psyker-class

[static needle]

when ur in a pickle or need to kill gunners while u are suppressed like hell

assail

[tulip kettle]

but 1 shotting gunners on damn sounds crazy with 10 instant casts

[static needle]

it locks on and isnt afffected by stun or suppression

ye but they are slower so keep that in mind

[thick valley]

This is a good point

[tulip kettle]

yeah with a deflector force sword sounds like it could be good

thanks i may reconsider my "assail is hot trash" stance

[static needle]

you will if you use it

its kind of imperative to run if you want to be optimal as a gunpsyker

[tulip kettle]

i used it when i was first levelling psyker

[static needle]

if helps you save a lot of ammo

and u can use your melee for carapace enemies

[tulip kettle]

but that was on lower difficulties and it just felt OP

[static needle]

or actually, just crushers

[tulip kettle]

yeah i was thinking run it with a deimos

[static needle]

u can shoot flak maulers in body for big dmg with gun

[tulip kettle]

did you know you can knock down crushers in 2 hits with deimos?

[static needle]

yup hehe its funny

[tulip kettle]

actually dumb

[static needle]

idk kinda makes sense since deimos is objectively worse than DS4 in every other way

good for it to have a leg up

on crushers at least

[tulip kettle]

theres also a duelling sword that lets you 1-2 combo the flak ragers with no perks or blessings

cant remember which one

[static needle]

mk 4, mk 4 and mk 4

[tulip kettle]

why the mk 4 over the 5?

doesnt the 4 have those overheads? which suck?

[static needle]

thats 5

for has only stabby stab

[tulip kettle]

ahhh fair then yeah

[static needle]

and apparently does 40% more damage than the other DS mks

on heavies

[neat pecan]

To be specific I use right click on boss while teammate kites it

[spice veldt]

mk4 moment

[static needle]

Classic Fatshark balancing

Mk V has such cool animations too 😭

[tulip kettle]

is it the swishier one?

its a while since i used them

i like the one that comboes L1-H2 against armour

looks like youre casting a spell

[harsh urchin]

I'd suggest you learn to melee bosses

[tulip kettle]

very class appropriate

[harsh urchin]

iirc the boss damage output of most staves is pretty underwhelming

[wild crescent]

Voidstrike vs Traumaforce, whats the diff?

[harsh urchin]

bar a few

[tulip kettle]

voidstrike shoots bowliong balls

trauma makes an exploding circle on the ground

trauma is worse IMO because it throws everything around

[static needle]

thats exactly why it fucking rules

[tulip kettle]

makes it hard for your team to actually kill stuff when its all over the floor on half hp

its good cc

but we have smite for that

[static needle]

skill issue

[woven gate]

stuff on the ground is stuff not killing you

[tulip kettle]

whereas void with warp flurry and quell on weakspot

is an ABSOLUTE cannon

[static needle]

and is stuff you have a free reign to kill

[tulip kettle]

yeak kind of

but trauma just doesnt kill stuff fast

[woven gate]

also knocking hordes off edges

[tulip kettle]

why throw it on the ground on half hp

when you can just instazap it

[woven gate]

it stuns bulwarks good

[tulip kettle]

immediately filling your toughness and quelling all your peril

[static needle]

you are seriously underestimating the damage potential of the trauma. If you run blaze + nexus you will easily be getting the highest amount of dps for the least amount of work. This is true

Especially if you run perilous combustion with it

[tulip kettle]

yeah but your team will also hate it and it makes it a visual slog

when again you could just run voidstrike

[static needle]

idk man my friends love it when I nuke the entire map

[tulip kettle]

and delete everything

[static needle]

again

trauma fuggin deletes

with blaze

[tulip kettle]

voidstrike seems to kill everything much faster

[static needle]

try it

[static needle]

it does slightly faster but it does so in a far more risky manner most of the time and is generally more situational compared to trauma which can do literally everything

People regularly reach 800k+ damage using blaze nexus trauma

[tulip kettle]

the only better thing about trauma is shooting it at your feet to autowin in situations you should otherwise lose, IMO

i think its purely a tastes thing

speaking of which

[static needle]

?

[tulip kettle]

i survived a solo situation i never should have thanks to catachan 4 and 2 + 3 stam curios on my zealot yesterday

just by spamming parry into the mass on my screen until everything was dead

[static needle]

if you survived it then you should have

[outer ocean]

purgatus is more easymode than trauma

[static needle]

true

[outer ocean]

LMB staggers everything

[tulip kettle]

yeah ive heard you can do meme builds with run and gun on purgatus

not tried it myself

[static needle]

i kinda put my limit on trauma, purgatus is more braindead to use than smite xD

[steep estuary]

I'm due to change things up and try something new tbh. Assail + Voidstrike + Deimos sword is feeling a touch stale

[tulip kettle]

is there any use to the surge blessing on trauma staff?

[ornate hearth]

Hey all, I've been working on an assail build with a voidstrike staff and illisi.

It does a really good job of tanking due to all the regen and extra toughness. I've had success with it in Damnation, and I am interested in feedback if possible.

[lethal lagoon]

I'd grab Perilous Combustion instead of battle meditation

[hearty oak]

Dont really need EP for assail so you could do warp siphon instead

[lethal lagoon]

EP makes a pretty huge impact on assail

That would also change up his gameplay style quite a bit

[hearty oak]

For assail
nvm then

[lethal lagoon]

Assail feels pretty bad without EP 🤷‍♂️

At least to me

[hearty oak]

It feels like a horde clear to me and thats how its always been.

[quartz mesa]

Not sure if this is the right place at all, but does anyone have voice clips of a character with that rebreather from the giulius thrice blessed set? Been trying to find one for ages

[lethal lagoon]

It's pretty mid at horde clear without EP, plus it can't handle shotgunner and gunner groups as well.

Does depend on difficulty, mostly speaking from auric t5/mael's perspective.

[hearty oak]

I liked it for my gunker. Handles the trash that i needed clear. some specials die in the process but its still really strong

[ornate hearth]

I did use WS a bit, but it's a lot of tax to get to the good nodes at the bottom. I lost out on a lot of toughness regeneration nodes IIRC getting down there. I felt the CD reduction to shield hasn't been needed due to horde clear with illisi + assail

[ornate hearth]

This is a good suggestion. I ran it a few games, but I didn't really feel like I noticed an impact with it in regular Damnation. Auric stuff it becomes incredibly strong, but I think you make a good suggestion. 2 extra +15 toughness nodes is likely health overkill anyways.

[lethal lagoon]

PC is better the tougher things are. So like sometimes it won't matter, but it'll matter when it matters.

[ornate hearth]

"It'll matter when it matters" makes absolute sense with that ability lol

[shadow wigeon]

When you get 6 packs of shotgunners, ragers, whatever... PC just sort of smokes em. It does less on lower difficulties.

[tall mango]

please my beloved roll well

[ornate hearth]

I noticed EP on elite kill right away after switching to it. Maybe I just didn't realize how much it was helping me refresh my shards when mowing through a large pack.

It's going back in the build!

[quartz mesa]

May hadron have mercy

[tall mango]

i love the crafting system i love the crafting system i love the crafting system

[ornate hearth]

Terrifying barrage to WN (the crit one?) And sprint to crit chance or flack and it'll slap.

[outer ocean]

at least you got blazing and carapace

workable

[tall mango]

warp nexus is the crit one yeah

[outer ocean]

yes

[ornate hearth]

That staff is nearly identical to one of mine and it's fantastic. I like the combination more than the charge rate because everything becomes staggered and dies.

