Unless the purge staff, the blaster staffs jump with peril. I see a lot of people over doing it.
#psyker-class
odd charm
long wharf
that staff is bricked
hexed geyser
Yup it's dead
crimson holly
Did you Play It for 10+ Rounds?
prime saddle
im not sure i cant remember
crimson holly
If you are fresh 30 or unsure
odd charm
what the fuck is even that.
prime saddle
ok
odd charm
Run n Gun on a purge is fucking hilarious.
oh, its not a purge. doesn't matter. that is still ass on a staff.
long wharf
run-n-gun on any staff is stupid
hexed geyser
Probably the only staff where it would be workable
crimson holly
You can Always get a better on 🙂
prime saddle
yea i guessed so
long wharf
well
hexed geyser
It's got decent stats and it's better than a white one, so you could use that until you get a new one
long wharf
I still hate the aiming for trauma
long wharf
but a good trauma staff can perform wonders at high enemy densities
odd charm
crimson holly
In only Meele yes
long wharf
damn fine
odd charm
I call this the nut cracker.
crimson holly
No Warpnexus!
long wharf
I prefer warp nexus over warp flurry on my void staff
but that's personal taste
warp nexus helps me stagger-lock bosses
flurry is better against hordes
crimson holly
But i can still BE disgusted by His 😄
odd charm
Surge is a nice suprise when I burn ogryn sized holes in mobs
long wharf
yep, both projectiles have their own cleave
prime saddle
is nexus the one that reduces peril on weak spot hits?
hexed geyser
I feel like nexus flurry surge and transfer are all perfectly fine, just a preference choice
long wharf
so you go from killing 10 to killing 20 enemies
crimson holly
is nexus the one that reduces peril on weak spot hits?
No +20% crit
prime saddle
ok
long wharf
is nexus the one that reduces peril on weak spot hits?
you're thinking of Transfer Peril
prime saddle
ok
crimson holly
If you want lafloot you can add me and i can send you some Builds or Just Help If wished 🙂
But i for once will Go to bed now
prime saddle
thanks that would be great :)
ember orbit
There is a gold Surge Force Staff in the bounty vender guy, should I buy it?
restive slate
Ok, so I've tried Purgatus with Scryiers Gaze. Thats quite the experience
Very powerful bursts of damage... with risk of bursting myself
prime elk
There is a gold Surge Force Staff in the bounty vender guy, should I buy it?
Gold doesn’t mean shit tbh
Post a screenshot of the staff
Milks is a ripoff much of the time
Gotta be really selective what you spend your hard earned currency on
long wharf
I only use Milkies to buy T4 blessings I don't have
or the rare unicorn weapon Sour Milk may be offering
restive slate
What to do if my T4 collection is complete?
long wharf
then you won the game
you beat John Warhammer
and you are now free to do whatever else you want
odd charm
Thoughts?
prime elk
I only use Milkies to buy T4 blessings I don't have
Yeah same
prime elk
Thoughts?
Crit hit damage is basically worthless sadly.
And I’d rather take uncanny strike over riposte
shadow wigeon
Meh. Just tried Assail/Void DD to see if Assail would make a difference in 30 DD stacks. Doesn't really, and feels like a weird distraction to Void. Maybe there's something there if you really lean into Assail headshots and DD.
30 DD stacks does feel pretty bananas though, it's fun to dip into that again
shadow wigeon
Ok, so I've tried Purgatus with Scryiers Gaze. Thats quite the experience
Nice, glad you tried it haha. It works eh? But it's so much work.
odd charm
I feel like it works. This is what I was using before. But I hated the animation locking.
shadow wigeon
It does make Purg feel powerful again
lavish wigeon
Im trying to find a decent chain lightning build for my friend to try, since assail isnt as good anymore
restive slate
Nice, glad you tried it haha. It works eh? But it's so much work.
Yesss I did, lots of micromanagement but the result was there haha
There were moments I forgot I wasn't using Venting Shriek and pressed F while exploding haha
shadow wigeon
There were moments I forgot I wasn't using Venting Shriek and pressed F while ex...
Yeah that even happens to me when I go bubble sometimes.
it is the most micro, because of how long you can stay in Scrier's easily.
restive slate
Yep, 10 seconds or so and the effect is up again
But man, I feel it now. Purgatus takes much longer to kill compared to other staves
shadow wigeon
I can't really remember why I stopped playing it. I think just because of how much micro there was versus not doing anything "special" per se, just more damage.
cold ivy
Surge staff is probably the easiest staff to roll cuz the blessing pool is so small
restive slate
Surge could very well be the strongest staff now
prime elk
Skip
cold ivy
What you're looking for is like one good t4 perk on a good base and iirc the rest is almost guaranteed
prime elk
The base stats are terrible and none is the blessings are t4
shadow wigeon
But man, I feel it now. Purgatus takes much longer to kill compared to other sta...
Yeah, Purg is really slow now. Scrier's makes it feel "strong" again, but giving up all your other tools. No defense, no ranged. Fun build though.
mild kite
Unpopular opinion... I don't like the darts. I prefer popping heads and my favorite is smite
restive slate
Does anyone use Focused Channeling anymore?
restive slate
Unpopular opinion... I don't like the darts. I prefer popping heads and my favor...
I may have... stopped using assail in any of my builds
unreal axle
if I have the talents that spread soulblaze on elite kills and also on any enemy dying, can it jump onto a sleeping daemonhost? I feel crippled in my purgatus build because I'm too afraid to even kill enemies near it xD
shadow wigeon
That is definitely one of the worst itms I've seen in his shop. Do not buy.
mild kite
Also... getting the warp charge penance sucks.
mild kite
I like head pop cause I like it when my sword insta kills maulers
restive slate
The reduced cooldowns is too good
ornate hamlet
Assail locking you out of psykinetic aura is a big sad
Is that not the 5% elites aura?
mild kite
My favorite ranged weapon for psyker is the Quickdraw revolver
shadow wigeon
is assail common at lower difficulties? I don't see it very often in auric/mael
restive slate
My favorite ranged weapon for psyker is the Quickdraw revolver
Zarona or Agri?
restive slate
is assail common at lower difficulties? I don't see it very often in auric/mael
Its claimed to carry new Psykers to level 30
mild kite
Zarona or Agri?
Uhhh...
restive slate
Uhhh...
Single shots or fan revolver?
Assail imo generates more peril than effect compared to other blitz
marble crater
Buying this, changing both perks and it should be good to go, yes?
mild kite
Single shots or fan revolver?
Fan
restive slate
Buying this, changing both perks and it should be good to go, yes?
Yea, it should carry until you get another with tier4 bkessings
prime elk
Hated how inaccurate the revolver felt
Missed perfectly aimed shots against specialists at 15n
15m
spice veldt
ikr
the fact that it has inaccuracy is so poopoo
why couldn't it have just been accurate but had more recoil so that you could at least control where the shot goes when you get experience with it
hexed geyser
I feel like a revo without perfect accuracy kinda defeats its purpose
prime elk
Thematically it’s very cool but I just found it really annoying to use in practice
hexed geyser
Oh yeah it's fun in theory until you get sniped because you aimed ever so slightly too far
harsh urchin
it's good on vet
cuz vet solves all the issues
but the non-fan revolver is much better on zea and psyker
vet solves the damage, accuracy, reload, suppression issues that it has
hexed geyser
Well i don't play vet so i don't play fan revolver. Problem solved for me 
loud silo
Hello, i suck with psyker so i come here to ask what blessings/perks should i look for in a purge staff
queen fog
I enjoy warp flurry on my purg staff, I snagged run and gun as well but I don’t see many rock it compared to unstable nexus so take my advice with a grain of bias
Or whichever the blessing is that gives power on high peril
restive slate
For beginners, Channeled Focusing might be good though so you don't get interrupted
wise spire
Nexus is really good for purg staff because crits apply 2 burn stacks instead of one.
hexed geyser
Probably still a better idea to go with better blessings and fix the skill issues rather than taking blessings to ignore problems that will still exist later. Not in a bad way, just a tip in general, to not avoid learning the game
But nexus and flurry are probably the best choices that comes to my head
wise spire
Hello, i suck with psyker so i come here to ask what blessings/perks should i lo...
