psyker-class

[hot zephyr]

mutants, flamers, bombers, etc are not great purgatus targets

[queen moss]

my money...

never playing the gacha again

[brave fiber]

schmoney is no more

[queen moss]

is what i said

before i did orgyrn

now this happened

looks good

[plucky flax]

Just be rich smh

[hot zephyr]

chefs kiss

[brave fiber]

Only viable complaint is cloud radius, but its fine

[queen moss]

well i dont have gacha cash anymore... i might try that again soon

now to get all the perks for being on fire

[rare arrow]

I have a ton of resources. I’m waiting for a way to use dia

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, it's over 76% burn, your LMB puff-puffs for staggerings crowds will maybe be like 2% weaker with only 66% cloud but it's fine. You won't notice it in gameplay at all

[brave fiber]

I learned that the biggest plasteel waste in this game is rolling for that one specific t4 blessing you want

[queen moss]

wait.. smite or brain pop for this flame build?

[plucky flax]

At least you're not trying to craft a good blaze trauma.

You'd cry then.

[brave fiber]

I’m slowly learning to just take what I can get lol

[rare arrow]

Depends on what else you’re taking

[hot zephyr]

General advice is BR because purgatus is short ranged.

[rare arrow]

Though I don’t like smite + purg

[queen moss]

got it, i assuma with shield also cause i have no range?

[rare arrow]

Purg and smite essentially do the same thing, so I’d take BB or assail to add some ranges

[brave fiber]

(Also proccing BR with purg with that one br upgrade is occasionally very nice)

[plucky flax]

Run what you want but creeping flames is very good with purga.

[rare arrow]

That’s your call, venting + crewing flames is huge horde damage

[brave fiber]

purg with emp BB and dome is the way tho

Fun build

[rare arrow]

But without bubble you do have to position better

[hot zephyr]

Typical purgatus build is something like this:

Idea is to use shriek to dump peril and build stacks, so you can almost be constantly RMB charging and pumping out flames

[rare arrow]

I’d do something like BB/Venting/EP

[queen moss]

oh seers?

[rare arrow]

I’m not a fan of warp rider though that will give you a lot more Venti gs

Venting

I just don’t like BB without EP

[brave fiber]

Purg doesn’t work incredibly well with warp charges I feel, the dmg buff basically doesn’t exist and you really don’t need the peril reduction, you’d only really want it with vent

[hot zephyr]

you don't want the damage buff, you want the cooldown reduction for shriek

[rare arrow]

It’s for the venting cool down

Yea that

[plucky flax]

[brave fiber]

see: the last thing i said

[queen moss]

hmmm

thanks for all the advice guys

[rare arrow]

You didn’t say anything about CDR?

[queen moss]

let run this and get boddied by a 5 man group of big fuckers with hammers

[upper sun]

me before grinding warp 4

[hot zephyr]

The peril reduction also works very well imo. You don't want warp battery tho cus you'll never build 6 stacks before venting again

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames purga left click only top shooters killed xd
https://youtu.be/vx7DY17ZUtU

[brave fiber]

well it’s implied

Figured people know the psyker passives by now lol

[upper sun]

we have passives?

i just click stuff

[brave fiber]

Talent passives mb

Also unrelated but that one purgatus build on YouTube that takes run and gun still haunts my dreams

[rare arrow]

You might with the second to last talent in that tree

[plucky flax]

(Play blaze trauma it's a much better purga)

[upper sun]

i remember playing with a friend that just got the game after we got him to level 14 "I HAVE TALETS?"

[queen moss]

lets give this a shot

[brave fiber]

counterpoint: I wanna use a flamer but not play zealot

[upper sun]

sick dueling sword

[plucky flax]

[queen moss]

one for poking big bois, and flame the living fuck of everything else

[upper sun]

what blessings do you have on it?

[plucky flax]

When there's a purga psyker on the team while I use my blaze trauma. I steal all of the other guys soulblaze

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, with the exception of boss damage, that is, or at least how easy it is to maintain it with Purgatus

[hot zephyr]

Fair, you can debate how far into warp siphon you really want to go. I just posted my build that works for me. there's a few play points to move around tho. For instance, some folks like wildfire or having Kinetic Resonance for throwing a few BRs after a shriek

[plucky flax]

Tru I pretend I don't see the monster and let teammates take care of it

[brave fiber]

Fatshark needs to be bold and make purgatus soulblaze stacks higher for boss meltage

[vestal fulcrum]

OK, fair, this is what I also do frequently

[plucky flax]

Usually I'm like "you guys take care of the monster I go hold the horde!"

[rare arrow]

Yea I don’t actually take the 6 stacks point. Mostly cause there is so much else I want

[vestal fulcrum]

I certainly would rather deal with horde/specials on any non-gun setup

I sometimes can take boss aggro and stick a couple H2 Deimos attacks into the monster, if there’s nothing else threatening alive

[plucky flax]

Trouble is most pugs somehow have even worse monster damage than me

[brave fiber]

I think one of the best non-gun options psyker has against monsters is surge voidstrike

Big weakspot dmg

[vestal fulcrum]

certain melee weapons can also fill that gap

[hot zephyr]

yeah, there's plenty of talents you can scoop with 1 extra point that can be very useful, for example battle med can help passively dump peril while burning large hordes, which is useful for the very large dreg hordes you get on high level play

[vestal fulcrum]

Deimos, DS4, Combat blades

[brave fiber]

Yeah in most cases I just take ds4 on builds where I got no boss dmg

[plucky flax]

Warp battery is goated on my blaze trauma.

6 stacks for days big ass damage.

[rare arrow]

DS4 is so good it just deals with everything I want to in that range

Maulers, crushers, ragers, bosses

[rare arrow]

I do EP with my blaze trauma and take BB

[plucky flax]

Rip creeping flames spam

[rare arrow]

You get enough venting without the cooldown and not like trauma needs help killing hordes

[plucky flax]

My playstyle is sus

I use bb maybe twice a game with trauma.

[brave fiber]

I find it hard to take Deimos over ds4 other than for variety sometimes

[rare arrow]

It’s just cast 47 ventings per mission lol

I can only recommend Deimos over ds4 if you want deflector

[plucky flax]

Trauma left click is good for taking out specials for me.

[brave fiber]

I run bubble on like 4/5 builds so I never use deflector

Also its just weird to use

I don’t really find myself in situations where I’d get value from it

[queen fog]

A handful of lads either turn down their graphics to see through it or a whole mod that removes the static effect on it

[plucky flax]

I only run creeping flames

[rare arrow]

With bubble you never should lol

[queen fog]

You never know when a fuck ton of ranged units will eat ur bubble alive so a lil extra coverage ain’t bad

[brave fiber]

Like 95% of my downs on psyker are flamers and stealth crushers

istg didn’t they nerf enemy fire lol

[prime elk]

crushers aren't too bad now

they're pretty loud

same with flamers, esp since they fixed the fires

it's bursters that still fuck me

[brave fiber]

crushers are loud but the sounds of the horde are louder

also my deaf ass can’t tell the difference between a lot of sounds in this game

[prime elk]

i've resorted to the spidey sense mod

sound is broken in this game anyway

spidey sense feels like cheating, but i couldn't give a shit less if fatshart doesn't fix their sound

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s not cheating

[brave fiber]

It might not help actually that I blast my own music while playing most of the time

[mystic burrow]

is that fire rate normal or are u doing the quell animation cancel thing

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s a temporary solution and a genuine, potential accessibility feature for folks with hearing impairments

[prime elk]

it's not, it just feels like it because i effectively have ESP lol

i don't feel bad using it tho

[plucky flax]

Quell cancel to spam it faster.

[mystic burrow]

alright, so like how u used to do it with other staves pre buff

[brave fiber]

Hey it’s a coop game idc what people use as long as they’re not actively trolling

[plucky flax]

You can still do it with other staves now.

[mystic burrow]

does it even have a difference if u do it with other staves?

[plucky flax]

Make left click on the bolt super fast.

