it also stops at carapace
#psyker-class
willow hazel
long wharf
pre-patch 13 it had a cleave of 4
limber silo
How high is infinite? Because plasma gun has way more pierce than void
long wharf
plasma has a cleave of 100
orchid nest
crushers have 20 mass iirc so yeah it shouldn't cleave past one
limber silo
yeah, pretty sure void has a max cleave that's a bit lower
long wharf
crushers have a hit mass of 25, I believe
long wharf
yall are going to make me stop what I'm working on to open up the psykward?
long wharf
I'm opening up Aussiemon's github repo of the Darktide Lua now
past light
what stats to primarily aim for in a voidstrike staff?
rolled a 374 but blast radius is at 62
lethal lagoon
what stats to primarily aim for in a voidstrike staff?
blast raidus is dumpy 
past light
nice
limber silo
yall are going to make me stop what I'm working on to open up the psykward?
Psykward, you love krabby patties, don't you?
orchid nest
I'll let you find out the exact amount from the repo but it seems like 10-12 based off my test. groaners keep moving around
bleak tulip
iirc cara is hard coded to stop void regardless of mass
limber silo
I need to photoshop a psyker helmet onto squidward now
long wharf
Psykward, you love krabby patties, don't you?
only when they're made from Patrick
oh ho
there's a weapon_trait for "forcestaff_p3" which is the surge staff
templates.weapon_trait_bespoke_forcestaff_p3_electrocuted_targets_receive_increased_damage_debuff
limber silo
I may be stupid, but Perilous Combustion and Wildfire seem worthless for purge staff
willow hazel
PC doesn't proc from soulblaze damage
limber silo
I apply WAY more stacks by using vent and the actual staff
long wharf
that may explain the increasing damage by consecutive surge staff charges
limber silo
PC doesn't proc from soulblaze damage
yes it does
lethal lagoon
I may be stupid, but Perilous Combustion and Wildfire seem worthless for purge s...
Trust your first instinct
limber silo
PC procs from death, the only thing that matters is that you killed it
willow hazel
today is just misinformation day isn't it
limber silo
Trust your first instinct <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
It's just hilarious that soulblaze staff doesn't want soulblaze perks
willow hazel
PC can't proc from soulblaze. It can from bleeds though
long wharf
that's a super easy test
limber silo
today is just misinformation day isn't it
DO YOU WANNA DO THIS? I JUST FOUND OUT HOW TO USE NVIDIA OVERLAY (thx @long wharf ) and I will wreck you now
lethal lagoon
Ima go test it, that seems very contrary to the point of PC
long wharf
PC shouldn't care how you get the kill
willow hazel
DO YOU WANNA DO THIS? I JUST FOUND OUT HOW TO USE NVIDIA OVERLAY (thx <@5240392...
play a game?
limber silo
No, just record PC proccing from soulblaze
willow hazel
go ahead
orchid nest
perilous is still decent for purge. it procs a decent amount in the stream, goes over purgs max stacks, and you can always proc it with melee
willow hazel
please show me
willow hazel
perilous is still decent for purge. it procs a decent amount in the stream, goes...
also one of the reasons Assail + Purg is a good combo
orchid nest
yeah that too
long wharf
though, I could see FartShack being afraid of soulblaze self-propagating with PC
FartShack is afraid of everything
lethal lagoon
It's just hilarious that soulblaze staff doesn't want soulblaze perks
I said your first ๐
Also yeah, obviously PC procs from soulbalze, I feel like a moron for going to test it.(I don't understand the world anymore)
This chat always get's me to test obvious stuff
lethal lagoon
Are you sure you have pc on?
willow hazel
I think if you paint the enemy when they die it will proc
lethal lagoon
I let it tick down.
limber silo
Are you sure you have pc on?
yes
lethal lagoon
And the best part of PC is that it procs other PCs
limber silo
If I kill the rager while shooting, PC procs
long wharf
aw man, projectile definitions aren't in lua
willow hazel
if only
limber silo
but if I let ticks kill, no spread
limber silo
And the best part of PC is that it procs other PCs
show me your vid
this would be weird
orchid nest
aw man, projectile definitions aren't in lua
It was hard to tell exactly the amount since groaners move around some and I didn't feel like testing for a long time but it cleaved around 10-12 groaners and stopped there
long wharf
what about multiple crushers in a line?
lethal lagoon
I wonder if the first time I got it to work was just the talent tree being buggy
willow hazel
what about multiple crushers in a line?
it stops at the first
long wharf
it's possible what I'm remembering was a patch 13 bug
when void was just insane
the patch 13 patch notes said "removed cleave limit on void secondary attack"
orchid nest
you're probably just noticing surge since it's separate
bleak tulip
iirc it still had a limit
long wharf
you're probably just noticing surge since it's separate
that's possible
bleak tulip
but it felt like there wasnt one because it was so much higher than before
limber silo
I wonder if the first time I got it to work was just the talent tree being buggy
So far, bleed and burn apply PC, but not Soulblaze
fml
long wharf
the Darktide Lua doesn't have projectile behavior defined
willow hazel
I feel like the infinite cleave thing was just a myth
yeah they specifically made PC not proc PC
bleak tulip
pretty sure thats just someone overreacting and getting corrected immediately
lethal lagoon
^ indeed, that's me
willow hazel
Only use PC + Purge if you plan on using melee or blitz for kills.
bleak tulip
surge does however also gets its own limit, which is how you can technically get 24 in one
limber silo
An elite group will die so much faster
Well I max out blaze stacks faster than PC kills anything
willow hazel
PC goes above the cap
limber silo
so PC is a non-perk in that matter
willow hazel
PC and Vent cap are 32, purg is 15-16
orchid nest
I think cleave values are defined in the damage profiles in the repo
lethal lagoon
pretty sure thats just someone overreacting and getting corrected immediately
Tbf I have been tricked into testing quite a few things.
limber silo
really?
bleak tulip
does PC get triggered by purg right click direct damage at least
or is just hard coded to not trigger on all SB damage
limber silo
or is just hard coded to not trigger on all SB damage
PC triggers from purge staff attacks
just not sb itself
long wharf
okay, so there is a player_projectile_tempaltes.lua file
with projectile_templates.force_staff_ball_heavy
lethal lagoon
Purg damage can definitely trigger PC
long wharf
that has under impact properties "delete_on_hit_mass = true"
bleak tulip
I guess its not totally pointless then, would be nice to be able to adjust the stack counter to show a different color over a certain stack for testing
long wharf
I'm not seeing any hard values on hit mass or cleave
bleak tulip
to see how much this might happen
but I leave that to the purg players to deliberate
limber silo
Honestly the more I test it, the less worthwhile PC seems
long wharf
PC is still good at higher difficulties
you need PC to fight sheer enemy densities in mixed crowds
limber silo
it's low damage unless you manage to kill large amount of specials/elites, but then what's the point? They're already dead
orchid nest
@long wharf I think they are under scripts/damage/damage_profiles
lethal lagoon
1 talent point adding about ~10%~ to your total scoreboard damage, and it being huge burst during the worst moments, is always going to be worth it ๐คทโโ๏ธ
long wharf
the horde around them may not be
bleak tulip
pc is fine, just not for purg I guess
willow hazel
The PC interaction is why I think purg is the 3rd best soulblaze staff
limber silo
not only that, but 4m radius is tiny
bleak tulip
its not that bad in hordes
limber silo
I can't even get a shotgunner to proc it on a rager diagonally in psyk
bleak tulip
especially since it applies the stacks to everything, not share the stacks around
long wharf
eh, I'll dig into this more after dinner
orchid nest
sorry I missed one there, scripts/settings
bleak tulip
I can't even get a shotgunner to proc it on a rager diagonally in psyk
you can see it work well in the specialist pile
limber silo
its not that bad in hordes
I have to kill 3 specials or elites to even do reasonable damage with the sb
bleak tulip
I mean 6 stacks is enough to kill trash
limber silo
at that point why don't I just swing my sword at the horde, it'll kill it faster
bleak tulip
and doing some damage to everything else is good
limber silo
I took it off my gunker build, didn't even notice it
lethal lagoon
Isn't PC a big reason why psyker columbus mk5 out dpses veteran mk5?
