#psyker-class

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shy crag
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that, i think I'd notice O_o

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kinda like that skill for veteran that throws an additional grenade sometimes

spice veldt
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not something you'd notice during gameplay if you're not paying attention unless the screen is clear

rapid widget
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Check the 20 second mark.

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That's the moment the crit procs.

spice veldt
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I personally don't cuz my brain is off while playing

rapid widget
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The second ball comes from the first ball.

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During gameplay, you'd almost never notice.

ornate hamlet
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Sigmar bade me turn off mine monitor

potent echo
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I guess it might be hard to tell if everything has the same texture KEKW_ogryn

shy crag
spice veldt
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shush

idle mesa
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Guys which blessings should I use on illisi sword?

lethal lagoon
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True Aim is a talent node in the psyker tree KEKW_ogryn

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5 weakspots = crit. And voidstrike cleave means you can get multiple stacks per shot

storm mauve
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before patch i could activate special melee attack to power up my force sword or rev my chainswords blade with it's bound key (5) one press. now to activate melee special, I have to hold block and press the special key . this doesn't work with the force sword. anyone have an idea what I'm talking about because I can't figure out how to power the force sword after this patch?

rapid widget
shy crag
rapid widget
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With the right blessings and perks, you'll notice that crit when the crusher racing at you suddenly falls and can't get up. beargiggle

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Stack 5 Uncanny with a Maccabian Mk4, turn and crit with the Surgestaff, watch things die. EZ

shy crag
# storm mauve before patch i could activate special melee attack to power up my force sword or...

that's very strange bud, no idea, it should power it up when pressing the key fine, sometimes there's a slight delay when triggering stuff though I've noticed, like when triggering the Zealots "chrous of spiritual fortitude" ability, in my own experience at least, you need to kinda pause for a split second and not do anything and then it triggers. Then naturally of course you end up pressing it too often and ending it early :/ the game is a bit weird like that. I'd maybe suggest re-assigning that key to something else and then switching it back again, see if that helps? or reset key binds to default and then re-assigning it back again.

shy crag
wanton lagoon
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what does foce swod ight click do on illis

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o athe it is actually useful

shy crag
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right click is a block

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your special key powers it up, ideally then you'd use the heavy attack as the illisi does an awesome wide heavy attack

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shy crag
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i forget what the default key for the special is, i've put mine on mouse button 5

rapid widget
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Mine was defaulted to Mouse 5.

wanton lagoon
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does f save you fom dying if you ae aobut to explode

rapid widget
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If you have Vent, yes.

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If you're at 100% and going through the animation of the pop, just vent and you're good.

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There's a whole penance for it and everything.

wanton lagoon
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how many targets surge staff?

potent echo
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2

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Actually 1

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The second one only gets like 30% damage

tame venture
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Gotta remember not to just target the chained target from the 1st attack

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Kinda overkill

wanton lagoon
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what does that mean

potent echo
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No clue KEKW_ogryn

dreamy sinew
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You're better off putting the higher damage shot onto something else and letting the chain finish your first target

potent echo
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But you don't really get to choose your chained target so

dreamy sinew
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Yeah

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I mean they'll usually die you have three other people hungry for kills

potent echo
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If you sweat and QQ swap you should be able to get the kills KEKW_ogryn

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For EP or WC

lethal lagoon
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If two gunners are next to each other, it takes 2 surge shots even if you don't one shot thumbsup_ogryn

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Just gotta pay attention

rare arrow
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dammit finesse

haughty star
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WELL WELL WELL

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LOOK WHAT WE HAVE HERE

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Yay or nay?

shy crag
# potent echo Actually 1

Are you sure about that? I coulda swore I hit like... at least 3 at a time when using the surge staff

crimson holly
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Cloud-Radius ist Importend

rare arrow
haughty star
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oh god is or isn't

rare arrow
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cloud radius is best stat

crimson holly
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So yay If you dont have much

rare arrow
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if damage was 55

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sure

crimson holly
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But If you got enough steal nay

haughty star
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i have 0 purgatus staffs

rare arrow
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but burn or cloud radius? nah

potent echo
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Burn

haughty star
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is terrifying good for it?

potent echo
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It's usable but can be better

haughty star
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i've seen people running it and it's kinda funni

potent echo
tame venture
potent echo
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It's not terrifying it's just base purgatus

tame venture
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Especially since I think the chain staggers

shy crag
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purgatus don't have many great blessings tbh, terrifying barrage is a viable choice.

potent echo
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Horrible advice

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Flurry and nexus all day

shy crag
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flurry?!

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on a purgatus?

potent echo
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Why not, it actually costs you less peril

shy crag
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O_o

potent echo
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Because it charges faster

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Fatshark owo

shy crag
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yeah but how often do you need to charge so fast over and over with a purgatus?

potent echo
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Huh

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I don't think we playing the same game

lethal lagoon
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There's no universe where terrible barrage does anything on purg, it's only supression not stagger, which purg has a ton of already

tame venture
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Nah, run&gun and focused channeling is best on purge no contest

shy crag
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its one charge, burn, all dead, plenty of time to charge for next wave, burn, dead rinse repeat

potent echo
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Yea doesn't sound like the same game to me

shy crag
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evidently

potent echo
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Focused channeling not even needed because you can get hit while spewing flames and it doesn't cancel it

dreamy sinew
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Tbh you don't even need a full charge most of the time it's a lot of smaller ones

potent echo
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Focused channeling only helps when you are charging the fire

lethal lagoon
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I'm not actually sure what focused channeling does cause you can still get staggered out of a charge.

potent echo
lethal lagoon
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It's been a long ass time since I used focused channeling, definitely pre-13, but there was 0 difference.

potent echo
crimson holly
potent echo
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So you don't lose your charge while charging that's it

lethal lagoon
potent echo
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Yea it's not super useful

lethal lagoon
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Maybe it got fixed at some point, but at least when I used it the stagger intrupption was the exact same amount from guns and stuff

potent echo
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Guns?

tame venture
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So really it is just flurry and nexus for purge?

lethal lagoon
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I dunno why I said guns when I meant ranged fire

potent echo
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There's no other blessings that do anything lol

tame venture
potent echo
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Run and gun is beyond meme

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You get extra burn damage while sprinting KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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Anyways, your cast would still get staggered from ranged fire with focused channeling.

potent echo
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Oh, that's kinda lame KEKW_ogryn

lethal lagoon
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I kinda wanna test it again to see if it changed.

