psyker-class

[rapid bear]

(Or Blazing Spirit?)

[long wharf]

transfer peril always worked

on void

[rapid bear]

Oh nice! So on the secondary attack, you can basically just mass headshot things and never get peril? 😛

[long wharf]

as long as you hit weakspots

[steep estuary]

Deflector + Kinetic Deflection, then walking in front of an Ogryn with a big gun is... oddly satisfying

[rapid bear]

Hmm... higher quell speed tied to 5% more unyuielding and my choice of 5% higher something else (I could replace unarmoured with Flak and Sustained Fire with Tranfer Peril on the left-hand one)...

3.14/1.27 on left blast radius, vs. 3.69/1.33 on the right.

I feel like quell is the dump, and the ~5% damage increase to Unyielding and Flak probably isn't worth losing a full metre of blast circumference on the projectile.

[wind spruce]

There has been some chatter about blast radius being the dumpstat on void because higher blast radius makes it more difficult to hit weakspots

But I am not an expert on this theory

[rapid bear]

That's part of what I was wondering about it, honestly.

I have both options, but it's hard to say if the higher blast would end up being a liability.

[wind spruce]

Ima have a play in the psykhanium and see if I can feel a difference

[rapid bear]

I didn't feel any particular difficulty triggering Transfer Peril in the Psykarnium on the higher blast, but of course those mobs are stationary.

[prime elk]

I thought it was just more the blast radius being negligible

[wind spruce]

Someone was specifically talking about hitting weakspots but i cant confirm

I'm testing it atm and it seems about as easy to hit headshots with an 80% BR as with a 38%

[rapid bear]

It feels like weakspots are the priotized hitreg though, doesn't it?

[wind spruce]

you'd think so

[wheat seal]

this is for console player or game pass ?

[urban sandal]

both

[long wharf]

the higher blast radius is meaningless due to the value range

you'll barely notice the difference between a blast radius of 50 and 80

it's [2..4]

[wind spruce]

The question is whether a higher blast radius has a negative effect on hitting weakspots

[long wharf]

no

blast radius isn't the size of the projectile

[wind spruce]

People just talking trash then, sweet

[long wharf]

it's the maximum AoE radius

[wind spruce]

The epicentre radius is also listed as variable

[long wharf]

is it?

[wind spruce]

Yes

[long wharf]

I've literally never cared about blast radius

and I'm on my vet at the moment

[long wharf]

that must be full damage radius

[wind spruce]

id assume so

[long wharf]

look at the value range

it's miniscule

[wind spruce]

i realise that lol

[potent echo]

It's hard to notice

Just run the weapon, it won't feel different

[wind spruce]

You're missing the point

[long wharf]

epicenter is max damage radius value for the blast

just like on trauma

nothing to do with projectile collision size

[potent echo]

It actually does

Source: some discord guy

[long wharf]

the collision size of the projectile is set by the projectile template

in all my time digging through Darktide's templates and weapon blessings, I've never seen one modify its projectile template

[wind spruce]

I haven't made any conclusions lmao

[potent echo]

The projectile size isn't related to hitbox size though

[long wharf]

sigh

[potent echo]

Or something or another, if you shoot a charged ball at a shooter behind cover, somehow you can clip the head

[wind spruce]

Ok. Then the person was saying that it affects hitting weakspots was wrong.

Chill out lmao

[potent echo]

I'm sure you have seen that

[long wharf]

yes, that's well known behavior

because the projectile's collision size is larger than the visual size

[potent echo]

So how does that work

[long wharf]

been like that since release

also affects how you shoot around geometry

[potent echo]

But the collision size should affect its collision with the cover right

The only thing that makes sense to me is that there's a seperate hitbox thats bigger than it's collision box 🤷‍♂️

[wind spruce]

Nope, only the pinpoint middle hits cover, the rest of the projectile can move through objects

thats how it hits gunners etc behind cover

[long wharf]

the code is probably doing an enemy-in-area check per frame

I wouldn't be surprised to see that be the case, anyways

[ornate hamlet]

I guess it's like TF2 bounding boxes

Where the projectile can somehow hit you from weird angles because of the bounding box

[sage plaza]

Roll for orange of a decent Claw
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFU-

sigh

So these blessings suck ass...

[urban sandal]

no they don't

block efficiency for flak then decide whether to change unarmoured to whatever or savage sweep or shred to rampage

[sage plaza]

Ok they don't suck, but they weren't what I had hoped to get

Nah I'm keeping Block Efficiency because my psyker builds all have the feat that generates peril in place of using stamina for blocking.

[urban sandal]

fair but you definitely want flak damage on dclaw

[sage plaza]

Any particular reason?

I know lots of enemies have flak- what I mean is, does dclaw have weak flak damage?

[urban sandal]

doesn't do much damage to flak unless you're using a strikedown attack

[sage plaza]

Ahhhh, Ok will do that

Ok thinking on it now, Savage Sweep III isn't that bad at all

it could be better

But as it is, it's fine

Ok unarmoured to flak, and Shred to Rampage IV.

Thank you!!

[dark carbon]

top psyker build right now? assume ridiculous aim if that matters, I only have so much plasteel don't want to upgrade stuff I don't need

also has to be fun, this'll be for auric damnations

[ornate hamlet]

IAG and right tree

The damage is classified as "the big funny"

[proven crest]

alternatively, trauma dueling sword

you can kinda just wade into every pack of melee elites

[dark carbon]

thanks boys!

[wet belfry]

I think the actual top build right now for psyker is trauma staff, though CIAG isnt that bad

Ive personally found that using a staff with strong horde clear frees up the melee weapon to be more single, mobility focused. With the latter being very helpful in runs. This leads to weapons like duelling sword, deimos, knife being good.

Trauma also has an LMB attack which isnt awful for killing specials or other small things if nessecary. It has a surpisingly high stagger value.

Im also pretty sure the LMB outdpses many of the blitz abillties that psyker has.

[dark carbon]

what blitz/still right side of tree with trauma ?

[lunar oracle]

what are the most/least important modifiers on Trauma staff?

[dark carbon]

I just ran one with right side (only lvl 24ish) dmg seemed high I liked it

[wet belfry]

Trauma doesnt work well until level 30

Its way to reliant on modifers

[dark carbon]

I am just running auto til 30

[wet belfry]

Damage is the least important'

Charge rate > blast radius > warp resistance > quell speed > damage

[lunar oracle]

oooh just rolled this one

aaaand bricked

[wet belfry]

Blitz doesnt matter alot with trauma whatever works.

I just dont recommend using a blitz abillty in a way that would do the same job as trauma does.

For example dont make assail into horde clear.

Examples of trauma skill trees

Left one is less safe, goes for more dps, while right is safer with less dps.

[urban sandal]

you want damage, charge rate and blast radius as high as possible

damage is less important if you're going for a blaze trauma but still good to have

[wind spruce]

Kinetic flayer

[wet belfry]

It might not be as awful as initially thought of.

[wind spruce]

It is

And you mean initially

[wet belfry]

ye

sorry

[wind spruce]

It's hot garbage

[wind spruce]

What are you using assail for in the RHS build?

[wet belfry]

Stuns, killing specials.

Also minor usage on killing gunners.

It can also give asap toughness.

[wind spruce]

Why no top modifier for it?

[wet belfry]

I didnt find the subtalents worth it for the amount of usage it sees.

