#psyker-class

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ornate hamlet
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Mercy killer on its own on psyker is like

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Literally unusable

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You have absolutely nothing that procs it on the class tree, so you end up needing a bleed blessing

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But you also could get bleed + rending instead

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Do many funny crits

strong gulch
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YUP

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all of that

static needle
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the only problem for this is that then i wanna be spamming left click, and those attacks arent as good dps wise i think

strong gulch
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flak

static needle
zealous hamlet
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better breakpoints im guessing

static needle
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why not just make the knife for pure single target

strong gulch
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Most high priority targets and where surge hits is flak

static needle
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that way assail can do most of the horde clear anyway and pair that with a trauma staff

zealous hamlet
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ah yeah it hits them center mass

static needle
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wont knife with precognition be pretty good tho, @strong gulch ? my theory is that it can deal with hordes from the insane finesse and u dont have to rely as much on spamming left click attacks

orchid nest
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the main problem is that second blessing isn't adding as much single target damage as you think it is compared to the bleed. uncanny by itself is the heavy lifting blessing, and then its like well you may as well have bleed

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it does help bring down healthier targets faster, ticks twice a second iirc and makes your monstrosity dps a lot better

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crit damage and weakspot damage only add the difference between the normal hit and the crit so you take a % of combat blades relatively smaller damage hits and it ends up being less damage than ticking bleeds

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and bleeding of course allows you to still damage the target if you need to dodge/reposition

glossy solstice
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knife for speed DS for Single target

strong gulch
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Yeah, flesh tearer makes hordes to monstrosities easier to deal with while also letting you reposition while those targets are affected by a dot.

Uncanny strikes is the thing doing the most for knife (at least for psyker). Flesh tearer is a nice global addon that is not super specific in it's play.

orchid nest
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the "you could just take a ds4" argument is valid but it's also an argument FOR bleed since having good mobile monstrosity damage with the bleed that does decent regardless of facing is one of the main reasons to use knife over DS

strong gulch
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If you really want to push single target on knife, then you still want to focus on push attack spam but take the DD keystone. Probably even take scriers gaze.

ionic needle
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Unbelievable luck on the perk rolls on this one, haha

orchid nest
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hell yeah, turned out nice

untold widget
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78% burn/cloud? Unacceptable! /s

hasty breach
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wait, do you actually want a LOW roll of damage on fire/blaze trauma?

sly dawn
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this good?

untold widget
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you don't necessarily want low damage, but if your charge rate and blast radius are maxed out, it's not a deal breaker. The main thing is getting those maxed, the rest of it is just icing on the cake

kindred ivy
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scrier gaze DD surge VS is hilarious

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yeah u can really do insane shit with scrizer

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however, u can just pop it for a sec for that extra beefy crit chance + 10% dmg increase big blow

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which is pretty fun

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also, yeah smite >>> better

bold maple
sly dawn
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got it, thanks

bleak tulip
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melk giving me the meme stick

strong gulch
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meme for pay

bleak tulip
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maybe in half a year when surge gets the nerf stick hard enough itll be something, until then it lives in the stash lmao

potent echo
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This is the closest we can get to fireball staff KEKW_ogryn

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Imagine surge/blazing spirit you get 6 soulblaze per crit pogryn

worthy relic
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what the fuck - this duelist sword doesnt stab well

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the other 1 i had did

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this one slices

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wtf

rotund fable
worthy relic
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is mk5 bad?

strong gulch
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None of the DS sowrds are bad, but the mk4 heavies are super strong and easy to chain.

rotund fable
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I preffer mk 4 because it's special allows you to interupt elite attacks, and the one i have has high enough mobility that i can out-sprint a zealot

worthy relic
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mmmmmmm

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so this 1 isnt good - i should craft a mk4

tame venture
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i have this staff, and looking at it, it's not immediately bad, but when i play with it it's not that spectacular. is there some break point that i really need to work hard to get?

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it's taking higher amounts, and more charges to kill things like gunners than it feels like it should

rigid rune
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That's just surge hitting torso sometimes pretty sure

rotund fable
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surge always hit's torso now

rigid rune
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thought it could hit torso and head but not limbs now

tame venture
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well still, it just feels sub par from how it's "supposed" to preform

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or at least how people say it does

rotund fable
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I dont normally use the surge (i preffer purg or voidstrike), so I'm probably not the person to talk to regarding them.

rigid rune
blissful bluff
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Anyone have a good gun build for pusher

tame venture
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for pusher? no

rotund fable
rigid rune
tough cipher
tame venture
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colmnus infantry autogun

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infernis laspistol

bleak tulip
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maybe christmas isnt the time

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(the 90k joined halfway but still)

rotund fable
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Sadness

visual osprey
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it's my favorite class in the entire game man

south gull
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I like vet more but psyker is hard second for me until they nerf power sword again

visual osprey
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maybe vet will end up being up there eventually when I get some real kasrkin gear

untold widget
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I'd imagine I'd like the other classes more if they had magic

ornate hamlet
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You mean to tell me

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That yelling at people so they can take more damage with their magic blue health isn't magic

untold widget
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no

ornate hamlet
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And that recolouring the magic red outline to piss yellow somehow is not altering the fabric of reality itself

untold widget
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to be fair, I played 750 hours of VT2 and 730 of those were Bright Wizard

strong gulch
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New low brain power build.

assail + trauma + DS4

untold widget
south gull
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I just use surge staff

untold widget
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melk you dawg

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how do I get purple name 😦

south gull
strong gulch
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Could have been great, but 75 base stat. 🥲

untold widget
strong gulch
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Melk is toying with me.

zinc phoenix
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Gotta be one of the sub personalities or he punishes you

untold widget
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I dunno if I wanna nuke that C5 IAG for fire frenzy 4 or fix the problems and use it cause of its nice stats

radiant lantern
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Is surge better than void strike?

south gull
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I think it is \

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because dps

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you just can't hallway clear like you can with voidstrike tho

radiant lantern
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Yeah, I haven't tried out surge yet but I've been using voidstrike. I like it but the long charge up time annoys me when there's a good vet with plasma in game

south gull
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gotta get that warp flurry

urban sandal
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a good plasma vet makes everyone feel borderline useless

radiant lantern
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I use Warp Nexus and Surge on mine

bleak tulip
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I just ran a solo maelstrom just to get like 20 dreg kills for melkies and die but then I had a buncha randos join at 5 am local time and had some of the smoothest game I ever had lmao

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it do be like that

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I gotta run maels at 5 am more often

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only absolute nolifers

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😎

rotund fable
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Today i learned that wildfire spreading soulblaze can cause a demonhost to wake up...

