#psyker-class

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lethal lagoon
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carpace to flak

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Can also keep carpace and reroll both blessings

stone canyon
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Does Terrifying Barrage actually work in meaningful way, like can i blast nearby targets and have enemies sneaking on my back be suppressed by it?

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Because then it might be better for survivability than weak 5% to 16% reload buff?

hearty oak
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@plucky flax Im now one of the weirdos that put his name under their crosshairs to see health stats

lethal lagoon
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Also it's kind of weird our HP bar is identifical to our teammates

twin zephyr
plucky flax
hearty oak
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just below the centre

plucky flax
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Bruh

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That's too close.

hearty oak
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Had to turn subtitles off to make it work

plucky flax
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I have my hp at centre bottom and subtitles go to the top.

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Bit weird but it works

hearty oak
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When you know what everyone is saying, the subs just arent even needed

plucky flax
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Me no engrish

plucky flax
ionic frost
hearty oak
ionic frost
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you do you... =)

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worthy relic
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Duelling sword or force sword?

potent echo
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Yes

hearty oak
worthy relic
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demioos is more st tho?

hearty oak
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yeah. mk 5 has more usage than demios

potent echo
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Both have good points

worthy relic
potent echo
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They don't really have bad points other than needing a little more effort to horde clear

rocky raven
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swap deflector > executor for diemos and get a bigboi killer move built in

eager mantle
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Got so used to having shriek and running purgatus that I bursted 2 min into the match with surge.

hearty dagger
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Beneficent emperor, why have you forsaken me

lethal lagoon
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I don't really cast surge at 100% on accident, I do it on purpose cause why not. Now the muscle memory sticks....

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In fairness, 60% damage, kind of bad lmao

hearty dagger
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I am well aware.

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The emperor has forsaken me it would seem.

lethal lagoon
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The emperor hates us

hearty dagger
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Yep.

eager mantle
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Could always have brunt trying to kill you

vestal fulcrum
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Brunt? It's the weapon

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Brunt just didn't want to have anything to do with it

hearty dagger
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Should i go for 25% Elite Damage or 5% crit on voidstrike?

rocky raven
ornate hamlet
cold ivy
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low warp resist on a sword is actually pretty good if you run venting shriek + soulblaze, because you want to shriek at 85+% for 6 stacks

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and the fastest way to get there is spamming the force sword special -> the lower your force sword's warp resist the fewer times you gotta do it

cinder oar
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Hey Does BBing a Weakened boss, count for the 90% dmg to boss penance?

rocky raven
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no

idle plover
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Always axe or dueling saber

eager mantle
stone canyon
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One blessing closer to goal, now just need Warp Nexus or Surge

idle plover
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I like getting that one torrent auto gun and pop scrier

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Mows hordes very cleanly, also claps crushers amd ragers too

static needle
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Is this skin the same for all 3 force swords? including deimos?

vestal fulcrum
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But I would initially assume “yes”

median depot
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i have been trying to get the surge perk for the voidstrike for almost a week now???? is there a trick to getting it somehow

plucky flax
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It's one of the harder blessing to get sadly.

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Up there with power cycler 4.

rocky raven
steel egret
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And since Ive gotten it, Ive had it like 6 times.

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Could also have been 400h either way.

steel egret
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Nothing

opaque cliff
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He's clearly Al Qaueda

rocky raven
opaque cliff
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Do I play the long game and try to meet him IRL and then stab him

static needle
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I feel like as a gunspyker I still need assail CDR to be able to utilize emphatic evasion without being stingy with using assail

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an keep in mind im using revolver

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so dont have anything ranged that is fast firing besides assail

rocky raven
static needle
rocky raven
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and if you're charging a pack of gunners alone yea, youre gonna get lit

static needle
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i can deal big dmg while in their face without taking any dmg

steel egret
rocky raven
steel egret
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% is same on purp and blue

rocky raven
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nope

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also purp rolls a perk, think you meant gold

steel egret
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Yes

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But you have someone who has tested that?

static needle
steel egret
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As far as I know conseus has been its same %

summer prairie
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definitely higher chance of a t4 when upgrading to orange and there's also one less blessing available

steel egret
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Not really level we are talking about

rocky raven
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actually its the same thing,

steel egret
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Sure

rocky raven
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its weighted table rolls, one of the main factors being the gearscore when you consecrate + to blue or G

steel egret
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Sure, rating is a contributing factor.

opaque cliff
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lfg# anyone wanna shart it up?

plucky flax
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Nein

opaque cliff
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is that german for yes?

static needle
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Is the 5% ranged damage node worth it for this build or should I just switch to +15 toughness/quietude?

opaque cliff
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5% damage bro

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15 toughness can get got elsewhere

static needle
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ye but in actuallity its 20 toughness since i have curio and perks for toughness

ornate hamlet
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more crit chance

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per warp peril

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but

stone canyon
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Nexus

ornate hamlet
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do that

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yeah

opaque cliff
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@static needle 5% damage bro

stone canyon
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Yeah im looking for it

ornate hamlet
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and surge

stone canyon
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Surge is 2 hits per crit

ornate hamlet
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surge literally doubles the crit

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yeah

static needle
ornate hamlet
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it just fucking molests everything

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its great

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its a fun build

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@stone canyon also quick tip

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use shield

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dome

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trust me it gives you breathing room

stone canyon
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Yeah i do, survivability and ranged protection

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But right now im building brain rupture build just to do the stupid penances

ornate hamlet
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dome and shriek with fire are both s tier

stone canyon
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Hate that skill

static needle
opaque cliff
ornate hamlet
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its really only for like peril and blah

opaque cliff
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r8 my massive load

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smite > assail

ornate hamlet
static needle
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i feel like shield is unneccesary if you are good at killing and already have smite/assail, since both of those can counter gunners well

ornate hamlet
opaque cliff
ornate hamlet
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also it blocks grenades

static needle
ornate hamlet
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and works as a good separator

static needle
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and it can horde clear too and help kill mixed/trash hordes with blaze vent, insanely good

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its a nuke button

opaque cliff
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now check out #pet-tide and tell me mynew puppy is cute

ornate hamlet
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less of a charge canon shot

static needle
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hmm

ornate hamlet
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shield is just great to protect

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i made mine a weird psyker zealot

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i have good blocking and other stuff

static needle
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it feels like you dont need it tho if you have a good team with one person running bible or shout

opaque cliff
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i literally spec'd for shield psyk, what's the best shield psyker build?

