psyker-class

[midnight jolt]

that's very close to what I have, except that I went also for wildfire

let me swap to smite though

[lethal lagoon]

There are 2 free points on what I linked, so do whatever floats your fancy.

Wildfire is pretty mid though

[wind spruce]

Atlas has two points missing (presumably so you can choose what you want with them)

[lethal lagoon]

I should have unsloted quietutde and left it as 3 free points, but whatever

[willow hazel]

Someone asked for my surge loadout.

[latent hill]

That would be me

The shield psyker from your previous mission.

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty Orthodox

[latent hill]

Thank you 🙂

[willow hazel]

generic and reliable

[long wharf]

you skipped Empathic Evasion

[midnight jolt]

I have the same as Atlas suggested, put the 2 extra on extra warp charge and empathic evassion

[long wharf]

I'd rather grab Empathic Evasion over Kinetic Deflection

[lethal lagoon]

I find emphatic evasion mid on Surge

[long wharf]

why? surge crits more than other staves

[lethal lagoon]

But it's usable

[long wharf]

it's nearly reliable

[lethal lagoon]

Emphatic evasion needs a rapid fire gun in my opinion

[willow hazel]

Yeah just made it through a range only mission with 59 damage taken, EE couldn't have done much

[midnight jolt]

can go for extra 5% movement speed, I would not mind

I hate to be much slower

[long wharf]

you might have dodged those 59 points!

[midnight jolt]

filthy peasants leaving me behind 😂

[lethal lagoon]

You have mettle, so you should be fine

[long wharf]

but hiding behind teammates and shooting through them is a time-honored psyker tactic

[midnight jolt]

but getting caugh by the horde they left behind is not fun

[lethal lagoon]

That's what creeping flame is for

Just yell at them to go away

[wind spruce]

Whats your blaze (or non blaze, idm) trauma build @lethal lagoon

[lethal lagoon]

Do you want mine out curiosity, or do you want what's probably the best blazing trauma build?

[wind spruce]

Yours

out of curiosity

[lethal lagoon]

With a standard MK 4 and standard Blaze Trauma

[grand scroll]

Trying to kill all Dregs with Ranged.

Currently using Assail.

[lethal lagoon]

Sometimes I take off KD for soulstealer, I jut really like BM on blaze trauma even if it's probably not that great

[rich jolt]

Thats good

[grand scroll]

Which guns or staff to pair it for Dreg killing?

[rich jolt]

Purg staff

[wind spruce]

I was about to ask, you don't find the peril reduction gets in the way of creeping flames?

[grand scroll]

Ok

[rich jolt]

Just make sure you take something for single target

[lethal lagoon]

Not really, I'm peril edging after all

There are a few moments where it's like "Gimme peril plz"

But they are rare enough that it doesn't make sense to account for them

I definitely don't use peril reduc on Purg and Void though.

It also tends to be more of an ego "I want top damage" moment rather than I reallllly need to flaming shriek moment.

[wind spruce]

Lmao, very true, especially I neeeed one or two more warpfire stacks

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of BM, it's for a similar reason.

Seeing my peril dropping gives me a dopamine high from all the shit that's dying to cause that

[zinc phoenix]

No dodge range on crit? Absolutely haram

[shadow wigeon]

Yes well as you know you don't require CF for Blaze Trauma to be effective, which is why running bubble is an option. Running bubble on Surge is possible, but messy, which was the point.

[zinc phoenix]

Bubble with surge smite is beyond heresy

[lethal lagoon]

But that's supporting my side of the dicussion we were having

[zinc phoenix]

It’s so heretical I got first degree heresy just seeing it suggested

[lethal lagoon]

Which I'm cool with, but it made me misread what you said

[lethal lagoon]

I have no idea what you are saying

That is not a thing

Do you mean emphatic evasion? That's dodge all ranged damage for 1 second on crit.

[zinc phoenix]

You should read the tree then 🤷‍♀️

[shadow wigeon]

No, it's not related.

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, "dodge range" not "dodge range"

English is wild

There is Anticpation right next to it, so I thought you were getting them mixed up

[zinc phoenix]

Anticipation is pretty poo

[lethal lagoon]

It is

Hence my confusion

[ornate hamlet]

God, they need a revamp for the psyker talents, every psyer I see on damnation difficulty, which is all I play, all they can do is just spam left click with biolightning and they are just absolutely useless teammates

[tribal shale]

What perks do I want on this, Flak and Crit chance?

[zinc phoenix]

That’s not a talent issue, that’s a player issue

[ornate hamlet]

I main Psyker, and get CC, and more damage from other stats

[zinc phoenix]

Pysker has better builds than just hold zap

[ornate hamlet]

and talents

[lethal lagoon]

Flak for sure, and then crit chance, maniac, or if you are wild like me unyielding

[ornate hamlet]

yeah, oh yeah, I use Assail, finally we have a "grenade" and carry a shock staff for CC and damage

and sword with deflector on em, so you can save teammates from gunners and reapers

[lethal lagoon]

Also EP smite will do more damage than 99% of pubs on Auric t5s/Maels.
So it's 100% a psyker problem.

Smite was honestly a mistake, it's lowers the skill level of psykers by two whole tiers.

[zinc phoenix]

Flak and maniac you already have assloads of crit from nexus and the bases chance

[long wharf]

why don't you take the "10% warp charge chance on soulblazing enemy death" node?

[stone totem]

Both of the new blitzes were mistakes, return to headpop

[long wharf]

but I love assail

[ornate hamlet]

yeah it does good CC, if you wanna call it that, still pretty useless against half the mobs on Damnation, but absolutely NO damage

[lethal lagoon]

I've tried both, 4% seems better. As was said earlier, this is not an optimal build just what I run.

[ornate hamlet]

so really, all a psyker using lightning does, is just put off whats coming anyway, most of em dont even stay with their team, so they're just postponing the inevitable with the lightning lol

Shock Staff is the superior lightning!

[stone totem]

But sometimes one or two out of a 100-strong horde will pop into mist, it's worth trust bro trust

[pallid galleon]

lightning as a staff, excellent for stuns on crushers, etc then single target takedowns also mint for pushback of the pox pox, overall not the huge dmg but combined with mb from range n stun/reasonable dmg upclose it is a great time addition imo

[lethal lagoon]

Here is a smite only meme run. Smite isn't bad, Bad Psykers use smite a lot.

I literally used smite on single target poxies.

It was awful

[ornate hamlet]

Scold every psyker you see with biolightning, and wave a staff in their face

[stone totem]

Honestly lightning staff is my favorite, purgatus surprising me as a close second

[pallid galleon]

smite skewed since dmg buff to others from it makin ya look back, biolightning a crutch for the inept, unless well coordinated private

[stone totem]

Lightning staff* good for both single target and even decent against horde

[tulip kettle]

surge staff always feel bad to me

[long wharf]

oof, no, not decent against the horde

[tulip kettle]

i dont understand how to make it good

[zinc phoenix]

I have a solid head pop build

[long wharf]

you're Doing It Wrong(tm) surging into a crowd

[pallid galleon]

crit is how ya make it good, past that all bout that end drop

[zinc phoenix]

You only use it to pop specials and gunners, otherwise you’re a melee

[tulip kettle]

like what is its use case that void or trauma wouldnt do better

[zinc phoenix]

Generating asstons of peril for shriek and fire from the perk that gives fire from killing particular baddies

[pallid galleon]

use just team stun on elites up closer while still droppin reasonable dmg, also the pushback on pox is mint without gettin risk

[stone totem]

Seems to me that it works just fine doing that in HI-STG 5s

It's not an insane option but it works with management

Def not as good as purgatus for crowds

[tulip kettle]

okay but like surely 1 cast taking you from 70 to 100 peril is just too much right?