bleak tulip
seems like a mistake but you do you lmao
willow hazel
Every 10 points Purgatus damage is worth 1 damage on left click
bleak tulip
did you check scoreboard for warpfire damage at least
orchid nest
PC is mainly for raising max stacks when you already apply stacks with something else. blaze trauma crit, creeping flames. you're at 9. stacks adding ontop of that starts to get very valuable on elite packs
bleak tulip
its not nothing
willow hazel
Isn't PC a big reason why psyker columbus mk5 out dpses veteran mk5?
I think its the total buffs in scirers
bleak tulip
and its only 1 point
willow hazel
but PC helps
lethal lagoon
I think its the total buffs in scirers
Uhhh, vet can grab every single buff on their tree on top of the damage ability ๐คทโโ๏ธ
being able to horde clear while elite clearing kinda huge I'd say
willow hazel
It's not as high as Scrier's + DD
limber silo
did you check scoreboard for warpfire damage at least
Damage means nothing unless it's on larger enemies. Kills and breakpoints matter.
willow hazel
but also Columus Psyker has about 100% crit with True Aim, which procs Mettle and EE
limber silo
If I can kill an enemy with one heavy, or I can kill an enemy with 1 heavy and 3 stacks of soulblaze, the soulblaze did nothing
bleak tulip
damage makes breakpoints easier, especially in a world of spammy guns, psykers and dots
also two specials or elite kills hits the breakpoint for hordes near them which is good enough
limber silo
Don't build dots around breakpoints
bleak tulip
especially on gunker where youre lacking some trash clear
willow hazel
two PC procs kills every normal enemy. Letting you kill the ones that aren't blue
limber silo
The only dot breakpoint that matters is 6 stacks kills gunner patrols
orchid nest
soulblaze from PC definitely helps horde clear because you still have to contend with cleave and it reducing your damage
limber silo
everything else is just "point at it untill it dies"
bleak tulip
everything else is just "point at it untill it dies"
but damage doesnt matter
oke
maybe im too enlightened void brain but trickle damage on shit lets me charge less
making me kill better
limber silo
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/119077695788...
You build the dots around applying them faster
bleak tulip
no shit
im not saying taking PC is you building deliberately to hit breakpoints genius
limber silo
If you apply them faster, you kill them faster. I'm not gonna build a fire build around "If i get this node it requires one less tick to kill enemies"
bleak tulip
its free damage, and damage does matter even if you think BPs are the only thing
you aint playing in a vacuum
where everyone deliberately clicks on enemies al lthe time
limber silo
You just apply as many as possible as fast as possible because ammo isn't a thing, and you have a flamethrower, go nuts
bleak tulip
shit like aoe damage, cleave and whatnot
limber silo
PC applies stacks slower than the staff and shriek, so I don't care about it that much
lethal lagoon
It's not as high as Scrier's + DD
You can't stack DD in the pysch right?
limber silo
who cares about 3 stacks on kill when I have already applied way more than 3 to way more enemies than PC could ever do? I'll use the node somewhere else that matters more
limber silo
You can't stack DD in the pysch right?
nope
orchid nest
if you apply a lot of soulblaze already it's valuable because it goes up to a 31 hard cap. if you don't apply much it's free damage. fatshark thought it was good enough to nerf it
limber silo
DD doesn't work in psyk for some reason
bleak tulip
why are you still talking about purg
we're talking about PC
in general
we already established it doesnt work well with purg
limber silo
we're talking about PC
I'm talking about the usefulness of PC on purge, which I am fully convinced is not worth it
additionally, I just don't think PC is worth it period
bleak tulip
then why tf you arguing with a wall
we already agree
pc generally is worth, see my previous statements
lethal lagoon
orchid nest
PC is fine for purg if you have assail or melee a lot with it. goes over max stacks and all that. there is a huge incentive to melee with purg anyways at a point since blessings boost it. like having an uncanny/slaughterer deimos out and your soulblaze getting 40% more power and full armor piercing
bleak tulip
not only does not everyone play around every BP, but with random aoe's cleave and shit in the mix sometimes shit just dies from 4 sources of "useless damage" as you might put it, because it wasnt picked with the intent to hit a BP, yet it works
pc is good, just not on purg I guess
you can make the argument that taking it on gunker is a waste of a point to get to the node, thats fine
lethal lagoon
Obviously I have no idea how much it adds to your scoreboard on purg, but for normal builds it's usually like 10%ish. And it's most effective during huge elite hordes which when you are most in danger.
bleak tulip
unless youre also ass ailing
limber silo
unless youre also ass ailing
I have a major problem with assail: The nodes under it are bad
bleak tulip
god forbid someone misses the weak spot on a target and the SB trickle helps them kill
I dont know what gunkers do I guess youre all ass ailers?
in which case sure
limber silo
I don't run assail with gunker because it prevents me from getting psykinetic's aura
ornate hamlet
Isn't assail uh
orchid nest
what nodes? mind in motion yeah. but malefic is built with assail in mind quick swapping in melee to help your horde clear if you have a gun
ornate hamlet
Right above the node that gives warp damage on non-warp kill
And also coming with 10% toughness damage reduction if you want the crit aura
bleak tulip
Right above the node that gives warp damage on non-warp kill
I guess gunkers dont quick switch
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
ornate hamlet
They're some of the best nodes you can get with assail tbh
limber silo
Right above the node that gives warp damage on non-warp kill
Well if I am using a non-warp ranged and melee weapon the only thing it benefits is assail which is already getting outperformed by both my weapons, so why have it?
ornate hamlet
To use assail
You can clean rooms of shooters with it, attack ragers and do all sort of stuff that doesn't require aim
orchid nest
because assail is already best used quick swapping since it procs/uses a lot of weapon blessings
limber silo
To use assail
But if I use assail, then my peril is dedicated to that instead of Scrier's Gaze
limber silo
SG has a cooldown
Good thing I have psykinetic's aura
so I have about 8 seconds of not being in SG
ornate hamlet
You can use scrier's gaze for dealing with large targets and doing other kinds of funnies, but I do agree it feels weird with assail
It's like they're both fighting for attention from the player
I ended up using the stun wall when I was using assail
limber silo
Assail and SG just seem not useful together
ornate hamlet
Then I wanted scrier's gaze and switched to smite
bleak tulip
every time I see a gunker go "MUH GAZE" I see their asses cap at 15 stacks, literally only getting half value
the only time I see people get 30 is when they actually manually quell, which feels like shit
unless youre a weird staff gaze bozo
limber silo
every time I see a gunker go "MUH GAZE" I see their asses cap at 15 stacks, lite...
