psyker-class

[rigid sky]

Rupture has ease of use too

Score a mouse-over at any point on a target, sweeping from above, and it'll definitely die or at least get set up

whether it's by your brain or somebody else's gun

[untold niche]

volvo you can kill the bugger as soon as you whip it out

[rigid sky]

More timing required but yes

[untold niche]

what timing

[rigid sky]

however revolver precludes you from using a staff

[untold niche]

BB takes time to charge

[rigid sky]

which is fine some of the time

[untold niche]

thats why i said its more efficient for someone else to do it

[rigid sky]

but some of the time I wanna trauma

[untold niche]

the ping tool is secretly an autokill feature but with the caveat that there is variable time delay for when does the target die

from experience, when i miss the running trapper and i ping, he magically dies half a second later

OP feature

Precision
Infantry
Nullification
Gadjet

[radiant frigate]

i like that

[paper loom]

Am I missing something or is shredder auto pistol total garbage?

[spice veldt]

it got left behind by patch 13 yeah

[paper loom]

Shame back to columnus

[eager token]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1100153654738161726/1201063253707608085/image.png?ex=65c87452&is=65b5ff52&hm=25625594ca832719cdbd29fba3ee0ca79975f64efac7bf386a5c9c6cbfec71ec&

anything i could change on this or should i just wait for warp flurry 4

could do crit to flak/carapace or something idk

[feral verge]

Crit Strike chance to flak

Warp flurry t3 to t4 won't be noticed, really

[eager token]

yeah that’s what i figured

the 4% crit isn’t hurting anything but more flak is always good

[earnest laurel]

you can keep the crit, crit on purg is really good, because it applies soulb, but up to you

[eager token]

ya i was just looking to optimize

not sure what’s “better” in that sense

[feral verge]

Don't recommend crit perk

It's not bad, but damage is way better

[eager token]

things a damn near perfect staff lol

[earnest laurel]

the crit would make horde clear better, the flak for specials or whatever

[feral verge]

Purga already crits enough

I've used purga for a v long time

Crit Chance perk doesn't do all that much

Damage perk 100% the way to go

Between warp nexus, crit chance feat/aura and psyker base crit rate of 7.5%

You just don't really need any more crit

Look how many crits I've gotten in these games

And that's with the staff I posted above

[eager token]

that’s all the reasoning i need

1 mil dmg

i had 750k last night, my next goal is 1m

[flint aspen]

crosspost from #darktide-pics-vids but man smite is very useful against poxhound hordes

also mace windu is rolling on his jedi grave

[hushed heart]

Why did Hadron give me 25 Unyielding on a Voidstrike staff

[stone canyon]

Melk is taunting me with this thing

I got 6/7 level 3 blessings, missing Blazing Trauma (only one i need) and crafted about 30+ trauma staffs at this point

Then Melk brings staff with two lvl 3 blessings in his shop like that

[earnest laurel]

Don't let the brainlets here see you type anything positive about smite.

[opal pebble]

Has any psyker stuff changed alot since the twins boss mission got added? i havent paid attention.

[stone canyon]

We gotten new toilet seat cosmetic

[rigid sky]

People have finally learned that the enemies with the blue halo around their heads are already about to die (I am lying)

[opal pebble]

is it drippin?

[stone canyon]

Im sure it fullfills someones kink

[hushed heart]

Do people not like smite

I thought Assail was the blitz everyone hated

[rigid sky]

People hate all of the psyker blitzes

[opal pebble]

i love assail

[rigid sky]

Rupture never goes off, Smite tickles enemies and does nothing once you get flanked, Assail just whizzes around tickling everything on damnation or solos the level below that

But they're also all really good

[opal pebble]

i ahavent tried smite

[prime elk]

assail wipes just fine even on damnation

[hushed heart]

Assail is bad on Damnation?

[rigid sky]

Rupture kills anything and everything single-target and can spread perilous combustion at range easily

I'm not finished with my point :p

[plucky flax]

All blitz good but assail is goodest.

[rigid sky]

Smite keeps whole rooms locked down and safe with no effort, to be mopped up by your team, and still gets backed up with a good ranged weapon

And assail is just so versatile too

[plucky flax]

But assail require the most points investment though.

[rigid sky]

Like Rupture with less precision and no Carapace value, but much more anti-group power

[patent wing]

which map for the warp battery penance?

[rigid sky]

And it coexists better with your main weapons

[patent wing]

i just got 279 from 300 on archive :(

[rigid sky]

All blitzes both suck and rule

[solar orbit]

guys Deimos perks are Maniac/Flak ?

[rigid sky]

Just make it make sense with your build

[plucky flax]

I prefer maniac carapace for deimos.

And uncanny.

[rigid sky]

I think so? Depends on what your ranged is doing

Consult the Atheneun

Atheneum

[hushed heart]

I just like Smite because it stuns maniacs

[solar orbit]

i am gonna use it for ranged crit build , with las pistol + assail

[rigid sky]

Probably want Carapace then

Maybe

Idk

[solar orbit]

it looks now like that

[rigid sky]

Maybe just uncanny and using the special is enough

[hushed heart]

Is this a good talent tree for Assail

[solar orbit]

what's uncanny ?

[rigid sky]

Rending blessing

May not be necessary

Idk, haven't used deimos with gun

I use it with Trauma where it's only got very isolated usecases (Mutants 99% of the time)

[flint aspen]

When I first tried the trauma staff, I felt underwhelmed using it

Maybe it'll be different once I reach 25 to 30

[spice veldt]

yeah its range of stats is abnormally higher than other weapons

and is the first force staff to be unlocked

and has an unusual aiming mechanic

truly one of the beginner staffs

[solar orbit]

i have been using all the time mk4 duel , just want to try something new , i play with gaze , and with that sword+gaze in melee=powerhouse , heavy attack oneshots mutants

[bold abyss]

ohh that's maybe, the problem, I keep trying to use it on groups for myself, so smite is for you to help your group mostly, got it.

[rigid sky]

Or to keep yourself safe

[solar orbit]

try out void staff is great , it's like plasma gun , charged attack goes through all enemies

[rigid sky]

Just be sure to ping the guys that are threatening you

[flint aspen]

Weirdly enough I like handling as a Psyker more than using the plasma gun as vet

At least I don't need to wait eleven years to finish reloading that karking thing

[earnest laurel]

Power up penance is going to be the death of me. Fuck whoever thought of that garbage. Running purg staff with brainburst+shield with pugs is cancer.

[ornate hamlet]

Which one is that?

[flint aspen]

I already fucking hate the warp charge penance

[earnest laurel]

have to kill with brainburst while at max warp charges

[rigid sky]

Also peril is actually meaningful, heat on plasma is just a semi-reloading mechanic since RMB is almost completely degraded now

Apart from memeing on crushers

[flint aspen]

Plasma overheat will never not be funny

[rigid sky]

Never happens now though

[flint aspen]

Your character just obliviously stares at it instead of I dunno chucking it at the heretics?

[rigid sky]

It's already glued itself to your hands I guess

Like your hands have started to melt into it

It's also technically not exploding

It's venting heat to preserve the gun at the expense of the operator

Which is one of the most 40k things about 40k imo

[misty cypress]

Do it on one of the new carnival missions. Both have incredibly long finales with high enemy volume, definely five minutes from the point of entering the open roof phase on the first map, and 5 minutes from the scan phase of the second map. My self and my buddy finished it on each of those maps respectively

[lapis harbor]

I got it during hi intensity part of the ambush ("Obscura Den?")

