psyker-class

[kindred ivy]

elite or special

whatever

[grave tapir]

I had a crazy clutch earlier on the map where you purge the growths and slowly spiral up all the levels with the rotating platforms. Someone shot a barrel which launched me down a level, a sniper shot immediately hit me and knocked me another level down. Somehow I'm alive with a sliver of health and the entire team goes down. I have to wind my way back up and rescue them all

[kindred ivy]

to proc the flames

[echo island]

Nope EP does not activate with Specials

[kindred ivy]

oh not that

the flames

not EP

[vast yew]

the medicae at the bottom is clutch for when those shenanigans happen

[echo island]

Without EP smite does ass damage

[kindred ivy]

EP u can get by killing the horde

its 4.5%

[olive ember]

flames trigger off specials psure

[kindred ivy]

u easelyl kill 20+ enemies on a horde

[echo island]

7.5 %

[kindred ivy]

only with the upgrade no?

[grave tapir]

Yeah I did hit that

[echo island]

upgrade is 12.5

[kindred ivy]

so even easier

u dont rely on elites for EP
U rely on them for the flames

[hot zephyr]

Why take Loadstone when you can take 100% chance on elite kill?

[kindred ivy]

killing elites is easy

[echo island]

No I get what you're trying to do Maus, but Im telling u, this shit only works cuz revolver op
Also this is not a GUnker lmao, any other class can shoot just as well with that gun

[kindred ivy]

vraks, can do it, agrip can do it, etc

[echo island]

its just overall so busted

[kindred ivy]

the revolver is busted cause of handcannon imo

[echo island]

I guess Vrak aint a bad replacement

[plucky flax]

Why the zealot not running loner?

[kindred ivy]

but a agrip braced will MELT elites

also i run games with frens, we insta kick all loner zealots

no quesitons asked, if we see one on the lobby is: change aura or out

[echo island]

eh braced lacks carapace killing power, also lacks accuracy to snipe out the gunners

[violet oak]

Make them have a stroke say you brought smite and (objectively bad weapon here)

[plucky flax]

Wow loner hate.

[kindred ivy]

not really, the first few shot s are PRETTY good.

useless aura,

and for ???? reason its always the suicide missile zealots using it

[echo island]

if you come close enough to kill a gunner with braced there are dozen other ways to kill them faster as Syker

[plucky flax]

I get top damage with loner aura.

It's so op.

[vocal iron]

https://tenor.com/view/frog-chill-gif-7771013229184068709

mfw reading psyker chat

[kindred ivy]

it really does nothing

loner aura

also that smite build originated from the buggy bubble shield

[vast yew]

because he isn't completely garbage at the game saving points for his stealth hammer build

[echo island]

Tbh Maus, ur builds prob better with a Voidstrike staff. It really has that little to do with a gun

[kindred ivy]

i used to run bubble shield with void charegs when the bug existed (u could spam 1 bubble shield per void charge)

[plucky flax]

The build is as useless as loner aura.

[echo island]

Quelling time is irrelevant in this build cuz u quell so quickly anyways

[kindred ivy]

then they nerfed it i doubled down on smite duration

it just happens that it will do a lot of dmg

its a CC build

[echo island]

from 99 to 0 in like seconds at best so a force ranged weapon is not that much different compared to a gun

[vast yew]

Surge-Voidstrike is a CC build too
After all, the best CC is death

[kindred ivy]

it doesnt matter how or where, u always want to see the crushers paralysed for eternity

[kindred ivy]

the point isnt the quelling

[echo island]

This is the way

[kindred ivy]

its how much peril i have left

if i voidstrike

and instantly need to smite

i know i have 100% availiable with revolver

[echo island]

Yeah but my point is, kill shits with void, quell for like half a sec

back to smite

[kindred ivy]

to long without smite

unironically

i know it may sound "non fullly optimized or something"

but i cannot stress how safe it is, insta zap

knowing u have full peril

[echo island]

Its not about unoptimized, its about being less reliant on an obviously op weapon

[kindred ivy]

its a build about CC, and only CC, the dmg there is a plus;

[vocal iron]

[kindred ivy]

it just happens its a huge plus

[echo island]

eh whatever if Fatshark doesnt nerf the revolver its prob the best option for this build, I digress

[kindred ivy]

cause revolver

[cold geode]

[kindred ivy]

u cna see on my scores i have good elite kills etc. but its not just cause revolver, smiet + brn will do 250 dps, that shit uhh will kill i think all shotgunners and gunners (potentially finish off ragers) in a horde.

(dmg is 50% EP and burns)

+10% from the smite addon

275 dps

even if handcannon gets a nerf, i can reliably kill shotugnners and gunners with it

it iwll never be so low it cant kill those 2 types of elites

[olive ember]

handcannon nerf didn't mean much

[untold widget]

I for one can't wait for the gameplay videos

[kindred ivy]

they can nerf it even highe

[olive ember]

cuz revovler can still hit 100% rending

yeah

[kindred ivy]

i would just put flak + maniac dmg

on it

[olive ember]

the nerf basically didn't do anything for the min max cuz you can still hit 100% rending

[kindred ivy]

instead of reload speed

[plucky flax]

Both of the other 2 psykers used smite but they didn't use your build so their damage was lower than me.

[olive ember]

just that you need to specificalyl build for the rending

[olive ember]

what staff >.>

[kindred ivy]

clearly not as good

[olive ember]

also just had my first matchmaking orthus hard clear

[plucky flax]

You can see loadout in the scoreboard.

[untold widget]

says in the chart, void

[olive ember]

well it wasn't matchmaking after the first run we merged strike teams

[kindred ivy]

also 10k stagger + 18k stagger 💪

[olive ember]

first fucking time in my entire time playing darktide

[kindred ivy]

nothing could move

epic

[olive ember]

oh

as expected then

[kindred ivy]

say what u want elites not moving will always be good

[plucky flax]

Was true. They both smited at the same time.

It was double smiting.

I was like bruh but okay.

[kindred ivy]

EP?

[olive ember]

obscures FS

E moment

[untold widget]

imagine being that scared of elites that you'll sit there for 4 god damn minutes doing force lightning instead of just murdering them

[plucky flax]

They both ran warp charges.

[kindred ivy]

ah

there it is

[plucky flax]

For faster creeping flame probably.

[naive sonnet]

what melee weapons do gunkers like? I'm on the Mk4 dueling but wanna try something new

[orchid nest]

it's alright. I prefer them to be dead. in a good enough team smite is just slowing them down. it's good for carrying mid players though

[kindred ivy]

EP!

[ionic needle]

The game went okay, had another smite psyker in the team though so I didn't really see it shine with EP

[kindred ivy]

revolver!