[zinc phoenix]

He’s right, it’s really not good against horde. You want illsi out

[upper sun]

smite is only as good as your team is

[pallid galleon]

truth purg for crowd prob best, but the 10% random blast n end drop on elite is pretty mint

[zinc phoenix]

Purg is awful

Trauma is blessed

[upper sun]

head thing is bad because im bad with it

[zinc phoenix]

It smites the green glowy baddies that give no fucks

[spice veldt]

Purg is fine

[upper sun]

i run sharp pointy thing because i cant aim

[spice veldt]

its terribleness is overstated

[zinc phoenix]

Understated*

[tulip kettle]

everyone hates purgatus from playing with a tgeammate using it

[pallid galleon]

I prefer trauma, just need crit on staff n prefer crit on build but not always cd nice sometimes if shieldin, but I like the mb long lightnin close n choppin aint bad depending what you choose for sword

[tulip kettle]

its fine when youre the guy shooting the fire

[zinc phoenix]

It’s also plain old not very good

[tulip kettle]

its not fine when you cant see shit AND its not your fire

makes you hate it

[zinc phoenix]

Bad goo

[tulip kettle]

thats my theory on why so much purg hate

[pallid galleon]

eddy murphy daaakness maps its minty tho hah some ppl just not used to defining which fire is good n bad, to others its awesome

[upper sun]

i have ptsd from fire from before the patch

even if its my fire i hate it

[pallid galleon]

i got it after the patch from pox being mr deeds do not underestimate the sneakyness now

[stone totem]

Works for me so I figure it's decent, agree to disagree

[pallid galleon]

Just prob stating on 5 lightning slowest to clear horde since 1 full charge doesn't kill all, or even more than a couple its end drop n doesn't targetr closest so gotta point n drop n charge n drop to keep distance

[spice veldt]

it's a simple infinite cleave weapon

I wouldn't run it in a premade but it's good for pubs which can lack dps

[shadow wigeon]

Purg is totally fine, the game just turned against it in Patch 13. It just lost some usefulness, but it still has plenty of power.

[spice veldt]

my comfort weapon for <1 braincell activity

[lethal lagoon]

Surge EP smite is my comfort weapon

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Takes literally 0 skill

[upper sun]

assail is my favorite zero iq activity

[lethal lagoon]

Optimal assail gameplay is fairly high IQ atm, no?

[upper sun]

hold button see glow shoot

[willow hazel]

Maybe if you are canceling the right clicks

[lethal lagoon]

Gotta do constant swaps and stay in melee to optimize DPS

[potent echo]

Assail with malefic momentum huge brain

[shadow wigeon]

@restive slate https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9aec13a1-8d04-4fde-a2ff-2c73786ac358/surgeflames-sprint

There are some specific details baked in there. Swap the Illisi for whatever you like, of course.

Press F as often as possible. Use bolt as much as chage attack.

[restive slate]

Ive seen arguments that soulblaze talents should be avoided

[shadow wigeon]

Nah, it's super fun. That's why Slaughter is there, for pumping SB.

[lethal lagoon]

That's pretty a pretty unorthodox build there, I like it

[restive slate]

Psybolts are crazy good now, rather use them than BrainBurst

[shadow wigeon]

BB is there for bosses, and sometimes out of position crushers

And walk-off KOs when you are bored and want to look cool

[shadow wigeon]

Took a few hundred games to get to this build

Of testing every combination possible

[restive slate]

True, most of my time in Darktide is just testing out builds

[shadow wigeon]

The only change I'll make it Tranquility on melee-only mael, and Deflector isntead fo Slaughter if you need to carry some newbies just in case.

[restive slate]

Should Deflector be built in to Force Swords?

[lethal lagoon]

Ob with built-in Deflector would make the sword relevant again

[restive slate]

I just find the block effects of force sword really annoying yo look at

[shadow wigeon]

The most controversial but "I can't bear going back" is Essence Harvest. My buddy pushed me to try it, I was skeptical. It's so good on Surge it turns out, and barely use Tranquiliy anyway.

[lethal lagoon]

Also, fatshark inteded for force swords to have built in deflector, because they forgot to comment out their copy-pasted code when they released Illy and Demios

Illy with built-in deflector on release... man I only ran melee only builds

It was so fucking good

[restive slate]

Its my strong opinion that psyker should have more psychically involved weapons

[potent echo]

Essence harvest is Aite, better than warp res

[tulip kettle]

is it ever worth running soul blaze for any build on any of the force swords?

[potent echo]

Esp if you want to dump creeping constantly

[spice veldt]

I wish the fs push attacks were offensive

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing Spirit is complete dookie on force swords

[restive slate]

Like how laspistol has that force push special, I want more of those

[shadow wigeon]

I wouldn't run it on other builds, but it's so good on Surge.

[potent echo]

They are indeed offensive towards ragers

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah I tracked my warp charges for a game, and you spend so little time with WC's up anyway, Tranquility was doing almost nothing. Harvest is great for face tanking ranged elites, and just utlility all over the place.

[potent echo]

The only time I take warp res is with trauma

[restive slate]

FS push attacks are offensive to me for not pushing an enemy even though I inputted it 3 times in a game

[potent echo]

Just to spam more trauma

But maybe I should spam creeping more 🤷

[tulip kettle]

or getting me stuck in some weird animation where im not blocking or pushing but cant attack

[potent echo]

The lack of a cancel just makes it a little jank

[shadow wigeon]

I think Tranq is still better on Trauma, because CF isn't as big a swing on it, but it's probably close.

[restive slate]

I find that the best use of push attack is easy stacks of Uncanny Strike

[potent echo]

But if you use it's buffed push range you should be fine

I use it when soloing 3 or more ragers

Just push 1 or 2 of them down then handle the rest

[restive slate]

When will they raise the vertical aoe of Trauma so we can get headshots?

Makes the headshot blessings worth it

[potent echo]

Might as well make purgatus headshot too

Or surge

[restive slate]

I don't think purg or surge has headshot related blessings

[lethal lagoon]

Surge when it procced true aim

[white wolf]

psyker shop btw

[shadow wigeon]

They're trying to give you a hint

[lethal lagoon]

Gunker is the most fun gun class after all

[restive slate]

That you need Ordo Dockets

[shadow wigeon]

also that 😮

[potent echo]

It would make my DD purgatus dream real

[zinc phoenix]

IKR point and laugh at the poor 😂

[lethal lagoon]

No, then their poor smell might get on my finger 🤢

[restive slate]

I would not, as the scars of being plasteel-less shall forever humble me

[upper sun]

maaan when are they gonna make the crafting a bit less rng+grind

just let me change three things on a weapon or two blessings at the same time thats all i ask

[midnight jolt]

Opinions:

[upper sun]

pretty good but i cant see myself now using anything other than the force sword

[lethal lagoon]

Riposte to Uncanny, 6% pox damage to Maniac

Can also keep riposte if you never plan to use the sword on anything other than mutants

But shred is 4

[upper sun]

my baby here does mutants in one charged hit

[midnight jolt]

😛

[upper sun]

ohhhhh damn sexy

[midnight jolt]

is not great, but I have no money 😂

nor many blessings, I started 3~4 days ago

[upper sun]

bruh what

ohhhhh wait theyre not the same model

[tulip kettle]

for a horde clear general purpose illisi its fine

[midnight jolt]

I totally didn't get this today 😉

[tulip kettle]

that will not one shot mutants

oh thats nice dude

do me a favour quick

[upper sun]

it absolutely one shots mutants

[tulip kettle]

the illisi wont

the deimos will

the DS will

on that purgatus on the burn stat

what is the max damage over time stacks

[restive slate]

Duelling Sword 4 is just too sexy with its damage

I hope the other Duelling Swords can catch up in some way

[tulip kettle]

i prefer deimos but i know there are a lot of muggle fencing enjoyers here

[restive slate]

I'm a psyker muggle with an smg, wanna say that again?

[tulip kettle]

on that purgatus on the burn stat
what is the max damage over time stacks

that technowitch did this and im sad

[midnight jolt]

best I can do for now, until I get uncanny strike 3~4:

[lethal lagoon]

Why flak?

[midnight jolt]

what would be better?

[lethal lagoon]

For mk4, maniac

Carpace is good too, but maniac is better

[midnight jolt]

still learning so I don't have an answer 😉

[tulip kettle]

thats a deimos

[upper sun]

a what

[tulip kettle]

and you can just throw light 1 then stab it with H2

a deimos force sword

not an illisi force sword

[upper sun]

i said its not the same as his

[tulip kettle]

right

well anyway

if its rolled properly

just throw your L1 attack

it doesnt matter if it hits

[upper sun]

theyre both force sowrds

[tulip kettle]

the chained heavy after it will one shot the mutant

oon that deimos in that clip there

[upper sun]

too many buttons for my brain ok?

