psyker-class

[untold widget]

they do be like that

[paper harbor]

As long I don’t get hear muttie roar

[potent echo]

Don't panic, you will be very safe

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muties are puppy dogs

[paper harbor]

Man I wish fs not implement scavenger hunt on plasteel

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quick sidestep and then stab in face

[potent echo]

If special coming hide in a corner

[untold widget]

one and done

[potent echo]

Don't run in the open then get surprised you get hound or trapper

[sudden trellis]

it's funny how getting used to auric maelstrom makes anything sub-damnation feel like the map is empty

[untold widget]

this

[paper harbor]

I used play very reflexes on damnation before that time

[untold widget]

once you're comfortable in Auric stuff, the regular missions are super easy to farm

[sudden trellis]

at first it was just "THE AIR IS MADE OUT OF MUTANTS AND POXHOUNDS!", and eventually you just get used to the most spastic gameplay lmao

[paper harbor]

Specially run quick play damnation, I already knew shock trooper gauntlet is we doomed

[untold widget]

STG is when i start paying attention

[potent echo]

You need to have your own way of dealing with specials

[paper harbor]

Yeah I tried very hard sometime team get pinned down easily

I get habit “help them up”

[potent echo]

Just reflexes isn't going to cut it, its like square peg round hole

[sudden trellis]

STG is super fun because you get your ult back nonstop

[untold widget]

I'd say post build and we can work on it, but I gotta go to bed

[paper harbor]

Stg and horde, worse

Stg and boss

Super dead

[ornate hamlet]

I just had a very crazy gayme

[paper harbor]

Yeah, director throw random bs and lose my plasteel investment

On stg all time

[silk hawk]

I like stgs

[paper harbor]

Some guy suggest me play lower difficulty if I get burnout

[silk hawk]

They are most fun

[half iron]

i love the director.
i am saying this only for an extra batch of large plasteel

[paper harbor]

Heresy or malice, stg heresy is passable

[ornate hamlet]

Saved everyone, we all died like 10 times, finished the mission i dodged like seven dogs and trappers hhhhuhuuuu

We held the ground at the respawn Point like the fucking Cadian guard before the planet cracked

[potent echo]

That's because the specials aren't dying because no one is killing

You should kill them

[ornate hamlet]

But 2000 kills so

[half iron]

i like killing specials because my name appears on the feed

[sudden trellis]

36 minutes, goddamn

[potent echo]

Lol, terrible suggestion

[paper harbor]

Playing with my friend as zealot just giving me 180 heart beats per minute when two his friend are zealot, I run psyker and three of them run knife speed malice leaving me behind. That I run so fast panic run

[potent echo]

Yea I think you need to get comfortable playing alone

[ornate hamlet]

It was a high intensity every moment was a battle every moment we were cutting through hordes

[sudden trellis]

based

[ornate hamlet]

I have never been so tired in my life

My brother in Christ it was just a malice

I want to level up

[sudden trellis]

you are the emperor's strongest soldier, man

[ornate hamlet]

I think I qualify as an honorary Guardsman now

Saving my team not once but twice after they all died

[paper harbor]

I’ll see about it, if my spirit gaming refill to play Darktide.

[plucky flax]

Go damnation twins normal mode bell skip to level.

[ornate hamlet]

The smelting complex at the end was so fucking crazy

[plucky flax]

7 mins per run

[sudden trellis]

folks using twins to farm p-steel?

[plucky flax]

Nah exp

Or ordos

[ornate hamlet]

So basically every time we would get to the the final Tech monstrosity everyone would end up dying to Trappers or flamers and the undying hordes of bullshit so somebody would make their way all the way back to the respawn point to grab everybody then we would do it again and we did that like three times

The hordes were numerous

My Infernus staff is now my go-to weapon from now on

[half iron]

the stub is my favorite staff

[ornate hamlet]

The fact that it can push backwards hoards is the best part about it

I don't think we could have made it without me

[sudden trellis]

I've been utterly booling with surge+smite lately. It really makes some games into babymode

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah I have a build for that but I'm not going to abuse it

So right now I have a brain burst an venting shriek build

Could the mission have been a thousand percent easier with Smite? absolutely

Would it be as memorable? I don't know

[sudden trellis]

chad.

smite does feel like it's overperforming a bit

[ornate hamlet]

I love the saber as well

I need to put flak on it though

[sudden trellis]

the saber is possibly the most classy melee weapon I've played in a FPS game

[ornate hamlet]

Frrrrr

Seriously by the end of that mission I was screaming like a psycho

[sudden trellis]

lmao

[ornate hamlet]

I think I yelled something about how I am melcador Reborn and I think I did a spot on impression of bugs beneath my heels

I don't want to concern any of y'all but I think I might have opened a portal

[half iron]

my psyker gf goes wild in pub chat

[sudden trellis]

that's normal, that's supposed to happen

[sudden trellis]

is this the one that goes to another school?

[ornate hamlet]

Based gf

[half iron]

she goes to the warp

[proven beacon]

So between voidstrike staff and surge staff, which one would you all prefer?

[mighty olive]

i still prefer void

[cobalt bone]

okay i wasted now 5k plasteel to get new blessings on my voidstrike, all i got was run 'n gun and sustained fire

thanks

only those 2 blessings on all the weapons

fun

[plucky flax]

Welcome to darktide.

[cobalt bone]

arent there like 9 blessings i could get lol

[gloomy magnet]

ducktight

[plucky flax]

Fs seem to purposefully make good blessings rarely like power cycle 4 and surge.

[half iron]

i like farming for blessings then hadron says i need <10 more plasteel just to make a weapon yellow (edited)

[gloomy magnet]

hadron lil greedy b...

[half iron]

omg so true!

[plush jacinth]

cant even find t3 surge if my life depended on it

let alone t4.

a dream of a dream away

from my ordo docket-poor ass

[plucky flax]

Surge is only t4.

[half iron]

i need my blazing trauma, jane tech-priest i wanna see what it’s like why do i need more plasteel

[plucky flax]

[plush jacinth]

ah, well, that makes sense. still cant find t4 nonetheless cus hadron hates me

[half iron]

surge is all i roll if it’s not terrifying barrage or warp flurry

[tulip trench]

ok

blazing trauma is fun

[plucky flax]

No it's bad pls buff.

