]

yuh\

1 sec

blaze venting shriek can kill zombies btw

and VS can go thru wall

#psyker-class message

general guide
i think for assail you only need the top node iirc instead of both
yellow is majority agreed / debatable (given build situation/context)

pink is just ":if you go there"
so take pink as any other red / green really

[plucky flax]

Wow veri pro Mr average.

[untold niche]

no pro. all these is stuff you guys told me.
and mr josho doesn't even reply me anymore
bik sad

[near wyvern]

This is the Assail one

[coral cave]

why venting shriek?

just for the blaze aoe?

peril is not really an issue with assail in my opinion

esp if u take the 30% quel speed

[potent echo]

Venting is dps, CC, safety all rolled up into one

It's no contest in terms of solo effectiveness

[untold niche]

why mm?

wait so this is void+ assail rite

am not dumb dumb rite

[untold niche]

i take vs just for the blaze aoe ye

horde die

veri gud

[hollow current]

Holy giga chad psyker gamer I ran into

Rushed ahead to get all the kills
Never picked up a resource
Always went straight to the next section/elevator
Gets mad when other players kill stuff along the way
Warps himself with the trauma staff when an opportuninty for big damage arrives
Doesn't help with the objectives
Complains that 21 minutes in a nurgle auric maelstrom random group is too long.

[gloomy magnet]

zealot did that also

[quartz barn]

So basically their playstyle revolves around padding stats, but also rushing

???

[near wyvern]

Have to get it to access creeping flames from assails

This is CIAG

[near wyvern]

Creeping flames is an excellent on demand room clear

[near wyvern]

I agree, on maelstroms with enhanced blitz this build actually performs a bit worse since it's hard to get peril to stay high enough

[untold niche]

this one ( don't need it to go over to mid aura)

oh cause its ciag

[untold niche]

heh heh dis me 🐭
though i think i "rush" to secure a good position

[rigid sky]

Vote kick exists for a reason :)

If they're gonna act like it's a solo game then they can go play with themselves.

[sullen sphinx]

How do you guys manage to rush ahead? Even if I'm trying I always end up moping hordes and specialists behind the group

[lyric burrow]

assuming your the only one running ahead then you kinda just figure out what you can ignore and what you actually need to kill

but also running ahead solo probably isnt the play

even if you confident in not dying pubs tend to be fairly slow so they will likely just get caught behind by something

[potent echo]

I have never had vote kick go off

[lyric burrow]

as for not mopping stuff behind up its kinda just being able to blitz through enemites with your loadout and whatnot, but people helping you will also speed it up obv

ive vote kicked one time

[potent echo]

I think most people just click it away

[lyric burrow]

because someone was just spam pinging

[rigid sky]

My girlfriend was playing with me so that's 2 votes :)

[spice veldt]

my pub teammates like to fight the horde behind so i just go ahead

[lyric burrow]

yeah pubs tend to get stuck on hordes

running ahead will hopefully get them to stop dragging their feet but its not a fool proof plan

sometimes ill just help clear it for the sake of not waiting for the guy doing illisi lights to clear it

[rigid sky]

There's a difference between making pace and being in the mid-event on excise vault in 3 minutes

by abusing knife/shroudfield

and also eating all the medicae on the way

on heresy

[lyric burrow]

oh yeah im not referring to speedrunning

just like pace for under 20 minute missions or so

[rigid sky]

Pace is important, but totally disregarding your team is something else lol

[lyric burrow]

full speedrunning in a pub is p cringe

[sullen sphinx]

Sometimes ignoring hordes behind can be deadly

[spice veldt]

though my teammates are handling it so it's fine

it doesn't take a full team of 4 to handle a pure horde

and if you can't handle it alone, you should just move ahead and let somebody else who can handle it solo

it's very annoying to have teammates who simply follow you even if you're just exploring sidepaths
should just fill in the role that your teammates aren't doing

if i'm looting, you better be pushing

[lyric burrow]

yeah hordes dont need to be a team effort

and a horde also isnt really a danger either so ideally you dont need to worry about someone dying to one

[potent echo]

That teammate that double checks your homework after you merge from the sidepath

[lyric burrow]

unless they get trappered or something but if the situation is bad enough they get trappered fighting a horde then someone probably didnt do their job

[sullen sphinx]

I don't mind soloing hordes, it's funny to blast them with Trauma. I just wish people would at least clean ranged stuff on their way so they don't shoot me at the back

[lyric burrow]

or they just messed up

yeah pubs tend to not really split up roles well

ideally it happens naturally but people just get caught up in w/e

which likely forces you to cover multiple roles awkwardly

[potent echo]

I just kill the back specials mainly, pubs usually just rush forward

[lyric burrow]

damn really

my pubs are determined to kill everything in a room before leaving

[spice veldt]

it's a mix of both for me, though i usually loot stuff so i'm playing the catch up game sometimes

[lyric burrow]

yeah you loot much harder than i do

i used to loot but you both spoiled me and i also cant be bothered now

esp if i have people actually willing to push up

i also dont trust people to not die while i am looting

[tired estuary]

no thanks i have to increase my loot score for the scoreboard

[spice veldt]

i have some faith that it'll take some time for all 3 teammates to die

or at least 1 will survive if bad things happen

[lyric burrow]

fair

i do trust not all 3 to die

[sullen sphinx]

I confess, I usually follow a person if they are looting, but only because they end up in a net or a dog if left alone

[tired estuary]

leaving people on their own is also how you find out if they can do their job on a basic level or not

Gathering Intel

[lyric burrow]

yeah if someone is looting i do kinda hope they can not die to a disabler

[sullen sphinx]

But it happens, so not taking any chances unless there are threats to deal with

[potent echo]

Left a smite trauma psyker alone for awhile, things did not turn out well

[lyric burrow]

oh yeah

[sullen sphinx]

How? Smite Trauma can solo hordes

[lyric burrow]

smite psykers 99% of the time cannot handle like 2 poxwalkers

[potent echo]

If there's more than 15 you can't stun everything

[tired estuary]

a lot of them also just don't run scream with smite and idgi

[potent echo]

Shield

[lyric burrow]

tbh most smite psykers i get dont even use their other weapons they just use smite

[tired estuary]

great so they can regen their toughness while they're busy not killing anything

[lyric burrow]

and let someone else deal with stuff

[potent echo]

Probably suffering the same symptoms but diagnosed the wrong disease

"why am I dying to ranged? Must be because I'm not running shield"

[tired estuary]

if only they could use the psychic gamer word and delete all the ranged units

[sullen sphinx]

Locking mobs down is useful only if need to get people out, I usually use it to quickly push pack of gunners before rushing in

[tired estuary]

have you considered holding it on spread out hordes so that it takes way longer for melee to clear than if they were clumped up

[potent echo]