[wind spruce]

Is this for blaze trauma?

[wet belfry]

I will check later more about kinetic flayer

actually crunch some numbers regarding it.

[wet belfry]

ye

[wind spruce]

What numbers are there to crunch?

[wet belfry]

How fast does a staff shoot for example on lmb?

[wind spruce]

Riiiight

[wet belfry]

Becuase the faster it shoots the more chances to trigger it on an ideal target.

Theres also asking how often does it hit good targets in mixed hordes.

[wind spruce]

That would be interesting

Why would you take 5% TDR over 5% ranged damage

[wet belfry]

Its likely a mistake

[wind spruce]

Are you a bubble holder or someone who drops it on cooldown most of the time?

[wet belfry]

I play that build more like a semi zealot.

Problem with shooters? Just run up to them and plant a shield in their face.

If i also get overwhelmed with specials i will plant the shield.

[wind spruce]

You're just missing so much free damage

No empyrean empowerment

[wet belfry]

Pure DPS is cool but not always the endgame.

Otherwise zealots would be out of a job.

Hell i just did a true solo on auric today with a zealot, thats due to the classes absurd mobility.

[untold niche]

Did you try to find it again after this? Am still quite curious about headshot priority :p

[wind spruce]

Combat swords

"combatsword"

[sage plaza]

Guys, need another weapon consultation

I need to choose between either of these.
I know what blessings need replacing, that's not the issue. Which one is functionally better?

Never used a Surge staff before.

As well, which damage type should I go for? Carapace, Flak, or Maniac?

[hazy wagon]

Is this good and if so what should i reroll on it?

[idle plover]

Seems really good

[sage plaza]

iirc ther's also a blessing thaty gives more crit chance on hits

[hazy wagon]

what about riposte for crit chance?

[sage plaza]

It's already on your sweord there

[hazy wagon]

so i should stack more?

[sage plaza]

I mean, it's already very crit-centric

It's up to you.

Rending is handy for flak and carapace.

[onyx sentinel]

is the blue syringe still bugged?

[sage plaza]

still looking for input on this, btw

[near wyvern]

Riposte requires a successful dodge which in turns requires an enemy to successfully go though their attack animation while aiming at you.

If they get staggered and thus interrupted riposte won't trigger.

[worldly iron]

siblings

making Cancer Gun

its for Gunpsyker crit builds

will test it now for Auric

[wind spruce]

Shred requires you to attack 5 times before you get the same crit % as Riposte and not miss.

Riposte triggers when dodging ranged attacks, mutant charges, hounds, etc, allowing you to begin many relevant engagements with the full benefit.

I'd argue it's at least as good if not much better in most situations as Shred

[near wyvern]

You want surgical + hand cannon on it so you can 3 tap crushers

[near wyvern]

Given how fast shred stacks up it's extremely easy to get it stacked. Mutants, hounds etc are not an issue. The main benefit of Shred is consistent DPS against Plague Ogryns and triggering empathetic evasion & mettle when diving ranged packs or hordes.

And to add, you should stop the mutant anyways with the special to prevent it from running into the team, which doesn't trigger riposte

[wind spruce]

It's also easy to dodge ranged attacks and melee attacks to keep up riposte while your diving ranged packs and hordes. If you're in melee with a plague ogryn and dodge it's stomp you'll trigger riposte.

[wind spruce]

And when you're facing six mutants or a mutant along with a bunch of other stuff pulling off this high-skill move is more easily said than done.

[plucky flax]

I use both.

[ornate hamlet]

Riposte has the issue of needing the game to grace you with a dodge proc

It's a great effect, but it really shits on you when it doesn't trigger

[plucky flax]

Then sometimes you get random triggers.

All is balanced

[hearty oak]

Honestly, not even a cancer gun. I never see it anymore

[wind spruce]

The game "graces" you with a dodge proc all the damn time, though. Sniper shots, shotgunners shots, trapper nets, hounds, mutants, shooters, everything in melee except ragers. It's proccing a ridiculous amount.

[hearty oak]

How much of a difference am i looking at for having a 70% blast radius for blazing trauma?

[ornate hamlet]

Not to me

I've managed to fight a plague ogryn without triggering riposte once

Wasn't lack of trying either

[urban sandal]

makes a bigger difference than you realise

ideally you want 78+

[plucky flax]

Ideally you want 80%.

[wind spruce]

Yeah ideally you want 80%. Like, by definition.

[plucky flax]

Imagine blaze trauma with 100% all stats.

1s charge time or whatever.

Room-sized blast radius.

[wind spruce]

25 warpfire on hit

No crit needed

[plucky flax]

My psyker is nearly level 500.

497 now.

This steam name is not sus at all.

[wind spruce]

i am become knife zealot
https://outplayed.tv/media/5KN5Jz

[wind spruce]

I think I'm like 600 now

mods been off for a tick

[proven crest]

i feel like people overestimate the amount of successful dodge procs you actually get in this game

but it's difficulty to know for sure without like, going through recordings and measuring uptime

[wind spruce]

my favourite part is critting the mutant for 3,3k through the crowd with push stab and no mutie damage perk

[proven crest]

like, in this clip riposte triggers 4 times

and isn't up for the first half of the fight

imagine if it was precog and you were only getting 2 seconds per trigger

[wind spruce]

firstly, its not precog. i have imagined that and its why i would never recommend it

second, yeah, it didnt trigger until 9s in, but then it was consistently up the whole fight. the duelling sword heavy stab hits one target max, if that target gets killed as youre swinging at it, boom, no stacks of shred

[proven crest]

i feel like shred uptime is dependent on something you do all the time and have control over, whereas on dodge proc stuff is often out of your control

if you're ccing enemies, or funelling them through a choke, or just not being targeted, you're not getting value out of on proc stuff

whereas on attack stuff you are

how long does shred last actually?

[wind spruce]

People like agency over their mechanics, which i get

[wind spruce]

I'm not sure

its 3.5s

same as uncanny

[proven crest]

i don't think that riposte is bad, especially with the generous 6 second uptime

gotcha

it's mostly the eternal question of which 2nd knife blessing is best

which like, i have no idea

[wind spruce]

the debate isnt over the knife

its over DS

knife cant get shred

[proven crest]

well, for me it's mostly about measuring the value of proc on dodge stuff

which is applicable to multiple weapon types

but i appoligize if i was butting into a different conversation

[wind spruce]

nah not at all man

keep it going

[wind spruce]

i was just reacting to this

for that question id argue ill take a riposte thats up only some of the time over any of the other blessings, primarily because of empathetic evasion

id agree that, in general, proc on dodge stuff is overvalued by some because people dont realise its not proccing as much as they thought

but not in the case of riposte vs shred

its also a matter of what are you using the DS for? if you're using it on trauma staff you're just daft to take shred. what are you using it on? specials and crushers. That's it. Dogs and mutants are guaranteed procs and crushers basically are too.

[proven crest]

i would agree with that

[deep pine]

Issue: Damage felt lackluster and compared to surge staff my movement felt very hampered. On surge staff I'm used to dodge sliding all over the place, charging, quelling, etc..,

I tried 3 games as disrupt destiny + bubble and 3 or 4 as warp siphon + bubble. Warp Siphon felt better, DD felt like poop to me.