Yeah huge difference.

[mystic burrow]

maybe im just not doing it good enough

i rmber it has a huge impact pre left click buff on other staves

[plucky flax]

I'll find an example

[mystic burrow]

but now im not sure how big it is

[plucky flax]

Timestamped link. I used normal left click on trapper then quell cancel on sniper
https://youtu.be/XgEbIVOYwfc?t=4m14s

[mystic burrow]

i can see it

just a bit

yea i'll just keep practicing

i literally cant even see u even do a fraction of the quell animation

when i do it i still have a fraction of it

[plucky flax]

It's quite a lot faster than just left click. But they made it so left click is fairly fast now anyway.

[brave fiber]

Quell speed helps doesn’t it?

[plucky flax]

It's not a must but its just nice extra dps

No it's just how fast you press r after left click.

[brave fiber]

gotcha

[stone egret]

What to re-roll?

[brave fiber]

Barrage to nexus, and specialists to crit chance is the best

Alternatively flak, but crit is super good on purgatus because more soulblaze stacks

[proud pivot]

anyone know if enhanced blitz affects smite/brain burst in any way?

[stone egret]

thanks!

[brave fiber]

Empowered psyonics tells you what it affects in its description

[brave fiber]

np

[young ridge]

Can't save this one, right

Hadron broke my heart again

[brave fiber]

rip

[stone canyon]

Just got the right one with IV Riposte from Melk, seems almost usable, sad about the low damage stat. But wanted that blessing too, now not sure which one to use

Atleast the critting one has high Finesse

[brave fiber]

it’s tough, I personally only pull out ds4 for carapace and maniacs, so I’d use the right one, despite its slightly lower dmg

Left isn’t bad if you want a bit of horde clear as well

[stone canyon]

Left is what ive been using since i hit lvl 30

[brave fiber]

Yeah it’s not bad at all, could be better tho

[stone canyon]

Ideally id use neither and just grab their blessings, but havent found suitable specimens yet for that

[near drift]

I don't think rampage gets enough value on DS4 tbh so probably right, although that damage is a bit oof

[brave fiber]

Best case scenario get a diff ds4, uncanny 4 with riposte or precog, and your preference between carapace/flak/maniac

[near drift]

I take dmg on maniacs for my DS4 just to get those juicy mutant one pokes, but yeah uncanny and either riposte/precog can't go wrong

[stone canyon]

Yeah guess ill play around with right for now, since been using left ever since hit lvl 30 week ago or so

Too bad there isnt that big critting talents in Psyker tree, 5% toughness, movement speed and bit of warp dmg isnt really something that makes you go crazy about crits

Running Distrupt Destiny with Voidstrike though so thats nice boost to the more critting one i suppose

[harsh urchin]

wot lol

[brave fiber]

Best we got is the right side of the tree

[harsh urchin]

15% movespeed

immunity to ranged

and 15% damage

are all very good crit bonuses

[stone canyon]

Well.. im used to Zealot

[proud pivot]

I'm talking about the maelstrom modifier

[brave fiber]

o mb

[stone canyon]

Zealot is like +30% crit and +50% toughness DR and reduce 1.5s combat ability, so Psyker feels bit weaker in comparison

Also bleed stacking

[young ridge]

Guys does brittleness work on monsters

[steep estuary]

The real question is, does brittleness work?

jk jk

[young ridge]

What is working really

[near wyvern]

Try uncanny + shred with Empathic Evasion and Mettle and be amazed.

The thing with riposte and precog is that they require the enemy to go into the attack release animation aimed at you. If you or anyone else staggers or kills them during wind up which is super long for most of the attacks in the game you get no riposte/precog

[sly comet]

Big thanks to this community for helping me get this penance done. I appreciate y'all.

[near wyvern]

It does but most of the time it's half of what is claimed. It's 2.5% per stack not 5%, so max Brittleness is 16 stacks = 40%

[steep estuary]

Nice! I still need to give that a try myself

[sly comet]

The secret is to have a slab shield Ogryn agro the Daemon Host.

[steep estuary]

;-;

[near wyvern]

Why that collar has to be so damn high

[sly comet]

Then your other two team mates clear hoards.

[sinful peak]

what's the least important stat for blaze trauma

[stone canyon]

Same here, tried once and got like 85% dmg done, told the story before, friend thought i just need to bring it to 90% dmg done and started whacking it

[stone canyon]

Ok guess ill keep eye out for Shred too then as sounds more reliable

[sly comet]

Don't hate me for poppin' my collar.

[static needle]

Why is new laspistol supposedly subpar for psyker?

[near wyvern]

It isn't

[static needle]

compared to the old one?

[near wyvern]

It's truly a side grade

[plush oak]

brunt has some absolute bangers in stock rn

[near wyvern]

The blessing pool is not quite optimal but the alpha damage still makes up for it

If laspistols had Run 'N Gun available you would slap that and Dumdum on it and it would be nuts

The hip fire on the new laspistol is that good

Note: it staggers trappers and bombers even on a body shot interrupting their net/bomb and forcing them into the fiddling around ma things animation.

Single. Hip fire. Body shot. The next one usually kills them 🤷

[young ridge]

Curse fatshark. But what about monsters

[near wyvern]

But you do loose a bit on big target damage compared to the old las. Even with infernus it's not as good DPS on long term. So new last is more stagger & initial damage and old las is less stagger but better DPS.

The new las has just the right amount of damage that you can kill most things in 2 shots so damage is fine.

[near wyvern]

Monsters?

[static needle]

Flaniac for perks?

[young ridge]

Does brittleness work on monsters

[white river]

Holy moly

[weak widget]

is this gun talk in a psyker channel?

[brisk grove]

Scandalous

[brave fiber]

god tier staff, tho I prefer flak over crit chance because surge crit chance is already higher on average

[brisk grove]

Especially with warp nexus

[brave fiber]

Warp charges are basically essential for surge staff

As well

[brisk grove]

5% can end up being statically insignificant

[white river]

noted

[near wyvern]

You mean monstrosities? Brittleness works on everything that is not unarmoured or infested so currently yes, works on all monstrosities including the scab captain and the twins

[near wyvern]

+armour perks also stack multiplicatively with other bonuses in the game so they become super strong with power and other buffs

(+elite and +special stack additively with other buffs than power)

[dapper shadow]

why yes I do want damage as the dump stat

salvaged

[stone canyon]

Okay i tried the Macabian Duellist Sword with Riposte, +7% crit rate, so yeah it seems to not trigger much

Will replace with Shred once i get high one

I guess for zealot the dodges are more reliable as constantly in melee

Not so much when focus is on using staff mostly and just poking things as backup

[hexed geyser]

Are blessings shared from different characters with the same weapons?

[stone canyon]

Yes

[hexed geyser]

I'm going to have so many when playing vet lol

[stone canyon]

But then you want Plasma Gun and Power Sword, which are veteran unique? 🤷‍♂️

[near wyvern]

Dodges are more reliable for zealots because they use the knife and spam LMB with it which does not stagger thus it will not interrupt enemies.

When Psykers use knives, we tend to spam the push attack because we can (shortest base stamina regen delay + kinetic deflection to make it safe to be at 0 stamina), which staggers. Why the push attack? Cause on knife it deals the same damage as a heavy but you can throw it twice as fast while staggering everything in front of you.

Duelling sword LMB staggers trash so

[stone canyon]

Ok makes sense, Riposte bad then

[rocky raven]

precog > riposte

[stone canyon]

But Precog also needs dodge

Rather just have the effect reliably by hitting something

I guess Cleave is bit of a dump stat and this would work?

