#psyker-class

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untold widget
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why hold it, the other one is better and he doesn't know the blessing

hot zephyr
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Cus there's no downside to holding it until you find something you want to actually put shockwave onto

untold widget
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clutters up the inventory

hot zephyr
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looks at own inventory yeah i guess it's a bit of a mess lol

untold widget
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I only keep one of each weapon that I'm going to use

strong gulch
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I'd persoanlly use this one. Trauma really wants that charge rate.

untold widget
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well it serves a different purpose than void

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so

strong gulch
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Trauma is aoe.

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and more cc

hot zephyr
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Yeah, truama's job is partly damage but partly CC, void is pure damage

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You'll never outdamage that void with trauma

untold widget
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well void can single target CC

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but

hot zephyr
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That trauma can CC a whole crusher pack and laugh at them

untold widget
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yeah

hot zephyr
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Void can only poop it's pants at a crusher pack

untold widget
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well no

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I dumpster crusher packs with void

kindred ivy
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void does insane dmg and so does TF

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TF aoe seems easier to hit tho

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as u aim the ground and u can see where

hot zephyr
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Yeah, if you take the stun shield with Trauma you can essentially draw a death-line that nothing can cross

bleak tulip
quasi grotto
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So I was giving blaze trauma a try earlier, definitely deletes any melees that come at you and your team, but I was struggling with dealing with guns properly

hot zephyr
quasi grotto
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If my allies aren't picking them off properly I just have no good answer to them aside from underwhelming lmb

plucky flax
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Need extra snipers here too for the ultimate meme.

hot zephyr
plucky flax
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I will use the most op staff for this modifier.

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Hopefully it'll get nerfed. whatthefuck_heresy

tough stump
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100 crowd control
0 damage

quasi grotto
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What do you do as blaze trauma if your teammates aren't dealing with specials and gunners properly

tough stump
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i use revolver

plucky flax
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Wut blaze trauma bad far from best staff.

tough stump
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is assail count as ranged?

hot zephyr
wet compass
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And empowered psyonycs

quasi grotto
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No wildfire if you take assail tho

orchid nest
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@untold widget summoning you for this KEKW_ogryn

untold widget
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what did I miss?

kindred ivy
orchid nest
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oh someone mentioned wildfire I figured you were about to say it

kindred ivy
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most the time wildfire is useless

untold widget
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oh yeah, wildfire is bad

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pretty much only take it if you have 0 use for anything else, which is almost never

kindred ivy
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if you already apply loards of fire u dont need it

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if u apply fier to very few/select enemies

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its when u actually use it

hot zephyr
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It's useful on a purgatus build since there's often few other filler talents that make sense with purgatus

kindred ivy
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not really

untold widget
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no, I don't use it for purg

kindred ivy
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purgatus will already max stack

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flames

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before it can spread

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and can only spread if the other enemy has elss flames than the first one

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u need to consistently apply decent flames to a low ammount of enemies

hot zephyr
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It will spread flames by itself through a horde even while your attention is elsewhere

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Again, not great, but not useless

keen vale
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Captain's log, December 21.
Happy with my setup overall. My sword lops heads off with a disconcerting ease. My trauma staff makes short work of big brutes, or at least makes them trip over long enough for my associates to go ham in total impunity. I adore using the bubble, its refresh rate is so quick it's just plain broken.
I can't use BB because my staff already does that job. I can't use Smite because my sword already does that job. That leaves only Assail, which I find slow and weird and clunky to use. I get the feeling I'm not using it properly. Useful against Muties and unarmored Ragers maybe but... so far, I've got a hard time finding a good slot for that ability.

kindred ivy
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oh yeah its def not useless

untold widget
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heres a 29/30 purg build which has the option of Wildfire

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but for purg, Empathic Evasion is miles better to take

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due to the rapid crit rate of the staff RMB

obtuse moth
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Only triggers after death animation. Most notably a bug.

Needs at least 2 stacks on the target to spread the fire.

Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.

Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.

Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.

5m radius from blazed target.

Will be spread by corpses if they have been lit after death when the Soulblaze effect ends on them.
kindred ivy
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btw how fucked are these staves:, i play with them uhh seldom , and htye fine, but like aparently they are ultra cursed

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i find them fine most of the tim

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but what does the psycher chat hive mind thingks about the>?

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the purg and zap ones i had for a long time

untold widget
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on left, change sprint to flak and blaze to surge, and on right change barrage to flurry

kindred ivy
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i recall terrifiying barrage working pretty decently back when

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but not as much now

orchid nest
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the purg is the best one among the bunch but they are all useable at least. the trauma one is my least favorite, you can play it as a hybrid one with true aim still

untold widget
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staves have so much suppression on them already, that barrage doesn't have enough effect to sacrifice flurry

kindred ivy
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that TF one i cna chage 2 things on it still

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is the 68 charge rate that bad?

eager mantle
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They aren't cursed just not what you would call optimal

hot zephyr
untold widget
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its not ideal, but still usable. with void you don't always have to full charge so its not the worst

hot zephyr
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Ranged shield of some kind does the same job

kindred ivy
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i meant like VS

untold widget
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i've run a 50% charge rate void in aurics and been fine

eager mantle
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Behold my cursed staff

untold widget
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oh my

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a one shot wonder

eager mantle
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Brunt trying to kill my psyker

strong gulch
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Love to see it.

kindred ivy
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rolling time

idle bay
untold widget
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inb4 run and gun and punishing salvo

tough stump
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im playing with randoms

kindred ivy
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hadron has robbed me

untold widget
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so close

strong gulch
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omfg

hot zephyr
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It's not the same staff

strong gulch
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get rekt

hot zephyr
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he's trolling

kindred ivy
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time for it again

idle bay
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Sprint speed and run and gun - she tries to hint at something ๐Ÿ™‚

eager mantle
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Hadron thinking staffs don't have a charge attack

kindred ivy
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i had 2

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time to roll

idle bay
strong gulch
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pray for the real / new one

kindred ivy
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ig i can take nexus.

untold widget
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yeah eat for nexus

hot zephyr
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Yeah that's an eat for nexus

eager mantle
kindred ivy
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is this sitll decent?

eager mantle
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Or just take it

orchid nest
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it's a 3/4 blaze trauma at least if you don't have one at all yet

untold widget
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I'ma make an 80 damage 0 blast radius 0 charge rate 80 warp 80 quell trauma staff with surge and run and gun

kindred ivy
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(as you can tell, i dont run staves at all)

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most of the time anywya

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so i dont know optimal

hot zephyr
untold widget
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its usable, depending on the rolls

kindred ivy
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why not worht?

