psyker-class

[hard widget]

one with the warp seems kinda good though

[plush oak]

deffo try it out with scriers gaze too, its insane

crit on purg = double stacks

[plucky flax]

You have soulstealer you won't need toughness on peril gain.

You also have mettle. 3 toughness gain from using your staff is too much.

[hard widget]

that makes sense

is brain burst a must on purge staff, how do yall deal with crusher packs with purge staff and assail

melee only?

[spice veldt]

melee usually

purg to kill/stagger the non-crusher stuff

and stab the crushers with some melee that's good against crushers

[hard widget]

do specials on force sword count as warp based kills?

[lunar hollow]

bleed knife ofc

[wind spruce]

yeah

Ovenproof dropped his new mod on github yesterday

[patent wing]

how good is the chance that we get rending on scriers gaze?

[plucky flax]

Rude guy. :c

[midnight jolt]

what is wrong? what is he complaining about? 3 wounds vs 2?

[paper loom]

Anyone got a recommendation to watch gun pysker gameplay?

Just want to see how others are playing it

I seem to be the only gundalf using smite

[hard widget]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJhsNeLdOTU

I havent seen it myself, but this guy is pretty good

[plucky flax]

Guy with 3 wounds died (cheddar). 2 or 3 wounds if they fully die they die.

[paper loom]

Ty mate il check him out

Should you not have extra wounds or something? I run with 1 extra

I'm 45 with shit reactions would be screwed without it

[hard widget]

well if you catch yourself going down a lot then 1 wound is useful of course, but ideally you wanna build around not going down consistently and run 2 toughness 1 health or 3 toughness

[plucky flax]

You run whatever you want mane

People shouldn't gate keep.

[hard widget]

Only voidstrike psykers allowed , everyone else is garbo

[paper loom]

Asking me to not be downed is like asking a fish to not swim

[hard widget]

then you're fine

since you're making good use of the 1 extra wound

[paper loom]

I have a sexy hat though so I add a bit of fashion sense to the group

[hard widget]

rare is the psyker that can manage to add fashion to the group

most of the psyker cosmetics look atrocious imo

[spice veldt]

death

[midnight jolt]

I clutched a game to represent the class, it was only sstandard heresy but is something 😉

team was dead, 30 hounds came at me, my walls stopped them 😂

10, 15, 20, who knows, a pack of hounds

I was using the double shield wall

[modern tusk]

I just want my damn warp charges

[midnight jolt]

Shame, is bricked:

[hard widget]

personally, id use the heck out of that

[midnight jolt]

Almost 2 weeks playing this game, I can certainly say I'm happy with my weapons so far:

[plucky flax]

No slaughterer on illisi is interesting.

[midnight jolt]

don't have it I think

actually, I have it, should probably change shred to that, but I'm not using it at the moment, still in love with DS4 😂

I think when I put shred there I didn't have it, I have the version 3 at the moment

[zenith vigil]

what blessings should I look for on a dueling sword?

also perk?

[midnight jolt]

See mine on the screenshots

but also atheneum

[hard widget]

i assume the quell from venting shriek triggers the quell reduction talents? ( like warp expenditure)

also, is perilous combustion worth taking with purgatus staff and in fire reborn?

[untold niche]

idk dood

[untold niche]

yeh always worth to take PC

[untold niche]

orange is majority agreed upon but debatable

[hard widget]

Im doing this rn with purg staff, considering dropping pc

[untold niche]

could you take screenshot of top portion as well

[untold niche]

oh im dumb sorri

[untold niche]

dropping PC to ta ke wat

[hard widget]

dunno yet, but I only took pc because it can trigger in fire reborn, but 3 soulblaze stacks is kinda low dmg

I could take empathic evasion instead

or more toughness

[untold niche]

mr arco

are you onlinr

this guy nids help

[spice veldt]

looks fine, besides the fact that i'd take quietitude rather than warp expenditure

mettle should be good enough for refilling your toughness while you're spraying purg, and quietitude will be for what comes after

shame that you can't afford empathic evasion but it is what it is

[hard widget]

I can if I drop pc

is pc worth keeping

[spice veldt]

hmmm

i like PC for crusher packs with an uncanny melee

[hard widget]

also, using purg staff

[spice veldt]

you'll prob have to run with both and see what works with you

[midnight jolt]

Brain fart, for a moment I thought you were displaying the skills an average plasteel farmer should have

Brunt trolling ...

is this usable? will this shit mobility affect me that much?

[mystic burrow]

i would honestly consider using it

knife has pretty high mobility by default, so its not too big of a flaw

[mystic burrow]

just bless it and see where it takes u, it'll be a good starter knife

especially with that default 25% maniac perk

[midnight jolt]

gonna give it a try

how do you deal with crushers and caparaced in general with the knife? I know DS4 special staggers them

[mystic burrow]

literally time the dodge slide

there's no way to stagger them

with a knife

[midnight jolt]

is kind of bricked?

[mystic burrow]

eh, is ok

lacerate helps with horde clear, but the masses has mixed opinions about it

riposte is generally a good blessing for knife

knife's finesse stat multiples crit and weakspot dmg of the knife by alot

so riposte/precog is good blessing

easy to proc in horde which would help with horde clear, tougher to proc vs smaller amount of people as u need to have very perfect dodge timing to proc it

[midnight jolt]

I have precog 3 and uncanny strike 4

[mystic burrow]

same goes to precog, easy to proc in horde, hard to proc in smaller groups

[mystic burrow]

u can put those 2 if u want, its up to preference mostly

[midnight jolt]

or can change unyielding to flak and leave riposte + uncanny

[mystic burrow]

uncanny's generally good, as rending helps regardless of dmg type

[mystic burrow]

works too

u can test out the dmg in psykhanium first

see how much dmg u deal to primarily the ragers

if scab rager takes 3 hits, and u think the 25 flak can lower it to 2, then go for it

test it out with heavy stab to weakspot, as that's generally how u use knife for elites anyway

or u can try the push stab, since this knife is famous for that attack

[midnight jolt]

End result:

[mystic burrow]

pretty usable in general besides the low mobility

u just wont be speedrunning, that's all

[upper sun]

who was talking about rolling for a stamina 3 curio yesterday?

pls dont be mad

[plucky flax]

75 rating is fake news.

[upper sun]

different curios have different ratings even if they do the same things

[plucky flax]

Go to meat grinder and check it. It won't give you 3 stam.

It'd give you 2.5

[opaque charm]

:0

[upper sun]

no wayyy

wait

[opaque charm]

My friends ask me why I'm always making builds that can handle everything instead of focusing on one thing... It's because when you pug 2/3 of your team mates could be knife Zealots 😭

[upper sun]

making a very focused build is not a good idea in solo queue

[plucky flax]

What's wrong with knife zealot?

[opaque charm]

I think 90%+ of people who hate the scoreboard mod are Zealots

Like they pay Zealot the most

[midnight jolt]

I like DS4 more

but needed to try it

[plucky flax]

I am knife zealot enjoyer.

[upper sun]

i cant be bothered leveling other classes tbh

my psyker is more tanky than my lvl 10 ogryn 😦

[upper sun]

you had me going i was just about to cry

[opaque charm]

Duh your default stam was already 3.5

[upper sun]

aaaaaaaaa STOP PLEASE

just let me live my lie in peace

[plucky flax]

You need rating 77 I think.

Because FS round up in their text thing.