Guide says i need 78% charge rate 😅

[plush oak]

warp rez is the actual dump stat on it

damage is nice to have

[stone canyon]

Ok, guess that is junk then

[plush oak]

yea its unfortunate ngl

[plush oak]

and here mobility is the dump stat usually

[dawn spoke]

cleave is dump stat on the ds4

that's a really good start

[young ridge]

Excellent, thank you

[stone canyon]

Compared to almost maxed cleave

[near wyvern]

This is fine

Cleave damage has such a severe drop anyways

[stone canyon]

If only DS4 had Deathblow

[rocky raven]

doesnt need it tbh

alredy OP

[near wyvern]

Like what is the difference of 100% and 50% cleave damage on a third target if it takes 28 damage as a base. That's 28 damage versus 14. When the smallest HP pool is a groaner with 300 HP.

You are more likely to kill the two targets in two hits and then kill this guy as a first target than slap it as as third target for 20 times.

[haughty star]

If they went crazy with crits Noone would ruN anything but BB

Bb is always a critical

[near wyvern]

It's never critical

Always a weakspot

But cannot crit

[haughty star]

Oh weird

Not even through crit chance?

[near wyvern]

Not even with True Aim guaranteed critical

[opaque tendon]

surely they'll fix warp charge/scrier's gaze soon... right?

[haughty star]

That's big dumm

What's wrong with scriers?

[opaque tendon]

charges dont reduce gaze cd

[distant roost]

solution: dont use warp charges with scriers

[haughty star]

Yeah that seems sub optimal tbh

[distant roost]

Use disrupt destiny aka the thing with synergy with scriers

[near wyvern]

Even though BB counts as ranged attack (boosted by +5% ranged damage node) and it stacks True Aim (actually gets two stacks per cast, you get once for the stagger hit around 1 second into cast and then another on the damage hit when finishing the cast)

[haughty star]

Feel like scriers is deffo best paired with this cuz both cover each other's down times

[distant roost]

yea

Like both want weakspot shit

So

Win win

[near wyvern]

If you take Assail with Gaze you have to go EP or you are gimping yourself

[opaque tendon]

woke: low CD scrier's
broke: using talents as intended

[near wyvern]

Otherwise DD is fine

[distant roost]

depends tbh, i like assail with gaze

but i be runnin gunker w/ no force weapon

[near wyvern]

Assail with Gaze is good yes but only with EP

[wet compass]

What do you. Guys think about this sword? Maybe I should change shred for extra finesse DMG and melee weak spot for crit chance?

[quaint gust]

maybe you should switch the weak spot damage to extra crit chance and switch shred to the 6 seconds 55% finesse on succesfull dodge

[near wyvern]

My eyes burn for this non screenshot. This is Herecy.

[distant roost]

xbox prolly

[haughty star]

You know damn well what we think about that sword

[wet compass]

Cool input on the topic as well

[distant roost]

perks are bricked as fuck

id take precog instead of shred, only way to compensate the low finesse

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

[haughty star]

Isn't finesse like more important than damag3 in most cases?

[near wyvern]

@wet compass you want +carapace, +flak, +maniac or +unyielding for the perks

+armour perks scale multiplicatively with rending, power and other buffs

So +crit damage into a +armour of your choice

[haughty star]

I'm gonna be burned on the stake for saying this but I am a unarmored perk enjoyer in certain use cases

Oh shit what perks would yall recommend for a columnus autogun OR revolver respectively on a brain bursting empowered melee psyker

[nimble burrow]

crit damage / infested :)

[prime elk]

For a serious answer, flakiac for auto gun. And then combination of flakiac or carapace for revolver

[haughty star]

How about the blessings?

It's only purpose in life is gonna be ads with guns

Builds fun as fuck but the ads with guns always get me

[prime elk]

Dumdum for Columnus, second blessing doesn’t matter as much

For revolver surgical and hand cannon

[haughty star]

Kk thats what I rock on my vet too

For revolver

[prime elk]

Yeah that’s not really going to change between classes

[plush oak]

spent in total 18k plasteel still dont have dumdum

imma kms

[prime elk]

This is why I just wait patiently for milk now these days

[haughty star]

I have dum dum for recon

[plush oak]

melk been trollin me since day 1

[lone ravine]

Melk gave me 1 decent roll so far

[haughty star]

God ever since I built my melee psyker I don't have drive to play much else these days

My ogryn is good for hard carry

[opaque tendon]

bro please

[haughty star]

Vette is good doe scratching revolver itch

But melee and bb gunker just kinda ticks all the boxes

[opaque tendon]

soulblaze has been fun after running melee psyker for the past 10 years, if youve not given that a go.

[haughty star]

I have some of the soul blaze stuff just to make shriek more spicy

I'm not doing the all out scriers kinda build Mines more balanced

[opaque tendon]

i meant purgates + the uhh... kb power

[plush oak]

im lovin blaze trauma rn

usin this bad boy

and lovin it

not the best

but still workin great

[haughty star]

I don't really like staves

[prime elk]

They’re great tho

Unlimited ammo

Big boom

[haughty star]

Purgatus just feels like bad zealot/flamer gameplay

[latent hill]

Soooo what goes good with dueling sword? And what dueling sword’s good?

[prime elk]

Mk iv is the best

And anything really, since mk iv does everything

[prime elk]

Lot more uptime, less jank, better cc tho

[opaque tendon]

maxing staff blaze into +6 soulbalze shreds everything

[plucky flax]

Kinda mid staff.

[hexed geyser]

Does this sword have potential? (until it get hadron'ed of course)

[vast yew]

Does an 80/80/79 Sword have potential?
...

[hexed geyser]

Well idk, i don,t use deimos and some weapon currently want damage dump so...

I assume from your answer it's a yes?

[stone canyon]

Just perk is weak

[vast yew]

The only weapons that "want" damage dumps are things like Soulblaze staff, where the damage comes from the DoT which is a different stat

[stone canyon]

So you gotta luck out with Hadron RNG

[vast yew]

and even then damage isn't useless, it's just not as useful as other stuff

[hexed geyser]

Alright, time for hadron

[vast yew]

If Hadron gives you 2/3 good perks/blessings that's a demigod roll there

[hexed geyser]

Wait i think hadron was kind for once

[vast yew]

lmao

[plucky flax]

[steep estuary]

Lol I've seen worse

[plucky flax]

If that flak was maniac or carapace would be perfect in my book.

[vast yew]

welp CHD -> Maniacs and Exorcist -> Slaughterer/Deflector and badabing badaboom

[plucky flax]

I like maniac + carapace best on deimos and ds4.

[vast yew]

Maniac + Carapace/Unyielding yeah, though Flak is never terrible

[hexed geyser]

Do i kill mutants in 1 attack with the perk?

[plucky flax]

With high peril or some warp charges.

[white egret]

could anyone show me a good talent build for psyker with zarona revolver?

[vast yew]

Nah he doens't need peril or charges

[hexed geyser]

Just to charge the sword should be fine?

[vast yew]

just the perk suffices with a Deimos with a good enough Deimos

don't need to charge it either

[steep estuary]

Flak > carapace due to more enemies having flak right?

[hexed geyser]

Yeah

[vast yew]

90% of the time, yes, but Psykers are weird and usually kill Flak enemies at range

[hexed geyser]

Because that's the main use of my illisi right now, killing mutants charging and clearing hordes

[opaque tendon]

for the most part, unless you wanted whatever weapon specifically to be a carapace killer

eg

[plucky flax]

Hmm with that high damage roll and 25% maniac maybe he doesn't need any peril.

[vast yew]

also for posterity, although I'm positive you're there: what does the sword say it deals on a Heavy2 Headshot vs. Maniacs?

[vast yew]

it doesn't

[plucky flax]

My sword can't 1 shot heavy 2 mutie without any buff.

[vast yew]

20% Maniacs is why, probably; what's the number for Maniac headshot on Heavy2

[plucky flax]

I need a bit of peril or warp charges.

[opaque tendon]

are you using #heavy attack #1 or #2?

[hexed geyser]

h2 right now

[opaque tendon]

heavy 1 is, like, only slightly better than light 1 on deimos

[plucky flax]

Heavy 2 I am not

I am 1%.

