psyker-class

[spice veldt]

he pops in here and there

[untold niche]

Only when you mentioned then I remember him

Iirc he helped me out a couple of times

[spice veldt]

yeah and he's one of the few people who read the code and knows some of what's going on

[untold niche]

Oh yeah. Just one more clarification. So you did resting yourself and solidity did not affect tye quell delay right. I think I'm too blue pilled. It defo feels faster

Actually

Don't reply that

Let it hang in shame.

[spice veldt]

😔

[untold niche]

I might try not running that tbh. But I have no idea where to put two extra node points

One would prov go into EE

[lethal lagoon]

Wildfire

I have a new apperciation for wildfire after running all healthbars

[untold niche]

No you are not agent chaos. Stop promoting wildfire

[elfin roost]

This a good dump stat to have, or the worst?

[lethal lagoon]

Wildfire is for my smite build, it's different.

[untold niche]

Ah

I'm running void

[shadow wigeon]

Surge has no dump stats, so.... not great. What's the actual crit bonus %?

[lethal lagoon]

What's the crit chance on that low of crit bonus haha

Crit bonus has terrible scaling, so 60% might as well be 80%

But 37%, hmmm

[elfin roost]

Oh you know, 12.40%

[lethal lagoon]

12.4 in that inspect screen?

[elfin roost]

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Are you sure that's the "melee" crit chance thing?

Jeez that's bricked lmao

[rose kite]

keep rolling for higher stat total

[lethal lagoon]

Wait, 15 is the lower end

How did you get 12?

Wtf

Am I missing something?

[spice veldt]

5% is the lower end i think

[elfin roost]

Universe might hate me, just a lil

[lethal lagoon]

So yeah, generally, crit bonus matter least. But you want at least 50%.

[elfin roost]

I have this at least

[rose kite]

thats usable

[elfin roost]

Thats the best staff I've ever gotten and its only "useable"

I'm that unlucky lmfao

[rose kite]

well u gotta upgrade it to see if it'll be good or not

[lethal lagoon]

That's two mid rolls, yeah

Rending trauma is lame.

[elfin roost]

Psyker ain't for me

[lethal lagoon]

I believe in your ability to roll atleast a usable surge staff

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[elfin roost]

I doubt I can roll a good trinket even lmao

This is useable

This is ok

[rose kite]

wasnt it the mk ii sabre that was the good one

that sword still looks thicc tho

[elfin roost]

I don't think

[spice veldt]

the mk4 is the goated one

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 made 4 my lucky number

(Until they nerf it cause there's literally no reason for it to be this much stronger than the other options)

[elfin roost]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

[elfin roost]

This is also the best force sword I've ever gotten

[shadow wigeon]

That Illisi is prety good. Lots of directions you can take that.
Warp res lower the better

[elfin roost]

Why is that?

[shadow wigeon]

Low warp res = faster pumping to raise peril for Creeping Flames

[spice veldt]

though for the purposes of using the illisi better, higher warp res is better

[elfin roost]

So lower warp res is to use it as a secondary, but a higher warp res is mostly if you wanna go

https://tenor.com/view/he-man-i-have-the-power-sword-gif-5305079

[shadow wigeon]

It depends on play style. Pumping into Warp Rider is also a plus for melee.

[spice veldt]

though spamming the special is the best in most situations

and once your peril is high, lower warp res is of no benefit

[shadow wigeon]

It fades so quickly though. but yes if you like to use special alot, I prefer to just slice w/ Mettle procs.

[karmic ivy]

Run high res tbh

With staff and your g key

It’s easy to get higher peril tbh

[spice veldt]

it's the best way to use the illisi and it's also one of the braindead ways to use the illisi

[karmic ivy]

Then just maintain it

And well, remove crowd via mele and spam charged heavy’s

(Powered heavy’s)

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah. Low warp res is great for creeping flames support, and some cases depending on your melee preference.

[untold niche]

Spam special and left click?
I usually only whip out my illisi when I'm already surrounded so don't have time to do special, very sad

[severe folio]

i think not max burn stack is not good

[bright yoke]

what yall think of this?

[mighty fractal]

You want 76% minimum

for maximum burn stacks

76% is the cutoff

[outer vessel]

If you want to use it, swap unarmored for carapace and shred for uncanny

Unyielding is at least usable for certain elites, and monsters/bosses

[bright yoke]

found it in the shop, deciding if its worth picking up

I'm currently using this:

[outer vessel]

It is

[outer vessel]

Your dump stat is cleave

All the other stats on the shop one are very good

You really only need carapace as a perk, the other one is flexible because mk iv ds has very strong headshot damage on all units save for carapace

Which even without it, is quite high

Uncanny is a must as well to shred armor on flak melees, gunners, and your usual armored units

[torpid girder]

I love this mod.

[outer vessel]

Lol

[torpid girder]

For a trauma staff, how important is it to have 78+ blast radius? For a fire trauma

[outer vessel]

Makes rmb big boom better

You want that, of course

You can lose some warp and quell as long as charge, damage and radius are as high as possible

[shadow wigeon]

The more the better. It's not the end of the world, of course, but it will only make it feel great the higher that number is.

[torpid girder]

I got a few decent staves but blast radius is literally the dump stat for all of them so 😭

[outer vessel]

Such is the way of the brick

[torpid girder]

i'm especially mad about this one

[outer vessel]

[proud frost]

lol

[outer vessel]

Honestly, you could probably make it work for now

[shadow wigeon]

I would still roll that

[outer vessel]

Unless it rolls like shit

[torpid girder]

I also have this one, would this one be better?

[bright yoke]

so jealous!

[proud frost]

if you have enough dockets you could just sit there and spam buy profane staves

the latter

[outer vessel]

That's very good

[shadow wigeon]

That's an A rank staff, I would go to orange for sure. You do not neet better stats than that.

[torpid girder]

Oh that's good! i was worried since the psykernomicon like specified 78-80 so i thought it needed it for some important breakpoint, or something

Time for hadron to ruin it

💔

[outer vessel]

Dogshit

Into the dumpster it goes

[torpid girder]

oh wutevs i guess i'll gold the first one

Salvageable at allll?

[outer vessel]

Usable

Swap unarmored for flak, run n gun for flurry

And go blow stuff up

[torpid girder]

Oh i'm going to be using this for a wildfire build, should I get blazing spirit over flurry?

[outer vessel]

Yes

I just like flurry a lot, I hate how slow the charge can be without it

[torpid girder]

Now I just need to farm for blazing spirittt

[outer vessel]

Shouldn't be impossible

[shadow wigeon]

If you aren't fishing for blessings, then this is a case where you could have stopped at purple and just.... given up.

[outer vessel]

It hands out t3 like candy

[torpid girder]

I was looking for something usable not something perfect

[ornate hamlet]

It affects unarmored and infested first target, which is pretty handy

[proud frost]

wyt?

[outer vessel]

Not really

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah im afraid even for useable, that wasn't really worth going to orange for. Fishing for blessings is valid though.

Just FYI, really, tryin to save mats

[torpid girder]

I would have been happy if it had a single good perk or blessing
I was hoping it would have nexus so i could just put blazing spirit on it and replace crit damage or something w/ flak and it would be at least useable

[haughty star]

Great sword fucking griefed by hadron

[lethal lagoon]

Blast raidus is pretty huge for blazing trauma though

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/bedge-pepe-sleep-gif-24023312

Hadron after dropping that bomb

[torpid girder]

that had the highest blast radius out of every staff I have 😭

[haughty star]

what a bitch or son of a bitch or whatever it is

[haughty star]

plus side is i didn't have deflector 4

so eh

certain builds i like to have the deflector funni on there

[haughty star]

i suppose deflector and weakspot wouldn't be bad to run for bossing....

put unyielding and...?