[olive ember]

mfw EP smite is somehow not dogshit

idk how to feel

[untold widget]

dw

[ionic needle]

Also that Veteran kept killing all the fun stuff :<

[untold widget]

it's still dogshit as a main source of damage

[plucky flax]

Mausmiter is just built different.

[half iron]

at least the veteran can aim (whoa) that means kill faster than them

[kindred ivy]

the most important thing is protecting your team.

by SMITING

[cold geode]

Imgine doing 600k + DMG in a high shock mainly using force lightning....

[plucky flax]

I'd be very interesting in watching a full maelstrom game when you solo queue.

[kindred ivy]

FUCKING SMITE

DMG

we can play

i can run tihs shit

[plucky flax]

Idk what your region I am on europe server.

[kindred ivy]

BRAZIL

[plucky flax]

But can you smite with ping?

[clear zenith]

I'm trying maus' build, admittedly only a fresh 30, but the amount of cc is so helpful. It is a team game after all and making things so easy for the team is a huge benefit 😅

[plucky flax]

[kindred ivy]

🇧🇷

[kindred ivy]

sorry if u not instakilling everyhing its literally useles

u cna clearlly see the difference between smite running vs not, how much faster your team can clear etc

[untold widget]

yeah when I first played I ended up doing a CC based smite build where I just chain smite'd everything waiting for the team to group up and kill them

[clear zenith]

Whoops better uninstall

[untold widget]

but then I grew up

and started murdering myself

[plucky flax]

[kindred ivy]

yeah ignore my kills on my scoreboard

i most def kill nothing there

[calm lotus]

prayers to the omnissiah

i think i get this to purple with my current plasteel

[kindred ivy]

NOW ROLL IT

[ionic needle]

inb4 hadron

[clear zenith]

The fact the damage is high is a bonus imo, completely nullifying any major threat aside from bosses is awesome

[plucky flax]

You only need decent perks and dumdum tbh.

[half iron]

i rolled a good amongus rifle
now for hadron to steal my plasteel and said rifle

[plucky flax]

So it's not super hard to make a nice columbus.

[calm lotus]

will my toil today be rewarded?

[kindred ivy]

the original build was exclusivelly based on that

[calm lotus]

after about 15 games of plasteel?

[kindred ivy]

back on the infinite bubble shield glitch

but it got removed i had to double down on the C

[calm lotus]

the answer is no

[kindred ivy]

C

CC

[clear zenith]

Plus the duelling sword and revolver weirdly had the exact right blessings the first one I upgraded so I consider it a sign 😁

[calm lotus]

i'm tired

[kindred ivy]

its a great build

[plucky flax]

Keep rolling if you get dumdum as last blessing.

Then you can change both perks.

[calm lotus]

i refuse to be forced into raking fire

[kindred ivy]

CC build, even if it does no dmg, the insane CC will help your team torn

[orchid nest]

raking fire is great for a monstrosity columnus though. nice to have for monstrous specials

[kindred ivy]

for example i run this with a ogryn fren, and he runs gunluger + the 1 shot shotgun.

it properlly becomes a race between the 2 dmg sources

[orchid nest]

but yeah it needs to naturally roll dumdum to save it

[kindred ivy]

kick back sees al the shotgunners i lined up with smite, and just splits them open

[untold widget]

will do

[kindred ivy]

noticed

continue coping and seething, while i keep winning aurics, its fine

[ionic needle]

I'm wondering if wildfire and psychic leeching are worthwhile talents to take on it

[kindred ivy]

the moment i noticed it could do dmg with fire

its when it 👀

cause stacked flames + EP

does 250 dps

[untold widget]

wildfire is almost never a worthwhile talent to take

[kindred ivy]

which will annihilate most elites except acarapace

[ionic needle]

Also maybe columnus instead of revolver might be worth it

[kindred ivy]

clearlly a hater and doenst know how the build works

[untold widget]

i know how the build works

[kindred ivy]

if the revolver gets nerfed

i'll need a substitute potentially

[plucky flax]

https://tenor.com/view/michael-jackson-eating-popcorn-enjoy-i-like-nom-nom-gif-11040065238845078056

[calm lotus]

still got another 2 to put through shit

[clear zenith]

Would you rate the +10% DMG on smite? Could lose a toughness perk and that and get the peril blocking perk instead

[kindred ivy]

but while it can still kill flak maniac and shotgunners

its fine

[ionic needle]

columnus is more fun

[kindred ivy]

at max stacks EP + flames will do 250 dps

• 10% is 275 dps

it can diminish 1 tick it takes ot kill some elites

[clear zenith]

Ah it's your damage too not just team makes a lot more sense

[kindred ivy]

also helps team

[ionic needle]

the toughness gain on EP use doesn't seem very good, I noticed the charge doesn't get consumed until I stop using smite

[devout robin]

it's good on stuff that isn't smite

[ionic needle]

and that's not really when I want toughness back

Yeah I guess

[kindred ivy]

the first talents are great for smite tho

[devout robin]

i like it on gun psyker because spamming assail is immediate 45% free toughness

[kindred ivy]

generate peril -> toughness regen, quell, toughness regen etc

[cold geode]

this is from a high shock i was running the other day with surge staff, BFS, and smite. I was mainly using smite the entire match.

[kindred ivy]

u cna facetank a gunner

in that

🙏

the school of the moussmite

[ionic needle]

Giving it another try, this time with columnus, ds4 and without wildfire

[kindred ivy]

Way of the mice 🐭

[plucky flax]

Another sad scoreboard with low plasteels.

[kindred ivy]

the way of the mice is real

sorry

[clear zenith]

🐭

[devout robin]

what's the intention of ur build

[primal tusk]

either i am trying a Jojo pose, or theres a big wind current and my hat's blowing away

[clear zenith]

What do you run for curios? Not listed on the build link

[kindred ivy]

CDR + block efficiency

[ionic needle]

to see if maus is talking shit or not 😛

[kindred ivy]

but u can run whatever, CDR is great tho

[kindred ivy]

hey if its dogshit do tell, i might be able to put a point somehwere else

never changed it, cause its soo reliable

[devout robin]

just ignore them

they've been trying to bait the entire time they've been in here

[kindred ivy]

they already believe in the way of the mice

[devout robin]

you'll prove it and then they'll ignore it

[ionic needle]

I've played this class since launch, I don't really mind trying new things

[primal tusk]

i feel like i am playing Psyker all wrong, but i am having fun doing it

[kindred ivy]

look according to these dudes i am the one aparently playing rotten shit

but somehow i keep winning and doing high dmg, so i think ur doing fine

have fun

[devout robin]

we've established that your build is fine, you're just giving shit advice in regards to it

like how you kill elites well when that is your revolver and not your build

[kindred ivy]

me when i say how my build works and why i biuld that way and they wanna know why i built that way

[devout robin]

which is like

fine

you're just going to misinform people

[kindred ivy]

revolver is part of the build

a elite killer is very pivotal here

else its just CC

[vast yew]

