#psyker-class
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Literally unusable
You have absolutely nothing that procs it on the class tree, so you end up needing a bleed blessing
But you also could get bleed + rending instead
Do many funny crits
the only problem for this is that then i wanna be spamming left click, and those attacks arent as good dps wise i think
flak
the bleed takes too long to do significant dps imo
better breakpoints im guessing
why not just make the knife for pure single target
Most high priority targets and where surge hits is flak
that way assail can do most of the horde clear anyway and pair that with a trauma staff
ah yeah it hits them center mass
wont knife with precognition be pretty good tho, @strong gulch ? my theory is that it can deal with hordes from the insane finesse and u dont have to rely as much on spamming left click attacks
the main problem is that second blessing isn't adding as much single target damage as you think it is compared to the bleed. uncanny by itself is the heavy lifting blessing, and then its like well you may as well have bleed
it does help bring down healthier targets faster, ticks twice a second iirc and makes your monstrosity dps a lot better
crit damage and weakspot damage only add the difference between the normal hit and the crit so you take a % of combat blades relatively smaller damage hits and it ends up being less damage than ticking bleeds
and bleeding of course allows you to still damage the target if you need to dodge/reposition
Sure but you could also just take a M4 DS
knife for speed DS for Single target
Yeah, flesh tearer makes hordes to monstrosities easier to deal with while also letting you reposition while those targets are affected by a dot.
Uncanny strikes is the thing doing the most for knife (at least for psyker). Flesh tearer is a nice global addon that is not super specific in it's play.
the "you could just take a ds4" argument is valid but it's also an argument FOR bleed since having good mobile monstrosity damage with the bleed that does decent regardless of facing is one of the main reasons to use knife over DS
If you really want to push single target on knife, then you still want to focus on push attack spam but take the DD keystone. Probably even take scriers gaze.
Unbelievable luck on the perk rolls on this one, haha
hell yeah, turned out nice
78% burn/cloud? Unacceptable! /s
wait, do you actually want a LOW roll of damage on fire/blaze trauma?
this good?
you don't necessarily want low damage, but if your charge rate and blast radius are maxed out, it's not a deal breaker. The main thing is getting those maxed, the rest of it is just icing on the cake
scrier gaze DD surge VS is hilarious
yeah u can really do insane shit with scrizer
however, u can just pop it for a sec for that extra beefy crit chance + 10% dmg increase big blow
which is pretty fun
also, yeah smite >>> better
change groaner perk to 25% vs unyielding/maniac and usable
got it, thanks
meme for pay
maybe in half a year when surge gets the nerf stick hard enough itll be something, until then it lives in the stash lmao
This is the closest we can get to fireball staff 
Imagine surge/blazing spirit you get 6 soulblaze per crit 
what the fuck - this duelist sword doesnt stab well
the other 1 i had did
this one slices
wtf
mk 5 does mostly slashes, mk 4 can stab really well
is mk5 bad?
None of the DS sowrds are bad, but the mk4 heavies are super strong and easy to chain.
I preffer mk 4 because it's special allows you to interupt elite attacks, and the one i have has high enough mobility that i can out-sprint a zealot
i have this staff, and looking at it, it's not immediately bad, but when i play with it it's not that spectacular. is there some break point that i really need to work hard to get?
it's taking higher amounts, and more charges to kill things like gunners than it feels like it should
That's just surge hitting torso sometimes pretty sure
surge always hit's torso now
thought it could hit torso and head but not limbs now
well still, it just feels sub par from how it's "supposed" to preform
or at least how people say it does
I was told that surge damage needs to be above 76% for a breakpoint regarding flak ragers and shotgunners, but I don't remember the specifics.
I dont normally use the surge (i preffer purg or voidstrike), so I'm probably not the person to talk to regarding them.
I find that my surge needs a few stacks of warp siphon to hit gunner/rager break points
Anyone have a good gun build for pusher
for pusher? no
it used to be RNG related as to where it would hit, so they decided to make it only hit torso, on account of an interaction between it and true strike basically giving surge psyker infinite crits.
SG+DD = gun psyker ☑️
What secondary would you recommend for a SG Build? Looking to try it out but not sure which secondary I should aim for
Sadness
I get more kills with psyker than any class
it's my favorite class in the entire game man
I like vet more but psyker is hard second for me until they nerf power sword again
maybe vet will end up being up there eventually when I get some real kasrkin gear
I'd imagine I'd like the other classes more if they had magic
You mean to tell me
That yelling at people so they can take more damage with their magic blue health isn't magic
no
And that recolouring the magic red outline to piss yellow somehow is not altering the fabric of reality itself
to be fair, I played 750 hours of VT2 and 730 of those were Bright Wizard
New low brain power build.
assail + trauma + DS4
ooo
I just use surge staff
money
Could have been great, but 75 base stat. 🥲
RIP
Melk is toying with me.
Gotta be one of the sub personalities or he punishes you
I dunno if I wanna nuke that C5 IAG for fire frenzy 4 or fix the problems and use it cause of its nice stats
Is surge better than void strike?
I think it is \
because dps
you just can't hallway clear like you can with voidstrike tho
Yeah, I haven't tried out surge yet but I've been using voidstrike. I like it but the long charge up time annoys me when there's a good vet with plasma in game
gotta get that warp flurry
a good plasma vet makes everyone feel borderline useless
I use Warp Nexus and Surge on mine
I just ran a solo maelstrom just to get like 20 dreg kills for melkies and die but then I had a buncha randos join at 5 am local time and had some of the smoothest game I ever had lmao
it do be like that
I gotta run maels at 5 am more often
only absolute nolifers
😎
Today i learned that wildfire spreading soulblaze can cause a demonhost to wake up...
a dog that i tagged ran right past a sleeping demonhost and died to the burn
Yeah but, despite the collateral damage possibilities, the purgatus flame staff remains my favorite staff. The sheer horde clear potential is insane
For single target you can run brain burst or use force sword + rely on at least one ally being a high single target dps build
My purg build runs Brain burst and the Diemos, it's pretty solid.
Yep I use diemos also
assail highest dmg buiild?
exactly how much of a meme is this gun for a gunker? i have a proper one but i've donea few missions with this and it's pretty fun ngl
this is the gunker build i've been using tho
sorrym an dumb dumb
you deal +4.5-6% Close Range damage on repeated hit and stack 5 times?
wat
man very confused

