#psyker-class
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not something you'd notice during gameplay if you're not paying attention unless the screen is clear
I personally don't cuz my brain is off while playing
The second ball comes from the first ball.
During gameplay, you'd almost never notice.
Strongest surge voidstrike user
Sigmar bade me turn off mine monitor
I guess it might be hard to tell if everything has the same texture 
Yeah ok after 4 re-watches and pauses, I think i finally do notice it alright, cheers bud.
shush
Guys which blessings should I use on illisi sword?
True Aim is a talent node in the psyker tree 
5 weakspots = crit. And voidstrike cleave means you can get multiple stacks per shot
before patch i could activate special melee attack to power up my force sword or rev my chainswords blade with it's bound key (5) one press. now to activate melee special, I have to hold block and press the special key . this doesn't work with the force sword. anyone have an idea what I'm talking about because I can't figure out how to power the force sword after this patch?
So, usually, because the crit procs when you impact on an enemy, you won't see that second ball. It immediately spawns from the first ball and then splits into a V cone. But since it triggered on an impact, there's nowhere for that cone to go except into the face of whatever you just hit, so it instantly deletes itself as a hit within the single frame it spawns.
oh ive no problem generating crits, it was just i never could really notice when it actually did crit, when using the surge blessing.
With the right blessings and perks, you'll notice that crit when the crusher racing at you suddenly falls and can't get up. 
Stack 5 Uncanny with a Maccabian Mk4, turn and crit with the Surgestaff, watch things die. EZ
that's very strange bud, no idea, it should power it up when pressing the key fine, sometimes there's a slight delay when triggering stuff though I've noticed, like when triggering the Zealots "chrous of spiritual fortitude" ability, in my own experience at least, you need to kinda pause for a split second and not do anything and then it triggers. Then naturally of course you end up pressing it too often and ending it early :/ the game is a bit weird like that. I'd maybe suggest re-assigning that key to something else and then switching it back again, see if that helps? or reset key binds to default and then re-assigning it back again.
in theory the second ball should cleave through though right? if there are targets behind it in line of sight?
right click is a block
your special key powers it up, ideally then you'd use the heavy attack as the illisi does an awesome wide heavy attack
I'm not actually sure how the balls play into cleaving through targets. I generally only use it for special killing, so I've never paid much attention to whether or not there's collateral.
i forget what the default key for the special is, i've put mine on mouse button 5
Mine was defaulted to Mouse 5.
does f save you fom dying if you ae aobut to explode
If you have Vent, yes.
If you're at 100% and going through the animation of the pop, just vent and you're good.
There's a whole penance for it and everything.
how many targets surge staff?
Gotta remember not to just target the chained target from the 1st attack
Kinda overkill
what does that mean
No clue 
You're better off putting the higher damage shot onto something else and letting the chain finish your first target
But you don't really get to choose your chained target so
If two gunners are next to each other, it takes 2 surge shots even if you don't one shot 
Just gotta pay attention
dammit finesse
Are you sure about that? I coulda swore I hit like... at least 3 at a time when using the surge staff
Cloud-Radius ist Importend
nayh
oh god is or isn't
cloud radius is best stat
So yay If you dont have much
It's max 2
But If you got enough steal nay
i have 0 purgatus staffs
but burn or cloud radius? nah
Burn
is terrifying good for it?
It's usable but can be better
i've seen people running it and it's kinda funni
No never
But if it's 3 gunners, it may be worth hitting the one that isn't dead, or chained from in the first shot
It's not terrifying it's just base purgatus
Especially since I think the chain staggers
purgatus don't have many great blessings tbh, terrifying barrage is a viable choice.
Why not, it actually costs you less peril
O_o
yeah but how often do you need to charge so fast over and over with a purgatus?
There's no universe where terrible barrage does anything on purg, it's only supression not stagger, which purg has a ton of already
Nah, run&gun and focused channeling is best on purge no contest
its one charge, burn, all dead, plenty of time to charge for next wave, burn, dead rinse repeat
Yea doesn't sound like the same game to me
evidently
Focused channeling not even needed because you can get hit while spewing flames and it doesn't cancel it
Tbh you don't even need a full charge most of the time it's a lot of smaller ones
Focused channeling only helps when you are charging the fire
I'm not actually sure what focused channeling does cause you can still get staggered out of a charge.
Suboptimal for sure, I've seen people do this and they don't end up doing anything
It's been a long ass time since I used focused channeling, definitely pre-13, but there was 0 difference.
"Channeling" refers to charging the staff in their terminology
No. Warpnexus is far better
So you don't lose your charge while charging that's it
Yep, and I'm saying it made no difference
Yea it's not super useful
Maybe it got fixed at some point, but at least when I used it the stagger intrupption was the exact same amount from guns and stuff
Guns?
So really it is just flurry and nexus for purge?
I dunno why I said guns when I meant ranged fire
There's no other blessings that do anything lol
Columnus
Anyways, your cast would still get staggered from ranged fire with focused channeling.
Oh, that's kinda lame 
I kinda wanna test it again to see if it changed.
But I don't know what staff I would use it on
Surge needs nexus and flurry
With Purgus you use the shout
Purg has emphatic evasion
If you get Hit while IT..
Void is blessing overfilled already.
Skillissue?
I guess a rending trauma with focused channeling is the only viable test subject for focused channeling.
NEVER get eaten my bonbon
Never even got hit once by a melee attack
I'm just that good
This one hurts me. Why melk?? Why?
Sir Dare Milkium
Reload can kick rocks. So that's 3/4 bricked for me.
Remember when speedload actually worked for melee AND THEY FUCKING NUKED THAT
You're allowed to like reload.
I had fun a few days
Like that reload because I'm not gonna.
😖
Good bye sweet revolver from melk, into the data abyss you go, never to be used, never to be loved.
Databases are funny
It would have been a side grade anyways.
I like reload for shotguns too ngl...
You have to store:
- character name, appearance and personality, as well as cosmetics
- level and experience
- loadouts and all that come with them
- weapon stats, perks, blessings and tiers, their equipped skins and trinkets
- talent trees
- achievement stats
- friend and block lists
- idk
Times 300 thousand
My alt psyker keeps getting blessed by the emperor and melk's. I've spent so few resources gearing them up 😖
Databases are fun
I dicked around a bit with them
Becoming a full stack dev is the dream of every individual mildly inconvenienced by people doing things differently
Emp has a favorite, and it's not your favorite.
My alt psyker is also favored by emps. wtf
(Here's another the emperor gave me and I upgraded just to see what it was like) It of course has surge on it now.
Hmmm transfer peril and surge 😋
I also rolled like 3 surges just so that my alt had a functioning on, and it is now a perk free one 😖
Started a new BG3 game. Bye bye darktide for awhile probably. Wish I had the brains and the hands to play both at the same time.
This is like mario cart where you can race yourself with a controller in your hands and another with your feet.
Oh yeah, my alt has a better columbus that I also got from melks, beause fuck 
TBF I didn't spend that much rolling a columbus on my main, but still
Feels like all my time spent gearing my main psyker just got a big middle finger.
Yee