[misty cypress]

the only two helms for the psyker that do the deep voice, is the new chemdog one, and the one that makes you lool like a navigator. The navigator has two color variations so three helms in total

[upper sun]

its gonna break my heart when this bricks

[rigid sky]

Emperor won't let it happe

Happen

[upper sun]

may my faith be as strong as yours sibling

[mighty fractal]

what

That's exactly what force sword push attacks do

You can shove a Crusher out of their overhead windup and they'll fall onto their back

Ragers in your face? Just push them down and slide away

[dim adder]

I'm convinced surge is just a lie to keep psykers playing

[sharp shoal]

Peril of the warp blow up kill elite seems easy

I'm using bb builds

I don't like the shards or lighting

[stone canyon]

Im getting bored of Voidstrike Staff 😬

[sharp shoal]

Do purg

It deletes non carapace with crit flames

[stone canyon]

What to do with Carapace ones then though?

[sharp shoal]

That's why I got bb

[stone canyon]

Its the most awkward skill in the game, refuse to use it after i got done with the penance

[sharp shoal]

But anything non carapace melts pretty quickly

I kill rager packs in like 7 seconds

It's just mauler and crusher purg won't kill

[stone canyon]

7 seconds sounds awful longtime in Darktide tbh

[sharp shoal]

It's for charge up

Charge time included

[upper sun]

yeah half your team just died in 7 seconds

[sharp shoal]

Lol

They die near instantly when it's charged

[upper sun]

surge staff can stagger 7 crushers in 8 seconds

[sharp shoal]

I can 2 shot a crusher from across the map with bb

With warp charges

Maulers is 1 hit

I don't got my warp flurry on my purg yet

But it outright drops stuff without it

I like purg and trauma myself

i don't have the crit chance on peril blessing on my staff which i need

[rigid sky]

That blessing has caused me more suicides in the last week than I'd had in the prior year

[sharp shoal]

lol

oof

i run shriek myself

cause bb build

[rigid sky]

I'm running BR too but with Dome and EP

With fire Trauma usually

[sharp shoal]

i got shriek for soulblaze stacks on vent

it lets me dump to spam bb more often

[rigid sky]

I do love that too

[sharp shoal]

only thing is

using ability drops all charges

[earnest laurel]

I think only yellow eyed one has the voice though

[rigid sky]

Yep, but you get them back because it soulblazes everything to death

[sharp shoal]

yeah true

i got a 372 purg earlier

i wanta 380 roll

i also got a 377 illisi

[rigid sky]

I think Shriek is better on a close/midrange map for this build

[bold badger]

true but if there are packs of specialists you gain it back fairly quickly.

[sharp shoal]

purg rolled maniac first

at 20%

[rigid sky]

But I was getting sick of dying in Ascension Riser 31's giant rooms

[sharp shoal]

not 25 but 20 is good enough

[rigid sky]

And dome helps unbelievably much there

[sharp shoal]

i got used to not using dome

i use it if i go trauma though

but not with purg

run and gun was fun for a bit on purg

letting me just go through pox hordes to res people

right now im doing 100 max charge kills and 25 specialists before they incapitate on heresy

[rigid sky]

I will have to go back to Shriek for the fun factor

[sharp shoal]

im also tryna do cliff hanger

but thats not easy with randoms

i did do my malleus monstrum and my 4 in 10 already

so 2 of 3 cosmetics

i need the hood now

to get it i need cliff hanger stikk

still

and max warp charges for 300 seconds

which is actually not to hard

then the suicide peril kill a elite

which seems easy

its straightforward just peril and blow up a elite

[zinc phoenix]

Used to be five 🤦‍♀️ you guys get it easy

[sharp shoal]

lol

i remember that

but still easy

i did it on a group of gunners back on pc

[bold badger]

and your teammates would always kill the elites as you were going through the perils animation so you'd down yourself for nothing

[sharp shoal]

just ran in while charging bb

and got 6 of em

and died nobody ressed me

was kinda mean

but even doing 5 isn't to hard

on high intense you get packs easily

[zinc phoenix]

So mad erry time

[sharp shoal]

i got a pc and xbox so i can que private myself

[zinc phoenix]

We didn’t used to have high intensity, just standard Damnation

[sharp shoal]

oof

yeah i remember that

damn ain't to bad

its the auric mael damns that get me

i need to pratice maels more

espeically the elite/special blitz

the swarms of like 20 or so muties at once

[plucky flax]

Run away.

[sharp shoal]

lol

that gets the team killed tho

[near wyvern]

Deimos or Smite will do the trick

[mighty fractal]

Low-Intensity and High-Intensity came afterward

[sharp shoal]

i use bb

but i do like deimos

[mighty fractal]

But because people just wanted to farm missions, they'd usually only run low-intensity Damnation

which was super boring

and it's one reason why i quit playing for a while

[sharp shoal]

i like high intense shock myself

its fun

[mighty fractal]

But once I saw Auric was a thing and that it guaranteed at least high-intensity, I was stoked

HISTG is a good baseline for me

[sharp shoal]

i don't like regualar high intense

[near wyvern]

It's the weakest of the blitzes but still a properly cradted one shot Deimos will help you

https://youtu.be/6v6uUZI6T5c

[sharp shoal]

it has to eb shock

[mighty fractal]

it's just challenging enough and throws just enough unexpected situations at you to keep things interesting while also being pretty cozy if the players are decent. And if they're not, then you have a fun carry situation on your hands

Mostly Melee is my favorite Maelstrom modifier, and I wish it came up more often or showed up on the regular Auric map

I would gladly swap vent purge for it lol

[sharp shoal]

i'll get a deimos

melee one is fun

[mighty fractal]

Vent Purge and Lights Out hogging up two auric modifier slots is a bit of a bummer to me, but some people like those modes

[sharp shoal]

but not when im tryna do runs without getting hit by elite melee

for a penance

[mighty fractal]

Mostly Melee is where Trauma really starts to shine

rending trauma is a lot of fun there

[sharp shoal]

deimos has single target and illisi has cc

i'll get a deimos next

[flint plover]

auric quickplay frustrates me because it keeps giving me 1.) maps I just ran, and 2.) normal hi-intensity. i get that's the point of quickplay but damn it

[sharp shoal]

shock hi int is where its at

but randoms usually die in those

[steel flame]

And then they quit

[sharp shoal]

yep

even if you lose

you still gets collected mats

[vocal cliff]

Time for a run with 2 orgyn's, either they bump heads and just share brainxells between or do something

[mighty fractal]

Most HISTG pubs are okay, from my experience

[flint plover]

most missions are like a revolving door, lol

[mighty fractal]

there is a high volume of leavers and joiners, though

which is annoying

[sharp shoal]

i do best as og

psyker is my worst class

[mighty fractal]

The other annoying thing is that QP seems to prioritize giving you one single map out of the entire pool

[sharp shoal]

but i still win fairly well most times

[flint plover]

oh, while that's true I often leave games that are 'unsalvageable' so that a bot can maybe save a run

[sharp shoal]

i don't mind dieing to get my mats

[mighty fractal]

It might be the most-recent map

[sharp shoal]

im still working on getting blessings on console

[mighty fractal]

But dammit, I don't want to play Lights Out Power Matrix!!

[sharp shoal]

so i need more mats

[mighty fractal]

stop giving me lights out power matrix!!

