psyker-class

[patent wing]

thing is, i cant handle crusher and bulwark spam anymore without my trauma

[lyric burrow]

Duelling sword isnt awful for bosses with uncanny/dd but you gotta consistently land headshots so its really only viable on plogryn

Or just be like me and convert to scriers/dd gunker

[spice veldt]

if only duelling/force sword push-attacks were more offensive

[dim parrot]

maybe new force sword some point in the future

[spice veldt]

2h force sword with offensive push-attack pls

[umbral helm]

shove and cleave would be fun

[oak sparrow]

does warp siphon CDR work with scrier's gaze?

[vocal cliff]

It should work with any of the abilities

[spice veldt]

it doesn't work with scrier's gaze, presumably because its CD doesn't begin until after the ult ends

[lunar hollow]

it does work if u start scriers at 100

[spice veldt]

in fact, it does work with scrier's gaze if you ult at 100

[lunar hollow]

im faster

get owned

[spice veldt]

bitch

[lunar hollow]

obliterated

[tulip kettle]

i heard theres something in the game files for 3 more force swords including a 2 hander but i dont know about that stuff at all. You heard anything as such?

[spice veldt]

ye there was like this insignia leak of sorts

that showed a 2h force sword and a 2h power sword

[lunar hollow]

they leaked a bunch of unfinished assets basically

[spice veldt]

there's also a model of a 2h power sword

[lunar hollow]

like the carnival pt 2 weapons had models that were datamined

[spice veldt]

of course, the weapon itself, including the attacks and whatnot, doesn't exist, but i am pretty expectant of 2h swords coming to vet and psyker at least at some point in time within the next century

the weapon calculator also has an "illisi balanced knife" or something like that in the weapon selection list

so force knife i guess

[lunar hollow]

i want a force halberd

[patent wing]

i want a fkin new staff

with boss dmg, preferrably

[spice veldt]

i'd hop back onto psyker if we get either a 2h force sword that's cool or a precision force staff

[oak sparrow]

"It does work with scriers gaze if you start at 100"
100 what?

[spice veldt]

100% peril

[patent wing]

what about 2 force daggers? even better

[lunar hollow]

100 skill

[spice veldt]

AKA it ends immediately

[lunar hollow]

(peril)

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

dual wield weapons are also something i want

[oak sparrow]

ah

[spice veldt]

just some variety since the overwhelming majority of melees are just 1-handers

just for some variety in the animations

[patent wing]

imagine a warp poison staff that leaves a poisonous trail

[spice veldt]

another DoT that's not soulblaze would be neat

[olive ember]

Eh

Most of the dots in this game are meh right

Bleed is meh

[shrewd shard]

Dual Sais

[tulip kettle]

bleed is great for giving me DR on ogryn

[spice veldt]

DoTs are fine for what they are

[tulip kettle]

for actually doing anything yeah its meh :L

[queen fog]

Dual staves, who needs hands to cast spells

[spice veldt]

it's just that there are way too many sources of spreading soulblaze, so you really can't attach impactful mechanics to soulblaze for balancing reasons

[dim parrot]

only hand casting

[shrewd shard]

Brain big enough to cast

[spice veldt]

so another DoT would be nice that is more limited and can have interesting stuff attached to it

[patent wing]

a railgun staff that we can feed assail into

[dim parrot]

fuck yes

[olive ember]

Idk how dots work in a horde clear game where you delete everything in front of you tbh

[patent wing]

make it only good vs ogryns for example?

[ionic needle]

dots are pretty strong vs monstrosities

[spice veldt]

they're strong in the sense that they're always in the background and the time that they're doing damage is usually much longer than the time that it takes to stack them

[radiant frigate]

i have said this before, I'll say it again
we have sword
we have dagger
but we do not have sword and dagger
this should be remedied

[spice veldt]

so true

[mental rock]

Give me dual axes

[olive ember]

Fuck swords and daggers

Give me the strongest melee weapon

Spear

Pokey stick

[radiant frigate]

i would also love to see force/power greatswords

[tulip kettle]

Because i promised it earlier, note its only 74 dmg on the staff, im making sure i proc true aim to guarantee the crit and making sure im above 80 peril and hit the weakspot

@rare arrow

@restive slate @willow hazel

but proccing a crit and being above 80 peril isnt THAT niche, i just personally prefer my lower rated transfer / flurry staff

[steep fractal]

Singing spear yes please

[radiant frigate]

witchblade when?

[tulip kettle]

so heres a question, why is it thati can avoid a POTW with shriek but not with the peril transfer on the void staff?

[spice veldt]

probably because you unequip your staff when in POTW so blessings on it don't proc

[tulip kettle]

this will be it, thank you

[spice veldt]

stuff like battle meditation does save you

[tulip kettle]

yeah i knew BM did

[spice veldt]

shrimply be lucky

[zinc phoenix]

Fuck that, sword and autopistol

[tulip kettle]

i was trying to work out why sometimes the void could avoid it and other times not

[zinc phoenix]

What kind of loser doesn’t want a left hand autopistol

😤

[tulip kettle]

worked out its to do with transfer not working, didnt realise you had nothing equipped when POTW

[spice veldt]

oh yeah if the enemy is too far away and the ball doesn't hit it before you enter POTW

[zinc phoenix]

I hope they take the dome mechanic and do more with it

[radiant frigate]

so you be saying
dueling sword with side gun

[zinc phoenix]

Imagine dome of mad

[radiant frigate]

i swear i have heard of this one before somewhere

[zinc phoenix]

Where everyone gets mad as hell

[radiant sleet]

Man I would kill for a psyker force spear/polearm with some good reach. Especially after playing glaive in MHW I am addicted to the glaive/spear playstyle.

[tulip kettle]

idk wouldnt reach weapons just be kind of broken in this game?

you are so mobile

[spice veldt]

a little bit of extra distance would prob be fine for melee
counterbalance it with psword dodges

-20% dodge distance

[radiant sleet]

Maybe, but it would be fun and I'm sure could be balanced if done right

[steep fractal]

Didn't the elf have a glaive in vermintide?

[tulip kettle]

vermintide is kind of different because lots of enemies have reach weapons and shields are more common and shooting is less so

IMO

[radiant sleet]

Idc if it would be trash against hordes, I just wanna poke crushers in the eye

[queen fog]

I remember sister of thorn spear u could yeet at people but not a fidget spinner blade to yeet

Granted I don’t use my elf often

[radiant frigate]

yeah but that's more like
elf greataxe

rather than glaive

she did also have a spear though

[tulip kettle]

also, going back to play VT2 after darktide just feels so clunky to me, characters feel so unresponsive

and trying to play sienna after getting used to quelling being free is pain.

[ionic sorrel]

What did you even do in VT2? Just use it sparingly? I never really played Sienna.

[tulip kettle]

yeah you can still quell but it costs HP

so like, because the hp mechanics in VT are different its still okay

it just feels bad hurting yourself you know?

[ionic sorrel]

I do know.