[half iron]

i’m also angry at john melk for crashing me whenever i want to see if he has a blaze trauma

[ivory heath]

yo which heavy las pistol is the one thats been poppin off rn for twins

[plucky flax]

Shout out to Faust for getting the most plasteels. Real MVP.

[lethal lagoon]

I've said it once and I'll say it again, 1st place damage without 1st place plasteel doesn't count

[half iron]

plasteel is the only scoreboard stat that matters

[plucky flax]

I like mk2 (the fast one).

The slow one is maybe good on vet with volley fire.

It shoots so damn slow the dps drop is noticeable from mk2.

[brisk lance]

Would anyone here be willing to recommend a good BB buil so that when I get started on Psyker penances next week I can have a leg up?

I realize that apparently BB isn't particularly good, but I am mostly looking for a good build that just so happens to have BB in it so I can chase penances.

[tulip trench]

surge staff plus bb plus dueling sword/illisi

[potent echo]

Just take all the BB talents?

[tulip trench]

use bb for bosses and crushers/maulers

[brisk lance]

@potent echo The last time I played Psyker was... 13 months ago.

I have a level 30 with some pretty decent gear I've been farming just sitting here, but no idea how to use it.

[potent echo]

Like what kind of issues do you have with the build

[tulip trench]

what ranged weapon do you like? staff or gun

[brisk lance]

No, I mean, I literally have not played it in 13 months.

Uhhh, I wouldn't know.

[potent echo]

Just boot up the game

[brisk lance]

I've only ever used guns,.

[potent echo]

And find out

[brisk lance]

Because I haven't touched this psyker in 13 months besides getting him gear periodically.

[tulip trench]

use bb when you have ep stacks

treat the empowered psionic stacks as brain burst "ammo"
dont use it unless you have EP stacks, or unless its right after you place your bubble (cause your cast time will be faster)

[shy prairie]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914161923334214/1185876678946340894/ragerreaction.gif?ex=659134b8&is=657ebfb8&hm=3d0846e2eac37dbe4a9095f3ffaac6e2f8733b1812a5133ad30d0d9fa3965f74&

[tulip trench]

Weapon Customization mod 😎

[lethal lagoon]

#1158835513789272126 message

[tulip trench]

Thors hammer shoots lightning

[brisk lance]

Thank you both.

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind left shield talent tree has 2 charges, so you can keep the BB buff up for a long ass time.

[tulip trench]

also true

just figure if he hasnt played in 13 months bubble survivability will be a PUB saver

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I missed that part, just saw BB comment.

[tulip trench]

for curios, 1 health, 1 toughtness, stamina/wound (personal preference: stamina for reviving teammates, wound for if your getting downed often)

[brisk lance]

Alright. I'll focus on getting a Columnus/Revolver because I didn't think I'd need to get one of those, but I do have all of the blessings for them unlocked already, so that will make this easier, as well as diving a bit deeper into Surge staffs. One other thing.

[tulip trench]

surge honestly better than columnus/revolver since your using BB. You would run BB OR revolver, they do the same task

[brisk lance]

This is an Illisi or however it's spelled, it's fine, right?

[tulip trench]

ya

thats great

[brisk lance]

Alright.

Cool.

[ionic frost]

Why does it look like a Deimos?

[brisk lance]

Skin.

[tulip trench]

Weapon customization mod

or skin

[ionic frost]

ok

[brisk lance]

It's the skin that's sold with the voice modulator outfit

[ionic frost]

You play dressup-tide while I purge heretics!

[brisk lance]

Here is an actual Deimos, this is fine too, correct?

[ionic frost]

Illisi has much more horde control

And I like my Deimos to have lower warp resist, 80 everything else =)

Though I guess it doesn't matter as much without infinite dodges now.

[tulip trench]

ya, id swap out slaughterer for unstable, riposte, shred. but thats me, i only use deimos as a single target weapon then put it away after

[brisk lance]

Got it.

[tulip trench]

if you want a horde clear melee, use illisi

single target, deimos... or mk4 dueling lmao

[half iron]

i like illisi to feel cooler than a veteran

[tulip trench]

this^

better power sword

[rustic patio]

Power sword feels more satisfying tho imo

[tulip trench]

ya... especially on carapace

i can 2 swing crushers with my power sword

Shove stab into L1 with extra hit blessing

insta ded

[lethal lagoon]

Wat do?

[tulip trench]

force sword can light spam though

[half iron]

power sword is boring because it’s attached to veteran

[tulip trench]

stamina to maniac/carapace, unless you like moving fast. that knife doesnt have the heavy movement speed mk3 does

depends what your using it for

[lethal lagoon]

Are you sure?

[cosmic sigil]

I still use bb on my scryer + dd build. Because there's no way the columnus will get the sniper 50m away

[lethal lagoon]

I thought heavy spam worked the same for speeding

[tulip trench]

test it out

its different heavy attack pattern

[shy prairie]

bb exists to bb the things that randomly get caught in my trauma radius

[lethal lagoon]

Oh I can't tell the difference between running spd very well, I'll need to grab the mod for that

I know it's different, but I thought spd was the same

[tulip trench]

itll be very visually obvious

no mod needed

[shy prairie]

https://www.spd.de/

[tulip trench]

mk3 knife if you heavy while sprinting, the fov goes all crazy zoomed out and blurry

[mossy sundial]

does anybody have a meta psyker auric maelstrom build they wouldn't mind linking me?

[lethal lagoon]

uhh, I tested in 3rd person, seems about the same.

[lethal lagoon]

What kind of playstyle are you looking for? Gunker? Voidstrike? Surge?

[brisk lance]

I read over that guy's giant steam post about the Psyker (skimmed it to be frank) and he said there is a way to build the Illisi to do a huge amount of damage to the Assassination targets, I looked at what he suggested and then read the rest of the section on the Illisi but he doesn't go into detail as to how you could do this.

[mossy sundial]

what's meta rn?

[tulip trench]

shred plus blazing probably

[mossy sundial]

prob voidstrike? maybe?