[sharp shoal]

lights out on aurics is no fun

[mighty fractal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1001295091996053534.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[sharp shoal]

to many randoms die there

[mighty fractal]

It just puts me to sleep

[sharp shoal]

then leave

[mighty fractal]

like literally

Lights Out makes me feel sleepy, so I avoid it

[sharp shoal]

also i believe

[mighty fractal]

plus you get fewer hordes, I'm pretty sure

[sharp shoal]

demon host

[mighty fractal]

and smacking hordes is fun

[flint plover]

I'll get quickplayed into a mission where someone is bringing along their level 28 friend (screw you, people who do this), leave, quickplay again right into that game, leave again, quickplay again, then go back into that game. Is there really only one game up?! Come on!

[mighty fractal]

you also get more DHs yeah

[sharp shoal]

doesn't count for monsterous malleum

[mighty fractal]

God I hate this so much lol

[sharp shoal]

a friend did the kill on a dh and it didn't count

i drew aggro and used shield didn't attack

dh didn't count

[mighty fractal]

I'll even wait a bit so I can avoid the game where the newbie is getting strung along by his friend

and it'll still give me that lobby

[flint plover]

same

[mighty fractal]

You can check to see if the game has filled in the Social menu

but yeah, sometimes it'll just throw you back into that game if that map isn't on the board anymore

[flint plover]

oh, but sure, if I get DC'd from a game that I was enjoying and try to rapidly get back in via quickplay? nope

[mighty fractal]

Yeah sometimes crashing/dcing won't give you the rejoin prompt

it's very annoying

[earnest laurel]

Because somebody else took your place

[mighty fractal]

Nah if you crash or DC, the game is supposed to save your spot for x minutes

The inverse is also annoying: people who F4 and then don't boot their game back up

[flint plover]

well, yeah, but what I'm talking about is how that won't work but I keep getting into the same game I'm trying to escape, lol

[mighty fractal]

So you're stuck with a bot for 5 minutes until the game gives up their spot

[earnest laurel]

Are you sure?

[mighty fractal]

I have no proof of this, but it's a recurring scenario in the games I play

[flint plover]

yes

[mighty fractal]

If you look at the chat log, people who crash/dc don't say they left the game

they'll just vanish from the game without a message

People who do manually leave will say they've left the game

[flint plover]

the only time it won't save your place is if you get an error during loading or 'leave mission'

[mighty fractal]

^

If you alt+F4, the game will treat you as if you've crashed

[quick python]

also sometimes the lobby will just crash

[mighty fractal]

and you'll get a prompt to reconnect when you get back to character select

[quick python]

then you can't reconnect at all

[mighty fractal]

It's why people suddenly leave if they get netted or thrown out of bounds

it's so they can rejoin as if nothing happened

[mighty fractal]

I've gotten that before

I crashed an entire lobby once by using Zealot Chastise while reaedying a stim LMAO

[flint plover]

some fun facts about cheesing deaths: If you are bleeding out (health bar is red) and you alt+f4, you can reconnect alive and with one wound missing. If you're hanging off of a ledge or pounced by a dog and alt+f4, you'll come back perfectly alive.

[quick python]

it's pretty rare, happens most often after updates

[mighty fractal]

which makes me think that there's no rigging/animation for zealots charging while holding stims aloft

[mighty fractal]

I've played with people who seemed like they were using alt+f4 macros

It's pretty funny

[quick python]

my favorite was back when flamer was in vogue and the showstopper blessing would crash the server

[mighty fractal]

Every single time this one Zealot I played with got netted, he would instantly disconnect the instant he got netted

like, beyond human reactions

and then he'd rejoin almost instantly

[flint plover]

the instantly part is sus

[mighty fractal]

so my guess is that he was running a script

[flint plover]

it's a pain in the ass to rejoin, so much loading time..

[mighty fractal]

or had a macro

[mighty fractal]

god I remember this lol

[mighty fractal]

yeah it was very strange

sometimes he'd take a minute to rejoin, other times, he'd be back in 10 seconds

Dunno how that works since loading times in this game are so bunk

[sharp shoal]

i'd kick him for it

[mighty fractal]

I personally love disconnecting during downtime, then rejoining and finding yourself in the middle of a horde

the rest of the team is on their final wound, there's a chaos spawn rampaging about, a gunner nest down the hallway

[flint plover]

reminds me of that one time I quickplayed into a game just in time for a crusher overhead

[mighty fractal]

like how the fuck did this happen in the 40 seconds I was gone

Oh yeah, I joined a game the other day while a burster was mid-leap

My screen was fading from black while I was flying off the platform on magistrati oubliette

All I could say was

"Well that's a nice welcome"

and then the party wiped

very neat

I also love joining missions with only one wound left, and you're standing in a fire puddle

so you frantically dodge out, and now you have 5hp left after having just joined

I also joined a game the other day mid-Daemonhost, and she was wailing on the Ogryn

He died, and then the DH turned on me when I had one wound left

rude-ass binch, I just got here and I didn't even touch you!

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1001295091996053534.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[ruby berry]

illisi my beloved

[harsh urchin]

Lol alt f4 if you get netted is such a bitch move

[mighty fractal]

I see it so much that it doesn't even register for me sometimes

It's just like

"Oh, yeah, they'll be back in 30 seconds"

and there they are

zealot mcstabby, now free from a net

[ebon pawn]

hmm can somone tell me what is the dump stat for the voidstrike staff? :>

[mighty fractal]

It does fix you getting thrown out of bounds though

I had to do that yesterday because a spawn and a mutie played volleyball with me and punted me into the floor of the map

[tulip kettle]

blast radius

[flint plover]

is blast radius the explosion once it impacts?

[ebon pawn]

ah thanks. im guessing charge rate and quell is the priority no?

[ebon pawn]

i think so?

[tulip kettle]

damage is first

all others are secondary

blast radius last

for voidstrike specifically

and yes, the size of the explosion at the end

and a minor effect on the size of the projectile from what i understand

[ebon pawn]

if its Trauma force

then does blast radius matter?

[tulip kettle]

then blast is priority instead of dump

[mighty fractal]

Blast Radius is priority on Trauma

[tulip kettle]

echo in here

[mighty fractal]

You want the epicenter radius to be as wide as possible

Oh whoops, missed your message lol

[tulip kettle]

nah im trolling dude :p

[mighty fractal]

[tulip kettle]

it was straight after

sounded like an echo

[mighty fractal]

Discord moment

[ebon pawn]

i got this one. is some of it wack?

[mighty fractal]

but yeah you want that radius nice n big to make the epicenter (the real damage) bigger

[ebon pawn]

maybe sustained fire?