[tulip kettle]

ha.

[olive ember]

One of the playtesters hates how quelling is free in DT and wants quelling to ramp up (so start off slowly) and do direct hp damage if you quell from 70+

[tulip kettle]

well, no.

it could deal toughness dmg and that would be fine

[ionic sorrel]

I'll pass

[tulip kettle]

same as overheat on plasma gun

but direct hp dmg always feels bad

[olive ember]

Idk imo these guys are a bit disconnected from the regular playerbase. Like these are the people who play auric Damnation true duo and complain when there’s not enough spawns

Meanwhile the normal playerbase can barely do base Damnation

[steep fractal]

Leveling new characters lately had me learn that the normal playerbase cant handle malice either

[olive ember]

It’s the same throughout the levels

[ionic sorrel]

I had fun leveling an alt. I like being a hero.

[olive ember]

If you queue into Damnation, you’ll find most players can barely hold their own

If you move down in difficulty the player skill goes down accordingly

And so on and so forth

If you level alts you’ll more likely get newer players tho, since it matchmakes you to players of similar level when possible

[steep fractal]

Even level 30 characters with high level gear play heresy and still need to get carried by my level 23 vet with gray weapons

[olive ember]

Oh yeah well that’s just normal play

But I digress

https://youtu.be/WwYEqCLL7fY

This was the video I was referring to with the playtesters

One thing I felt was that some of their suggested changes/wishful thinking are like super grandiose and idk how practical implementing them would be, even if I agreed with everything in the video

Like completely rework the psyker tree, change how enemies spawn/behave, etc etc

[ionic sorrel]

I don't really mind the Psyker tree. What's wrong with it?

Getting crit aura and scream would be cool, but it is what it is.

[spice veldt]

at least compared to the other trees, getting blocked off does restrict the permutations that you can have

[steep fractal]

I personally think the game is in a pretty good place right now, every class has good builds available to them. Smaller balance changes to add more diversity to viable build options and just more content is all i feel is needed

[spice veldt]

and some things are just very free

e.g., warp rider and kinetic deflection

[olive ember]

A lot of the shit are passives and zero interactions

Warp charges are a meme

[spice veldt]

that too

[olive ember]

Empowered psionics is boring and DD is kinda jank imo

[spice veldt]

like, assail's quick shard is a big offender to me because it's a straight up +30% regen speed

[zinc phoenix]

I think the balance right now is comedy. Some builds are unplayable bad and others you can just face roll thru t5 mael

[spice veldt]

rather than a more interactive talent like "On weakspot hit, gain a 1-second buff that increases your shard regen by 30%"

or something like that

just straight up numerical buffs that aren't interesting

[zinc phoenix]

Like idk who designed voc or the current zealot tree but 😂

[olive ember]

I thought zealot tree is fine

Maybe that’s just me

Oh yeah telopots also hates zealot keystones

[radiant sleet]

Stealth Zealot in the hands of a God tier player is a sight to see

[wanton lagoon]

what exactly is the advantage of like the staff vs gun?

[olive ember]

Staff has more utility and crowd control, gun does more single target damage

[plucky flax]

Yes stealth loner is op.

[spice veldt]

none of our force staffs are single-target currently

[wanton lagoon]

the fire staff has really good cc , lighting staff seems ok but guns seem to just do more damage

[spice veldt]

yeah they're better for single-target

[wanton lagoon]

it only hits 2 ppl

[spice veldt]

staffs are still pretty good

[olive ember]

Lightning staff is mid

But some people like it

[wanton lagoon]

like the columnus seems to just do more dmg and dps outright

[steep fractal]

I love the surge staff

[olive ember]

It’s auto aim, ignores cover, ignores shields, and provides minor CC

[spice veldt]

well the columnus is one of the strongest guns in general

[olive ember]

So it’s aight

I just don’t think surge staff is great

[wanton lagoon]

im literally spamming surge staff all game and these veterans/psykers with guns do so much more damage

[plucky flax]

It's way better than the shitty purga staff.

[olive ember]

Sure

Are you using animation canceling with surge staff?

[wanton lagoon]

na the purg staff has crazy cc, everything just dies

[olive ember]

If you aren’t that will hurt your dps

[hearty oak]

Purga staff?

[wanton lagoon]

i dont think so? i just hold right click and click left to charge

[gray pendant]

is trickshotter good on this gun

[wanton lagoon]

i also dont have flurry

[steep fractal]

Stuns anything, autoaim, ignores armor

[olive ember]

Purge is hurt by its 16m range and that it’s still a “dot” weapon so people will just kill shit before you do

[wanton lagoon]

whats the animation canceling

[olive ember]

Yeah no if you use surge staff prob learn some animation canceling technique

[wanton lagoon]

how to use

[olive ember]

Either QQ canceling or blitz canceling

[wanton lagoon]

i just hold right click and click left when charge

[olive ember]

Once you let out your lightning, let go of right click and press Q twice

[steep fractal]

And its great for killing all those spread out ranged enemies that nobody i play with is ever built to do without charging straight into them

[olive ember]

This will perform a weapon swap to skip the animation and allows you to charge/ output damage faster

[wanton lagoon]

how much dps increase?

8ll try it in the psykatrinam

[radiant sleet]

If you key bind quell to mouse button it makes quell cancelling easier (imo)

[olive ember]

Honestly idk cuz I don’t like using surge but it’s noticeably faster

There’s a couple animation cancel techs yeah

[wanton lagoon]

i have quelling on mouse 5

[olive ember]

QQ canceling, blitz canceling, quell canceling

[steep fractal]

Its significantly faster, not sure how much

[patent wing]

we could use a new staff that kills monstrosities and applies a brittleness dot

[wanton lagoon]

wait so i have to hit qq every time? i cast?

[steep fractal]

Yes

[wanton lagoon]

bruh thats a lot of qq

[plucky flax]

I show you.

It's very easy (not)

RIP fingers.

[steep fractal]

Just quadruple your APM bro

[olive ember]

You may not like it but this is what peak surge staff performance looks like

Unironically

[steep fractal]

And be careful not to morb out doing it because you're too focused on the canceling to watch your peril

[radiant sleet]

Is Q originally the swap weapon button? I use QWE move and C, V, B for melee, staff, blitz so I dont even think I have weapon swap bound

[plucky flax]

Use blitz cancel it's better than qq.

[patent wing]

wtf

[olive ember]

It’s the swap key yeah

[plucky flax]

Whatever your blitz key is.

[olive ember]

I think I literally press 2 1 to swap

[radiant sleet]

I put Blitz on B because that made the most sense in my head

[steep fractal]

Also keep in mind that if your goal is to stun something, like a bulwark for your team to kill, its better to let the animation play out since itll more reliably keep it stunned longer

[olive ember]

Cuz when I try to QQ cancel I do QQQ instead and end up trying to charge with my sword and looking like an idiot

[wanton lagoon]

how to blitz cancel? and how to quell cancel?