It did
too many numbers
Christovan Columbus
agreed
My Columbus also puts the natives of Darktide to work. Their job is to put numbers on the scoreboard 😎
LMAO
Anyone have tree suggestions for blaze force and revolver? Just assail, scriers gaze?
Depending on the force sword, it gets easy to raise peril for fire shriek
Running obscurus
I think scrier's gaze is fine
empowered psionics?
Revolver doesn't really need DD, yeah.
I would use disrupt destiny with assail and revolver
Feel free to switch BM to anything, I just had no idea what to do with the extra point lmao
is peril generation even necesary on the illis force sword
If you are using assail a lot, then yes EP.
Honestly, revolver doesn't even really need scrier's gaze
Looks good, I'll give it a shot, its pretty close to what I was putting together
Sometimes I run stun shield and warp siphon so I can get crit aura and assail
Then I never put the shield down
Revolver can exist indepdent of a build, so really run whatever you want.
yeah i just want the revolver to clap a little harder
Many a game before P13 have been carried by the funny versatility
I enjoyed being the only guy outside of plasma vets that could turn bulwarks into a joke
I don't personally like SG with the older revolver (zorona) because its reload takes awhile and it only has a handful of rounds to shoot before needing to reload again.
Could be the way I play, but I end up losing too much time for SG to be of great value to me. So I pick creeping flames for the CC, utility, and set it and forget it aoe damage.
will using brain rupture still count towards the not even close penance¿¿
can trauma staff get all stacks of perfect timing with 1 blast
It comes with the caveat of a miss resetting the stacks
not a good sword i know but
But it's very cool to proc mettle and empathic evasion
so as long as it hits something it gains stacks and holds them?
so just doing illisi shenadigans i'd be proccing criticals fairly regular?
Yep
It decays after the timer, after a miss or if you get damaged
Though I'm not sure if it's the damage or the stagger from the damage
You can still stop attacking, block and push
probably more worth it on a single target force sword like the deimos tho?
I like it on the illisi, but I also use it for more than hordes
i never like to discount the mixed rager or mauler lol the crushers you can kinda run from but a melee should always take in to account those lil bastards imo
rn im going for slaughterer and uncanny iv
figure that mix up will help with the mix-ins greatly
crit damage a no no on surge force?
Generally you'd want to just get the 25% damage boost to specific enemy types since that'd be more than enough to one-shot that type of enemy.
Thsoe stats should be solid 
I got as a backup to my current surge
these are the base for my current surge
does true aim appply to bb or can bb not crit?
it doesn't crit

