psyker-class

[brisk lance]

I kinda figure it's 80% in all three.

Damage, Finesse, and First Target, that is.

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is sick

[rocky raven]

basically maxed 3 tho i think you can slide by with 75ish on first target, 78 on fin or dmg

• good enough roll for both executor/uncanny blessings and at least 25%cara perk to be on ti when done

[brisk lance]

This is the best I've ever rolled (and I've rolled a lot) and it still is only 1060 damage.

Damn, Discord.

Anyway, it's 76, 75, 80.

[left basin]

it's shit sell it on ebay

[brisk lance]

Absolutely bonkers breakpoint to even try for, tbh. I can't think of anything harder except maybe like a perfect Power Sword, and even then... not really that.

[upper sun]

wait wait wait

you can change two blessings?

[brisk lance]

You can change two of anything.

[upper sun]

SINCE WHEN

[left basin]

you need 9000 damije to at least kill poxbursters by running into them

since a long time ago

[plucky flax]

Let me introduce you to getting a perfect blaze trauma (it's impossible)

[upper sun]

damn i thought you could only change one blessing

now i gotta grind blessings extra hard 😢

[brisk lance]

This is mine. It's not perfect, honestly.

@graceful geyser Bot in the chat. See above.

[left basin]

bob in chab

[upper sun]

i want the ranged block on one and the other idk

[plucky flax]

Yeah kinda rip

[brisk lance]

I don't even think Trauma is that useful, honestly. I know, I am gonna get a lot of hate for that, but I just can't make it work and I've got some damn good staves.

[left basin]

firefart trauma is plainly luck and most of it isn't lucky

[midnight jolt]

Slide > Deflector 😉

[upper sun]

also im pretty sure only force swords can block dogs if you time it right

[left basin]

i've had way more fun with zapstaff ventshriek flames

[upper sun]

idk about other weapons

maybe ogryn shield

[midnight jolt]

Duelling Sword special staggers them, then easy kill

[left basin]

sometimes trauma continuously makes the entire map burn but sometimes it's a lukewarm eugh

[upper sun]

ye i need to give dueling another try

[left basin]

which isn't a problem on zapstaff ventshriek which you stack up in a couple of seconds

[plucky flax]

I agree blaze trauma is so bad.

Desperately need buff.

[upper sun]

are all dueling swords the same or is there a meta one?

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/bruh-again-rly-really-gif-24837012

[left basin]

4

[upper sun]

mark 4?

[midnight jolt]

I like your PFP and name

[split oxide]

I stopped using Deflector.
Dome + 3x combatAgilityRegen: 6sec between domes.

[left basin]

i also like them thanks

[midnight jolt]

DS4 is the meta, check the atheneum please, is pinned here 😉

All weapons and meta perks (tier list, etc) are there

great for that kind of information

[left basin]

4 has a pisseasy super damaging heavy stab

[upper sun]

ye thanks

[left basin]

makes mutants cry

[midnight jolt]

yeah, if you time special properly you mess up the ragers and even crushers

[left basin]

i'm a stickler for deimos and it's POWER STACKING AAAAAAAAAA but yeah

[upper sun]

oh wow im getting an energy drink and a notebook

this is like 30 pages

[midnight jolt]

no need, the athenum should be a Chrome tab always opened 😉

just ctrl + F any weapon

[left basin]

i've got this so i stopped caring about melee and just run continuously

😠

[midnight jolt]

Discord media processor is fk-ed

[left basin]

damn you free service provider

[midnight jolt]

They ran out of potatoes

[left basin]

i will try anyways

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/bPlLP.gif

[left basin]

that's incense

[upper sun]

wow!

[left basin]

for pleasing the machine spirit

it has electrolytes

ffs let me post my chainsword again

THIS

[midnight jolt]

now that I think about it, that's a surge PC

[left basin]

._.

that ^

[midnight jolt]

Anyways, somehow I have become a promoter of the atheneum, siblings get out of my head

it should be your 1st source of info

[left basin]

poogix is grate

no joke though i've snatched the zapstaff ventburn stuff off of his guide and never looked back on my GAWDRALL void

[midnight jolt]

I have both with their respective god roll, but they can be better rating wise

[left basin]

as much as i like deleting lines of existence and having more overdamage+damage than the rest of my team combined

zapstaff is just brainmeltingly chill

sideslide zap sideslide zap sideslide zap

all the while you get to spam your vent with fire like every 10 milliseconds

while on void i have to actually aim and hit headshots and sideslide bowling shots are infuriating

[midnight jolt]

Will ask later 😂

it bricked anyways, so no questions to ask

[rare arrow]

salvageable?

[spiral minnow]

do true aim works with purgatus staff?

[zenith vigil]

what's highest level of deflector?

[spiral minnow]

i have 4

[rare arrow]

only void staff can hit weakspots

[spiral minnow]

pity

[left basin]

voibstuf

[rigid island]

tried a new cadia themed outfit on the psyker.

[magic hull]

where do you find that lol i cant find it in the store

[rigid island]

its not in the store. i used a mod to customize it

[upper sun]

emperor be praised finally got a deflector

[left basin]

it's for peopel who bought fatshark premium

[upper sun]

its not bad tbh might just change the stamina and the riposte

[left basin]

avoid obscurus

[magic hull]

damn

[upper sun]

why?

[magic hull]

anyways heres my gold drip

[rigid island]

sweet golden boiii

[left basin]

it fills no roles

it's bad against crowds, it's bad against single targets

[upper sun]

"Obscurus Mk II is the worst one of the three as it has worse horde clear than the Illisi, worse single target damage than the Deimos and shares the animation lock special with Deimos"

oh damn nvm

[magic hull]

isnt obscurus like jack of all trades

doesnt excell in any but does the work

[left basin]

i used to love it because of the hilarious forcesword-molesting animations

[left basin]

i mean it's still a weapon. but no

it suffers from a terrible animation set

[brisk lance]

This is the Purge build I put together because I don't know anything. What should I adjust? I just played a game with it, came in second for damage, first time I've used the staff, got the most kills, but I am obviously still learning the thing. The lack of some kind of range indicator on it is hurting my head a bit. I keep firing and not hitting anything.

[left basin]

it does the work if you talk in terms of whether or not you're able to hit enemies. you can still kill a lot of stuff, but there are wildly better options. unless it's going to get retouched (and i think they will at one point) it's practically gimping yourself for animations

which i find hilarious

the animations are fabulous

[rocky raven]

you want Warp Rider 100%

[left basin]

but it needs a retouch

still, illisi warp masturbation on special is even funnier

[rocky raven]

also recommend moving some of those overkill toughness nodes down to get the addtl 5% CC since crit is your catalyst for DOT stacking, +kinetic deflection

[brisk lance]

Which nodes? I don't have any that I can't skip, unless you mean Quietude because Perfect Timing seems really strong so I can't give up Mettle.

[rocky raven]

you absolutely keep mettle/ PT thats core synergy & toughness regen

[brisk lance]

But then Battle Meditation seems pretty strong due to not having to worry about building too much Peril as a result of it.

[rocky raven]

battle med doesnt really matter; if anything it will mess with your tempo of trying to stay ~80% for warp nexus

high quell speed multiplier 1-2ticks is all you need if that, fit them into your didges.slides etc

[brisk lance]

Can you blow up from Purg like you can, say, Assail? Or can you just keep firing it until it hits 100% and then it will just stop?

[rocky raven]

you referring to primary fire (which you also QC for firerate) or secondary

[brisk lance]

Secondary.