Half value?
bleak tulip
doesnt gaze stack to 30
limber silo
Just pressing the button gets you way more value
SG is just super buff with a low cd
bleak tulip
what are you even talking about
strong gulch
@plucky flax I too have a new mouse. I got the wired version because I'm cheap.
The old one was double clicking and miss clicks. ๐ฅฒ
plucky flax
Wired noooooo 
spice veldt
i'd use gaze pretty much only for the crit chance
limber silo
Everytime I have SG up I am way faster, way tougher, and way kill-ier no matter how many stacks i have
strong gulch
Wired noooooo <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
bleak tulip
I mean of the two things gaze does, crit does seem like the more valuable one
limber silo
53% toughness damage resist just for pressing f
bleak tulip
10% damage isnt nothing but it aint exactly "roast my nuts on a fire" type hot shit
lethal lagoon
<@150967101836886016> I too have a new mouse. I got the wired version because I'...
๐ฆ
limber silo
10% damage isnt nothing but it aint exactly "roast my nuts on a fire" type hot s...
remember that DD finesse basically doubles all the damage from SG
orchid nest
I mean tbh you should have a wired mouse if you don't move it away from your computer. good ones have not noticeable wires anyways and wireless ones always develop some kind of problem earlier. I guess if you don't mind buying new ones though it doesn't matter
plucky flax
https://tenor.com/view/network-confused-john-travolta-wire-gif-5799547
Wired is still good yus. 
limber silo
since finesse is added at the end of damage calc
lethal lagoon
I switched from a wired about a few months ago, and I get phantom wire problems
Where I'll move the mouse funny, expecting the wire
But there isn't one
limber silo
I hate wireless tech
hasty breach
remember that DD finesse basically doubles all the damage from SG
SG?
spice veldt
it won't be really double unless you're running double stacks
hasty breach
scrier's?
limber silo
Scrier's gaze
spice veldt
and scrier's gaze is only a 20% increase in crit chance
limber silo
What I'm saying is the finesse damage has no diminshing returns on damage due to how it's calculated
spice veldt
another thing is that psyker's toughness DR nodes is multiplicative
limber silo
I multiplies the effectiveness of your other buffs
bleak tulip
Wired is still good yus. <:thumbs:1067908549608472667>
literally dont feel a difference myself between the two so I just get wired stuff 
spice veldt
what do you mean by diminishing returns
strong gulch
Wired is still good yus. <:thumbs:1067908549608472667>
So far it's good. Getting used to it is going to take awhile. I've lived in the same place for 6 years and still can't remember which switch does what... so it will be awhile.
spice veldt
it's multiplicative with other effects like most other things in the game
and stacks additively with itself
lethal lagoon
another thing is that psyker's toughness DR nodes is multiplicative
Do you mean like each 5% toughness DR node is multiplicative? Or all of them combined with another sources?
zinc phoenix
https://tenor.com/view/network-confused-john-travolta-wire-gif-5799547
Every 90s data center ๐คฆโโ๏ธ
spice veldt
each of them is multiplicative
and including One with the Warp
and the toughness dr talent of scrier's gaze
bleak tulip
only ogryn gets the additive toughness res 
orchid nest
the 5% passive small ones should be additive no? I believe syllogism checked that just recently. but all the other non passive nodes are multiplicative
limber silo
each of them is multiplicative
I think you're using the opposite word of what you mean
bleak tulip
the 5% passive small ones should be additive no? I believe syllogism checked tha...
mult, last I heard
plucky flax
So far it's good. Getting used to it is going to take awhile. I've lived in the ...
Oh you have 502 now?
spice veldt
I think you're using the opposite word of what you mean
no i'm not
lethal lagoon
I think you're using the opposite word of what you mean
For armor DR it's backwards compared to damage.
Multiplicative is good for damage, bad for armor
zinc phoenix
I used to have a picture of an old data center with cords going everywhere at head height and one bit of it being used as a laundry line by one of the guys who worked there
spice veldt
5x +5% toughness dr = 1 - (1 - 0.05) ^ 5 toughness dr
zinc phoenix
5x +5% toughness dr = 1 - (1 - 0.05) ^ 5 toughness dr
Like if you reee every time
spice veldt
the 5% passive small ones should be additive no? I believe syllogism checked tha...
pretty sure he was just thinking of ogryn at the time
limber silo
5x +5% toughness dr = 1 - (1 - 0.05) ^ 5 toughness dr
Okay, so if I take one dr node, I take 95% damage right? How much damage do I take with two nodes
spice veldt
crab on the other hand said that they're all multiplicative since they're 95% in the code
orchid nest
yeah maybe. so ogryns are additive but psykers aren't? tf
spice veldt
Okay, so if I take one dr node, I take 95% damage right? How much damage do I t...
whatever 1 - (1 - 0.05) ^ 2 is
bleak tulip
Okay, so if I take one dr node, I take 95% damage right? How much damage do I t...
more than 90%
spice veldt
or well, (1 - 0.05) ^ 2
orchid nest
I saw crab say they are additive so now I'm really confused. although he was talking about ogryn
spice veldt
only ogryn gets the additive stuff
limber silo
more than 90%
Thank you sherlock
orchid nest
that's funny
limber silo
whatever 1 - (1 - 0.05) ^ 2 is
97.5?
spice veldt
Okay, so if I take one dr node, I take 95% damage right? How much damage do I t...
you'll take 90.25% damage with 2x +5% toughness dr nodes
hasty breach
that's multiplicative and not as good as additive
orchid nest
so ogryns get all theirs additive and still also have the baseline what..? 36% or something?
bleak tulip
yes thats what diminishing returns means
limber silo
Okay, so the term I think is more clear is hyperbolic scaling
lethal lagoon
so ogryns get all theirs additive and still also have the baseline what..? 36% o...
Ogryn toughness take 10 damage fire tick
orchid nest
Ogryn toughness take 10 damage fire tick <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
also just casually taking sniper shots without health damage in full toughness setups 
limber silo
Ogryn toughness take 10 damage fire tick <:thumbsup_ogryn:1063452727302180926>
fire ticks get stronger over time
bleak tulip
heres the next 5% node
willow hazel
so each node is less useful than the last
Additively. Each node still effectively is 5% less damage
limber silo
Additively. Each node still effectively is 5% less damage
True, the return is still good enough that's it's effectively linear scaling
willow hazel
Yup. If it didn't work this way it would be too strong to stack
lethal lagoon
fire ticks get stronger over time
I'm aware, it still doesn't do a lot on a toughness feel no pain Ogryn.
limber silo
Yup. If it didn't work this way it would be too strong to stack
clearly they don't want anyone getting 100% toughness damage reduction
bleak tulip
feel no pain ogryn also gets a massive amount of reduction is the thing
bleak tulip
the moment the multiplicative starts to hurt is when you get to the other things like this
limber silo
true
orchid nest
yeah I mean they can take a sniper shot with what? 1 or 2 sniper resist curios on. that takes like 1200 effective toughness or something right?
willow hazel
It's feels the same though
bleak tulip
which is why I dont personally put too much value into tdr
ornate hamlet
Multiplicative is ridiculous
bleak tulip
because why not just run OwtW
ornate hamlet
It makes things deal more damage and makes you take more
limber silo
so how would one calculate tdr with different numbers?
limber silo
1-(1-.33)(1-.2)?
bleak tulip
I do it with *.95 for example for 5
lethal lagoon
yeah I mean they can take a sniper shot with what? 1 or 2 sniper resist curios o...
