psyker-class

[untold widget]

don't need wildfire on any build

[vast yew]

Uncanny is ultra-top-tier, Shred is best 2nd blessing but it honeslty isn't that important

[hasty spear]

thanks

[kindred ivy]

yeah, i entered right off HS into uni

[vast yew]

oh okay uhhh then IMO you ditch Wildfire and the BB upgrade

[kindred ivy]

but then corono started,

[hasty spear]

would penetration even matter much with uncanny on?

[olive ember]

yeah thats what I thought but

myehhh

I kinda like fast BB lol

[kindred ivy]

so we stayed like 6 months without class, and 6months learning dogshit from a non funcitoning online classes syetm

[vast yew]

it does and doesn't, but it helps when Uncanny isn't on

[kindred ivy]

then i entered another uni, and it was also online

[vast yew]

I know, it hurts, but 15% Warp Damage 👀

plus you get more used to left-clicking

which is a good habit for other builds

[kindred ivy]

then i tried a properlly made online uni, but i had ot work

[marsh prism]

does perks matter for the deimos force sword or do I just wanna get uncanny on it?

[olive ember]

asolhasildasldih

mmmm

[kindred ivy]

so now i am back in uni, this time seems going fine

[vast yew]

if you have a good enough roll 25% maniacs lets you one-shot mutants with a heavy2 headshot

[lethal lagoon]

You have any AI cheating issues yet?

[kindred ivy]

also, what u mean by that

oh my am really living in your head

now ur caling me names!

holy

[vast yew]

bro I had a nephew born this year and I'm intrigued to see how AI shapes his education

[untold widget]

it was a joke

[vast yew]

it's gonna be a whole new world

[marsh prism]

i got a 79 damage and first target so I should be fine

[kindred ivy]

no it wasnt

[untold widget]

yeah

[kindred ivy]

not from you

[untold widget]

it was

[lethal lagoon]

Eh..... it felt mean.

[kindred ivy]

eveyron ehre can tell u dont like me

[untold widget]

some jokes are mean

have you ever heard of roasting?

[lethal lagoon]

I think that's just an insult then.

[vast yew]

you have to follow your joke with //s otherwise CS students can't read it

[lethal lagoon]

You can only "roast" people you like

[kindred ivy]

so it was a joke, saying something mean and then addin "i was just kidding" doesnt make it a joke

[untold widget]

oh my b

[lethal lagoon]

Otherwise it's just insulting.

[vast yew]

also was a bit mean lol

[untold widget]

ill fix it, sec

[quasi junco]

Cmon siblings let’s all get along

[kindred ivy]

its like me saying i want X perosn dead, and then when they compain u go: "i was just kidding, cant u take a joke? come on what a pussy"

[untold widget]

yes

[vast yew]

If you want to know 100% you can press V to inspect, then E to see damage breakdowns
You want 1067 on Maniac Headshot for Heavy2

[untold widget]

saying you were held back in school is the same as wishing you were dead

[kindred ivy]

its a insult

[untold widget]

those are equivalent

[vast yew]

no need for hyperbole, he apologized already

[kindred ivy]

its like me saying person X is stupid , and then when they compain u go: "i was just kidding, cant u take a joke? come on what a pussy"

[lethal lagoon]

Now we went in the other direction.

[quasi junco]

Hey let’s make fun of gunkers plz

[plucky flax]

Psyker chat turned savage today. I am scared.

Pls no flame.

[echo island]

Hows this looking
Idea is to build DD with Assail and Vraks, then pop heads with Scrier and Vraks, Demos can hit thos headshots in melee as well
I pick Deimos>DS cuz of deflector, reduce damage if overwhelmed in gunfights

[vast yew]

#Wildfire User Detected

[vast yew]

Seems fine, though I have no idea wtf to run on a Vraks

[kindred ivy]

he didnt, he just doesnt want me to screenshot and report him to one of hte mods

[untold widget]

oh no

im so scared

[vast yew]

calm down

[untold widget]

to be fair

[kindred ivy]

no

[untold widget]

that was to the //s comment

[kindred ivy]

dont care

[untold widget]

I'm just too lazy to reply

[quasi junco]

Infighting is for heretics

[vast yew]

and Matt Ward

[quasi junco]

lol

[kindred ivy]

i have no problems against mentally i'll people, dont worry

[plucky flax]

[kindred ivy]

also how do u value if u are top 1% psycher or top 1% bingus?

me no get

cause else imma just star tsaying i am objectivelly the best psycher in the playedbase and none can say shit

[lethal lagoon]

Well now we have two bans incoming 🙂

[brisk lance]

Could someone recommend a BB Warp Charges build to me? I am going to go after the Power Up penance now, and I need one.

[untold widget]

and see, I already know he's brazilian so I'm not even touching the spelling and grammar mistakes. I feel like that's worth something.

[vast yew]

which one is Power Up?

[kindred ivy]

english itts the third lenguage i learned

[primal tusk]

did a game with fanning revolver and kinetic flayer, it was quite funny three brain bursts to kill a plague ogryn

[untold widget]

which is why I'm not mentioning it

[kindred ivy]

and in fact i commit gramatical erros cause i refuse to correct myself when typing in this lenguage

[plucky flax]

Random guy in my game said I was top 1%. That's how you join the club.

[kindred ivy]

oh i see

[olive ember]

oh yeah thats just a grind

[kindred ivy]

@red cave am i top 1% psycher?

[vast yew]

oh just run a build that runs BB and you'll get that over time

Blaze Trauma or Purgatus

[olive ember]

does power up work with Brain rupture?

its inconsistent with penances

[kindred ivy]

he is totally not my duo every day when i play DT

[vast yew]

should

[brisk lance]

I also feel like I don't understand Void Strike at all. Am I supposed to be doing charged shots or just lmb? I am coming in first (but not by much) in my Heresy games while I learn this class, but it's because I am really good at melee and have a very nice Illisi, lmao.

[vast yew]

but it's Fatshark sooo

[olive ember]

charged shots

[vast yew]

RMB deals big damage

[olive ember]

no staff should be lmb'ing as main damage

[untold widget]

charged mostly, lmb for suppressing gunners

[olive ember]

lmb spam builds are a funny meme but you shouldn't be using that if you are playing seriously

[vast yew]

Voidstrike endgame is getting Surge Blessing (2 shots on crit) and then True Aim Talent (5 headshots = crit)

then chain shots into horde at head level

EVERYTHING dies

[untold widget]

you should be aiming for weak spots, it's pretty important for Void to be all it can be

[olive ember]

lmb is more utility, like if you have a sniper halfway across the map and you can't reach it with trauma/surge

[snow coral]

I like reduce peril on crits with void because you can just charge spam into hords and never have to quell

[untold widget]

problem there is that you sacrifice damage from warp rider

better to learn to quell between shots

[vast yew]

MOTHERF-

[untold widget]

to keep from exploding

[thick valley]

I seriously spam all the time in auric

[vast yew]

I finally find an 80 stat curio

I hate this game

[kindred ivy]

[untold widget]

/pat

[brisk lance]

These are the two Voidstrikes I have.