[rocky raven]

its technically possible, but not like mindlessly spamming assail. quite difficult imo

[brisk lance]

Alright.

I still need one point for the 5% CC.

I dropped Quietude and BM.

[rocky raven]

rclick most of the peril is the charge-up, the channel is like 5% ticks iirc

1 sec I'll whip it up with flex options for you to mess with

[brisk lance]

Okay.

[rocky raven]

personal preference; Ive gone both ways on it; if you are playing damn+ you'll always have the stacks restored immediately = more soulburn vents to overstack

and then they die > stacks back with dmg buff

[rocky raven]

whats staff roll?

[brisk lance]

Not great, but okay. Don't have the cash to burn on anything else right now.

[left basin]

twisted firefarter

[rocky raven]

thatll work for now, you got the 2 BPs

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/fight-prodigy-trouble-firestarter-instigator-gif-18793568

[left basin]

wym not great

[rocky raven]

ya wait a min... purg has super small warpres variance you're fine lol

[left basin]

^^^

[brisk lance]

Alright.

[left basin]

you've got more or less of a godroll

[brisk lance]

Keep in mind, I don't play Psyker.

[left basin]

you can now spam it in discord and lie about how you do like 4 times the damage of the rest of the team

[brisk lance]

I literally got my 250 Penance on it done via spamming Orthus with an Columnus SG build because I couldn't find it appealing, but I am trying again.

[left basin]

that's what i'd do at least

*i do

[brisk lance]

Last game I got 1.2k crits, so that was neat.

Never gone that high before.

[mystic burrow]

obscurus is just terrible overall no? like, deimos is just a better obscurus

[left basin]

yes

[mystic burrow]

deimos even has better horde clear due to the higher dmg

[left basin]

not like, terrible terrible. but in comparison to other things - yes

[mystic burrow]

it has decent cleave too

[left basin]

you can do things with it and people swore by it in the olden times. (before illisideimos dropped) but it's obsolete when there's the rest of psyker options

[mystic burrow]

they should just change obscurus special to make it fire a warp blast to deal range damage when u swing

make it a true jack of all trades

not this half-assed jack-of-all trades that doesnt jack-of-all trades better than deimos

[mystic burrow]

had a good one that i decided to just sell after deimos illisi dropped

honestly i just stopped playing it once i got a good combat axe

pre-brutal momentum change ofc

[left basin]

i still have my thrust4 antax

[midnight jolt]

Discord media processor fixed?

[left basin]

yesh

OH

[midnight jolt]

That's my baby

[left basin]

time to show gobrollz again

(i have no idea if it is one)

[midnight jolt]

my purgatus

[left basin]

probably not but running around like an idiot with rev it up is too funy

[mystic burrow]

that's peak meme

[left basin]

to be fair i do get quite a bit of mileage out of it

[midnight jolt]

but is kind of bad

[mystic burrow]

psyker with scriers and defy destiny

https://tenor.com/view/déjàvu-drift-anime-initial-d-car-gif-17211916

[left basin]

stack bleed on fat thing then set it on fire with my fartvent

[mystic burrow]

besides on monstrosities, it'd have minimal effect on stuff that actually matters

[midnight jolt]

you can do that better with a zealot and flamethrower

[mystic burrow]

i mean like crushers

[left basin]

i dont touch other classes

[mystic burrow]

cuz most other things are easy enough to kill just with the rev alone, and the bleed has minimal impact due to that

[magic hull]

hell nah. Purgarus is S tier on High intensity

[midnight jolt]

I have a Zealot and Psyker, I started with Zealot, I was thinking Psyker wasn't for me, now Zealot is my secondary, mostly I play both for weeklies

[mystic burrow]

problem with purg is that it has such a huge lack of range and heavy boi dmg

[left basin]

except for leveling them, ofc

[dawn spoke]

purg will shut down anything but a crusher and has pretty respectable monstrosity damage which most psyker builds do not have

it's rly nice

[left basin]

bugattus is funny

[midnight jolt]

one day I will level the other 2 I don't have to 30 😂

[left basin]

bug spray out of a stick

[magic hull]

your Vet and Zealots will delete crushers better than you do eitherway. Focus on dense hordes and 20 berserkers rushing you

[left basin]

i leveled them all in nov 2022 and then stopped touching them

[dawn spoke]

you say that but I find myself taking care of most crushers with ds4 in anything below auric damnation

people are scared of em

[midnight jolt]

Me poking them with DS4 special and taking care of them

[magic hull]

well teamwork is the name of the game. To be fair, a psyker can only do so much while sacraficing the other.

Voidstrike can help but still

[mystic burrow]

u've gotta kit your build with everything

can never trust pub teammates

[magic hull]

bring BB to deal with crusher. Knife to yeet your way outa there when things go a lil spicy.

[left basin]

i want to get zelit up but

[midnight jolt]

Psyker is superior race, it has to own the responsibility

[left basin]

until i roll a thrusthammer me no wanna

[mystic burrow]

bb for crusher, purg for horde, how do u deal with shooters?

[rocky raven]

you got some flex in what you do with the highlighted nodes, def other options to play with but in general id lean toward elite %aura for soulburn dmg over CD; the 10% from aura here is basically 3sec off the top vs the elite kills from psykinetic/Warp battery

[left basin]

ZAPSTAFF FOR EVERYTHING

[magic hull]

BB and Purge combination. You use Knife to close in on them.

[mystic burrow]

personally i think pairing assail with purg is the better option now, as much as i like brainburst as the og

[magic hull]

then have an elite killing melee like deimos and you should be fine

i use BB to deal with snipers as well

thats why i prefer that more

[mystic burrow]

ye ik that, liek dueling sword or deimos or some shxt

[rocky raven]

my hangup on this is you lose out on the weaving + wildfire/psykinetics/

[mystic burrow]

yea, same here

personally its why i just dislike purg staff now

[midnight jolt]

Still stuck at 117, what am I missing? maybe it got there when I tried auric levels?

[rocky raven]

deimos uncanny/exe pairs very welll for purg

[mystic burrow]

exe?

[rocky raven]

executor

[mystic burrow]

ah ok

[magic hull]

Knife is great though for closing in on shooters due to speed boost. All you need to do is stagger them.

[mystic burrow]

heard that the special can stack multiple uncannies

[left basin]

it does

it fullstacks it

did wonders on orthus

[rocky raven]

stacks uncanny and exe at same time in fact

[mystic burrow]

i see

wow that's cool

yea i'll chase for that

guess no slaughterer

[left basin]

it's still alright, you can keep up stacks easy

[rocky raven]

nah, deimos moveset doesnt make as much sense for a horde mgmt perk

[left basin]

not pre-patch slaughterer but

[mystic burrow]

its just to have it be as versatile as possible

[rocky raven]

tbf if you're running deimos, its for singletarget smackdown because you got something like purg and dont need horde mgmt

[mystic burrow]

i have a purg, but i rarely touch it, i pair other stuff with my deimos

[magic hull]

tbh i find assail rarely useful on some really high intensity maps. maybe because of my playstyle.

