#psyker-class

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long wharf
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at the same time, veterans were abusing recon lasguns with flame again

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and with the rending talent nodes, getting it to be good again

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so FartShack had to put the kibosh on that as well

wet belfry
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I never understood veterans fasinciation with the recon lasgun

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I think it sounds like the most lame weapon possible

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Its just a weapon that shoots out a laser, without any form of recoil.

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If it actually was good it would be boring to play.

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The punishment for missing with it is minimal since the weapons firerate is so high and its also extremely hard to miss to begin with.

long wharf
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because lasguns are half the reason why WH40k fans play Darktide

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and a lasgun that shoots so fast that it's essentially a constant beam is fun

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especially with the vet that can make it pinpoint accurate

meager moon
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just played a match where I was ogryn and the poor psyker was having a bad time, peril overloaded like 5 times
veteran was chewing him out for it and being a dick: "stop peril overloading you're so bad"
chad psyker: "i peril overloaded your gf last night"

long wharf
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bold of him to think the veteran player has a gf

meager moon
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lmao

half turtle
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ngl i wish flayer had lower icd so i could spam it with recon lasgun

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i generally find "stream of laser" to be pretty fun even though it feels a bit weak on vet due to my lack of skill

rare mesa
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what melee do u like when running purg staff

potent echo
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Deimos

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But I always run deimos

rare mesa
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which blessings do u like on it

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sometimes i bring it for deflector but i never need it

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so waste... thinking about dropping it

potent echo
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Always uncanny

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Burn boss, switch melee, activate uncanny

wind spruce
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Executor is good on deimos as it has the same property of uncanny strike where in it will build stacks during the special activation

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Or just take slaughterer

rare mesa
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thx

ornate hamlet
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I'm addicted to new knife.

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New knife + trauma + bubble = I can kill everything

Help

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I've become an average Londoner ๐Ÿ˜”

wind spruce
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Knife is my new love too

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What blessings/perks you cooking with

ornate hamlet
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Using rending on weakspot atm

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And I think you maybe have to use a bleed blessing or just power on weak spot

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But either should work

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Former helps with bosses if you ever need to poke it to death

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The latter helps with mauler/crusher consistency kills I think. Probably cuts down your push shove stabs by a few strikes

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It's basically my go to solo auric build though

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Have answers for everything except maybe sniping far off elites like gunners.

ornate hamlet
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Is smite overrated?

paper harbor
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Smite useful for certain situation

ornate hamlet
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That is fair

worldly iron
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its good on some auric missions where corridors or hallways make being surrounded a pain

ionic needle
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Smite is good for popping bursters and opening bulwarks, any other problem can be solved with some good old ultra violence

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Aka new knife and columnus

umbral helm
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the answer to "is X good" is almost always "depends what you use it for"

ornate hamlet
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Trauma just does like 80% of what you want a weapon to do though.

urban sandal
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trauma do be the best

ornate hamlet
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CC's big boys, kills hordes, reliably destroys shotgunners, ragers, bulwarks, gunners, and is high aoe

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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Yeah voidstrike is pretty solid.

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It's clunky at times but I'm not gonna call the weapon that can 1shot a crusher long range "bad"

untold niche
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No clunky

ornate hamlet
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Honestly I think all the staves except purgatus are solid

umbral helm
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hence "almost"

untold niche
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I know I just wanted to say that haha

ornate hamlet
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Only Purg is I'm a weird spot rn

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But that's cos horde clearing is not only a kinda boring job, it's also not really that difficult to do

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and it doesn't clear mixed hordes as safely as Trauma so
Ehh

untold niche
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They should make horde clearing painful again. Then horde clear builds can finally shine

umbral helm
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again, depends what you use it for. or, more often, how you use it.

untold niche
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I feel alot of builds have everything. I don't know if that is what they are going for

ornate hamlet
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It would make horde weapons like claw a lot better

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Just because they stop being "I use it cos I feel lazy"

ornate hamlet
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Unless you're the recon las, you tend to always have a niche you can reliably slot into

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But the discussion of certain weapons not being as sought after is a valid evaluation of how "good" they are overall

untold niche
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Like they could make voidstrike cleave through three zomvies at max

ornate hamlet
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Zealot Flamer for instance is fantastic

umbral helm
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you'd be surprised with some teams you get, even in aurics. somehow people manage to not be good at clearing in the game about it

ornate hamlet
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But it's also "terrible"

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Because using it has such a heavy drawback

ornate hamlet
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Not everyone has put it 1k hours total in tide games kek

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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I think I'm at a combined 700+ hours now for vt2 + darktide combined

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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All the issues here i seen ( e.g. help I can't go damnation) seems to be build issues more of anything

ornate hamlet
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Tho I'd say that build issues just come part and parcel of not having enough experience in the game's harder modes.

umbral helm
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yeah, but the point was about its role not being sought after. there are games where it is, depends on the player. but, I also play whatever I'm in the mood for as opposed to whatever's needed, typically. unless directly asked

ornate hamlet
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You don't need to optimize to clear aurics anyway

untold niche
ornate hamlet
untold niche
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By right voidstrike only weakness is having bad close range horde clear surrounded.

But then we get illisi

ornate hamlet
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But I'm not going to pretend that someone who's going to bring a recon las is going to be doing much for instance

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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I'm not gonna flame him for it if he finds it fun

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But I'm not gonna think it's any good

ornate hamlet
umbral helm
ornate hamlet
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Only thing that sets me off are people who intentionally troll hard

untold niche
ornate hamlet
untold niche
ornate hamlet
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Take flamer for instance

untold niche
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Or just remove or add stuff

radiant frigate
untold niche
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You get what I mean.

ornate hamlet
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If you bring flamer, stun nade, and claw

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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How are you gonna kill gunners or trappers or snipers?