[plucky flax]

I think I have some with even higher than 80.

82 or so.

[vast yew]

oh that second one is great

[primal tusk]

got 10k dregs killed

[feral verge]

It can actually be legit effective

[vast yew]

lmb spam is good for shooters/gunners at range

[feral verge]

I nonironically run it sometimes

[olive ember]

I mean its not bad its just

[vast yew]

if they aren't bunched up

[olive ember]

bro

idk how to feel about you anymore

what staff with what blessings

[feral verge]

I use a surge nexus trauma for it

[olive ember]

I need to make one now

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-you-what-what-did-you-do-spongebob-meme-spongebob-squarepants-gif-19389913

[brisk lance]

So you're saying just do charged shots at head level?

[vast yew]

Get this man to jail

[olive ember]

why not surge staff for the crit modifier

[vast yew]

straight to prison

[olive ember]

or does the crit not matter

[lethal lagoon]

For the surge blessing for the LMB meme

[feral verge]

Surge trauma has higher dps

I tested

[vast yew]

yeah basically; you don't need to full-charge them all the time though

[plucky flax]

For you I heard you like overkill damage.

[vast yew]

try and stay above 70% peril for Nexus

[olive ember]

g2k

[brisk lance]

About how much should I be going? Like 30%, 40, 50?

[olive ember]

i just need to sawp one of my trauma staffs then

[feral verge]

I get more elite/special kills with it than vets lol

[kindred ivy]

i barelly have any overkil dmg, and i legit thing its cause of revorver

[feral verge]

It's infinite ammo

[vast yew]

I couldn't tell you. Play around in the Psykanium a bit

get a feel

[brisk lance]

Alright then

[feral verge]

Lmb spam staff sounds goofy, and I thought it was too, until I tried it. It's perfectly viable and powerful

It is seriously slept on

[vast yew]

also if you want to FEEL the power:
Step 1: get to 5 True Aim stacks
Step 2: get to ~75% Peril
Step 3: Full charge at a Crusher's head

[feral verge]

You get to be a gunker, without making salty vets mad

[untold widget]

really good against gunners to get them to stop shooting

[red cave]

Yes

[kindred ivy]

a good

sorry people

i am now top 1% psycher

[violet oak]

thats cool, the real cool people are psykers

[kindred ivy]

rules as written but hte other top 1% psycher

[vast yew]

Maus hopped on his Alt

[untold widget]

Step 2.9: Be on the assassination mission right before the last elevator and have 9 ragers, and a pack of shotgunners behind them. Full charge at head level

[vast yew]

took him a second to remember the password

[kindred ivy]

its not my alt, its my duo

[feral verge]

@spice veldt is the actual top 1% psyker but don't tell him I said that

[red cave]

WHEEZE

[lethal lagoon]

Oh yeah, no way of the mice creator unless you have earlier proof #psyker-class message

[kindred ivy]

i play with him most of the time

i have games i played before

[violet oak]

Dont know what psycher is, but i hope you recover soon

[vast yew]

psycher? I don't even know her

[untold widget]

oh shit, Atlas

that was savage

[kindred ivy]

can i see when i created a build on that 1 site?

[lethal lagoon]

Uhh, I dunno link it, I'll look too

[untold widget]

it doesnt say

[lethal lagoon]

You can use a cache checker

Probably

[untold widget]

look i'm not a CS student, gimme the laymans terms

[violet oak]

laymans terms: lol no

[untold widget]

(in comedy, this is referred to as a callback)

[kindred ivy]

i know i been playing this biuld for likelyl a month before i joined here

also my build needs a revolver

way of the mice is real

[lethal lagoon]

My comment is from over a month ago

[violet oak]

I bet you think inappropriate thoughts of skaven

[vast yew]

Way of the Mice is dead
Way of the Undead rises

[kindred ivy]

🤔 when did the infinite shield ubble got patched?

that's the day i made this shit

[plucky flax]

Imagine claiming darktide build.

[kindred ivy]

since i had ot adapt for longer smites

[vast yew]

I invented Blaze Trauma

don't @ me

[kindred ivy]

i know thats more less when i started doing it

also

[violet oak]

I invented peril edging

[kindred ivy]

i run EP smite

[feral verge]

I'm going to make and claim a keystone-less build

[lethal lagoon]

I said EP smite in my comment?

[kindred ivy]

u did?

[brisk lance]

Is the quell cancel for Void no longer a thing? I saw mention of it in that giant guide so I went and watched a video on it (that's pretty old), but I can't find a way to make it work.

[untold widget]

he did

[lethal lagoon]

Yes

[violet oak]

I have a character slot dedicated to that gimmick already, NEXT

[kindred ivy]

epic

[untold widget]

and said he'd roll a revolver

[lethal lagoon]

I literally said ep smite with a revolver

[kindred ivy]

when did infinite shield bubble get patched?

[plucky flax]

You probably did. I did play blaze trauma pre 13 though when people thought it was shit (it wasn't)

[kindred ivy]

i dont know when

[plucky flax]

Then patch 13 buffed it so much

[kindred ivy]

but thats more elss the date

i changed to the boold

[vast yew]

(I used your 1,375k video as the inspiration to get my own Blaze Trauma)

[lethal lagoon]

I played blaze trauma pre patch 13, but I did think it was shit 😦

[untold widget]

Maus is like that kid who discovered jacking it and was like "I need everyone to know about this crazy new thing I invented"

[feral verge]

Most damage I've ever done was 1.3 million

With purga

And ab

[vast yew]

I'm scared if they ever nerf the Revolver
My Zealot will be utterly shooketh

[plucky flax]

Pre 13 blaze trauma build couldn't get access to 6 warp charges. And generated way more peril so a lot of quelling. The warp charge keystone just elevated it so much.

[vast yew]

yeah Patch 13 opened up a bunch of doors

Psykers no longer needed to spam BB to get Warp Charges

[kindred ivy]

patch 14

october is when no more infinite bubbles

[plucky flax]

I played psychic communion back then to generate warp charges.

[vast yew]

also if no one has tried building a Vet post-13 the default ability they give you is trash

[lethal lagoon]

I ran revolver with a bunch of builds since 13 dropped 🤷‍♂️

But I have the earliest proof 🙂

[vast yew]

doesn't highlight, only lasts 5 seconds

[plucky flax]

Play columbus. It's as strong as revolver.

[vestal fulcrum]

It doesn't even highlight?