[lethal lagoon]

Assail Gunker is probably the highest dps

Blazing trauma on melee maelstrom for sure

[mossy sundial]

voidstrike no longer meta? interesting

[rustic patio]

I personally had most success with purg staff with BB but I like the variety with Psyker

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it's still really strong, but it's pretty dependent on bowling alley set ups.

[mossy sundial]

and i dont want it for twins, right?

[lethal lagoon]

No

[tulip trench]

i do dueling mk4, surge, smite, venting (bubble sometimes)

[mossy sundial]

right. what do you recommend for twins? smite/gunker?

[rustic patio]

Can’t ever go wrong with surge staff and bio lightning

[tulip trench]

smite, vent, smite again

[brisk lance]

He mentions Uncanny Strike and Unstable Power, but I have to read up on exactly how those are supposed to synergize with this.

[lethal lagoon]

Assail Gunker if you wanna do boss dps and ocassionaly clean up trash around you.

[mossy sundial]

i've gotta say, god bless psyker atheneum

[lethal lagoon]

Basically anything for cleaning up the elite spawns instead

[mossy sundial]

so if i use assail gunker i am relying on teammates to dispatch elites

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you can kill them effectively 🤷‍♂️

But someone has to DPS the boss lmao

[mossy sundial]

and if i take voidstrike im not dealing much boss dmg?

[lethal lagoon]

relative to others, not really

If you wanna take voidstrike, do elite focus

[mossy sundial]

ok gotcha

hm

[tulip trench]

surge is higher im pretty sure. void is still great for shields/crushers/bulwarks, but theres soooo many gunners + ranged chaff, void hamstrings you
gotta make it to the boss first

[mossy sundial]

i have a better question now

how the hell do you guys farm enough materials for like 5 builds that you swap between

[rustic patio]

Purg can be nice for maps with a lot of close quarters

[tulip trench]

Damnation Low intensity

[mossy sundial]

also what class/build do you farm those mats with because that's what I REALLY need

[tulip trench]

hunt down every piece of plasteel

[rustic patio]

Half the time I’m running blue weapons

[mossy sundial]

also why does it currently feel like everything a psyker does a zealot can do better

[tulip trench]

I pulled 620 - 790 plasteel out of Damnation Low Intensity missions in about 20 min
i run smite surge dueling pysker with vent

or

zealot with new evis + chastise

[mossy sundial]

i gotcha

[tulip trench]

smite vent smite again

spam surge

[rustic patio]

Crit zealot always fun

[tulip trench]

having chastise on a 5 second cooldown haha

[mossy sundial]

wish psyker had something truly unique this patch but seems we're outclassed atm :C

[rustic patio]

That or the knife bleed version with stealth can be sunny

Fun

[tulip trench]

ive yet to try stealth i gotta get on it

[rustic patio]

Getting a nice bleed crit knife makes it go so hard

[silk hawk]

When u have 1.5k hours in a game its not matters that much xD

[shy prairie]

much more manageable with only one character

good thing I've made seven

[silk hawk]

I play 2, feels pretty comfortable:)

[tame venture]

so for the twins, is devils claw, surge, smite, shriek the loadout to go with?

[rustic patio]

? Idk Psyker still got some hella strong qualities I haven’t felt the weakness of it yet

[mossy sundial]

which 2

[silk hawk]

Psyker and Zealot

[mossy sundial]

maybe after making a super optimized build it'll feel better

[shy prairie]

completed it with rending shockwave trauma staff, rampage uncanny dueling mkiv

and fireshriek

[mossy sundial]

but psyker meta is all over the place, idk what to make

[silk hawk]

Obviously i have all other classes at 30 just for check mark, but i almost dont play them T.T

[shy prairie]

vet and psyker are the only classes I've 100%d

[mossy sundial]

if you guys only had the mats for one psyker build what're you making

[tulip trench]

I also find that melk always sells trash stat weapons, but with the blessing i need.
so i do all the contracts on each character, then buy the weapon with the blessing i need from him and harvest it. Blessings are between characters

then i only need to farm a good stat roll instead of upgrading weapons to farm blessings

[rustic patio]

Just gotta have good rng

But a weapon you never use and roll the best possible blessings and stats

[lethal lagoon]

Surge, cause it's easy and lazy wins for more mats for any other build I want.

[mossy sundial]

alright i'll go for it

[shy prairie]

melk: hey you want a vraks 3 with headhunter on your psyker

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is also very easy to roll a good one

It doesn't have a lot of options

[mossy sundial]

hey are these blessings worth spending my melk currency for?

[shy prairie]

it has like 3 t4 options

[mossy sundial]

obviously not the gun or the roll, just the blessings

for future use

[shy prairie]

meanwhile my trauma staff will constantly roll terrifying barrage

[lethal lagoon]

DumDum IV for your Columbus Mk5 is meta

[mossy sundial]

other blessing stinks?

[shy prairie]

there's nothing wrong with it

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, some people run it, DumDum is just better.

[rustic patio]

Me waiting for warp nexus on my purg staff

[mossy sundial]

thx C:

[lethal lagoon]

And you can only choose one

[shy prairie]

staves should have shared blessing pools

[mossy sundial]

any particular surge build i should copy?

[lethal lagoon]

Super basic surge build with all the essentials. 2 free points for your personal preference.

[mossy sundial]

and i assume ds4 is fine for melee?

or is there something else you recommend

[shy prairie]

[mossy sundial]

oh damn thats what i really need, a godroll ds4

[lethal lagoon]

2 free points for your personal preference

Ds4 isn't as great on surge, other than for anti-mutant.

Still good choice though because it will go with every other build

[mossy sundial]

deimos maybe?

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, roll for a ds4 if you are limited

It will literally slot every other build

[mossy sundial]

gotcha

[tulip trench]

deimos outclassed by ds4

[lethal lagoon]

Also it's a smite build. KD and smite is kind of silly unless you are bad at dealing with boss combos.

[mossy sundial]

good?

[tulip trench]

with surge you literally never use your melee weapon
unless a mutie is beside you, or your swarmed and need to shove

[shy prairie]

finesse makes me cry

roll it and see what you get

[mossy sundial]

important stat?

gotcha

[brisk lance]

Does the Illisi primarily use Heavies or Lights? And how often do I have to charge up the special, if I use it at all that is.

