psyker-class

[dim parrot]

so happy that I'm done with it so far

is it tho?

[spiral minnow]

illisi sword is really nice for leveling, light for single, heavy for hordes .)

[feral verge]

yes

1.6k hours of experience has taught me so

on deimos, uncanny strike and executor is the way to go

why not slaughterer? slaughterer is best on a horde clearing weapon. deimos can horde clear, but it is clearly designed to be a single target wep

[dim parrot]

ooh didn't know u were talking about deimos lmao

ye idk shit about deimos, only using illisi my beloved

[mossy surge]

The Deimos swings leaves make you feel weak

[dim parrot]

slaughterer with unstable good combi on illisi btw?

[plucky flax]

Uncanny most important blessing for deimos.

It would be yeah.

Slaughterer imo is most important blessing for illisi. 2nd is personal choice (I like deflector)

[dim parrot]

sadly deflector isn't anything 4 me

for me its only damage and more damage

[plucky flax]

I am not that good.

[near wyvern]

Uncanny most important blessing for deimos.

Fixed that statement.

[dim parrot]

neither am I lmao, but I try to get better!

[plucky flax]

Me when I play knife without uncanny on zealot.

[dim parrot]

dont make me feel bad about losing uncanny for unstable

[near wyvern]

Wrong chat

[plucky flax]

[plucky flax]

If it was this easy
@mossy surge

[plucky flax]

I buy 10 of the item I want and none of them is above 330 rating.

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-crying-crying-in-the-shower-broken-heart-gif-21572276

[mossy surge]

I buy 10 of them, everytime I get 380. It's always DMG/finesse dump stat

"10"

Multiple that by x

[dim parrot]

just did that yesterday lmao

[feral verge]

yes, especially before the patch

[dim parrot]

the results were alright, but def not worth all my money

[feral verge]

but now, i think uncanny + unstable is better, if you want a balanced illisi

by balanced, i mean an illisi that has better single target capability

some here might call running illisi without slaughterer crazy, but it already mulches hordes without slaughterer

so, i prefer to shore up that weakness by running unstable power

which, is 20% power that you can effitively run at all times

you would need 3 stacks of slaughterer in order to beat unstable power

[dim parrot]

so would u change it?

also sry if its too bright

[rocky raven]

holy saturation

[dim parrot]

xD

[feral verge]

for single target, i reccomend activating special, then doing a light attack. rinse and repeat until it's dead. i only special power attack muties. for horde clear, use activated special heavy attack, then a regular light attack. rinse and repeat till horde dead

[west bronze]

"deepfried" does rhyme with "darktide"

[minor pelican]

should i be smiting whenever, or should i just be saving it for hordes and elites?

[feral verge]

elite and special groups only

[minor pelican]

gotcha, im used to throwing crack rock's, but i wanted to try smiting and i like it better than the crack rocks

[feral verge]

it's better to just help the team kill the horde

with smite you're just stunning the horde really, which is just slower than actually just killing them. a dead enemy is a permanently CC'd enemy

[trim valve]

Ahh I was looking for this kind of comment, could you tell me your psyker smite set up?

[feral verge]

i barely use smite

[west bronze]

almost

[feral verge]

not really a fan because it takes me out of the game

as josho said

when you use smite, you are just entering a conrtact with the enemies that neither of you will do anything

you are both just locked in place

[mossy surge]

Same here, only use it on scab melee only if we lack a cc

[trim valve]

But do you recall what kind of talents were you using, at least the keystones?

Maybe the blitz?

[west bronze]

I have an empowered smite + surge staff build

[feral verge]

this is my smite build

that i barely play

[minor pelican]

i see im still a weee level 15

[trim valve]

Hmm is always the Warp Siphon Smite the one generating this kind of feedback.

[feral verge]

i dont like empowered psionics smite

EP needs a buff

[mossy surge]

You should play assail gunker for lvling up

[trim valve]

Yes, most people don't run EP smite.

[minor pelican]

gunker?

[mossy surge]

The way assail work makes you contribute with DMG

[feral verge]

the problem with EP, is that it doesnt do enough damage, for how quickly you generate peril. i'd rather run warp sipohn so i can keep enemies stunned for longer

[mossy surge]

Psyker gunner

For gun psyker

[trim valve]

Yeap, that is the source of the problem. Inner tranquility smite, stay far longer stun lock smiting targets, take almost twice as long to electrocute as many as EP could and do no damage in the process.

[mossy surge]

#psyker-class message

[trim valve]

It is still a mystery for me why even when is not uncommon to see people complain about smite psykers being useless or feeling bad to use when paired with Inner tranquility it is still consider the best option and EP the noob option.

[feral verge]

EP needs a buff in general

let it proc off of special kills, maybe let it do increased warp damage per stack

[trim valve]

So you want warp siphon 2.0?

[feral verge]

anything to give me a reason to use it

[trim valve]

I get people not wanting to use it with smite, in paper it does not sound appealing but you don't find any reason to use it with Brain Rupture?? Or even with Assail?

[rocky raven]

no. 3 charges of slightly better assail or faster BB does nothing for the rest of the kit

i'll take alldmg + full ult uptime or movespeed/crit/regen/dmg any day over that

[trim valve]

If you were to quantify how much better the "rest of the kit" gets compared with how much better the blitz get with EP, do you feel like conditional 24% more damage with 3 extra talent point spend is far more powerful than for example having the ability to cast a blitz for free with a considerable performance boost?

How important is that potential 24% damage? Do you have particular breakpoints that are not met without it?

[rocky raven]

24% dmg always up + shriek/bubble always off CD is the quantification lol

sounds like you are crutching on blitz tbh

[tired estuary]

I'd rather flush EP down the toilet and replace it with something interesting/fun

[rocky raven]

facts^

gib melee capstone FS 🙏

[feral verge]

yeah having 24% dmg boost is huge

you are killing everything 24% faster

[trim valve]

Ohhh no

Ahh I kinda miss the math geeks from PoE

[rocky raven]

we know the math

[trim valve]

Well I don't

I don't quite know how much higher the smite DPS get's with smite EP, I just notice it jumps way faster than 50%, and the faster it jumps the faster you start doing damage.

[rocky raven]

1 vent > 6 stacks blaze > idc how long it takes to smite that horde wave is already dead and not my problem anymore

[trim valve]

If you could enlighten me with the smite math I could appreciate it.

Sadly horde does not die with a single 6 stack vent.

[tired estuary]

It does tho

[rocky raven]

lol

[tired estuary]

6 stacks is enough to kill basic marksmen too

[unreal axle]

basic horde does, but basic horde is basic horde :V

[trim valve]

If you let them cook sure, but that's a bit slow.

[tired estuary]

Its not that slow esp considering how much range it has for what it is

[rocky raven]

^

[feral verge]

6 stack vent cast at ~83% peril deletes hordes

way faster than smite could ever hope to be

[rocky raven]

on the ground + on fire idc if they cookin or step into another bullet theyre out of the way and ded

[trim valve]

Fine, you guys seem to know your numbers. How long does it take to kill a horde guy after setting him on fire with 6 blaze stacks?

Hello?

