#psyker-class
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and with the rending talent nodes, getting it to be good again
so FartShack had to put the kibosh on that as well
I never understood veterans fasinciation with the recon lasgun
I think it sounds like the most lame weapon possible
Its just a weapon that shoots out a laser, without any form of recoil.
If it actually was good it would be boring to play.
The punishment for missing with it is minimal since the weapons firerate is so high and its also extremely hard to miss to begin with.
because lasguns are half the reason why WH40k fans play Darktide
and a lasgun that shoots so fast that it's essentially a constant beam is fun
especially with the vet that can make it pinpoint accurate
just played a match where I was ogryn and the poor psyker was having a bad time, peril overloaded like 5 times
veteran was chewing him out for it and being a dick: "stop peril overloading you're so bad"
chad psyker: "i peril overloaded your gf last night"
bold of him to think the veteran player has a gf
lmao
ngl i wish flayer had lower icd so i could spam it with recon lasgun
i generally find "stream of laser" to be pretty fun even though it feels a bit weak on vet due to my lack of skill
what melee do u like when running purg staff
which blessings do u like on it
sometimes i bring it for deflector but i never need it
so waste... thinking about dropping it
Executor is good on deimos as it has the same property of uncanny strike where in it will build stacks during the special activation
Or just take slaughterer
thx
I'm addicted to new knife.
New knife + trauma + bubble = I can kill everything
Help
I've become an average Londoner ๐
Using rending on weakspot atm
And I think you maybe have to use a bleed blessing or just power on weak spot
But either should work
Former helps with bosses if you ever need to poke it to death
The latter helps with mauler/crusher consistency kills I think. Probably cuts down your push shove stabs by a few strikes
It's basically my go to solo auric build though
Have answers for everything except maybe sniping far off elites like gunners.
Is smite overrated?
Smite useful for certain situation
That is fair
its good on some auric missions where corridors or hallways make being surrounded a pain
Smite is good for popping bursters and opening bulwarks, any other problem can be solved with some good old ultra violence
Aka new knife and columnus
the answer to "is X good" is almost always "depends what you use it for"
It's good but I wouldn't call it great since Trauma exists
Trauma just does like 80% of what you want a weapon to do though.
trauma do be the best
CC's big boys, kills hordes, reliably destroys shotgunners, ragers, bulwarks, gunners, and is high aoe
Is voidstrike good? Yes.
Even staggers bosses on headshot 
Yeah voidstrike is pretty solid.
It's clunky at times but I'm not gonna call the weapon that can 1shot a crusher long range "bad"
No clunky
Honestly I think all the staves except purgatus are solid
hence "almost"
I know I just wanted to say that haha
Only Purg is I'm a weird spot rn
But that's cos horde clearing is not only a kinda boring job, it's also not really that difficult to do
and it doesn't clear mixed hordes as safely as Trauma so
Ehh
They should make horde clearing painful again. Then horde clear builds can finally shine
again, depends what you use it for. or, more often, how you use it.
I feel alot of builds have everything. I don't know if that is what they are going for
It would make horde weapons like claw a lot better
Just because they stop being "I use it cos I feel lazy"
I mean
That's a given with everything lol
This is more of an evaluation of how its role isn't really sought after atm
Unless you're the recon las, you tend to always have a niche you can reliably slot into
But the discussion of certain weapons not being as sought after is a valid evaluation of how "good" they are overall
Like they could make voidstrike cleave through three zomvies at max
Zealot Flamer for instance is fantastic
you'd be surprised with some teams you get, even in aurics. somehow people manage to not be good at clearing in the game about it
I'm not that surprised ngl
But you just get used to pubs
Not everyone has put it 1k hours total in tide games kek
I think it's more of a build issue
I think I'm at a combined 700+ hours now for vt2 + darktide combined
That's also true, ye
All the issues here i seen ( e.g. help I can't go damnation) seems to be build issues more of anything
Tho I'd say that build issues just come part and parcel of not having enough experience in the game's harder modes.
yeah, but the point was about its role not being sought after. there are games where it is, depends on the player. but, I also play whatever I'm in the mood for as opposed to whatever's needed, typically. unless directly asked
You don't need to optimize to clear aurics anyway
I think also depend on if FS wants to let players have basically very good all around builds
I mean, that's fair. I'm not picky for who plays lol
I'm also not actually "elitist" as long as you're trying your best, even if you die like 7-8 times in an auric
By right voidstrike only weakness is having bad close range horde clear surrounded.
But then we get illisi
But I'm not going to pretend that someone who's going to bring a recon las is going to be doing much for instance
Sometimes I complain sometimes I don't care.
I'm not gonna flame him for it if he finds it fun
But I'm not gonna think it's any good
I'm just too chill nowadays
that is just the typical build pattern, currently. a "good" build is just one that covers all its bases, at least from what I've seen of community consensus
Only thing that sets me off are people who intentionally troll hard
Only thing my build isn't good at is I need to two half charge gunners.