[lethal lagoon]

I would put stamina 2 above weakspot lmao

[haughty star]

dude

you might be on to something

it's not a sword

it's a GODDAMN SHIELD

[lethal lagoon]

Support stick

[haughty star]

the bad day stick

[lethal lagoon]

I still have an Obscrusos from beta that has block effeicency and Stamina rolled on it.

[haughty star]

omg i could even put block effeciency on it

[radiant frigate]

block efficiency 2 stam and deflector

block the world

[haughty star]

with venting shriek i wonder if you could face tank a demon host like ogryn

[untold niche]

Yeah you could

I tanked a DH just by badly dodging and holding block

And quelling on dodge

[haughty star]

i mean i can't melt this thing it's like a fucking unicorn

80 on everything 56 on mobility

[untold niche]

I didn't even need block efficiency

[haughty star]

it's 4 points away from literally perfect lol

[haughty star]

im just gonna put it on there as a meme lol

[dusk sierra]

replace carapace or crit % y'all think?

[untold niche]

Cara

Keep cara

[dusk sierra]

and go what, flak?

or maniac

[untold niche]

Test breakpoints imo

Are you on pc

[dusk sierra]

yee

[haughty star]

if that was a surge i'd say go crit

[untold niche]

Get loadout config mod

[dusk sierra]

mod abuse time

[untold niche]

Then test yourself

[haughty star]

but i don't know trauma

[untold niche]

Also are you doing blaze trauma?

[dusk sierra]

thatt's the plan

been rolling for blazing for a while

[untold niche]

You could ping agentchaos aka "being selfish"

He would be very glad

To help you

His actual in server name

[dusk sierra]

ye I found

[untold niche]

Is "being selfish"

[dusk sierra]

II'm ssearcching on disco before asking to see if they answered my Qs

goddamnit this keeb

[untold niche]

He will pop up in a few hours

[bright yoke]

I just pulled this

[untold niche]

Just tye word trauma summons him

[elfin roost]

I got one with over 50% crit bonus

[dusk sierra]

but ty

[lethal lagoon]

For a near perfect blaze? absolutely change cara to flak

[dusk sierra]

good to know

[bright yoke]

dude nice!

[haughty star]

okay to carry the meme on

i think im gonna go with precognition

[dusk sierra]

yeah shame about quell speed alas lol

[haughty star]

[lethal lagoon]

ehhh, meme's have to be somewhat viable, I would do unstable

Cause you block and build perl

Or something

[haughty star]

60 percent finesse on dodge isn't good?

i have unstable power too

[elfin roost]

Holy sheisse is warp flurry good?

[haughty star]

i just figured since you're blocking you dodge out when they're ending sequence and schmack em in the head

[lethal lagoon]

You want Flurry and Nexus only.

So yeah

Carpace isn't great but it's not bad either

So 1.5/2

[dusk sierra]

@plucky flax if you got a second to check this out, swap crit or cara? I hear you're the resident trauma expert

[lethal lagoon]

Good call

[elfin roost]

So it's only about 25% bricked at the most, since I can always switch out the next blessing and change the perk if needed?

[wind spruce]

Please for the love of god dont ever keep carapace on a trauma staff

[lethal lagoon]

I would absolutely upgrade it, yeah.

[lethal lagoon]

I said swap cara to flak, but I'm not trustworthy 🥹

Good call honestly

I'm really not.

[covert umbra]

Warp Rupture or Creeping flames?

[wind spruce]

Warp rupture is a never take on any build talent

always creeping flames

[lethal lagoon]

Warp Rupture helps with the knock off penance from what I heard

[plucky flax]

Swap cara to flak!!!

[lethal lagoon]

Otherwise literally never.

[plucky flax]

That's pretty good staff. if only quell and blast radius can swap. Then you can join me at my table with near perfect trauma.

[dusk sierra]

I'll do my best 🙏 tty for the input

[elfin roost]

How do you feel about this? Would it at least not be holding me back?

[lethal lagoon]

Can I have a seat 🥹

[lethal lagoon]

Mk4 is overwhelming enough that it's honestly not a big problem.

But that's like 3 bad rolls lmao

[ornate hamlet]

For DS4 you want mobility at or above 51% and the highest of the rest, maniac to do the funnies on specialists and uhhh I forgot the other perk

[lethal lagoon]

A white MK4 is still OP frankly

[elfin roost]

fair point lol

[ornate hamlet]

Rampage is very fun to use and turns out uncanny strike isn't much of a loss if you're using shred or riposte

You still do decent against crushers, get crits for mettle and keep a solid horde clear

[elfin roost]

Also asked about this but wanted a different opinion, just to get a better consensus

[ornate hamlet]

BUT the rampage needs to be tier 4 if you want to cleave an extra enemy

[elfin roost]

Sometimes things are only bad when some people think about what they do with it

[ornate hamlet]

Because tier 3 is 32%, which is 1% short of giving you an extra poxwalker

[lethal lagoon]

Maniac 5% crit chance is what I'd do with that, but I also just straight up wouldn't use that.

[elfin roost]

Fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

Oh yeah, 5% crit to abuse the crit heavies

Maniac + crit chance, rampage + riposte/shred

[lethal lagoon]

For mk4 I like maniac carpace, uncanny shred

I'm a basic bitch

[plucky flax]

That's so OP you can sit outside.

[lethal lagoon]

Rampage shred is surprisingly respectable horde clear with still okay carpace damage.

[lethal lagoon]

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/that-was-uncanny-gif-26726028

[lethal lagoon]

Everyone knows the cool kids hang out outside the party, because they are too cool for everyone being cringe inside

🥹

[plucky flax]

Give surge surge blessing.

Would be so OP against monsters and crushers.

[elfin roost]

Double the chain

[lethal lagoon]

Next patch gives surge surge blessing.
Only works on LMB

[plucky flax]

Meme time.

The crits though.

Surge lmb for single target. Smite for horde.

There you go OP af build.

But onlysmite is even more OP.

[lethal lagoon]

OnlySmites

You queue an auric with a fresh lvl 30 psyker named OnlySmites with grey gear, What do?

[plucky flax]

Let him cook (smite)

[lethal lagoon]

No, grey gear is too obvious, 380s but worst possible blessings.

[haughty star]

I didn't make a sword.... I MADE A SHIELD!!!!

[plucky flax]

I would still put uncanny on it.

Veri cool tanking sword.

[haughty star]

NOW TO RUIN SOMEONES DAY BY PISSING OFF A DEMON HOST

i wanna see if this thing will straight shed off a demon host like a ogryn lmao

[radiant sleet]

been trying assail/shriek/warp charges/purgatus/deimos build and it seems pretty fun so far but not having uncanny strike on the deimos feelsbad. Has anyone else tried running a build like this?

[wind spruce]

Fyi the block efficiency from deflector only applies to ranged attacks

[radiant frigate]

i love when fatshark tells us how things work

[radiant frigate]

not running uncanny strike does indeed feel bad

[haughty star]

holy shit this thing one taps ragers and flak ragers on damnation \

[lethal lagoon]

This weapon Blocks BOTH Melee and Ranged Attacks.