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You don't

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So you're either going to have to put much more effort into getting rid of them or hoping your team does it

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Which in pub context, is like leaving it rng to Tzeentch and hoping he's not going to give you people who wipe to 1 trapper kek

radiant frigate
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not too fond of "ranged" weapons that are just glorified melee horde clear

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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I personally would prefer more defined roles.
Buy of course end of the day it comes down to execution. If the devs execute it poorly now game sucks to play because teammate can't do their job

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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I see. So not likely then.

ornate hamlet
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Especially by end game /cata where armor piercing is just dominant

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It's just what happens when your strongest, toughest enemies are also of a certain armor type

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Your weapon picks get skewed towards dealing with them consistently

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Because you can outplay hordes with shoves and kiting

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But you're not going to be able to outplay the game going I hope you can deal with carapace checks

radiant frigate
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dual swords ๐Ÿ’€

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chaos patrol be upon ye

ornate hamlet
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Combine that with specials being the real "run enders" and you can see why it's skewed towards armor piercing+sniping

untold niche
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I haven't play vet but I think.
With context to being able to play a5mael or a5histg

Void psyker has a higher skill floor but lower skill ceiling

Zealot has lower skill floor but higher skill ceiling ( zealot has waay more interactions to keep in mind than psykee in general)

Ogryn is ogryn.

ornate hamlet
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Devs just lmaoing at dual swords

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It's even funnier when the regular elf sword clears elites better than the dual swords too

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( heavy overhead into light stab )

umbral helm
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I think this is partially the game's fault, because it does try to present itself as a team-heavy experience, and honestly the games where everyone I was playing with leaned into that concept were more fun than normal, admittedly. but, current end-game balancing of "just throw all the shit at them at once" does shoehorn most builds a certain direction

ornate hamlet
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๐Ÿคฆโ€โ™‚๏ธ

ornate hamlet
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The other part is the fact there are people who solo/duo the game kek

radiant frigate
untold niche
ornate hamlet
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And have consistently shown that just being prepared and patient CAN'T beat everybody

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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They only clear hordes slightly worse

radiant frigate
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smoothest runs i have experienced were when everyone was engaging in melee

ornate hamlet
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But they actually have that overpowered push shove attack into overhead heavy that 1-2shots stuff

radiant frigate
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Yes

ornate hamlet
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It's peak "I didn't think about it" from dev side lmao

radiant frigate
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not all weapons were made equal

untold niche
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Smoothest run was when some 400+ was pinging where to go next for those more confusing maps and people listened

ornate hamlet
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Tho considering the original BH had crit refreshes on melee kills

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Well

untold niche
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I have bad sense of direction so I can't do that sadly

umbral helm
ornate hamlet
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Fundamentals are honestly not that hard either

ornate hamlet
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A lot of it is "hold block"

untold niche
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Though some people apparently were worse. I have seen people drop down that starting elevator hatch, then walk up the half floor stairs right back into spawn

radiant frigate
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i only really block on monsters tbh

untold niche
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Block in

ornate hamlet
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I always hold block when I'm moving around

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I don't block attacks

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But I always block and side dodge as a reflex moving around

untold niche
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Hold block can't regen stamina. Can't eu.

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Run

ornate hamlet
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It's good fundementals

radiant frigate
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rat-induced PTSD

umbral helm
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hm

untold niche
umbral helm
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replied to the wrong one

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haven't had that bug in a while

ornate hamlet
radiant frigate
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why

umbral helm
ornate hamlet
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Defensive movement is the most important skill in all tide games

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Offensive is extremely easy

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Defensive movement is much harder to learn

upper sun
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I wish liveleech had another insignia tier

radiant frigate
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yes but blocking barely comes into play in DT

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pretty much only when ressing someone

untold niche
# ornate hamlet No it's very good actually

As in I don't mean it's bad. I just don't think it's a fundamental.

For me DT fundamental is just knowing how to react to stuff ( e.g. shove poxyb) and kill priority which will come naturally anyway

I half ass all my melee by slashing twice, sometimes pushing sometimes dodge sometimes both.
On psyker.

ornate hamlet
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It's one of the first rules of vt2 solo more or less kek

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Learning good movement

upper sun
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deflector is a really nice so is the double stun push on force swords

ornate hamlet
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But that's just me

radiant frigate
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i would argue that vt2 had way more blocking

ornate hamlet
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Only a little bit

radiant frigate
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since you could facetank considerably less

untold niche
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I heard you actually needed to block in vt2 as well

ornate hamlet
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Even in vt2

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You were better at push shoving

umbral helm
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I'll be honest, I've never touched deflector and at this point it's funnier to me to continue not using it, because of how often it's praised

ornate hamlet
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You didn't want to block in vt2

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Because you don't actually get rid of enemies by blocking

radiant frigate
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yeah but you can't alternate that with your dodges in DT

untold niche
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Even on my zealot I never hold block. I do hold shift alot to run though

ornate hamlet
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Blocking is just a safety move during dodges

upper sun
umbral helm
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I bet I can, but spite for the sake of amusing myself is a powerful thing

untold niche
ornate hamlet
untold niche
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I have deector 4 and kd as well

upper sun
ornate hamlet
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Pretty much why new knife is absolutely busted though

radiant frigate
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because you will run out

ornate hamlet
radiant frigate
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can't do your little dance and push spam because your stamina won't regen

ornate hamlet
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Those are just safety nets to learn at first until your fundementals are down

untold niche
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Either way. You said you hold block so you train yourself to side dodge more. That is not what a fundamental is imo

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:v

ornate hamlet
umbral helm
ornate hamlet
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This is just self taught from soloing vt2