[olive ember]

Blitz is same thing just instead of weapon swapping twice you swap to blitz and back

[spice veldt]

it helps to have good keybinds

i have my ranged on Q, melee on E, and blitz on X

[olive ember]

I prefer default binds cuz muscle memory

And yes that means dodge and jump are both space

Eat it

[midnight jolt]

Reminds me of Armored Core 6 quad shotguns, you had to press Q + E, LMB + RMB, repeat

[spice veldt]

i changed my keybinds before i even played the game the first time 😎

[wanton lagoon]

dodge and sprint on shift just makes sense

[spice veldt]

since i changed my keybinds to how i had them set up in l4d2

[olive ember]

I tend to play with default settings

[radiant sleet]

If you ever get wrist pain, try QWES movement instead of WASD movement it's such a Godsend

[olive ember]

And yes that means I play games with like 70 FOV

Because they are default 70

[wanton lagoon]

i feel like im not properly qq canceling

[midnight jolt]

did you setup everything so space is always dodge except when sprinting?

[olive ember]

Lol no

[midnight jolt]

Try that, big change, takes a bit to get used to but once mastered is better

[olive ember]

Eh I don’t usually jump by accident

I have the dodge timing down by now for the most part

[olive ember]

Are you letting go of right click after the lightning comes out?

Ik if you hold right click it doesn’t let you animation cancel

[steep fractal]

Dodge timing is class specific, so if you're used to Psykers fast dodge cooldown you'll be jumping alot as a different character

[wanton lagoon]

on io have to let go

thx

[olive ember]

🤔 I mostly play zealot and psyker

Guess I’ll have to see next time I run some vet

[upper sun]

vet = bad

play ogryn

[dim parrot]

olives = bad

eat cheese

[upper sun]

NO NO NO YOU'RE WRONG WRONG

[olive ember]

I rly dislike playing ogryn

Idk why

[upper sun]

OLIVES ARE GREAT AAAAAAAAA

[midnight jolt]

Opinion 😉

[upper sun]

i wanna play ogryn and zealot but leveling is so annoying

[olive ember]

If you are confident enough just take your character into Damnation to level

Just don’t uh

Hard troll your team

[upper sun]

yeah die 20 times

and get mad xp when you get carried

[olive ember]

I mean if you are good enough you’ll be carrying

The average Damnation player needs some form of carrying

[midnight jolt]

When is 2:00am, you pick maelstorm and you see a Lv17 and 18 with you ...

[upper sun]

there is no way in hell you can carry anything on a level 10 char when all the weapons in the store have a rating of 140

[olive ember]

Auric maelstrom?

[midnight jolt]

I don't care how good you are but gear is lacking and you are missing 12 skill points

[olive ember]

Bet?

[upper sun]

yes

[steep fractal]

Find the god build that doesnt rely on late talents or specific blessings

[midnight jolt]

standard, but even then

[upper sun]

I bet

[olive ember]

Ah I was gonna say if they are auric that means you got hit with the 3 man queue

[upper sun]

ill give you 19 plasteel and 40k dockets

[steep fractal]

For veteran its called the plasma gun

[olive ember]

Lmao

[upper sun]

(all i have)

[olive ember]

Maybe I’ll make an alt and try it out

But I’ve done meme builds with grey weapons before

And did fine so

[upper sun]

the issue isnt grey weapon per say but the fact that all the grey weapons are extra bad at lower levels

[wanton lagoon]

yo if i send a video here can you tell me if im doing it right?

[upper sun]

i need 4 hits for a basic mob on my level 10 ogryn

[olive ember]

Uhhh I can try but I’m ngl I don’t actually animation cancel that much

[upper sun]

i just end up using shield pressing alt in the middle of a swarm and hopping my team cleans up

[olive ember]

I mostly use trauma which doesn’t need animation cancel to be good so yeah

[wanton lagoon]

u there?, if i send u a video can you tell me if im doing ti right

[plucky flax]

[upper sun]

can i just have a bot play the game for me?

[plucky flax]

I can't play trauma it's too hard. Surge is easier I don't blitz cancel that much in a real game.

[wanton lagoon]

is this what its supposed to look like

i dont have flurry, its a wip

[tulip kettle]

idk i top damkage nearly every game with voidstrike psyker

[dim parrot]

are there fake games?

[plucky flax]

That's because you are veri pro.

[plucky flax]

Yes it's all deepfakeAI.

[olive ember]

Looks decent all things considered

[wanton lagoon]

alr

[olive ember]

Could prob be a bit faster but that’s where practice and muscle memory comes in

[wanton lagoon]

yea

[plucky flax]

Not everyone is top 1% don't worry.

[olive ember]

But honestly my animation canceling looks the same cuz I don’t do it kekw

[plucky flax]

You'll get there yung padawan.

[wanton lagoon]

whats quell canceling and blitx canceling?

ive only played 2 games with this surge staff

[plucky flax]

Already better than me.

[steep fractal]

You're doing it right, but you can go even faster. Try switching the instant you shoot and be holding right click again before you switch back

[olive ember]

Same concept I’m psure just that you use quelling and blitz swapping instead of weapon swapping

So instead of pressing QQ press your quell button

Or blitz button

If someone can confirm or am I being stupid

[plucky flax]

I hide my keybinds in my vid so people can't copy my technique.

[dim parrot]

menace

[wanton lagoon]

quell doesnt seem to work, is there something im missing

[olive ember]

They just call you a cheater instead

Isn’t that right cheater?

[plucky flax]

Watch this for quell cancel. Skip to any part of the video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vx7DY17ZUtU

[wanton lagoon]

ok

[tulip kettle]

if you mistime pressing quell

you just stop yourself shooting

[near drift]

animation canceling is cheating how dare you do anything other than 1 input every 5 seconds

[tulip kettle]

so its better to not do it than try and fuck it up

[olive ember]

Wait is quell canceling doable on surge staff rmb?

Or is it only voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Yeah on lmb.

[olive ember]

.>

[wanton lagoon]

does this only owrk on left click?

[plucky flax]

It works on all staves left click. On right click it's a bit weird. You don't cancel animation as much.

But it works the most on trauma right click.

[olive ember]

Thought you had to quell cancel void

[plucky flax]

Idk I don't play void.

[olive ember]

I distinctly remember voidstrike needing quell cancel to not be shit pre rework

Well it still was shit

But less shit

But yeah for surge staff probably go with QQ canceling or blitz canceling

[plucky flax]

You can charge again faster with quell cancel right click yes.

Marginally with surge, a little bit with trauma and void.

[tulip kettle]

but considering how fast you charge again with void anyway

and if you fuck it up you stop your shot

is it really worth?

[olive ember]

Eh when you are min maxing everything counts

[tulip kettle]

lol

[olive ember]

Tho it’s not needed imo yeah

[wanton lagoon]

heh i figured it out

works really well damn

[olive ember]

Save my fingers

[wanton lagoon]

its literally like double dps

[olive ember]

Now you can make a lmb staff and lmb your way to victory

[wanton lagoon]

but surge doesnt really use lmb

man now i wanna play purg staff

[olive ember]

Surge lmb is what you use for snipers and shooters that are too far away

[wanton lagoon]

is purg staff same build?