[opaque tendon]

okay?

lmaoooo

[vast yew]

Yup, hit it with just the 25% damage perk

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

the magic number is 1067

1067 * 1.25 = 1334, Muties take 3x damage from melee and have 4k hp, 1334 x 3 = 4002

[hexed geyser]

Oooooh that explains a lot

[vast yew]

With a 20% damage perk you'd need to have a visible number of 1112 which I don't think is possible

[plucky flax]

In a real game though my sword almost always 1 shot mutie.

Cos they'll get shot up a bit.

Or I always have peril.

It has a tiny bit left.

[vast yew]

yeah though it's always nice to have the rock-solid knowledge that it will kill

[plucky flax]

True my weapon very trash.

Will delete.

[vast yew]

Along with your trauma

very bad rolls on it

[opaque tendon]

just dodge mutant until someone else takes care of it

[plucky flax]

Have yet to see a better trauma than mine.

[hexed geyser]

Wait i'll just make one

[plucky flax]

Good luck

[hexed geyser]

lmao my first roll is cursed

[haughty star]

Based deflector enjoyer

[opaque tendon]

who doesn't enjoy being able to advance against gunner packs

[plucky flax]

Hrm you kinda want uncanny for crushers.

[vast yew]

Uncanny is busted

Crushers, bosses, just chaining lights on trash mobs

Also at rank 4 you can use a Special Heavy on a Flak Captain's head to deal like 40% of their hp in a single blow

[hexed geyser]

Is there higher chances to get t4 blessings with a certain rating?

[raw flax]

i need a build that does absurd ape on cocaine levels of damage

any ideas ?

[opaque tendon]

like, damage over a match or

[vast yew]

AFAIK you have a higher chance to get rank 4 based on the base rating and a slightly higher chance when going from purple -> gold instead of green -> blue, but it's not a ton

If you want to deal a million damage per game you're in the right discord channel

[plucky flax]

Illisi surge smite for big damage.

Or anything assail.

[vast yew]

Illisi/Surge/Assail

[raw flax]

right but whats the MOST

and is there a build link ?

[vast yew]

Most is probably Blaze Trauma or Surge Voidstrike

[haughty star]

Best part is is sniper shots cost 0 peril

[raw flax]

also whats illisi

[plucky flax]

Xd

[hexed geyser]

the sword

[opaque tendon]

some star wars planet or some shit

[vast yew]

Illisi is a Force Sword variant

[haughty star]

Sweeping force sword

[vast yew]

good at horde clear

sort of a Psyker Power Sword

[haughty star]

A lawnmower is what it is

[zinc phoenix]

Call me Assmail

[vast yew]

better non-special attacks, but no power cycler

[ornate hamlet]

Gamers, I bring Reddit takes

"Gun psyker is actually great. Has a higher skill floor than most Vet builds but if mastered it can even outperform Vet’s dps with many weapons because it’s height crit chance. It deals much higher boss damage than Vet too. It’s only problem is that has a small ammo pool and currently cannot regen ammo. But you can as a Vet so learn to manage."

[vast yew]

that checks out, yes

[ornate hamlet]

Turns out we outpace vet having half their tree dedicated to stacking damage and nobody knew about it

[vast yew]

Columnus Gunker deals assloads of damage

[rapid widget]

True

[opaque tendon]

i'd disagree a bit with their reasoning that high-crit = only reason but they ain't wrong entirely

[vast yew]

Perilous Combustion also does a lot of heavy lifting

[radiant sleet]

finally got a half decent deimos. I want deflector 4 to replace deflector 3, but for the perk should I swap sprint? does maniac = mutant? i can never remember all the classifications

[rapid widget]

I run Columnus Gyker. There is nothing I can't, at most, two shot outside of the monstrosities

[ornate hamlet]

The part that really got me was the "much higher" boss damage

[vast yew]

You don't want Deflector 4 you want to swap Unstable -> Uncanny 4 and Sprint Efficiency to Carapace or Unyielding

[ornate hamlet]

I can take gun psyker dealing a shitload of damage, I play one

[opaque tendon]

but yeh, ammo issues on gunker is, like, real. especially since everyone tends to play with a miindset of "ew, gunker. they dont need ammo"

[plucky flax]

Maniac are the specials, including mutie.

[rapid widget]

Even then, I one clip Nurgle and Fleshy

[plucky flax]

And dreg rager.

[vast yew]

oh wait Deflector was changed

nvm you want Unstable -> Uncanny

[ornate hamlet]

But goddamn if vet doesn't have a massive fuckload of damage bonuses

Which means they have crit damage bonuses

And taking the aura into consideration, a 7.5% lower crit chance

[vast yew]

Crit Damage is trash

[ornate hamlet]

Not when it comes from damage

[rapid widget]

Crit damage bonuses kek

[vast yew]

And Scrier's Gaze is the missing puzzle piece

[opaque tendon]

we simp for power per peril in this channel

[vast yew]

alongside True Aim

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran can pop exec stance and add 20% power to headshots, 15% close range and 10% any range

[vast yew]

which means you actually have 100% crit Chance

[radiant sleet]

deflector is so fun though, and I can run auric damn/mael without needing melee much other than block/push

[ornate hamlet]

On top of having rending, 20% monstrosities, 30% weakspot, two ranged damage nodes instead of one

Longshot, killzone

[vast yew]

No no Deflector is good; I missed the little symbol saying you changed it

[ionic needle]

Blaze trauma is just crazy on scab melee only

[ornate hamlet]

Reciprocity, which is a higher crit chance than scrier's gaze provides at max stacks

[vast yew]

True Aim = 100% crit chance if you keep hitting headshots

because of how the Columnus interacts with crits

(it might only be 80%, I forget how long the "salvo" is)

[ornate hamlet]

And what damage bonuses are supplementing that crit chance?

[vast yew]

but regardless you can almost constantly crit

[radiant sleet]

oh so you think I should just keep the perks and swap unstable -> uncanny? i dont really need carapace anyway i use void for them

[ornate hamlet]

When the gun has such a mass of crit strings, is there not a point where more crit chance does nothing?

[radiant sleet]

nvm i just saw your edited msg thank you

[haughty star]

Deflector can stop sniper shots at 0 peril cost

Probably a bug but I don't care

[vast yew]

20% from Warp Rider, 40% from Scrier's Gaze, 30% Finesse from Scrier's, 15% Damage from DD, 30% Crit Damage from DD, 37.5% Weak Spot from DD

Do you even know how Gunker builds work my guy

[orchid nest]

the crit strings don't chain themselves if thats what you mean so yes crit chance matters

it's only true aim carrying that

[ornate hamlet]

Yes, the keystone that relies on something besides the boss

No, apparently I don't know how gun psyker works, it's not like I was one of the people playing that since before patch 13

[haughty star]

I hate all these lotto builds like gimme something always reasonably chunky rather than something insane if x y and z happens first

[ornate hamlet]

That's the magic of veteran's damage

Only a handful of it is truly conditional

[haughty star]

Yeah my first build was executioner vet and I still rock it

Executioner with confirmed kill is like having your cake and eating it

Saying this i know you can basically have voice of command hard carry you and your team through extension... but

[vast yew]

Well it's a good thing you took the time to familiarize yourself with the post Patch 13 gunker builds, because those are the ones we're currently talking about

[haughty star]

When I'm rocking execution vet nothing is ever alive to shoot at the bois

[ionic needle]

Pre patch 13 gunker was just equip shredder get the blessings brrrrrr

[vast yew]

Shredder was absurd

[ionic needle]

So much fun

[vast yew]

Whoever coded Pinning Fire was on drugs

[umbral helm]

cerebral lacerations kinetic flayer my beloved

[plush oak]

yayyy got my first 1k+ kill gamee

[ornate hamlet]

I did, that's why I mock the notion that gun psyker has "much higher" boss damage than the class who has been shown to kill a boss in 5 shots with the new revolver

[lunar oracle]

What perks should I take on my purgatus

[vast yew]

Flak and Crit Chance/Maniacs

[lunar oracle]

Does the burn damage benefit from the perk?

