psyker-class

[plucky flax]

But slaughterer headtaker are two very good blessings.

[vestal fulcrum]

You can bamboozle ragers/maulers/bulwarks easily with it

[vestal fulcrum]

You win some, you lose some. HT + Slaughterer certainly do help with the below average swarm clear capability of chaxe 4

But Bloodletter is still very good

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[plucky flax]

I put flak and carapace on this chainaxe.

Armoured enemies where?

[vestal fulcrum]

I use Maniac and Unyielding, although there is probably an argument to be made about capitalising on the inherent ADM v Flak and Carapace from Penetration modifier

It’s obscene

It’s like 180% dmg against Flak on high Penetration

[plucky flax]

I tested it and I can 1 shot mutie with rev.

So no need for maniac anymore.

Unyielding is a good shout too I would run it with bleed but I go double power blessings.

[lusty apex]

i keep the maniacs and the uncanny right?

what do i get on this thing tho?

[wraith talon]

i think so

[vestal fulcrum]

That sounds about right. You can leave or upgrade Rampage, if you want to have some means of swarm clearing on the Mk4

As for the perk, IIRC some folks recommended either Unyielding for better monster damage, or Carapace for a breakpoint against Crushers/Maulers on stacked Uncanny

[lusty apex]

hmmm i do like poking crushers in the face

does a spurprising amount of damage

[vestal fulcrum]

See what works for you. Also do test breakpoints for this particular sword in case you want to specialise in something - I’d generally consider advice from myself with a grain of salt

If you want to replace Rampage, I’d consider taking either Shred or Riposte

[plucky flax]

Carapace is also really good against twins.

Since their heads are carapace.

[quartz barn]

Replace rampage by shred

Its also a lot stronger if you heavy into special

[quasi junco]

Wanna be maulers

[plucky flax]

Mauler with plasma and mauler with anime sword moves.

[finite isle]

How good is critical chance if you don't go scriers gaze / assail? I have a smite staff that currently reliably 4 shots or less any non boss with a pseudo crit build that gets 25-40% crit chance (warp nexus). But idk if it's actually good.

[quasi junco]

Crit % is great on surge and void staves

[vestal fulcrum]

tfw Trauma wasn't mentioned

Each staff can use crit well, though

Voidstrike is one example that doesn't have to rely on crits directly to benefit from it (because it can just use True Aim, but that's not to say that Nexus is not a good blessing on it - on quite the contrary, it is).

[finite isle]

Also could I change this to be better? I personally really like it but I don't actually know what's good yet.

[stuck shoal]

wouldn't deflector be preferable seeing as you have the block efficiency bonus?

[finite isle]

I don't have a lot of blessings so I don't actually know what that does. :() wot do it do?

[unkempt light]

It lets you block gunfire with the Force Sword block.

But even at Deflector Lvl 4, that's only a couple seconds of sustained gunfire

[vestal fulcrum]

I went back to Flurry/Nexus Void. I also noticed that I don't have Nexus 4 unlocked

[finite isle]

I don't usually have problems with guns though since I currently main smite bubble.

[spice veldt]

you can comfortably extend the duration of deflector by spamming dodges, and deflector just covers the intervals between your i-frames

[stuck shoal]

unless you have the talent that lets you block using peril, then you can even tank bosses for a while and also crusher overheads

works even better if you run shriek

[vestal fulcrum]

IDK why would you prefer Crit damage over any other perk, but I’d start with changing that

[stuck shoal]

i would do elite damage probably or maybe unyielding if you wanna use that as anti boss but meh

[finite isle]

Oh ye, i was wondering if there was a way to survive mauler / crusher attacks it seems like no matter how much block efficiency I have as well as the peril blocking perk. I just get one shot anyways. Not that I can really test this to be sure.

I didn't know what to throw on there so I just defaulted to crit dmg for synergy.

[stuck shoal]

you can block one crusher overhead with peril block.

[spice veldt]

they're block bypass attacks yeah

[vestal fulcrum]

Crusher/Mauler overhead attacks have a property that literally ignores block

[spice veldt]

no, you can never ever block crusher overheads unless you're a shield ogryn

[stuck shoal]

but it's better to just try staggering them with F if you have vent shriek and you're in a bad situation

[spice veldt]

they will bypass your block completely

the only weapon that can block block-bypass attacks is ogryn's shield

[stuck shoal]

I've blocked them at least twice

[lunar hollow]

we stay winning

[spice veldt]

you are misremembering then

[stuck shoal]

hm

[unkempt light]

Oh, even with Kinetic Deflection

But that's on Auric Damn where you might have half a dozen Dreg Gunners as your firing squad

[stuck shoal]

WELL it is still good against bosses

[spice veldt]

death

[stuck shoal]

kinetic deflection is fun

[vestal fulcrum]

Maniac is good - you should be able to reach a 1-hit WS kill potential on Mutants easily, with warp charges from Warp Siphon or Warp Rider with some peril

[finite isle]

Ye I can one shot (with stored crit) any non mauler / ogryn enemy. Without the stored crit I two shot ragers.

Ty

With special into lights

[vestal fulcrum]

What I’m insinuating is that you can kill charging mutants with a one tap of H2 to their forehead

No action break for channeling the special attack, no nothing

Just H2 to the head

God I really need to start recording my gameplay, so I can show these things in practical situations

[patent wing]

its a shame that psyker has no boss killer setup

[vestal fulcrum]

Well, no, but fortunately, they have other things

[finite isle]

I straight up don't know if I'm good enough to time that consistently but that's nice to know. I usually just smited / dodged them and it seemed reliable / easy like that.

[vestal fulcrum]

You do you. I prefer just killing things - there’s no need to stop a mutant or two with smite and not deal damage, if you can just hit them with a nail on their foreheads

[wraith talon]

exactly

pop a quick heavy with DS4 and watch them crumble

[burnt sluice]

i dont get why people hate on brain burst

[iron goblet]

i mean, single target vs pew pew

[wraith talon]

it’s just kinda underwhelming ngl

p sure assail does high dps and smite is way better for crowd control

[burnt sluice]

yea but 10% to bb random mob

[wraith talon]

90% of the time it does it on a random horde enemy

making it useless

[burnt sluice]

i think it cool tho

[wraith talon]

true that

[burnt sluice]

big funny dam

[wraith talon]

It’s iinda fun making them burst like a grape

[quasi junco]

I use crit on staff, DD, nexus, (surge) , crit aura and crit % node on my voidstrike.

I am the Oprah Winfrey of crits

[spice veldt]

i certainly hate bb quite a bit especially having been stuck with it until patch 13

[quasi junco]

It’s great with purg staff

[wind mango]

rate my psyker pistol

melk was like : yo fuck dem staffs, and got me this.

[quasi junco]

lol damn, make a scriers boss melting build

[plucky flax]

Not 80% stopping power

[frigid zenith]

drop one of those for infernus probably?

[shy prairie]

[potent echo]

oh yea

the speed stim still slows down psyker charging

fatshark pls

[vast yew]

This is just a good life lesson to not give the crazy homeless man who can open coffee tins with his brain psychoactive drugs

[shy prairie]

psyker GMG with trauma and celerity

everything explodes

[devout robin]

my fucking god

gun psyker cooks

[flint plover]

does a voidstrike need surge on it to be viable?

[vast yew]

viable no, optimal yes

Nexus/Flurry works but you will definitely notice when you get a Surge one up and running

[shy prairie]

the double donk

[flint plover]

does surge work on both attacks?

or just m1

[vast yew]

it sure does

[devout robin]

both attacks also crit

[vast yew]

get 5 stacks of True-aim and ~80% Peril then watch as a full-charge obliterates a Crusher

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-gif-8911363

the crusher being atomized:

[plucky flax]

I did khorn proud. 1 mil (xd) damage with chainaxe. 700+ hp damage taken no healing station used.