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quell speed that bad?

strong gulch
kindred ivy
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yeah quell speed be XD on this one

hot zephyr
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You could roll some more brunt's to get a better one to spend the plasteel on, and all it costs is Ordos

kindred ivy
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wanna see a magic trick?

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this number

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is about to dissapear

hot zephyr
untold widget
kindred ivy
hot zephyr
untold widget
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not as good as my current

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except that crit bonus

hot zephyr
kindred ivy
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time to roll

hot zephyr
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I roll like 3-5 at a time

strong gulch
kindred ivy
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i clearly dont

strong gulch
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I know I am min maxing but dang it.

robust relic
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does a DS4 need a high level uncanny? or is rank 2 (16%) enough?

kindred ivy
untold widget
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what were the blessings that you kept groaner damage?

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dang nice

orchid nest
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good rending trauma

kindred ivy
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ig i change to carapace maniac?

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or flak?

untold widget
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that staff is hella nice

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yeah

orchid nest
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you want flak for sure for bruisers

hot zephyr
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Flak, Maniac, Carapace, pick two

untold widget
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you can play damage roulette and just change it as desired

strong gulch
kindred ivy
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how low charge rate is too low?

untold widget
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that's pushing it, i'd move on

orchid nest
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traumas charge rate scaling is pretty extreme so it gets bad fast

quasi grotto
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I have a 60 charge rate trauma and you can feel it for sure

hot zephyr
kindred ivy
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so this is better?

strong gulch
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If trauma has below 75-ish blast radius or charge rate, I don't roll it/

robust relic
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Does anyone know the breakpoints? does uncanny 12-24% rnk 1-4 matter which rank for killing in fewer hits?

kindred ivy
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78 blast and charge rate?

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dmg still good but elss important?

hot zephyr
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Yeah for Fire Trauma damage isn't important

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You don't want it as a dump stat, but the other four are way more important on fire trauma, and you absolutely want 78%+ for blast and charge

strong gulch
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I disagree about damage not mattering, but for sure with the soulblaze damage, it matters less.

untold widget
kindred ivy
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anyone wanna run for some mats?

strong gulch
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If you are using trauma as CC, damage also matters less.

kindred ivy
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i just rolled 70+ brunts TF

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and i need some mats XD

strong gulch
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I know uncanny strikes was fixed this last patch. Uncanny 3 and 4 were the same for a bit. They aren't anymore.

untold widget
untold widget
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oh I forgot my alt psyker has my Baby on it

strong gulch
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Oh I can't read.

Now I can't remember. RIP

plucky flax
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@bleak tulip your staff is op pls nerf

hot zephyr
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With all this trauma staff talk, what talent builds are people using? I find myself unsure where to start on trauma having never used it. When I played at release it was nearly unplayable bad above malice difficulty.

left dagger
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anyone got a good talent tree for gunpsyker?

hot zephyr
left dagger
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would prefer smite for emergency CC since already have IAG for sniping

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unless its optimal with assail

hot zephyr
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Here's the core of my bubble assail build

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IAG to stack Malific Momentum, swap to Assail for free RMBs for mega damage and then spam LMBs to top your peril above 85% and swap back to IAG to warp-ride on passive quell

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You have 3 extra free-points to mess with

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If you prefer Scrier's Gaze instead of Bubble Shield, just take it instead

pale forum
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for that achivment(what ever is call) where you need to kill 25 pox hounds do i need BB or i can use assail ?

hot zephyr
pale forum
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fuck

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thx

safe merlin
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Does the surge staff do weakspot damage?

pale forum
safe merlin
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Does Disrupt Destiny work with surge staff?

left dagger
kindred ivy
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what is the hivemind's take no DD?

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disrut destibingus

kindred ivy
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add in elite kills give cdr

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and 12% cdr on curious

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u are SPAMMING

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abilities

hot zephyr
pale forum
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i am probably only psyker who use las pistol ๐Ÿ˜„

hot zephyr
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I just find with bubble shield with sanctuary and the fact the peril never active quells that Mind In Motion and Inpsiring Prescene are dead-talents

hot zephyr
obtuse moth
left dagger
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huh really, ill have to try crit aura then

pale forum
obtuse moth
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new laspistol is bad, old one is good

pale forum
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there are two ???

obtuse moth
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laspistol is best psyker unyielding dps

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yes

pale forum
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lol not sure what i have

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still sad i can't use Boltgun ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

hot zephyr
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Everything else you can play around with

gloomy magnet
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freaky one cant use boltygun TwT

left dagger
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thanks gonna give this a try

kindred ivy
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on the TF the dmg is only really high o the center

pale forum
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why psyker is not weaker then veteran or zealot

kindred ivy
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is there a reason why i need the big blast radius?

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does the embrittleness target everyone that even got 1 dmg from the blast?

hot zephyr
# left dagger thanks gonna give this a try

Once you get used to the rotation of Gun -> EP Assail -> Gun or Melee (to conserve ammo) -> repeat it's a very fun build. Juggling effectively "two" primary weapons makes it a bit busy tho

kindred ivy
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also, how low of dmg is too low for a blaze TF?

left dagger
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an gunspyker with assail shield did clutch a hiint damnation the other day too

kindred ivy
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and for a blaze TF is 71 radius enuff?

worthy spoke
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I love this staff so much. non-stop blastin

spice veldt
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and the outer radius from 4m to 10m

hot zephyr
quasi junco
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if we can randomly get stats down to teh 1%, why can't we randomly get stats to the 100%?

untold widget
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because then we'd be hunted down by Omega null's

robust sierra
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You guys think scriers gaze is any good?

quasi junco
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on a gunker that knows how to play, yes

robust sierra
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Thinking of trying it out for the first time

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I run columnus most of the time on vet anyways so

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I probably should do fine

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Best blitz to run with it is smite right?

quasi junco
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or assail for medium ranged targets

hot zephyr
robust sierra
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I've ran shield most of the time when I'm not running shriek, but granted I don't play pysker all to much anyways

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So yeah maybe gunker might be good for me

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Who knows

unkempt parcel
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It may be not the best staff but its my staff peepo_blush

hot zephyr
robust sierra
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What's EP?

hot zephyr
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Empowered Psionics. It's the middle keystone talent

robust sierra
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Ah OK I run that on all my builds

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But yeah I personally don't like assail too much

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I prefer brainburst

robust sierra
hot zephyr
robust sierra
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Ah ok columnus

hot zephyr
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Eventually I'll roll a better one with maniacs instead of reload speed, but this works pretty nicely

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Considering I got it as an emperor's blessing purple it worked out pretty nicely

kindred ivy
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after 70 brunt TF and selling everything, ive got these here to lvl andstuff

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any reason why 78 is the breakpoint?