[vast yew]

Yes

[plush oak]

crit on purg = double souldblaze stacks

[vast yew]

Also Crits deal 2 stacks of Soulblaze, and you want at least 76 Burn so you get max soulblaze stack count

[plush oak]

DONT YOU JUST LOVE IT?

[lone ravine]

What penance

[ornate hamlet]

For vet I just walked behind and slammed the exec stance key without caring about the marksman stacks, while for psyker I let scrier's gaze go all the way up so I could start firing at full buffs

So when I manipulated the conditions for my psyker, I got 5K damage behind

[lone ravine]

Oh

[vast yew]

If you're going DD, which is the way you want to go if maximizing boss damage, you'll almost always have 15 stacks of DD as you only need 1 marked kill every 30 seconds

Now personally I don't, because I hate the DD minigame, but it does give you quite the buff

[orchid nest]

Columnus is much stronger on psyker than the other ones because of crit strings so it's a better test with it. that looks like agri?

[vast yew]

(also EP Assail helps with ammo)

[orchid nest]

the other ones have lower crit strings

[ornate hamlet]

DD gives a hilarious buff, but I don't find it fair to talk boss damage requiring enemies outside of the boss

[vast yew]

think that's a Columnus, but can't see the stats so unsure

[ornate hamlet]

Both are the agri

[vast yew]

oh well then

you want a Columnus so the True Aim gives more

[plush oak]

love the 4 shot crit string of it

[ornate hamlet]

Veteran also has access to that gun

[plush oak]

columnus my beloved

[vast yew]

Also "requires enemies" isn't a big deal, it's 1 kill every 30 seconds to keep up

[ornate hamlet]

If I give the psyker a columnus to make its damage better, the vet getting the columnus will also have better damage

[umbral helm]

whenever I am using or see a columnus user, I inject myself/them with a celerity stim and say "go, shoot fast"

[plush oak]

yea but columnus + scriers gaze + DD is insane synergy

[vast yew]

yes, but crit strings are 4 long on Columnus, which means True Aim by itself is 80% Crit, whereas on Agripinaa I think they're only 3 long so True Aim is only 60%

[willow hazel]

The point is more that Columnus has ~100% crit on Psyker but not Vet

[plush oak]

conclusion -> big damage

[willow hazel]

also Psyker being immune to range damage while shooting makes it really easy to position to hit the Beast of Nurgle

[vast yew]

Scrier's Also lasts longer than Executioners; I'm curious how the comparison goes if you do it until the enemy is dead rather than "how much do I get from a single ability use/clip"

aka pop ability, start shooting, stop when BoN is dead and time it

[orchid nest]

would also need to see the weapons too. like if you're doing that test and one has raking fire with dumdum and one doesn't on BoN it's not a very good test

[hexed geyser]

Deimos charged attacks are weird

[vast yew]

Demios Charged attacks are reserved for single Elites and bosses

[hexed geyser]

Kind of like a chain weapon but doesn't look like it

[vast yew]

it's usually higher DPS to just light 1 -> Heavy 2 loop

[plucky flax]

It's good against mutie too.

Can easily 1 shot heavy special mutie.

[vast yew]

yeah if you're bullfighting a Mutant without other concerns then it makes it easy

no need to aim for headshot with heavy 2

[plucky flax]

Yeah especially when you're next to a wall. You know he'd be stunned.

So it's just special heavy 1 any where. No need for hs to kill it.

[vast yew]

you can hit him mid-dodge and he'll die from the chain attack even if he's 20 feet away by then

[plucky flax]

That's too hard.

[vast yew]

skill issue dayo

[plucky flax]

[ornate hamlet]

Oh no, it seems that I was immensely stupid and did not filter my items correctly and my vet guns had +20516% unyielding and raking fire tier 6

[vast yew]

well that would explain it

[ornate hamlet]

I know it doesn't hurt to ask, but it almost sounds like assuming stupidity just because someone said something you disagree with

[vast yew]

not about saying, it's about what you showed
every test deserves scrutiny

[ornate hamlet]

Half of this testing is just Mourningstar loading screens

[orchid nest]

I mention it not because I am assuming that but because it's much more common for vets to take raking fire

and people make mistakes. no need to assume malice

[willow hazel]

Yeah I don't like Raking Fire too much on Psyker

[vast yew]

Especially when it comes to testing stuff; making sure your test is properly vetted is Testing 101

[vast yew]

Hadron disagrees with me so I'm forced to run it

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, did I get the right screenshots

Yeah, just inverted

[vast yew]

Yeah those are correct, though I'd still argue you should be throwing on 15 stacks of DD to simulate real game scenarios

[ornate hamlet]

Anyway, this time a bit under 8K behind

I would if DD was reliable

[vast yew]

it's duration is 30 seconds

[ornate hamlet]

And didn't need extra specific enemies

[vast yew]

it's reliable enough

it doesn't need extra specific enemies most of the time, you just throw assail at the blue guy

[orchid nest]

the numbers should be closer than the previous test considering columnus is just stronger on psyker than agri so there is some discrepancies in your tests somewhere

[vast yew]

also I'm assuming this is damage over 1 clip, using the 5 seconds on Executioner's vs. the 10 Seconds of Scier's ending, yes?

I'm curious how the damage looks if you start firing immediately after using Scrier's and continue until the BoN is dead, while timing it

vs. firing immediately after using Executioner's until the BoN is dead and timing that

IIRC the main Scrier's Buff (20% Crit Chance, 10% Damage) does not persist once you hit 100% Peril

you only get the 1% damage per second and 1% Finesse per second

Which, in this case, is 12% damage and 12% Finesse

[plush oak]

hardon tryna get me to kms today

[ornate hamlet]

Yes, it's my fault I gave psyker a headstart with full buffs

[vast yew]

It's not full buffs

[ornate hamlet]

I've shown what I've wanted to show, the rest I'll leave to someone else

[vast yew]

you've shown nothing but 2 screenshots of how Executioner's stance provides more damage than 12% damage and 12% Finesse

which is completely seperate to the issue of whether Vet Columnus or Psyker Columnus kills bosses faster

[orchid nest]

You've shown that the psyker with DD would come ahead so far but it's hard to have any validation of a test from screenshots without seeing weapon and build differences

[ornate hamlet]

I know the type, the "but you did it wrong" will persist until I give up

So I'm giving up now

I don't care enough to keep arguing this shit

[lavish wigeon]

Can someone give me a link to a solid psyker build that uses chain lightning skill?

[vast yew]

as in Smite or the Surge Staff

[ornate hamlet]

If you want to prove me wrong, prove me wrong instead of telling myself "this isn't the way you're meant to prove yourself wrong" until I hit the magic spot

[lavish wigeon]

Smite. Trying to find ideas for a friend but they hate the staff for chain lightning

[orchid nest]

it's really not a big deal man, if it's frustrating you then no need to continue. you are misreading my tone at the very least I can assure you, I was genuinely interested

[ornate hamlet]

I opened the game and sat through the loading screens for it, surely the people who are so adamant on me being wrong can do it too

[vast yew]

to be fair I'm at work

[orchid nest]

I don't play vet so much that I have very comparable columnus' on both so that's why I was interested. I play vet an ok amount but it's my least played for sure

[lavish wigeon]

Im mostly trying to get my friend off of assail

[vast yew]

Smite is most useful when used as a panic button on a Voidstrike build, to lock down elites for a few seconds while you prepare to deal with them, or on a Creeping Flames build where you use it to lock down the room and spam max-peril Shrieks to kill things via Soulblaze

[lavish wigeon]

Anything will work. I just want him to stop using assail since its kinda not as good since they nerfed the handcannon interaction

[vast yew]

in general it is worse than Assail, thought it lets you pick up Psykinetic's Aura

Assail is still the best blitz, it just requires sacrifices to take and isn't as overpowering as it was

[lavish wigeon]

Oh

I just know he struggles HARD against anything wearing armor

[vast yew]

What staff does he use

most staves will shred anything that isn't Carapace

[lavish wigeon]

He was using a lightning staff. But he just swapped to lasgun yesterday

[vast yew]

well Surge staff should perform decently vs. armor

Lasgun is a bit of an odd weapon for Psyker

Recon Lasguns are currently a bit underpowered also

[lavish wigeon]

Idk. Im trying to find solid builds for him cuz he struggles hard against maulers

[vast yew]

Maulers can get 2-shot if you set the Surge up right

But all of the staves can clear Maulers pretty fast

Voidstrikes one-shot them, Trauma staggers them and Purgatus burns them (as it deals Flak damage to them)

[lavish wigeon]

Whats voidstrike?