[vast yew]

It's at the point where I'm not even sure wtf to run as a second perk on my Voidstrike

[shy prairie]

post

[vast yew]

everything already dies

[vast yew]

Fake Psyker post detected

[plucky flax]

[devout robin]

if you fire into a crowd you could hit 5 heads and then surge again

[flint plover]

any tips on getting Surge? damn thing is rare af

[devout robin]

it's good fun

[shy prairie]

randomly get it given to you by the emprah

[vast yew]

pray to Hadron

[devout robin]

1. accept reality in which you will need to farm plasteel at shit like damnation
2. check melk every day
3. pull at like 350 from brunt's on both shops and then pray

[flint plover]

here I go upgrading greens and purples again

[vast yew]

I finally got a good Columnus roll and I'm too scared to play it lol

too scared I'll just eat all the ammo

I will becomes that which I hate

[plucky flax]

It's very efficient with an ammo vet on the team.

Also with assail.

[vast yew]

but the damage numbers

they're so high

the gun calls to me

[plucky flax]

2 chainaxes in 1 team.

[shy prairie]

SKULLS FOR THE SKULL THRONE

https://tenor.com/view/khorne-gif-27048064

[frigid zenith]

chainaxe fucking ssllaayyssss

I started using the mk8bag over the mk5iag though.

[vast yew]

The Zealots have invaded #psyker-class

Hide Siblings they'll drag us all the the black ships

https://tenor.com/view/run-running-running-away-gif-26050950

[shy prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/829907757238845501/1161669462131486782/uni_fnaf.gif?ex=653923fe&is=6526aefe&hm=c3b03668b4ae7de1e20742c6b0bdbec60b386058d4bc87e0a5008b05a8c3e2a0&

[lime creek]

is it just me or is devil claw sword underrated

[frigid zenith]

mk4 DC is awesome.

It's TTK is a bit slower than some other options though.

[vast yew]

Devil Claw is a good weapon, it just loses in comparison to the top-tier Psyker stuff

but if you love it, use it

[frigid zenith]

But with the ripost your survivability is really good.

[lime creek]

what is top tier

[vast yew]

Duelling Sword 4, Deimos Force Sword, Illisi Force Sword

Dagger Mk6 if you want to zoom zoom

[frigid zenith]

mk4ds is gonna be your go to ultra meta poke poke stick.

[vast yew]

Then there's the all-class weapons, which are all pretty good, some better than others but almost all of them usable

and then down below them you have the Tactical Axe

which isn't bad per se, but it's completely outclassed by Dueling Swords on the Psyker

[lime creek]

U mena I love that I can just parry ragers

I mean*

[flint plover]

i remember the days where a BM TAxe was all the rage

[plucky flax]

The columbus is just too good right now.

Can spray left click close range, or ads for mid.

[frigid zenith]

Yes sir, you can kill shit super fast.

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, some weapons just do what we want to do or handle certain types of enemies well for us.

[frigid zenith]

I found myself on AMs wanting to be able to hit specials and elites in those mixed hordes though. Sometimes you get stuck chewing through other mobs before you can kill those with the mk5iag. mk8bag doesn't have that issue.

It's trading TTK for cleave basically.

[fresh reef]

the only 550 in my possession
I love this thing

[frigid zenith]

The cleave is pretty nuts though so generally my damage is higher.

[hot zephyr]

DS4 is only our class-specific melee, and it just does specific things other weapons cannot

[bleak tulip]

stamina

[vast yew]

+2 Stamina Perk
A unique choice

[bleak tulip]

get a load of this guy

[fresh reef]

I run stamina on all my melees so I can have a curio slot for toughness

[bleak tulip]

wasting a curio on it would be worse, but why even get any stam

you have kin deflect

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah braced auto has more cleave for sure.

Or used graia/columbus braced for memes.

[fresh reef]

I can sprint more

[bleak tulip]

you have instant stam regen

just slide bro

[frigid zenith]

The mk5iag in AMs with all the muties is hilarious though. I generally get people asking me how I'm killing the muties so fast.

[cobalt bone]

I Like stamina so i can blockpush more

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah especially with vet during volley fire or psyker during gaze.

[fresh reef]

real talk though it's mainly an aesthetic thing

[plucky flax]

Brrrrrrrrrrrr ded muties.

[bleak tulip]

again, instant stam regen, you only need 1% to bloch push

[vast yew]

IMO running a +3 Stamina Curio is a lot better than running +2 Stam on a weapon, if you're going to buff stamina
It applies to all your weapons, including Blitz
It preserves the killing power of your weapon (no need to give up breakpoints)
You get +3 instead of +2

[fresh reef]

my brain hates looking at just two stamina bars

[bleak tulip]

well thats the kind of unreasonable I cant argue with, carry on

just... dont bring stam

[icy wyvern]

we're psykers, our brain always hurts

[bleak tulip]

psyker literally does not need it

[plucky flax]

Tru Idk why pygex suggest it.

He's a good player but just take kd. Xd

[bleak tulip]

we have instant regen, and kinetic deflect so you always have 1% to do things

[vast yew]

Psyker doesn't need health if you never get hit

[fresh reef]

"there is no tactical advantage because we have kinetic deflection ☝️ 🤓 "
I think it looks prettier

[vast yew]

IMO you should always be running 1 hp and 1 toughness curio. What you do with the third is up to you.

[icy wyvern]

I'm less of a glass cannon and more of that fly that you can never pin down long enough to smack

[frigid zenith]

I really haven't run anything on my psyker as of late excpet for a melee build with a revolver lol.

[plucky flax]

Help I am having too much fun on chainaxe.

I am betraying my combat axe.

[frigid zenith]

Poking things in the face is too much fun.

[fresh reef]

plus, when I run stamina I can do something that the less strong willed of my siblings cannot

[icy wyvern]

no no no no no you cant run anything other than ds4 its not meta!!!!1!!1!

[bleak tulip]

https://streamable.com/aoy9co old video but it gets across how stupidly good our stam regen is

[vast yew]

DS4 does bring back flashbacks of Saltzpyre Rapier

[frigid zenith]

Caxe with headtaker and BM is just amazing.

[fresh reef]

cry about it

[bleak tulip]

you can literally stand in a pile of chaff forever

[icy wyvern]

warp charges my beloved

[vast yew]

that random node at the bottom left lol

also left-side EP upgrade

and the EP toughness upgrade

[frigid zenith]

lol

[vast yew]

excellent Cursed build sir

[fresh reef]

+15 toughness node

[shy prairie]

me standing infront of rinda with 60 bcr

[cobalt bone]

Thats extra toughness tho

[frigid zenith]

Fellas, I just toss darts for peril and poke crusher in the face.

It's peak psyker gameplay at this point.

[fresh reef]

better for spamming

[vast yew]

You when you find out the BCR from Deflection doesn't apply to melee attacks

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/nod-cat-hyper-gif-9540792418684483949

[bleak tulip]

jokes on you you had it assigned becasue you know better

[wraith talon]

what do you guys think is the best build for teins

I’m thinking smite

[fresh reef]

yeah but I could put it in soulstealer now

[shy prairie]

[fresh reef]

depends on what level of brain off I want to have

[vast yew]

Several people have posted success with a standard Voidstrike build

[icy wyvern]

I still haven't beaten twins hard mode, so I can't really give any build advice

[vast yew]

Voidstrike, Smite, Dome, Warp Siphon

[wraith talon]

VS and assail?

oh

[vast yew]

DS4 melee

[bleak tulip]

why would you ever not just use the most brain off

[wraith talon]

sounds doable

[bleak tulip]

this is a vibes based game

[vast yew]

nah if you're using VS right you never touch your blitz

[plucky flax]

D:

[shy prairie]

did mine with assail (shooter clear), rending trauma (ragers, crushers, maulers) and the ds4

[wraith talon]

dayum

[plucky flax]

I use assail way more than I use void. Xd

[wraith talon]

same

[frigid zenith]

What's good on a psyker in twins hardmode is totally based on the player.

[icy wyvern]

based indeed

[frigid zenith]

Play whatever you can apply damage with and not get gangbanged by hordes of ragers.

[shy prairie]

being able to reach out across the arena and shit 40% brittleness on a twin or a crusher is valuable

[plucky flax]

Maybe my playstyle is just scuffed.

[wraith talon]

that’s my secret, I’m always getting gangbanged by them

[plucky flax]

Top 1% are built different.