[tulip trench]

normally yes. on a surge build, doesnt matter

[lethal lagoon]

Special is for when you can realtively safely mow down hordes and mutants.

Light spam for normal situations

[mossy sundial]

sigh

[tulip trench]

either light spam,
or
charge heavy 1, repeat

[lethal lagoon]

Infested to maniac, riposte to uncanny and it's not that bad.

[mossy sundial]

wait im keeping rampage?

[tulip trench]

charge light attack will stun any rager coming at you btw

[brisk lance]

Will the follow up non-charge attacks continue to stagger or no?

[cosmic sigil]

probably better than keeping riposte

[lethal lagoon]

Riposte and rampage are pretty equally mid, but at least rampage gives you horde clear for your surge.

[tulip trench]

dont think so, but you CAN get an extra light attack or 2 in, dodge back and do it again

[lethal lagoon]

Rampage + shred is actually pretty decent horde + anti-mutant for surge.

[mossy sundial]

i want flurry and nexus for surge right?

[lunar hollow]

[mossy sundial]

worth rolling with these stats?

[lunar hollow]

go for it

[spice veldt]

just spam special lights into ragers

you can spam special lights in succession faster than ragers get a swing off

[plucky flax]

More damage with ovenproof than default scoreboard.

[spice veldt]

and for normal situations, if you can afford the peril and space, just spam special heavies

[lunar hollow]

kickback is fair n balanced

[spice veldt]

no point in using the illisi if you're not going to spam the special

[mossy sundial]

i got fucking run n gun and terrifying barrage

[plucky flax]

Kickback was nerfed.

[lethal lagoon]

What are the perks?

[mossy sundial]

15% sprrint and 25 unarmored

[lethal lagoon]

Oof

[mossy sundial]

yup

[lunar hollow]

😔 ruined

[silk hawk]

It's your lucky brick

[plucky flax]

Do you like the new shovels? I don't like all these folding shovels both on vet and ogryn.

It's too much micro.

[lunar hollow]

i havent actually touched the vet shovels in a live game

[lethal lagoon]

I'm so used to force sword micro, that I like it.

[lunar hollow]

i like the new ogryn shovels although they are like super ridiculous

[lethal lagoon]

Problem is I fold the shovel too much out of habit.

[lunar hollow]

i've killed 4 maulers in one swing in a live game

which is just insanity

[mossy sundial]

this one isnt turning out so good either, plus im out of plasteel :3

[plucky flax]

I don't mind illisi special.

[lethal lagoon]

I think the damage might be too low on that one anyways.

[plucky flax]

Since it's fast and easy.

But these folding thing and then you get stuck for 1.5s and aaaaaa

[lunar hollow]

ogryn shovels are definitely on the slower end, and the special has punishing endlag even if you miss

[plucky flax]

Standard issue shovel just bonk.

[lunar hollow]

so u have to think a lil bit about how to use it

i love the old shovel

the punch is peak

[plucky flax]

They nerfed it too.

Can't believe slap is stronger than punch.

[lunar hollow]

can still stagger bosses with it somewhat consistently

nowhere near as effectively as before but u can do it with enough ppl hitting it/bull charging before the punch/etc

[lethal lagoon]

I've never seen such bad luck on surge, it has like 5 blessings available, and one is t2 only so hard to roll, that's rough brother.

[silk hawk]

Dis is what i use for surge, where i try to keep my stacks most of the time

[lunar hollow]

it is fairly ridiculous

[mossy sundial]

and this one's unsalvagable?

[lethal lagoon]

Do you have any blessings unlocked?

[mossy sundial]

i kinda cant believe that 4 days of leveling my zealot only gave me enough resources to do 3 transcendent weapons

if i did which ones would i want

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you can run some normal t5s with that surge build and have 2 more staves in 3 quick games.

normal t5s just aren't built for the new talent trees, they are pretty fast and most people are there to slurp up plasteel.

[mossy sundial]

when you say t5s you're talking about normal damnation right?

oh also where do recommend i put those 2 excess points in talent tree?

just get the two smite upgrades?

[rustic patio]

More warp charges never hurts

[lethal lagoon]

Smite upgrades are dookie.

And yes

Low int t5s even better, if coma-inducing.

[mossy sundial]

should i just get warp battery and wildfire?

[lethal lagoon]

Your general options are; 2 more warp charges, Kinetic deflection, More toughness, Battle Meditation, Emphatic Evasion,

Wildfire is fine too, not great, but fine.

Emphatic isn't that great either on surge, hence it was last in my list.

[mossy sundial]

hm maybe kinetic deflect

[rustic patio]

Prob not evasion with no crit stuff on the staff

[mossy sundial]

i just took more toughness C:

[gloomy magnet]

:3

[plucky flax]

[half iron]

like the shadow legend?

[plucky flax]

Legend27 or something.

[lethal lagoon]

I like your vids though, you should stream the next time Darktide has a big update

[mossy sundial]

and so the resource grinding begins

so not quickplay damnation, low intensity instead?

[lethal lagoon]

I mean you don't have to play normal damn, it's just the quickest way for plasteel

[mossy sundial]

then thats what i need

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, pick a quick mission too if it's up, like t5 Magi or warren

[mossy sundial]

i will die if i dont get a better surge roll tonight

thx for the help fellas

[silk hawk]

Play something fun, stop being resource grinder

Thats my advice...

[mossy sundial]

i can't have fun if my weapon rolls SUCK

it's disgusting just THINKING about them

i might try hm twins tho that sounds fun

[lethal lagoon]

Ooo, there's a melee only t5 mael at Magi atm.

[mossy sundial]

or maybe just damnation twins

[lethal lagoon]

It's the lower int one, so perfect

[potent echo]

I just quick play auric all day, is fun enough for me and I grind mats

[lethal lagoon]

Same. But you and me also have normal gear lmao

[silk hawk]

Ye, thats what i do too xD

[potent echo]

I think I only ever did one mael

[lethal lagoon]

Auric Maels are fun as fuck, I just wish fresh 30s would stop queueing for it.

it's too big on the screen lmao.