Venting is a crutch skill for noobs who overload, gamers spam smite

[sullen sphinx]

Bubble forever

[tired estuary]

real gamers clear maelstrom with absolute minimum dmg dealt

[sullen sphinx]

Pacifist%

But yea, Smite has a great utility, but spamming it is a bad idea

[torpid girder]

butbutbut but fire damage 💔

[potent echo]

I'm being obtuse, but I've seen people make that argument before, but I assume that's because they didn't play before patch 13

[torpid girder]

ohhhh makes sense :)

[rigid sky]

A lot of people just really overrate the bubble

and underrate creeping flames

Bubble's great too but I don't want more than one of them on a team - while I'd happily have 4 VoCs or 2 "look at my fancy symbol"s

but I'd be delighted having 4 shrieks on a team

[tired estuary]

I mostly don't care what ult a psyker runs as long as they actually know how to kill shit and melee if necessary

I think multiple shrieks can kind of step on each other's toes but its w/e

bubble is kinda like invis vet in that most weak players use it really selfishly/brainlessly and die anyways

[urban sandal]

here I am using unmodified shriek

[tired estuary]

its okay bae I'm sure the points you saved are going ot a noble cause

[dim parrot]

pls dont say warp charges

[thorn tapir]

bubble is really good as an oh shit button against ranged enemies, which psyker isnt really too bad at dealing with in most set ups...

the toughness regen is nice but doesnt do anything if you dont get hit anyway

[gusty furnace]

using shriek as a combat tool

using shriek to edge peril 💪

[thorn tapir]

why not both?

[gusty furnace]

usually because most things are dead by the time I hit 100% peril

[urban sandal]

this is my tree for ds4/trauma

[mossy slate]

Is the warp bee build still viable?

[vestal fulcrum]

The what now? What is the build you have in mind?

[rigid sky]

Assail? There isn't really "one" assail build, but as a blitz it's still very strong (arguably the best apart from losing access to psychinetic aura)

[mossy slate]

The psyker build where the grenade is like those warp spikes or wasps you throw that can target several enemies at once

[vestal fulcrum]

Krags guessed it right then, I suppose

The blitz is called Assail

It’s still a very good blitz

Unless there is a change that literally makes it have 0 cleave, it will remain strong

[rigid sky]

It's extra spicy with Disrupt Destiny

And extra extra spicy in a gun build with DD and Scrier's Gaze

[mossy slate]

Ah got cha

I just love using it

[rigid sky]

Woe, bees upon you

[dim parrot]

warp charges are way too expensive

bees lol

[sullen sphinx]

Praise the Warp Charges

[upper sun]

man they relly need to merge some of the warp charge talents

idc if it would be too op or useless

[radiant frigate]

purge the warp charges

requiring a literal third of your talent points

so many tax nodes

agony

[worn beacon]

I do like zero thought buffs

[sullen sphinx]

Just keep 6 charges without thinking

[worn beacon]

Just be lighting poxwalker horde on fire and suddenly I am stronger

[upper sun]

do not look at vet tree

[worn beacon]

I am a vet main 😬

[upper sun]

+25% damage +15% +10% +5%

while ours is like +3% if you're a good boy 🙂

[vestal fulcrum]

There’s nothing wrong with Vets having the best thought-out skill tree in the entire game

[worn beacon]

There's plasmagun that is literally everything you want from a gun

[vestal fulcrum]

You make actual choices there

[upper sun]

go down pick everything down

[worn beacon]

Damage - check
Cleave - check
Armor piercing - check
Shit ton of ammo - check
Huge hitbox - check

[upper sun]

and long shot

thats it

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not lmao

There’s plenty of good skills you can choose to take, or take some other ones instead (equally good or luxury)

[upper sun]

remove channeled something the stamina drain one if you are using a plasma gun

[worn beacon]

Uncanny how plasmagun gets awar wjth all of that

[worn beacon]

The one that drains your stamina in ADS?

It didn't work with plasma in the first place

[upper sun]

left upper middle ish

yeah its good with other stuff

[worn beacon]

Deadshot aka "I don't want my lasgun ammo go down"

[radiant frigate]

not too fond of plasma

cumbersome to use

[worn beacon]

Me neither tbf

[rigid sky]

I despise the veteran trees lol

All those damage buffs but conditional, and too many talents in general

The spreadsheet class

[radiant frigate]

i think vet tree is okay

[worn beacon]

When I play veteran I want to shoot everyone

[upper sun]

man nothing is conditional

[rigid sky]

Makes me too anxious to play it outside of already curated builds

[worn beacon]

Plasma and revolver aren't really cut out for that

[rigid sky]

Conditional on what target you shoot I mean

[radiant frigate]

when i play vet I'm here to shank heretics with a power sword

[worn beacon]

Grab kantrael Ia and suddenly (almost) everything dies in one headshot with exec stance

[rigid sky]

Like gun A needs elite damage or it misses breakpoints by 1% and if you don't take it you're some kind of fucking idiot and your team will judge you for it

[upper sun]

yeah well this where you use the forbidden vet build (binding tag to attack)

i really wanna try it but i dont wanna ping my teammates into kicking me

[rigid sky]

But if you take it on gun B you're also stupid because of course you don't need it on that gun you fucking idiot

(My mental health has funny interactions with games for me)

[worn beacon]

There's Marksman's focus

Stand behind, click heads

[radiant frigate]

simply run whatever you like and call it a day

[rigid sky]

I know it's just the voices in my head fucking with me

[worn beacon]

I exclusively run lasguns on vet and I love every single one except recon

[rigid sky]

But I played too much LoL back in the day

[radiant frigate]

my condolences

[rigid sky]

It leaves scars in your brain

[upper sun]

true

[worn beacon]

Something about Helbore, Kantrael and Laspistol just click with me

[radiant frigate]

i left before i was permanently scarred

[worn beacon]

I never played LoL

[radiant frigate]

good

[upper sun]

kant is the semi auto tight?

[radiant frigate]

yes

[worn beacon]

Ye

[upper sun]

yeah its good

[worn beacon]

Accatran is recon full auto

[upper sun]

helbore is really good too but i cant use it for shit

[radiant frigate]

accatrash

[worn beacon]

Heard it's nice with fire stacks on crit but I never got hang of it

[rigid sky]

It's a combination of having an incredible burden of knowledge and an incredibly shitty community, and not being able to walk away from a game when people get toxic and your social anxiety gets triggered

LoL is like weaponised to destroy your mental health

[worn beacon]

Let me guess, shit sight?

[rigid sky]

Couldn't be designed to do that better

[radiant frigate]

personally hate helbore

5 year long draw time

[rigid sky]

Doesn't matter since it's also your melee

[worn beacon]

Ideally you don't even need to switch off helbore

[upper sun]

nah i just dont hold shots well and im really used to switching melee a lot

[rigid sky]

Press V to win :)

[worn beacon]

It's your ranged and melee

[upper sun]

but what if you need your shovel for a crusher

[upper sun]

how does push to talk help?