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Defensive play is just the fundamental skill anyone should learn over everything else in the end is my point

radiant frigate
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i would agree that the block during dodge is for figuring out what you can and cannot get away with, so you can then replace the block with attacks during dodging when you can get away with it

ornate hamlet
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Because spamming left click is extremely easy

untold niche
ornate hamlet
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But knowing when it's safe to do it is a learned skill since you actually need to control what you're hitting

ornate hamlet
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Shoves, blocks, and the ability to move around more are basically the only stats worth having imo

untold niche
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I feel darktide left click pretty brainless
I always just do 2 left click then do a defensive move or both defensive moves

radiant frigate
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i wanna say that stamina barely matters (on psyker)

ornate hamlet
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Specially when they moved the thresholds to weapons

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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I'm certain you are a better player than me if you can solo this game / VT2. I just feel like it's not important to do that to be able to win and top chart in a5mael/a5histg

ornate hamlet
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But the reality is that there's only like 2 stats worth having on curios anyway

radiant frigate
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and if you don't, you are sitting at 2-3 stamina otherwise

ornate hamlet
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It's just toughness, or stamina for main stats imo

untold niche
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I have vets on a5mael not knowing they can dodge dogs.

ornate hamlet
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But I don't intend to get hit so whatthefuck_heresy

radiant frigate
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i don't intend to get into a car crash so why use a seatbelt

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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Ogryns not shoving poxbursters

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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A5mael/histg btw

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People not killing the flamer 2 meters away before reviving

ornate hamlet
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Darktide / Vermintide 2 with the right movement still doesn't fuck you over as hard as random chance does irl

umbral helm
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"just don't get hit" would be a sentiment I'd agree with more often if the people that usually said it would, y'know. do that

ornate hamlet
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And the difference in punishment is far greater

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You get hit by a car without a seatbelt you're probably dead

untold niche
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I genuinely don't know how to not get hit if they is huge horde and surrounded like defence mission. Some zomvies do that super slow attack that hit you on dodge end.

ornate hamlet
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You get hit by a slap in darktide, you don't lose hp until the 2nd one if you're at full toughness

untold niche
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Which you might not have stamina to push attack

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Push*

ornate hamlet
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That's several orders of magnitude greater in punishment

radiant frigate
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Yes

ornate hamlet
radiant frigate
ornate hamlet
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But that's dependent on space and if they're mixed or not

untold niche
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That is a very high level answer that doesn't explain much

ornate hamlet
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Basically the generic answer is

untold niche
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XD

ornate hamlet
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Enemies have 2 kinds of attacks

untold niche
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Sorry I should not have used full stop

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That was very rude

ornate hamlet
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A running one that tracks you

radiant frigate
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smite the heretic, eat a slap here or there, regenerate your toughness, continue slapping

ornate hamlet
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And the other is "I attack where you are atm by sitting still"

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You basically just want to cycle them into the latter

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( by constantly walking and dodging to make them hit air )

untold niche
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The attack while standing still has a slow and fast/normal variant I'm pretty sure

ornate hamlet
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Because if they start doing the running attack that's harder to dodge

untold niche
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That zombie one meter away from you can do the slow variant that you dodge into

ornate hamlet
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Because you can easily dodge/shove those as they don't move

radiant frigate
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most things do not live long enough to really attack you tbh

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except elites

ornate hamlet
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The running tracking attack can come out of your shove/attack range and still hit you

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Ye

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It was much worse in vt2

untold niche
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Yeah my point is it's not possible to never get hit in a surrounded horde with just melee

Because if you have other tools would just just nade or use your ult

ornate hamlet
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In darktide the most dangerous enemies are the one shot crushers/mauler overhead, and gunners mostly

radiant frigate
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rat game considerably more difficult

ornate hamlet
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Hordes are much nicer

untold niche
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DT my worst enemy is poxybursters

ornate hamlet
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Silent bursters, ye

untold niche
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Or ones that explode on your teammate and you are close enough.

ornate hamlet
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Normal bursters can be hellish if your team is bad tho LMAO

untold niche
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Next would prob be 12 gunners

ornate hamlet
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Which is why my helpful auric tip is if your team sucks, stay away from them

untold niche
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Anything else isn't "dangerous" more like something to deal with

ornate hamlet
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I've had enough games where they shoot bursters in my face, or fail to shove it and kill us all from it

clear bridge
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silent trapper is a nightmare

untold niche
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Your tips seem to me to be very ehats the word. Something like specific...
Specific + negative connotation just because you want to do things a certain way / strongly believe in something

clear bridge
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especially as ogryn

ornate hamlet
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Since they stun you even during full toughness

ornate hamlet
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But I just practice good social distancing in general in Darktide

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Tends to be easier for me when I don't have to worry about teammates randomly funneling aggro into me because they use stealth zealot/vet

plucky flax
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I am the stealth zealot.

ornate hamlet
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Nothing's worse than not knowing if the trapper or crusher is aiming at you, or your teammate, so I just take the safe option and either go at the front, or way at the back

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That way I'm not surprised if I see an enemy running, since I know I'm always the main target

untold niche
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Actually that's why I play front line void.
Easier to kill ragers than have my team stumble them continuously perpendicular to me

ornate hamlet
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Jk
No hate if you enjoy that

ornate hamlet
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Also because I actually tag stuff lol

untold niche
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I mean I agree it's good practice to stay away from teammates when there is a burster but I wouldn't advice my friends to stay away from teammates .

ornate hamlet
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I can't tell you how annoyed I am when someone else.is at point, but they don't tag the 9 crushers in the room

plucky flax
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If I don't play stealth zealot in hab dreyko the finale become super hard.

untold niche
untold niche
ornate hamlet
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I always tag stuff myself
Red outline makes it easier for me to track their movements

untold niche
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But I do tag 6 crushers and run away

ornate hamlet
untold niche
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But if someone bring 6 crushers to me I wouldn't be mad at him even if I die

plucky flax
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Green outline gang

ornate hamlet
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New knife gives me the speed and safety to do objectives