BB ought to count as a weakspot hit, though
actually fuck yeah what are you waiting for
get that and put flurry and maniac on it and slap
Yes, indeed.
idk im told it's not as strong as everything else but purg but it's fun and 0 effort gameplay other than peril management
I don't enjoy using purge
never had a good void or the other one pop up lol imma bout to try a bb mixed with this purgatus
Purgatus feels so slow gameplay wise.
It's fantastic, as a weapon, but god damn it makes you feel like "Alright, press R and Right click"
Void and Surge at least have the option to do a bit of dancey dance with the enemies and move around.
Purgatus is just holding one spot and blasting in a wide area.
rq what perks are must haves for purgatus
Good ol' Flak and Maniac.
or flak and crit chance
Flurry and Nexus.
Yes.
oooo
i assume i want all the soulflame ones?
i'm running shriek to augment bb and make it ezzzz
just running 4s with a fresh 30 lolol
he's like oh shit this shit is hard as fuck. I'm like just you wait till we get you some gear with coherency
he still in the "i should only be able to use my gun" stage that seemingly most veteran beginners go through lol
okay one more stupid question does purgatus count as ranged? lol asking to see if true aim procs on it
I started using Smite properly. It's not meant to get kills. It's meant to stun lock, and push hoards to the ground. Effortlessly got through a Heresy mission. If it works on Damnation, I'll stick with it.
smiting hordes of poxwalkers and groaners is a bad habit to get into assuming you aren't being overwhelmed since you're just delaying the inevitable and making it require 2 people to kill them rather than just doing it yourself
what is dueling saber good for? i’ve just been using the chain sword lol
very damn good heavy attacks
i mean like
BIG
plus you look fancy when using it
Two shot crusher Big
ohh i see
but still, i wanna know if i should grab it
hmm
does it have a better rating than what you have now
that’s usually how i go about upgrading 
If it's got better rating and you don't have T4 blessings in your bank that you could swap with, that sword isn't bad.
It isn't going to win any medals for horde clear, but it's a great carapace killer with its stats.
so should i grab it?
Do you meet the requirements of "Is it better than what I have"?
you tell me
Your current sword is better imo
I'd just swap out Shred with something like Riposte or Precognition.
And change Sprint to Carapace.

bunnyyy
which is better of the two
i wouln't change the blessings
It depends on your build.

If you run a critical build, I prefer Riposte. But that's mostly personal preference.
Shred is entirely useable as is.
my build is bonkers, im running:
BB
shield
seers presense
EP
shred is more reliable on bosses
IF you're using it as a main weapon, Shred will benefit way more than Riposte.
riposte is more reliable when you're dancing in front of the horde
I play Gun Psyker, so I've got a Columnus for bosses. I use the sword for hordes.
That's why I'd personally go Riposte.
If you're using the sword for bosses, keep Shred.
I just use BB on bosses
don't use dueling swords against the horde, that's not what they're good for

Well, it's a blended build.
Illisi is the best horde-clearing sword the psyker has
I've used it.
you won't regret it
I prefer the one-tap to Crushers with the DS.
Though, I do use the Illisi on my Surge build.
So should I keep uncanny + shred and just change the perks or go for changing shred and sprint
I've got like...5 active builds on my Psyker 😩
No matter what, change the Sprint. 100% of the time.
I have 1 because I'm stingy with plasteel 
As for Shred, again, it's mostly down to how you use it. If you're JUST using BB on bosses, Shred won't yield much benefit for you.
If you're whipping out your sword to deal with hordes, I'd personally swap it out for Riposte.
BB for me is just more reliable on bosses, especially for plague ogryns
thats what I was thinking too
You need the 2nd blessing to be good otherwise it's not great
yeah a bit of a gamble really but what else should I expect!
I LOVE GAMVLINGGG
i would take the risk
because claws are good against maniacs so the 15 is not lost
you can change infested to flak
thats true
this is my other option. Only have enough for one
this is my current purgatus so its definitely better
guys what level should i start doing heresy runs?? i’m level 22 rn
depends on how good you are at the mechanics. Can totally do heresy at 22 if you have mechanics down
how would i estaminet my mechanics though LMAO
lol just run one and see what happens I guess
i suppose i suppose
If you find yourself able to position yourself in your team, mostly out of line of sight, and can slide dodge and handle hordes on your own etc thats a pretty good start
If you run around a corner and see 3 crushers, what would you do? what.. would.. you.. do..?
RUN THE FUCK AWAY?!?!?
generally boils down to "do you have spatial awareness" and "can you press spacebar and a direction at the same time"
or just not be in a situation where i’d see 3 crushers anyway
oh yeah that’s fine then okay
haha yeah basically...
and i listen for the backstabs sound queue hehehe
you're gonna do great
there's lots of little tips and tricks you pick up from just playing but that's the basic idea. more enemy density you start adding blocking and shoving into the mix if you're in melee, and once you get into the higher difficulties and modifiers like shock troop your target priority ends up getting tested
i mean like i feel like i have all of that down i just get caught up in killing stuff
i’m using fire staff with a dueling saber dome shield and those shard things
i love how much damage they do
its a solid setup. Once I got uncanny strike on my ds that made a big difference in crushers etc
wont know until you try
yeah, there's more leeway on malice and heresy, but you get into certain maelstroms, aurics especially, and it becomes "never stop moving"
ohh i see
yep, stick to regular heresy... the harder stuff is just going to be more comfortable to run once you're 30, have full build, and orange gear. Sure, it can be done without all that but it's obviously not ideal
yeahh that makes sense
only wanted to move up difficulty cuz i’m not getting a lot of exp anymore on the other one </33
the problem in those cases is you'll generally be able to hold off the tide in those missions, but it just doesn't stop, it slows down a bit sometimes but the director will just keep amping up the longer you stay in one spot, so you have to push forward
I get that, no point in staying hunkered down since they’ll always keep coming
more heretics for the grinder!
YIPPIEEE
honestly, good missions to test that concept on without going into aurics are ones that have a spot where the point is to keep moving. sycorax when you're running through the tunnels or the carnival when you've gotta place the explosives to get through the beginning. enemies will just keep flooding out, and some people will stand at the spawn and just keep swinging, but you gotta keep moving. kill and move
It's funny how even at Auric people don't realise you can just run in, jump over the railing onto the table and set the second charge right away
I was one of those people for a while until I looked at the railing and decided to jump over and was like "huh, you can"
though, admittedly with how inconsistent clambering can be sometimes it was fair I just assumed you couldn't
you can hold space to reliably clamber
and holding space also works if you need to clamber multiple times consecutively
e.g., in one section of consignment yard leading to the room that looks like a shower room with the medicae
you can hold space and clamber over two sets of railings for a minor shortcut
or when you're doing the final power cell in pmatrix and need to drop down to hit the button
you can hold space when falling near the railing and clamber onto it to avoid fall damage