[olive ember]

Nexus flurry yes

Voidstrike is surge + nexus and trauma is blazing spirit + nexus

[near drift]

I do like playing bowling with my voidstrike twin bowling balls

[wanton lagoon]

what about talent?

[olive ember]

Talent? You mean perks

[wanton lagoon]

no talent points

like the build

[olive ember]

Oh

[plucky flax]

My suggestion is go with creeping flames warp charges and call it a day.

[olive ember]

Lemme show you mine

[plucky flax]

Take wildfire if you're very based (like me)

[tulip kettle]

do you play with quell on r?

[olive ember]

I do

[tulip kettle]

i do too, but i wonder

how do you quell cancel when its hectic

[olive ember]

You should also consider this

[wanton lagoon]

that is... the exact same thing pretty much im using on my surge

[tulip kettle]

youre losing mobility by having your finger on R the whole time

[olive ember]

Which is basically 15% more damage

[olive ember]

I don’t

I don’t animation cancel in general

[tulip kettle]

this is my take too

[olive ember]

But if someone wants to min max darktide I’ll tell them it’s an option

[tulip kettle]

im just wondering how anyone does it in a real game situation

[patent wing]

i just tried the uncanny assail

it sux

u need to be a million miles awy

[wanton lagoon]

how is it more dmn

[olive ember]

Btw in case your wondering the trade off here is basically you get slower BB and no empathetic evasion, but more toughness gen and a big 15% damage boost if you crit enough times

[patent wing]

so i can now decide, do i want boss dmg and columnus and be useless against ogryn gangs, or take a staff and deal no boss dmg

so great designed

[tulip kettle]

in the video posted of the guy quell cancelling on purgatus

he is strafing right as he is canceeling

so i can only conclude he rebound reload to a different key or its a macro

[olive ember]

Actually now that I think about it

I think I’d prob find a way to move while quell canceling

[tulip kettle]

im not saying you cant move

[olive ember]

If you’ve seen my mmo binds you would have an aneurism

[tulip kettle]

but you definitely cant move to the right

without rebinding reload from R

or you have an extra finger

[olive ember]

So one class his burst phase has him clicking a button basically every 0.75 seconds and uh

[spice veldt]

i personally have reload/quell on V

[patent wing]

mouse button 5 ez

[plucky flax]

I have 6 fingers.

[rare arrow]

You can have everything, boss damage included.

[patent wing]

mouse thumb is free to quell

[tulip kettle]

yeah so rebinding reload

[patent wing]

enlighten me but please dont get me going with melee into bulwark rager gang

[rare arrow]

I actually hate that DT allows any build to do it all

[olive ember]

Psyker tree is very uh

[plucky flax]

Oh that guy is cheater don't believe his videos. He's trash.

[olive ember]

Linear

You pretty much take the same shit on every build

[rare arrow]

Any specific blitz? What is it you’re struggling to kill

With what build

[olive ember]

Always take perilous combustion, always take warp rider, pretty much always take kinetic deflection

[tulip kettle]

is he? i dont follow content creators or whatever

[patent wing]

doesnt matter

[tulip kettle]

its just that if quell was on R he couldnt be pressing D at the same time

[rare arrow]

I mean BB/Fire Trauma/venting/EP deals with everything

[patent wing]

im playing auric damnation only

[olive ember]

You’re talking to the guy who made the video

[plucky flax]

Yep AgentChaos is notorious cheater with mods and stuff. Please dislike.

[patent wing]

trauma no boss dmg

[tulip kettle]

right so your quell key is rebound?

[plucky flax]

[olive ember]

But yes

[rare arrow]

Both bb and ds4 do the boss damage

[olive ember]

He is a cheater

[patent wing]

bb has boss dmg but only 5 casts, thats like 15% hp of a monstrosity

[tulip kettle]

or you have 6 fingers :L

[plucky flax]

[rare arrow]

Ds 4 deals 1200+ DPS and BB does slightly less if it’s the slug

[olive ember]

He uses chests like wall hacks (health bar mods) and spidey sense

[patent wing]

i mean boss dmg like a scriers columnus, gunlugger ogryn or thammer

bb is a joke

[tulip kettle]

ha

to be fair

[plucky flax]

You can bind quell to whatever key that's comfy for you.

[rare arrow]

You don’t play BB and ep I suppose

[tulip kettle]

yeah but like

i have been playing fps for 20+ years

[patent wing]

i do but what am i killing with 3 charges

[tulip kettle]

i cant rebind reload from R haha

[rare arrow]

BB and exp makes the first 3 free at 1 second cast times and with venting you cast the next 3 at less than that.

[plucky flax]

There's a mod for multiple keybind per action.

(That's cheating tho)

[olive ember]

What was the mod that was genuinely considered against TOS or wte and was removed from the modding page?

[tulip kettle]

i have a build where its realistic to put out 9 brain ruptures in 12 seconds

most at 80+ peril

[patent wing]

i can kill 1-2 crushers with that while the remaining for do bad stuff to my hp bar

[tulip kettle]

its a lot of dmg.

[plucky flax]

Alway first attack.

RIP my favourite mod.

[rare arrow]

I mean you can be against it if you’d like, and it won’t hit 5k DPS on bosses like builds that only tunnel boss damage

[plucky flax]

Now I have to manually do it.

[rare arrow]

But you will hit 3-3800 DPS on bosses and be able to do everything

[rare arrow]

It’s not for killing crushers

[tulip kettle]

whats always first attack?

[rare arrow]

Why do people use the worst arguements?

[patent wing]

yeah but it takes ages to kill a boss with bb lol

[tulip kettle]

as in it always makes you use your L1 / H1 and wont chain?

[patent wing]

even with ep and vent

[rare arrow]

It takes their HP /3k per sec at aurich Damnation. Maybe slightly longer depending on quells and what else you’re dealing with

[plucky flax]

Yes. You can do that but that mod automates the process.

[tulip kettle]

oh i see

[plucky flax]

A bit cheaty I guess but you can do it with enough apm.

It's gone now though RIP.