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But I don't know what staff I would use it on

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Surge needs nexus and flurry

crimson holly
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With Purgus you use the shout

lethal lagoon
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Purg has emphatic evasion

crimson holly
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If you get Hit while IT..

lethal lagoon
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Void is blessing overfilled already.

crimson holly
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Skillissue?

potent echo
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Yea skill issue

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I NEVER got shot by sniper

lethal lagoon
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I guess a rending trauma with focused channeling is the only viable test subject for focused channeling.

potent echo
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NEVER get eaten my bonbon

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Never even got hit once by a melee attack

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I'm just that good

strong gulch
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This one hurts me. Why melk?? Why?

ornate hamlet
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Sir Dare Milkium

lethal lagoon
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reload spd is kinda decent though?

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Flak is BiS

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Two free blessings thumbsup_ogryn

strong gulch
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Reload can kick rocks. So that's 3/4 bricked for me.

ornate hamlet
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Reload speed and maniac is my pick for psyker

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But maniac and flak is nicer ofc

lethal lagoon
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I like reload spd 😖

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😖

ornate hamlet
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Remember when speedload actually worked for melee AND THEY FUCKING NUKED THAT

strong gulch
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You're allowed to like reload.

ornate hamlet
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I had fun a few days

strong gulch
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Like that reload because I'm not gonna.

lethal lagoon
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😖

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Good bye sweet revolver from melk, into the data abyss you go, never to be used, never to be loved.

strong gulch
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Yi[

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yip

ornate hamlet
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Databases are funny

strong gulch
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It would have been a side grade anyways.

tame venture
ornate hamlet
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You have to store:

  • character name, appearance and personality, as well as cosmetics
  • level and experience
  • loadouts and all that come with them
  • weapon stats, perks, blessings and tiers, their equipped skins and trinkets
  • talent trees
  • achievement stats
  • friend and block lists
  • idk
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Times 300 thousand

lethal lagoon
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My alt psyker keeps getting blessed by the emperor and melk's. I've spent so few resources gearing them up 😖

ornate hamlet
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Databases are fun

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I dicked around a bit with them

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Becoming a full stack dev is the dream of every individual mildly inconvenienced by people doing things differently

strong gulch
lethal lagoon
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(Here's another the emperor gave me and I upgraded just to see what it was like) It of course has surge on it now.

ornate hamlet
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Hmmm transfer peril and surge 😋

lethal lagoon
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I also rolled like 3 surges just so that my alt had a functioning on, and it is now a perk free one 😖

strong gulch
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Started a new BG3 game. Bye bye darktide for awhile probably. Wish I had the brains and the hands to play both at the same time.

This is like mario cart where you can race yourself with a controller in your hands and another with your feet.

lethal lagoon
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Oh yeah, my alt has a better columbus that I also got from melks, beause fuck clown_hadron

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TBF I didn't spend that much rolling a columbus on my main, but still

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Feels like all my time spent gearing my main psyker just got a big middle finger.

strong gulch
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Yee

trim arch
strong gulch
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It did

trim arch
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too many numbers

ornate hamlet
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Christovan Columbus

trim arch
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agreed

lethal lagoon
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My Columbus also puts the natives of Darktide to work. Their job is to put numbers on the scoreboard 😎

trim arch
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LMAO

fiery stratus
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Anyone have tree suggestions for blaze force and revolver? Just assail, scriers gaze?

ornate hamlet
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Depending on the force sword, it gets easy to raise peril for fire shriek

fiery stratus
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Running obscurus

ornate hamlet
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I think scrier's gaze is fine

fiery stratus
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empowered psionics?

lethal lagoon
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Revolver doesn't really need DD, yeah.

ornate hamlet
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I would use disrupt destiny with assail and revolver

lethal lagoon
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Feel free to switch BM to anything, I just had no idea what to do with the extra point lmao

wanton lagoon
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is peril generation even necesary on the illis force sword

strong gulch
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If you are using assail a lot, then yes EP.

lethal lagoon
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Honestly, revolver doesn't even really need scrier's gaze

fiery stratus
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Looks good, I'll give it a shot, its pretty close to what I was putting together

ornate hamlet
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Sometimes I run stun shield and warp siphon so I can get crit aura and assail

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Then I never put the shield down

lethal lagoon
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Revolver can exist indepdent of a build, so really run whatever you want.

ornate hamlet
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As God intended

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I miss old kinetic barrage

fiery stratus
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yeah i just want the revolver to clap a little harder

ornate hamlet
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Many a game before P13 have been carried by the funny versatility

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I enjoyed being the only guy outside of plasma vets that could turn bulwarks into a joke

strong gulch
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I don't personally like SG with the older revolver (zorona) because its reload takes awhile and it only has a handful of rounds to shoot before needing to reload again.

Could be the way I play, but I end up losing too much time for SG to be of great value to me. So I pick creeping flames for the CC, utility, and set it and forget it aoe damage.

trim arch
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will using brain rupture still count towards the not even close penance¿¿

rare mesa
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can trauma staff get all stacks of perfect timing with 1 blast

haughty star
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is shred four as good as it looks on paper?

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like is it just after four swings?

ornate hamlet
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It comes with the caveat of a miss resetting the stacks

haughty star
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not a good sword i know but

ornate hamlet
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But it's very cool to proc mettle and empathic evasion

haughty star
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so as long as it hits something it gains stacks and holds them?

ornate hamlet
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Yes, but there's also a time limit

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I think it lasts like 4 or 5 seconds

haughty star
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so just doing illisi shenadigans i'd be proccing criticals fairly regular?

ornate hamlet
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Yep

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It decays after the timer, after a miss or if you get damaged

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Though I'm not sure if it's the damage or the stagger from the damage

haughty star
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nice

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worth grabbing the blessing anyway i spose

ornate hamlet
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You can still stop attacking, block and push

haughty star
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probably more worth it on a single target force sword like the deimos tho?

ornate hamlet
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I like it on the illisi, but I also use it for more than hordes

haughty star
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i never like to discount the mixed rager or mauler lol the crushers you can kinda run from but a melee should always take in to account those lil bastards imo

ornate hamlet
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Ragers and maulers get staggered by the speci

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Al

haughty star
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rn im going for slaughterer and uncanny iv

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figure that mix up will help with the mix-ins greatly

deft nymph
haughty star
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crit damage a no no on surge force?

rapid widget
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Generally you'd want to just get the 25% damage boost to specific enemy types since that'd be more than enough to one-shot that type of enemy.

lethal lagoon
haughty star
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these are the base for my current surge

haughty star
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does true aim appply to bb or can bb not crit?

long wharf
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it doesn't crit

haughty star
rapid widget
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Melk trynna seduce me

haughty star
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true aim would be so based for a bb build lol

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similar to mine

long wharf
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BB ought to count as a weakspot hit, though

haughty star
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actually fuck yeah what are you waiting for

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get that and put flurry and maniac on it and slap

rapid widget
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Yes, indeed.

haughty star
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idk im told it's not as strong as everything else but purg but it's fun and 0 effort gameplay other than peril management

long wharf
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I don't enjoy using purge

haughty star
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never had a good void or the other one pop up lol imma bout to try a bb mixed with this purgatus

rapid widget
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Purgatus feels so slow gameplay wise.

haughty star
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my monke brain kinda figures it'll be like smite

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just crowd control

rapid widget
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It's fantastic, as a weapon, but god damn it makes you feel like "Alright, press R and Right click"

haughty star
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i mean that's just kinda staves in general from what i've seen

rapid widget
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Void and Surge at least have the option to do a bit of dancey dance with the enemies and move around.