Revolver and PC are the key points to the build, IMO

[kindred ivy]

which is fince CC are awesome

[vast yew]

how you clear the horde after sniping the elites is up to you

[untold widget]

you're just overinflating the helpfulness of horde control

[devout robin]

^

[untold widget]

its hordes

[kindred ivy]

elite contorll

[untold widget]

not the most dangerous thing in the world

[kindred ivy]

and special too

u forget smite can stop those

[untold widget]

if an elite lives for longer than 2 seconds, your team is terrible

no, I don't

[kindred ivy]

me when my team needs more than 2 seconds to kill the 10 maulers that appears

oh no really dogshit

anyway we won the match

[untold widget]

yeah

[kindred ivy]

without trouble

speed =/= how good u are

[orchid nest]

I don't think he forgot it's just that on good teams elites and specials die so fast it becomes a competition to kill them

[primal tusk]

so ever since first launching the game all of my teams have been terrible including me

[kindred ivy]

reliability is good

[untold widget]

voidstrike with true aim set up can one shot an entire hallway of maulers

[kindred ivy]

eles knife loner zealot would be amazing

epic than do that in your games

[untold widget]

I do

[kindred ivy]

i'll keep winning my way

[untold widget]

you should try it

[devout robin]

i mean your build is fine, just stop giving people shit advice in here

this is a channel that's meant to be helpful and informative

[kindred ivy]

"my way of winning: based and redpilled"
"your way of winning: bad and cringe"

me when i show a smite based build that can kill elites 🙀

[primal tusk]

talking about Loner, i saw it gives +2 in coherency always, but like, what does it do? like the coherency thing

[plucky flax]

It's very based.

[kindred ivy]

makes u play like an idiot

it gives u 1 chromosome extra

that the coherency

i hate loner aura

holy i very much dislike it

[plucky flax]

Try it maybe you'll like it.

[untold widget]

it makes it so your coherency talents still work when you fuck off and abandon your team to wait in an elevator

[kindred ivy]

i dont play zealot ever since i cant oneshot shit as easelly

[primal tusk]

i mean like, playing alone is helpful at the easier difficulties since teams tend to stray from eachother anyway

[plucky flax]

It helps in all difficulty for solo plasteels picking incursion.

[untold widget]

zealot can use revolvers

so you're good there

[primal tusk]

i use the MK X laspistol on my zealot

[vast yew]

OG Revolver is the best gift Fatshark ever gave Zealot

[devout robin]

OG revolver is so good

[kindred ivy]

revolver is nice

[vast yew]

Up to 5 problems removed at the drop of a hat, just an excellent pocket sniper

[kindred ivy]

i have a good bolter in my vet, its just soo klunky

[primal tusk]

am prob gonna run the fan fire revolver on my psyker

[kindred ivy]

fun

i wanna try that

[frozen fiber]

bolter is to slow

[kindred ivy]

might be the way if they nerf the current one

[vast yew]

Fan the Hammer Revolver is fun but annoying in that it can't pen targets

[kindred ivy]

yeah that the problem

[kindred ivy]

oh hey didnt u play with me earlier?

[vast yew]

Poxwalkers act like Secret Service members jumping in the way of Ragers and specialists with the new revolver

[primal tusk]

like i said, i am probably running psyker all wrong playing it more like a mixture of zealot and veteran

[frozen fiber]

yup

[vast yew]

when you're leveling that's kinda how it goes; you basically only have Blitzes to work with

[kindred ivy]

can u explain ot these gentlemen hte usefullness of my EP smiet on our matches?

[vast yew]

once you get to 30 and can get decent Staves is when the class really opens up

[primal tusk]

decided to run Smite for now stun the waves and then shooty slicey

[frozen fiber]

smite is fun, lets me cut them up into pieces with my 2 handed chain sword

[kindred ivy]

thank you

🙏

[rose dagger]

Yea staves are trash when you first unlock them cause how slow they charge and how much peril they generate

[primal tusk]

i tend to be deeper into enemy hordes than the ogryn or the zealot

[vast yew]

Me when I start a new Psyker and the Trauma takes 2.5 seconds to fully charge:

why tf is that the first staff they give people

[kindred ivy]

me when staves

sorry

dont know about those.

[primal tusk]

loaded into a game like this and then server crash

[opal gyro]

Epic

[vast yew]

Certified Fatshark moment

[feral verge]

too many wounds

not enough toughness

what level are you

[primal tusk]

14

[feral verge]

oh nvm

[primal tusk]

derp, 16

[kindred ivy]

mankar had his big iron ready to talk shit about your build carefull

do not let them know ur using smite

[primal tusk]

and i am playing sedition

should run 2 health 1 toughness right?

[frozen fiber]

mausmiter, share you build? so i can put it on my psyker?

[plucky flax]

Hi sedition fren.

[feral verge]

3x toughness

[primal tusk]

[feral verge]

or 2x toughness 1 hp

[vast yew]

there's also 2x hp 1x toughness and 1x hp 1x toughness 1x stamina as options

IMO 1 hp, 1 toughness, 1 flex is 👌

[kindred ivy]

🤔 what the fuck do i run

i think i run toughness

i think

[primal tusk]

honestly thinking one of these days either morris or rannick will kick me off the ship for running sedition whilst having level 30's

[frozen fiber]

@kindred ivy share you smite build?

[vast yew]

3x toughness is handy for staving off gunners but if your toughness breaks you die real fast

[kindred ivy]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9adc2137-9c76-4c0b-bab2-c6f84aaf8f77/gun-psycher-is-objectivelly-better

[vast yew]

it's a Revolver build, not a Smite build

[kindred ivy]

its a smite biuld

revovler kills elites

[frozen fiber]

thank you

[kindred ivy]

anything that kills elits will work fine

just kill them fast, and smite

[vast yew]

if that build used a Voidstrike to kill Elites it'd be a Voidstrike build

hence, Revolver build

[kindred ivy]

no,

that generates peril

[glossy ember]

wrong

i won't elaborate

[kindred ivy]

🤝

no peril generation outside from smite

[near drift]

Based

[frozen fiber]

first try

[kindred ivy]

Way of the mice detected

Against all the heresy that nurgle can conjure, all the wickedness that decay can produce. We’ll send unto them, only you. Smite until it is done”

[near radish]

Joke's on you, I'm into that shit!

[kindred ivy]

not suitable for this build

[lethal lagoon]

Things that generate peril can be used to quell smite peril much faster than smite can though 🤷‍♂️

I think you have to accept you are a Gunker mouse.

[kindred ivy]

i quell fast enough with the perk

the point is ot not have to quell when i switch from another weapon

[lethal lagoon]

Well no, you'd quell with that weapon. so it wouldn't be switch from.