[mighty fractal]

and also to spread fire on the edges of the circle if you're running Blaze

[tulip kettle]

lol that trauma is awesome

IF it were me

[mighty fractal]

You could turn this into a good Rending Trauma

[tulip kettle]

i would change suistained fire to rending

[mighty fractal]

Swap Sustained Fire out for Rending Shockwave, Specialist Damage to Flak

Warp res is a little low, so you'll have to watch your peril

But that's not much of a problem if you run Inner Tranquility + take the peril resist nodes, and especially not if you run Shriek

[ebon pawn]

i got no blessings so ill need to farm some then :p

[tulip kettle]

yeah do it

[ebon pawn]

on my build i run bubble, and assail but i can make a build around it i suppose

[tulip kettle]

thats fine

[mighty fractal]

Bubble is fine on Trauma

It's what I usually run

[tulip kettle]

assail is kind of useless though honestly

for void / trauma i mean

[mighty fractal]

Shriek is 'optimal,' but Trauma does appreciate the breathing room that bubble and shield provide

it lets you nuke shooter packs without worry

or you can focus on the poxwalkers running at you without worrying about shooters for a bit

[ebon pawn]

this one absolutely could destroy hordes if you got in a good line of sight and could spam uncharged Rmb.

sometimes i cold spam and the peril would go down, instead of up

[tulip kettle]

well this is the other voidstrike build

but not

its like a bastardised mix

on void you kind of want surge + nexus

or flurry + transfer

flurry and transfer will let you spam out charged shots infinitely without quelling

nexus and surge lets you absolutely spam shit and hit some cool breakpoints, but peril is much more concerning

running surge without nexus feels kind of bad because youre missing 20% crit chance

[ebon pawn]

hmm i see

[tulip kettle]

running trasnfer without flurry feels kind of bad because you cant shoot charged shots very quickly to make use of the low peril generation

[ebon pawn]

depends a bit on the staff no? trauma staff would not be suited for weakspot hits, since it always explodes at their feet

[tulip kettle]

well this is on about void

[ebon pawn]

ah then yea

[tulip kettle]

trauma surge does nothing so you would never run it

trauma is either rending + flurry OR blazing + nexus

[ebon pawn]

that explains some things, thanks for the info.
ran out of plasteel so did not get rendering. ill have to play with the inferior version for now

[mighty fractal]

Keep at it, you'll get it soon enough

Thankfully, Rending is a fairly common blessing on Trauma

[limber silo]

I love that Trauma got transfer peril and surge and neither do much of anything on it

[mighty fractal]

you could also be a weird fella and run rending and blazing on the same staff

but at that point, it's really just Trauma being good at bullying hordes that will let you succeed lol

[junior linden]

holy fuck the pugatus staff is fun as fuck

like with all the soulblaze talents too

[vocal cliff]

I hate playing psyker on that wastelandy map with the final area of carrying tubes into a machinery

[mighty fractal]

Excise Vault has potentially one of the hardest finales

especially if you get two capsules in the lower area

[vocal cliff]

Vet and zel I can handle it on but psyker is just the absolute coin toss

Not to mention it took WAY to long to get even the 3rd capsule

[mighty fractal]

you can throw the capsules up onto the main platform if you jump and aim correctly, which saves you some of the trouble of escorting the dumb thing up the stairs (where ragers like to hang out)

[vocal cliff]

Team just kept getting overan

[mighty fractal]

Psyker comes in big clutch there imo

since we have so many mass crowd control options

[vocal cliff]

Best I had was a voidstrike and some cocaine crystals and a wall, It did stuff nicely but my team kept getting way too spread apart

So most of the time I had to dueling sword mk 4 them

Only time I really went down there was because a FS audio moment happened with a trapper as I was dealing with a sniper

[flint plover]

that was literally the game I was just in. only time I went down was when a silent poxburster knocked me onto a lower level with 3 ragers waiting for me

had an ogryn who refused to use the medicae, a veteran with a recon lasgun..

[upper sun]

damn sick

why would the emperor give me this?

[vocal cliff]

Complete disastrous

[flint plover]

the hipfire don't lie

[upper sun]

RUN
STAMINA
SPRINT

[vocal cliff]

Replace mind in motion talent with run and gun for staffs it'd be funny

[mighty fractal]

People holding medkits

Medkits are precious, but not THAT precious

[flint plover]

my favorite is when someone with 1 wound left dies and leaves behind a med stimm

[vocal cliff]

I drop it whenever I feel "ok with this health we're not going to get far" or in the finale

[mighty fractal]

dropping one just to top off the entire team before you move on is a good use, generally

[flint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/bongo-cat-triggered-gif-14949762

[vocal cliff]

Or if 3 of my teammates have a medic pack

[mighty fractal]

Or someone snags the med stim and then never uses it on other people

[upper sun]

with ammo crates i dont use them until at least 1 person is red and 2 are orange

[flint plover]

alternatively, when someone uses a medipack when a medicae is around the corner

[upper sun]

because no one knows how the ammo crate charges work

[mighty fractal]

"oops" in chat

[flint plover]

https://tenor.com/view/thurston-waffles-meow-scream-glowing-eyes-cat-gif-15740056

[mighty fractal]

It happens in Auric too lol

[vocal cliff]

And people will just dip their hands twice like at a buffet

[mighty fractal]

where people should generally know where the medstations are... right?

right?

[stone canyon]

I did that in previous mission, but it was monstrosity and near wipe, and i didnt see the med station was 4/4 (expected like 1/4)

[mighty fractal]

[vocal cliff]

So

[upper sun]

the worst is double tapping the medi

i stopped a person from flaming someone for doing that by saying "it spawned with 3 charges" it didnt someone was greedy

[mighty fractal]

A MOMENT TO BIND MY WOUNDS

[vocal cliff]

Team was low, on the torrent assassin map, they drop a health kit thingy

On the area where down the hall

Was the meditation

[upper sun]

MEDIKI MEDIK MEDIKI MEDICAE

[mighty fractal]

[vocal cliff]

"guys, it's literally a few steps we can make it"

Only meidpaci btw

[upper sun]

nah best part is dropping the medipack when you have two wound zealots with you

SORRY GUYS i need my weeklies

[ornate hamlet]

🧘‍♂️

[vocal cliff]

That happens to me too often

I treat em like bomber fire pits

[flint plover]

medi station medication meditation

[upper sun]

i swear with weeklies its sometimes easier to build a new char and get them to 11 than it is to do on a level 30 char

[earnest laurel]

mecidi , medici, me, MEDICE

[dim adder]

what is the rate of surge? because uhh.

im still going

[sharp shoal]

damn

if a ogryn didn't kill a bomber

i'd have had the 300 sec warp charge penance done now

i just needed that last elite

i had 15 of 16

to keep it to 300 secs

[long wharf]

rate of what, exactly? this looks like you bought a ton of void staves

[dim adder]

I bought staves and upgraded them looking for a blessing. I've spent over 1mil so far trying to get that damn blessing

[sharp shoal]

you need 4 for max

and 12 to keep it at 300

i almost had it

none of the psyker penances are to difficult as they are time consuming

[earnest laurel]

need high % stats to have better chance for it like 370 ish or whatever was it

[feral verge]

when blessing hunting, my rule of thumb is 350

if its 349 or lower, i sell it

350 or higher i upgrade it

[unique mist]

you wont get surge just from upgrading to blue

[earnest laurel]

ive gotten power sword recycler like that

and surge is just as rare

[ionic needle]

What? Why not?