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Purgatus is just holding one spot and blasting in a wide area.

haughty star
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rq what perks are must haves for purgatus

rapid widget
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Good ol' Flak and Maniac.

haughty star
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im going brain burst and EP for the funni elite nonsense

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oh shit i mean talents

urban sandal
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or flak and crit chance

rapid widget
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Flurry and Nexus.

haughty star
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any must have talents?

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do the soulflame talents apply to it?

rapid widget
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Yes.

haughty star
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oooo

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i assume i want all the soulflame ones?

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i'm running shriek to augment bb and make it ezzzz

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just running 4s with a fresh 30 lolol

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he's like oh shit this shit is hard as fuck. I'm like just you wait till we get you some gear with coherency

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he still in the "i should only be able to use my gun" stage that seemingly most veteran beginners go through lol

haughty star
sly comet
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I started using Smite properly. It's not meant to get kills. It's meant to stun lock, and push hoards to the ground. Effortlessly got through a Heresy mission. If it works on Damnation, I'll stick with it.

urban sandal
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smiting hordes of poxwalkers and groaners is a bad habit to get into assuming you aren't being overwhelmed since you're just delaying the inevitable and making it require 2 people to kill them rather than just doing it yourself

sacred crane
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should i snag it

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my only concern is the cleave damage

trim arch
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what is dueling saber good for? i’ve just been using the chain sword lol

sacred crane
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i mean like

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BIG

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plus you look fancy when using it

rapid widget
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Two shot crusher Big

trim arch
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ohh i see

sacred crane
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but still, i wanna know if i should grab it

trim arch
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hmm

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does it have a better rating than what you have now

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that’s usually how i go about upgrading b_giggle

rapid widget
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If it's got better rating and you don't have T4 blessings in your bank that you could swap with, that sword isn't bad.

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It isn't going to win any medals for horde clear, but it's a great carapace killer with its stats.

trim arch
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yessss

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do it

rapid widget
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Do you meet the requirements of "Is it better than what I have"?

rapid widget
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Your current sword is better imo

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I'd just swap out Shred with something like Riposte or Precognition.

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And change Sprint to Carapace.

sacred crane
trim arch
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bunnyyy

sacred crane
cosmic sigil
rapid widget
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It depends on your build.

sacred crane
rapid widget
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If you run a critical build, I prefer Riposte. But that's mostly personal preference.

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Shred is entirely useable as is.

sacred crane
long wharf
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shred is more reliable on bosses

rapid widget
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IF you're using it as a main weapon, Shred will benefit way more than Riposte.

long wharf
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riposte is more reliable when you're dancing in front of the horde

rapid widget
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I play Gun Psyker, so I've got a Columnus for bosses. I use the sword for hordes.

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That's why I'd personally go Riposte.

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If you're using the sword for bosses, keep Shred.

sacred crane
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I just use BB on bosses

long wharf
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don't use dueling swords against the horde, that's not what they're good for

sacred crane
rapid widget
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Well, it's a blended build.

long wharf
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Illisi is the best horde-clearing sword the psyker has

rapid widget
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DS and Assail into the horde.

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Never fails me.

long wharf
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...

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give the Illisi a try

rapid widget
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I've used it.

long wharf
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you won't regret it

rapid widget
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I prefer the one-tap to Crushers with the DS.

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Though, I do use the Illisi on my Surge build.

sacred crane
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So should I keep uncanny + shred and just change the perks or go for changing shred and sprint

rapid widget
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I've got like...5 active builds on my Psyker 😩

rapid widget
urban sandal
rapid widget
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As for Shred, again, it's mostly down to how you use it. If you're JUST using BB on bosses, Shred won't yield much benefit for you.

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If you're whipping out your sword to deal with hordes, I'd personally swap it out for Riposte.

sacred crane
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BB for me is just more reliable on bosses, especially for plague ogryns

magic kayak
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worth? its from melk...

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perks arent great

trim arch
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big number

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worth it

magic kayak
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thats what I was thinking too

trim arch
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LOL

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bigger number=just better

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doesn’t matter what it is

urban sandal
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You need the 2nd blessing to be good otherwise it's not great

magic kayak
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yeah a bit of a gamble really but what else should I expect!

trim arch
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I LOVE GAMVLINGGG

cosmic sigil
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because claws are good against maniacs so the 15 is not lost

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you can change infested to flak

magic kayak
magic kayak
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this is my current purgatus so its definitely better

trim arch
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guys what level should i start doing heresy runs?? i’m level 22 rn

magic kayak
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depends on how good you are at the mechanics. Can totally do heresy at 22 if you have mechanics down

trim arch
magic kayak
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lol just run one and see what happens I guess

trim arch
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i suppose i suppose

magic kayak
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If you find yourself able to position yourself in your team, mostly out of line of sight, and can slide dodge and handle hordes on your own etc thats a pretty good start

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If you run around a corner and see 3 crushers, what would you do? what.. would.. you.. do..?

trim arch
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RUN THE FUCK AWAY?!?!?

umbral helm
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generally boils down to "do you have spatial awareness" and "can you press spacebar and a direction at the same time"

trim arch
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or just not be in a situation where i’d see 3 crushers anyway

magic kayak
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haha yeah basically...

trim arch
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and i listen for the backstabs sound queue hehehe

magic kayak
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you're gonna do great

umbral helm
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there's lots of little tips and tricks you pick up from just playing but that's the basic idea. more enemy density you start adding blocking and shoving into the mix if you're in melee, and once you get into the higher difficulties and modifiers like shock troop your target priority ends up getting tested

trim arch
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i mean like i feel like i have all of that down i just get caught up in killing stuff

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i’m using fire staff with a dueling saber dome shield and those shard things

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i love how much damage they do

magic kayak
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its a solid setup. Once I got uncanny strike on my ds that made a big difference in crushers etc