[kindred ivy]

100% pure smite energy drink

the point is that if i use a staf, then switch id have peril

if i quell i have to quell and that takes time

[lethal lagoon]

Still going to gain time when you need to quell smite.

[kindred ivy]

ofc yes

but when i crucially need a instant 100% peril useage smiet

then what

[lethal lagoon]

Surge smite will always be the smite build

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[kindred ivy]

surge generates peril, os u either have to queel then switch or do a smite wiht less availiable peril

the ides is to maximize stun time

[lethal lagoon]

Right, which having a staff to quell in between smites does

[kindred ivy]

especially from swithcing from your elite killer

[echo island]

I think the point of Maus smite build is to maximize the value of a EP smite, hence why we always want a 1-100 smite

[kindred ivy]

not only that, ofc between smites i quell silly!

[echo island]

Ngl Maus your build kinda works, but its clunky af

[vast yew]

The point of Maus build it to pretend he’s spamming smite when he’s actually using a revolver

[kindred ivy]

but the first smite NEEDS TO BE FULL

[vast yew]

To trigger people on the discord

[kindred ivy]

the revolver ISNT killing 1K ppl a match

[primal tusk]

had my first game with smite, team got overwhelmed on sedition had to clutch

[kindred ivy]

youll get better toasty!

take it ieasy!

[vale nacelle]

If you're worried about stun time you'll get more out of a siphon build

[kindred ivy]

see, because i have 100% peril availiable i dont have ot run suphon

and instead i can do EP

[primal tusk]

honestly it was kind of a weird sedition level, massive squads of maulers

[vast yew]

neither is smite

[kindred ivy]

then what is?

[vast yew]

You have creeping flames and PC

[kindred ivy]

thats like half the dmg

[vast yew]

Lots of heavy lifting there

Okay so smite only kills 500 then

[kindred ivy]

it also kills them QUICKER

which means i dont lose the flame stacks

like they dont wear off

[ionic needle]

Running columnus with it didn't really work

[vast yew]

6 flame stacks kills pox walkers

The stacks only fall off if they die

[primal tusk]

is empowered psionics good?

[kindred ivy]

the flames wear off after a while

[echo island]

See, in my opinion, I think Maus smite build is clunky due to the fact that doing a 1-100 smite is almost always kinda dumb, even when powered by EP.
Its almost always better to not rely on a EP and just smite anyways, instead of holding a 1-100 smite you just hold smite for half a sec and knock enemies on their asses then go in for the kill

[kindred ivy]

if the person doesnt die

[vast yew]

They wear off after 11 ticks

[echo island]

but I guess thats just me

[calm lotus]

fuuuuck

[rose dagger]

Deleted one of my alts to make another zealot recently so I had to play sedition and... Half the team would go down to a single mauler

Pretty funny

[kindred ivy]

oh i dont mind not having EP, i'll smite EP or not availiable

[vast yew]

6 soul laze stacks is enough damage to kill pozwalkers and groaners

[kindred ivy]

that wont kill the other elites

and bruizers

[naive sonnet]

ehh 20% unarmoreds okay

[tulip trench]

alright whats better
blaze trauma
or
brittle trauma

blaze seems like maybe kinda overkill redundant? Since trauma insta kills small ads instantly and the brittle might be better than the dot against big uns

[vast yew]

Blaze better but harder to build and play

[lethal lagoon]

Personally, fire frenzy is kind of lame in my opinion, because by the time you hit 5 stacks, you usually have to reload. DumDum and Speedload might work well 🤷‍♂️

[kindred ivy]

with thisl i'll kill all dreg/scab shooters, bruizers and sctalkers

[echo island]

What difficulty u on

[kindred ivy]

[echo island]

Blaze trauma is built for Dam+

[tulip trench]

ive had success with both on auric dam

[kindred ivy]

that lil combo of them both will kill all shooters!

and broizers

[vast yew]

Shooters also die to 6 stacks lol

[echo island]

Imo blaze trauma is superior

[kindred ivy]

bruizers, and fast?

[long stone]

Dum dum and raking fire is honestly the best since raking fire is set always and you don’t have to rely on stacks, not too hard to get behind enemies and helps melts bosses as well.

[kindred ivy]

the 250 dps will also kill shotgunners

and gunners

[primal tusk]

also fun fact Melk is Milk in dutch, so its literally Sire Milk for me

[calm lotus]

put this one up too and fuck you

[kindred ivy]

at 250, i'll kill also all specials (except mutie) and ragers

[fierce crest]

if youre brave enough melk is milk in english too

[echo island]

or you dont have to go through all this troubles with smite and just voidstrike and drill a hole throught space time lol
Everything deleted

[long stone]

Good

[lethal lagoon]

I can't really picture ever being behind enemies with columbus, except maybe bosses yeah, but non-weakspots on bosses are kind of ammo burning(other than slugs but I don't know if that counts as a back hit).

[kindred ivy]

but do u keep them stunned? if your team is caught of guard

[echo island]

They stunned when they dead

[tulip trench]

For what reason though? im trying to rationale it out. Brittle helps with bosses and carapace, blaze seems to do little to anything other than hordes. Is it just that in auric since enemy density is so high its better for extra breathing room?

[kindred ivy]

1 needs chargetime.

2 wont hold them off while this happens

[long stone]

You technically don’t have to be behind enemies it’s a 180 cone field of view so being beside them procs raking fire

[tulip trench]

also, Trauma Brittle only applies from the RMB attack not the LMB correct?

[kindred ivy]

3 smite can guarantee the team's safety + helps objectives a fucking TON

[echo island]

No cuz trauma already deals with tougher enemies, brittle just kinda overkills

[vast yew]

Blaze Trauma and Purge will outdamage, yes

[orchid nest]

raking fire is good for monstrosity columnus. the second blessing on columnus is pretty flexible is the main thing. maybe if/when they up fire frenzy to 15m it'll be more mandatory

[kindred ivy]

then why it doesnt ?

ive shown multiple games with other psychers

[vast yew]

Your staves are shit, and you’ve never shown the staves others use

So I have no evidence to go off of with those screenshots except your word

[kindred ivy]

either am goated, all the psychers i play with have shit staves, o rmy build is good

[long stone]

Staves this staves that bro just fucking shoot them goofy

[kindred ivy]

i do

i run revove

[long stone]

Based

[echo island]

we have seen much more impressive numbers with trauma blaze/void

[kindred ivy]

but not this much safety and CC

[primal tusk]

am just gonna run my psyker space cowboy with random brainpops due to Kinetic flayer

[vast yew]

Nah Trauna is safe as heck

[kindred ivy]

revolver has no chargetime

[long stone]

C O R R E C T

[vast yew]

No kinetic flayer

[kindred ivy]

and good range

[tulip trench]

Trauma ive been topping dmg with 600-800K its nutty, and usually least dmg taken

[orchid nest]

trauma is enough safety tbh. I would always rather have a good trauma user on my team than a smiter if I had to choose