[opaque charm]

If you wanna "Gunpsyker" while feeling like an actual Psyker instead of some Vet who's ult technically uses the warp. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_q7UiJh85CU&

[upper sun]

"And this is a bug I have finally reverse-engineered a few months back. In order to get the full +3 stamina, you need 76 blessing or higher on the curio. For whatever reason the Psykanium will actually give you +3 stamina if you have a 75 rating curio, even though the in game will not."

seriously

in a game where 90% of the crafting is chasing +2% they cant be bothered to give accurate discriptions?

[opaque charm]

Hmmm jump in an uprising to check I guess

[upper sun]

nah i believe it

[quartz barn]

Prob has to do with weird rounding

Smt like 2.445, main game reads 2.44 while psyk checks the full value

[mystic burrow]

i would honestly prefer having empowered psionics over defy destiny when using assail as a gun psyker, as fun as defy destiny is, empowered psionics allow more up time on assail, especially into an elite horde

but very cool gunpsyker assail build, honestly im surprised that not more people bring venting shriek with assail as gunpsyker, its pretty strong combo, as much as i love scrier's gaze, its still a meme at the end of the day

[midnight jolt]

can confirm, mobility not a problem:

[mystic burrow]

good for u sibling

go commit mass genocide upon the heretics

[nocturne crater]

thoughts on improvements for my brain burster wall boi?

don't mind the purple curio, my first 20% hp

[midnight jolt]

For the curios a safe bet is +30% toughness regen speed and gunners resistance, the 3rd is whatever, I usually go for more toughness or HP

For the swords:

[nocturne crater]

toughness is my go to swap for curios but I've been unlucky on rolls

[midnight jolt]

That is on the atheneum, an extremely good guide pinned on this channel

it also goes into more details for every recommended weapons, perks, blessings, etc

[nocturne crater]

thanks, just seeing what I can work on in the immediate term

[midnight jolt]

The blazing sword is a meme btw, ignore that one 😂

[mystic burrow]

improving your character by default is kinda hard to comment on

cuz from what i can see for now, both your weapons are just terrible, all i can honestly say is get better weapons

[nocturne crater]

psyker is my least played char, and I only do some AM Heresy

[mystic burrow]

it'd be better if u ask for specific things about weapons u wanna use, or builds u wanna run

[midnight jolt]

Assuming you are already Lv30, don't craft before Lv30 and there is an unwritten rule when crafting, if you have a bad perk + bad blessing, don't continue, unless you feel you must but at that point is bricked

[nocturne crater]

typically normal and malice for melk

[midnight jolt]

For for Heresy for consistent income, all the time

Also more players

I think

[nocturne crater]

it's rough finding upgrades, these are the best I've got so far

[long wharf]

anybody that uses "reverse-engineered" to mean "I took a second to notice something on the screen" really bugs me

[upper sun]

what if you just wanna surrender it anyways for a blessing?

[midnight jolt]

find a crafting video, then thank me for being poor 😂

[nocturne crater]

the sword is a melk, and the staff is so I could get the 2nd blessing

I have a line of greens waiting for mats so I can roll for blessings lol

[upper sun]

the warp told him

[long wharf]

must have

[nocturne crater]

[long wharf]

welcome to the true Darktide end-game

[nocturne crater]

WTT dia for plast

I may have bad meta weapons, but I make up for it by not being bad at the game

[long wharf]

missed opportunity to say "I hide it by being even worse at playing the game"

[nocturne crater]

[upper sun]

how do you run out of platsteel first?

[mystic burrow]

?

that's how its always been

the only 2 things constantly expanding is the universe, and my collection of diamantine

[nocturne crater]

really impossible to run out of dia unless you only upgrade purples

[upper sun]

damn id trade you some plat for diamantine

[nocturne crater]

no you wouldn't

[mystic burrow]

trust me u wouldnt

[nocturne crater]

get back to me in like 3 weeks

[long wharf]

trust me, you should absolutely trade me your plasteel

you won't regret the decision at all

[mystic burrow]

no he's a scammer, dont trust him

[long wharf]

ever

... a what?

[nocturne crater]

his dad is fatshark

[upper sun]

noooo ive just been rolling for blessings

[nocturne crater]

same

[mystic burrow]

idk what level are u, but u'll for sure run into similar problems as us eventually

that's a fact

[upper sun]

ive been 30 for a while

[mystic burrow]

only new players will struggle with diamantine

[nocturne crater]

do you guys roll purples or greens?

for blessings?

[upper sun]

~100 hours in?

[mystic burrow]

i roll weapons from brunt, then roll them for blessings

[nocturne crater]

I just buy greens off the store

[mystic burrow]

im impatient

[upper sun]

i tried blunts for a bit but i never got anything higher than 330 base

[mystic burrow]

plus those extra ordo dockets gotta go somewhere

[upper sun]

buying anything 370+ from the normal store seems less wasteful

[nocturne crater]

is it cheaper than store?

[mystic burrow]

gambling is never cheaper

[upper sun]

greys and greens are cheaper

[nocturne crater]

to buy rand vs store inv

[mystic burrow]

it depends on your luck

[upper sun]

blues if you get anything good are ~11k-18k?

[nocturne crater]

lol, you don't get good blues

[mystic burrow]

the only thing that'll ever be good in the store is the perks and the modifiers, the blessings will almost always be shxt

[nocturne crater]

buying a blue means you already have a blessing that needs replaced

[upper sun]

yeah nah blessings are all bad

[mystic burrow]

best u can get is a t3 blessing, most common u get t1-2

[long wharf]

it's impossible to find a god-rolled blue in Brunts

because he doesn't sell t3/t4 blessings

[mystic burrow]

plus the weapon type is randomized

[mystic burrow]

t3s exist, oh they fking do

its just a once in a blue moon thing, trust me, i got it once

[long wharf]

I've yet to see one in Brunts, then

[mystic burrow]

not that it mattered since i needed the t4 one

[mystic burrow]

almost as rare as doodoos

[nocturne crater]

they need to buff IV rolls for green upgrades

[long wharf]

greens don't have blessings

[opaque charm]

DD makes the Fanning Revolver very very good though

[nocturne crater]

that's why you upgrade them to blue for blessings

[mystic burrow]

i wont disagree, but at that point i'd rather have the regular revolver with the same blessings/perks

[opaque charm]

And I think the Fanning Revolver is so good when paired with Assail

[upper sun]

Accatran Mk VIIa Recon Lasgun
308 dam 79% stability 21%
how does a lasgun have recoil i have no idea

[mystic burrow]

it'll be just as effective with more accuracy and dmg, altho slightly slower

[opaque charm]

Well as for the old revolver it reloads very slowly and does less boss damage

[long wharf]

lorewise, the first lasguns didn't, and soldiers said it felt weird, so they added recoil to make the lasguns feel like regular guns

[nocturne crater]

a psyker without a staff is heresy

[mystic burrow]

only reason new revolver is faster at boss dmg is due to u emptying mags faster, but honestly at the end of the day i just wouldnt use revolvers for boss dmg

its a matter of preference at the end

[upper sun]

i swear to the emperor one day im gonna hook up a tech priest to a car battery and see if that fixes them

[mystic burrow]

also a bigger part of defy destiny is the weakspot dmg increase, its a bigger bonus from defy destiny compared to the crit dmg, so i'd like to be able to utilize it too

[stone egret]

what to reroll / add here?