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wont know until you try

umbral helm
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yeah, there's more leeway on malice and heresy, but you get into certain maelstroms, aurics especially, and it becomes "never stop moving"

trim arch
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ohh i see

magic kayak
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yep, stick to regular heresy... the harder stuff is just going to be more comfortable to run once you're 30, have full build, and orange gear. Sure, it can be done without all that but it's obviously not ideal

trim arch
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yeahh that makes sense

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only wanted to move up difficulty cuz i’m not getting a lot of exp anymore on the other one </33

umbral helm
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the problem in those cases is you'll generally be able to hold off the tide in those missions, but it just doesn't stop, it slows down a bit sometimes but the director will just keep amping up the longer you stay in one spot, so you have to push forward

trim arch
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I get that, no point in staying hunkered down since they’ll always keep coming

magic kayak
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more heretics for the grinder!

trim arch
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YIPPIEEE

umbral helm
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honestly, good missions to test that concept on without going into aurics are ones that have a spot where the point is to keep moving. sycorax when you're running through the tunnels or the carnival when you've gotta place the explosives to get through the beginning. enemies will just keep flooding out, and some people will stand at the spawn and just keep swinging, but you gotta keep moving. kill and move

near wyvern
trim arch
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guys i wanna do a lfg but im scared

umbral helm
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though, admittedly with how inconsistent clambering can be sometimes it was fair I just assumed you couldn't

spice veldt
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you can hold space to reliably clamber

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and holding space also works if you need to clamber multiple times consecutively

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e.g., in one section of consignment yard leading to the room that looks like a shower room with the medicae

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you can hold space and clamber over two sets of railings for a minor shortcut

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or when you're doing the final power cell in pmatrix and need to drop down to hit the button

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you can hold space when falling near the railing and clamber onto it to avoid fall damage

umbral helm
ornate hamlet
umbral helm
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yeah, it generally tells me how the rest of the mission is gonna go from that point

torpid girder
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How good are the duelling swords at hordeclearing?

mighty olive
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I don't prefer their horde clear, is okay

trim arch
torpid girder
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hmmm wut melee would u recommend using then with a voidstrike/smite/shield build?

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Illisi force sword?

paper harbor
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I would use Deimos

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For single target killing

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At melee range

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Smite can do crowd control

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Even voidstrike can do both

torpid girder
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nooo 😭

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Is this one salvageable? Or no

trim arch
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hi my fellow scizos

paper harbor
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@torpid girder you know, headshotting elite or special just charge attack do poke animation and they die

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They do lot damage

paper harbor
trim arch
sacred crane
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found this in my inventory, is this good besides the perks?

trim arch
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i’d say

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that’s god me thinks

rapid widget
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Those are the preferred blessings for the Mk7.

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Stats are pretty well distributed. Ammo is gonna be a bit of an issue on a Psyker unless you've got a Vet with his talent.

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But otherwise, it's pretty solid.

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Change your perks and it'll be a hard one to upgrade.

torpid girder
rapid widget
plucky flax
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Go maniac for mutie stabby.

deep pine
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was having problems brain bursting myself so I got a peril guage mod to better help me visialize my peril and ending up just tweaking my entire UI lol

queen fog
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Nice glad the ui mod’s been making ur experience a lil better thumbsup_ogryn

deep pine
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yeah what an amazing couple of mods

brisk grove
#

ooh that's clean

torpid girder
#

is this a decent build to run with deimos and voidstrike?

fickle arch
#

How good is a build fully depends on your own playstyle. I have roughly similar build for deimos and voidstrike and it's allright. For me it's nowhere near as good as my nerd raging melee build tho.

lethal lagoon
torpid girder
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Wait enfeeble doesn't work on right click?!

lethal lagoon
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Nopers

torpid girder
#

what should i drop to get true aim?

lethal lagoon
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the little extra node at the bottem left

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So enfeeble and that little guy

torpid girder
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ohhh okay

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okay ty! i'll try this build out

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what curios should i be running?

queen fog
#

that lil node is toughness damage reduction so is no biggie

lethal lagoon
#

Perilous combustion is also probably better than warp expenditure.

torpid girder
#

Isn't soulblaze only good if i invest alot into it?

queen fog
#

best of luck with build i got a flame sprinkler going on rn for me

lethal lagoon
#

PC isn't the great on voidstrike, but voidstrike get's very little from warp expen.

torpid girder
#

hmmm

lethal lagoon
#

Depends on the map difficulty, team comp, weapon choice etc.

torpid girder
#

iAlso, what curios should I run?

lethal lagoon
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But warp expen, especially on voidstrike, does almost nothing

torpid girder
#

i'm running 2 toughness and 1 hp rn

lethal lagoon
#

I like that setup personally thumbsup_ogryn

torpid girder
#

okayy i'll try this build out

lethal lagoon
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Some people like 1 hp 1 tough 1 stamina

queen fog
#

im more a 2 health and 1 wound kinda guy on my psyker but nothin wrong with doubling down on the thing psyker can get back in a flash

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toughness regen goes crazy

strong gulch
#

Curious are rather depended on your play style, what tends to get you the most, how you move, etc.

lethal lagoon
#

I gave up on poxbursters and use spidey sense for them cause I just can't hear them 50% of the time, so HP curios aren't that useful to me anymore.

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Been running 1 stam, 2 toughness recently, esp since my alt has a decent +3 stam

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Like I don't really enjoy using it, but at the same time, I can't just keep losing most of my HP to silent poxbursters that meld with me before exploding and then playing peeka-boo until the next healing statin.

strong gulch
#

A zoomie psyker may want stamina. A psyker that eats sniper shots should have a +21 health curio with sniper resist. A psyker that opts to trade toughness to be more aggressive will want more toughness. Someone who is more prone to chip damage will benefit from more health.

Curio preference also may change over time as your skills change.

lethal lagoon
#

Having enough sniper DR to tank more than 2 sniper shots is nice

strong gulch
#

yeah

lethal lagoon
#

But most of the time if I get hit by a sniper, other things chip me, so it's of questionable usefulness.

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Which is the point I guess, everything depends on your personal playstyle and experiences when it comes to curios thumbsup_ogryn

strong gulch
#

But also, because you can't just chain buy curios, you get what you get. So it takes time to acquire amazing ones.

lethal lagoon
#

Melk tapping his fingers while staring at your hard-earned melk-bucks
"You can."

paper loom
#

I have a nice columnus does using BB with the 15% chance of BB a enemy work well with automatic guns?

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Or is assail just better?

lethal lagoon
#

It's generally a waste of a point, but it's kinda of funny to use.

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Oh, BB vs assail on gunker?