Auric maels

Normal t5 maels are fine for fresh 30s

[plucky flax]

Streaming seems more intensive my game would be leggy af.

Laggy

[bleak tulip]

fresh 30s are just lv26s with an image boost

usually they're dragging their feet

because they can't kill shit fast enough

[lethal lagoon]

I'm fine with one but when all three teammates are fresh... I just get tired unless I wanna try for a nice scoreboard.

[plucky flax]

Mfw I'm away from the 3 teammates picking plasteels and suddenly they all die

[potent echo]

The crusher menance

[spice veldt]

mfw i'm with my 3 teammates and suddenly they all die

[potent echo]

When pubs haven't figured out how to stop jumping mid fight

[spice veldt]

i'm on shout vet just to add survivability to my team

[mossy sundial]

is it normal that my surge takes two full charges to kill most elites or is that a result of my blessing rolls

[wicked hornet]

yeah that's what happens to me. I'll go get plasteel that's left behind and all hell lets loose.

[potent echo]

The only elite you kill in one charge is shotgunners

[plucky flax]

4 people in 1 place and 3 die? Sounds like it was your fault.

[potent echo]

Gunners need alot of help if you want to oneshot, or get a crit

[plucky flax]

Should have died with them.

[potent echo]

But new surge is so fast just shoot twice

[spice veldt]

no

[potent echo]

Unless you are facing 10 ragers then well, hope you have venting shriek

[spice veldt]

it's actually so sad when your team just dies to melee elite patrols

[plucky flax]

[potent echo]

Allergic to blocking

[spice veldt]

like this has consistently happened on my psyker when i decided to not bring the trauma staff so I decided to just play vet instead

[plucky flax]

What are dodge and block buttons?

We don't do that here.

[spice veldt]

where are my bleed for the emperor/until death zealots or ogryns

[wicked hornet]

I haven't done Auric yet. I think I'm going to start doing those.

[plucky flax]

That's so hard. I stay in sedition its comfy.

[potent echo]

Once you start playing hishocks, your perspective on the game will change massively

[harsh urchin]

tbh that's kinda why i stopped using purg

[potent echo]

Mainly CC is meaningless without damage

[harsh urchin]

cuz it does so poorly against those melee patrols

[potent echo]

Uh

[harsh urchin]

especially the 12 crusher one

[potent echo]

Purg trivialises all elites except crushers

Crushers you got your force sword to push

[plucky flax]

Purga against bulwarks and crushers pack walking down on the team.

[potent echo]

Deimos eats crushers for breakfast

[bleak tulip]

that's why I only ever run shouty plasma vet, basically just to smooth over the team skill gaps that might exist

and all I take for my service is every ammo pack I get to first

fair trade

[plucky flax]

Play columbus and onslaught. Pew pew crusher. Xd

[wraith talon]

same tho

sedition’s beautiful i don’t wanna leave

[spice veldt]

unbiased trade of course

[lunar hollow]

im ready

[bleak tulip]

absolutely

[wraith talon]

force sword?

[spice veldt]

u bitch

[wraith talon]

I thought everyone used the maccabian ngl

[bleak tulip]

the health enjoyer has logged on

[spice veldt]

who let you have health curios

[wicked hornet]

is toughness and health good to have on all curios for psyker?

[wraith talon]

broski is NOT dying

[mossy sundial]

i see now that i was really limiting myself by not using surge and only using void

[lunar hollow]

i fkin hate health stacking on ogryn. melk keeps selling me them anyways

i will not run this in a live game

[wraith talon]

i’d personally say not but idk

[spice veldt]

yeah, toughness and health as curio side perks are one of the better options

[bleak tulip]

I keep finding 21 on every class, but only have like one 17% toughness 😔

[wraith talon]

I feel like 90% of the time as psyker you wanna avoid damage

[lunar hollow]

😔

vet and ogryn i have 21%/17% curios on

[wraith talon]

but aren’t we always gonna be hella squishy?

[lunar hollow]

full sets i mean

[spice veldt]

o ok i approve of you again

[plucky flax]

I have 508 hp and 200+ toughness on my ogryn.

[lunar hollow]

on zealot i have some but not full sets

psyker i dont think i have any

[potent echo]

I always try to at least get 200hp at least, so you can survive more than 2 sniper or bursters

[spice veldt]

yeah, but we can always mitigate that

[potent echo]

The rest goes into toughness

[wraith talon]

fair enough

[wicked hornet]

well I got 250 HP is that wasted on psyker?

[spice veldt]

being squishy isn't a reason to lean away from getting more health or toughness

[wraith talon]

I’m guessing it gets rlly bad in damnation and auric

[plucky flax]

When I see vet or psyker with 150hp

[spice veldt]

if not a reason to get health/toughness in the first place

for me, health/toughness is a means for hit trading

[wraith talon]

I’m in this picture and I don’t like it

[lunar hollow]

i like 170+ toughness on psyker because u have such consistent toughness regen

[spice veldt]

and surviving danger scenarios like bursters/snipers

[potent echo]

Is hit trading a thing in darktide

[plucky flax]

It's funny when the team pick grimoires

[wraith talon]

Ngl my biggest pain is gunners

[spice veldt]

if i can trade more hp/toughness without much consequence, then i can just be more stupid and aggressive

[wraith talon]

When I’m charging them they like to focus me and stunlock me

[lunar hollow]

much less than in vt2 but depending on scenario yes

[spice veldt]

mostly ranged enemies and occasionally melee enemies if I want to focus down something at the risk of taking a melee hit

[wraith talon]

please don’t remind me 😭

[spice veldt]

like, if i've got 200 tough and i take a 50 damage hit, I can easily regenerate 25% of my toughness

[potent echo]

If you have full toughness then probably yea, but bruisers hit HARD

[lunar hollow]

with med stims and field improv both being things u can get away with some more idiocy than before

[spice veldt]

compared to if I only had 120 toughness

[wicked hornet]

is 110 toughness and 250hp bad?

[lunar hollow]

but uh, if u have low toughness it regenerates faster so u get a free hit sooner

checkmate LIBERAL

[potent echo]

No

[spice veldt]

die

[plucky flax]

Just find your own balance.