[rocky raven]

abt 4-5sec prob? i dont keep an eye on em cause they toasted

[feral verge]

i have never counted, but 1.6k hours of experience, i know it muclhes hordes. it's common knowledge how fast and powerful venting shriekd/ascendant blaze is

i have mained an AB build for months and months

before the update it deleted hordes, after the update it deleted hordes

[trim valve]

AB?

[feral verge]

in fact, it's the fastest way to delete a horde in the game, besides ogryn nuke, i'd wager

ascendant blaze

tthee old name for it

[distant roost]

Blaze is goated

[rocky raven]

6 stacks nothing else at least 2x as fast as a smite just tested in psyk

and the reach of that proc hnnnngg

[distant roost]

Yea it’s up there with Immolation, Flamer and nuke.

[feral verge]

yes, plus you can ult into spawn doors

you dont need line of sight

it's the most 'ultimate' feeling ultimate ability in the game

scoreboards from a AB/venting shriek with purga staff build

you are not gonna output this damage without warp siphon

[tired estuary]

even without purge staff ab vent is good

speaking of which plz give us new staves

I think I want that even more than 2h ogryn melee

[unreal axle]

staff variants or new staves yes please

same

[feral verge]

i want a staff rework

[unreal axle]

I want surge staff buffs

[west bronze]

I want buffs on all staffs

[feral verge]

make the lmbs different on existing staves, make staff special do something neat (or better yet, have it be unique to every staff)

[distant roost]

Oh lord if they ever add a 2H Ogryn melee it better have some of the highest impact in game

[unreal axle]

honestly I think what would go a long way with a slight damage bump on surge staff, was if short charges crowd control more enemies and then full charging it focuses the damage into one target

[tired estuary]

I just want to pancake a poxwalker like its dark souls 2

[feral verge]

out every class, psyker is in need of new weapons the most

we really do need new staves

[unreal axle]

I want ogryn to just get a piece of rebar, or even better the crusher melee xD

[feral verge]

psyker is the staff class, and we have been stuck with 4 staves since launch

[tired estuary]

yeah I want the concrete popsicle too

[feral verge]

whereas every other class has multiple ranged options

[cobalt atlas]

I mean

Gun Psyker exist

[feral verge]

i know

[unreal axle]

well ogryn's mostly been stuck with their guns the whole time too :V ogryn needs it even more than psyker does imo

[feral verge]

yo dont need to tell me

[cobalt atlas]

I can't really think of a way that Staff variant can be added anymore

[feral verge]

but most people who player psyker want to be a space wizard with a staff

not use a gun

[feral verge]

vermintide?

[tired estuary]

nah ogryn's gotten different stubber marks and all their older stuff has been buffed to hell and back

[cobalt atlas]

Yeah

[feral verge]

vermintide has staff variants that are not in darktide

[cobalt atlas]

I don't want SotT staff thou

[feral verge]

which in theory, could be easily added into darktide

just change some numbers, change the color from red/fire to blue/grey

[tired estuary]

gimme bolt staff

[spiral minnow]

what keystone would u pair with shards?

[cobalt atlas]

Bolt Staff is literally Surge Staff

Unironically

[distant roost]

Disrupt is my go to

But I run gunker or void usually

[tired estuary]

yeah its good with disrupt and warp siphon

[feral verge]

i dont even care if new staves would fill same roles as current staves

what's wrong with variety

[tired estuary]

good with getting stonks in both keystones

[cobalt atlas]

The thing wrong about variety is the same with the problem with gun right now

if you don't try everything out and classify them

you have no idea what they do tbh

[distant roost]

Ok and

Give us cool shit lmao

[feral verge]

epends on what weapon yo uare using

[fast flame]

wish the staffs had an actual useful special attack

[spiral minnow]

leveling and i got illisi and inf lasgun

[hard widget]

is staff melee like

usable

does it do any dmg

[feral verge]

it doesnt to any real damage

[distant roost]

It’s more a

[hard widget]

Im still levelling psyker lol, Ive had it not levelled for so long

[distant roost]

“Bonk the thing as a oh shit how did I even hit the special”

[feral verge]

it can stagger, but so can staff lmb, staff rmb,

[distant roost]

Yea only time I’ve ever used it was to bully a poxwalker

[fast flame]

yep, it's trash. No reason to ever use it bar the lulz

[distant roost]

Or a bonk something so I can quell

But I think it’s used effectively once a match

[fast flame]

sweeping it to hit multple targets whilst still doing no damage to give some space would be nice. Or make it do actual damage

[west fjord]

Guess I'm trying out executor for a bit

[hard widget]

what weapons should I use with brain burst and EP

[feral verge]

it stacks on special activation hit to the head

like uncanny strike

[west fjord]

To 4 stacks?

[feral verge]

you can get 4 stacks

yea

[west fjord]

Nice

[feral verge]

executor is slept on, for deimos

slaughter is not needed, because you arent horde clearing with deimos

the only other blessing i'd consider is unstable power

which i have used for a very long time

[hard widget]

what modifiers do I pick up for venting shriek with brain burst?

[outer ocean]

creeping flames

[flint plover]

I love Executor, the only issue of course is that the stacks immediately drop if you hit a non weak point. Good for weapons that have a lot of overheads in a row, or consistently hit wide headshots

[cobalt atlas]

https://hbr.org/2017/05/the-problem-with-product-proliferation Im too lazy to explain why too much sometime is a bad thing

You could read about it ig

especially with the name scheme of WH40k

it's stupidly hard to distinguish what does weapon do without already using it

[hard widget]

are the blessings for the staves shared across all 4 of em?

[cobalt atlas]

I have like the longest time (Skill issue) understanding what is a surge and void

[hard widget]

Ive just gotten around to levelling a psyker ( bout time)

and I dont understand anything

apart from the fact that I need to get rid of this combat axe so I can quell on my melee weapon

[cobalt atlas]

Dont worry, the game do a poor job telling you what is a surge/void/purg

You could try Deimos which is one of the best single target force sword

Illisi if you want to do wave clearing

[hard widget]

Im still levelling it, but from a glance at penances it looks like Il be needing brain rupture

and empowered psionics

so Im gonna build that first

[cobalt atlas]

If you want to deal with pennance, I suggest taking middle keystone

because Brain Rupture are stupidly long to charge up

[hard widget]

yeah thats empowered psionics

and thats why Im gonna pick it up

so Im just gonna get good weapons that synergize with that

[cobalt atlas]

Purgatus staff are good with Brain Burster because Purgatus -> Kill Hordes

[hard widget]

thats the fire staff Im assuming?

does the fire from purgatus count as soulblaze

im assuming it doesnt

[rocky raven]

crits apply blaze stacks from purg

[cobalt atlas]

Fire from Purgatus = SoulBlaze

Yes the FlameThrower Staff

[hard widget]

currently im deciding if I want one with the warp or anticipation

[hearty oak]

Didnt someone say anticipation was broken right now?