[mystic burrow]

and the regular revolver allows me to do so more effectively

[opaque charm]

It's easy enough to hit headshots with the Fanning Revolver

[mystic burrow]

short ranged sure

its the long range that poses the issue

especially when engaging stuff like crushers, maulers and reapers

[opaque charm]

Yeah but long range isn't really an issue, what are you shooting with the revolver at long range that you could just Assail instead?

[mystic burrow]

cuz its a type of enemy u dont assail

as mentioned in video, i'll just assume u havent read what i said completely

[opaque charm]

Reapers are easy to kill at longer ranges with the Fanning

[mystic burrow]

replace sutained assault with warp nexus, then replace 25% to infested with 5% crit chance

and u're golden

[opaque charm]

Crushers run at you

[stone egret]

cheers for quick answer, thanks!

[mystic burrow]

well there's 2 ways to look at it, 1 u wanna be more ammo efficient, 2 u wanna be faster

u wanna be faster, i wanna be ammo efficient, that's my take on this

[opaque charm]

Fanning has more ammo than the old revolver

[mystic burrow]

more ammo doesnt directly translate to more efficiency

if i can one shot multiple gunners that are perfectly group together with 1 bullet, and u need multiple just to take down 1 or 2, from there u might start to see some differences

[opaque charm]

The point of the Fanning Revolver is to quickly deal damage that the Assail can't

[nocturne crater]

anyone wanna help me get the 90% psyker penance?

[opaque charm]

So you can face that pack of 6 crushers without spending a year reloading

[opaque charm]

This is silly, you are wasting ammo on gunners that you can Assail

[mystic burrow]

yea there's that argument too

but then u also used ammo on the gunners in the video

so uh, yea

all i need is to just not have reload speed as the dump stat, or use the combat axe/dueling sword

[opaque charm]

It depends on the situation, I can quickly Assail then use the Fanning Revolver then Assail then melee then use the Fanning Revolver because of it's near instant reload + assail is constantly reloading

[mystic burrow]

like i said its just preference

[opaque charm]

I prefer to keep fighting over spending 1/3 of my time reloading

[mystic burrow]

u can do that, no problem

[opaque charm]

You know without blessing/class talents the old Revolver has a terrible reload time

This isn't even debatable

[mystic burrow]

u know without blessings new revolver has terrible dmg to crushers

[opaque charm]

Ok but that's why you take DD and Handcannon

[mystic burrow]

its still just preference like i said

[opaque charm]

It really isn't. What access does Psyker have to make the old revolver reload quickly?

[mystic burrow]

just like how i can just have dueling sword

if old revolver requires less shots why would i need more bullets in the chamber

[opaque charm]

Because you shoot it more than 5 times per match

[mystic burrow]

ok?

what does shooting a revolver 5 times per match say?

[opaque charm]

That you have to deal with it's garbage reload

And here comes six crushers

[mystic burrow]

3 ways to deal with it, either u get reload blessing/perk/modifer, or u master kiting while reloading with dodge slides/safe moments, or u get a dueling sword, force sword, knife, combat axe

[opaque charm]

Lol ok ruin your revolver with the reload blessings good idea, have you even tried it?

Or kite... Kite!

[mystic burrow]

well, i personally dont grab reload blessings or perks, but i have a dueling sword

[opaque charm]

Sorry here come a horde behind you

[mystic burrow]

damn, must've been bad positioning if u got cornered

[near wyvern]

This is how you should actually use Assails and the new revolver.

https://youtu.be/1qF5JthpWXg

[opaque charm]

Yes lets melee those six crushers that will show me how good the old revolver is vs fanning, when you are forced to bring a melee weapon to make up for it's deficiency!

[sly comet]

Nice ragdoll.

[hushed egret]

both revolvers are good

I like fanning the hammer personally but the old revolver still reloads plenty fast enough for its single target. not like Psyker has any other gun alternatives for that

[feral knoll]

Sometimes I just wanna be a space wizard cowboy

[hushed egret]

laspistol if you build it right, but that has laughable carapace damage

[feral knoll]

Simple as

[upper sun]

disconnect
game still loading 5 minutes later

HELLO FATSHARK HELLO?!!?!

[gloomy magnet]

try DarkCached mod

time saver

[upper sun]

i cant use mods i play on geforce now

[gloomy magnet]

xbox?

[feral verge]

geforce now

[upper sun]

pc but streamed through someone else's pc

[feral verge]

geforce now streams the game from aother PC

to your pc

[agile geode]

not played Psyker for a while (since around release) and im looking to complete penances.
any good tips on keeping max warp charges, and any major changes in weapons used?
i'm using brainburst and shriek (penance hunting) specced into soulblaze

[feral verge]

for the warp battery achievement, you should be playing damnation +

in lower difficulties, there jsut arent enough elites/specials

but you dont want to be shrieking/venting either, because that will remove your warp charges

[midnight jolt]

can auric + heresy help?

[feral verge]

auric helps

but you really want to be palying auric damnation to get it

ironically, the easiest way

[agile geode]

i have gotten used to playing on damnation and auric difficulties from other classes,
took a bit of a beating on the one i jsut did tho (so many gunners, and an ogryn that ran past everything leaving me and another (traumer) psyker to deal with them

[upper sun]

wow someone sued you into playing it?

[agile geode]

quick typing xD

[midnight jolt]

do double shield walls remove warp charges?

[feral verge]

read the feats bro

[upper sun]

imagine getting sentenced to 3 years of auric solo queue

[feral verge]

all warp charges are consumed on any ult

the consumed warp charges reduce ult cool down

whether it's shriek, shield or scrier's gaze

[agile geode]

yeah thats the thing, i know im not suppsoed to do it, but often i have little choice when no one else is around the help with the pack of ragers charging me xD

[feral verge]

when running warp charge fgeat, they get consumed on ult

[agile geode]

i do auric in solo queue, no friends that play this game xD

[midnight jolt]

sorry, I have read it, the game doesn't tell you in the skill tree that such is your combat ability

[agile geode]

i can tell you this,, they are easier than heresy due to player experience xD (most of the time at least)

[upper sun]

my problem is i have two that played it but they already have ~500 hours and no longer wanna play more

[agile geode]

got some friends that were burned severely during beta and release, and lost interest in giving it another chance

[sly comet]

These are possible with a supportive team. I unlocked Warp Battery just yesterday, and I lost it. Took me 3 weeks of dedicated play, but I got it.

[upper sun]

i got it during the december sale minimum i have a couple of months in me

[agile geode]

is it easier with 4 or 6 as max?

[midnight jolt]

They probably need to add something that says on the skill tree, these are your combat abilties, there is nowhere in the game where they are referred as ultimates, since you can have 2 active abilities

Here is the Warp Siphon description:

[agile geode]

i have been loving it since beta,, yeah it has had MANY problems, but i think its worth it

[feral verge]

4, just because it's 2 less than 6

[agile geode]

that was my intial thought,, but you only need to get it to 6 from the start, after that its the same time to kee pthem there right?

[upper sun]

my only problem is the load times tbh nvidia has good hardware the game has no business taking this long to load

[feral verge]

yes, it'll be the same time

[midnight jolt]

4 would be easier but you sacrifice damage, so cons and pros

you will suck a bit while chasing that stupid penance

[agile geode]

as with most penances...