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i want to be able to put a shield everywhere always for forever

ornate hamlet
static needle
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cause psykers toughness regen team support is just inferior to shout or bible zealot imo

opaque cliff
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no mettle?

static needle
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since shield's toughness regen speed is slow compared to shout or bible

ornate hamlet
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if you use shred on your sword

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it works way better

opaque cliff
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well i crit sometimes, and i shoot a lot

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it's a nice buff to have

ornate hamlet
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literally gettijng a toughness boost per hit and a speed boost

static needle
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i said team toughness regen

ornate hamlet
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it actually kind of works

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oh yeah true too

opaque cliff
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on the offchance that i crit, i'd love to beef out my party even harder

stone canyon
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Time to try Pick'N'Mix with build 100% focused on getting done with this annoying penance

opaque cliff
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holy poopy username dude

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do you kiss your mom with that name

stone canyon
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I dont kiss my mom since im not southern european

opaque cliff
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you wanna see a cute ass dog animistic?

static needle
opaque cliff
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i doubt even henks can control his cuteness-regulator for how adorable this puppy is, she's so small

opaque cliff
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shiba > huskeroni

opaque cliff
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i mean dude

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don't you just wanna cuddle her to death on mars

static needle
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very psyker related indeed

opaque cliff
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ssh i'll delete it

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don't alert mods

static needle
ornate hamlet
opaque cliff
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shred?

ornate hamlet
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you will constantly crit in hordes

opaque cliff
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ah yeah

ornate hamlet
opaque cliff
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which force sword has shred again

ornate hamlet
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all

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all 3 variants

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have it

opaque cliff
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sick

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deleting cutest puppy (way cuter than henkz' dog) picture

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sorry mods

static needle
opaque cliff
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damn dude you fucking immediately reported me

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what a fucking life yo umust live

static needle
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unspoken heresy

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huh? i didnt 🤣

opaque cliff
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someone did, pleb

static needle
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not me, bro

opaque cliff
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i love dogge pic

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sned dog

static needle
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on god emprah i did'nah

opaque cliff
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fuck it

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this is now psyker dog channel

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ban me if you want to fatshark

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i wanna see cute dogs and play darktide

static needle
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hellhound be way to go

opaque cliff
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henkz send doge

stone canyon
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😭 when your teammate kills your last target 0.1s before it brain ruptures

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This has potential?

plucky flax
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Big boss damage with blaze trauma. Pogryn

stone canyon
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Only custom game thing left, too bad you need friend for that

terse sonnet
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What's the priority stats on this staff for a smite build

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Damage
Crit bonus
then what?

vestal fulcrum
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Damage is the most important one, certainly

terse sonnet
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I spent like 400k in the armoury

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Trying to figure what im looking for

vestal fulcrum
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Then it’s whatever, as long as it’s not super low

terse sonnet
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This was so close

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What about this, which one is better

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Or should i keep buying for a better one

vestal fulcrum
terse sonnet
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Hmmm

vestal fulcrum
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If you want to settle on one

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I’d pick right

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But that’s me

terse sonnet
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the diff in crit bonus isn't that big?

vestal fulcrum
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I don’t know, check what the number summaries say

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I’d say the front loaded Crit chance is good enough

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And the critical damage bonus is mostly redundant

terse sonnet
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1% diff

rare arrow
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Crit bonus is crit damage, because of how crit damage is calculated it’s actually really bad

vestal fulcrum
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Crit bonus is also Crit chance

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It’s not a lot of it, but it’s there

rare arrow
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Mind sharing the spread from the inspect screen?

errant thorn
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As a vet main who just has the reflexs to emotionlessly shoot things in the head, does anyone i play with genuinely care I have a gun and not a staff?

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Like the staff is good but I’m just better with a las pistol

rare arrow
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Play how you enjoy it

latent hill
rare arrow
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Isn’t that only the special action

vestal fulcrum
latent hill
vestal fulcrum
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It’s just a leftover from other weapons that might have used this modifier initially

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Like Tactical axes

latent hill
rare arrow
latent hill
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Bonk*

vestal fulcrum
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And no localisation was provided for ranged weapons :)

vestal fulcrum
latent hill
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Honestly, go with what you want imo, long as you can stay relatively alive

rare arrow
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I don’t believe the crit chance does apply to the Secondary action.

latent hill
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Which crit chance Lucian?

rare arrow
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On crit bonus for the surge staff

latent hill
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Oh, the yellow damage thing?

vestal fulcrum
rare arrow
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Reset your talent tree, walk into the psyk with a Grey surge staff and test it. I found multiple people with data testing it and the crit chance from crit bonus didn’t apply to crit bonus for any of them

latent hill
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Say… does anyone have a good surge staff build?

rare arrow
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I’ll test again when I’m home too

rocky raven
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nexus & flurry

rare arrow
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Unfortunately the surge staff doesn’t have 1 shot breakpoints without crits, so damage perks aren’t as relevant as other weapons

latent hill
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Flak? Why that specifically?

rocky raven
rare arrow
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There are some specials it hits 2 shot kills on with flak

latent hill
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Ok… what about skill tree?

rocky raven
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yea very roll dependent

rare arrow
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Skill tree is whatever you want

latent hill
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Oh.

rare arrow
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When you build a psyker you’re not doing so around 1 weapon

latent hill
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Well, rn I have the venting thing and warp charges

rare arrow
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You’re building a Swiss Army knife

rocky raven
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must take top2 crit nodes / crit% node / recommend elite aura and5% dmg node

rare arrow
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So surge handles 3 enemies very well. A#id pair it with a weapon or blitz that can handle groups of enemies

rocky raven
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warp batt can help bypass the breakpoint consistently if you have a clean dmg roll

latent hill
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Hmm… is assail and Deimos sword hood?