[digital narwhal]

The dodge duration is unchanged, yes

You only benefit from the extra dodge charge

[cobalt atlas]

Alwas take One with the Warp because how squishy is Psyker in terms of TDR

[hard widget]

well one with the warp it is then

[digital narwhal]

I'm an Empathic Evasion enjoyer

[hard widget]

yeah but anticipation sounds good, mind you, Im still a level away from trying either

[digital narwhal]

[cobalt atlas]

also the fact that you don't have access to True Aim with a staff

Except you're running Void

[hearty oak]

on gunker, you are quite literally dodging bullets like neo

[digital narwhal]

Mhm

[cobalt atlas]

I would build like this if I wanna finish brain rupture pennance

DC 4 / Deimos + Purgatus Staff

[hard widget]

you didnt take kinetic resonance though

doesnt that buff bb

[hearty oak]

they are not using BB much

[rocky raven]

worst talent in the game, just below veteran 20% sprint efficency

[cobalt atlas]

You only use Brain Burst to kill stuff you can't touch

[hearty oak]

Im not awake yet

[cobalt atlas]

and Kinetic Resonance only happen when you use ability

If you really really want to play as much brain burst, you wouldn't be taking dome but venting Shriek

[rocky raven]

oh god wwait you took the bad one

[hard widget]

yeah

[hard widget]

you told me earlier kinetic flayer was the bad one

[rocky raven]

idr the names whatever one is the 10% rando chance 30s cooldown is the bad one

[cobalt atlas]

The thing with Kinetic Resonnance is, Empowered Psionics is already strong

[hearty oak]

I enjoy flayer for the strong burst damage i get on targets

[cobalt atlas]

Which you have a lot of Damage, a lot of Cast Time Reduction

[rocky raven]

you told him to take flayer i dont trust anything you say

[cobalt atlas]

Purgatus staff

[rocky raven]

1 moob, 30 seconds. horrid perk

[cobalt atlas]

15 Seconds thou

[rocky raven]

same difference its useless

[cobalt atlas]

If a target have SoulBlaze, it trigger Brain Burst

Which help you finish the pennance

[rocky raven]

its not going to trigger on the correct elite and at the correct time to matter

[cobalt atlas]

I mean, you're here to finish the pennances to begin

rather than trying to meta gamin

[digital narwhal]

Flayer is bad

[hearty oak]

It does with surge staff

[rocky raven]

correct, so you run resonance + vent

[hearty oak]

Can be selective with your target

[rocky raven]

charge 1 > vent > spam 3

[feral verge]

flayer is bad feat

never flayer

[digital narwhal]

It's literally just a 15 second overkill on Poxwalkers, since it's statistically more likely to trigger in a Poxwalker than anything else

[cobalt atlas]

Require you to press and charge BB

I don't really do that to finish my penances

[digital narwhal]

Why run Flayer when it doesn't do anything?

[cobalt atlas]

Penance

[digital narwhal]

What Penance does it give you?

[rocky raven]

he clearly POW'd theres no thinking goin on here

[cobalt atlas]

I believe some ugly ass skin but it's aight

[digital narwhal]

Which Penance challenge?

What does the Penance require?

[cobalt atlas]

Let me check on that, I believe 1000 brain burst something

Since I took this to finish the penance

[rocky raven]

pick n mix 4 diff elite/slecs 12 sec bb

[hearty oak]

Ill take the 10% burst damage on hit than 10% to quell peril on kill.

More damage being outputted

[feral verge]

there are other feat s you could choose

[digital narwhal]

Statistically, it triggers on Poxwalkers ~93% of the time.

[feral verge]

i would take 5% toughness dmg reduction over flayer

[digital narwhal]

Plus, 10% chance to quell 10% Peril is super strong on every Staff build.

[willow escarp]

Kinetic flayer should obviously only have an activation cooldown per-target

if even

[hearty oak]

Never notice. With surge, i can focus on elites and happens to hit them more often

[digital narwhal]

Kinetic Flayer needs to straight up be replaced with something.
It's just not able to be fixed imo.

[rocky raven]

facts

[hearty oak]

I wont say no to a change. Im just fine with having more damage with my surge or voidstrike

[digital narwhal]

A free 300 damage every 15 seconds

mmmm

yummy

[hearty oak]

Ye. ill take it

But i see it as just doing damage to the things i need dead

[cobalt atlas]

I think I finished PowerUp by using Kinetic Flayer with Purgatus staff as I don't pull out my hand to snap something

Cuz my build revolves around Warp Siphon and Smite Purgatus staff + Dome usually

[digital narwhal]

Bro got lucky.
The fact you got Power Up solely with Flayer means you're genuinely one of the most fortunate individuals on Earth.

Congrats man.

You beat math.

[cobalt atlas]

Im not joking thou

I never take middle keystone and Venting Shiek

[rocky raven]

purg staff... takes everything but the crit perks at top.... yea OK

[feral verge]

yeah that's goofy

[digital narwhal]

Lets see your build man

I'm curious

[cobalt atlas]

The one I rush to get pennances or?

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait it's up in chat

wtf is this

[rocky raven]

i need a drink and its 8am lmao

[digital narwhal]

Perilous Combustion doesn't even trigger from Soulblaze kills, so if this is your Purgatus build, then that's already dumb

[ionic needle]

So many heretical choices in that tree

[feral verge]

sorry but yeah that is the goofiest build

[silk vigil]

It’s interesting to say the least

[cobalt atlas]

Here you go for my purg + d4 build instead

[rocky raven]

STILL TAKES FLAYER OVER CRIT LMAO

[feral verge]

bruh

purg without venting shriek

[rocky raven]

gimme your steamID so i can block it i never want this in my auric games jfc

[digital narwhal]

FLAYER AND PERILOUS OVER METTLE AND PERFECT TIMING

BRUH

Perilous doesn't even proc from Soulblaze kills

It's genuinely a dead Talent for you

[cobalt atlas]

Tbh block me because I had been playing auric mael with this build and have no issue tbh

[ionic needle]

You're running purgatus with wc and you don't grab the point to generate from soulblaze??

[digital narwhal]

Bro's posting scoreboards

[cobalt atlas]

I mean yall saying it's a bad build because im not following the rite of psyker or something

im saying that it's alright

[ionic needle]

Are you John in this image?

[rocky raven]

no we're saying you have literall unactivated perks.....

[cobalt atlas]

Yea Im John in this image

[digital narwhal]

Again, Perilous doesn't even trigger from Soulblaze kills, so the fact it's on a Purgatus build means you genuinely don't know how it works.
This is solid evidence for you just not knowing how a lot of your Talents work in the first place.

[cobalt atlas]

Its been long since I last play psyker since im spec-ing into other class atm

[digital narwhal]

Therefore, Scoreboards tell us nothing.

[ionic needle]

And you're thinking that scoreboard is somehow disproving your build being not good?

[digital narwhal]

You could've been carried.
AI director could've been kind.

etc. etc.

[feral verge]

run this and you will get 1 million damage on the mercantile map

[cobalt atlas]

Im stating that people are going mad because I take flayer

not like it's a dooms day event

[rocky raven]

oh no thats the least of the issues here and i never tht id say that

[ionic needle]

Almost any build can clear maelstrom with a good team though, doesn't really mean you pulled your weight

[digital narwhal]

bro's ignoring this

[ionic needle]

339 crits with purgatus in a maelstrom

[rocky raven]

well we know why soulburn dmg isnt being tracked thats for sure

[feral verge]

2.5k crits

[hearty oak]

We really just in here roasting someone for not following a build guide

[digital narwhal]

I wonder what bro thinks of my Purgatus build.