People seem to get stuck a lot killing the horde coming at the closed gate near that railing
yeah, it generally tells me how the rest of the mission is gonna go from that point
How good are the duelling swords at hordeclearing?
I don't prefer their horde clear, is okay
i’m pretty sure dueling saber is meant for special enemy clear and not horde but i still like to use it cuz it’s fast
hmmm wut melee would u recommend using then with a voidstrike/smite/shield build?
Illisi force sword?
I would use Deimos
For single target killing
At melee range
Smite can do crowd control
Even voidstrike can do both
hi my fellow scizos
@torpid girder you know, headshotting elite or special just charge attack do poke animation and they die
They do lot damage
I like this one.

found this in my inventory, is this good besides the perks?
so you get 100% crit chance while you ads for like a second or two then fire at a weak spot for 90%
i’d say
that’s god me thinks
Those are the preferred blessings for the Mk7.
Stats are pretty well distributed. Ammo is gonna be a bit of an issue on a Psyker unless you've got a Vet with his talent.
But otherwise, it's pretty solid.
Change your perks and it'll be a hard one to upgrade.
Is it salvageable? the only good thing on it is uncanny
Wut? It's got Uncanny, and innate +20% flak. You can replace Shred if you want, but it's good on the Deimos as well. And you can upgrade the Carapace bonus. It'll annhilate most heavy targets.
Go maniac for mutie stabby.
was having problems brain bursting myself so I got a peril guage mod to better help me visialize my peril and ending up just tweaking my entire UI lol
Nice glad the ui mod’s been making ur experience a lil better 
yeah what an amazing couple of mods
ooh that's clean
is this a decent build to run with deimos and voidstrike?
How good is a build fully depends on your own playstyle. I have roughly similar build for deimos and voidstrike and it's allright. For me it's nowhere near as good as my nerd raging melee build tho.
Enfeeble doesn't work on right click, so grab that extra point, and the one after the coherency buff, and get true aim 
Wait enfeeble doesn't work on right click?!
Nopers
what should i drop to get true aim?
that lil node is toughness damage reduction so is no biggie
Perilous combustion is also probably better than warp expenditure.
is only 5%
Isn't soulblaze only good if i invest alot into it?
best of luck with build i got a flame sprinkler going on rn for me
PC isn't the great on voidstrike, but voidstrike get's very little from warp expen.
hmmm
Not really, PC will generaly add 10% to your overall damage by itself
Depends on the map difficulty, team comp, weapon choice etc.
iAlso, what curios should I run?
But warp expen, especially on voidstrike, does almost nothing
i'm running 2 toughness and 1 hp rn
I like that setup personally 
okayy i'll try this build out
Some people like 1 hp 1 tough 1 stamina
im more a 2 health and 1 wound kinda guy on my psyker but nothin wrong with doubling down on the thing psyker can get back in a flash
toughness regen goes crazy
Curious are rather depended on your play style, what tends to get you the most, how you move, etc.
I gave up on poxbursters and use spidey sense for them cause I just can't hear them 50% of the time, so HP curios aren't that useful to me anymore.
Been running 1 stam, 2 toughness recently, esp since my alt has a decent +3 stam
Like I don't really enjoy using it, but at the same time, I can't just keep losing most of my HP to silent poxbursters that meld with me before exploding and then playing peeka-boo until the next healing statin.
A zoomie psyker may want stamina. A psyker that eats sniper shots should have a +21 health curio with sniper resist. A psyker that opts to trade toughness to be more aggressive will want more toughness. Someone who is more prone to chip damage will benefit from more health.
Curio preference also may change over time as your skills change.
Having enough sniper DR to tank more than 2 sniper shots is nice
yeah
But most of the time if I get hit by a sniper, other things chip me, so it's of questionable usefulness.
Which is the point I guess, everything depends on your personal playstyle and experiences when it comes to curios 
But also, because you can't just chain buy curios, you get what you get. So it takes time to acquire amazing ones.
Melk tapping his fingers while staring at your hard-earned melk-bucks
"You can."
I have a nice columnus does using BB with the 15% chance of BB a enemy work well with automatic guns?
Or is assail just better?
It's generally a waste of a point, but it's kinda of funny to use.
Oh, BB vs assail on gunker?
Assail no question.
And then use either an mk4 dueling sword, dagger. or deimos to handle crushers/mutants on gunker.
Nah, Columbus is definitely the star of any Assail Gunker build
I have a rky nice deimos too
Assail is just for ammo effiency.
Ah ok il stick with assail, one day il get a good score on scoreboard using this build I'm sure...
I think I got my first non-melee maelstrom/scam map 1mil on columbus gunker 
I usually come top or 2nd dmg loads of elite kills etc but really low team score even tho I have high coherent score and always help ppl up etc
Team score is based on plasteel
That's stupid
Yea I always grab it too
At the end of the day, the only stat that matters after you beat a game is plasteel
Everything else fades into the data abyss
Only plasteel is eternal
But I was stressing about what caused mu low score lol
(until Hadron steals it at least)
Hopefully we can trade diamantium or whatever its called for plasteel at some point
Diamantium is fairly balanced atm from what I can tell. You can gain roughly what you use if you spend all your plasteel. I've had the same amount of diamentuem since I started playing again at patch 13.
Of course if I start stacking plasteel diamantium goes up, but it goes back to the same spot afterwards
Yeah, I just mean it's not going up or down atm, so they seem to have it figured out.
I just wonder how the 100% weapons are gonna function or whatever
Cause then we'll have a diamontuem problem probably.