Unyielding and Flak for Perks. Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry for Blessings. At least 76 burn stat for max burn. Decent cloud radius for range. Damage is your dump stat.
shadow wigeon
I enjoy warp flurry on my purg staff, I snagged run and gun as well but I don’t ...
Run n Gun has very limited niche value. With a Scrier's build and +speed, you can do some things with it, but it doesn't really add much t other builds.
loud silo
yea i just want to try something different with psyker, i have the class left in the dust after i got it to 30
untold verge
Deathsplitter vs fire frezy whats better
hexed geyser
Which gun?
untold verge
colmus
untold verge
i have dum dum
loud silo
Unyielding and Flak for Perks. Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry for Blessings. At leas...
you sent this message and i just rolled for one with both tier 4 nexus and flurry
and 79% burn
first try too
wise spire
How's the cloud radius?
loud silo
Shit
37
so
i got fucked anyways
all the other stats are over 70
even has flak on it
wise spire
Damn. Usable for sure.
untold verge
Deathsplitter vs fire frezy whats better
sooo
untold verge
im not asking about dum dum
untold verge
your question has been answered
I said which one is better not what is the best perk go read my question
harsh urchin
I said which one is better not what is the best perk go read my question
And I answered your exact question
But I'll answer it again since you're so insistent
They are both mediocre.
untold verge
okay i have dum dum what do i use for my second
harsh urchin
It doesn't matter
untold verge
okay what perk is better for my second death or fire
harsh urchin
what? lol
lost elk
i dont care if it isnt meta, I LOVE SWOOSHIN'
spice veldt
probably death spitter because power doesn't fall off with range like Close Damage does
untold verge
okay dis i have dum dum i want death or fire as my second what is better
harsh urchin
It doesn't matter
.
ornate hamlet
is this good?
lost elk
no xd
lost elk
bad blessings, t3 perks, only good thing is stats roll
ornate hamlet
??????
untold verge
its good chicken
lost elk
sorry youre unable to understand
ornate hamlet
you sound mad ignorant lol
lost elk
just buy it and find out if its good
untold verge
you ask why and you cant find out
lost elk
whats the worst that can happen
ornate hamlet
you ask why and you cant find out
TRUE
harsh urchin
you ask why and you cant find out
ok dude, it's fine to be asking for advice and mad that you're not hearing what you want; but giving other people bad advice is just kinda rude
it's not a very good weapon because the perks are not very good, and the blessings are not very good.
lost elk
its a waste of melkbucks though
untold verge
he can reroll
ornate hamlet
sounds like they're gatekeeping
wise spire
You can beat Damnation or even Auric with only gray gear. That autogun will work. But if you asked me if it was worth buying from Melk? No. Blessings aren't great and Perks are just bad. Best you could do is buy it and throw on Dumdum and Flak damage. It would work.
Personally? I wouldn't get it.
random jetty
im trying to find the information that says that the flames are soulblaze, where does it say that the flames of the purgatus apply soulblaze?
random jetty
where do i find that information?
potent echo
It's through testing that the community knows what it knows
Are you trying to find soulblaze damage?
spice veldt
it's not listed in game but it's there
there's the Debuff Indicator mod
if you want to see how many stacks you're applying
random jetty
Are you trying to find soulblaze damage?
where do i find that?
wise spire
im trying to find the information that says that the flames are soulblaze, where...
Basically you know it's Cool Ranch flavour because it's blue. That's it really. If you want solid proof the wildfire Talent works with flames from the Purgatus showing that it is in fact Soulblaze.
white wolf
Would be a bit odd for a staff to produce standard promethium flames without, well, promethium.
potent echo
where do i find that?
Psyker atheneum
white wolf
Although, shit. I think promethium burns blue since it's so much hotter than standard flames, so bad example. But yeah I'm also 99% sure staff fire is soulblaze
random jetty
Basically you know it's Cool Ranch flavour because it's blue. That's it really. ...
i tried it, and yeah, its soulblaze
i tried burning only 1 enemy at the meat grinder and it spread to everybody around that guy
potent echo
That might be perilous combustion and/or wildfire talent
wise spire
I don't have the exact numbers but something important for the Purgatus is the fact that Soulblaze damage stacks additively until you reach 10 stacks, after that it stacks multiplicatively. This doesn't matter for trash. But it's very important for Elites and Monster dps.
potent echo
Numbers are all in the pins
potent echo
It's 2 curves
potent echo
it's a sequence of values
Uh... 
long wharf
damage of soulblaze by stack isn't set by a curve equation
last I checked
it's a series of manually picked values for "balance"
it may sound like I'm saying the same thing, but I'm not
potent echo
Back to the real world, it looks something like this #psyker-class message
potent echo
The atheneum
long wharf
last time I graphed the values, it wasn't a clean curve
wise spire
It's been a while since I messed around with Soulblaze and I've been playing a lot of Flamer Zealot so maybe I confused Burn and Soulblaze stacking?
long wharf
I mean, that graph is absolutely a curve
it looks very similar to a slerp curve bound [0, 1]
potent echo
It's similar, but different flavoured
Different damage and duration iirc, don't quote me though, almost no one plays flamer so there's not much info
wise spire
Soulblaze is Cool Ranch and Burn is Nacho Cheese
long wharf
in fact, if this equation in the psykanium is accurate, then it's absolutely a curve
base_damage = xx(3-2*x)5000.5
zinc phoenix
it looks very similar to a slerp curve bound [0, 1]
Mmm yes I make those when I drink milkshakes
long wharf
oh, you drink SphericaL intERPolation curves too?
zinc phoenix
oh, you drink SphericaL intERPolation curves too?
Yeah man I’m the greedy triangle
wise spire
Different damage and duration iirc, don't quote me though, almost no one plays f...
I've been loving the Flamer. Even in Damnation. It's also made me better at using the Throwing Knives through necessity lol.
zinc phoenix
Lmao
long wharf
couple decades ago, I had a brilliant idea - to create a website at the domain computerporn dot com
and it'd be nothing but pictures of PC hardware
I never followed through with it, sadly
potent echo
Flamer is nice, but since there are no other sources for burning (other than ogryn PBB augment), I guess no one has the real need to research this
Just things burning = die
loud silo
LV 280 veteran went invisible and instead of picking up one of the 2 downed teammates he meleed the horde
we died
i'm having fun with the purgatus staff tho
this thing is fun
bold maple
I've been loving the Flamer. Even in Damnation. It's also made me better at usin...
go back to your steak knife omori
wise spire
go back to your steak knife omori
throws up promethium cooked steak
restive slate
I've been loving the Flamer. Even in Damnation. It's also made me better at usin...
I do this, also on my bolter build. Quick knife compensates slow draw weapons well when mastered
potent echo
Throwing knife is great on bolter and flamer
harsh urchin
throwing knife overall is kinda weak currently because ammo aura exists
i think once fatshark remove ammo aura from the game pretty much everyone will run throwing knives lol
ornate hamlet
Can survivalist refill your knives?