[midnight jolt]

I hate it, is fucking stupid

not most

[feral verge]

the penances used to be far worse

[midnight jolt]

only a 10% of them annoying lazy designed penances

[midnight jolt]

I can only imagine

[feral verge]

i got them all before they were patched/fixed to be made easier

[midnight jolt]

private game .... why, just why?

fk that for me

[upper sun]

i have the 40k enemies but not the 10k scabs one

[agile geode]

yeah i worked on them at the time as well...
wasted so much trying to complete zealots "its jsut a flesh wound"

[feral verge]

becasue psykers were going into public games trying to get those penances, and ruiining them

i was one of the psykers, atleast a few times

[agile geode]

same,,,,

[upper sun]

i hope they add solo private games already

[agile geode]

telling people to not damage the monstrosity,,,,,

[midnight jolt]

I don't think that's what this game is about, did they do that with Vermintide games? probably not, I don't think they will here but I have no idea TBH

[sly comet]

4. If you take the 6 max talent, then the timer won't begin until you reach 6. If it drops to 5, the timer starts over once you reach six again.

[agile geode]

but the timer will also reset if i drop to 3 right?

[sly comet]

Affirmative.

[agile geode]

i dont see why 4 is easier to maintain than 6 😅
it takes longer to get to 6 potentially, but other than that, there is no difference, other than more DR and damage?

[feral verge]

4 is not easier to maintian than 6

but you hit 4 kills faster, which means you spend more time at max stacks

[sly comet]

The best trick is to go into a high level shock troop gauntlet mission that spawns tons of specials.
Coordinate with your team so that only you kill the specials, and watch the timer closely.
If there are 8 specials in an area, and you kill one of them every 24 seconds, you'll reach 192 seconds rather than killing them all at the same time.
Stretch the specials out, have a team that either hides from them or dodges them while you get the kills.

[agile geode]

wait,,,, is it 300 total at max stacks?
and not in one go?!

[sly comet]

300 consecutive seconds at max stacks. Yes.

[agile geode]

okay,, for a second i thought i completely misunderstood it xD

[sly comet]

If you drop a stack, 4/4 to 3/4, the timer starts over.

[agile geode]

thats what i understood from it yeah

[sly comet]

I'm glad you did. I didn't know that for the first week I attempted it.

At one point, I had 290/300.

[agile geode]

oh damn

so close yet so far

[stone canyon]

Melk wants my Psyker to try axe?

[sly comet]

Check these out.
https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/1195069044831821854
https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/1195839159118606356

[stone canyon]

(im gonna get it regardless if i use it, to grab atleast Headtaker IV for my zealot)

[sly comet]

Wait, do Blessings cross over? I thought they only affected weapons for the class you sacrificed the weapon for.

[ionic frost]

Shared weapons are shared blessings.

[sly comet]

I see.

[ionic frost]

Combat Knife is same blessing pool no matter which character you use.

Ogryns don't share weapons with other classes.

[sly comet]

So I should've been donating those weapons instead of selling them.
Very well.

[ionic frost]

No reason to sell a weapon you could strip a blessing from.

You only get a few ordo.

[sly comet]

Yes. I know that now. I hate being stupid.

[hot zephyr]

Melk being nice today, gave me this all ready to be turned into a flurry/shcokwave truama

[hard widget]

if you look at the blessings on any character, and if the blessing on the gun has a magnifying glass icon next to it, it means you can donate the gun for that blessing, if you see any weapon with the magnifying glass on the blessing and you dont want to keep it, just donate it for that blessing

[hard widget]

you can see the symbol Im talking about on the staffs blessings here^

[sly comet]

Thanks for the tip. I became a Psyker main chasing after penances, and I was selling autoguns since I'm a dedicated Warp build. I'll donate any I get from now on for my Veteran.

[hard widget]

if it doesnt have the glass icon next to it, it means you already have that blessing unlocked for that weapon type

also dont donate good weapons you want to keep and use even if they have the icon next to it

[hot zephyr]

Quite a few of the guns augment what the warp-based builds can do. Don't just vendor them

[stone canyon]

This is gamechanger tip, i never know if i already have em or not

Wish things were explained bit better ingame on things like this

[hard widget]

[sly comet]

I do it more for style. I've seen plenty of autogun builds that work with great success.
I just like power swords and staffs.

[hot zephyr]

enitrely fair, just saying don't discount the blitz based builds like Assail EP or Brain Burst EP because they carry a gun for utility

[stone canyon]

Nice to know i already have Brutal Momentum III then, its not shown with magnifying glass in my picture

[hot zephyr]

That axe you linked eariler is very nice btw. Fix those perks and it'll be great

headtaker/brutal is S tier blessings

[stone canyon]

Yeah, blessings are spot on already, flak+maniac?

[hard widget]

just for that weapon type, yes

[hot zephyr]

Your choice really. I currently use maniac/unyielding but that's because I run it with my purgatus

[stone canyon]

Well, if i change the perks, can always switch later on (incase i dont sacrifice the Headtaker IV)

Wish i had it on my Zealot, but gonna try it on Psyker too for sake of variety, been swinging Macabian Duellist from lvl 20 to 30+15 which i am now

[sly comet]

Surge Force Staff, Illisi MK V Blaze Force Sword, and shield blitz are my current loadout.
I sometimes swap Surge Force Staff for Purgatus Force Staff depending on my mood.

[stone canyon]

Phew, 80 rating, heard at 75, its fake +3stamina and instead +2,5

[wind spruce]

Do you mean the shield combat ability?

[sly comet]

Yes.

Bubble shield.

[near wyvern]

Stam so good

[wind spruce]

Max is 21%

[near wyvern]

Current max yes

[stone canyon]

I sadly have to keep +1wound also, because im still new to using Staffs and keep blowing myself up on regular basis

[midnight jolt]

My new favorite staff:

[near wyvern]

You will learn

[stone canyon]

Several games where i barely took any damage but blew myself up twice or so

[near wyvern]

Venting Shreik for ult helps

Since you can cancel the self explosion animation with it

[stone canyon]

Yeah i did the penance for that, and it taught me some very bad habits, ever since ive been blowing up lot more

[midnight jolt]

there is a penance for that 😂

[hard widget]

fs really dropped the ball with psyker penances

[stone canyon]

It was funny though, 2-3 missions i constantly went crazy with my psyker laughing hysterically

[hard widget]

" lemme kill the monstrosity please"
" lemme kill the elites please'
"I might blow up anytime"
" I actually do have to blow up next to an elite"

[midnight jolt]

it went psycho

[stone canyon]

So happy Psyker cosmetic penances 100% done now

One kind fella from here helped the last custom game brainburst 90% monstrosity one

Shoutout to @proud pivot got my Zealot custom speedrun done too while at it

Now i can stay poor and not buying any cosmetics while still have mild amount of drip

[wind spruce]

Untrue.

[wind spruce]

I just tested it in the psykhanium to make sure. Peril generated from a plague ogryn charge was the exact same with a 80 and a 75 +3 stan curio

[tulip kettle]

i have a +3 stam curio at 75 on my vet, and a +78

the +75 stam one shows 3 stam in psykanium

but only 2 in actual game

[stone canyon]

Im just parroting what i read on Zealot chat, zero knowledge on the topic myself

[tulip kettle]

i think its correct that +3 stam curios on exactly 75 dont function correctly in game

wether it makes any difference when blocking with kinetic deflector on is moot obviously

you will see the same peril generated because its costing peril, not stam, so the curio makes no difference.

[earnest laurel]

Why the fuck dont people melee the enemies you have stunned with smite? Its like they are alergic to it.

[tulip kettle]

i like watching the zombies do the thriller

is that so wrong?