[wraith talon]

true that

[shy prairie]

also you can just stand infront of a door and bodyblock an entire wave of 20 shooters, atomizing them with the trauma

[fresh reef]

time for pub AM

[wraith talon]

why use trauma over VS tho

[icy wyvern]

I'm trying to run blaze trauma/smite/shriek

[frigid zenith]

Im for sure bottom 1%. Fucking meleeing shit over here.

[shy prairie]

because I've used trauma since Beta I'm not stopping now

[wraith talon]

same tho

[bleak tulip]

this man is proof that even with scuffed brain you can still get results

[wraith talon]

fair enough

[plucky flax]

Ow why am I getting attacked.

[shy prairie]

plus watching people turn into meat is amusing

[wraith talon]

we’re just built different ❤️

[bleak tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/nontargkil-gif-8979657357046104164

[wraith talon]

ruh roh

[icy wyvern]

Using trauma and watching all of a reaper's limbs go flying off

[frigid zenith]

I love voidstrike but it's just gotten so fucking boreing.

[marble pebble]

Just parry

[vast yew]

Trauma and Voidstrike are both top-tier

[frigid zenith]

Same with trama blaze, it just turns the game into a snoozefest.

[bleak tulip]

[wraith talon]

guys i just got a gift from the emperor

smash or pass

[marble pebble]

Staves are so 2022

[wraith talon]

i keep seeing ppl talk about force swords

[shy prairie]

as for a more mechanical answer, trauma can apply brittleness on heavy, I have one that already does this and it can stagger ragers/crushers/everything

[marble pebble]

Revolvers are the real stuff

[vast yew]

Also: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNa86T4izbo

[wraith talon]

oh that’s actually nice

[shy prairie]

It's 40% so it's no slouch.

[frigid zenith]

Yes brother, gunpsykers are a meme, but I too like memes.

[icy wyvern]

Yeah jury's still out for me in regards of rending shockwave vs blazing spirit

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/memes-thednaofthesoul-memesthednaofthesoul-monsoon-metalgearrising-gif-26431019

[vast yew]

Blaze Traums > Rending Trauma, but harder to build and play

[marble pebble]

I am simple a gunpsyker that loves her revolver

To dome elites

[frigid zenith]

When using a trauma staff with rending. Just ask yourself, "Why don't I just use blaze and kill them?"

[icy wyvern]

britt stacks seem to benefit the team more than burning trash mobs

[frigid zenith]

See, delta gets it.

[plucky flax]

Wtf my ears right at the start

[shy prairie]

BT v. RT is a differentiation in gamemode

[obtuse moth]

for rending on dem twins

[vast yew]

you don't just burn trash mobs, 2 crits = 6 stacks, which kills trash mobs. In a circle over 17m wide.

[frigid zenith]

For sure, if you're team is doing the proper amount of damage already and all they need if CC and debuffs then it's cool.

[shy prairie]

because getting rid of 4/5ths of their added on damage reduction is relevant if you want to do any damage

[icy wyvern]

2 possible crits vs guaranteed britt stacks

[vast yew]

I mean you have a 40% crit chance

you get them

and PC can help when you don't

[frigid zenith]

Wildfire!!!!

bis

[obtuse moth]

you dont need rending to do damage to carapace with psyker kit lol

[vast yew]

Brittle helps but you're chain-staggering Crushers anyways

[shy prairie]

BT is absolutely better for the rest of the game, RT is just very useful in the cauldron

[icy wyvern]

Just because you don't need rending doesn't mean team doesnt

[vast yew]

RT lets you use Flurry which yeah is useful for Hard Mode

[shy prairie]

because the metal gear solid crushers

[vast yew]

since you might not have time to do slower charges

But both should work

[icy wyvern]

as I said, jury's still out on which I like more

[frigid zenith]

They be putting that soft rubber on the soles of their crusher shoes.

[obtuse moth]

in general blazing is much stronger

[icy wyvern]

good thing we're in #psyker-class

god im so funny

[vast yew]

he said god instead of Emperor

off to the black ships with you

heretic

[icy wyvern]

you won't believe this

i was on a black ship, right

[vast yew]

[icy wyvern]

then all the sudden, these guys hop on board and start blowing themselves up?!

[shy prairie]

were you in a cauldron full of tox gas

[icy wyvern]

well anyway now im a hero

[shy prairie]

were you crazy once

[icy wyvern]

🐀

[shy prairie]

did the tox gas make you crazy

[willow hazel]

Is rampage still bugged?

[shy prairie]

🐀

[icy wyvern]

hey does the plasteel yield at the end of twins change depending on diff?

[shy prairie]

there is no plasteel at the end of the secret cauldron

[icy wyvern]

could you, in theory, just speedrun d1 twins, grab the plasteel, and wipe

[shy prairie]

yes.

[icy wyvern]

assuming it's the same amount

[shy prairie]

it's not.

it's 10 plasteel, all for the taking

one single chest

[icy wyvern]

i'm getting a message from my beloved that you're just pulling this out of your ass

[shy prairie]

go test it then

[devout robin]

christ you're something

you get 275 on damnation and need to run the level to get it

tp doesn't get you the plasteel

it's 7 - 8~ minutes if you just wipe without killing the twins

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/misinformation-team-fortress2-tf2-spy-tf2-meet-the-spy-gif-450232384991232733

[icy wyvern]

tp, as if I've finished hard mode

i appreciate the assumption

[devout robin]

but yeah no you cannot get unlimited free plasteel every 2 minutes with the hard mode defeat

[icy wyvern]

Yeah I was talking more about just running it over and over again for quick plasteel, not the teleport

[devout robin]

it's not as efficient as running regular qp damnation but it is sure a lot easier

[icy wyvern]

Wipe less

Less risk

on god if one of you mfs hop in here and say damnation is easy

[vast yew]

Low Intensity Damnation is easy

🤓

[icy wyvern]

ughm aackshually

[vast yew]

I actually find Damnation easier than Heresy just because your teammates are usually better

[devout robin]

^

[vast yew]

but that's a bit of a dice roll

[devout robin]

honestly

even then

people who eat shit in damnation do it immediately

so it is quite easy to just reset if it cascades

[vast yew]

that's fair

[icy wyvern]

yeah I had a better time on legend than I did on champion, once I got good at vt

didn't stop handmaiden mains from running off on their own, dying, and ragequitting

[vast yew]

Lore-accurate Slayer mains jumping into Chaos Patrols is also fun times

[wraith talon]

it’s also harder because im dogshit tho

so it balances

[icy wyvern]

I assume too much on pug dam

It's my fault for assuming that my team would move to the better position away from the daemonhost instead of straight towards it

[devout robin]

i get no-block andies in heresy but most people know how to at least dodge in damnation

[vast yew]

idk about a tenth of the Psykers I run into in either Heresy or Damnation seem to not realized they can Quell

[verbal shore]

did my first 1m damage last night, auryk mael with a ridiculous amount of crushers and maulers. bless the voidstrike staff

[vast yew]

bonus points for running 3-4 wounds because "I blow up too much"

[vast yew]

nice work sibling

that looks like a Scab Melee Mael

those are always fun

[verbal shore]

yeah i think thats what it was, im not good with naming the modifiers yet of the top of my head

[plucky flax]

Damn your team was so good. Everyone did high damage.

39 mins of pain in hab dreyko. I was the only one doing objectives.

[vast yew]

scab melee is easy to recognize because there's 0 ammo pickups, no dreg enemies at all, and a million elites

[plucky flax]

Also 630 plasteels

[obtuse moth]

objectives on the last part of hab dreyko is a lot harder now haha

pugs dont help at all

[plucky flax]

Yeah they all went to turtle in 1 corner.

Killing endless horde of ragers and maulers.

And slowly get whittered down by specials.

[frozen cargo]

lol i thought this was the same game as the one above cuz the name on the zealot

[plucky flax]

Oh haha I think Amelia is a default name like Derlin.