[cobalt atlas]

I don't understand about this, could you explain in details as I tested in Psykarium that have different respond to it

If you say that it doesn't stack upon pver curent flame, yea im aware of that

[digital narwhal]

Any kills from Soulblaze DoT won't trigger Perilous Combustion

[digital narwhal]

That's Wildfire

not Perilous Combustion

Take Wildfire off

[cobalt atlas]

There's no wildfire

you could see

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait mb

[cobalt atlas]

....

[rocky raven]

direct dmg not dot tick

[digital narwhal]

Ye, show a clip of the DoT doing it

[cobalt atlas]

As I said, I had been only using Purg staff spam over target

[digital narwhal]

Here let me just do it then

Gimme a sec

:^)

[cobalt atlas]

Which I took this because well, I had been spamming flame ontop of stuff

but people just got mad because DoT doesn't do it huh

[digital narwhal]

You're isolating individual points to make us look like we're blowing things out of proportion

Stop

it's not a good look

[cobalt atlas]

I mean yall making it sound like a doomsday event without considering that's how I play Psyker Purg

saying it's a skill issue

[digital narwhal]

The fact this equates to "doomsday event" in your mind is telling of something

Also, when did we say "skill issue"?

Your build is just wack
We explained
And now we're trying to show why

[ionic needle]

Now this is a purg build with some chest hair

[digital narwhal]

[cobalt atlas]

Not quote on quote skill issue but "Let me block this guy because I don't want this guy in my auric game"

[digital narwhal]

Can you show me where? The message you quoted isn't coming up in the search

[cobalt atlas]

#psyker-class message

[rocky raven]

oh i def did lmao

[digital narwhal]

Ahhhhh

[cobalt atlas]

Im okay if you guys said this is not okay, here's how to build it better

[digital narwhal]

Still, did thet say "skill issue"?

Because if not, then you're straw manning

[cobalt atlas]

Uhm okay then

I guess so

Definitely strawmanning rn

[digital narwhal]

"an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument."

Yes

Now, let's stick to things actually said, instead of "Well it was basically this"

[ionic needle]

Maybe they're not, but I am, building a somewhat sensible build able to make you pull your weight is a skill

[rocky raven]

@ionic needle the balls on that build lol

[ionic needle]

It actually melts in scab only, maulers going down in seconds

[cobalt atlas]

Also, I only play psyker for its support capability, which is the Dome spam with Warp Siphon

[digital narwhal]

And that changes our points how?

The points were on Flayer, Perilous, and such Talents

not on what your build is aiming to accomplish

[rocky raven]

"id rather more damage" on a perk that does nothing vs not wanting to hear that you dont take the 2 most important crit perks in a crit build

[cobalt atlas]

Pennances objective because I wouldn't be charging Brain Burster

and I don't take middle keystone simply I never get to stack it well

[ionic needle]

So if your build is support oriented, why aren't you choosing psykinetics aura over wildfire and seers presence over kinetic presence?

[rocky raven]

#psyker-class message
your "main" build

same thing.

[eager mantle]

I would say you guys acting like his build is an affront to build knowledge is close enough. I like PC because I'm using BB on the elite anyways

[cobalt atlas]

End up didn't saw enough return over CD

[digital narwhal]

You said he never uses Brain Burst normally though, so we've been operating off of that knowledge

He's trusting Flayer to perfectly target Elites while using Purgatus

[ionic needle]

Both of those talents affect your team too though? How would you know about their returns?

[cobalt atlas]

I would like to say no to this tbh

You think I perfectly trust Flayer to take out Elites, I just want to finish the pennances without charging BB

if so I wouldn't be taking DS4

[cobalt atlas]

Because I tried couple game with friends and they say it didn't seem to bother them that much

insignificant for them

so I end up dropping it

[digital narwhal]

So you understand Flayer statistically is targeting Poxwalkers over 95% of the time if you aren't using a gun?

[cobalt atlas]

Yeah, I don't really care about it thou

[plucky flax]

I have skill issue it's true

[glossy solstice]

Even using a gun it’s pretty bad it takes 15 to 21 bullets to Prock it’s 22 bullets to arrive at 90% chance

[digital narwhal]

Oh I know

Trust me, I know

anyway, my brain is melting so I'm gonna dip

[eager mantle]

Trauma popping rager heads with flayer is satisfying.

[ionic needle]

So you end up dropping them for wildfire and 5% elite damage, two of the worst points in the tree. On your support build.

[plucky flax]

Now that's interesting build.

[eager mantle]

Happens more often for me than you'd think using the Blaze trauma and I hear the pop of the rager, shotgunner or gunner more often than I thought would

[cobalt atlas]

I would love to opt into the CDR Aura but I believe Toughness Replenishment only work on Coherency Toughness

[hearty oak]

People sometimes be sleeping on free burst damage

[cobalt atlas]

while the other one is 5% TDR

[plucky flax]

I'd take flayer if we had like 33 points.

I don't have enough points for flayer.

[digital narwhal]

It works for everything on that specific node iirc

[eager mantle]

I'll take flayer because it's 1 point and I'm not hurting with it

[digital narwhal]

You certainly aren't

[plucky flax]

What do you lose on your blaze trauma build?

If you don't take wildfire I kill you.

[cobalt atlas]

Doesn't that also mean all Toughness Replenishment tooltip on Ogryn mean otherwise

[ionic needle]

That's one single minor node that's slightly worse for a trade off of having pretty huge CDR for your entire team

[eager mantle]

I take it

[digital narwhal]

No, because Fatshark has horrid descriptions for Toughness Replenishment

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is bae

[digital narwhal]

It can be entirely different for each instance

:)

Fatshark'd

[hearty oak]

W I L D F I R E

[cobalt atlas]

Im confused, so Toughness Replenishment in Psyker work differently somehow

[digital narwhal]

The only case where it works for all Toughness on Ogryn is with Too Stubborn To Die

[plucky flax]

[steep estuary]

Is it better to get +15 Toughness or the 5% toughness damage reduction?

[digital narwhal]

+15 Toughness

[feral verge]

15 toughness

as any class, you really want 150 toughness minimum

[steep estuary]

Oh my lord its Mankar Camoran. I'm having flashbacks

Ok yeah, I'll make sure I've got more toughness than DR

[feral verge]

ahh, the cat's paw of the septim's here at last

[digital narwhal]

Seems a little high for a minimum tbh

[ionic needle]

Wildfire with purgatus has to be just a dead point, no?

[plucky flax]

Me zealot and psyker have no where near 150 toughness.

[eager mantle]

Idc how many poxwalkers flayer hits. I'll remember each time it proc'd on ragers

[plucky flax]

On my martyrdom build I have 100.