I tested a bunch of combos a while back. 3 sniper resists, feel no pain, and about 180 toughness.
bleak tulip
works better for my brain
ornate hamlet
Same
ornate hamlet
I already do the subtraction before the math because I hate the 1- crap
orchid nest
I tested a bunch of combos a while back. 3 sniper resists, feel no pain, and abo...
That sounds about right since I've seen them with upwards of like 220 toughness. I guess you can probably lose 1 or 2 sniper resists at that point
ornate hamlet
5% TDR is 95% damage taken
willow hazel
Each 5% toughness DR node is still 5% more effective toughness. Even with the multiplicative thing.
lethal lagoon
I've had a sniper shot do less than 100 toughness with bleed enemies surrounding me
orchid nest
I've been meaning to convert my ogryn to full toughness I just don't play him a lot. basically logged him in just to do twins hm when it released
limber silo
https://discord.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/119078442839...
I don't understand, I'm getting 80% damage
ornate hamlet
It's the same process for enemy resist
lethal lagoon
fire ticks get stronger over time
max fire stacks is 18 per tick on bombers, so basically 10 ๐
lethal lagoon
Yeah, that's why I don't bother with 3 gunner resists anymore, esp with the fire changes, just 2
bleak tulip
I don't understand, I'm getting 80% damage
youre using the second node additively then, I wanna say each node gets applied, then the next, making them notably less efficient as they go on
ornate hamlet
Because you take the damage you'd take, AKA 1
bleak tulip
not sure if thats how it works tho
ornate hamlet
And multiply it by 0.8 twice
bleak tulip
but I think it is
ornate hamlet
So your total damage taken by gunner resist with 2 perks is 1x0.8x0.8
limber silo
youre using the second node additively then, I wanna say each node gets applied,...
Nvm, I figured it out. One with the Warp and Endurance at max power is 46% tdr total
bleak tulip
etc
orchid nest
yeah 2 resists is decent you really lose out on the third one though value wise
ornate hamlet
It's also because of this system that multiplicative damage is goated
limber silo
what about the peril generation nodes?
bleak tulip
jokes on you I only get OwtW and another 5% travel node 
ornate hamlet
The reductions get diminishing returns, the increases get increasing returns
bleak tulip
when in doubt I think its all multiplicative
lethal lagoon
peril gen feels additive when testing warp charges smite vs ep smite
bleak tulip
I think even CDR is?
ornate hamlet
Assume multiplicative when it's reducing and additive when it's increasing
That way you reach the minimum value for both
And are surprised when it's better
strong gulch
Oh you have 502 now?
Yee. G502 wired
plucky flax
hearty oak
this surge staff is fun wtf
not as slow as the void, but not the purg staff either.
Also, if i wanted to do a recon lasgun for the gunker. Which version was best?
long wharf
okay I'm back
untold widget
Doesn't recon lasgun not have any finesse stat, so it doesn't benefit at all from the gun related psyker talents?
hearty oak
It should. True aim should work with columns, I would think it would work with recon
untold widget
columnus has finesse though
lethal lagoon
Also, if i wanted to do a recon lasgun for the gunker. Which version was best?
recon las is pretty bad, but Vld is the better* one I believe.
untold widget
I don't use it, but I remember that being the case. Every time I tried to use one it just took ages to kill anything that wasn't meaninless
good for proccing Kinetic Flayer though
hearty oak
recon las is pretty bad, but Vld is the better* one I believe.
I'm bored. I wanted to see if the infernus blessing would work well with psyker's true aim
orchid nest
it should boost it afaik since stats still work on things without the bars and they usually just denote that it's a variable you can increase on that weapon
but finesse damage by itself won't do much anyways
lethal lagoon
I'm bored. I wanted to see if the infernus blessing would work well with psyker'...
laspistol is pretty good
The old one.
hearty oak
I know but I wanted to try recon as I never seen anyone do it
orchid nest
yeah the old laspistol is great. the new one isn't too bad but the old one has more synergy with psyker talents
untold widget
well try it out, you might find out the hard way why no one uses it, but if you have fun you have fun
lethal lagoon
*I know but I wanted to try recon as I never seen anyone do it*
There's a good reason for that
untold widget
just be prepared for the team hate as you hoover ammo like a thirsty little sibling
lethal lagoon
Also lemme double check that vld is the better of the 3, one sec.
hearty oak
*There's a good reason for that*
It's cause the 1% of darktide players know it's an amazing combo and they don't want me to find out about it 
lethal lagoon
untold widget
I'm pretty sure that 1 crusher requires 2 mags of recon lasgun fire to take down
thats only like 220 ammo
for one enemy
near drift
hearty oak
for one enemy
and?
lethal lagoon
It's cause the 1% of darktide players know it's an amazing combo and they don't ...
So yeah, back when recon was pretty good for vet, Vld was the main one
long wharf
the burn damage should get boosted by the warp raider node
but True Aim works only on ranged attacks
of which burn stacks are not
lethal lagoon
Wut?
orchid nest
he meant that he could guarantee crits for the infernus procs
long wharf
also, @orchid nest - damage_templates.default_force_staff_bfg
has cleave_distribution attack = 10 and impact = 12
orchid nest
thank you
bleak tulip
Doesn't recon lasgun not have any finesse stat, so it doesn't benefit at all fro...
I dont know a single ranged weapon that has a rollable finesse stat, weapons still do have most of the stats even if they are not rollable, finesse still exists its just a set number auiu
long wharf
which may mean a cleave limit of 10 enemie? I'm not entirely sure how those values translate into in-game cleaving
orchid nest
every enemy has their own mass so for groaners it would be 13ish based on that
but poxwalkers are like 1.5 iirc should be 1
bleak tulip
groaners should be .75
orchid nest
oh are they? my bad
orchid nest
yeah it most likely is, I have been misled here before I suppose
long wharf
I start seeing perils of the warp effects whenever I start digging through Darktide's Lua
god I hate Lua so much
orchid nest
may as well edit my message so someone doesn't search it and also get misled
I guess poxwalkers would be 1 mass then?
long wharf
man that's disappointing
feels like when I learned void only had a cleave of 4 pre-patch 13
orchid nest
realistically at least you cleave a lot more of them with the surge projectiles too
and true aim
long wharf
that's true
and void is still big damage to what it hits with True Aim helping to proc surge blessing frequently
makes me feel better about using assail on crowds more than void
orchid nest
it still feels better than almost anything at cleaving down a line horde since you have surge and can do small charged shots. plasma will run out of ammo trying to horde clear. there is kickback ogryn which is silly when the horde is the right shape
long wharf
well, if you're trying to use plasma gun to horde clear, you're going to have a bad day, mkay
orchid nest
lol yeah
that was the funny part of the plasma change
"what's a good cleave value to go up to from 4? oh yeah, 100"
long wharf
well that makes sense if you consider the hit mass of ogryn enemies
plasma ought to cleave through some of them
orchid nest
I agree there and it's kind of a problem with how the system is designed as I would hope it could cleave ogryns but at the same time it just blasts through way too many regular elites now
long wharf
hell, you could bump up void's secondary cleave to 20 and it'd simply be better against crowds without allowing you to gun down ogryns with it
orchid nest
I think a better way to balance it would be if body parts had their own mass instead. going through an ogryn head wouldn't be as hard as trying to power through their torso, which would allow the amounts of other elites to be more balanced
long wharf
that seems like a logical thing to implement, so no, not for Darktide
orchid nest
spice veldt
Doesn't recon lasgun not have any finesse stat, so it doesn't benefit at all fro...