[verbal shore]

oh wow i didnt catch that lol, yeah im pretty sure i got that from character creation

[vast yew]

I named my Zealot Genevieve before I knew it was a name that bots can get

[quartz barn]

Had that in the beta

[vast yew]

bit of regret there but oh well the obese marine predator doesn't let me rename her so

[quartz barn]

Called my char harkon, meanwhile the bot's named harken

[verbal shore]

Genevieve is a great name, i def want renaming though cause my first char (vet) is just named 'tiffster' lol

[plucky flax]

Yeah I want to change name/gender/voice.

[hot zephyr]

They apparently use the character name as part of the unique character identifier, which is why it cannot be changed

It would be quite difficult to fix that

Not impossible of course, but a lot of effort

[wanton sandal]

gender voice and height would be nice to change tho

[vast yew]

as someone who has programmed a fair bit: rookie mistake

if you are scared of running out of CharID #'s then throw their steam ID in there

ta-da problem fixed

[hot zephyr]

Just use a GUID, if you're really scared, use a double-guid.

[silver portal]

best illis perks?

[shy prairie]

so true

[vast yew]

yeah no reason to be throwing in user-input into your IDs

worst case scenario you don't sanitize and OOPS there goes your database

[vast yew]

Flak/Maniac, probably

[silver portal]

what about blessings

[hot zephyr]

3.4x10^38 unique ids is probably fine given they limit to 5 characters per account.

[vast yew]

Slaughterer + User Preference (I like Deflector)

[eager mantle]

First character was my psyker. Just hit the random name and now I wish I had made it custom

[hot zephyr]

I should name an orgyn Bobby Drop Tables and see what happens

[wanton sandal]

never too late to level another character from 1

just have fun rolling decent weapons again

[eager mantle]

If like same class characters shared inventories I would

[hot zephyr]

I do want to roll another character eventually, I think I wanna go zealot or ogryn tho

Something melee-oriented so I can eat glue and smash my keyboard

[vast yew]

I've got one of each and saving the 5th slot for the AdMech character that is very definitely coming

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/mechanicus-techpriest-warhammer-machine-spirit-omnissiah-gif-20384129

https://open.spotify.com/track/2prpS8SkDKez3ssR79eZ12?si=94c29b62f0d54e60

"Steel of body, Steel of mind. [Repeat in patterns of 500]"

[wanton sandal]

gonna bust if (when) the admech comes out

still wonder how they'd implement it

[vast yew]

probably a Skitarii that has Melee/Ranged/weird Techpriest jank as the 3 trees

[wanton sandal]

def gonna be a dlc like vt2, but skitarii? reject tech adept?

hadrons minion?

[vast yew]

would probably have it's own cutscenes

or they just cut them out

since Skitarii on a prison ship would be weird

but then again they also put a Psyker and Ogryn into a normal cell soooo whatever

[shy prairie]

Skitarii are with some frequency fashioned from prisoners

[vast yew]

hmmm, true

[shy prairie]

and they would further be rejects in the same vain as the rest of the cast

i.e. the french psyker is not only a psyker, but also an enforcer surrounded by a cast of people who are prisoners

could easily do something similiar with the skitarii

[vast yew]

Ye

I just want Tesla weapons and a Transuranic Arquebus

[shy prairie]

I want my radium carbine

[hot zephyr]

Rather than a skitarii, I'd suspect they call it like Cybernetic or something. Make it clear they are mechanicall augmented but keep them distance from the ranks of the admech combat forces

[shy prairie]

I want to sacrifice my entire healthpool for damage

[verbal shore]

have they said they are gonna do new chars? i just assumed they were gonna keep it like vermintide

[vast yew]

They haven't said squat

but 5 slots and 4 classes is a bit weird

and given that they added 5 new careers to Vermintide, well, a 5th character type would make logical sense down the line

[shy prairie]

There happens to be more than a few portrait frames bearing "Mechanicus Moribund" or something similar.

[vast yew]

and of the options, AdMech would seem to make the most sense

though they could also do other, weirder stuff like straight-up Xenos, given we've got both the Inquisition and a Rogue Trader around to pull strings and bend regulations

[shy prairie]

Yvraine Eldar

https://tenor.com/view/victor-saltzpyre-saltzpyre-victor-vermintide-2-vermintide-gif-788849408816878042

[vast yew]

or Tau Fire Warrior, Ork Freeboota...

but yeah AdMech would make the most sense for a 5th

[verbal shore]

i hope they add more then, the only other 40k game ive played was tau and not sure if they could be added

[vast yew]

they can add anything as long as GW gives the thumbs up

they threw some curveballs in Vermintide and after a few weeks people mostly stopped complaining

[icy wyvern]

folks, i've noticed a stereotype

desert camo veterans

the closest to call of duty players that we get

[plucky flax]

Low first target

[near radish]

I just started playing this a couple days ago, and this is my current Psyker build. Since the Trauma Force Staff doesn't need ammo, I can just spam bolts like mad (we're all mad here), as long as I don't get a headache. And it lets me hit enemies with it. Also, Force Sword for when I want to get reeeally messy. Her name is Briar, btw.

[icy wyvern]

🙂

charged trauma has really strong horde clear

would not overlook just aiming it at your feet if they get too close

[novel plaza]

I like the force sword dealing with Ragers

The block attack just sends Ragers to the ground and you can keep hacking at them till they die. It's nice. You're on the right track @near radish

[shy prairie]

can just stand infront of the horde casting it on yourself

[kindred ivy]

new assail applicator

special ™️ assails

these ones crit, and dont generate peril

but requires manual recharge

[azure bridge]

Do we have a boss killer build other than gun?

[plucky flax]

Purgatus Xd

Very slowly dot it down.

[azure bridge]

Oof I'm feeling Hella useless with hard mode boss

Even if I bring smite builds

Was hoping we had an anti boss build to bring more to the table

[plucky flax]

Oh use knife or ds4.

With uncanny and aim at head.

[azure bridge]

With ds4 do I use the alt attack?

[plucky flax]

No heavy spam on the 2.

[azure bridge]

Gotcha I have a pretty good one with uncanny I can use

Any staff recomends?

I've got all but purgatus

[plucky flax]

I actually like laspistol there best.

Revolver would work too.

[azure bridge]

Sadface.jpg

[plucky flax]

Otherwise trauma is best imo.

For cc.

[azure bridge]

I do love my trauma

Wish I had something that gave faster elite kill or boss damage like the other clases tho

I know you use blazing mostly but would rending help at all for that fight?

For quicker elite kills I mean cause of breakpoints

[plucky flax]

Use ds4 or knife with uncanny on bosses as I said.

[azure bridge]

Sorry I know the staff isn't for the twins I meant for the elite adds

[kindred ivy]

for the elite adds i used a revolver

[plucky flax]

Assail + laspistol/revolver.

[kindred ivy]

if u have a strong team you can smite the adds )which will take care of the horde too), and pick off a couple elites with your gun

the push also helps tremendously on the phase changes

so your team doesnt get stuck trying to move

(that corruption dmg adds quickly!)

[shy prairie]

trauma -> rending shockwave

40% brittleness on everything you cc/knock over/the bosses is huge

• the trauma "hits" enemies slightly outside the actual radius

best way to visualize that is with kinetic flayer

[umbral helm]

the push is a part of it that isn't used often enough, honestly. I've used a quick lmb of smite to knock over something so I can focus on something else before turning back to it. clutched a maelstrom a couple times because of it

[shy prairie]

personally I just used venting fireshriek but that's also because I'm a staff goblin and enjoy spamming my staff like 8 times in a row

• the fire actually highlights the poxwalkers in the tox gas

lets you see if you should go L or R

[kindred ivy]

i usually kill most ranged elites on my runs, i tend to keep the smite on a lot

[wheat tulip]

ok but how do I not push, its great sometimes but other times its stopping people from attacking weakpoints and knocking down the chaff which has its own problems

[kindred ivy]

on smite?
either keep smiting untill 100%, or use the basic smite (non charge beforehand)

[shy prairie]

the name of the game on hardmode is how hard you can dps race rodin dead

[kindred ivy]

yeah, gunlugger good

[shy prairie]

the longer he's alive the more toxbombs litter the arena

the more rinda will push you into them for 231203109e^ corruption damage

[wheat tulip]

isnt it as simple as having a fury zealot charge through the field faster than they can go

thats how I deal with them on my zealot

[shy prairie]

disproportionately ive seen less zealots than anything during my suffering in the cauldron

[wheat tulip]

which doesnt make sense, they can body both the melee boss and all the elites coming out, but people take ogryn because they can do the same thing but also charge though things

[shy prairie]

ogryn is just comedically strong

in unrelated news, "tox gas will tenderize you" and "i love tox gas" has been burned into my brain

[wheat tulip]

its melee dps kind of sucks compared to what you can get on the others but its consistantly strong and you dont have conditions you hvae to pull off for the 100% damage PS on vet or the stupid high damage+attackspeed on zealot

[shy prairie]

plus yknow just shoot em wit the kickback

[atomic forum]

oh cool rending still works on soulblaze you have out. guess i'll be back to my purgatus build when i try hard twins

[wheat tulip]

as in what, get max soulblaze then get 5 stacks of uncanny or something?