[worn beacon]

Charged shots

[rigid sky]

Ping it

[rigid sky]

Isn't V your special attack?

[upper sun]

no its alt

[radiant frigate]

sorry but I'm not horde clearing with a bayonet when i have a power sword

[worn beacon]

Mouse 5 for me

[upper sun]

I love the mark 3 shovel too much to use any other melee weapon

[worn beacon]

I use 3 different melees for my 3 vet builds

Power sword, chainsword and tactical axe

Axe for when I really need to kill something a helbore can't

[upper sun]

finally

something useful in the store

AAAAAAAAA i have to wait for geforce now to update 😢

[potent echo]

patch...?

[worn beacon]

Nuh uh

Hotfix

[upper sun]

two nano fixes

[mighty cipher]

The hell can’t a Helbore kill?

[vestal fulcrum]

Crushers and Maulers are an issue

Unless you shoot them repeatedly

[mighty cipher]

”Oh no! I have to shoot this thing TWICE instead of only once!”

Are you using the Hel, Hell, or Helll bore?

With enough MF stacks, the Helllbore can 1-tap crusher on crit.

[vestal fulcrum]

Helbro

It’s a bro you can rely on

[mighty cipher]

Hel yeah

[vestal fulcrum]

But you can’t really bayo a Mauler or a Crusher

[mighty cipher]

I mean….. what did you expect?

[vestal fulcrum]

I expected taking a melee that may help with that, but which might even do it quicker than shooting the bad boys

[quartz barn]

Just use void and onehit them anyway

[vestal fulcrum]

But we’re not talking typing about Psyker even

[sullen sphinx]

Imagine typing about Psykers here, so weird

[vestal fulcrum]

People type in #theorycrafting about Rogue Trader, so it’s no like this matters greatly

[mossy slate]

Best staff and melee weapon for leveling psyker?

[upper sun]

just use whatever you get from emperors gifts

[vestal fulcrum]

Your best staff for levelling is Assail

[mossy slate]

Kek

[upper sun]

nah its true

[vestal fulcrum]

And melee doesn’t really matter, but DS4, or FS4/5 are good weapons overall

[sullen sphinx]

Main issue that Assail is so good you won't learn much

[mossy slate]

but its fun

[upper sun]

yeah you wont even bother learning combos for clearing hoards

[vestal fulcrum]

FS - Force sword (Deimos and Illisi respectively for 4/5)
DS - duelling sword (Mark 4)

[upper sun]

not that its an issue with illisi

CLICKCLICKLCICLICKLICLICK

[sullen sphinx]

Or be a chad and facetank hordes with your staff

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is a good levelling staff tbh

it's not like you need the full 76% burn stat for malice

and you can get by with the cloud radius not being so high

and the other stats are not so important

[hollow current]

It's okay, I took pleasure in salting his damage at every chance I could get once I figured out what was going on.

[quartz barn]

Staffs are pretty underwhelming during levelling due to bad stats tho

[rigid sky]

tbh most weapons are. I think purge (and maybe surge) are the ones which are least bothered by that though

I think voidstrike and trauma are much worse affected by poor levelling stats

[quartz barn]

Hell purg still feels underwhelming later, but now the funny whoosh suddenly does big dmg number

[mighty cipher]

Surge sucks HARD nut when leveling

[sullen sphinx]

I'm not sure if Trauma is even usable with low stats

[rigid sky]

ah, really? What's the problem with it?

I only levelled in the pre-13 days

when it was the CC stick

and none of the stats on it really mattered

[mighty cipher]

You ever not oneshot a bomber before?

[rigid sky]

oh gods, even on malice?

that does indeed sound like a big sad.

[mighty cipher]

Not on malice, but Jesus Christ my soul dies a little every time it happens

[quartz barn]

Mfw i levelled psyk during the beta and didnt see a staff until lvl 23 because the emporium wasnt open yet

Had to rely on mission completion gear alone back then....

And those were much less frequent too

[rigid sky]

The emperor has a gift for you!

looks inside

accatran recon lasgun mk II

joins the scabs

[upper sun]

360 RATING
everything is 80 except damage

[hollow current]

these are the best. when you roll a 60 on the damage or stopping power.

[rigid sky]

and then you get a purgatus where damage is the only 80

the weapon shops and hadron are agents of tzeentch

[mighty cipher]

Tzeentch, my birdy beloved,
Please get this TILF to stop putting speed loader as the IV blessing. It’s supposed to be random and this is the THIRD TIME IN A ROW you’ve done this.

[hollow current]

It really does feel like some blessings decide to pop up in groups and it's maddening.

[rigid sky]

I remember when I got my first blazing spirit trauma to show up

[mighty cipher]

On my console account I spent 10k pasteel on shovels and got the exact same blessing combination, same blessings AND order, literally 3 times in a row.

[rigid sky]

and my second, third, fourth and fifth

because it was 5 traumas in a fucking row

also power cycler IV only ever shows up when I don't have the melkbux to buy it and I don't have the time or capacity to farm them

[heady perch]

melk hates me

[vestal fulcrum]

ar least it has Nexus 4 for potential recovery

[upper sun]

congradualtions now you have nexus 4

[heady perch]

50% damage

shaking and crying

glad i got 4 at least

[upper sun]

you need the burn still

[vestal fulcrum]

Damage doesn’t really matter all too much on Purgatus, that Burn is the sadder part

[heady perch]

my current purgatus has 76% burn

[upper sun]

dont feel too bad this is my brick counter so far

[heady perch]

:3

[heady perch]

oh man if i kept log of how much trash i got i would be sobbing rn

[rigid sky]

Huh, just took my purgatus out for the first time in a while

mankar wasn't kidding when he goes on about how powerful it is

[upper sun]

its really good

[rigid sky]

also forgot how good my purgatus is

[upper sun]

i got frenzied killer with it

post it

[rigid sky]

54 damage, 80 burn, 80 cloud, 77 warp res, 79 quell speed, 5% crit, 20% flak, nexus III, flurry IV

my snipping tool isn't working

[upper sun]

nice

[rigid sky]

the 6 warp charges version makes a big difference though

shriek more or less on demand

[upper sun]

i do warp bubble

[rigid sky]

I like shriek with it a lot, since shriek + the soulblaze warp charges talent synergise really well

I wouldn't use bubble with warp charges tbh

it's a sometimes food

while shriek is dps

I normally go EP if I use bubble

[sullen sphinx]

Yea, but when you need bubble it can save your run

[upper sun]

eh i dunno feels like nice utility

if i drop bubble i feel like i have to drop executor for deflector

[rigid sky]