[proven crest]

there are situations where the immediate greater returns of riposte are more important

[wind spruce]

i would word it as riposte being the one with immediate greater returns (given how shred isnt at max until attack number six)

but do elaborate

[proven crest]

sorry i mispoke

edited

[wind spruce]

nw

[wind spruce]

quite a nice tune

[wind spruce]

Can't believe push attack on the knife has so much cleave

[strong gulch]

pewp

[rigid sky]

Hadron betrays you

[strong gulch]

ye

[plucky flax]

Nooooo

[untold niche]

Send full build

void can do slide charge and slide quell too.
But usually with void after you stand up still need charge a tiny bit yeah.

Try DD with venting shriek
DD right, what I do is take the extended time one, then focus on rushing to 15 ( unless there is an actual threat)
Once you hit 15, important to know that just hitting the target will refresh stack. Venting shriek also work.
This mean once you hit 15, get used to thr time of 7? seconds at halfway mark of buff duration just shoot an uncharged lmb at whatever blue guy if you don't want to waste time charging to kill him.
You basically have normal kill priority, just that you need to adjust to changing priority every around 10 seconds

These are my thresholds:
Everything is headshot, you should never body shot on void
Crusher surge proc 1 tap
Gunner only on 15 DD max charge headshot, else half charge twice
Rager two time half charge, no matter DD stack ( likely because I'm running maniac), surge proc one taps even on half charge.

Horde I half charge, but on full DD stack you can do 20% ~ 30%

I personally almost never do lmb.
Lmb usually for spamming at rager.
( deals very good suppression)

Need to be very proactive with VS. If you see big horde, or teammate struggling, use your VS.
Usually if mixed horde and I'm feeling generous I do VS into smite.
Else just VS and stack PC.

I run illisi as well, so on defence areas I clear immediate horde with illisi then swap to void.

Void you can tank 1 hit no problem if you can kill the guy.

Void you only uncomfortable with many gunner. Usually what I do is stick near Wall, pre charge, shoot then dodge back into wall.
If you in the open and feeling gangster you can just spam AD dodge.

I tried surge staff. It strong because it do damage very fast.
But compared to void, no stagger ( voidstrikr stagger fall rager if no die) and no horde clear

What I do is I play front line, so when rager come I can line them up.
Don't care what other people say, impossible to get all at once. But getting 2 is still better than just one.

With context of above, I play ballsy. Imo you should try it.
Now I see 3 crusher 2 rager at 2m I'm not scared, because I know what void can do exactly.

Better than rager aggro your teammate and then you need shoot perpendicular

People don't like DD because at the start you will tend to hyperfocus on the blue colour target. But once you play long enough you realise you just need to find blue guy every half of buff duration

Void psyker the only people who outdo me seem to be vet who actually know what they are doing. Very strong. Your "real" weakness is only immediate horde.

The more your track your peril and CD, the better you will get as well. Its just a play more thing.

Also, personally +2 stam and +3 stam legit no diff

[onyx sentinel]

wake up babe new essay just dropped

[wind spruce]

It's a good essay tho

[untold niche]

Thanks dude.

[wind spruce]

Link ur talent tree/build?

[untold niche]

OK 1 sec
The curio perk not entirely accurate, because I'm too lazy to grind for last perk

[wind spruce]

Fair

[untold niche]

upload exact weapons in a bit
but:
illisi with deflector 4 and the other meta blessing that makes horde clear easier (forgot name)
voidstrike: cara+maniac, surge+nexus

curios:
+3 stam, toughness, toughness
x3 CDR, x3 toughness regen (i used to run bomber resist instead of toughness regen xD)

cookie cutter build

don't take EE because with void you don't proc it as much, imo waste of node on void

oh yeah, this node is underrated
its quite insane

most people take it by default but i never see anyone gush over it

make sure you abuse that

[wind spruce]

One of the best single nodes on any class imo

[deep pine]

ok nice man I will try it again, will send you DM full build when I do it. I am leveling my zealot now (gotta get them melk bucks).

Regarding surge horde clear, I actually find it very strong. With 4+ stacks of warp siphon, +venting +wildfire, you can melt an infinite sized horde fast.

I only have a flurry/nexus void staff atm - still trying to find surge.

[untold niche]

hmmm. then maybe surge better than void
i only tried it in psk, not too sure.
its funny for me to watch 3 rager vanish with void

also context, i peril edge. so not sure if those thresholds will be different at say 10%

fun tip is, voidstrike stagger boss on weakshot

plorgyn

funny time bro

[deep pine]

yeah I play like that on surge also, stay between 75~100

[untold niche]

oh then uh, from 80:
half charge you can do twice. if you do once, quell one tick
Full charge can only do once
from 100 peril quell 2 tick to 80

[untold niche]

voidstrike you really need to push it to max limit else you will just feel its shit imo

[wind spruce]

This isn't really the surge staff doing it ita creeping flames, and also the warp charges (I assume you mean warp charges when you say 4 stacks of warp siphon?) don't make any difference there

[deep pine]

not brag or anything like that but this is typical game on surge staff for me

[plucky flax]

[deep pine]

fair yeah, that's true.

But how does voidstaff play with warp siphon compared to DD?

[wind spruce]

I really like the build

Idk why I haven't tried void with DD much yet

[untold niche]

the thresholds alot you can't do. i can't remember which exactly. but i distinctly remember not worth running warp build with void

[wind spruce]

Actually I do know why, because I get stuck on single builds for literal months haha

[plucky flax]

This + cdr aura + 6 warp charges is how I spam creeping flames.

[deep pine]

do you play all 4 calss though?

[wind spruce]

I do not

[plucky flax]

My lowest class is ogryn at lvl 279.

[untold niche]

void, your top 5 would be yellow, or at least top 3

[plucky flax]

But I mostly play zealot and psyker only.

[wind spruce]

Because they are the best

[deep pine]

😮 those damage across all team, that must be Auric?

[plucky flax]

Top 1% psyker. Maybe top 50% zealot.

[untold niche]

yeah

void really familiarity important
could be coincidence but i doubt so, after i went to play zealot, i lose my first 5 games on psyker

[plucky flax]

I haven't lost a game in a week.

Why u so bad

[untold niche]

this one is the first win after those 5 loses

[deep pine]

I'm trying to get all class level up and get some endgame hours on them to better understand the game.

[untold niche]

if you flame me more i will personally go to fatshark office and request they nerf blaze trauma

[plucky flax]

[untold niche]

[deep pine]

so far Surge staff pysc and CIAG vet are my fav

[plucky flax]

But blaze trauma is incredibly bad.

Even people on youtube said so.

[untold niche]

[deep pine]

Trauma staff way to clunky, I don't like it.

[wind spruce]

Who the f saying it's bad on youtube

[untold niche]

columnus too meta for me
just shoot and stuff die
so boring

[wind spruce]

Trauma staff is love

[plucky flax]

On all my blaze trauma video. Xd

[wind spruce]

Is life

[plucky flax]

"This is bad play rending instead" -- something like that.

[untold niche]

i should start commenting o nur videos agent

[plucky flax]

Which is fair. I hope they buff the really bad blaze trauma.

[untold niche]

mix some bad comments with good ones

[wind spruce]

People obsessed with rending

[deep pine]

isn't that all good vet builds ?D:

[untold niche]

then maybe he will screenshot my comment

[wind spruce]

When duotide dropped the blaze trauma build months ago

No one believed the hype

[plucky flax]

I would consider rending if it increases my own trauma damage significantly, like how rending works for vet guns or ogryn melee weapons.