nah, im actually mostly at the front. 
too much at the front, it's why you're being targeted
Kek
what keystone do you run for it?
I tried running without the peril block shield talent....1st test game, accidentally triggered a daemonhost while trying to kill a bomber. Q_Q
did manage to successfully tank it though
i would do this
any reason why my existing build isn't worthwhile?
i just run Smite & Soul Blaze build, its actually borderline OP, if a monstrosity spawns that isnt Chaos Spawn the i can pretty much solo run a mission.
I'd love a stat which kept track of disabler targeting, because I think most players feel that.
uh cause i took some points from some nodes that aren't that good and put them into others
hol on, this the general guide for psyker
orange is debatable, butr majority agreed
not thta worth to tke smol nodes
and you didn't take the bottom green one
for why the + dodge is red crossed, its because it doesn't work as advertised
its quite useless
but i think most people run EP assail for gunker
i just tried using yours and making it slightly better
i think the most amusing thing is sitting there with multiple crushers, Maulers, shotgunners, Mutants stunned with Smite and your team shooting or hitting them and think "i could just end my team right now" 
They actually get an additional stun/push if you cancel smite before 100% peril though...
what's the meaning for the pink crossed talents tho?
not worth/low value?
pink just means if you take that uh node
same as red
i just make it pink to signify that its only if you go that path
ye, i do that at 80-90% Peril which gets the most consistent push, followed by Shriek and just watch things dissapear.
I just mean it takes a bit more thought to end your team 
wat
wait so if you end smite and 100%
No push
they get double pushed?
but but you say additional push
:v
Yeah, additional to smite stunning?
why not take the toughness damage reduction next to empathic evasion? it's 5%, but that's a pretty good effect
just hit 100% Peril, watch Crusher smite the nearest teammate. 
if i take the node.... what?
e.g. the pink one for venting shriek just means that if you take venting shriek, don't take the crosed out augment
wait
another example being you can't take both EP and DD
for disrupt destiny the center one doesn't lock anything tho
purloin provedence
20% chance for 15% quell when killing DD marked dudes
20% i'd consider semi reliable ngl
As a side note, that's one of the worst talents in the game.
it's like battle meditation but 5 times worse.
its remarkably mid yeah
Battle meditation already isn't that great
unless youre using voidstrike and almost every shot you fire is clocking out a marked target, purloin is blah
🤷♂️ it helps extend scriers, while shooting
voidstrike
scriers
and it can occasionally impress
20% chance on 1 target somewhere on the map, or 10% chance on all targets....
but its not like ... good and certainly not reliable lol
Like it's not even remotely good lmao
to be blunt, im surprised you took purloin instead of soulstealer
and yeah its basically just a conditional BM
"How do we make this mid talent even worse." Fatshark
my honest opinion
tbf it's a really old build lol
If you wanted to make me or anyone else take it
honestly idk why i didn't have warp rider
I'm good with 50% chance for 10-20% peril.
DD is pretty mid so you might as well juice it just to see if it even matters.
i think this gud
50% chance 20% peril
but eveyrthing we say here is for naught
not that the devs would read psyker chat :v
that said, i'm not spending a point on quick shards and instead getting a bit more toughness DR
though i could get 5% peril gen reduction instead
I would try a run with quick shards, it feels way more than 30%.
telekiine shield better than venting shriek?
asshail is extremely boring and still overtuned imo
what yall think i should do next
also @tame venture with DD, once you hit full stacks, at least for me, alot of times i don't kill the marked target
it's a good backup, but i'm here for the gunking
^context of purloin
is telekiine shield better than venting shriek?
generally agreed to be yes :v
shriek op
shield is too comfy, makes people play slow
u get moore crit hit % from gooing the shiiled > shriek
wat wat
if you keep to the right side of tree
i don't pay too close of attention for the millions of numbers and buffs at the bottom. i tend to just shoot the colored dude anyway because they're easier to see
Yup, crit aura block taking of Shriek
auras are shit and that one is generally pretty mediocre too
not worth pigeonholing yourself for
at 15/max stacks is when i can finally do proper target priortization
Why would i aim to kill that patrol gunner when there is like 5x ragers coming in at my team
Also you can use HUD mods which si what i do
so like important buffs are in the middle of my screen
Probably wanna edit that just in case lmao.
don't trust them new nurglers over there
say khornates with the hard R
@untold niche i dmed u big man
So I've tested the latest impowered psionics build with smite, and its just does overall way less damage than a good purgatus staff
I'm not big man. And don't dm m3
so what is even the point