I'm also pretty sure SB does more damage due to carapace also.

[tall mango]

ive just been using a purg build lately, very fun

[spice veldt]

perks on the currently held weapon apply to DoTs yeah, but in this case you have no source of rending, you will not see a great gain to soulblaze's pititul 10% damage to carapace

[ornate hearth]

TIL. Thanks!

[potent zenith]

from melk today. worth it or pass?

[steep estuary]

Ehhhh not bad, but I'd pass personally

[potent zenith]

thx

[mossy surge]

At least it knocks em down for a quick ds4 poking

[spice veldt]

death

[wild crescent]

psykers be like

[ripe yacht]

Does the surge staff still benefit from the Surge perks? Not EP.

[strong gulch]

If you mean smite modifiers benefiting the surge staff, no. Neither smite nor EP benefits surge staff now.

[potent zenith]

gonna use this as a 2nd staff for cc

regarding suppression

but wut would i replace?

cara and infested with flak and maniac?

[mossy surge]

Cars to flak, and teffifrying to what's its face blessing

Terrifying barrage does nothing

[potent zenith]

really? doesnt it help suppress enemies?

[mossy surge]

Not at all

It's not working

[potent zenith]

wow

ok nvm then. im sticking to my current staff, lel

[mossy surge]

The suppression that you feel is normal suppression

[potent zenith]

which is this

[mossy surge]

Nah

Go use the newer one

The burn stats is way better

And cloud radius

[potent zenith]

i suppose

[mossy surge]

Longer reach = more kills

[potent zenith]

what would i replace tb for?

[mossy surge]

I can't remember the blessings names

Can someone help out here?

[potent zenith]

this is my other one

but it already been reworked

and was before i learned of "meta"

[potent zenith]

what does the blessing do?

actually

[mossy surge]

Oh wow

It's only five blessings

Get warp nexus

[potent zenith]

kk

[mossy surge]

Plus the infested perk goes well with walkers

Since that's the time you use the flamer anyways

On the horde that is

[potent zenith]

should i eat this to get warp flurry 4?

[mossy surge]

I dont recommend it, since it's rare to get a good staff like that

[potent zenith]

kk

[mossy surge]

Can be good in special conditions rounds

Like hunting ground and such

[potent zenith]

tru

and the added crit chance can help with sb

[mossy surge]

So gl with the hunt for warp nexus t4

Don't regret melting good stat weapons like me

[lethal lagoon]

We were making meme builds yesterday, for "Worst Psyker build". I feel like you could slot this in

[safe merlin]

Does Blazing spirit only go up to 3?

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, blazing spirit on void and trauma only goes up to 3

For force swords it's up to 4

Quite a number of people have blown extensive resources trying to get blazing spirit 4 on Trauma when it didn't actually exist. It's rough.

[spice wasp]

https://tenor.com/view/b99-captainholt-holt-raymondholt-pain-gif-8793717

[mossy surge]

Just go on the mission with the control room last event and push them off from the window

[spice wasp]

that's the exact mission i got this on 😭

told the randos in the lobby but one of them was too trigger happy to leave me much to push

[mossy surge]

Try a LFG if you feel that you need the penance

Else let it come naturally

[tulip kettle]

thats the OINLY thing the dmg on shriek talent is good for

that one penance

[spice wasp]

i did some googlin and Chasm Logistratum has an easy spot for this penance
i'm boutta queue that mission up in a minute to give it a go

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, smite push might work for this

the pipe on hab dreyko was where I got it

After trying and failing to use the smelter end area for this

[tulip kettle]

with damage on shriek you can do it almost anywhere

[mossy surge]

What are we looking at here?
A meme or contemplation of buying it?

[safe merlin]

re bless Blazing spirit?

[mossy surge]

If you want to keep rending, switch CRIT perk to cara/flak or swap rending to blaze

[lethal lagoon]

Rending to blaze and it's a solid blaze trauma

You might also consider switching the 5% crit to flak even if you go blaz, just depends on your playstyle. Psyker has a lot of crit options + warp nexus, 5% crit perk just isn't too impactful.

[mossy surge]

Do remember that rending shockwave helps the team do DMG to armoured

[safe merlin]

whats the soul blaze trama skill tree look like?

[lethal lagoon]

Helping your team.... 🤮

What blitz you wanna run?

[tulip kettle]

if some psyker is gonna grief the game by throwing everything around and not killing it

[spice wasp]

atlas is so excited about helping their team they're blowing shrek

<3

[mossy surge]

You help them by killing

[tulip kettle]

they better at least make it brittle

[mossy surge]

Good ol' warp charges

[tulip kettle]

do you think focussed channeling is needed on a purgatus that already has WN or you think theres a better second blessing?

[mossy surge]

Purga has 5 blessings

[lethal lagoon]

NGL, using trauma without healthbars, kind of bad manners.

[mossy surge]

WN and WF are the only thing that buffs

[tulip kettle]

yeah i think nexus is must have on purg

and TB does nothing

[lethal lagoon]

Nexus and flurry are basically the only two options

[bitter galleon]

Is this one still possible to do?
The olde cooldown reduction talent is gonezo

[mossy surge]

Focus is just eh

[tulip kettle]

so flurry is good but focussed can be good too right?

[lethal lagoon]

There's two cooldown talents now?

[tulip kettle]

i did it the other day

[lethal lagoon]

Easier than ever

[tulip kettle]

do it with EP

3 EP charges and just delete a group of shotgunners or whatever

i dont find i get staggered often with purg as it staggers so well itself

but i feel like flurry wont really do much either

so you saidtheres 5 choices, whats the last one?

[lethal lagoon]

Run n gun, terrible barrage, The buggy interrupt one.

[tulip kettle]

ah so run n gun is the other choice

is it useful though?

[lethal lagoon]

There's pretty much no reason to use anything other than flurry/nexus.

[mossy surge]

Well

[lethal lagoon]

I heard a claim run-n-gun increases base damage, but I think I was getting one-guyed.

[mossy surge]

Not really

Since most just hold right click

[safe merlin]

Is it worth it?

[tulip kettle]

i like to spam left click on stuff when im moving fast

[lethal lagoon]

I mean the stats are good, but that's not a very useful gun on psyker

[tulip kettle]

on vet that would be a god roll

[mossy surge]

sad list

[lethal lagoon]

Terrifying barrage would be amazing on purg if it actually did exactly what the tooltip said

Sadly it's just terrible barrage

[tulip kettle]

so i mean i already spam left click when im moving quickly to relocate

[mossy surge]

Which melee do you use?

[tulip kettle]

is it really worth spending a blessing so it doesnt interrupt my sprint for 0.1 sec?

deimos with purg

[mossy surge]

You get 5 dodges on Deimos, so you can use it to relocate

[tulip kettle]

exactly

i dont find its a problem moving and firing when i need as it is

[mossy surge]

But have you tried gunker?

[tulip kettle]

i have a build for it but havent found a gun i like for it

[mossy surge]

Columnus with dumdum + flak

That's all you need

[tulip kettle]

but how do you deal with carapce and stuff?

[mossy surge]

Deimos

Or ds4

[hasty breach]

that works

[tulip kettle]

so just shoot the trash with the columnus then clean up elites with the deimos

why would it be beter or more efficient than a purg build in that case?

[mossy surge]

It does have good boss DMG

[tulip kettle]

just, different?