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a dog that i tagged ran right past a sleeping demonhost and died to the burn

magic kayak
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Yeah but, despite the collateral damage possibilities, the purgatus flame staff remains my favorite staff. The sheer horde clear potential is insane

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For single target you can run brain burst or use force sword + rely on at least one ally being a high single target dps build

rotund fable
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My purg build runs Brain burst and the Diemos, it's pretty solid.

magic kayak
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Yep I use diemos also

worthy relic
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assail highest dmg buiild?

tame venture
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exactly how much of a meme is this gun for a gunker? i have a proper one but i've donea few missions with this and it's pretty fun ngl

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this is the gunker build i've been using tho

untold niche
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sorrym an dumb dumb

untold niche
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hol on

umbral helm
untold niche
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man very confused

hardy coral
untold niche
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u slow poke

hardy coral
snow dust
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too much at the front, it's why you're being targeted

untold niche
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EXASCTYTLU

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smort hamsta

snow dust
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Kek

south gull
snow dust
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I tried running without the peril block shield talent....1st test game, accidentally triggered a daemonhost while trying to kill a bomber. Q_Q

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did manage to successfully tank it though

untold niche
tame venture
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any reason why my existing build isn't worthwhile?

hardy coral
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i just run Smite & Soul Blaze build, its actually borderline OP, if a monstrosity spawns that isnt Chaos Spawn the i can pretty much solo run a mission.

lethal lagoon
untold niche
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orange is debatable, butr majority agreed

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not thta worth to tke smol nodes

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and you didn't take the bottom green one

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for why the + dodge is red crossed, its because it doesn't work as advertised

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its quite useless

untold niche
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i just tried using yours and making it slightly better

hardy coral
lethal lagoon
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They actually get an additional stun/push if you cancel smite before 100% peril though...

tame venture
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not worth/low value?

untold niche
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same as red

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i just make it pink to signify that its only if you go that path

hardy coral
lethal lagoon
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I just mean it takes a bit more thought to end your team KEKW_ogryn

untold niche
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wait so if you end smite and 100%

lethal lagoon
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No push

untold niche
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they get double pushed?

untold niche
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:v

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, additional to smite stunning?

tame venture
hardy coral
tame venture
untold niche
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e.g. the pink one for venting shriek just means that if you take venting shriek, don't take the crosed out augment

tame venture
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wait

untold niche
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another example being you can't take both EP and DD

tame venture
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for disrupt destiny the center one doesn't lock anything tho

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purloin provedence

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20% chance for 15% quell when killing DD marked dudes

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20% i'd consider semi reliable ngl

lethal lagoon
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As a side note, that's one of the worst talents in the game.

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it's like battle meditation but 5 times worse.

thorn cedar
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its remarkably mid yeah

lethal lagoon
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Battle meditation already isn't that great

thorn cedar
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unless youre using voidstrike and almost every shot you fire is clocking out a marked target, purloin is blah

tame venture
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🤷‍♂️ it helps extend scriers, while shooting

thorn cedar
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and battle mediation will still come out ahead

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i have done both for the luls

thorn cedar
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and it can occasionally impress

lethal lagoon
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20% chance on 1 target somewhere on the map, or 10% chance on all targets....

thorn cedar
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but its not like ... good and certainly not reliable lol

lethal lagoon
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Like it's not even remotely good lmao

untold niche
lethal lagoon
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"How do we make this mid talent even worse." Fatshark

thorn cedar
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my honest opinion

tame venture
thorn cedar
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If you wanted to make me or anyone else take it

tame venture
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honestly idk why i didn't have warp rider

thorn cedar
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make it 10% chance

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but 100% quell

lethal lagoon
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I'm good with 50% chance for 10-20% peril.

thorn cedar
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no make it INSANE

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i wanna laugh maniacally

lethal lagoon
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DD is pretty mid so you might as well juice it just to see if it even matters.

untold niche
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but eveyrthing we say here is for naught

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not that the devs would read psyker chat :v

tame venture
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though i could get 5% peril gen reduction instead

lethal lagoon
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I would try a run with quick shards, it feels way more than 30%.

worthy relic
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telekiine shield better than venting shriek?

tame venture
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asshail is extremely boring and still overtuned imo

rare mesa
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what yall think i should do next

untold niche
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also @tame venture with DD, once you hit full stacks, at least for me, alot of times i don't kill the marked target

tame venture
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it's a good backup, but i'm here for the gunking

worthy relic
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is telekiine shield better than venting shriek?

untold niche
rare mesa
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shriek op

untold niche
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but if you like shriek

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run it

bleak tulip
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shield is too comfy, makes people play slow

worthy relic
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u get moore crit hit % from gooing the shiiled > shriek

worthy relic
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if you keep to the right side of tree

untold niche
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you mean you can't take crit aura AND venting?

tame venture
idle bay
bleak tulip
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auras are shit and that one is generally pretty mediocre too

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not worth pigeonholing yourself for

untold niche
lethal lagoon
tame venture
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😂