I wonder if they're tied to ammo gained or specific conditions
Like, I know you can replenish them picking up ammo, but not if it's the act of picking up the tin or the ammo gain that causes it
Because g*mer code
wise spire
It's specifically ammo crates, ammor pickups, and killing elites. That's it.
ornate hamlet
Sounds abnormally normal
zinc tartan
This has been a crazy fun build.
Purgatus feels really safe to use with shield for horde clear. Double Shield lets you take full advantage of Kinetic Resonance when you need to shred with Brain Rupture. EP is the icing. Chaining BR on a group of gunners is 
harsh urchin
Can survivalist refill your knives?
no it cant
but the thing is that there's no situation ever where you would rather have knives over grenades currently
due to the existence of ammo aura, even on mission modifiers like histg or no ammo pickups which are designed to choke your ammo supply, you still have infinite ammo
once ammo aura is removed and you actually do have to do more ammo management, i think throwing knives will be a lot more popular
I did a "no ammo pickups" maelstrom earlier and it was as if the mod wasn't there
because survivalist is so stupid lol
ornate hamlet
At this point I warmed up to knives, but I still prefer not to use them because their throw is subject to ping and I don't want to deal with that bullshit on a precision consumable with like 12 ammo
harsh urchin
its not too big of a deal cuz they recharge whenever you kill stuff
just throw 2 if you miss lol
sonic herald
Anyone wanna drop in while I try to get malleus monstorum?
Figured I'd ask here instead of lfg cause I figure yall are better at getting it x)
lethal lagoon
Anyone wanna drop in while I try to get malleus monstorum?
I've been putting off getting that penace forever, so I'm down for a trade.
flint latch
Anyone wanna drop in while I try to get malleus monstorum?
Is that the private game psyker penance? If so then I am also willing to help
Also need it myself
austere warren
Is that the private game psyker penance? If so then I am also willing to help
is there a difficulty setting for it?
flint latch
Heresy or higher
frosty gull
do the rapiers have a higher crit chance than usual or is that just a myth i see going around?
spice veldt
i don't think they do, though i'd have to use inventorystats to check
lethal lagoon
do the rapiers have a higher crit chance than usual or is that just a myth i see...
Nopers
Person might be confused cause Psyker has a higher base crit chance.
frosty gull
Person might be confused cause Psyker has a higher base crit chance.
interesting, like base crit is higher without any of the crit perks in general?
lethal lagoon
Base 7.5% crit yeah
frosty gull
huh, i thought it was 5% across all classes
is psyker just the acception to this rule or does each class have unique crit chances?
lethal lagoon
I think it's 2.5 Og, 5 for Vet and Zea, and 7.5 for Psyker.
Don't quote me though.
sonic herald
Is that the private game psyker penance? If so then I am also willing to help
we just got it actually lol
lethal lagoon
we just got it actually lol
What map and modifer did you use?
I guess it doesn't matter, just play a random hi-int t4 till a boss spawns.
dapper shadow
I did it for my friend a few days ago on a random no modifier difficulty 4
dapper shadow
Didnt get the chance to do it for me though
there's usually at least one daemonhost even in difficulty 4
so its not that hard to get
Your friend just gotta run shield ogryn
lethal lagoon
You can try it again next time on an auric. After all there's a higher chance apperently.
#psyker-class message
dapper shadow
sit in a corner and put the shield down
lethal lagoon
I mean at t4 you can probably just have both psykers attempting it take turns with KD
dapper shadow
yeh
Since there's like one monstrosity and one daemonhost
and shield ogryns be shield ogryns
and anyone else can just help clear the specials/ads around
Just gotta find a party in general to do it with
lethal lagoon
I'm bored wanna try to two man it 
dapper shadow
probably doable
lethal lagoon
Gotta makes sure the bots are dead first though 🙂
flint latch
Oh I can join if needed
lethal lagoon
Oh I can join if needed
I'm down grab it now, what's your fatshark code?
flint latch
9157757538
prime wyvern
it's gunker time
tribal girder
i heard soulblaze has diminishing returns but i never seen an definitive chart on what the numbers are on each stack
is it worth going to high stacks for boss damage
because i been doing very well with dome and dont want to use shriek for just more soulblaze
patent jacinth
stone canyon
If only the mobility was even 51%, so it had 5 dodges
Lastnight Zealot channel taught me that, while some people doomed&gloomed my 60% mobility combat knife (while other stats were maxed)
ember orbit
What should I be putting on my curios? I’m a staff psyker
potent echo
You want at least >200hp
The rest can be anything
Oh you need at least 20% sniper res also
Just so you don't die in 1 shot after 1 wound
chrome tundra
What should I be putting on my curios? I’m a staff psyker
I like the setup of:
Toughness curio (17% max (i think 👀)
Hp curio (21% max)
Stamina curio (+3 is max)
20% gunner resistance, 4% combat ability regen, 30% toughness regen speed.
cold ivy
if you're a noob like me who explodes every now and then thanks to peril mismanagement, consider a single +1 wound curio
stone canyon
I just picked my first 21% hp curio 10min ago for Psyker 👌
ember orbit
I like the setup of:
Toughness curio (17% max (i think 👀)
Hp curio (21% max)
St...
I’ll be using that, thanks!
tribal girder
is wild fire worth taking on a purg staff since it only targets low sb count enemies?
stone canyon
I think the idea is to pick all soulblaze talents for purg as thats what makes it work
chrome tundra
I’ll be using that, thanks!
It’s fun if you run dome shields! You can basically have enough cooldown to place domes and set another before previous expires. Super helpful for the team.
near gale
Welp, asside from this dueling sword being a bit low on the finesse stat I am pretty excited to see how Hadron destroyed my hopes and dreams for it when I upgrade it to orange lol.
This is what I have been working with, otherwise x.x
tribal girder
apparently if the enemy already has 4 or more stacks of soul blaze, wild fire would not spread to it
near wyvern
apparently if the enemy already has 4 or more stacks of soul blaze, wild fire wo...
I will spread 4 stacks in that case
Unless you are talking about the enemy that is next to the one who died, in that case 4 stack soulblazed will consume 1 spread stack to refresh duration and 5 or more stacks of soulblaze will not get targeted by wildfire
tribal girder
I will spread 4 stacks in that case
so in a purgatus build where i am spraying everything evenly with stacks, wild fire is not very useful?
i run dome not shriek
haughty star
how do i durable on psyker
potent echo
It will prebake the horde behind the door
But other than those niche situations the effect is kind of meh
haughty star
shooting for one health and 2 toughness with toughness, health and regen speed
near gale
Gotta love how with t4 transfer peril you can just left click with the voidstrike to reduce your peril, as long as you get headshots >.>
potent echo
And the biggest issue is the opportunity cost, psyker has alot of better talents
tribal girder
And the biggest issue is the opportunity cost, psyker has alot of better talents
thx
near gale
I can't wait to get a voidstrike with a high warp resistance instead of a high quell speed... but this is what I got atm... I have t3 flak because I was too poor to afford the t4 perk x.x
haughty star
how do i wanna run my curios on my psyker?
near gale
it was a choice between keeping 20% carapace damage or 8% crit damage, so I chose the one that I would find more useful :/
potent echo
how do i wanna run my curios on my psyker?
You want 200hp minimum and 20% sniper resist
The rest you can run anything
haughty star
will one health curio do that?
potent echo
You need two iirc
haughty star
i have a shiny 20 percent one with a locked 5 health stat
potent echo
Or one with multiple 5% health perks
haughty star
yeah i was gonna do two toughness with one health and all health, all toughness, then one resist to snipers bombers and flamers
potent echo
Yea 1 health curio with multiple health perks
The rest you can do whatever
You can go full health why not
haughty star
it's doing OKAY in grade 5 it's just so glassy lol
near gale
You want 200hp minimum and 20% sniper resist
does 3 20% sniper and gunner resists with 159 toughness and 198 hp work?
potent echo
Movement is the main thing that helps you stay alive
potent echo
does 3 20% sniper and gunner resists with 159 toughness and 198 hp work?