[vast yew]

cant whip it out and 1-tap the Sniper in 0.5 seconds while managing a horde tho

[vast yew]

It sure doesn't

It's so bad lmao

[vestal fulcrum]

Well

That's just awesome

[plucky flax]

True only laspistol has similar swap speed. Or plasma funnily enough but it's vet only.

[halcyon creek]

Hot take: just the highlighting itself (at least, for your whole team) should be a combat ability all its own

[lethal lagoon]

Shout is already so Op, don't really need to nerf that ability

[vast yew]

ice-cold take: half the upgrades for Executioner's stance should be baked in

[wet compass]

What lvl is blazing spirit can be?

What lvl is blazing spirit can be?

[lethal lagoon]

tier 3 on trauma

[vast yew]

3 only on staves, 3 or 4 on swords

it also caps out at 6 stacks on staves, while swords go to 10-12

It's only really worth running on one specific build, which is Blaze Trauma

[plucky flax]

Gief tier 4 blaze trauma

[ionic needle]

I wish ds 4 had blazing spirit

[vast yew]

Monkey Paw Curls Trauma gets Tier 4, but soulblaze stacks now scale with distance to Epicenter

[lethal lagoon]

If they do that I'll have to wait till they nerf it to finally get tier 4 blazing on Trauma 😦

[plucky flax]

What nerf it need buff!

Void is clearly way better

[lethal lagoon]

I never got to play Voidstrike with surge blessing back when it was OP

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

I mean it's still real dumb

[lethal lagoon]

It is, but it's not dummydumb

[plucky flax]

I played it for like 2 rounds. But patch 13 and 14 the most broken build was 2s recharge assail with handcannon.

That was literally left click assail only.

[vast yew]

Handcannon applying to everything was wild

[lethal lagoon]

Eh.... EP surge might have been more broken

[vast yew]

Crit-Zealots absolutely SHREADING crushers with heavy swords

[ionic needle]

EP surge was so much fun

[vast yew]

EP Surge also stupid

[plucky flax]

Ep surge really good single target but handcannon assail with how fast it recharged was bonkers.

[lethal lagoon]

EP surge was me queue dodging every other game cause I eventually got annoyed of bug users.

Also all the arguments that surge was balanced with the bug... just tell the world how bad at the game you are 😆

[kindred ivy]

who needs EP sureg

when u have

E

P

SMITE

[ionic needle]

Kind of felt like Sienna back in the day when beam staff was broken

[opaque tendon]

any knife psykers have reccs for perks/blessings

[kindred ivy]

sorry hadron

[vast yew]

bonked by the Mechanicus

[kindred ivy]

🫳 ⚡

this

is all u need

[queen fog]

Her plasteel munching was disrupted

[umbral helm]

honestly I doubt half or even most of the people using EP surge even knew about the interaction and just thought surge staff was simply that good

[kindred ivy]

jokes on you diamatine tastes better

[vast yew]

my buddy didn't notice

but then again they all play Malice

sooooo

[lethal lagoon]

When you do more than double damage and literally don't notice. Just Malice Thingsᵗᵐ

[kindred ivy]

ZAP

[lethal lagoon]

I guess it would actually be hard to notice on malice

[kindred ivy]

is malice 3 or 4?

[lethal lagoon]

3

[kindred ivy]

ih

oh*

[vast yew]

why did you post a correction instead of just editing the post

[kindred ivy]

cause its faster?

[lethal lagoon]

Also why is Heresy 4 and damnation 5? Is that a 40k lore thing?

[kindred ivy]

Heresy -> 4 letters

damnation -> 5 letter

duh

[olive ember]

no clue

[vast yew]

guys I think Maus is an Ogryn

[olive ember]

why is sedition 1 and uprising 2

[kindred ivy]

[olive ember]

and then malice is 3

[kindred ivy]

sedition is 1 letter

malice is 3 silabees

up rising is 2 words

[olive ember]

malice is 2 syllabiles

i thought

[vast yew]

it's just various ways of saying evil/traitor

fits with 40k's aesthetics, though not anything specific

AFAIK

[umbral helm]

something pretty much every number-crunchy meta nerd has to come to realize eventually; 3/4 of the playerbase is usually not like that. at best they just google whatever the "best" build is and watch a YT video, but don't pay attention to the how or why, they just see what they need and throw it together. you see it a lot with any game that has "builds"

[lethal lagoon]

No, you got to say it like you are in an anime speaking "perfect" english. Then it's 3 syllables.

[vast yew]

he just liked being Palpatine

[lethal lagoon]

The top build on gameslateran is a voidstrike without true aim

I pity the googlers.

[olive ember]

google says its 2 syllables

[vast yew]

do not speak of the forbidden builds

[olive ember]

lmao

[vast yew]

gameslantern is a dark place
we do not go there Simba

[olive ember]

games lantern build

dear god

[vast yew]

I found 2 Zealot builds in the top 6 that were straight up cheating

like they'd removed a node connecting 2 other nodes

and just spent it somewhere else

build literally impossible to make ingame

like this:

[olive ember]

this one?

also fucking anime ad lmao

[feral verge]

hi @willow hazel

[vast yew]

this is a very legal talent distribution, we swear

[willow hazel]

Hello

[olive ember]

is it me

or is auric damnation harder than normal twins

am I losing it

[vast yew]

depends on the Auric IMO

[umbral helm]

and y'know, valid. it's why I play surge, throwing out lightning is fun, I don't care about breakpoints

[willow hazel]

normal twins isn't that hard with the ability to rez

[olive ember]

sorry

I meant hard twins

did I say normal

[vast yew]

oh you're nuts then

[olive ember]

wow I did

[lethal lagoon]

Those ads are targeted 🙂

[olive ember]

my brain is no worky

[olive ember]

eh I don't evne know why

maybe ffxiv?

[vast yew]

I play Quickplay Aurics all the time but Hard Mode with randoms is hard AF

[olive ember]

I am a weeb, just not

that

[olive ember]

I managed to clear two just now, dunno if my luck is good today or something

[lethal lagoon]

I took japanese in college, and basically everyone was a weeb. But there was one kid who was... that

[olive ember]

got two randos back to back where we managed to clear after a few tries

[vast yew]

I think people are getting better

[lethal lagoon]

If he didn't have a bodypillow I'll eat my computer.

[vast yew]

that is simply a Korean MMO

[olive ember]

I mean its not like google will care

[lethal lagoon]

Korean multiplayer games pioneered pay-to-win

[vast yew]

I said Korean MMO already

[olive ember]

I've played some korean game thing

[lethal lagoon]

[olive ember]

not lost ark

another one

well I did play lost ark for a bit

[umbral helm]

yeah, the red haired one is a boy

[olive ember]

... and how do you know this

pray tell

[vast yew]

Anyways if you want true weeb cringe you have to go much deeper than a simple cheerleader ad for a game

[umbral helm]

because I know Korean MMOs and their stereotypes

[vast yew]

that's tamer than a beach episode

[olive ember]

oh god the anime girl got changed to a warthunder ad

go back

please go back

[vast yew]

But Derpy

[lethal lagoon]

This is number 2

Has true aim.