[untold niche]

thats why i don't play vet
pfoom pfoom gun + psword worst shit
that fucking build make majority of SEA vet i see on auric not know how do push poxyb / dodge dogs

[plucky flax]

But trauma already deal nearly max damage. So rending become support for teammates.

And I don't care team.

[wind spruce]

I genuinely like it on melee only mael

[deep pine]

I have a really good power sword but I prefer play with devil claw

[wind spruce]

Flame them crushers out

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma is so much better in that.

[untold niche]

fucking psword charge then everything die

might as well use cheats bro

[plucky flax]

You kill all the maulers and ragers.

And bulwarks.

Crushers you can use melee weapons for them.

[wind spruce]

But you don't need the six initial stacks anyway

[plucky flax]

You can aim at the elites only and all the chaffs die

[wind spruce]

Just bleed them with CF

[plucky flax]

From 6 burns

[wind spruce]

Meh they die either way

With so many elites dying

[untold niche]

oh yeah orc

i defo don't think you should do this

[plucky flax]

Tru

[untold niche]

but sometime when my DD running out in next second

and i see blue guy behind i wall i waste a VS

[wind spruce]

The way I look at it is melee only means they are all bunched up in a much higher concentration, which means CF and PC are hitting a higher % of chaff

[wind spruce]

Haha it happens I'm sure

[untold niche]

oh yeah @deep pine don't waste too much time switching to melee and wiating for doggie to come to you,
just swap to melee and shove on react

most of time when i shove doggie i can't even see it

[plucky flax]

I have played melee only against a rending trauma guy.

If anything he buffed my damage.

I did so much more.

[untold niche]

but did you threshold change :v

[wind spruce]

And half the time I'm opening with a CF earlier than I'm landing two crits from trauma

In order to benefit from the CDR and extra warp charges

[wind spruce]

Maybe you're just better

[untold niche]

rending is brittleness right?
if you do it on a crusher how much more damage he will receive?

[wind spruce]

Idk like 20% more from your trauma, and a shit load more than that from the flames

[untold niche]

why do people like rending trauma then :v

[wind spruce]

It used to be the meta

[plucky flax]

'Support'

[untold niche]

on god roll builds 20% don't change any thresholds other than super specific stuff like minigun/bulwark

[wind spruce]

So there's hangover from that

[plucky flax]

Same reason people like smite.

[untold niche]

or like against ragers/gunners when you don't have your buff

you sacrificing your DPS just to help team do 20% more damage

very meme

[wind spruce]

Tbf, your team might be getting a bit more out of it than that, but that's only if they know to make use of it

And now that rending is so easy to come by for vets

It's not worth

[untold niche]

percentages doesn't stack
you doing 20 damage 5 times is same as you doing 100 damage 1 time
in the end still just 20% more damage

[wind spruce]

Idk why that's relevant, what I mean is that most of the time people won't make use of the rending, because when attacking high armour targets they are going to use weapons that already have high penetration, etc

[untold niche]

ahhh

sorry misunderstood you

[untold niche]

ngl i would do so too
how would i know enemy is brittled

[wind spruce]

It takes a coordinated group to realise you should actually pull out your columnus to deal with the crusher if it has the stacks of brittleness from trauma

[wind spruce]

Exactly

I'd know because mods

Debuff indicator go brrrrr

[untold niche]

nobody in their right mind would use their dinky stuff to whack the crusher for 70 damage

[spice veldt]

dclaw gaming

a vfx for brittled enemies would be nice

[untold niche]

this reminds me, i don't even know how people play this game before p13

so little skill, skill every 5 level

i would smash my screen

[spice veldt]

90% of weapons being dogshit

ogryn melees having bodyshot priority

[wind spruce]

I miss old warp charges

[spice veldt]

peak darktide gaming

[potent echo]

except shield, because

[deep pine]

That's why I played a lot in beta and then quit 2 weeks after launch, last game I ever preordered.

[onyx sentinel]

Can you run Surge without warp siphon?

Never used it

[spice veldt]

gaming

[leaden mulch]

do smite lightning storm work properly (jump+1)? cus when i test it i dont see the different

[wind spruce]

It's detectable on LMB smite but not so much on RMB

[untold niche]

xD
i played in open beta and stopped afterliek what 2 game

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

[leaden mulch]

do you use lmb? because i dont

maybe i use it wrong

[wind spruce]

I use it to stop specials in there tracks before I go in for the kill but that's about it

Interrupting hounds, flamers and trappers

But honestly not often

[potent echo]

there are very few situations where you cant spare 0.8seconds to charge

[wind spruce]

Exactly

[plush oak]

Smite is kinda a meme anyways

[patent wing]

u know that u carry the game when u insta lose when u dc for 10 sec

[spice veldt]

you bitch

[hearty dagger]

Very simple

We suffered

After you only had the Obscurus to work with, the Illisi and Deimos really do feel like godsends

[coarse elbow]

I played the game for like 20 hours before the big skill change

It was truly nightmarish

That's an exaggeration but it really wasn't very fun on launch

[radiant frigate]

i played about 100 hours before talent trees

leveled everything to 30

would you believe that ogryn was trash back then?

[viral flare]

yea i would

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

[untold niche]

i think w9uld have saved the fifty dollars and just play l4d2 for free (though perosnally i dont dont like l4d2)

[hearty dagger]

What

Young man i have no idea what you just said

[stuck sinew]

I'm assuming changing both blessings is the call on this?

[plush oak]

Nah deflector is good. Id say go for unstable power instead of executor

[plucky perch]

dlector aint alike op or anyhting but i like it, executer is outdne by slaughter usualy es[ecialy on a deimos and illisi

[stuck sinew]

Yeah was gonna change that regardless, lvl 2 no thanks

[stuck sinew]

why unstable? it stacks to less than slaughterer or Executor and is harder to maintain?

[plush oak]

Depends how u use the deimos

Usually its used to nuke 1 enemy then switch to staff or blitz

[stuck sinew]

I use it more as a general backup for hordes/elites

I use DS for switch 'n poke

usually on gun builds

where I'm not using ranged 24/7

[plucky perch]

slaughter all the more then especialy if cleaving hordes

though if you want to focus on its spexials theres a specfic blessing that REALY suits diemos

[stuck sinew]

bloodthirsty?

[plucky perch]

lemme look it up

wait no

my mistake it IS executor

[plush oak]

Prolly not t2 tho

Honestly im running slaughterer + unstable power on deimos

[plucky perch]

lil mechanic every channeled hit that leads to the big burst of damage from your force sword special counts torwards executor when you connect it with thier nogging

oog def not

[plucky flax]

I'm thinking to buy palworld.

Bye darktide.

[rich jolt]

If you do make sure you buy it on pc

I got it through gamepass on xbox and the audio sounds like its being smothered by a blanket

And the graphics are fcked

[proven falcon]

im guessing for the warp charge penance, you have to keep max stacks for 300 seconds straight, not 300 seconds total, right?

[rich jolt]

Yes

[long wharf]

Was I pinged?

And Darktide is going to be put aside Nov 8th

Helldivers 2 releases, and it looks awesome

[rich jolt]

Oh i remember helldivers that game was pretty neat

[proven falcon]

You mean Feb 8th?

[rich jolt]

Old game came out in 2015 im suprised were getting a sequel

[plucky flax]

What's on feb 8th?