I have deflector :)

[sullen sphinx]

It's mostly when you're overwhelmed by 10+ flamers, bombers and trappers

[rigid sky]

I use bubble only on trauma atm

[rigid sky]

tbh on purgatus, I just shriek at them

and then they die

the bubble helps more on distant gunners and snipers imo

[upper sun]

worst part about using purge everytime we get cutched im always the first guy to be revived so now its on me

[rigid sky]

(and obviously it's nice to trivialise BoN with it)

Key thing is, Inner Tranquility is 100% a trap node

if you run shriek

you need your peril to be able to run hot

if you can't push to 85 in the blink of an eye it's kinda shit

essence harvest on the other hand is just really good

regardless of anything, provided you're genning warp charges

[sullen sphinx]

Yea, it's good just for passive upkeep and quick refill against hordes

[upper sun]

i also dropped empathetic evasion doesnt feel as useful without running like surge or void when you're not more of a front liner

[rigid sky]

Idk, I like it a lot

[sullen sphinx]

6 warp charges with max flurry on max resistance + charge speed Trauma will generate only 11% peril per full blast, so funny enough not that good for shriek

[rigid sky]

if you're using purgatus you're critting constantly

Warp flurry is like the only reason to give a shit about peril imo

apart from scrier's gaze

in which case why aren't you disrupting destiny

you coward.

[upper sun]

one with the warp is also a reason

[rigid sky]

you want warp to be in very quick flux

and to generally be doing anything with it in the high range

due to warp rider and other shit

[upper sun]

but yeah with surge i tend to be more in the front line so i only run it then

and running both toughness on peril gain and loss is kinda more useful to me so the point is better there

[rigid sky]

I'm happy being in the front if I'm purgatus tbh

if we don't have a proper frontline I work just fine

I love to live dangerously

Warp siphon builds are so point hungry though

[upper sun]

yeah i guess vent would be more useful if a crusher runs at you

[sullen sphinx]

Frontline with Trauma

[rigid sky]

It's less about the crusher tbh

more about the dogs and general masses

[sullen sphinx]

Just blast everything that comes to you

[rigid sky]

purgatus alone often won't kill things before they can try to bop you

ragers are another thing

[mossy slate]

Do people hate psykers that use Assial while leveling in sedition and Uprising ranked missions?

[rigid sky]

shriek is the ultimate safe pick for you

[rigid sky]

maybe but if they're playing sedition and uprising their opinions really don't matter

[upper sun]

if you get soulblaze on the dog it still leaves even if it hits you

[rigid sky]

Assail will auto-win

but so will, like, anything

it's just assail will get there first

[mossy slate]

even if they noobs who can't find a elevator after you put a waypoint?

[golden tartan]

Thats a different problem

[rigid sky]

at least you're actually killing stuff and not just running straight past all the enemies in shroudfield

[mossy slate]

i encountered that

[mossy slate]

Its fun to use assial you just got "Random BS go"

[upper sun]

the real difficulty rating is actually 2>1>4>3>5

[rigid sky]

tbh I wonder why difficulties 1 and 2 exist

[mossy slate]

Uprising is easier than Sidition?

[rigid sky]

Especially without the power cap that VT2 had

At least in VT2 the newbies wouldn't just get totally overwhelmed gearwise by the farming veterans

[upper sun]

better teammates

also dont play on mondays everyone is doing weeklies

[mossy slate]

true, with Siditon you get stuck with noobs...

[rigid sky]

but here, you can do sedition in full 550 bullshit gear

it's a shit experience for new players imo

[mossy slate]

and solo it while the noobs die?

[rigid sky]

They should put a power cap on you

[mossy slate]

lol

[rigid sky]

noobs won't even get a chance to die, that's the problem

[mossy slate]

true they have to learn the hard way that they Have to stick togeather

[rigid sky]

unless they wake up a daemonhost and then you can be sure that the 550 shitlords won't help them out

[upper sun]

no solo it yell at everyone for not following then get pounced on by a dog THEN leave

[rigid sky]

It's hard to stick together if you don't know the map yet

[upper sun]

still happens in auric games

[rigid sky]

and also sticking together 100% isn't always the right thing to do

[mossy slate]

truee

[rigid sky]

you want to clear sidepaths too for loot

[mossy slate]

[rigid sky]

It's best to go in either a 2-2 or a full 4 formation

[upper sun]

ye

[mossy slate]

true true

[rigid sky]

or 3-1 if you have a loner zealot (not a meme)

(but that zealot better be responsible about it)

(stay in the same room to fight etc)

[mossy slate]

gucci

[heady perch]

i just like blue flames

blue's my favourite colour :3

[near wyvern]

Oh you mean malefic momentum, sorry I thought you meant mind in motion.

Malefic momentum boosts assail and soulblaze damage by 20% after columnus goes brrrt or you melee a couple suckers.

That and warp rider and you are looking at +30-40% more damage on Assails and Soulblaze

[lapis violet]

siblings

[sullen sphinx]

Yellow grenade? sus

[lapis violet]

assail?

bug?

it's assail

[full haven]

is brain burster still not being used ?

[lapis violet]

only have 1 talent point rn. which do i pick?

[lapis violet]

usable if good setup

get this

[full haven]

Probs good for heavy melee mobs

[lapis violet]

and this

[full haven]

Oh I forgot about that one!

Loved it before the talent changes

[lapis violet]

good for crushers and maulers and if not using a surge, trauma or voidstrike staff (surge staff mostly cuz the other two take skill to deal with), monstrosities also

[rigid sky]

I love brain rupture for trauma tbh

but you need the improved speed talents and bubble for that particular constellation imo

[lapis violet]

speaking of, i need a trauma staff

gosh i hate bubble

is this optimal?

[rigid sky]

Is it the one which gives stacks on killing elites?

that's the one you want

[lapis violet]

(this is on purgation staff so horde clearing is ez)

left is 12.5 on kill, right is elite

[rigid sky]

because you mostly brain rupture elites anyway

take the right one

[lapis violet]

ooooh

perma rupture

good point

[rigid sky]

use a stack, gain a stack

[lapis violet]

do i want middle?

[rigid sky]

imo yes

but idk

works for me but not sure how worth the point it is

[vestal fulcrum]

I wouldn’t take it, unless you don’t have any more reliable toughness gain (and even then I think I would rather spend the point on one of top-most toughness replenishment nodes

[lapis violet]

i'm so doomed

[vestal fulcrum]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ryan-gosling-blade-runner-2049-blade-runner-darktide-when-you-find-me-gif-13647306158287826208

[lapis violet]

also. this is on my low lvl psyker. if i had to pick one, which one would i pick?