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Good*

rare arrow
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So I like smite or assail with surge staff

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And sure, Deimos gives you some single target I think that’s a start to a kit

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Now do you want bubble or venting. Both are good

latent hill
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I’m using venting for this one

rare arrow
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Seems fine, it’s more horde clear and anything that stays standing from venting gets turned off by surge

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Assail I always run the middle keystone, EP

latent hill
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The dome or the wall?

rare arrow
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I always take the dome

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If you do shield

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For venting I always do flames

latent hill
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I’d have to find good hallways for that…

rare arrow
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I thought you said you were using venting?

latent hill
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I am.

rare arrow
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As for additional talents I’d grab, as aegis mentioned the two crit talents at the top, and the bottom right “blocking gives peril”

rocky raven
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^kinetic always.

rare arrow
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Since you’re assail you can also grab the crit aura

rare arrow
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Kinetic deflection?

latent hill
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Presence

rare arrow
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Whatever it is, that talent is insane lol

rocky raven
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elite > crit in this case; nexus will do the rest

rare arrow
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Oh, they’re going venting anyways. They can’t get crit

latent hill
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Nexus?

rare arrow
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Has to be CDR or damage

rare arrow
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The crit blessing on your staff

latent hill
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Ahh…. I actually have that

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At 4

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And warp flurry

rare arrow
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Good, that’s up to 20% crit chance

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Warp flurry is for spamming which is also good since surge will almost always be doing multiple casts

latent hill
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Both are lvl 4 ^^”

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Lucky me.

rare arrow
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Flurry is less important I think 3 is 7.5% and 4 is 8.5%, but it’s super nice to have at max anyways

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But that’s at least a good baseline for a build. From there you can tweak anything you’d like

latent hill
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Will say the quell speed is speedy as heck

latent hill
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It’s like at least a second to quell from 100 to 0

plucky flax
idle bay
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Oh well.. winter is over here -it's barely -20 C here now, after few days of -27. Basicly spring here 🙂

plucky flax
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Go outside with just a t shirt on. whatthefuck_heresy

idle bay
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Well i'm sitting with with just t-shirt on and no heater on. Central heating is blasing like plasma reactor 🙂

plucky flax
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And I'm here with main internet down.

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So I have to use mobile hotspot.

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Just when I'm trying to upload something.

idle bay
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Slow mobile data is very painful, i agree. Though it's a very distant memory for me.

plucky flax
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The coverage around my area is really bad in term of mobile data speed.

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I live in a fairly small town.

idle bay
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No one wants to invest into small town's Internet infrastructure sadly :(\

plucky flax
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England.

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My mobile LTE gives 20 mbits download and 10 upload.

granite mauve
plucky flax
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No 5G in this area. nooooo

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CAM ON ENGERLAND SCORE SOME FACKING GOAALS

idle bay
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4g is fine...

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ENough to play Darktide via mobile data

plucky flax
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Yeah with around 80 ping.

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Kinda laggy sometimes when connection randomly drop cos mobile tethering is unreliable.

halcyon agate
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Guys, which staff / weapon is most easy to use for newbie?

plucky flax
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Surge, smite, assail.

stone canyon
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I just leveled to 30 my Psyker, and all i can say is Assail

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Besides that you should use what Emperor gives you to see how you like em. Ended up now at 30 going Maccabian Mk IV Duelling Sword and Voidstrike Staff for now

near wyvern
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It is also the least roll dependant of them all

halcyon agate
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I just started playing psyker and find that the Trauma Force Staff I got give pretty low damage for each attack

sterile grove
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Going gunker (FUCK staffs) what melee should I go with

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Thinking bout using that new knife

hard hatch
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On a trauma staff with rending shockwave, what second blessing does one want?

sullen bobcat
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The speed one

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I forgot the name

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The one that increases charge. time as you use it

hard hatch
sullen bobcat
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Yes

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Warp mcflurry

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From McDonald's

hard hatch
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Hahaha

worldly iron
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forgive me siblings, gonna make a shitpost gun

sterile grove
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Kill a crusher on damnation with that thang

hasty breach
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i think it's dead. thoughts?

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i'd want +carapace to 2 shot crushers, maniac is mid, then maybe swap rampage for something?

ornate hamlet
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ye I'd pchange groaners and rampage
or shred but shred is decent

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especially if you're stacking crit bonuses for psyker memes

hasty breach
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i wonder if the speical attack counts as chained hits, brb

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it doesnt

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rats

rare arrow
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I’d drop maniacs for carapace to 2 special crushers and the. Drop shred for blood letter

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Yea, seems absolutely fine

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Actually, you probably don’t even need carapace, but it doesn’t hurt

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So even without carapace it 2 shots crushers with 1 stack of rampage.

It one shots muties without rampage and without maniac perk.

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I’d actually change maniac to unyielding and shred to bloodletter

halcyon agate
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Does warp resistance of staff also affects assail?

digital narwhal
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No

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You ideally don't want Peril Generation reductions with Assail anyway, since you need that 10% per shard for maintaining Warp Rider (and One with the Warp if you go that route)

halcyon agate
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Emmm, I see

viscid matrix
hasty breach
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dumb question. but just to be sure - when you generate warp charges, if youre at cap, it counts as gaining a new warp charge and just resets the timer, right?so you proc the tough regen again if you took essence harvest

spiral minnow
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hi, any tips for leveling talents and choice of weapons? .)

digital narwhal
rare arrow
plucky flax
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No warp rider nooooo

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One of the must have talent.

rare arrow
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I guess I end up with it a lot because I love EP

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But, if I’m not EP I don’t go out of my way for it

hearty oak
stone canyon
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Hand-Cannon's perk level how important?

rare arrow
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I mean it doubles the rending from 1-4

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Though I’m not sure how it affects specific crit break points

granite root
rare arrow
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It’s one of my favorite things to see when I’m running assail lol cause I know I’m about to throw 20 darts

zinc phoenix
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Can hard counter them with deflector, smite, assail, shriek

granite root
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i mean i mostly added that for the meme...

zinc phoenix
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Trauma, void

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Meanwhile as zealot I’m like “fuck I’m 1 in too far to stab it before it shoots, guess I’ll die”

prime elk
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can run auric comfortably with all classes, but zealot definitely the least comfortable of them lol

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feels like i take a lot more damage playing zealot, prob because i'm always closing in to melee

fierce kindle
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why the squishest class always get the best looking cosmetics

hasty breach
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like the toilet bowl helmet

west fox
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What should I do with this? replace both perks to flak+maniac?