[tulip kettle]

i started to say

[olive ember]

https://old.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/13nws0a/the_most_efficient_hordeclearing_psyker_ive_seen/

It got removed cuz uh… well that ^^

[patent wing]

test in psyk it takes fking ages to kill a boss like that

[rare arrow]

They aren’t going to get dropped in 5 seconds, sure but your boss damage output is still extremely respectable

[tulip kettle]

HP bars is the actually most broken mod

the reason you get top dmg every game is because of that mod

its like everything is tagged for free

[olive ember]

Hp bars and spidey sense are genuinely giving people an advantage but its wte

[tulip kettle]

oh someone knocked down the rager?

ill take that

etc

[patent wing]

because sound tracking is awful and not possible

[olive ember]

Pmuch

[rare arrow]

Test it in real time and see that you deal a good portion of the boss HP while you’re in actual combat

Not raw numbers in the psyk

[patent wing]

i have the penace ik how much dmg it does

[olive ember]

But I’ve seen the mod it literally tells you exactly which direction the special is coming from

[tulip kettle]

yeah honestly idk why youre disagreeing with us here

[midnight jolt]

The scoreboard is depressing me, I'm always the last or 2nd last (3rd one here) 😦

[olive ember]

And you can color code it as well per special I think

[tulip kettle]

if you think 10+ empowered brain ruptures in about as many seconds is not good boss DPS on a bild thats optimised for other things

idk what to tell you

[tulip kettle]

get health bars mod

kill the stuff with healthbars that everyone else cant see

ez top scorer every game

and why scoreboard means nothing

[spice veldt]

the raw DPS of BB is still pretty whatever even with EP and resonance, and you're not going to have 100% uptime with EP and resonance

[patent wing]

im loading into psyk rn

[rare arrow]

If you know how much damage it does then idk why you disagree with the statement

[median elk]

What were you doing exactly?

[patent wing]

because it takes like 40 seconds or longer?

[rare arrow]

Is there better boss damage? Yes. Can you deal reasonable amounts of boss damage in a short time period? Yes

[tulip kettle]

no for sure its not like best possible

[spice veldt]

i consider it still pretty below-average

[tulip kettle]

what else would you suggest?

[spice veldt]

where guns and melees like the psword are my standard

[rare arrow]

And if you value sacrificing other places instead of having that short amount of time for an event that can at most happen twice a mission do it

[tulip kettle]

if youre running say, trauma illisi?

[rare arrow]

But don’t act like we don’t have the option

You just don’t like the option cause it’s not quite as fast

[tulip kettle]

what else will do the same dps as the brainburst spam?

[midnight jolt]

I'm the 3rd one on that screenshot

[spice veldt]

i mean yeah if you're running like that then sure

[tulip kettle]

and you do pretty much always have it

[rare arrow]

SG Colum I assume

[spice veldt]

but that doesn't go against the fact that it is below-average

[rare arrow]

Sg colum should beat bb and void strike

[tulip kettle]

well yeah but its below average because stuff like columnus exists

[median elk]

You did well

[spice veldt]

still below average compared to melees that aren't the thunderhammer

[tulip kettle]

its really quite respectable as an afterthought on a build optimised for other things

[spice veldt]

or below average compared to guns that aren't columnus

[median elk]

Dueling sword 4 heavies

[rare arrow]

The problem here is you’re comparing to another build

Which doesn’t make sense unless you’re deciding between the two

[tulip kettle]

right but then i have to run into melee range with the chaos spawn as psyker

[rare arrow]

If you’re looking for what your build can do it’s irrelevant if another can do it better

[tulip kettle]

and that sounds like not fun

[rare arrow]

s long as you can do it you don’t have to rely on someone else

[spice veldt]

yes, because I'm not making a statement about buiilds

I'm making a pure statement about BB

that its boss damage is below average

[rare arrow]

Sure, the vet may pump more boss damage but if you didn’t get a vet that could then you could have done it.

[spice veldt]

don't drag my statements into another argument

[tulip kettle]

im trying to work out what youre averaging it against

[rare arrow]

Depends on your build, below average compared to what? It crushes all of our other blitz in boss damage

[median elk]

DS is probably the safest weapon to engage a spawn with as a psyker

[tulip kettle]

every other blitz in the game?

[rare arrow]

So compared to dropping a weapon for boss damage?

[spice veldt]

compared to the DS4

let's say that's the baseline

[rare arrow]

It is your boss damage option on the blitz spot

[spice veldt]

or compared to a gun

[rare arrow]

DS4 has very strong boss damage potential at the cost of safety and standing in goop when fighting slugs

[spice veldt]

it is plain and simple below average

that's all I'm saying

it's fine to use it

[tulip kettle]

lol ofc its fine to use it

[rare arrow]

But in the case of a gun you’re sacrificing a weapon to it and you need to make that up elsewhere

[tulip kettle]

its fine to use no talents and grey weapons

[midnight jolt]

Too many mods? 😂

[spice veldt]

I'm just clarifying since it seems that my statement is being misinterpreted to mean that "it's below average so you shouldn't use it"

[tulip kettle]

right

[rare arrow]

Gross, mods

[tulip kettle]

but we are saying

[patent wing]

50 seconds and it stll has 30% hp

[olive ember]

Look at all these chests

[tulip kettle]

you are averaging against stuff that isnt comparable

[olive ember]

Fucking sound indicators

[tulip kettle]

so its not really fair

[olive ember]

And health bars

Bleh

[patent wing]

thats not good boss dmg

[tulip kettle]

its better than every other blitz in the game

[midnight jolt]

is mostly UI

[spice veldt]

it's less comparable with melee because of their uptime against the cspawn and bonbon but more comparable to guns

[tulip kettle]

apart from guns use ammo

and need to be built for boss dmg

[spice veldt]

ammo is not an issue if you're looting at all

[olive ember]

Cheater smh

[spice veldt]

i can't believe I have to say this in patch 13 and beyond

[patent wing]

columnus needs 24 sec without scries

[olive ember]

I play the game with ZERO mods

AS THE DEVS INTENDED

[spice veldt]

in what world are you ever running out of ammo in a pub game if you're doing any amount of looting

[hearty oak]

Manager

[tulip kettle]

no im just saying

it makes it not comparable

[spice veldt]

because blitzes use peril and guns use ammo?

[patent wing]

i just remember the glorious game where i was last man standing against 3 bosses and some other armored stuff

[tulip kettle]

you have to build the gun for boss dmg and it takes a resource away from your team

[spice veldt]

you don't have to build it for boss DPS at all

[patent wing]

wait let me pull out bb

[spice veldt]

and it doesn't take resources if you just explore sidepaths

do you ever not see teammates just pass up on ammo that you ping because they don't want to walk their ass to a side path

[strange fox]

Question which gun do you think is the strongest on Psyker or staff is you don't include their specials excluding the Colum (incase the Colum is ever nerfed)

[tulip kettle]

oh yeah

[spice veldt]

this is a plain and simple looting issue if you're ever running into ammo issues

[tulip kettle]

but then dude

im not maximising my dps

😉

[patent wing]

graia i think but idk i sometimes use accatran with dumdum infernus but its not as good

[hearty oak]

revolver. Graia IAG is neat

[spice veldt]

shoot first and grab ammo later

[tulip kettle]

for real though

monstrosity spawns

there are 4 players in the game

everyone does their stuff to it

i shoot 3 EP BB's in 3 secs at 0 peril cost

[patent wing]

yeah i like to build for solo play because i often end up alone

[tulip kettle]

shoot 3 more

scream and shoot 3 more

[spice veldt]

yes motherfucker i already said that it's fine to use BB

[tulip kettle]

it took 12 seconds and the monstrosity is dead

[spice veldt]

my only statement is that it's below average

[plucky flax]

When nobody picks plasteels.