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Assail no question.

paper loom
#

Yea

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Ahh shame assail seems like main weapon

lethal lagoon
#

And then use either an mk4 dueling sword, dagger. or deimos to handle crushers/mutants on gunker.

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Nah, Columbus is definitely the star of any Assail Gunker build

paper loom
#

I have a rky nice deimos too

lethal lagoon
#

Assail is just for ammo effiency.

paper loom
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Ah ok il stick with assail, one day il get a good score on scoreboard using this build I'm sure...

lethal lagoon
#

I think I got my first non-melee maelstrom/scam map 1mil on columbus gunker thumbsup_ogryn

paper loom
#

I usually come top or 2nd dmg loads of elite kills etc but really low team score even tho I have high coherent score and always help ppl up etc

lethal lagoon
#

Team score is based on plasteel

paper loom
#

Don't know why I score low on team

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Oh rly?

lethal lagoon
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Yeppers

paper loom
#

That's stupid

lethal lagoon
#

It's heavily weighted to plasteel pickers

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Nah

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Plasteel is bae

paper loom
#

Yea I always grab it too

lethal lagoon
#

At the end of the day, the only stat that matters after you beat a game is plasteel

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Everything else fades into the data abyss

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Only plasteel is eternal

paper loom
#

But I was stressing about what caused mu low score lol

lethal lagoon
#

(until Hadron steals it at least)

paper loom
#

Hopefully we can trade diamantium or whatever its called for plasteel at some point

lethal lagoon
#

Diamantium is fairly balanced atm from what I can tell. You can gain roughly what you use if you spend all your plasteel. I've had the same amount of diamentuem since I started playing again at patch 13.

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Of course if I start stacking plasteel diamantium goes up, but it goes back to the same spot afterwards

paper loom
#

I always have like 5k of it

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I'm addicted to Hadron bricking items tho

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah, I just mean it's not going up or down atm, so they seem to have it figured out.

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I just wonder how the 100% weapons are gonna function or whatever

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Cause then we'll have a diamontuem problem probably.

spice veldt
#

if you refine/rebless a bunch compared to consecrating, you'll use up more diamantine compared plasteel ratio-wise

untold niche
#

atlas you run voidstrike right?

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for curio perk, if you could only pick 2

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what would u run

lethal lagoon
#

TBF I don't use voidstrike much

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It's just boring to me.

untold niche
#

i see, then what about for staff psyker

lethal lagoon
#

Surge or Blaze Trauma usually

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Uhhh

untold niche
#

if you could only pick 2 curio perk

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since we can onyl change 2

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and im too assed to farm the third

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sorry should clarify

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if you could only choose 6 out of 9 curio perk*

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arco what about you too

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6/9

lethal lagoon
#

At least 1 sniper and 1 gunner DR. 3 Toughness Gen. And then maybe 1 CDR?

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I'm not 100 on the toughness regen, but I've been playing in cohernecy more than usual

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So I've been leaving it on

untold niche
#

i see

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only 1 cdr?

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seems kinda

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pointless
at that point i would prob run 1 sniper and 2 gunner

lethal lagoon
#

If it was seven it'd be 2 CDRs

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If it was eight it'd be 2 gunners

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If it was nine it'd be 2 snipers.

untold niche
#

no flat toughness?

lethal lagoon
#

CDR isn't multiplicative like Toughness Regen, so 3 doesn't make too much sense from what I understand.

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I used to run 5% health and 5% toughness but it was really just cause big numbers make me happy

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It doesn't seem to do much

untold niche
#

as in, whjy not flat toughness + toughness gen

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im thinking about running 3 flat + 3 gen
instead of the current 3 gen + 3 cdr

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the actual curio im running
+3 stam, 16 tough, 16 tough

torpid girder
#

okay wow i have no idea how to play psyker lol

lethal lagoon
#

3 flat 3 gen is worth a truy

untold niche
#

your 15 effective goes down to 12 effective down time

lethal lagoon
#

6 seconds, you sure? I thought it stacked the other way

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and got worse as you got more

untold niche
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i can show u

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hold on

torpid girder
#

I swear, no matter how I build my psyker i feel like i don't contribute

lethal lagoon
#

No worries mate

untold niche
torpid girder
#

I dunno if it's the weapons or builds i'm using or if it's just i don't know how to play psyker specifically

lethal lagoon
#

You might have also not found the right build for you

untold niche
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but should be 6

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i tested it before naked

lethal lagoon
#

What is it naked?

untold niche
#

zzzz

lethal lagoon
#

With the talents though

untold niche
#

1 sec

lethal lagoon
#

just no curios

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You can just tell me, I'll believe you haha

untold niche
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i need to test it

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26 seconds naked (w/ talents, no curios)

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so like 3 seconds

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with 1 tier 4

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its 25 seconds

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2 tier 4 its 24, but quickly goes to 23
3 tier 4 23, quickly goes to 22

untold niche
#

but i like slightly mroe survivability, thats why i want to know opinions on 3x flat and 3x gen

lethal lagoon
#

Depends on build, but for flaming shriek spam, probably.

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I mean 3x flat is basically another toughness curio

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It makes up for using a stamina in that sense.

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It depends on how important gunner and sniper res are to you and your general platstyle

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I don't think there's really a bad choice, all things considered, other than like pox hound or mutant damage or something like that.

untold niche
#

eh its just an increase of 10 toughness

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124->133

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not even 10

#

toughness curio what is hgihest %?

lethal lagoon
#

Oh hmm, might be worth sneaking in another toughness node on the three haha

untold niche
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i seen is 16, i remember 17 but loadout config show 20

lethal lagoon
#

17

untold niche
#

then ok

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i will run 3 gen 3 cdr lol

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should have just checked with loadout config

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besides im too used to the timing with 3cdr

lethal lagoon
#

Now flat toughness on Ogryn.... whatthefuck_heresy Thats just funny.

untold niche
#

ogryn genuinely OP

lethal lagoon
#

I haven't played Ogryn in a while, I should go feel immortality for a bit.

untold niche
#

opther classes (havent tried vet though) are like 10/20 80/90 imo

lethal lagoon
#

I think he was referring to the scoreboard.

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Which is largely gameplay honestly

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If you are pubbing

untold niche
#

have you tried white psyker?