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or shall I swap out 1 of the blessings?

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Psyker crit rate pls

rare arrow
queen fog
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I feel the same but with vet Sitgryn

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Vet teached me to shoot good so now all my operators shoot good

rare arrow
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But melee is so integral to every class performing well

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That’s why I’m glad I gravitated to zealot

prime elk
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i do better with melee vet than i do with zealot

fierce kindle
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I’m running scriers gaze as a level 20 psyker becoming a unstable glass cannon makes so I’m stuck in malice currently , not sure what I’m exactly doing wrong, what’s everyone running for psyker in heresey+

stone canyon
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These two were in shop waiting for me, game trying to tell to try out Deimos?

fierce kindle
queen fog
chrome tangle
distant roost
chrome tangle
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^ take toughness on crits, and crits count as dodging. Helps with Melee too.

fierce kindle
chrome tangle
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Gun Psyker.

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He means bring a gun with you. It benefits the most from Scrier's Gaze.

fierce kindle
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Speaking of which might actually give my autogun some attention at hadron, what armor type are ragers?

chrome tangle
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Maniac.

fierce kindle
chrome tangle
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YOu'll want to block with Ragers, and dodge backwards and shoot them to death. You can stunlock them with a Maccabian Rapier Mk IV (?) with the special attack and heavy stab, but I'd recommend just staying away from them until you feel more confident.

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For now,don't feel bad about dying all the time as a <30 Psyker. It was my least favourite class to level.

zinc phoenix
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even got my candle armor 😤

distant roost
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this is basically Josho's gunker build

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ds4 + laspistol = fun times

lilac sigil
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Always feels like for Gun Psyker you'd want to go Smite instead of Assail, for the value it provides against armored targets (since none of the psyker guns are going to be good against those targets)

hearty dagger
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I mean, if you want to damage carapace you don't go smite you go BR

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Smite damage on a crusher is about as effective as pissing against a hurricane.

lilac sigil
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That's why I said "value", not damage.

queen fog
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A crusher looking stupid is pretty valuable thumbsup_ogryn

hearty dagger
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Yeah, but you still don't have any way to deal with them beyond the good old bonking strat.

lilac sigil
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It shuts down the Crusher pack, since you know you won't individually be contributing -- except now you ARE contributing because you stunlocked them all (and you're likely to have full Peril to dump on it too, because you're Gun Pysker) -- with the obvious implication being that your teammates end up doing a lot of the damage to them

hearty dagger
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True.

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Though teammates seeing smited crushers has the same effect as if you just smited them yourself.

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Half the time they just freeze in place.

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And by time they get to damaging you need to quell.

lilac sigil
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Well the alternative is you're assail and you're definitely not better off with the same slow-witted teammate, right?

shy prairie
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so generous mr emperor

hearty dagger
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I prefer the alternative of fuck it we ball

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Aka knock them on their ass with force sword's push attack (only knocks down one though) and go wacko with uncanny.

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Do i value smite against crusher packs? Yes.

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Do i value teammates while running smite? Hell no.

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There's a reason why my blood pressure is always high.

olive ember
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Thats me with dome shields tbh

plucky flax
olive ember
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Always dive

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tldr of the game

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I was using voidstrike

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sucked with it

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just decided to play melee psyker

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ez win

devout robin
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there's only one carapace-only enemy and its dealt with with a lot of different melee weapons

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namely everyone anad their mom running mk iv

olive ember
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not if you're a surge staff user

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than you are using the illisi

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because surge staff sucks so you need to cope

devout robin
olive ember
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I rest my case

plucky flax
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Wipes tears with top damage number on surge

mighty olive
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me in quickplays lately

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sooo bad T_T

dim parrot
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but ye it needs buffSitgryn

prime elk
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i actually do way better with surge staff on auric

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than something like voidstrike

zinc phoenix
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Trauma is blessed

dim parrot
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bread staff

zinc phoenix
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I never see other trauma users in game but man do I love that dumb stick now

queen fog
#

I’m one of ‘em but is okay if u don’t see me

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More trauma to spread around Sitgryn

plucky flax
#

Trauma is too hard to play.

prime elk
#

i quite like trauma too

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knocking crushers around like little children

olive ember
#

I just use trauma

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everytime I use the voidstrike I kinda just go "wow I hate this"

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lmao

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also just had a rando matchmake clear of orthus hard which was unexpected

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like no form strike team or anything just one and done

lilac sigil
#

It could use a bit of love. I think the fireball radius on full charge probably deserves to be considerably larger.

olive ember
#

mfw people cry about voidstrike being OP

lilac sigil
#

Lasering through heads with quell-on-weakspot is pretty satisfying, but it's not quite up there with Trauma/Surge for me

olive ember
#

meanwhile plasma gun

prime elk
#

i know people love voidstrike

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and many consider it the best staff

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but i use it the least out of the four staves

plucky flax
#

Surge best. whatthefuck_heresy

prime elk
#

i disliked surge at first, but it has really grown on me ever since i started taking it with venting shriek

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synergizes very well with venting shriek

plucky flax
dim parrot
#

dont let them know no surge sucks, pls buff

plucky flax
#

Trauma sucks the most pls buff especially blaze trauma.

#

Gief t4 blazing spirits.