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like why is 78 that good?

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whats the breakpoin in 78 blast radios

hot zephyr
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That's probably the floor for rounding to the max radius size

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Just like how 76% burn is the highest you need to apply max soulblaze on purgatus

kindred ivy
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god the obscurus is so weird to clear hordes

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its like light, heavy, then light light heavy

spice veldt
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you'll want to cancel after the heavy

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light -> heavy -> cancel to get back to the first light

bleak tulip
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it was such a pain im glad its gone

left dagger
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proceeds to die to mauler overhead ๐Ÿ˜ญ , ill go back to surge

kindred ivy
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if that works

hasty breach
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what should i do with this

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i know it suits flurry trauma ok but cold i eke a fire trauma out of it

kindred ivy
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how good are LMB spam builds ?

hot zephyr
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80 dmg 80 blast going to feel like dropping nukes

kindred ivy
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ergh

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only the center receives dmg

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the outside barely get dmg

hasty breach
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charge rate too low for fire trauma do you think?

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im not sure why the atheneum is so strict on MUST be 78+

kindred ivy
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breakpoint

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of range

hot zephyr
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It's serviceable as fire trauma, but you'll need to change both blessing cus you MUST have Nexus/Blazing

kindred ivy
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like, my revolver deals with with elites faster than this.

hot zephyr
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Like 70% is a good stat regardless

robust relic
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so I've started leveling a second psyker for melk-purposes...I never used assail before, its kinda fun, though I suspect me standing in the back throwing mindbullets isnt exactly the most useful thing I could be doing

hot zephyr
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78%+ is just so you get the absolute max, which really makes a difference on fire trauma since you need to spread your soulblaze round

hasty breach
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ok. i'll play it safe and flurry trauma maybe then

hot zephyr
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Which is why it's so hard to make a fire trauma

kindred ivy
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ut kegut doesnt oneshot any elite

hasty breach
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thanks taer

kindred ivy
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what am i mising on mine

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so far it looks like just overhipe

hot zephyr
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Fixed up my knife. It wrecks ogryns pretty hard now.

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With some siphon stacks / warp rider I was critting for nearly 2k

kindred ivy
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am i suposed to be doing Disrupt or something stupid

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od u use scriers for this shit?

hot zephyr
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Truama is a CC / Damage Hybrid build. It doesn't one-shot elites like void does

kindred ivy
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huh

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i'll be honest

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this feels worse than shriek smiete

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the CC isnt as high as smite, and revolver kills elites

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didnt like half of u say "sorry if it isnt a instakill its useless, best CC is death etc etc" when i was saying how good smite was

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and now this shit

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mediocre single target dmg, blaze spreads aoe IG< but the initial explosion basically only does dmg in the center

plucky flax
spice veldt
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well if single-target damage is your benchmark, then sure

hot zephyr
spice veldt
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trauma is very dogshit on that front

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and if what you need is single-target damage, then look elsewhere that isn't psyker's staffs

plucky flax
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Oh yeah the mk6 knife is so fun.

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I like it on all 3 classes.

kindred ivy
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is that when i presented my build it was met with "does no dmg/doesnt instakill so its useless"

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i'll be honest this staff feels like shit

spice veldt
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well some people said that

hot zephyr
spice veldt
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a few people saying that =/= everyone in the chat saying that

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a pretty easy concept to understand, I hope

kindred ivy
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it was the vocal majority

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when i first talked about it

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i mean the staf IS FUN

plucky flax
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Oh yeah purg + knife is funny against monster. 15 burn and 16 bleed whatthefuck_heresy

kindred ivy
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dont get me wrong

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but boy does it run like ASS

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ig its good to remove armor?

spice veldt
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i only care about gunker, trauma, assail, and melee, so i didn't step into that conversation

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you basically don't run rending except on melee maelstrom

kindred ivy
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i imagine that everyone hit even "slightly" by the explosion gets the rending right?

spice veldt
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ye

kindred ivy
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ok so its not that bad

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but still

spice veldt
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but rending is whatever in pubs and not in melee maelstrom

hot zephyr
kindred ivy
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hand cannon

spice veldt
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revolver is nice but the only melee elite you're cleaving more than once is the dreg rager

kindred ivy
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i dont need to kill all elites with revolver due to the snowball effect of killing elites -> flame stacks

spice veldt
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that's true

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guess we share the same perspective on it

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just bring trauma on melee maelstrom and call it a day

kindred ivy
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ig if am feeling something different i'll bring it

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without crits i can kill bombs, snipers, trappers, both shotgunners, and the flak gunner.

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with 2 shots basically every elite except muties, ogryn and mauler

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and most of them if i dont onetap without crit i can still smite shirek

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actually i dnot neve need to shriek if i headshot them and they are still alive, a EP smite will finish off any flamer / rager i headshotted without critting

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and if i just even bodyshot any of them EP smite shriek will also clear all of them

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fucking TF overrated AS FUCK

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i have to try making one with blaze another day to see

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and my revolve ronly has 67% pen (79% dmg, 80% critbonus tho) 10% elite dmg , 25% flak.

hot zephyr
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Blazing Trauma supposedly does "way more damage" than Shockwave, but it's also really hard to build because you need god-rolls for base stats then a specific two blessings or it doesn't even work properly.

kindred ivy
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even a mauler that i just bodyshot without crit will get killed by shirek EP smite

hot zephyr
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Yeah, i mean truama's goal isn't just steamrolling everything. It's point it is kills trash, and what elites it doesn't kill it leaves crippled and knocked down for your team to finish

kindred ivy
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after testing in the psycharnium.

