psyker-class

[kind sequoia]

Both ogryn masks with orange eyes, psyker chem dog mask, and veteran helmet with orange eyes

[tulip kettle]

for a new build

so, you can get the CD of shriek to the point where its off cd within 10 seconds every time

if it instadeletes a horde of 100 trash units that is a viable trash clear option

[steady yarrow]

I'll give that a shot. I typically run voidstrike and have gotten to 286/300 but just end up getting a kill stolen or boss spawn.

[tulip kettle]

run it with surge staff and a duelling sword, have an amazing time with an off meta never before seen build

or a deimos for unstable power even

or illisi

OR OBSUCRA, YES

hmmmmmmmm

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9b3e2e0c-5bcc-44ad-b7bd-e437bc2169cf/fus-ro-dah

alternatively take smite and use it to kill stuff youre holding with smite

if you manage to kill 8 elites its 0 cd on shriek

so in a real game kill a few and its up every 5-6 seconds

shouting and clearing every trash mob within 10-15m sounds pretty cool actually.

groaners wont work actually so flak is better than groaners too

kill scab shooters and such too

[burnt maple]

Is there a good way to a build the Obscurus???

[haughty star]

Obscures is just bad deimos

It's like a really unhappy medium of the Illisses and deimos. The moveset is real bad on it

[mighty cipher]

Just completed a mission with 200+ ranged elites

Im going to commit inverse living life

[burnt maple]

It sucks, it was the first force sword and it went straight to the dumpster

[winter siren]

yeah stick to illisi if you want slashy action, deimos for the big stab

[tulip kettle]

i mean in this build its just a dmg boost stick

and a bullet shield

its not for actually hitting stuff 😄

i just played with it, and its honestly okay

i think if i was better with surge staff i would be performing better

[winter siren]

yeah if it gels for you that is fine. just objectively the illisi or deimos is better

[tulip kettle]

its for a meme buiuld

shown above

with damage shriek

taking deimos or illisi

will make me actually use the sword 😄

[rigid sky]

They even buffed it when its siblings were released, and yet it went from being one of the best Psyker weapons to being totally outclassed.

[winter siren]

flaming illisi is my jam

[tulip kettle]

but my theory does seem to work, the shriek does kill the trash in a cone in front of you

leaving all the elites as juicy targets for your surge staff#

i just kept forgetting to swap to the sword to use shriek

and then nothing dies and its very feelsbadman

[burnt maple]

I've never really gotten a lot of mileage out of Blaze blessings from the swords. Granted, I don't have Bloodthirsty, yet. I assume it's okay paired with Bloodthirsty?

[opaque charm]

I'd love to be proven wrong, but this seems like a silly thing to use

[unique mist]

it is not the meta

[cosmic sigil]

You kill too fast with bloodthirsty. I had best results with shred.

[tulip kettle]

scroll up

turns out, with + infested, + flak and unstable power on your sword and this tree, you one shot all the non elites within 10-12m in front of you when you shriek

assuming you have warp charges, which you will

[opaque charm]

"all non elites" so it's doing over 688 Unarmored and 625 flack?

[tulip kettle]

im not couinting bruisers

sorry

i mean pox, groaners, shooters

[opaque charm]

Hmmm

[tulip kettle]

im not saying its super good, but its no worse than creeping flames would be

[burnt maple]

That's actually kinda impressive lol

[opaque charm]

I'll tinker with it and see what's up

[tulip kettle]

and you shriek every 7-8 seconds realistically

im trying to enjoy surge staff

[burnt maple]

Are you using the CDR aura with it?

[tulip kettle]

yes

and psykinetics

[burnt maple]

Nice

[tulip kettle]

and warp charges

[burnt maple]

Become a nova sorc from diablo

[opaque charm]

Any possibility this power can crit?

[tulip kettle]

i ahvent tested but i dont think so

i just played 1 game with it and if i was better with surge staff and remembered to pull out the sword to shriek i think its got legs

[opaque charm]

Unstable power seems like a real easy way to get the boost in power

[tulip kettle]

yup

unstable, deflector, +flak, + infested

[opaque charm]

But there may be some other blessing combos to consider

Like Slaughter

Would be even more

[tulip kettle]

yeah but then i have to kill stuff first with the sword

when what i want to do is zap elites with the surge staff till high peril then swap to sword and shout

swap back rinse repeat

[opaque charm]

Makes sense

[burnt maple]

Can you post your build? Sounds pretty fun lol

[tulip kettle]

i dont know if the 10% dmg boost from smite applies after you finish channeling or if it ends immediately

i posted it above

[dim adder]

fucking P A I N

[tulip kettle]

but to not be so memey

[burnt maple]

Okay cool, thanks

[tulip kettle]

i would say take an illis instead of obscura

so your sword is still great for killing hordes just by hitting them

you only need to use BB on crushers

[dim adder]

ilissi or deimos ❤️

[lethal lagoon]

You know if it wasn't for the damage fall off, it might unironically be good.

I can't get over the damage fall off though

[tulip kettle]

yeah the only reason im taking obsacura above is to make me not hit stuff

[tulip kettle]

agreed

its like 10-12m it kills stuff from

[lethal lagoon]

Half the point of flaming shriek is "Fuck everything in this 25 meter cylinder."

[tulip kettle]

yeah, but slowly

this is shorter range but faster results 😄

[wind spruce]

Funnel*

[lethal lagoon]

No it's a cylinder

You can test it by mass spawning horde

[wind spruce]

It expands as it moves away doesn't it?

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, there's a clip of it, lemme see if I can find it.

[wind spruce]

Hmm I thought I'd tested that but must be my memory again

Will test again when I'm back from gym if you can't find it

[lethal lagoon]

Fuck, I can't search for it in my history because I probably spelled cynlinder wrong in my history

[lethal lagoon]

I searched "kamehameha" and found it, lmao human memory is a fucking wonder

#psyker-class message

It's pretty firmly a "kamehameha" cylinder.