[radiant frigate]

turns out 100% armor piercing is pretty good

[lethal lagoon]

Why word it like that

If block cost only effects ranged.

That's not omission, that's intentially misleading.

[haughty star]

no wonder yall say go for the deimos unless hordes

[radiant frigate]

as in, with a heavy to the head?

[haughty star]

just the special it's like a chain sword

it has a literal eviscerate

[radiant frigate]

then i remain unimpressed

i'm certain obscurus would do the same

[haughty star]

who was even talking about obscurus lol?

it takes just over one REGULAR heavy hit with four warp charges to drop a flak rager

[lethal lagoon]

[haughty star]

one taps all the specials and elites wtf

[lethal lagoon]

Also curious, we generally accept Obscurous is shit, has it been really tested?

[haughty star]

this thing is fucking based lol i wanna make a damage hungry one now

[shadow wigeon]

Obscurus was made obsolete by Deimos and Illisi. It's not that it is bad it's that it is worse than either of them.

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, that's the general crowd opinion

And mine as well

But who's tested Ob in the last few weeks

[twin zephyr]

I've had some reasonable strength coming from the Obscurus. It's not unusable, it just feels like the others do the exact same thing, but better.

[lethal lagoon]

They have it seems

[shadow wigeon]

It's not crowd opinion, we used it when the new swords came out quite a lot.

[lethal lagoon]

You used OB when Illy and Deimos dropped? Why? That's weird.

[haughty star]

it will one tap flak rager with a l1h1 combo with no charging or special

[lethal lagoon]

I certainly didn't.

[haughty star]

also literally no damage blessings or perks

[shadow wigeon]

To see if it was good

[lethal lagoon]

Illy dropped with innate deflector

There's no shot it was good by comparsion.

[shadow wigeon]

That was fixed very quickly, im obviously not referring to that.

[twin zephyr]

Like, the obscurus has reasonable cleave. With the right blessings, you can turn it into a mild blender, with the option for an empowered stab.
But that just makes it a worse Illisi for everything but boss damage.

Alternatively, you can build it like a deimos, but it still ends up just being a worse deimos.

[haughty star]

color me impressed

i am really impressed by the deimos

just smite everything the deimos won't do

[lethal lagoon]

The double stab combo, right?

[haughty star]

yeah the l1h1

you don't even have to charge the h part lol wtf

[lethal lagoon]

I've never really given it a fair shot cause of the mk4, figured I'd roll a deimos when it get's nerfed.

[shadow wigeon]

The big thing that was fixed when Illisi/Deimos came out was the Obs's lock in attack did not feel terrible anymore.

(because it was on Deimos now and actually good)

It was the most frustrating part of Obs

[haughty star]

im easily impressed lol

[lethal lagoon]

I quit when they fixed that bug and didn't come back till patch 13

I'm guessing they fatfingered copy pasted Ob code into Illy and deimos, and Ob was meant to have innate deflector.

It makes no sense why it has a shield animation otherwise

[haughty star]

lol this thing is cool

on damnation obvs

[lethal lagoon]

TickleFingers

Where were you when I was coming up for Meme names for an alt psyker

I got OnlySmites, AssailNBattery, Smitelsy, EnfeedMe

[haughty star]

my Psyker is TickleFingers, UncleBadTouch is my Zealot, SirSnugglyPants is my Ogryn, and StinkyPinky is my vet

i thought uncle bad touch was really fitting for a zealot at the time lmao

[lethal lagoon]

EmperorTouchMe

Those are some solid names sir

[mighty fractal]

remember when force sword push attacks built peril

boy now those were some times

[vestal fulcrum]

Try hitting it to the face with Heavy 2 attack, the stab

[frigid relic]

SIBLINGS

I have discovered the forbidden revolver machine gun

[haughty star]

the fuck was that

[twin zephyr]

The warp flows through you

[haughty star]

Do the swords 20 percent apply to rangedd

[elfin roost]

Gun psyker is the ideal playstyle right?

[frigid relic]

For me it is

Pardner

[elfin roost]

I personally can't stand the staves now that I'm actually testing them side by side

[frigid relic]

Yeah lmao

I don’t like them

I prefer brain burst

Very satisfying to use even though it’s less convenient for elite hordes

[rapid widget]

Why use anything for hordes that isn't the Illisis Force Sword, sponsored by the Imperium?

[frigid relic]

Brother but I do

I love the Illisis

I thought I hated the Psyker class and then I got to around level 14 and couldn’t put it down

[spice veldt]

unstable power? you only get the power bonus while the sword is out

[wind spruce]

Block efficiency perks on weapons or curios apply to ranged and melee, yes

[haughty star]

in reply to his comment about block effeciency on deflector

[haughty star]

stop it you are giving me terrible, terrible ideas

Proceeds to throw 3 block effeciency perks on curios

[wind spruce]

For fucks sake. Another youtube psyker guide telling people empathetic evasion helps proc dodge blessings

[stiff falcon]

Who’s

[wind spruce]

ive done it. its pretty hilarious. add 3 x + 3 stam curios (which, btw, increase the efficiency of kinetic deflection)

and you can basically block forever

[wind spruce]

briggso

[steel egret]

Darktide weapon tier lists are youtube cringe gold.

[haughty star]

im gonna run one 3 stam and then put block eff on all of them lol

[stiff falcon]

Most build guides are cringe gold tbh

[mighty fractal]

Does Dome have some kind of weird property that causes mutants to stop inside it

[haughty star]

Legend has it he never did use a med station

[mighty fractal]

I've had three games tonight where mutants charge into the dome, then bonk their head on an invisible wall roughly in the middle of the dome and get stopped

[steel egret]

IMMORTAL PSYKER BUILD

[mighty fractal]

It's similar to when mutants run into the flat shield, and I think it even makes the same sound

but I haven't seen any other specials get stunned like they do with the flat shield talent

[shadow wigeon]

I have noticed this a few times

[mighty fractal]

It saved my life in my last game lol

[tacit stump]

i have only 1 +3 stamina curio else i use more thoughness

[wind spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17jjari/why_i_think_11_stam_is_mandatory_on_psyker/

[plucky flax]

Cool story but I don't need it.

[radiant frigate]

unfortunately there is very little value in that

[urban sandal]

even just +2 stam perk and KD with a dclaw goes hard

[wind spruce]

true

just a meme

[radiant frigate]

even though i now have a +3 stam curio i do not know how much it will matter

i kind of hope it does something, i did spend 20k melkbucks on it

[plucky flax]

I find people on youtube naming 'their' build some obscene names really cringe too.

[wind spruce]

literally flagged meme

[plucky flax]

"The Emperor's Chosen" zealot build!!

[urban sandal]

until someone pisses off a DH

[plucky flax]

I never meme.

[radiant frigate]

yes well i generally do not plan for idiocy

though i should

[plucky flax]

Tryhard mode always activated.

[urban sandal]

[plucky flax]

(Don't search my meme stuff)

[radiant frigate]

how about this one, the slappy magic mind blasty burny-blendy psyker build

[stiff falcon]

I should upload my low effort damnation kickback build (not auric capable)

[plucky flax]

Why not? Kickbacc is absurb.

[stiff falcon]

If you try and solo a boss, it’s going to take ages

[plucky flax]

You don't have bleed heavy spam melee weapon?

I do when I use kiccbacc.

[stiff falcon]

Low effort

[plucky flax]

Spamming heavies is not that much effort.