[unique mist]

maybe i should rephrase

you're not likely to get surge just from upgrading to blue

[dim adder]

I've seen people with it on blue soo

iv done a few to legendary too and every time its blazing something or run and gun

[unique mist]

more likely to roll on golds

[dim adder]

and ill legit scream

[unique mist]

thats just how rng is

[dim adder]

yeah psykers rng is cursed. then need to allows us to remove guns from out loot pool. we dont want shit trash

[sharp shoal]

I got pc from blue

took a long time tho

[long wharf]

surge is one of the rarest blessings on any staff

[long wharf]

if you're upgrading from gray, don't expect to see a t4 blessing in the first blessing slot at all if the base stats aren't 370+ and the first perk isn't a t4 perk

[upper sun]

LETS GO STORE RESET GIMME A VOID STAFF

wow all awful

[long wharf]

Sour Milk strikes again

[dim adder]

sour melk gave me dog and so did robro

[upper sun]

melk sold me grimories we need to get him kicked off the morningstar

[rare mesa]

can psyker 1shot crusher with minimal setup

[upper sun]

yeah if your team gets it to 30% health first

[rare mesa]

das not 1shot

[upper sun]

yeah

[untold spindle]

same 😭

[magic kayak]

So I just tried the mkii caxe on gunker with fan revolver. wow thats fun

DD seems to be working pretty well now I guess

[static needle]

https://youtu.be/AHmZujtakPw?si=kr6x69gxVKBG6Trw&t=747 Check timestamp

[long wharf]

or just read Pygex's Psyker Atheneum

[dim adder]

all i ever get this these two

[viral flare]

what a petty thing to do lmao

[dim adder]

surge doesnt exist. you all just photoshop it

[static needle]

tis the truth tho. Smite isnt a playstyle, its an occasional tool

[dim adder]

we get run n gun, blazing spirit, warp nexus, and terrify

[viral flare]

I'm shocked that staffs are so popular that using a gun on psyker in its entirety is considered a subclass

I'm not huge on any of the staffs myself

[static needle]

kind of can be considered to be since it sometimes acts as an alternative veteran

[radiant frigate]

well, they are a psyker unique

and in vt2 sienna only had staffs

[viral flare]

I play savant psyker and it kinda just makes sense to me that he of all psykers would use a gun

[dim adder]

vt2 is still better imho. i just wish it had more incentive to work as a team.

[viral flare]

vt2 is kind of a snoozer for me

[dim adder]

i just dont like the talents in it

and they dicked on girl hard. poor sienna

[viral flare]

yeah I don't like VT2's progression in any way

[dim adder]

fucked the lore just to push a 4th class and dropped the "dad said it's okay"

[viral flare]

Whar

but yea sienna has two classes that play nearly identically and a DLC class that most people find obnoxious due to visual clutter lol

[dim adder]

humans cant do more then one wind of magic and she is just able to

[viral flare]

I don't know what that part means

[magic kayak]

gunker is actually legit

[dim adder]

Humans in fantasy cant do more then one type of magic. it fucks them up and spawns demons n shit. but they just said. well scienna can!

[viral flare]

oh well

[feral verge]

I'm not shocked

Psyker is the space wizard class

People want to be space wizards with staffs

[dim adder]

exactly. if i wanted guns id play vet. the gun guy

[flint plover]

I mean, it's not like playing a space wizard with guns is ridiculous

Destiny says it's fairly popular

[magic kayak]

you're still a wizard you just don't use a staff

my gunker actually mostly uses assail and the mkii caxe

brutal momentum is a great blessing

[cosmic sigil]

What about zealot and ogryns then? Your logic is flawed. Every class can do whatever.

[mighty fractal]

That has more to do with End Times tomfoolery than anything

e.g., Nagash screwing up the Winds of Magic so badly that every human wizard now has access to Necromancy in addition to whatever lore they knew before

[dim adder]

That's fair enough. ik end times lore is wack af

[mighty fractal]

All of the VT DLC classes are pretty out-there, except maybe Saltz and possibly Bardin

Grail Knight is the bigger asspull imo

He's not even a Grail Knight, technically

Kruber's a Questing Knight

[dim adder]

Not flawed, Ogryn is there to grief the team. they shoot every barrel, take all the ammo, and block my screen with their huge bodies.

and zealot is chainsaw man

[mighty fractal]

Yeah the End Times is all sorts of wack

some of it is cool, some of it is

questionable

[dim adder]

i agree with this yeah

[mighty fractal]

Like suddenly, anyone can aspire to be a Grail Knight just because they're related to a Bretonnian noble from two generations ago?

weird

[dim adder]

I dont like bardin's subclass because the gun just felt weak and looked like ti shot bubbles.

[mighty fractal]

Engineer is actually a lot better now

[dim adder]

i heard they fixed it like a month ago

[mighty fractal]

It was always one of the best hordeclear classes in the game

But its survivability was terrible

Now he can spawn bombs endlessly, along with a few other tweaks like a health buff that made him a lot more solid to play

Infinite bombs is super strong, and it basically acts as his crowd control/panic button

[dim adder]

yeah i loved the bomb part

[mighty fractal]

That was actually a change I had suggested years ago lol

I'm surprised it actually went through, because I never saw anyone else suggest it

Fatshark is listening...

[dim adder]

yeah they just need to remove guns from the space wizard pool or allow all classes to block weapons from being given in the shop

I havent seen a staff in my shop in weeks

[mighty fractal]

Psykers in this game should actually be doing more with their guns imo

per lore

Precognition bullets (homing/lock-on mechanic?), crit bullets that explode with warp energy, and so on

[dim adder]

well yeh

but half of the perks we get are crap and the perks dont work well

only one that i used that was nice was uhh.. i guess auto pistol

[cosmic sigil]

meet your knew op friend, the ciag

oh and laspistol + infernus + scryier / dd is excellent too

[mighty fractal]

Bardin becoming an Engineer is actually quite plausible, given how engineering has been Bardin's passion ever since he was a beardling. What's more questionable is the Engineer's Guild tolerating him becoming an unsanctioned Engineer. That and Bardin making a crankgun that hadn't been approved by the guild in the first place. Usually they spend decades reviewing patents before approving them; granted, there are other crankguns in the lore that Bardin could have copied (see: Malakai's own crankgun from the Gotrek and Felix books https://warhammerfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/Malakai_Makaisson)

And more than that, random dwarf holds selling some old manling named Lohner very expensive machine parts that the Engineer's Guild would likely want to keep secret from other races

[dim adder]

I like the columnus but gah damn get these las guns out of here

kantrael las guns

[mighty fractal]

Though Lohner does mention that it wasn't easy to get ahold of all the parts; there's a good chance Lohner had to pay through his teeth just to fund Bardin's pet project

All this, and the fact that Bardin is not exactly in good standing in the dawi community. He knows he's stepping on a lot of toes, though, and it weighs heavily on him

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/2/2a/Malakai_Makaisson.png/revision/latest?cb=20230929130211

A good coat of paint, and he could be a Kin of Votann

or maybe just an Engi from DRG

[vocal cliff]

Where is his shirt

[mighty fractal]

no need for a shirt where we're going

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammerfb/images/7/77/Doomseeker_Malakai.png/revision/latest?cb=20190420183325

[vocal cliff]

Ok in what world will you need that much facial hair

[mighty fractal]

Warhammer Fantasy

any less beard and you're either a beardling or not a true dwarf

https://tenor.com/view/bardin-vermintide-dwarf-warhammer-gif-23354885

[inland ridge]

ignoring base stat, any changes to perks and blessings?

[vocal cliff]

I'd say uncanny strike over precog

[inland ridge]

ty

[urban sandal]

having +maniac dmg will let you one tap mutants

[inland ridge]

over carapace?

[urban sandal]

up to you, mine is locked in with cara and I don't notice it doing terribly against flak, but I always use the heavy attacks

[inland ridge]

gotcha ,ty

if uncanny is good then might use this instead

better base stat

[vocal cliff]

That's a lot better

I'd slap on maniac and change rampage for something like riposte or shred or whatever works best as a secondary blessing

Keep elite damage sidenote

[inland ridge]

sweet, ty

[sharp shoal]

Just did a random melee only mael as psyker and took 0 elite melee hits 3 pc guys with mics

I appreciate Shovel gryn

Just one tapping crushers

[urban sandal]

melee maelstom is definitely my favourite as psyker

[sharp shoal]

Also a good trauma bb psyker

I'm trying to do 3 runs with 0 elite melee

That counted as one

Idk how

But that rending trauma staff

[urban sandal]

it do be a life saver

I run trauma/bb as well lol

[sharp shoal]

What blessing is rending on staff

[urban sandal]

rending shockwave

applies brittleness though

[sharp shoal]

I only got this psyker on console to 30 yesterday

Turns crushers to putty

Also

Uncanny 4 deimos atm

Only a blue

And it's a 378 power regular

Not a bad roll

Warp res dump

Bb is under appreciated

[wet belfry]

12% damage or 55% mobility?