[digital narwhal]

*proc'd

[feral verge]

the lowest toughness i have on any build is 150

on my purga psyker

[digital narwhal]

Look at me, I'm smart

[cobalt atlas]

Everything else work with Peril right

[digital narwhal]

Guys, look at me

:)

[steep estuary]

What I need to do is beat the twins on hard mode

[feral verge]

i have 166 toughness on my marty build on zealot

[plucky flax]

Curios is such a personal thing though.

[cobalt atlas]

or is there other instances that doesn't work with peril

[digital narwhal]

What you mean?

[plucky flax]

I would never say anything concrete like "YOU MUST HAVE X AMOUNT MINIMUM"

[cobalt atlas]

You show DoT doesn't pop Peril, is there any other such interaction

[eager mantle]

Stam regen, Sprint and block efficiency on all my 3 Stam curios

[feral verge]

i see alot of ppl fold with low toughness

[digital narwhal]

Ohhhh Perilous
Yeah, don't refer to Perilous as Peril
Peril already means something

It's just Soulblaze that doesn't proc it, to help avoid snowballing

[feral verge]

if i see a 90 toughness psyker i know they will be on the floor most of the game

[plucky flax]

Very based.

Hard core carry and ressing I bet.

[ionic needle]

Dagger psyker spotted

[near wyvern]

Purg build but no creeping flames, sadge, all that monstrosity damage potential

[ionic needle]

But the crits though!!

[eager mantle]

Actually trying to build a dagger for my psyker atm

[digital narwhal]

Crit Chance + Carapace
Flesh Tearer + Uncanny Strike

[ionic needle]

Im running mk 6 on my gunker build, it's hilarious how fast you can move around with it

[eager mantle]

Gotta run scriers with my brunt special staff

[cobalt atlas]

I do also need to ask where does Purg staff Crit come from?

[feral verge]

huh

[cobalt atlas]

there's only 1 node and 1 aura that give up to 10% and nexus which give another 20%?

[feral verge]

warp nexus

blessing

[cobalt atlas]

So Im balling on 30% crit chances with the talent building?

[feral verge]

you should always be at 60% peril or higher

never go below

[eager mantle]

Need see a game with everyone running knife and at least 1 vet, 1 zealot, and 1 psyker

[near wyvern]

I would swap kinetic flayer for kinetic resonance. Kinetic Flayer used to be good when it generated charges. Kinetic Resonance + Dome on a pack of gunners works nicely.

[cobalt atlas]

Yea Im running Warp Nexus at the moment and still doesn't see as much Crit as people post

was the 10% so strong in giving back the crit or?

[feral verge]

are you playing at 60-90% peril

[cobalt atlas]

Yea always

Im trying to be on as high peril as possible

[ionic needle]

Every weapon has a base crit chance as well, right?

So it's not just 30%

[feral verge]

most weapons have the same crit chance

some have there own

all classes have their own base crit chance

psyker crit chance is highest, at 7.%%

7.5%

[cobalt atlas]

Purg Staff have Extra Crit Chances? I know that Psyker Crit higher than average

[feral verge]

purga does have higher crit chance

so does surge st aff

i reccomend taking crit feats and stuff, but advise against crit chance on the staff

crit chance is good on staff

but

damage is better

after 100s of hours of trying both, dmg is better

[cobalt atlas]

I mean mine is already bricked as I dont play Psyker that much anymore without a party

yes yes terrifying barrage is not that great

[feral verge]

yeagh that's horrible

[ionic needle]

Yikes

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage is nto that great

it's useless

[cobalt atlas]

no 80% Burn

[ionic needle]

Crit damage on purgatus :<

[feral verge]

you want 76% burn

you dont need 80%

only 76

get something like this and you are golden

[ionic needle]

Swap the damage and quell speed values on that and it's golden

[cobalt atlas]

It's pretty bricked as 2 blessings was terrible to begin

[hard widget]

are blessings among all the staves shared

[ionic needle]

No

[rich jolt]

Why would you take cc over replacing blessing with chained secondary

[feral verge]

i dont notice the quell speed

i would rather the damage tbh

because you CAN actually rack up decent direct damage with the staff

through a prolonged game

[cobalt atlas]

Unironically true with this, often time I dont see burn killing garbage enough

[feral verge]

look at my ranged damage stat

that is the direct damage dealt by purga staff

not soulblaze tics

[cobalt atlas]

It's alright

[eager mantle]

Have actually been surprised at my monstrosity dmg with purgatus in some of my games

[cobalt atlas]

Chained Secondary on Purgatus isn't super awful

but only the fact that Terrifying barrage doesn't work

which is more of a problem

[feral verge]

terrifying barrage works

it is functional

it's jsut that it's function is useless

because all staves already supress

[rocky raven]

^

[cobalt atlas]

Some melee target isn't suppress from what I saw

Or they can't be suppressed?

[eager mantle]

It should just suppress around the kill target at all ranges

Everyone should be shook from seeing warp shit killing their ally

[rich jolt]

Warp flurry and warp nexus are literally the only good blessing on purg staff

You can make a case for run n gun

A very shaky fragile case but a case no less

[loud sonnet]

Anyone got tips for doing warp battery?

As well as Malleaus Monstranum

[eager mantle]

Uh idk just kill. I got it eventually just playing normally with surge staff. HISTG gives more chances.

[near radish]

"Oh my Chaos Gods, there's nothing left of Barry...!"

[untold verge]

i have a build for every staff and some guns but i always just go back to voidstrike surge anyone else can relate

[eager mantle]

Can't relate. Maybe because I don't have a optimal voidstrike but I'm liking trauma, surge and columnus iag

[ionic needle]

Voidstrike is the one staff I just can't enjoy

[untold verge]

ah, surge voidstrike is not compariable to the normal void

[ionic needle]

Even trauma won me over once I got one with soulblaze and nexus

[untold verge]

this is all you need

[rich jolt]

Which one is voidstrike again

[ionic needle]

The one that shoots evil balls

[rich jolt]

Ah

[untold verge]

it sends two blue bowling balls through a horde of pins

[bright mica]

I wish lol

[bright mica]

the infinite ammo plasma gun

half joking

[rich jolt]

Plasma already has infinite ammo with surv

[ionic needle]

Haha, no. Surv gives like 1 ammo per proc on plasma

[digital narwhal]

You get like 3

Meaning uncharged shots get refunded, and you get a charged shot per 2 procs

[ionic needle]

I've seen 1 and 2, never 3

Maybe my plasma has a shitty ammo stat, haven't played my vet in quite a while

[frail pewter]

Go to vet class, discuss trauma
Go to psy class, discuss plasma

[cold elm]

what should i change on it

[plucky flax]

I would change blessings to uncanny and flesh tearer.

[ionic needle]

the mk

[distant roost]

Leave as is or swap backstab to uncanny

I’d do the former

[cold elm]

thoughts?

[noble copper]

psyker noob here, what do with this for brain burst / venting shriek / purgatus build? thx!

[steep fractal]

Reroll for better perks and blessings

[feral verge]

Bad

You want this on deimos

Uncanny strike and maniac priority picks

[noble copper]

thx

[feral verge]

Good

Only way it could be better if you swapped carapace damage to elite or maniac

Maniac let's you 1 shot trappers and bombers

[plucky flax]

Since you have warp nexus locked better to go blaze trauma.