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Because my team refuses to do it

plucky flax
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It's tru

untold niche
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I'd it's a running away trapper I can't kill then I tag

ornate hamlet
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Push shove + heavy on new knife is fantastic for hordes ( even mixed hordes )

untold niche
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I'd I think I can't kill

ornate hamlet
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Don't need to obsessively tag like I do

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cold ivy
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against horde i usually loop the following two:

  1. side dodge while attacking until you almost have no dodges left, leave a tiny bit of space between each dodge for your stamina to come back
  2. when you're gonna run out of dodges, dodge back a bit and hold block until your dodges come back (should be under a second)
ornate hamlet
untold niche
ornate hamlet
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So push shove into heavy does a lot of cleave

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And knocks over stuff it doesn't kill

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And the new knife push shove is very good at killing specials too

untold niche
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Yeah loopable horizontal heavies... xD

ornate hamlet
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( since it's a short stab )

plucky flax
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Bleed knife my beloved

untold niche
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That's ogryn level

ornate hamlet
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Older knife is still better at elites

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But you do sacrifice the safety since your horde clear is all lights

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So you need to weave a lot more dodges and shoves if the horde is dense enough

untold niche
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No need to run mobility melee if I'm 99% on my staff anyway :p

plucky flax
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I play both knives on zealot.

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Just depend on mood.

ornate hamlet
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I use new knife + trauma

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Knife dodge distance+ dodge count being at 6 means I can loop crushers for days

untold niche
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When I run blaze t I would go ds4

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What nade you run on BT agent

ornate hamlet
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I think ds4 is also fantastic tbh

plucky flax
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What's bt?

untold niche
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Blaze trauma

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Phone hard to type

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Forgive

ornate hamlet
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Just that I've been doing the objectives a lot

plucky flax
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You mean blitz?

untold niche
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Yeah

plucky flax
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Bb but rarely ever use it.

untold niche
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What blitz you run on blaze trauma*

plucky flax
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I use left click way more to kill specials.

ornate hamlet
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So I prefer the knife safety over the ds4's general ability to kill special more

radiant frigate
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i mostly use brain burst for bosses

ornate hamlet
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I have it on assail though

untold niche
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I like illisi because I know when I take out my melee immediate horde dies

ornate hamlet
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Since it's center of the tree

ornate hamlet
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And I can kill bosses with the knife

radiant frigate
untold niche
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Are not running blaze trauma. Think there'd like 2 other trauma build rite

ornate hamlet
plucky flax
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Yeah only for monster. But for bonbon right click on trauma is better than bb

ornate hamlet
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So I just stab it a llt

untold niche
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Game should make support builds more fun to play and less brain dead for people to play around

ornate hamlet
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Bubble protects from the puke which means he doesn't grab you

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Just need to not get tail swiped

untold niche
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Playing with a smite support player I might as well play sedition

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In fact sedition is provably harder

plucky flax
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If you're on crack play surge like this
https://youtu.be/sz7L0QuU6Us

My fingers hurt from doing blitz cancel. D:
Yes weapon customisation mod still screws up the vfx. :c
Patch 1.2.22
Magistrati Oubliette TM8-707 ยท Assassination ยท Damnation ยท Hi-Intensity Shock Troop & Mutants Gauntlet (Hunting Grounds) (Cooldowns Reduced)
Loadout: MK IV Duelling Sword / Smite / Force Surge Staff

00:00 Build
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โ–ถ Play video
ornate hamlet
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Well on sedition/malice your teammates are probably worse

plucky flax
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Watch your fingers

ornate hamlet
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So you'll get more time being alone lol

untold niche
paper harbor
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I been sedation some round I met knife psyker speed runner

ornate hamlet
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Enemy density is very poor though so you'll probably die of boredom

plucky flax
paper harbor
untold niche
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Freaking agent tempting me to grind for new cool stuff every time

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I hate that guy

ornate hamlet
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I'm so mad one game where I finished one of the assassination missions

paper harbor
ornate hamlet
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Snd then at the end where you wait for like 10 seconds for the game to end

paper harbor
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Or melee

plucky flax
ornate hamlet
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Someone exploded the barrel and yeeted himself to the void

radiant frigate
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ah, great

ornate hamlet
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๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

radiant frigate
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QQ cancel

ornate hamlet
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I'm actually having more issues atm finishing the "kill 1000 enemies in melee"

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I keep running into purgatus and trauma psykers

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So I can't complete it

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

paper harbor
ornate hamlet
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Ye it's one for those kill 1k dregs in melee

untold niche
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OK does the long video explain the keyboard input

paper harbor
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Is get boring and slow progressing kill 1000 Dreg or scab

untold niche
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I'm going to try it when I reach home

ornate hamlet
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Awful missions tbh

paper harbor
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Which I prefer easier no player death or finish mission task

ornate hamlet
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But I don't grind out Melk nowadays

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I just do whatever

paper harbor
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As long donโ€™t focus on melk

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And you build up token

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Slowly

untold niche
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I check Melk for impossible missions like no player death or melee if I'm playing psyker then reroll and just play the game normally

plucky flax
untold niche
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I always magically finish all

paper harbor
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I met level 20-30 most times

paper loom
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What are decent perks/blessings for the smg?

untold niche
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I'm not going to waste my time playing uprising or sedition

ornate hamlet
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I'm at like 25k Melk bucks again I think

radiant frigate
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no enemies

ornate hamlet
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I'd rather not finish melk and have fun than do 8 sedition missions

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For no deaths

paper harbor
paper loom
paper harbor
ornate hamlet
#

Ordos are a joke currency

plucky flax
paper harbor
#

Oof

#

I used to be in malice

ornate hamlet
#

Honestly pretty annoying on Fatshark's part

#

Went from decent missions

#

To absolutely awful grindy ones

paper harbor
#

1000 scab/Dreg ranged/melee kills

#

Suffer

plucky flax
#

I get them faster than finish 8 missions.