Yes, mostly because specialized builds leave you open to bad spots that are entirely avoidable if you had "an out"
The devs can nerf stuff so it's not possible.
Take flamer for instance
Or just remove or add stuff
like back when we only had obscurus?
You get what I mean.
If you bring flamer, stun nade, and claw
If that is what thw devs want.
How are you gonna kill gunners or trappers or snipers?
You don't
So you're either going to have to put much more effort into getting rid of them or hoping your team does it
Which in pub context, is like leaving it rng to Tzeentch and hoping he's not going to give you people who wipe to 1 trapper kek
not too fond of "ranged" weapons that are just glorified melee horde clear
Same. It's why I don't like the purgatus nowadays
I personally would prefer more defined roles.
Buy of course end of the day it comes down to execution. If the devs execute it poorly now game sucks to play because teammate can't do their job
Even in vt2 anyway, defined roles were pretty hard to come across
I see. So not likely then.
Especially by end game /cata where armor piercing is just dominant
It's just what happens when your strongest, toughest enemies are also of a certain armor type
Your weapon picks get skewed towards dealing with them consistently
Because you can outplay hordes with shoves and kiting
But you're not going to be able to outplay the game going I hope you can deal with carapace checks
Combine that with specials being the real "run enders" and you can see why it's skewed towards armor piercing+sniping
I haven't play vet but I think.
With context to being able to play a5mael or a5histg
Void psyker has a higher skill floor but lower skill ceiling
Zealot has lower skill floor but higher skill ceiling ( zealot has waay more interactions to keep in mind than psykee in general)
Ogryn is ogryn.
The best part is dual sword dagger exists
Devs just lmaoing at dual swords
It's even funnier when the regular elf sword clears elites better than the dual swords too
( heavy overhead into light stab )
I think this is partially the game's fault, because it does try to present itself as a team-heavy experience, and honestly the games where everyone I was playing with leaned into that concept were more fun than normal, admittedly. but, current end-game balancing of "just throw all the shit at them at once" does shoehorn most builds a certain direction
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It is partially the game's fault at times
The other part is the fact there are people who solo/duo the game kek
well yes because dual swords are an absolute horde blender
I think that's why I said I would prefer more defined roles. This is a good point yeah.
And have consistently shown that just being prepared and patient CAN'T beat everybody
The thing is that you can absolutely have 4 decent players all solo
I agree, ye
But it's also why I brought up sword and dagger
They only clear hordes slightly worse
smoothest runs i have experienced were when everyone was engaging in melee
But they actually have that overpowered push shove attack into overhead heavy that 1-2shots stuff
Yes
It's peak "I didn't think about it" from dev side lmao
not all weapons were made equal
Smoothest run was when some 400+ was pinging where to go next for those more confusing maps and people listened
I have bad sense of direction so I can't do that sadly
gotta have the fundamentals down if you wanna get anywhere. it's why "the vet that never uses his melee" is such a meme
Fundamentals are honestly not that hard either
and the psyker
A lot of it is "hold block"
Though some people apparently were worse. I have seen people drop down that starting elevator hatch, then walk up the half floor stairs right back into spawn
i only really block on monsters tbh
I always hold block when I'm moving around
I don't block attacks
But I always block and side dodge as a reflex moving around
It's good fundementals
rat-induced PTSD
no, but people fail at it anyway, for one reason or another
hm
I don't think it's good for DT
No it's very good actually
why
meant this one but, regardless. point remains either way
Defensive movement is the most important skill in all tide games
Offensive is extremely easy
Defensive movement is much harder to learn
I wish liveleech had another insignia tier
yes but blocking barely comes into play in DT
pretty much only when ressing someone
As in I don't mean it's bad. I just don't think it's a fundamental.
For me DT fundamental is just knowing how to react to stuff ( e.g. shove poxyb) and kill priority which will come naturally anyway
I half ass all my melee by slashing twice, sometimes pushing sometimes dodge sometimes both.
On psyker.