if you refine/rebless a bunch compared to consecrating, you'll use up more diamantine compared plasteel ratio-wise
atlas you run voidstrike right?
for curio perk, if you could only pick 2
what would u run
i see, then what about for staff psyker
if you could only pick 2 curio perk
since we can onyl change 2
and im too assed to farm the third
sorry should clarify
if you could only choose 6 out of 9 curio perk*
arco what about you too
6/9
At least 1 sniper and 1 gunner DR. 3 Toughness Gen. And then maybe 1 CDR?
I'm not 100 on the toughness regen, but I've been playing in cohernecy more than usual
So I've been leaving it on
i see
only 1 cdr?
seems kinda
pointless
at that point i would prob run 1 sniper and 2 gunner
If it was seven it'd be 2 CDRs
If it was eight it'd be 2 gunners
If it was nine it'd be 2 snipers.
no flat toughness?
CDR isn't multiplicative like Toughness Regen, so 3 doesn't make too much sense from what I understand.
I used to run 5% health and 5% toughness but it was really just cause big numbers make me happy
It doesn't seem to do much
as in, whjy not flat toughness + toughness gen
im thinking about running 3 flat + 3 gen
instead of the current 3 gen + 3 cdr
the actual curio im running
+3 stam, 16 tough, 16 tough
okay wow i have no idea how to play psyker lol
I've gone away from CDR, I've been thinking of trying it again.
3 flat 3 gen is worth a truy
3x cdr, 6 seconds off 30 seconds venting shriek cooldown,
and if you run double bubble
your 15 effective goes down to 12 effective down time
6 seconds, you sure? I thought it stacked the other way
and got worse as you got more
I swear, no matter how I build my psyker i feel like i don't contribute
Psyker has a high learning curve 🤷♂️
No worries mate
imo not really
i feel actually psyker has HUGE build dependence
I dunno if it's the weapons or builds i'm using or if it's just i don't know how to play psyker specifically
You might have also not found the right build for you
its 7 but i assume its because of my cdr aura?
but should be 6
i tested it before naked
What is it naked?
zzzz
With the talents though
1 sec
i need to test it
26 seconds naked (w/ talents, no curios)
so like 3 seconds
with 1 tier 4
its 25 seconds
2 tier 4 its 24, but quickly goes to 23
3 tier 4 23, quickly goes to 22
what build are you running
@lethal lagoon imo 4 seconds is worth it, but thats just for me.
but i like slightly mroe survivability, thats why i want to know opinions on 3x flat and 3x gen
Depends on build, but for flaming shriek spam, probably.
I mean 3x flat is basically another toughness curio
It makes up for using a stamina in that sense.
It depends on how important gunner and sniper res are to you and your general platstyle
I don't think there's really a bad choice, all things considered, other than like pox hound or mutant damage or something like that.
eh its just an increase of 10 toughness
124->133
not even 10
toughness curio what is hgihest %?
Oh hmm, might be worth sneaking in another toughness node on the three haha
i seen is 16, i remember 17 but loadout config show 20
17
then ok
i will run 3 gen 3 cdr lol
should have just checked with loadout config
besides im too used to the timing with 3cdr
Now flat toughness on Ogryn....
Thats just funny.
ogryn genuinely OP
I haven't played Ogryn in a while, I should go feel immortality for a bit.
i would say its prob 30% gameplay 70% build
opther classes (havent tried vet though) are like 10/20 80/90 imo
I think he was referring to the scoreboard.
Which is largely gameplay honestly
If you are pubbing
one seccc i'll post it after this mission
I could probably manage it with BB with a few tries.
bro i suffered for 10 levels
13 i think? void avail level 17
someone blocked me
;-;
I just mean somethings that feel obvious now aren't obvious and take time to learn
I’m torn between 2 3 stamina and 1 toughness or 2 toughness and 1 3 stam
Really think I should just build blocks efficacy
I have 30% from deflector and 20% on the perk
Be aware that you need +3 stamina curio base rating to be higher than 75. The 75 ones are bugged and liars.
i'm running this build with a voidstrike and a deimos
They are ive unfortunately maxed one out
What's your voidstrike look like?
it's not very good i think which would probably explain why my weapons feel useless
ok i would suggest not going EP
but even if you are, don't take the middle node.
Voidstrike is probably one of the biggest gear dependent ones.
yes void very weapon dependent, but low gear floor compared to trauma lol
TBF, all the staves are kind of dookie without great rolls
I'd literally charge up my voidstrike and by the time it's charged the plasma vet's shot the enemy and they're dead lol
atl;as
That or i actually shoot it off and it does 60% a gunner's health
Ep with smite is all I need to see bruh
i am struggling to follow along with this
@torpid girder refer to this guide
orange is basically majority agreed but debatable based on situation.
PC should prob be orange
EP is empowered psyonics, the bottom (purple) middle tree
Voidstrike is rather aim dependent. If you are trying to dodge and shoot balls, they miss.
But if you actually have team mates who are good at taking out targets, you're going to not kill as much stuff with it.
Stuff meaing the high value targets
you say as if its hard to shoot at the head common
No, i reguarly become the top rager cleaner
If I’m running ep I’m using bb
That being said, there is plenty that void strike can handle. It can take down most things.
but yes uh, i would suggest you try either the left or right purple tree instead of empowered psyonics
I'm kinda considering trying out surge staff
That build is a smite build because of how invested into smite it is. Left or right keystones with bump void's damage.
Best staff
also with void, its important that you take note of your thresholds, super important
and this is the voidstrike i'm using
it's not good but it's literally the best i've gotten so far lol
You can turn off your brain while using it
noooo why you take surge with warp flurry
I don't think he had a choice
i don't ahve nexus 😭 😭
GRIND FOR IT BEECH
Heads up that crit damage is doo doo in this game.