[feral verge]

Oops, read warp nexus as warp flurry

Rending shockwave and warp flurry pair together

Warp nexus and blazing spirit pair together

Nite, there is no t4 blazing spirit on staff

Only t3

[vale nacelle]

Flak —> Crit

Rending —> Blazing spirit

Wait for melee maelstrom to have the most fun this game has to offer. Trauma by itself carries the entire match.

[next turret]

i know this isnt everyones fsvorite but its mine and it came out pretty good

[visual osprey]

that's pretty decent but with bloodthirsty you really want to just do special attack twice

like special attack a basic enemy, kill them, and then use it on whatever nearby special

I run a slaughterer unstable power illisi because swing fast big damage

[gray jetty]

Love me deimos, would honestly swap blazing spirits into something like slaughterer

[humble bolt]

THE MELEE PSYKER IS REAL

[next turret]

i will i just made my psyker not too long ago so im still begging hadron for blessings

[gray jetty]

Good luck lmao

[fiery portal]

Is there some kind of bug related to Scrier's gaze?
Sometimes it simply refuses to gain stacks for a long time.

[gray jetty]

WDYM

Scriers should be giving a stack every second

[hard hatch]

How does purgatus do with weak spot hits? I’m thinking whether it’s worth taking cruel fortune or not.

[ornate hamlet]

I noticed it not showing stacks in the buff bar sometimes

[scarlet bear]

lol

that one way to say void strike

i consister it condensed warp enegies that on impact expand in a blast

[gray jetty]

Yeah haven't experienced that myself, sorry

[fiery portal]

Oh yeah, I mixed it up with stacks from disrupt destiny

[scarlet bear]

part of me wishes i picked thew savant voice for my psycher not sage XD

[gray jetty]

Oh, that'll do it lmao

[scarlet bear]

but i am stuck with it

[smoky linden]

My psyker called the Emperor a Corpse God today, please don't let the commisars know how heretical my lad is.

[spice wasp]

is the flamethrower the fastest fire rate weapon for the psyker?

[ornate hamlet]

It might be the columnus IAG

[spice wasp]

after looking at it the flamethrower is way lower fire rate than i expected

[hard hatch]

Hey what mod is that that lists the equipment?

[next turret]

its psyker saturday in hersy quickplay nothing but psykers

[obsidian flint]

best perks for duelling sword?

[humble bolt]

Loadout monitor

[ionic needle]

lol, just joined a maelstrom with only psykers

[hard hatch]

Thank you!

[ornate hamlet]

Carapace is quite nice, and I combine it with crit chance to try to squeeze as many crit heavies as I can

[willow hazel]

hopefully everyone ran Perilous Combustion

[ionic needle]

No idea if they did. They all ran staffs so I went with columnus and then they all died before the first checkpoint, I tried to save it but no.

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve had some great mael runs with all psyker

[ionic needle]

All of them had smite, but didn't pull it out to stop the big pack of crushers and maulers, very strange.

[zinc phoenix]

😂 THAT kind of psyker pack lmao

[ionic needle]

Is mostly ranged a new modifier? haven't seen it before

Surge staff completely destroyed it, hahaha

[left dagger]

Carapiece then Flak or Maniac on Dueling sowrd? probably Flak since I got gun or staff against flamers and zerkers

[stone canyon]

These any good for psyker?

[tender terrace]

[rich jolt]

Thats pretty good

To bad about the mobility tho

But warp resistance isnt crucial

And unyielding is decent too

[tender terrace]

i use deimos with purge and shriek, dont even pay attention to warp tbh

[rich jolt]

Lol

Hopefully hadron doesnt brick🙏

[compact thorn]

Epic smite mains on auric maelstorm

[dapper shadow]

How much damage does overheating do to enemies and can it crit 🤔

[hot zephyr]

I just made this today: You use a MarkXIIIg for killing crushers/ogryns and bosses with special + heavy attacks. With this setup you can 1-shot a mutant even in the back with a heavy special, and non-crusher ogryns are 1 shots if you can weakspot/headshot with the special. It pairs well with something that handles other enemies well like a purgatus staff in my opinion.

[ornate hamlet]

the zeeeg

oh shit, that's the weapon I was farming on my vet

man, there's so much shit that I keep forgetting

[flint plover]

Should I change the crit to carapace?

[ornate hamlet]

It will do lots of funnies

[half iron]

woke up with 8 plasteel in my pocket

[tender terrace]

hmm what to do, what to do

slaughterer/unstable? or uncanny is popular these days?

[mint wharf]

What's drump stat on a surge staff?

*dump

[tulip kettle]

warp res

[mint wharf]

Makes sense. TY

[orchid nest]

and charge rate

to a point

[tulip kettle]

charge rate is not a dump stat

but its not essential to be 80

[orchid nest]

it is on surge

as long as it's like 60+

[tulip kettle]

it has very limited returns though its true

precisely

it still needs to be 0+

my six key dopesnt work and i always forget

[orchid nest]

yeah for surge specifically you're probably only missing like 30ms or something

oh yeah for sure

I just assume when people say dump stat they are talking a high rated weapon, I guess I should be more specific

[tulip kettle]

if you take the talent for +30 quell speed i dont think quell is important on any psyker weapon but thats personal choice

and warp res does have some purpose i guess in so far as the peril cost per shot is cheaper, i guess on some staffs it may mean you can shoot one more time before being critical but i havent tested it and seems low impact

[tacit stump]

i think quell speed reduces down time

[tulip kettle]

if you take +30 quell speed talent you will wuell from 100-0 in under 4 seconds

[spice veldt]

same chain timings, and the quelling tick rate is the same regardless of quell speed

quell speed only affects how much peril you quell per tick, not how quickly each tick occurs (250ms)

[tulip kettle]

i cant see the fractional modifier on quell on staffs being significant really, again maybe without that talent it matters more

i also think warp res is important on voidtrike if youre doing nexus and surge

[spice veldt]

quell speed is nice for when you have a significant source of peril generation that is not from your staff

[tulip kettle]

but dump stat if youre doing quell and flurry

[spice veldt]

because warp res only affects peril gen from your staff, whereas quell speed will affect your quelling as long as you're holding your staff

[tacit stump]

i don't use the special attack often by the deimos blade

[tulip kettle]

its good for finishing the crusher you just knocked down

i think it also has a niche use with the 5 weakspot hits to crit talent

if you do the special and hit a weakspot it counts as 4 weakspot hits

also useful for instantly maxing stacks on slaughterer etc

the fact psyker with deimos can consistently 2 hit knockdown crushers but ogryn cant is nutty

[ornate hearth]

Unyielding to maniac and superiority to slaughter. Nice find.

[tacit stump]

it brainfarts the crushers so they fall

[feral verge]

flak to maniac

superiority to uncanny strike

trust me

you dont need slautghterer on deimos

slaughter goes on a dedicated horde clear deimos, which deimos is not

you want uncanny strike to delete armor

you dont need flak damage on deimos, because it will already one shot all flak enemies

deimos wants maniac + unyielding/elite/carapace

for perks

for blessings, deimos wants uncanny strike + executor/unstable power

[tacit stump]

what about deflector?