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what trash does it kill? it barelly does dmg if u dont hit dead center

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it will just yeet shit around without doing any dmg

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at most it will apply brittle

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which is useless on horde enemies anyway

hot zephyr
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Ok well I don't have anything constructive to offer then, I'm sorry you are disappointed with the results

kindred ivy
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i'll test with blaze

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one day

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but ig blaze needs me to test in game

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as psycharnium no good to test horde dmg

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i GUESS blaze TF can do more, but needs id say at elast 3 crits to properlly start steamrolling the horde

sacred falcon
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Fellow Gunkers please tell me if I fucked up

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This seems good but at the same time

kindred ivy
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surgical will overkill most threats

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just check if u can tap fire shotgunners and the flak gunner

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imo, those are VERY important to just tap without needing to stack the scrit

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source: i run a similar revolver, and i depend on those elites to proc flames

hot zephyr
kindred ivy
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then ur ๐Ÿ‘Œ

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anything else sohuld be doable by headshot + EP smite, or just critting the head

sacred falcon
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RNG blessed me first time ๐Ÿ™

kindred ivy
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if u running smite that is, assail and others

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will also finihs off anything that the revolver doesnt kill

sacred falcon
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really just playing around with talents and I have headburst rn

kindred ivy
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does the VS also have the problem of anything that isnt hit dead center takes no dmg?

sacred falcon
kindred ivy
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oh this type of gunker, i am not sure if revolver is good for this

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u kinda really wanna stack up that scrier

sacred falcon
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tbf im just fucking around

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yeah I was thinking

kindred ivy
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might be good with a goo sword

sacred falcon
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bro I know nearly nothing abiut talents at this point ๐Ÿ˜”

kindred ivy
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unironically?

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legit legit unironically?

sacred falcon
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legit legit

kindred ivy
sacred falcon
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I just

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look up shit

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yeah those builds

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and guide builds lmao

kindred ivy
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y might have good sucess

sacred falcon
kindred ivy
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oh now thats thats nice

sacred falcon
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Only sword I run and im trying to find the blessings

kindred ivy
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that word is pretty cool

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sword

sacred falcon
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prob should change Exorcist for Slaughterer

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Also idk about the Voidstaff

kindred ivy
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bruh the fucking voidstrike's explosion does jack shit too

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lmao

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i mena the projectile does pierce everything

hot zephyr
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Kinda the point. Voidstrike is a shwoop da whoop laser beam

sacred falcon
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Staggers everything tho

kindred ivy
sacred falcon
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I think so?

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But Charges quickly enough to stagger 5 of them in few seconds

kindred ivy
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it seems to stpo on the first crusher

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who said it could oneshot a group of crushers?

hot zephyr
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No one sane, even a gazing void can't do that as far as I know

kindred ivy
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yeah so

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...

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revolver is just too good rn XD

hot zephyr
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Void does seem to explode when it hits a crusher

kindred ivy
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theres legit no reason why a ervolver should outperform soo many staves in so many ways

sacred falcon
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Gunkers rise up

hot zephyr
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It does stagger even a bulwark

tidal scaffold
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I hate revolver supremacy I hate revolver supremacy

hot zephyr
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Even with a shot into the shield

sacred falcon
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why play cringy cadian soldier when you can play a batshit space cowboy

kindred ivy
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ok now am actually fucking mad

quasi junco
kindred ivy
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not with a vet with yout

primal tusk
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love the jolly christmas spirit

kindred ivy
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and also u only need to kill 2 elites per fight to snowball

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soo many ppl talking shit saying my ttk is bad, when i onetap any elite with a fucking revolver or one tap them then EP smite them down (no i dont evne need shriek half the time)

quasi junco
#

well Fatshark went the Valve method of making revolvers do crazy insane damage instead of being a sidearm only used in emergency situations

#

revolvers do more damage than a bolter

kindred ivy
#

i do agree they are overbuffed af

quasi junco
#

how is that anywhere near lore accurate?

kindred ivy
#

remove rending

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rending in general makes soo many weapons soo strong

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if i dont 1 tap crit headshot a elite i can kill them with EP smite without needing shriek (altho likelly i will cause why the fuck wouldnt it?)

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and in the ones that survive said crit headshot, EP smite will kill them

#

legit

#

voidstrike and trauma force? severelly overrated

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revolver supremacy is fucking stupid tho

quasi junco
#

They aren't, they are great if built right

#

critstrike build with disrupt destiny is my jam on voidstrike

hot zephyr
kindred ivy
#

8k

quasi junco
#

oh lol ๐Ÿคฃ

kindred ivy
#

but allright

#

800k ordo

#

its DOG SHIT

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i am more mad that i was told it was suposed to be "soo much better"

#

or somehting

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ITS DOG SHIT

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ALL THE FUCKING STAVES

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ARE FUCKING DOGSHIT

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WHY DOES THE REVOLVER DO EVERYHTING SOO WELLL!?!?!?!?!?!

quasi junco
#

trauma blaze is fun for blasting circles at your feet

kindred ivy
#

KID NAMED FLAME SHREK

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smite CC is unparalelled.
revolver dmg is also unparalelled

primal tusk
kindred ivy
#

mediocre performace staves VS one zappy maus

#

holy shit

hot zephyr
#

Yeah and that's the eternal struggle. You get in a lobby and get the veteran complaining you're taking his ammo and psykers aren't supposed to use guns, but all the staves are kind of specialized weapons that have drawbacks.

#

I just tell the vet if he runs ammo regen aura I will not need any ammo

primal tusk
#

my vet is running ammo regen and ALL the ammo perks, i dont ever pick up ammo in a mission HyperKitty

red cave
#

A vet that won't run survivalist is a sad vet

kindred ivy
#

final conclusion, VoidStrike and TraumaForce is overrated as FUCK.
Based on numbers i just ran.
my revolver headshots without critting : flack guners, and both shotgunners
with a crit: dreg gunner, flak rager, all elites, except mutie.
all shooters and other runners cna be EP smited from full without a problem
All those aboe here can be finished with EP smite if i just body shit them or not crit WITIHOUT FLAME SHREK. (but of u will still use shrek cause why wouldnt you)

Ogryns, maulers and muties that have been been not killed by the revolver die to EP smite + shriek, (or i just tap twice, at which poit EP smite klls them)
i dont need Shrek to kill shit, i use it cause why not. also all the staves are dogshit. i will never use them.

olive ember
#

๐Ÿค” I canโ€™t tell if this is satire

kindred ivy
#

no, i ran the numbers here DX

wanton sandal
kindred ivy
#

also most specials can be EP smited + shrek without needing the revolver.

olive ember
kindred ivy
#

it doesnt go trough ogryns

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it stops on them the VS

olive ember
#

Nope

kindred ivy
#

dont forget they are also perma stunned while smited

olive ember
#

All the ogryns have more than 12 hitmass

kindred ivy
#

yeha.