Only for big dudes.

[cosmic sigil]

Someone wants to take Pygex out.

[plucky flax]

I heard that Tanner guys is really pro.

[stiff falcon]

Tbh I learned slide dodging from him

[hollow halo]

the 3 videos i watched were good info, but man the way that guy comes across is so obnoxious. I don't mean the voice but just the very condescending demeanor towards other opinions about the game

But he plays the game at high level so he knows the mechanics, nothing wrong with his takes from what i seen

[plucky flax]

He's the best player ever so his words are the TRUTH.

[lunar hollow]

that guy said headshots dont matter unless u play a mid weapon like revolver

really revolutionary stuff

[plucky flax]

Trust him he's top 0.1%.

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

[hollow halo]

caring about some made up ranking or competitive skill level in a PvE game is already asking to be clowned on

[plucky flax]

[stiff falcon]

If he was less of a prick, he’d be beloved

[plucky flax]

Pardon me let me go back to my 1% corner and be quiet.

[wind spruce]

Git gud scrub

[plucky flax]

Can't I'm stuck in sedition.

[hollow halo]

Yeah i think he could definitely have a lot more success without the toxicity, but it is what it is

state of darktide youtubers

[lunar hollow]

im a malice larper 😔

[wind spruce]

The thing I like most about him is his attitude

Atleast it's entertaining

[urban sandal]

reminds me of the guy who throws games because they don’t play his yt builds

[hollow halo]

To each their own i suppose

[lunar hollow]

it's pretty annoying considering he says a lot of dumb shit

[plucky flax]

Don't watch this AgentChaos dude he's promoting shitty bleed knife.

[wind spruce]

Genuine oriental machine

[hollow halo]

people throw over OTHER people's builds?? the hell

[lunar hollow]

completely unearned confidence in his takes

the real kicker about "headshots don't matter" is he says the columnus iag is the best gun in the game and that has a 2.something finesse modifier so its like

[hollow halo]

whenever i see 3 stealth zealots in the game i'm always like: "Yes, finally, a challenge 💪 "
Complaining over other peoples builds is so much soyjak energy

[lunar hollow]

ur playing this gun pretty terribly if ur not going for headshots on it

u can abuse crits and whatnot but u should still be hitting heads

[urban sandal]

[stiff falcon]

One side you have assholes and then you have people who just put out malice roleplay builds that die immediately on damnation or auric

[hollow halo]

no inbetween?

[plucky flax]

Stealth zealot is so good for solo carrying though.

Can do all objectives yourself.

[hollow halo]

it's nice having 1 in the team for sure, but if its more than 1 you can feel the aggro getting pulled towards you

[stiff falcon]

I am yet to see an in between

[cosmic sigil]

Robot?

[urban sandal]

yup

[stiff falcon]

Lmfao

Like I said, malice roleplay builds

[cosmic sigil]

i played with 2 in a trio once... well i did take a loooot of heat

[stiff falcon]

Should get BHVed for that

[cosmic sigil]

there's good and bad with Tanner

[hollow halo]

I'm sure theres good info in there, but i can't spend my time watching someone that angry (in a PvE game) all the time personally.

[upper sun]

imagine how toxic someone would be in pvp if theyre toxic in pve

[cosmic sigil]

the problem is that jsat does not make videos about mechanic and stuff anymore

[mighty fractal]

chocob is very nice in-game

[upper sun]

like bro you're fighting a toaster with some graphics cards shoved in chill

[cosmic sigil]

and crab does not have a fucking channel

[wind spruce]

Crabs chat with telepots was nice

Other than tele not shutting the fuck up

[cosmic sigil]

yeah, but telopots rubs some people the wrong way

[wind spruce]

Why

He rubbed me the wrong way constantly interrupting crab lol

[solar orbit]

is it a bug i earn blessing 2 time , and it dos't apear in my reroll section ?

[cosmic sigil]

well, apparently he talks too much and some finds him obnoxious

he is a bit angry sometime

like, as clad said, chill the fuck up mate

[wind spruce]

I can't watch his play throughs, the constant incoherent chatter does my head in

[cosmic sigil]

everytime i see a title i am like, yeah he is gonna talk about that weapon he used

except he is not

[hollow halo]

Ingame in auric: "Sorry for triggering Demonhost"
"No problem, it happens"

Meanwhile on forums and on youtube: "he's literally throwing the game by not using MY build"

it is funny the discrepancy but yeah there are some angery people who play this game

[wind spruce]

Imagine not talking about your builds @plucky flax

[solar orbit]

who is that ?

[hollow halo]

Don't know if you can name names because of witch-hunting rules in the discord, but its been said in the chat

thats for the wardens to decide

[upper sun]

Can we talk about the biggest issue in the game tho?

||why does the poney tail hair style mesh with every single armor in the game?||

[plucky flax]

They are trash.

[quasi junco]

did they nerf demonhost aggro response time? I've almost stepped on a few recently and was able to get away in time

[urban sandal]

no, first they’re on the ground, then when someone gets close they hover, then they start shaking and trying to break free then they agro

always been like that

[quartz barn]

Gonna be honest if you complain about other peoples builds because it makes the game harder for you you just suck, you can literally clear missions with good movement alone

Only valid critisism vs others is when they somehow go down vs a regular horde

[grim inlet]

question: i thought for the different staffs, do the blessings transfer over?

[tulip kettle]

no

[grim inlet]

aw dang it

thanks for the quick answer

[steel egret]

What if they cant move either?

[quasi junco]

What if they can't move and can't kill?

And their build sucks?

[quartz barn]

Was in regards to people who claim theyre good and blame their failure on others

[midnight jolt]

One day I got a dude on randoms which was basically a chattter box, he would constantly be saying stuff like:

• oh shit, I'm going to die
• wow
• let me grab some ammo
  it felt like a premade where you know each other for long, except that it was quite annoying, at one point I was losing focus and told him: Listen, keep the chatter to yourself, I'm trying to focus, I don't need to hear everything that is happening from your PoV

He was quiet for 10 seconds ... then he continued

We were all so happy when the match was over

[grim inlet]

i got a rando once who was a level 200 psyker and he didnt know the names of any of the elites or specialists

[quartz barn]

This is the rare occasion that actually sucks, when youre semi forced to play on someone else rythm

[midnight jolt]

I don't know all the names (I think), being playing for 3 weeks or so 😂

[quartz barn]

Either you do your own thing that you know is more effective, but they just die because they cant keep up

Or you follow along and just waste a ton of time for no reason

[grim inlet]

it was funny

he called maulers "hard guys"

[quasi junco]

Someone can still be good at the game and unable to carry 3 ultrabaddies, no idea what you are getting at

[midnight jolt]

I had a match where 2 vets were just going too fast for me, I was dying because I couldn't catch up, I have improved that with the lesson learned, but still, felt like there was an abysmal skill difference

[quartz barn]

What that isnt my point at all

[quasi junco]

Ok my mistake

[quartz barn]

Read back a bit if you want the bigger picture

[quartz barn]

From here ish

[midnight jolt]

Have you seen the kind of warriors where A beats B, B beats C and C beats A? you would think A is better than C but that's not the case, where am I going with this?
Let me explain; sometimes we get in teams that for some inexplicable reason don't work, and is not because skills, is just the wrong team

[deep pine]

with surge staff should you always be going for fill charges?