DUDE IF YOU GRINDED FOR NEXUS THIS WOULD HAVE BEEN A SERVICEABLE WEAPOOONNNNNN
it was either that or sprint eff
RIP
its not that you lack skills
its just weapon issue
I’m gonna make you explode
LOOK i've invested like 5mil dockets and 10k plasteel into this psyker already okay I just used up all my weapon luck on my other classes 😭
something that 300k dockets and 14 gold weapons worth can easily fix
what the fuck
wait
5 mil?
what you spend it on?
Alot of different weapons
Surge staves/voidstrikes/duelling blades

Ain’t no way
To be fair i've also consecrated 20 power swords on my vet and didn't get a single one with power cycler
psyker is prob a class you should go tall and not wide.
not even pc4 just none of them had any rank of pc
ohhh

I barely play psyker at all 💔
WHAT THE ACTUAL
We know
"i don't play psyker at all" "5 mil dockets and 10k plasteel"
Fr
I get those resources on my other characters then i switch to psyker and gamble
I min max everything, so I'm always broke lol.
Sounds like me and Zealot 
I can play just fine on ogryn and vet but my zealot and psyker both have mediocre builds
When does block efficiency get diminishing returns?
no clue but i doubt anyone runs that other than for preference
50%?
I’m on console
Oh wutevs i'm gonna gamble on more surge staves
Run this with Surge staff.
A surge staff must have 25% Flak, Warp Nexus and Flurry 
Spam Surge like crazy, use flaming shriek on any large group, use smite only if it's an emergency.
honestly if you like how void looks on youtoob you could gamble on void
and build it properly
talent tree wise
I actually really dislike the voidstrike
then don't use void
i'll gamble on more surge staves
i only used void because i was told void could 1 tap the crusher
Usually my set up for curios are 4 ability regen, 12 stam regen, and either block efficienty or sprint
sorry, i meant uh, what do you want me to block against
nvm im just going to try a rager string
and then record
the whole thing
Try Deimos w/ deflector and 20 block
Notice how my surge build is so orthodox and boring no one said a word about it, that means it's perfect for use 
Honestly i wanted to work on my zealot before fixing my psyker but zealot chat is mostly just
tag josho
and lazorr
those two
you can trust
the finna guy very nice too
I'll keep that in mind for when i work on my zealottt
Make sure you have kinetic deflection and try a dh or ragers
I got so invested in the conversation when i saw sink cheese
I don't like void strike. I only use it when I want something different. Then I remember that I don't like playing it.
Sums up my feelings on the matter. And I spent so much getting Surge blessing, even making another psyker for melk rolls
I never liked the void strike because it always felt unsatisfying for me but that's probably because i've never had a good one
^ That was my thought process
i like voidstrike because it gives me very high highs
true
Bowling strikes is nice, but PC does that too 🤷♂️
like have you ever panicked as you had to solo 6 crushers close to you?
No I just go brr with mk4
:v
aaand i'm out of dockets again and didn't get a single good surge :)
ig i'll switch characters again
Not with trauma
Are you sure? Crit bonus is the dump.
just save more and
gamble again
else you would feel
very lost
because you are just wasting your mone ywithout visible progress
The only staff I got with a rating above 330 had warp resist as its dump
Link it
one sec let me switch back to my psyker
Gear doesn't have to be perfect to be good enough.
it says in the guide that warp resist is the 2nd most important stat so I kinda just brushed it off
@lethal lagoon does warp resistance affect peril gen on block?
I say that as a min maxing wreck.
otherwise the stats are good
It’s tied to block efficiency
I used a staff like that for a while, was honestly fine.
i have a bunch of godrolls on my other characters so my standards for weapons are rlly skewed 😭
ok so the weapon stat for your testing don't matter correct?
I actually liked the peril build up cause I could use Flaming shriek whenever I wanted to for hordes and shit
(you need 85% peril to use flaming shriek at maximum damage)
Hmm just put 80 in everything but mobility
hadron is 100% going to brick this
well it has warp flurry
shouldn't matter if we are testing block anyway
ok, block efficiency
i test with: 12%/24%/36%?
since tier 4s are 12%
Barrage to nexus, weak spot to flak, honestly, perfectly usable 