[mossy surge]

Assail

The 5 non warp kills + assail

Just kills horde

Quick swap between stacks

Also you get to shoot alot

[tulip kettle]

okay sounds good

i got a 380 god roll columnus - on my zealot 🥲

[mossy surge]

#psyker-class message

And you can see the DMG just under the talent screenshots

[mossy surge]

Linked the wrong one, here is the gunker
#psyker-class message

[tulip kettle]

i am jealous of that deimos.

[mossy surge]

As they say

Making a alt character boost ya luck

It's annoying af

[tulip kettle]

does it 1 shot mutants?

[mossy surge]

Oh yea

[tulip kettle]

and by 1 shot, the light - heavy 1-2 is acceptable

[mossy surge]

The heavy stab one shots

[tulip kettle]

yeah mine right now withj the heavy stab

leaves it at 39 hp

im malding

[mossy surge]

Light is like 2k DMG on headshot

Heavy stab kills without slaugther stacks

[tulip kettle]

yeah you can 1-2 it as you dode and both will hit the weakspot so its not like, a requirement

but yeah precisely

with 1 stack it dies

[mossy surge]

Just l1 nothing and line up heavy

[tulip kettle]

without any stacks it leaves 39 hp

[mossy surge]

I think it does one shot on 5 stack

I can't remember

Never really paid attention to light stab

For mutants

[tulip kettle]

as you say with a good enough roll it will 1 shot without the lioght stab connecting

so there is no need to

but they can all do it i think with the 1-2

[mossy surge]

I usually shoot the mutants, since it's a gunker only alt

The trauma staff was the main psyker build

Scriers does alot of DMG lifting

Just need to learn to keeping an eye on peril while quick swapping

[rotund fable]

in brunts for 18k dockets, good staff or bad? (I've never used trauma before)

[mossy surge]

Blast Abit small

Quell or resistance are the dump stats on trauma

[mossy surge]

Ignore the unyielding, it's just my own dumb preference

[primal plume]

Imagine taking damage

[scarlet bear]

is seer gaze even useful?

[gray jetty]

Scrier's gaze? Shits amazing

[scarlet bear]

what you you suggest i use with it

like i imgine a gun

[gray jetty]

Gunker

[scarlet bear]

pardon?

[gray jetty]

Gun psyker

[scarlet bear]

ah ok

what gun

[gray jetty]

Up to you

[scarlet bear]

like i tried rifle

[gray jetty]

Revolver, colomnus, laspistols

[hollow pine]

voidstrike needs to be a homing missile type weapon

woukd be fuyckin badass

[gray jetty]

Voidstrike is dumb enough, it does not need more

[hollow pine]

you are afraid

[gray jetty]

I am afraid

[hollow pine]

jej

[gray jetty]

I've seen what assail does, i dont need bowling balls doing it too

[scarlet bear]

the warp leads to many abilities that many deem unatrual

[hollow pine]

or what of a blackhole void gernade

or psykers could infuse warp into a gernade at the cost of gernerating 30% peril immediately

for the other classes

[umbral helm]

I've said before that a lot is theoretically possible, with warp as a concept. it's just translating those theories into something physical, inside the game. that also works in respect to game balance and whatnot

[hollow pine]

best bomber throw ive seen

[dapper shadow]

I'm interested to know the code behind the bomber throws

beyond just 'throw it where you were at'

[gray jetty]

Throw to the nearest open floor area near you yeah

[eager token]

are tehse even good on psyker

melk lmao

[gray jetty]

No, recons are dogshit in general

[eager token]

shame, seems like good roll at least

[gray jetty]

Like its bad on vet, think howmuch worse itd be on psyker

If you got the melk bucks, take it

They'll buff it

Eventually

[umbral badge]

just realised we have not had a nerf for a while ... im getting anxious ... i hope they wont forget us. i can endure more suffering and realisation of how fast everyone else kills compared to me, i really hope for a bit more dev attention and hit me with my monthly psyker nerf fix that i so desperately need. i thank the wise development gods to remove the cannon from the idea of glass cannon and provide me with the challenge to just be glass.

or maybe more ragers is the solution.

[potent echo]

Only one way to not get nerfed

We must hide our secrets

[gray jetty]

Lol, i think everyone at this point know psyker is fucking busted

[umbral badge]

but i need the nerfs as the masochistic silly psyker that i am - i can not have entertainment without suff... i mean challenge...

[potent echo]

Trauma/purg/surge/void too weak please buff 😭😭

[umbral badge]

no no no buff you dont get it...

[gray jetty]

Trauma should cover the enitre map

[umbral badge]

the event boss fight really hit the spot for me ... i feel almost totally useless in the hardmode ... enemies from all sides in addition the lovely ragers sprinkled in between in multiple numbers and snipers too - the pain is euphoric. blessed be slaanesh.

it would not have been as much fun if i was not as squishy as i am as psyker.

thank you so much fatshark - you know just what i need to enjoy the game - darktide is amazing now. better then ever

[eager token]

can soulblaze ticks crit?

[gray jetty]

Afaik, no

Unless there's some wonky interaction with melee blessings that I dont know of

[umbral badge]

i think you add more soulblaze on purgatus if it crits? can somebody confirm or correct me on that please?

[eager token]

also how does surge staff interact with weak spots?

[umbral badge]

not sure if it can hit weakspots the damage is so low anyway on the primary

at least i was never able to see a difference

[eager token]

hm

[umbral badge]

would be cool if the purgatus just had the standart staff attack.

[hoary badge]

You gain double the stacks for each crit proc, yes

Purg lmb is a really good stagger/suppression tool, range doesn't matter as much with psyker's blitz options on the table.

[umbral badge]

all staffs stagger with the primary

i'd rather take the more reliable basic staff attack honestly

[hoary badge]

Primary does jack against elites and above

Default that is

[umbral badge]

depends - i prefer it. have taken out reapers from afar supressing them and supressing gunners from range. its more useful to me.

and i can take out snipers with it too.

its overall more useful

[hoary badge]

You can have your preferences but purg lmb is not a bad tool. I'd rather each staff have a unique spin to their primaries than have em all standardized if anything

Again, psyker has no issues with snipers with their blitzes

[umbral badge]

aw now you speak my language sibling 🙂 it can not be allowed to be more effective as a tool for us - just not bad is perfectly fine 🙂

[hoary badge]

Surge's channel used to be able to do weakpoint damage for a very brief period in history

[umbral badge]

yeah i feel happy with psyker as it is now 🙂 it is pleasant to recognise my superiors and watch them kill everything in a better way and faster too. that way i can have time to appreciate them more while i humbly praise them for allowing me to go with them on missions and provide exclusively crowd control and the occasional kill if they allow it.

[hoary badge]

But it was rng since it picked a body part at random and as a result made it overall worse due to varying armor and limb modifiers so they reverted it

[visual osprey]

after numerous sessions of trial and error, I can safely say as a psyker main that more than 2 psykers in one lobby is too much

often results in a loss

[hoary badge]

Right now you can only proc it with the projectile attacks

[umbral badge]

even 2 psykers requires both to be knowing what they are doing or they will end up causing the loss of the group due to the many random factors that can just outright down us.

[visual osprey]

not being able to manage your own peril is pure skill issue tbh

I based my entire primary psyker build around peril management

[umbral badge]

lol i hardly explode anymore not talking about that ^^

[visual osprey]

also, DH aggro radius is way too fucking big

[wide maple]

lads, is this new voidstrike worth rolling on?