[tulip kettle]

i dont think thats below average

[patent wing]

thats a blatant lie

im right here in psyk with spawner

[tulip kettle]

lol dude

[strange fox]

giving it a try

[tulip kettle]

do you have

3 other people

[patent wing]

and it takes ages to kill a spawn with only bb

[tulip kettle]

in there hitting the boss?

read what i said

[patent wing]

no i play solo

[tulip kettle]

do what i said

[fluid dawn]

Mk II laz pistol, surge staff is still okay, and void strike and purgatory are brain dead but very good.

[spice veldt]

if you're going to factor in the DPS of your team, then sure that's fine and all

but if I'm talking solely about a particular weapon

[tulip kettle]

you will do more than 1/4 of the boss hp in 10 seconds and likely have the most boss dmg at the end of the game

[hearty oak]

surge is great at kill stealing

[tulip kettle]

right but BB for sure isnt a sustained thing

[spice veldt]

i don't get why you are arguing against me and bringing in random points like "but what if team DPS"

when I'm talking about the DPS of a singular weapon

like I said

[tulip kettle]

it does great dps for the first 10 seconds or so

then drops right off

[spice veldt]

all I'm saying that BB specifically is below average

i'm not talking about your team or whatever

[tulip kettle]

and im saying its the best blitz in the game

[spice veldt]

among all the classes?

[tulip kettle]

for killing monsters

[midnight jolt]

I do all the time, but we kicked someone that was trolling, out of coherency (he was all over the place, probably picked plasteel left and right) ALL THE TIME, I didn't initiate the vote though

[spice veldt]

alright for killing bosses sure

[tulip kettle]

which is better? im guessing you think zealot nade?

[spice veldt]

no

[tulip kettle]

right

[spice veldt]

i just responded prematurely before you finished your sentence

[tulip kettle]

so its the best blitz in the game at killing bosses

but its below average

im so confused

[proper osprey]

Ep bb with kinetic resonance is the only way to do alright dps

[spice veldt]

yeah because you have weapons on your other slots?

it's the best among the other blitz options

[proper osprey]

Literally

Bb is amazing lol

[spice veldt]

but at any moment in time, you have your ranged and melee options as well

[patent wing]

u want me to upload the video where it takes 1minute16 to kill a spawn with only bb starting with 3 stacks EP and 3x scream?

[tulip kettle]

madrigal

nobody cares

[midnight jolt]

See, that one was an anomaly, felt like a 3 men run for more than half the time:

[tulip kettle]

nobody is saying you should just use BB to kill a boss solo

literally nobody is saying that

[fluid dawn]

The penance does

[tulip kettle]

HAH

[patent wing]

u are still overexaggerating that 3 bbs will deal 25% dmg to it

[tulip kettle]

i never said that

i said 9 will

which is what your combo is

9 BB in approx 12 seconds

then you do something else

shoot your 3 EP bb

[steep fractal]

9 will do waayyy more than 25%

[tulip kettle]

shoot 3 more

scream

shoot 3 more

it takes 12 seconds and you fire off a whole load of bursts

the boss will be dead by the time youre done in any normal game

[steep fractal]

Once I'm out if buffed BBs i just start killing adds or something

[tulip kettle]

and you will have done the most damage to it

[patent wing]

u mean first 3 ep, then scream, 5 more and then i have to wait until i get ep stacks or cooldown?

[proper osprey]

[tulip kettle]

no

you are on mid level peril

you shoot the 3

shoot as many more as you need to top off peril

[strange fox]

I'm actually a bit conflicted which gun will last longer, one with larger ammo pool but uses more ammo before reloading or one with less ammo pool but uses less ammo. ( Comparing the Agripinaa to Graia)

[fluid dawn]

Every time I pick BB it’s because I don’t have the brain power to press smite

[tulip kettle]

then keep bursting with resonance

when resonance is over you are done

and yes, then your DPS is terrible with it

but the boss will be dead

in ANY NORMAL GAME

[spice veldt]

agri has slightly more total damage per ammo pool than graia, but of course you deal damage in larger discrete components

[patent wing]

yeah got ya

[tulip kettle]

not some true solo nonsense

[spice veldt]

agri and graia IAGs are the same flavor of each other besides breakpoints

[olive ember]

Who cares about lasting longer, blow it all

[patent wing]

but i was specifically looking for some 20 seconds boss ttk weapon

[olive ember]

Max deeps

[tulip kettle]

well thats columnus gunpsyker

or zealot thammer

[patent wing]

yep and this is fine but then what i use vs ogryn gangs

[tulip kettle]

deimos or DS4

and brainburst 🙂

[patent wing]

to risky as they never come alone

[strange fox]

Because when you drop down into a gunners nest that happens to also have Ogryns in it, you kinda want to kill as many before reloading as possible

[patent wing]

i could go for shriek + smite and kill every other unit before i turn to the ogryns, but it still risky in case of a special from behind

[sinful peak]

what do I change>

[steep fractal]

BB doesn't require you to get close or shoot the head to do more than your share of damage to the boss, its incredibly reliable

[tulip kettle]

put specialists to maniac

[fluid dawn]

Specialist and unstable

[tulip kettle]

so you can 1 shot mutants

[patent wing]

above we already had the discussion that nobody is using bb vs ogryns

[tulip kettle]

and then if it was me i would put uncanny for deflector

because i dont run deflector on deimos

[fluid dawn]

Bad opinion

[tulip kettle]

ha

[steep fractal]

Specialist to maniac yes, one if the blessings to uncanny double yes

[tulip kettle]

i run deflector on illisi

deimos wants maniac + uncanny

and then unstable is really very good

[tulip kettle]

nobody

i dont exist

[fluid dawn]

Not better then kinetic reflection and deflector plus uncanny

[tulip kettle]

lol

dude

if i want to run delfector and KD i use an illisi

[patent wing]

???

[tulip kettle]

deimos is for stabbing big armoury dudes in the face

[patent wing]

its good vs 1-2 but not against gangs

[steep fractal]

Its up to you really if you want deflector or more damage, either is viable

[fluid dawn]

Honestly if your min maxing dmg stop running blaze and just use the dueling sword uncanny precognition

[tulip kettle]

and honestly, OH NO BB CANT 1 shot crusher

when basically noithing can

[patent wing]

plasma gun

casually oneshotting 3 bulwarks

[tulip kettle]

i have plasma guns on psyker?

is plasma gun balanced?

[patent wing]

no but thats why im upset

[fluid dawn]

This is a psyker chat heretic

[patent wing]

stupid op shit

[tulip kettle]

plasma gun is stupid and OP

[patent wing]

dude my vet is lvl 3

we all hate vets here

[tulip kettle]

i started properly learning understanding and playing vet literally 2 weeks ago

[fluid dawn]

Vibe lv 1 vet myself

[tulip kettle]

i discovered the plasma gun + shout + powersword with cycler 3

i stopped playing vet again.