[burnt maple]

ngl I always thought it was a point blank aoe centered around the psyker

[radiant frigate]

unchained enjoyer i presume

i thought that too, until i realized it's a frontal cone

and then i found out that it has spicy range

[burnt maple]

I don't really have an excuse lol I don't really use shriek now but it was the only blitz we had for months and i just never noticed. I usually keep everything in front of me so even less of a notice. I do vividly remember when the knockback effect could just miss sometimes and that was really annoying or maybe that them being out of range of the shriek, now that I think about it.

[ornate hamlet]

Any suggestions for Scrrier Gaze, siblings?

[tulip kettle]

elites to flak, dum dum instead of ghost

ideally i would rather also have +5 crit chance but maniac 20 is just fine

dont use it for shooting crushers, if you must shoot maulers shoot them in the chest

[austere crest]

is cone

[austere crest]

thats a cone

[lethal lagoon]

That's a cylinder

[austere crest]

it doesnt come from the air to your left and right

[lethal lagoon]

It literally does.

[austere crest]

it comes from u

[lethal lagoon]

The only thing coming from me is a cylinder

[austere crest]

lul ok

do u

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

cone is what gives it verticality as well

at least in my game

[lethal lagoon]

It has the same verticality from start to finish

So cylinder

[austere crest]

wider at the end

but yeah maybe diff version of the game or something idk

always been cone for me

[lethal lagoon]

That's the illusion

Ima do another clip when I get home and see for sure if it get's wider or not.

[austere crest]

in that clip its a cone

[lethal lagoon]

Just line everything up nicely, have an elite at 30meters, have invisbility on.

It's not?

Am I blind?

I don't see it

[austere crest]

maybe, its starts at u and goes wide fast ,but will not hit directly left and right

[lethal lagoon]

I wish he didn't have enemies "on" in that clip

It makes it hard to tell, anyways, I'll be proving one of us wrong in a couple of hours

[austere crest]

u need more enemies than that, bc its 30m

that close is gonna be thinner than if they were really far

its hard to tell ya

[lethal lagoon]

I'm just going to line up a bunch of enemies and have an elite marked at 30 meters

[austere crest]

but if you watch spread in use, its just distance based

yee

[lethal lagoon]

Probably better to do in third person too

So you can see the wings

[austere crest]

i saw a perfect demo long time ago with the alternate meat grinder map

looking for it

[lethal lagoon]

Wrong channel bud

[austere crest]

XD

[fluid dawn]

my bad

[dusk sierra]

worth?

damage is sad days but uncanny is nice

[long wharf]

no

[dusk sierra]

ty

[austere crest]

XD check out this test

love the reliability of shriek XD

[knotty brook]

if i was to use a lasgun on my psyker, what one would be most recommended?

[austere crest]

here u go tho

Cant find the Dikanium soulblaze videos tho, they were so fucking good for demo

[lethal lagoon]

.... We have different eyes

[austere crest]

u can see the burned ones are in the shape of a cone

[lethal lagoon]

The enemies are standing in a cone before he even shrieked....

....

[austere crest]

it should be apretty even sum

[lethal lagoon]

Like before he shrieked, they were literally already in a cone.

Anyways, looks like I need to do my own test with a proper 30 meter box formation.

[austere crest]

they werent

heres another pass

[lethal lagoon]

They were absolutely in a cone in that clip.

[austere crest]

i wonder how long the psyk is

like if u can get a full 30m

[lethal lagoon]

Oh for sure.

when I was doing grenade gaunlet tests to see when it blew up mid air

[austere crest]

imma try to fill this bitch

[lethal lagoon]

The pysch was farther than 30m

[tulip kettle]

probably the kantrael 1a

or laspistol X

recon lasguns poopy

[wind spruce]

Fucks sake these are bad test videos

[austere crest]

ok just making them quick XD

not a cone tho right

one sec

[lethal lagoon]

Fuuuck, ima do my own right now too. I want a perfect box shape with a third person pov.

[austere crest]

here we go

i think my computer almost died fr

im pretty sure, would have to test, but i think it may get wider conage depending on peril

[long wharf]

I doubt it

it already scales the push force by peril

[austere crest]

youre right its always coned based on distance

[long wharf]

and this is why we psykers know more than anyone else how the game works

frigging testing

[primal plume]

Psyker should get an Ice power

freeze enemies in place

shatter them for bonus damage

[austere crest]

thatd be kinda sick

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/V8W5a3

[long wharf]

I think it'd be more interesting if we laid down an ice sheet on the ground, freezing anything on the ground in-place for a period of time

[wind spruce]

longer video showing its a cone (skip to 2 minutes then 3:40)

[austere crest]

ur video quality is better than my game bar XD

[wind spruce]

this is gud

third person chadness

[austere crest]

after u mentioned it i was like, oh wait, aerial lol

what are u using for screen record?

[wind spruce]

Outplayed

Idk if it's any good tho

[austere crest]

oh it has its own software?

[wind spruce]

I didn't do any research and I'm not good with tech

[austere crest]

ignore the commentary, i cued it to it being used, but something like that yeah? https://youtu.be/tcDhEI5ZXA4?si=k_6Vc7gKnSmBCKWI&t=23

[lethal lagoon]

So to preface, this test is shit, but at least it's different than yours. (also ignore the level, it's my alt psyker).
Trying a better one in a second and gonna zoom out more.

[wind spruce]

its easy for a normie like me to make quick clips and stuff, i havent actually used the internal video editor much

[austere crest]

looked really clean

[wind spruce]

Look at the last 30s of my video

[austere crest]

3rd person was much easier, i had same problem

[wind spruce]

Make a line of stuff. Back away as you hit your combat ability

Watch the catchment zone spread

[lethal lagoon]

At least mine shows that it absolutely hits your left and right

[austere crest]

perfect demo

[twilit sand]

can this be saved? dont know if dmg vs infested is any good

[austere crest]

holy shit i thoguht that was a screenshot atlas lmfao

but those were in front of you left and right

not to your direct sides (thats all i was meaning)

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I just looked at irosk's clip

It's a cone

[austere crest]

they are smarter than us

Talking about cones, actually makes me want ice cream

[lethal lagoon]

Breh snicker's cones go so fucking hard

Wait no they didn't, I'm confused.