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tell me thats gameplay problem

torpid girder
lethal lagoon
#

I've gotton first on smite only meme runs

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So white doesn't matter

untold niche
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ya but thats with smite

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try using underleveled white voidstrike staff

lethal lagoon
#

I could probably manage it with BB with a few tries.

untold niche
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bro i suffered for 10 levels

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13 i think? void avail level 17

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someone blocked me

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;-;

lethal lagoon
#

I just mean somethings that feel obvious now aren't obvious and take time to learn

proper osprey
#

I’m torn between 2 3 stamina and 1 toughness or 2 toughness and 1 3 stam

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Really think I should just build blocks efficacy

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I have 30% from deflector and 20% on the perk

strong gulch
#

Be aware that you need +3 stamina curio base rating to be higher than 75. The 75 ones are bugged and liars.

torpid girder
#

i'm running this build with a voidstrike and a deimos

proper osprey
lethal lagoon
torpid girder
#

it's not very good i think which would probably explain why my weapons feel useless

untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

Voidstrike is probably one of the biggest gear dependent ones.

untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

TBF, all the staves are kind of dookie without great rolls

torpid girder
#

I'd literally charge up my voidstrike and by the time it's charged the plasma vet's shot the enemy and they're dead lol

untold niche
#

atl;as

torpid girder
#

That or i actually shoot it off and it does 60% a gunner's health

untold niche
#

see i told u

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build problem

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SEE

lethal lagoon
#

(But it could be both 🥹 )

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But yeah probably build problem

proper osprey
#

Ep with smite is all I need to see bruh

torpid girder
untold niche
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EP is empowered psyonics, the bottom (purple) middle tree

strong gulch
#

Voidstrike is rather aim dependent. If you are trying to dodge and shoot balls, they miss.

But if you actually have team mates who are good at taking out targets, you're going to not kill as much stuff with it.

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Stuff meaing the high value targets

untold niche
proper osprey
#

If I’m running ep I’m using bb

strong gulch
#

That being said, there is plenty that void strike can handle. It can take down most things.

untold niche
#

but yes uh, i would suggest you try either the left or right purple tree instead of empowered psyonics

proper osprey
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Bb w/ purg

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Ep does nothing In damage if your using smite

torpid girder
#

I'm kinda considering trying out surge staff

strong gulch
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That build is a smite build because of how invested into smite it is. Left or right keystones with bump void's damage.

proper osprey
untold niche
#

also with void, its important that you take note of your thresholds, super important

torpid girder
#

and this is the voidstrike i'm using
it's not good but it's literally the best i've gotten so far lol

proper osprey
#

You can turn off your brain while using it

untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

I don't think he had a choice

torpid girder
#

i don't ahve nexus 😭 😭

untold niche
#

GRIND FOR IT BEECH

strong gulch
#

Heads up that crit damage is doo doo in this game.

lethal lagoon
#

Yeah crit damage perk doesn't do anything

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Those stat rolls are pretty POG though

untold niche
#

DUDE IF YOU GRINDED FOR NEXUS THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SERVICEABLE WEAPOOONNNNNN

torpid girder
untold niche
#

but yes

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now you see

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its not your fault

strong gulch
untold niche
#

its not that you lack skills

proper osprey
untold niche
#

its just weapon issue

proper osprey
#

I’m gonna make you explode

torpid girder
#

LOOK i've invested like 5mil dockets and 10k plasteel into this psyker already okay I just used up all my weapon luck on my other classes 😭

untold niche
#

something that 300k dockets and 14 gold weapons worth can easily fix

untold niche
#

wait

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5 mil?

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what you spend it on?

torpid girder
#

Alot of different weapons

untold niche
#

you dum dum

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slap urself

torpid girder
#

Surge staves/voidstrikes/duelling blades

proper osprey
proper osprey
torpid girder
#

To be fair i've also consecrated 20 power swords on my vet and didn't get a single one with power cycler

untold niche
#

psyker is prob a class you should go tall and not wide.

torpid girder
#

not even pc4 just none of them had any rank of pc

untold niche
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PC has only 3 or 4

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to my knowledge

torpid girder
#

ohhh

proper osprey
#

Blud doesn’t use purgatus with brain burst

untold niche
#

anyway yes

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ask more questions here

proper osprey
torpid girder
#

I barely play psyker at all 💔

untold niche
#

WHAT THE ACTUAL

proper osprey
untold niche
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"i don't play psyker at all" "5 mil dockets and 10k plasteel"

proper osprey
#

Fr

torpid girder
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I get those resources on my other characters then i switch to psyker and gamble

strong gulch
#

I min max everything, so I'm always broke lol.

untold niche
#

okeh lesson learnt

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don't gamble before asking qns

torpid girder
#

I can play just fine on ogryn and vet but my zealot and psyker both have mediocre builds

proper osprey
#

When does block efficiency get diminishing returns?

untold niche
proper osprey
#

50%?

untold niche
#

you can test it with loadout config

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mod

proper osprey
untold niche
#

ok i'll help you this time

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but tell me how to test

torpid girder
#

Oh wutevs i'm gonna gamble on more surge staves

lethal lagoon
#

Run this with Surge staff.
A surge staff must have 25% Flak, Warp Nexus and Flurry thumbsup_ogryn
Spam Surge like crazy, use flaming shriek on any large group, use smite only if it's an emergency.

untold niche
#

and build it properly

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talent tree wise

torpid girder
#

I actually really dislike the voidstrike

untold niche
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then don't use void

torpid girder
#

i'll gamble on more surge staves

untold niche
#

i only used void because i was told void could 1 tap the crusher

proper osprey
untold niche
#

nvm im just going to try a rager string

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and then record

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the whole thing

proper osprey
lethal lagoon
#

Notice how my surge build is so orthodox and boring no one said a word about it, that means it's perfect for use thumbsup_ogryn

torpid girder
#

Honestly i wanted to work on my zealot before fixing my psyker but zealot chat is mostly just

untold niche
#

and lazorr

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those two

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you can trust

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the finna guy very nice too

torpid girder
#

I'll keep that in mind for when i work on my zealottt

proper osprey
torpid girder
#

I got so invested in the conversation when i saw sink cheese

strong gulch
#

I don't like void strike. I only use it when I want something different. Then I remember that I don't like playing it.

lethal lagoon
#

Sums up my feelings on the matter. And I spent so much getting Surge blessing, even making another psyker for melk rolls

torpid girder
#

I never liked the void strike because it always felt unsatisfying for me but that's probably because i've never had a good one

lethal lagoon
#

^ That was my thought process

untold niche
strong gulch
#

true

lethal lagoon
#

Bowling strikes is nice, but PC does that too 🤷‍♂️

untold niche
#

like have you ever panicked as you had to solo 6 crushers close to you?

lethal lagoon
#

No I just go brr with mk4

untold niche
#

:v

torpid girder
#

aaand i'm out of dockets again and didn't get a single good surge :)