[visual osprey]

do you have the one on the left

[wide maple]

yes

[visual osprey]

then no

[umbral badge]

i want more ragers in missions ... sometimes it just feels to easy with smite - where is the challenge when things work as you expect them to work... honestly i have a hard time sometimes when i get bored and things run so smooth because everyone knows what they are doing. in the back of my head something tells me there is pleasure to be had, but then i quickly just shake it off and hope for more pain and random failure.

[wide maple]

61 charge rate is pain tho

[visual osprey]

ragers are fucking hilariously easy now

[umbral badge]

yeah totally 🙂 even when they are close like 3 of them or 4 running around the corner

too easy cant have that ^^

[wide maple]

1 shotting them or stunning them with like 30 different things, ez pz, boring

[hoary badge]

The one on the right is pretty good base, voidstrike doesn't benefit from blast radius too much unless you're building blaze void I guess

[wide maple]

Exploiting crit deletion

[umbral badge]

oh you got to teach me that @wide maple how you do that while they are in a horde and gunners shoot at you from afar. 🙂 you are my new hero

[hoary badge]

And charge rate is abysmal on the void so it's a priority stat

[umbral badge]

probably far better then me lowly newbe

[wide maple]

wdym? 1 shotting them or stunning them?

[umbral badge]

both please ^^

i want to learn it all from you

[wide maple]

Crit surge voidstrike on a meme crit build, and chainswords for some reason are stunning them on crits

im not sure if thats a bug with zealot tho

[umbral badge]

your surge must be amazing - you one shot them on a crit? wow

[hoary badge]

For one purg stunlocks them by just spamming lmb

[umbral badge]

even in a horde? my surge staff clearly sucks

well i probably suck overall then 🙂 but i love the challenge a lot

thank you guys

[wide maple]

does it put them into a weird animation?

[hoary badge]

The chest jiggle?

[wide maple]

yeah

[hoary badge]

Pretty sure that's just for shock and latching melees

[umbral badge]

so i am right i think we need another nerf - i wonder when it will finally happen.

[wide maple]

nah, its been doing it with just crits on my zealots chainsword

as long as they arent in an attack animation both varieties of rager and maulers are getting stunned like that

And I'm not exactly sure whats causing that interaction

[hoary badge]

If you have a force sword the push attack instantly sweeps ragers off ther feet as well

Has a 10m range to it

[umbral badge]

singular - rager. not ragers, but the force push is nice indeed

but what am i thinking even trying to correct my superiors. please accept my apologies. since i have difficulties it means i suck and you are amazing

[hoary badge]

It still useful to break apart packs

[umbral badge]

i am thinking the way you guys speak humbly you must be even better handling everything as psyker in missions then you let on in the chat here. wow amazing

[vital belfry]

What blessings are good for the voidstrike staff?

[wide maple]

Surge and warp nexus are the ones i use

[echo frigate]

Surge and warp flurry

Warp nexus is also solid

[hexed geyser]

How much rating for a +3 stam curio guaranteed?

[echo frigate]

BUT

[umbral badge]

either blazing spirit or surge and always warp nexus @vital belfry

[hoary badge]

I use Surge and Transfer Peril myself

[echo frigate]

Flurry is like slightly more damage in the long run I think

It comes down to giga psyker math

[wide maple]

Does transfer peril proc the quell talents?

[hoary badge]

I believe so

It's just nice qol and occasionally a peril explosion save

[wide maple]

I mean you can go 100 to 0 with a well placed charge into a horde

[strong gulch]

Over 75. The +3 stamina curios with a 75 base rating have been bugged forever. No clue if or when it'll be fixed.

[umbral badge]

that explains why after months i still dont have one i want. well ... actually 3/4 of a year by now ... but i enjoy the itemisation as much as i love the challenge in missions.

[steep estuary]

Do the +3 stam curios actually give the correct stamina, or is it bugged in a do not use way?

[wide maple]

Fuck you brunt

[spiral minnow]

what are differences between staves?

[wide maple]

mostly the secondary

Voidstrike does a piercing bolt, trauma does the ground circle explosion, surge does lightning

purgatus is the odd man out with all flamethrower all the time

[spiral minnow]

flamethrower sounds nice .) i am jsut at 14 level, but i dont use staves bcs mainly i am using shards which ocupy my peril

[steep estuary]

Voidstrike is nice for enemies in a line and at a distance. Trauma is great for clusters, but I felt it didn't reach out far enough. Might have just been the ones I had at the time, I'll have to give trauma staves a try again

[wide maple]

Voidstrike imo is the best right now for straight up clearing hordes and specials

[steep estuary]

Isn't purgatus good with its secondary for hordes?

Dunno I kinda picked up voidstrike and stuck with it

[wide maple]

I guess, but I personally loathe flamethrower type weapons

In every game they are either beams of deletion or feel like pissing on the enemy

[steep estuary]

Yeah its hard to do flamethrowers

[wide maple]

speaking of voidstrike, behold how hadron bricked this one

[steep estuary]

Mmmmmfgh that looks pretty good

[wide maple]

Bad perks and blessings

[steep estuary]

Unfortunately. Warp flurry isnt the worst at least

[wide maple]

yeah, but my build relies on crit so not having warp nexus is cringe

[steep estuary]

Ohhhh

[lethal lagoon]

75 blessing +3 stamina curios are bugged.

76+ and 74- are fine

[wide maple]

this is the one I'm currently using for comparison

[steep estuary]

I have yet to see a surge blessing myself

[wide maple]

its really really good

[steep estuary]

It sounds good, but I'm not specced towards crits atm

[lethal lagoon]

Make a second psyker for double melk rolls

It'll definitely work

[steep estuary]

I apologize but I'm not well versed in these matters. What do you mean by 76+ and 74-?

[lethal lagoon]

As in the base rating on the curio

[steep estuary]

Ohhh okay gotcha

[lethal lagoon]

75 base rating stamina curios are bugged and have been for a looooooong time

76+ base rating +3 staminas work fine though

[steep estuary]

Shoot, I just got a +3 stamina the other day. I'll have to check >_>

Haven't used it yet though

[spiral minnow]

what talents u pick when playing staves?

[lethal lagoon]

What talents do you pick when using 4 vastly different weapons? I aint got an answer for ya buddy.

[spiral minnow]

and does reduced peril perks works for everything even staves?

[lethal lagoon]

Peril reduction nodes hit everything yes

including KD

[spiral minnow]

i meant generally, hard to get into game when i knwo nothing xD

[steep estuary]

Easy to get into intuitively, feels like anything below malice difficulty you can try almost anything lol

[lethal lagoon]

What level? Honestly, half the fun is playing around with builds. But I can help ya.

Keep in mind, unlike other weapons, non-high level staves feel kind of bad because they have ratings that affect their charge speed and peril cost

[spiral minnow]

so far 14, and dint touched staves yet bcs i used smited and shards and wanted gun so my peril can cooldown, probably harder with staff

[lethal lagoon]

Staves have faster quell spd than abilities, generally speaking

But that's not a bad way to level.

Try not to use smite too much, you can develop bad habits though.

[steep estuary]

Yeah with a staff you'll have to take a moment to quell, but personally I enjoy not managing ammo

Plus bullying weak enemies with the staves little bonk can be kinda funny

[lethal lagoon]

For guns:

[spiral minnow]

found there perk which increase quell speed so maybe that for staff usage?

and one which dont reduce my speed

[steep estuary]

I think that perk lets you walk and quell without slowing down much?