[wraith talon]

You’re not playing right if you don’t always give your brute your med stimm smh

[potent echo]

Uh aren't they all % based

[plucky flax]

Some prefer more toughness some more hp. But make sure you can survive burster and sniper.

[potent echo]

Except for coherency regen I guess

[lunar hollow]

all the toughness regen that matters yea

[spice veldt]

the dreaded group of people who rely on coherency regen

[lunar hollow]

its only coherency thats flat

(i was joking i am a toughness enjoyer)

[wicked hornet]

I survive those and I feel that works for me. I also run 1 curio with 3 stamina

[potent echo]

I never take stamina on psyker

Then I cry when I don't take KD

[harsh urchin]

depends on weapons tbh

[potent echo]

Force sword block is so bad lmao

[harsh urchin]

illisi and knife base stam is pretty low

[plucky flax]

I always take kd.

Big comfy crutch.

[wicked hornet]

I use the combat knife. Love the movement and single target. The stam curio helps with the low stam

[potent echo]

KD is free with DD, so is it actually a crutch

[plucky flax]

I don't take stamina with knife since I spam push attack anyway and my stam is always at 0% regardless.

[lunar hollow]

hell yeah

[half iron]

i used to use ws, then dd caught me by my [redacted]

[lunar hollow]

it makes getting out of stupid situations so much easier

[wraith talon]

fr?

huh

so wait tho

force sword or maccabian? what do you guys use

[harsh urchin]

i use every weapon lol

[wraith talon]

When I made my build I was using outdated reddit guides and YT vids for auric

[wraith talon]

based

[lunar hollow]

i pretty exclusively run ds4

but i have 1 psyker build i play nowadays

[harsh urchin]

i think my favs on psyker are knife, illisi, ds4 and dclaw

[spice veldt]

ds4 cuz i don't like the deimos combo

[wraith talon]

dueling sword 4?

[lunar hollow]

i get autistically angry when i see the h2 fling a crusher onto its side

[spice veldt]

ye

[lunar hollow]

my brain no like it

it shouldnt be happening

the crusher has less fkin raw stagger

[wicked hornet]

I like the movement speed and being able to rotate to help teammates or go get platsteel on the other side of the room or being left behind.

[near portal]

I basically got illisi and stuck with it. I wanna try some other stuff tho. But I love the heavy side to side attacks too much

[spice veldt]

and i prefer the snappiness of the ds4 special compared to force sword pushes

[spice veldt]

actual crime that they added this to the deimos

[wraith talon]

yea but if you get charged by a doug or mutie

DS4 lets you one tap them

and 2 tap a lot of bigger enemies

[harsh urchin]

umm

most melee weapons

[wraith talon]

wait wha

[harsh urchin]

can 1 shot a dog

[lunar hollow]

the dueling sword is just one of the hardest hitting single target melees in the game atm

[harsh urchin]

and 2 shot a mutant lol

[wraith talon]

oh

[wraith talon]

You only really get 1 shot on one charging you tho before having to dodge right?

[wicked hornet]

I have no issue with them, I just dodge and get a couple combs with the knife

[wraith talon]

And if you dodge your vet’s gonna drop it

if they didn’t already

[mossy sundial]

if this ends up rolling at least one good tier 4 blessing this is solid right?

[harsh urchin]

ye

[iron goblet]

how do the force swords compare to dueling swords?

[wraith talon]

oh what’s deimos

[near portal]

honestly the biggest draw of force swords for me is not pinging off armor when I use the alt fire. Just slides through enemies

[wraith talon]

i keep seeing people mention it

[harsh urchin]

surge is pretty easy to roll

[wicked hornet]

looks solid

[wraith talon]

gah damn

Watch hadron ruin it

[potent echo]

Which force sword

[wraith talon]

good luck o7

[mossy sundial]

hadron has already ruined 2 today

[wicked hornet]

o7

[wraith talon]

She ruined this godly VS i got the other day

[mossy sundial]

:C

[wraith talon]

i haven’t forgiven her 😭

[mossy sundial]

ok ok i got t3 warp flurry

not bad

20% dmg to carapace enemies too

[wraith talon]

not bad at all i think

[ornate hamlet]

anyone got good performance tips for a 2060

[wraith talon]

carapace are like the only ones my build struggles with

[mossy sundial]

ok i farm 500 more plasteel and then i get to see the last blessing

[wraith talon]

what’s that

[near portal]

Graphics card?

[ornate hamlet]

yeah

[potent echo]

Download more graphics options mod

[wicked hornet]

2060 GPU

[wraith talon]

that’s the worst feeling ever ngl

[mossy sundial]

yup.

[potent echo]

You can really make darktide into potatoes

[ornate hamlet]

that gave me more lag lol

[wraith talon]

so close and yet so far…

[potent echo]

How

[near portal]

I'm running this game on my 1070 duke still

[potent echo]

Just put your resolution at 640x480

[near portal]

Well, if you're really having framerate issues and your drivers are up to date and all that, probably start knocking stuff down in options. First things would probably be Shadows, not sure if it's the same for Dorktide

[wraith talon]

your funny words confuse me, computer people

[potent echo]

Owning a PC in 2023 is so shit

[ornate hamlet]

literally

[potent echo]

So expensive and still doesn't run properly

[near portal]

I just turn the magic box on and it keeps running idk. Praise omnissiah I guess*

[half iron]

hadron keeps ruining traumas and i just want the soulblaze blessing you meaniehead why do you want 10 more plasteel than i have

[mossy sundial]

im going to cry if this surge doesn't roll a t4 warp nexus

i'll even take t3

surely the difference between t3 and t4 isn't worth being upset about'

[potent echo]

Run and gun it is

[wraith talon]

you guys get mods tho

so it balances out

[potent echo]

Yea

No

[wicked hornet]

I lose sleep over having T3 instead of T4

[wraith talon]

Idek how to get more blessings faster 😭

[potent echo]

How about we get mods but also cheap performance

[wraith talon]

I only have like 4 and idk how to do it

[wraith talon]

wait wha

i mean like in games in general

[potent echo]

Visit milkman everyday

[wraith talon]