[mystic burrow]

could be, it depends

[rocky raven]

kill up to a crusher in 1 spec instead of 2-3 and go deal with next problem, thats your versatility 😉

[mystic burrow]

i've a melee psyker build that really highlights the way people usually use assail

[rocky raven]

post-nerf it needs to be weaved to be viable

[brisk lance]

Thanks

[mystic burrow]

u save up the stacks and only blast them all during an elite horde

like say a group of shotgunners, heavy gunners, ragers

that's the main usage of assail

is to save it for a horde

u can use it outside of hordes as well on like trappers, and what not, but u're kinda wasting it if a perfect situation to use it presents itself afterwards

[rocky raven]

justifying the loss of core top-tier talents on left side tho for occasional specific use-case 3talent investment is also hard to justify imo

[mystic burrow]

not sure about wildfire, but the cd perk is pretty dope

however its still just down to playstyle

[rocky raven]

wildfire would be specific to burn trauma/purg

[mystic burrow]

my melee psyker build runs warp charges, so i've got enough cd with that

[mystic burrow]

ye, exactly, that's why its just "unsure", it depends on context

[rocky raven]

oh forsure, its psykinetics mostly, too good when riding the warp

[magic hull]

some nice deimos spam.

[brisk lance]

Thing is, isn't Empathic Evasion extremely powerful given the sheer volume of crits you will be dealing? Like I mentioned in the last game I did, I managed 1.2k crits, that's... like 18 whole minutes of range protection.

[rocky raven]

so much easier than vet pwsw6 cancelcombo

[mystic burrow]

do u even need to cancel with block when u can just follow up with heavy stab?

[magic hull]

regular stab spam, you can follow up with heavy and block to reset

[mystic burrow]

o yea, right, stab only comes out during opening

[magic hull]

regular ones is way faster tho, deletes enemies rlly quickly

[mystic burrow]

so after the first stab n heavy stab, there wont be any light stabs unless u reset

[rocky raven]

eh, its a "nice to have" imo; positioning >> more dmg output per-talent vs rng reliance for evading a bullet or 2 here and there wins in\ my book

[mystic burrow]

i forgot bout that

[magic hull]

i only use heavy if i want to knock crushers and ragers

[mystic burrow]

depends on the context, what weapon were u using to get those crits, and were there even any range targets

[rocky raven]

purg burn

[mystic burrow]

well, in this context u get those crits from burning hordes

[brisk lance]

Yeah, but I can't see what I am hitting, it's just fire. That's going to be my biggest problem I think - telling how far away I can be to use Purg, versus how far away I can't be.

[mystic burrow]

unless the rangers are behind u, u cant really be hit anyway due to the horde blocking them

[rocky raven]

thats 100% a feel-it-out thing you get used to

[mystic burrow]

i would say that empathetic isnt really worth much except in a few situations

[brisk lance]

I dunno man, I've played a lot of games, and elevated shooters and gunners who have even just a 5 degree inclination is enough for them to shoot over hordes.

[mystic burrow]

primarily it would be the use of columnus

[mystic burrow]

well, its down to u

[rocky raven]

if youre riding high peril, the constant DOT deaths + 33% DR you can just take the occasional shots and go about your day lol

[brisk lance]

And Shriek, are you guys just spamming that whenever literally anything comes within melee range?

[mystic burrow]

• im sure u took toughness regen on warp kills, which provides massive generation in horde @brisk lance

[rocky raven]

no, when you vent over 83% peril, it applies 6 additional burn stacks uncapped + knockback + reaaly long range

[mystic burrow]

if u truly wanna test the effectiveness of empathetic, it would be to go up against a massive group of shooters

[rocky raven]

very versatile > burn down elite pack quicker / vent on 2nd horde wave and forget about them while they die in 5sec / space clear for res etc

[mystic burrow]

only then can u truly see if its useful or not in your build

[rocky raven]

at that point in map, you're prob just way out of position tho lol

[mystic burrow]

i meant like first contact

[brisk lance]

I am just going to mod myself to be very short so they can't shoot over the hordes.

[mystic burrow]

yea making urself as big as possible is a mistake

especially when u realize u cant really use cover well

[rocky raven]

where it kinda falters since its only 1sec, the windows in-between crits cause you to still take stun/slow and some bigger hits will mess with your casting anyway stopping the chain... idk just too much rng for me

[mystic burrow]

so i used to run a columnus build with scriers and defy destiny

[rocky raven]

if pants-down, pull out the deimos and use that kinetic deflection to survive lol

[mystic burrow]

on the way to defy destiny there's the true hit talent which guarantees crit every 5 weakspot hits

[rocky raven]

gunker is a totally different conversation lol

[mystic burrow]

well, i did say that it was most useful on columnus

[brisk lance]

Yeah, even I was smart enough to realize I could just do that.

[mystic burrow]

and maybe shredder, but shredder is kinda weak rn

[brisk lance]

That's how I got 250 missions done on the Psyker without knowing how to play the class.

[mystic burrow]

also assail, every barrage of assail at least has a crit or two

and since it can penetrate multiple enemies u can sorta lengthen it

besides these, most other weapons are too slow to really utilize empathetic well when outside a horde against pure gunners

[rocky raven]

facts

[mystic burrow]

as great as i do think they are, they're just kinda limited by your equipment and build

[magic hull]

idk which purg stick you are using but i usually gauge with the hit marker

[mystic burrow]

what, like red means u hit something, blue means shield ?

oh u mean to know if u're hitting stuff

[rocky raven]

just takes a little playtime to feel it out

[mystic burrow]

u can always just test the waters a bit by left clicking a couple times to make sure u're in range

the left click has good stagger anyways, wont hurt to stagger them first before blasting them

[rocky raven]

go full googlemaps and drop your ping at feet for distance readout lmao

[mystic burrow]

lmao

stay at the perfect distance away from the ping

[rocky raven]

"you have arrived at your destination"

[unkempt marlin]

How
How do I do the penance "not even close"?

I've killed a poxhound with BB while he was running, while he was midair and while he was on top of an ally, but it still didn't register

[rocky raven]

have to pop him while hes mid-jump targeting YOU

[unkempt marlin]

[mystic burrow]

pre charge brainburst

easy peasy

only left click it to pop it when its jumping at u

[unkempt marlin]

Thanksss

[mystic burrow]

if u bring Empowered psionics, it'll make it easier as u wont gain peril while pre charging brainburst with a stack

so u can keep it pre charged indefinitely

u got it

[haughty star]

Serviceable?

[unkempt marlin]

Thank yoooou, just did it :D

[mystic burrow]

congrats

[mystic burrow]

usable

would be best if u get any kind of warp flurry for the last blessing

if u do get warp flurry, switch both perks, weakspot dmg to crit chance

and unarmoured to some other form of dmg, like unyielding/carapace

[midnight jolt]

I get one chance to get a blassing then can change the perks:

or maybe just wait for another

[mystic burrow]

if u can get shred it'd be best

[mystic burrow]

personally i would wait for another

altho decimator isnt bad but with your attack speed with this axe, chances are u'll keep missing attacks and lose decimator stacks

so headtaker is preferable

the 2 perks are kinda bad as well

[midnight jolt]

yeah, that's my reasoning to wait for another

[mystic burrow]

shred/brutal momentum + headtaker(decimator works if u can cope with it) for blessings, for perks u want crit chance/flak/maniac/unyielding/carapace

[midnight jolt]

Brunt trolling:

[mystic burrow]

damn that's sad

good thing about tac axe is that u can rely on its crits to deal similar dmg to basically everything, so any dmg type will work with it

comes down to preference

[midnight jolt]

but fitnesse is so fk-ed here 😂

[mystic burrow]

i mean i aint asking u to buy that one

that one sucks, dont touch it

[midnight jolt]

ah I see

He kind of trolling?

[magic hull]

questionable drip

[mystic burrow]

u look uncanny

https://tenor.com/view/byuntear-incrives-meme-meme-react-gif-25029710

[midnight jolt]

what is the name of that upper piece, it combines well with trader 's hat but I can't find it

[mystic burrow]

penetration isnt really too bad of a dump stat since u rely on crits anyway

[magic hull]

alexa play everywhere at the end of times

[haughty star]

Fireman's Psyker build?