[patent wing]

most op shit combo

[fluid dawn]

Yeah feels cheaty ngl and that you aren’t getting better like the scout in drg

[tulip kettle]

so expecting your psyker to do what is obviously some of the most broken shit in the game, on a different class

is kinda unreasonable

BB needs buffs

but its honestly useable and fine

[patent wing]

yeah its the best blitz

[plucky flax]

Specialists to maniac for sure. You will want uncanny on it too.

[tulip kettle]

theres an echo in here

[plucky flax]

Blessings is uncanny + your preference. Me personally I run uncanny deflector.

[fluid dawn]

Lmao

You thought

[tulip kettle]

?

[tulip kettle]

rock is the best blitz

followed by big bomba

followed by zealot throwing knives for the quick swap functionality

:p

[olive ember]

Rock is mid

I’m sorry but someone had to say it

[near drift]

the entertainment value tho

[tulip kettle]

i dont always bring rock

but when i dont,

https://tenor.com/view/sniper-saving-private-ryan-private-jackson-wwii-snipe-gif-21409137

[abstract arch]

Pov youre a blaze trauma staff user who just rolled her first 380 Trauma staff in 1000 hours!! Modifiers look OK lets go see miss hadron-

T_T

[olive ember]

You got hadron’ed

Rip

[ionic sorrel]

My condolences 😦

Could still be a little fun.

[midnight jolt]

is this blessing good? ignore the staff, I'm farming blessings, trying to get Warp Nexus 4:

[marble crater]

Best blessing for that staff

Some people think it's a myth and it doesn't exist

[olive ember]

It’s good on that staff

Do keep in mind the blessings don’t transfer between staff types

[midnight jolt]

I know, I was farming WN4 for this staff:

if I could replace warp flury

[olive ember]

I’d just swap nexus for surge

Ideally you have both nexus and surge but

It’ll still work if you have true sim

[midnight jolt]

and caparace for 5% crit chance?

[olive ember]

You can’t change carapace on that staff

[midnight jolt]

true, I was not looking properly

I have something to complain now, plasteel ...

[stone totem]

https://tenor.com/view/roblox-woman-face-blinking-fast-gif-10619060175867245273

[marble crater]

How important is damage stat on blaze trauma? Asking for science

[olive ember]

[midnight jolt]

apparently not much, because cloud radius and burn is what matters, you get more stacks the more burn, which is your true dmg

[olive ember]

Trauma doesn’t have burn or cloud radius

You are thinking about purge staff

[midnight jolt]

I was thinking purgatus

[marble crater]

[olive ember]

I’d check the psyker guide

I think for blaze trauma it’s not too important but

More damage is always good so

[marble crater]

Because I could build one now, with very high radius, charge and quell speed, but 35% damage

Let's see what the guide says

[marble crater]

good, thank you

[midnight jolt]

just git gud at crit 😂

for more stacks

[marble crater]

Well...

[tulip kettle]

hah

[tulip kettle]

https://tenor.com/view/hey-thats-pretty-good-good-pretty-good-gif-5074749

WAIT

is damage the dump stat on trauma?

blaze trauma that is obviously not on rending

[tulip kettle]

like do you want lower dmg to try to not kill stuff and get more fire?

[ionic needle]

Not really a dump stat, but others are more important for it

[tulip kettle]

right.... like i understand that radius and charge rate are the most important and why

but i dont understand how a 50% dmg staff would be good unless you were trying to not do dmg to make more fire somehow

i dont play trauma i dont like it, and if i do i play rending

[ionic needle]

I have a blaze trauma only for when melee scab only shows up

It's too stupid for that one

[tulip kettle]

seems rending would be better for that one

with all the crushers and all

[tacit cargo]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/749710804668121139/1197661867426971788/20240118230010_1.jpg?ex=65bc1488&is=65a99f88&hm=836abffef6042a7b6110d94756e3ba883f8a14261a236928f2a1590cddd21c3d& oh yeah

[tulip kettle]

not bad, not bad

[tacit cargo]

dmg kinda eh but it still deletes anything with a crit

[tulip kettle]

i posted earlier the one shot a crusher staff

[rose kite]

that looks hot

[tulip kettle]

i think yours wont do it

[rose kite]

dont worry man... i think your staff is sexy....

[tacit cargo]

possible, i have some better ones linend up but i was lacking the plasteel

gotta upgrade tho

[tulip kettle]

i honestly prefer this one

[tacit cargo]

love transfer peril

got one with that too

[tulip kettle]

this one i just shoot charged shots permanently with no need to quell

[tacit cargo]

yeah i usually play that

but i fainlly got surge so i gotta try

[tulip kettle]

oh for sure!

80+ peril with warp rider and a crit, which you can guarantee with true aim. This is without perfect timing stacks or DD stacks or anything

[untold spindle]

should i upgrade to blue, or orange for fishing for surge blessing?

are the odds of a t4 the same for both?

[rare mesa]

im triggered

im so triggered

team split 2x2 to go different routes

the other 2 never checked for mats

i didnt notice until game end

[spice veldt]

yeah I never ever trust pubs to loot

i'll always pace behind to check for plasteel since I also have the pickup notifications turned off

[rare mesa]

it makes no sense

[spice veldt]

not one of the two players looting 😔

[dim parrot]

I would loot for u siblings 🍃

[rare mesa]

oh this isnt zealot chat

i got so triggered i didnt kno where i was

[spice veldt]

lmao

[dim parrot]

lol

[spice veldt]

i've gotten lost in vet chat when they had a psyker discussion and only realized after that it was vet chat

[dim parrot]

could 100% happen to me

[spice veldt]

one day in the future

[junior wave]

will we ever be able to max out our weapons stats in some way?

like reds in V2

or the shrine of Sigmar in V1

[halcyon creek]

Probably

[halcyon creek]

Everyone liked that

[spice veldt]

yeah, it just seems like a matter of "when" rather than "if"

hopefully it's soon(tm) though

mah 100% quell speed staffs

[junior wave]

I don't want to be a downer but seeing how everyone has to gamble for their gear and how it can brick kinda makes the game depressing

[spice veldt]

100% charge rate, 100% blast radius, and 100% quell speed trauma staff 😳

[junior wave]

isn't the max 80%?

[spice veldt]

yeah, just remarking on the what-if scenario on when we get 100% stats

since the trauma staff is one of the widest stat scaling weapons and thus particularly shafted by the 80% stat cap

[midnight jolt]

Need plasteel but this is looking good:

[spice veldt]

at the same time, i do think that weapon stat scaling is kind of marginal

e.g., damage doesn't matter if you don't hit breakpoints

but i do agree it feels quite bad and they certainly could've done better in that regard

[midnight jolt]

oh boy, so this is considered a myth?

[spice veldt]

neato

[rare arrow]

This

So many people focus on the stats too much

[mighty fractal]

anyone ever experience that brief moment of horror when you look at the purg psyker on your team and see the poxwalkers around him get suppressed briefly

[tulip kettle]

this so much!