[obsidian flint]

unyeliding or unarmoured for force sword?

[wheat tulip]

Well it doesnt make sense to get unarmored on the single target one and it doesnt make sense to get unyielding on the aoe one, but I would go for flak carapace on both because those are the only ones that are actually hard to kill. Everything else dies quickly and bosses are either easy, nurgle which you have to shoot, or the twins which are flak carapace

[stark nova]

Hit level 18 and my health at shrunk from 3 bars to 2. Why?

[wheat tulip]

did you go up a difficulty level?

[hot zephyr]

Heresy and above difficulty you get 1 less wound as base. This means on Malice and lower you have 3 base, and heresy/damnation you only have 2

If you want an extra wound on higher difficulty, you'll need a +1 wound curio

[wheat tulip]

Which asks a different question, would you have been downed if you packed a toughness/health curio instead of wounds. The answer is usually no

[stark nova]

Sus

Don’t even have any curios yet

[wheat tulip]

just buy them from the store you owe your soul to

I shoot 16 gunners and what do I get? Another day older and deeper in debt

[hot zephyr]

At those higher difficulties it is assumed you are a more experienced player and will know how to avoid most CC mobs when you start playing at this level. By removing a wound, you risk becoming a casualty on just your 2nd knockdown, making dodging CC mobs and avoiding damage more important than simply blasting away with your weapons

All classes get 1 less wound at heresy+ difficulty, not just psyker.

It's just more noticable since we only get 2 since we are a squishy class

[wheat tulip]

we also have a spammable shield that turns you into a tank

[stark nova]

I only went down once tbf

[hot zephyr]

We also can peril-block using Kinetic Deflection which gives you an absolutely absurd amount of blocking potential

[wheat tulip]

does block efficency work on that? I still got instant killed when trying it out on a crusher

[hot zephyr]

If you run the Kinetic Deflection talent plus a +3 stamina curio, your nearly invincible with the exceptions being the Mauler and Crusher overhead swings

[stark nova]

What

[mortal breach]

I've seen psykers tank daemonhosts on damnation

[wheat tulip]

anyone with a dclaw can solo the daemonhost, anyone with a dclaw can solo anything given enough time though because its the most broken weapon

literally walk backwards spamming parry block parry and you win

[stark nova]

Someone send me a tank psyker build rq

[mortal breach]

Rank 4 deflector helps

[hot zephyr]

Kinetic Deflection is a talent in the talent tree, look near the bottom row at the path that leads to the Disrupt Destiny keystone (see screenshot). It converts all stamina blocking to peril at a rate of 25% of the peril from stamina. This is an absolutely crazy amount of block since you can be quelling peril even without doing anything.

[stark nova]

I haven’t gotten that far in the tree yet

[hot zephyr]

I know, but I'm telling you at high levels when you are expected to be playing Heresy and Damnation difficulty, these talents make those difficulties MUCH easier to play

[stark nova]

What is coherency

[wheat tulip]

heresy is for level 14, you dont want to be stuck in malice past level 13 thats when youre stuck carrying and all the people leveling went to heresy already. Damnation is for level 20

[mortal breach]

I want a force sword blessing that increases my peril capacity

[stark nova]

Are you good at builds

[idle summit]

An aoe surrounding you that buffs you and gives buffs to your allies if they’re within that aoe. Everyone has this

The effect everyone has is increased toughness regen

[hot zephyr]

I'm no youtube pro, but I'm ok.

[stark nova]

So it’s a passive?

[obtuse moth]

there is one, its called exorcist lol.

[obtuse moth]

no, play whatever difficulty you can carry your own weight on, whatever that may be. it will be individual

but skip heresy lol

[stark nova]

Can I send my build here

I’m Xbox so it will be pictures from my phone

[obtuse moth]

its much better to jump from malice to damnation, heresy is a purgatory of players who think theyre too good for malice but can't hack damnation. generally just full of mediocre malice level players. damnation is much much easier than heresy in pugs

[hot zephyr]

@stark nova What you should maybe do is consult the guide that is pinned in this channel. It's called the psyker athenium.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
It will give you a better understanding of what certain talents do and some sample talent builds and weapon combos to use them.

[wheat tulip]

malice is the place for people who reload the bolter every 2 rounds so they get the veteran 10% mag buff

[stark nova]

Can’t read all that. Got eye issues

Rip

[quasi junco]

And for the same reason Auric is better than standard damnation

[wheat tulip]

just skip to the builds then

[hot zephyr]

Yes, it's huge. Don't try to read everything. The sample builds section at the end will give you some ideas for different weapons/combos.

Just skip ahead to that part

It's got a starter/recommended build for every staff, plus some gun builds

[quasi junco]

Gunkers are heretics. Use staves

[wheat tulip]

ok no dont skip the the builds, the guy skips 3 +15 toughness nodes while picking up garbage

revolver is great for DD stacking, ignore him you use basically no ammo with a survivalist and if there is no survivalist you use 1 round every 20 seconds you dont have to pick anything up

[hot zephyr]

It's directly labelled as a "sample" and he lists the key talents you want. It's on you to decide your exact build.

[stark nova]

Worked out a temp build for my playstyle until I get more xp

[quasi junco]

Gunker siblings are adopted

[wheat tulip]

DD is literally a game changer rush it if you can it turned me from struggling to kill hordes into a proto zealot that also trashes elites

[quartz barn]

so uh, all this guide stuff is nice and all, but i wouldnt worry too much about it
just grab whatever you think is usefull/want to try out and tune it every once in a while

[hot zephyr]

Have fun with the 4 staves then. I'm a bullet enjoyer.

[quasi junco]

DD on Voidstrike is great too

[long stone]

Gun psykers>>>>>

[wheat tulip]

duelist saber is garbage against hordes without it I was using a tac axe until I got it because it was the onlything that reliably killed chaff quickly

[frigid briar]

imagine needing ammo when you can levitate pizza into your mouth with your mind smh

[quartz barn]

you dont ds against hordes? you pick it for the movement

sure its usable, but far from efficient

[wheat tulip]

you need to fight against hordes somehow and purgatas is trash at level 15ish, its fine once I got DD but before that I was getting swarmed and had to smite/assail out

[long stone]

Ilisi is overall the best all arounder horde clear is excellent and the blessing with cleave stack makes short work of armor

[wheat tulip]

plus I was getting of zealot that kills 4 trash per swing

[shy prairie]

ds can horde, although requires rampage

[vocal iron]

but then i wont have room for uncanny and shred xd

[sly dawn]

is this a good roll, should i get it, tho i like the trama stuff more so should i wait or get it?