[vast yew]

Voidstrike Force Staff

aka kamehameha

[lavish wigeon]

(I play ogryn, he refuses to do any due diligence on his own for builds)

[lavish wigeon]

Ah

[vast yew]

Voidstrike's charged shot is simliar to the Plasma Rifle; takes longer to charge, but gets access to a little blessing called "Surge" (not to be confused with the staff...)

[orchid nest]

I know what that's like lol for friends and builds. I'm usually the one helping a couple out too that aren't as interested in putting effort into them

[vast yew]

Do any of your friends stubbornly insist that Kinetic Flayer is god-tier?

[lavish wigeon]

Bro thats every game we play, they wanna get good and have fun. But im the only one that joins any discords to get better info

[lavish wigeon]

Ill let him know about the voidstrike staff

[orchid nest]

they don't play psyker fortunately. but they should probably replace flayer with cerebral lacerations now that its main utility is gone (giving a warp charge reliably)

[vast yew]

Oh I know, but I'm arguing with a brick wall

[orchid nest]

thats really the only reason people took it before. "I'd rather not worry about warp charges than have 6"

[vast yew]

Also be sure he takes True Aim and gets the Surge blessing on the staff

[lavish wigeon]

The only kinetic flaying that should happen is in #ogryn-class

[harsh urchin]

He definitely doesn't want to be using a lasgun then

Lololol

[lavish wigeon]

Idk what psykers can do aside from desync my game lmao

[harsh urchin]

Can do a lot tbh

[lavish wigeon]

I just play big man go bonk

[harsh urchin]

But if the build isnt coherent theyll just die over and over

And not kill anything 😹

[vast yew]

We usually do this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yk3r1ejk5PQ

[lavish wigeon]

He clears regular hordes, dogs, and some elites really easy

But ragers, maulers, and ogryns he struggles with

[vast yew]

Ragers and Maulers should die to whatever he's using to kill the other Elites, since they count as Flak and you usually take +Flak on your ranged weapon for that purpose

Ogryns can be trickier, but some ranged weapons still delete them, and the Dueling Sword Mk4 can 3-shot them

[harsh urchin]

Ye sounds like he has a grasp on the basics of the game

Now he just needs to properly craft his weapons and use his weapon combos correctly

[lavish wigeon]

I usually handle it for him with rocks or nukes

[lavish wigeon]

Thats not up to me other than to just share recommendations

Welp. Im off to the lfg channels. Ty for the help guys

[harsh urchin]

Well best way to help him learn is to just

Let him die

[lavish wigeon]

Lmao

[harsh urchin]

To stuff lol

Good luck tho

[vast yew]

Yeah the difference between a randomly rolled Psyker build and a good Psyker build can be pretty nuts

though honestly that goes for most classes

[thick valley]

oh yes

[opaque tendon]

inc brick

[vast yew]

well he's got an 83% chance to get at least a usable roll

[orchid nest]

I sent you a PM delta if you notice a random message request

[vast yew]

oh so you did

[ionic needle]

I fucking love melee only with blaze trauma, I even run it on heresy when it's up just to watch my name all over the kill feed haha

[plucky flax]

[ionic needle]

I run with mk 6 knife and swap wildfire for battle meditation though, the mobility from knife is just insane

[west galleon]

I still dont know how to feel about disrupt destiny vs warp siphon... DD feels stronger but I hate that I also feel like I need to cap at 15 charges bc 15 seconds is too small of a window

anyone here got some actual insight? I dont really do get into the %s tbh

[orchid nest]

DD is typically good with things that already want true aim so when comparing the two you should keep in mind that DD is a much lower investment and you have to consider what all the other talent points you are getting to use are doing for you. With that said siphon is very good especially for non scriers setups that can use the cooldown reduction.

[harsh urchin]

I'd only run DD on a build that ran assail and a ranged weakspot weapon personally

[orchid nest]

yeah, basically. voidstrike or a gun

[harsh urchin]

so assail + VS or assail + laspis/vraks/colum

[west galleon]

Im trying to do a crit voidstrike build

[harsh urchin]

in addition, I would take the 30 second duration node, and 3 stacks on kill nodes

if any of those conditions can't be true

I would use a different keystone

[west galleon]

and if assail was not an option?

[orchid nest]

the main problem you run into with a siphon crit voidstrike build is you still want true aim and getting down into siphon and having true aim is possible but makes the rest of your build very lean. you are very committed to only voidstrike spam at that point

[west galleon]

hmm

[harsh urchin]

assail is vital to passively keeping the stacks up

[west galleon]

yea my idea was to just redline voidstrike spam

since high peril has some nice rewards with warp nexus and warp rider

[harsh urchin]

it's too hard to keep stacks up with just vs

if you want to use vs as primary

I suggest vs + shield/shriek + wc/ep

[west galleon]

wc/ep?

[orchid nest]

warp charges/empowered

[west galleon]

ah

[orchid nest]

warp charges are pretty good for just camping your void for sure, you are more all into a finesse build in general like dis said if you go into dd. like you have assail, a ds4 or something, and a voidstrike

[west galleon]

so I guess I'll stick to my warp siphon just to actually benefit from charges and not lose them constantly

alright you gave me some things to consider, I think i need to be a bit more flexible...

thanks for the feedback

[harsh urchin]

ye it's all about the synergies within the kit

right side is...

lets just say right side of psyker tree requires a bit more work to be effective

than the left/middle

[west galleon]

the bad thing is i've been running t5+ with my build for forever and I know I am not optimized but I am kind of stuck with what "i am used to"

i dont want to change xd

[tacit sorrel]

Does the damage from the Force sword special attack scale with whether you use a light or heavy swing?

[west galleon]

dont know sry

[raw flax]

Anyone have like the godliest of god builds that can solo runs ?

Trying to replicate what i have on my zealot but want something similar on psyker just as a psyker

[orchid nest]

Do you mean actually solo or carrying a team?

If carrying a team trauma setups are probably the most consistent there for dealing with problems while still killing them at the same time

[somber marsh]

does anyone know if the "lightning storm" blitz upgrade works on smite's right click?

[raw flax]

yeah basically, but what talents etc

[somber marsh]

the one that gives you +1 jump

[raw flax]

cause ive tried assail and i like the playstyle but it doesnt do the damage like i can on my zealot case i normally average around 800-900k per maelstrom

[orchid nest]

Well you can do blaze trauma or the rending setup. blaze trauma is probably better if you're carrying but rending is really good too. give me one moment

this is a very basic blaze trauma setup. you can go essence harvest or psychic vampire in warp siphon too. two points left for whatever you like

can grab 6 charges, more toughness, etc

resonance isn't necessary either but it's nice

[lethal lagoon]

Need to take out Resonance to call it a "very basic blaze trauma"

[raw flax]

and this should get close to that 700k+?

[lethal lagoon]

There's is no synergy between resonance and creeping flames

[orchid nest]

yeah fair enough but I did mention that at least

resonance gives you a better baseline vs monstrosities so I consider it baseline for my builds but it's not required for sure

[lethal lagoon]

Brother, go fight a monster in the pysch with BB. It does way less than you think.

[orchid nest]

I'm aware of how much it does

melee is also much less than people think in a real situation when it's not a plague ogryn facing you the entire time

resonance windows are still worth it on their own in real situations

regardless I mentioned it's optional anyways

[lethal lagoon]

A normal blazing trauma build with a decent player can get that pretty easily with pubs, yeah.