[long wharf]

ice cream snickers bars are better

[austere crest]

i used to get those from the ice cream truck back in the day

[lethal lagoon]

The last few bites of a snicker's cone is wild

[tame venture]

isn't opening salvo really important?

[quasi grotto]

Usable but not perfect, can pick it up and swap in Nexus for terrifying barrage and maybe crit chance or carapace for sprint. 3/4 not bad until you can get a better one

[wind spruce]

Atlas

I understand why you were confused

omegawtf clip coming

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

this is the only shot i have of the alt grinder

it was so good, but broke with patch 14

[plucky ibex]

What's a good Deimos build?

[wind spruce]

I hate this game
https://outplayed.tv/media/MrLbe0

[twilit sand]

kinda what i thought but wasnt sure, on a side note would i be better off just taking surge and putting it on this?

[long wharf]

it's not a cone but a rectangle?

[tulip kettle]

well, sometimes its a cone

as we saw above

[austere crest]

hella wider up close

[tulip kettle]

sometimes it isnt XD

[long wharf]

wtf

[wind spruce]

It seems to be wider up close

[austere crest]

its cone, just not far enough to see the widening bc its farther back

wait , maybe

A DYNAMIC CONE!?

[long wharf]

inverted cone?

[tulip kettle]

no no, its like, a wide thin rectangle, with a cone on the back

[quasi grotto]

Charge rate pretty low imo

[long wharf]

so a trapezoid

[austere crest]

a trapezoid XD

solved.

[lethal lagoon]

Like a cylinder with a cone

[wind spruce]

pro paint skilz

[austere crest]

ohh

[long wharf]

except that's not what your last video shows

[austere crest]

ur saying like it hits front line immediate, then cone

[lethal lagoon]

Ima preparing a massive poxwalker box test now.

[wind spruce]

well its not very accurate paint skillz

[long wharf]

it shows basically a rectangle in front of you

[twilit sand]

yea but if you look its only .09 sec slower charge rate then having 80% charge rate, kinda feels like a dump stat to me lol

[austere crest]

If literally all of us are correct based on diff distances im going to max peril and popping

[tulip kettle]

i think this is the closest we can figure, right?

based on all you guys different videos above

[austere crest]

but also in game, it doesnt always feel like its super wide up close

but sometimes feels wide as shit

i already closed but atlas about to do a mega one, and they are doing closer than i was so will show that shape better

[long wharf]

"shout_shape = "cone""

[austere crest]

that would make sense from like a psyker lore perspective

because you would pull in the warp and push out

[lethal lagoon]

I just finished the recording and got out of memeory

[austere crest]

lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

Perils of Time, Hourglass.

[austere crest]

Best game.

Damn Pfhoenix was dead on

[long wharf]

welp, that's pretty definitive

[austere crest]

its like an hourglass

[lethal lagoon]

The Perils of Time

[unique mist]

U sure its not a circle around the player + cone

[lethal lagoon]

Ima literally explode

[austere crest]

Which absolutely would look like a cylender without distant enemies

so you're right to think it

[unique mist]

Check if it gets enemies behind u

[lethal lagoon]

Nope my game crashed, not doing it.

[unique mist]

kek

[austere crest]

XD mines closed too

i dont think it does tho

[long wharf]

I've never noticed enemies behind me being affected by shouting

[wind spruce]

its defo not behind u

just tested

[austere crest]

i think only block works like that

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/MrLbJB (not showing behind)

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

I kind of like the shape of it

[long wharf]

the shout code is at action_psyker_shout.lua

[austere crest]

ur such a troll lmfao

[lethal lagoon]

your clip was too long

[tame venture]

should i take maniac or unyielding?

[austere crest]

I saw that atlas

haha

[lethal lagoon]

[lyric burrow]

maniac

unyield isnt really that great on ds imo

it is more damage but its still not like great vs bosses

[austere crest]

i meant like direct left right, you're right about the left and rightlike in front of body

[long wharf]

https://github.com/Aussiemon/Darktide-Source-Code/blob/c27ca99a1168e3150672397b0b80ca9b4b118a51/scripts/extension_systems/ability/actions/action_psyker_shout.lua#L170

[lethal lagoon]

At least I have an actual solid test clip now.

[austere crest]

im such an artist, but in that part i meant

[wind spruce]

https://outplayed.tv/media/Y0W7lW

Therea ya go @austere crest

I imagine they wanted to ensure that things in your LOS and melee range would get caught

Because it would be jank otherwise

[austere crest]

yeah

[long wharf]

and they didn't want a cone because that'd get too wide at a distance

[wind spruce]

didnt want a cone with that wide of a base, yeah

[long wharf]

oh, well this completely explains it :

[lethal lagoon]

This also kind of changes how you should use it

You wanna avoid the center hourglass range

[long wharf]

if (shout_dot < dot or distance_squared < CLOSE_RANGE

[austere crest]

that shape explains why some crushers in a horde wouldnt get hit at all sometimes

[long wharf]

so that dot check is a dot product check (limits angle to either side)

[wind spruce]

Yeah you want to back off a bit more than you might initially expect

[long wharf]

distance_squared is a radius distance check

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I was definitely leaving damage on the table when I shriek too close

[austere crest]

nope the time i was thinking of was just being locked in so didnt stag #darktide-pics-vids message

[long wharf]

all enemies in the facing direction of the psyker within a proximity distance and an angle offset from the psyker's facing direction (cone)

the combination is the hourglass-ish shape we're seeing

[austere crest]

i have a problem with always being too close

[lethal lagoon]

Well being too too close works

[long wharf]

you're actually leaving damage on the table by shouting too far away

[lethal lagoon]

Cause you are getting the smaller hourglass bubble

But just too close get's you the center part

[austere crest]

ahh

I feel like weve all been playing this for a long time and just learning this XD

[wind spruce]

That proximitity distance is 2.8m (roughly), right?