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then the clams of oneshotting groups of crushers is a lie

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all the claims of outperforming revolver is shite

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needs crits to oneshot what i can just tap in the head and permastun

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this chat is the biggest spread of missinformation ive seen

olive ember
#

๐Ÿค”

kindred ivy
#

EP SMITE SUPREME

#

EP SMITE FOREVER

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๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿšฝ spinXD ๐Ÿซณ โšก

#

ZIBBIDY TOILET

#

ZIBBIDY ZOP ZOP ZOP ZAP ZAP ZAP

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ZIBBIDY ZOP ZAP YES

quasi junco
#

Hopefully you aren't a smite bot

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

test the numbers

#

what the ervolver doesnt kill, most of the time a EP smite will finish off

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and a EP smite + shriek will kill it even faster

quasi junco
#

lol i havent ran EP since patch 13

#

warp charges for purg/trauma, disrupt for voidstrike

willow hazel
#

it's still good with assail

wanton sandal
#

the insane uptime you get from full warp charge stacks is amazing

shadow wigeon
# kindred ivy test the numbers

There are so many ways to kill things, optimizing for burst one-shot some targets is just one thing you can do. Gun psyker is generally the strongest psyker right now on raw output, but the difference is small.

kindred ivy
#

i remember couple days ago this entire chat was like "sorry but if u dont insta kill an enemy its basically useless" to "yeah its similar but it doesnt matter much"

#

its hilarious

shadow wigeon
#

And the biggest problem with your suggestion is having to use Smite, and look at yourself in the mirror the next morning.

red cave
#

Smite is pretty great

shadow wigeon
wanton sandal
kindred ivy
#

ZIBBIDY TOILET
ZIBBIDY ZOP ZOP ZOP ZAP ZAP ZAP
ZIBBIDY ZOP ZAP YES

#

i fucking LOVE SMITE

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๐Ÿ”ซ ๐Ÿšฝ spinXD ๐Ÿซณ โšก

shadow wigeon
#

im jk im not gonna yuck anyone's yum. I do enjoy it when someone is in the mood to zap.

kindred ivy
#

nothing stops me

quasi junco
kindred ivy
kindred ivy
#

I LISTENED TO THE BELOVED HE TOLD ME TO SMITE HIS ENEMIES

#

I WILL

#

I WILL SMITE THEM ALL

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

โšก handleft XX handright โšก

red cave
#

LOL

kindred ivy
#

FEEAR MEEEEE ... ops

shadow wigeon
#

I tried EP Smite for awhile but I died too much

kindred ivy
#

BELOVED, THEY ARENT LISTENING

shadow wigeon
#

of boredom

kindred ivy
#

clearlly u were not killing enuff

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strike true, smite truer

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as they say

shadow wigeon
#

I don't think anyone says that

kindred ivy
#

clearlly

#

has not listened to the beloved

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false sibling

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untrue awakening

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unfit to serve unfit to smite

#

empty carcass lack of zap zips and zops

quasi junco
#

i run smite on auric damn almost exclusively and maybe use it twice per mission

#

i like doing actual damage and pewpewing than being a CC bot

kindred ivy
#

i showed multiple scoreboards

#

of me doing top dmg

#

on auric missions

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

using SMITE

#

EP smite rakcs up dmg super fast, 30+ enemies, getting 125 dps

#

more less

kindred ivy
#

add in shrek and elite kills form revolver

kindred ivy
#

FUKCING ZAAAAp

plucky flax
#

3 psykers but I was getting swarmed by specials and horde. Somehow the guy with purga didn't get most smol chaffs kill. ๐Ÿ˜’

kindred ivy
#

all staves pale in comparison the th revolve rsmite

#

and that

#

is real magic

wanton sandal
shadow wigeon
wanton sandal
#

i usually see illisi or ds4

plucky flax
kindred ivy
#

their AOE is SHIT

plucky flax
#

Deimos is worse dps than ds4 but you can get deflector.

kindred ivy
#

only the center gets dmged

kindred ivy
wanton sandal
shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

only the center of the area

#

does dmg

#

i just ran on the psycharnium

#

the VS does penetrate

#

but the explosion itself

#

no dmg outside the center

plucky flax
#

Mice out here posting scoreboards with no plasteels pick up. whatthefuck_heresy

kindred ivy
#

it does apply the brittleness

plucky flax
#

The shame on you. whatthefuck_heresy

kindred ivy
#

i will actually need plasteel

#

as i have bought 800k in trauma forces

shadow wigeon
#

ALright well now I'm not impressed

near drift
#

Doesn't pick up plasteel, opinion discarded

shadow wigeon
#

If I'm going to top damage on Surge I sure hope I'll be top pickups o close.

kindred ivy
#

i did wroll a sweet thing

#

(revolver still does more tho)

kindred ivy
#

plasteel or not i am winning

plucky flax
#

Yeah tru but getting 300~400 plasteels is so sad.

shadow wigeon
#

400K damage and no pickups, what are you winning.

kindred ivy
#

the games

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i kill so my team can run the trash collecting service

plucky flax
#

I dunno I can do damage + getting top plasteels.

#

Maybe I'm better than you? (jk I'm trash)

kindred ivy
#

i am also incapable of finding it

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

compare the kills

#

and dmg number

#

eliets etc

plucky flax
#

Anyway no need to argue.