no it's just that recon lasguns have very poopoo crit/weakspot multipliers
long wharf
which is why you use that recon blessing to up your crit chance on weakspot hit
spice veldt
there's "finesse" as a stat that scales crit/weakspot 'power' and usually attack speed
and there's "finesse damage" which is the same as the crit/weakspot dmg perks
long wharf
good aiming with the recon VId makes it crit frequently with that blessing
spice veldt
and unless the weapon name is brain burst, they'll usually have some crit/weakspot multipliers
bleak tulip
tfw arco just says what I said but better again ๐
spice veldt
o i didn't read
long wharf
tfw arco just says what I said but better again ๐
you should be used to it by now
spice veldt
reading is for scrubs
bleak tulip
but yeah weapons generally have all applicable stats
dun worry bout it boo
like weapons still have a reload stat, since they have a number
thats the best way to illustrate it
some weapons you can roll it, most you dont
long wharf
my understanding is that finesse also affects attack speed, which doesn't make sense for a ranged weapon
bleak tulip
yeah which is why I dont think there is a ranged weapon with that stat rollable
long wharf
but then we look at the Ogryn
and one of the new space drugs we can use
because that makes sense.
thorn cedar
man
did a 3 man archivum in 25m lol
that was such a smooth run
feel bad for our fourth tho he really did keep trying to reconnect. unsuccessfully.
limber silo
I'm loving vraks headhunter on gunker
ornate hamlet
Vraks 7 has stupid finesse
Vraks 3 is comfy
Agri uhhhh 2? Is a fucking cannon disguised as a burst gun
If memory doesn't fail me, it has 40 stagger on a headshot
glass forge
Which psyker gun has highest DPS?
rich hollow
I havnt played in over a year. Get back on. I cant decide on a Psycher build...
shy willow
Revolver
prime elk
prob columnus tbh
ornate hamlet
The autoguns have funny damage
gilded ember
Thank you sibling!
took me a while to respond eh.. guess thats what work does to you
opal finch
Did shock staff get fixed yet
Or does it still target wrong limbs
And have other damage bugs
harsh urchin
It's fixed
lethal lagoon
Shock is solid
rich hollow
Ive been using shock and brain like OG release.
long wharf
it's alright
not great
we all had a really lengthy discussion about surge earlier today
lethal lagoon
Meh, ranged mobs are one of the biggest issues in pubs and surge is amazing at dealing with them ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I would never run surge in a pre-made of skilled players.
long wharf
I definitely wouldn't say "amazing"
lethal lagoon
You can insta kill ranged mobs and generate enough peril and toughness to tank ranged fire while doing it.
At least among staves there is no comparison.
lethal lagoon
For killing ranged mobs? Not at all
Killing ranged mobs is a waste of DPS on void
Esp if they are scattered in anyway
Takes too much time.
long wharf
not if, hear me out here, they're not in melee range
the only thing surge is amazing at is staggering non-ogryns
lethal lagoon
So your point is about sniping ranged mobs potentially behind buggy cover at 25m and longer?
long wharf
the two that you hit at a time
ornate hamlet
Void and revolver need that wacky-ass line-up gaming
lethal lagoon
You are literally proving my point with that lmao
long wharf
if you're talking about the "superiority" of killing a lone gunner...
ornate hamlet
They're primarily to clown on chonky targets
distant roost
Like a true reject
long wharf
then you've missed the point entirely
dreamy girder
oh, surge has a long range? I kinda thought it was for short range stuff
lethal lagoon
Missed the part where you keep trying to go offtopic?
long wharf
surge staff doesn't have a really long range
lethal lagoon
"Meh, ranged mobs are one of the biggest issues in pubs and surge is amazing at dealing with them ๐คทโโ๏ธ
I would never run surge in a pre-made of skilled players."
Literally all I said, and you keep derailing.
24m covers a lot more than you'd think
long wharf
"derailing"... I don't think it means what you think it means
lethal lagoon
"gunner" #psyker-class message
calm basalt
Matches with surge or smite ๐ด
dreamy girder
with Smite yes. Surge is fine. imo
long wharf
surge can be useful, it can kill weaker things more quickly than shooting with void or assail
it will not carry a bad run
it will not clutch through a bad situation
trauma can
void hits like a mac truck
dreamy girder
yeah surge defwont clutch
lethal lagoon
Surge will make it so you are never in a positon where you need to clutch ๐คทโโ๏ธ
lethal lagoon
Well never is strong
long wharf
oh man, tell me you have little experience without saying so
surge has nothing to do with the rest of the team letting you down
lethal lagoon
Surge covers a lot of pub skill gaps
long wharf
not on high heresy+
surge can easily be your primary weapon in Malice-
but then, most things can
calm basalt
I think they need to reduce the stagger on surge and smite, maybe slow down enemies instead of freezing them
lethal lagoon
This is a specialized channel in a discord, if we aren't automatically talking about auric t5s and auric maels, you are in the wrong place.
long wharf
the truly sad thing is if we start talking about that, you're even more wrong than you were before
eager mantle
not on high heresy+
Pffftt
lethal lagoon
I don't think you realize what rapidly clearing ranged mobs, opening bulwarks, and stunning maulers/crushers does for pubs.
Ranged mobs shred pubs who never seem to deal with them right.
long wharf
I know exactly what it does
I still use surge fairly regularly despite how lacking it is
lethal lagoon
I'm sure you do, you are just a contrary motherfucker who makes up agruments cause you enjoy it.
long wharf
oh no, my feelings
anyways.
surge isn't amazing
it's okay
literally any ranged weapon worth using will kill as quickly, if not quicker, than surge
lethal lagoon
#psyker-class message Here's you arguing with someone about how true aim doesn't affect burn stacks, like you literally spawned a nonexistent argument out of thin air lmao. That doesn't even make sense.
calm basalt
surge/ smite is literally no aim required, instant stunlock and almost infinite ammo. boring weapon to see
long wharf
you mean I misinterpreted the intent of their statement?
lethal lagoon
That's an understatement lmao.
harsh urchin
"high heresy+"
long wharf
no, it's just a factual statement
harsh urchin
Why would u say that
lethal lagoon
You didn't misinterpret it, you practically warped reality to have an argument with someone.
long wharf
regardless, you're still wrong about how amazing surge staff is
dreamy girder
surge/ smite is literally no aim required, instant stunlock and almost infinite ...
I specially dislike being in a match with a psyker that ONLY uses smite the whole match
long wharf
it's not amazeballs
hearty oak
1v1 in mourningstar
long wharf
it's underwhelming
harsh urchin
Is in a "its useable" state
long wharf
nah, psyker as a whole is in a really good place right now
eager mantle
I specially dislike being in a match with a psyker that ONLY uses smite the whol...