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Blaze trauma is best when my brain is at 100% capacity.

plucky flax
#

Surge is just super comfy to play given its auto aim nature.

prime elk
#

yeah

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i'm constantly top on specialist kills

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jut because i can respond pretty much instantly to anything that spawns

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(within 24m)

cerulean pollen
#

What is the difference between lightning staff and lightning hands?

prime elk
#

lightning staff focuses on damage, with less cc

dim parrot
#

:o

prime elk
#

lighting hands is reversed

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more cc, less damage

plucky flax
#

Use both for optimal amount of lightning.

dapper shadow
#

almost at lv30 for psyker, whats a good talent build with the lightning staff? I tried all the staffs so far and I gotta say I love the lightning one the most

queen fog
#

Warp rider goes hard for many psyker builds that love peril

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Extra damage for just having peril built

cerulean pollen
#

Im currently level 26 and I feel like just spamming lightning hands and bubble can carry many groups

prime elk
#

should always take warp rider anyway

shadow wigeon
shy prairie
dapper shadow
#

ive been trying out smite/brainburst, empowered psionics and venting shriek with the lightning staff, both are pretty fun especially the super fast brainburst

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infinite cc with smite, very huge on demand ST damage with bb

prime elk
#

i don't use melee or blitzes, don't need to

dapper shadow
#

ooh

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I'll try that

prime elk
#

though it's prob adviseable to utilize them if you need to

dapper shadow
#

yeah of course lol

prime elk
#

this is mostly just to see how far i can get on auric maestrom with only surge staff and nothing else

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well and venting shriek

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that's very important too

dapper shadow
#

and with all the stacks venting shriek's cd is massively reduced so its fun

prime elk
#

yeah

shadow wigeon
prime elk
#

it's a nice synergy

shadow wigeon
prime elk
#

i just put it together based on my experience without looking at other guides

shadow wigeon
#

This includes Kinetic Resonance for boss damage

rare arrow
rare arrow
#

“10 minutes up hill both ways”

zinc phoenix
#

I got the dumb hat 😂

dapper shadow
#

I feel like quietude gives me more toughness than warp expenditure though

rare arrow
dapper shadow
#

Are both about the same, or is one usually better than the other

rare arrow
#

Every time I see it I’m just sad we couldn’t get a nice beta cosmetic

zinc phoenix
rare arrow
prime elk
#

so i'm generating a shit ton of peril every second

rare arrow
#

If you’re quelling you likely don’t need to be healing toughness as wel

dapper shadow
#

one is in combat and one is usually while backing off 🤔

rare arrow
#

Since you’re safe enough to quell

dapper shadow
#

right

rare arrow
#

WE allows you to heal while counter attacking

shadow wigeon
prime elk
#

either could work tbf

rare arrow
#

So they’re just different in how you want to play them

prime elk
#

yeah quietude works well with shriek

rare arrow
#

They’re both very pickable talents

plucky flax
#

I run my own version of surge smite too.

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6 warp charges.

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More creeping flames.

lilac sigil
#

Presumably you get Quietude toughness from Transfer Peril (quell on weakspot on staff) too, right?

plucky flax
#

I have quietude and mettle to generate toughness.

shadow wigeon
#

Don't forget to use L1 (bolt attack) on your Surge staff as well, it's very strong.

cerulean seal
#

hey guys, quick question.

Does Seer's Presence (10% CD reduction on all abilities) affect Kinetic Flayer Passive CD ( passive 10% of a Brain Burst on)? Its marked as "Blitz" in the Talent tree icon, so thought I should ask to be certain.

queen fog
#

No just ability cooldowns

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Aka default bind F

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If it effected kinetic flayer I haven’t noticed I rock seers with bb all the time

cerulean seal
queen fog
#

Np glad to clear up confusion

cerulean seal
queen fog
junior linden
#

Using the weapon customization mod for the first time cause I wanted to try a sight on the columnus and ended up making a Normal Regular Gun

queen fog
#

I.e when the gas cloud hits them rather than when they’re burning

junior linden
#

Basically

cerulean seal
queen fog
#

Of course pal, may the knowledge help with many purgin times thumbsup_ogryn

dapper shadow
#

ok just played a match with only surge force staff and bb for bosses

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god its fun

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havent gotten all the talent points yet though

#

elites die so fast

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while being stunned

queen fog
#

took way too long to get this image but it works KEKW_ogryn

prime elk
#

surge is just so much nicer to use

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esp against targets that are moving around

#

everything about surge is fast, just very nice to use

junior linden
#

End of the day as long as you aren't griefing and you put in the damage all the staves are good imo

hasty breach
#

so. First Target. Does it apply its damage mod even if you ONLY hit one target? it seems strange to do extra damage to a single target only if you hit another target after it.

prime elk
spice veldt
#

applies its damage mod regardless of targets hit

#

the description for it is just wrongfully specific

clear wagon
#

im the big poppa on this server

junior linden
#

I like void strike since I'm used to plasma vet and it feels like how I wish the plasma gun felt but also I'm just currently riding the high that is columnus scrier's gaze

clear wagon
#

nobody uses that

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maybe 1 person

junior linden
#

Yeah it's me

clear wagon
#

shiet

junior linden
#

Gun.

clear wagon
#

i just melee

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everything

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on every class

junior linden
#

"but em, if you're going to just use a gun Psyker, why not just play vet?" Because Vet doesn't have the duelists sword

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Extremely satisfying poke

clear wagon
#

i think a lot of darktide players are high on marihuana

junior linden
#

I think if they were, some of the chats here would be a lot calmer

clear wagon
#

do u smoke the good kush?

junior linden
#

I cannot disclose such information in a public setting. I only share food pics in the ogryn channel.

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😉

clear wagon
#

i understand you WINK

hasty breach
#

the idea for putting unyielding on the catachan dagger is to hit the bleed stacks on bosses, yea?

cold ivy
#

i think, but am not 100% sure, that it's just for the damage because the dagger does a looot of damage on hit without bleed

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iirc most of the "meta builds" for the dagger don't run bleed blessings because by the time bleed would stack up to appreciable levels, the thing you're stabbing should have already died

distant roost
#

Yea

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Knife main dmg > bleed

plucky flax
#

Bleed gud

clear zenith
#

finally tried trauma blaze build in the psykarium and.... it's crap 😄

stone canyon
#

Disrupt Destiny marked enemies, how do i know which one are marked?