[urban sandal]

true, but it does feel like it's lacking something compared to the other 2

I had the idea of letting bb lock onto tagged enemies through walls n shit or if you kill a mauler/crusher with it, it damages or supresses nearby enemies bc shrapnel. really any little change to it could make it feel better to use

[half turtle]

well perilous combustion is kinda like that 😐

[untold niche]

I think it's more because it doesn't generate peril as a ranged option rather than staffs being more popular

[untold niche]

If you believe in the rumors, gold weapon higher chance for t4

[half turtle]

hmm it seems to be "higher base stats" or "higher score" or something

but it's very hard to tell if it's actually true without seeing source code or like, trying 100 items or something

anyways my trauma staff is perfect so i have now transcended the need for crafting

[untold niche]

You haven't gotten bored?

[half turtle]

no

[untold niche]

I wish it was the same for me too.

[half turtle]

i have literally played almost nothing but fire trauma dueling sword bb shriek for like 300 hours of gameplay

[untold niche]

Insane dude.

You are insane.

That's so good though

[half turtle]

well i played vet or ogryn for a few hours probably when my friends were leveling

[half iron]

normal dude

[untold niche]

You don't need to spend so much money to have fun

[half iron]

you are normal

[untold niche]

I am the abnormal one?

[half iron]

we’re all normal in the gaze of my beloved

[half turtle]

tbh i just feel like there is so much skill ceiling that i have yet to access

in just this one build

[untold niche]

Really like what? Genuinely asking

[half turtle]

hmm a lot of it is just combining dueling sword mobility with trauma staff control

[untold niche]

I feel the rest of the skill ceiling was general positioning and knowing exact doors of side lanes. Those stuff that will and prob only come by by playing alot

[half turtle]

for instance, you can swap to the ds and dodge-slide, then immediately swap back to trauma to reposition quickly (you can also do this with knives)

[half iron]

i use knife in my staff builds👉👈🥺

[half turtle]

but not only that, you can swap to ds, do the dodge, then in mid dodge swap back and vent a tick before swapping back to ds to move again

[sharp shoal]

Charge rate is important on trauma

[half turtle]

there's a lot of stupid shit like this that like

i basically never need to do

[sharp shoal]

Knife is fun

[half turtle]

but probably increases my ability to put out control by like 5-10%

[half turtle]

i also did this for a while but knife isn't as good against mutants and i have no other tools to kill mutants 😦

[untold niche]

I see. But you can't do staff action during your slide though. I understand that you get a longer dodge with ds4 of course

[half turtle]

hm what do you mean by "staff action"?

[untold niche]

Quell or charge

[half turtle]

you can

[sharp shoal]

There we go

[half turtle]

you can swap ds > dodgeslide > swap staff > quell > swap ds > repeat

[untold niche]

Ds4 dodge is long enough for that? Ah.

Wait but that doesn't sound hard to do

[half turtle]

it is hard to do consistently under pressure

[half iron]

rizzful stare with looksmaxxing

[sharp shoal]

Almost 100% on psyker

[untold niche]

I see.

Also maybe because I'm not very inventive.
Needed someone to tell me that I could VS for teammates to keep horde off them. To be fair I usually just expect they can deal with them.

[half turtle]

you can also VS dogs off people through walls

it's really good

[untold niche]

I know but I usually let them take the damage

[half iron]

the deimos h2 is a drug to me

[untold niche]

Only time I waste vs through walls is to keep DD up

[half turtle]

hmm i actually almost always just VS to knock dogs if i can't hit them with anything else

[untold niche]

But yeah. I had all the habits I wanted consistent to be consistent already

[half turtle]

it drops my dps slightly but i never need VS unless things have gone extremely south

and having a teammate up makes things not that south

[untold niche]

Usually I VS mixed horde to add damage to thr PC procs

And also for breathing room

[half turtle]

yeah VS adds a ton of damage

[untold niche]

So I defo keep my VS

[half turtle]

but i'd rather have a teammate up than more damage on a bunch of ragers or whatever that i can perma-stagger either way

this is a trauma-staff specific thing though

i don't do that with voidstrike

although a lot of it is that i almost never play voidstrike

[untold niche]

Yeah. I mean unless 2 teammates are down I will just shoot the dog off the guy with my void.

[half turtle]

oh yeah 100%

[untold niche]

Like just let him eat abjt of pourple damage

[half turtle]

but if they're 20m away behind a wall

i will VS instantly every time

[untold niche]

I just take my time

[half turtle]

the way i see it teammate hp is basically extra toughness for me

[untold niche]

Flamer staggers dogs anyway, not sure for gunner. So the guy prob wouldn't get chucked too hard by doggie

[half turtle]

my experience is that technically it is true that flamer staggers dogs but as psyker when that happens i die to the fire before i can stand up most of the time anyways

probably fine for ogryn and maybe zealot tho

[half turtle]

but yeah i think a lot of it is also jsut stuff like "when do i swap to ds4 and rush this guy instead of trying to keep holding him with trauma"

which is like... complicated? because at least my build is squishy as shit

[untold niche]

You make conscious decisions like that? For me it's mostly intuitive. I sidnt even realise I purposely face tank hallways to be able to void them instead of letting them come to me ans then I lose the funnel until someone ask for tips on void

[half turtle]

and if you fuck up you take a nice chunk of damage

[grim inlet]

just spent a million dollars getting a slightly better sword bros... im gonna be sick 😭

[half turtle]

i think sometimes it's conscious and sometimes not

but being right about non-conscious decisions is also a "skill" thing i think

[half iron]

i spend millions on weapons that i hope hold blessings i want, only for it to jumpscare me like in five night freddy with an emperor’s gift

[half turtle]

but anyways sometimes i fuck it up! for reasons that are obvious in retrospect

[half iron]

hadron is a meaniehead

[untold niche]

Actually wouldn't that be threshold dependent. I.e. 2 full charge with trauma then 1 face stab with ds4 ensures crusher is dead

I don't know the exact numbers but you get what I'm trying to say

[half turtle]

and it's like, ah, that's a thing i can suck less at next time

[half turtle]

yes but it depends like, are there other crushers? disablers? are we at a cross hallway that might have 40 gunners behind it, where i expose myself to fire if i walk up to stab him? etc

etc etc

i think if there's only one guy then there's an obvious ttk optimization

which is usually to stab it in the head with ds4 until it dies

but if there's like 12 ragers and a crusher patrol and a horde with trappers behind it then it is less obvious what the optimal thing to do at each moment is

[untold niche]

I never consciously think so much xD

It's always intuitive. Once you figure out enemy block enemy gun fire then you naturally try to keep them in line. For that exact situation i don't know, what I would do is depend on what I'm feeling.
But I'm guessing after playing for a while you figure out you can stagger the crusher, then stagger the gunners then run up to the crusher and stab him then back off again

[half turtle]

oh yeah i'm not saying i'm consciously thinking about it

but i think, in actual games, that the way i handle that isn't always optimal

and when i think about what i did there are always things about how i handled it that i could have done better

[untold niche]

Even after playing like 1 month on the build?