[earnest laurel]

I have 4 ogryn stunned, and they run past them, like???????

[tulip kettle]

oh well youree stunning them

so you obviously have the situation handled

better leave you to it

[earnest laurel]

If my smite could fucking kill them alone, i wouldnt need them , would I?

[wind spruce]

The curio does make a difference... the more stamina you have the less peril generated

Psyker 101 stuff cmon

[tulip kettle]

okay youre trolling

[split oxide]

Somone told me this last week:
"psykers are great while everything is fine, but get in trouble when things go south" - paraphrased

[wind spruce]

Bro

Go test it

I'm dead serious

It scales off of max stamina

[midnight jolt]

can we agree that the old lady from Insidious Movies (Elise) was a psyker?

[wind spruce]

Here's a video exmple

[wind spruce]

This is true. Just loaded up a game with a 75 "3" stam curio

[split oxide]

KineticDeflector:

• haven't used it in 6months. but definitely damages Peril.
• Got overheaded by crusher; Purple-Peril-Tentacles all over my screen.

[latent hill]

can i even consider THIS good rolls for the stats...?

[opal lake]

How much damage a tick does 6 stacks of soulblaze do? I'm not at my computer right now or I would check. I know that 3 stacks is ~60 damage but I don't know the scaling.

[tulip kettle]

okay i watched your video

[wind spruce]

The question is whether increasing stamina makes kinetic deflection more efficient.

Himt: it does

[tulip kettle]

and it does not show that at all

did you even watch it?

[wind spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/9io3X6j3rU

Wrong video sorry

It's 5am here

[split oxide]

Looks good.
What looks trash is the fact you have 'magnifying glasses' over your Blessings: you should farm more blessings.

[split oxide]

For ForcePush. and when your Peil expires.

[latent hill]

Yeah… Haven’t gotten around to doing that until like recently

[split oxide]

Buy what you can from store.
Buy what you can from Melk.

[agile geode]

well glory to the emperor, 1 auric where i actually tried, and i got it xD
elevators are annoying for this tho

[sly comet]

Congratulations!

[tulip kettle]

okay i agree that for some reason the peril generated by blocking is scaled based on percentage of total stamina

that is not how i thought it worked and is not how it should work wtf

[wind spruce]

It's very unintuitive, that's for sure. So many people don't know, hence the Reddit post

[latent hill]

Will do

[tulip kettle]

it does not describe it like that literally in the skill description

[split oxide]

Looks like someone hasn't done the "non-lethal/non-warpfire VentShriek" from VigilStationOblivium (final-scene)gangplank yet

[tulip kettle]

and is obviously broken with + 3 stam curios and peril generation reduction

[wind spruce]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/s/2rjsvCGNol

[wind spruce]

Check this one out lol

Taking the theory to the max

[tulip kettle]

you dont even need to min max on it that hard, you will never need to block this much dmg in a short time in a game

just 2 +3 stam with deflector makes you borderline unkillable, thats very cool

[agile geode]

no, last time i hunted penances on Psyker was during beta

[wind spruce]

For sure, was just a meme build, not recommended

[wind spruce]

Yeah it's sick

[tulip kettle]

why does it not generate peril based on the stamina cost, which is based on the attack that hits you, like the description says

dumb

[wind spruce]

Fatshark code

[split oxide]

Stamina not kineticDeflection.

[tulip kettle]

?

[midnight jolt]

then I should get this and keep the 4% toughness 😂

[wind spruce]

Yes

[viscid matrix]

Because are shit at coding and making tooltips that match the coding

[midnight jolt]

1300 coins of whatever

[wind spruce]

?

[midnight jolt]

gonna give it a go, to have 1 x +3 stamina on my curios

[split oxide]

Title says: stamina 11+.

• Blocking always takes Stamina.
  You only 'dirvert the damage to Peril' if you have the talent-node "kinetic deflection".

[wind spruce]

Decent stam curios are the hardest to come by, so I'd buy it. Bit of extra toughness doesn't hurt

[near wyvern]

@tulip kettle check Psyker Atheneum (Google it) for what talents actually do. Fatshark is full of many lies.

[wind spruce]

I have kinetic deflection on in the video, buddy. That's the whole point

[split oxide]

oh

[wind spruce]

To showcase how stamina increases the efficiency of KD

[tulip kettle]

ive read your guide pygex its very comprehensive and useful

you say to take stamina curios i think but i dont remeber seeing this specific interaction with KD mentioned

i do have quite crippling ADHD though...

[split oxide]

double oh.

[midnight jolt]

Alright, here is it, let's see how it does:

[wind spruce]

My brother in distractedness and lack of orientation towards long term goals, me too

[wind spruce]

Switch one of the perks to combat ability

[split oxide]

I run 3x CombatAbilityRegen.

• 6 sec between Domes.

[wind spruce]

Should be run on every build, imo.

[midnight jolt]

maybe I do that in the other 2 toughness, so I will lose 10% toughness for ability cool down

My 3 curios

but not sure if losing this HP will screw me over too bad:

[wind spruce]

Are you aware of the diminishing returns from multiple damage resist curios?

[lone ravine]

3 of the same is like 51% total dmg reduction

[wind spruce]

Correct

[lone ravine]

Idk the math that’s just what I remember reading

[tulip kettle]

i usually aim for 1 gunner resist 1 toughness gen and 12 cd reductions

2*

[midnight jolt]

20 + 20 + 15 = 55% so if that goes down to 51% then is not so bad

[tulip kettle]

then the rest 5% tough and 5% hp

[midnight jolt]

do I get a diminishing return for 30% toughness regen?

[wind spruce]

The math is 100 damage x 0.8 = 80 damage.

80 damage × 0.8 = 64 damage

64 damage × 0.8 = 51.2 damage

So the last curio only reduces damage by 12.8% of total

Nearly half of the first

[lone ravine]

I see

[midnight jolt]

The last one only has 15% dmg reduction

[wind spruce]

64 × 0.84 = 54.5%

[lone ravine]

Does the order you equip curios matter for dmg reduct order?

[wind spruce]

So your last curio only reduces by 9.5% damage. Switch it up. I only ever run two damage resist perks of any type because of this diminishing returns

[wind spruce]

No.

[wind spruce]

Yes and no

You'll get diminishing returns for the reduced time until toughness starts regening.

But not for the rate at which it regenerates

[red jacinth]

Keep a slot in case balance changes or put a perk to unyielding?

[wind spruce]

Fuck me that's good

369 aswell

[red jacinth]

only 13 mil dockets lmao

[wind spruce]

What perk would u be removing if u took unyielding?

[red jacinth]

eh, mabye flak

[wind spruce]

i wont give u advice, i havent used deimos a whole lot

i was like "i wonder what ive got thats actually good". Found this guy, wrapping still on

[red jacinth]

oh nice

[agile geode]

which force sword do you prefer for chopping through hordes and int elites when needed?

[red jacinth]

also advice on this?

i kinda know where to go with it

[wind spruce]

Illisi is by far the best in any mixed horde

[wind spruce]

That's incredible. Switch transfer peril (which does nothing on trauma) to blazing spirit and switch infested to crit or maniacs

I've been maining trauma for months and I prefer maniacs so I can one tap trappers consistently, but most people would recommend the crit for synergy, which I won't disagree with

[red jacinth]

ye, that was what i was going to do, just checking

ill just do flakiac

[queen fog]

I got a trama force that’s all bout fast m2, warp flurry n all that

[wind spruce]

Yeah I've got the same

Millions of dockets gone and I can't top it 😦

[queen fog]

Ooo nice finds on those 4s tho

Mine is still tier 3 blessings

[wind spruce]

You'll get there, I have ungodly hours

[queen fog]

As do I friend, as do I

Remember funny EP smite bug?