I got one that's nigh perfect for it and i fucking hate axes

[midnight jolt]

My brain took 1 minute to remember the "piece" spelling

[mystic burrow]

no, that's pretty bad

[haughty star]

wyt about purgatus procs the thunderous

[mystic burrow]

???

purgatus procs thunderous?

[haughty star]

all or nothing is meh but

yes

[midnight jolt]

I should try and brick this one 😂

[mystic burrow]

pretty good axe

has potential

[haughty star]

light on fire with purgatus, switch to axe, it's called a fireman's psyker lol i think it's in pins

[austere warren]

I like the ruined copper look.

More interesting than what I've seen most people do.

[mystic burrow]

oh that's what u mean

[haughty star]

yeah the dot procs thunderous

[midnight jolt]

is it bricked already?

[mystic burrow]

lets just be real here, the dmg isnt gonna be anything impressive

[mystic burrow]

mostly bricked

if u get good ones on the last 2, it will be unbricked

but that's kinda asking for too much on hadron

[haughty star]

limbsplitter good for bossing

[mystic burrow]

not that it'd stop be tho personaly

[mystic burrow]

unless u're gonna never use the axe for horde clear, else u better have brutal momentum + headtaker

also, brittle maxes out at 40%, and every thunderous blessings rn only applies 2.5% brittle per stack

its really not that good

despite it saying 5% per stack, it's really just 2.5%, they just forgot to change the description

and limbsplitter for boss dmg is just way too slow

[haughty star]

sounds like a lot of objective coping to me

[mystic burrow]

headtaker easily outvalues it with a few extra swings

it'll instantly be worse than headtaker by the time it comes back from its 3.5 second cooldown

[mystic burrow]

with the help of dmg stim which gives free rending and increased dmg, and the axe with t4 thunderous, and multiple fully charged purge staff blasts and venting shriek, i reached measly 150 dmg per soul blaze tick, with a dps of like 140-150 as the result

just using light attacks with the axe with thunderous itself killed the crusher much faster with a dps of 350

whatever fireman psyker shxt that is, its trash

[haughty star]

bro you literally felt the need to write me an essay about how you feel

[mystic burrow]

i assume u use this fireman shxt on crusher, since everything else can die easily to fire

[haughty star]

[mystic burrow]

man if ur essays are that short, ig u never passed kindergarten

too bad

[haughty star]

yes

jump to insults

next stage in malding

[mystic burrow]

u can keep coping, no worries, i dont suffer

just make sure u dont switch out your fireman build

[haughty star]

i'd say the one that wrote a 1500 word dictation on how they feel about a weapon is the one coping

[mystic burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fireman-stripper-dance-hot-sexy-gif-10864300

[mystic burrow]

cant count too?

sadge

[opaque tendon]

just another day in psyker lounge ig

[haughty star]

i said there IS a build for it you fucking dumbass lol

followed by I DON'T even LIKE AXE

suprised you can write that much but the reading comprehension escapes you

[mystic burrow]

followed by limbsplitter is good for boss dmg

im sure u support the fireman build too with that mentality

[haughty star]

keep malding my guy

[mystic burrow]

plus just being passive aggressive when i talk about the axe to someone else when u "dont like the axe"

[haughty star]

ez clap

[midnight jolt]

Next Psyker outfit and emo 😂

[mystic burrow]

only people clapping are the people at your funeral

[upper sun]

ugh only slop in the store

[haughty star]

Oof. You big mad, ain't ya soyboy

[mystic burrow]

sure, u know everything bout me right?

[haughty star]

cope and seethe

ez clap

[untold niche]

2 peepol which names i don't recognize calling each other coping
im just waiting for a regular to give their objective take on which is better so i can take notes

https://tenor.com/view/perfect-popcorn-michael-jackson-gif-26271837

[mystic burrow]

u dont recognize me?

im sad

[upper sun]

siblings please we are not enemies!

[mystic burrow]

he thinks limbsplitter combat axe is good for boss dmg

[left basin]

all shit get an ius

for that chud action

[haughty star]

https://tenor.com/view/baby-crying-baby-crying-gif-5943733

[mystic burrow]

he cant admit he's wrong so all he can do is claim im mad

🤷‍♂️

[haughty star]

i never said i was right or you were wrong

you just malding and it's funni

[mystic burrow]

lol, yea the guy giving his take is malding apparently

ig anyone that disagrees with your opinion is angry

its ok, psykers are usually delusional anyways

[haughty star]

if they acting big angy they are

[mystic burrow]

ig u chose that dreaming dude

[haughty star]

which you are

you insulted me and wrote a fucking essay about how wrong i am for saying opinions are objective

you are textbook definition

malding

and it's sad

[mystic burrow]

lmao where did i act angry?

[haughty star]

also hilarious for everyone but you

[mystic burrow]

these are just straight facts

[haughty star]

gg ez clap

[mystic burrow]

and u just went to "objective coping"

[haughty star]

ez

[mystic burrow]

man u can only type these same words repeatedly huh?

[haughty star]

clap

[mystic burrow]

guess that's how repetitive your life is

[haughty star]

cope

[upper sun]

video games

[mystic burrow]

keep repeating, i'll be off

[haughty star]

seethe

[mystic burrow]

nah, just kids

[left basin]

https://tenor.com/view/mattp-do-you-think-it-funny-gif-21356244

[haughty star]

good luck with the malding

they make creams for that

[left basin]

draw him as soyjak

[rare storm]

meanwhile

Look at this jank ass sniper spot

Fucker was shooting us the entire open area

[midnight jolt]

there is an upper body that has a proper neck, I can't find it !!!

like a shirt neck

I'm obsessed, I need to find it or my peril is going to go to 350%

[rare storm]

whar

[midnight jolt]

I saw it once on my lobby, I should had taken a screenshot

[mystic burrow]

wow, that's, poggers

sniper did a pro gamer move

[upper sun]

psyker doesnt have many good sets tbh

ogryn and zealot have the best stuff imo

[rare storm]

Getting cheeks clapped from heaven

[upper sun]

is clapped gonna be our new inside joke now?

[rare storm]

Still not as bad as vet tho

Everything looks the same lulw

[upper sun]

all vet gear is pretty much less dirty gunner and sniper gear

[rare storm]

There are some nice Pysker gear

[mystic burrow]

i like the new tundra gear

[rare storm]

Yeah the tundra set is pretty aite

[mystic burrow]

save for the astronaut helmet, its ok but kinda weird

[upper sun]

i like the new white set thats pretty much it

[rare storm]

Don't care for the headpiece

But I like the chest

[upper sun]

yeah no helmet

what was it called artesian?

[mystic burrow]

u look like u're going to a casino

first time i saw it i was like "who the fk is this fancy pants"

[rare storm]

Waiting for this set to appear again

[upper sun]

ogryn was the only one with a christmas hat too

[mystic burrow]

biker gang psyker

[zenith vigil]

is blazing spirit maxed at 3?

[upper sun]

not bad

[mystic burrow]

4

[upper sun]

love me some <UNDEFINED ITEM>

[mystic burrow]

undefined item best item

[rare storm]

If you're talking about the one on void 3 is max yes

on force swords 4 is max

[zenith vigil]

yeah this one

on staff

[rare storm]

Ye 3 is max

But you don't really want it anyway

[upper sun]

isnt soul blaze not not the best?

[rare storm]

The crit on a void would do more than what it brings

so you're better off with Surge or nexus/flurry

[zenith vigil]

does staff share blessing?