[eager mantle]

Personal

[feral verge]

deflector is a neat tool, but it is not necessary

[twin zephyr]

Deflector is fine, just different choice

[feral verge]

especially if you are good with dodging

[twin zephyr]

Usually with deimos, you want to buff the damage to hit a couple notable breakpoints, like 1-shotting mutants with the second heavy

[feral verge]

i would only consider running deflector on a build where i use staff 90% of the time, and only pull out sword for emergencies/utility

[twin zephyr]

But deflector is good too, it just comes at the price of some breakpoints

[tawdry pasture]

Psykers..

plain
green onions
sausage

choose now

[feral verge]

sausage

[twin zephyr]

Kielbasa

[tawdry pasture]

ok, thank you

[orchid shadow]

Green Onions

[tacit stump]

wurst

[pale basalt]

Hive mind- does per tick damage of soulfire scale with warp rider when applied or in real time?

[spice veldt]

in real time

[pale basalt]

Ok rub sword, vent, apply full stacks, rub sword, apply full ticks

[ornate hamlet]

Psychological warfare

[feral verge]

Lmfao you actually tested it

🤓

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-slap-kat-slap-slap-cat-cate-gif-7906458944533086715

[spice veldt]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1148002105609691286/1166209240642363412/cat_stupid.gif?ex=6549a7fe&is=653732fe&hm=9b8ddb9fc7ec732c87a322e7fcfa97cc478681201aa4e67b0644b96c29e6a277&

[pale basalt]

I’m having total deja vu because i think i forgot the answer and arcotash answered the same way and some peanut gallery person said the exact thing last time 😂

[lunar hollow]

u destroyed him

[tacit stump]

idk why but somehow psyker has for my taste really good meele weapons with duellist sword mk4 and force sword mk4 deimos

[feral verge]

Excuse me

Peanut gallery

Have you played with arco

He has committed many crimes

He has barreled me many times

[pale basalt]

I think i called him autistic once because he was poo pooimg gunspyking 8 months ago ❤️

[feral verge]

He had his reasons

[long wharf]

8 months ago, being a gun psyker was heresy

now it's officially supported

[restive slate]

How is Scryier Gaze on non guns?

Staves, specifically

[long wharf]

iffy

[placid crypt]

It can have use on crit dependent builds like a rending/blaze trauma or surge voidstrike but always dangerous with peril generation

[steep fractal]

gonna be quelling a lot

[spice veldt]

you fuckin liar

[long wharf]

I dunno, I believe him

[spice veldt]

mankar would be one of the more notorious barrelers if he had josho's psychopathy

[feral verge]

I usually go out of my way to not barrel/burster anyone

[steep estuary]

Are there any particularly good build for the twins on hard mode, or is it just a skill issue? XD

[feral verge]

Then you provoke me

@spice veldt

Then I do what I must

[restive slate]

Only a heretic deals with provokations

Wait, wrong genre

[marsh wharf]

hey uhm

does deflector block sniper rounds

[feral verge]

Nope

[marsh wharf]

ah okay good to now know

[feral verge]

It also does not block bullets when you are reviving someone

[long wharf]

it used to

frankly it still should

[shadow wigeon]

Challenging.
Void works well, Surge blessing or just damage.
Purg has fun builds with Scrier's but a bit memey
I tried scrier's blaze and unsurprisingly isnt super effective (already SB capped most of the time anyway)
I have not bothered trying surge

[lethal lagoon]

Warp charges don't affect Scrier's CD, so a lot of the time there's probably a net DPS loss

Scrier's Gaze melee build is pretty fun though, staby stab.

[shadow wigeon]

On Purg you can get them back very quickly. The CDR of coruse would be nice, but the warp chage loss isn't as big a deal.

But you have to pick your moment to use SG

[restive slate]

I still feel force weapons should block ranged by default but consumes more stamina, and the blessing improves block cost reduction especially ranged

[long wharf]

I completely agree

have since release

[restive slate]

Yea I'm using those for Void, playing around with Disrupt Destiny too

[unreal axle]

finally.. this'll do 💙

[long wharf]

DD needs to be less janky

[lethal lagoon]

When Illy and Deimos first came out, it was bugged and had default deflector. Which suggests that was the original plan

I don't know why they changed it.

But those few weeks were amazing

[tawdry pasture]

Acceptable

[restive slate]

Yea seems Scryier is made for Gunker and melee psyker

[lethal lagoon]

The swords felt so good to use

[shadow wigeon]

i think DD is better on Scrier's Void but I could never really say for sure.

[lethal lagoon]

I think them "fixing" Illy and Deimos was when I quit till patch 13

I was definitely on the side, Force swords were made to be this way

[shadow wigeon]

Def Void as well. It sort of polarizes the strengths and weaknesses of Void even more. But I think it's in still viable.
Icould never find a blessing combo that I loved though.
I think I ended up with Transfer/Surge at some point beig pretty good? it got weird.

Probably tried 100 games of SG Void

[feral verge]

Swap carapace to maniac

Maniac allows mutie one shot

[unreal axle]

no need, purgatus

wait no mutie

[feral verge]

Huh

[unreal axle]

hmm

[shadow wigeon]

If you want to mess with it, Exorcist on Illisi was on OK pairing with SG Void.

[unreal axle]

I usually brain rupture muties

[feral verge]

Wat

That takes a long time

[unreal axle]

obviously only if they're far away :P

[feral verge]

Maniac is priority pick on all force swords

[lethal lagoon]

Psykers generally need anti-mutie capabilties on melee cause the other methods we have are mid

[feral verge]

And most weapons in the game

[shadow wigeon]

I mean, psyker melee is pretty good v muties... yes we kill disgusting muties well

[lethal lagoon]

I wouldn't say "most weapons", not even close really

[restive slate]

Been a long time since I brainbursted an enemy

[feral verge]

Not running maniac is a mistake

[feral verge]

Wat

[lethal lagoon]

Yes, that's what I'm saying.

[unreal axle]

I haven't had any trouble with them, I do a quick stab and then a heavy stab and that deals with muties just fine

[shadow wigeon]

Oh I get you

[feral verge]

Bruh most weapons prioritize maniac and flak perks

[lethal lagoon]

I play all 4 classes, and that's a straight no

[feral verge]

This is well known

[lethal lagoon]

If you mean most psyker melee weapons, sure

[feral verge]

If I were to post in zealot chat a random weapon

[lethal lagoon]

Flak yes, btw.

[feral verge]

What perks do I want on this

[potent zenith]

omnisiah... why....

[feral verge]

75% of the time the 'pros's are gonna say flakiak

[lethal lagoon]

And I didn't say a word about flak

You randomly put that in when I said maniac isn't most weapons

[feral verge]

Maniac is on most weapons

[shadow wigeon]

hmmm
Unstable with 80 warp res is unfortunate

[potent zenith]

well, time to eat it

rip

[feral verge]

Most specials are maniac

Special combos are what end games usually

Most weapons optimally run maniac

[steep fractal]

poxbursters appearing in the midst of my team without beeping once are what end MY games usually

[potent zenith]

2nd shot. it's..... ok-ish....