#

Just play whatever but please pick plasteels. T_T

near drift
#

Bruh really thinks those numbers justify not picking up plasteel ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€

kindred ivy
#

i will i SPEND FUKCING 800 ON TRAUMA FLIMBUSES

#

and 8K

#

to get a decent rol

shadow wigeon
#

Remember when getting less than 750 plasteel was ???? what did you do. Now it's regularly half that. I feel for the new guys going to the space casino.

wanton sandal
#

dont think i've ever gone below 10k plasteel for the longest while now, are people really struggling with plasteel?

snow coral
#

i wish there was a mechanic that let you eventually get out of nets/dogs if no teammates are helping

wanton sandal
#

then again im running damnation regularly so idk how pickups are for lower difficulties

wanton sandal
primal tusk
#

sedition: averaging 170 plasteel 0 diamantine cause diamantine wont spawn there Derp

wanton sandal
#

true though when you're the last one alive and get netted

#

shit sucks

primal tusk
#

and uprising averaging 200 plasteel'ish

#

and 10 to 30 dia

shadow wigeon
primal tusk
wanton sandal
#

wish there was a mats exchange so i can get rid of the diamantine

primal tusk
#

like, only occasionally by accident by double clicking when upgrading shit to blue level

#

current wallet

#

i had 200k monies but i decided "huh, lets just grab 1 of every item on my max levels" Derp

shadow wigeon
#

Truly ordos are the real barrier to getting max level gear.

wanton sandal
#

i wish i could get a max level weapon for 200k ๐Ÿ˜ญ

#

brunt doesnt like me

primal tusk
#

had a lucky pull from brunt on one of my characters, lemme check

shadow wigeon
wanton sandal
#

damn 370s

#

its hard to get a good 360 ot here

shadow wigeon
kindred ivy
#

Ibalways upgrate to max

#

We fuckinh ballin

primal tusk
quasi junco
#

lol imagine playing on auric and thinking reviving in fire is OK

#

I hope we lose this mission

primal tusk
shadow wigeon
# plucky flax I test too many weird stuff.

Yeah same, which is where all the ordos have gone. I've got max level of all the weapons and all the meme weapons I could really want now though, so there's nothing for that plasteel to get spent on.

shadow wigeon
#

As a psyker with no health curios, it's usually a death sentence for me.

normal matrix
#

psyker chat am i dripping or drowning

wanton sandal
red cave
#

Those diamantine reserves will probably get used for something eventually. I bet the devs will add a diamantine sink when they finally get around to adding red quality weapons

wanton sandal
#

i'd prolly replace the toughness gen on peril gain with somethingg a bit more useful

primal tusk
ionic needle
normal matrix
ionic needle
#

Also no perilous combustion, come on

plucky flax
#

I pick all the plasteels and still running out.

ionic needle
#

Three stray points and no KD or PC

normal matrix
shadow wigeon
shadow wigeon
normal matrix
#

illisi

#

no, deimos

#

yes, deimos

plucky flax
#

More than me. whatthefuck_heresy

#

Do you have all missions type 250?

#

It's so sad nooooo

shadow wigeon
shadow wigeon
plucky flax
#

Repair is my last one and I'm 100% the game.

shadow wigeon
#

In which case ditch the wall, get bubble and itโ€™s a Thunderdome.

wanton sandal
shadow wigeon
#

New meme build

quasi junco
#

which one is repair? cyro rods?

wanton sandal
#

yea

plucky flax
#

Matrix thingy

normal matrix
plucky flax
#

Uuuh with the cryo rods at the end yeah.

#

Power matrix

shadow wigeon
# normal matrix psyker chat am i dripping or drowning

Ditch Warp Expenditure, or take it instead of Soulstealer, but I would not use both. For VS, I would stick with Soulstealer.

Skipping Mettle and/or Perfect Timing is a missed opportunity, but if you're not going for a crit VS maybe it's not a big deal.

#

What blessings on VS? There are a lot of builds...

bleak tulip
#

most average vet player

wraith talon
bleak tulip
#

0

ionic needle
#

I love how crazy blaze trauma is on scab only

bleak tulip
#

how he fuck even

wraith talon
ionic needle
#

It just ruins everyones day

plucky flax
wanton sandal
#

me when i see people arguing that anything non-meta isnt worthwhile

lyric burrow
#

Nobody post joshos mats

bleak tulip
dense ivy
#

I think all Psyker blitzes should do a lot more but also instantly cap out your Peril and then go on cooldown for 10-30 seconds.

wraith talon
wraith talon
#

personally

primal tusk
dense ivy
#

Brain blast should just one pop anything thatโ€™s not a boss or daemonhost

#

10 sec cooldown

wraith talon
#

Hell donโ€™t even give it a cooldown

primal tusk
#

brainburst doesnt do enough compared to smite and assail imo

wraith talon
#

just increase its damage a bit

wanton sandal
dense ivy
#

Make assail a 20 second cooldown and have it just be ome wa mou shinderu nani a buncha dudes

wraith talon
#

Charges slower, tanks your peril, and doesnโ€™t deal enough damage

wraith talon
dense ivy
#

And smite should be a lightning blast thatโ€™s got less crowd clear than assail but stuns them for a while but is on a 30 second cooldown

primal tusk
#

i run EP brainburst to occasionally pop a long distance sniper or gunner, but thats only viable when i have an EP stack ready DeadFischl

dense ivy
#

I think spamming blitzes is boring

#

They should be big coc shots

primal tusk
#

spamming assail into a horde clears the entire horde Derp

dense ivy
#

Yea

#

Boring

primal tusk
#

assail is boring i agree

#

its too good

dense ivy
#

So is smite

wraith talon
#

You just yeet a shard at them

primal tusk
#

ik

#

BUT ASSAIL IS BORING AquaScreaming

wraith talon
#

fair enough

primal tusk
#

thats why i run kinetic flayer astroAYAYAHyper

dense ivy
#

I just wish they were more interesting and impactful in a way that doesnโ€™t tread so heavily on normal attacks

willow hazel
#

How is Assail boring but not BB?

primal tusk
#

just astroHyperShoot and a random bullet pops kinetic flayer

lyric burrow
dense ivy
#

Like what if you could upgrade brain blast to be telefrag

kindred ivy
#

I ran 800k ordo dokats of truam forces

#

To lesrn jts shit

lyric burrow
#

Nearly 100k plasteel or something

dense ivy
#

And just teleport into enemies you explode

quasi junco
#

did you try blaze build?

sick mulch
#

bb is cool you blow people up with your head

primal tusk
sick mulch
dense ivy
#

I feel like smite would be more interesting if it was a single target channel and when it killed an enemy theyโ€™d explode and chain off from there, the stronger the enemy the more damage/chains it hits

wraith talon
ionic needle
#

On auric maelstrom, trauma is really stupid

wraith talon
#

90% of the time it triggers on trash mobs

primal tusk
wraith talon
primal tusk
#

although running an autogun with the flat 10% will be hilarious giggle

wraith talon
#

Because 90% of the time Iโ€™m 1-2 hitting trash mobs

#

so I donโ€™t need BB on them

hot zephyr
# willow hazel How is Assail boring but not BB?