[rare storm]

Nope

[upper sun]

no

[zenith vigil]

😢

[mystic burrow]

blazing on trauma

[rare storm]

Yeah pretty much the only staff that blazing is good on

[zenith vigil]

i'm making a trauma

[upper sun]

yeah ikno it sucks

i pretty much only have warp nexus on voidstaff

[rare storm]

Is this on trauma?

[zenith vigil]

yes

[rare storm]

Then now all you gotta do is pray for nexus

and you've got a good blaze trauma staff

[radiant blade]

which staff would you prefer? modifier wise

[rare storm]

or at least 2 good perks so you can rebless

[zenith vigil]

spent like 20k plasteel and only see nexus 3 😢

[midnight jolt]

far from this, is had wine + goldish textures but a leather neck, my English isn't that rich to name whatever some jackets and shirts have on the neck part

[rare storm]

oh

I think I got you

Let me launch

[rare storm]

I'd take the first one

54 damage on surge is yikes

[midnight jolt]

it seemed to combine well with the trader's hat

[rare storm]

Game no want load

Game no give u drip

[midnight jolt]

YES

that's the one

[upper sun]

looks like a skyrim retexture tbh

[rare storm]

Ehhh

One of the nicer psyker drips tho

[midnight jolt]

I like it, it somehow hides the stupid cosmonaut neck 😂

but I can't see it on gamepass commodore's

[rare storm]

You gotta wait for it to reappear

[midnight jolt]

seasonal?

[rare storm]

Might take awhile

[midnight jolt]

ahhh

[rare storm]

It reappeared about....... 2months ago?

Might take awhile to come out again

[midnight jolt]

What's the name of the English period on which Bloodborne was based? I wish they add outfits from that period

[rare storm]

Victorian?

[midnight jolt]

yeah

[rare storm]

Pretty niche

But would be cool

[midnight jolt]

My brain is half functioning today 😂

[opaque tendon]

gothic lace frills outfit when

[rare storm]

Sheee this would be sick

But only if fatshark makes the faces of the ops non-dogshit

[errant thorn]

greetings freaks i just wanted to quickly ask before i waste my time, is melee crit psyker a thing rn?

[midnight jolt]

no

[opaque tendon]

eh it's doable but yer a bit squishy.

[midnight jolt]

for melee metas check the atheneum, all recommended weapons are there all with some form of meta builds, is pinned on the channel

[errant thorn]

Awesome thankya

[opaque tendon]

rejecc meta

[rare storm]

I think the closest you'll get to a crit melee psyker would be running scrier + dd with shred illisi

[midnight jolt]

meta is a good place to start for beginners (not saying you, I am for that matter), it helps them understand weapons, etc

[opaque tendon]

makes sense

i just wish scriers + warp charges werent bugged. it could be interesting to have super low cd gaze for peril gen

[haughty star]

melee psyker is so punishing lol

[upper sun]

by the time you get to 30 you should prolly have gotten one copy of each weapon i say try them out and then see if there are builds of the weapons you like

[opaque tendon]

its a bit like columnus 5 gunker. dps demon but lacking everything else

[rare storm]

I don't think it's bugged

I think it's just spaghetti coding with FS not knowing how to implement the cd after it ends

[opaque tendon]

it is. charges dont affect scrier cd

[haughty star]

it's just SO glassy

[rare storm]

wdym

Melee psyker is great

[haughty star]

i have a buddy that just automatically runs VOC vet any time i jump in my scriers/dd build lol

[midnight jolt]

https://tenor.com/bJcRM.gif

we need melee blaze to add crit chance to the base weapon dmg

[haughty star]

it's like literally about as hard as it get's for melee wyt about

yes it is great lol

but it requires great focus

[errant thorn]

this is not a flex fyi, but i really have loved doing high toughness/reduction with a powersword on my vet and ive solo's mauler/crusher/rager hordes

cant on my zealot

[haughty star]

there's no huge source of regen on psyker

[errant thorn]

which is why i asked

[rare storm]

Melee pysker is great, it feels better than zealot for me

[haughty star]

again it is great

[haughty star]

but glassy as hell lol

[rare storm]

one example

[midnight jolt]

duelling sword special attack, try it on them, you wil love it

[haughty star]

we don't need video examples loil you ain't proving that it's not delicate lol

[rare storm]

Just play better

that's all there is

[haughty star]

you can't tell newer players somethings great cuz your gamer chair reeks of this game lol

[midnight jolt]

from the atheneum:

[rare storm]

Nothing is "great" for new players

[haughty star]

great would include survivability not insane melee skill

[rare storm]

There's a reason why people play games

What are YOU on about mate

If you're inherently already great at a game from the start

It's immediately boring

[haughty star]

melee psyker is hands down the hardest melee build in the game to play lol i don't know why you're arguing just to argue

that's all i said from the start and you can't discount that, because it's true lol

[rare storm]

From my conversations with you in the past days, you're the one always unecessarily hostile

So

I won't even bother lmao

[haughty star]

i mean you just tryna argue that melee psyker isn't hard, and "jUsT pLaY bEtTeR"

[rare storm]

[haughty star]

maybe if you wouldn't sound like a elitist conceited prick people wouldn't be hostile to you XD

[rare storm]

[haughty star]

sorry most peoples gamer chairs don't smell like yours lol

[rare storm]

Considering almost every conversation towards you have led to "arguements" as you deem it

I don't think we are the issue if you're the common factor

[haughty star]

na bro ez clap

[rare storm]

ez clap

[haughty star]

ggez

[midnight jolt]

There is general consensus and the fact that skills and difficulty are subjective, some builds and statements are generally accepted while others could be a beast in the right hands, what do I mean? there is no need to be right or wrong so both, hold hands and chill 😂

[rare storm]

If it's skill issue just say skill issue mate

[haughty star]

it just irritates me with this discord cuz you havve like a handful of players that have eat shat and slept on this game since launch that just run around claiming everything should be easy and act like it always was to them lmao

[rare storm]

idk sounds like skill issue to me

[haughty star]

sounds like a lack of touching grass to me

[rare storm]

idk sounds like skill issue to me

[haughty star]

mad cuz swassy

[long wharf]

sounds like you two need to get a room already

"now kith"

[haughty star]

melee psyker is hard

[rare storm]

been trying to but he rejecting my advances

[haughty star]

end of story lol

[rare storm]

[haughty star]

there's nothing to contest there

[long wharf]

hard in what way?

[haughty star]

it glassier than any other char specced out to melee main

[long wharf]

that's true

but psyker can also dodge more easily than the other classes

[tame venture]

I have really strange luck with knives. i literally bought 5 from brunt, and rolled this, and it's pretty much as good as it gets, no?
compared to my old one which was literally the first one i ever rolled.

[haughty star]

that's all i said and he just runnin around with the usuall skill issue nonsense that plagues this discord lol

[midnight jolt]

Melee Psyker can be hard for people that haven't played lots of melee games, I don't struggle with it, as a Sekiro veteran it feels easier for me, but ... it doesn't mean it isn't hard

[tame venture]

weak spot to maniac, and smackdown to flesh tearer, yeah?