[vast yew]

If WarThunder goes away who will we leak classified documents to

[lethal lagoon]

But also has....

[vast yew]

Oh that looks pretty good, Warp Expenditure is a little weird but not too- WHY

[umbral helm]

I just always see the sad Ogryns that say "this one is sad, because this website runs on ads :("

[lethal lagoon]

Just why.

[olive ember]

don't you know? They'll just swap to Minecraft

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/warthunder-whenthe-tf2memes-tf2-warthunder-memes-gif-25863483

[umbral helm]

I mean some guy at some point did get busted supposedly for creating a 1:1 recreation of a military base in Minecraft

[olive ember]

latest leak was literally like 3 days ago

[vast yew]

it just keeps happening

it was kinda funny the first few times but we're at like

what, 20 times now?

I know it's over a dozen

[olive ember]

the most recent one was some US report on the war in ukraine

[vast yew]

that one was wild

[olive ember]

https://kotaku.com/minecraft-discord-ukraine-invasion-military-documents-1850319726

[umbral helm]

if they were smart they'd use this as an opportunity to learn where vulnerabilities in their systems are, but they won't

[vast yew]

dude shared it with his friends (dumbass) who then posted it to a minecraft server (DOUBLE dumbass)

[olive ember]

I don't think it was anything super important iirc

[vast yew]

the ukraine report?

had casualty figures and such

was actually kinda bad

[lethal lagoon]

I keep looking at the top psyker builds on gameslatern and it does not get better.

[vast yew]

why do you hate your braincells

[olive ember]

lol yeah people figured it out a while back

[lethal lagoon]

This feels like a geniune issue in terms of maintaing the playerbase.

[olive ember]

but thanks for reaffirming that the class rework did not change anything

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I knew they were mid, but that bad.

[umbral helm]

I think if anything this is just kind of proving my earlier point

[olive ember]

pre rework the builds were legit troll builds being posted

[vast yew]

Let's play a game

guess which staff this build uses:

[olive ember]

like "take quicken instead of AB or KB" or use mind in motion

[vast yew]

Answer:

[olive ember]

etc. etc.

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like literally all the builds use voidstrike.

[olive ember]

purge stafff kekw

[lethal lagoon]

No fucking way.

Actually, should have expected it.

[olive ember]

surge

wow

just

kinetic flayer surge

lmao

[shell maple]

Why whats wrong

[olive ember]

thats outdated as shit

[vast yew]

Also TRUE AIM SURGE

[lethal lagoon]

[olive ember]

BB with surge is redundant as fuck

true aim is kinda a meme on surge

[vast yew]

and WS with 0 upgrades

[lethal lagoon]

True Aim Surge was fine during that short bug period. But I doubt they were taking advantage of that.

[olive ember]

warp charges don't go up to 6 so you aren't getting the damage boost or the replenishment tools

[shell maple]

Them builds has hundreds of upvotes tho

[primal plume]

Something I've wondered, Does 6 warp stacks Smite out damage EP Smite over a longer period of time?

[vast yew]

2 weeks old

[vast yew]

only if you spam Creeping Flames

[olive ember]

not really

[lethal lagoon]

Well if you wanted proof that scoreboard doesn't matter and that this is a casual game...

[vast yew]

6 warp siphon stacks = 24% damage increase, which is a lot less than the 125% increase of EP

[olive ember]

well you don't take warp charges for smite, you take it for the whole build

the extra damage and peril resist is just extra help

if you want solely want to increase the damage of smite go EP

[vast yew]

but that damage applies to everything, and the biggest advantage of Warp Siphon is the crazy cooldown reduction

along with a nice 36% peril reduction

[olive ember]

tho at that point its some rly niche builds like that one guy who uses revolver DS4 and goes EP smite for horde clear

[wanton sandal]

sad...

[vast yew]

Revolver + EP Smite is weird but it works, it's just a Revolver Gunker that chose EP Smite instead of EP Assail

[vast yew]

damn you hit the 1/6 for her to brick it

[shell maple]

Currently using this and it serves well

[olive ember]

yeah no its gone

[lethal lagoon]

Brother no...

[vast yew]

the biggest problem with that build is no True Aim

which is THE best talent for Surge-Voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

He might not have surge blessing?

[vast yew]

the build does

[lethal lagoon]

No, no I meant that guy

[olive ember]

uhhh

[vast yew]

That build isn't the worst though; just remove the smite upgrades, warp expenditure, and battle meditation and that gives 4 points to pick up True Aim

I'd also swap Soulstealer to Quietude and Essence Harvest to Inner Tranquility

oh and you probably want 5% crit chance on the Voidstrike, if you can

Melee weapon and Curios are up for lots of debate but nothing bad there

[lethal lagoon]

That's where I disagree. 5% crit chance when you already have nexus and true aim is meh

25% damage is way better

[vast yew]

you already one-shot crushers

[umbral helm]

I think this is sort of an example of what I meant, earlier. this isn't the best, but the guy using it says it works, that's all he cares about

[vast yew]

so any perks on Voidstrike are up for debate

5% Crit 25% Carapace is what I run

helps when I don't crit crushers

but nothing else really even touches breakpoints

it's a 1/20 chance to roughly triple your damage, or sorta-kinda a 15% damage boost

[olive ember]

tho tbh

at that point I'd go assail

uhh lemme see if I can do something with warp charge smite voidstrike

[vast yew]

what build is this?

[shell maple]

Assail? Never

[vast yew]

yeah who would use the best blitz

ugh

[shell maple]

Its good for Hounds modifier thats all

[vast yew]

it's good for a lot of things ever since they buffed the right click

[olive ember]

could try that instead

which is basically more CDR

[vast yew]

what build is that Derpy

is that for non-Surge Voidstrike?

[olive ember]

oh wait

no true aim

nvrm

[vast yew]

[olive ember]

honestly I just wouldn't use warp charges with voidstrike

does it need warp charges?

like at all?