Like, just overall? Overall it's good but not god-tier or anything. It gets pretty crazy with the +% warp damage talents like Perfect Timing and Malific Momentum and EP for free secondary/RMB attacks, but it obviously not great against bulky enemies like ogryns or anything wearing carapace.

sick mulch
#

psyker needs some changes imo bb sucks assail gets boring after a while and smite is arguably way more boring

primal tusk
#

imagine if Kinetic flayer had 0 cooldown and just the flat 10% chance to cause brain rupture

#

time to run recon lasgun to spam procs KEKW_ogryn

#

or purgatus for AOE

hot zephyr
primal tusk
#

insane.....BUT FUN astroHyperShoot

#

would be viable to just give zealot a stubber

willow hazel
dense ivy
#

And it was great

hot zephyr
dense ivy
#

They should 100% remove the cooldown. Reduce the proc chance to like 5% if they must.

#

It gave you way more flexibility

primal tusk
#

just yeet into an enemy horde and hack and slash away

sick mulch
#

i still dont get why disrupt destiny and scriers is a things those are the REAL stinkers

willow hazel
#

both are great

wanton sandal
#

that way it can be used strategically

dense ivy
#

Itโ€™s no more boring than a krak grenade the way itโ€™s used

wanton sandal
#

instead of hoping "oh man i hope it procs"

primal tusk
#

or cooldown but no chance

#

like, guaranteed when its off cooldown

willow hazel
#

Or just specials/bosses only

wanton sandal
#

because 1 hitting a crusher with 2 bbs at the same time is great

primal tusk
#

thats why i'd say either remove the cooldown or remove the chance to trigger it

#

opens up an additional playstyle

wanton sandal
#

to bad obesefish will never allow this

#

๐Ÿ˜ญ

primal tusk
#

but yeah, removing the cooldown opens up a more high risk reward playstyle of gun sword play, where you go for all the quick hits to trigger as many brainruptures as possible

#

and removing the chance to trigger it opens up a single HIGH damage hit for tanky specials or bosses

hot zephyr
primal tusk
#

currently its just niche af Derp but i use it cause it funny to hear occasional pop

hot zephyr
#

Just can't switch off to kill trash or anything

#

Gotta damage the boss until you trigger the proc, THEN switch off for trash, then get back on the boss

primal tusk
#

kind of a hindrance to your team in pubs ngl

hot zephyr
#

Yeah, that's the problem. In comms with a premade you can account for that

#

But with randoms it's the wrong target priority

bleak hazel
#

just rolled this one

primal tusk
#

with assail you can just wail away on the boss, and then grab your shards, yeet them into horde, and continue wailing on boss

bleak hazel
#

not bad

primal tusk
hot zephyr
bleak hazel
primal tusk
wraith talon
#

God roll

bleak hazel
#

yea, very lucky

honest wadi
#

God i feel like im made out of tissue paper

quasi junco
#

damn just got beat by a knife stealth veteran

#

time to uninstall in shame

kindred ivy
#

Run ep smite shriek revoler

marsh prism
#

would crucian roulette or surgical be better for the fan fire revolver?

kindred ivy
#

Surgical

#

Surgical hand cannom

#

Ohhh

#

Fan tevolver?

marsh prism
#

the gripna ye

kindred ivy
#

Cruccian

#

I keep forgetting theres 2 revol er types

marsh prism
#

hadron gave me handcannon for free on it lol

kindred ivy
#

Hahha nice!!

umbral helm
#

I run crucian myself, in addition to the one where you get crit chance on melee kill, but I run a peculiar setup so if you want efficiency you'd probably want to stick with the handcannon instead

marsh prism
#

could also keep point blank on it yeah

stone palm
#

worth upgrading even though dmg is 75%?

marsh prism
#

came with point blank after I grabbed it off melk

kindred ivy
umbral helm
#

I mostly use it because the revolver isn't my main weapon, I mostly melee with an illisi with scriers up, and have the revolver as a backup. I've ran it in aurics and maelstroms, both pubs and pre-made. it's seen decent success despite probably lacking in some areas

marsh prism
#

tbh I don't really like the Illisi, i prefer the deimos

honest wadi
#

Psyker the outfit matches perfectly with the German voicer

marsh prism
#

yeah I guess I'll keep point blank on it for now and just shove flak damage on it

umbral helm
#

yeah, a single target melee would probably work better, I just like how it plays

marsh prism
#

shouldn't need carapace with handcannon

kindred ivy
#

Hand cannon js bug gud

#

Usw to 2 shot crushers

#

Now i lack a bjt of dama with 67% pen

#

Altho if i run carapace instead of elite dmg, ill prolly get the 2 shot

#

But i am not sure if illl.miss the crit headshot breakpoint on the dreg gunner

marsh prism
#

I got a similar grip revolver on my vet lol

umbral helm
#

I'm silly and just dance in their face with the illisi, uncanny strike still does its thing, even if it'd be much easier to just poke them with a DS4

kindred ivy
#

Cheim sord thrm

calm lotus
#

yeah gunker is pretty cool

#

nearly got top damage despite still not having a proper melee or curios

#

and i only blew up twice wahoo

visual osprey
marsh prism
#

also yeah doing a bit of fucking around and with high scryers stacks it feels nice

#

been running a mk 10 laspistol as of recent

kindred ivy
#

How bout epite

#

Ep smite is the best

#

Objet8velly

#

The best optiom

honest wadi
#

What does Asail Psyker run on curios?

cosmic sigil
#

assail has nothing to do with curios

#

curios are a preference, you either go hp, tg or a mix of both

#

and probablyu take stam for kinetic deflection

marsh prism
#

like for gunker

umbral helm
#

they fixed smite modifiers applying to surge a while back, iirc. but unfortunately they're not terribly worth running regardless, the +1 jump isn't that noticeable and the 10% damage is only applied while you're actively smiting, and only with the lmb

inland crescent
#

i finally got warp flurry lvl 4

inland crescent
inland crescent
#

?

bleak tulip
#

dump run and gun

umbral helm
# marsh prism oh really? shame that

if nothing else it means the two points you would've spent can freely go somewhere else, but I do wish they'd touch up those modifiers to make it a harder choice

wraith talon
inland crescent
wraith talon
bleak tulip
#

nexus, blazing, rending

#

ideally you only have two of those three blessings

inland crescent
bleak tulip
#

no

wraith talon
#

no

bleak tulip
#

its the generally accepted three best ones

inland crescent
#

nah i mean what the best of the three?