paper harbor
#

Even pick 16 grim/scripture

paper harbor
plucky flax
#

Yes

ornate hamlet
#

Pick 8 grims

plucky flax
untold niche
ornate hamlet
#

Best mission

paper loom
plucky flax
ornate hamlet
#

Not only do you never see grims most of the time

#

You also die holding onto it

untold niche
#

Goddam I didn't even know psyjer had an smh

paper harbor
ornate hamlet
#

Amazing Fatshark design

untold niche
#

I'm too metapilled

plucky flax
#

Xd

#

I am sedition gamer nooooo

paper harbor
#

Are you sure?

untold niche
#

Someone answer Shane pls

paper loom
plucky flax
#

Top 1% sedition yes

paper harbor
#

Hmmmmmm

untold niche
#

Check atheneum

#

In pins

#

For the smg

paper harbor
#

Muh meta slave

untold niche
#

Blessing

paper loom
#

I have a nice las pistol but the constant clicking hurts my wrist lol

untold niche
#

There's a auto shoot mod

paper loom
#

Oh

plucky flax
#

30 mins sedition game example

untold niche
#

If you don't have mouse software for macros

paper harbor
#

Full auto mod my beloved

paper loom
#

I will check that out ty

paper harbor
#

I use on Mg IV Lasgun

#

Is fun

#

Giant laspistol

ornate hamlet
#

Full auto mod is a life saver

untold niche
paper harbor
untold niche
#

The ping was insane

ornate hamlet
#

Especially on the lasguns

#

Don't need to break your finger using the Lasgun MG anymore

river dawn
#

can smite crit and affect this? or will only non-warp crits activate it?

plucky flax
untold niche
#

Warp crit affects

untold niche
#

But idk if smite can crot

untold niche
#

Talking about plasteel

ornate hamlet
#

Doing the emperor's work

untold niche
#

I should enable it

plucky flax
#

Yeah I don't get people whom ignore it.

#

I'm like bish pls I need that shizzz

paper harbor
#

Iโ€™m broke on plasteel

untold niche
#

I disabled plasteel for ovenproof because I set up ovenproof when I was like +0 on ogryn

paper harbor
#

Drink protein plasteel

#

Is good

plucky flax
#

Where's the undodgeable crushers guy I'd love to see his scoreboard. whatthefuck_heresy

untold niche
#

Do you guys

#

Also shoot patrol on purpose

paper harbor
#

Crusher enemy or crusher zealot?

untold niche
#

Just to have more things to shoot

paper harbor
plucky flax
#

Enemies. Maulers and ragers too.

untold niche
#

Hmm. Near or far I shoot

plucky flax
#

He had trouble with dodging them or something.

untold niche
#

Else sometimes I gets too boring

#

Sometime I shoot 3x rager even if there is a mixed horde with crusher and bulwark on us already

paper harbor
#

I donโ€™t shoot patrol of ogryn bulwark or crushers

#

They are bears not want to wake

untold niche
#

Yeah oggies are the only patrol I don't shoot because take too long to kill

I would shoot 6 ragers though

#

I'm a bad player...

paper harbor
#

Ragers easy

plucky flax
#

I'm too scared for that. whatthefuck_heresy

paper harbor
#

For zealots

untold niche
#

For psyker too

paper harbor
#

Scab/Dreg non ogryn is easy

#

Fuck ogryn patrols

untold niche
#

Rager after nerf was OK. But now they nerf spawn rate for elites as well

I haven't see. 6 crushers or 6 ragers recently. Only seen them on p14

paper harbor
#

That shit make team wipe

untold niche
#

I'm playing a5histg and a5mael

plucky flax
#

Low intensity sedition gang.

paper harbor
#

๐Ÿ˜”

untold niche
#

I want to see 6 ragers again

#

Goddam

#

I only see those very rarely. Usually on defence areas

urban sandal
paper harbor
#

I think they nerf after community rant and complain

paper harbor
untold niche
urban sandal
#

ragers can come in groups of like 20

untold niche
#

Aren't those on defence area

urban sandal
#

not sure what you mean by that

untold niche
#

Like mercantile end

#

You hold out some position

urban sandal
#

no, just in patrols

untold niche
#

Wow I want your game

paper harbor
#

Heโ€™s playing Baldur gate 3

untold niche
#

I haven't seen a 20 rager patrol

#

I would shoot thatv

paper harbor
#

Good luck staying alive

urban sandal
#

I had a shit load of dreg ragers slowly trickle in while playing one of the throneside maps and a short while later had a full patrol of like 20 scab ragers in a torrent map

#

both today

paper harbor
#

Lmao

urban sandal
#

trauma staff go brrrr

#

no problems

untold niche
#

Nah the slowly tricking in one isn't that bad especially on psyker

#

I get alot of 12+ gunner though

#

I dive bomb them on zealot and the. Die after killing half

#

Everything I tell myself I can do it

#

Solo

#

Now it's better because I have kant

worldly iron
#

Skin rotation now

#

Salvar Chem Dogs

radiant frigate
#

imagine if psyker cosmetics didn't suck

wind spruce
#

My red sparkly robe is the sex

urban sandal
#

I like this set, but the headpiece that normally comes with it sucks

untold niche
#

@plucky flax hory shet actually fun and not hard to do
Defo need to rebind nade key, but not sure what to rebind it to

#

i just need the pants

#

@urban sandal

#

canb i borrow ur pants

urban sandal
#

that'll be 300 plasteel per match you wear them uwugryn

untold niche
#

i will kick your knees so you have better legs to jump with

wind spruce
wind spruce
untold niche
#

but on surge hwo you kill gunner

plucky flax
#

Surge blessing on surge would be very cool for blitz cancel.

untold niche
wind spruce
plucky flax
#

New skin this week right?

untold niche
#

ah dang

quick python
untold niche
#

agent, quite sad tbh
i have to rebind my weapon swap keys as well since fs doesnt allow like more than 1 keybind

#

very sad

wind spruce
plucky flax
#

Oh new skins are out?

untold niche
#

if i were to play surge

plucky flax
#

Shieet gotta check.

untold niche
#

atm my number 1 key is for swap
number 2 key is for melee

#

no key for staff

plucky flax
#

Eh I use 1 for melee 2 for range.