[vast yew]

this is where my Voidstrike build landed:

[olive ember]

or are the warp charges for CDR

[olive ember]

missing perilous

which is a no go

[vast yew]

I mean it's 36% Peril reduction and 24% boost

[vast yew]

Perilous didn't do squat when I ran it

everything died too fast to surge procs

and there isn't really a point you can spare anywhere unless you give up WS

you barely use your Blitz and I'm not playing the DD minigame

[olive ember]

ehh

alright then

perilous is still just augmented damage

in my experience you blast 3 shotgunners and everything around them is dead

[vast yew]

similar to my experience

pretty much all of my builds feel like they'd really appreciate 1 extra point

and if I had that point, it'd go in PC

but I'm not giving up True Aim, WS, or Dome upgrades so it is what it is

[umbral helm]

it's just a different method of applying damage, ultimately. you could go back and forth over which one is more efficient in hypothetical scenarios forever

[olive ember]

Honestly?

I'd give up mettle and true aim

idk what that 15% extra damage hits in terms of breakponts

and go for perilous to increase the horde clear potential

[vast yew]

Perfect timeing is the 15% damage

Mettle is the toughness regen

[olive ember]

I mean 15% damage on a voidstrike won't mean too much

since it one shots most things

and the things it two shots I don't think the 15% will reach

unless someone wants to test it

[vast yew]

does and doesn't, lets you charge less for things

would have to test to see exactly what breakpoints it moves in terms of charge time

wouldn't be the worst sacrifice for PC

Would end up like this:

[olive ember]

I'd run that tbh

the damage aura is meh

CDR for more shields

[vast yew]

Nah soulstealer gives less toughness than mettle, all told

and mettle works in melee

[olive ember]

on a voidstrike?

hmm

[vast yew]

the blast radius crits count for mettle

they do like 0 damage but they still count

[untold widget]

souldstealer mettle is what I run

I don't do quietude

[vast yew]

you don't need both of those

1 crit with either gives you full toughness bar

Quietude helps when you aren't building Peril

[untold widget]

I also run vent

[olive ember]

Idk Quietude has just been very consistent

[untold widget]

so I'm always building peril

[vast yew]

Damage Aura helped for some breakpoint I tested at some point and I never questioned it since CDR is whatever on the Shield, especially with WS

[olive ember]

either way theres a bunch of ways to build that isn't uh

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a6454b8-4180-4dc7-93ee-e817b21f25cc/auric-maelstrom-bubble-smite-support

this

[untold widget]

but then again, I also work really hard on not taking damage to begin with

[olive ember]

this build is yikes lol

[vast yew]

Generally as long as you grab True Aim you're on the right path with Voidstrike

[olive ember]

I suppose with true aim crit is alot more reliable

[vast yew]

it's constant into hordes

if 1 ball hits 5 heads that's 5 stacks

and with surge proc'ing you just back-to-back-to-back shoot double shots

the only time crit chance comes into play is when you're trying to kill Crushers

[stark nova]

I’m the big build book under psycho killer, what does “dumdum, fire frenzy & +flak” mean next to the columnus ag?

[vast yew]

DumDum and Fire Frenzy are blessings

+Flak means 25% Flak as a perk

it's recommendations for the build

for Psyker-specific stuff, I recommend the Atheneum on steam (though it's not completely perfect, it's really good)

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[olive ember]

I mean tbh if I had a choice I'd rather run this

[vast yew]

toughness upgrade for EP
explain

[olive ember]

each assail shard you throw is 15 toughness

with EP active*

[vast yew]

each assail shard you throw is 22.5% toughness from soulstealer, 37.5% if it crits

[stark nova]

That’s literally what I’m looking at hence “the big build book”

[vast yew]

I don't hate the EP Assail pick but I wouldn't take the Toughness upgrade

[vast yew]

oh cool, cheers

[olive ember]

Pygex's build are

idk

[stark nova]

Didn’t know what earning a new blessing would entail and now I’ve lost an orange gun rip

[olive ember]

they differ from what I would build tho

[vast yew]

oof

[umbral helm]

the Atheneum is really just that one Pirates of the Caribbean quote. "the code is more like guidelines than what you'd call rules"

[vast yew]

I disagree with some of Pygex's stuff, namely around exactly how necessary a +3 Stamina Curio is

I'm a big proponent of "One hp, one toughness, one whatever you want"

[olive ember]

his fire trauma build doesn't take fire shriek and goes for shield which is

an odd choice

[vast yew]

that too

and I think it has Wildfire

[olive ember]

same thing with his DD build

[umbral helm]

it's because it's ultimately preference, at the end of the day

[vast yew]

yeah Psyker is pretty flexible

there's a lot of strong talents at the top and bottom of the tree

[umbral helm]

I've said it before that pretty much every class is like that, if you want it to be. the only exception really has been Vet for a while, but that's mainly been because of their bloated tree

[stark nova]

What does it mean by LMB RMB is that mouse buttons?

[olive ember]

yeah he goes for puppet master and quick shards on his gun psyker build

eh

[vast yew]

yes

[olive ember]

left mouse button and right mouse button

so literally left click and right click

[vast yew]

Puppet Master is fine

Quick Shards isn't the greatest of upgrades but it's not neccesary on gun psyker (or even most other builds, to be honest)

[olive ember]

I'd get rid of both of them and take double duration for DD instead

and weakspot kills give 2

[vast yew]

his DD build also doesn't have Gaze

[olive ember]

but at that point its preference again but yeah

[olive ember]

lol uh

[vast yew]

click the left and right sticks

(It's LT and RT)

[olive ember]

left click is shoot, right click is block

so wte you use on controller to do that

ah yeah LT and RT make sense

[vast yew]

IIRC LT is block/aim and RT is attack

[violet oak]

rollers can't comprehend such complicated concepts

[olive ember]

what

wait

is it LT to block RT to shoot?

[vast yew]

that's how it usually is on controllers

[umbral helm]

I think probably the only talent on psyker tree that's arguably not worth taking objectively is Anticipation, and that's just because it's bugged and doesn't do anything right now

[vast yew]

LT aims, RT shoots

[olive ember]

i haven't played shooters on console since MW3

the good one

[vast yew]

"Unlucky for some"

[stark nova]

You’d think that but it’s not. Left trigger does the charge up with assail and eight trigger does the “this bih empty. yeet”

[vast yew]

yeah so LT is aim and RT is attack

unless by "charge up" you mean "quell"

pull out a gun and test it

[umbral helm]

you could argue its subjective worth, but it at least does something, as opposed to Anticipation which does nothing

[vast yew]

whatever you use to aim is RMB and whatever you use to attack is LMB

[stark nova]

The book is talking about an ultimate. Are we playing Overwatch now? 🗿

[vast yew]

ult is shorthand for ability

Dota/League of Legends brainrot that crept into every game

[olive ember]

the shriek, shield, scriers gaze

[kindred ivy]

Smite

[olive ember]

we just call that an ult

[kindred ivy]

now THAT ultimatelly powerufll

[stark nova]

No like you know with assail when you like javelin throw them instead of kind of just deck of cards deal them?