I'm just helping people here because I asked alot of questions and just wanted to help others as in return for the regulars that had been answering my questions
i replied u small friend
even with empowered psionics up it kills slower and the cc is nearly the same really since purgatus also supresses, though I guess not for ragers etc
@worthy relic just post your question here.
That way others can see if my reply is correct
Fock you you are top 100% psyker ( not 1% :p)
there isnt one, they didnt know what to do with smite EP
smite EP bad
Wasn't there a bug with smite ep like in p13
yeah
that makes sense I'm like wtf is this. I watched asian robot video on smite psyker but I'm not seeing any point
well 14
If he came 1 month earlier
Oh yeah that's righht. the rando dmg on smite but thats over
xD
Yes but it made Surge good the actaully effect on Smite was still bad lmao
Yeah I do recall that, it was critting all over the place
not sure they know what they wanna do with smite
Actually I may have got it mixed up P13 to P15 Surge/Smite just kept getting really weird buggy changes
they clearly dont want it to actually do damage because that would be kinda stupid
true, assail for group dmg, brain burst for single target, smite for cc, but I think it should debuff enemies also
very selfishly I dont even want smite to get any buffs, people already overuse it
like enfeeble portion is ok I guess but its not the same type of support debuff you'd expect
Whatever makes my games go smoother
like, overuse it badly
yeah I see smit on every pug psyker now
and all theyre doing is stunning themselves and not doing damage
I run empowered psionics with it.
The empowered brain-burst with Diemos lets me kill most meele threats that manage to get past my teammates really fast, while also letting me insta-delete far-off ranged threats while my teamates are busy if I've dropped my shield down.
Ngl I haven't had that
Maybe 1 in 10 games
sorry it took so long to reply, i was busy
You only get holding permission with Smite if you're blasting Flaming Shrieks
empowered psionics with smite is ok but its still way inferior to purgatus staff
and you're running an entire keystone for it
seems bad
is it better to take crit an and shield. or elite dmg and venting?
It's the very specific breed of "I'm helping! Support Psyker where they use Dome and Smite but never actually do damage
honestly with a decent group, shield is useless
When you can also mix damage in
even with vent you dont wanna hold it longer than to get to 85% because once its applied youre back to doing fuck all and the time it takes from whatever peril you were at to 85% should be enough for your team to get the hint that there is 20 ragers on screen
not true, shield lets decent group be aggressive as fek
basically force combat into melee by using the shield as a tunnel to close distance/hide behind. Also gives +toughness regen while in it
Generally agreed that shield is better but if you like venting take it. Personally I can't be bothered to run shield.
If you have no idea which one just run shield, but imo take CD aura when you are running shield
honestly, I always see groups die in the shield because they huddle in, a flame grenade gets thrown into the shield or a bunch of elites gang up and they all die
i was replying to an older ping, i run empowered psionics with my purg-brainburst-diemos build.
elites shoudn't gang up in the shield. That means a loadout/playstyle issue on the party's part.
I wouldnt say shield is better
yep thats me running it too
Yeah if you have an actual party that knows what theyre doing shield can be clutch, but if it's all randos thats a big ask
shield is better for rando groups because it gives them a safe place to shoot gunners/snipers/shooters
I thought safe spaces were for 2021
and that along with elite groups (crushers/ragers) usually is what leads to pub wipes
also - which 1 ? i have shit weps tbh
Show actual stats
yeah that doesn't tell us anything
blaze force is like a ghetto power sword. Not sure what you mean by "no stab"
diemos force sword is the jam
Blaze force is pretty decent though.
you can top score dmg just by spamming ds4 tho
Can confirm. Just swing away and use power sword charge against anything tankier than hordes.
what is ds4
Randomly remembered I haven't seen Obscurus in like 200 games, rework the poor middle child already
oh dueling sword
death shriek 4 stacks
dueling sword MK4, the Macarana sword
jk jk
that ones the mkv tho
AYYYY MARCARENA
this dueling sword heavy is a slash - nt a stab so iit feells weak
ah
oh i still target properly, but usually it's just shooter #3 out of 5 that's highlighted
psyker generally just choose out of this three
ds4, illisi, deimos
MK4's stab spam is great. When combined with the secret techniques of the miniature giant space hamsters, it basically kills everything.
Go for the eyes Boo, GO FOR THE EYES!! RrraaaAAGHGHH!!!
running rending on my trauma staff is a thankless job
i switch to blaze and now i can delete hordes
without pressing f
soeone will be here soon to explain to you about blazing trauma
How do I run nexus crit blessing with rending and blazing spirit on the same staff? Q_Q
you swap to uncanny melee weapon for the rending