Same in vt2
The act of blocking isn't to actively block attacks but to train yourself to move better because you are forced to use side dodges more consistently
It's one of the first rules of vt2 solo more or less kek
Learning good movement
deflector is a really nice so is the double stun push on force swords
But that's just me
i would argue that vt2 had way more blocking
Only a little bit
since you could facetank considerably less
I heard you actually needed to block in vt2 as well
I'll be honest, I've never touched deflector and at this point it's funnier to me to continue not using it, because of how often it's praised
You didn't want to block in vt2
Because you don't actually get rid of enemies by blocking
yeah but you can't alternate that with your dodges in DT
Even on my zealot I never hold block. I do hold shift alot to run though
Blocking is just a safety move during dodges
you can just walk up to gunners with it
I bet I can, but spite for the sake of amusing myself is a powerful thing
I tried it with three gunners and regret it considerably
You still can
You just don't regen block stamina during dodges unlike vt2
I have deector 4 and kd as well
ye maybe just one gunner
Pretty much why new knife is absolutely busted though
that's literally why i said you can't
because you will run out
But you're not actually looking to "block" attacks is my point
can't do your little dance and push spam because your stamina won't regen
Those are just safety nets to learn at first until your fundementals are down
Either way. You said you hold block so you train yourself to side dodge more. That is not what a fundamental is imo
:v
I mean
Feel free not to listen
I still haven't played dark souls 2 despite at one point owning it and having it installed in my library just because the amusement I got from annoying ds2 fanboys was more fun than the idea of playing it
This is just self taught from soloing vt2
Defensive play is just the fundamental skill anyone should learn over everything else in the end is my point
i would agree that the block during dodge is for figuring out what you can and cannot get away with, so you can then replace the block with attacks during dodging when you can get away with it
Because spamming left click is extremely easy
That's why I do dodge into PA when I have the stam
But knowing when it's safe to do it is a learned skill since you actually need to control what you're hitting
Pretty much why I just run stamina curios, stamina regen and gunner defense curios
Shoves, blocks, and the ability to move around more are basically the only stats worth having imo
I feel darktide left click pretty brainless
I always just do 2 left click then do a defensive move or both defensive moves
i wanna say that stamina barely matters (on psyker)
Specially when they moved the thresholds to weapons
If you use the one that transfers stuff to peril, it probably matters a lot less, ye
I'm certain you are a better player than me if you can solo this game / VT2. I just feel like it's not important to do that to be able to win and top chart in a5mael/a5histg
But the reality is that there's only like 2 stats worth having on curios anyway
and if you don't, you are sitting at 2-3 stamina otherwise
It's just toughness, or stamina for main stats imo
I have vets on a5mael not knowing they can dodge dogs.
But I don't intend to get hit so 
i don't intend to get into a car crash so why use a seatbelt
Probably just ptsd from when dogs were bs
Ogryns not shoving poxbursters
Difference is that a car crash can be the other driver fucking up
Darktide / Vermintide 2 with the right movement still doesn't fuck you over as hard as random chance does irl
"just don't get hit" would be a sentiment I'd agree with more often if the people that usually said it would, y'know. do that
And the difference in punishment is far greater
You get hit by a car without a seatbelt you're probably dead
I genuinely don't know how to not get hit if they is huge horde and surrounded like defence mission. Some zomvies do that super slow attack that hit you on dodge end.
You get hit by a slap in darktide, you don't lose hp until the 2nd one if you're at full toughness
That's several orders of magnitude greater in punishment
Yes
Basically need to control the horde
luckily for you, you have some margin for error
But that's dependent on space and if they're mixed or not
That is a very high level answer that doesn't explain much
Basically the generic answer is
Enemies have 2 kinds of attacks
A running one that tracks you
smite the heretic, eat a slap here or there, regenerate your toughness, continue slapping
And the other is "I attack where you are atm by sitting still"
You basically just want to cycle them into the latter
( by constantly walking and dodging to make them hit air )
The attack while standing still has a slow and fast/normal variant I'm pretty sure
Because if they start doing the running attack that's harder to dodge
That zombie one meter away from you can do the slow variant that you dodge into
Yup
But they're less dangerous than the running tracking attack
Because you can easily dodge/shove those as they don't move
The running tracking attack can come out of your shove/attack range and still hit you
Ye
It was much worse in vt2
Yeah my point is it's not possible to never get hit in a surrounded horde with just melee
Because if you have other tools would just just nade or use your ult
In darktide the most dangerous enemies are the one shot crushers/mauler overhead, and gunners mostly
rat game considerably more difficult
Hordes are much nicer
DT my worst enemy is poxybursters
Silent bursters, ye
Or ones that explode on your teammate and you are close enough.
Normal bursters can be hellish if your team is bad tho LMAO
Next would prob be 12 gunners
Which is why my helpful auric tip is if your team sucks, stay away from them
Anything else isn't "dangerous" more like something to deal with
I've had enough games where they shoot bursters in my face, or fail to shove it and kill us all from it
silent trapper is a nightmare
Your tips seem to me to be very ehats the word. Something like specific...
Specific + negative connotation just because you want to do things a certain way / strongly believe in something
especially as ogryn
Current gunners are extra bullshit
Since they stun you even during full toughness
Nah I get what you mean
But I just practice good social distancing in general in Darktide
Tends to be easier for me when I don't have to worry about teammates randomly funneling aggro into me because they use stealth zealot/vet
Nothing's worse than not knowing if the trapper or crusher is aiming at you, or your teammate, so I just take the safe option and either go at the front, or way at the back
That way I'm not surprised if I see an enemy running, since I know I'm always the main target
Actually that's why I play front line void.