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I mean i do use that one zealot set

umbral helm
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don't trust them new nurglers over there

tame venture
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say khornates with the hard R

worthy relic
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@untold niche i dmed u big man

magic kayak
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So I've tested the latest impowered psionics build with smite, and its just does overall way less damage than a good purgatus staff

untold niche
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I'm not big man. And don't dm m3

magic kayak
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so what is even the point

untold niche
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I'm just helping people here because I asked alot of questions and just wanted to help others as in return for the regulars that had been answering my questions

lethal lagoon
magic kayak
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even with empowered psionics up it kills slower and the cc is nearly the same really since purgatus also supresses, though I guess not for ragers etc

untold niche
untold niche
bleak tulip
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smite EP bad

untold niche
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Wasn't there a bug with smite ep like in p13

bleak tulip
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yeah

magic kayak
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that makes sense I'm like wtf is this. I watched asian robot video on smite psyker but I'm not seeing any point

bleak tulip
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well 14

untold niche
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If he came 1 month earlier

magic kayak
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Oh yeah that's righht. the rando dmg on smite but thats over

untold niche
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xD

open pike
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Yes but it made Surge good the actaully effect on Smite was still bad lmao

magic kayak
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Yeah I do recall that, it was critting all over the place

bleak tulip
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not sure they know what they wanna do with smite

open pike
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Actually I may have got it mixed up P13 to P15 Surge/Smite just kept getting really weird buggy changes

bleak tulip
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they clearly dont want it to actually do damage because that would be kinda stupid

magic kayak
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true, assail for group dmg, brain burst for single target, smite for cc, but I think it should debuff enemies also

bleak tulip
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very selfishly I dont even want smite to get any buffs, people already overuse it

magic kayak
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like enfeeble portion is ok I guess but its not the same type of support debuff you'd expect

untold niche
bleak tulip
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like, overuse it badly

untold niche
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I'm not top 1% psyker like you

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Big brain big d

bleak tulip
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where they just stand there smiting hordes

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like idiots

magic kayak
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yeah I see smit on every pug psyker now

bleak tulip
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and all theyre doing is stunning themselves and not doing damage

rotund fable
# south gull what keystone do you run for it?

I run empowered psionics with it.

The empowered brain-burst with Diemos lets me kill most meele threats that manage to get past my teammates really fast, while also letting me insta-delete far-off ranged threats while my teamates are busy if I've dropped my shield down.

untold niche
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Maybe 1 in 10 games

rotund fable
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sorry it took so long to reply, i was busy

bleak tulip
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happens semi frequently

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its annoying

open pike
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You only get holding permission with Smite if you're blasting Flaming Shrieks

magic kayak
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empowered psionics with smite is ok but its still way inferior to purgatus staff

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and you're running an entire keystone for it

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seems bad

worthy relic
open pike
magic kayak
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honestly with a decent group, shield is useless

open pike
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When you can also mix damage in

bleak tulip
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even with vent you dont wanna hold it longer than to get to 85% because once its applied youre back to doing fuck all and the time it takes from whatever peril you were at to 85% should be enough for your team to get the hint that there is 20 ragers on screen

snow dust
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basically force combat into melee by using the shield as a tunnel to close distance/hide behind. Also gives +toughness regen while in it

untold niche
magic kayak
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honestly, I always see groups die in the shield because they huddle in, a flame grenade gets thrown into the shield or a bunch of elites gang up and they all die

rotund fable
snow dust
bleak tulip
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I wouldnt say shield is better

magic kayak
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yep thats me running it too

snow dust
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Or poor shield placement

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usually poor shield placement

magic kayak
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Yeah if you have an actual party that knows what theyre doing shield can be clutch, but if it's all randos thats a big ask

snow dust
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shield is better for rando groups because it gives them a safe place to shoot gunners/snipers/shooters

magic kayak
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I thought safe spaces were for 2021

snow dust
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and that along with elite groups (crushers/ragers) usually is what leads to pub wipes

worthy relic
untold niche
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Show actual stats

magic kayak
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yeah that doesn't tell us anything

snow dust
magic kayak
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diemos force sword is the jam

snow dust
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Blaze force is pretty decent though.

rare mesa
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you can top score dmg just by spamming ds4 tho

snow dust
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Can confirm. Just swing away and use power sword charge against anything tankier than hordes.

magic kayak
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what is ds4

open pike
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Randomly remembered I haven't seen Obscurus in like 200 games, rework the poor middle child already

magic kayak
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oh dueling sword

rare mesa
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death shriek 4 stacks

snow dust
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dueling sword MK4, the Macarana sword

rare mesa
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jk jk

magic kayak
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that ones the mkv tho

untold niche
worthy relic
snow dust
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ah

tame venture
untold niche
snow dust
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MK4's stab spam is great. When combined with the secret techniques of the miniature giant space hamsters, it basically kills everything.

rare mesa
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running rending on my trauma staff is a thankless job

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i switch to blaze and now i can delete hordes

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without pressing f

untold niche
snow dust
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How do I run nexus crit blessing with rending and blazing spirit on the same staff? Q_Q

untold niche
snow dust
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rip

untold niche
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i think thats how gunkers get their assail to be rending

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uncanny weapon swap

idle bay
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Damit - was playing too much Rogue Trader lately. I keep pressing tab to highlight matearials in Darktide 🙂

untold niche
lethal lagoon
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I drew mine

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🙂

untold niche
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yeah no shit stfu atlas

tired knoll
untold niche
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how come that mutie didn't die to deimos stab

tired knoll
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missed headshot Sitgryn

bleak tulip
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watch me low key panic at the daily double but get out of it

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note the upticks of like 10-20 kills

rare mesa
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wait u can dodge out of burster jump like that?

bleak tulip
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thats vent

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wouldnt recommend it

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I got kinda lucky

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usually that fucks you

rare mesa
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whats the best way to dela with that

bleak tulip
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probably got out because of mettle

rare mesa
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i follow up with a hit and pray i dont 1shot it

bleak tulip
lethal lagoon
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Got the vid confused lmao

bleak tulip
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doesnt affect dodge distance I think but maybe it helped me range it out or something, the poxer jumped earlier than usual too I think

lethal lagoon
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Yeah, I've dodged pox jumps a number of times, I don't think I could do it on purpose though.