rip
Damit - was playing too much Rogue Trader lately. I keep pressing tab to highlight matearials in Darktide 🙂
btw did u draw ur own profile picture?
when you go to push the poxburster but it turns out its a straight up conga line 
is that deimos or illisi?
how come that mutie didn't die to deimos stab
missed headshot 
watch me low key panic at the daily double but get out of it
also re: vent vs shield https://streamable.com/hki7lt
note the upticks of like 10-20 kills
wait u can dodge out of burster jump like that?
whats the best way to dela with that
probably got out because of mettle
i follow up with a hit and pray i dont 1shot it
Got the vid confused lmao
doesnt affect dodge distance I think but maybe it helped me range it out or something, the poxer jumped earlier than usual too I think
Yeah, I've dodged pox jumps a number of times, I don't think I could do it on purpose though.
Sometimes they just kinda jump early too
smite is strong as is
Like if they get ready to jump, you dodge slide, they seem to jump to your previous positon, so if you dodge slide again, you might be far enough away.
no need to buff it
but they keeo fucking buffing it
the thing that makes it only target torso is imo a buff (since before it could target either leg, leg, arm , arm or head, or torso
Interrogative: For Malleus Monstronum do all the brain bursts have to come from one psyker?
think so yeah
It's a fix not a buff. It targeted torso before.
it would randomly
not target the tors
it was randomly targeting other areas
which dealt less dmg
It went, infinite smite, ep smite affected surge, smite targets limbs/head, ep smite is finally fixed.
In that case would anyone like to watch my back while I get that penance?
yeah, now it only targets the torso
yeah that waht i mean
sometimes buff fixes improve the performance of a ability or skill.
stop responding to the bait mouse
Claims themselves as "way of the mice creator" knows nothing about smite patches 
i literally know 
i read the patches,of smite,
before one of the recent patches it was fucked, and randomly targeted wrong parts
we know
which, in effect, was a nerf
i mean is it the best tool in the psyker kit by far? yes;
You keep implying smite targeted random parts from the start, that's not true.
SIBLINGS! stop fighting
i havent
And give me recommendations on imporvements to this sword
best to just ignore them tbh
this shit keeps happening
Meh, I'm done. Not the first time bro told an outright lie, let's go back to poxburster congo lines.
i said thing, which is not implying anything
i never said it did not target torso beforhand
Rampage -> uncanny, unarmored -> maniacs/carpace.