[proven falcon]

Helldivers 2 release date

[red jacinth]

ffs i'm trying to get blazing spirt

the one time i don't want t4

i get them

i never normally get t4s on blue

why hadron

[upper sun]

ok seriously @radiant frigate you were the one that spent so much melk bucks on the +3 staminas right? I got 6 ones at 76+ from the basic store they dont seem that rare

[radiant frigate]

it wasn't even a real +3

[untold niche]

which part was confusing young man

[radiant frigate]

it was a right and proper scam

it worked fine in the psykhanium

in an actual mission it was a +2

[upper sun]

i think camping the store is gonna be better for your mental health from now on

[radiant frigate]

so i just returned to running triple toughness

[untold niche]

wait what

[radiant frigate]

Yes

75 rating

[untold niche]

there can be fakes?

[upper sun]

yeah

76+ is good

[plucky flax]

Is it like looter shotter?

Destiny/the division type?

I've only seen 1 quick gameplay from it.

[radiant frigate]

so yeah out of, what, 80 rolls of random curios, i got one +3 stamina and it wasn't even real

[upper sun]

damn

[radiant frigate]

no matter, though

[upper sun]

i got 6 from the store and so far 4 bricked

[radiant frigate]

i doubt it would change much anyway

when i can get a res, i can guarantee it

[upper sun]

tbh wound might be better

[radiant frigate]

+3 stam or not

and if i cannot guarantee it, +3 stam would not save me

[tawny jetty]

I don't know about loot but it looks like a fun co-op 3rd person shooter w friendly fire.

[radiant frigate]

because it would be grabs/overheads interfering

[upper sun]

nah not me not touching that shit

t4s max

[untold niche]

max?

build problem

[upper sun]

solo i play t3s 1 friend t4 2 friends t5

[viral flare]

jesus that's a lot of modifiers

[outer vessel]

Helldivers 1 was an intense amount of fun

I am excited for 2

Only loot you have to give a shit about is research material to get points to upgrade unlockable weapons, actives, and vehicles

Play and you got xp to unlock loads of drip

[viral flare]

brain burst users while everyone else is shooting the horde

[wet belfry]

Is there any way to track with scoreboard how much damage the blitz abillty is doing?

[hearty oak]

prob ovenproof. I dont use it so not entirely sure

[untold niche]

@plucky flax useable?

[plucky flax]

Eh that warp resis is way too low.

It's useable but you'd have to quell so much.

Big dps loss.

[wet belfry]

Worst case ill have to do a staff bash only run...

[untold niche]

sadf

[paper loom]

nice or not ?.

[wet belfry]

Im trying to find the average value of kinetic flayer in terms of dps in a normal game.

[paper loom]

sigh

[untold niche]

330k docket sspend (haven't recycle yet)

[paper loom]

Is transfer peril good on void?

[viral flare]

from what i've heard, yea
the voidstrike's alt fire can hit weakspots

[paper loom]

So I can replace barrage and sprint maybe?

Are unyielding bulwark?

[umbral helm]

bulwarks, reapers and bosses iirc

[viral flare]

ogryns and bosses are unyielding yea

[untold niche]

not meta

wait

not as popular*

[paper loom]

I have surge 4

[rigid sky]

It used to be the way but people like the crit staff more now

[hearty dagger]

That entire sentence

[paper loom]

I take it sprint effectively or whatever is shite?

[plucky flax]

RIP

[plucky flax]

You sort of want surge and nexus, or flurry.

[paper loom]

Are the perks worthless?

[plucky flax]

Unyielding is good. Maybe give you 1 shot (surge proc) on bulwark.

I like flak/maniac/carapace on void though.

My own staff has flak carapace since I play with assail and assail can take out maniac very well.

[paper loom]

I never used a void staff before

Maybe il keep unyielding and reroll sprint and barrage then

[radiant frigate]

surge blazing spirit

[plucky flax]

[radiant frigate]

become one with the flame

[jovial zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/kitten-cat-cute-milk-bowl-gif-5068068

[radiant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/madness-elden-ring-frenzy-frenzy-flame-flame-of-frenzy-gif-25870095

[paper loom]

So deflating to find an awesome base to get shafted by dome stupid robot

[tulip kettle]

thing is, people obsess so much over like the difference between 78% dmg and 80, when in game it makes no difference at all

also, can confirm after using blazing trauma for the week, its very very good and fun

[plucky flax]

I heard blaze trauma super bad and need buff.

[tulip kettle]

yeah i heard that somewhere

i ALSO started using DS4 with it cos why not

everyone here seems to worship them so they must be good right?

i liked the mobility, i dont like that they dont knock stuff down like the deimos does

[rigid sky]

Trauma is innately good before blessings with a good stat base so even if blazing spirit was bad, it'd still be good

[tulip kettle]

hes trolling

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

ATM I only like that sword with Purgatus. Deimos suits Trauma better imo.

[tulip kettle]

i said blazing trauma is bad because it just throws stuff everywhere but doesnt kill it

i stand corrected honestly

[plucky flax]

It's okay.

You are being nice about it.

[tulip kettle]

this is what i got to work with. I can only imagine its better with full dmg perks and blessings

[untold niche]

im still rolling for a 76 80 80 one

very saddening

[plucky flax]

Yeah the damage is kinda rip.

[tulip kettle]

i mean i agree

but at the same time it still works in damn as it is s

i shudder to think how strong a full one is

[plucky flax]

I too shudder.

No one ever get a good blaze trauma.

[tulip kettle]

missing 40 dmg from an 80 roll on a fully charged attack

is it really that important?

[tawny jetty]

I get your point but
Damage is damage!

[tulip kettle]

unless its overdamage

aka useless

[radiant frigate]

7% less damage, woe is me

[plucky flax]

#psyker-class message

There's a break point for dreg bruiser without any warp charges.

[untold niche]

does venting shriek blow dog away

i used it and it didn't could be one time thing

[plucky flax]

Ye it does.

[sage plaza]

Can anyone help me out with this?

[patent wing]

ive been lied to.
surge staff dump stat is not critical bonus, its warp resistance

[tawny jetty]

You need damage and good charge rate and both are missing in one or the other. I guess stick w the one with more damage?

[plucky flax]

Both are rough. Craft a new one mane

[patent wing]

critical bonus at max gives 2% more crit chance 65-77%

[plucky flax]

Whoever said that? Crit bonus give crit chance.

Which is super important on surge.

[tulip kettle]

nah i saw people here saying it

[patent wing]

whole discord chat history and psykaneum guide

[plucky flax]

[tulip kettle]

yup yup

[untold niche]

i keep getitng noobs on my a5mael
its not me i swear

[tulip kettle]

i disagreed here too

[plucky flax]

Ask me I am top 1%.