Why not, it's just more resist
But sniper does 120.5 damage per shot
near gale
I probably could forgo some sniper resist for some more hp or toughness, tbh...
I just don't have amazing curios on my psyker :/
haughty star
i'm a big fan of bomber resist
because the fucks always find the right time to throw the wrong grenade at you
potent echo
So 20% res puts it at 98 dmg
So you can survive more than 2 sniper shots
With 200hp
haughty star
i'm doing brain burst with venting shriek and empowered psyonics
near gale
so with my full resistance that I have for snipers they do ~62 damage if I get tagged
haughty star
illyses force sword is my main weapon or dps doooer
potent echo
It's multiplicative
near gale
which means I can tank 3 shots without going down from full hp
I know
I multiplied 120.5 x 0.8 x 0.8 x 0.8
potent echo
So yea
haughty star
what should i have that's not a staff for my secondary
potent echo
Main reason for me is one 1 wound, you won't die to sniper
That's good enough for me
near wyvern
so in a purgatus build where i am spraying everything evenly with stacks, wild f...
Yea and no. If you only mindlessly flame one way it's not adding that much since only the new targets that run in will get some stacks, however, if you do only do 1/2 to fulm RMB which is plenty of stacks to kill all the trash, you can flame 2 or 3 directions and effectively multiply your DPS
Soulblaze has exponential scaling for the first 10 stacks. Wildfire allows you to start from 4 stacks instead of 0 which ramps up your damage a lot faster. Anything above 8-10 stacks on trash is overkill and doesn't really affect the time to kill that much, purgarus does around 3 stacks per second and crits apply double stacks, so you only really need to flame each target for a second when you have wildifire going on.
near gale
if I change my hp curio to a toughness one I can only take 2 shots. I go to 178 toughness and 165 hp instead of 159 toughness and 198 hp :/
Meh I want the hp curio, tbh
haughty star
why go HP tho you always get tough back
near gale
I just wish I could get 1 more +15 toughness talent, tbh
haughty star
not a critizism just wondering
near gale
why go HP tho you always get tough back
So that I am a little more stable on my overall build, since I am not 100% used to playing psyker. I have had mixed luck in the past with 3 toughness curios, so I want to try 2 toughness and 1hp for my curios
potent echo
If I go DD or EP I can get extra toughness node
Some people go pure hp
It just allows you to make more mistakes
harsh urchin
@spice veldt were you able to figure out if vet can tank a sniper to toughness without overshield?
near gale
Personally I am a huge fan of full toughness curio loadouts
I usually do 3 toughness curios on zealot and even Ogryn sometimes. I mix it up between hp and toughness on my Ogryn tho
potent echo
I used to run full toughness and then I die to a sniper when on one wound
near gale
For my Vet I learned that I want 1 or 2 hp curios, tho
lethal lagoon
I used to run full toughness and then I die to a sniper when on one wound <:KEKW...
Skill issue 🙂
(also I run 40-60% sniper DR on all my chars.)
haughty star
i don't ever really have issues with snipers unless i fuck up bad
potent echo
Cool, but what if, Deez nuts
near gale
Also: Gotta love the description of the 250 assassinations portrait, hehe.
near wyvern
how do i durable on psyker
1 stam 2 toughness, kinetic deflection from talents. Learn to use sprint slides, dodges, dodge slides and pushes. Psykers are extremely tanky but require active defense. It's a learning curve.
haughty star
1 stam 2 toughness, kinetic deflection from talents. Learn to use sprint slides,...
i got deflector on my force sword and that shit is DOPE
tribal girder
Yea and no. If you only mindlessly flame one way it's not adding that much since...
i ll keep that in mind. Rn my computer cant run mods and has low fps so i am limited to playing spray and pray. When my good pc gets fixed I will play like you say when i can see enemy hp
noble copper
whats a good build for flurry/rend trauma?
lethal lagoon
whats a good build for flurry/rend trauma?
Rolling a Blaze Trauma
haughty star
with the perk that converts stamina into peril on my build i can just sit there and tank if i have to push forward
near wyvern
i got deflector on my force sword and that shit is DOPE
Deflector is nice when you start out but if you focus on learning positioning and movement you will grow out of it
haughty star
i just like it cuz i can look around at what's going on for a second in damnation lol
fucking randoms push so hard you don't know if shit's coming from front or back
they act like they run really fast and the enemies despawn lol
spice veldt
<@297182781346152448> were you able to figure out if vet can tank a sniper to to...
nah i haven't tested it, though my initial impression is that it's impossible
tribal girder
Deflector is nice when you start out but if you focus on learning positioning an...
also i watched your purg staff video and its a very refreshing to see purg to be played that fast.
haughty star
the enemies never go away, they just move forward to overwhelm you elsewhere lmao
ornate hamlet
they act like they run really fast and the enemies despawn lol
Being fast is just better for Auric
near wyvern
i ll keep that in mind. Rn my computer cant run mods and has low fps so i am lim...
I don't use HP bar mods. You will get the feel by practicing. The only mod you actually need is NumericUI for the dodge counter to see when your dodges reset.
ornate hamlet
The faster you are the less the game gets mad and suddenly spams waves of garbage at you
harsh urchin
nah i haven't tested it, though my initial impression is that it's impossible
mathematically it seems possible
but i dont think it's worth?
ornate hamlet
The ideal is that you actually move forward while fighting if possible
near wyvern
also i watched your purg staff video and its a very refreshing to see purg to be...
Oh you watched it already 😅
lethal lagoon
whats a good build for flurry/rend trauma?
I thought someone would give you a real answer after my joke 😆 , anyway, here's a standard build.
haughty star
The faster you are the less the game gets mad and suddenly spams waves of garbag...
yeah but running past hordes of ragers or maulers is not a good idea the director don't despawn them lol
it just puts them in front of you again
noble copper
I thought someone would give you a real answer after my joke 😆 , anyway, here's...
ty! 🙂
spice veldt
mathematically it seems possible
oh right i forgor about sniper res
ornate hamlet
it just puts them in front of you again
Depending on the map you're in that can be better or worse
Learning how to keep pace with pubs is also just a pub skill anyway, and why I don't play Psyker unless I feel like tryharding or use bubble.
harsh urchin
oh right i forgor about sniper res
1225*.5*.67*.8*.8*.8
ornate hamlet
Pubs are just so wildly inconsistent
potent echo
Pubs
harsh urchin
with IW, + close order drill + curios
haughty star
id just rather move steady
harsh urchin
meaning you can tank it with 210 toughness
but 3x sniper curios is
too much investment imo
near wyvern
Depending on the map you're in that can be better or worse
Learning how to kee...
Just play the Psylot build and go fast, allies except knife zealots will have it hard time to keep up with you
lethal lagoon
Pubs are snail pace though 99% of the time.
All that spd will just be running in circle with the zoomies
I'm always pushing the front on any build
haughty star
90 percent of the people i run into just ran past half the shit lol i don't know the pubs you dealing with
haughty star
I'm always pushing the front on any build
you mean running past everything threatening so your teammates have to eat it? lol
lethal lagoon
I'm usually pretty far in front of damage, so no
I'm also the only motherfucker on the planet who kills ranged mobs and bruisers, esp the lone ones 😦
near wyvern
Pubs are snail pace though 99% of the time.