youre either being deliberately argumentative or youre really fuckin dense, either way just give it up
You can also keep it as a horde clear IV that can still heavy just fine.
So leave the blessings, change the perks to whatever.
depending on your playstyle you can keep rampage but if youre just stabbing shred is better
either way you probably want uncanny
I have one that's shred rampage for when I want the mutant poking but don't need anti-crusher.
It's okay horde clear
and yeah change unarmored to maniac
unarmored isnt high value since you already fuckin destroy everything that is unarmored
Shred Uncanny is a solid combo for anti-crusher and other armored shits.
I don't really need it for anti-armor
special attack follow up should solve the somewhat rare occasions you might stab a dreg gunner in the head or something
since crit builds + Voidstrike deletes things
does the chainsword's charged block attack do anything notable? it seems to stay in an enemy for much longer
Then just switch unarmored to maniac and don't touch your second change for now.
You might want it for a diff build in the future.
That's what I figured
Seriously though. Crits + Voidstrike, people. Its like plasma, but better
Your farts of blue flame are worthless. Delete the hordes instantaneously instead.
wouldnt recommend it, you need a certain swipe speed to get the most out of it
but it'll be funny
Activate the Psyker sprinkler
could probably do it with smite too to zap everything
disagree there, voidstrike doesn't do nearly enough damage to hordes at once, its aoe is pretty small in comparison
charge it dummy
purgatus melts hordes en masse. I can hold an entire side of a horde by myself easily, everything is at 15 stacks basically instantly, then any elites get brain popped or force sword to the face
yeah obviously its charged... still does a small aoe
ITS A LINE
maybe you can type in caps and call me a dummy again to prove your point
and still be wrong
the line is nice if everything is standing for you in straight line, but the staff just has way more effective area
im not the wrong one
yeah void strike has way better horde clearing than the purg staff, you should make a yt video on it
i stopped caring about right and wrong long ago
if its quiet they win
voidstrike seems to charge pretty slow ngl. i think it's the slowest of the 4?
surge, purge, trauma, void in terms of charge rates? idk
Uh 
I mean there are going to be plenty of sitatuations where voidstrike can clear a horde before it's even in range of the purg.
Yea if it's a long corridor, sure
Virtually every time.
But once you get that one of two stragglers it's so annoying
^
thats an exaggeration. probably under half the time
Stragglers on voidstrike are so DPS damaging, it's actually better to have 1 bot on the team.
honestly i can't tell if flurry is doing anything for it either
oh no, one or two stragglers, what will i ever do
A little
more than you think
You pull out your melee and oh no more void
isn't nexus and surge the intended blessings for void tho?
while the bulk of that wave of the horde is gone
Or you just give them a little tap
So anyone stanning purg over void is literally just skill issue?
less than you think. I only really play psyker, and probably half of that time its on Void. the amount of times hordes will come from multiple directions out of doors 6 feet away from you is extensive. Sure there's times where it will stretch out into a line and be easy to clear with void, but to say it's every time is a gross exaggeration and you can't pretend its not
Void struggles with anything not a corridor
not really
ur in my quickplay games a lot
You can have your perfect void scenario and ofc it will do better than purg
I exclusively use void, it does not
It outperforms purg users in every single game I play
pugs are regularly the most braindead people on earth
don't base anything on them
Brother, virtually everyone in here outperforms every build on every build when they play with randoms.
this is the new mice smite guy but with void?
i wish smite was as good as that guy claimed
Except I'm not wrong, you're just bad.
you'd be crazy to attune a playstyle to doing as little as possible, surely
Void is great, it's one of the most versatile staves we have. It's not perfect for every scenario.
guys. we are all bad
no i'm bad
i disagreed with someone and i’m bad
keep a loose grip on the purgatus
If you're a psyker and are only able to use one staff effectively, then you're not good. Plain as day.
if you sweated you sweated without your partner, thats cheating
all i need is trauma
good psykers can use any staff, any blitz, and still perform
I'm not only able to use one staff, Its just one is clearly the best
yes, and it's trauma
void is a close second
then purg
then surge
if you can't do A5 maelstrom with all of the staves, then consider bowing out of the discussion
the variable that increases grenade max, + an ogryn with his big frags
that's a fun meta
trauma is my favorite launch pad next to barrels
rare but comedic
if a vet has the ammo box grenade refills
"hey where'd the ammo g-"
"nevermind that works"
(psykers should have nades)
zealot mfs be like
niche bubble timing
as much as this guy is coming on strong, suggesting purg is currently in the same league as void is kinda copium ngl
void is still low key overtuned becaus of surge
void is more flexible than powerful imo
surge is genuinely op
trauma is the best damage and debuff
yeah void is great to be able to take out long range threats but when talking horde clear the purg is just superior in almost every scenario
Goes from staggering bulwarks to oneshotting them
I've always wondered why we never have a voice line as psykers about grenades, like "a grenade! ...that I can't use"
honestly? prove it.
it feels middling to me doing everything i'm 'supposed' to
when it comes to vs elites, etc void is obviously better
idk if i'm missing something
assuming you know how to choke and hold, they're the same outcome with differing DPS depending on aim
have horde on both flankes? Purg both sides
"ugh, grenades, anyone want these?"
no, purge one, flaming shriek the other
I can max charge and purg 360 if I want. Void can charge and shoot in one direction at a time, I don't even see how this is a discussion lol
shame that "good at horde clear" is like the least important metric of any weapon in the game lol
void also generates peril way quicker
nobody on here is stating purg is so great
but literally the only thing its good at is horde clear...
horde shooter genre game
horde cleaing is not important
Surge sends 2 crit bolts that overpenetrate. What isn't op about that?
Who said that? I said trauma and void are in the same league, purg is not. Lack of range really hurts when considering gunners
And you can build so that if you are sending into hordes every shot will be a crit
doesn't mean I can't make purg work, and I often do.
malice take ngl
yes i'm aware.
i'm talking about how in practice even a meta setup still takes like 4 hits to kill a crusher
but you do you lmao
wut
If i take purg, its because my pug is probably horrible at dealing with hordes
purgatus will control a crowd, if you value that more it's support play
Stop shooting the body?
with surge?
void is more fun, has a nice impact to it and its ranged, all great things
the staff that autoaims?
but all of this is talent dependent
void surge 2 shot's crushers
could probably do 1 shot with enough buff stacking
or auto brain burst
this is the surge staff i'm using. it's not a flawless ultra godroll, but it's not trash. i've found it very middling
Auto brain burst isn't as bad as people think
on controller, purgatus is kind of more relaxing
I just bring whatever I'm in the mood to play, usually. efficiency has nothing to do with it
but i guess that argument is null if you're trying to compete
oh, you're thinking the surge staff
I mean the surge blessing
I"VE BEEN SAYING THAT THE WHOLE TIME
brain burst isn't bad I agree
true aim
?????????????????
yeah maybe 10% of the time
I feel like with void my crits are rare in the meat grinder
i wish surge popped heads
true aim, shoot at head level, crit all the time
oaaaAAooo
aim for the head and if you crit it can easily be a near one shot with buffs, without buffs its still like 3 at most
Psyker can stack more crit than any other class
thats what nexus and true aim are for
I think he's just talking about base chance, that is what I meant
base chance is the same as the three other non surge staves
but you get less attacks so feels less often
well, i don't have warp nexus, so crit chance is kinda gimped on mine
even so, true aim shores that up
from what I can tell, each shot crits or doesn't it doesn't count as a separate chance per enemy hit
in which case why are you yapping about meta void
yeah, the less you roll the dice the less you get a bonus
because i wasn't?
i was talking about surge staff
fire gets to stun and pop
you're the only one
electric neglect
you were responding to surge blessing talk
you replied to a discussion about void with surge blessing with a stat about surge staff against crushers
I think the devs need to man up and make us a staff that just does everything at once so we can finally compete with ogryns
i had asked about the surge staff compared to other staves
beam staff when?
bladestaff you say
beystaff
u can kilelly oneshot crushers with a full staked scrier + DD
Just promote the psyker class to Grey Knights
the real crime here is that the staff bash does literally nothing
more or less, yeah. crits are determined on attack and whatever they hit will get hit with crit damage
i do get why ppl like VS more now, as i have used it again aftert the talent tree update
has infinite cleave and good stagger
but yeah its bad
I want a Dclaw-esque parry into lmb shot for staves pls
dont a number of melees do too?
still, revolver seems more practical on almost every situation (
)
So slow tho
which ones the VS
i love my faggio bike in gta
wat the fuck
its a scooter thank you very much
I weave a bonk into my channeling occasionally if a rager or something suddenly pushes his way through the crowd to make him sit on his ass for a bit
i usually just forget it exists
*Laughs in void staggering everything*
scrier VS is nuts, but not very pratical
I use the staff melee only to explode barrels on my teammates
if u comparing staggers, there 1 tool that outclasses everything