*full

[midnight jolt]

Depends, sometimes half is enough, if you have control on the flank where a huge horde is coming from, then full

You will learn in time how much charge it needs, it kinds converts into a muscle memory in time

[deep pine]

ok - just learning the build. I've played about 10 damnation runs and all pretty smooth...but I feel like my damage and kills should be higher.

so not sure if I getting some key things wrong or what not

[midnight jolt]

that's the thing with purgatus, your damage is about spreading the fire, but you may not be the one that gets the kills

[hollow halo]

you met the real life Loose cannon vet

[marble crater]

So true, I had missions with worse players that went better than missions with better players just because we were all on the same page

[wet belfry]

Ive met people with over a thousand hours that still dont know every enemy code ex (traxis 1, traxis 7)

[radiant frigate]

traxis-something-something energy

[hollow halo]

something-something with a net 😩

ít's how i call out all the specialists too when in voice chat, definitely the most relatable for me

[vestal fulcrum]

Bully Ogryn screaming

Little girl with big net!

[urban sandal]

for some reason the subtitles say ‘little boy with big net’

or guy

[edgy pulsar]

i genuinely didn't realize the tox-flamer was a laaaaaady. that screechy hoarse voice could be anyone.

[hollow halo]

Probably just a mistake on their end. there are a few mistakes in the subtitles, a few times they spell 'solider' instead of 'soldier'. can probably send a bug report out and they'll get it fixed soon™️

[urban sandal]

both the flamers have the best voice lines hands down

[hollow halo]

That permanent strep throat you get from being a Nurgle worshipper do be rough

[edgy pulsar]

i literally didn't even realize the scab flamers had voice lines. i just hear TIK TIK TIK blarghablarghablargh and then woooosh

the distortion from the helmet is very strong

[urban sandal]

I’ve never been able to figure out their line that sounds like “HMM scorched air cauterise ‘em” or some shit

[edgy pulsar]

i can hear the bomber, sometimes. but i swear the bomber is the sneakiest special overall. except the 'ting'. but they can yeet those nades across half the map, like holy shit that throwing arm

[cold geode]

Scorched earth cannon ragers

[radiant frigate]

isn't it "scorched earth cannon barrage"

[edgy pulsar]

my mind keeps wanting to call the bursters "bombers" because they are the bomb

[cold geode]

That might be it aswell

[radiant frigate]

or perhaps because they are referred to as poxwalker bombers on occasion

[urban sandal]

7 seconds in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kM1OfAkOZhg

[radiant frigate]

scorched earth coming right up

on further inspection

[edgy pulsar]

am i the only one that finds the back-mounted spike of the scab bruisers sorta funny?

[urban sandal]

sounds about right

[radiant frigate]

it is solid

it sounds insane

but

it is not as good as vt2 flamer lines

[edgy pulsar]

the back-spike thing looks like a hook to tie them to something like a misbehaving dog

[vestal fulcrum]

They specifically say “man”, IIRC

[urban sandal]

yeah probably

haven't played for a bit

[radiant frigate]

not too fond of ogryns

but they are funny

[edgy pulsar]

enemy ogryn are funny or friendly ogryn?

[radiant frigate]

enemy ogryn are stupid

friendly ogryn are funny

i feel like enemy ogryns' only line is "ogryn too tough"

(and then they die)

[edgy pulsar]

woe, brain burst be upon ye

[radiant frigate]

or the occasional "crush you"

[vestal fulcrum]

Moebian 6th doesn’t have big brain Ogryns

[radiant frigate]

ogryns got nothing on chaos warriors

[vestal fulcrum]

Meanwhile

[edgy pulsar]

chaos warriors oozed personality

[radiant frigate]

CAN YOU DO NO BETTER?

[vestal fulcrum]

We have Ogryns that want bone’ead implants to… think more (Bodyguard)

[radiant frigate]

and ogryns that think they are smart enough as is

[vestal fulcrum]

Or ones that don’t need them, because they think they are smart enough as is

Yep.

That’s Bully for you

[mighty fractal]

Chaos Warriors have a lot of charm because they have specific callouts for each character

[radiant frigate]

and the one that has it, but is malfunctioning

[edgy pulsar]

there's something slightly amusing about the psyker getting the most saltzpyre-like sword.

[mighty fractal]

Maulers in this game have more personality than Crushers, but it’s only because they sound angrier

[radiant frigate]

maulers sound impatient

most of what i hear from them is "AAAA LET ME THROUGH"

[mighty fractal]

Zealot would be absurd with dueling sword

More absurd than that class already is

[vestal fulcrum]

Martyrdom DS Zealot

[urban sandal]

dueling sword would be cool with a parry

[radiant frigate]

not too fond of zealot

[edgy pulsar]

it's just funny since Saltzpyre would bitch so much about psykers

[radiant frigate]

i think zealot would be spicier with power sword

[mighty fractal]

Sometimes I get that itch to play caxe zealot

[radiant frigate]

i never get that itch because i have seen someone else play it once

[mighty fractal]

But ironhelm and crusher are the more interesting weapons

[edgy pulsar]

speaking of, my dudes. what's the benefits of tac axes versus combat axes?

[radiant frigate]

running away from a horde holding block

and from that point on i have decided i am never going to use an axe

[mighty fractal]

Combat Axe is strictly superior thanks to brutal momentum combined with the combat axe’s horizontal light attacks

It’s a very braindead and strong weapon that handles any enemy (light attacks for hordes, heavies for single-target armored enemies)

[edgy pulsar]

but tac axes can get brutal momentum?

[mighty fractal]

Tac axe is more crit-focused

But they have less range and cleave

Their light attacks are mostly vertical

[edgy pulsar]

hm. i see. i tested some combat axes in the psykanium, they seemed to struggle a lot to hit more than one target.

[mighty fractal]

You need brutal momentum to make combat axes work

And you want either a Rashad (best in class) or an Antax (slightly weaker due to lack of finesse substat but still very strong)

also nice kancolle pfp

[edgy pulsar]

thanks.

[radiant frigate]

but is it a magic sword? didn't think so

[mighty fractal]

nobody remembers kancolle anymore

[edgy pulsar]

anyways, what makes the Rashad 'best' in this case? good swings?

[mighty fractal]

Give psyker a force dagger tbh

[radiant frigate]

better stats i guess

[quasi junco]

finesse

[mighty fractal]

I will never use anything else

[quasi junco]

other caxes have cleave targets

rashad has finesse

[radiant frigate]

you are thinking small

[edgy pulsar]

honestly i'm a surface fan. like really really really really surface. literally only like her and nobody else.

[radiant frigate]

you should think big

[mighty fractal]

It has a finesse stat

[radiant frigate]

force greatsword

[edgy pulsar]

doesn't the Achlys have that too?

[mighty fractal]

Antax has a cleave substat instead, but that’s largely irrelevant because Brutal Momentum gives you infinite cleave on kill

[radiant frigate]

yesn't

[edgy pulsar]

on weakspot kills, yes

[radiant frigate]

brutal momentum just ignores hit mass on headshot kills

[quasi junco]

not infinite cleave, still has a cap of like 4

[radiant frigate]

(now)

[quasi junco]

but killing four heretics with one swing is still great lol

[radiant frigate]

brutal momentum in The Before Times™ is a perfect illustration of why i hate the gear system

[untold niche]

is there premium skins for staffs?