[wheat tulip]

uncanny and riposte since you get full stacks with no need to hit literally every melee with riposte

[shy prairie]

true

[wheat tulip]

and I dodge every second

[quartz barn]

swap that rampage for uncanny

[shy prairie]

uncanny precog

[obtuse moth]

oh good to know, havent played regular damnation once since the auric board came out

[frigid briar]

blessings are ass, rest is ok

[shy prairie]

perks are because of cauldron haven't changed em back yet

[hasty breach]

they use gunstaffs

[quartz barn]

no for the first one you can change rampage

[quasi junco]

LMB fire doesn’t count 😛

[wheat tulip]

once you have DD you dont need rampage anymore since you already kill everything with a light

[vocal iron]

locked rampage 4

[shy prairie]

you cannot stop me

i will use the rampage on the ds

[vast yew]

Rampage on DS is fine; the extra cleave helps vs. hordes

Best is probably Shred for crit talents and that's kind of a tangential benefit anyways

[wheat tulip]

you can use whatever you want, some of the best players use the worst builds simply because they can get away with it. Some guy posted a no keystone zealot build

that he uses in auric

[vast yew]

really as long as you have Uncanny 3/4 on the first blessing the 2nd is completely up to you

[shy prairie]

[vocal iron]

use what you want its your dream anyways none of this is real siblings

[shy prairie]

I would've liked a uncanny/precognition roll for cauldron

[quasi junco]

Supposedly there is a Rifthaven Pyrocast staff that was data mined

[shy prairie]

Empires Will Fall is a fantastic track btw

https://open.spotify.com/track/31seofTDgom8PkDQSbwUUd?si=a6fb513ed86d40f1

[vocal iron]

maybe one day we will get a 5th stafff

[strong gulch]

That's a bad roll on both blessings and one of the perks. Damage is also low. Especially since you are already enjoying something else, this is not worth it.

[sly dawn]

Okay, fair enough, thanks,

[vast yew]

Good news is that if you find a good Surge in the shop they are very difficult for Hadron to brick

you have an 83% chance of getting at least 1 blessing you're looking for, and the most important Perk is 25% Flak

[shy prairie]

holy surge of antioch

[strong gulch]

Rampage on DS isn't bad.

[shy prairie]

tbd obviously

still seething about staff blessings being nontransferable

[vast yew]

Infested -> Crit Chance and I think you be cooking

[vocal iron]

surge blessing is not real im convinced

[shy prairie]

funfact: this was an emperor's gift

[strong gulch]

congrats!

[shy prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1185876678946340894/ragerreaction.gif?ex=659134b8&is=657ebfb8&hm=3d0846e2eac37dbe4a9095f3ffaac6e2f8733b1812a5133ad30d0d9fa3965f74&

[vocal iron]

😦

[wheat tulip]

its just not necessary on the only build type that matters

[shy prairie]

i'd give it to you if i had the chance i don't use void

[vast yew]

None of the DS's blessings aside from Uncanny are necessary

it's just a matter of what you want it to be slightly better at

[wheat tulip]

crits are for the movespeed on crit, how else will I go fast

[shy prairie]

real

[vast yew]

Gaze

[wheat tulip]

if im not beating the zealot in a race Im not living

[vast yew]

Press F to zoom

[vocal iron]

this is my gift from Big E

[vast yew]

yes, yes YE-NOOOO

[wheat tulip]

I need that too for the crits

[vast yew]

pretty good actually but that ammo count is a bit ouch

[vocal iron]

yeah LOOL

[vast yew]

well that and the 71% damage isn't ideal

but lol 1% ammo

[vocal iron]

im keeping it for the 1% ammo meme

[quasi junco]

Isn’t 80% ammo only another 100?

[strong gulch]

If you struggle with hordes on DS, rampage is nice. It's also bugged to give more power than it's supposed. Cleave was also increased which makes keeping rampage stacks up easier.

The build that matters is the one you can use effectively and like.

Persoanlly, I opt for shred tho.

[vast yew]

bug fixed btw

[strong gulch]

This patch? Well feck.

[wheat tulip]

they fixed the charge speed %s changing the plasma guns damage too

which stopped allowing people to 1 shot crushers without crits

[quasi junco]

A needed change lol

[wheat tulip]

because you needed that 104%

[bleak tulip]

I went back to shred

[quasi junco]

Now buff bolters

[bleak tulip]

because I just also didnt find myself triggering rampage that often anyway

was kind of a lotta prep work for the desired outcome, now its just kinda bad again

[strong gulch]

Agree. Even when it was bugged. I didn't like the set up.

[bleak tulip]

most of the value I got out of it was probably being able to slap dreg bruisers in the head with a light attack and being able to kill em

[strong gulch]

Those guys suck.

[wheat tulip]

heavies are super fast sometimes I just chain them to kill 4-5 things anyway because it sfun to stab things in the head

[bleak tulip]

yeah but sometimes I just wanna mash left click

[vast yew]

well usually the only "setup" you need for Rampage is to use a push-attack

which you should be doing anyways

but regardless the 2nd perk isn't going to really do all that much whatever you take; Shred is probably the best just for more crits to trigger talents and occasionally change a breakpoint (as well as more monster DPS)

I've been trying to get a Shred/Uncanny DS4 for a while but Hadron keeps bricking the perks

[thorn cedar]

Rampage is very easy to proc nowadays on the DSs

Patch 13 changed their cleave values

It used to only be the push attack and some of the heavies that could trigger it

[sly dawn]

Uhh, what's "DS"?

[wheat tulip]

dueling sword

[thorn cedar]

The Nintendo DS

[vast yew]

Double Sandwich

[sly dawn]

Ahh, makes sense,I was fearing it was a difficulty name shorted, thanks

[kindred ivy]

guess which psycher build each one of those was

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/what-do-they-mean-random-numbers-gif-10654449

[thin quartz]

Hello Psychers, I am travelling amonst the classes and asking a question..

Why do you feel Psycher is the best class?

[sly dawn]

I only really played psyker and ogryn but I like funny staff and brain burst, I find it funny and fun

[vast yew]

Psyker has tremendous ability to influence a match. Either with one of their staves providing damage and crowd control in ample supply, or a Gun Psyker ripping through a Rager wave in mere seconds.
You pay for this power by being squishy AF

[hot zephyr]

We are the ultimate glass cannon and provide active-defenses to our team, but suffer from a high skill floor that can easily turn into a liability if we don't protect ourselves first and deal damage second.

[stark nova]

What difficulty should a level 21 be in

Or rather what are the level gates for each difficulty

[vast yew]

If you're comfortable, 21 is probably fine for Heresy

If not, Malice

[stark nova]

Been doing heresy since I was 14 lol

[vast yew]

If you're very familiar with tide games in general you could probably even go Damnation

[stark nova]

Just had a team of 6,9,7 in heresy…

[crimson zealot]

this a good blaze trauma staff?

[thin quartz]

anyone have advice for running scryers gaze?

Ive been using it with a force sword and laspistol and it feels lovely

[vast yew]

that's a thammer

[stark nova]

Smite is alright with it if you have the damage bonus on both

[crimson zealot]

a thammer that's been turned into a staff

[vast yew]

pop it when you want to delete stuff with your gun, use Assail (probably) to kill off small groups to save ammo for your team

[hot zephyr]

Don't over-optimize your build/perks/blessing for the gaze since it only last 10-12 seconds and has a long cooldown. Build a solid damage output mechanism and treat gaze as the cherry on the damage sundae rather than the main-course

[vast yew]

it's not a godroll but that should work pretty well until you get something closer to 80/80 charge rate/blast radius

[vale nacelle]

More than serviceable and able to function as it needs to 👍

[crimson zealot]

Thanks yall

[thin quartz]

ive noticed i like to try to keep myself at 100% peril and use the buff for swinging m1s with the force sword

[vale nacelle]

It’s a good situation for you since you’re still able to swap on blaze 4 when you find it.

[shy prairie]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-spy-medic-kill-me-team-fortress2-gif-21078154

[obtuse moth]

huh? it can last in excess of 30 seconds + 10

[wheat tulip]

I used it with a duelist sword during waves, pop it and start light attacking and breakpoints start to go from 5 lights with a ds to 2-3. Doesnt make sense to use it on something that needs peril but if you pack say a columbus 5 you can get to max damage very fast while killing ragers and gunners then swap to melee and clean everything else up. With DD you start to do crafy zeakpoint damage

[vast yew]

Then there's @glossy ember who runs Gaze + Surge staff + Warp Siphon but I don't recommend doing that

[wheat tulip]

it can last a very long time if all you do is melee or use guns, especially with something that lowers your peril like a force sword/that one talent

[thin quartz]

what is dueling sword good for? i never tried it

[shy prairie]

saltz rapier

click heads with heavy

[wheat tulip]

amazing weakpoint damage on all elites

[thorn cedar]

its even easier than that

[stark nova]

Psyker trousers suck so bad

[wheat tulip]

and you can use dd/scriers to do chaff damage too

[thorn cedar]

-20% peril node and solidity

you can legit just

[thin quartz]

isnt force sword just.... god tier?