Easier to kill ragers than have my team stumble them continuously perpendicular to me
Jk
No hate if you enjoy that
Same(ish)
Also because I actually tag stuff lol
I mean I agree it's good practice to stay away from teammates when there is a burster but I wouldn't advice my friends to stay away from teammates .
I can't tell you how annoyed I am when someone else.is at point, but they don't tag the 9 crushers in the room
If I don't play stealth zealot in hab dreyko the finale become super hard.
I stopped tagging stuff that much idk why. I only tag stuff I can't kill
That's the fun part of DT you are missing out
I always tag stuff myself
Red outline makes it easier for me to track their movements
But I do tag 6 crushers and run away
Ye it's why I moved to new knife
But if someone bring 6 crushers to me I wouldn't be mad at him even if I die
Green outline gang
New knife gives me the speed and safety to do objectives
Because my team refuses to do it
It's tru
I think its cause I feel very lazy to tag the single gunner or trapper only to kill it a second later
I'd it's a running away trapper I can't kill then I tag
Push shove + heavy on new knife is fantastic for hordes ( even mixed hordes )
I'd I think I can't kill
Still good practice tbh
Don't need to obsessively tag like I do
How does knife do that. Genuinely asking
against horde i usually loop the following two:
- side dodge while attacking until you almost have no dodges left, leave a tiny bit of space between each dodge for your stamina to come back
- when you're gonna run out of dodges, dodge back a bit and hold block until your dodges come back (should be under a second)
It's because new knife first and 2nd heavies are horizontal sweeps
Yeah I agree. This one I agree with you. Its better to tag every high prior target you see.
So push shove into heavy does a lot of cleave
And knocks over stuff it doesn't kill
And the new knife push shove is very good at killing specials too
Yeah loopable horizontal heavies... xD
( since it's a short stab )
Bleed knife my beloved
That's ogryn level
Older knife is still better at elites
But you do sacrifice the safety since your horde clear is all lights
So you need to weave a lot more dodges and shoves if the horde is dense enough
No need to run mobility melee if I'm 99% on my staff anyway :p
I use new knife + trauma
Knife dodge distance+ dodge count being at 6 means I can loop crushers for days
I think ds4 is also fantastic tbh
What's bt?
Just that I've been doing the objectives a lot
You mean blitz?
Yeah
Bb but rarely ever use it.
What blitz you run on blaze trauma*
I use left click way more to kill specials.
So I prefer the knife safety over the ds4's general ability to kill special more
i mostly use brain burst for bosses
Honestly I don't think I use blitz's on trauma staff
I have it on assail though
I like illisi because I know when I take out my melee immediate horde dies
Since it's center of the tree
Yes
And I can kill bosses with the knife
beast of nurgle ๐
Are not running blaze trauma. Think there'd like 2 other trauma build rite
I use bubble for Beast of Nurgle
Yeah only for monster. But for bonbon right click on trauma is better than bb
Game should make support builds more fun to play and less brain dead for people to play around
Bubble protects from the puke which means he doesn't grab you
Just need to not get tail swiped
Playing with a smite support player I might as well play sedition
In fact sedition is provably harder
If you're on crack play surge like this
https://youtu.be/sz7L0QuU6Us
My fingers hurt from doing blitz cancel. D:
Yes weapon customisation mod still screws up the vfx. :c
Patch 1.2.22
Magistrati Oubliette TM8-707 ยท Assassination ยท Damnation ยท Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: MK IV Duelling Sword / Smite / Force Surge Staff
00:00 Build
01:25 Game Starts
Well on sedition/malice your teammates are probably worse
Watch your fingers
So you'll get more time being alone lol
So sorry can you summarise what the cancel do.
If it's tech I'm jnclined to try
I been sedation some round I met knife psyker speed runner
Enemy density is very poor though so you'll probably die of boredom
Increase dps at the peril of your fingers.
Risk free melk task โfinish mission without player deathโ
No I meant is it like qq swap like assail or etc
Freaking agent tempting me to grind for new cool stuff every time
I hate that guy
I just reroll that
I'm so mad one game where I finished one of the assassination missions
Nah i donโt want shoot 1000 Dreg or scab
Snd then at the end where you wait for like 10 seconds for the game to end
Or melee
#psyker-class message
Watch this short clip
Someone exploded the barrel and yeeted himself to the void
ah, great
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QQ cancel
Fair
I'm actually having more issues atm finishing the "kill 1000 enemies in melee"
I keep running into purgatus and trauma psykers
So I can't complete it
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Does it said specific enemies?
Ye it's one for those kill 1k dregs in melee
OK does the long video explain the keyboard input
Is get boring and slow progressing kill 1000 Dreg or scab
I'm going to try it when I reach home
Awful missions tbh
Which I prefer easier no player death or finish mission task
I check Melk for impossible missions like no player death or melee if I'm playing psyker then reroll and just play the game normally
No you just cast surge then quickly swap to blitz then back to staff. It cancels the after cast animation
You lose a bit of damage but get to the big damage tick faster.