[quasi junco]

that and none of this shit is explained properly in game

[radiant frigate]

you could either have an axe do what an axe does, or you could have an axe that kills 4 things per swing instead of one

[quasi junco]

I learned like 90% of the games mechanics from this discord

[edgy pulsar]

the game needs a glossary really badly

[mighty fractal]

Yes, but people don’t like the achlys because of the swings themselves

They’re more vertical like the tac axes

[edgy pulsar]

ah

[mighty fractal]

Achlys heavies are what cleave, but they’re awkward

Achlys looks the coolest out of the three tbh

[hidden crystal]

The system's a mess.

They've tamed some of the worst imbalances, but gear is still made or bricked depending on what upgrades you get on it.

[mighty fractal]

Force greatsword would be cool, and it’s probably coming at some point per datamine

[radiant frigate]

you could either have.. a little bit of crit, or +40% power

[mighty fractal]

But I want force stabby

[radiant frigate]

deimos

the big force stabby

[mighty fractal]

Oh right lol

Small force stabby tho

[radiant frigate]

fair

[mighty fractal]

Like Sienna’s dagger but with a warp charge special

[radiant frigate]

somewhat tempted to try deimos again

on the other hand, illisi exists

[edgy pulsar]

deimos is so STRONK tho

[hidden crystal]

The fact you can for example get +Carapace on weapons that have zero base carapace damage and you would never logically use against carapace, thus instantly wasting one of your reroll slots...

[mighty fractal]

Deimos stabs are satisfying

[radiant frigate]

+carapace devil's claw

[edgy pulsar]

deimos swings pretty quick and even the light attacks do pretty slappy damage

[radiant frigate]

not vs multiple targets however

[edgy pulsar]

it's also probably the overall most stylish force sword

[mighty fractal]

I’d use the new knife, but then I’d give up Deflector and the push attack being able to knock over a crusher from range

[radiant frigate]

if only we had more than 2 models

[edgy pulsar]

yeah the two later forceswords overshadow the first one like the two new shovels overshadow the first

[hidden crystal]

And it's so bloody hard to get gear with good stats in the first place that having a huge chance of Hadron bricking it has just made me give up on trying to improve my load out.

[radiant frigate]

awful gearing system, yes-yes

[hidden crystal]

One of my weapons in my current main loadout is stuck with a T1 blessing, but at least it's a T1 blessing I like the mechanics of.

[stone canyon]

Do you just reroll the 1000 melee ones?

[edgy pulsar]

🍰

[half turtle]

does blazing spirit 4 exist

[stuck sinew]

I think it counts your whole team's kills

[half turtle]

i feel like it doesn't exist

[potent echo]

Yea

[stone canyon]

Blazing Spirit ends at lvl 3

Get the mod that shows all available blessings

[hidden crystal]

You'd think it wasn't too big of an ask to over many hours of play get hold of an equivalent with T3 or the like, but no, the chances of that are horrible.

[half turtle]

well i swear i've seen a 4 on a sword

[stone canyon]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons/force-staff-trauma/equinox-mk-iii-trauma-force-staff

[half turtle]

but i guess they're technically different blessings

[stone canyon]

Well, on atleast that its only lvl 3

[hidden crystal]

Swords yes. Staffs no.

[half turtle]

danggg

well good thing i didn't just burn like 10k plasteel rolling for it

at least i got nexus 4

[hidden crystal]

This is another way in which the system is a pain.

[half turtle]

power cycler 4 does exist though right

[calm sapphire]

Yes

[cold geode]

Yes

[stone canyon]

Im missing that Lvl 3 Blazing from trying out Trauma

[half turtle]

cuz i spent a mil dockets and 20k plasteel on that

and still haven't found it lol

[hidden crystal]

That there are some blessings that stop at T3 and it doesn't tell you.

[stone canyon]

I think my best bet would be to get high rolled Trauma Staffs that are Green, and just first blessing in em?

[radiant frigate]

why

[stone canyon]

Cheapest plaststeel investment to see high likelyhood of lvl 3 blessing

[hidden crystal]

But yes, Cycler T4 exists.

[half turtle]

yeah it feels like 360+ weapons roll higher tier blessings

but i have no idea if that's actually true

[stone canyon]

Because Psyker is pretty ranged focused?

[calm sapphire]

There's a chrome extension to view the in game shop for blessings if your lazy and don't wanna log in

[radiant frigate]

not mine 💀

[half turtle]

oh no

[half turtle]

doesn't it count team kills?

[radiant frigate]

no

[stone canyon]

🤷‍♂️

Doesnt seem to from what ive tried

[half turtle]

idk i've always managed to get the 1k melee kills and i literally never use my melee weapon

[hidden crystal]

For T3 maybe, but it seems the system is weighted to be a lot less likely to give T4 on a blue upgrade than a yellow.

[radiant frigate]

anyway, your focus is what you make it

[half turtle]

except as a movetech

[fair spruce]

Every kill in the mission counts as credit, win or lose, even if you disconnect

Whole squad contributes

[stone canyon]

Yeah i already got the T4 Blessing i need so hunting for Lvl 3 now

[fair spruce]

Diamantine/plassteel too

[half turtle]

why do you need the t3?

or is it just completionism

[stone canyon]

Because Blazing Spirit exists only as lvl 3

[half turtle]

oh i see

i thought you meant you'd found the t4 of some blessing and now you were looking for the t3 of that same blessing lol

[stone canyon]

Im not that completionist 😅

[half turtle]

hmm i have a pretty well-rolled trauma staff but it has rending/flurry

instead of blaze/nexus

which is cringe teamwork shit

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, with an Illisi, a psyker racking up hundreds of melee kills is pretty normal.

[edgy pulsar]

god, "illisi" is such a wimpy-sounding name

[stone canyon]

Terminator Sword 3000

[half turtle]

i love the sound effect on the illisi

i love that it shlorps

i know it's pretty good generally for mechanical reasons but my favorite thing about it is unironically the sound effect

ok shit i just rolled this LOL

[edgy pulsar]

i always feel disappointed by the charge. like, i just spent what felt like hours charging it and swinging once, to do marginally more damage against a group of weak shit i could've killed with two regular swipes?

[half turtle]

i guess im doing blaze/nexus now

all i had to do was complain i guess

blast radius being small is kinda sad i guess

[dapper shadow]

How much smaller is the epicentre radius on 66% vs 80%?

[half turtle]

but whatever

[hidden crystal]

The biggest difficulty for me in getting melee kills for Melk is if I get on a team that's completely trigger happy and keeps insisting on mag dumping into hordes I'm already controlling just fine and we didn't need to use up the ammo on, thanks.

[half turtle]

i think 80% is 2.3, i have 2.16

[dapper shadow]

Thats not too bad

[half turtle]

7.28 on the total stagger radius (i.e. the fire radius) vs 10 tho

[dapper shadow]

That is a bit bad

[half turtle]

oh wait no

im dumb

10 is the 100%

7.28 vs 8.4

so not the worst i guess

i guess we'll see how bad it feels in practice, and if that's worth 2% more crit on warp nexus 4 instead of 3

[half turtle]

i love it when someone magdumps into a bomber or trapper that i literally have the big glowing circle under and am about to pop

and then i hit air with 2 seconds of trauma charge

[dim parrot]

can u animation cancel illisis charge swing?

[half turtle]

man also i hate that void and trauma look exactly the same (or at least both have the same aquila-head)

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, I don't understand some players' "Teamwork".

Had a game the other day where I went to help someone deal with a large group that was coming in behind us - horde mixed with a few elites.