[lethal lagoon]

Mind in motion is largely unneeded, but some people like it

[steep estuary]

Its nice if your teammates dont wanna sit still ever lol

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think I've ever had pub teammates faster than me lmao

[spiral minnow]

i often find myself behind, but probably bcs i dont knwo maps yet .)

[lethal lagoon]

That's learning, I personally recommend t3s until level 25ish, and then try some normal or low int t5s.

[steep estuary]

Ive had many teammates that will sprint everywhere, and move before things are properly cleared

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, but why keep up with them, it's more funny when the zealot runs off alone and get's trapped. Bonus points if he rages into the mic

[spiral minnow]

its amazing when they leave u wuth horde and then have to pick u up bcs there were 2 dual axe ragers .)

[steep estuary]

Oh yeah, had that happen earlier when someone took off lol

[echo frigate]

skipping heresey?

wat

[lethal lagoon]

Heresy is heresy

[echo frigate]

that's a huge jump

[steep estuary]

Heresy is heresy

[echo frigate]

between malice and heresey

[lethal lagoon]

You'll find some of the worst players in the game queueing heresy, it's not a positive experience.

If you run a pre-made then go for it

[echo frigate]

No?

[lethal lagoon]

Yes?

[echo frigate]

You run into less lvl 30s

but no

[steep estuary]

I've had some rough experiences im heresy. Less so in damnation. Malice is nice, chill even.

[spiral minnow]

i am at secomd dificulty, will wait for higher level n gear to up the game .)

[lethal lagoon]

It's a well-known occurrence my brother. And any 30s queueing heresy.... phew, watch out lmao.

[spiral minnow]

also any tips on melee weapon? so far i am using sword with cleave, force swords sounds nice, but i had problem in vermintide with 1 target weapons xD

[steep estuary]

Is it worthwhile to pivot from assail to brainburst?

[spiral minnow]

apart from shade with daggers xD that was fun

[echo frigate]

depends on what you are using

[echo frigate]

force swords are nice

esp the mk5

illisi

[lethal lagoon]

Illy force sword for horde clear, mk4 dueling sword for mutants, and for crushers and other elites.

[steep estuary]

Currently got a voidstrike staff and deimos sword. Open to changing things up

[echo frigate]

uh bb wouldn't change much

[steep estuary]

I like that the force swords can hit hard

[echo frigate]

and you may want to keep assails for cc

well hordes

[echo frigate]

a lot of each classes stuff does

Vet power sword

Zealot heavy evis

Ogryn shovel

[steep estuary]

Oh, also venting shriek with soulblaze

[echo frigate]

New ones that is '

[echo frigate]

That's rlly good with smite

I got a build for that

[spiral minnow]

also just idea, when i use all my shards aka 10x10 peril i get to 100, iwll i go boom or i would have to make another action

[steep estuary]

I feel like im kinda spread weird. I'll boot my pc real quick and take a screenshot of my stuff

[lethal lagoon]

If you throw a shard at 100%, you'll blow up. Reaching 100% doesn't make you blow up.

Smite is the exception to the rule, as you just won't push if you go past 100%.

[steep estuary]

If youre about to boom venting shriek can be a get out of jail free card

[echo frigate]

#1158835513789272126

You may like that

idk

[steep estuary]

OwO

[lethal lagoon]

Smite jump is kind of a waste, I'd grab the 4% warp charge on kill or Soulstealer.

[echo frigate]

No?

lol

each thingie jumps plus 1 more time

If you play anything malice or above you'll hit the cap regardless of the jump

[lethal lagoon]

Smite is going to cover the whole map anyways, it's functionally useless unless you are really bad at aiming.

[echo frigate]

So take the jump

[lethal lagoon]

I literally only play auric t5s and auric maels

[echo frigate]

That's not the purpose?

[echo frigate]

I have a big pp too your point?

The jumps do, do stuff

[steep estuary]

lmao

[echo frigate]

It's an indepth numbers thing I think

do some funny math based on in game code

that was data mined

[lethal lagoon]

You brought up malice first?

[steep estuary]

I don't enjoy smite personally. I stun enemies and my teammates keep going towards the non-stunned ones >_>

[echo frigate]

That's where it starts to cap out lol?

[echo frigate]

You use it for cc and to throw them around

Also the jumps make the charge attack better

[echo frigate]

Like that's how ranges work

Jumps would be useless if they started working in aurics

[lethal lagoon]

Why specify the charge attack unless you actually use lmb... lmao

[echo frigate]

Just listing options dude

lmb is troll

and I don't like to make assumptions

Too many morons

@steep estuary Just try stuff, ask questions, and most importantly have fun

[steep estuary]

This is where I've spread things out

Also

[lethal lagoon]

That's the bugged one

Yeah 😆

[lethal lagoon]

You want perfect timing and if you use assail alot you want PC too.

[steep estuary]

Oh well, ordo dockets time

[ornate hamlet]

It takes courage to not get kinetic deflection and not take warp siphon with fire shriek

Oh, the things both could do

[steep estuary]

PC?

[lethal lagoon]

Perilous combustion, top left

If you are voidstriking 99% of the time, it's usefulness is questionable, but it pairs with assail really well.

[steep estuary]

Ohh

I've been doing melee a lot more lately since Rinda has been getting up in my face a ton

Kinda getting better at dodging, blocking and slashing lol

[ornate hamlet]

Aided quite a handful by kinetic deflection

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, if you are running the bosses, no KD is kinda rough

[steep estuary]

Didnt realize how good it was, put this together as a 2nd loadout

[lethal lagoon]

Perfecting timing, top right, you are missing out on a ton of damage.

I don't wanna change your build too much, so I'd just take the toughness gen out of EP, and the extra point past KD

[hearty oak]

Why tf is trauma so fucking stingy with giving me any T4 perks. My god, 7 staffs with only one useless T4 perk

[lethal lagoon]

You're not looking for blazing spirit, right?

[hearty oak]

Wdym

[steep estuary]

Shoudl I go for mettle or Warp Expenditure before PT?

[lethal lagoon]

I don't like mettle except for guns, but most people prefer it for voidstrike/assail.

Mostly cause Warp expen isn't that great.

[lethal lagoon]

There's no tier 4 blazing spirit on trauma

[steep estuary]

Yeah 2.5% for 10% generated isnt a phenominal trade

Though you can generate peril pretty quick

[hearty oak]

No, i was looking for really any T4 perk at this point

[lethal lagoon]

Just making sure you wern't another misguided cousin

t4s are super rare outside of melk for me

Hence why I roll two psykers

[steep estuary]

So wait, if you have a second psyker, what carries between them?

[lethal lagoon]

blessings

[steep estuary]

Oh neat

[lethal lagoon]

That's for every class with shared weapons

[hearty oak]

tehy are only for trauma. Every other staff, i have all their T4 perks for

thanks hadron

[lethal lagoon]

So blessings you get on your dagger on psyker work for zealot

[dapper shadow]

Okay I played a high intensity game yesterday with 4 psykers, two with shields, two with smite and me with the surge staff

Its so, so fun

shield never runs out because once one depletes, the other casts

and we have infinite cc

the elites and specials literally couldnt touch anyone

the entire game

[lethal lagoon]

My favorite run ever, I still remember from shortly after beta, was a pub where it was 4 psykers each with a different staff.