#

Default keybind.

wind spruce
#

Q and E are melee and ranged for me

untold niche
#

there were a few times when i panicked and pressed the wrong number because mentally void staff should be my primary and i was so confused xD

#

so i switched 1 to swap weapons

plucky flax
#

Wait wtf it's 2900 again.

#

This shit is extortion.

wind spruce
#

"Premium" KEKW_ogryn

plucky flax
#

Do these masks have the demonic voice filter though?

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
#

I'm too scared to buy it to test.

#

Cos no refund.

untold niche
#

all of them looks pretty trash

vestal fulcrum
#

2 regular sets, 1 โ€œpremium super duper ultra qualityโ€ set

#

I like the Vetโ€™s coat, because itโ€™s just a nice coat

#

A vast improvement over the XXXXL-sized commissarโ€™s coat

untold niche
#

freaking laspistol skin

plucky flax
#

Ultra gimp. I would buy if it has demonic voice.

#

But I don't want to test 1400 aquila. D:

untold niche
#

yeah i don't believe these deserve the premium thingy

#

agent, surge need to god roll too? :v

vestal fulcrum
#

It wants to have good damage

#

Everything else "high" is also somewhat preferred

untold niche
#

t3 perk, t3 blessing both ok?

#

or blesing both t4

#

noit sure how hard it scales

plucky flax
#

High warp resist and quell is good too since it's very peril intensive.

#

T3 blessings are okay. Scaling of nexus and flurry are not big.

cosmic sigil
#

what do you want on trauma?

plucky flax
#

Everything high nooooo

cosmic sigil
#

help me?

untold niche
#

other guy i don't rememeber the name of said for blaze T
radius 80, charge 80, damage 75/76, enough to 1 tap bruiser

#

agent says all 80 KEKW_ogryn

split oxide
plucky flax
untold niche
untold niche
#

i distinctively know

plucky flax
untold niche
#

he said hje was talking to you about blaze trauma

plucky flax
#

Bro you're confusing me blaze trauma so bad pls buff.

half turtle
# cosmic sigil help me?

i'd consider rerolling both blessings since i think generally you want rending shockwave/warp flurry or blazing spirit/warp nexus, depending on build

#

and +flak is fine, although +unyielding is meh

radiant frigate
#

is rending shockwave even useful

half turtle
#

terrifying barrage and sustained fire both kinda don't do much on trauma, because trauma already has great suppression (both lmb and rmb) and sustained fire iirc only works on lmb spam?

half turtle
#

it makes my dps number look small tho

plucky flax
#

You can pretend you're helping team (they won't take advantage of it)

cosmic sigil
#

hmmm tried it in the psyk

#

i think i prefer that

vestal fulcrum
split oxide
vestal fulcrum
#

But in a coordinated setting? Potentially very good value

#

Orโ€ฆ decent at least

#

Blaze Trauma will probably still come out on top

half turtle
#

the main target you do trauma a lot that's unyielding i'd say are actually bulwarks

#

but bulwarks are usually not as much of a dps race IMO

split oxide
half turtle
#

wait does chorus apply brittleness

radiant frigate
#

i am a dome denier

half turtle
#

i haven't played zealot since week 1 of skill tree

#

i've probably used chorus like twice total

radiant frigate
#

i have played it only on twins

half turtle
radiant frigate
#

to help cover the run across the gas

half turtle
#

hardmode twins also really benefits from having dome bc it spawns fucking guardsmen and shotgunners across a giant room with no cover in it

radiant frigate
#

what, the taunt?

split oxide
# half turtle wait does chorus apply brittleness

Probably not - but I dunno how else to discribe it.

  • your teammates attacks do 3x damage.
  • only effective during and a couple o f seconds afterwards

Apply Chorus to a ChaowSpawn, Plogryn or DH,

  • watch them slow down.
  • time it after your teammates reload and are about to unload.
  • watch that healthbar melt
radiant frigate
#

what

half turtle
#

iirc if you just stand in the middle of the room with Big Taunt it taunts literally everything when you hit the button

#

which hard carries twins since the twins themselves are tauntable?

cosmic sigil
#

chorus has something equivalent

radiant frigate
#

the 15% damage after channeling?

#

or somesuch

#

15% is far from x3

half turtle
#

unless you have 3 teammates with no carapace damage in their kits or something

#

like idk 3 lasgun devilclaw shredder vets

vestal fulcrum
wind spruce
#

Using dome for the toughness regen is just staregryn

#

It's 10% per second

half turtle
wind spruce
#

Might aswell be nothing

half turtle
#

i think most of the toughness it regens for me is the toughness i'm not losing because it's blocking sustianed fire from like 6 gunners

#

it also, for some reason, stops mutants

#

which i'm pretty sure is a bug

#

but it's been doing that for 2 patches at least

split oxide
half turtle
#

i think dome is strong i just don't like it... aesthetically i guess?

urban sandal
ornate hamlet
#

It's super strong

urban sandal
#

wherever you aim to place it is where that effect is

ornate hamlet
#

Especially when the primary scary enemy is gunners

split oxide
half turtle
urban sandal
#

looks almost the exact same

half turtle
ornate hamlet
#

Then
There's the bubble bonus is invalidating nets, flamers, and BoN's

ornate hamlet
split oxide
#

The Wall is terrible against elite-packs(non-gunfire).