All the staves can really.

[bold abyss]

Hey all, Any recommends of another sword that works good with the psyker warp charge skill set up? Or another description my gameplay is do a lot of electricity with the electric staff, they get too close, do peril wave, that coats the enemies in the blue flames, very rarely need to use head pop. but its there. I am using the sword that allows bullet reflect and the other buff just allows the weapon to do more damage..etc.

[long wharf]

sounds like you want the Illisi force sword

[rare arrow]

I prefer EP on a similar build

[orchid nest]

EP is fine but I usually would do EP with a rending trauma instead since creeping flames and siphon is so strong with blaze trauma. my preference at least, it'll still do good

[primal blade]

siblins

i tried out veteran

and now i kinda wanna use the chainsword on my psyker

should i go for the Mk XIIIg

or the MK IV

[hushed egret]

whichever suits the needs of your build better

one is surely more single target than the other, and vice versa, so fill whatever hole is in your build

[primal blade]

i have a Illisi Mk V blaze force sword currently

[prime elk]

Mk iv is closer to Illisi if that’s what you’re looking for

[hushed egret]

yeah

[bold abyss]

MK v blaze force is exactly what I am using and tweaked it a bit, but there was nothing I could justify changing. Will stick with that then and Surge staff. thanx see ya in the sewers.

[lethal lagoon]

I prefer mk4 dueling on surge creeping flames because the only major weakness is mutants and movement.

[hushed egret]

mk4 rapier goes hard

that and illisi are my go tos, depending on if my build is missing single target or lawn mowing capabilities

[lunar quail]

are staff blessings univeral across staffs?

[tawny pebble]

i don't believe so

[lunar quail]

ok

got warp flurry 4 on a trauma staff

in requisitorium

but i want it for void strike

[hushed egret]

there's a handful of blessings every staff has access to, but earning blessing at Hadron only unlocks it for that one staff

[lunar quail]

i know that blessings earned apply for weapons in the same family

[hushed egret]

which is extremely frustrating and singlehandedly quadrupled my current plasteel spending rate

[lunar quail]

and they even apply aross characters

but staffs dont count as one family?

[hushed egret]

nope

[lunar quail]

whack

[hushed egret]

for some emprah-forbidden reason

[lunar quail]

why u ogryn talking in psyker chat

[hushed egret]

because Ogryns are a spark-ead's best friend

we love Brute's in this household

[lunar quail]

i see that

do i want to cop a warp flurry 4 trauma staff then

even if its 3k from mel;k

[hushed egret]

ye

warp flurry is incredible on trauma staffs

[lunar quail]

copped

[hushed egret]

their charge time is abysmal

[lunar quail]

worth

W

[hushed egret]

granted so is voids charge time but at least it's a little more single target

[lunar quail]

this is the only good range weapon i have on psyker

flurry would be nice

[midnight epoch]

what should I change here? just unarmoured to something?

[hushed egret]

I would swap charge rate and blast radius if I could but I want that staff

[upper sun]

you got that from rng?

[lunar quail]

yeah

[upper sun]

damn nice

[lunar quail]

it hits

[hushed egret]

I'd change the crit chance perk if anything

[upper sun]

how long did it take damn

[lunar quail]

i can actuaslly still refine i think

but idk what to put on it

[hushed egret]

maybe swap weakspot damage for carapace/flak?

[lunar quail]

i think unyeilding is fdoo right?

because bosses?

probably carapce

[upper sun]

carapace armor and idk

[hushed egret]

idk what fdoo means

[lunar quail]

but idk if that would give me any good breakpoints

sorry mayne

good*

[hushed egret]

carapace would be good for taking down crushers and maulers more reliably

[lunar quail]

i think carapce

it already vaporizes anything else

[hushed egret]

ye

and if you already vaporize carapace, then you can do it at a lower charge

[midnight epoch]

oh, what to?

[primal blade]

god i want a chainsword so much but its so hard to give up on this

let alone the chances of a decent chainsword being in the store so i would have to get it from grey

maybe melk can bail me out of this

well

sorta bailed me out

[hushed egret]

idk, flak I guess

5% crit chance just isnt really worth mych

[primal blade]

well i think hadron has responded to my pleas

[midnight epoch]

so keep blessings and go the standard flak maniac?

[midnight jolt]

I would show you but I need more of the rolls thingies 😂 lets see if I get lucky and get uncanny strike 4, if I do, I'm done 😉

I'm having skill issues with brain burst, I can't use it as fast as others, what's the trick?

I'm not planning to stick with it, but for the penances stuff, I need to master it a bit

[midnight epoch]

you cast it faster after venting shriek or with empowered psionics

[hushed egret]

not necessarily change the unarmored. illissi is a good crowd clearer, you can totally benefit from unarmored damage there

[hushed egret]

or empowered psionics

amazing keystone for brain burst

[midnight jolt]

that's what I was missing

[prime elk]

Kinetic resonance is mandatory unless you’re memeing. If you’re planning to heavily focus on BB recommend taking double wall and EP for maximum accelerated BB up time

[midnight jolt]

not memeing, I need the kills, I'm just new, 1 week playing the game 😂

[prime elk]

Every time you come across a big group of gunners for example

Drop a wall and start casting

Having two walls also means you have a lot more flexibility in when you have the accelerated cast

[tawny pebble]

yeah, EP alone can be...finicky when you have competent teammates that headshot fast

[midnight jolt]

I have a purgatus staff, god roll-ish, so I think it goes better with venting shriek?

[prime elk]

Yah EP alone isn’t enough if you plan on using BB a lot

[tawny pebble]

Ehh, its peril efficiency may mitigate the necessity of Shriek

[prime elk]

Shriek is totally fine too

Depends on how much you want to use BB

[tawny pebble]

yeah, absolutely

[midnight jolt]

which one you know is practically better to generate psionics charges? left or right?

[tawny pebble]

depends on if you're crowd clear or special sniper

[midnight jolt]

Crowd, with purgatus ....

so that answers

[tawny pebble]

it's largely which you feel more confident killing often, then

12.5% chance per kill is great if you can torch a bunch of poxwalkers

[midnight jolt]

specially with this, which I'm working on it, missing WN 4:

[tawny pebble]

but if you can reliably BB elites then you basically can cycle endless free BBs

[midnight jolt]

well, it will be the next one when I get lucky again 😂

let's see how it goes, I have to look at it as what the game demands from you, experience, etc

thanks for the ideas 😉

[prime elk]

More than good enough already imo. Better to spend your time and mats on other weapons

[rapid widget]

I saw someone say that Scrier's Gaze 'maximizes the damage of the Soulblaze' on a Purgatus build. Does that just translate to "It crits more so the Soulblaze stacks faster" or is there something I'm missing in regards to the actual damage of Soulblaze?

[prime elk]

Pretty sure main thing is crit chance

[brisk grove]

maybe just that +10-30% damage makes all the little damage ticks add up?

[prime elk]

For faster stacks of soulblaze

[brisk grove]

wait what do crits have to do with the purgatus applying soulblaze?

[rapid widget]

Crits apply two stacks instead of one.

[brisk grove]

oh..

[hushed egret]

for burst, always take elite kills

it means burst will give itself its charges back on many of the targets you'll use it on

just generally speaking elite kills is more reliable, but builds with low single target (like smite x flamethrower) can comfortably use the extra chance instead

[hushed egret]

shouldnt matter with a flamethrower tbh

for any other fire source I'm taking every bit extra I can get my hands on, but purgatus maxes out stacks on enemies much faster than it needs to (which is good so you can swap weapons)

[ripe remnant]

Is this a good one? Or I need 80 damage?

[hushed egret]

less that you need 80 damage and more that really want it

[harsh urchin]

good enough to use

[hushed egret]

the big thing surge staff cares about it single target murder, the lower the damage, the more it loses its primary function, but yeah definitely useable, you're min/maxing if you go for 80

[ripe remnant]

Worth getting from the Melk shop?