[restive slate]

Silent poxbursters exploding behind doors

[restive slate]

Base stats are nice

[potent zenith]

i can remove exocist with deflector

what should i swap out last?

[steep fractal]

unyielding for maniac

or slaughterer for uncanny

[shadow wigeon]

I think I might replace Slaughterer first... depends on you play style though.

Slaughterer on Deimos can be very low value if you dont do any horde clear.

[steep fractal]

i run uncanny and deflect and do just fine but slaughterer does feel real nice to have

theres almost always a few mooks between you and whatever you actually want to melee

and if not you're probably not in a chaotic enough situation that it really matters

[shadow wigeon]

Yeah but depending on what staff you're running, melee might not be the choice to get there is the issue.
If you like melee, though, Slaughter stacks are fun on Deimos

[potent zenith]

im running eq iv

[feral verge]

no reason to run slaughterer with deimos

[potent zenith]

so swap slaughter out for uncanny?

[feral verge]

you want uncanny + executor/unstable power

uncanny and maniac are priority

[potent zenith]

i already swapped one out for deflector

rip...

so unyielding for maniac?

[feral verge]

on this, i would run uncanny + slaughterer, unyielding + maniac

[steep fractal]

depends how bad you want deflector

[feral verge]

if you are dead certain about running deflector

then swap slaughterer for uncanny

uncanny should always be taken, unless attempting a funny build

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-slap-kat-slap-slap-cat-cate-gif-7906458944533086715

[potent zenith]

i uh.. dont have uncanny

fk

[ornate hamlet]

me when people don't remove the canny from their strikes

[feral verge]

what does the text say in your nerd minthara avatar

[feral verge]

lmao

i cannot speak spanish, but i know that is full of swears

ty

[ornate hamlet]

[potent zenith]

welp, time to hop back onto my vet and farm the shit out of plasteel

[feral verge]

god speed soldier

[ornate hamlet]

Be a man and farm on psyker

[marsh wharf]

yall what in your opinion would be better for DPS brain burst of surge force

[feral verge]

brain burst is slow

surge would be faster

[eager token]

melk be trollin

[gaunt night]

Guys i got this purg staff build from a user here 🙂 and i just wanted to ask if someone would change anything

never played with purg so far, but i just got a decent staff and wanna try out

[lethal lagoon]

Wildfire is super mid. 6 warp charges would be better.

I personally find Purg's peril gen to be pretty low, so I just grab the 30% toughness on warp charge node instead, but that's just personal preference.

[eager token]

is this close enough to a god roll

[gaunt night]

Yeah thats what i thought, heard many ppl saying wildfire is meh

[lethal lagoon]

If it passed 4 stacks from one mob to another mob it'd be great, but what it actually does is pass 1 stack to multiple mobs

[lethal lagoon]

demi-god roll, have a bunch of great things but they are all a tier lower.

Well other than terrible barrage of course, but I'm assuming you are changing that.

[eager token]

yeah is the crit one worth using

[gaunt night]

Is it worth changing anything for 1 of the 2 brain burst abilities ?

[eager token]

what perk would i swap

[lethal lagoon]

I would personally do 4% crit to Flak, because honestly psyker has enough crit plus warp nexus that 4% isn't really impactful.
I think the top combo is Flak 5% crit though.

[gaunt night]

@lethal lagoon Does Purg Crit ? Or why does the build have mettle and perfect timing ? Or is it just for brainburst

[lethal lagoon]

Purg crits yes.

Crits add two stacks of burn too

[gaunt night]

Oh damn didnt know that

🙂

[lethal lagoon]

Mettle goes Brrr on purg

[gaunt night]

thanks ❤️

[lethal lagoon]

Also brainburst does not crit, so I'm not sure what you mean by that

[gaunt night]

I have no clue. i just thought it might can crit haha

[eager token]

i mean i wouldn't sweat 1% critchance if thats an optimal perk

[lethal lagoon]

Are you confusing crits and weakspots? Ah makes sense

[gaunt night]

im still only playin for a month and copied asianrobots builds from youtube

[lethal lagoon]

Flak, maniac and crit are your main choices for purg

Youtube builds.... hmm

[eager token]

[gaunt night]

but since a lil while im trying to get my own knowledge up by asking stuff here

[left dagger]

completely bricked

[lethal lagoon]

But keep in mind, crit and maniac are the secondaries, flak is the main

More bricked than me watching tom and jerry.

I actually think literally everything is bad on that lmao

[cosmic sigil]

Speedload to dumdum and infested to flak then

[harsh urchin]

5% crit is roughly 4% faster dot application speed

[gaunt night]

what perk should i change and what blessing should i get to 4? I think nexus

[eager token]

wtf we got the same staff

[harsh urchin]

it's not really worth it because everything will die anyways

[lethal lagoon]

Speedload is probably still better than terrible barrage lmao

[harsh urchin]

and bosses dont care cuz there's a cap

[lethal lagoon]

5% crit on top of all the other crit though?

[gaunt night]

i thought the same when i saw yours a lil earlier haha

[harsh urchin]

i'm pretty convinced it's better to go flak/unyield or whatever

than 5% crit

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I would do flak maniac on that staff

[eager token]

nexus and flurry?

[harsh urchin]

ye you'll go from like 40% crit to 45% crit, ending at around 4% faster dot application

[lethal lagoon]

Ah

[harsh urchin]

maniac is pointless cuz it'll really work on ragers

kills too slowly on specials for it to be worth a perk

doesn't do damage to mutants

and it'll kill flamers/trappers so slowly that your teammates prob would've killed it alr

[jovial zodiac]

is there an unstable power t4 ??

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, you are looking at a different staff

[jovial zodiac]

please help

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[jovial zodiac]

yes?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes?

[gaunt night]

xD

[lethal lagoon]

Right?

[gaunt night]

Left?

[lethal lagoon]

14, 16, 18, 20

Yeah t4

[gaunt night]

ehm 🙂 another try for me to ask for my staff.

what perk should i change and what blessing shall i try to go for t4 ?

i think warp nexus t4

and flak armour instead of ranged damage

[lethal lagoon]

Personally, I would treat that as a free perk staff where I can play around with perks

Esp since both your perks are unoptimal, but both your blessings are optimal, just tier 3

[harsh urchin]

i think unyield is optimal lol

[feral verge]

unyielding isnt the worst

[lethal lagoon]

It isn't the worst, but is it worth locking in just to upgrade a blessing to tier 4?

I don't think so 🤷‍♂️

[feral verge]

warp flurry 3 to warp flurry 4 aint gonna be felt

[gaunt night]

exactly what i thought

[feral verge]

i prefer flak and maniac on my purga

[harsh urchin]

neither is the nexus crit tbh

[gaunt night]

hmm 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

So take the free perk choices

[gaunt night]

Well haha

[lethal lagoon]

You never know how future patches will fuck you

[gaunt night]

haha

i hope they ll at least use lube then

Okay anything i need 2 know before using purg for the 1st time ? I think just use left click spam to stagger enemies

[feral verge]

set a group of enemies on fire with rmb

a gust or two

then use ultimate on them

it will apply extra burn stacks, over the burn stack cap of 16

[gaunt night]

You mean venting shriek ?