[tulip kettle]

but charging is more buttons

and locks you in to an animation

[zinc phoenix]

It’s fine, you don’t actually need to worry about combos even on the tippy top diff lmao

A lot of people literally just spam lights and deal with the rest using blocks and dodges

[ember orbit]

Should I get Disrupt Destiny or Empowered Psionics?

[shadow wigeon]

https://tenor.com/view/i-mean-it-kind-of-depends-candice-hutchings-edgy-veg-it-varies-gif-25246532

[shadow wigeon]

Gonna need a bit more context to help you

[ember orbit]

I’ll be honest idk what builds are in this game I’m still new asf

Just going through the skill tree

[shadow wigeon]

I would avoid Disrupt Destiny for now then, unless you want to play gun psyker.

Empowered Psionics is generally good with all the Blitzes.
Many staff builds work well with Warp Siphon, one way or another.

You can't go too wrong just trying out weapons to find out what you like.

[ornate hamlet]

Disrupt destiny is a pain in the ass, but empowered psionics is pretty nice if you're not spamming your blitzes and spending the charges on trivial stuff

EP brain burst can chain one-hits on certain enemies, for example

[idle plover]

I found disrupt destiny with scrier and brain rup pretty nice

[ornate hamlet]

But if you were to use it anywhere for anything, it'd feel bad quickly

[random jetty]

can the purgatus staff crit?

[shadow wigeon]

Yep, when it crits it applies an extra stack of soul blaze.

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah, and it applies two stacks

[random jetty]

is the burning affact of the staff soulblaze?

like, the normal burning?

[ornate hamlet]

yeah, the funny blue fire

[random jetty]

i didnt know that and i have been playing this game since launch

so... can i combo with the soulblaze effects of the talent tree? Do they stack?

[spice veldt]

ye, they will all contribute to the same stack of soulblaze

the important rule to remember is that each method of Soulblaze application can apply up to a certain amount of stacks

[ember orbit]

I’m not sure if I want to play gun Psyker cause I haven’t tried the staves yet, I’m only level 17

[spice veldt]

so, suppose you have a >76% burn stat purgatus, which can apply up to 15 soulblaze stacks

let's say that you shriek and put 6 stacks onto some enemies, and then you spray your Purg for some time
at most, the enemies can only have 15 stacks

[shadow wigeon]

Just keep playing. Try different weapons out, dont worry too much abou your build. See what you enjoy the most.
When you hit 30, you'll have options

[random jetty]

does this apply to the purgatus staff normal kills?

[spice veldt]

but if you spray with Purg first and apply 15 stacks, and then you shriek, the enemies can attain 21 stacks

since venting shriek can apply up to 31 stacks

[shadow wigeon]

"Spray with purg" im uncomfortable somehow

[midnight jolt]

bug life? 😂

[random jetty]

does anyone know?

[vestal stirrup]

Does anybody else occasionally have what I like to call “Lore accurate Psyker games?” When you’re up you’re a damn beast crowd controlling and annihilating waves of gunners and hoards of poxwalkers

And then you wind up spending a third of the game dead thanks to unlucky barrel/getting thrown, misjudging the timing to dodge a sniper, or getting obliterated by a crushed and twenty flamers that spawned behind you

[quiet wolf]

Oh yeah, all the time. I run the right side of the psyker tree and combined with my dumbass wanting to use staffs, I have these moments all the time. Tldr; enjoy the stupid setbacks. They're not permanent you know.

[peak grotto]

I'm building a Flame Trauma staff. What should I replace Elites with?

[tulip kettle]

flak is normal

then transfer to flurry

[lethal lagoon]

Transfer to blazing, "flame trauma"

[tulip kettle]

oh sdorry

its so late i thought it was purgatus

its still flak tho

[wind spruce]

lore accurate would be more like dying from perils of the warp, or having your teammate purposefully blow you up with a barrel

[peak grotto]

Thanks

[potent echo]

It applies to kills of any soulblazing enemies, so yea

[night hound]

Worth? Picking up at milk

Wohat would be a good perk over shred or is shred good?

[lethal lagoon]

If you don't have one it's okay

I'd do ripost -> uncanny, Infested -> maniac

Can also swap shred for uncanny if you like ripost better.

But any weapon that has uncanny as an option, it's typically the best choice.

The low pen and lowish damage is pretty meh though

If you really wanna use mk4, I'd roll your own and save the melks

[ember orbit]

What staves are good and what do they do? I’ve never used one and I want to try it out

[lethal lagoon]

All 4 staves are good and function well in Auric Maels.

Purg is the worst of the bunch but still decent.

Voidstrike, Surge, and Trauma have their advantages and disadvantages, but Surge is weaker than Trauma and Void.

Both Voidstrike and Surge are really easy to roll a usable staff, they are also really easy to use, so that's a good starting point.

[short lily]

Why's surge worse again

[vocal cliff]

Adding to this is One thing to note with voidstrike is that it REALLY activates once you get your hands on the surge blessing, basically turning it into a delete button so long as you have a constant flow of Crits depending on your build, but even without it'll still do it's job, just not as much as with the blessing

[analog agate]

It’s dps ain’t great for a “single target dps” staff. At least on certain enemy types.

[lethal lagoon]

It's a fun and easy staff to use but it's just not going to compare to well-rolled Void or Blaze trauma.

No real cleave either so while you are doing 1k to a single rager, a void or a trauma is doing 5k+ to multiple enemies plus that rager

Very low skill ceiling too

The only difference in DPS between you and another surge user is basic skills(like dodging dogs/trappers) and how hard you try.

There is a bit of minor skill in picking out elites and specials in a giant mixed horde, but it's not super hard.

[shadow wigeon]

Surge is not single target dps, it's multi target with CC, that is more mobile. Surge should be used balanced between removing things directly, and CC'ing to make a kill easy for your team, make room, or slow targets down. Crit bonus makes the bolt shot stronger than the other staffs as well, which should be used a lot.

And it's strongest at special removal because of how fast and easy the targeting is, along with the CC.

[potent echo]

I agree it's amazing at removing specials, but I wouldn't call it multi target

It's passable at killing elites if you choose illisi, but dont choose illisi, be stronger

[analog agate]

Yeah, a pittance of dmg on the second guy with a stun doesn’t make it multitarget

[potent echo]

A Deimos will dispatch 4 maulers much better than a surge will

[peak grotto]

If I'm trying to farm for Blazing Spirit should I be making blues or golds?

It's a T3 blessing

[tawny jetty]

Make blues. That's what I did and got it today.

[potent echo]

Blues is more taxing on dockets, but yea

[peak grotto]

I got dockets, ain't got no plasteel

[potent echo]

Then blues

[peak grotto]

Blues it is

I gotta say, it is very fun seeing someone from across the Archivum for half a second and casting Cluster Migraine on them

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know if hitting a 2nd target with a little zing of damage is "multi target with CC".

Brah, you marketing major lmao?

[potent echo]

It fires fast, so you can handle 3 ragers at max range just spamming surge rmb

But anything more it won't be enough

[lethal lagoon]

The question isn't "is it bad" it's what "is it like compared to Void and Trauma" for me.

[potent echo]

Void has crazy CC lmao

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I love Surge, but you gotta be realistic.

[potent echo]

If you hit a rager in the head, if it isn't dead, it will be knocked down for 6 seconds

Smite users eat your hearts out

[shadow wigeon]

Surge does great on all auric maels. Whatever your defintion of "realistic" is, comfortable top tier damage, max elite/special removal, and beating auric is realistic.

[potent echo]

Beating auric is a really low bar

[lethal lagoon]

Surge with a decent player does great on all auric maels because end game content isn't hard

[shadow wigeon]

After 3200 hours in the game I have seen all the builds on all the difficulties.

[potent echo]

3200 hours? For real?

And that's your take on surge?

[shadow wigeon]

Yes, it's my main on psyker, has been for a long time.

I play all the staffs, but Surge is easy #1

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is easy, yeah.