I've had a match where I forgot I had smite and we wiped woops
harsh urchin
In heresy?
calm basalt
I specially dislike being in a match with a psyker that ONLY uses smite the whol...
it irks me, but sometimes i feel it's very effective. like what could be better than freezing enemies in a horde shooter.
long wharf
the only thing psyker can't outdo the other classes in is bosskill
harsh urchin
Cuz in a5+ psyker is def the weakest class out of 4
Still good
Game is pretty balanced
But psyker isnt nutty like vet or ogy ๐
dreamy girder
what
long wharf
brother, if you think there's no such thing as roles in Darktide, you haven't played with a real team
if all you know is PUG play, you're missing out on the best experiences Darktide has to offer
dreamy girder
roles are there. even in pubs. get in the habit of looking at loadouts and fill in niches and your matches will go better
harsh urchin
My builds deal with every situation, whether theres 4 ppl alive or just me
long wharf
sure, psyker can cover a lot of bases well
calm basalt
i guess there are like broad situations
- hordes
- ranged
- dps tank enemies (ragers)
- tanks
- bosses
long wharf
but why bring two flamers/purges?
do you enjoy playing with two plasma vets?
what the hell are you even on about?
harsh urchin
If you fail a run and you blame your teammates cuz theyre not doing their "role"
๐
lethal lagoon
Two purgs can reach max warpfire stacks
long wharf
"role" doesn't mean "only does one thing and nothing else"
tawny pebble
yeah, there are all-rounder builds that can fill most any role, but at that point it's more about adjusting playstyle
long wharf
it means "bringing gear that is best at one common situation"
and you bring multiple gear that is best for different roles
harsh urchin
Either way, i think at the highest level of play surge is good
long wharf
and when everybody has gear that overlaps in different roles, you have a solid team that can handle everything with ease
harsh urchin
Maybe at heresy it's outperformed
long wharf
Either way, i think at the highest level of play surge is good
and I strongly disagree with this
lethal lagoon
Also, what is high hersey+, I want an answer to that too.
harsh urchin
But it definitely performs well in a5 maels and histg
calm basalt
psyker is the only class that has a defensive niche in abilities
long wharf
when comparing what you could be bringing instead of surge
harsh urchin
Also, what is high hersey+, I want an answer to that too.
Heresy obv lol
calm basalt
well, i guess vet too. but 50 toughness isn't bubble shield
harsh urchin
Otherwise he wouldve said 5s
long wharf
"high heresy" would be histg heresy or damnation and up
only someone doesn't play enough heresy and damnation would assume that heresy is automatically easier than damnation
long wharf
ai director is still bugged with special/elite spawns in heresy
lethal lagoon
Only someone who doesn't play 99% auric damns/maels would say high heresy+ lmao.
long wharf
I love maelstroms, I only play aurics with my group
harsh urchin
Nothing wrong with playing heresy tbh
long wharf
I only PUG heresy if I'm feeling masochistic
eager mantle
Some of my smoothest aurics have been 3 different vets and a smite psyker
harsh urchin
But you cant be serious lololol
lethal lagoon
I love maelstroms, I only play aurics with my group
My entire arugment was about surge's effectiveness in pubs in auric t5s and maels and you argued with me because?
Breh
Now I feel dumb.
long wharf
because surge isn't some all-around do-everything option
harsh urchin
Who cares if it is or not
mighty olive
because surge isn't some all-around do-everything option
agreed, is not as good as it used to be
long wharf
because surge staff objectively isn't amazing
harsh urchin
I think its a good weapon
long wharf
great, you like it
harsh urchin
And i play pug a5s
calm basalt
I havent used surge recently, but if it stuns like smite then it's objectively busted
limber silo
The biggest issue with Heresy and the only reason anyone would think it's harder than Damnation+ is because 90% of heresy pubs are full of morons and wannabe sweats
long wharf
I like it enough to use it for funsies, but never when try-harding
lethal lagoon
I already said I wouldn't use surge in a skilled premade
harsh urchin
The biggest issue with Heresy and the only reason anyone would think it's harder...
Right
long wharf
it objectively is inferior to other staff options
ornate hamlet
Pub auric (pubic) maelstrom
rocky raven
I havent used surge recently, but if it stuns like smite then it's objectively b...
only if you crit the bigger guys, and that 1 target vs aoe
harsh urchin
Its probably harder
lethal lagoon
agreed, is not as good as it used to be
limber silo
Yes. Who is arguing otherwise?
harsh urchin
Cuz teammates are shit
long wharf
surge used to be great, when it was bugged with EP
it used to be great CC, pre patch 13
eager mantle
The biggest issue with Heresy and the only reason anyone would think it's harder...
I've seen 21 death heresy runs
lethal lagoon
Ooo, the reddit/steam boards take
tawny pebble
Pub auric (pubic) maelstrom
sensible chuckle
harsh urchin
surge *used* to be great, when it was bugged with EP
Wdym it used to be great
It was straight up broken LOL
limber silo
I've seen 21 death heresy runs
Heresy is where the skill issues go to play
long wharf
nah, it wasn't straight up broken
harsh urchin
It one shot every enemy in the game
long wharf
it was straight up good
harsh urchin
And 2 shot crushers
limber silo
It one shot every enemy in the game
Like it should
harsh urchin
Ok yeah I'm done
lethal lagoon
I was literally doing my entire team's damage the one time I used EP bugged surge. If you think it wasn't beyond broken, you are just bad at the game.
mighty olive
i just want smite to trigger true aim again and i'll be happy
harsh urchin
And 2 shot crushers
.
lethal lagoon
i just want smite to trigger true aim again and i'll be happy
I loved that.
limber silo
It one shot every enemy in the game
If I am dedicating my ranged slot to a weapon that can only ever affect 2 or 4 enemies at a time, it better kill those 2 or 4
long wharf
and in a game where a vet with plasma can one-shot 4 crushers in a single pull, where is surge killing a crusher in two shots OP?
ffs, have some goddamn perspective
limber silo
No reason to remove it
There was a reason and it's becasue that's not what the node was supposed to do
lethal lagoon
There was a reason and it's becasue that's not what the node was supposed to do
That's like fatshark's thing though
calm basalt
plasma takes aim tho... surge doesn't
limber silo
Give surge some new blessings that do cool shit like that
long wharf
actually, surge can take aim
it'll try to hit what you're aiming at as primary target
limber silo
I want surge to be an actual lightning bolt
long wharf
lets you pick elites/specials out of a crowd
limber silo
No ticks, just BOOM LIGHTNING
long wharf
I wouldn't mind surge changing to an insta-hit lightning bolt
at least it'd be different from smite
limber silo
Oneshot everything that it touches, but it can't touch a lot at once
long wharf
idea - lightning strike on what you're aiming at, which then has a dot effect that causes it to tick smaller lightning strikes to nearby enemies
you could do so many cool things with surge instead of making it the Wish.com version of smite
long wharf
people seem to equate "I really like using X" with "X is objectively amazing!!1"
limber silo
call it Lightning Rod
long wharf
like there aren't opportunity costs with the choices you make for the team/run
limber silo
people seem to equate "I really like using X" with "X is objectively amazing!!1"
I feel this in every game
long wharf
but no, god forbid somebody call them out on their bullshit
"waah, you just to like argue"
limber silo
I play monster hunter and I have mained gunlance for 12 years. I say I like gunlance and everyone says "Gunlance sucks, worst dps weapon."