[half turtle]

yeah

[untold niche]

I understand what you are saying. The "oh yeah I could have done that" mini eureka moments

[half turtle]

like as a measurable example i've become much more consistent on solos

over the last 200 hours of playing this build

[untold niche]

Oh you play solo?

[half turtle]

so i'm definitely still getting better at it

[half turtle]

sometimes but not always

[untold niche]

I know it's obvious but I just want to say for sake of convo xD

Solo isn't balanced at all is it.
I can't imagine having to deal with 3x ragers on voidstrike psyker

Not ragers

The mini gun ogryn

What are they called?

[wet belfry]

Solo is just an insane amount of kiting usally.

[half turtle]

reapers?

[untold niche]

Yeah reaper

[half turtle]

yeah a lot of solo is kiting, and being good about using the space you're giving up to put out damage

[untold niche]

3x reaper

[wet belfry]

It helps to have entire map layouts memorized to always know when to get out of bad situations.

[untold niche]

Even if I abuse wall as voidstrike I'm still going to get hit for quite a bit

[half turtle]

but sometimes you fuck up and run out of space (either because you moved badly or forgot the map or because you overestimated your damage or whatever)

and it's really fun

most areas of the map basically have circles you can make though, ideally with dropdowns

because enemies play a dropdown animation when you drop, or have to repath, and it makes a ton of space

[half turtle]

but yeah solo does not have great qol lol

a lot of playing psyker on solo is also alternating between crazy kiting-in-circles and really cowardly popping gunners and reapers one by one from around a corner

and like being really really thorough about completely clearing rooms because otherwise 2 guardsmen that you forgot about you will instantly strip your toughness and stun you at the worst moment

[wet belfry]

Have you tried using bubble shield?

[half turtle]

i have but i don't like it aesthetically

not because it's weak, i just don't like using it because of like

idk the flavor or some shit lol

[wet belfry]

Its pretty hilarous usally to walk up to gunners and plant a bubble in their face

[untold niche]

How do you even do the defence areas with the mini game objective solo

[wet belfry]

then melee them to death

[half turtle]

depends on the map; moving barrels isn't too bad but you often have to clear the whole spawn 2-3 times to get one barrel in

the fucking cogitators are ass and i hate them

[untold niche]

What about the interrogator + defence ones

Yeah

[half turtle]

but it's kinda the same, you can usually get a cogitator after clearing everything

i tend to just not do the cogitator ones LOL

[untold niche]

Oh.

[half turtle]

there's a mod that shows all the symbols in the cogitator minigame before you get to the row that i've considered using for those actually

[dim adder]

i think that's the myth. I've upgraded 5 now and every single one gives terror.

[slow cloak]

how exactly does supression work? initially i had terrifying barrage on my purgatus staff, then i swapped it out for warp nexus and noticed that enemies get supressed anyway without it

[half turtle]

suppression just happens when bullets fly near enemies

so basically imagine every bullet has a giant flame cloud surrounding it, that's the suppression radius and if it clips enemies it builds suppression on them

[slow cloak]

so terrifying barrage is kinda useless then?\

[untold niche]

Terror? You mean tier 3?
But five is not a good sample anyway. Not that you should trust rumours of course

[half turtle]

yeah i also like that you can just put it on a bon and then melee it to death from the front

[sharp shoal]

Yess

[half turtle]

i think it's pretty bad on purg and probably on every other staff

[sharp shoal]

Precog 4 for dueling

Finally

[half turtle]

staff lmb bolts (and purg lmb too) already produces stupid amounts of suppression

so terrifying barrage does not do that much on them

idk if there's some lasgun somewhere that you actually want it on

[dim adder]

all I ever get is terrifying barrage, run 'n' gun and blazing spirit

I have 22 staves at blue im working to upgrade one mission at a time

[slow cloak]

i thought terrifying barrage was putting in work this whole time but it seems that they get supressed without it

[half turtle]

what's the staff? void?

[slow cloak]

is there a place to see weapon stats on things like supression?

[dim adder]

Void yeah

Void shouldn't be able to get run and gun

[untold niche]

But did you get those on t4?
And yeah it seems like certain vlessingd are more common for different weapons

[half turtle]

hmm each weapon has a unique one but you might have to find a guide or look at source, not sure

[dim adder]

yes on t4

[untold niche]

Prob could find it in the lua

[half turtle]

technically it works for lmb

[dim adder]

yeah but its useless on anythin not flame staff

[half turtle]

the funny thing is that it's not even good if you're building for lmb

because surge+crit is still better

[untold niche]

I got my void including the surge blessing I had to grind for in like 12/15 gold voids iirc

[half turtle]

not that you should necessarily build for lmb btw

[dim adder]

thats what i mean

run n gun is useless is every way on psyker staves

[untold niche]

Fatshaek needs to pad out the blessing pool so you have to grind

[half turtle]

i think run n gun is one of those things (like mind in motion) that were designed by FS before we all realized how busted sliding was

[untold niche]

I feel MIM is still a QOL improvement; just that it isn't worth it

[dim adder]

I think it was designed by an ogryn

[half turtle]

game design ogryn has many years experience tho

[untold niche]

I doubt that most players not in this discord would quell slide

I'll be honest. It isn't even much of a improvement imo
I just do it because it's cool

[half turtle]

i feel like it basically doesn't matter 99% of the time but 1% of the time it is really valuable to have

[untold niche]

Even slide charge I also only do because irs cool. Most of the time you don't really want to displace yourself beyond a dodge before a shot

The only time slide actions had any impact wad when I was back pedalling a bon and I noticed the other psyker couldn't do the same

A mini bon*

Beyond that it's just to keep up with the team if there are only straggler zomvies in the area you are walking through

[grim inlet]

bros my blaze forse sword isnt doing the little pushback anymore??

when i do the mb2/mb1 combo

[untold niche]

I don't know its a must learn according to Pygex but I don't think so

[spice veldt]

the single-target knock back?

[grim inlet]

no just the normal one

ive had it happen twice tonight

i was circling around a hoarde and i got to a doorway with one regular enemy in it so i was just going to block push him out of the way and he didn't get pushed and he hit me through the block push thing

[urban sandal]

if he wasn't nurgle blessed then it could have something to do with the hotfix change to the force push on poxbursters

[grim inlet]

he wasnt nurgles blessed, and i had stamina. idk, it only happened those 2 times tonight in the worst friggin times

[untold niche]

Irs kind of bugged I think.
I once pushed a dog, there was the stagger anim but midway through it, he pounced me right after lol

Game jank

I was using illisi as well

[latent hill]

So… is rending shockwave good for trauma staff?

[urban sandal]

yes

especially when paired with warp flurry

[latent hill]

Hmm…

Hhh, it’s just a godamn shame that I got 10% weak spot damage on it

I’m tempted to replace it but I got 20%damage on unyielding and I really…REALLY want to upgrade that

[urban sandal]

you're barely going to notice the 5% difference, if it all

it won't help you hit any breakpoints

[latent hill]

Well what can I replace?

[urban sandal]

weakspot damage is borderline useless on trauma because you're hitting their feet with the aoe

[latent hill]

Right…

What should I replace it with if anything?

[urban sandal]

flak

[latent hill]

So 545 it is then

Warp flurry 4 I’ll need to find then

Good lord

[urban sandal]

I was stuck with warp flurry 2 until level 100 or so

[eager token]

lots of very strange ppl playing tonight

[grim inlet]

which blessings do yall run with for deimos? The only 4th tier i have unlocked is unstable power, i have 3rd tier riposte, shred, executor, and slaughterer.