[wind spruce]

The rending is really cool for burning down crushers, makes warpfire tick for an actually decent amount, great for melee only missions

Sure do, and the bubble bug

and warp charges all dropping off at once, from 6 stacks to 0 if u didnt brain burst every 20s

[queen fog]

Yeeep, good times

I’ll go on steam rq to pass my actual hours, less guessing y’know

Thank u mobile steam

[wind spruce]

I'm at 2600 haha

But tbf I leave the game logged in a lot when I'm not playing

So who knows what the real number is

That's why I like the true level mod

[queen fog]

Valid I don’t got mods on mine but I do got some friends that do got it

One of ‘em said my vet had like 3 times base max trust level cuz of how many matches I played with em lol

[wind spruce]

No doubt

He probably means u were at true level 100 or so

I'm at almost 600

[queen fog]

Bravo to you battle brother, ur weapons are practically molded by heretic blood by now

[hushed egret]

according to xbox stats, my total time is at 15 days

I play Xbox so I've only had since it hit game pass, but it's been a blast

[marble crater]

Hey siblings, can someone explain quell canceling?

[queen fog]

I’ve asked the same question in the past sibling, I’ll scroll up to find a video that helped me

[queen fog]

Here you go! #psyker-class message

[marble crater]

Thank you

[queen fog]

No problem sibling enjoy ur psi-bolt machine gun

[empty shuttle]

@queen fog do we need to modify this?

[queen fog]

The broski in #zealot-class gave some solid advice

Since only 1 of those perks can work with the staff I.e the crit one id 1st swap out ranged weak spot for a armor damage one

[analog agate]

Yes. By stripping it for flurry 4 and getting a better staff.

[cold elm]

mk5 illisi

[cold elm]

^

[cold elm]

unfortunately hadron screwed me by giving it a tier 2 blessing and a tier 3 blessing. i had to change it :/

[frozen elk]

Hello, what are the usual top perks for a purgatus staff ?

[marble crater]

Flak/maniac/crit chance

[midnight jolt]

Depends on the bleesings you go for:

[frozen elk]

Thanks

[marble crater]

I don't run crit and I feel like the crit from talents and Nexus is enough to still melt everything

[frozen elk]

How does the crit work btw ? I suppose it doesnt affect the burning damage ?

[midnight jolt]

it adds more soul blaze stacks

[frozen elk]

Ah nice

[fair spruce]

OI

PSUCKURS

[latent hill]

Yes okri?

[fair spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/kids-in-the-hall-head-crusher-im-crushing-your-head-mark-mckinney-gif-21194905

DISSIS WOTCHA LOOK LYK BURSTIN EADS

[latent hill]

I mean, I don’t really use brain burst

[fair spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/catharsis-canada-canadian-comedy-second-city-gif-14152752

[marble crater]

Thank you, sweet brute

[long wharf]

oh man, I haven't seen Kids in the Hall in forever

loved that group

[fair spruce]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/735819155608961044/1077969489745956994/OGRYN.gif

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[long wharf]

"My pen! My pen! Somebody stole my pen!"

my all-time favorite KitH skit

https://tenor.com/view/kids-in-the-hall-bruce-mcculloch-my-pen-gif-21375913

[feral verge]

No need for crit chance on purga staff

As a perk

[fair spruce]

criticals just lay two stacks of blaze

[feral verge]

You will feel the damage perk more

[fair spruce]

it is at best a gimmick

cuz the enemy is either dead before the stacks tick enough to matter

or has so much health you're already cruising at max stacks like fighting a wow raid boss

[feral verge]

Crit Chance as a perk isn't bad on the staff, but only if it's locked in

[midnight jolt]

void staffs?

staves*

[fair spruce]

I was talkin about purgatus

void, crit is king

[midnight jolt]

I know, I was asking

[fair spruce]

pack on surge

each crit fires two things

cuz it affects your charge up

then get headshots reduce peril

suddenly you're firing two charged bolts

that both crit

with almost infinite penetration

and each headshot reduces your peril by twelve

then crit and crit damage for perks

minmeme maxmeme

then, and stay with me here

download weapons customization mod

go to your void staff

and instead of stupid psucker snivlur stuff

fit a double barreled shotgun on the end of the shaft

[long wharf]

crit chance on purge staff helps you get to max stacks more quickly

[feral verge]

yeah

it's not bad

[feral verge]

however

if the choice is available

i would take 2 damage perks every time

on purga

[fair spruce]

you now have an actual Ash vs. the Evil Dead boomstick

that fires boomstick rounds

[feral verge]

like on this staff

i would remove crit chance and swap it for maniac

[fair spruce]

sure. the question then becomes how long is the thing alive for, with max stacks

if it helps you get from 8 to 10

but 8 woulda killed it in the time it takes oyu to recharge and let loose a second time

the effectiveness of the stack increase gets diminished

[long wharf]

if 8 kills it in that time, 10 kills it even quicker

[fair spruce]

valid

just saying decreasing returns

[long wharf]

especially since the difference between 8 and 10 stacks is significant

[fair spruce]

personally I like hipfire while sprinting on purge staff

[long wharf]

you're still on the escalating damage part of the soulblaze damage curve there

[fair spruce]

you can waft methane taco bell farts at a whole hallway while sprinting past th3e things you just staggered

then turn around and get em knowing nothing else can engage you

rather than firing down the hallway into incoming fire

[long wharf]

if you're just farting on things as you run by, you aren't stacking enough soulblaze to kill things quickly

[fair spruce]

noep

you're jostling them as you scoot past

so you can find the end of the enemies and turn around to lay into em

[long wharf]

my biggest issue with purge is that it takes time to kill things

[fair spruce]

ikr

[long wharf]

purge only feels effective on damnation+

[fair spruce]

were wun butun mishin finsh

I get your point tho

I've been seeing some psuckers do something fucky with smite and surge together

[long wharf]

and when the enemy density is that high, you don't typically have room to fart on things as you run past in order to turn around further on to re-engage

[fair spruce]

I see the lightning change colors or end suddenly and then there's red mist everywhere

[long wharf]

you're always better off properly engaging and killing as you go

[fair spruce]

someone figured out a new hotswap thing or some other gimmick

I say it's fucky and a gimmick

because they know how to do it and I don't yet

so it needs to be fixed

until I learn and make a decision on whether actually it's an intrinsic part of the game *don't you take this from me you fucks *

[midnight jolt]

fair enough, would you keep the crit on the void staff right?

[feral verge]

on a surge/warp nexus void staff, yeah probably

[long wharf]

I wouldn't

[midnight jolt]

My dreams have come true, I can finally use a gun 😂 jk

[long wharf]

because you should be using True Aim from the talent tree

and with that, you're critting a lot

the 5% perk becomes redundant, and you're better off with either +10% elite damage or another armor perk

[midnight jolt]

there aren't enough talent points 😦

[long wharf]

if you're using void, you absolutely should make the effort to get True Aim

it's a massive DPS gain across the entire mission

[midnight jolt]

alright, removed kinetic resonance and emphatic evasion, that did it

[long wharf]

if you're just using void as a backup ranged weapon, well, then okay, I guess

oof

mind if I see your talent tree?