[echo island]

eh if anything I do think smite is safer for the average pub teams

[primal tusk]

it doesnt matter too much since i am never going to malice or above

[vast yew]

And this is why it’s a revolver build not a smite build lol

[kindred ivy]

its both, revolver makes flames

its 50 50

at most

[vast yew]

Your main weapon to deal with problems is revolver. Soulblaze and EP smite are just the waveclear

[echo island]

the only thing you can trust the average pub team to do is to walk forward and left click
Smite at least help them with that 9/10 times

[kindred ivy]

its smite, its a CC build

^^

also that

its just so good

[vast yew]

If I take Frags on my Vet it’s not a Frag build

The blitz doesn’t define the build

[kindred ivy]

very diferent here

[vast yew]

Sure

[kindred ivy]

you know blitz are WAYYYY more central ot a psycher

[echo island]

Tbh I actually think Maus just smite all the time

[kindred ivy]

since its infinite

[echo island]

Cant frag all the time with a frag vet

[feral verge]

i prefer brittle trauma

[kindred ivy]

i smite, and dodge sideways

[primal tusk]

if i take rocks on my ogryn, the build pretty much rocks

[kindred ivy]

to keep up

[feral verge]

i dont find blaze trauma to be any more or less difficult than brittle trauma

[kindred ivy]

try smite

[vast yew]

Yeah but you have 1600 hours

[lethal lagoon]

Guy tryhards with revolver, posts about his "smite build", starts the same argument, repeat the next day... sigh...

[feral verge]

there's nothing about it that maeks me think it takes more or less skill

[kindred ivy]

now i am a tryhard

[vast yew]

Most people find Blaze trickier due to longer charge time

[kindred ivy]

from a shit biuld to a tryhard

[feral verge]

it's just a different variant of trauma

[kindred ivy]

holy shit

[echo island]

Maus how do you deal with gunner skirmishes? Surely you dont just spam revolver and eat up all the ammos?

[kindred ivy]

[lethal lagoon]

No one ever said revolver is shit.

[kindred ivy]

gunners?

[primal tusk]

you're a coolbean to me

[tulip trench]

Can i ask why?.they feel the same in difficulty, and im not seeing any difference on my end. just wondering what makes one better than the other

[kindred ivy]

1 tap each gunner

shooters? EP smite handles all of them

[lethal lagoon]

We've all used that shit since patch 13 and got bored of it.

[kindred ivy]

u can facetank shooters by quelling also

[echo island]

Outside of smite range, which is not hard to do

[kindred ivy]

get peril, start quelling while walking in their direction

its pretty tanky how much u can tank while quelling

[echo island]

smite requires a target to jump, most of the gunfight you dont have that luxury

[kindred ivy]

vent on them

[vast yew]

"My build doesn't generate much peril"
"Get peril, then walk towards them"

[feral verge]

i prefer brittle because it has more team utility. you are essentially giving you and your team a damage boost

[kindred ivy]

u can generate peril pretty easelly

u have site

smite

[vast yew]

Mr. Maus is being disingenous and y'all keep believing him at his word

[echo island]

Doubt. In dam a single scab guy with a gun will chew through my toughness in a single burst shot

[kindred ivy]

look, then HOW DO I FUKCING KEEP DOING AND HAVING GOOD SCORES?

[kindred ivy]

keep quelling

[vast yew]

post video of gameplay

screenshots mean nothing

[kindred ivy]

I LITERALLY PLAY WITH PPL HERE

[vast yew]

and do these people have videos of your gameplay?

[echo island]

nah I dont doubt Mas does well, but their build is hella clunky

[kindred ivy]

THEY PLAY WITH ME

[vast yew]

I don't doubt he does well either

[kindred ivy]

AND THEY SAY THE BUILD IS GOOD

WHAT THE FUCK DO U WANT

[plucky flax]

I can vouch it's op build.

[vast yew]

For you to turn off caps lock, for one

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

Chaos shush you

[plucky flax]

Just need to pick more plasteels.

[vast yew]

For second, to try and be objective

[tulip trench]

i tested the blaze dmg and it seems really weak against anything other than regular hordes. trauma already insta kills those enemies so blaze seems... redundant? brittle at least helps against bosses/elites

unless im missing something with blaze that makes it OP

[harsh urchin]

with whom do you play

[vast yew]

I've never said your build is bad, I have pointed out its deficiencies

[feral verge]

this is how i feel, pretty much

[vast yew]

Blaze Trauma is usually paired with Shriek to get to 12 stacks quickly

which makes the horde clear much faster and kills off ragers

[untold widget]

god this build is trash

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma so bad pls buff

[vast yew]

the main thing with Blaze is the AoE to light things on fire is 8.4m radius circle

[kindred ivy]

@gentle otter , @autumn gulch @frozen fiber they wall saw it (also there is also 1+ dude who saw it in action)

fucking hell i haev to ping the

wiht the 2 fist ones i did hardmode twins

[vast yew]

so it lights entire zip codes on fire at the same time

[harsh urchin]

who are these ppl

lololol

[tulip trench]

ive been using it with shriek, i guess you need to run warp charges to really get the most outta it? ive been using EP BB

[kindred ivy]

with my biuld

simon i played aurid dam HISTG

[vast yew]

yeah WS

[kindred ivy]

u can shoot the fucking shooters

u can a revolver

it makes mad supression

you can shoot them

[plucky flax]

You can watch some of my vids to get idea on how to play it.

[kindred ivy]

its not that hard

shoot people on a shooting game

gosh dark impossible to figure out

lmao

if u have any vet with survivalist ammo is infinite anyway

[naive sonnet]

https://tenor.com/view/alex-jones-tantrum-butthurt-rampage-angry-gif-13615981

[kindred ivy]

litearlly me

[naive sonnet]

this is all i'm seeing

lmao

[tulip trench]

ok so mainly for the fact that auric has just such insane mob density blaze helps with breathing room for the team.
brittle, while still insta-killing everything in its aoe marker, doesnt clear density as well, but helps kill carapace/bosses faster
?

[kindred ivy]

me when the enemy dies when i shoot at them

or when i vent at them

[vast yew]

that's the gist; if you want to see Chaos doing absurd damage numbers: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

[kindred ivy]

am not saying other builds are shit, but u guys clearlly a missing on some very veyr powerfull shit

[vast yew]

the Trauma knocks elites to the ground, so brittling them matters less

they're on the ground, they're dead in a few seconds anyways

Blaze helps take care of hordes while you focus on the mean things

Brittle still good, but Blaze outpaces it IMO

[tulip trench]

ok that makes more sense, where as if i go brittleness im fine to take EP instead of WS, but if i go blaze i want WS.