He then buggered off without telling me, I had to fight my way to a position I could bottleneck them, and absolutely no-one responded to my pings for help, so I then had to try a retreat to get to the rest of the team, by which point I was nearly dead.

[half turtle]

imo the worst is that people with easy knocks (like voice vet or vent psyker) don't realize that they can use it to stagger dogs off of people

[untold niche]

tbh its kind of on you not noticing he buggered off :v
And of course, he probably either didn't noticed you were there or thought you had it.

Of course i find myself in these situations and it feels bad

[half turtle]

like i think most people don't know you can shriek dogs off of people through walls as long as they're within 25m

[quartz barn]

To be fair its super unintuitive

[paper loom]

On columnus why is fire frenzy better than death spitter?

[half turtle]

i stg sometimes i get dogged once within 15' of my team and the dog stays on me long enough to eat a whole wound of purple

[untold niche]

yeah i didn't know you could vs through walls, but im defo not wasting a vs just for a dog on you, would rather just shoot the dog, which is way better than 99% of the people slowly walking up to melee the dog

in the past*

someone here told me and my mind was blown

[half turtle]

yeah sometimes you don't have good los though

[quartz barn]

Also you can do the same with purg normal attack

[half turtle]

i think my priority is ranged weapon stagger, then shriek, then maybe push if it looks safe, otherwise sorry

but i consider un-dogging people to be pretty high priority generally

[untold niche]

i would shriek for him if its dogged under a mixed horde and i can't save him

[quartz barn]

Cloud knockback travels farther than the cloud itself xd

[half turtle]

oh yeah i almost never use purg though

[cold hornet]

Does pushing an enhanced dog knock them off?

[half turtle]

but yeah purg lmb is goated stagger

[untold niche]

else i see no reason for me to waste a shriek on a dogged guy

[cold hornet]

Haven't tried that yet

[hidden crystal]

It doesn't take someone long to bugger off; I can't tell that the reason he's stopped firing for a few seconds isn't that he's run out of ammo and decided to switch to melee.

[half turtle]

oh yeah i'm not saying people should use shriek instead of other options

[quartz barn]

I can see why he left tho

[half turtle]

but sometimes you're at a weird angle and shriek is all that works

[untold niche]

doesn't take long for you to check either.
these things are bound to happen imo
sometimes none of you are at fault

[quartz barn]

If i clear the back its super annoying when someone comes to help out

Because most enemies come from the front

[half turtle]

usually only one guy needs to be on back horde duty yeah

[untold niche]

yeah that makes more zombies come from the back

[half turtle]

although sometimes you get a funny crusher patrol

or double crusher patrol

[quartz barn]

The back is either a regular horde or just special spam

And special spam isnt too hard to deal with once you play long enough

[cold hornet]

Just hate the pain train of poxbursters spread slightly apart

[half turtle]

that's the worst

[untold niche]

i front tank ragers because its actually easier for me to clear them this way
|| and ego ofc ||

[half turtle]

that's why i love trauma staff

you can also spam purg lmb or smite to "skip" them

[quartz barn]

Always ego lmao

[half turtle]

just stab em in the head ez

[untold niche]

dude i played with three vets and i keep missing headshots because they shoot stuff and the ai wince from the pain

[cold hornet]

One of the main reasons I use purge. Just risk a 10% chance of accidental brain popping them in my face

[half turtle]

yeah that's actualkly one of the reasons i never run flayer

[potent echo]

This is actually really frustrating

[half turtle]

that and like, so much of the time it just procs on random pox zombies

[dapper shadow]

I did it through walls a couple times and I’m proud of myself

[potent echo]

For guns in general

[hollow halo]

not only guns. Staffs do it too when you spam left click (besides purg)

[half turtle]

yes it feels super clutch

dude staff lmb bolts are actually super value

they have ginormous hitboxes and they stagger most specials and elites if they haven't started attacking

also they suppress the fuck out of basic shooters

[dapper shadow]

yes

YES

JOIN THE LMB CLUB

THIS IS THE REAL META BUILD

FUCK VOID STRIKE

do you want infinite ammo

[half turtle]

i actually can't stand using voidstrike

[dapper shadow]

Do you want to have an auto gun

Look no further

[half turtle]

there's just something that doesn't click about it for me

[dapper shadow]

I hate void strike because the charge up plus slow sucks

And you have to aim heads

[hollow halo]

people sleeping on it, but when theres that sniper 80 meters away and my assail wont lock on it comes in clutch

[half turtle]

also (and this is gonna sound dumb) but it doesn't generate enough peril

[hollow halo]

we're all warp riders here, you are free to speak

[half turtle]

so it's hard to get warp rider going and it's hard to get toughness back with it

[untold niche]

wait what slow

[untold niche]

tbh all the heads are in a straight line without bobbing like e.g. in cod

[dapper shadow]

Build it

[half turtle]

i unironically quickswap staff > lmb to keep up peril as part of my movetech muscle memory now LOL

[untold niche]

kongrats

[half turtle]

you have just enough time to quickswap to staff, shoot one lmb, then quickswap back, during a sprintslide on knife or dueling sword

[hollow halo]

its so good, but it takes so much mental energy constanly edging at 90%

[untold niche]

just edge at 80

[dapper shadow]

I've gotten better at not exploding with it

but I still do sometimes

[untold niche]

why do you edge at 90

[hollow halo]

84% if you want to be pedantic, but you know what i mean

[half turtle]

yes i can tell when it's getting late because i just explode 2-3 times for no reason

[dapper shadow]

the pure LMB experience

[half turtle]

and it's like, welp, time to go to bed

[untold niche]

ah yeah
for its 84 and above quell 1 tick
80 is where i tryu to be at

[dim parrot]

siblings talking about edging again smh

[tulip kettle]

me every time i swap from playing a build with shriek to one without it

[hollow halo]

you just type in chat "Sorry guys" and you get revived, someone types "no problem fam, it happens" but you still feel bad about it lmao

[dapper shadow]

Edge with scrier's gaze

[half turtle]

"sorry guys i was thinking too hard"

[cold hornet]

I just wish scriers gaaze ended at 95 peril instead of 100. I always blow up using it with a staff

[dapper shadow]

I can three tap LMB maulers to the head with scrier active

its actually insane

[hollow halo]

sometimes you're just in the zone, throwing bolts left and right, seeing kill markers pop up and you let yourself go

its only natural

[dapper shadow]

what zone

I just spam LMB

at whatever direction enemies are

[tulip kettle]

an adroit termination sibling!

[hollow halo]

the one where you vibe to Jesper Kyd songs

[hidden crystal]

This absolutely was not. Large horde, several ragers, some gunners mixed in for good measure.

This was something I would have been a jerk to leave the guy to handle on his own, but then he did exactly that to me.

[dapper shadow]

I really do think LMB isnt a meme build

[half turtle]

it's not

[dapper shadow]

and its just as viable as voidstrike

after spending a number of games with it

[half turtle]

but i think i wouldn't run it with void

[dapper shadow]

Trauma for the cc

[hollow halo]

can make a lot of things viable on a class with infinite ammo. Go ham

[tulip kettle]

do it on surge staff...