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Sometimes they just kinda jump early too

kindred ivy
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smite is strong as is

lethal lagoon
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Like if they get ready to jump, you dodge slide, they seem to jump to your previous positon, so if you dodge slide again, you might be far enough away.

kindred ivy
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no need to buff it

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but they keeo fucking buffing it

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the thing that makes it only target torso is imo a buff (since before it could target either leg, leg, arm , arm or head, or torso

wide maple
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Interrogative: For Malleus Monstronum do all the brain bursts have to come from one psyker?

bleak tulip
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think so yeah

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
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it would randomly

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not target the tors

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it was randomly targeting other areas

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which dealt less dmg

lethal lagoon
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It went, infinite smite, ep smite affected surge, smite targets limbs/head, ep smite is finally fixed.

wide maple
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In that case would anyone like to watch my back while I get that penance?

kindred ivy
lethal lagoon
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It only targeted torso before

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Then it got broken

kindred ivy
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yeah that waht i mean

lethal lagoon
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and now it's fixed again.

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No it wasn't

kindred ivy
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yeah, it felt like a nerf

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now its fixed, and feels like a buff

kindred ivy
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sometimes buff fixes improve the performance of a ability or skill.

bleak tulip
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stop responding to the bait mouse

lethal lagoon
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Claims themselves as "way of the mice creator" knows nothing about smite patches hmmgryn

kindred ivy
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i literally know XD

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i read the patches,of smite,

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before one of the recent patches it was fucked, and randomly targeted wrong parts

bleak tulip
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we know

kindred ivy
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which, in effect, was a nerf

bleak tulip
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we were there

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thats not the point

kindred ivy
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i mean is it the best tool in the psyker kit by far? yes;

lethal lagoon
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You keep implying smite targeted random parts from the start, that's not true.

wide maple
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SIBLINGS! stop fighting

kindred ivy
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i havent

wide maple
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And give me recommendations on imporvements to this sword

bleak tulip
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this shit keeps happening

lethal lagoon
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Meh, I'm done. Not the first time bro told an outright lie, let's go back to poxburster congo lines.

kindred ivy
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i said thing, which is not implying anything

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i never said it did not target torso beforhand

lethal lagoon
kindred ivy
bleak tulip
lethal lagoon
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You can also keep it as a horde clear IV that can still heavy just fine.
So leave the blessings, change the perks to whatever.

kindred ivy
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i am both lmao

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also smite best

bleak tulip
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depending on your playstyle you can keep rampage but if youre just stabbing shred is better

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either way you probably want uncanny

lethal lagoon
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I have one that's shred rampage for when I want the mutant poking but don't need anti-crusher.

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It's okay horde clear

bleak tulip
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and yeah change unarmored to maniac

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unarmored isnt high value since you already fuckin destroy everything that is unarmored

lethal lagoon
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Shred Uncanny is a solid combo for anti-crusher and other armored shits.

wide maple
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I don't really need it for anti-armor

bleak tulip
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special attack follow up should solve the somewhat rare occasions you might stab a dreg gunner in the head or something

wide maple
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since crit builds + Voidstrike deletes things

tame venture
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does the chainsword's charged block attack do anything notable? it seems to stay in an enemy for much longer

lethal lagoon
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You might want it for a diff build in the future.

wide maple
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That's what I figured

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Seriously though. Crits + Voidstrike, people. Its like plasma, but better

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Your farts of blue flame are worthless. Delete the hordes instantaneously instead.

tame venture
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if they're queued up for you all politely

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i often do sweeping 180s with purg

bleak tulip
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its up to you to position yourself well

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on most maps you can make funnels

tame venture
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could probably set up a macro to do a 360 while you're channeling flames

bleak tulip
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wouldnt recommend it, you need a certain swipe speed to get the most out of it

tame venture
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but it'll be funny

potent echo
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Activate the Psyker sprinkler

tame venture
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could probably do it with smite too to zap everything

bleak tulip
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nah smites sticky

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it doesnt change target that easily

magic kayak
magic kayak
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purgatus melts hordes en masse. I can hold an entire side of a horde by myself easily, everything is at 15 stacks basically instantly, then any elites get brain popped or force sword to the face

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yeah obviously its charged... still does a small aoe

wide maple
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ITS A LINE

magic kayak
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maybe you can type in caps and call me a dummy again to prove your point

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and still be wrong

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the line is nice if everything is standing for you in straight line, but the staff just has way more effective area

wide maple
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im not the wrong one

magic kayak
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yeah void strike has way better horde clearing than the purg staff, you should make a yt video on it

tawdry pasture
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i stopped caring about right and wrong long ago

if its quiet they win

tame venture
tame venture
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surge, purge, trauma, void in terms of charge rates? idk

potent echo
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Void is pretty slow

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Around 1.7

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Charge rate barely affects it

lethal lagoon
potent echo
#

Yea if it's a long corridor, sure

potent echo
#

But once you get that one of two stragglers it's so annoying

lethal lagoon
#

^

untold widget
lethal lagoon
#

Stragglers on voidstrike are so DPS damaging, it's actually better to have 1 bot on the team.

tame venture
wide maple
potent echo
#

A little

wide maple
potent echo
tame venture
#

isn't nexus and surge the intended blessings for void tho?