[midnight jolt]

where can I do the thing to generate the command for discord?

[long wharf]

you could instead use the gameslantern build editor

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[midnight jolt]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b17c73e-e385-4a4f-aaf3-51e8c5c51bf6

[long wharf]

is your intended focus using void?

[midnight jolt]

yeah

for now

BB is occasionally when under fire

kinetic resonance is such a good skill

[long wharf]

meh

[midnight jolt]

now for double wall shields it will be missed

[frozen elk]

Thanks for the infos on purgatus earlier

I'm using this for now

[feral verge]

yw

[feral verge]

get rid of terrifying barrage

it is useless

all staves already supress

[midnight jolt]

yeap, literally anything else

[feral verge]

i would take literally any t1 blessing over terrifying barrage 4

that's how useless it is

[frozen elk]

ok, I'll try something else then

[feral verge]

warp nexus

is the 'meta'

and warp flurry

[frozen elk]

I though it was the blessing that was causing the suppression around me but if it's not necessary

[feral verge]

you can set any enemy on fire and boom they are supressed

[frozen elk]

I find it kinda useful when surrounded ^^

ok

[feral verge]

i have 1.6k hours, msot of them spent on psyker, with purga staff

trust me

terrifying barrage is useless

never use it

[hard widget]

do you take pc with purge staff though

[long wharf]

I have over 900 hours

[feral verge]

it doesnt even supress all enemies

it supresses some ranged enemies (not all of them)

[frozen elk]

what's pc ?

[long wharf]

Perilous Combustion

[feral verge]

i heard that kills with only purga staff dont benefit perilous combustion

however, i still run it

for BB and deimos kills

[long wharf]

purge procs PC

[hard widget]

I can drop pc for empathic evasion, considering it for purge staff

[long wharf]

if you want survivability, get EE

[feral verge]

empathetic evasion is good

[long wharf]

otherwise, keep PC

[feral verge]

but i dont find that i need it

[long wharf]

best option is to get both

[feral verge]

my build has so much toughness regen

where i just dont feel threatened that often

so i take PC

[long wharf]

the problem with going into Warp Siphon is that it's expensive in terms of points spent

going full Warp Siphon means sacrificing above it

[marble crater]

It is, sadly

[long wharf]

@midnight jolt if your void staff isn't using Transfer Peril, I would switch Quietude for Soulstealer

also, in the Warp Siphon area, I always recommend against Essence Harvest

with a surge+nexus void staff, you'll get more out of Inner Tranquility

that's -24% peril generation you're missing out on

[midnight jolt]

Fixed, thanks !!!

[long wharf]

yeah, shame you don't have one more point to shuffle around

that last WS node, Warp Battery, is +8% damage for the 2 warp charges

[midnight jolt]

Can we agree we need one or two more talent points? 😂

[long wharf]

and another -12% peril generation

honestly, the psyker tree is pretty good

if we had more points, I think we'd start seeing every build taking the same nodes everywhere

[marble crater]

Make it 5 more points, my zealot can make really good use of them

[long wharf]

the tree right now has us making tough decisions about how we play

which is how it should be

[midnight jolt]

fair enough

[marble crater]

Trying to be the emperor huh?

That's heresy

[upper sun]

no who said that?

[long wharf]

show a cutscene with your main psyker in a kitchen, pot boiling over, pair of empty boots and a dismembered hand on the stove top

[upper sun]

ill hunt them down

[upper sun]

chainsawman ending but with my psyker

[long wharf]

yup

fridge door is ajar, and you see numerous containers in it

[midnight jolt]

I can't give up on emphatic evasion, even with guaranteed crit I feel like I'm doing enough damage,
I'm almost carrying with this beast, look at this beaty, made today, all I need is warp nexus 4 and crits will be produced in mass 😂

and to be certain I just played a damnation normal game

[upper sun]

if the emperor can eat people to keep a space highway open why cant i eat people to kill space demons? my job seems more important

[long wharf]

interesting that you chose to go with Warp Nexus

the two meta builds for void staff are flurry+transfer peril and nexus+surge

[midnight jolt]

I don't have many blessings yet

[marble crater]

https://tenor.com/view/rsx4-gif-21328683

[long wharf]

to reduce the emperor's efforts to "keeping a highway open" is... wow.

📲

[upper sun]

i have deflector 3 and warp nexus 4 thats pretty much it

[midnight jolt]

with your skill tree fix (less peril) it should be less of a problem 😉

can make something out of this?

[long wharf]

an axe

[feral verge]

taxe is one of the worst weps in the game

[midnight jolt]

even the tactical? but ... listen ... it looked cool on someone skilled

[long wharf]

especially for psyker

[feral verge]

taxe refers to tactical xe

axe

caxe? that is combat axe, which are really good

taxe? bad

[long wharf]

caxe were one time the meta

then we got the new force swords

[upper sun]

maaaan i have transfer peril AND warp nexus 4 i have two halves of the meta 😢

[midnight jolt]

the atheneum needs fixing, it says they not bad

[long wharf]

they're not bad in and of themselves

just bad compared to the alternatives you have access to

[midnight jolt]

fine, I'll keep poking heretics like a witch hunter

[upper sun]

yerr thats pretty much it for void

[long wharf]

just gotta keep pulling the slot-machine lever

[upper sun]

yup

[midnight jolt]

my baby

[upper sun]

blessings cross between all force swords right?

[marble crater]

Yes

[wind spruce]

Drop shred for riposte, it's much better.

6s uptime.

Doesn't drop off if u miss.

Procs off enemy ranged attacks.

Procs off mutie charges, dog leaps, trapper nets, etc

You start engagements with the 20% crit up a lot because of the previous two points.

Don't have to wait 5 whole attacks until it's at max

[upper sun]

reddit spacing

[wind spruce]

Spacing for clarity and emphasis

[upper sun]

should i bother with this guy? kinda regret getting him to transcendent maybe swap crit change and exorcist?

[wind spruce]

The two perks are fine, it's a pity not having flak but you'll live. It won't make a huge difference for trash clear and how often are you really illisi'ing the other flak targets?

It's always nice to be able to switch around both blessings, especially on a force sword which has so many good ones

What build are you aiming to use it on?

[frail harness]

Finally got Shred IV, nice

[tacit stump]

do you think they gonna buff some of the psyker blitzes

[wind spruce]

None of them really need buffs

[tacit stump]

brainburst feels really pathetic

[upper sun]

maybe something with good since i wanna run bb and void staff? idk

[wind spruce]

Brain burst is amazing for killing all specials except Mutants and for taking out gunners. If you're using it on ogryn targets you're doing it wrong

[frail harness]

BB is awesome for sneaking out and hitting a gunner that's far away

[upper sun]

ye im trying it in meatgrinder on t5 4 shots to flak basic enemies

[frail harness]

or sniper

[upper sun]

assail is best for snipers imo

[wind spruce]

Light attacks?

[long wharf]

well

[upper sun]

yes

[long wharf]

if you have the split second to line up the shot, void projectiles are faster than assail shards

[wind spruce]

Ok first thing, the rotation for illisi is heavy 1, light 2, as they are both directly horizontal

Second, you can fix that with uncanny strike

[upper sun]

ye i dont have uncanny yet

[wind spruce]

Fair, but yeah doing H1 L2 will help a lot

Also don't forget the special is great for trash clear

[midnight jolt]

Fixed:

[upper sun]

i do have a weapon with uncanny 3 but idk if i wanna earn an uncanny 3

[midnight jolt]

@upper sun this is my old Illisi, my very 1st crafted sword:

[upper sun]

not bad

I have this but i have no idea what i wanna do with it maybe swap crit and shred?