Brain Off, Lightning On

[potent echo]

Don't you feel that it struggles vs any sort of density

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

Surge is the only staff that NEEDs a blitz for backup

All the other staves can function without a blitz

[potent echo]

You also need creeping flames

Shield surge uhhh

[lethal lagoon]

Like if I had to recommend a build for any new psyker, It'd be Smite Surge for multiple reasons. But they'll grow out of it with time and skill level

[shadow wigeon]

I would never use Smite with Surge

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[potent echo]

Smite surge shield is the ultimate npc psyker build

[lethal lagoon]

Which is why you use creeping flames

[potent echo]

I think fatshark should code that AI for the bots

It's probably easier to code that than the vet bot AI

Spam shield spam smite, done

[shadow wigeon]

Different staffs do better with different ults, yes, that's the game. Surge is certainly the best for CF, so that's a good combo.

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like Shield smite is one of those builds that makes you feel like you are doing a lot when in reality you are doing nothing.

Surge isn't the best for CF, it's just needs CF the most

[shadow wigeon]

No

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[potent echo]

No?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge without CF is just.... bleh

[near wyvern]

I would never use surge without smite

We are not the same

[potent echo]

So you rather take shield surge or gaze surge?

[stone canyon]

Any axe psykers out there? Melk offering this

[opaque charm]

You want Reshaad BM and Headtaker

[near wyvern]

If you like combat or tactical axes there are simply better alternatives on the Psyker specific weapon pool, mainly Duelling Swords and especially Mk 4 duelling sword.

Also Achyls is like the worst of the 3 combat axes at least for a psyker.

Yeah Rashad is the only one to consider if you really want to go for it

But still, DS4 just dispatches everything faster and the special on it is faster and staggers more things that the combat axe can

[potent echo]

Is antax bad?

[scarlet bear]

i like dueling sword but is it worth not having a warp attack on the sword...

[near wyvern]

It's not bad but it's too slow without attack speed buffs

[lethal lagoon]

Embrace the normie mortal weapons, it get's easier each time 🥹

🥹

[near wyvern]

The damage output and mobility makes up for it

[potent echo]

It's uncanny though

Mobility over forcesword is why you would take Duelling

[scarlet bear]

i do like the range blocking on force sword though

saves my hide more than once

XD

[lethal lagoon]

Don't save your hide, poke the enemy's hide instead

[near wyvern]

Even if you use a force sword that's something that you will (or should) grow out of

Deflector is a band aid for bad positioning

[shadow wigeon]

If you like Smite, by all means use it. But if you are running CF, then you have ~9-12 seconds cooldown between CF bursts. Time in Smite is time pushing that back.

[near wyvern]

And not yet grasping the art of combining sprint sliding and dodges

[near wyvern]

I use surge staff to kill steal elites and specials in between to gather stacks 🤷

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

[lethal lagoon]

I'm more on the side of Lightning go brr, BB is lame, and Assail skips Elite kill CDR Aura.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah if you enjoy that move, go for it. I prefer to be mobile and sprinting. Is Aura worth using with that? I would think not..

[lethal lagoon]

Aura is what let him spam creeping flames.... so yeah.

[near wyvern]

I do also enjoy being mobile which is why I main the Psylot build and not this

[lethal lagoon]

Surge Smite get's boring fast

[near wyvern]

But due to Atheneum I gotta play also other builds every now and then

[shadow wigeon]

For that exact loop yeah, but that's just once in awhile.

[near wyvern]

It truly is the easy mode. Perfect for game pads!

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah, that is a good argument for it

[lethal lagoon]

You can call it once in a while, you can also call it the most important part of a game 🤷‍♂️

[near wyvern]

You don't always get a perfect ult so CDR is nice when you get a bad one and ult too few

[lethal lagoon]

DPS during easy times isn't all that important, other than for ego padding

Of course high enough DPS can make everything an easy time, but that's a different subject

[near wyvern]

The 5% damage aura does nothing anyways (reduces time to kill by... 0.3 or 0.5 seconds?)

[lethal lagoon]

Also. I feel like it's time for t6 now that all the noobs have stopped queueing for aurics

[near wyvern]

The other dudes were fresh 30 lvl players dipping their feet into Auric Damnation. I think they got a too sweet picture of it

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, that zealot beat you in plasteel though

🙂

[near wyvern]

"oh wow"

[lethal lagoon]

🙂

[near wyvern]

Wonder why he had time to pick up that Plasteel before me

[lethal lagoon]

No idea, probably just better at the game

[near wyvern]

Must be

True chad

[idle bay]

Did anyone found out what plasteel cap is ?

[near wyvern]

In inventory?

[idle bay]

Yes in inventory

[near wyvern]

No idea but one might find that online. It's at least larger than 20k

[shadow wigeon]

It's higher than 300K if there is one

[lethal lagoon]

I saw 400k.

It might just be the same as gold

[analog agate]

What is gold? 20 mil?

[lethal lagoon]

For some reason I am remembering 2.5m but that doesn't seem right

yeah thats way too low.

[shadow wigeon]

No, I've had more than that. I don't know that I've ever seen someone hit a cap on it...

There are a lot of folks with 50+ right now at least, so presumbly someone still has 100's

[analog agate]

I was just assuming 5 mil per guy. Maybe it is 10 mil, so 40

Ah

[shadow wigeon]

I assume someone would post about it on Reddit fi they hit the cap

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/173vd9t/maximum_amount_of_ordo_dockets_achieved/

[analog agate]

They did. 25 mil

[shadow wigeon]

Someoen capped at 25

[analog agate]

Ya

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I was kinda of close

just wrong decimal point

So that's why I remembered 2.5

[shadow wigeon]

I guess people have just been spending it before they hit it then. Lots of folks who had 20+ when the patch dropped.

[lethal lagoon]

I guess at that point you just try to stock up on 380s of every weapon type everytime your gold hits max

[shadow wigeon]

That costs 100's of million, if you want perfect weapons of every type. 25 mil doesn't buy much.

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah 380 was a bit ambitous. I actually don't remember the last time I got one

[shadow wigeon]

Even 375+ with perfect blessing/perks. I've put 10 mil into just rolling revolvers before. It goes fast.

if you want to sprint anyway

[lethal lagoon]

Though tbf, my Buy Until Rating is only set to 365.

Most weapons have dump anyways, except Surge actually

[shadow wigeon]

The cheapest weapon to roll though

I think I dumped 5 mil this week just on Illisi's for low warp res

The wise move is to just buy all the high stat greys, forever

[lethal lagoon]

I never have that much gold saved up, I swap chars and builds too much

[shadow wigeon]

Any weapon doesn't matter

[lethal lagoon]

Probably, but I'm over store app watching.

Got my curios, so good enough

[shadow wigeon]

I just ran out of stuff to buy a long time ago

[lethal lagoon]

It is true though, who would have guessed Columbus mk5 would be the meta gun

Makes sense, I mostly play in bursts where I start with friends, they quit, I pub till I get bored.

[shadow wigeon]

that, and you dont know what T4's you might suddenly be farming.

I also ran +ordo's for months until I basically had all max roll gear.

[lethal lagoon]

That they are probably going to make crafting easier, and have already, makes me less willing to grind like that

Like back when perfect Curios were actually hard to get

Now you can rerroll two parts, all my effort feels wasted

[shadow wigeon]

Eh not grinding, if you're playing the game it's just free money anyway. Not many builds that are going to live or die off one curio perk. An time is time....

[lethal lagoon]

But when one last curio perk is all you need

Also depends on class.

[dapper shadow]

I may have blown myself up three times

But the damage isnt bad all things considered

with a scuffed staff

Trauma definitely does work better the harder the difficulty is

since enemies are so dense

you get to hit way more stuff

[trim valve]

Let's imagine I have a "kill X number of targets in melee", and I don' t want to just trust my teammates to do it for me. What would be the ideal weapon to speed up the task?

[dapper shadow]

any hoard clearing weapon?

The illisi Mk V blaze force or idk or catachan IV

[trim valve]

Is the Obscurus any good for horde clear?