  • each push degrades the wall life-span
ornate hamlet
#

The real benefit is that it stops stuff like dogs for real

#

But-

#

Yeah

half turtle
#

oh yeah i think dome > wall for sure

ornate hamlet
#

Tanking the uptime is dumb

half turtle
#

i'm just pretty sure dome stopping mutants isn't intentional

#

given that wall has "this stops mutants" as a perk

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah probably

#

But Mutant jank is just one of those things

#

He hits walls that don't exist all the time

#

Probably just Fatshark intentionally erring for the player's favor because the OG mutant was toxic

half turtle
#

yeah

ornate hamlet
#

Remember when he'd follow you over tables

#

And take sharp corners on a dime

#

Bro be drifting

half turtle
#

oh yeah i had some funny clips back in the day from vaulting back and forth across a windowsill and having the mutant just 180 instantly in place

ornate hamlet
#

Perfect tracking chads

ornate hamlet
#

I'd use scream again once gunners and shooters stop stun locking with their shots

#

The fact that a small pack of them can basically give you arthritis is pretty toxic

urban sandal
#

shooters have gradually become my most hated enemy

ornate hamlet
#

They were pretty bad before

half turtle
urban sandal
#

I think it's because of the revolver/plasma meta so no one is killing them anymore

half turtle
#

i already lose my entire toughness bar from like 1 guardsman volley

ornate hamlet
#

But current patch they basically stunlock you the moment they hit

#

Instead of before where you only get that if you're out of toughness

half turtle
#

now i'm guaranteed to take 2-3 every time because of the stun

ornate hamlet
#

Yeah

stone canyon
#

RNG giving these +3stam ones out like candy on my Psyker, could do +9 curio setup already

ornate hamlet
#

Not sure if deliberate or not
But they're awful

stone canyon
#

For science?

plucky flax
#

Crack head knife zealot gaming whatthefuck_heresy

ornate hamlet
#

I'm rocking 9 stamina, stamina regen and gunner toughness with the knife

#

I can sprint everywhere

#

And never get tired

half turtle
wind spruce
ornate hamlet
#

It's pretty solid ngl

ornate hamlet
#

But I'm biased because I like my shoves

stone canyon
#

So for practical purposes, just one of those is good?

ornate hamlet
#

1 is good for most stuff yes

#

Unless you're crazy like me

#

Usually safer to go stamina+ toughness though if you want

half turtle
stone canyon
#

Im liking it on my Veteran to have +3 as got that talent which uses stamina to do ranged crits when ADS'ing, also dodgeslides for days going backwards while shooting at enemy

ornate hamlet
#

It's pretty funny

#

Also why I prefer the knife atm

#

The new knife push shove attack is incredibly safe and gets rids of elites

half turtle
#

knife is the best repositioning tool but i really like 1.1-shotting mutants with my ds4

wind spruce
stone canyon
#

My veteran has knife just because its so far been the only good rolled weapon dropped from shop (in 2 days) and i had lvl 4 precog+uncanny blessings for it

ornate hamlet
#

That's what I miss moving from knife

half turtle
ornate hamlet
#

Can't 1shot mutanta with a heavy

half turtle
#

i actually have no idea if you can do this with something slower

#

you probably can but i haven't used anything other than knife or ds4 for months

ornate hamlet
#

But I do like the control that knife gives tbh

half turtle
#

i actually have not tried new knife

ornate hamlet
#

Ye

#

New knife has pretty easy horde clears

half turtle
#

for a while i was running lacerate on the old knife because i wanted a boss-soloing tool

#

and it was ok

ornate hamlet
#

Just push attack + heavy

#

And you kill hordes

#

Completely brainless

#

Downside is you only clear elites reliable with push attacks

wind spruce
ornate hamlet
#

Or you use alt fire into overheads lol

stone canyon
#

Running new knife on my Vet, mk3 on Zealot

half turtle
ornate hamlet
#

But when you're rocking yeh trauma staff

#

Elites don't matter anyway

#

New knife is just for defensive use + safety

half turtle
#

hmm also does sprint efficiency not matter

stone canyon
#

Started week ago quest for blazing spirit for trauma staff, still ongoing, about 20-30 staffs later

ornate hamlet
#

And you can still duel bosses with new knife

stone canyon
#

Odds are already against me at this point i guess

tall meteor
stuck sinew
stone canyon
#

Its ok, i got good Voidstrike to fill the void and disappointment

wind spruce
half turtle
ornate hamlet
#

I like it myself

ornate hamlet
#

Better than old knife

radiant frigate
ornate hamlet
#

But that's preference

loud garnet
stone canyon
half turtle
ornate hamlet
#

They stun lock you anyway

radiant frigate
urban sandal
#

I run 2 toughness and still nearly get toughness broken from 1 salvo

#

stark contrast to ogryn that can take like 7

ornate hamlet
#

Current gunners do make you take the burst lol

stone canyon
# loud garnet

Kitchen Psyker, making the most psykadelicious meals for you

ornate hamlet
#

So it makes sense

half turtle
plucky flax
#

Mine is as close as perfect I guess.

spice veldt
#

shooters only stun you when you have toughness if you're sprinting

radiant frigate
indigo portal
#

Arco people are turning gray you need to escape while you still can

radiant frigate
#

also that seems freakishly low

spice veldt
#

wtf

half turtle
spice veldt
#

rip exhiolek

indigo portal
half turtle
#

gunners also do it but i'm better at noticing them

indigo portal
#

I can't post images

spice veldt
#

hmm is someone doing shenanigans with bots?