[olive ember]

smite is typically what we call blitzes

yeah thats the RMB

[vast yew]

yeah that's "aiming"

[kindred ivy]

blitz, like the thermal expansion stuff

[vast yew]

aka RMB

[umbral helm]

I just say "my F" a lot in-game

[olive ember]

People say that too

[stark nova]

[vast yew]

there's also Purloin Providence. Average of 3% Peril quelled lmao

[olive ember]

it was alot simpler pre rework cuz it was just ult and BB

btw pre rework the ability was called "Psykinetic's Wrath" and no one said that

also warp unleashed used to be called psykinetics wrath

they changed the name from warp unleashed to warp rider and nerfed it smh

[vast yew]

was funny when it was a hidden 10% damage boost that was always active

[olive ember]

I mean it was supposed to be like that

they specifically buffed warp unleashed so the damage boost was always 10 - 25%

or wte it was

[stark nova]

M’kay so basically this build is yeet yeet yeet, javelin throw, shoot enemy, yeet yeet, force push, shoot enemy, dodge around a lot

Bet

[olive ember]

and then they forgot to get rid of it when they made it into warp rider

smh

basically

gun psyker

[cobalt atlas]

Didn’t they removed that recently

[stark nova]

Borderlands moment

[olive ember]

they got rid of the 10% yeah

[vast yew]

Assail is OP at early levels, just firing a few darts at some enemies, then move your crosshair over them and watch it zoom in
The "Javelin Throw" is for sniping specialists at range

[olive ember]

so now its 0% - 20% instead of 10% - 25%

[vast yew]

Yeah

[stark nova]

https://tenor.com/view/pulp-fiction-confused-travolta-where-lost-gif-5308454

[vast yew]

10% free damage for an easy-to-get talent was a little dumb

[stark nova]

It was a yes or no question

[vast yew]

It wasn't a question it was a statement

[olive ember]

Assail isn't as broken as it was before but its still good

[vast yew]

it's less broken but it still slaps everything diff 1-3

[umbral helm]

I mean, yeah. there are things that "don't do anything" but I'm being literal here, there's an effect being applied still, even if it isn't worth much. Anticipation is bugged and literally does nothing, right now

[olive ember]

well everything deletes difficulty 1-3

[kindred ivy]

assail users when the nanosecond the horde gets denser than thair lil shards can clear

[olive ember]

I could run a tacaxe and delete everything in difficulty 1-3

[kindred ivy]

its scutally insane

[vast yew]

yeah but Assail you don't even need to aim

just complete braindead mode

[olive ember]

who needs aim when you have bullet magnetism

[vast yew]

this post brought to you by the Revolver gang

[shell maple]

Panick

[vast yew]

(we fire tree trunks)

[kindred ivy]

even pre nerf (actually pre nerf was funnier)

cause too many heresy/malice level players were in damnation

[vast yew]

I do wonder sometimes why the Revolver gets such generous hurtboxes but the other ranged weapons don't

[kindred ivy]

cause they thought they could do it

[olive ember]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/18lnfl6/maybe_the_hitboxes_are_a_little_too_forgiving/

[kindred ivy]

but the plank-time they arent instakilling the entire horde

[olive ember]

but yeah revolver bullet magnetism is rly noticeable

[vast yew]

yeah the Revolver's bullets are like 2 feet wide

[kindred ivy]

they would instantly panik and die

[shell maple]

Explode

[vast yew]

on diff 5 Assail is still useful but you actually have to touch the rest of your kit

the right-click buff helped out a whole lot there

[kindred ivy]

yeha

i think assail is fine now

its just that its the type of stuff that will get abused on lower difsf

[stark nova]

Time to make a Zealot

[kindred ivy]

cause it has to say good for dam

[vast yew]

why Fatshark did not just implement difficulty scaling for the blitzes

I will never know

[kindred ivy]

which means it WILL destory leariler

[vast yew]

pretty sure bombs in VT2 scale off difficulty

[kindred ivy]

if blitzed did % max health dmg

it would all be eithyer dogshit

or op

[umbral helm]

it's something my friend who was trying psyker out didn't want to accept for a while. he started to use it and I told him not to get too comfortable, because it won't work on everything. I watched him try to take out a crusher pack with it, and then he learned what all there is to manage with psyker at high level and he just went back to eviscerator zealot

[vast yew]

lmao

[primal tusk]

i am pretty much only on sedition or uprising. can count on one hand the amount of times ive seen psykers above level 6 use anything but Assail.

[vast yew]

that's why I recommend Assail Psyker -> Surge Assail Psyker

gets you used to Peril management, then introduces a staff

[kindred ivy]

surge is neat

[vast yew]

then you branch out to the rest of the class

it's also super easy to build

5/6 chance of getting at least one blessing you want from Hadron

[kindred ivy]

once u get with surge u can try bubble shield or shriek

to help management

[olive ember]

zealot and ogryn are just "I eat shit and still don't die" mode

[kindred ivy]

i feel liks scriers is someting u dont mess with untill later

[olive ember]

ogryn rn is overtuned as fuck iirc

[kindred ivy]

except loner zealot

they are the eat shit and die mode

[olive ember]

well you never go loner zealot

[stark nova]

Yea but I need to have every class at level 30

[kindred ivy]

what about it?

[olive ember]

even if you want to be a stealth rusher you don't run loner

[stark nova]

Why are there 5 slots if there’s only 4 classes 🤨

[kindred ivy]

i think its a bit too strong gun lugger yeah

but the oter things feel fine

[olive ember]

they can stack a stupid load of toughness DR, have rly good toughness regen

so you can literally just stand there and trade hits and win

I'm not an ogryn expert tho

[umbral helm]

I have more than 5 because funny mods but I honestly don't use them, just got it for the extra loadout slots

[olive ember]

prob ask someone else

[kindred ivy]

and also melt bosses

[primal tusk]

heavy attack build ogryn is funny

[kindred ivy]

i run stubber

[olive ember]

the ogrynomicon builds aren't "meta" apparently for one thing

but fuck if I know what ogryn meta is

[vast yew]

Ogryn with Feel No Pain and the toughness generation talents from the top left combined with Batter and a Shield is almost invincible unless disabled by a specialist

[olive ember]

thats my least played class lol

[primal tusk]

just spam heavy attacks, get back toughness from heavies

[kindred ivy]

yeah feel no pain is great

[vast yew]

also kills everything with bleed stacks

[kindred ivy]

or flame stacks

[cobalt atlas]

Ogryn block with shield is just unparallel

[kindred ivy]

or gigranade

[umbral helm]

Ogyrn is simple to build, in the sense that it's hard to build "badly" even by meta standards

[olive ember]

with enough toughness DR you can eat a sniper shot

[vast yew]

oh boy can't wait for hadron to brick this:

[olive ember]

and keep going

[cobalt atlas]

“You can even bully DH”

[kindred ivy]

makes sence tbh

ogryns are stupid

llorewise

[primal tusk]

🪨

[kindred ivy]

they need weapons taht are good

[olive ember]

https://streamable.com/r40y45

from Josho

dear god his toaster mic

he was in an argument iirc with someone who took stamina instead of toughness curios for wte reason

[kindred ivy]

i dont get anything he is saying

[cobalt atlas]

Truly ogryn gameplay

[primal tusk]

to be fair, daemonhosts arent too bad if you got a teammate that can block and dodge properly around some object that the DH has to path around..... now if only my team was any good holding the daemonhost hostage for 50s and team just wandered off.