[tulip kettle]

warp res isnt really dump either on surge tbh

[patent wing]

meanwhile fking warpresistance gives me 0.2% less peril generation xdd

62 vs 80

[tulip kettle]

it generates so much peril per charged

[patent wing]

literally 0.2% diff

[hollow jolt]

"165 damage taken" smh getting hit

[tulip kettle]

its not 0.2 total

[untold niche]

dude forgive me this is second game after 1 week of playing psyker
I can't even edge properly smh

[patent wing]

14,4% vs 13,5% on charge

[tulip kettle]

just generation per second when charging

[patent wing]

secondary is oinly 0.2% diff

[tulip kettle]

yeah so its about 2.5% less total peril per charged cast

[hollow jolt]

Tell that to Nurgle who is probably using your psyker's soul to make more beasts of Nurgle 😔

[patent wing]

yeah thats not much

[tulip kettle]

its showing you the flat cost and then the cost to charge

i mean, depending on how you build and what your other warp res is

[untold niche]

one of the ogryns tanked a rager's bullet storm

[tulip kettle]

it can be the difference between 3 and 4 casts

[untold niche]

he had a shield...

he just slow walked until he could him him
bro i can't make this shit up

I died because I VS-ed and dog didnt' stagger

[tulip kettle]

its not super impactful sure

but i would suggest aiming for a 70 res / 70 quell is better than dumping one or the other

[sage plaza]

Ok, gonna keep the 373 score surge staff for the time being and work on getting a better one.
It's not too awful, it could be better, but it's not a complete wash as is.
I'll keep the good damage and charge rate in mind!

[hollow jolt]

Ogryn is trying UwU

[patent wing]

warp res at 62% = 25,2% peril per secondary cast inlcuding cast time
warp rest at 80% = 23,62% per secondary cast including cast time

[tulip kettle]

yeah

this will also scale with warp res from your tree

[untold niche]

+1 playing one of the msot insane a5maels i ahve nseen

[hollow jolt]

Sorry Warp Rider gives me damage at high peril, warp resist is a dump stat 💅💅💅

[patent wing]

yeah ik but i think its not worth for me to waste another million cash to grab a perfect

[tulip kettle]

so at 60 warp res you would not get 4 casts per 100% peril

but a7 75 you would

thats a 33% increase on damage per peril when you look at it like that

[patent wing]

true

but with the talent points its less big i think

[sage plaza]

I have a bunch more staves I need to farm from, rolling a decent Surge will take a bit.

[patent wing]

surge is one of my favs, i got a 536 which is decent enough imo

[sage plaza]

Does Surge only hit 2 enemies? Only hitting 2 at a time in the psykhaneum

[patent wing]

it damages 1 and hits 3 i think but for almost no dmg

[sage plaza]

Ah I see

The one I'm using now has +carapace damage and +unarmoured damage, should I go for extra maniac or unyielding damage?

[patent wing]

i think best is elite+flak for breakpoints

but honestly i play with crit chance

[sage plaza]

Wish I could do both, but I gotta switch out a Terrifying Barrage 🙄

[patent wing]

barrage with warp nexus (crit chance) sounds really good on paper

but i dont like to edge peril

[sage plaza]

I've been told I don't need Barrage, psyker does enough suppression as is on regular shots, and I'm inclined to believe that based on my experience.
Think I'll go with extra unyielding. This staff is on my Empowered Assail build. The general idea with it is to use the Assail shards and my sword for the rank and file, and I'm pretty good with dealing with the fancy units near and far. The staff is going to be for big hits- Maulers, Ogryn, and bosses.

[patent wing]

yeah unyielding + crit is my fav combination too bc its the only staff that has some boss dmg

i think the base crit from surge is also dependant on crit bonus stat btw

[tender yew]

What’s a good build to work with as you level up? First time psyker player (have everything else at 30)

[wet belfry]

Id bolt over to assail as quick as possible, pick up the subtalents it has.

[untold niche]

finally won one

[wet belfry]

Psyker is probably actually the strongest low level character in the game

Strong spammable blitz abillty combined with unlocking strong single target damage weapons early in levels.

Deimos gets unlocked at level 6

[radiant frigate]

idk, 60 toughness kinda sucks

but you do have the power to kill carapace from level 1

[untold niche]

if you play the best low level build maybe, i hated the psyker levelling experience.
ogryn was easiest

[untold niche]

wait wat

[radiant frigate]

brain burst

[untold niche]

how much $ of hp ot deals per shoit

[wet belfry]

900

[untold niche]

of much hp crusher have

at level 1

[wet belfry]

I dunno what they have at that difficulty

1350 at sedition

[radiant frigate]

either way you can actually hurt them

unlike vet shovel

[wet belfry]

1800 on uprising

so just enough damage to 2 shot a crusher on that difficulty

[radiant frigate]

from relative safety, too

and 100% reliability

[feral verge]

@spice veldt

[zenith vigil]

does staff kill count as ranged for weekly contract?

[tame venture]

first ever max stats staff, is it that decent of a spread?

[paper loom]

any idea on what perks might be nice for this

[tulip kettle]

yes

[tame venture]

not bricked?

hmm, flak, elites or crits?

eh, flak is the go-to

[tame venture]

blaze away and pinning fire, but imo powderburn is good too

[paper loom]

arent the perks shite tho

so pinning fire and powderburn?

[flint aspen]

I'm willing to try out Psyker, how do I not suck playing as them

[plucky flax]

Flak maniac go go.

[tame venture]

You don't have excellent perks, but you have serviceable ones

[ornate hamlet]

Don't use warp shit when peril is at 100% and be decent at the melee basics

[midnight jolt]

Change weak spot for something else, like flak and terrifying barrage (is the worst blessing AFAIK on a staff) for warp flurry

[blissful pulsar]

So I don't have time to buy botyh but is Surge better for voidstrike or trauma? Melk is selling both but can only buy one D:

[stone canyon]

Think i just found my farming curio

[plucky flax]

Get surge on voidstrike.

Very rare blessing.

[stone canyon]

Surge doesnt work on Trauma, on Voidstrike its best

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[blissful pulsar]

Thanks a ton :D

[sullen rapids]

isn’t surge kinda dog against everything that isn’t an ogryn or boss? everything else you already oneshot on a crit so surge is overkill

rather get warp nexus for the extra crit, no?

[plucky flax]

No you don't 1 shot elites.

You do with surge.

It also increases damage against horde.

2 balls rather than 1 ball.

[rigid sky]

You take Surge with Nexus

Not on its own

[sullen rapids]

i most certainly do idk what’s different for you

i use disrupt destiny with vs tho so probably that

[plucky flax]

Yeah I run ep on my void build.

[sullen rapids]

ah yea you’re missing like the second best damage buff in the game lol

that’d do it

[plucky flax]

[rigid sky]

Hm. Maybe disrupt destiny would work well with a transfer void

Could never make DD work

Or void since talent tree patch

[sullen rapids]

just run it with nexus/flurry lol

dd already has a peril quell talent

[plucky flax]

Until they make dd fall off once at a time, or make allies kill increase stack I won't touch it.

I am too noob for the upkeep.

[sullen rapids]

even with the 30s node?

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[sullen rapids]

skill issue i guess, only time it drops for me is on travel areas where it doesnt really matter

[lyric burrow]

flak

[plucky flax]

I mean I only play in sedition after all.

[radiant frigate]

disrupt destiny is a scam

[sullen rapids]

how

[hollow current]

I like it with my las pistol gunker. the 30 seconds and 3 stacks per headshot node works well with me. drop off is kinda lame tho.

[hoary badge]

DD is nice on power shortage for the free wallhacks and usually ensures you get first dibs on your kill

[radiant frigate]

you think you are getting a persistent stacking damage buff but all you get is blue man taunting you

[sullen rapids]

what?

[radiant frigate]

Yes

[sullen rapids]

how is it not a buff

[leaden mulch]

is deimos worth using or just use chainsword ?