Nah it's not that high percentage.
haughty star
i'm just talking about dudes with knife zealots and shit that just zip around past anything large lol like somehow they're gonna win if their teamates die to the heavy shit they leave behind
lethal lagoon
Darktide is in it's waning phase atm, so it's definitely not 99 atm
Maels are boring again
I guess it depends on time of play and server location though
I play too late.
haughty star
darktide is like a year old i wouldn't say it's waning
lethal lagoon
I mean waning after the huge burst after patch 13
It was sticking around 13-15k for a long time
and now it's finally dropping hard
Steam charts I mean
There's still xbox and gamepass sure, but I imagine the trend is similar there
haughty star
i wanna get one of those razor naga mice for this nonsense lol all this dodging and weapon changes and sliding got my pinky hurtin
lethal lagoon
Become a hero instead
haughty star
gross
lethal lagoon
.<
haughty star
nah i won't switch from razer my kbm are over two years old and still feel brand new
ornate hamlet
There's still xbox and gamepass sure, but I imagine the trend is similar there
It's just part of the cycle of Darktide being mostly patch based
lethal lagoon
yeah, I know, it's just sad cause it's probably quitting time for me too soon.
ornate hamlet
New updates are needed to bring back
lethal lagoon
I'm completeing contracts less and less 🥹
ornate hamlet
It's all good
Don't be sad you're quitting
Be happy you had a fun time before you did
haughty star
tbh game was trash before the skill trees came about
ornate hamlet
Once the game stops being fun
It's best to put it down because there's no sense playing something you dislike
near wyvern
i'm just talking about dudes with knife zealots and shit that just zip around pa...
Yeah I had to solo half a horde a day ago because the three others were on a speed run and I happened to be the target for two mutants and a dog but they didn't care
lethal lagoon
Nah, this is objectively the best horde type gameplay on the market, so I wouldn't call it trash. More like hidden Early Access game pretending to be a full release.
haughty star
nah it was like trash endgame borderlands for me before
now it's like a gory borderlands endgame
near wyvern
You get more loot in Borderlands tho
lethal lagoon
Yeah I had to solo half a horde a day ago because the three others were on a spe...
"Bro, hurry up, we are waiting"
haughty star
"Bro, hurry up, we are waiting"
Spams ping 23 times
lethal lagoon
Also said by the guy with the least damage of course
Because not having scoreboard definitely reduces toxicity
idle bay
Spams ping 23 times
While having 150 plasteel in view and not picking it up 🙂
lethal lagoon
I mean the metaphorical "Spams ping 23 times" guy.
haughty star
I mean the metaphorical "Spams ping 23 times" guy.
i know i was just making a statement lol
lethal lagoon
Ah, just making sure lmao
lethal lagoon
While having 150 plasteel in view and not picking it up 🙂
"I never have enough plasteel"
Also them at the end of a t5: 30 10
haughty star
ok but then there's guys that'll be out sniffing the roses on grade 3 maelstroms that you're doing for money
like they're actually gonna see meaningful mats from it
lethal lagoon
grade 3 maelstroms also give a bizzare amount of exp, nice for when I was lvling my friend.
haughty star
had one guy search the whole damn map on a bet once to find 160ps and like 60 d
I just do them for money so i can buy a boatload of crappy grey weapons until that one pops
half iron
i knew it was a small plasteel stash. i took it anyway because i am a gremlin
hexed geyser
Nice dump stat lol
haughty star
is melee psyker a decent build?
im doing force sword and i don't know what to do for a gun
need my peril for quick BBs so i don't wanna run a staff
i guess what's just a general all around good gun to fill in the gaps between BB and sword
like
downing shooters
hexed geyser
There's a funny one with like illisi and a blessing called bloodthirsty or something like that... Crit every attack for insane cleave and damage
haughty star
all of the blessings for the illisi look savage as shit if i'm being honest
im gonna keep my deflector one and make a different one just cuz the deflector is flat out cool for some of the missions on damnation
hexed geyser
Yeah it's balanced weapon right now. Everything is decent but there's still better options
haughty star
what would be a good gun to fill in the gaps between brain burst and melee?
untold widget
with illisi? Probably revolver or laspistol
hexed geyser
Columnus, it's just good for psykers
haughty star
basically the only thing i struggle with is like ads shooters
hexed geyser
Or a revo yeah
haughty star
i am a revolver enjoyer..
hexed geyser
There you go
haughty star
not a huge fan of the new one tho
haughty star
zarona just slaps
untold widget
i like the new revolver, especially when you get some sick shots off with the hammer fan
hexed geyser
You know, it shoots piercing rounds because of the size, but with a revolver design
haughty star
piercing, accuracy and damage come at too big of a cost on the new one imo
it's so weak its almost sad
haughty star
Columnus, it's just good for psykers
but the columnus autoguns are pretty good at dropping ads?
like headhunter or the other one
near gale
Hm, I'm tempted to try this with the surge staff tbh... for the talents near the top.
hexed geyser
but the columnus autoguns are pretty good at dropping ads?
I suppose it does, it's the main gunker weapon but i don,t use it.
near gale
Hm, I'm tempted to try this with the surge staff tbh... for the talents near the...
This is with assail
hexed geyser
Anyone knows what is the dump stat for illisis?
haughty star
it's so dumb lol the thing i often fail to mitigate is ads with guns
they just pick you apart in those long areas if noones runnning anything great at ranged
lethal lagoon
Hm, I'm tempted to try this with the surge staff tbh... for the talents near the...
Embrace Eternity
haughty star
Embrace Eternity
haughty star
Anyone knows what is the dump stat for illisis?
ithere's nothing in the info about it
or am i not seeing
hexed geyser
I know, that's why i ask lol
lethal lagoon
hexed geyser
Well i got a few weird ones i upgraded a bit for blessing farm, anything worth keeping?
haughty star
then i got unarmored and maniacs for perks
haughty star
Well i got a few weird ones i upgraded a bit for blessing farm, anything worth k...
finesse is important for illyses imo but im kind of a knob
hexed geyser
Finesse is always important, i don,t think i like the first one.
lethal lagoon
Well i got a few weird ones i upgraded a bit for blessing farm, anything worth k...
I would personally use the top right, but none of em are great. Low damage unfortunately.
lethal lagoon
I don't know how bad 29% mobility will fel
So I'd personally run that just to check
haughty star
i don't wanna know lol
hexed geyser
I can test it i guess, because if it's fine that's a good sword.
hexed geyser
It somehow still has 5 dodges, and -8.15% distance. Sprint speed doesn't matter so it's not too bad i think
hexed geyser
And what about that one?
haughty star
mine has 64 warp resist and it's not awful
it's not a stave and ideally you're not charging all the time
just when you gotta show that maniac who his dad is for me or show off to the bois
what exactly does the charge even do?
i just like it because it's a lawnmower
hexed geyser
The charge just increases the power a lot
haughty star
and what exactly does power do?
hexed geyser
Damage, cleave and impact
hexed geyser
Yeah, some thammer or axes that can get up to +20% power means you get a lot more of everything
haughty star
If i had to run deflector like wouldn't let it go.... What would be a good perk for illyses to complement that?
blessing i mean
basically if you could only pick one blessing for illyses what owuld it be
vale nacelle
Blazing Spirit.
haughty star
i'll try for it. i got unstable power on it rn but it's level four
potent echo
Update when
haughty star
okay i got a columnus with 79 damage 78 mobility 78 ammo and 79 stopping power
51 stability
is that a deal breaker?
potent echo
Not really no
orchid shadow
i'll try for it. i got unstable power on it rn but it's level four
Go for Slaughterer
Unstable is also decent, better with a low warp resistance version as you can power up once or twice for more peril and get an instant jump on power.