[olive ember]

"Oh my god i'm allowed to take the one sniper shot I'm allowed to take per gain" (someone was arguing that in ogryn chat or general chat or wte)

"gasp I did it again? How is this possible, are you telling me toughness can regenerate?!?!"

[primal tusk]

i was a zealot

[umbral helm]

DH is like any boss, there's a way to dance around them, just gotta learn the steps

[olive ember]

this does also mean btw that if you have enough toughness DR you can eat mauler and crusher overheads iirc

[vast yew]

or just use a Deimos/DS4/Dagger and backdodge out of range repeatedly

haha dodge distance goes brrr

[marsh prism]

does putting maniac on the mk X laspistol hit any breakpoints?

[olive ember]

Ogryns basically became the new vet

they have stupid toughness DR, stupid damage, gun lugger ult is a free gun reload

[umbral helm]

it's still a dance, just one where your partner can't keep up very well

[olive ember]

literally just stole old vets abilities kekw

[shell maple]

Still salty Vet ult doesnt reload anymore

[olive ember]

not particularly sure why they removed that part tbh

the 75% toughness DR was stupid

but

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[umbral helm]

I feel like they know Vet compared to the other classes is just "guy that shoots real good" and they're afraid of that, and wanna make it stand out somehow, but all their attempts at doing it just tend to make the class worse

[primal tusk]

i made my vet into woman that does the stabby stabby with occasional pewpew

[olive ember]

the problem is that vet was stupid broken before class rework, so some of the things were a way to balance them

the problem is every other class got buffed, and enemy health values also got tuned in general

so power creep more or less

and vets also got like 3 iterations of their class tree

I think it's better now but vet tree has serious point bloat still to my knowledge

in terms of general strength they are fine, probably on the weaker side but thats ogryn needing to be tuned down and zealots also are tanky as shit rn

[ornate hamlet]

vet is goated

vet is based

[umbral helm]

ye, they tiptoe around Vet a lot more than the others, is my point. like they're afraid they're gonna break it again

[ornate hamlet]

could use some tweaks like FUCKING NUKING SURVIVALIST SO I STOP HEARING SHIT REDDIT TAKES OF "I HAVE NO AMMO IF THERE ISN'T A SURVIVALIST VET MIMIMIMIMIMI"

but

melee vet funny

all grenades are based

the non-meta auras are simple, but good

[cold geode]

my melee/plasma vet with spooky disappear powers is awsome

[ornate hamlet]

shout and stealth are awesome

exec stance feels like a relic of old times, but more power to people who can use it well I guess

I don't like survivalist, exec stance and marksman or whatever was the left keystone

[umbral helm]

ye, the class is alright, aside from the bloated tree. but that was never the point, it's that development around the class has always been fucky, they're the only one that's had their skills reworked this much

[ornate hamlet]

but the stuff like bleed on melee hit, suppression immunity, melee finesse and crit chance on the same node, ability damage buffs, grenade regen

good shit

weapon specialist doing the funny "reloading is gay"

which if the description is accurate, you can technically match with crucian roulette for a 100% crit revolver

[near drift]

yee haw moment

[umbral helm]

Vet tree is sort of like how Surge staff was, for a while. constantly needing tweaks because something messed up, or needed to be different. even now, there's still stuff that needs to be changed, after all the improvements, like the points needed to reach the bottom or exec stance being what it is, and survivalist aura. it just can't rest

[marsh prism]

love me hybrid stealth vet it's very fun to be a walking blender with a knife

[half iron]

i don't think this psyker is happy

[sly dawn]

they don't look happy

[ornate hamlet]

Homie's doing that anime thing where they look away shyly

[eager mantle]

They just need to bake base survivalist into all the vet auras and put all the discussion to rest. Vets get to go any path and no one bitches about no ammo aura with a vet.

[ornate hamlet]

Remove it

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-flip-gif-26232902

[eager mantle]

Rather not deal with the bitching. They made their bed having it exist.

[safe pendant]

Maybe they should be better shots

[half iron]

every day i wake up
24 plasteel

[ornate hamlet]

Burn the bed

[half iron]

hadron would brick my bed before i could burn it

[potent echo]

Just give everyone ammo on melee kill or something

[vast yew]

make ammo aura like Psykinetic Aura

normal talent node

also what do we think; crit chance or unyielding stays?

[ornate hamlet]

I know what they should give vet

[vast yew]

can't imagine Illisi Monster damage is going to be much to write home about even with unyielding, while crit chance helps proc mettle/PT

[ornate hamlet]

your mother

[lethal lagoon]

I likea da maniac crit

[feral verge]

Keep crit Chance

[vast yew]

cool that's what I was thinking

[lethal lagoon]

Even if you just spam normal lmbs, it'll shred a mutant if it crits once

I mean don't do that, but you can do that

[ornate hamlet]

me when I CSS the blessing descriptions

[vast yew]

now the age old question: flak or maniac

[ornate hamlet]

finna style that span with a color:blue;

[vast yew]

time to test it's maniac damage

lmao no I won't I'm 2 plasteel short

[lethal lagoon]

Flak on illy?

[ornate hamlet]

poor people expose themselves

[vast yew]

Flak on any melee is always a solid choice as it's the highest # of targets but Imma see what it looks like vs a Mutie first

since that's the more important thing

[lethal lagoon]

Flak on ogryn or zealot melee sure.

But flak on Psyker melee?

I guess it's playstyle dependent

[vast yew]

it's an upgrade over my old Illisi at any rate:

pretty sure Maniacs is gonna be the way to go

okay turns out it's leaving muties with like sub-50 hp a lot so yeah definitley maniacs

[ornate hamlet]

lack of canny

[fast plover]

Hey there fellow space mages
I need some fun Scrier's Gaze builds
Got any?

[vast yew]

Guns

specifically Columnus and Laspistol

[fast plover]

Any specific?

[vast yew]

Mk5 Columnus Infantry Autogun and either Laspistol

[zinc tartan]

I've not played with Purgatus that much yet. Is this an ok buy from Melks?