Like i started playing FNV for the first time and it’s so buggy

[potent echo]

He might have nice blessings

Yea games in general also run worse on PC than console

[wraith talon]

and peoples’ solutions are just install mods and i get jello of you computer ppl

[potent echo]

So you gotta pay more for similar performance

[wraith talon]

true that

I always heard the modern consoles have the same power as like a 2000 dollar pc

but i wanna go high end after I’m done paying for college

[potent echo]

PC is only the start

[wraith talon]

oh and also

[potent echo]

Then there's the display

[wraith talon]

wth is your pfp

[wraith talon]

don’t remind me 😓

gonna have to spend like another grand on accessories

[potent echo]

It builds up fast

[ornate hamlet]

just put it on again

lost like

10 fps

instantly lol

[potent echo]

You need to

Adjust the settings

It's called more graphic options

The mod might change some of your settings when you boot into it

[bleak tulip]

or just buy a good card and ignore the hyper specifics

[potent echo]

Just like

Spend

[bleak tulip]

I generally run DT at high to max setting at like 80fps during combat on a 3070

not exactly high roller here

[potent echo]

I run on low settings on my 3080

Give me 144hz or nth

[bleak tulip]

i like my game to look good too much

[lethal lagoon]

Should be fine on max settings without ray tracing

[potent echo]

Fine is like

60

That isn't fine

[bleak tulip]

I mean yeah the RT for DT is ass

[lethal lagoon]

Even withou ray tracing?

[potent echo]

In heavy combat it drops

Graphics card market is a scam right now

[hasty breach]

what curios do people run? i know the psyker athenium recommends a stamina curio, but i find if im blocking or doing tons of pushes (as opposed to surge or something) then it's kinda already a disaster. i find i die to chip damage from specials and gunners more than anything i could block. im considering trading +3 stam for health

[potent echo]

Even a 3080 cant run high DT on 144

[surreal eagle]

The 4070 is about $500 rn. Pretty good deal for graphics card

[lethal lagoon]

4070 is goomba

[potent echo]

If you live you US, it's reasonable

But most people don't live in the US

[wraith talon]

idk what that is but I’m gonna guess it’s good?

[hasty breach]

most people arent rich in the US either and it's unreasonable xD

[potent echo]

Perhaps

[lethal lagoon]

4070 prices went down when everyone realized how bad it having low vram was.

[wraith talon]

in Jersey, nothing’s reasonable 😭

like

[hasty breach]

computers expensive

so curios

[wraith talon]

real jersey, not the island

[potent echo]

Try to get 200hp, sniper does 97 damage with 20% sniper resist

[wraith talon]

what’s cram

vram

[potent echo]

So you don't die immediately after 1 wound

Other than that anything you want

Burster also does 100damage if you take it's epicenter damage

[lethal lagoon]

Primarily for loading graphics textures I believe, so if you have low vram you are mega fucked for all new games, even on low settings, if it's not optimized well.

No way to add more vram for the normal user like you can with ram either.

I don't know if nvidia is incompetent or on the apple planned obsolescence scam train.

[potent echo]

Could be, but also could be for whatever other reason

[wraith talon]

so that’s why the 4070’s bad?

[lethal lagoon]

I mean it's bad relatively speaking.

You are going to run most games well, but is it worth the price, meh.

[potent echo]

Its just a potential issue in the future

[wraith talon]

This is why I’m going prebuilt ngl

[potent echo]

Oh they gonna give you a 4070 for sure in a prebuilt

[wraith talon]

idk anything about parts or building electronic stuff

[potent echo]

At least that's how they are building the mid-high tier PCs in my area

[mossy sundial]

me in a couple seconds when i roll my staff and i get hit n run

[wraith talon]

you used your locks on the perks?

[wraith talon]

I’m using some site my friends recommended

[mossy sundial]

no i just havent seen the last blessing yet

[wraith talon]

oh

btw is there a way to get rid of locks

[mossy sundial]

TIER 4 WARP NEXUS

I'VE BEEN BLESSED

[wraith talon]

WHAT

NO WAY

LITERAL GOD ROLL

[mossy sundial]

HADRON MY BELOVED

[wraith talon]

the omnissiah looks over you

[mossy sundial]

what should i make my perks now?

[potent echo]

You can change both perks to anything, that's great

[surreal eagle]

I think it's a good value. But we are about to see a major overhaul in specs, processors will be utalizing AI cores and new architectures. In 2 years everyone is going to need an upgrade

[wraith talon]

Personally I like to add dmg to maniacs and carapace but idk what the community likes

[wraith talon]

Ohh I heard about using AI to upscale graphics or something

[mossy sundial]

hm seems like its flak and elite dmg

[wraith talon]

idk the technical bits tho

[potent echo]

Flak for sure, it's needed to oneshot shotgunners

10% elite brings you closer to 1 shotting scab gunner

[wraith talon]

Do you guys not run assail?

[patent wing]

whats up with the trauma staff and ragers wtf

[wraith talon]

wait wha

[patent wing]

i just blew 3 fúlly charged on the one hitting me and it didnt stagger

[wraith talon]

no way

that’s wild 😭

[patent wing]

ragequitted yes

xd

[wraith talon]

EHA

wha

[unkempt light]

Probably because Ragers who are in their combo have hyper armor/are a lot harder to stagger

[potent echo]

It might be the ragers hitting you and resetting your full charge

[wraith talon]

what’s hyper armor

[unkempt light]

I think the Force Sword shove can stagger them out of their combos but you wanna test that for real, I can't be sure

[potent echo]

Hyper armor is a catchall terms for stagger reduction

[wraith talon]

spamming heavies from DS4:

[wraith talon]

ohh

[unkempt light]

Yeah, sorry, what Guihelbie said

It's not a Darktide term, just how I know it as

[potent echo]

Trapper used to have a range stagger reduction of 10 lmao

[unkempt light]

Ragers are just harder to stagger once they start swinging

[patent wing]

no

[potent echo]

So any gun that does less than 10 stagger will never stagger a trapper

[mossy sundial]

so i'll do flak for the first perk, should the second be elite dmg or crit chance?