Forgive spelling

[ornate hamlet]

It's aggressively okay

Like, you can still kinda use it

[shadow wigeon]

Not especially, but it's not miserable at it.
Blessings make a big difference

[ornate hamlet]

But you can also use the deimos

Which has a similar combo and is a better weapon

[shadow wigeon]

Illisi is the "horde clear" force sword, Deimos is the "single target" force sword (although it's not bad at horde clear either). Obscurus is the in-betweener (and the original force sword) and is kind of just worse than either sword, for now. May get buffed in the future.

[spiral minnow]

what are all the sources of soulblaze? apart from talents, does surge staff adds stack every light attack?

[lethal lagoon]

Meh, the staff is plenty good, what's your build looking like?

[ornate hamlet]

Soulblaze comes from the purgatus staff, perilous combustion, wildfire, fire shriek, blazing spirit blessing for force swords and certain staves and the friends we made along the way

[gloomy magnet]

||when private server||

[trim valve]

I was afraid of that

[spiral minnow]

ty, can purgatus have blazing spirit? i liked using purgatus for last few levels when trying 4th difficulty, but it was just support weapon for stagger and i would want to up the damage of it

[neat dome]

👀

[ornate hamlet]

Nope, it doesn't have blazing spirit

People build it for crits so it applies an extra soublaze stack in that condition tho

It's technically blazing spirit but a bit nerfed and innate to the weapon

[spiral minnow]

so it is already purgatus staff mechanic? crit meaning doublestack?

[rocky raven]

crits apply 2 stacks on purg; but you need burn over 76 / maxed cloud stat

[plush oak]

I think they should make obscurus charge attack lightning damage and play into that surge/smite direction

[spiral minnow]

good to know, ty .)

[plush oak]

To give it its own identity, honestly i never see anyone use it

[dapper shadow]

@lethal lagoon

[plush oak]

Purg is insanely strong if built correctly. Crits + unlimited cleave = big damage

Also m1 staggers almost everything

[dapper shadow]

purg has the easiest gameplay

and it does so well too

[plush oak]

True. Lowest skill floor of all the staffs

But u can also get cracked with it

[dapper shadow]

you can snipe something faster than allies can whip out their pistol to headshot them

[plush oak]

At which point will become insane

[dapper shadow]

and you can get elites/specials through an entire hoard

[plush oak]

Tho your teammates will hate you for using it cuz they wont be able to see shit

[ornate hamlet]

I think that's revolver

[dapper shadow]

Its just a very comfy and elite/special killer staff

yeah revolver

[plush oak]

Nice blaze trauma build 😂

Exactly the one im using too

[dapper shadow]

that and stunning anything in the game besides monstrosities removes a lot of pressure for your team when shotgunners/gunners cant even fire

or if they are, stops them from firing

[lethal lagoon]

Wildfire -> soulstealer

[dapper shadow]

aite

[near wyvern]

I'd just drop battery for soulstealer

[dapper shadow]

actually can I drop battery and wildfire for soulstealer and kinetic resonance

to kill bosses faster

since the staff doesnt do that much against bosses and I kinda don't want to get into melee range most of the time

[near wyvern]

Battery ain't really worth it for creeping flames spam cause the CD comes back faster than what you have time go get the stacks

[lethal lagoon]

kinetic resonance is kinda dookie cause you don't really wanna be wasting your flaming shriek for no reason

[trim valve]

I kinda wish zealot flamethrower was as useful as Psyker purgatus.

Or at least if it would not blind you as much.

[dapper shadow]

does battle meditation work on DoT deaths

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers peppers

[near wyvern]

Wildfire is very solid for blaze trauma, soulblaze has exponential damage scaling for the first 10 stacks so the difference between 3 stacks and 3 + some initial stacks already there is huge

[dapper shadow]

maybe I'll get that instead

[lethal lagoon]

When your peril goes from 96 to 36 in a second or two cause of BM

Dopamine rush

[dapper shadow]

hrm

okay I can remove kinetic deflection for battle meditation

:^)

I dont usually use kinetic deflection anyways

that much

[near wyvern]

No don't use battle meditation for blaze trauma

[lethal lagoon]

In fairness, it can goof up your creeping flames

[near wyvern]

That's asking for the game to nerf you

[lethal lagoon]

But it feeel sooo goood

[spiral minnow]

yeah, had amazing games where no special even land attack on me, and then game, when i felt completely useless xD

[dapper shadow]

I'm always keeping peril above 50-60 but I also have to quell after every 1-2 attacks

[near wyvern]

Crit rate takes a nose dive

And with that so does your damage output

[dapper shadow]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

That's a different take. I don't think I've ever had BM fuck up my peril edging

[dapper shadow]

whats the crit/peril cap anyways

[rocky raven]

quell speed variance from 60-80% is why on your roll prob

[near wyvern]

With blaze trauma your damage output is directly proportional to your skill for finishing cast at 80+ peril as often as you can

[plush oak]

Had an auric damnation game yesterday with a fellow psyker that was running purg and i struggled to get 2nd place dmg/kills with blaze trauma

[dapper shadow]

purg is god

[near wyvern]

You do quell cancels anyway and a couple quell ticks is enough to keep you going 80+ finish and 60-70 start

[dapper shadow]

is quell cancel only for wanting to cast faster

[plush oak]

My 49% warp resist roll on it makes sure i edge hard on blaze trauma 💀

[dapper shadow]

Or do you exit the after secondary anim to do some quell ticks

then continue casting

[near wyvern]

Well duh, the one applying the first stack gets all the damage credit for it (also buffs are calculated based on the player who applied the first stack)

[plush oak]

It goes like this: start at 70% peril full cast boom -> few quell ticks and repeat

[near wyvern]

Yes but why would you not like to cast faster

[dapper shadow]

I mean do you also quell cancel to quell faster

I use it if I want to spam casts but I can't spam casts when I need to quell every 1-2 casts

[rocky raven]

lol

[near wyvern]

You can quell cancel to skip after cast animation but with blaze trauma you want to quell a few ticks always so you just quell cancel to get into quelling faster which is very natural and you don't even need to think about it, just hold quell immediately after cast

[dapper shadow]

makes sense

[plush oak]

On blaze trauma u should always look to be as close as possible to max peril if ur running warp nexus (as you should)

[near wyvern]

Normally if you quell cancel you release quell button before the actual quelling starts

[dapper shadow]

yeah thats what I do when I spam casts to get peril up above 70

then I guess I can just hold R instead of tap to quell some ticks

[near wyvern]

It's all about learning the rhythm

[dapper shadow]

man

and purge is haha my finger is taped to right click

[plucky flax]

I don't use soulstealer on my purga build.

[plush oak]

Or what i do is blast away till 100% peril then switch to my beloved illisi with slaughterer and unstable power to start cleaving through everything.
Let your peril naturally quell till about 80 then do another full cast of trauma -> repeat

[lethal lagoon]

I just spam BB on purg cause I miss the old days

[dapper shadow]

I'm doing okay without soulstealer tbh, I die more overheating than to enemies

🤡

[near wyvern]

Not really, purga LMB QC is pretty tricky but doubles the attack rate giving you almost the same damage output as RMB but costing more peril and causing more stagger, which at times is desirable

[plucky flax]

I struggle to generate peril with purga and mine only has 60 something warp resistance

[plush oak]

This is the average psyker in my games

[plucky flax]

It's me every game.

[plush oak]

Yeee buddy 💀

[near wyvern]

If you never blow up you ain't edging hard enough

[plush oak]

If ur gonna splooge u might aswell take some heretics with u

[lethal lagoon]

The moment they buff peril explosion, you have 3 wound curios ready

[plush oak]

I blew up yesterday right as a low hp mutant was about to grab me. I took the heretic with me

[near wyvern]

Peril explosion should equal to the ogryn nuke nade

[gaunt night]

haahha

[plush oak]

This ^

[gaunt night]

wouldve been rly funny

[plucky flax]

It would be fair and balance tbh.