I always magically finish all
No players death is easy in uprising or sedation
I met level 20-30 most times
What are decent perks/blessings for the smg?
I'm not going to waste my time playing uprising or sedition
yeah but those are boring
no enemies
I know I did try suffer as I can
Same
Just reroll those missions
Weak enemies
I only play sedition. Everything else is too hard
Honestly pretty annoying on Fatshark's part
Went from decent missions
To absolutely awful grindy ones
I get them faster than finish 8 missions.
Even pick 16 grim/scripture
In sedation killing low intensity enemies?
Yes
Pick 8 grims

Smg?
Yea the shredder
Sorry I lied I play auric playlist. 
Goddam I didn't even know psyjer had an smh
I barely read sarcasm you said play sedation only.
Amazing Fatshark design
I'm too metapilled
Are you sure?
Someone answer Shane pls
It's fun to play with I have a god tier columnus but want to mix things up
Top 1% sedition yes
Hmmmmmm
I would try laspistol instead. Fun to shoot but still has some weakness
Columnus is too meta for my taste
Check atheneum
In pins
For the smg
Muh meta slave
Blessing
I have a nice las pistol but the constant clicking hurts my wrist lol
There's a auto shoot mod
Oh
30 mins sedition game example
If you don't have mouse software for macros
Full auto mod my beloved
I will check that out ty
Full auto mod is a life saver
I think sedition is the only difficulty I can keep up with if I play with you
Too many info, canโt read
The ping was insane
Especially on the lasguns
Don't need to break your finger using the Lasgun MG anymore
can smite crit and affect this? or will only non-warp crits activate it?
Plasteels is the only important stat. I got 575 by myself. 
Warp crit affects
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But idk if smite can crot
Pog
Talking about plasteel
Doing the emperor's work
I should enable it
Iโm broke on plasteel
I disabled plasteel for ovenproof because I set up ovenproof when I was like +0 on ogryn
Where's the undodgeable crushers guy I'd love to see his scoreboard. 
Crusher enemy or crusher zealot?
Just to have more things to shoot
If they are far away
Enemies. Maulers and ragers too.
Hmm. Near or far I shoot
He had trouble with dodging them or something.
Else sometimes I gets too boring
Sometime I shoot 3x rager even if there is a mixed horde with crusher and bulwark on us already
I donโt shoot patrol of ogryn bulwark or crushers
They are bears not want to wake
Yeah oggies are the only patrol I don't shoot because take too long to kill
I would shoot 6 ragers though
I'm a bad player...
Ragers easy
I'm too scared for that. 
For zealots
For psyker too
Rager after nerf was OK. But now they nerf spawn rate for elites as well
I haven't see. 6 crushers or 6 ragers recently. Only seen them on p14
That shit make team wipe
Only when hi intensity
I'm playing a5histg and a5mael
Low intensity sedition gang.
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I want to see 6 ragers again
Goddam
I only see those very rarely. Usually on defence areas
wdym, just today I had stacks of ragers and groups of crushers
I think they nerf after community rant and complain
Youโre lucky
I get 3+3 yeah but no longer 6
ragers can come in groups of like 20
Aren't those on defence area
not sure what you mean by that
no, just in patrols
Wow I want your game
Heโs playing Baldur gate 3
Good luck staying alive
I had a shit load of dreg ragers slowly trickle in while playing one of the throneside maps and a short while later had a full patrol of like 20 scab ragers in a torrent map
both today
Lmao
Nah the slowly tricking in one isn't that bad especially on psyker
I get alot of 12+ gunner though
I dive bomb them on zealot and the. Die after killing half
Everything I tell myself I can do it
Solo
Now it's better because I have kant
imagine if psyker cosmetics didn't suck
They had alright ones like 9 months ago
My red sparkly robe is the sex
I like this set, but the headpiece that normally comes with it sucks
i want the pants
i wanted this set and bought the wrong swet lol
@plucky flax hory shet actually fun and not hard to do
Defo need to rebind nade key, but not sure what to rebind it to
i just need the pants
@urban sandal
canb i borrow ur pants

that'll be 300 plasteel per match you wear them 
I use that robe with the black skull mask

you know what would be cool?
if they gave you +5% crit chance for cancelling
but on surge hwo you kill gunner
Surge blessing on surge would be very cool for blitz cancel.
wait are the draps from the shirt or the pants
Shirt
New skin this week right?
ah dang
yeah savlar chem dogs
agent, quite sad tbh
i have to rebind my weapon swap keys as well since fs doesnt allow like more than 1 keybind
very sad
Was linked above
Oh new skins are out?
if i were to play surge
Shieet gotta check.