[hoary badge]

Why wouldn't it

[radiant frigate]

doesn't really stack

[sullen rapids]

what?

how does it not stack

[hoary badge]

It does bonkers damage without sticking you on your target, has great mobility and you get a force push to bully elites with

[radiant frigate]

frequently swaps targets, other people kill blue man before you, etc

i saw it drop very frequently when i played with it

i consider it a waste of points but to each their own

[sullen rapids]

if youre actually doing damage (surge, voidstrike or gunpsyker) you should have no problem actually killing them

[hoary badge]

DD targeting is affected by your camera positioning, you do have some influence over the jumpy blue man

[hollow jolt]

It targets whatever would do the least damage UwU

[dapper shadow]

I can consistently keep it at 15 stacks whenever a fight starts and only drops when the team is moving through areas with little to no enemies. 🤔 the target switching is a little bit annoying sometimes but getting the extra nodes to make stacks last 30 seconds gives you more than enough leeway to cap the stacks as long as there’s some enemies and/or elites around

[sullen rapids]

yea

ive literally never had it drop when in auric maelstrom lol

[dim parrot]

imma try it out I think

will I survive or nah?

[vocal cliff]

50/50

[plucky flax]

No.

[dim parrot]

challenge accepted

[lyric burrow]

its not like the worst if your taking crit stuff

however

you are very glass cannon lol

[dim parrot]

lmao

[lyric burrow]

wait why did you take mind in motion and not combustion

[vocal cliff]

Funi

[dim parrot]

because I move a lot while quelling?

[sullen rapids]

wait why assail and scrier’s

[lyric burrow]

assail scriers is fine if you arent taking peril weapons

[dim parrot]

because

[sullen rapids]

go like smite or bb and take psykenetics aura for more scrier’s

[dim parrot]

heeeelll nah

[lyric burrow]

you can dodge slide and stuff while your quelling

mind in motion doesnt really do much unfort

[vocal cliff]

I hate the fact it's there when I want to grab the left aura

If I were smarter

I'd swap the two to the right

[lyric burrow]

yeah im usually forced into for CDR

sadly

[sullen rapids]

cdr is bad why?

your ults are generally like the best thing you can do and if you spam them more that’s better

[lyric burrow]

thats

what cdr does

[sullen rapids]

so why is it sad you’re having to take cdr

[lyric burrow]

no im glad im taking cdr

im sad im taking mind in motion to get there

if i take assail

[sullen rapids]

oh

[vocal cliff]

Filler node

Basically

[lyric burrow]

yeah

id take pretty much any other node

in its place

even like puppet master lol

[dim parrot]

siblings, what is cdr again?

[harsh urchin]

cooldown reduction

[radiant frigate]

filler nodes are stinky

turn every node into a core node

[wind spruce]

Ovenproofs new "Power DI" mod might be able to do this. It's still in beta, though.

[red jacinth]

finally

[wind spruce]

Total waste of a talent point. 20% chance for 15% peril quell per marked kill. Average of 3% per marked kill. Not that high a % of your kills are marked enemies

[wind spruce]

Just dodge slide.

[sullen rapids]

ok firstly, a lot of kills will be against DD targets because killing them gives toughness back

secondly: in scriers gaze, more peril reduction means a longer duration and more damage (which is like the whole point of using scriers with dd)

[wind spruce]

Firstly, you're just wrong. It won't be that high a % of your kills.
Second, I know the theory on why it might be useful, unfortunately it just isn't good.

[sullen rapids]

itll be a high% of kills when it matters tho?

[wind spruce]

It won't though

[sullen rapids]

the times youre not hitting DD targets are hordes which are piss easy tbh just m1 with a melee or like

when youre moving between zones

which also doesnt matter

[wind spruce]

The time when you're not hitting a significant amount of DD targets is all the time. Specials, monsters, ogryns and hordes all won't proc it. You need to be killing a fairly significant number of them for Purloin Providence to be worth it. In a big fire fight that just isn't happening due to how the marking occurs and how you should be prioritising targets.

You'd need to focus down every marked target consecutively for it to be worth. If you're doing that you're not going to be prioritising enemies as you well as you should be.

It's 3% peril per marked kill. It's significantly worse than battle meditation which is 1% per any kill.

[sullen rapids]

as a gunpsyker, you should be 2tapping most of the marked targets with a columnus which is going to be mostly gunners which is still good

2 shots with columnus is less than a second

[wind spruce]

My most recent experience with it is dozens and dozens of games with columnus and I strongly disagree.

[opaque charm]

I've got a much easier to use Assail build that doesn't rely on Columbus IAG (which is literally bugged to do more damage than it should)

[vocal cliff]

Wha

[opaque charm]

https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/columnus-mk-v-iag-uses-graia-mk-viii-iag-damage-values/90851

[red jacinth]

suggestions?

[lethal lagoon]

There's also the fact that fatshark nerfed Vlds crit strings for being too OP and just ignored Columbus for some reason

[lethal lagoon]

Block -> carpace, Rampage -> shred.

[red jacinth]

i prefer rampage tbh

[lethal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️

[plucky flax]

Then upgrade rampage to lvl 4.

And block to carapace/unyielding. Or even maybe crit chance.

[dim parrot]

update, I survived

[plucky flax]

But maniac carapace is my fav perks combo for duelling swords.

[lethal lagoon]

Wouldn't uncanny 4 be better?

[plucky flax]

Nah at 5 stacks it's the same.

You can get multiple stack of uncanny on 1 slash.

If you cleave.

[lethal lagoon]

I keep hearing conflicting thoughts on that

[plucky flax]

Wut? Rending is capped at 100%.

So 5 stacks, uncanny 3 and 4 do the same damage.

[wind spruce]

The % above 100 still gives a small increase

[lethal lagoon]

Point at the doll where rending is capped at 100%

[wind spruce]

It's just like way lower, like 4% or something

There was a dev note about it

[plucky flax]

It was in a patch note.

It specifically said cap.

[wind spruce]

I'd still take rampage 4 over uncanny 4

[opaque charm]

What weapons do you use?

[dim parrot]

surge and illisi ^^

[opaque charm]

Hmmm

So your ult is just for melee?

[dim parrot]

indeed

I love melee

[opaque charm]

Huh. DD enhanced Assail can kill anything you would want to melee

With illisi

[plucky flax]

I'm the anti asraval. I only use staff

[dim parrot]

but thats boring

[plucky flax]

Based obscurus blazing spirits build in my lobby.

[vocal cliff]

That is so gnarp gnarp

[wind spruce]

@lethal lagoon @plucky flax

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/catjam-cat-dancing-cat-music-music-cat-cute-cat-gif-23392229

[wind spruce]

Not even taking shred is ballsy

[open ridge]

rate my weapon combo:

[dim parrot]

u get a 2/3 from me

[wind spruce]

0/10. Purgatus and anything gets a 0

[open ridge]

what about this

[wind spruce]

Genuinely tho, I'd pick up a single target melee if I was going to run purg

[wind spruce]

That's good. Switch infested and precognition off

[open ridge]

fs

[red jacinth]

worth grabbing?

[open ridge]

I only have level 3 rampage available for precognition's place but it should be better

[open ridge]

what level are you and what do you have rn

[red jacinth]

56, mostly play vet and zealot

[open ridge]

you could roll a 370+

[red jacinth]

ik

can't be bothered

[open ridge]

it's a decent weapon

[wind spruce]

Yes that's good

The difference on charge time between 64% and 80% is like 0.05s

Hardly noticeable

Actually it's a bit more than that with Surge, it's 0.067s

[plucky flax]

Ow the one time I play without deflector and I missed it badly.