[haughty star]

it's still objectively harder than any other class

[long wharf]

I don't know any knife enjoyer that uses Smackdown

[tame venture]

yeah that's unmodified

[midnight jolt]

yes, you have to play almost perfect, two hits and you are done

[long wharf]

and Flesh Tearer always struck me as a poorer version of Lacerate

[midnight jolt]

or one

[long wharf]

I'd rather bleed on every swing than rely on a crit to cause bleed

especially since Lacerate 4 takes two swings to get 8 bleed stacks

[tame venture]

well the guide suggests:
S Uncanny Strike
A Flesh Tearer, Riposte, Mercy Killer (with bleeds)
B Executor
C Lacerate, Ruthless Backstab, Precognition, Haymaker
Garbage Smackdown

[long wharf]

that said... I am not really a knife enjoyer

whose guide?

[haughty star]

as a melee main for psyker while the glassiest it's hands down one of the funnest if you on tho. haven't specced out into anything else on psyker yet tho cuz i wanna perfect my gear for it first

[tame venture]

Lacerate is not bringing any proper value on Psykers as we have nothing that scales with bleeds and the knife does a lot more damage on weak spot hits.

[long wharf]

well, that's fair

[midnight jolt]

I have a DS4 with shred and uncanny strike 😉

[long wharf]

I don't think of psyker as a proper knife user, either

[tame venture]

#psyker-class message

the psyker anthem

[long wharf]

oh, Pygex added knife usage to the Atheneum

[haughty star]

im going for illyses with uncanny and slaughterer

i have uncanny and unstable on it rn and it's okayish

[midnight jolt]

I'm trying to have every fast weapon that can combo well and is fun so I can vary

[long wharf]

honestly, if I see a psyker with a knife in a PUG, I just assume they have no idea what they're doing

I prefer dueling sword mk4 for when I want to go faster

[midnight jolt]

I may not go for knife but there is tactical axe for example

[plucky flax]

Sometimes I play knife. Sometimes ds4.

[haughty star]

yeah the ds4 seems based as hell if im being honest

[plucky flax]

They serve similar purpose to me. Knife gives better monster damage. DS4 better crusher damage.

[haughty star]

illyses so based for general purpose tho

[tame venture]

knife feels like a more reliable mobility stick ngl

[zinc phoenix]

Empathic evasion feels kinda busted with trauma

So long as something is near you’re in the clear lmao

[rare storm]

I've not seen anyone say they're a melee main on psyker but glassiest

[plucky flax]

Does it? I don't run ee on my trauma.

[rare storm]

Is it considered being glassy if you can just dodge everything

Or block without stam usage

[zinc phoenix]

You already hitting that crit may as well get infinity range dodge from it imo

[plucky flax]

I don't have enough points.

[rare storm]

Didn't link anything my friend

[wise spire]

Worth buying this from Melk? I haven't used the Illisi at all yet so I'm wondering if this is worth?

[plucky flax]

Can't think of what I can drop on my trauma build.

[wise spire]

There we go. Lol

[mystic burrow]

not worth

[rare storm]

Ehhhhhh if you have nothing better at the moment ie a straigh up upgrade in stats... Sure

But otherwise no

I'd consider it bricked

[haughty star]

sometimes dodge isn't a option my guy. melee psyker has some of the worst toughness regen options and one or two hits to the tiny health pool and you dead

this is all i was saying from the start

be eliteist and cry skill issue all you want it contests nothing i said lol

[rare storm]

You can dodge even standing still

This is a game TO dodge if anything

just spam spacebar if you're complaining for new players and it works out

[long wharf]

this is because psyker has better toughness gain built around peril

[mystic burrow]

just play melee psyker with illisi

[rare storm]

You can even regen toughness BY blocking

[wise spire]

Okay thanks. If you wouldn't mind. What's the ideal setup for the Illisi?

[long wharf]

unless you're generating and quelling peril regularly, you aren't going to feel like you have toughness gen

[mystic burrow]

flak maniac for perks, slaughterer uncanny for blessings

[rare storm]

If you want a simple template to follow you can use this

[mystic burrow]

but its honestly really flexible for blessings

[rare storm]

From the pinned atheneum

But yes, you can basically run whatever on illisi

But I'd avoid blazing rn

[long wharf]

if you to feel like your toughness rarely goes down in melee, play with an Illisi with kinetic deflection, deflector, the quell on weak spot hit blessing, and the toughness gain on peril gen and quell nodes

[mystic burrow]

yea i forgot bloodthristy is a thing, only useful on illisi

[zinc phoenix]

ikr? im giving up perfect timing for it but imo the ability to ignore gunners while booming crushers is worth it

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9b15a47e-2d30-4de2-bd55-a437ebb32380

[midnight jolt]

this is very true, I spam dodge sometimes, but you have to enable certain options:

[zinc phoenix]

but like if i had two more points perfect timing in a heartbeat

[long wharf]

EE is one of the best nodes in the entire tree

especially if you intend to be critting often

[mystic burrow]

basically it depends on your equipment and build

[long wharf]

everything always does

but getting free range dodging for 1s whenever you crit is noticeable

[wise spire]

I enjoy Blazing Trauma Staff because played well you can borderline ignore the Melee half of the gameplay lol.
Blaze Trauma, Venting Shriek, Brain Burst is my main Psyker setup.

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like soulstealer is too good at toughness gen when surrounded to give up along with wildfire for perfect timing

And quietude is just idk I feel like I couldn’t play right without it

[long wharf]

wildfire has nothing to do with crits, though

[haughty star]

wow someone experienced helping rather than saying skill issue, strange and nice to see lol

[mystic burrow]

problem with soul stealer is that it doesnt work too well outside of crowds

[long wharf]

being passive-aggressive isn't going to make people want to engage favorably with you

[plucky flax]

Perfect timing increases damage by a lot. I don't think I can drop it.

[long wharf]

oh definitely, Perfect Timing is nice

[mystic burrow]

ikr, this guy just refuses to admit he's wrong

[haughty star]

same with being elitist tbh and forgetting the time people spent working up to where they at

[long wharf]

my comment was more about Wildfire

[untold niche]

what does EE do again

[mystic burrow]

stop with the victim mentality

[midnight jolt]

I have been playing for 10 days, take everything I say with a grain of salt, but I'm also "old" 😂

[rare storm]

There's nothing elitist about anything bruv, you're just taking everything personally like a kid

[zinc phoenix]

I’m gonna give up wildfire and warp battery and see how I feel

[mystic burrow]

empathetic evasion, dodge range attacks automatically for 1 second on a crit hit

[long wharf]

why warp battery?

[haughty star]

ah here's the insults again

you and @mystic burrow must be besties

[plucky flax]

Not wildfire nooooo

[rare storm]

Again, taking everything personally

[hasty breach]

psyker chat is bad for this

[haughty star]

text book malding

[hasty breach]

tbh

[untold niche]

i think i dropped that because on voidstrike i don't feel it as often

[mystic burrow]

yep, it happens on most staves

[long wharf]

I could see there being a small bit of utility with Wildfire for blaze trauma, but there are honestly better nodes to get

[mystic burrow]

u charge too slow for it to be useful when u need it

[hexed geyser]

We don't want your petty little fight in here, get out to clean the chat

[untold niche]

i think if its like 3 seconds with half a second cd i would take it

[mystic burrow]

unless u're being nailed by gunners behind your back while shooting voidstrike at a horde, u wont feel it

[untold niche]

do you get suppressed with EE?

you do right?

[plucky flax]

Wildfire in my top 5 talent.

[mystic burrow]

that'd make it too broken, its meant to be paired with machine guns or assail

[mystic burrow]

nope, u dont

[untold niche]

wildfire fanboy

[long wharf]

yikes

[mystic burrow]

when its activated u dont get suppressed

[rare storm]

You're basically immune to anything that "shoots" with EE proc-ed

[long wharf]

you're passively dodging ranged attacks when EE is active

[rare storm]

The best use with it, is EE on purg

[plucky flax]

Fuck me for playing how I want

[long wharf]

that includes not being suppressed

[rare storm]

Where gunners are just shooting bubbles at you

[long wharf]

yes, for shame on you

[untold niche]

hmmm

[untold niche]

never said you can't
but on my end i can laugh at you

[plucky flax]

Doesn't matter still top 1%.