[vast yew]

There's also some funky Voidstrike and Surge builds floating around but they're weird

[vast yew]

cloud radius is low but that's really not bad, and you can sac it later

[fast plover]

I found that Purgatus works with Scrier's REALLY good

[vast yew]

swap Stamina -> Flak

[vast yew]

honestly Purg doesn't usually need it

with Nexus you're up to like 40% crit chance anyways

[fast plover]

I need that

[vast yew]

aight time to go get 2 plasteel and swap to Maniacs

[zinc tartan]

The guide I am looking at recommends keeping Ranged Crit on it.

[vast yew]

yeah keep the crit and swap the +1.5 Stam to Flak

[fast plover]

You see, thing is, that I'm enjoying Scrier's so much, that I actually playing psyker, since I'm more into melee vet/zea
But Duelling sword + Scrier's is a best mode, it's like knife zealot, but actually fun and good

So I'm looking for some interesting range stuff

Been thinking about Trauma or Void

[zinc tartan]

Got any recommend talents and melee? I would love to take it for a spin real quick and get a feel for Purgatus

[vast yew]

lemme whip up a quick build

as for melee: something that can deal with crushers, so either Deimos or DS4

[zinc tartan]

Been using this for my trauma and surge build

[vast yew]

that works

you want shriek or dome

[zinc tartan]

Yeah, I have to use Shriek

[vast yew]

something like that

[zinc tartan]

Ahhh

that is identical to what ive been using

[vast yew]

ah well there ya go

[zinc tartan]

awesome thanks for the advice! gonna give it a go

[vast yew]

let us know how it goes

you will eventually want one that's practically identical but has higher Cloud Radius

Damage and Warp Resistance are both OK to drop a bit

but in the meantime that should perfrom A-OK

[untold widget]

this for a purg build?

yeah gotta be

There's something to say for going for toughness warp charges instead of peril warp charges, considering how fast you can build charges with soulfire

but other than that that build is good to go

[harsh grotto]

Agreed on toughness warp charges if you're going with Purg - purg has such a low peril cost anyway that you definitely dont need the increased peril resistance from 6 warp stacks.

[devout robin]

the regen on warp kill is also worthwhile if you wanted to do some personal rearrangement

[cobalt atlas]

Purg staff crits with headshot?

I don’t think so right

[harsh grotto]

dont think it can hit weakspots, but it cna definitely crit

crits apply double stack of soulblaze

[cobalt atlas]

What is the base damage for soul blaze btw

[potent echo]

Psyker atheneum, bookmark it

[devout robin]

the sweet spot is around 6 for letting poxwalkers die on their own without additional follow-up iirc

[potent echo]

6 kills everything up to bruisers

But you need some warp rider and/or perfect timing

But bruisers usually run to you and seek death, so it's usually not too much to worry about

[umbral helm]

I like humbling ragers sometimes with an lmb into a staff bonk to throw them on the floor, so they can think about what they did

[ornate hamlet]

wait, hold the fuck up

are you telling me

2 stacks of soublaze is not the damage of 1 stack + the damage of 1 stack

[pallid spindle]

Correct

[ornate hamlet]

and that 3 is not 1+2

but 2+2

AND MORE

[queen fog]

Flame math is weird

[ornate hamlet]

and then that stacks 26 to 30 are minuscule gains

why is this game like this

who thinks of this

I'm calling my mom

[spice veldt]

it''s a sigmoid-like function

very whack

[queen fog]

Graph makes brain hurty less

[potent echo]

It's fine actually, linear and exponential would get really whack really fast

[umbral helm]

this is part of why I don't care to a degree and just play the game, it's more fun. the statistics are neat to read, though

[potent echo]

4 soulblaze psykers would destroy the world

[umbral helm]

they kind of do as it is now if they're not stupid

[potent echo]

Yea and that's with diminishing returns

Imagine if it didn't

[violet oak]

4 soulblaze psykers should destroy the world

its just that shrimple

[ornate hamlet]

Fatshark should copyright the expression "hold on, what the fuck" so they gain money each time they update the game

Considering how much I said it by this point

[potent echo]

At least they updated the game (finally)

[cold elm]

i do not understand why people like smite. its damage is horrible on damnation

[severe folio]

because its not meant for damage

[potent echo]

Because you can ignore getting good at the game

[cold elm]

what is its purpose then

[potent echo]

Hold lmb

[umbral helm]

I mean I ran an auric maelstrom with a buddy once, just the two of us cleaned house. the two random zealots we got were pretty good too though. good team altogether

[severe folio]

purpose is sto stall

to stall

[cobalt atlas]

Yes I remember this because people keep telling me that Purg Burn rate is important

Like damage is garbage stats but burn need to be >75%

[potent echo]

Burn stat is important because you want max burn stacks

76%

[umbral helm]

also yeah smite isn't intended to kill outright, it can, but its purpose is to buy time

[potent echo]

So yea >75%

[severe folio]

76% is the minimum you need for the maximum soulblaze cap

[potent echo]

I would accept smite gunker so they can build peril to vent

But smite trauma hurts me

[umbral helm]

yeah, lot of people use it as a free-ish peril generator

[potent echo]

Smite also gives gunker some aoe CC

[cold elm]

this is the one i main. thoughts?

[cobalt atlas]

What about smite purg

[cold elm]

you have no range

[potent echo]

No infested, replace with maniac or crit

[cold elm]

dont recommend

[potent echo]

Also burn is 74% F

[cobalt atlas]

I’m running smite purg because Siphon Warp give high peril generation reduction

[potent echo]

So you get max 14 stacks instead of max 15 stacks

Does 1 stack matter? Yea against maulers and bosses

[severe folio]

but when would you smite when you have a purg

[potent echo]

From the table it's around ~12 damage from 14 to 15

[severe folio]

and when would you purg when you have a smite

[queen fog]

Bring both

[severe folio]

dont bring both its redundant

[queen fog]

Stun them during the burn, life good

[kindred ivy]

smite can outdo purgatus

[potent echo]

I will just quit if someone brings that

[spice veldt]

purg does more damage and smite can stun crushers

[cobalt atlas]

I just smite when see elites/crusher

[potent echo]

All this is bait, stay strong me 🙏

[severe folio]

at which part does smite outdo purg

[cobalt atlas]

Then wait for people to kill it eventually

[cobalt atlas]

No no no no

Don’t talk to him

He have shit build

[severe folio]

true

[cold elm]

purg actually kills things. smite does not

[cobalt atlas]

I tried his shit build for 30 minutes

[severe folio]

idk about shit build but hes a furry

[cobalt atlas]

I want to kill myself

[cold elm]

purg also pushes pretty well

[severe folio]

for crushers or elite that you cant kill wit purg

which is pretty much mauler and crushers

[cold elm]

thats what bb is for

[severe folio]

no

just use your mk4 lol

[cold elm]

fair