#

Honestly have no idea how that thing works at all

dawn spoke
#

They glow blue, you can't miss it

plucky flax
prime elk
#

and you can see marked enemies through walls and shit

#

hard to miss once you see it for the first time

rare arrow
rare arrow
#

Though all staves have a place

subtle tulip
#

Trauma is funny, virtually become untouchable to anything except naders and snipers

rare arrow
#

Spreading fire also just clears everything

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I avoided trained forever because on paper and in the psyk it sucked.

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Then I took it into AD missions and Maelstrom and started pushing a million damage

spice veldt
#

and also because it does suck at lower levels because of the silly stat scaling it has

plucky flax
#

Nearly 1 mil damage with default scoreboard. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Most important stat was 555 plasteels though.

spice veldt
#

🥲

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brings many tears to my eyes

lunar quail
#

does true aim passive trigger if you send a voidstrike attack right through the heads of a bunch of dudes walking in a line

plucky flax
#

243 smol shooters killed more than the vet. Pogryn

rare arrow
spice veldt
#

ye true aim can proc multiple times per attack

plucky flax
rare arrow
#

Also, 44 minutes is a long ass mission lol

summer prairie
#

pretty sure it usually does, maybe your server had issues

plucky flax
#

I'm not as good as you lucian. Sitgryn

rare arrow
lunar quail
spice veldt
#

crits are rolled when you attack, so the same projectile will stay the same, and your next attack is guaranteed to crit if you got 5 stacks from the previous attack

lunar quail
#

ok. thank you

plucky flax
#

This scoreboard here is super screwed with trauma. 1.3k enemies killed and I had 500k damage with oven.

rare arrow
#

Roll a void strike into a crowd of heads and just chain crit

plucky flax
#

Wait wrong one.

rare arrow
#

Take surge and throw two bowling balls at a time

summer prairie
#

I went through my history and didn't have anything like that, I think it's more likely some kind of server issue than the scoreboard only sometimes being wrong

plucky flax
#

This one is weird scoreboard. Really low damage imo for the kills for me.

rare arrow
#

I need to test surge on voidstrike again.

summer prairie
#

or logging issue

plucky flax
#

I've never gotten that low damage with over 1.2k kills.

#

The vet with 461 kills has 100k damage less than me.

summer prairie
#

default scoreboard damage is low too anyway

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and we know that definitely calculates things wrong

plucky flax
#

You reckon? It seems true to me.

summer prairie
#

well it can't be true

plucky flax
#

Oven is sorta low across the board.

summer prairie
#

because it's not accurate

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it would have to be accurate accidentally

plucky flax
#

But I notice with trauma in particular oven is quite wonky.

rare arrow
#

Yea Oven seems scuffed lol

plucky flax
#

Maybe my blaze trauma playstyle is weird. whatthefuck_heresy

summer prairie
#

I did some testing in the grinder and oven was always accurate there, default wasn't

#

things are a bit different on a server but

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if it's not having issue it shouldn't matter

rare arrow
#

That’s a big differential there between base board and ovenZ

#

Both can’t be right

summer prairie
#

the default is always wrong with a weapon that tends to overkill one-shot everything

plucky flax
#

I do well with oven on surge staff.

#

Surge is just op.

summer prairie
#

one poxwalker with trauma

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granted once do huge aoe to everything with the bigger explosion, the default will calculate fine

#

Getting even more details soon

plucky flax
spice veldt
#

lmao power bi?

summer prairie
#

Very important stats

spice veldt
#

OwO

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i do think i'd be interested in knowing the percentage of time I spend dodging/sliding/sprinting throughout a match

sly comet
#

I need help.

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I've never been able to gain more than 3 warp charges, and not a single tutorial I find explains how to gain them.
I know I simply need to not use brain burst to save those warp charges, but otherwise, I don't know how to get them.
It just seems to happen randomly during gameplay.

cold ivy
#

uhhhhh

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are you running enhanced psionics instead?

spice veldt
#

warp charges are from the Warp Siphon keystone (leftmost keystone)
You get them from elite/special kills by default
You can use your blitz (brain burst) without losing warp charges. It's your ult (shriek/shield/gaze) that consumes warp charges

cold ivy
#

if brain burst consumes your "charges" then those are probably enhanced psionics (center keystone) instead of warp siphon (left keystone)

spice veldt
#

damn i didn't make that connection

sly comet
cold ivy
#

you need to be running warp siphon

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only warp siphon gives you warp charges

summer prairie
#

also you should give up on it for a while and just play more

sly comet
#

I'm level 28, and have been playing Psyker for less than a week.

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Warp Siphon.

cold ivy
sly comet
#

God Bless America.

#

I feel dumb.

cold ivy
#

So basically, kill elites and specialists at least once every 25s so your warp charges don't decay, and don't use your combat ability ever (because it'll consume the charges)

or use psychic vampire/the other soulblaze one so you can also generate charges from trash kills

sly comet
#

Thank you. I'll rearrange my talent treee.

summer prairie
#

It's going to be easier to achieve when you can play harder content

sly comet
#

Heresy with hightened elite spawns, yes?

summer prairie
#

at least auric yes

cold ivy
#

auric damnation is prolly your safest bet, hi intensity shock troop spawns a bajillion specials/elites

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but pretty sure it's doable on heresy as long as it has spawn modifiers for specials

sly comet
#

I'm not quite at that level yet. I've gotten through one Auric Damnation mission, and that was with Ogryn. I'm still learning Psyker.
But thank y'all for the help. I'll practice.