[steep estuary]

That sounds pretty awesome

[lethal lagoon]

I mean statistically, that had to be a crazy thing, it was so fun cause all the staves synergize so well with each other

[dapper shadow]

it was one of the assassination missions and there were several points to hold out so the bubble shields were even better

there was that point where you had to wait for the elevator after the bridge and no mobs came past 30m of our bubble besides the ones spawning in within the room because all four of us were spamming our staffs down the bridge

it was amazing

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah... I remember a 4 psyker run I had recently It was me and 3 guys who just spammed base smite

[dapper shadow]

elites basically become normal ads with 4 psykers

[steep estuary]

What should I be looking for in a good voidstrike and deimos anyhow?

[lethal lagoon]

Blast radius is the dump for void.

Surge and Nexus would be ideal.

Flurry and Nexus if you can't find surge

[lethal lagoon]

Perks, there's lots of options for void, nothing is really BiS like it is for Surge Staff

That works too

[steep estuary]

I swear my staves are all warp flurry or blazing spirit smh my head

[lethal lagoon]

#psyker-class message

Roll a blazing trauma, problem solved

[steep estuary]

True, trauma isnt bad

Eh

[lethal lagoon]

Don't wanna dump the quell for a blazing.

Could still roll a decent rending

[urban sandal]

you basically need a god rolled staff for a good blazing trauma

[steep estuary]

Might just stick with what I got, get the fancy pants, then focus on gear lol

Oh right this thing

Random drop earlier

[lethal lagoon]

Surge staffs are really easy to roll if you want something meta with low effort.

Ob force sword has been left behind by the power creep

completely useless

[steep estuary]

Well shoot

[lethal lagoon]

🥹

[steep estuary]

More ordo dockets ig

[urban sandal]

could take one of the blessings

[steep estuary]

Do the blessings go across force swords?

[lethal lagoon]

Blazing spirit is a meme and superiroity isn't even a meme, it's just bad.

Yes

[urban sandal]

yeah

[steep estuary]

OH

Noted

[vale nacelle]

Blaze trauma + DS4 all day 🙏

[urban sandal]

staves are the only weapon 'family' that don't share blessings

[steep estuary]

At least I have a fresh Deimos to work up at some point

[urban sandal]

[steep estuary]

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/robot-dancing-dance-dancing-robot-t600-robot-gif-22132535

Hadron bout to ruin your life

[steep estuary]

RNGsus here to smite me

Honestly the amount of gambling it takes to do things is such a pain

[lethal lagoon]

I've always wondered if a pay to win system that only uses free currency would be fun.

[urban sandal]

that's why I don't partake in the crafting system

[lethal lagoon]

Fatshark has answered my question

It isn't.

[steep estuary]

Definitely has a lot of "EH good enough" moments when getting randomized items

21571 off the shiny armour

Soon I will be the brightest target around

ITS ALL BLAZING SPIRIT III

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma calls for you

[dapper shadow]

would elites or flak be better here

changing specialists

[lethal lagoon]

Oh you got a nice roll

Flak is meta

By far, like so far that anything other than Flak is an objectively bad decision

[dapper shadow]

Aite, yeah I’m glad it only took me about 100k ordos

I’d like damage to be 80% but thats pretty good considering I just hit 30 on psyker

[compact thorn]

Maniac and unyielding is up there with flak tbh

[lethal lagoon]

It's really not even close

[urban sandal]

unyielding definitely not

[west bronze]

unyielding = boss dmg

[urban sandal]

cant think of 1 weapon where flak wont be the ideal perk

[hoary badge]

plasma doesn't really need it

[urban sandal]

plasma doesnt need anything tbf

[hoary badge]

still

[west bronze]

thing is, bosses are rarer than maniac enemies

[lethal lagoon]

Surge only hits bodyshots, so it's flak consistency is through the roof.

Unyielding is a good 2nd, but only a 2nd.

[hoary badge]

thunderhammers don't either

[urban sandal]

thammers usually take flak and unyielding

or elites ig

[hoary badge]

crucis needs its crusher bp

[urban sandal]

regardless, they should probably do something about the fact that flak is the bis perk for 99% of setups but they've kind of cornered themselves

[hoary badge]

still better than +attack speed + crit chance lmao

[plucky flax]

Laspistol. It does very good flak damage. I go maniac unyielding there.

[dapper shadow]

crit chance has its uses on some weapons though

though idk if 5% is good enough

[plucky flax]

It is for certain stuff.

Blaze trauma for example.

[urban sandal]

I was being facetious but yeah ik there's a couple

[dapper shadow]

question, does the surge staff's individual ticks when using secondary fire proc crits?

or only the burst damage at the end

[plucky flax]

I run crit chance on my double bleed knife on zealot too.

[hoary badge]

only initial hit I think

[cosmic sigil]

Double bleeeed????

[plucky flax]

Double bleed blessings yeah it's good.

[worldly iron]

@sterile grove it works on Auric, Gunpsyker builds that increase your Crits works like charm

Shitpost gun works

[plucky flax]

9% pen wtf

[worldly iron]

yes, its carried by Crit Damage

Crit Damage completely ignores armor

[plucky flax]

Yeah but you won't have 100% crit rate. With surgical you can hold ads to guarantee crit.

[worldly iron]

yeah

[cosmic sigil]

Thousand cuts technique?

Do you have a video?

[plucky flax]

Yeah you crit once and move on. All shooters even elites die to 1 crit.
https://youtu.be/bms7mTnXu88

You make your teammates run after you to finish the map faster.

[vagrant cedar]

i want his mission layout mod

[plucky flax]

It's on nexus mission board or something like that.

[sterile grove]

Fuck revolvers

[cosmic sigil]

Of course. Martyr. That opens possibilities for sure

[sterile grove]

I'm going Rambo with the Columnus Mk V Infantry Autogun with Scrier Gaze + Smite with the Empowered Psionics

[halcyon agate]

I have tried the assail and it is really fun

But why is it keep triggering demon host?

[worldly iron]

It follows your cursor

The Assail Shards follow whatever the fuck You’re pointing at

[ornate hamlet]

I'mma point it at these feelings so I can see them gone

[halcyon agate]

I aim at a group of gunner and all of a sudden the host just wakes

[plucky flax]

@idle bay

[idle bay]

He thought it was old patch. I pointed out that it's latest one.

[plucky flax]

Oh cos blaze trauma was better in old patch? It's been the same since patch 13. :p

[plucky flax]

Don't play like me though most hated gamer

[spiral minnow]

so gave a voidstaf try, not bad, but i didnt used my blitz abi... not even once xD

changed brain to smite, it is probably usefull?

[stone canyon]

Melk has not heard the memo that i prefer Voidstrike 🤷‍♂️

[rocky raven]

charge smite for ~4 ticks into LMB throws all the grunts down. or vent above 83% peril to att full blaze stacks and leave em to die

[stone canyon]

Have you tried Assail? It made my Psyker leveling easy

Just spam your 10 darts away and then go melee/ranged while you get new batch of psyknives back. Only thing it struggles is heavy armored targets so maybe get something on melee/ranged to deal with those. For me its Voidstrike staff now at lvl 30

[spiral minnow]

yeah, from start, i am now experimenting left side .)