I just consecrated my new sword (379) and it haze blazing spirit 3 and superiority 3, along with 1.5 stamina, and 20% damage to unarmoured. With those blessings, what are yall thinking i should do?

[lyric burrow]

uncanny/slaught

ive also heard uncanny/executor

but havent tested that one personally

[grim inlet]

unfortunately i don't have uncanny at all :/

[lyric burrow]

i would hunt for it then

its by far the best blessing for it

[grim inlet]

i have been but i'm out of plasteel and it simply would not give it to me

[lyric burrow]

slaught/unstable will probably be fine till you get it

the deimos you listed is sadly pretty bricked

best case would be slaught/maniac probably

keep unarmored

[grim inlet]

i know :/ i was excited when i got it and with every consecration i became more sad

[lyric burrow]

replace blazing

if your stuck using that one

[grim inlet]

my current sword that i'm using. ( i got it before i knew how to earn blessings and that you could only refine/rebless 2 times) has riposte and unstable power but i did the perks because they were awful. so im stuck with those blessings on it

thanks for your input 🫀

[lyric burrow]

np

it can be rough getting what you want lol

[grim inlet]

so frustrating. i probably have spent like 10k plasteel trying to get uncanny

[lyric burrow]

yeah thats kinda how it is unfort

[flint aspen]

fatshark implementing gacha mechanics in a crafting system

lmao

[grim inlet]

lmao

[urban sandal]

I just use melk and mission rewards for blessings, fuck spilling thousand of plasteel down the toilet

[grim inlet]

bro i literally have never seen uncanny from anything

i almost believe it doesn't exist lmao

[latent hill]

I feel uncanny deflector would be nice.

[eager token]

uncanny deflector gang

block efficiency probably not needed but tanking demonhosts is fun

[grim inlet]

awesome sword

gimme

[half turtle]

wow

[half turtle]

like doing things during your slide?

i think if you don't play solos (or aren't clutching i guess) you basically don't need to, yeah

in solos you basically have to because otherwise you're never charging anything up ever again/never manually venting again if you get a chaos spawn or even a plogryn with a mixed horde

(obviously not never but it's a lot harder to just stand still and vent in those situations)

[near wyvern]

If you upgrade to orange it seems you get around 1 T4 blessing for every 4 or 5 weapons with base stats of 370+. It will take time to look for a specific T4 blessing.

[teal terrace]

Melk giving me something actually godlike for once

[plucky flax]

Put dumdum on it

[teal terrace]

don't have it

[plucky flax]

Time to spend some plasteels

[tidal scaffold]

it took me this long to figure out how assail targetting works, that they attack wahtever your cursor is looking at not at what you were looking at when you left click, my assail efficincey and effectiveness just went WAY up

[ornate hamlet]

WHAT?! That's so good

[tidal scaffold]

i was like yea they hit the first guy but then they just kinda do whatever (me looking at nothing wondering why the shards arent going after other shit

[untold niche]

bro, god bless.

[urban sandal]

I'm good now

[urban sandal]

great blessings but those perks hurt

[grim inlet]

i know 😦

[urban sandal]

similar situation going on with my blazing trauma

[grim inlet]

on my blazing trauma i have 20%unyielding, increased crit 5%, blazing spirit 3 and warp nexus 4 377/527

[plucky flax]

RIP

[untold niche]

TIL blazin only has up til t3

[plucky flax]

I'd go unyielding flak over unyielding crit chance.

Flak is too good on trauma and surge staff.

[grim inlet]

cant change it :/

[wind spruce]

Flak is just non negotiable on trauma bc so many targets burn as flak

[urban sandal]

and some enemies like dreg gunners actually have flak armour on their legs

I just ran into another psyker that has the exact same fashion as me

[wind spruce]

Yep all gunners, shotties, maulers and 3/4 shooters burn as flak

[sterile grove]

my fellow wizards and wizardess, is the mk2 sabre good or is the mk 5 sabre better (ignoring mk4)

[olive patrol]

New to psyker and about to hit level 30. I've been having a lot of fun with BB, Venting shriek, purgatus staff, and the mk IV dueling sword. What perks should I be looking for on these weapons? On my staff rn, I have Warp Nexus and warp flurry with Flak and crit as the perks. Dueling sword has Uncanny strike and Shred with Carapace and flak. Anything I should change?

[grim inlet]

i just got 379 trauma from brunts. hoping whenever i acquire enough plasteel ill get lucky 🥲

had enough to consecrate once and i got sprint effeciency lol

[lethal lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

You can post specific weapons here for advice

But for general stuff like that, the guide is good

Also, generally speaking, popular builds online are ass.

So you can post your skill tree for advice too using darktide build creator or something.

[wind spruce]

If you are going to ignore mk IV (God knows why) then definitely take the mk V. Atleast it has improved mobility and isn't a straight downgrade

[wind spruce]

+2 stamina will give you more block efficiency than block efficiency

This video demonstrates the peril generated with 36% block efficiency vs + 3 stamina
https://outplayed.tv/media/EwN7lO

[inland ridge]

even if u have the peril block?

[wind spruce]

Especially if you have the peril block

[inland ridge]

ah good to know, ty

[wind spruce]

Look at the video I just posted

[urban sandal]

kinetic deflection scales with your stamina

[tame venture]

https://youtu.be/VL7BWzdKRaQ

this guy argues heavily for block eff though

idk where's the best example of it tho

[sterile grove]

ignoring a weapon already means i know theyre too good

and i like to be different !!!

[wind spruce]

Fair play

Well mk V is different and very cool

Highest mobility in the game

[wind spruce]

Tanner isn't right about everything, and this is just pure maths lol. Stamina gives you more efficient blocks when using Kinetic Deflection, and at a higher rate than block efficiency

The video I just posted very clearly demonstrates this.

[north dock]

saw a smite psyker just smite enemies with high dmg, wonder whats the build

it was venting shriek cd

[inland ridge]

damn that is super useful info ty, tested +6 stam and 34% block efficiency and chaos spawn raises the peril 1-2% each hit which is nothing lol

even rager at that point does 1% peril haha

I would've never thought a psyker could stall 5 ragers at the same time but kinetic deflection is insane

[wind spruce]

It's pretty bonkers eh

Personally I think one +3 stam curio is more efficiency on blocks than you'll ever need

And I always recommend adding more stam before taking block efficiency perks

[inland ridge]

gotcha, currently planning on 2xtoughness 1xstamina with substats block efficiency, stamina regen and combat ability regen. Hopefully not missing something important

[cosmic sigil]

at that point i'd rather have block eff on a weapon and have more hp or tg on my curios

[wind spruce]

No this is my point. You're better off taking 2 stam curios and toughness perks

2 stam curios is more efficient than 1 stam curio and block efficiency

[inland ridge]

i see ,ty

[cosmic sigil]

and with that pool and your base stam regen

you can afford not taking stam regen on curios

so more hp and tg

you won't tank a dh every mission

but you'll face billions of gunners, shooters, horde...

[inland ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-clueless-clueless-emote-wojak-disturbed-gif-24266075

playing with Dueling sword kinda jealous of force swords deflector

laughing at the faces of the gunners and shooters

[cosmic sigil]

i prefer playing duelling or knive with bubble yeah

not that always do that but it can help

i did a 3 bubble psyker last week

that was fun we were chaining the bubble along the way