[rigid sky]

How about this

for blaze trauma with a deflector deimos

[vestal fulcrum]

Pick the one that grants +1 cleave

The CD one can wait

[rigid sky]

I think I found this build could take basically everything it wants and have points left over for luxury shit

if you just skip the whole left leg

[vestal fulcrum]

I would move points from Warp Expend and Anticipation to some place else

Maybe Puppet Master

Otherwise this is OK

[rigid sky]

Yeah, it's puppet master or those tbh

it's so easy to get everything you want

[sullen sphinx]

If you're going with BR maybe double wall will be better

[vestal fulcrum]

And the middle upgrade for EP is, as I mentioned, not really needed, but if you want to provide more support to your team, then more power to you

[rigid sky]

Double walls is not a gimmick I feel like playing with tbh

[sullen sphinx]

Fair enough, it's mostly for having more charges for KR buff

[full haven]

I need to start using staves again tbh, been a while

is deflector worth having btw?

[rigid sky]

It kinda depends on the individual person

some people don't get any use out of it

[vestal fulcrum]

If you know how to click dodge/slide, its value may vary

[rigid sky]

others it is a literal lifesaver

[full haven]

cheers

[rigid sky]

It's a great way to reduce mental load imo

[sullen sphinx]

Really depends, most damage from range I take is from surprise attacks so it's useless for me

[vestal fulcrum]

I don’t like allocating one blessing slot for an effect that very rarely is relevant to me

[rigid sky]

I barely use Deimos for anything apart from Mutants and blocking

and pushing

occasionally for cutting down things that are on their own and thus not really a threat

so I find I don't need much in the way of offensive blessings on it

Illisi I prefer going double offensive

since it's more of a main weapon

[plucky flax]

As a top 1% psyker I can recommend it.

[stark nova]

There is no Columnus infantry autogun mk 6

Wait I misread

Nvm

What does dumdum mean

[lapis violet]

power on close range hit

[stark nova]

Is that a perk or a blessing?

[lapis violet]

blessing

pretty common

[stark nova]

Is it that one or is there a better one?

[lapis violet]

different one

[stark nova]

Alright

[lapis violet]

but both of these are good actually

[stark nova]

Earning blessings is done through resetting the gun isn’t it

So basically when you prestige a gun in cod

[hollow current]

you gotta upgrade new guns and get lucky on the blessings, get them from melk's shop or get lucky with an emperor's gift that isn't worthless

once you get it tho, you get it forever on all characters.

[stark nova]

But you can earn blessings

Ngl I’m still getting characters to 30

[hollow current]

You can sacrifice a weapon to earn blessings, ye.

[stark nova]

Pain

Borga disapproves

[hollow current]

Just wait until you're hunting a specific blessing when the weapon has a dozen.

[stark nova]

I have 6K hours in Destiny 2. This game really is not that much of a grind

[silk vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/suffering-gif-13429271044533447139

[rigid sky]

Did somebody say Power Cycler IV?

[lapis violet]

surge

[sullen sphinx]

"A NeW MaRvEl HaS AwOkEn"

[untold niche]

i want a bow for vet.

[lapis violet]

any regiment known for bows of any kind?

[hushed shuttle]

"A Bombs been planted on our ammo supply"

[meager gust]

"I regularly stick nails under my toenails and kick walls, stepping on broken glass is really nothing"

[stark nova]

Basically

[full haven]

really enjoying burster!

Much more than the others anyway

[cinder moon]

i keep deflector on hand because 90% of veterans can't be bothered to actually shoot gunners when i need them to

too busy meleeing the guys i already killed with soulblaze

hearing constant backstab alerts while i'm trying to cast and the vet is just mindlessly blasting away at nobody useful

[hollow current]

I feel like in half my games I'm using assail to snipe the mess of shooters spread all over taking potshots while other members just ignore it.

[cinder moon]

my voidstrike/gunker build uses dueling sword because i kill all the shooters asap

in the last 6 months i think i've seen exactly one vet with executioner's stance and the node that marks shooters for teammates

[hollow current]

I see it maybe once a week or two.

[half kindle]

Anyone having trouble pushing bursters away with force sword after new patch? Seems to only work like half the time compared to pre patch. Could be server lag I guess also.

[hollow jolt]

Iirc you can only push them when they're jumping

Could be doing it too early? Though I doubt it

[half kindle]

Yeah maybe. I’ll keep any eye on it next time I play! Thanks.

[keen fjord]

Should I go wound upgrades or health for my psyker.

[upper sun]

upgrades?

[hollow current]

Curios he's talking about.

[keen fjord]

Curios

[hollow current]

If you're new to the game, a wound curio isn't a bad idea. Just one tho.

[half kindle]

I would at least have one extra wound minimum. But the rest I would say is largely dependent on your individual skill. If you have a habit of being downed pretty regularly I’d stack extra wounds (although if you running damnation it just can’t be helped going down sometimes).

[keen fjord]

That sounds good thank you. after maxing my ogryn and zealot, it felt weird being so squishy. I was just a little confused on what I should go for

[upper sun]

I have 1 toughness 1 health and one +3 stamina

[half kindle]

I myself have a habit of going down quite a bit lol. I usually have 2-3 wounds depending on what build I’m running.

[keen fjord]

Ya I go down a couple times too, I’ll probably go for a wound and do the rest with health

[plucky flax]

As you get more used to higher difficulty you can try replacing wound with more hp or toughness.

[keen fjord]

Ya that sounds good, thanks for the tip

[untold niche]

At higher difficulty, you able to go down one more time doesn't mean your team can revive you. Might as well make life easier and take toughness instead

[half kindle]

While I don’t disagree I find toughness virtually useless on damnation. Like 2 hits from an enemy, a weak enemy too, and your toughness is gone.

[untold niche]

Let's you go back to thresholds faster ig

Rather than give u another threshold

[half kindle]

That’s a fair point! Guess it’s more dependent on the individual playstyle/skill.

[rigid sky]

I think your regeneration is proportionate to your max too

[untold niche]

Yeah it is.

[rigid sky]

It's mostly resistance to ranged attacks

[spice veldt]

it's a higher buffer + greater benefit from %-regeneration talents

with the downside of attacks that deal >1x damage to toughness

[untold niche]

Even if I exploded all the time I still wouldn't take wound.

[spice veldt]

on the other hand, any DR that psyker gets pertains specifically to toughness

[half kindle]

Well, to each their own I guess!