[stone canyon]

Yeah definitely worth trying others too while at it. I just had to use brainburst to finish redacted penances lastnight

Got now fancy new outfit

My first damnation mission was enough to get the 300s warp charges Warp Battery penance done, was just non-stop waves of hordes coming for that time and i had no even time to pay attention to that challenge and it just came as byproduct

4 brainbursts in 12s was pretty easy with the right talents that boost its recharge

[spiral minnow]

but yeah, shards definitely best so far, killing everything while not even aiming nearly xD

[stone canyon]

Yeah lastnight "clutched" maelstorm with em, or cant really call it clutch as failed to revive team in time and they just died instead and i then went to get em up

Warning, noob psyker gameplay so dont catch bad habits from it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zcv8xnOZuT8

I voidstriked most of the earlier mission as heavy armored stuff before that ending which was soft

[plucky flax]

Pro clutch

[stone canyon]

I only learned why some enemies glow blue in that mission, was that right bottom part of my talent tree

[rocky raven]

that was like 90% saber clutch assail didnt carry ya nice

**get precognition/uncanny if ya dance around like that for some serious poker power 😉

[stone canyon]

Paid off to start as Zealot so melee doesnt feel uncomfortable

That stabby thing, basicly first decent roll Duelling Sword i saw once i hit lvl 30 and had some RNG luck with it with blessings that work (but not maybe best)

[spiral minnow]

played vt2 so melee is good, i like hack n slash xD

[plucky flax]

Yeah I am very pro at melee coming from vt2.

[spiral minnow]

anyway for leveling purposes shards and gun? and staves at 30 with better quality?

[stone canyon]

Didnt use 2nd rebless/refine because not sure if change Rampage or one of those bad perks, ideally id just pick up better rolled 370+ base new sword

[plucky flax]

Slayer dual melee weapons type.

[rocky raven]

whatever you enjoy really

[stone canyon]

I used Purgatus stuff a lot just for fun, but it was weak while leveling

But it was fun in missions where we had like Zealot with flamer too, just burning everything

[spiral minnow]

i am thinking shards going well with this middle purple?

[spiral minnow]

oh yeah, i loved my dwarf with big flamethrower gun... so satisfying .)

[rocky raven]

ideally you want high finesse/dmg cause it has huge multipliers to take advantage of on the IV specifically,

[stone canyon]

I didnt notice much difference trying Empowered Psionics with Assail to be honest

[stone canyon]

Ok will keep eye out for those, mobility is dump stat i guess

[rocky raven]

not a dump imo, speed buffs scale linearly with stat on duelies

[stone canyon]

Well yeah, not like 30%, but 60%+ upwards perhaps?

[rocky raven]

but over 50-60 will still feel good

[stone canyon]

Im keeping my eye out for +3 stamina curio too, because guide told me to 😅

[rocky raven]

lol

+3stam always feels good tbf

[stone canyon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959 incase you havent seen

[rocky raven]

thats been pinned in this channel for ages XD

[spiral minnow]

seen thx, but my head gonna explode from that, some tldr would be nice xD

[stone canyon]

Soon year old, Posted 22 Jan, 2023 @ 1:33am

[rocky raven]

its a good baseline. dont agree with all of it but lot of good info stil

[stone canyon]

tldr is experiement and have fun, but if things feel difficult, just spam assail (unless there is that green sleeper around)

[rocky raven]

lol dont crutch on assail, it falls off in higher lvls now post-nerf

[spiral minnow]

can assail crit?

[stone canyon]

Yeah and hit weakspots

[spiral minnow]

or abilities generaly

[rocky raven]

abils can crit, only specific staff/assail weakpoint

[stone canyon]

Id also try to get those penances done while leveling, like push 7 guys off a bridge type ones. So you dont then have to try to do goofy stuff with weird talent setups in Heresy/Damnation at lvl 30

[spiral minnow]

the push effect seems very short so how u line it up?

[ionic island]

reminds me of how it took me until a month or so ago i finally got the push people off the bridge penance and i've been playing on and off since the open beta LOL

[ionic island]

certain maps have fantastic thin bridges for you to do it on

[stone canyon]

https://youtu.be/YYd1Q2u7NV8 Vigil Station Oblivium

But basicly Venting Shriek on a bridge

Helps to stack some ability cooldown talents too

[ionic island]

i could never get this area to work for me because of bloodthirsty teammates but i know it's generally like the place to do it LOL

[rocky raven]

most psyker ones are much easier in a group ya

[stone canyon]

It helps if you like take over one of the two bridges so teammates think you got it covered, then instead you go penance hunting once its yours

[ionic island]

one of them straight up requires you to have a team now

[rocky raven]

force sword can also be blockpush spammed to move mobs closer to a ledge

[rocky raven]

i mean ya considering the requirement

[ionic island]

still need to do the team required zealot penance at some point

[stone canyon]

I got only custom game brainburst 90%+ of boss left, then id have full black set

[ionic island]

i'm so glad they did it though because i could not imagine being the person trying to do that with randos

[rocky raven]

LFG channel for a shield ogryn that knows how to tank a DH + two others to kill mobs and its ez

[hard widget]

someone have a good brainburst build I can copy for penances? I just hit level 30 on psyker and I want some shortcuts instead of testing everything

[spiral minnow]

good point

[rocky raven]

one requires warp battery maxed kils; dont take the final perk for +6

others just use EP keystone + kinetic resonance.

• elite dmg aura is helpful in some cases as well, lets you pop a couple extra types

[hard widget]

do you take kinetic flayer?

[rocky raven]

kinetic RUPTURE yes for challenges. flayer is absolutely useless always

[hard widget]

and venting shriek is how you do the cliff knockoff penance right?

[stone canyon]

I did it lastnight, just get all the talents that support Brainburst and make it faster

[rocky raven]

shriek/sword push/smite pretty much anything

[hard widget]

what modifiers are good for ep

with brain rupture

[rocky raven]

just take right+bottom. you only want it so you can spam a few quick with the 3 charges stored to get it done

[rocky raven]

tho once the specific 4kill penance done go back to warp battery so you can work on the stack of kills

[stone canyon]

Was gonna type what i used for brainburst, but baby pressed pc case's power button

[spiral minnow]

confess that the button is big and red xD

[dapper shadow]

man after I got downed everyone just fell immediately. I just love the surge staff so much

[plucky flax]

Surge is so good

[dapper shadow]

High intensity shock trooper gauntlet really shows how much it shines being able to deal with elites and specials asap through a horde

[plucky flax]

That's too hard I stay in sedition

[dapper shadow]

I think the best part is you can charge, peek out of a door/corner, target an elite/special and go back to your corner as you shock em to death

[dapper shadow]

I don’t usually play it either I prefer regular damnation but quickplay keeps giving me HI

Or rather HI games that are already half collapsed

I actually managed to rescue three team members fighting through a swarm of specials and elites

Still lost that run but it was fun

[plucky flax]

@idle bay help

[idle bay]

He was confused by interface and though that it was pre-patch 13

[plucky flax]

Huh.. post 13 blaze trauma got a lot stronger.

[compact thorn]

Where the offense stats tho

[dapper shadow]

I dont know how to add that plugin, i downloded it but it didnt work

Not sure if its clashing with the other mods

Do I turn off the original scoreboard plugin and enable that, or have both enabled at the same time 🤔

[compact thorn]

I have base scoreboard and plugins at the same time and they work

[dapper shadow]

gotta look at the mod list

oh wait

do you replace the files

of the original scoreboard

[compact thorn]

No

[dapper shadow]

i tried this one

that looks different

do you have a link for the plugin

[compact thorn]

Oh nvm
Yours fine I focused on the wrong thing, my bad

But I can still give link to the mods I have

[dapper shadow]

yeeah my game crashes when I have both the scoreboard and that plugin on at the same time

[compact thorn]

Yeah then no worries, if it works it works
Also surge staff putting up work

[dapper shadow]

yep

[static needle]

Is there any good alternative to laspistol or colomnus as gunpsyker?