[plush oak]

Wound psyker meta

[dapper shadow]

Can peril explosion crit

[near wyvern]

3 wound Psykers would become a thing

[gaunt night]

sacrifice 1 wound for psyker suicide nuke

[near wyvern]

You see a medi station, I see fuel

[dapper shadow]

one shot bosses psyker build

at the cost of 1 wound

[gaunt night]

xD

[plush oak]

Have your ogryn throw you into the crowd right as you re about to explode 💀😂

[dapper shadow]

I noticed that if you get grabbed by the boss as you're about to explode you dont until they throw you back on the ground or maybe thats just me pressing r/l click

[lethal lagoon]

You can explode mid-mutant grab

[near wyvern]

Interesting cause if you get grabbed by a mutant, leaped by a dog or netted by a netter during POW animation you immediately blow up

[plucky flax]

Mfw mutie grab me during explode animation before I could press f.

[lethal lagoon]

Mfw when the F animation clearly went off but the server was like nah and I died mid-mutant grab anyways

[dapper shadow]

this good enough? (I want to use scrier's gaze)

[plush oak]

Pretty nice roll

Isnt blast radius dump stat on voidstrike tho?

[dapper shadow]

I think so 🤔

[rocky raven]

not exactly, more like minimal variance on the statspread allows for some give on stat allocation

[cunning bone]

Warp resistance would be a better dump stat

You’ll live with 60 warp

[lethal lagoon]

Blast radius is absolutely the dumpy but warp res isn't exactly needed.

[plush oak]

Im living on 49 with my trauma

[cunning bone]

Giga chad move

[plush oak]

Yea i was gonna say if ur shooting the ground with the voidstrike then stop, get some help 💀

[spiral minnow]

anyway, purgatus build, any tips? and rolls on staff to actually deal dmg and not just stagger .) 76+ burn to get 2 stacks on crit, build crit, what next? ty .)

[plush oak]

Further than that just use the soulblaze talents + venting shriek and focus on improving your actual tech with the staff

[rocky raven]

&gitgud with melee

[spiral minnow]

also is there blessing list for weapons? wiki seems missing those...

[plush oak]

Illisi unstable power + slaughterer

[idle bay]

It's an Overkill 🙂

[rocky raven]

any of the 3 pair nicely with purg

[plush oak]

Ik. Thats the point

I want +80% power

[plush oak]

Warp nexus for sure, maybe warp flurry too

[spiral minnow]

using illsi and i think i am not bad with that, just not good with special attack still, timing .)

[plush oak]

Try to use heavy 1 + light 2 for horde clear

Or just spam m1 works great too

What blessings u have on it

[spiral minnow]

still blue xD jsut hit 30 yesterday and spending my worktime thinking about build xDDD waht a day

also have lege chainsword with 2 blessings for cleave, special attack is nice for bosses

[plush oak]

Understandable, i too am at work rn just waiting for the day to end. I have heretics to purge not excel sheets to do god damnit

[lethal lagoon]

Here is the best Purg build. Don't question it, just spam BB, trust me.
Trust me.

🙂

Trust me.

[spiral minnow]

luckily i use excel only some times, making building plans and 3d and visualisations, 1 program use wasd movement... so feels like game xDD

[plush oak]

That sounds fun actually. Way more fun than excel sheets thats for sure lmao

[spiral minnow]

trust must be earned, btu i still dont know whats good and whatnot, so... hard to judge xD

[lethal lagoon]

Oh it's 100% a meme build that's the

🙂

[spiral minnow]

ty for your honesty .) i used mostly left side for my leveling purgatus, BB for range snipe, warp stacks for bonus dmg and reduced peril, venting for saving my ass and damn penance... pushing 7 enemies down... cant do that, the push is so small and teammates kills everything good for it xD

[stone canyon]

Warp was kinda dump stat right?

[vestal fulcrum]

Right

That's a decent base for an Illisi

[stone canyon]

Yeah, i have no blessings to fix it though if Hadron "blesses" it in weird ways

[vestal fulcrum]

Illisi relies more on Warp resist than say, Deimos or Obscurus, as you actually want to use its special attacks, but I wouldn't worry about it terribly. One more special attack 0 -> 100% peril is not a dealbreaker

[stone canyon]

Hard to tell from those numbers how meaningful it is

Too poor to continue further now

Seems to be some "Flame Illisi" that does well with Shred

[dapper shadow]

barrage -> warp nexus or warp flurry 🤔

actually warp nexus since I have crit chance perk

[shadow wigeon]

Low warp res is desireable for Creeping Flames

[spiral minnow]

anyway so far i used this for purgatus while gettign to 30, how bad is it? .)

[shadow wigeon]

At least take 2 points out of, almost anywhere, and put them into Creeping Flames to load up your soulblaze stacks.
For a start, get rid of Warp Expenditure. It's doing very little for you.

[rocky raven]

^

purg is crit based, dump all that toughness overkill and add mettle + perfect timing, along with fix your vent shriek

[proven stirrup]

Since the fuck when...?

[shadow wigeon]

Void is flexible. You can do either. Nexus will mean more damage, Flurry will enable faster fully charged attacks, which lines up with Transfer Peril better - more frequent, fully charged attacks will hit more heads, etc.

[proven stirrup]

So how do I fix this staff?

Oh wait, nvm, I have the doc open

[dapper shadow]

makes sense.

[rocky raven]

you dont, too whack on rolls

salvage for blazing spirit and move on

[shadow wigeon]

Transfer Peril is just "good" in general. But it's also a matter of taste too. Void has several blessings that all steer it a bit in different directions.

[twin zephyr]

Change transfer peril to Warp Nexus, and you're good to go.

I'd also swap unarmored to Crit Chance.

[proven stirrup]

I will not be so picky while I have little else to use

I will tweak the perks and blessings and use it until I have a better base

[twin zephyr]

It's a solid Blaze Trauma staff, so you're good to go.

[proven stirrup]

Says the whiplash brigade

[shadow wigeon]

It's very good blaze trauma staff. Perks aren't ideal, but carapace isn't bad to have by any means.
If you're short on resources I wouldn't be in a rush to buy it. But you can also start playin blaze trauma right away, if that's your fancy.

[rocky raven]

not without nexus

[shadow wigeon]

Oh, yeah, woof.... I didn't even see Mettle and Perfect Timing were missing... just feels like an auto pick.

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah sorry, Nexus was implied per the previous comment.
I mean the base is a good blaze trauma. It needs to actually be made into that.

[proven stirrup]

Yeah I know it's not ideal, I just se it as usable so I can get used to the playstyle of the staff

While also getting to bank the blessing

This seems to be the friction so many players have that I dont

I'm willing to use stopgaps

[shadow wigeon]

It's almost ideal. There's not much more you can change on it.

[rocky raven]

blaze trauma is a hyper specific roll req for it to really start feeling good is the issue

[proven stirrup]

My standards aren't that high

I just want a change of pace from time to time, it doesn't have to carry me in auric shit

[twin zephyr]

Yeah, once you add Warp Nexus and Crit Chance, it'll be about as good as you can get.

The Carapace isn't perfect, but it's a reasonably good alternative.

[proven stirrup]

I play those missions like twice a week at most

[shadow wigeon]

What you have there is fine for max difficulty (after changes per @twin zephyr message)

[proven stirrup]

Thank you.

[spiral minnow]

what about blessing for purgatus, finally find good wiki which states what blessing it can have, for sure warp nexus but second?

[proven stirrup]

Flurry

[twin zephyr]

Nexus and Flurry are the meta pair.

[ionic needle]

It's the only pair on it

Every other blessing is shit for purgatus

[shadow wigeon]

The second blessing doesn't matter as much, but you don't have a lot of choices. Flurry is the easy pick, Focused Channeling can be interesting for some people that play very aggressively. Run n Gun has a tiny bit of value on meme builds.

[proven stirrup]

I've seen run and gun put to surprisingly good use but yes, it is still very meme.

[spiral minnow]

ok, ty .)

[shadow wigeon]

I used it on Scrier's, which is quite fun, but I can't recommend it as a serious build. It didn't make a huge difference but helped with closing distance duing Scrier's.

[visual estuary]

So, that ovenproof scoreboard mod is cool...maybe I'm missing something here, but...are there no instructions on now to install it on the nexusmods page?

Went through every section, not even a read.me

[spice veldt]

doesn't show up on your scoreboard after you downloaded it?

it should just add a bunch of rows to your scoreboard once you install it

and the only thing you'll have to do after the installation is turning on/off the rows you want

[plush oak]

Just use vortex mod manager

Then make sure to deploy and then to enable the mod in the load order

[shadow wigeon]

Have you installed mods before?