[tulip trench]

Faaaair

[feral verge]

i think ascendant blaze is doing most of the work

not blaze trauma

not saying blaze trauma isnt doing work, cuz clearly it can put some in

[vast yew]

Blaze gets things to 6 stacks, shriek takes them to 12, and soulblaze damage is a sigmoid function

[kindred ivy]

500K overkill

[vast yew]

6 stacks deals ~36 damage per tick, 12 stacks deals ~140

[glossy ember]

me when nobody wants to play surge staff with scrier

[kindred ivy]

i did for a while

its hilarious

[vast yew]

Shriek does the lifting to take it up to big damage numbers, but Blaze Trauma starts teh fire

[glossy ember]

based

[feral verge]

to get the best of both worlds, i think i'd run brittle trauma + ascendant blaze

[long stone]

Based

[vast yew]

Also by Ascendant Blaze I'm assuming you mean In Fire Reborn?

or is that Wildfire

[feral verge]

no

[vast yew]

don't remember old talent names

[feral verge]

AB is the old term for the fire shriek vent

[vast yew]

ah Creeping Flames

[olive ember]

finally he's out of his surge staff arc

[primal tusk]

"i dont like em putting chemicals in the water to make the fricken poxxers green "

[kindred ivy]

wait

its 140 per tic

or dps?

[vast yew]

it ticks once per second so it doesn't matter

[kindred ivy]

it tiks 0.75

afairk

someone here said it

[vast yew]

if that's the case then once per tick

also 140 was a generalization, the real number is slightly different

[primal tusk]

anyway one more level and then i can unlock the fan firing revolver and then i am the rootinest tootinest psyker around

[vast yew]

rule of thumb is dots do stacks squared damage up to ~15

[kindred ivy]

186 dps then

[vast yew]

but the real number is a sigmoid function and I can't do that in my head

[olive ember]

soulblaze ticks every 0.75, burn ticks every 0.5

[vast yew]

[kindred ivy]

huh (125 +186) *1.1 (10% from that 1 talen taht increases smited enemy dmg) -> 342 so its 342 dps with 2 elites dead + EP smite + shriek

thas pretty fucking nice

lmao

[vast yew]

should note that PC has a fairly small radius

usually useful for clearing extra elites

[vast yew]

less so for burning hordes

[olive ember]

Idk if its still up to date but

[kindred ivy]

doesnt matter from pethetic dmg it went to 342 dps

[vast yew]

I know it's not because 6 stacks deals over 30 damage and that graph has it below 30

[olive ember]

I think it is actually, just that you then have to apply the armor value multiplier to them

[vast yew]

342 dps of which over half is Soulblaze, to be fair

[kindred ivy]

yeah

[vast yew]

stay objective here

[kindred ivy]

sitll

[echo island]

The problem with smite+PC is that most of the hordes already died before the elite, so when then elites finally die and CP triggers its fking pointless

[kindred ivy]

u kill elites before

revorve

and combo into other elites

[vast yew]

PC doesn't trigger if elites die to Soublaze btw

[kindred ivy]

dying alongside eveyrthing

[echo island]

So in theory PC is actually kinda more of a buff to the revolver

[vast yew]

part of balancing

[olive ember]

also @plucky flax what is that UI

holy shit

[vast yew]

PC is low-key kind of insane

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

kill 3 ragers and the rest of the Rager wave will die to soulblaze

[olive ember]

his fucking warp charges

[echo island]

uhm then that makes it even clunkier

[olive ember]

holy fucking shit

that warp charge indicator

[vast yew]

wait til you hear his sniper spawn sound

and realize he doesn't have music turned on

then you'll want to burn him like the rest of us

[plucky flax]

What's wrong with them I like it.

[olive ember]

i thought @spice veldt had a meme UI

[plucky flax]

Nice and big.

[kindred ivy]

500k overkill

[olive ember]

what is this

[kindred ivy]

is hilarious

[vast yew]

no soundtrack is blanket heresy in the face of Archcomposer Jesper Kyd

[plucky flax]

I'm built different.

[kindred ivy]

built wrongly

its sitll different

[plucky flax]

[kindred ivy]

[olive ember]

also I just watched you blow yourself up in your vid lol

[vast yew]

top 1% Psyker everyone

(/s wub you Chaos)

[echo island]

For Maus' build, I dont think factoring in the Soulblaze damage is fair cuz Most of the time you'll prob kill hordes without it
So maybe we can forget about Soulblaze altogether, and just put points elsewhere?

[tulip trench]

These my traumas rn

[vast yew]

those some pretty nice Traumas

[tulip trench]

🙂

[kindred ivy]

see like: everyone know about those traumas right? its not exatcly hidden science. i come here with a very funky shit that works and i get hated 😔

[glossy ember]

still bald huh

[vast yew]

ideally you'd want higher charge rate on the Blaze (since no Flurry) but until you get a literal god roll that's the best your'e gonna get

[tulip trench]

pree happy with my ds4 too

[vast yew]

gimme your DS4

[kindred ivy]

you'll kill with, u can more less guarantee 1/2 elite kills + shriek

[vast yew]

[kindred ivy]

elite kills means EP

so so on

[vast yew]

also I presume the Carapace is just for twins

[echo island]

nobody here hates u, we're discussing the viability of your build

[vast yew]

and normally it's maniacs?

[echo island]

The entire "I SMITE EVERYDAY" is cringe tho

[vast yew]

wait wait, where's the #zealot-class copypasta

[echo island]

no comment on that

[olive ember]

I hate you @plucky flax

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=21QTPqVRkiA

[long stone]

End of the day if you’re good enough you can make anything work

[olive ember]

how could you do this to me

[kindred ivy]

[frozen fiber]

tried the smite build, it works, im more of a cut thing in half with a chain sword, but i like it

[tulip trench]

i find i struggle with Mauler/Crusher hordes more than muties
so its to kill them when they get too close

[kindred ivy]

i play pokemon go every day

i play pokemon go

[vast yew]

wait I found the copypasta

All I did was post my fucking build and y’all went for my throat talking down on it like a bunch of toxic trolls you didn’t have to say anything if u don’t have anything nice to say then don’t say anything but naw y’all wanna be animals like every other troll and thru the safety of the internet you run your mouth and then talk smack about me it’s ridiculous and not fair of anyone to treat some one like that and u have the audacity to say I’m going thru somthing nah you and all the other trolls like you need to get over what your going thru and act right

[kindred ivy]

look, it clears auric damnations fine. maestorms fine

and safelly.