#

for u

bleak tulip
#

nexus blazing

inland crescent
bleak tulip
inland crescent
#

thank you very much sir

bleak tulip
#

that guide is in the pins and generally good

#

there is some parts most active people here seem to disagree with (like the "meta" section) but the trauma portion specifically seems pretty much like consensus

wanton sandal
#

interesting

calm lotus
#

it is funny doing this with only one item at yellow

inland crescent
# bleak tulip

so if i understand correctly you should pair flurry with schockwave

bleak tulip
#

thats probably the best you can make of this one yeah

inland crescent
#

aight thanks a ton

bleak tulip
#

also I would change specialists to flak damage, perk wise

calm lotus
#

so what are typical psyker curios

#

ah its in the anathenum nvm

inland crescent
bleak tulip
#

you dont need stam

calm lotus
#

fair enough

#

for gunker specifically?

bleak tulip
#

health and toughness gneerally

#

there isnt really much build specific stuff

#

take a wound if you need it

#

one of each is probably the best all rounder

#

hp, tg, wound
when youre comfortable with running psyker on damnation you can drop the wound for either more health or toughness, up to your taste

calm lotus
#

alright

#

subslots wise?

bleak tulip
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I always take health and toughness there too, but damage resist, cooldown reduction and ally revive speed are other ones I run

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toughness regen speed is also kinda bad because toughness regen gets paused when enemies are too close, which happens all the time on higher difficulties

calm lotus
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quick check is gunner res still wanted?

bleak tulip
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you can if you find yourself getting shot by gunners a lot yeah sure

calm lotus
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i'll probably pick at least a little up

bleak tulip
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generally this part of the guide I agree with, I wouldnt take sniper resist personally

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and stam regen is kind of pointless because psyker has the fastest stam regen delay

calm lotus
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alright ty

bleak tulip
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0.5s delay

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generally curio perks are kind of personal preference

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I see it the way that running 3*5% toughness and health is almost another free curio for each

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you can dodge gunners and snipers pretty reliably, stamina isnt that big of a deal with the stam regen delay and with kinetic deflection mostly eliminating stamina as a limiting factor for picking people up and blocking

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you only need 1% stamina to block push for example

ripe yacht
bleak tulip
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no preference, dont really actively run any of them

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on some characters I have one gunner resist because my 21% health rolled it

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on psyker I run CDR right now I think

ionic needle
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I love gunner res, it's so helpful whenever you accidentally get caught out

bleak tulip
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yeah a lot of people like it

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probably cant go wrong with it

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if I had to pick one thats the one I'd pick

ionic needle
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I usually go with 2x gunner, 1x sniper, because I just fuck up every once in a while

ionic needle
bleak tulip
kindred ivy
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Tf is dogsgit and so is vs

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Useless 15 year vharging screatches on enemies

stone palm
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What does this enhanced blitz change for Psykers?

bleak tulip
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lower peril cost, more assail shards iirc

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not as good as getting a second ogrynheimer

umbral helm
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wonder how much lower the peril gen is, and how it interacts with our other sources of it

bleak tulip
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its only peril cost from blitzes I think

kindred ivy
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Its shite all staves are dogshit

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Smite

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Ep smite

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E smite will finish off any elte u dont omeshot wuth a revolver

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WITHOUT shrek

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So ueha

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Also

umbral helm
kindred ivy
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๐Ÿญ ๐Ÿซณ โšก

calm lotus
kindred ivy
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Infinite ogryheimers from a vw5 box

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Vet box

warped meadow
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Elminster is Emperor's biggest stud muffin

kindred ivy
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I cannot believe i for a second believed tf was even decent

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Its fuckjng dogshit

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Is aight but in the 1.3 seconds of chargetime the elite is dead and so is the horde

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Vs and tf cant clear horde for shit

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Only the epicenter of the ecplosion does anythjng

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Maybe blaze staf

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3 stacls of burn is just loke what 50 dps? Thats half ofwhat smite EP does

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On a low ammount of tarvets

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Vs the entire horde

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How can anyone unironicsll think that shit clears anything

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Goddamit

golden mica
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jeez starting psyker for the first time and their starting abilities are absolutely useless

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glad they get much better lol

kindred ivy
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Shriek is pretty glld as a cc tool

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Tun agrip mk8 or some braced at the start

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Thise are verall good wepaon

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Wait the 3 stacks of burn is only fuckinf 14 dmg per tic

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Thats at most 20 dps

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Its even worse!

bleak tulip
kindred ivy
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God bless thevemeror is easy to transform trauma force and void strikes into mean words to offend pll in my game

azure bridge
# plucky flax 1600

for your blaze trauma set up, do you take kinetic deflection? I know it's a good defensive ability but if I were to take it I'd have to give up 6 warp charges and I was wondering if that trade was a good one

bleak tulip
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its generally very good

azure bridge
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yeah, thats why i'm torn over it

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I want 6 warp charges bad lol i like the extra damage

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but at the same time

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survivability

bleak tulip
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imo 6 charges isnt as good but thats very debatable

plucky flax
radiant sleet
plucky flax
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Between the 2 I'd pick kd over it. My build has both though so I'm good.

bleak tulip
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theyre a troll

azure bridge
bleak tulip
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yeah KD is fantastic for pubs too because it lets you clutch revive

radiant sleet
plucky flax
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No clearly we should only use ep smite and delete all staves.

kindred ivy
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Its shite

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I cannot stress enough

radiant sleet
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TRUE voidstrike is officially unviable, guess I cant do Auric anymore ๐Ÿ˜ฆ

kindred ivy
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How underhwleming the performance is

bleak tulip
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time to start playing ogryn

kindred ivy
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Revolver is just busted

plucky flax