wide maple
potent echo
#

Purg is easier to play

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No worries at all

wide maple
#

Or you just give them a little tap

wide maple
untold widget
#

less than you think. I only really play psyker, and probably half of that time its on Void. the amount of times hordes will come from multiple directions out of doors 6 feet away from you is extensive. Sure there's times where it will stretch out into a line and be easy to clear with void, but to say it's every time is a gross exaggeration and you can't pretend its not

potent echo
#

Void struggles with anything not a corridor

bleak tulip
#

not really

rare mesa
#

ur in my quickplay games a lot

potent echo
#

You can have your perfect void scenario and ofc it will do better than purg

wide maple
potent echo
#

Ah so you don't use purg

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No wonder so biased

wide maple
#

It outperforms purg users in every single game I play

potent echo
#

Mmhmm

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Can't change your mind on that

tame venture
#

don't base anything on them

lethal lagoon
untold widget
#

this is the new mice smite guy but with void?

tame venture
#

i wish smite was as good as that guy claimed

wide maple
tawdry pasture
untold widget
#

Void is great, it's one of the most versatile staves we have. It's not perfect for every scenario.

untold widget
#

you're funny

half iron
#

guys. we are all bad

tame venture
#

no i'm bad

half iron
#

i disagreed with someone and i’m bad

tawdry pasture
#

keep a loose grip on the purgatus

untold widget
#

If you're a psyker and are only able to use one staff effectively, then you're not good. Plain as day.

tawdry pasture
#

if you sweated you sweated without your partner, thats cheating

rare mesa
#

all i need is trauma

half iron
#

my favorite staff is the columnus

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it’s not the purgatus so i’m bad too

untold widget
#

good psykers can use any staff, any blitz, and still perform

wide maple
untold widget
#

void is a close second

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then purg

untold widget
#

then surge

rare mesa
#

trauma lets me play like im bomber man

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i just slide around blasting my feet

untold widget
#

if you can't do A5 maelstrom with all of the staves, then consider bowing out of the discussion

tawdry pasture
#

the variable that increases grenade max, + an ogryn with his big frags

that's a fun meta

half iron
#

trauma is my favorite launch pad next to barrels

tawdry pasture
#

rare but comedic

#

if a vet has the ammo box grenade refills

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"hey where'd the ammo g-"

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"nevermind that works"

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(psykers should have nades)

wide maple
#

they have incendiary grenades

#

(specials)

tame venture
#

zealot mfs be like

tawdry pasture
wide maple
bleak tulip
#

as much as this guy is coming on strong, suggesting purg is currently in the same league as void is kinda copium ngl

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void is still low key overtuned becaus of surge

tame venture
#

void is more flexible than powerful imo

wide maple
#

surge is genuinely op

tame venture
#

trauma is the best damage and debuff

magic kayak
#

yeah void is great to be able to take out long range threats but when talking horde clear the purg is just superior in almost every scenario

wide maple
#

Goes from staggering bulwarks to oneshotting them

umbral helm
#

I've always wondered why we never have a voice line as psykers about grenades, like "a grenade! ...that I can't use"

tame venture
magic kayak
#

when it comes to vs elites, etc void is obviously better

tame venture
#

idk if i'm missing something

tawdry pasture
#

assuming you know how to choke and hold, they're the same outcome with differing DPS depending on aim

magic kayak
#

have horde on both flankes? Purg both sides

tame venture
tame venture
magic kayak
#

I can max charge and purg 360 if I want. Void can charge and shoot in one direction at a time, I don't even see how this is a discussion lol

bleak tulip
magic kayak
#

void also generates peril way quicker

magic kayak
#

but literally the only thing its good at is horde clear...

tame venture
wide maple
untold widget
wide maple
#

And you can build so that if you are sending into hordes every shot will be a crit

untold widget
#

doesn't mean I can't make purg work, and I often do.

bleak tulip
tame venture
bleak tulip
#

but you do you lmao

tame venture
#

wut

magic kayak
#

If i take purg, its because my pug is probably horrible at dealing with hordes

tawdry pasture
#

purgatus will control a crowd, if you value that more it's support play

tame venture
#

with surge?

magic kayak
#

void is more fun, has a nice impact to it and its ranged, all great things

tame venture
#

the staff that autoaims?

tawdry pasture
#

but all of this is talent dependent

untold widget
#

could probably do 1 shot with enough buff stacking

magic kayak
#

or auto brain burst

wide maple
tawdry pasture
#

on controller, purgatus is kind of more relaxing

umbral helm
#

I just bring whatever I'm in the mood to play, usually. efficiency has nothing to do with it

tawdry pasture
#

but i guess that argument is null if you're trying to compete

wide maple
#

I mean the surge blessing

tame venture
#

I"VE BEEN SAYING THAT THE WHOLE TIME

magic kayak
#

brain burst isn't bad I agree

wide maple
tame venture
#

YES

#

I"M AWARE

#

tbh you don't seem to get crits all that often on void

untold widget
#

true aim

wide maple
#

?????????????????

magic kayak
#

yeah maybe 10% of the time

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I feel like with void my crits are rare in the meat grinder

tawdry pasture
#

i wish surge popped heads

untold widget
#

true aim, shoot at head level, crit all the time

tawdry pasture
#

oaaaAAooo

bleak tulip
wide maple
#

Psyker can stack more crit than any other class

bleak tulip
magic kayak
#

I think he's just talking about base chance, that is what I meant

bleak tulip
#

base chance is the same as the three other non surge staves

magic kayak
#

but you get less attacks so feels less often

tame venture
#

well, i don't have warp nexus, so crit chance is kinda gimped on mine

untold widget
#

even so, true aim shores that up

magic kayak
#

from what I can tell, each shot crits or doesn't it doesn't count as a separate chance per enemy hit