[quartz barn]

Its the same as any other mod, unpack it in the darktide/mods folder and add ovenproof in the mod_load_order text file under the base scoreboard mod

[visual estuary]

Yea I have the scoreboard mod installed

I have a few other mods installed.

[visual estuary]

Thank you this is what I was looking for.

Installing mods themselves is easy, but I didn't know if there was something else that needed to be done since there's a dependency involved.

[visual estuary]

So far no errors yet.

[proven stirrup]

Yeah there's no way I could have waited for a better base staff at all, I'm dogshit ith this

It's incredibly potent but the peril gen is way outside of my comfort zone

[visual estuary]

JCskills filled me in on where to extract the file, even that little blurb in the description would have been enough, but we are good.

[ionic needle]

Is there a mod that allows me to see the number of soulblaze stacks on an enemy?

[vestal fulcrum]

Likely this:

[https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137]

(Debuff indicator)

[potent echo]

That mod is the best thing

[ionic needle]

Thanks!

[cunning bone]

Here’s the thing, i was planning to do lacerate and mercy killer but i really really want damage to maniac. What should the first blessing be if i chose to keep uncanny strikes (im thinking executor)?

@plucky flax bitch id love your input if you’re still up

[lethal lagoon]

haymaker to bleed on crit, stamina to carpace

[cunning bone]

Flesh tearer and im think im rocking a solid 10% base crit chance while i use knife

[distant roost]

Haymaker to Precog/Executor/Flesh Tearer (If you really want a bleed knife...)
Stamina to Maniac/Elites/Crit Chance is acceptable

i always take extra damage over crit chance, the DPS difference is like

maybe 4% difference

[vestal fulcrum]

Flesh Tearer would be my pick

[distant roost]

Im always eh on bleed as Precog/Executor just yknow

Kills things.

No need to wait

plus precog reinforces good habits

such as dodging

[vestal fulcrum]

Right, but bleed gives you another source of damage against monsters

Which can be made irrelevant if there’s a bleed user in the lobby, but it’s not like you can plan for this course of action

[cunning bone]

Executor and maniac it is

[rocky raven]

knife isnt a monstrosity killer lol

[cunning bone]

Sadly

Knife best weapon i game

[distant roost]

Bleed

[cunning bone]

No matter the class

Change my mind

[distant roost]

isnt that superb against bosses

16 stacks will only deal like

1.3k damage

[rocky raven]

^

[distant roost]

in the time it takes for bleed to do that damage

you could get uhhhh

bleed take what, 2-4 seconds?

[rocky raven]

if you want boss you do IV uncanny/precog or deimos executor/uncanny

[distant roost]

even with 2 seconds, you can get 2-3 hits out on a knife

which puts you in the 1.8-2k damage range without crits

if all the hits crit, its 3k roughly

[rocky raven]

the logic is nonexistent ya

[distant roost]

Bleed

[rocky raven]

nuff said

[distant roost]

by the time you even get to like

16 stacks on say a rager

which is two criticals

it'd be fuckin dead.

and lacerate reinforces bad habits

aka not hitting weakpoint, which is where all knife damage comes from

[proven stirrup]

You're not always gonna hit weakspots

[plucky flax]

What you want?

[cunning bone]

Knife

What would you do with it?

[proven stirrup]

nvm, I'm not sweaty enough for these conversations. Ignore me.

[distant roost]

If you dont hit the weakpoint you do like

150 damage

Versus 600-ish

If you don't hit weakpoints on knife, you practically are tickling the enemy

[plucky flax]

I would put unyielding and flesh tearer on.

[distant roost]

Bleed is only good on Ogryn and that's only if you take two talents, giving you 60% DR added

[vestal fulcrum]

Wow

[midnight jolt]

I just watched someone using a purgatus but he was been so fast, I tend to charge it fully for hordes, what is your mechanical use recommendation?

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s some takes

[cunning bone]

Why unyielding?

[distant roost]

prolly boss + ogryn damage

[plucky flax]

Unyielding take extra damage from bleed.

[vestal fulcrum]

Re: Precog on knife

[cunning bone]

Oo did not know that

Bet

[plucky flax]

Flak and unyielding are my fav 2 perks on knife.

[vestal fulcrum]

It has a problem that the trigger condition is irrational if you’re using the knife correctly

Which is spamming the push attack

[plucky flax]

And you could have both at 25% so that's sick.

[vestal fulcrum]

You can’t dodge attacks if everything in front of you is lightly staggered from the push itself

[cunning bone]

I swear i see you rock maniac+ flack on all your knives is most your videos

[vestal fulcrum]

This obviously does not apply to every single enemy, but it does not make it very consistent a blessing, either

[distant roost]

Play correctly and it is.

[plucky flax]

Only if I can't get flak unyielding. Actually on zealot with double bleed I don't mind crit chance unyielding.

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, just play correctly, nothing else will go wrong.

[plucky flax]

Unyielding is main priority for me on knife.

[cunning bone]

Shit. Im gonna go through all my knives now

[plucky flax]

It's what work for me man if you are happy with your current stuff.

[cunning bone]

You havent posted a video in like 2 days, im running out of new stuff to try

[plucky flax]

Haven't played much. Next vid would be another knife flamer on zealot with momentum keystone.

Ultra speed.

[cunning bone]

Speed is key

Bet

[plucky flax]

I started work again this week so been busy.

[cunning bone]

Sobbing, fair enough

[plucky flax]

Also I ran out of builds tbh. I could just post gameplays I suppose.

Need new weapons and class man.

[cunning bone]

Ikkkkkkkkkk

But yes gameplay plz

You’re the only reason why im still playing this god forsaken game

[plucky flax]

Me playing knife zealot and got flamed for being far away from team

[cunning bone]

Looooooooo

[vestal fulcrum]

Just take Agent hostage and force them to play vidya

[cunning bone]

Thats not a bad idea

[ornate hamlet]

Chaos Wastes type game mode be amazing

[cunning bone]

Heh, so you were saying unyielding+ crit chance on zealot?

@plucky flax

[midnight jolt]

is there any benefit in fully charging a purgatus for venting? what's the optimal use?

[plucky flax]

That's sick mate I'd just keep flak unyielding too tbh.

And up lacerate to 4.

[cunning bone]

If only i could 😭

[cunning bone]

Nar

I dont think so

Just lets you channel longer

[plucky flax]

With that knife you can 1 crit an elite gunner and leave it to bleed to death.

[cunning bone]

No wayyy

I dont have mods so dont actually know what im hitting for

[plucky flax]

Yeah double bleeds is so strong against shooters pack.

[cunning bone]

If only i knew when i crit

[plucky flax]

You can hear a sound.

It plays a special sound when you crit.

[cunning bone]

Icritting makes a sound????

[vestal fulcrum]

It does

It makes a distinct sound effect

[cunning bone]

Wow i dont pay attention enough

[vestal fulcrum]

Sharp and loud

[plucky flax]

A meaty sound yeah.

Really easy to tell with melee weapons.

If you hear that sound with double bleed knife you can move to the next target.

[midnight jolt]

Test the sound on the meat grinder

[cunning bone]

Heading to meat grinder now then to learn this sound

[cunning bone]

Omg 😩😩😩😩😩

[plucky flax]

Zealot chat hate double bleed but

[cunning bone]

Weirdos is what they are

They just don’t understand

[midnight jolt]

Bro, I'm a Zealot at heart OK

[plucky flax]

Also with double bleed knife you actually want to body shot. Only headshot crusher, ogryns, and monsters.

[cunning bone]

I am too, running around as a psyker using a knife

[gloomy magnet]

psylot

[cunning bone]

O yeah, do psykers and zealots start regenerating stamina faster than veterans?

It feels like they do imma be real

[ionic needle]

psykers do, not sure about zealots

[cunning bone]

I can spam push attack with no stamina on those 2 classes more than i can on vet unless i get that 0.25 stamina thing

[midnight jolt]

I started playing 5 days ago, I have a Zealot and Psyker Lv30, playing Zealot with a hammer 😉

but Psyker has become more interesting than "I AM UNSTOPPABLE"

[cunning bone]

Try knife and you’ll bust

Best weapon in game, trust

[midnight jolt]

I have the god roll Dueling Sword for Psyker, same for Purgatus staff

it is becoming harder to get back to my Zealot, but will do for weeklies

[plucky flax]

Yeah shorter delay to start regen on psyker and zealot.