[tacit stump]

wtf is that design

[midnight jolt]

Change melee critical dmg and maybe shred for riposte or slaughterer

[upper sun]

yeah lemme see what blessings i even have for swords

[midnight jolt]

Shred goes more for faster weapons

[feral verge]

deimos wants exectuor, uncanny strike for blessings

[feral knoll]

Me when I accidentally go 100% peril and I know I’m going down so I just run into the horde

[feral verge]

and maniac and elite/carapce/unyielding for perks

[midnight jolt]

Crit Dmg -> Maniacs, Shred -> What you have? 🙂

[marble crater]

How else would you get your penance?

[wind spruce]

Does executor stack off the special multiple times like uncanny?

[upper sun]

I do have executor 4

[feral verge]

yes

[upper sun]

maybe executor 4 for shred and replace melee damage with either carap or flak

[feral verge]

executor is slept on hard, for deimos

[analog agate]

Heavy sword design

[upper sun]

heavy dueling sword huh 🤔

[wind spruce]

Yeah but the synergy for start of engagements and bosses

But that interaction makes it so worth.

[feral verge]

slaughterer is great dont get me wrong

but shouldnt really be put on deimos

[wind spruce]

Etc

[marble crater]

I sure hope I have exe to put on my deimos then

[midnight jolt]

I'm suffering with 3 stamina instead of HP on damnation, skill issue?

[tacit stump]

thats to heavy for stabbing

[wind spruce]

Yes

[tacit stump]

use a rapier

[feral verge]

i run 3x toughness curios

no exceptions

dont find stam necessary

[harsh urchin]

What melee are you running mank

[feral verge]

usually deimos

[wind spruce]

More stam means less peril generated from kinetic deflection

[feral verge]

i am well aware

i just dont find myself blocking that much

[harsh urchin]

Stam isnt for blocking

[feral verge]

basic KD with no stam is perfectly fine for me

[wind spruce]

Which is totally fair

[harsh urchin]

Stam is for sprintinf

[tacit stump]

what do you think has better hoard clear deimos or mk4 duellist

[feral verge]

idk exactly, but im not using either for horde clear

[wind spruce]

If you're using any staff but surge your staff is your horde clear

[empty shuttle]

What is mk4 good for?

[wind spruce]

Stabbing things with heavies

One shot to every special (although the mutant breakpoint is hard to reach).

Destroys armour

[empty shuttle]

is this one good?

[wind spruce]

Yes

Very

The weakspot damage is actually decent, as it will help that mutie breakpoint

There's a lot better, but it's not totally dead

[empty shuttle]

Also, how can I make this better?

[onyx sentinel]

Patch when

[feral verge]

deflector for uncanny strike

[empty shuttle]

I kinda need deflector for when I am getting swarmed. Thoughts?

[wind spruce]

No one needs deflector

Especially as learning movement techs is more important

[empty shuttle]

Will my beloved pub stack protect me during the horde?

[wind spruce]

Protect yourself, homie

But if you like deflector no hate

It's just a huge crutch for so many people

Even elite players that run it won't utilise it a single time most runs

[empty shuttle]

hmm

[feral verge]

yeah, no one NEEDS deflector

1.6k hours

havnet used in in so many hours

[empty shuttle]

What are the top blessings for illsi and deimos?

[wind spruce]

Dodge slide is just a better, free deflector

[hushed egret]

I fell in love with deflector at like level 20... then I dropped it, got gud, and now ehenver I have it it's merely a convenience

[onyx sentinel]

What breakpoint does uncanny improve for illisi

You probably aren’t using it against maulers and crushers

So why is it so good

[hushed egret]

not at all true. as soon as a bullet hits you, deflector and shield is all you can use to save yourself, or pray they miss for long enough for you to move

[empty shuttle]

what are the top illsi/deimos blessings?

[feral verge]

uncanny strike, executor for deimos

[worn cypress]

theres a few combos

[hushed egret]

gunners are horrible and for that reason deflector is still good, but if you play well it's a last resort more than anything

[feral verge]

uncanny strike + slaughterer for illisi

[empty shuttle]

ty

[wind spruce]

What perks do you like for deimos?

[ornate hamlet]

lol, why is it that nearly every other psyker I end up getting thrown with in Damnation difficulty, holds the team back, literally does nothing of use

Like nearly all of em I see with that biolightning, all they can do is hold left click half the round hahaha

are there just a lot of new psykers after the talent overhaul?

[wind spruce]

Idk man, in auric they are usually good

[feral verge]

manaic is a must

then elite/cara[ce/unyielding

[wind spruce]

just had this lying around

[feral verge]

thats a great one

[sacred crane]

I feel I am the only psyker who uses EP and BB together

[sacred crane]

https://tenor.com/view/hank-gif-21909582

[slow cloak]

are these blesssings ok? is special attack kill the charged strike? should i replace both perks?

[ornate hamlet]

Two free blessings?

A man would need some luck to naturally roll T4 flak maniac

[verbal dome]

not free, this window just doesn't show modifications

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/funny-run-hide-cute-gif-15440141

[verbal dome]

also i'm not alone in thinking blaze force swords (especially V) are crap at dueling chaos spawns?

just in general

[ornate hamlet]

The illisi isn't particularly fitting for that

Obscurus is currently the worst

Deimos just has the annoying problem of L1 and H2 being the actually damaging shit

They do offer the reload button quell, which is a big benefit when you're capping the peril while blocking

[ionic frost]

Deimos H1 got buffed so it's like slightly weaker than L1 on most targets, and stronger on maniacs. Now they just need to give it the same amount of stagger that L1 has.

[ornate hamlet]

I don't want more stagger

[ionic frost]

And maybe give it same damage as L1 against non maniacs.

[earnest laurel]

You mean them holding the horde for you to hit it????????? What is bad with that. I wish I had a psyker doing that.

[lethal lagoon]

That just reduces cleave damage and also causes you to have to potentially put yourself in a bad position to reach the horde.

Smite should never be used to "hold" just trash mobs.

[midnight jolt]

I just buit the one on the left, and have the one on the right at the moment, opinions:

[latent hill]

I’m thinking if you can upgrade the blessing and damage to unyielding enemies you’re good

[earnest laurel]

As if most people dont run into the horde anyway. Especially every zealot main.

[long wharf]

holding a horde that's coming at you still with smite is easily the worst usage of smite

[midnight jolt]

I'm thinking 25% each modifier, and leave the blessings as is

[earnest laurel]

Do you play mostly with premades? Or randos?

[long wharf]

doesn't matter

holding a horde still prevents it from clumping up and feeding into chokepoints

if someone is getting overrun, smite can give them breathing room

[latent hill]

There’s a level 4 uncanny strike you can take

Sides, this thing is a pretty good horde clearer

[long wharf]

but using smite on a horde is a waste of time when you could be killing the horde

[midnight jolt]

do I leave unyealding?

[flint plover]

and if you do use smite on a horde, it should be for like half a second to knock it down, then go kill it

[long wharf]

yep

the problem is - most smite users aren't doing that

they think they're helping the team by locking down the horde

instead of killing it

[flint plover]

can someone explain to me what the +1 jump on Smite means?