bleak tulip
tame venture
tame venture
#

i was talking about surge staff

tawdry pasture
#

fire gets to stun and pop

untold widget
#

you're the only one

tawdry pasture
#

electric neglect

bleak tulip
untold widget
#

you replied to a discussion about void with surge blessing with a stat about surge staff against crushers

magic kayak
#

I think the devs need to man up and make us a staff that just does everything at once so we can finally compete with ogryns

tame venture
magic kayak
#

beystaff

kindred ivy
#

u can kilelly oneshot crushers with a full staked scrier + DD

wide maple
tame venture
#

the real crime here is that the staff bash does literally nothing

umbral helm
kindred ivy
#

i do get why ppl like VS more now, as i have used it again aftert the talent tree update

untold widget
#

but yeah its bad

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I want a Dclaw-esque parry into lmb shot for staves pls

tame venture
kindred ivy
#

still, revolver seems more practical on almost every situation (XD)

wide maple
magic kayak
#

which ones the VS

tawdry pasture
kindred ivy
#

wat the fuck

bleak tulip
#

its a scooter thank you very much

umbral helm
#

I weave a bonk into my channeling occasionally if a rager or something suddenly pushes his way through the crowd to make him sit on his ass for a bit

tame venture
#

i usually just forget it exists

wide maple
kindred ivy
#

scrier VS is nuts, but not very pratical

magic kayak
#

I use the staff melee only to explode barrels on my teammates

kindred ivy
#

if u comparing staggers, there 1 tool that outclasses everything

#

do i need ot say the name?

tame venture
#

barrels

kindred ivy
#

smite XD

magic kayak
#

say my name

untold widget
#

to be fair, void staggers bosses, smite does not

bleak tulip
#

dont bet on that its a bug

untold widget
#

at least it staggers chaos spawn and plague ogryns

kindred ivy
#

ig that is true

wide maple
#

Sit, plague ogryn.

bleak tulip
#

bonbon too if you hit weak

magic kayak
#

void staff killed my family

untold widget
#

yeah that's just less useful

untold niche
kindred ivy
#

theVS stagger is higher

untold niche
#

revolvo is insane

bleak tulip
#

it makes bonbon spit someone out I guess

kindred ivy
#

with DD scrier def

wide maple
bleak tulip
#

thats something Kekw

kindred ivy
#

can someone explain how to controll peril with DD Scrier

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it seems VERY hard XD

#

like i acn do fine with warpcharges

wide maple
magic kayak
#

hold down r key

kindred ivy
#

but Scrier almost feels like i'll pop scrier

#

do like 3 charged attacks

untold widget
#

charge to full, pop scriers, release, charge again to half and release then quell while crying saying pls pls pls no explode

wide maple
#

Scrier is bait

kindred ivy
#

before it gets too dangerous to do charge attacks or to spam M1s

magic kayak
#

scrier is an underdeveloped skill. it works for short dps burst, which is basically never needed

kindred ivy
#

yeah it really seems RNG sometimes wheather the peril will kill u or not

#

especialy at +95%

magic kayak
#

its so people get baited into running gun psyker

untold widget
#

I only really use scriers with Columnus

kindred ivy
#

20% crit chanceXD

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and +10% dmg, and DD

#

goes hard

untold widget
#

true aim is enough

untold widget
magic kayak
#

I just can't imagine using it an entire run just to kill boss a little quicker

wide maple
kindred ivy
untold widget
#

pretty much it for me, which is why I don't gunker

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100% is enough crit maus

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sorry

half iron
#

a gun is cooler because it reminds cadians everything they can do, a wizard can do much cooler

magic kayak
#

I feel like my gunker is a smarter veteran

bleak tulip
#

ogryn rock is cooler than cadia anyway

half iron
bleak tulip
#

exactly

wide maple
#

fuckin took the words out of my mouth

bleak tulip
#

made cooler because its ogryn throwing it

untold widget
#

ok as much as i'd like to continue this, pretty sure I'll have work tomorrow so i'm gonna hit the sack

bleak tulip
#

f

magic kayak
#

psykers are basically bite sized ogryns

half iron
#

if i turned all ogryn into a hivemind i would combine their strength to throw whatever is left of cadia on top of tertium

untold widget
#

not 100% but I did tell my boss that I was gonna be back in town today, so i'd better be available just in case

#

good night siblings

wide maple
wide maple
#

"My vacation ends on the last day of my request"

#

That's what you tell them

untold widget
#

I despise vacations anyways

#

more than 3 days without work and I stop putting on pants in the morning

#

I need the purpose

wide maple
#

Pants are cringe

bleak tulip
#

I dont think thats a healthy outlook but you do you I guess

wide maple
#

What is that enemy?

bleak tulip
#

smikers

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bad loner zealots?

#

anybody running recon lasgun?

wide maple
#

All of those!

#

Pants!

bleak tulip
#

I said smikers, not snipers

wide maple
#

the fuck is a smiker

bleak tulip
#

smite psyker (derogatory)

wide maple
#

They wear pants too

bleak tulip
#

I also wasnt even talking about the pants thing

bleak tulip
wide maple
#

¯_(ツ)_/¯

#

Being addicted to the daily soulgrind of work is weird, I don't get it.

ornate hamlet
#

smicycle

untold widget
#

I'm a service technician. I fix problems for people, and the actual fixing of the problem makes my brain release the happy chemicals. If I don't go to work, then I don't have that source of the happy chemicals. It's probably not healthy, but I live in America. Being healthy is for rich people. I'm just trying to suffer as little as possible.

hollow spruce
#

good blessings for trauma staff?

untold widget
#

I enjoy what I do, and my customers like me for it. That's not a bad thing to me

bleak tulip
#

ameriga moment

untold widget
#

in any case, dog's been walked and bed calls

quick tulip
bleak tulip
#

blaze nexus

quick tulip
#

Or whatever the chain blessing is

hollow spruce
#

rending?