Bitch, I never said it was good
long wharf
I couldn't get into MH
didn't like getting locked into animations when attacking
entire time I played through MH, I was fighting the animation system
lethal lagoon
"waah, you just to like argue"
You are arguing meta while being a non-meta player, what else does that mean?
limber silo
I couldn't get into MH
It's weird because almost everyone I know who plays MH didn't like it at first, but something clicks the second time they try
limber silo
understandable
long wharf
the combat just made me miss playing Elden Ring
limber silo
lol, still waiting for the dlc myself
long wharf
that and the suuuper sus high-end costumes
limber silo
wdym
long wharf
I'm not a fan of anima/manga fan service to begin with
long wharf
it felt like every female armor visual was just there for fan service
incredibly creepy
limber silo
That's something all MH fans hate too
the male armor since World has been baller, but the female armor is all catgirls and thigh candy
long wharf
if I wanted to dress up a barbie doll as a stripper, .... I still wouldn't.
limber silo
Pre-world, everyone played female hunters because the male armor didn't look good when mixed
long wharf
ok yeah, I played through MH:World
limber silo
Imagine the meta for a dude being assless chaps + bright pink dunce cap
long wharf
have the DLC, but couldn't push myself to keep playing
limber silo
ever since transmog everyone plays male characters
long wharf
my son and some friends tried talking me into sticking with MH:W post-story, but I just couldn't
limber silo
my son and some friends tried talking me into sticking with MH:W post-story, but...
I dislike world because the main game locked me into cutscenes and scripted fights that I could play with friends until afterwards
long wharf
I recall playing the main story all the way through co-op
limber silo
I recall playing the main story all the way through co-op
Yeah, but you have to hit a timer mark or watch some cutscene to start the co-op
long wharf
okay
limber silo
Every other game, you can just hop in from the lobby with the boys
long wharf
yeah, there were cutscenes at the base camp
limber silo
In Rise, it was a far as "Here's a haiku about the monster, now go kill it"
usually accompanied with the monster trying to genocide the local cat population
long wharf
I guess I'm just an atypical anima/manga enjoyer - I really dislike fan service bs
as soon as a show or book does any kind of panty shot or obvious fan service crap, I drop it
olive ember
I love fanservice ;-;
long wharf
that tracks
limber silo
I love fanservice ;-;
THIS ISN'T ABOUT YOU DERPYSLURPEE
olive ember
Fan service is wte, I just kinda skim over it and move on
I hate power trip anime tho
overlord is just
dies of cringe
limber silo
I hate power trip anime tho
That's even worse than fan service imo
limber silo
overlord is just
Overlord is funny with the cringe tho
long wharf
I actually really enjoyed the Overlord manga
I loathe the typical isekai, with its usual harem bs
I enjoyed the twist in protagonist
limber silo
I hate the shows like Arifureta and most "I died and became super op and women jump on me now" isekais
lethal lagoon
overlord is just
First season overlord back when it first dropped was pretty great, no?
lethal lagoon
Which was unique at the time I believe.
long wharf
I hate the shows like Arifureta and most "I died and became super op and women j...
yeah, it's just harem smut wrapped in isekai
limber silo
First season overlord back when it first dropped was pretty great, no?
season 2 was better imo
olive ember
every time its just "wow I wonder how he's gonna dominate on these lesser nations"
lethal lagoon
It didn't age well because everyone copied it
olive ember
idk I just never liked it
tbf I read fucking rom coms as my preferred manga genre so
ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
limber silo
every time its just "wow I wonder how he's gonna dominate on these lesser nation...
I like how he's not actually evil, but needs to convince his underlings that he is
lethal lagoon
tbf I read fucking rom coms as my preferred manga genre so
Based.
limber silo
Rom coms are the shit
olive ember
I like how he's not actually evil, but needs to convince his underlings that he ...
"convince" is a strong word
long wharf
what I liked about Overlord wasn't the OP nature of the protagonist, but instead how the world reacted to the actions of the underlings and how the protagonist had to navigate that
olive ember
he says whatever bullshit he wants and his underlings just suck his dick and interpret it however they want
limber silo
what I liked about Overlord wasn't the OP nature of the protagonist, but instead...
this is it
lethal lagoon
he says whatever bullshit he wants and his underlings just suck his dick and int...
Yeah that's the fun part.
limber silo
Ains interacting with his world and the world responding is interesting
Rom coms scratch that itch for me tho
limber silo
Rom coms comfort me, but I'd never let anyone I know irl know
long wharf
but I don't like the instant "every female falls for him" stupidity
love-sick teenage behavior is off-putting
limber silo
but I don't like the instant "every female falls for him" stupidity
Not harem, rom com
long wharf
I don't care for rom coms, either
limber silo
I liked Chuunibyo
long wharf
I avoid "slice of life" media
limber silo
cringy, but kinda sweet
lethal lagoon
Overlord is basically slice of life?
long wharf
I wouldn't classify Overlord as "slice of life"
limber silo
Cowboy Beebop is the shit
limber silo
I wouldn't classify Overlord as "slice of life"
He do be slicing lives tho
long wharf
and in some really badass ways, too
with Overlord, the OP nature of the protag isn't the point
lethal lagoon
I mean the main character is so blatantly OP that no conflict really matters. Instead you are watching the daily life of the people related to him ๐คทโโ๏ธ
long wharf
it's how the OP stuff is used to influence the world around him
lethal lagoon
That's slicey of lifey
limber silo
He do be slicing lives tho
This means that Berserk is a Slice of Life by these standards fyi
long wharf
yeah, Berserk is super quality until the last 20 chapters or so
and definitely not slice-of-life
tawny pebble
and Theme of Guts, banished to the recesses of my mind, has come to the fore once again
just like that
strong gulch
I read hotcake. ๐ฅฒ
ornate hamlet
psyker is the only class that has a defensive niche in abilities
you could make some weird ass like
tawny pebble
mm, flapjack
ornate hamlet
zealot psykers
long wharf
Berserk was formative material for the first half of its run
tawny pebble
zykers
limber silo
zealot psykers
Imagine a zealot with psyker powers
long wharf
amazing dark fantasy
ornate hamlet
Imagine a zealot with psyker powers
i actually made this a build
limber silo
I LOVE THE EMPEROR I TALK TO HIM ALL THE TIME
long wharf
one punch man is on my list of great works
limber silo
one punch man is on my list of great works
Season one is the only good season imo
ornate hamlet
it uses bubble shield
brain burst and void
deimos or illisi it doesnt really matter
tawny pebble
i actually made this a build
what's it spec'd into?
long wharf
because it revels in its own silliness
tawny pebble
oh lag lol
ornate hamlet
and both have to have crit modifiers
lethal lagoon
Okay, now one punch, that's definitely slice of life, I won't be moved.
ornate hamlet
basically you want to do constant crits
long wharf
OPM is... kinda slice-of-life
limber silo
because it revels in its own silliness
I love that Saitama is so op his greatest struggles are getting to the store before the good deals end
ornate hamlet
oh lag lol
i use the one that adds more crit chance on hit and scales with peril amount
strong gulch
one punch stan
long wharf
I love that Saitama is so op his greatest struggles are getting to the store bef...
that's a big part of the charm - he's so super OP, and yet he still struggles with the daily life stuff in hilarious ways
olive ember
all I can say is that my then 15 yr old brain thought konosuba was a masterpiece
limber silo
that's a big part of the charm - he's so super OP, and yet he still struggles wi...