[thorn cedar]

walk around quelling

[prime elk]

Honestly IV is pretty good at everything

[vast yew]

Duelling Sword 4 is a monster

[thorn cedar]

but thats not very efficient lul

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/for-years-i-laid-vegeta-dragon-ball-z-oh-its-you-gif-25317783

[vast yew]

not the best at Horde Clear but the heavies are fast and rip through Elites with Uncanny

[wheat tulip]

I tried quelling during it once while using assail and ended up popping at the end, kind of embarrassing

[thin quartz]

tell me about gaze gays

[vast yew]

people asked advice for playing Gaze, figured you'd want to chime in

[thorn cedar]

yeah you do gotta train yourself to still not try to cast over 30 stacks or os

[wheat tulip]

I jumped from 78ish percent to instantly dead

[hot zephyr]

The kill bonus for quelling is very small, the gaze ramps up the longer it lasts, you need MASSIVE peril dump to get it to last beyond 15 seconds or be killing poxes like an absolute maniac

[glossy ember]

i cant tell you about gays but i can about gaze

step 1 is to quell

thats it

[wet belfry]

15 secs is easy no?

[glossy ember]

im on phone so i'll just link clips

[vast yew]

as long as you don't cast anything above ~99% Peril you won't explode, for most things
Some things have lower requirements, like BB can't be started above 97%

[thorn cedar]

15 sec is almost baseline just pressing F and standing

[thin quartz]

why no 100% peril for damage buff?

[hot zephyr]

If you press gaze and do nothing it'll last 12s

[vast yew]

You'll get there eventually with gaze

[wheat tulip]

the other thing about gaze is its almost always up when you need it because 30 seconds with -5% on elite/spec kills means by the time the next horde hits after the 30% damage stacks wear off your already back to using it

[glossy ember]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1185668499163582594/Warhammer_40000_Darktide_replay_2023.12.15-19.30.mp4?ex=659072d6&is=657dfdd6&hm=163d32804a98a36741c6c44fece1d37a3b0254449179dc4cbd8e7eab44a1920d& surge staff with gaze, slightly messed up

[hot zephyr]

With -20% peril generation, you'll get 15s

[glossy ember]

god damn it the link isnt working

[thorn cedar]

gaze is generally a 20-25~% damage buff for 30~s and you are guaranteed the 20% crit chance

[thin quartz]

tell it to get a job

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message

[half iron]

in bed fayl

[thorn cedar]

i find it pretty easy to hit 20 stacks of it

[thin quartz]

i do love my crit builds

[thorn cedar]

and ive definitely had it last for up to a minute before

[glossy ember]

#psyker-class message

there u go

first link is surge staff

second link is assail spam

[wet belfry]

Doesnt the stackable damage bonus last for like 10s?

[glossy ember]

if they wanna use a staff sure

[thorn cedar]

yeah, im just tossing out averages, and i mean, super anecdotal anyway

when you press F 10% damage and 20% crit is guaranteed

stacks are extra damage on top, so at peak you can get 40% damage and 20% crit and 40% finesse if you have the top node

[wet belfry]

The stacking bonus only applys after scriers has ended.

[thorn cedar]

it's a lot, but you probably won't hold peak for long

then it's 30%-0%-30%

[hot zephyr]

Yes, it lasts 10s after the gaze itself expires. But you can't build stacks once the peril generation stops. You only get that 10-15s window to build stacks so you basically gotta be all revved up and ready to crush before you pop

[glossy ember]

nah applies during pretty sure

[wet belfry]

The 1% growing to 30 that is

[glossy ember]

yes

[wheat tulip]

Im not trading it for the shield until Im better at managing how squishy the class is, Im still on zealot berzerker highs

[wet belfry]

Only precog stacks apply during scriers, after.

Not the stacking effect from scriers itself.

[thorn cedar]

either way its the crit you really want to build into

[glossy ember]

are you sure

because i'm hitting 2k crits with surge staff mid scrier gaze and that shouldn't be possible without 25 stacks at least

[wet belfry]

Im pretty sure

I tested it extensively in psykanium

[vast yew]

anyways Scriers is for hitting lots of crits at the expense of Peril, which means it pretty much only works with Guns (or, as Booden does, the Surge Staff)

[wheat tulip]

I mean its easy enough to test just only grab scriers and no other damage things then go into it and watch if the numbers increase

[vast yew]

if you're doing normal Psyker stuff you probably are better off with Shriek + Creeping Flames to lets you quickly quell and get back to throwing mind bullets

or Dome to keep team safe

[wet belfry]

Make sure no precog sub talent

Precog actually increases dps during scriers gaze.

[thorn cedar]

scriers is fun as fuck

and with DD

im not even playing darktide

[glossy ember]

i use the peril reduction one not precog

[thorn cedar]

im playing some fucked up minigame where there's a bomb with a timer on my neck and i have to chase down little blue men and kill them

my team fighting a chaos spawn and six reapers? brb yall there's a blue scab bruiser in the other room whose smoke break i have to interrupt

DESTINY COMPELS ME

[hot zephyr]

Rofl. Best RP ever. 👏

[vast yew]

That be why I have mixed feelings on DD, though it gets a lot better with the 30 second talent

[glossy ember]

the mini game is more fun when your weapon also generates peril

[half iron]

i like dd
it highlights lone enemies that i should drop everything i’m doing and shoot them. it’s like i’m playing veteran but cooler

[thorn cedar]

i have a lot of fun with Battle Meditation + Purloin Providence when I do Void Gaze

Transfer Peril as well, ofc

[hot zephyr]

I tried the BM+PP build for a while, but I found it would often cause me to just end up in bad places and get downed

[thorn cedar]

You haven't lived unless you've brought yourself from 80% to 10% with a giant death ball

[hot zephyr]

Got too tunnel visioned on blue man

[bleak tulip]

hehe PP

[thorn cedar]

yeah that happens a lot

the tunnel vision is real but i cant be stopped

[vast yew]

the key with DD is to kind of ignore it in big fights, but that makes me feel bad when I'm spending 3 points on something just to ignore it when the chips are down

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, that's why I switched to an Assail/EP/Gunker + Bubble Shield build. Made me feel like I was the team's support and i get downed a lot less

[half iron]

i just kill things with my weapons. the blue men are just in the crossfire

[hot zephyr]

My damage also went WAYYYYY up (mostly cus I wasn't casualty for half the mission)

[bleak tulip]

you can just ignore it in fights because you automatically get stacks without trying during waves

[wheat tulip]

in big fights just pull out your revolver and shoot across the room to keep your stacks up takes half a second

[thorn cedar]

its why assail is basically made for DD, and why i like Void and Laspistol so much

[bleak tulip]

why feel bad

[thorn cedar]

You can still help in the fight and keep your DD going by scooping up an occasional kill easily mid-fight

and with Void you just blow away anything between you and the blueman

[vast yew]

I am still waiting for a decent Laspistol that Hadron doesn't immediately brick

[bleak tulip]

the easiest mistake you can make with DD is hyperfocusing on the funny "click on blue man" mini game

[thorn cedar]

incorrect

that's the best play

follow the bluemens

[wheat tulip]

if the emperor didnt want us to kill them he wouldnt have made them blue

[hot zephyr]

I'm thinking I might have some fun, my next build I'm going to plasteel up will be voidstrike, wondering if maybe I can have some fun shooting blue death balls at blue guy

[thorn cedar]

DD buff is tremendous as well

[wheat tulip]

imagine psyker walking into a room full of blue tau

[thorn cedar]

i honestly do not think you should feel bad prioritizing a blue boy on occasion

[half iron]

i’m waiting for a trauma that jane hadron or john melk won’t brick, or at least one with blaze so i could steal the blessing