[rigid sky]

I think the update to flames pushed the balance quite firmly in favour of toughness over health

[upper sun]

better option is to simply not explode

[cinder moon]

i ran no extra wound curios even before stimms, but health stimms make no wound pysker much more viable, especially when idiots pick up grims and don't consume them

[rigid sky]

and I think the introduction of health stims pushed the balance well away from +wound

but yeah you do die in one poxburster if some dumb shitbag picks up a grimoire

like not even downed

death

[cinder moon]

i pick up grims specifically to consume them

fuck your melk contract in damnation+

[upper sun]

ye

i have never seen anyone pick them up even in t4+

[cinder moon]

i've had idiots pick them up enough times in damnation

even after i request multiple times through text chat and voice for them to consume the grim, because those players are clueless enough they make the run even more difficult ignoring the grim's presence

[rigid sky]

Tbh if somebody does

I'm mostly like "fuck it, we ball"

but yeah

dying in one poxburster is good for the memes

[cinder moon]

if i can tell they're competent i usually don't care, but some players you just know are oblivious

[upper sun]

polite thing is to ask

[untold niche]

There's some where whole tram is close to dying but then we win somehow

I hate those the most lol

And they don't respond to you asking them to drop it

[cinder moon]

i do have a psyker build that's all wound curios, though, just for the memes so i can constantly perils of the warp

[untold niche]

Warp doesn't even do that much damage I feel. But I get its a meme build

My reasoning is that I rather have an easier time alice

[cinder moon]

i've killed one or two monstrosities with the final blast lol

[untold niche]

When I die just take the L

I don't think warp even kills a crusher?

Or mauler

[cinder moon]

it only does like 800 damage or something

[untold niche]

What's between mauler and gunner

Ah

[sinful tusk]

is the obscurus bad? i never see anyone use it

[brave fiber]

It’s just outclassed by the other two force swords

[sinful tusk]

got a good 379 one

hadron ruined it tho

[brave fiber]

Its a jack of all trades but equally as mediocre at everything it does

Not that it’s bad

Just outclassed

[rigid sky]

It's Deimos but worse

Worked fine before they made Damnation way spammier

[sinful tusk]

thats fair

[rigid sky]

You can't really afford to do the special stab now

[feral verge]

obscurus is a good weapon

however, like others have said, the other two force swords are just better

illisi has better horde clear, deimos has better single target

so there is no logical reason to bring obscurus, unless you just really really like it, or dont have a good deimos/illisi made

[sinful tusk]

that was the main reason

not having the others xd

[feral verge]

@sinful tusk

here are what a good deimos and illisi look like

uncanny strike is also a good option on illisi

dont put slaughterer on deimos, if you cant help it. slaughterer shines on horde clear weapons, which deimos is not.

assuming you're blessing hunting, uncanny strike should be your main goal

if you are wondering which sword to get first, ask yourself which staff you plan on using alot

purga (fire staff) is paired best with deimos

surge staff (lightning staff) is paired best with illisi

trauma staff is paired best with deimos

voidstrike is a tossup. i like to pair it with illisi, usually

[sinful tusk]

i like the deimos as well

tyvm good sibling

[feral verge]

deimos is my fav weapon in the game, tied with mk 12 chaxe

[sinful tusk]

ill be farming some plasteel for a while now 😭

[feral verge]

ideal deimos is what i posted pretty much. executor + uncanny strike

with maniac + unyielding/elite/carapace damage perks

maniac is a must for oneshotting muties easily

[sinful tusk]

gotcha

😵‍💫

[feral verge]

big tip: uncanny strike (and executor) will stack 4 times (out of 5) on a single light special attack

stab a guy in a head with the special attack, and boom you have instant 4 stacks of executor and uncanny

[sinful tusk]

didnt know that

do you think its intentional?

[feral verge]

it's because the special attack has 4 tics of damage

it isnt an instant tic of damage

it does the full damage over 4 tics

it's been in the game since the beginning, and they havent removed it yet, so

[sinful tusk]

the emperor wills it, it seems

🙏

[feral verge]

what's your fav staff

because i have advice for purga, if thats what you want to use

[rigid sky]

That's like asking somebody who their favourite child is

Not cool man(kar)

[sinful tusk]

it is

[feral verge]

not to me

i'd tell you purga or trauma

and dislike surge

[granite oyster]

I’m bout to surge

[rigid sky]

I love all my children equally.

I do not much care for Gob Surge.

[brave fiber]

list what weapons I don’t like than the weapons I like in this game

It’s easier to*

[faint gyro]

Hello fellow psykers.

[brave fiber]

wsg fellow schizo

[faint gyro]

I must ask

Does anyone use guns when they reach level 30

Or am I weird?

[rigid sky]

Gun psyker is an absolute blast

Some people get weird about it

But I love it

They gave us SG and DD for a reason sibling

Our raw DPS is basically unmatchable with it

Just take a good Finesse weapon like the Columnus Infantry Autogun or the Accatran Heavy Laspistol

Some people call us ammo hogs

But again, we have Illisi and Assail for a reason

[sinful tusk]

im just learning psyker now

but purge seems good rn

only have that one built anyways

[rigid sky]

Purgatus is a great starting point

[brave fiber]

Its like running pure melee vet, you’re ignoring some of psykers strong options but by no means at all is it weak, in fact with some builds it gets pretty damn strong

[halcyon gust]

Less likely to turn yourself into a grenade on legs with Purgatus

[sinful tusk]

those sound pretty cool tho

cant lie

[halcyon gust]

Popping your own brain isn't recommended sibling

[brave fiber]

hot take I think psyker should have talents that buff peril explosion

It would be extremely toxic but

I think it’s funny

[halcyon gust]

Such as a large amount of soul blaze stacks on any unlucky heretics caught near you when you go pop?

[hollow jolt]

Does warp rider count? UwU

[brave fiber]

That would be cool

Or just turn into a living ogryn bomb

But insta kills you lmao

[hollow jolt]

Don't tempt them they'll give it to the daemonhost

[halcyon gust]

Let a Ogryn grab a pysker and throw you into a group as a living grenade

I can imagine the Dreamer psyker going WEEEEE!

[sinful tusk]

suicide psyker

[halcyon gust]

I mean if you're backed into a corner with no other option.

[sinful tusk]

seems badass

[halcyon gust]

Might as well take as many heretics to hell with you as you can

[sinful tusk]

https://tenor.com/view/hell-squirrelflight-squirrelflight-goes-swimming-moonkitti-gif-22186422

[feral knoll]

Magic is fun. But my favorite spell to cast is bullet

Costs no peril

[sinful tusk]

does all of the blaze swords share blessings?

i assume so

[halcyon gust]

Yep

[sinful tusk]

big

[halcyon gust]

The staffs don't share blessings, but they thankfully don't have a big pool to pull from Which makes Suppressing barrage actually good in a sense as a T4 bless since you can use it better aim for a blessing you want in the T4 slot

[sinful tusk]

kek

[rigid sky]

Scrier's Gaze does though lol

[feral knoll]

Scrier’s I like because the voice lines tbh

New ones go hard

[rigid sky]

The voice lines and the raw damage it adds to assail and to gun :D

[feral knoll]

I love pointing a revolver at a crushers head. And a crit just one shots it (almost usually)

[next turret]

which is the staff that shoots charged balls?