#

If I take the talent that stacks 6 Warp Charges, will I have to maintain 6, or only 4?

sly comet
#

It will be mine.

formal mason
#

I've been stuck on warp battery 264/300 for a couple days now

sly comet
#

We got this.

strong gulch
#

No new blaze trauma today. I'll just do a rending build and store in my inventory indefinitely.

nimble burrow
#

i used rending and rapid charge before the talent update, i loved it

#

i kinda miss turning crushers into swiss cheese

static needle
#

Which weapon is better out of the 2: DS mk V or catachan knife mk VI

cold ivy
#

what do you plan on doing with the weapon?

grand fox
#

is the dueling saber any good? Lookin to grab a new sword for my psyker but taking my FS is just so good its hard for me to part with it

static needle
#

killing enemies

static needle
spice veldt
static needle
static needle
static needle
#

Can running unarmored on knife actually be good?

grand fox
grand fox
#

unarmored enemies die so quick to bleed already

static needle
#

hmm

spice veldt
static needle
#

im doing scriers with it too btw

static needle
spice veldt
#

yeah, though i'd personally just lean into the single-target aspect of duellies

#

now that it no longer gives 2x damage

cerulean pollen
#

Do I need to get the killing blow for this to proc?

spice veldt
#

yeah

#

though there's a mild leniency mechanic where you get credit for an ally's kill if you interacted with the enemy previously within a very short timeframe

fluid aspen
cerulean pollen
#

So could I "cheat" by using lightning hands to just tag everything?

harsh urchin
#

it was there for BB

fluid aspen
#

Yeah, it used to work like that

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And then 1 step forwards, 2 steps back

cerulean pollen
#

So it dosen't work anymore?

harsh urchin
#

eh i dont think they intentionally removed that interaction

#

it's just mainly now WC are decoupled from BB

fluid aspen
#

No reason not to keep that interaction though

harsh urchin
#

sure, but what i'm saying is that they didn't intentionally remove it

fluid aspen
#

BB still proccing the on-kill stuff related to it, if the target dies while being charged

harsh urchin
#

it just happened as part of the tree rework

lethal lagoon
fluid aspen
#

Nope

lethal lagoon
#

Meaning, you BB a target, use peril, someone else get's the kill, you don't get the related on-kill effect if there is one?

fluid aspen
#

Correct

lethal lagoon
#

Are you sure your peril increased?

#

I mean like the jump of peril from using BB

#

Not the charging

fluid aspen
#

It used to proc on charging though, that's the point

#

Doesn't do that anymore

lethal lagoon
#

No it didn't.

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It would set off your BB early, give you a burst of peril, and give you the proc

fluid aspen
#

And it doesn't do that anymore either

lethal lagoon
#

I remember because the mechanic would fuck up the 100% peril glitch

fluid aspen
#

What's your point here?

lethal lagoon
#

You just said that though?

#

Which is just untrue? So I'm just confused

#

Of course maybe you are right, and I'm a dummy, so I'm just asking.

#

Hoping someone smarter jumps in 🤷‍♂️

fluid aspen
#

You got a warp charge if the target you were charging was killed. Before the rework. There is no interaction with the charged target dying after the rework. You just gained peril and someone else got the kill

lethal lagoon
#

So you still gain peril, but you won't get an EP charge or something if it's an elite? That does blow.

#

My poor BB.... what have they done to him...

shadow wigeon
#

AFAIK You don't lose the EP charge unless your BB goes off, so EP smoothes that problem over a bit.

But without EP, BB is back the the old days. I want to sayt he blue halo isn't as bright a it used to be at least? Just make sure you dont tag your target....

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

i haven't experienced that yet, by sheer virtue of me not having played psyker in a while

burnt sluice
#

w or L

compact thorn
#

More W than L tbh

shadow wigeon
spice veldt
#

my prior knowledge says that interaction should refresh stacks and the leniency kill credit should give stacks, but that knowledge is all very vague now

primal plume
#

What if Smite could be cast with both hands but its Single target only but does a lot of damage?

eager token
#

praise the omnissiah

#

rng suck

#

fix craft fatshark

#

:C

lethal lagoon
#

stamina go zooom

shadow wigeon
#

Or meme staff, run n gun, nexus, stam, and maybe +elites and run around bolting with Mettle speed.

shadow wigeon
eager token
#

i've been fishign for a crit surge staff for a while

rare arrow
rare arrow
eager token
#

damage and chance yeah

rare arrow
#

Crit bonus is bad

#

Crit damage is real bad in DR

#

DT

#

Because of how it’s calculated

#

Which is odd because in most games it’s extremely valuable

shadow wigeon
rare arrow
#

I’d see what the last blessing is, crit perk might be worth taking, but depends

shadow wigeon
rare arrow
#

I’d actually scrap the staff

rare arrow
eager token
#

is a crit build for psyker just not good?

shadow wigeon
rare arrow
#

For example in most games that stat is valuable because with 100 base and 50 from a crit, 10% cd is 15 damage. But in DT, it’s 5

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Psyker crit builds are great

eager token
#

they have a lot of fun traits for crit shit

rare arrow
#

But it’s not for the crit dmg, it’s for the mechanics you proc when you crit

harsh urchin
shadow wigeon
eager token
#

yeah i want to run a crit build that doesn't rely on scriers

rare arrow
#

Yea, just get warp nexus

harsh urchin
#

ye plenty of those

rare arrow
#

And a couple crit nodes, then pick which abilities and stuff you want

burnt sluice
#

w or L

eager token
#

yeah i'm workign with this right now and its doing fine tbh

rare arrow
#

Crit is good on surge because it ups some of the breakpoints,

eager token
#

could swap the crit chance to dmg or something i guess

#

not sure how much the 5% is doing

rare arrow
#

Nah it’s fine as is

shadow wigeon
# eager token praise the omnissiah

If that's your current staff and you have the mats, then i would upgrade this to gold. Just make sure you replace Run n Gun with Terriying barrage BEFORE you consecrate.

burnt sluice
#

w or L

harsh urchin
#

flak would probably serve you better here

rare arrow
#

I wouldn’t upgrade the other to gold unless they have a to. If mats

#

A 67% damage roll is rough

harsh urchin
#

especially since you're already going to be sitting at 40-45% crit baseline

rare arrow
#

Actually changes some breakpoints a. Or sing to the calc

eager token
#

i haven't been having a terrible time one shotting gunners/shotgunners on crit

harsh urchin
#

so going from 45% to 50% isn't going to be a large damage difference

#

so here's the thing

eager token
#

but eh

rare arrow
#

Flak at 25% doesn’t add a breakpoint though

harsh urchin
#

flak will let you one shot them

#

on noncrit

#

with other mechanics from tree

eager token
#

btw do soulblaze ticks crit?