[long wharf]

ideal situation is you place the hourglass cross-section at a doorway

[wind spruce]

since x^2<close range (8m)

x= 2.83~

[lethal lagoon]

I thought I was a sayian, but I'm actually just an old man, hunching around

[long wharf]

looks that way, though I'm not sure where you're getting the 8 from

[wind spruce]

Isnt close range 8m

Or is it 10

[long wharf]

not sure

[austere crest]

the real shriek mvp is when there is no shriek

[long wharf]

but yeah, square root of that value

[wind spruce]

I heard someone say it was 8, havent tested

[austere crest]

you're smart

math hard

[lethal lagoon]

When the shriek animation goes off but the dog is still on top of you

[austere crest]

my life

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/smart-smrt-gif-27302983

[lethal lagoon]

TBF, if you yell at a dog not to jump on you, they'll probably jump harder.

[wind spruce]

When shriek animation go off but you still explode

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think I've had that happen, I have been caught by a mutant, shriek animation goes off, but I still explode in his arms.

I assume it's just server lag, but it still hurts my feelings.

[long wharf]

definitely lag

[wind spruce]

Yeah lag for sure

[tulip kettle]

so this?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[long wharf]

it's not a flat line at the minima, but close

[wind spruce]

It.s ~3m radius outwards from u

[long wharf]

CLOSE_RANGE = 9?

[wind spruce]

Makes solving for x easy

[long wharf]

sure, why not make PI 3 while we're at it?

[wind spruce]

PI?

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/slap-forehead-guppy-we-can-be-heroes-ugh-smh-gif-19762564

[wind spruce]

ohhh

lmao

the capitalisation confused me

Pi you heretic

[long wharf]

sorry, didn't mean to shout

"pi"

[tame venture]

i did not realize i had the one on the left, after finishing on the right.
is uncanny strike 4 enough to use it instead?

[austere crest]

gotem

[lethal lagoon]

No, more of a hourglass

[wind spruce]

Its a semi circle in front of u

and then a cone

[long wharf]

you draw with nerves of ... jello

[wind spruce]

lmao

[lethal lagoon]

With proper stablization to absorb impact?

The quality of your handwriting would not change in an earthquake

[wind spruce]

I could never draw a straight line

Or get my signature to look the same

9/10 art teachers hate him

[tulip kettle]

you sure it hits people directly to your left and right like this?

or more like this

[wind spruce]

Nah ur more right

[tulip kettle]

well, thankyou everyone

now just to work out how exactly the damage drop off on the damage version is working...

a job for tomorrow

[lethal lagoon]

Fuckkkk

I really wanna know if it drops off at the hourglass center

[long wharf]

damage-wise?

[lethal lagoon]

yeah

[long wharf]

I wouldn't expect it to

[lethal lagoon]

Well shoot, now that I know the shape, I dont have to crash my game this time.

[long wharf]

any damage falloff should be by straight-line distance between psyker and enemy

[lethal lagoon]

Let's find out

[tulip kettle]

i need to see this exact thing but on uprising difficulty with dmg talent

but i am going to bed

peace out fellas

[austere crest]

I GOT IT

perfect

[long wharf]

perfect

[tulip kettle]

hess yeah dude

[austere crest]

the gap is from the shout

[tulip kettle]

Venting shriek effect shape

for later searching 😄

[wind spruce]

Your true level

[lethal lagoon]

Holy crap, that looks like a phraroh picture.

Wait, which culture am I thinking of, with this hat

I know it's a thing.

[tulip kettle]

i NEED to go to bed

but one more thing

the blast originates further away then reapplies for the close semi circle

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder if that's just an animation thing

[tulip kettle]

play it in solwmo

[lethal lagoon]

Cause then that applies it pulls the people in front of you to it.

[lethal lagoon]

So its really tough to tell, but it looks like the damage fall off happens after that center blast.

[austere crest]

cousin okri ur hot

[austere crest]

i go outside sometimes i promise

[austere crest]

legit does

[lethal lagoon]

Okay, confirmed then, Psykers built the pyramids

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

okay fine, i dont.

[lethal lagoon]

[long wharf]

nobody believed that you did

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

kek

[lethal lagoon]

I had week 1 90 hours in palworld, so I cant really talk

[austere crest]

i thought this one looked like an upside down angel

[austere crest]

Impressive XD

[long wharf]

wait, did you mean "ankh"?

[lethal lagoon]

Also, the blast animation is interesting, I would if it means anything.

Nah, one sec.

Revaling my attempt at spelling Egypt, wtf.

[long wharf]

are... are you okay?

are you having a stronk?

[austere crest]

im not sure i understand, is it pushing the farther ones first?

[austere crest]

This in commodore vestures

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think so?

It's just the blast for the pysker spell seems to be in the middle of the hourglass

Or the third eye

[long wharf]

nobody wants to see your butthole.

[lethal lagoon]

7 billion people, I feel like nobody is a strong term.

[austere crest]

I mean

[long wharf]

good luck discovering who does, then

[austere crest]

nvm back to the blast

[lethal lagoon]

Also it seems like the blow back is stronger in the "face" part of the egyptian woman.

They look like they fly further

[austere crest]

i think so too

its hard to tell through the soulblaze

but they look more lit up after the midsqueeze than pushed

[lethal lagoon]

The damage from the psyker damage ability also seems to fall off after the center animation.

So if that has anything to do with the stagger, then it fits.

[austere crest]

the initial part is way more clustered

yeah

it feels that way in mission

[long wharf]

more force on closer enemies maybe

[austere crest]

the vet ult is 360 right?

[long wharf]

yes

[lethal lagoon]

No don't talk about the vet ult,

[austere crest]

thats about as much as i know anyway

psyker is 1995 vet is 45

XD

my least played class

[lethal lagoon]

Is the vet ult a 360 circle or multiple overlapping cones

[austere crest]

oh no

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

ATLAS WHY

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

WHY

lmfao

its a cylinder obv

[lethal lagoon]

Multiple cyclinders

[long wharf]

overlapping cones would be intellectually challenged

[feral verge]

https://tenor.com/view/spherebirb-sphere-spherefinance-parrotlyfinance-parrotly-fsc-flockers-gif-25269904

[plucky ibex]

What does the source have in it? Dark secrets?!