honest knoll
holy shit this is straight from the hands of hadron, I haven't rerolled any of this
The emperor truly blesses me this day
orchid shadow
Carapace is okay-ish and you can change infested to Flak. But that Terrifying Barrage should get switched to Flurry
honest knoll
I don't have flurry. and infested would definitely get swapped off but for stats handed to me by rng, I'll gladly take em
Mostly the fact that both terrifying barrage and warp nexus are tier 4 and I got the tier 4 warp nexus on a staff with an 80% crit bonus already
lethal lagoon
Carpace isn't the BiS in terms of overall DPS, but crushers can be a major threat. Plus melee maels.
honest knoll
I'd be a fool to ask more of hadron
lethal lagoon
Barrage to flurry, infested to flak, solid staff
young ridge
I like +carapace
orchid shadow
Should be fairly easy to get at least T3 Flurry on an separate staff to roll off. For good and for bad, Surge has a dismal amount of blessings in it's pool.
sullen bobcat
Carapace is okay imo. Even if it doesn't hit a break point, you're probably team shooting so it's more likely with teammates
young ridge
I think it depends on why you need the staff
I mostly use surge to babysit teammates rushing a 6 ogryn squad they obviously can't handle
Might as well hit them a bit harder
stone canyon
It's annoying there are two surges in game, i always just think of the blessing i want for my Voidstrike
Devs should have picked dictionary and look for similar word but not exact same
lethal lagoon
Should be called Splooge instead.
orchid shadow
It's even more annoying that Surge isn't on.. the Surge staff. C'mon Fatshark. It's right there! And Blazing Spirit on the staff that shoots fire!
orchid shadow
Moar. Moar fire.
ionic needle
Blazing spirit on purg would be hilarious
Imagine running gaze on a purg with blazing spirit
One LMB crit and you're on like seven stacks
plucky flax
You'd kill stuff very fast.
shadow wigeon
Mostly the fact that both terrifying barrage and warp nexus are tier 4 and I got...
You can get Flurry very easily by rolling another Surge staff. Higher base item level the better obviously. If your first blessing isn't T4 Nexus/Flurry or Terrifying Barrage (any rank), change the blessing to Barrage and then roll it to gold. You have a very high chance of rolling Flurry or Nexus. even starting with no blessings it doesnt take very long to get T4 of both. (this is specific to Surge because of small blessing pool). You just need to roll one good perk and you're good to go, generally.
stone canyon
Only 5 blessings so yeah, one of the rare ones where % are bit on your side already
near wyvern
And once you have one with double T4 you start rolling and looking for one with natural T4 nexus & flurry for the double perk fix
stone canyon
Meanwhile 9 possibilities with my Voidstrike 🧙♂️
brisk grove
One LMB crit and you're on like seven stacks
now what if soulblaze could trigger crits
brazen basalt
gentlemen, what's a practical difference between smite primary and secondary modes? is secondary straight up better?
umbral helm
secondary chains and spreads faster while primary feels more like a "you in particular sit still"
brazen basalt
does secondary work worse against a particular target?
umbral helm
not particularly, but there's merit in stopping a specific target potentially instead of the whole crowd so as to not ruin a funnel for your team or something similar
most people will just use the secondary anyway, but that's the use I could see it having
brazen basalt
maybe, i guess. ok, thanks.
gilded ember
is 1% burn THAT important?
umbral helm
if you care about minmaxxing, yes. otherwise no
brazen basalt
zero difference whatsoever. press V and take a look. burn bar determines a rate of application and stack cap. it'd be the same for both of these.
umbral helm
76 is the minimum needed for max stacks iirc, so in this case yeah they both work for that purpose
gilded ember
someone else also said i should switch the 25% more dmg perk with more chrit chance but idk
talking about the one on the right
umbral helm
run a few missions with one, swap to the other and run a few missions with that, stick with the one you feel does better. play more missions as needed
that's how I'd go about it, anyway. but I operate more on feel than raw numbers usually
brazen basalt
crit on purga only applies 2 stacks instead of 1, so doesn't do a whole lot. damage perk is better.
umbral helm
it helps reach the stack cap faster, but both have merit. hence "test which feels better"
gilded ember
Yeah fair but i might just stick to Maniac dmg
near wyvern
does secondary work *worse* against a particular target?
No but it takes 1 second to charge it up where as if you want to push a single burster, stop a running/jumping dog or interrupt a flamer, netter or a bomber it only requires one quick tap of LMB which is almost instant
ionic needle
crit on purga only applies 2 stacks instead of 1, so doesn't do a whole lot. dam...
wat
noble copper
praise the rng
drifting violet
praise the rng
Congratulations 😎👍
plucky flax
Not surge voidstrike 
noble copper
tried to build it but i got this 😄
plucky flax
Xd
ionic needle
I think I have to leave the DT facebook group. Someone just brag posted about this. Why did he do that to his revolver? What did it do to him?
vestal fulcrum
I think I have to leave the DT facebook group. Someone just brag posted about th...
The game doesn’t really do a great job at telling you what critical damage is, so it may appear as a good perk to include initially on your weapons
And people usually don’t bother reading more than what they should about the game, hence they might think it increases the total damage on critical hits. Bigger hit = good, right?
More crits = better, right?
ionic needle
Yeah totally, I remember thinking crit damage was good at the start. Crit damage is usually good in games, it's just this one with the weird math. But why didn't he even look up good blessings for it?
vestal fulcrum
Evaluating blessings on your experience is also rarely productive if you can just ask people here, in this Discord or any other space where somebody with more expertise might help. Or you will keep any blessings you might have, because one does not care what they do, if anything of significance.
rapid widget
I was rolling out some Columnus MKV IAGs for my Scrier's Psker build and I got this fucker
I basically one clip Nurgle.
vestal fulcrum
Yeah totally, I remember thinking crit damage was good at the start. Crit damage...
Sounds like a lot of effort.
rapid widget
And then the Maccabian I was trying to pair it with came out like this
vestal fulcrum
I basically one clip Nurgle.
This could use Dumdum as a blessing
rapid widget
Yeah. Dumdum to replace Deathspitter was what I was going to do. Just need to actually roll it 😩
The last 7 Columnuseseses I've rolled have all proc'd Deathspitter first
ionic needle
Both of those are really good. Awesome getting 25 unyielding naturally like that.
rapid widget
My only gripe with the dueling sword is that I wish the dump stat would have been Cleave and not Finesse.
ionic needle
I'd probably roll carapace and shred on the mk 4 though
But maybe riposte works out too, there's a whole lot of dodging involved when running mk 4
rapid widget
The Riposte works so well with it, tbh
I tried it on one with, and one without, Riposte and the perk just makes crits proc constantly.
Alongside all the other bonuses.
stone canyon
Shred vs Riposte though?
drifting violet
Shred vs Riposte though?
Riposte
stone canyon
This then isn't quite right
I leveled up with Uncanny+Riposte and really liked it
ionic needle
Between shred and riposte I think it's very much up to playstyle. Both give equivalent amounts of crit but just trigger in different ways.
stone canyon
Picked from Melk's because knew those will be good once i hit lvl 30 too sacrificed and reblessed
ionic needle
I like shred more because I tend to block push a lot when fighting hordes so dodging out of attacks isn't really something I do mid fight like that
stone canyon
Im like non-stop sidestep evading so i suppose Riposted might work better for me
Do the vermintide2 style circling of the horde blob
Also probably caught it from starting with Zealot and seeing backstab talent --> okay gotta sidestep to hit their backs
ionic needle
That worked better in VT2, hordes in DT are smarter and surround you easier
stone canyon
Yeah ive noticed, its not like herding sheep anymore
drifting violet
Yeah ive noticed, its not like herding sheep anymore
It’s easier to do it in open map areas
stone canyon
But its addictive playstyle and makes you feel like you on top of things
drifting violet
But still, yea it’s hard
paper loom
this worth a buy from Melk?
ionic needle
A lot more sneaky bastards in this game, VT2 was maybe a bit too fair in that regard
cobalt bone
I Love Block pushing with psyker force sword
ionic needle
this worth a buy from Melk?