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ig i'll switch characters again

strong gulch
#

Not with trauma

untold niche
#

honestly

#

don't keep switching when stuff don't work out

lethal lagoon
untold niche
#

just save more and

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gamble again

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else you would feel

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very lost

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because you are just wasting your mone ywithout visible progress

torpid girder
lethal lagoon
#

Link it

torpid girder
#

one sec let me switch back to my psyker

strong gulch
#

Gear doesn't have to be perfect to be good enough.

torpid girder
#

it says in the guide that warp resist is the 2nd most important stat so I kinda just brushed it off

untold niche
#

@lethal lagoon does warp resistance affect peril gen on block?

strong gulch
#

I say that as a min maxing wreck.

torpid girder
#

otherwise the stats are good

proper osprey
lethal lagoon
#

I used a staff like that for a while, was honestly fine.

torpid girder
untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

I actually liked the peril build up cause I could use Flaming shriek whenever I wanted to for hordes and shit

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(you need 85% peril to use flaming shriek at maximum damage)

proper osprey
torpid girder
#

hadron is 100% going to brick this

torpid girder
#

well it has warp flurry

untold niche
#

since tier 4s are 12%

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
#

If you keep an eye on your peril, you'll be ok. It won't be the comfiest, but it's manageable.

torpid girder
#

I am actually horrible at managing peril so i'll have to learn how to properly do that

untold niche
torpid girder
#

I blew up like 4 times the last mission i went in.. lol

proper osprey
#

Oh yes do that

torpid girder
#

i also keep having an annoying habit where i keep trying to quell peril with the special attack button because of plasma gun muscle memory

lethal lagoon
#

You can try the build I linked. Focus on elite kills, use flaming shriek at 85% and it will kill all hordes and ranged mobs.

strong gulch
#

If that warp resist was on trauma, you'd be in a tough spot.

Invest into warp siphon and get inner tranquility.

proper osprey
#

Wish the plasma had infinite ammo

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@lethal lagoon stroke me until completion

torpid girder
#

Actually just realized I had this in my inven? Is this workable too?

lethal lagoon
#

Whenever I run a surge build like that, I'm spending 90-95% of the time using surge and spamming flaming shriek, very little melee and smite.

strong gulch
#

yeah that's better

proper osprey
#

I mean technically it does have infinite ammo if you’re running ammo aura

torpid girder
#

crit to something else and barrage to nexus?

lethal lagoon
#

Crit to flak yes

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Maniacs is considered a meta option, so nice one thumbsup_ogryn

torpid girder
#

i only have t3 nexus so i'll apply a t4 when i get one

rapid widget
#

Maniacs is just good because it applies to a lot of enemy types.

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Flamers, Trappers, Rager, Mutants.

torpid girder
lethal lagoon
#

I prefer MK 4 cause generally speaking there's very little melee.

strong gulch
#

flak.

Always take flak on staves. The exception is void strike, but even then it has its uses.

lethal lagoon
#

So just poking mutants and the occassional rager.

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Illy for horde clear is a good option too, bbut most of your horde clear will be flaming shriek

torpid girder
#

i don't have a good mk4 yet so

lethal lagoon
#

There are also some maps flaming shriek is just not going to be enough horde clear on your own, esp if your team is struggling, like hab dreyko

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So illy is nice for that

strong gulch
#

this is true

lethal lagoon
#

Smite is also good to fall back on whenever you are panicking/stuck

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Or just overwhelmed

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For smite it's Smite till 85%, shriek, keep holding smite till 99ish%

torpid girder
#

is this good enough for now?

lethal lagoon
strong gulch
#

DS4 isn't great for horde clear, but it can manage them.

lethal lagoon
#

It's mostly there as a back-up, at least the way I use Surge

proper osprey
#

@untold niche how’s it going?

strong gulch
#

yup

proper osprey
#

Even then surge kills just 2 enemies

untold niche
proper osprey
#

I’d pick the mk4 dc or deimos

torpid girder
#

Okay, i'll learn the DS4 moveset and then go into a damn to test it out

untold niche
untold niche
proper osprey
#

Or illis if you want amazing horde control

untold niche
#

thats all you need to know

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poke into poke

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then i heard from others, spam push attack for horde clear

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@lethal lagoon kind of insane just with talents the cd of VS is already 4 seconds shaved

strong gulch
#

Surge staff picks off specials and smaller elites. That's, its main thing. It handles scattered shooters well too.

Something to keep in mind with it is that the LMB is decent and has lots of suppression.

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If you're used to faster movement speed, force swords feel SO slow. Make it difficult for me to go back to them.

torpid girder
#

Okay, time to try out this build

untold niche
torpid girder
#

oh my god everything is dying

proper osprey
#

Wonder If disturb destiny stacks with bb cause bb is weak spot damage

visual estuary
#

Alright, so, need some advice.

This is the weapon I have to work with. I finally got surge for it. Should I keep Transfer Peril?

#

I know that the perks should change on this build.

torpid girder
#

EVERYTHING IS DYING

radiant frigate
#

petition to make diamantine "unlock" a weapon so you can customize every bit of it with no locked stats

rapid widget
#

Petition to have a resource exchange where you can trade your Diamantine for Plasteel, instead 😩

radiant frigate
#

you would rather keep rolling for more weapons with half their stats locked in?

#

mad

untold niche
rocky raven
#

you really dont want surge without nexus to proc it more consistently.

alternatively since it has transfer4, slap flurry4 on to compensate for chargetime and use this one as a spam cast

proper osprey
untold niche
#

is under 60 quell speed runnable @severe folio bossman

torpid girder
#

This build is WAYYYY better than the ones i've tried before

untold niche
#

build issue

torpid girder
#

this is way more fun

radiant frigate
#

what's the build

untold niche
#

psyker very build dependent

torpid girder
#

if it wasn't 2 am i'd take this immediately into special hm twins and see if I could do it

#

so ig i'll try that tmrw

torpid girder
untold niche
#

im glad it worked out for you d00d

#

welcome to the club

torpid girder
#

lifesaversss

radiant frigate
#

i wonder if i should try warp charges sometime

#

probably not though

tacit stump
#

warp charges can be good without using your skill beside in certain situations

lethal lagoon
#

This time.

torpid girder
#

it's really interesting how the main source of hordeclear is from the shriek

radiant frigate
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having two toughness nodes so clearly within range but not taken is making me feel some things

plucky flax
lethal lagoon
radiant frigate
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i am no longer sure if wildfire even does anything anymore, or if it was placebo

lethal lagoon
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Can't even call it mine cause it's so fucking plain

gritty jewel
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this game hates me

lethal lagoon
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It's THE othordox build

radiant frigate
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one at the top, one under warp rider

torpid girder
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i'm just glad i finally have a build where i can not go down and actually kill everything now

plucky flax
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Wildfire is needed for only smite.