[austere crest]

That actual calculations

[austere crest]

vertically too?

[feral verge]

perhaps

[plucky ibex]

Oh wow that is the actual source, and it's in Lua :/

[lethal lagoon]

Cones

[long wharf]

yep, Darktide's non-core-engine code is all Lua

automatically explains why FartShack devs have such a hard time with solving a problem that exists in multiple places

[austere crest]

THE PHAROAHS TOMB

[lethal lagoon]

So how far does it reach about the vet's ahead, and is it sphreical or maybe even a cube

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky ibex]

"if shout_shape and shout_shape == "cone" then"
apparently at one point it wasn't just a cone if there's a check for it

[long wharf]

well

or the dev wrote that for future proofing

[lethal lagoon]

The devs are ancient aliens and left clues about their existence in the game's ability patterns

[austere crest]

i knew it

i felt it

[magic hull]

wtf are you holding my guy? 😂

blunt damage?

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/it-was-the-aliens-im-not-saying-it-was-aliens-ancient-aliens-gif-14839810013080040984

[magic hull]

howd you get this.

[austere crest]

get what

[austere crest]

girl* It's my shiny eyeball jabber!

[lethal lagoon]

Lowkey, it's kind of wild shout hits so many potential enemies, never really conceptualized without the aerial view

What mod is that, I kinda wanna do one for voidstrike and purg

Maybe one for blaze trauma too

[austere crest]

Camera Freeflight

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/32

and matched up with 3rd person mod

I spent hours just looking around maps and stuff, its really well detailed

How I found all the bells in HL70 XD

[long wharf]

I just followed the guide that was put out 10 minutes after the map released

[austere crest]

not orthus offensive, HL 70 Carnival

[long wharf]

oh

[lethal lagoon]

Wait what, do they do anything?

[long wharf]

nope

[lethal lagoon]

Do they ring though?

[long wharf]

sure

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

They make you feel good for making them ring

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

Its kinda fun to get people to hit them in pubs tho

Theres two just before the end even above the doorway, i usually get a team mate to hit one while i hit the other

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of pubs, I unlocked hardmode in a t2 pub with what seemed like new players

[austere crest]

Then they say, what was that for, and I say, For the Emperor

[lethal lagoon]

I bet they were super confused when they spawned behind the wall during the boss fight

[austere crest]

everytime

[lethal lagoon]

I would say it makes the last fight harder to see if it makes em do worse

[long wharf]

yeah, it's not great game design to be able to mess with other people's first run like that

[lethal lagoon]

tbf, it's a lot of effort. I also had to make sure enemies never got close so they wouldn't get close and hit the bells.

[austere crest]

ever had this happen?

[lethal lagoon]

The levels?

[austere crest]

cant advance to team

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, you mean intro spawning?

I've intro spawned, but it never progress blocked me

[austere crest]

I crashed, came back, and it spawned me in the wrong section, farther back

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, came back to the intro?

That I've never seen

Only join and get sent to intro

[austere crest]

not the full beginning, but the area with medicae

[lethal lagoon]

That's unique

[austere crest]

that area

yeah super odd

[lethal lagoon]

What's strange is that rejoining usually fixes stuff like this

Like if you got trapped behind

[austere crest]

It was full reverse, had to altf4 and it was fine, but lost like 5 min due to two restarts

[lethal lagoon]

I thankfully don't crash anymore. Used to all the time. Got a second internet line and turned off extended weapon mod 😦

I hope they fix the memory leaks on that eventually

Maybe they alreayd have.

The surge animation is bugged too

[austere crest]

Lucky

I had two memory crashes on my lunch break earlier

one after each mission

[lethal lagoon]

I live close to a cell phone tower, so my 5g home internet is better than cox

But fuck do I wish I had fiber

[lethal lagoon]

Probably the weapon mod.

[long wharf]

prune juice or bran cereal will fix that

[austere crest]

i JUST got that recently tho

it seems intermittent, some days its fine for hours

that shit does have weird crashes though

[lethal lagoon]

Oh man unexplained crashes are so aggravating.

[austere crest]

Does it crash on Xbox?

I always wondered

[lethal lagoon]

I'd be kinda shocked if it didn't crash at all

[austere crest]

i dont know what a xbox would do with a crash

maybe just return to menu

[lethal lagoon]

That's what playstation does for games, so probably

[austere crest]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

By menu, I mean the PS menu, where you select your game

[austere crest]

yee thats what i was thinkin u meant XD

i felt it in the warp

[lethal lagoon]

Just like the psykers who built the pyramids felt it in the warp

[austere crest]

🐸

[opaque tendon]

normal histg/hi/auric 5's are more fun than auric equivalents, you cannae change my mind

[wide lake]

What are good perks to put on Trauma?

I'm thinking Unyielding/Carapace, but I have been wrong far too many time

[austere crest]

Atlas im gonna post on reddit for others to see the shape in that video, can i add this pic too and give credit to u for it?

[lethal lagoon]

There are risks to the great psyker conspiracy.
(but yeah go ahead lmao)

[austere crest]

lmfao kk

[lethal lagoon]

I am curious what a bunch of psykers think of the actual pattern of shriek

[austere crest]

right?

[wind spruce]

Flak and crit chance for blazing trauma

[flint aspen]

I kinda wish there are more variants for the non-gloved cosmetics

[wide lake]

Got Carapace locked, so have to be Flak+Cara for now

[lethal lagoon]

"Wow, it would be nice to see this for every shout type skill."

(it really would be though)

Ima do one for smite jump vs no jump

I feel like this big box of enemies works for lots of testing

So there is a difference, but would the difference matter in a normal game? +1 Jump is first, no jump is second.

I also crashed before I could do more testing

[mighty cipher]

Damage is still a dump stat on the Purg staff right?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah

Wait I missed a spot

[near wyvern]

That is not great enough difference to claim it does benefit for sure due to the RNG nature of the spread

[lethal lagoon]

Oh btw, maybe this would be helpful in the Athenumemem?

[near wyvern]

I can add it there today. The image is yours?

[lethal lagoon]

I made the image from @austere crest video.