[dim parrot]

honestly cant play darktide well without being in the zone

[half turtle]

this is what i do, i spam the crap out of lmb with trauma unless ther'es an ongoing mixed horde

[dapper shadow]

I know surge staff has more damage

but surge staff doesnt have the blessings

for LMB

[half turtle]

the denser the horde is the more damage trauma does

[tulip kettle]

what blessings is it you want?

seems like nexus is the main thing

[tulip kettle]

oh youre after surge i see

[dapper shadow]

yep

Its really good damage

[half turtle]

i actually like blaze on the lmb

but im not sure if it's actually good

it seems like it stacks up real good on bosses tho

[dapper shadow]

trauma also gives you aoe cc

[tulip kettle]

is transfer really required? seems like you would be fine with battle med

[half turtle]

i think blaze trauma is the best staff for solo play actually

it has lmb, it has rmb

[tulip kettle]

or is the theory that you always hit heads so never need to quell at all

[half turtle]

you can run a ds4 to kill mutants i guess

[dapper shadow]

I honestly prefer brittle trauma compared to blaze because I can charge shots a lot faster

also I don't really like edging at 80%

that much

[half turtle]

oh yeah i think brittle actaully causes more total damage too (although it doesn't show up under your name on scoreboard : ( )

[cold hornet]

And brittle helps out your team to take down big groups

[half turtle]

but i meant like, if you're playing solo the blaze damage is incredibly clutch

[cold hornet]

As you fling crushers every which way

[dapper shadow]

I have quite a lot of fun with support psyker

yeah thats true

[half turtle]

cuz you actually get full value out of the burn ticks which will never happen in an actual game

[dapper shadow]

I use blaze trauma shriek for melee only enemy runs and support brittle trauma for ranged only enemy runs

[tulip kettle]

the irony

[dapper shadow]

and for normal damnations I run LMB trauma staff

[tulip kettle]

that you guys were complaining about vets making you miss headshots

like 10 mins ago

[dapper shadow]

trauma is truly the staff of all time

[half turtle]

blaze trauma is so fun in melee maelstroms

[tulip kettle]

and now talking about running trauma and throwing stuff around 😄

[dapper shadow]

everything is trauma

[half turtle]

ok i will say, if anyone is surprised by trauma knockdown they need to get better at noticing the giant circle slowly growing on the floor

[cold hornet]

Another plus for the purge staff. Other than blinding your team with your flame hands

[hidden crystal]

It makes a big difference to how long you can go without venting.

Battle mediation on average quells 1% peril per kill. Transfer Peril can be several times that, and against a large horde you basically can indefinitely sustain it.

[tulip kettle]

my main build is a flurry transfer void for infinite casting

[half turtle]

fun fact, i actually don't run battle meditation because it lowers my peril

[tulip kettle]

but i feel like if youre trying for a surge build nexus is so much more value

[half turtle]

peril is life

high peril is 20% damage, 20% crit, 30% toughness DR, and 50% toughness heal on demand

[tulip kettle]

like i am the biggest advocate here for running transfer on void

[cold hornet]

Peril is life

[tulip kettle]

but if your whole thing is to lmb spam crits

surely surge and nexus are both required

[cold hornet]

For purely lmb, sure. But it is nice to have some way to deal with chunky hordes

So I see the reason for trauma

[half turtle]

trauma rmb is just too much utility to not use tbh

literally hold down anything forever and you don't even have to aim

although tbh the thing i hate to see most when i play trauma is me at top dps lol

[dapper shadow]

You do have to aim once it gets further away

also yeah

If I'm getting top dps especially with brittle trauma

I know its going to be a hard round

[half turtle]

you also know it's bad when your soulblaze damage > your ranged damage on blaze trauma

[half turtle]

im actually terrible at this lol

esp cuz there's always like fire and shit

so i can't even see the aiming circle

[dapper shadow]

I can aim pretty well after training with trauma for a ton of games with three builds

idk whats the range limit though

feels about 25m

[half turtle]

hmm i think i've played nothing but (mostly brittle/flurry) trauma for probably 100 true levels worth of games

i can hit a guy in fire at 20m about half the time

[dapper shadow]

ping first

[hidden crystal]

I've got a fairly poor Warp Resistance Illisi, which is great for getting up the Peril in the first place, but against larger hordes some extra quelling is required to sustain charged attacks.

[half turtle]

i've been trying to figure out if it's possible to guess where they are just from the healthbar

but the problem is the healthbar doesn't tell me how far away they are : (

[dapper shadow]

at the very least they'll get staggered

[half turtle]

yeah i can usually stagger a special which is good enough

like even just edge-staggering a trapper or flamer is usually enough for an ally to snipe 'em

the times when it matters though are like, woops 10 shotgunners

i have definitely missed 10 shotgunners hiding in fire twice and then just died

[dapper shadow]

I wanna go back to my surge staff build again though

after someone in vet chat said surge is trash

[half turtle]

hmm surge is really good but also really specialized now imo

it feel slike when i run surge most of my horde damage is perilous combustion

thankfully the director is kind enough to spawn 4+ ragers on each horde

so i can get enough fire stacks to clear it all

[midnight jolt]

Your daily reminder that I got the myth blessing roll 😉
#psyker-class message

[hidden crystal]

Surge staffs are good with teamwork. Not so much if no-one is using the opening to kill what you've stunned.

[dapper shadow]

pure surge staff is still really good imo. Yeah you won't be clearing hordes quickly but you're an elite/special/boss killer

And you make the game so much easier for others

when you can snipe all the gunners behind their cover

[half turtle]

hm surge has great damage tho

[dapper shadow]

without even aiming

surge can one shot almost every special

stun everything except monstrosities

[half turtle]

surge is nothing like it used to be

where it just stunned 10 guys by tickling them

[dapper shadow]

It does have good damage now

[half turtle]

it seems like it's just really great at mixed hordes

[dapper shadow]

charges extremely fast too

[half turtle]

you can really quickly pop off the 3 ragers and 2 flamers hiding in the horde

and then let soulblaze do its thing

[dapper shadow]

yup

[half turtle]

it's fun but it definitely feels like there's setup involved

[dapper shadow]

it makes packs of ragers a joke

I run it with this

[half turtle]

i love killing the first 4-5 ragers and then having the rest of them just burn to death before i can start hitting them

same with shotgun and gunner packs

[dapper shadow]

the major thing is that they dont even get to fire or do anything before they're dead

so no one in your team will get pushed around

they wont even notice anything because the special/elite is already dead

[upper sun]

clearly photoshopped

surge is not real

[dapper shadow]

it took me a few tries :^)

[half turtle]

hmm that's pretty close to what i have except i take 5% crit node (above kinetic deflection) over battle meditation

[dapper shadow]

thats fair

[hidden crystal]

I forget that's a crit boost, I've mostly got it to get KD.

[cold hornet]

Yeah, I'd go soul stealer over meditation and grab the crit

[half turtle]

funnily enough, i almost never take kinetic deflection

i think i take it on my gun build and that's it

[hidden crystal]

I didn't like crits that much before, but I've ended up with a few talent picks to that effect now.

[half turtle]

i think nexus + surge / nexus + blaze is just kinda busted on void and trauma

[cold hornet]

I need to run it more. Last mission I did had 13 monstrosities. I didn't ever have enough block to stop 3 of them at once

[half turtle]

i kinda hate monstrous specialists ngl

it just feels like it turns into boss dps check

[hidden crystal]

Oh, I stack KD with a Stamina curio. Fun to tank an entire horde while reviving.

[half turtle]

and sometimes your team just has no boss dps and you're like, woops

[dapper shadow]

I usually find those boss killer zealots in those missions

[half turtle]

guess ill die now