neat pecan
#

What do we think chat?

rare arrow
eager token
harsh urchin
#

can't remember but the guy who's name sounds like boogers has a few videos up testing it

#

you can discord search his videos

#

he tested on gunners, shotgunners, maulers and ragers

rare arrow
#

I have the calc up but can’t find anything flak changes to a ohko

eager token
#

i'm also not running prescience KEKW_ogryn

harsh urchin
#

calc doesn't really apply to psyker staves btw

long wharf
harsh urchin
#

because you have things like wc and pt and rider changing the breakpoints

#

you gotta test it

neat pecan
long wharf
#

or warp flurry

neat pecan
#

Ooh aight, I just found an older staff with it

rare arrow
#

Well I guess unyielding to cara

neat pecan
#

Noted

#

I’m about to bully a crusher mob to death

mighty hatch
#

So is the psyker ability just insta kill for most enemies?

plucky flax
#

Rending shockwave nooooo

neat pecan
mighty hatch
#

Does it become faster after unlocking some things in the skill tree

neat pecan
#

Yes

mighty hatch
#

Cool

#

Probably just stick with veteran for now

spice veldt
#

only two things bolster its speed--kinetic resonance and empowered psionics (middle keystone)

#

it's decisively below-average if you're looking for some single-target

neat pecan
#

So I took the staff into auric

#

We got shafted by a chaos spawn

shadow wigeon
harsh urchin
#

well what's your strategy for killing a spawn

neat pecan
#

Worked wonders on the crushers and bulwarks tho

neat pecan
harsh urchin
#

with what

neat pecan
#

The staff, and whatever the teamates have

harsh urchin
#

yeah if you're left clicking a boss to death

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with your staff

#

you're gonna be wiping quite often to bosses

#

unless your team carries you through aurics

static needle
#

Is there a better perk to combo with maniac? I mean, the 2 stamina allows me to not have to pick a stamina curio tbh

rare arrow
static needle
#

ye but i have other knives where it's possible

#

ive heard plenty of people running unyielding for boss dmg

#

but idk it seems like using the gun on the gunpsyker would be better for damage

earnest laurel
#

What perks are best on Illisi Mk V Blaze Force Sword

rare arrow
#

Unyielding, cara, and manic are the 3 main picks for it

tulip kettle
#

maniac and flak is better imo

rare arrow
tulip kettle
#

ROCK AND STOOOONE

rare arrow
#

Flak isn’t greT on the MK6, it doesn’t change any breakpoints

earnest laurel
tulip kettle
#

it depends on the roll

earnest laurel
#

I have 4 % crit chance, wanna keep it for souldrend or wahtever its called

tulip kettle
#

idk lucian is the expert

rare arrow
#

I just use the calculator to see

earnest laurel
#

i picked maniac , ty

tulip kettle
#

i just try stuff out in psykanium 😄

rare arrow
#

This too for actual testing haha. Wish deep rock had a psyk

#

Love to test stuff there

tulip kettle
#

but those trash mobs with flak helmets can sometimes not die on my illisi

static needle
tulip kettle
#

stamina for what?

#

blocking generally costs peril

rare arrow
#

I do not

#

What Shizle said

static needle
#

ye but if youre running scriers gaze with movement speed talent, isnt it pretty good tho?

rare arrow
#

We have near infinite block, so I don’t run stamina curios

#

I run 3 toughness

static needle
#

for sprint speed?

rare arrow
#

Well, 2 Toughness and HP

static needle
#

and better push consistency

rare arrow
#

But that’s cause I’m unlucky

tulip kettle
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if youre running a forcer sword with scries

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why not run a duelling sword instead?

static needle
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what

tulip kettle
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and be a real chad

static needle
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im not running force sword

static needle
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knife 6

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super fun

rare arrow
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You don’t need to run forward that fast. That would be for some lower difficulty stuff, in aurich Damnation normal sprinting speed and efficiency is plenty fast enough

tulip kettle
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but we are talking about the force sword and stamina...

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and why theres no need for stamina perks or curios

rare arrow
static needle
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me and lucian were talking about knife and whether u should use stam curio

harsh urchin
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stamina is for sprinting not blocking

rare arrow
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I think it’s the 2 convos going on got mixed up

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We were talking about knives and force swords at the same time

tulip kettle
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well anyway i have a question

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do you know of any way to buff brainburst to 1 shot maulers?

rare arrow
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No

tulip kettle
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does it inherit the blessings from your equipped weapon do you know?

rare arrow
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Though EP gets it close

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It does not

tulip kettle
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thats a shame

rare arrow
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At least it doesn’t for any blessing I know of

thick valley
static needle
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but running +2 stam perk instead

tulip kettle
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its the heavy attack on mk 3 that does that, no?

rare arrow
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What blitz do you run on a Knifeker? Assail?

thick valley
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Knife + voidstrike could be so fun

static needle
thick valley
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Smite

rare arrow
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Nah, smite slows you down

static needle
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and i run mk 7 semi auto headhunter

rare arrow
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Knife go fast

static needle
thick valley
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Smite halts carapace waves

tulip kettle
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isnt assail a meme in damnation?

rare arrow
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Carapace too slow for knife

static needle
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u want assail for quick and imprecice gunner killing while running around

rare arrow
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Knife go brrrrrrrr

static needle
tulip kettle
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okay, thanks, is it unaimed throws? and how many to kill a gunner?

static needle
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2 if you have perfect timing i think

tulip kettle
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i literally didnt try assail in damnation at all

static needle
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1 aimed shot

tulip kettle
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okay thats not terrible at all then

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you need EP?

static needle
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assail is dope, you often dont even need the recharge cooldown reduction talent

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nope

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its more just a utility tool

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as a 'grenade' slot should be

tulip kettle
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yeah for sure