[near wyvern]

Right then I can't add it

Without their permission

Is that venting Shreik or smite?

[lethal lagoon]

The smite one is from my video

[near wyvern]

Seems soulblaze to me

[lethal lagoon]

That's shriek

[near wyvern]

Yeah

But still until we get a green light from @austere crest can't use it

[lethal lagoon]

I wonder what else would be intersting to see from this POV/box of enemies

Psyker wise

Maybe difference between 60% and 80% cloud raidus?

same for trauma but blast

[near wyvern]

Trauma

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah I'd rather do trauma anyways

[near wyvern]

Overlay min and max charge on top

On paper the difference is huge

I bet it would be more strongly conveyed in an image

Also charge rate

In a gif or something

Overlayed

[lethal lagoon]

Only issue is I have to get a crit and re set it up every time

[near wyvern]

Minnand max charge rate

[lethal lagoon]

Thankfully the box doesn't need to be as big

[wind spruce]

Perilous combustion and wildfire

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I can use true aim to game the crits

PC would be cool

[near wyvern]

Wildfire is 5m

Radius

[wind spruce]

Just saying the visualisation might be kewl

Is PC the same range?

[near wyvern]

Perilous combustion is 4m

Radius

[lethal lagoon]

Agreed, but the +1 jump kinda pushing behind is interesting.

[near wyvern]

Is that consistent or not? You should try it by smiting in the middle of the pile

[lethal lagoon]

I'll do that after trauma, if it's consistent it would be a need.

I'll probably use a few less enemies, I wanted to test more but it crashed

It's just smite hit half of what I placed even without jumps

[wind spruce]

Disable your mods that aren't needed for testing

[near wyvern]

I mean it would only be of use if you have bad positioning but still that's better than nothing and might be of use for new Psykers

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, that's a good idea, I'll do that after my next crash

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, and I'd rather change my positon than smite someone behind me anyways.

[wind spruce]

Still reeling from shriek not being a simple cone

[near wyvern]

A must for EP smiting tho if that is the case. I still prefer soulblaze smites even if that's the case.

[wind spruce]

Mfw I noticed

[lethal lagoon]

Alright I'm doing 53% blaze trauma and 80% blaze trauma, should I add another?

[paper loom]

guys is this a decent knife?

[ornate hamlet]

so the +1 jump isnt worth it then:

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is good?

[lethal lagoon]

I screwed up a couple of things but I thought this was funny to see.

Gonna set it up right, now.

So I potentially discovered a bug. True Aim/Blazing Spirit doesn't proc if the attack is at 100% peril.

[ornate hamlet]

whats the difference between a strike party and strike team

in this server

[lethal lagoon]

Strike party are just random voice chats, strike teams are meant to be used for actual LFGs

Is what I understand

[ornate hamlet]

gtocha ty

should i change my smite +1 range talent to another?

if the difference is negligable

[cosmic sigil]

Dude, I tested that. It was really nice to try something different

[near wyvern]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

There were also enough enemies on that screen to crash my game, I have no idea how many are allowed to spawn in a normal game, but definitely not that many

This was 53% blast radius, before I test 80%, is there anything missing? @near wyvern

[stone canyon]

40 crafted trauma staffs and counting, still no blazing spirit

to save plaststeel i pick mostly just green staffs from shop so need to upgrade only once and always get lvl 3 blessing

maybe there is something related to blazing spirit that makes it not drop from lvl 3 pool as its special?

[lethal lagoon]

Back way before patch 13 I constantly got trauma staves "busted" by getting blazing spirit 😅

[stone canyon]

special as in maxes out at lvl 3

[lethal lagoon]

So probably just horrible luck

[stone canyon]

did you get it as your last upgrade?

or as first blessing

[lethal lagoon]

First I think, I can check my inventory

I have a purple with blazing

[stone canyon]

So there goes that theory too, just bad luck then

Its the reason i do my psyker last when it comes to weeklies, thinking maybe ill finally unlock it before going for em

[lethal lagoon]

53% vs 80% Blast Radius Blaze Trauma

I think I'll do a better one if I have time tommorow.

Bonus Psyker Nuke

[austere crest]

do anything

[austere crest]

haha i ended up doing every class and trauma as well XD

[lethal lagoon]

Blaze trauma hits so much farther than I expected

[lethal lagoon]

Did you post em anywhere?

[austere crest]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUNfzOig86E trauma actually blew my mind in general

yeah i just put them on youtube so i wasn't spamming reddit with a bunch of posts when ppl were asking

couldnt do zealot in meat grinder though for whatever reason

[lethal lagoon]

That Ogryn one is ASMR lmao

[austere crest]

lol

i wish we could save layouts

it sucks so bad adding that many enemies for each

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, did you see the pysker explosion one I posted?

That raidus is larger than expected too

[austere crest]

no

il search

[lethal lagoon]

It's right up there

[austere crest]

oh

[lethal lagoon]

I also did blaze trauma

So you can see the radius from the fire

[austere crest]

damn

thats almost identical to the smaller vet ultimate

[lethal lagoon]

I was thinking the same thing

[austere crest]

whoa 53 does make a noticable difference

[lethal lagoon]

Ima make pictures with circles, see if it's more obvious.

[austere crest]

When the vets pop with the plasma gun, do they explode?

[lethal lagoon]

Apprently it does and it used to be able to get the psyker achievmeent

Not personally confirmed though

[austere crest]

XD

[radiant frigate]

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fpvkpwdbrdhu11.jpg

Yes

[austere crest]

XD

not as directional as I thought

[lethal lagoon]

I did my best to capture them at the same timing, so enemy knockback didn't effect it too much.

[lethal lagoon]

What happens if you point at the ground?

Wait a minute, this changes the shape.
Not just the Egyptian Pyramids but also the Mayan's!

😱

[austere crest]

Ill try that now

[austere crest]

this is cool to see im kind of stoked were doing all this XD

[austere crest]

I almost think the initial semicircle is directional? It does seem less hourglass

[lethal lagoon]

I really wanna know how they decided on the shriek shape, and yeah, it's pretty cool.