[olive ember]

a classic

[kindred ivy]

the thing is i def responded on level instead of bitchin

[olive ember]

man all the funny surge staff copypastas are outdated now

[kindred ivy]

its viable and consistent

[vast yew]

I made fun of a guy's joke in #zealot-class , he got mad at me, I threw the copypasta at him (changing "build" to "joke") and he blocked me

[plucky flax]

It's tru

[olive ember]

surge staff is worse

[plucky flax]

[olive ember]

you will never get me to change my mind

smh

[vast yew]

Surge staff lets you be a Sith Lord

checkmate

[kindred ivy]

surge is fun

[olive ember]

smite exists tho

[green sphinx]

just got a 380 dueling sword with uncanny 4, helllll yeah

[kindred ivy]

most shit in this game is viable

[tulip trench]

Is PC worth using with Blaze Trauma? feel like i dont kill elites so much as toss them around

[olive ember]

well yeah

the only thing thats not viable rn is like

[vast yew]

post screenshot so we can all oooh and ahhh

[olive ember]

maybe the tacaxe

[echo island]

Maybe they can change surge primary into something unique
Then maybe it'll have a niche idk

[olive ember]

even the chaxes got a glow up recently

[kindred ivy]

[vast yew]

realtalk Surge has a normal left click and Purg doensn't, which is the only reason I rate it higher

Surge can deal with shooters, Purg has some (small) issues with them

[echo island]

purge left click is very spammable tho

Its fucking braindead, but it kind does ok in cc-ing everything around u

[vast yew]

it is, and it stuns Ragers/Maulers, but Surge can deal with everything that isn't a horde while Purg can deal with everything that isnt' a Crusher or ranged, which also comes into play with specialists

hence, Surge gets rated slightly higher IMO

both are good

and anyone flaming you for running Purg is dumb

The only actual bad Psyker builds are ones that run, like, Taxe Mk7 and Recon Lasgun

with Shriek and BB

[ionic needle]

hahaha, god damn, playing with this zealot and I went down due to dog + burster + fire combo and when I'm spectating him he goes up to the corpse of a bomber to t-bag him

[kindred ivy]

have fun

[echo island]

I was fooled into thinking recon was good once

[ionic needle]

absolute genious

[vast yew]

it was, once

[kindred ivy]

for psycher?

or in general

[vast yew]

then Fatshark noticed and slammed it into the ground

[kindred ivy]

i thought infernus accatran was still decent

[echo island]

When I was new some mf here said Infernus is godlike and Recon is the best way to build up that stack

[vast yew]

Infernus Accatran has less DPS than a 0% Damage Columnus

it's sad

[echo island]

and lvl 12 vet me believed that shit

[kindred ivy]

which accatan

[vast yew]

any of them

[kindred ivy]

🤔

[echo island]

still has a 380 based rating recon orange in my stash

[vast yew]

80% damage Accatran: 62.5 damage
0% Damage Columnus: 75 damage

Fatshark why

[kindred ivy]

burn

the burns

[echo island]

first gun I ever brought to orange

[kindred ivy]

add in the BOORNS

[vast yew]

the burns help vs. Monsters but not vs. anything else

[kindred ivy]

and spread tem around

[vast yew]

and that's a 0% Damage Columnus

[kindred ivy]

o just spread them

[vast yew]

80% Damage Columnus deals a lot more damage

[kindred ivy]

u can get burns into 1 enemy -> then another

and ifnish it off

[vast yew]

burns don't spread they just do soulblaze but worse

[kindred ivy]

they do dmg

so u can stack burns into loads of elites

[vast yew]

not to anything that matters

[kindred ivy]

and let them melt

[echo island]

nah go in the meatgrinder and look at the actual burn damage

[vast yew]

by the time you get 3 crits to get to a decent number of stacks the enemy is dead

[echo island]

could prob count it with ur fingers

[kindred ivy]

again, is it the 1second instakill shit, no, but its fine

[vast yew]

and the Columnus still out-dps's because True Aim is a fair talent

[kindred ivy]

i dot know why yall go for the "sorry took moer than CURRENT_OP_STUFF so its basically dogshit and useless on anything"

[vast yew]

hee-hee funny 100% crit rate vs. bosses before the burn can really start ticking

[kindred ivy]

nah bruh

[vast yew]

Do not strawman me sir

[echo island]

Yo I dont run column with my soyker, post good Column so I know what to go for

[vast yew]

I'm the biggest proponent of mid builds here

Recon lasgun has problems

[kindred ivy]

oh yeah

but like

its still doable

i had no problem clearing dam with it

[vast yew]

the biggest problem it runs into is you eat the ammo even harder than a Columnus build

[echo island]

I like to invest in builds with potential. So when next patch hit that shit can hit S-tier or go straight in the garbo

[vast yew]

and Columnus builds already get yelled at

[kindred ivy]

shock troop?

[umbral helm]

acknowledgement of something being bad is still important, even if you make it work. because you need to understand that to make it work, because that means you know what you're doing.

[vast yew]

in general it takes longer/more ammo to kill things than a columnus, so it needs more ammo to function
having a vet with ammo aura helps a lot

[echo island]

If I activate Scriers I can grab the ammo before the Vet can

[vast yew]

but if you don't have one of those the Ogryn gonna be mad at you when you've picked up 3 large ammos before the first event

[pale forum]

so i started Darktide since is on gamepass and i play as psyker what is better that cristal shards you throw or bio lighting ?

[kindred ivy]

i love survivalist

[vast yew]

Assail is insanely overpowered early levels

[primal tusk]

ahum

[kindred ivy]

but yeah shork troop is gud

[primal tusk]

FOR THE LEX ATOMA

[kindred ivy]

headtaker + crit change on weapon and talents + deadshot + infernus

u can save up´a LOT OF AMMO

[vast yew]

But in general which smite you want to run will depend on what the rest of your build is doing

[kindred ivy]

especially if 1 crit -> 4 crit shots in a row

[echo island]

No, just no

[kindred ivy]

its so much fun

you dont use ammo

and like

shoot 300 bullets

u also have no stmaina

stamina

[pale forum]

level 16 right now

[kindred ivy]

but like

detail

[vast yew]

which Psyker melee are you using Headtaker on, pray tell

[echo island]

"You dont use ammo". 🤔 What channel we in

[kindred ivy]

i mean we were talking in general

[vast yew]

No I was talking Gunker

[kindred ivy]

OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

i thought in general

[vast yew]

Vet can make Recon work, though it's subpar

Psyker Recon is just... no lol

[kindred ivy]

its histerically fun

[vast yew]

oh it's great fun

[kindred ivy]

shooting infinite bullets as a vet

its weird cause here we dont discuss ammo efficiency much

but like, agrip MK1 does insane dmg compared to graia, but lower ammo ad fucking unstable as FUCK (evne at hihg stability). made me stop using it all toguether

[winter magnet]

which of these would you use and why?

[vast yew]

The only Gunker build where you can quickly run into ammo troubles is the Columnus, but that's why you usually have Assail for the smaller groups

[kindred ivy]

its soo pretty in the test changer, bvut ergh , in game not well

[primal tusk]

as Veteran i got all the ammo regen and ammo capacity things and even then i am using very ammo efficient guns

[echo island]

1st one

[winter magnet]

what's the reasoning?