If you keep an eye on your peril, you'll be ok. It won't be the comfiest, but it's manageable.
Just do 12 for now
I am actually horrible at managing peril so i'll have to learn how to properly do that
yes i mean in ascending order, i test 12, then 24, then 36
I blew up like 4 times the last mission i went in.. lol
Oh yes do that
i also keep having an annoying habit where i keep trying to quell peril with the special attack button because of plasma gun muscle memory
You can try the build I linked. Focus on elite kills, use flaming shriek at 85% and it will kill all hordes and ranged mobs.
If that warp resist was on trauma, you'd be in a tough spot.
Invest into warp siphon and get inner tranquility.
Actually just realized I had this in my inven? Is this workable too?
Whenever I run a surge build like that, I'm spending 90-95% of the time using surge and spamming flaming shriek, very little melee and smite.
Yes that's better
yeah that's better
I mean technically it does have infinite ammo if you’re running ammo aura
crit to something else and barrage to nexus?
i only have t3 nexus so i'll apply a t4 when i get one
Maniacs is just good because it applies to a lot of enemy types.
Flamers, Trappers, Rager, Mutants.
oh wait what melee should i be running with this build?
I prefer MK 4 cause generally speaking there's very little melee.
flak.
Always take flak on staves. The exception is void strike, but even then it has its uses.
So just poking mutants and the occassional rager.
Illy for horde clear is a good option too, bbut most of your horde clear will be flaming shriek
i don't have a good mk4 yet so
There are also some maps flaming shriek is just not going to be enough horde clear on your own, esp if your team is struggling, like hab dreyko
So illy is nice for that
this is true
Smite is also good to fall back on whenever you are panicking/stuck
Or just overwhelmed
For smite it's Smite till 85%, shriek, keep holding smite till 99ish%
is this good enough for now?

DS4 isn't great for horde clear, but it can manage them.
It's mostly there as a back-up, at least the way I use Surge
@untold niche how’s it going?
yup
Even then surge kills just 2 enemies
video compressing
I’d pick the mk4 dc or deimos
Okay, i'll learn the DS4 moveset and then go into a damn to test it out
personally i would just run illisi if you want a horde clear melee
heavy stab into special
Or illis if you want amazing horde control
thats all you need to know
poke into poke
then i heard from others, spam push attack for horde clear
@lethal lagoon kind of insane just with talents the cd of VS is already 4 seconds shaved
Surge staff picks off specials and smaller elites. That's, its main thing. It handles scattered shooters well too.
Something to keep in mind with it is that the LMB is decent and has lots of suppression.
If you're used to faster movement speed, force swords feel SO slow. Make it difficult for me to go back to them.
Okay, time to try out this build
https://streamable.com/cv8xpm
@proper osprey wait five minutes, it should still be processing
oh my god everything is dying
Wonder If disturb destiny stacks with bb cause bb is weak spot damage
Alright, so, need some advice.
This is the weapon I have to work with. I finally got surge for it. Should I keep Transfer Peril?
I know that the perks should change on this build.
EVERYTHING IS DYING
petition to make diamantine "unlock" a weapon so you can customize every bit of it with no locked stats
Petition to have a resource exchange where you can trade your Diamantine for Plasteel, instead 😩
you would rather keep rolling for more weapons with half their stats locked in?
mad
do you have warp nexus 3or 4?
if u havent checked, the thing is up
you really dont want surge without nexus to proc it more consistently.
alternatively since it has transfer4, slap flurry4 on to compensate for chargetime and use this one as a spam cast
I saw looks like it’s best to run just one 12 precent block
is under 60 quell speed runnable @severe folio bossman
This build is WAYYYY better than the ones i've tried before
told u
build issue

this is way more fun
what's the build
psyker very build dependent
if it wasn't 2 am i'd take this immediately into special hm twins and see if I could do it
so ig i'll try that tmrw
This with a mk4 and a surge staff
lifesaversss
warp charges can be good without using your skill beside in certain situations
#psyker-class message
Can try something a little less orthodox