[half iron]

that’s what the stub, my favorite staff, is for

[thorn cedar]

15/30-30/60-37.5/75 damage/crit/headshot damage is absolutely wild

[wheat tulip]

Im sure theyre confused why I pull out my revolver to finish off some rando theyre meleeing to death

[bleak tulip]

key word "on occasion"

[thorn cedar]

it's a fine line and it can be frustrating

[bleak tulip]

you inferred from my post that I said "clicking blue man always bad"

[thorn cedar]

its why the 30s node feels so mandatory

[bleak tulip]

reading comprehension level gunker

[thorn cedar]

15s is pretty tight when the buff sometimes likes to shuffle around randomly

[bleak tulip]

yeah there is really no excuse not to take 30s

[thorn cedar]

there's no guarantee that you can 'save' a marked target to scoop up at the last second

[glossy ember]

give surge scrier a try bros

[half iron]

the only things i read as a gunker is my name on the feed and “[name] collected [material]”

[glossy ember]

you'll love it

i promose

[bleak tulip]

no

[glossy ember]

[thorn cedar]

i do the double stacks lol

[bleak tulip]

not even because its a weirdo thing to do

but because I cant stand surge staff

[glossy ember]

is good.....

[bleak tulip]

never could

[glossy ember]

ok i respect it

[wheat tulip]

on the contrary, you only really need it during heavy waves and having 30 stacks lets you start to obliterate things and youre already weakpoint killing so its like, tag 15 blue men and youre a god

[bleak tulip]

its not even bad anymore but even when it was fuckin broken I couldnt stand playing it

[thorn cedar]

even the 15 stack buff is heckin strong

30 is mostly uh

indulgent

[kindred ivy]

to all smite deniers, left is smite 💪 right is trauma force

[thorn cedar]

but i like it

[glossy ember]

left: surge staff scrier gigachad
right: goonker

[wheat tulip]

so they were kill stealing again, no wonder

[kindred ivy]

no surge

smiet

smite and revovler

[glossy ember]

scrier smite pog

[kindred ivy]

ventin flame

[glossy ember]

ugh

[kindred ivy]

another smite run. auric maelstrom

[vast yew]

why tf is melee lessers and ranged lessers seperated

[bleak tulip]

freeloader

[kindred ivy]

i am useless in loot

[wet belfry]

Pathetic

[kindred ivy]

just 1.1 kilsl

yeah totally useless

[bleak tulip]

the one scoreboard metric that matters and you post your L's

truly sad

[kindred ivy]

which one?
loot?

[vast yew]

[kindred ivy]

kek

it doesnt matter to me

i have already the weapons i want

[vast yew]

picking up Plasteel is the job of every Imperial Citizen

[bleak tulip]

wow not only shit tier smite takes, but also incredibly selfish

"I got mine"

[willow hazel]

Why do all these scoreboards have 2k+ lesser melee kills? How long are these games taking?

[kindred ivy]

30 minutes

on this game

[vast yew]

pretty sure "melee lesser" means lesser enemy with melee weapon, not killed in melee

[kindred ivy]

this last one

yeah its lesser melee enemies killed

[willow hazel]

yeah I know

[kindred ivy]

first my dmg is low, and now that i prove its consistenlty high, u guys are finding other metrics

yeah

epic

[vast yew]

holy hell that is a cursed Trauma

[kindred ivy]

tbh

i only use the revolver

[wet belfry]

Ive no idea what you are talking about

But its ok

[half iron]

the stub is the coolest staff

[wet belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/neco-arc-gif-22980190

[kindred ivy]

rhe stub is the best staff

bullet blast >>>

[vast yew]

Actually I take it back all of those staves are cursed as hell

[glossy ember]

get the ovenproof scoreboard mod

[vast yew]

You might want plasteel homes because those things are terrible

[glossy ember]

is better

[wheat tulip]

I cast gun

[vast yew]

I think that is ovenproof booden

[kindred ivy]

i use the revolver

i cast bullet

[glossy ember]

no

[kindred ivy]

i kill elites

with gun

and everything else with revovler

[glossy ember]

thats default with addons

[vast yew]

oh

[glossy ember]

iirc

[ornate hamlet]

Man still dwells on the "but you guys said my damage is low" when he didn't mention he was using fire shriek and revolver

What a clown

[kindred ivy]

smite dps is higher

than fire shriek

[wheat tulip]

you dont say I cast lightning its I cast surge, you use the surge to attack them with lightning, you use the gun to attack with bullet, so you cast gun

[kindred ivy]

btw

[half iron]

i need more plasteel. i’m just tryna get blazing spirit for a trauma but jane hadron sucks out all my plasteel like a cordless dyson v8 just for sustained fire or surge😭

[willow hazel]

My 30 minute games are usually between 1-1.5k lesser melee kills.

[glossy ember]

no but i feel him cuz once upon a time i was told my damage was low

let him cook

[kindred ivy]

auric maestorm

EP smite is 125 dps

[vast yew]

Smite + Shriek spam is a fine build

[bleak tulip]

this mfer been here for like two days and people still fallin for the bait

[soft osprey]

i find funny that psyker chat is very competitive

[kindred ivy]

^ revovler fills the holes.

[half iron]

psykers must compete on which one is the craziest

[hot zephyr]

Yeah... we're the crazy people.... duh.

[soft osprey]

never have i ever seen such a topical class chat ever

[hot zephyr]

Everyone here is the other voices in our heads

[half iron]

i’m just here to spread blue fire and cast lightning from my hands. the only thing i’m competing for is most plasteel collected

[kindred ivy]

me when i consistently help my team with stuns "is bad"

[soft osprey]

i love this chat

[glossy ember]

people live in my head rent free too easily

i still hear their voices

[vast yew]

check 5 minutes ago in Veteran chat where you had people calling each other dipshits over Plasma Gun breakpoints

[soft osprey]

which is exactly on point with veteran

[vast yew]

Actually it's still going lol

[wheat tulip]

So is IRL the dream or is darktide the dream? Are we just fake reality until another mission comes along and we play like a computer game to hide from reality?

[thorn cedar]

Either way this weed is great.

[wheat tulip]

Say no to weed say yes to warp taint

[half iron]

my psyker gf brain bursted a poxburster i pushed a while ago and it made me think of veterans that did the same thing with their firearms

[bleak tulip]

gun class has no guns, its sad

[vast yew]

Fan-the-Hammer Zealot stole all the ammo

terrible tragedy

[bleak tulip]

they fight over the one good one they have that isnt the one everyone else also has

[wheat tulip]

what, helbore mk3?

[vast yew]

I would like the Mk3 more if the bayonet attack wasn't a funky overhead

who tf uses a bayonet like that

it's a spear not an axe

[half iron]

it’s how you can tell one is a psyker in secret

[vast yew]

Also trying to use a Helbore while leveling is actual Hel

charge speed so sloooowww

[half iron]

helbore is my favorite vet gun but uhhh i hate having the krieg larper loadout

[wheat tulip]

mk2 is too fast, mk1 is too weak mk3 has bad melee, is fatshark into making bad weapons?

[kindred ivy]

why

why do uhate krig lap lodot

have u tried smiting

[bleak tulip]

why use hellbore when plasma exists

[jolly bear]

New vox recording dropped

[half iron]

plasma is lame

[kindred ivy]

the fuck is a plasma

[vast yew]

https://tenor.com/view/bayonets-gettysburg-jeff-daniels-command-gif-5737524

[half iron]

and if i do use plasma i’d start arguing about breakpoints to other vets that use plasma

[bleak tulip]

plasma is the only thing that gets me through playing that class every week

I am very appreciative of it being good right now

[half iron]

it’s so sad that helbore is the only melee that veterans have😢

[eager mantle]

Helbore or plasma. Favoring helbore because it's more satisfying and barely need to swap to melee

[soft osprey]

bruh just snort warp dust

[eager mantle]

Too weak? My brother in christ sorry the game isn't just handing instakills out for you

[jolly bear]

Turn off the gellar fields for a good high

[wheat tulip]

If I take a full second on something it should headshot kill a rager