Vet can shorten it with talents though.

[cunning bone]

Thats gay

[midnight jolt]

#psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

[mossy surge]

And after using two talents, you get about the same Stam Regen as a psyker

Well, "two" points

[cunning bone]

Ill reiterate, try knife and you’ll bust

[plucky flax]

Yes big investment but it's funny.

[mossy surge]

Works for melee vet

[halcyon agate]

Guys, what perk is for purge staff?

[ionic needle]

you ever have one of those days where you just play like absolute shit? can't tell how many times I've exploded today, just shameful

[halcyon agate]

I feel that for every game of psyker

[gloomy magnet]

embrace Gunker

[near wyvern]

Google Psyker Atheneum for the complete list

[stone canyon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

Im just using it to check out if my Trauma staff rolled sufficiently high enough

Seems blast radius was important

[stark notch]

How do you build trauma btw?

Someone told me surge is good on it

[rocky raven]

surge is useless on trauma

[dapper shadow]

Surge shouldn't even be available for trauma

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/645229655267475479.webp?size=48&name=Penthsive&quality=lossless

[cunning bone]

Me but everyday (can’t relate to the exploding self part though)

[dapper shadow]

ogryns take the least brain for me to play, psyker the most

[hot zephyr]

Trauma you need damage, charge and blast radius as top stats, above 75% each preferred, all stats are important so something with good even distrib is likely going to feel better than something with a dump stat. Then you want to get Warp Flurry and Rending Shockwave for blessings on it, and then for perks you typically want your choice of flak/maniac/carapace for some extra damage from perks.

[upper sun]

empower can also crit right?

[hot zephyr]

Like an empowered BR or Assail? Yes

[upper sun]

yeah sweet

[stone canyon]

Damage is not so important, but 46% is too low already?

[rocky raven]

garbage

[echo frigate]

Also your burn isn't high enough

I think

[rocky raven]

yup

[stone canyon]

But ok, ill pass it

[hot zephyr]

76 is fine

[echo frigate]

Oh

Maybe I'm thinking of the zealot fire stick

[hot zephyr]

The damage is a little low but if your new or don't have a good one yet it's playable

[stone canyon]

Well, id rather have something decent, as Purgatus is not a priority for me

[hot zephyr]

Yeah so then just pass

[stone canyon]

Got good Voidstrike and Columnus V builds already so next one id rather have not perfect but atleast good enough it doesnt feel too overshadowed by those because mediocre items

[plucky flax]

Damage is dump stat. It only scales for 2 or 3 damage.

[echo frigate]

Oh wait

Dmg on purg doesn't do anything

Lol

Your good

[plucky flax]

I used to play with a <40% damage purga.

[stone canyon]

Okay thanks, buying it for future mat rich times when boredom causes to try out new stuff

[summer prairie]

the damage value doesn't scale but at 80% dmg it ticks every 0.32s and that staff maybe every 0.36s. Not a big deal but not entirely irrelevant (this is the pure dmg tick, not SB application tick)

[plucky flax]

True if I could have 1 stat as lowest it'd be warp resistance.

[vestal fulcrum]

For more frequent Venting sneeze?

[plucky flax]

Yeah. I struggle to build up to high peril with purga.

More damage more crit.

[stone canyon]

If id want something to try it would be Trauma anyway, not Purgatus, but ill take every shop opportunity to avoid buying masses of grey base items from Brunts

[idle bay]

Now i want a mod that replaces usual Shriek sound with loud "Achuuuu!" with some-kind of "psyhic" echo 🙂

[summer prairie]

I tested a 80% dmg staff vs monster and it did 407dps while 40% did 366dps (no blessings/perks/talents)

admittedly you don't use purg like that

but should be the same for other targets

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s a sneeze indeed. Heretics are covered in your goobers and they experience terrible agony.

[stone canyon]

Im most of the day at home, but too busy to play, yet i have time to check shop every 1h or so and buy if something catches my eye, gotten decent set of base items to work on once i get more mats so far

[plucky flax]

Rip buying stuff from mobile.

Fs killed it

[stone canyon]

https://accounts.atoma.cloud/dashboard

Yeah mobile would be even more handy

[mighty olive]

pweese Darktide Santa, gib Psykers a Psi-Veil with no collar or mask!

https://tenor.com/view/praying-mateo-superstore-sign-of-the-cross-prier-gif-9684878

[vocal cliff]

Just for that expect a reskin of the ugliest psyker outfit imaginable

[idle bay]

I want bathrobe and fluffy slippers for siblings!

[mighty olive]

ooo that does sound quite nice!

[stone canyon]

I Put on My Robe and Wizard Hat**I cast Lvl. 3 Eroticism. You turn into a real beautiful ogryn.

[mighty olive]

Roflmao

[hot zephyr]

I'm suddenly feeling a lot better about using SG in my psylot build. I think skipping warp speed last time was a mistake. Makes going zoom zoom with the knife feel very good

Just had a good run retrying it on for size

[summer prairie]

pure SB is only around 240 dps unyielding at 15 stacks by the way, so over a third of the damage is from the direct damage (over 40% even)

[hot zephyr]

That makes sense. I definitely feel there's a decent direct damage component. Does the stagger on the lmb scale with damage too?

I feel like it probably would

[summer prairie]

I don't think so

[stone canyon]

Shame about the perk

Its true the Psiveil could use version with only the metal part, my female Psyker could be a dude now as nothing shows her gender underneath it

[plucky flax]

From grey. How is this shitty crafting system gave me a tier 2 blessing with a 378 base weapon.

[hot zephyr]

I mean, at least hadron didn't brick it

Bloodthirsty and flak are good

[plucky flax]

Not my style

I would have taken tier 2 deflector.

[hot zephyr]

Yeah I mean certain blessings the tier doesn't even matter. Brutal Momentum, Warp Flurry, Deflector, even some like Lacerate or Flesh Tearer you really just need T1 or T2 for it work

T2 flesh tearer baby

[distant roost]

76% is the same for that

76% is the breakpoint threshold

[plucky flax]

Lacerate t1 or t2 vs t4 is pretty big.

[distant roost]

it

does matter

a lot for bleed

Bleed is exponential

[hot zephyr]

Bleed stacks cap at 16 stacks

[distant roost]

yes

and it has shit damage below 12

[hot zephyr]

So T4 you get full stacks in two crits, and T2/3 you get full stacks on three crits

[distant roost]

and yea an extra crit is the difference between a dead rager or not

lacerate its even more apparent

as you sacrifice a weakspot hit for tickle damage on center mass

[hot zephyr]

Yes, if you look at the DOT damage in a vaccum it feels like it matters a lot

[distant roost]

If you look at it in a vaccuum, you'll also see most targets are dead in the hits to apply the bleed

[hot zephyr]

Reality is on anything less than a BoN or Plague Ogryn you'll probably not stack up full stacks before it dies anyways

Yeah we're on the same page there

Bleeds are for boss damage for psykers. It's a whole different game on Zealot, but that's not relevant here

[distant roost]

on zealot you dont need bleed blessin cuz scourge funny

[plucky flax]

Me recommend bleed on zealot

[distant roost]

run scourge, no need smh

[plucky flax]

I run scourge.

[hot zephyr]

He also plays with gore on maximum. He likes to paint the town red.

[mystic burrow]

i like red

chinese new year is coming we put red stuff all over our houses during those times

idk if the blood of heretics count, but im damn sure splattering my place with it

[hexed geyser]

Why is uncanny strike good on a ds mk4? I feel like i'm only hitting maniacs and unyielding with it anyway.

[distant roost]

Allows you to deal with armored targets

Maulers/Crushers namely

[next zephyr]

https://tenor.com/view/rat-gif-20277729

[stone canyon]

Why does my Psyker get the "do 90% to monstrosity with the most awkward skill in the game" penance, when it could be handed out to Zealot wielding Crucis Hammer instead?

[raw token]

does charge rate matter on voidstrike?