[summer prairie]

ovenproof's plugin needs to be below the base scoreboard in the load order and you may also have to update your base mod

[dapper shadow]

I’ll check that out, thanks

[mighty fractal]

Hoping we get dual cata swords and dual axes at some point for zealot, at least

[clear wagon]

i want to have quattro swords

2 in hands, 2 in feet

[potent echo]

More fps games need to involve feet

[clear wagon]

you dream about that don't you

[dapper shadow]

okay now it works

[dapper shadow]

I just uh

probably have to turn off some layers

not sure which

[static needle]

Do duelling sword marks share blessings? 99% sure the answer is yes

[distant roost]

yes

[prime turret]

What are the sources of Soulblaze debuff? Just Perilous Combustion talent node?

[plucky flax]

Creeping flames. Blessing from trauma, void, and force sword. Purgatus staff.

[paper loom]

Messing around with a soul blaze gun psyker build . What affects the dmg it does?

[west bronze]

I wanna replace infested with maniac and terr barrage with surgical

[trim valve]

Has someone done "the math" when it comes to smite with EP and without? Like the TTK and the amount of targets it can be hit by smite after X amount of time'

[calm basalt]

bro you can see the results yourself with your specific build in psykhanium. there are so many variables so you have full control there

[paper loom]

That's a hella nice gun

[west bronze]

absolutely

got it from brunt's armory

[static needle]

Mercy killer or uncanny strike?

for knife?

[left dagger]

clutched with gunker, no Deathspitter but decent enough

had another columbus with deathspiter IV but stability 64% is really noticable

[trim valve]

Ehh, I was thinking more like a math formula for it.

[clear wagon]

do u love math bro?

solving equations aaaalll night

[ornate hamlet]

How do you use scriers gaze effectively with assail

keep blowing up lol

even holding down r

[cold geode]

Don't use assails or any other peril generating attack while gaze is running

[ornate hamlet]

ahh damn

guess its for melee /gunners?

[cold geode]

Its for enhancing melee and gun based attacks

[static needle]

You dont use assail while scriers is active, at most, shoot out 2 shots

[cold geode]

I use assails when gaze is cooling down and I need to hit a ranged target and i don't have time to reload. Or when I want to conserve ammo vs an on coming horde

[cerulean seal]

I finished my first Heresy level quickplay mission lasst night, as a gun psyker. My honest reaction: 😄
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fAbLH_gFag

I dont know what the fuck was going on, there were a million mobs, and we were hauling 5 ammo crates to a lander

[ornate hamlet]

once i got to level 30 i found heresy quite ez cause of cheese

and if we have a good ogryn its smooth sailing

[spiral minnow]

what cheese? .)

[ornate hamlet]

damnation though makes me sweat and gives me adrenaline boost irl

assail spam + quickdraw 340 rating revolver

[spiral minnow]

i am at malice nad it feels same for me xD

[ornate hamlet]

i wanted to boost my assail damage a bit more with gaze but it doesnt work like i hoped it would

i think its for gunners

where as my primary is assail

i specd all the other criticals and let it stack and i get good dps

but still without ogryn or zelot damnation is hard af

[cerulean seal]

I was lvl 19, and after it was done, rick pretty much nailed my reaction 😄

[ornate hamlet]

heresy is also quite hard depending on the modifiers

and if someone triggers 2 bosses at the same time lel

"dont shoot the daemonhost"

" oops"

bam plague ogryn joins in out of nowhere too

[trim valve]

I don't like doing math, but I like saving time with it.

[cerulean seal]

i like to leave the demonhost alone cause his voicelines are super creepy and cool

[ornate hamlet]

ogryn can tank it though and let rest of the team kill it

[plucky flax]

Obscurus gaming

[ornate hamlet]

I get bored on damnation at times unironically
Not to say it's cos it's too easy but sometimes the director is just chill

[young pagoda]

"buzz buzz buzz buzz"

[ornate hamlet]

And the players who play aurics tend to be confident and not randomly die to garbage

But I say that when there's people who also just die to the first crusher lol

i still havent played aurics, im level 30 ogryn and phsycer lol

Honestly just rng if your team is good or bad

[vestal fulcrum]

aspire to such virtues, sibling

[plucky flax]

[vestal fulcrum]

YEEE SOLID

[ornate hamlet]

No rush
If you don't feel like tryharding it's not really an issue tbh xd I just enjoy the constant hordes

[plucky flax]

Now FS buff obscurus you bastards.

[ornate hamlet]

Been playing tide games for over 600+ hours combined now if you include my vt2 experience

[cold geode]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-dance-dancing-dances-party-gif-14011899

[ornate hamlet]

So anything that's not the game throwing kitchen sinks at me is me getting bored eventually

[plucky flax]

You reckon uncanny is good?

[ornate hamlet]

i played deep rock deep dives that took over an hour or longer

and it stresses me out

when i just need a breather

[cerulean seal]

damn, Slaughter blessing looks amazing

[ornate hamlet]

Based and chad rock and stone

[plucky flax]

I don't know if I really want to pull out the obscurus that much. Xd

[vestal fulcrum]

I don't know, I take it for granted that it does something useful

[ornate hamlet]

so i avoided aurics, ill try it eventually

[vestal fulcrum]

It probably is redundant if you take it with Trauma or something

[granite mauve]

obscurus is so awkward to use

[ornate hamlet]

No rush

[granite mauve]

worst moveset ever

[plucky flax]

I could try slaughterer executor to boost damage.

Need to test how easy it is to keep executor stacks.

Okay it's impossible with the light 2.

That upper cut attack

[granite mauve]

they really need to update it

[plucky flax]

Nope it's too trash I'll put it in the storage and wait.

[spiral minnow]

first demonhost encountered and he just went after me only... any tips? .)

[hard widget]

block

and hope your team kills it before it kills you

[spiral minnow]

well my high lvl teamates didnt xDD

[hard widget]

its either all of you melt it really quickly, or you just sacrifice two souls to the warp and hope half your team can revive you eventually

its really easy to takedown if you dont pull it during an elite spam

[ornate hamlet]

doesnt it only attack first the person who triggers it?

[hard widget]

I dunno, I think thats how its supposed to be, but I saw it attack the closest person a couple of times as opposed to the guy that shot it

getting close to it can trigger it too of course

[west bronze]

noice

[young pagoda]

From my experience it usuallt goes after at least 2 people on Heresy, but idk why, or what makes it do that.

[plucky flax]

Nice would be sick with surgical 4.

[west bronze]

yeah, I'll try to get that asap

[plucky flax]

It took me a lot of plasteels for surgical 4.

It kept giving me other t4 blessings.

[mossy surge]

Gl with gambling

[west bronze]

I'll need it

[trim valve]

Would Warp Siphon be a good alternative for a Gun Psyker? I really don't like how random Disrupt Destiny is, but going from the right side all the way to Warp Siphon is kinda expensive.

[mossy surge]

I remember spending 80k plasteel for a single t4

[dim parrot]

pls dont remind me of the search for uncanny t4

[mossy surge]

I still need either uncanny or slaughter t4 on deimos

[mossy surge]

[dim parrot]

gl sibling

[feral verge]

executor is the way to go