urban sandal
#

they just added a new bot

radiant frigate
#

what made you grey

#

oh no

#

now i am also grey

spice veldt
#

imagine being gray

#

cringe

half turtle
#

cringe

indigo portal
#

Run

#

No more memes

radiant frigate
#

๐Ÿ’€

indigo portal
#

no more stan images

#

think of what you'll lose

ornate hamlet
stuck sinew
#

Ew, more gray people

stone canyon
plucky flax
#

Oh then that's unfortunate.

indigo portal
spice veldt
#

nuh uh

#

NOOOOOOOO

#

THIS CAN'T BE

radiant frigate
#

Death

half turtle
urban sandal
#

surrounded by greys ogryn_pathetic

stuck sinew
half turtle
#

mostly i rely on 30% toughness DR

indigo portal
stuck sinew
#

AAH

#

I'm out of the gray closet

half turtle
#

uh oh

radiant frigate
#

what's the lore behind becoming grey

indigo portal
#

You've come out as gray

spice veldt
#

oh it is a thing they intentionally aded

#

check zealot chat for a response from hank

dim parrot
#

interesting

indigo portal
#

Wait my frequent emotes have been wiped the fuck

#

That's not nice

radiant frigate
#

verification, huh

spice veldt
#

skill issue

spice veldt
loud garnet
spice veldt
near wyvern
radiant frigate
#

run while you can

stuck sinew
#

Janfon's shitpost senses tingled

radiant frigate
#

stick close to the light

indigo portal
spice veldt
#

"context"

#

you're just like me

#

(fr fr)

dim parrot
#

cheese

spice veldt
#

so sad

untold niche
#

a5histg, +3 vet who uses pfoom pfoom gun + psword

  • shoots poxyb point blank
  • powers up psword, waits too long, then slashes mutie 6 times unpowered
indigo portal
#

NO EMBEDS

half turtle
#

oh ok

half turtle
#

idk any vet

untold niche
radiant frigate
#

is this another "vets who forgot what melee is" meme

untold niche
indigo portal
radiant frigate
#

plasma my beloathed

half turtle
half turtle
#

well except i use the devil claw

#

and sometimes i try to parry mutants

#

because my brain short circuited

untold niche
urban sandal
#

plasma gun brain rot

untold niche
#

can't dodge dog, can't shove poxyb

half turtle
#

i unironically have tried to parry dogs before too

#

i think devilclaw just gets you in a parry mindset

untold niche
#

canm you parry doggie?

spice veldt
#

it's a disease, a mind virus

half turtle
#

well if you can i've never done it successfully

indigo portal
near wyvern
#

Herecy

radiant frigate
#

parry this laspistol

urban sandal
#

I think you can parry the knock when dogs run into you but not the pounce

#

not sure about that tho

untold niche
radiant frigate
dim parrot
untold niche
#

i didn't cherck his blessings though

half turtle
#

i also noticed that if you parry a mauler or crusher overhead it blocks it but doesn't riposte

untold niche
#

i was allt tabbed

half turtle
#

but i guess it's still better than instantly dying

untold niche
#

i now understand the vet main is dumb meme

stuck sinew
#

I still get auric games with people using wound curios unironically

indigo portal
untold niche
#

sedition is level 1?

#

or level 2

indigo portal
#

1

#

I have no clue dude

radiant frigate
#

uh

#

xd?

untold niche
#

huh?
idk maybe they could just be very chill dudes

indigo portal
#

OOOO

#

I am back

spice veldt
#

:(

untold niche
#

exhil did you get possessed

radiant frigate
#

grey no more

spice veldt
#

kill him

dim parrot
radiant frigate
#

i guess i am about to be vaporized then

untold niche
#

why did yo utype i am back

spice veldt
#

OOOOOOOOH

#

I'M BACK BABYYYYYYY

untold niche
#

what is a convict role

radiant frigate
#

jail

stuck sinew
untold niche
#

am just average player

indigo portal
untold niche
#

i really like the shirrt and pants but the mroe i look at it the more ugly it gets
Still my main and only zealot cosmetic set though

hollow token
#

new mask change voice

spice veldt
untold niche
hollow token
stuck sinew
# near wyvern

Ubi one kebab is lucky they don't shoot both hands at once

untold niche
#

hopw much is that

radiant frigate
#

bout tree fiddy

dim parrot
radiant frigate
#

rough guesstimation

#

ah, not vaporized after all

#

a pleasant surprise

stuck sinew
radiant frigate
plucky flax
#

I wish I could play as demonhost. More psychic power.

golden tartan
#

Playable daemons when

#

Skip the host stage

dim parrot
plucky flax
untold niche
#

inverse peril

#

only way to quell

#

idk

#

double staff is still cool

#

havijng two peril meters (without the invert) would add some complexity as well

#

non gunker psyker too easy to play atm imo

plucky flax
#

Not everyone is good like you SadgeCry

dim parrot
#

play as pacifist

untold niche
#

me me just average skill

dim parrot
#

and only force sword push

untold niche
#

all i do on psyker is just right click left lick and then press spacebar to quell

#

agent

#

ahvey ou ever

#

do really dumb shit to see how ur team react

untold niche
#

pacificist runs seem pretty hard

#

genuinely

#

you need toi know clearly where all the doors are

plucky flax
ornate hamlet
#

Not just all the doors

plucky flax
#

They just don't understand my higher purpose.

dim parrot
untold niche
ornate hamlet
#

You also need to be able to loop stuff

ornate hamlet
#

Because some elevators will refuse to move.if enemies are on it

untold niche
#

i have never done that but i can't say it didnt cross my mind

untold niche
untold niche
#

like imagine midway the game

#

you are top chart

#

then you go melee a bulwark for 15 seconds

dim parrot
#

watch a movie with the bulwark for 15 seconds

untold niche
#

psyker force sword block shoud l block barrel

#

that way we have 1 more movement tech

untold niche
dim parrot
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no no also watch a movie with them and make it a movie marathon

drifting charm
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anyone knows what perks/blessings good for Voidstrike staff?