[feral knoll]

Voidstrike

[sinful tusk]

well thanks for chatting siblings

im off to bed

😘

[rigid sky]

Prefer CIAG personally, rapid fire feels great

[feral knoll]

Assail kind of does what it does a bit without using ammo. So I like to spice it up

[frail harness]

I got a decent blazing trauma staff last night. Wondering if soulstealer is worth the point or if I should just get warp battery?

[ionic needle]

Drop wildfire instead

[feral knoll]

It might be silly. But if revolver had a blessing where it reloaded after unequippimg it for a bit I would be so happy tbh

[hollow jolt]

Vet's Weapon Specialist is very comfy for that

But otherwise yeah

[brave fiber]

wildfire on blaze trauma ain’t bad at all

[brave fiber]

Warp battery is really good tho so whatever you end up doing get it

[ionic needle]

Not bad at all isn't even close to how good soulstealer is though

And I'm pretty sure wildfire is pretty bad on all builds

[brave fiber]

depends how much you need it

I don’t use soulstealer because I don’t really need that much toughness regen but if you get chipped a lot sure go for it

what you take talent wise is ultimately different depending on your playstyle

[rigid sky]

Decent for Blaze trauma but only as like a 30th luxury point

I would only bother with it on an EP build

Keep Soulstealer tbh

Nightmare scenario is if you take a melee hit after losing toughness

You want as many things ticking toughness back up as possible

If you have to drop one, drop the one that grants toughness on peril gain

Soulstealer should grant much more toughness than that one

Oh you did drop it

Nvm lol

[brave fiber]

after a bunch of testing and feeling things out this is what I settled with

[frail harness]

Yeah I figured. Thanks

[frail harness]

Yeah I only run that talent on gunker

[rigid sky]

I have it on EP Blaze Trauma

Because tbh the build is so cheap you can take all the luxury nodes

Warp siphon is much much more expensive

If I don't take warp siphon I skip the entire left bottom part of the tree

[frail harness]

Yeah an extra two points compared to the other two 🤮

[rigid sky]

If I don't take Shriek that's a saving of 10 nodes

[frail harness]

I'd hate it if it wasn't so good

[rigid sky]

It's worse than that

Puppet master and Solidity are marginal at best too

Whereas all builds take Warp Rider

10 nodes for Siphon (or 9 if you have Shriek)

[frail harness]

I like solidity, but yeah puppet master is just okay compared to the other two trees

[rigid sky]

Vs 4 for EP (5 if you take the mid node)

Solidity is a bit pointless with warp charges and Shriek imo

Ironically

[frail harness]

Hmmm yeah but I like essence harvest over inner tranquility so solidity is less wasted

[rigid sky]

I only take charges on Purgatus and Solidity does like nothing lol

[rigid sky]

Yeah me too

[frail harness]

Yeah purg generates so little peril most of the time it's not that helpful

Anyway thanks for the help. V new to trauma and still trying to remember to not blast at the Ogryn's feet like a griefer 😅

[mighty cipher]

I think Scrier's Blaze might work

[rigid sky]

Perils of the Warp speedrun strat just dropped

[mighty cipher]

It's doing things

And so far I've only blown myself up twice

[faint gyro]

I’m not incredibly familiar with the terminology, but I usually run the needler projectiles, an autogun, a chain sword, and the force push. The idea is to get lost in the sauce throwing projectiles at people far away, then bully things nearby with my high peril being used to damage people.

I also just find the guns in this game so fun.

My only major weakness is that I can’t bully bosses as well as I’ve seen other psykers, but everything else consistently dies

[frail harness]

If you're running gunker right you should have among the highest boss DPS in the game

[mighty cipher]

Where's the clip of Pug one magging a Plague Ogryn?

[rigid sky]

So, the secret sauce for bosses is Disrupt Destiny, Scrier's Gaze, and a CIAG

Uh, Columnus Infantry Autogun

The moment you hear the boss call, go into SG

Keep your stacks and quell while you wait for the karker to show itself

Then the moment you get to mid range of its weak spot, pull the gun out and unload and it should die in a little over 1 mag depending on your ability to hit the weak spot

No other psyker weapon can come close

Barely anything at all can apart from a perfect Thunderhammer shot

[ionic needle]

What about damage stimm!? :>

[rigid sky]

At that point one almost feels sorry for the karkers

[hollow current]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1204841511347421294/nothing_personnel.nothing_personnel.nothing_personnel.mp4?ex=65e8a819&is=65d63319&hm=36fbfdc174a8d70abbb70186a0bbda73b092a75352b5a3ab061cff33d6492a5b&
red stim helps too

[faint gyro]

I absolutely feel it tearing apart normal things, but with bosses I either get targeted half the time it seems, or I’m backing up to restore shield on some minions (my SC has shield replenish). I built to be as tanky as I could without sacrificing damage, so maybe that’s my issue.

[frail harness]

Does your gunker build look something like this?
Yeah it's difficult to maintain DPS if you're getting targeted.
Idk what SC stands for

[mighty cipher]

THEY ADDED NEW SPAWNS TO CARNIVAL

The entry area of the Ampitheater has two spawns in its rear

[zinc phoenix]

Can’t you just deny those by standing on top of em?

Pretty sure they’ve been there for a while

[upper sun]

ye

its fucking over 😦

cant have shit in tertium

next they're gonna remove all plasteel,books, diamantine from assassination missions so i cant do dailies anymore

[rigid sky]

Smite vs Assail optional choice

[cosmic sigil]

there is also a glitched door when you enter the cellar

bursters explosion can still kill you from behind

[lapis violet]

this a good blessing on hsword 9?

[faint gyro]

Let me show you

[lapis violet]

in general, this weapon is a scrap either way

wait wrong chat

[faint gyro]

It’s not that.

[lapis violet]

lol sorry

[faint gyro]

Hopefully you don’t call it too wack.

I’ve only been playing a month lol

I like it tho so it’s cool

[frail harness]

I mean there are a few trap talents but a lot of it is personal preference

[rich spindle]

is wildfire actually ass

[harsh urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/always-has-been-among-us-astronaut-space-betrayal-gif-23836476

[rigid sky]

Mostly

It is maybe OK on Blaze trauma

Like, if you run EP and thus have points to spare, you can get some value from it sometimes

But it's marginal at best, and terrible in any other build

[faint gyro]

It’s assail, to seers presence, to venting shriek

[rigid sky]

Yeah, with Venting Shriek you sacrifice a lot of gun power

Scrier's Gaze is fucking crazy for guns

Take an Illisi to defend yourself

And embrace the glass cannon life

Burn the candle at both ends

And also in the middle

In fact just burn the candle with a flamethrower

Don't be a star in the sky, be a fucking supernova

Shriek is fantastic, but the gun life is not one to live with one foot in

All or nothing

[frail harness]

Yeah, what Krags said. Scrier's Gaze is the entire reason to use a gun as Psyker. It's incredible

[rigid sky]

If you wanna be shooty and have Shriek, go Voidstrike

Still works with Disrupt Destiny and Assail

[near bobcat]

for psyker what would the dumpstat be for the columnis IAG?