Yes
drifting violet
this worth a buy from Melk?
Gamble and upgrade it
stone canyon
If you dont have Surge yet, GET IT
Also tiny chance of lucking out Warp Nexus on it
ionic needle
I Love Block pushing with psyker force sword
I wish it did damage though, so annoyed every time I swap over to a force sword and the block push just pushes them!?!?
rapid widget
Man, I don't think I've ever block pushed a single horde.
ionic needle
What about a face stab? A cool sweep?
rapid widget
That's what the chained attack after is for.
ionic needle
Nexus and surge for blessings, perks I'm not sure since I don't really enjoy voidstrike
ionic needle
Ah yes of course
rapid widget
Flak should basically be a built in perk by this point. It goes on literally everything.
stone canyon
Feel like i spend more time watching the website that shows store contents than playing the game, which leads to another point, should level all the classes so could do it for all instead of just 2
stone canyon
Lack of freetime/gamingtime is only thing holding back
Also my deep dislike for Shia Labeouf
mossy surge
Lack of freetime/gamingtime is only thing holding back
At least enjoy this shite while you can't play.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/190v6y0/this_section_the_slammer_of_magistratutum_hl1866/
(it's painful to watch) 
stone canyon
Your vid? I also just joined the Crusher club, but only had time to play with it once
I kept bonking people on the floor and running, just to notice they stood up and didnt die on first bonk
drifting violet
Then keep bonking them
stone canyon
Yes lesson learned
mossy surge
I kept bonking people on the floor and running, just to notice they stood up and...
It's a redditor
stone canyon
Yes its the guide i actually followed too + some advise here
mossy surge
Made by our lord saviour, @lunar hollow 
The man who sacrifice lots of resources to get a god tier crusher
stone canyon
I just grabbed the first one that wasnt total ass, to see how the gameplay is
Honestly kept forgetting the L+H+L+H hordeclear and so on, but was my first time out with it
Has room for 1 change more
Think i was out of materials to do it
ionic needle
At least enjoy this shite while you can't play.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTid...
Oh yes, fucking love that part both on gunker and purgatus
Always scramble to have ammo and cds ready for it haha
mossy surge
Oh yes, fucking love that part both on gunker and purgatus
The main thing to look at the horrendous crusher push attack spam 
hasty breach
i guess im keeping deflector. i plan to swap crit to unyielding and burning spirit to uncanny strike but ive heard a lot about executor
would probably go with a purgatus build so deflector isnt a disaster for out of range stuff
magic hull
whats a good blessing for voidstrike?
drifting violet
whats a good blessing for voidstrike?
Warp Nexus + Surge usually
near wyvern
Warp Nexus and then either Warp Flurry or Surge depends what you are after
drifting violet
Transfer peril if you want to use scrier’s gaze ability lol
tulip kettle
There is no reason to go surge and nexus if you aren't also going carapace and elite dmg, with the purpose of 1 shotting maulers and crushers on damn
Otherwise go flurry and transfer for infinite casting of fully charged shots without quelling
magic hull
Warp Nexus + Surge usually
alright im farming surge
still looking for a decent voidstrike staff
i have been playing purgatus for too long
drifting violet
alright im farming surge
🫡GL
magic hull
and maybe warp flurry so that i can send hail storm of explosions
loud silo
So uhhh
i wasn't recording
but i just joined a match
and i spawned under the map
and died
near wyvern
Fatshark quality
jovial zodiac
hey psyker femboys hows this
near wyvern
Good but not perfect
plush oak
i guess im keeping deflector. i plan to swap crit to unyielding and burning spir...
Deflector is great, id switch blazing spirit to slaughterer or unstable power
jovial zodiac
what blessings do people take on a dueling sword
quartz barn
Ideally shred and uncanny strike
quartz barn
You can also swap shred for rampage, or just use any of the dodge blessing
jovial zodiac
makes sense
quartz barn
I have shred on ds so checks out lmao
jovial zodiac
do you have it because its locked or by choice
quartz barn
By choice, pref it since i mostly use it on single target specials and movement, not general use
Rampage is good when combined with pushing, but i never melee after that
Tldr pick whatever fits your playstyle
devout robin
who tf takes shred
shred's not bad at all
more crits is always good when psyker already has a lot of native crit chance
eats up bosses
upper sun
crit? CHANCE? that sounds a lot like chaos....
near wyvern
who tf takes shred
Who tf doesn't. Piss easy to stack up and with uncanny strike results in the best melee DPS available to Psykers (DS4 poke poke)
Not to talk about how it scales with mettle and empathetic evasion
stuck sinew
mentally disabled ?
lemme guess you think Rampage is actually proccing on anything besides push attacks
drifting violet
what... is this
It’s certainly a surge staff
ionic needle
Hadroned
stuck sinew
You can shoot it while running to the dumpster
stuck sinew
queen moss
back to brunt's 365+ gacha\
drifting violet
back to brunt's 365+ gacha\
🫡GL
paper loom
Does force sword block push pox bursted back?
hot zephyr
Yeah prolly 5% crit instead of sprint eff and you're probably good
You should probably also switch carapace to flak, but you don't NEED to do that
You will also want to make sure you take Solidity in your talent build to improve that average quell speed
Unless you are going CDR + Shriek (and hence are dumping peril by shrieking a lot)
potent echo
No update
rare arrow
I agree with the above sprint eff to crit chance and then I’d leave it alone
static needle
Its depressing how the by faaar best psyker single target melee option is a single DS mark. It's like theres no other options cause its just simply superior in every way
stone canyon
First time i see 17% and been playing and checking shop daily for 3 weeks now
hot zephyr
First time i see 17% and been playing and checking shop daily for 3 weeks now
I have seen one 21% HP and I've never seen a 17% tough, and I've played since launch
You will fustrate yourself if you want best-in-slot min-max perfect gear
stone canyon
Dont have such OCD, but that was certainly instant pick, could still become useless if it rolls all 3 as useless
hot zephyr
The difference between a "perfect" and "meh" item is like 5% on rolls, which translates to like 0.5% damage calcs
stone canyon
Yeah im fine with playing items aslong as they perform their main task, some tiny % imperfections are fine
hot zephyr
For the most part, items of 350+ item level with no stats below 50% will get you results within a couple percent of theoretical results
stone canyon
But certain specific ones have strict breakpoints, like id never go below 51% mobility as then lose max evades
hot zephyr
There are a few key stats on key items, such as blast radius on trauma or cloud radius on purgatus that are very very important to be above certain thresholds for maxmimum performance, but those are edge cases and you'll find them all documented in the atheneum
upper sun
what... is this
looks ||fun|| to me
upper sun
First time i see 17% and been playing and checking shop daily for 3 weeks now
got one 17 from my boy melk
hexed geyser
Are there any illisis enjoyers here? I got a few weird ones i upgraded for blessing farm and idk if they are usable
eager mantle
Blazing spirit kinda memey. Slaughterer good
zinc phoenix
That mobility lmao
These are all maximum meme
If you have the goods upgrade em all and then whichever seems best go with it for now
eager mantle
Nah need
queen moss
i once had a revolver with a crit bonus of 10
hot zephyr
Are there any illisis enjoyers here? I got a few weird ones i upgraded for bless...
the base 344 one has the correct distribution to be a nice Flame Illisi, and already has the required level 4 Blazing Spirit.
plucky flax
It's okay meme but slaughterer would let you kill stuff a lot faster.
hexed geyser
Flame illisi is the one where you just activate every attack and destroy hordes?