do i need ot say the name?
barrels
smite 
to be fair, void staggers bosses, smite does not
dont bet on that its a bug
at least it staggers chaos spawn and plague ogryns
ig that is true
Sit, plague ogryn.
bonbon too if you hit weak
void staff killed my family
yeah that's just less useful
revolvo OP :(
but ye only vs can one tap crusher
theVS stagger is higher
revolvo is insane
it makes bonbon spit someone out I guess
with DD scrier def
So is brittle stacking with infernus, but thats been there since beta
thats something 
can someone explain how to controll peril with DD Scrier
it seems VERY hard 
like i acn do fine with warpcharges
My void staff has killed a lot of families, you're gonna have to be more specific
hold down r key
charge to full, pop scriers, release, charge again to half and release then quell while crying saying pls pls pls no explode
Scrier is bait
before it gets too dangerous to do charge attacks or to spam M1s
scrier is an underdeveloped skill. it works for short dps burst, which is basically never needed
yeah it really seems RNG sometimes wheather the peril will kill u or not
especialy at +95%
its so people get baited into running gun psyker
I only really use scriers with Columnus
true aim is enough
Why would I want a gun? So uncivilized.
boss damage
I just can't imagine using it an entire run just to kill boss a little quicker
Isn't that what we keep zealots around for?
NOT ENOUGH CRIT
pretty much it for me, which is why I don't gunker
100% is enough crit maus
sorry
a gun is cooler because it reminds cadians everything they can do, a wizard can do much cooler
I feel like my gunker is a smarter veteran
ogryn rock is cooler than cadia anyway
Wizards can't supply ammo
that’s a piece of cadia
exactly
fuckin took the words out of my mouth
made cooler because its ogryn throwing it
ok as much as i'd like to continue this, pretty sure I'll have work tomorrow so i'm gonna hit the sack
f
psykers are basically bite sized ogryns
F
if i turned all ogryn into a hivemind i would combine their strength to throw whatever is left of cadia on top of tertium
not 100% but I did tell my boss that I was gonna be back in town today, so i'd better be available just in case
good night siblings
Would the blackstone fortress be considered part of cadia now?
one of the classic blunders
I despise vacations anyways
more than 3 days without work and I stop putting on pants in the morning
I need the purpose
Pants are cringe
I dont think thats a healthy outlook but you do you I guess
I want you to think about your most hated enemy in darktide
What is that enemy?
I said smikers, not snipers
the fuck is a smiker
smite psyker (derogatory)
They wear pants too
I also wasnt even talking about the pants thing
was talking about this
smicycle
I'm a service technician. I fix problems for people, and the actual fixing of the problem makes my brain release the happy chemicals. If I don't go to work, then I don't have that source of the happy chemicals. It's probably not healthy, but I live in America. Being healthy is for rich people. I'm just trying to suffer as little as possible.
good blessings for trauma staff?
I enjoy what I do, and my customers like me for it. That's not a bad thing to me
moment
in any case, dog's been walked and bed calls
Warp Flurry + anything else
blaze nexus
Or whatever the chain blessing is
rending?
Warp Nexus + Blazing spirit for soulfire builds, Warp Flurry + Rending Shockwave for brittleness build
thanks
blaze nexus is pretty much the "meta" for trauma
I should look into making a brittleness build one of these days
that's fire on crit?
ye
aka "I just want to set the world on fire"
brittle isnt as strong overall because its not a massive % and iirc you dont get it on the hit that applies it on trauma
it sure is really good on melee maelstrom tho
because infinite crushers
I like purgatus staff to an extent, but it always feels llike im annoying my team
you probably are, but fuck em
^