[echo island]

better overall stats, better perks

[vast yew]

#2 but I'd see how bad the quell speed is first

[kindred ivy]

aparently elite dmg is dogshit

i dont nkow why

[vast yew]

elites/flaks has some interesting breakpoints

ask @glossy ember

[orchid nest]

first one, easily. charge rate doesn't even scale it that much on surge. probably like a 30ms difference between the two

[vast yew]

... actually subhuman is right

[echo island]

its not dogshit its just worse than plain 25 against flak/maniacs

[kindred ivy]

30ms difference for a kill?

[vast yew]

first one, you can change the perks if you ever feel the need

[kindred ivy]

yeah thats basically uesless

please neve rpost such ridiculosness here

[orchid nest]

charge rate difference

[echo island]

but yeah as Delta said, you can hit some breakpoints if you you go like 25 flak/ 10 elite

[kindred ivy]

i was making funny

its gud

[winter magnet]

so youre thinking maybe swap maniacs to elites on the 1st one and roll with that?

[echo island]

nah

[vast yew]

try both, Elites/Flak has some unique requirements

like an extra 5% damage from somewhere and Warp Rider

[primal tusk]

i am now the rootinest tootinest cowboy around

[echo island]

Woudlnt say that, but if someone post that breakpoint chart, and make sure you can hit it

then mayyybe

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/doggo-big-iron-gif-19017452

[vast yew]

last time booden was here he showed off videos where, with 5 stacks of Perfect Timing, you could 2-shot Dreg Ragers at 0% Peril if the damage rolls weren't baed

and 2-shot Maulers starting at ~40% Peril

[kindred ivy]

thats pretty nice

[primal tusk]

is it suboptimal if barely functional? yeah, but it fun

[vast yew]

also need 6 warp siphon stacks

[echo island]

Thats some crazy number, Ill have to see it to believe it

[kindred ivy]

revolver is insane weapon

u'll do ifne

[vast yew]

but PT and WS are free if you just play the game so

[primal tusk]

the fan firing one

[kindred ivy]

as long as u can kill trash mobs

ervolver is fine weamon

[vast yew]

lemme see if I can dig it up

[primal tusk]

am using sword for trash mobs

[kindred ivy]

then ur fine!

[vast yew]

will say Booden is a little quirky

runs Gaze and WS

but you didn't need crits

[kindred ivy]

now i have a cringe name

[vast yew]

#psyker-class message

#psyker-class message

@echo island

[echo island]

That does not even look real, the fuck?

[vast yew]

Yeah his staff is only 77% damage too

Pygex saw it and after looking at the vids added a blurb about it to the Atheneum

if you can make it work it's lowkey great

I personally have to run the Elites Aura to hit the breakpoints but not too big a loss

[echo island]

nah thats wild

Wait you can animation cancel the surge staff rmb?

[vast yew]

yeah by switching weapons

[echo island]

I am but a child

[kindred ivy]

that's tryhard

[vast yew]

switching to blitz is fastest but requires starcraft apm

I don't do it often because it's not really worth it

but it's fun if a vet keeps trying to snipe your kills

[olive ember]

QQ cancel tech

[echo island]

explain

[kindred ivy]

like that fucking guy run, block, sliding to preserve stamina

[olive ember]

Let go of rmb and press QQ and the damage comes out quicker

[kindred ivy]

that looks so cringe

[olive ember]

I don’t do it that much but

[vast yew]

Q is the default key to swap weapons

[kindred ivy]

just press W bro

[vast yew]

in this case it's actually blitzswap, because he's swapping to blitz and back again

but QQ swap is an old Vermintide technique to attack faster with certain melee weapons

[kindred ivy]

also unfathomably cringe

VT2 was a bit bullsiht on some things tho, so understandable

like how it would not thing tice before launching 15 bestigors into 1 player

[untold widget]

i bound crouch and dodge to spacebar and just hold W and press spacebar

[echo island]

animation cancel tech has always been a big part of games like this, wdym

[kindred ivy]

thats cringe

lmao

[vast yew]

sliding while quelling is standard though

like slide-reloading as vet

keeps you mobile

and makes Mind in Motion kind of a dead talent

[severe laurel]

Just a random question, does Surge staff have enhanced critical rates?

[kindred ivy]

one ting is reloading and dashing

[echo island]

nah but I really like that Vraks scrier Gunsker build, gon go back to try and perfect it

[kindred ivy]

another is constatnly donig that to run maginaly longer

[vast yew]

yes; press V to inspect weapon, then hover over "Critical Bonus"

[untold widget]

its like 4x as long

and faster than standard running

[vast yew]

On DS4 it's infinite

[kindred ivy]

[vast yew]

you regen 3% stamina per slide if you do it perfectly

[severe laurel]

Yeah, but it says Melee critical chance, everything else is damage

[vast yew]

ah, well you see: Fatshark is stupid sometimes

the crit chance applies to the ranged attacks

[severe laurel]

Ah okay, cool

[vast yew]

same for the Revolver

[kindred ivy]

and people fucking called me a min maxer

[olive ember]

I don't do it that often but yeah

[severe laurel]

So crit talents like Mettle and Perfect Timing are good for Surge

[untold widget]

nobody called you a min maxer

maybe a max miner

[vast yew]

Mettle and Perfect Timing are good on every build except old Revolver and Rending/Flurry Trauma

every other Psyker build crits for days

[kindred ivy]

sorry u too about 2 seconds to come pu with that

which is about 1 second too much

os its basically useless that joke

[vast yew]

the caps lock maybe signals he's a max minor

[olive ember]

Eh I don't have enough points for mettle and perfect timing

[untold widget]

oh he's for sure a child

[kindred ivy]

[severe laurel]

Cool, thanks

[kindred ivy]

am 22

[vast yew]

I can try and help you find some if you want

[severe laurel]

Just trying to work out a Surge build

[kindred ivy]

CS student

[vast yew]

ah CS student expains it, they're assholes

source: have a bachelors in CS

[kindred ivy]

[vast yew]

Surge normally gets paired with Smite or Assail; both dome and shriek work, go Warp Siphon if you can, EP if you can't

[lethal lagoon]

Isn't 22 year old CS student 5th year, or is my old man memory fading?

[olive ember]

I know what points I would be getting rid of lol

but

[hasty spear]

what are the blessings wanted for a mk iv dueling?

[untold widget]

not if you were held back in high school //s

[kindred ivy]

not if u were trying to do uni while corona started

[olive ember]

uncanny + shred iirc

[vast yew]

okay you don't need Wildfire on a Surge staff build

[olive ember]

tho anything works as long as you have uncanny

[olive ember]

oh this is for my blaze trauma

[lethal lagoon]

Oh god that must have been awful, now they have all this fake A.I cheating shit