[austere crest]

seems similar result

its almost like the semicircle changes direction of creeping flames, but push stays the same

oh wait i can do down from far away

[austere crest]

i couldnt be fucked that time to spawn alot more XD

[austere crest]

yeahh i think

bc cone always goes the same

[lethal lagoon]

All the pyramids are now covered

I wonder then if it'll hit something 30M above you

Also with dogs, will it knock them off if you just aim above the dog and not it through the wall?

It should.

Or maybe it always goes forward relative to your character and there's a set shape rather than my cone figure

[wind spruce]

I believe this is the case. The semicircle being directional on three axis, and the cone on two

[lethal lagoon]

So vertical aiming of shriek likely doesn't matter at all

Man, I feel weird about that

Cause I aim it all the time

[austere crest]

I aim it so much

[wind spruce]

Well I'm saying it would for the semi circle

[austere crest]

i wouldnt think to NOT aim it

[wind spruce]

But I haven't tested

[lethal lagoon]

it doesn't seem to

[austere crest]

It seems like the stagger is similar but soulblaze slightly different

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, you mean for the animation

[wind spruce]

Nvm I misinterpreted skudies earlier video pointing upwards

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah it's gone

Look at the down video, the shriek animation is gone

That little explosion.

[austere crest]

i wish we could do like a semi transparent visualizer

[austere crest]

i clipped this too short

[lethal lagoon]

So it should have been obvious but this also means shriek is hitscan

[wind spruce]

Yeah I think the answer is vertical aiming is irrelevant

Which tbh is how I've been operating for awhile

[austere crest]

mind = blown

[lethal lagoon]

He's with the aliens.

[wind spruce]

It's pretty obvious when you're on the big jump downs xD

[lethal lagoon]

Also I feel really silly now for always aiming it

I need to join a server with the Peepo Depresso .

[austere crest]

i'm usually like, oh you're dogged, 1 level up and behind a wall? aim at player direction directly and blast, never thought it would be just horizontally and still hit, but theres a good way to find out, i'll join a heresy and wait for someone to get dogged haha

[lethal lagoon]

Me too

[wind spruce]

You should just be able to test it without the dog factor

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like the dog is the dog though

Nitro was a mistake.

[urban sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/discord-nitro-discord-nitro-gif-19472808

[lethal lagoon]

Anyways, the dog should be the sort of definitive test in my book

The pysch is also offline too after all

[wind spruce]

Ok well let's do it

Rip

[lethal lagoon]

I'll have to run like a tier 3, do people even get dogged anymore?

It's been so long since I've seen one in an auric.

[wind spruce]

Form a stronk team?

We'll have to deal with ping

[lethal lagoon]

This was my last stronk team

[urban sandal]

still happens at least once or twice a match in auric maelstroms

assuming its hunting grounds

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I forgot about hunting grounds

But tbf, hunting ground is usually in your face

[wind spruce]

Ideally we want it to happen where there's verticality

[lethal lagoon]

So magi, camp the bridge before the pipe drop down

[wind spruce]

There's a ton of spots on pre much every map

But yis

[lethal lagoon]

Magi one is perfect though

[wind spruce]

True

[lethal lagoon]

It makes specials spawn go brr

And it's right at the beginning

[austere crest]

no freaking way i need to test this on psyker.. holding down ult shows the radius on vet

[lethal lagoon]

[wind spruce]

Doesn't do anything with shriek - just tested

[austere crest]

vets get so much love

[lethal lagoon]

That honestly makes me more relieaved than dissapointed

It's also possible fatshark themselves don't know the area of the shriek

👽

[austere crest]

XD

[lethal lagoon]

If there's an auric magi up, Im down to test it.

[wind spruce]

There is

22 mins left

frond code: 2092727681

[spice veldt]

the wall shield also gets something neat when you hold the button down

so just a matter of being a new ult i suppose

[austere crest]

why no work

419915530

[wind spruce]

Old zealot old has targeting visuals when u hold down

[austere crest]

i have a zealot w me

[wind spruce]

It wants 10 digits

[lethal lagoon]

I joined off Irosk's

You can try mine? 3117858534

Oh you have someone with you, then join yours?

[austere crest]

wtf

it wants extra number for me too

https://s.team/p/cnbk-jkbp/hpqrrfrk

[lethal lagoon]

Aight, I added you.

[wind spruce]

Same

Zealot friend joining @austere crest ?

[austere crest]

jesus

[cosmic sigil]

My god

[paper loom]

worth a try?

[cosmic sigil]

Lacerate is not really what you want on a knife

[paper loom]

oh what do you need?

[cosmic sigil]

You're supposed to hit weak spots to get the most of it

If you want bleed go flesh tearer

Bis blessing are uncanny + riposte/precog/executor/flesh tearer

[paper loom]

ah ok ty

[proven crest]

cursed fucking image

everywhere i look it gets worse

[cosmic sigil]

Cannot be unseen

[paper loom]

sorry to keep asking this also just popped up never used this wep before is it worth a go? ***

[urban sandal]

not really

I mean you can try it and see if you like it, but in general the mk4 is better and beyond that it just isn't that great of a weapon for psyker when you have dueling swords

this is coming from someone who used the mk4 devils claw exclusively from level 15 or so to level 130

[paper loom]

i also got a nice axe in the same thing lol but never tried either

[urban sandal]

tac axe isn't bad but you'd ideally want a higher finesse stat

and it's one of those weapons that requires a bit more effort for the same amount of performance as other weapons

[paper loom]

ah ok mate ty il stick with my ds its a mk2 but still not bad

[urban sandal]

yeah that's a good place holder for a mk4 whenever you get a good one

[paper loom]

yea if one ever pops up:]

[urban sandal]

[undone moss]

yo any tips for gaze gun psyker to deal with crushers/ mauler

[vestal fulcrum]

Melee with Uncanny Strike

[undone moss]

i has las pistol with infernus

my mk4 duelinng has lvl 3 uncanny strike

[vestal fulcrum]

Or melee that deals respectable Carapace damage from the get-go, like Rashad combat axe

[undone moss]

i feel like it doesnt do anyting

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s good enough

[undone moss]

maybe im just bad

is rending the same as bleeding?