[midnight jolt]

@haughty star in my experience (30+ years playing video games and more in life), don't take anything any random say personally, I ask stupid questions and do my research, I do have skill issues from time to time, coming up humble leaves no room for anyone (if there is someone) trying to mock you or anything, so, just try to move on, and the other party, chill, bro, stop teasing too 😂

[untold niche]

u only take wildfire to see dps number go up in scoreboard

[plucky flax]

That's the point of that talent.

[wise spire]

With enough Blast Radius Blaze Trauma really doesn't need Wildfire. Arguably no build needs Wildfire. It's just a bad Talent generally. It's fun to see the fire spread but that fire will never kill anything and hardly does anything noticable.

[plucky flax]

It increases your burn damage by like 30%.

[untold niche]

yeh but is it meaningful damage?

[mystic burrow]

30% is quite the big number to be fair

[plucky flax]

Trust me I've ran wildfire since 2022.

Wildfire never failed me.

[mystic burrow]

only u failed wildfire

[plucky flax]

[long wharf]

wildfire is not increasing your total burn damage by 30%

[mystic burrow]

its always your fault

[long wharf]

that's a really big claim

[plucky flax]

I have proof
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PRiD-sWsNQ

[long wharf]

I didn't say that you weren't doing soulblaze damage

but that Wildfire isn't a significant contributor to your total soulblaze damage

[midnight jolt]

Warp Syphon and Warp Battery question, you get initially max 4 warps leading to 16% extra dmg, so adding warp battery potentially increases that to 24%, is my assumption correct?

[long wharf]

what the hell is the music in the background?

[plucky flax]

One of the most based video game ever.

[lethal lagoon]

How much does 1 stack of soulfire do over it's lifespan, anyways?

[midnight jolt]

vibin music

[mystic burrow]

its this dude's boss music

he is the boss

[harsh urchin]

it may be getting misattributed

[rare storm]

I think it's like 4 per tic

[lethal lagoon]

If you have wildfire to "pre-prep" hordes, one tick of blazing spirit will finish them, no?

[viscid matrix]

the guide has the numbers

[zinc phoenix]

I like wildfire and I think it adds value but 😢 I feel like perfect timing will do more more reliably 😭

[harsh urchin]

Like for example if it spreads and applies 1 stack

Then you add 3 stacks

[plucky flax]

Yes I run both.

[long wharf]

I would expect Perfect Timing to be far more valuable than Wildfire

[wise spire]

On the other hand Wildfire would be absurdly busted and probably the best Talent in the game if it worked like the description said. If every soulblaze kill spread 4 soulblaze stacks to every enemy in range it would kill everything. No one else would be allowed to play the game.

[zinc phoenix]

Least bad thing I can cut for two points

[harsh urchin]

Now you're at 4 stacks but it thinks its cuz of wildfire

[midnight jolt]

Go to minute 6 for the vibin part

[mystic burrow]

shxt, now u cant fault him

[midnight jolt]

on the video

[plucky flax]

I soloed a horde + bunch of elites + plauge ogryn.

Wildfire saved my ass.

And a bunch of specials too.

Wildfire incredibly based.

[rare storm]

iirc somebody mentioned wildfire doesn't actually do what it's described as, it spreads 4 sb stacks across multiple enemies or something
ie:
if only 1 enemy, it gets the full 4 stacks

if 4 enemies, the 4 sb stacks splits so that each enemy gets 1 stack each

[long wharf]

I think you're overestimating just what Wildfire is doing for you

[rare storm]

correct me if I'm wrong tho, basing off of somebody explaining it like months ago

So I don't think... wildfire does THAT much

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah it’s definitely fun for that but not having to worry about range is maybe more commonly useful

[long wharf]

so, Wildfire has limitations

[lethal lagoon]

1 stack could absolutely be hitting breakpoints when combined with other sources

[long wharf]

it moves up to 4 stacks off a dead enemy

it will not bring another enemy above 4 stacks

[harsh urchin]

The problem is that it doesnt accumulate stacks

[opaque tendon]

wildfire is based if you're soulblaze focused

[wise spire]

Pretty much correct. But it's worse than even that. If an enemy has more than 4 stacks Wildfire will do nothing.

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't need to?

[harsh urchin]

It can only go down

Cant go up

[long wharf]

and it tries to spread out the transferring stacks

[harsh urchin]

So if all enemies have 3 stacks

[plucky flax]

Hrm but you cc the shooters cluster even if you miss with trauma.

It's hard to properly test ee with trauma.

[harsh urchin]

Its impossible to give more than 1-2

[mystic burrow]

the left clicks never cease to amaze me

[plucky flax]

Machine gun.

[long wharf]

not if you have nexus on trauma

[magic hull]

Auric Damnation but its foggy and game spawns in like 10 sniper at once is truly a darktide moment.

[harsh urchin]

Because you cannot transfer stacks to another enemy unless they have less stacks

[mystic burrow]

your left click only purg staff is still my fav video

[plucky flax]

If you can quell cancel lmb well you don't need to bb.

[zinc phoenix]

I like bb because friggen specials running away

[plucky flax]

Yeah I made that video just for meme.

Don't try it at home.

[harsh urchin]

No like you literally dont understand. An enemy literally cannot get a meaningful amount of WF stacks due to the mechanics

[mystic burrow]

does it out dps the secondary fire?

[plucky flax]

Nope it's way less dps. But it staggers ragers.

And shotgunners.

[rare storm]

I think it does still add stacks to enemies that already have sb stacks, I tested awhile ago in the grinder, with wildfire + perilous, I can add 7 stacks (3 from pc 4 from wildfire) onto 20 stacks of sb to a total of 27

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't need to? It starts with one, get's 3 from blazing, I think the weaker version of basic horde dies from that, no?

[zinc phoenix]

It’s enough to take them down below BPs

[plucky flax]

Right click doesn't stagger shotgunners and ragers very well.

[mystic burrow]

i imagine it'd stagger everything except for maulers and crushers

[zinc phoenix]

Like wildfire definitely underrated

[plucky flax]

It staggers maulers too.

[zinc phoenix]

Esp for trauma

[plucky flax]

Only can't crushers.

[rare storm]

but this is the "perfect" situation so not really that consistent in a run

[midnight jolt]

@plucky flax how do you stun the dogs? block + left click or special?

[plucky flax]

Stun dog what how? You sure it wasn't a push?

[harsh urchin]

Id like to see a control of 5 games without and a experiment of 5 games with

Scoreboards

[midnight jolt]

when you catch them mid air and throw them aside

[harsh urchin]

And lets compare

[zinc phoenix]

😂

Nerd

[plucky flax]

Can you give timestamp?

[harsh urchin]

Or are u just talking outta your ass

Sounds like that lol

[zinc phoenix]

I had my friend Wydon Jablomi do substantial testing on it

[harsh urchin]

Ok show me the data

Or is this an imaginary friend

[mystic burrow]

he makes it sound like a side dodge into a hit/push when a dog pounced

[zinc phoenix]

Read the name slow and you’ll get it

[lethal lagoon]

Unless there's a scoreboard for pysch, there's no meaningful way to really collect any data like that 🤷‍♂️

[zinc phoenix]

He’s Spanish

[midnight jolt]

0:50, I watched it better now, seems like a push, your muscle memory is quite fast at this point

[lethal lagoon]

Would need fatshark's backend

[long wharf]

what a gabroni

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's push attack. Push him back then push attack stab to finish it off.