[harsh urchin]

no

[hushed egret]

I'd say it is

for the warp nexus sacrifice if nothing else

saves you some plasteel heavy blessing farming

[harsh urchin]

it's pretty easy to roll blessings on surge cuz it has like 3-4 available ones

and this one only has lv3 blessings

[hushed egret]

yeah but level 4's hard to come by cheaply

but also yeah there's only 4 blessing options and the primary stats are the lowest

[ripe remnant]

Isn't primary stats - damage, critical bonus and charging speed?

[hushed egret]

damage, crit bonus, and warp resistance

the charge rate is already so low and 60%-80% (the max possible range on a theoretical 380 roll) doesnt change the charge time by a very valueable amount

[ripe remnant]

I see

[hushed egret]

now whether you prefer that extra charge rate or quell speed if up to you, I'm more keen on quell speed personally, but that's all preference

but yeah, surge EATS your peril

[midnight jolt]

that worked, better brain burst, now switching to elite killing for refill

[hexed geyser]

Idk what to think about that from melk

And that actually. And maybe that knife too. What's your opinion everyone?

[prime elk]

Terrible finesse, and blessings aren’t that good

[prime elk]

Void strike staff looks ok but you’ll be stuck with t3 nexus and unyielding

[hushed egret]

I'd yoink it for the bloodthirsty blessing

that things rare and can do some unique things

[hexed geyser]

Yeah it's pretty funny, i want to build one at some point

[hushed egret]

and finesse being low is kind of fine tbh even if suboptimal

[hushed egret]

that trauma on the other hand is beautiful

[hexed geyser]

It's a voidstrike

[white wolf]

With this stat distribution, can this be saved? 😦

[hushed egret]

oh right. why the hell they made void and trauma look the exact same is beyond me

[hexed geyser]

But close enough. I hate that they have the same thing

Like, 4 staves is too much for the art team?

[hushed egret]

that's good and saveable for sure

[white wolf]

reroll blessings or perks tho

[hexed geyser]

Flak is fine, wrath is ok i think?

[hushed egret]

they do look different, but it's mostly the length and colors that's different

[hexed geyser]

Oh really? I don't have a trauma, i'm doing that tomorrow so i never checked the details

[hushed egret]

I was thinking bloodletter on the blessings, but wrath is solid too

[hexed geyser]

I don't know much about psyker chainsword, i'm thinking more of what's great on zealot. But both are fine i'm pretty sure.

[hushed egret]

void's medallion tooper thing is silver with gold lining and a red eye, and shorter than the other staff heads. trauma is gold with a blue eye like the other 2 staffs

[hushed egret]

same and same. blooodletter seems good buuuuuuut maybe not?

[ornate hamlet]

no, beloved, i dont think a pineapple fried this rice

[elfin roost]

no, beloved, I don't think pizza is going to get a job after wood fired it

German Accent Psyker is such a mood
"I'm not dead yet, splendid!"

[umbral helm]

"beloved, you're saying a shrimp fucked this rice?"

[elfin roost]

beloved, bird flu? yeah, they tend to do that

[lone ravine]

A shrimp WHAT the rice?

[lone ravine]

I think I’m going to go commit 101% peril now

[midnight jolt]

Can you do this? without having the warp charges skills?

[potent echo]

Of course not

It's specifically warp charges

[midnight jolt]

so that penance = have a sucky build

[harsh urchin]

warp charges are good

[potent echo]

It's a legacy penance

[harsh urchin]

lol

[midnight jolt]

but brain burst is so slow

[potent echo]

You don't need to run brain burst

[midnight jolt]

without that the middle tree

[harsh urchin]

BB is also not bad lol

[potent echo]

You can run anything, just take warp charges

[harsh urchin]

a build that can run both WC + BB for example is purg

[midnight jolt]

BB is not bad, but without empowered psionics is pain to cast

is like Goku during 3 episodes casting his spirit bomb

[prime elk]

Kinetic resonance makes it pretty nice tho

[midnight jolt]

so after venting shriek for example?

[prime elk]

Yeah

You can get off like four casts while it’s active

Very fast

Faster than just using EP charges

[midnight jolt]

Gonna try that, thanks for the clarification 😉

I guess the double shield can be good for that, space them every 20 secs

[prime elk]

Exactly what I do

[midnight epoch]

what do people think about crit chance + carapace for this? (assuming the blessings are fine?)

[prime elk]

Precog is annoying to trigger and generally not recommended

[vocal cliff]

I like to run riposte

Even if I liked running precog prior riposte fees more consistent

[harsh urchin]

cara + unyielding would be good

[midnight epoch]

ah I'll do that then, what about shred instead?

[hexed geyser]

What's the current generally prefered loadout of curios for psykers?

[harsh urchin]

shred is good for boss dmg

[long wharf]

another day, another batch of curdled Sour Milk offerings

I can't say c-hode

interesting

[cosmic sigil]

That's not what people said about precog on the knife. So what's different except the pov?

[hexed geyser]

You dodge a lot more on the knife, mostly in melee so it's easier to trigger than on a sword

[cunning bone]

Wave of mutants come rolling in, should i smite or surge staff?

[long wharf]

you're dodging almost constantly with a knife

[long wharf]

neither, you stab them each in the face, one after the other

put that deimos/ds4 to use

[cunning bone]

Gay

Tried

Literally the game i just got out of

[cosmic sigil]

Find a bait.

[hexed geyser]

I don't want to be that guy, but it might be a bit of a skill issue

[cunning bone]

Killed a few but we still got raped

[hexed geyser]

Or lack of practice

[cunning bone]

Sobbing

[long wharf]

absolutely a skill issue

[hexed geyser]

Most people but maniac perk on their sword for this exact reason

[long wharf]

I smile when I hear mutants spawn

because I know I'm going to stab them in the face

I actually enjoy the mutant waves maelstroms

[urban sandal]

until they're hiding poxbursters behind them

[long wharf]

just adds to the spice

[restive slate]

Anyone use the other duelling swords anymore?

[long wharf]

for flavor/funsies, I'm sure

but ds4 is objectively superior

[cunning bone]

Im sitting on 300k gold left

Good enough or should i keep testing my luck?

[long wharf]

it's borderline for what I'd consider minimum modifiers for upgrading

but the stat distro is good

[hexed geyser]

Keep going. The godroll might be the next one

[potent echo]

Good enough to roll imo

God roll means nothing if hadron bricks it

[cunning bone]

Id rather have 80 mobility cause im addicted to speed

[potent echo]

Just send them all to the hadron grinder

[long wharf]

then you already have your answer

keep pulling the slot-machine lever

[cunning bone]

You right

[hexed geyser]

The perfect one is always on the next roll. The one you never bother to do

[cunning bone]

😭

[long wharf]

well, on the rare occassion, you do get a perfect roll

but that's exceedingly rare

[cunning bone]

Shit i thought i got the god roll too

[indigo heron]

First part is winner mentality second one is looser mentality

[hexed geyser]

Yeah, depends if i'm on a win or loss streak i suppose

If i won my last 5 games i'll keep going for the perfect one. If i lost the last 5 i'll keep going because i want something better

[tawny jetty]

Looking for advice on this one. Thinking of switching Surgical to Deadly Accurate. This is on a Zealot but you know why I'm here

[long wharf]

that's classic addiction behavior

[white wolf]

I hate her I hate her

this system makes me legit not want to play or spend mats until it's fixed

[long wharf]

yep, it doesn't feel good

[white wolf]

this was a grey for the record

[long wharf]

I believe it

I've had Hadron brick many a well-rolled weapons, posting in here for siblings to share in my pain

misery loves company

[white wolf]

"Go. There is killing to be done."

gripping staff tightly Yeah, you're totally right...

[potent echo]

"I'll start with you, Hadron"

[white wolf]

she's the Great Filter for my gear

[long wharf]

it's the only joy Hadron experiences any more