cool blue fire thrower is cooler than lame ahh flying homing mind shards
guess they cant complain when I melt a rager horde
Neither when I stop an entire horde while they're getting downed rejects
I do and will complain when I can't see shits.

you already cant see tho


Swing the melee and hit something eventually ig
The true ventilation purge game play we've all been looking for
shrimply intuit the position of the enemy from the smell of heresy
I'd ask how are you so acquainted with the scent of heresy but then I remember why we're all here. And a commissar would likely appear just to shoot me
Random question: for malefic momentum or something like that, do you guys use just your melee to gain stacks or a gun?
They are everywhere!
I don't know what you're talking about?
non warp attacks buff warp attacks, iirc the talent
There's a perk for psykers on the right side tree iirc where non-warp kills boost warp damage. I was wondering if people equipped a gun or simply used their melee and took a force staff
I just couldn't remember the name for the perk lol
Fair
i assume most take iit, kinda forget it exists, and end up just using the +1 to poop after meleeing things, without noticing
Lol
Actually. I might take brain burst, malefic momentum with purgatus staff and see how that goes
Most builds I see just go with the quell option instead
🤷♂️
I mean. It wouldn't be hard to gain stacks
would it be worthwhile though
not really?
A full +20% might be something on brain burst
F
momentum is bottom right
Forgor.
plus the stacks just last 8 seconds
🤔 would it buff smite for a single hit, or as long as it's being used?
based on the language, all hits until the 8s is up
it's not exactly a damage ability, but i've always wondered about stacking buffs on it
stims, empowered, momentum, etc
obv not optimal, but i'm curious
IDK what base damage is
if you can get smite to do like, 800 dps per target it'll probably be good
I count +15%, +20%, +20%, +125%, assuming the stars align and you don't want to run cringe.
imagine if enfeeble applies to smite itself lol
may be worth testing in those custom psykaniums where you can spawn whatever you want
Its a lot of stars to align though
it's for the funny™️
again, fully aware it wouldn't be optimal
but maybe knowing how it works will be useful for something in the future
Thats 5 crits, 5 non warp kills, max peril, and empowered psionic
Would be fucking hilarious though
You start palpatining
but it actually does something
i'd really like to see it lmao
but i gotta turn in today, and i won't be able to set something like that up for a while
ill see what I can do
It's not good I don't ever see anyone use it. Only on gun psykers maybe.
This was done on Auric Maelstrom, the more elites you have the merrier this build gets. You can view this build among other things in The Psyker Atheneum:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Theres your Palpatine
Psyker go zap zap zap
with run n gun, can you charge rmb while sprinting? or is it just the lmb?
figured as much 😄
only for lb
R&G would be good on guns if you could reload while sprinting too
they camped in this small room (no idea why) and then we lost
ah shit
the screenshot
Run N Gun would be good on laspistol X but guess what, they don't have it in the pool 
wait they don't
?
surprising
Laspistol X has like the best and most usable hipfire of all the guns in the game but yeah lacking run n gun
Laspistol used to give more crit chance on ads idk if its still the case.
The old one pre 13 anyway.
Vet gameplay looks so boring
electrical dagger, then pfoom pfoom gun
melts everything
i don't want to carry anymore. i want to be carried

i have youtoob on autoplayh
good time
anybody wanna carry me
a5histg
Ladies and gentleman,
After 3 weeks grinding done and 1.5 million ordo dockets spent.
I present to you the balenciaga psyker.
But does it compare with the average, cool Surge staff enjoyer?
honestly looks kinda mid :v
Don't care coz it's expensive lmao
Young rich
Aight I feel hollow now
oh hi melk
should I eat surge and give it to the other staff by replacing flurry?
i don't have nexus 3 or 4
just 2
but right one has 80 damage and maniac/flak
Bruh I can't clutch with heavy sword on zealot.
I think I'm cursed with that weapon.
I just sit back and cast smite lol
i'm cooking lads.
Warp charges with SG...?
Well, they do offer Warp Resist… once you stack them 
This is the hard mode build 
battle meditation yeah but might not even need it with transfer peril on weapon