Q and E are melee and ranged for me
there were a few times when i panicked and pressed the wrong number because mentally void staff should be my primary and i was so confused xD
so i switched 1 to swap weapons
"Premium" 
Do these masks have the demonic voice filter though?
all of them looks pretty trash
2 regular sets, 1 โpremium super duper ultra qualityโ set
I like the Vetโs coat, because itโs just a nice coat
A vast improvement over the XXXXL-sized commissarโs coat
freaking laspistol skin
Ultra gimp. I would buy if it has demonic voice.
But I don't want to test 1400 aquila. D:
yeah i don't believe these deserve the premium thingy
agent, surge need to god roll too? :v
High damage and high crit bonus. The charge rate doesn't scale that much. So high 60 something is good enough.
High warp resist and quell is good too since it's very peril intensive.
T3 blessings are okay. Scaling of nexus and flurry are not big.
what do you want on trauma?
Everything high 
help me?
other guy i don't rememeber the name of said for blaze T
radius 80, charge 80, damage 75/76, enough to 1 tap bruiser
agent says all 80 
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Check pinned comment.
Diff Staves, Swords, preferred perks/blessings for diff builds.
It's pretty good looking base-stats there tho'.
Guy must be a noob. (It was probably me)
also, non seriousi qn
why surge no surge blessing?
it would be functionally bery simialr to void surg
Well it's okay. I'd change both blessings depend on what kind of trauma build you want.
he said hje was talking to you about blaze trauma
i'd consider rerolling both blessings since i think generally you want rending shockwave/warp flurry or blazing spirit/warp nexus, depending on build
and +flak is fine, although +unyielding is meh
is rending shockwave even useful
terrifying barrage and sustained fire both kinda don't do much on trauma, because trauma already has great suppression (both lmb and rmb) and sustained fire iirc only works on lmb spam?
idk i don't hate it
it makes my dps number look small tho
You can pretend you're helping team (they won't take advantage of it)
Accurate representation
I guess you gotta imagine who would be using 'unyeilding'
- DH (speed): good luck
- BoN(slow): everyone's hitting it like a piรฑata, anyway
- CSpawn, Plogryn (erratic): ymmv, but it's a pretty rare sitution in your mission-run.
But in a coordinated setting? Potentially very good value
Orโฆ decent at least
Blaze Trauma will probably still come out on top
yeah i find i get ok dps vs cspawn/plogryn with lmb spam with blazing spirit and you can weave it in with melee attacks if you're dodge tanking but i'd generally kinda just prefer that someone else deal with monstrosities on trauma staff
the main target you do trauma a lot that's unyielding i'd say are actually bulwarks
but bulwarks are usually not as much of a dps race IMO
I find these tactics work best:
- psyker dome to keep toughness up.
- VoC to reduce movemovent
- >> Chorus << serious BRITTLENESS MVP (watch that them take 2-3x damage from all sources, if you time it with your teams attacks)
wait does chorus apply brittleness
i am a dome denier
i haven't played zealot since week 1 of skill tree
i've probably used chorus like twice total
i have played it only on twins
me too tbh
to help cover the run across the gas
hardmode twins also really benefits from having dome bc it spawns fucking guardsmen and shotgunners across a giant room with no cover in it
there's ogryn shout too
what, the taunt?
Probably not - but I dunno how else to discribe it.
- your teammates attacks do 3x damage.
- only effective during and a couple o f seconds afterwards
Apply Chorus to a ChaowSpawn, Plogryn or DH,
- watch them slow down.
- time it after your teammates reload and are about to unload.
- watch that healthbar melt
what
iirc if you just stand in the middle of the room with Big Taunt it taunts literally everything when you hit the button
which hard carries twins since the twins themselves are tauntable?
yeah i think this is definitely true in almost every situation
unless you have 3 teammates with no carapace damage in their kits or something
like idk 3 lasgun devilclaw shredder vets
This is the grim dark future of the 41st millennium
tbf that's probably like, Standard Guardsman kit or some shit
Might aswell be nothing
i think most of the toughness it regens for me is the toughness i'm not losing because it's blocking sustianed fire from like 6 gunners
it also, for some reason, stops mutants
which i'm pretty sure is a bug
but it's been doing that for 2 patches at least
and a fight mighe be 20s, and if you spend 10s in thta dome. you get 100% toughness. Like an extra VoC
i think dome is strong i just don't like it... aesthetically i guess?
probably some left over effect from the wall since they stop mutants in the epicenter
It's super strong
wherever you aim to place it is where that effect is
Especially when the primary scary enemy is gunners
I don't like dome's shimmer that obscures targetting.