[zenith vigil]

does this worth buying from melk?

also what kind of blessing/perk should I have on it

[limpid willow]

Hi, is this a good staff to build? Btw, what are the important stats and dump stats. Also good blessings and perks

[spice veldt]

different things
A weapon has a base damage, and then it has armour damage modifiers that affect the percentage of the base damage that it deals to that armour type (unarmoured, infested, flak, maniac, unyielding, carapace).

rending% will increase that armour damage modifier number additively. If your attack deals 60% damage to carapace, then +30% rending means that you'll do 90% damage to carapace now.

When you reach 100% adm (armour damage modifier), then rending%'s effect is reduced to 1/4ths. E.g., if your attack already deals 100% adm to flak, then +40% rending means that the adm will be 100% + 40% * 1/4 = 110%

[austere crest]

you guys are fun ❤️

[wind spruce]

you too mate

I wish ping wasnt a thing so I could group for actual games

[austere crest]

down to f off like that or play ultra serious anytime

[lethal lagoon]

Same

So basically just need to back up

[austere crest]

XD

beautiful

[wind spruce]

Banksy, is that you?

[lethal lagoon]

[undone moss]

bet ty

[lethal lagoon]

Now here's the question, is elevation limited by 30 meters

[radiant frigate]

pacifist run?

[lethal lagoon]

Look at my character name

I was level 1

[radiant frigate]

ah, no smites

i see

[lethal lagoon]

But at level 6!

I carried an Auric Malestrom Duo

Also yeah, smite is really unpleasent without a full tree lmao.

[urban sandal]

no

[urban sandal]

this would work for a blaze trauma

flak/crit chance and blazing spirit/warp nexus

[lethal lagoon]

That raidus is solid

[lethal lagoon]

Damage isn't a complete dump for Blaze Trauma, but that staff could last you a awhile if hadron doesnt brick.

And yeah same blessings and perks he said ^

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of f off memes, I've been wanting to do 4 psykers only smite/shriek auric mael

[radiant frigate]

cursed

[lethal lagoon]

[radiant frigate]

always two there are, no more, no less

we can't have 4 sith lords

[lethal lagoon]

So you are suggesting a duo Auric Mael with Only smite

[radiant frigate]

Perhaps

[austere crest]

im down thats a lul

+wildfire too

[lethal lagoon]

Aight, I'll hit you up when I level OnlySmites up

Of course

[austere crest]

hot

[lethal lagoon]

You know, if we time the flaming shrieks together, the bosses might not even be that bad

that's 24 stacks

[austere crest]

soulblaze illisi we can stack more too

[lethal lagoon]

I've found no one ever takes me seriously when I say OnlySmites

You'll be able to see it on the scoreboard

cause smite doesn't weakspot or crit

[austere crest]

as much as i dont have fun with it, im down to see how it goes, i enjoy chaos

[lethal lagoon]

I've been on the smite meme train since there hasn't been any new content for a while now

0 weakspots 0 crits meta

[austere crest]

I've been having fun just push stabbing stuff until im needed XD

[lethal lagoon]

Melee builds are fun, but sometimes I forgot I'm actually a squishy psyker

[thick sequoia]

@opaque charm Thanks for Sharing that Assail build Video! 2 gentlemen were trying to help me with assail advice? but when attempting to get them to elaborate more.. ( because in certain scenarios i always fail due to being a total Noob ) ..they wrote me off as being weird for asking about it again Anyways Your video helped a bunch!! please make more vids 🙂 Good Day

[austere crest]

https://tenor.com/view/close-window-terry-jeffords-brooklyn-nine-nine-shatter-omg-gif-16762929

me with 75 toughness

[limpid willow]

@urban sandal @lethal lagoon Thanks for the help!

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know how you run base stats, to me this is the perfect psyker.

Memes aside, I should probably try all stamina just to see what it's like.

I think I have enough +3s on one of my psykers.

[urban sandal]

become a knock off shield ogryn

[quasi junco]

wtf loading in by myself

[austere crest]

ive never tried a health or toughness curio since launch

[urban sandal]

always happens when joining a match in progress

sometimes the teammates are there sometimes they aren't

[hearty crane]

I use 2 health 1 toughness

[austere crest]

basically all toughregen, block eff, stam regen, sprint eff

[lethal lagoon]

[austere crest]

no keystones 🥹

i just like to run my ass off and still have stamina to engage

[lethal lagoon]

No keystones means you can run perfect psyker 200/220 though

That honestly sounds really fun.

[feral verge]

I use 3x toughness, with toughness, HP and Stam Regen perks

[austere crest]

did u ever see my sketchy ass orthus?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mugka9D97yQ&t the ogryn had never done it, and as soon as the boss spawned, he runs right into the fog to get the team rescue and dies

but run n gun is addicting af

[lethal lagoon]

Wait can you sprint slide forever with that much stamina?

[austere crest]

but like, the psyker with high mobility changes the whole feel of the kit

naw

well

you mean repeatedly?
yes

or run for 32ish sec straight while blasting

heavy +slide is no stam used

[lethal lagoon]

Fuck, that looks like so much fun.

[austere crest]

its honestly hard to do anything else

just be aggressive but smart

stopping = death

[lethal lagoon]

Have you tried popping one in DD for extra zoomies?

Or you just don't like using the keystones at all?

[austere crest]

i used to

but the quell speed node fits better

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, with how much you use dagger though, true aim might be pretty effective.

I've been wanting to a try a true aim blaze trauma thingy, esp after that blaze trauma testing

[austere crest]

1 sec in maelstrom

truee

woudl maybe give upkinetic flayer to get there

[wind spruce]

Watched that orthus

You are bonkers skudie

The surge cancelling is so impressive

[austere crest]

XD ty

i broke my mouse wheel that day

[lethal lagoon]

^ All zoomies everywhere.

I was too slow

So no zoomies for me

But yeah that surge canceling was pleasent to watch

[austere crest]

we moved good on that run even without trying to go fast

4 good players cheeses that hard