tacit stump
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i go with assail and shield

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feels good

strong gulch
radiant frigate
torpid girder
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My eyes like visibly widened when I saw the surge basically 1shot most ranged specials and then cara just getting their eyes poked out with the mk4 in seconds

plucky flax
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No but I just really like wildfire.

torpid girder
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mutants too which is really fun

strong gulch
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My metaphors are notoriously bad tho.

lethal lagoon
plucky flax
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It's 30% of my warpfire damage. kapp

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Yes! Wall bang fire op

torpid girder
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i'll log off now but tysm for helping me with my psykerrr

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wondering if i should drop something to add in wildfire ot the build

vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
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Wildfire huge damage.

lethal lagoon
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Don't drop something, drop everything whatthefuck_heresy

vestal fulcrum
torpid girder
lethal lagoon
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This is a meme build where you spam EP smite thumbsup_ogryn

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And some surge for EP charges

vestal fulcrum
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It’s also the main issue why it’s so hard to evaluate this skill

plucky flax
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1.3k kills with 800k dmg. While my scoreboard with trauma has 500k at 1.2k kills.

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My trauma is gimped. Sitgryn

lethal lagoon
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Huh, my Oven and Normal are pretty close

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That's new

upper sun
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what does warp resistance actually do? I have two staves with warp resist at 78% and at 66% they both cost me 4% peril per attack

untold niche
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@plucky flax @lethal lagoon @vestal fulcrum mans very first a5 monster mael

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dude after the first 3 monsters right after another my fingers were shaking

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there was a fourth.

strong gulch
upper sun
plucky flax
vestal fulcrum
plucky flax
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It's to contain my power.

untold niche
lethal lagoon
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Monster maels are so goated.

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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first 5 minutes of the game my fingers were shaking yes

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only managed to catchup later on

lethal lagoon
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It's to send false data to fatshark to get them to buff Blaze Trauma

untold niche
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i probably asked this 5 times before, any link to what each of the stims do?

vestal fulcrum
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Well, you did your part, so that’s excellent

plucky flax
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On zealot combat axe with 700 kills I do 500k damage. Yet 1.2k kills with trauma net me 540k whatthefuck_heresy

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Seems legit.

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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theres one called celerity

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whats concentration?

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theres a yellow one and blue one

lethal lagoon
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Celerity is CDR I think

untold niche
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and combat one what doe sit do

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increase damage? or reload speed or what

lethal lagoon
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Combat goes brr

untold niche
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fuk u

upper sun
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yeah gives ability and blitz cooldown

untold niche
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i want actual stats

untold niche
lethal lagoon
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I like taking the useless ones and just stabbing random people in elevators

strong gulch
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I am unable to remember the names of the stims.

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Can't.

vestal fulcrum
strong gulch
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Incapable.

upper sun
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concentration is nice

lethal lagoon
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The stims enter and dissappear from my memory each game thumbsup_ogryn

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Very efficent.

untold niche
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what is power again, damage + stagger+ one more thing

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cleave damage retention?

lethal lagoon
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cweave

rocky raven
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impact/damage/cleave

untold niche
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cleave as in

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maximum number of targets you can cleave

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or the cleave damage

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BE SPECIFIC PEEPOl

lethal lagoon
wind spruce
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@lethal lagoon i was thinking about this all day

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its multiplicative in the way way for the regen delay

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and its additive for the regen amount

untold niche
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Med Stimm
Restores one health segment, or 25% of max health, whichever one is larger, of health and corruption damage.
Med stimms can’t be used on a target, on one self or other players, if the target has no health or corruption damage to restore.

Combat Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increase in Power 25% (Damage + Stagger Strength).
Rending 25% (Armour Penetration).
Reduction of Peril Generation -33% (Generate less Peril when using Psyker’s Warp Abilities).

Celerity Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increase in Reload Speed 15%.
Reduction in Stamina Costs -25% for Pushing, Blocking, -50% for sprinting.
Increases Attack Speed by 20%.
Increase the following by 25%:
Charge up time of Plasma guns, Psyker’s Brain Burst and Psyker Staves. The speed of which the Psyker’s Smite propagates between enemies. Speed of which the Psyker can throw Shards using Assail. Speed of which the Psyker Quells their Peril.

Concentration Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increases your Combat Ability Cooldown Regeneration speed by +300% (Four times as fast as usual).

untold niche
wind spruce
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meaning 30% is most bang for buck

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90% is least

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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yeah but the absolute values of the increases don't decrease that much

wind spruce
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the last 30% curio perk only decreases regen delay by 0.19 seconds

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compared to the first at 0.3 seconds

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its a big difference.

untold niche
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0.11 seconds isn't that much

lethal lagoon
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I think I may have misunderstand and that it was multiplicative with talents

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Thanks for show me that

wind spruce
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nw

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i tested it with essence harvest and it doesnt increase that, but i have heard that it increases the vet over time toughness regen talent

lethal lagoon
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I switched all my regen the last match I played, so I guess it was fate

wind spruce
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whatever thats called

lethal lagoon
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🥹

wind spruce
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off or on haha

lethal lagoon
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off

untold niche
wind spruce
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@untold niche im not arguing for or against it

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just doing maths

lethal lagoon
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The shame is greater than a .11 decrease

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Then again I'm wrong like all the time

wind spruce
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^

lethal lagoon
untold niche
wind spruce
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well it is a big difference bro, 0.11 out of 0.3

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thats, what? 36%?

radiant frigate
#

wha

untold niche
# wind spruce thats, what? 36%?

relatively yes, but thats why i said to look at the absolute value
are you going to tell me you can even feel a 0.11 second difference of delay?

lethal lagoon
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I'm the princess and the toughness regen

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Also yeah, he was just talking about the numbers

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Honestly probably still worth if you are in cohernecy alot

rocky raven
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just to confirm, you're referring to the toughness regen delay correct

wind spruce
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Toughness Regen % effects three things

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  1. Time until you start regening toughness
lethal lagoon
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Wait a minute those second numbers are weird. Why does it decrease .30?

wind spruce
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  1. Amount of toughness restored per second
lethal lagoon
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Is the mod wrong?

wind spruce
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  1. Amount of toughness restored per kill
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It could be

untold niche
lethal lagoon
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1.5 to .77 is also more than 90%

radiant frigate
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you mean, per kill

wind spruce
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yeah kill

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According to the above screenshot (may be wrong, i will endeavour to find out)

untold niche
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thanks for testing