But it's the best.
yeah it's just weird because flatwall specifically has a "this stops specials" perk attached to it, and yet dome also stops probably the second-most-useful special to stop
I reckon they were inspired by the Astartes animation when making the effect of bullets hitting the bubble
looks almost the exact same
yeah I get you
i actually love that you can see the bullets stop and then fall to the ground
Then
There's the bubble bonus is invalidating nets, flamers, and BoN's
Honestly why the flat wall is kinda dumb
The Wall is terrible against elite-packs(non-gunfire).
- each push degrades the wall life-span
oh yeah i think dome > wall for sure
Tanking the uptime is dumb
i'm just pretty sure dome stopping mutants isn't intentional
given that wall has "this stops mutants" as a perk
Yeah probably
But Mutant jank is just one of those things
He hits walls that don't exist all the time
Probably just Fatshark intentionally erring for the player's favor because the OG mutant was toxic
tbh i like this better than when he used to perfectly 180 on a dime to grab me out of a dodge
yeah
Yeah lmao
Remember when he'd follow you over tables
And take sharp corners on a dime
Bro be drifting
oh yeah i had some funny clips back in the day from vaulting back and forth across a windowsill and having the mutant just 180 instantly in place
Perfect tracking chads
Also I get you ye
I'd use scream again once gunners and shooters stop stun locking with their shots
The fact that a small pack of them can basically give you arthritis is pretty toxic
shooters have gradually become my most hated enemy
They were pretty bad before
oh my god this shit is the worst
I think it's because of the revolver/plasma meta so no one is killing them anymore
i already lose my entire toughness bar from like 1 guardsman volley
But current patch they basically stunlock you the moment they hit
Instead of before where you only get that if you're out of toughness
now i'm guaranteed to take 2-3 every time because of the stun
Yeah
RNG giving these +3stam ones out like candy on my Psyker, could do +9 curio setup already
Not sure if deliberate or not
But they're awful
Do it
For science?
Crack head knife zealot gaming 
I'm rocking 9 stamina, stamina regen and gunner toughness with the knife

I can sprint everywhere
And never get tired
6 guardsmen spread out in a big room is the fucking worst thing in this game
The science has been done. It's funny but in no way worth it
It's pretty solid ngl
right
But I'm biased because I like my shoves
So for practical purposes, just one of those is good?
1 is good for most stuff yes
Unless you're crazy like me
Usually safer to go stamina+ toughness though if you want
iirc with knife and ds4 at least if you do the heavy attack movetechs you actually regen slightly more stamina during the slide than you use up
Im liking it on my Veteran to have +3 as got that talent which uses stamina to do ranged crits when ADS'ing, also dodgeslides for days going backwards while shooting at enemy
Yup
It's pretty funny
Also why I prefer the knife atm
The new knife push shove attack is incredibly safe and gets rids of elites
knife is the best repositioning tool but i really like 1.1-shotting mutants with my ds4
The heavy attack move tech doesn't affect the stam you regain, but yes, you can slide continuously while gaining stam
My veteran has knife just because its so far been the only good rolled weapon dropped from shop (in 2 days) and i had lvl 4 precog+uncanny blessings for it
Same
That's what I miss moving from knife
yeah i guess probably more accurate to say "with the more mobile weapons like knife or ds4, you regain more stamina during the slide than you use up, and also you can movetech with them" or something
Can't 1shot mutanta with a heavy
i actually have no idea if you can do this with something slower
you probably can but i haven't used anything other than knife or ds4 for months
But I do like the control that knife gives tbh
is this new knife
i actually have not tried new knife
for a while i was running lacerate on the old knife because i wanted a boss-soloing tool
and it was ok
Just push attack + heavy
And you kill hordes
Completely brainless
Downside is you only clear elites reliable with push attacks
I'd say that's even more wrong, the speed of your weapon doesn't change that you regain stam between slides and can net gain while sprint sliding
Or you use alt fire into overheads lol
Running new knife on my Vet, mk3 on Zealot
does dodge distance modifier/sprint speed modifier not affect slide time
But when you're rocking yeh trauma staff
Elites don't matter anyway
New knife is just for defensive use + safety
hmm also does sprint efficiency not matter
Started week ago quest for blazing spirit for trauma staff, still ongoing, about 20-30 staffs later
And you can still duel bosses with new knife
sorry
Odds are already against me at this point i guess

Its ok, i got good Voidstrike to fill the void and disappointment
The slide time is irrelevant. You start gaining stam as you stand up from the slide.
hmm i should try it, i just spent like 2m dockets rolling for power cycler 4 (and not getting it) tho so i'm a bit turned off the gear grind
I like it myself
cool, didn't know that
Better than old knife
do you not run toughness or something
But that's preference
Thats too ahead of me right now, Vet just got lvl 30
generally i run +stam +hp +toughness
New gunners basically don't care about toughness tbf
They stun lock you anyway
what's your total toughness
I run 2 toughness and still nearly get toughness broken from 1 salvo
stark contrast to ogryn that can take like 7
Current gunners do make you take the burst lol
Kitchen Psyker, making the most psykadelicious meals for you
So it makes sense
well i get stunned because shooters stun you even when you have toughness up right now, but i have 109 toughness
It's impossible.