untold widget
hollow spruce
#

thanks

bleak tulip
#

blaze nexus is pretty much the "meta" for trauma

floral wedge
#

I should look into making a brittleness build one of these days

hollow spruce
#

that's fire on crit?

bleak tulip
#

ye

untold widget
#

aka "I just want to set the world on fire"

bleak tulip
#

brittle isnt as strong overall because its not a massive % and iirc you dont get it on the hit that applies it on trauma

#

it sure is really good on melee maelstrom tho

#

because infinite crushers

south gull
#

I like purgatus staff to an extent, but it always feels llike im annoying my team

bleak tulip
#

you probably are, but fuck em

floral wedge
#

^

plucky flax
half iron
#

cool blue fire thrower is cooler than lame ahh flying homing mind shards

south gull
#

guess they cant complain when I melt a rager horde

floral wedge
#

Neither when I stop an entire horde while they're getting downed rejects

plucky flax
#

I do and will complain when I can't see shits.

south gull
bleak tulip
#

you already cant see tho

plucky flax
bleak tulip
floral wedge
#

Swing the melee and hit something eventually ig

#

The true ventilation purge game play we've all been looking for

bleak tulip
#

shrimply intuit the position of the enemy from the smell of heresy

floral wedge
#

I'd ask how are you so acquainted with the scent of heresy but then I remember why we're all here. And a commissar would likely appear just to shoot me

#

Random question: for malefic momentum or something like that, do you guys use just your melee to gain stacks or a gun?

wide maple
wide maple
tame venture
#

non warp attacks buff warp attacks, iirc the talent

floral wedge
#

I just couldn't remember the name for the perk lol

wide maple
#

oh

#

I don't ever use that talent

floral wedge
#

Fair

tame venture
#

i assume most take iit, kinda forget it exists, and end up just using the +1 to poop after meleeing things, without noticing

floral wedge
#

Lol

#

Actually. I might take brain burst, malefic momentum with purgatus staff and see how that goes

wide maple
tame venture
#

🤷‍♂️

wide maple
#

I mean its not really useful

#

unless you are specifically stacking it

floral wedge
#

I mean. It wouldn't be hard to gain stacks

tame venture
#

would it be worthwhile though

wide maple
#

not really?

floral wedge
#

A full +20% might be something on brain burst

wide maple
#

you cant get there from brain burst

floral wedge
#

F

wide maple
#

momentum is bottom right

floral wedge
#

Forgor.

wide maple
#

plus the stacks just last 8 seconds

tame venture
#

🤔 would it buff smite for a single hit, or as long as it's being used?

wide maple
#

based on the language, all hits until the 8s is up

tame venture
#

it's not exactly a damage ability, but i've always wondered about stacking buffs on it

#

stims, empowered, momentum, etc

#

obv not optimal, but i'm curious

wide maple
#

IDK what base damage is

tame venture
#

if you can get smite to do like, 800 dps per target it'll probably be good

wide maple
#

I count +15%, +20%, +20%, +125%, assuming the stars align and you don't want to run cringe.

tame venture
#

imagine if enfeeble applies to smite itself lol

tame venture
wide maple
#

Its a lot of stars to align though

tame venture
#

it's for the funny™️

#

again, fully aware it wouldn't be optimal

#

but maybe knowing how it works will be useful for something in the future

wide maple
#

Thats 5 crits, 5 non warp kills, max peril, and empowered psionic

#

Would be fucking hilarious though

#

You start palpatining

#

but it actually does something

tame venture
#

i'd really like to see it lmao

#

but i gotta turn in today, and i won't be able to set something like that up for a while

wide maple
#

ill see what I can do

tame venture
#

👍

#

you could meme and tell people that's baseline performance

plucky flax
#

It's not good I don't ever see anyone use it. Only on gun psykers maybe.

shell maple
#

Theres your Palpatine

safe meteor
#

Psyker go zap zap zap

zinc tartan
sour bison
#

nice stats

#

lmao

mint pivot
#

with run n gun, can you charge rmb while sprinting? or is it just the lmb?

sour bison
#

nah

#

its shit

mint pivot
#

figured as much 😄

sour bison
#

only for lb

tame venture
#

R&G would be good on guns if you could reload while sprinting too

untold niche
#

they camped in this small room (no idea why) and then we lost

#

ah shit

#

the screenshot

near wyvern
#

Run N Gun would be good on laspistol X but guess what, they don't have it in the pool Guarded

untold niche
#

?

#

surprising

near wyvern
#

Laspistol X has like the best and most usable hipfire of all the guns in the game but yeah lacking run n gun

plucky flax
#

Laspistol used to give more crit chance on ads idk if its still the case.
The old one pre 13 anyway.

untold niche
#

Vet gameplay looks so boring
electrical dagger, then pfoom pfoom gun

#

melts everything

untold niche
#

i don't want to carry anymore. i want to be carried

#

i have youtoob on autoplayh

#

good time

#

anybody wanna carry me

#

a5histg

ornate hamlet
#

Ladies and gentleman,
After 3 weeks grinding done and 1.5 million ordo dockets spent.
I present to you the balenciaga psyker.

vestal fulcrum
#

But does it compare with the average, cool Surge staff enjoyer?

untold niche
ornate hamlet
plucky flax
#

Young rich

ornate hamlet
#

Aight I feel hollow now

glossy ember
#

oh hi melk

#

hmm should I eat surge and give it to the other staff by replacing flurry?

#

i don't have nexus 3 or 4 deadge just 2

#

but right one has 80 damage and maniac/flak

plucky flax
#

Bruh I can't clutch with heavy sword on zealot.

#

I think I'm cursed with that weapon.

frigid relic
glossy ember
#

hold on

#

i have a dumb idea

ornate hamlet
frigid relic
#

Actually Based

glossy ember
#

i'm cooking lads.

vestal fulcrum
#

Hm. Why not Mettle?