This time.
it's really interesting how the main source of hordeclear is from the shriek
having two toughness nodes so clearly within range but not taken is making me feel some things
No wildfife 
It's my super othordox build 
i am no longer sure if wildfire even does anything anymore, or if it was placebo
Can't even call it mine cause it's so fucking plain
this game hates me
It's THE othordox build
one at the top, one under warp rider
i'm just glad i finally have a build where i can not go down and actually kill everything now
It's what use. It's like using butter when cooking. It just makes sense.
oddly specific?
My eyes like visibly widened when I saw the surge basically 1shot most ranged specials and then cara just getting their eyes poked out with the mk4 in seconds
No but I just really like wildfire.
mutants too which is really fun
My metaphors are notoriously bad tho.
Wildfire can spread to minions not fully spawned yet on the Magistratti Assination boss 
i'll log off now but tysm for helping me with my psykerrr
wondering if i should drop something to add in wildfire ot the build
It does make “In Fire Reborn” skill somewhat more consistent to get benefits from
Wildfire huge damage.
i'm not concerned about that
Don't drop something, drop everything 
Then, what, how much damage does it effectively grant to you?
i'll be trying this out tmrww
yes?
That’s not quick maths 
It’s also the main issue why it’s so hard to evaluate this skill
1.3k kills with 800k dmg. While my scoreboard with trauma has 500k at 1.2k kills.
My trauma is gimped. 
what does warp resistance actually do? I have two staves with warp resist at 78% and at 66% they both cost me 4% peril per attack
@plucky flax @lethal lagoon @vestal fulcrum mans very first a5 monster mael
dude after the first 3 monsters right after another my fingers were shaking
there was a fourth.
If you don't use KD or grow to depend on it, you could drop it to take wildfire.
It is really niche tho. I don't recommend it on this build. If you do fire trauma, wildfire is recommended.
charged hits are both 28% i dont see a difference
My scoreboard is discriminate against my blaze trauma.
Which melee/ranged were you playing?
It's to contain my power.
voidstrike illisi
Monster maels are so goated.

first 5 minutes of the game my fingers were shaking yes
only managed to catchup later on
It's to send false data to fatshark to get them to buff Blaze Trauma
i probably asked this 5 times before, any link to what each of the stims do?
Well, you did your part, so that’s excellent
On zealot combat axe with 700 kills I do 500k damage. Yet 1.2k kills with trauma net me 540k 
Seems legit.
Combat goes brr, movement goes dur, concentration goes vet, heal goes heal 
Celerity is CDR I think
Combat goes brr
fuk u
yeah gives ability and blitz cooldown
i want actual stats
yessir tho im very sad i didn't get most melee elite
I like taking the useless ones and just stabbing random people in elevators
You can always do better next time - keep at it
Incapable.
concentration is nice
cweave
impact/damage/cleave
cleave as in
maximum number of targets you can cleave
or the cleave damage
BE SPECIFIC PEEPOl
Means ur a dirty kill stealer

@lethal lagoon i was thinking about this all day
its multiplicative in the way way for the regen delay
and its additive for the regen amount
Med Stimm
Restores one health segment, or 25% of max health, whichever one is larger, of health and corruption damage.
Med stimms can’t be used on a target, on one self or other players, if the target has no health or corruption damage to restore.
Combat Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increase in Power 25% (Damage + Stagger Strength).
Rending 25% (Armour Penetration).
Reduction of Peril Generation -33% (Generate less Peril when using Psyker’s Warp Abilities).
Celerity Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increase in Reload Speed 15%.
Reduction in Stamina Costs -25% for Pushing, Blocking, -50% for sprinting.
Increases Attack Speed by 20%.
Increase the following by 25%:
Charge up time of Plasma guns, Psyker’s Brain Burst and Psyker Staves. The speed of which the Psyker’s Smite propagates between enemies. Speed of which the Psyker can throw Shards using Assail. Speed of which the Psyker Quells their Peril.
Concentration Stimm
Lasts 15 seconds.
Increases your Combat Ability Cooldown Regeneration speed by +300% (Four times as fast as usual).
also thanks dood

yeah but the absolute values of the increases don't decrease that much
the last 30% curio perk only decreases regen delay by 0.19 seconds
compared to the first at 0.3 seconds
its a big difference.
0.11 seconds isn't that much
I think I may have misunderstand and that it was multiplicative with talents

Thanks for show me that

nw
i tested it with essence harvest and it doesnt increase that, but i have heard that it increases the vet over time toughness regen talent
I switched all my regen the last match I played, so I guess it was fate
whatever thats called
🥹
off or on haha
off
dude its just a 0.11 decrease
^

was in reply to this
wha
relatively yes, but thats why i said to look at the absolute value
are you going to tell me you can even feel a 0.11 second difference of delay?
I'm the princess and the toughness regen
Also yeah, he was just talking about the numbers
Honestly probably still worth if you are in cohernecy alot
just to confirm, you're referring to the toughness regen delay correct
Wait a minute those second numbers are weird. Why does it decrease .30?
- Amount of toughness restored per second
Is the mod wrong?
this as well?
wait per hit? i thought we regained toughness on kill
1.5 to .77 is also more than 90%
you mean, per kill
yeah kill
According to the above screenshot (may be wrong, i will endeavour to find out)
damn i didn't know
i only knew about the first two
thanks for testing