I already have a 372 illisi with uncanny and riposte (locked), but i want one with deflector to run the kinetic defletion builds
plucky flax
Deflector slaughterer my fav illisi build.
mystic burrow
Flame illisi is the one where you just activate every attack and destroy hordes?
if u have bloodthristy u activate every attack, if u have shred, just normal light attack
plucky flax
With flak maniac.
dim parrot
I think slaughterer + uncanny might be mine
also thinking about going back from slaughterer + unstable to slaughterer + uncanny
the damage just isn't the same 4 me
plucky flax
Slaughterer is must on illisi. 2nd blessing is up to your playstyle. You can go more defensive and safe with deflector. More power with unstable. Or more armour piercing with uncanny.
eager mantle
Fatshark. Please. I beg of you. Let me have a force dueling sword
With the DS4 poke
plucky flax
I find slaughterer t4 gives me all the power I need for horde clear.
plucky flax
My illisi builds have crusher damage via other means.
So I don't need uncanny on mine.
eager mantle
I like exorcist on my illisi with scriers.
plucky flax
queen moss
uh... this is good right...?
hexed geyser
I think i will upgrade the 29% mobility one just to see if hadron decides to have fun with it.
plucky flax
Is okay.
queen moss
is there a blessing that is needed for the blaze sword?
eager mantle
No opinion on bloodthirsty because I still don't have it
queen moss
kinda new to psyker, normally play vet
plucky flax
Yeah slaughterer I just explained above.
For illisi in particular. For deimos it's uncanny.
queen moss
back to the hadron gacha then
eager mantle
Nothing is really "needed" but illisi is a horde clear sword and slaughterer is good to clear the horde faster
hexed geyser
You sword is fine, change executor and block eff and it should be great
For the bloodthirsty one
hexed geyser
Yeah depends if you want to keep it on of course
queen moss
hmmm
plucky flax
Light spam with illisi does a lot of horde damage with slaughterer.
paper loom
Staff got Hadron'd what should i replace
plucky flax
Weave in a few specials here and there and they'll die.
queen moss
hmmm as per usual, perk is crit rate right?
plucky flax
I'd grab surge to use on another staff. Charge rate is kinda low.
paper loom
shame
plucky flax
You got surge though. Its a very rare blessing.
harsh skiff
What all influences Brain pop damage?
rare arrow
uh... this is good right...?
Block to flak executor to slaughterer
plucky flax
What all influences Brain pop damage?
High peril if you have warp rider. Ep keystone if you have stack. Warp charges if you have stack.
turbid lantern
What are the best options for melee rn? Just started using my psyker again and I think I need to refresh my load out
queen moss
should i get that?
rare arrow
What all influences Brain pop damage?
Anything that influences all damage, warp damage, or BB damage
rare arrow
should i get that?
I don’t like the mk5
young ridge
Do we have any good monster damage options other than guns
rare arrow
So I wouldn’t
hexed geyser
ds4
plucky flax
Purgatus with creeping flame and bb is serviceable.
rare arrow
Do we have any good monster damage options other than guns
DS 4 and BB
plucky flax
Last monster maelstrom game on trauma I had 2nd highest monster damage.
plucky flax
Or even highest can't remember.
quartz barn
Depends on the team tbh
young ridge
Yeah
rare arrow
oh its just a pokey stick ala rapier for the mark V
All the dueling swords are pokey. None of them sweep
young ridge
Other classes will outperform psyker real easy if they try
plucky flax
Surge is fairly okay at monster damage too.
rare arrow
Other classes will outperform psyker real easy if they try
Agree to disagree
quartz barn
Nah thats just vs monsters
young ridge
Agree to disagree
In terms of monster damage
dim parrot
Surge is fairly okay at monster damage too.
especially with unyielding
quartz barn
Psyker has the best control and dmg output
dim parrot
I have maniac unyielding
plucky flax
You really want flak on surge
dim parrot
:c
plucky flax
Big shotgun 1 shot breakpoint.
rare arrow
I mean voidstrike with surge blessing is also fine
dim parrot
I do not
queen moss
huh... does wildfire (enemy dies to soulblaze, nearby takes 4 stacks) work with the flamethrower staff...
plucky flax
Yeah.
queen moss
as that is technically soulblaze?
plucky flax
It works with anything soulblaze related.
queen moss
oh god
plucky flax
Creeping flames too.
dim parrot
Big shotgun 1 shot breakpoint.
would u switch out maniac with flak?
cause I wanna keep unyielding
plucky flax
would u switch out maniac with flak?
Yes I would have flak as 1st perk then 2nd one up to you.
eager mantle
It's fun. You may get the occasional person being mad about the vfx but it's fun
rare arrow
Also trauma staff
sullen bobcat
Nope
rare arrow
Cloud radius is pretty important but idk how much worse that is
eager mantle
Depends on how much you got
rare arrow
It’s like the second most important stat
sullen bobcat
Cloud radius being down affects range iirc too
queen moss
10 more rolls then
plucky flax
Damage and warp resistance dump stat for me on purga
plucky flax
You lose monster damage with sub 76 burn.
rare arrow
Burn is it’s actual damage stat
brave fiber
purg already has such low peril gen, quell speed and warp res don’t matter too much
rare arrow
Depending on the cloud radius the first one may be better
queen moss
come on... hadron... dont fuck me over with plasteel gacha
placid crypt
Rolled this, thinking rampage to uncanny strike and one of the perks to maniac. Any thoughts?
queen moss
... not a good sign
plucky flax
Sounds good if you're not planning to horde clear with it.
eager mantle
Rolled this, thinking rampage to uncanny strike and one of the perks to maniac. ...
Not DS4. No opinion
placid crypt
I already have a good enough DS4, changing things up
brave fiber
... is it chained sec attack...????
yes
hot zephyr
... is it chained sec attack...????
yes, it works wonderfully
brave fiber
Flurry nexus are the blessings for purg
queen moss
huh
eager mantle
... is it chained sec attack...????
Yea. It's pretty much flurry and nexus 🤷♂️
queen moss
as i said, vet main here, dont know a single thing about psyker
plucky flax
Mfw I played a meme left click only purga round with nexus and run and gun (it wasn't good)
brave fiber
Purg is particularly fantastic with flurry because you can quick cast m2 and make your subsequent charges reaaally fast without losing much if any dps
hot zephyr
You just hold RMB to charge, never let go, then press LMB to burn, never letting go of RMB. As long as you hold RMB, flurry remains stacked
brave fiber
Replace both perks and it’s great
eager mantle
Yea pretty good for your 1st orange purg
queen moss
perks for this?
brave fiber
Crit chance and flak imo
brave fiber
Nah
hot zephyr
Perks to 5% crit and 25% to flak and that's great
plucky flax
Rip cloud radius man
eager mantle
Nah it does enough to unarmored
brave fiber
It’s already one of the best horde clear options, it don’t need to be better
queen moss
so flak and crit rate then\
brave fiber
Against unarmored*
rare arrow
so flak and crit rate then\
Maniac is an option also over flak
brave fiber
^
rare arrow
Crit + maniac or flak,
plucky flax
Perks is flak + unyielding/maniac/crit chance up to you for 2nd perk.
queen moss
oh yeah... ragers
brave fiber
Maniac is also good if you don’t like elite maniacs
queen moss
i kinda... plasma gun em on sight
plucky flax
I run flak unyielding personally.
brave fiber
Purg m1s already vibe check ragers tho so idc about maniac dmg on purg tbh
hot zephyr
I personally like flak/crit because outside of ragers, you are rarely burnings the other maniacs