#

For upkeeping SG?

#

(I.e., pathing to Battle Meditation?)

potent echo
#

Warp charges with SG...?

vestal fulcrum
#

Well, they do offer Warp Resist… once you stack them whatthefuck_heresy

potent echo
#

This is the hard mode build KEKW_ogryn

glossy ember
vestal fulcrum
#

BM is not very consistent IMO

lethal lagoon
#

With void bowling it kinda is

glossy ember
glossy ember
lethal lagoon
#

You posted a voidstrike?

glossy ember
#

yes

#

that's a different build

glossy ember
glossy ember
#

if I give up battle meditation and go for mettle I got one free point hmm

gloomy magnet
#

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lethal lagoon
#

I'd do pierce on assail or PC depending on how much you use assail

glossy ember
languid tusk
#

what's the best situation to use assail ?

shrewd ledge
#

Hey boys anyone willing and patient here to help a fellow psyker with a penance?

summer prairie
#

give me your code

near wyvern
shrewd ledge
#

sending..

shrewd ledge
mossy surge
plucky flax
vocal cliff
#

Hello everybody my name is Markiplier

mossy surge
plucky flax
#

How's your sleep?

mossy surge
plucky flax
#

Can't wait to get 3 sus teammates.

mossy surge
#

semifixed

plucky flax
mossy surge
#

lemme join

plucky flax
#

Let's do it.

#

84k cash money

mossy surge
#

i dont envy the pubs we'll get

vocal cliff
#

Good luck you two and remember to clean your shoes

plucky flax
#

Wtf this lvl 1400 guy is running without nexus.

mossy surge
plucky flax
#

Wouldn't be my choice of perk too but okay.

vocal cliff
#

Ranged damage (elites)

kindred ivy
#

XD it good

#

i remember running focused quite a bit

acoustic swallow
#

what to do to make this a better staff? i am running dome, warpcharges and a duellist sword

kindred ivy
#

also enhanced blitz?
this is 100% some smite territory XD

kindred ivy
#

and infested dmg to flak or maniak

acoustic swallow
kindred ivy
#

gives 2 stacks of flame

#

if it crits

#

instead of 1

#

the dot accumulates faster!

acoustic swallow
#

the staff somehow feels really weak, even against small mobs

kindred ivy
#

it shouldnt

#

purgatus rn is just not that good

#

but it can perform well.

#

but do try changing to flak. or maniak

#

pugatus is mostly a horde clearing staf

acoustic swallow
#

so more supportive for the team?

kindred ivy
#

ig so. do bring a melee that can kill elites

#

if u bring a purgatus.

acoustic swallow
#

should i use right or leftclick?

muted obsidian
idle bay
spice veldt
idle bay
spice veldt
#

die

near drift
#

my favourite part of the purgatus staff is when I say it's purgin time and then I purg all over the heretics

rich jolt
kindred ivy
#

left is just for stagger

#

the left taps are pretty nice for stagger

kindred ivy
#

but some def have it easier

rich jolt
#

True

#

Flamer and purge could do with buff

kindred ivy
#

i think they are fine

#

the other things need a nerf

#

i think crit weapons should def have lower base dmg, but have even higher crit dmg, so u REALLY play into the gamble of it

#

and ofc more ways to get critchance

near drift
#

As long as you bring an armor killing melee like DS mk 4 or deimos, purgatus will work just fine

mossy surge
#

twas fun

plucky flax
#

You are the monster damage now.

plucky flax
#

RIP warp nexus. nooooo

mossy surge
plucky flax
#

It's such a weird purga staff for a guy with such high level.

#

Maybe he was memeing. whatthefuck_heresy

mossy surge
summer prairie
#

At least a while ago the crit rates weren't accurate

bleak tulip
#

pretty sure they still aren't

slow vapor
vestal fulcrum
slow vapor
#

awesome tysm

mossy surge
#

@plucky flax ScrimboBimblerPajama

plucky flax
#

This guy does no damage.

mossy surge
#

congrats on 1mil dmg

plucky flax
tardy goblet
#

are there any melee/gun builds with psyker that are good?

gloomy magnet
#

siblings ...

viscid matrix
opaque charm
#

Why is brain burst so bad 😭

sly dawn
#

works on my machine

idle bay
sly dawn
#

hey now

#

i'm right here

eager mantle
idle bay
#

Also still borderline appropriate name 🙂

#

I would only report if i see nickname Erebus 🙂

gloomy magnet
#

🥹

idle bay
fluid aspen
#

Does it make sense to put Unarmored damage on a Trauma staff? Are legs generally unarmored? hmm

vestal fulcrum
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I don’t think Trauma defaults its damage to whichever body part is damaged (I’m clueless, though - it occurs to me that it only ever targets the base “health” type the unit has)

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Like DoTs do

fluid aspen
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I see, makes sense

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Unarmoured is not the best perk for it, though

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So what is?

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Unarmoured units collapse when touched by the epicentre

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Flak, Carapace, Maniac perks are good

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Flak is probably the most universal one

chrome patrol
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unyeilding

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I've been running Voidstrike and I'm thinking of making a build for the twins. Apparently the trauma works pretty well on them

chrome patrol
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for ogryns and bosses

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Crit chance perk is also very good if you have Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus blessings on it

vestal fulcrum
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Yeah rolled Warp Nexus III by default which is something. Just need to get more trauma staves because blessings aren't shared REEEE

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Psyker melee weapons have better anti-boss/Ogryn properties

chrome patrol
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Voidstirke to the face seems to be doing alright against armored big lads

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So if Trauma doesn't target a specific bodypart, do the different armor type damage modifiers just proc if the target has that armor on anywhere?

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Also are there any other staves which work like that?

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By the corpse emperor staregryn

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I’ll be honest

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I don’t know

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Fair kekw