[rare arrow]

Take your specific weapon onto the calc and check BPs

[tulip kettle]

i was arguing this, in this chat, the other day

[mighty fractal]

knowing full well that he's running Terrifying Barrage on his purg

[spice veldt]

terrifying

[tulip kettle]

saying DPS doesnt really matter if you dont achieve new breakpoints, and everyone slated me for it

[mighty fractal]

Depends on the weapon imo

That matters a lot more for single-target weapons for obvious reasons

[rare arrow]

Most people just want the answer to “is my weapon good enough”

[mighty fractal]

But if your weapon's goal is to just murder as many small things as possible, that'll matter a lot more than individual bps

[midnight jolt]

Do blast radius matter on void? the blue one will have surge 4

[rare arrow]

Not really

[marble crater]

I read that it doesn't

[spice veldt]

blast radius is pretty inconsequential on void

the epicentre (ball) has a cleave limit anyways, so it only affects the outer blast

[mighty fractal]

The falloff on most explosive weapons is pretty steep

[rare arrow]

That being said the left one is only a tiny bit better than the right

[plucky flax]

I don't agree with damage dump stat here but I am noob.

[mighty fractal]

it mostly matters for the epicenter damage yeah

same logic with the Rumbler

[rare arrow]

I’d keep the right and turn the left one into a surge voidstrike

[mighty fractal]

Trauma cares about radius a lot more

trauma in general is probably the hardest staff to 'get right'

[midnight jolt]

to a point I agree, because is blaze, 50% could be 2 dmg per tick, which is peanus

[spice veldt]

at least for the rumbler, ogryns have rending on their skill tree (assuming that interaction is still there)

[mighty fractal]

especially because both of its main builds want different stat distributions

[mighty fractal]

It is yeah

[spice veldt]

i can not help but just smile when i am reminded of that interaction

[plucky flax]

Yeah judging from my sus scoreboard. My damage and warpfire are pretty closely match.

[rare arrow]

Trauma damage is fairly low

[plucky flax]

And that's with 80% damage staff.

[rare arrow]

On blaze trauma almost all of your damage is coming from soulblaze spreading

[plucky flax]

Uh.. 660 damage per full charge is 'low'?

[rare arrow]

That’s why it’s a fine dump

[plucky flax]

Xd

[rare arrow]

Do you know how much it does at 50%?

[plucky flax]

Yeah sub 600.

[mighty fractal]

https://i.gyazo.com/49136dc21ab65fa4413cad25483a47f3.png

[rare arrow]

It’s right at around a 10-15% loss but your goal is to spread soulblaze for hordes

[marble crater]

606 at 53%, it's a good dump stat

[mighty fractal]

Oh man i am so ready for hadron to brick this

[spice veldt]

should be 600 damage on the dot at 50% damage

[wind spruce]

Someone online link the damage range for trauma pls

[rare arrow]

If the staff kills a target it doesn’t get a stack

[marble crater]

Good luck

[rare arrow]

This

[wind spruce]

So we can discuss this properly

[rare arrow]

Not even a 10% dmg drop

[plucky flax]

Okay and then add up with all the power increase, etc.

[mighty fractal]

https://i.gyazo.com/88100285c781d9a46efd1ad0ee9b8efb.png

[plucky flax]

That 60 damage become way higher than just 60.

[mighty fractal]

Salvageable

[rare arrow]

You’re missing the point

[plucky flax]

That's pretty good Noble.

[rare arrow]

Blaze trauma is not trying to deal 1k damage to big targets

It’s to spread blaze

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I'm pleasantly surprised

thanks grandma

[plucky flax]

Yeah I am very bad with blaze trauma.

[marble crater]

Salvageable, it's perfect

[rare arrow]

If it one shots the target blaze does not spread

[plucky flax]

I don't know what I'm talking about.

[wind spruce]

But it's better if you do both

[plucky flax]

Literally blaze trauma main.

[midnight jolt]

but there is no "both", it is diminishing

[plucky flax]

Bro is cooking for fun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[rare arrow]

I don’t disagree both are fine too. Anything except radius can be the dump for trauma

[wind spruce]

Bro

[rare arrow]

Oh and charge rate I believe

[wind spruce]

Just no

Ok redeemed

[plucky flax]

Imagine playing with sub 50% warp resist, quell speed, and damage trauma.

Cannot be me.

[rare arrow]

But I’d need to go back into psyk to see how big the difference on quell/res are

[mighty fractal]

https://i.gyazo.com/f15b209030eceaa759c930b6f200758c.png Wish this one were my Blaze staff, but at least it'll make for a good Rending Trauma

[wind spruce]

Can someone hover over damage and show me the range

So I don't have to turn my pc on

[marble crater]

More damage would of course be better even on blaze trauma, but you can save yourself a lot of frustration by treating it as a dump stat, imo. At the end of the day you are supposed to have fun

[mighty fractal]

For which stat?

[wind spruce]

Damage

[mighty fractal]

Oh damage range

[wind spruce]

Yes

[mighty fractal]

https://i.gyazo.com/6add916a1e6c15aa03436f99781c63ac.png

[marble crater]

Trauma? 500 to 700

[wind spruce]

Ty

[mighty fractal]

npnp

[midnight jolt]

50 is fine then, if everything else is 80

[mighty fractal]

I get more irked by sub-optimal radius more than anything

[rare arrow]

Really it’s 500-660

[mighty fractal]

because i want that sweet epicenter damage

[plucky flax]

A (minor?) breakpoint here between 66% damage and 78% damage trauma.

#psyker-class message

[rare arrow]

So at 53% it’s 606 someone quoted

[mighty fractal]

honestly if red weapons let us slap a third blessing on our weapons

I'd toss on Rending for the Ultimate Trauma

I would be very happy

[rare arrow]

Please no third blessing

[mighty fractal]

most people would probably take Warp Flurry though for the charge time

[rare arrow]

Games too easy as is and too much RnG for gear

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I don't think it'll happen

[paper loom]

the machine god favoured me

[mighty fractal]

Player power would shoot through the roof

[marble crater]

Third perk then

[rare arrow]

Just let me dump dia and increase my weapons stats

[mighty fractal]

a lot of weapons would become more busted than they already are

[plucky flax]

Lucian what's your psyker tru level?

[midnight jolt]

I can't believe as a new player I found the unicorn, sorry I said this, but I need to repeat it

[rare arrow]

That would be the next order in upgrade, but still pass lol

[wind spruce]

It's 60 damage difference between 50% (600) and 80% (660)

[rare arrow]

318 for psyker

[mighty fractal]

I would be perfectly fine if we got Weaves-style crafting where you use Diamantine to pump your base stats

[wind spruce]

That 60 damage scales with errything

[rare arrow]

Didn’t start until 13

[wind spruce]

And makes the difference for a bunch of 1 and 2 shot breakpoints

[rare arrow]

Zealot main

[wind spruce]

Which DO matter on blaze trauma