Ultra instinct normal mosquito is great
long wharf
oh, Steamboy was amazing
lethal lagoon
OP motherfuckers in slice of life situations is one of my favorite tropes
long wharf
I'm looking through old anime DVDs I have
lethal lagoon
It's one of the things that made the early marvel movies better.
long wharf
Princess Mononoke
tawny pebble
all I can say is that my then 15 yr old brain thought konosuba was a masterpiec...
we all make mistakes
olive ember
we all make mistakes
wdym konosuba still is a masterpiece
season 3 is coming apparently
long wharf
it's been a really long time since I watched anime that was instantly in line with some of the older classics
dunno if it's that I got older or if the overall target audience changed or what
strong gulch
Vinland Saga is pretty good.
olive ember
I think the last anime I watched was eighty-six?
I was planning on watching that idol anime but never got around to it
what is it called again?
long wharf
oh, I absolutely hate anything revolving around idol worship
strong gulch
dunno if it's that I got older or if the overall target audience changed or what
Thing are for sure changing outside of viewers / audiences aging.
long wharf
and not the religious meaning
oooooh, Jinroh was so good
of course, the classic Ninja Scroll (not really for a younger audience)
strong gulch
of course, the classic Ninja Scroll (not really for a younger audience)
It really isn't. My dad let me rent the tape as a kid because he didn't realize what its content was. ๐ oops
long wharf
yeah, I almost made the same mistake when my kids were a little too young
that one scene is ... very, uh... "informative" as well as "formative"
limber silo
I enjoy shows with deeper themes
strong gulch
that one scene is ... very, uh... "informative" as well as "formative"
YUP
long wharf
I have, somewhere in a box or plastic bin, a complete set of english-version Battle Angel Alita books
Gunnm in Japan
I actually didn't mind the most recent movie attempt at it
it really seems like, over the last 20 years, Japanese media has shifted from a forward-looking futurism to a past-looking fantasy preference
a real shame
ornate hamlet
I can be ur angle or ure devel
long wharf
missed opportunity for "bevel"
ornate hamlet
What is a bevel
restive slate
Smooth edge
strong gulch
Like a smooth round over.
long wharf
it's an angled cut between two surfaces to create a third between them with lessened angles of contact
ornate hamlet
I have bevel brain
strong gulch
yeah can also be angled.
Depends on context. Like in woodworking, bevels can be rounded or angular. Basically not 90 degrees.
long wharf
man, it's a real shame that the armory exchange browser plugin doesn't mark for me which blessings I don't have yet
long wharf
there you go
ornate hamlet
Very cool to make pieces a bit less edged
strong gulch
The sticker that came with my new mouse is very sticky. I will enjoy sticking it to myself until it gives up.
lethal lagoon
Did you also buy a mouse on cyber monday?
or cyber week as they usually have
or black friday week
strong gulch
I bought it a few days ago and got it today.
lethal lagoon
:c
strong gulch
The "sale" has been the same.
long wharf
what mouse did you get?
lethal lagoon
The "sale" has been the same.
That do be how it is ๐ฆ
strong gulch
Logitech G502 Hero. The wired verson of the lightspeed.
lethal lagoon
Too much WoW nostalgia attached to Razor for me
I remember Razor sponsoring random WoW creators who did like complimations lmao
Youtube was so different back then
strong gulch
I'm on my second Razor Naga
I hope this one lasts too. The things are cruddier now, it's great when they actually last.
lethal lagoon
My only issue with my last hero was that the bottom thingies clumped up dust really fast.
to be clear, "last hero" because I switched to wireless not cause it broke.
strong gulch
I feel you on that. I had the g402 and those feet things would def grab dust and hair.
long wharf
I can map entire games' worth of keybinds to just the mouse
olive ember
any games I should buy
strong gulch
I love the idea of many thumb buttons
olive ember
before the steam summer sale ends
lethal lagoon
any games I should buy
Dragon's Dogma Dark arisen
olive ember
I was thinking about buying that visual novel that showed up
strong gulch
lethal company is fun
tawny pebble
i love how vet chat is talking more about psykers than psyker chat rn
lethal lagoon
Remnan 2
olive ember
i have remnant 2 as well
lethal lagoon
i love how vet chat is talking more about psykers than psyker chat rn
i love how vet how psyker more love about love and stuff then
strong gulch
bread and fred is an adorable rager. if you have someone to play with, that's best.
strong gulch
bread and fred is an adorable rager. if you have someone to play with, that's be...
Even "better" if that friend has bad timing and is easily distracted.
lethal lagoon
I don't have all the achievements cause I'm lazy and cause I grinded hardcore a bunch
olive ember
myeh I just backup saves
lethal lagoon
I mean I was doing hardcore for fun, so that kind of defeats the purpose
olive ember
I don't have fun doing hardcore but some of the items I needed so myeh
also I'd recommend backing up saves even if you don't just because crashes n bullshit can happen
ornate hamlet
Renamnt
olive ember
I have the original remnant tho
ornate hamlet
Yes, back up saves
lethal lagoon
There you go
ornate hamlet
The only thing I beat is my m-
lethal lagoon
I have hundreds of hours in just remnant survival mode
It's unironically my favorite rogue-like
ornate hamlet
strong gulch
Catherine is $5 usd right now. Def worth
long wharf
ew, visual novels
lethal lagoon
I don't have the patience to read something that slowly.
ornate hamlet
Give me give me hearing novels
I want that William The Foe guy reading novels to me
long wharf
do you mean Willem Dafoe?
lethal lagoon
any games I should buy
crab champions is on sale
strong gulch
Valheim?
olive ember
wtf is that
lethal lagoon
Like risk of rain 2, but crabs and honestly more fun
olive ember
eh I only play ror2 with friends
lethal lagoon
It's made by the same guy who made crab rave funningly enough
strong gulch
Journey and Abzu for chill games.
lethal lagoon
Gunfire reborn
The warhammer 40k ARPG is on a huge sale atm
I had a lot of fun playing that
Martyr I think it's called
strong gulch
It would be a disorganized mess if a bunch of us had a valheim server.
lethal lagoon
I just like any game that does magic well
strong gulch
This sticker is dying.
olive ember
Gunfire reborn
have that
strong gulch
A game I don't recommend is stranded deep. I got it for free and I want my money back. ๐
lethal lagoon
Melvor Idle, kind of out of left field. If you need an idle game for stuff.
strong gulch
I'd like a viscera cleanup style game set in the darktide maps.
lethal lagoon
40k DLC for powerwash simulator lmao
strong gulch
yes please
lethal lagoon
sci-fi type clean up isn't a bad idea in general actually
long wharf
there's already a game where you cleanup on a space station after the hero has gone through and killed everything
long wharf
well
lethal lagoon
there's already a game where you cleanup on a space station after the hero has g...
Oh wow that's 8 years old, didn't know they were already making games like that so long ago
fading shoal
ran out of plasteel as ever, so brb
lethal lagoon
Thanks for the rec
long wharf
I definitely wouldn't dumpstat damage
proven stirrup
roboquest is basically the same as Gunfire reborn if you liked it
Roboquest is a banger soundtrack with a cool game stapled onto it
long wharf
Oh wow that's 8 years old, didn't know they were already making games like that ...
everything old becomes new again