[rigid sky]

Probably mobility like most cases

Damage is less important than you think though

CIAG has a narrow damage range

[upper sun]

mobility yeah

[rigid sky]

Mine is like 65% damage

It still works beautifully well

[frail harness]

Stopping power = stability > ammo > damage = mobility

IMO

[rigid sky]

This

[near bobcat]

gotcha, i wanna try gunker a bit and i tried a columnus

was frankly floored at how fast it killed stuff in testing

[rigid sky]

Except stopping power over stability

[upper sun]

stability? guys staves ruined your aim adjustment

[rigid sky]

Every bullet in SG counts

You don't want to lose too high a proportion of them to the ceiling

But it depends on the wielder I think

[near bobcat]

bought one and i guess i'm keeping the first one

[upper sun]

looks great to me

[frail harness]

That's why I put an =

[rigid sky]

Make it a > I mean

[near bobcat]

now i just gotta pray for some good blessings

[rigid sky]

You want Dum Dum

Probably Maniac and Unyielding

[frail harness]

Ciag needs flak damage

[rich spindle]

what about shriek warp siphon spam build 🥺

[near bobcat]

Any other blessing besides dumdum?

[rigid sky]

Flak Unyielding then

You really want Unyielding though imo

Lean into the boss shred

[mighty olive]

Blah gun builds >_<

[frail harness]

User's choice. Fire frenzy is good. Hit & run, stripped down, speedload

Though you don't really need faster reloads tbh

Oh yeah deathspitter is good

[near bobcat]

im gonna be using a build that uses brain burst and gun psyker stuff. brain burst is mainly for ogryn, everything else dies the same

[mighty olive]

https://tenor.com/view/zoey-clarke-1x08-pressure-gingerneighbor-zoeysplaylist-gif-23444884

[rigid sky]

Gun kills ogryn too

CIAG kills Crushers if you are in SG but it takes half a mag or so

Use Assail for horde thinning, shooter bullying, DD target hunting imo

Rupture too slow imo

Not right for this build

I would consider Smite as the second choice

Rupture a distant third

[near bobcat]

what build would you reccommend for gunker then

[rigid sky]

Assail, Disrupt Destiny (15 stacks for 30s version), Scrier's works best for me

[frail harness]

BR is fine, but a dueling sword with uncanny handles crusher packs well. Then you can take smite and use it if you're in a terrible tight spot with the team

[rigid sky]

Running Illisi and CIAG

[mighty olive]

I no like gunker in the games current state

[rigid sky]

OK, personal preference is fine

But it is very strong and quite different

Much better developed than the pathetic pre-13 gunker

[upper sun]

aiming is overrated this is why i only play surge and purge

[mighty olive]

I have yet to play with a gunker who can top me playing good ol fashioned psyker, just feel you bring more to the team

[near bobcat]

Got it, I'll look at building into assail and crits

[rigid sky]

Not a competition

[near bobcat]

Or probs smite

[upper sun]

pug jugler does pretty well

[near bobcat]

(i kinda wanna avoid smite because everyone in auric uses it -3-

[mighty olive]

I dunno what that means >_< I sorry!!

[upper sun]

the person by that name

[mighty olive]

Oic

[upper sun]

the easiest auric i ever did had two psykers one that pretty much only used smite and me on purge and BB

every single thing melted

[mighty olive]

It's very good

That's why gunkers make me sad, there's not enough love for that build atm

[near bobcat]

My concern is range on the Columbus, this is a gun you can't really run with

Or well, move.

[faint gyro]

Alrighty. I do really like my assail, but I can try it. Tell me more about what makes SG so good on gun class?

That’s the Lightning ability if I’m not mistaken, yes?

[upper sun]

you get damage crit chance and movement speed helps a lot when shooting

but it makes peril increase so youll be a lot safer with a gun instead of a staff

[frail harness]

The reason I choose smite instead of assail is the Psykinetic's aura is insanely good

[faint gyro]

Got it. I will say I like venting Shrek because I like getting absolutely lost in the sauce, and then with the peril for damage slot, kill little dudes coming for me, or stagger bigger characters who aren’t dead yet

[worn beacon]

Is SG good for ds4?

[faint gyro]

It is impossibly fun to get 100% peril, and instantly slap a mutant coming for you with your spicy wind

[feral verge]

it cannot stagger muties

[frail harness]

That's what I use. Works well for horde clear

[faint gyro]

I’m pretty sure it staggers them when they stand still, not when they’re charging

[feral verge]

i am 1000% sure it cannot stagger them

at all

[faint gyro]

At all?

[feral verge]

1.8k hours

trust me

[faint gyro]

Understood.

[feral verge]

doesnt stagger muties

there are very few things that can stagger muties

[faint gyro]

That’s an absolute Mandela effect bcs I’m almost certain I staggered one before after I dodged it coming at me.

[feral verge]

those few are: dueling sword 4 special attack head shot, surge, smite, ogryn charge

[faint gyro]

Maybe someone else did smt, bcs I’m genuinely confused on why I remember that happening

[feral verge]

if you remember it happening

[worn beacon]

I don't think you stun muties

[feral verge]

then i can 1000000% guarantee someone else staggered it

[worn beacon]

You kill muties

[faint gyro]

I immediately feel less cool

[feral verge]

if you are still in doubt, go into the psykhanium go to 100% peril ventign shriek at mutie, and you will see it unstaggered, unbothered, in it's lane, moisturized, flourishing

[faint gyro]

I trust you.

I’ve only been playing a month. I just got level 30 3 days ago. I know I’m definitely not as experienced.

[worn beacon]

Muties are just designed to not be staggered

[faint gyro]

I mean, that makes sense now that you say it.

My apologies for being just straight up wrong

[feral verge]

that's okay homie

[frail harness]

Well if you're using a gun, you're not generating peril. So an ability that gives you a huge damage and crit chance increase at the cost of peril is very strong

[faint gyro]

Understood. Typically, I like using assail becuase it’s basically free ammunition, and I can use it to recharge toughness on my own.

[frail harness]

You can run assail & scrier's in the same build. The lightning ability is Smite

[feral verge]

EP brain burst is alot of fun

but damn is it frustrating too

bb still wonky after the patch, sometimes

[frail harness]

Scrier's would replace venting shriek

[feral verge]

sometimes the bb doesnt proc

[faint gyro]

Yes. I have VS for how often I like using Assail.