Mine is as close as perfect I guess.
shooters only stun you when you have toughness if you're sprinting
are we talking shooters or gunners
Arco people are turning gray you need to escape while you still can
also that seems freakishly low
wtf
basic shooters
rip exhiolek
I can't put reactions on people anymore Arco
gunners also do it but i'm better at noticing them
I can't post images
hmm is someone doing shenanigans with bots?
they just added a new bot
cringe
๐

Ew, more gray people
Im only looking for the blessing ๐ญ
Oh then that's unfortunate.
You will be dust like the rest of us
Death
idk i'm probably leaving about 30 toughness in nodes on the table? i have 90 toughness without curios
surrounded by greys 
Daguq I'm looking at?
mostly i rely on 30% toughness DR
YOU ARE BUT A SPEC OF DUST
uh oh
what's the lore behind becoming grey
You've come out as gray
interesting
verification, huh
skill issue
gaming
what the fuck is this
it's curse..?
gaming
Buzzing potato gaming
Janfon's shitpost senses tingled
stick close to the light
I would post context but I'm no longer able to post images
cheese
so sad
a5histg, +3 vet who uses pfoom pfoom gun + psword
- shoots poxyb point blank
- powers up psword, waits too long, then slashes mutie 6 times unpowered
NO EMBEDS
oh ok
powerful
which gun is the pfoom pfoom gun
idk any vet
and he was even in my a5mael game
is this another "vets who forgot what melee is" meme
plasmagun
Search "Dap me up" in gifs and look at the first result
plasma my beloathed
oh that's literally me then
well except i use the devil claw
and sometimes i try to parry mutants
because my brain short circuited
alot of the vets i meet have the perfect meta loadout but can't do stuff even people in malice can do
yessir
plasma gun brain rot
can't dodge dog, can't shove poxyb
i unironically have tried to parry dogs before too
i think devilclaw just gets you in a parry mindset
canm you parry doggie?
it's a disease, a mind virus
no lol
well if you can i've never done it successfully
I was testing stuff in sedition for stamina curios and I found 3 level 41 players who sucked balls. Like, meta weapons but bad perks and blessings on them + general lack of skill it was so odd
Herecy
parry this 
I think you can parry the knock when dogs run into you but not the pounce
not sure about that tho
the vet i said is such a staple here in SEA its annoying
bad perks and blessings in sedition is not surprising
malize
i didn't cherck his blessings though
i also noticed that if you parry a mauler or crusher overhead it blocks it but doesn't riposte
i was allt tabbed
but i guess it's still better than instantly dying
i now understand the vet main is dumb meme
I still get auric games with people using wound curios unironically
But they were like 530+ rolls with full bad shit I'm convinced I was imagining it.
wait why are level 41 with 530 in sedition
sedition is level 1?
or level 2
huh?
idk maybe they could just be very chill dudes
:(
exhil did you get possessed
grey no more
kill him
welcome back sibling
i guess i am about to be vaporized then
why did yo utype i am back
what is a convict role
jail

We need some "I survived the Darktide dust event 2024" shirts.
i really like the shirrt and pants but the mroe i look at it the more ugly it gets
Still my main and only zealot cosmetic set though
new mask change voice
gotta differentiate ourselves from the rest
demonic?
Ubi one kebab is lucky they don't shoot both hands at once
hopw much is that
bout tree fiddy
is it one of those that make your hair look stupid?

I wish I could play as demonhost. More psychic power.
u wanna start a carrier as asmr content creator?

i want double staff and two peril meters
inverse peril
only way to quell
idk
double staff is still cool
havijng two peril meters (without the invert) would add some complexity as well
non gunker psyker too easy to play atm imo
Not everyone is good like you 
play as pacifist
me me just average skill
and only force sword push
all i do on psyker is just right click left lick and then press spacebar to quell
agent
ahvey ou ever
do really dumb shit to see how ur team react
2 hard
pacificist runs seem pretty hard
genuinely
you need toi know clearly where all the doors are
Yes all the time.
Not just all the doors
They just don't understand my higher purpose.
they are funny tho, bully the enemies!
like whacking a single bulwark shield for 15 seconds?
You also need to be able to loop stuff
Because some elevators will refuse to move.if enemies are on it
i have never done that but i can't say it didnt cross my mind
damn
oh yeah/
like imagine midway the game
you are top chart
then you go melee a bulwark for 15 seconds
watch a movie with the bulwark for 15 seconds
psyker force sword block shoud l block barrel
that way we have 1 more movement tech
tango with builwark with your team and 6 crushers at the back as audience
no no also watch a movie with them and make it a movie marathon
anyone knows what perks/blessings good for Voidstrike staff?