[dim parrot]

just hide behind the ogryn

[plucky flax]

I did. The ogryn took 2k hp damage.

[wind spruce]

Back to sedition

[dim parrot]

imagine wagons

[plucky flax]

23 mins hishock game. The obscurus guy did 170k damage.

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/rock-agreed-rock-sus-agreed-gif-23818297

[wind spruce]

Is that like imagine dragons goes bluegrass

[dim parrot]

blue what

[upper sun]

do you have all the blessings for surge staff?

[wind spruce]

It's the objectively best genre of music

[sullen rapids]

bro does not know what objective means huh

[primal plume]

A reminder the bubble completely trivializes the Beast of Nurgle. If you stand in the bubble and it tries to puke, the bubble completely blocks the puke.

[tawny pebble]

Stun shield sad 😦

[ornate hamlet]

Bubble nerds

[ionic needle]

Is there a mod for viewing your total stats? Like your combined total of toughness, health, curios, talents?

[flint plover]

Huh.. can't tell if this is workable or not

[prime elk]

60% damage https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/896375586040197190.webp?size=48&name=blob_cold_sweat&quality=lossless

[flint plover]

an 80% dmg Trauma is 660, a 60% is 620. I feel like I'm not really missing any breakpoints with that?

[ionic needle]

You're not, it's fine

If you're building for blaze trauma it's even less relevant

[wind spruce]

That's the joke homeslice

[wind spruce]

A reminder that waiting for burgle to spew and dodge sliding also negates it. No need to run in insane loops. You can basically keep it stationary.

[wind spruce]

Inventory Stats

[primal plume]

No need to run in insane loops.
???????????????????????????

Are you trying to imply you should only use bubble for BoN?

Also bubble does a better job at keeping it stationary

i dont exaggerate when I say you can literally hug the thing and you wont get puked on

the BoN might as well be afk

[wind spruce]

voidstrike go brrr

the right hand two weren't in all game but i was not expecting 800k at all

[wind spruce]

im trying to imply you shouldnt use bubble at all

[primal plume]

Bubble is the best ult imo

Ive had more instances of 'I wish I had bubble" than not

its such a handy tool

[prime elk]

i'm partial to shriek

because setting things on fire is fun

https://tenor.com/view/arthur-fire-walking-gif-26426579

^ingame footage of me dancing on burning heretic corpses

[wind spruce]

Shriek is best

Disrupt Destiny is so easy to keep up with void and shriek. I am blue man pilled.

Fuck warp charges

Hit F while face blue man keep stacks feels good

[opaque charm]

Yeah DD has 15% damage before the weakspot/crit buff. Very good

[upper sun]

its almost time for new melk stock!!

https://strawpoll.com/PbZqRPKQ0yN

place your bets

[round sandal]

what melee do you all like to use with psyker?

[upper sun]

i use illisi i have a great one

demios sometimes too

[feral verge]

dueling sword 4, deimos force sword and illisi force sword

are the most popular option on psyker

deimos force sword is mostly a single target weapon, illisi is mostly a horde clear weapon, dueling sword does a bit of both

obscurus force sword is a good weapon, however it is over shadowed by both illisi and deimos

obscurus does less single target damage than deimos, and has worse horde clear in comparison with illisi

optimal deimos looks like this

uncanny strike is most important blessing

maniac damage is most important perk

optimal dueling sword looks something like this

uncanny strike most important blessing (once again)

carapace damage most important perk

shred blessing can be swapped for precog blessing

precog does bonus finesse damage on successful dodge (finesse damage is critical hit and headshot damage)

optimal illisi looks something like this

unstable power could be swapped with uncanny strike

OR slaughterer could be swapped with uncanny strike

because uncanny strike + unstable power can help make illisi better at single target

since it mulches hordes pretty easily even without slaughterer

most important perk is maniac damage

@round sandal

deflector blessing is also an option on force sword. it lets you block bullets (but not sniper shots) when blocking, at the cost of peril

[meager moon]

Dueling sword IV gang

[feral verge]

to someone new, that might sound amazing/god tier, and while it is pretty neat, it definitely is not needed to win games. dodging will almost always be better than blocking

[meager moon]

Shit is so satisfying to use

I wish I could give it to my zealot...

[round sandal]

im tryna come up with the best build to fight the twins on damnation difficulty

bc so far havent been able to do it

brain burst melts their shields and seems to be able to do the most damage

[feral verge]

the other classes have an easier time with the twins

specifically, zealot

best bet on psyker is just to support the team

jsut put the bubble down, knock elite packs to the floor with trauma staff

[upper sun]

ye chainswords go HARD

[feral verge]

i dont find any of the keystones helpful or impactful with the twins

so for only the twins, i use a keystoneless build

[wind spruce]

Swap for riposte more like

[lethal helm]

what should I use my last reroll on? I dont really aim for weakspots (I know, Im bad) so would the doge crit be best in that regard?

[feral verge]

Knife needs uncanny strike blessing

So riposte for uncanny strike

[wheat seal]

too easy with psyker

[wind spruce]

Get rid of block efficiency and change lacerate to uncanny

Bleed is shit

[lethal helm]

but I dont aim for weakspots..

[feral verge]

Then don't use knife

[wind spruce]

It's really not hard to hit weakspots on knife VI

[lethal helm]

Ill figure it out I guess

thanks anyway

[wheat seal]

Two hours ago I made my best game with the psyker, almost 1 million damage 😢

[feral verge]

Uncanny strike

[wind spruce]

I'm really not that good at hitting them either and I still end up with above 50% weakspot rate

[feral verge]

Very, very important

[upper sun]

idk how to even hit melee weakspots i usually end up flailing my mouse around when im in melee

[feral verge]

Without uncanny strike you are just gonna be a goofy guy in melee who can't kill anything whom your team hates

[lethal helm]

I guess I can try it over bleed and see, holding the reroll to see if I like it

I mostly use it for movement, not that interested in killing in melee

[upper sun]

something gets in your face you gotta deal with it

peril at 99%?

sword time

[feral verge]

Uncanny strike is a must have on any weapon that can use it

[lethal helm]

I am pretty good at making space but I do dislike the slow kill speed if I do get bogged down

[feral verge]

Knife moreso than any other weapon

Uncanny strike fixes slow kill speed somewhat

It's pretty much a direct damage increase

[upper sun]

i run it on demios with illisi since its best for clear its not as important or thats how i feel anyways

[feral verge]

Not trying to be rude, but with that knowledge, it would be very foolish to not take it

[meager moon]

I thought I was being all smart putting Mercy Killer on my knife but I think it made it worse

[feral verge]

Unless you are playing malice, then it does t really matter

[lethal helm]

alright. youve persuaded me enough to try it

[upper sun]

i am

[feral verge]

But if you are playing damnation, your team will thank you for actually being able to kill shit within a reasonable amount of time

[lethal helm]

I dont like the idea of actually aiming but if its good regardless Ill test it

[upper sun]

did ok in auric the few times i played it but i used the staff for the heavies

[feral verge]

If you don't want to aim, play ogryn

[upper sun]

iktfb i run surge staff because i dont wanna aim

[feral verge]

Ogryn is the most braindead class

[upper sun]

RATIONS????