[harsh urchin]

You can compare dmg attribution to total dmg

[plucky flax]

Veri cool top 1% moment.

[harsh urchin]

As a ratio

[lethal lagoon]

You can, but that varies wildly.

Like try testing PC while playing with two plasma vets

[mystic burrow]

i've been liking that with the new knife

[lethal lagoon]

Worst talent in the game in that scenario

[mystic burrow]

been scoring a lot of dogs that way on my vet

[plucky flax]

Yeah mk6 knife on psyker is so good. Just push attack only and stab stab

[mystic burrow]

what do u run besides uncanny

lacerate ?

no, dont think so, u got trauma

[plucky flax]

Flesh tearer on psyker and vet.

[mystic burrow]

precog?

ah

[midnight jolt]

show me one with DS4 Sensei

[plucky flax]

It's for when I have to deal with monster.

[mystic burrow]

makes sense

[plucky flax]

Since trauma is kinda slow against monster.

[zinc phoenix]

Understatement of the decade

[mystic burrow]

all staves are quite slow vs monsters

[plucky flax]

Well I did kill the plague ogryn with trauma mostly (creeping flames xd)

Just a few minutes of running around in circle. Xd

[long wharf]

hrm

for blaze trauma

[zinc phoenix]

three hours later

[midnight jolt]

what I love about Psyker is that you have to get good at melee, which I love

[long wharf]

I'd much prefer to be at the bottom of Warp Siphon

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma means never having to get good at melee

[rare storm]

I miss unlimited dodge on blaze swords

[lethal lagoon]

No warp charge generation is bleh

[plucky flax]

I am zealot and psyker main. So my melee ability is 👌

[wise spire]

So I was a little wrong. Wildfire will not bring enemies above 4 sb stacks but it will refresh the duration and consume those stacks from wildfire. So kill enemy with 7 stacks next to 2 enemies, one with 0 and one with 4 stacks. The one with 0 will get 2 and the one with 4 will have the duration refreshed. I assume Perilous procs after wildfire so in that perfect situation you killed an elite with 4+ stacks next to a single enemy. Wildfire transfered first then Perilous added 3 because Perilous doesn't have a cap.

[rare storm]

[zinc phoenix]

I skip battle med

And go one further down warp charge land

[midnight jolt]

I have a Zealot 30 as well, on my 10 days of playing this game 😂

[plucky flax]

I also came from vt2 with nearly 1k hours there.

[zinc phoenix]

I always have plenty of quell

[plucky flax]

So I was already used to FartShart melee gameplay.

[zinc phoenix]

That is a solid reason to ditch ee

[rare storm]

Ehhhh sound's about right

[zinc phoenix]

Refreshing burn is very good

[midnight jolt]

VT2 I'm waiting for their next sale to get everything, I don't want to pay €94 for their whole content

[rare storm]

rip ee

[viscid matrix]

Dump the peril toughness, grab the 2 warp charge nodes to reach the end, grab toughness on warp charge gain if you need toughness

[midnight jolt]

I regret not playing VT2 in the past

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve been thinking about going back to vt2 for some necro Sienna action

Zombeh eh eh eh

[long wharf]

yeah, I originally had that, and then I thought "but what if I need to block?"

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't understand what VT2 was from the ads and ignore it 😦

[midnight jolt]

but the good news is that while some of you suckers will be starving for games, VT2 will be a new experience for me 😂

[rare storm]

The necromancer got me wanting to go back ngl

[rare storm]

You can play it anytime

[untold niche]

will they nerf psword and the pfoom pfoom gun for vet?
every vet is running that and it seems OP

[rare storm]

It's still a good game

[zinc phoenix]

It’s about 4, no 5, meh it doesn’t matter, kooky friends out on the town

[viscid matrix]

You block then quell between blocked hits?

[zinc phoenix]

Only took em a decade to add a sienna class

[long wharf]

or, with trauma, you just quell for a split second and then blast everything around you on their feet

[mystic burrow]

idk if they'll nerf plasma, but i doubt they'll touch powersword

[rare storm]

Took them awhile BUT THEY STILL DID IT

[mystic burrow]

that dodge range is already pretty trashy

[long wharf]

I really wish FartShack would fix the aiming mechanism for trauma

[zinc phoenix]

The hard part about going back to vt is friendly fire

[untold niche]

it seems so good for how braindead it is to use

[rare storm]

RIGHT that is a thing

Lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I can't imagine farming gear, but chaos wastes seems like a good time.

[untold niche]

it doesn't even take long to charge

crusher weapon takes longer to charge jesus christ

[mystic burrow]

they should consider reworking powersword is what they should do

[zinc phoenix]

Ps kinda needed if you go exe

[rare storm]

It's actually quite a fair bit easier than darktide

Unless they changed anything

I remember it was quite easy to farm gear

[mystic burrow]

power sword needed if go executioner stance?

[zinc phoenix]

Giving up quietude? I’d feel crazy without it. Also soulfire wc bad actually

[mystic burrow]

i dont really think so, i run combat axe with my exe stance revolver

[long wharf]

why? you get the wcs back so fast

[lethal lagoon]

My understanding was that you farm the lowest level, which seems awful lmao.

[long wharf]

In Fire Reborn does not require that you get the kill

[zinc phoenix]

Even faster when 4% from team tho

[long wharf]

just that the enemy dies with soulblaze on them

[zinc phoenix]

B/c sometimes no fire

[long wharf]

but venting shriek ensures lots of fire

on top of what trauma is causing

[wise spire]

Also in a Blaze Trauma build the best options for Monster dps are Bloodletter Chainsword, Duelling Sword 4 headshot spam, and the easiest one everyone forgets is Brain Burst spam. BB spam isn't the quickest but it's 100% reliable and still does decent work. Also works at any range.

[zinc phoenix]

But sometimes no fire 😢

[rare storm]

Honestly it's been so long I actually don't remember now

[vocal cliff]

It's boring but you're not forced into doing low, it's just you may get unlucky teamates

[zinc phoenix]

I just spam emotes

[rare storm]

All I remembered was that there were "meta" missions to farm

[zinc phoenix]

QP is the same fucking missions every time in vt because of the farmers

DT really fixed that blessed random spawns

[untold niche]

@mystic burrow at least revolvo pre nerf and even post nerf its good but you need to headshot
pfoom pfoom gun just aim in general direction and red mist

[mystic burrow]

well, they can nerf it if they want to, i wont disagree with the nerf

[zinc phoenix]

They need to nerf draw time and long range accuracy on plasma

Bolter treatment

[long wharf]

there's no reason for plasma to have any long range accuracy issues

[foggy umbra]

does anyone know if a demon host counts as a boss for malleus monstronum?

[zinc phoenix]

No scope, no sight. What are they even aiming with?

[mystic burrow]

yes

it counts

[foggy umbra]

aight

[long wharf]

the Emperor guides

holy plasma

[zinc phoenix]

Alright so

[mystic burrow]

weakened monsters from maelstrom/auric maelstrom also counts

[zinc phoenix]

People who say toughness curio over health curio for psyker are wrong and bad and I am mad at them

[long wharf]

trying to start another argument?

[mystic burrow]

honestly, they gotta give psykers more base toughness

[zinc phoenix]

Yes

[long wharf]

you smell like cheese

that's my rebuttal