BM is not very consistent IMO
With void bowling it kinda is
if i been playing ws with SG using surge staff surely i can with bowling ball staff

should be good enough on hordes
You posted a voidstrike?
because i did x (surge staff warp charges scrier) surely i can y ( bowling ball warp chaerges scrier)
if I give up battle meditation and go for mettle I got one free point 
siblings i found this wiki
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There's PC, sg move spd, 15 toughness, pierce on assail.
I'd do pierce on assail or PC depending on how much you use assail

what's the best situation to use assail ?
Hey boys anyone willing and patient here to help a fellow psyker with a penance?
give me your code
Depends on your build
sending..
2490960034 got ogryn with shield as well

Oh hai mark.
Hello everybody my name is Markiplier
waz poppen?

Can't wait to get 3 sus teammates.
semifixed
lemme join
i dont envy the pubs we'll get
Good luck you two and remember to clean your shoes
Wtf this lvl 1400 guy is running without nexus.

Wouldn't be my choice of perk too but okay.
Ranged damage (elites)
what to do to make this a better staff? i am running dome, warpcharges and a duellist sword
also enhanced blitz?
this is 100% some smite territory 
change run n gun to warpnexus, is always a good choice
and infested dmg to flak or maniak
critchance for the burn dot to make crit dmg?
the staff somehow feels really weak, even against small mobs
it shouldnt
purgatus rn is just not that good
but it can perform well.
but do try changing to flak. or maniak
pugatus is mostly a horde clearing staf
so more supportive for the team?
should i use right or leftclick?
As an ogryn main I hate purgatus users as you cannot see anything when someone is purging.
Use your sense of smell - it's nurgle's cultists
LMB is for stagger, and RMB is for damage
Well... Selfish posted a video of auric damation with purgatus LBM only and it's also deals damage ... 🙂
die
my favourite part of the purgatus staff is when I say it's purgin time and then I purg all over the heretics
I use purge and its pretty good
right
left is just for stagger
the left taps are pretty nice for stagger
most weapons on this game are useable on any difficulty
but some def have it easier
i think they are fine
the other things need a nerf
i think crit weapons should def have lower base dmg, but have even higher crit dmg, so u REALLY play into the gamble of it
and ofc more ways to get critchance
As long as you bring an armor killing melee like DS mk 4 or deimos, purgatus will work just fine
twas fun
Bruh look at the 1400 level psyker's crit rate and mine.
RIP warp nexus. 


At least a while ago the crit rates weren't accurate
pretty sure they still aren't
what pants are these
“Shipboard”, I think they are called
awesome tysm
@plucky flax 
This guy does no damage.

are there any melee/gun builds with psyker that are good?
siblings ...
Yes, you want a good gun, scriers gaze and DD
Click heads and win
For melee Duelling Sword IV
Why is brain burst so bad 😭
works on my machine
Who we are to judge... Still better than Furry 🙂
More tame than all the Juri SF6 club names
Also still borderline appropriate name 🙂
I would only report if i see nickname Erebus 🙂
🥹
Does it make sense to put Unarmored damage on a Trauma staff? Are legs generally unarmored? 
I don’t think Trauma defaults its damage to whichever body part is damaged (I’m clueless, though - it occurs to me that it only ever targets the base “health” type the unit has)
Like DoTs do
I see, makes sense
Unarmoured is not the best perk for it, though
So what is?
Unarmoured units collapse when touched by the epicentre
Flak, Carapace, Maniac perks are good
Flak is probably the most universal one
unyeilding
I've been running Voidstrike and I'm thinking of making a build for the twins. Apparently the trauma works pretty well on them
for ogryns and bosses
Crit chance perk is also very good if you have Blazing Spirit + Warp Nexus blessings on it
I don’t think I would default to Trauma for doing boss/Bulwark/Reaper damage
Yeah rolled Warp Nexus III by default which is something. Just need to get more trauma staves because blessings aren't shared 
Psyker melee weapons have better anti-boss/Ogryn properties
oh sorry thought was in general
Voidstirke to the face seems to be doing alright against armored big lads
So if Trauma doesn't target a specific bodypart, do the different armor type damage modifiers just proc if the target has that armor on anywhere?
Also are there any other staves which work like that?
Fair 