[patent wing]

ds4 special best stagger

[unkempt light]

Okay then, I must've been staggering those ragers before they properly got into their combos

[potent echo]

Illisi activation stops them

Deimos H2 flings them

Push attack also sends them to the floor

[patent wing]

100% no

[potent echo]

Test right now

[patent wing]

i just did

[potent echo]

Push attack

You gotta keep holding it

[patent wing]

after my trauma couldnt bring them down i tried the push

yeah im not stupid

[potent echo]

Definitely works

[lethal lagoon]

Oh noice, you got an almost perkfect surge staff.

On your 3rd try.

[mossy sundial]

yup C:

[potent echo]

I'm not at my PC now but anyone will tell you that

[lethal lagoon]

I don't wish you misfortune or anything like that

[potent echo]

Also push attack only affects 1 enemy

[mossy sundial]

teehee im very glad i got t4

thx for all the help earlier atlas C:

[patent wing]

also sometimes the trauma cant push down bulwarks or crushers thats really odd

the worst thing is u cant keep em down because their animation makes them immune

[potent echo]

Stagger in general is very borked in DT

[hasty breach]

rolling a trauma staff is nightmares

[potent echo]

Another source may just override whatever you did

[patent wing]

play trauma for cc
doesnt cc

[potent echo]

And some animations are just completely immune to CC

[patent wing]

and that sux

[potent echo]

You need that arcane knowledge on when and what

True wizard gaming

No one else understands

Incomparable minds

[wraith talon]

true that

[patent wing]

im going back to voidstrike
It at least works

[lethal lagoon]

Ye, lemme know how the surging goes on auric

[wraith talon]

I love it when I smite an enemy and nothing happens

[lethal lagoon]

I love it when I smite an enemy and my teammate misses their headshot 🙂

[potent echo]

Or you trauma an enemy, then someone smites it and makes him stand up again

[wraith talon]

Ngl void strike is so satisfying

[potent echo]

Good stuff

[patent wing]

thats also a classy one yes.
or a rager ignoring the cc after 2 seconds of freeze

[wraith talon]

watching it just carve a hole through hordes

[wraith talon]

ragers are the bane of my existence

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike has straight asmr sound design when it's not broken loud.

[wraith talon]

Esp when there’s a lot of them

[potent echo]

They need to give us more headshot staves

[patent wing]

i got a p good one with surge but unfortunately it has warp flurry

[lethal lagoon]

When it just pops a line of horde... so fucking nice.

[wraith talon]

what’s that

idrk the blessings ngl

[patent wing]

faster load speed

[wraith talon]

isn’t that good?

[patent wing]

crit chance better i think

[wraith talon]

assail’s great for headshots ngl

[wraith talon]

fair enough

I use some perks that give guarantee crit

bottom right of the tree just before the purples

[ornate hamlet]

ok so thanks for being useless

[potent echo]

You can lead a horse to water

[patent wing]

yeah same but i think it wears off pretty fast

[ornate hamlet]

and then i shoot it because horses are stupid

[spice veldt]

though it's aim-assist

a proper precision force staff would be real nice (voidstrike doesn't count)

[lethal lagoon]

Pretty sure you can use an IV to force feed a horse water.

[ornate hamlet]

i literally tweaked it

and used it for a while until recently

[potent echo]

You change the in-game graphics settings not the mod settings

[ornate hamlet]

yes i know

it adds the very low options

[lethal lagoon]

Also I ran max settings(no ray tracing) with smite on auric and had no issues on my 3080 @potent echo

[patent wing]

what also grinds my gears is that soulblaze does no dmg/stagger to carapace
i mean its burning THEIR SOULS

[lethal lagoon]

Might wanna do some trouble shooting.

[wraith talon]

i think it’s 5 weak shot hits guarantee a crit

[lethal lagoon]

It makes my shit run hot though, my office is too small for that

[potent echo]

What frame rate and where

[wraith talon]

spray assail into a crowd and hit a tankier one

repeat

[patent wing]

yeah but it only stacks like 3 sec?

[lethal lagoon]

120 auric t5, using smite, and uhhh, the vault mission.

I'll try a few more.

[wraith talon]

i don’t think it stacks at all or has a timer

it’s just based around the next hit

[lethal lagoon]

Honestly the updated graphics hurt my eyes, I remember now why I turned it down, too much contrast for my astigmatism.

[patent wing]

hm maybe im confusing here

[lethal lagoon]

I had to turn down global illumunation

Smite was blinding

[patent wing]

smite would be great if it would work and not some enemies breaking free suddenly

[wraith talon]

ngl soulblaze needs a buff

[potent echo]

Then it isn't max , or did you mean you turned it down after

[wraith talon]

it’s so smuseless

[lethal lagoon]

Both worked fine

[potent echo]

Bloom is also horrible

[wraith talon]

ngl it’s awesome when the flamethrowers literally blind you

[lethal lagoon]

I doubt global illumination being high or low would alter it that much 🤷‍♂️

[wraith talon]

and then a mutie grabs you through the flames

[patent wing]

funnily you can apply max sb stacks and then switch to rending melee and then your SB will deal true dmg

[lethal lagoon]

I use custom flames mod

[patent wing]

best and only mod im using

[marble pebble]

Can't burn something the heretics do not have sibling

[wraith talon]

never tried ngl

[quasi junco]

any1 kinda hate bubble on lights out maps? It honestly makes your vision worse

[lethal lagoon]

Might wanna mess with some virtual cores on your CPU

Those can fuck up performance

[potent echo]

Oh I forgot, what resolution

[wraith talon]

wait light’s out?

[patent wing]

yeah unfortunately its good only in theory

[lethal lagoon]

2560, 1440

[wraith talon]

oh

[quasi junco]

yea i only see it on auric

[wraith talon]

sadge

[wraith talon]

damn

[potent echo]

Hmm same

[wraith talon]

sounds cool

[potent echo]

Guess I'll take a look again

[quasi junco]

the bubble makes it even harder to see cuz the purple haze

[lethal lagoon]

Look up how to make Elden Ring stop stuttering, and try the same fix for Darktide.

[quasi junco]

play veteran on lights out with a lasgun is great, feels like you are playing doom

[potent echo]

I don't get stutters

It's dips below 100 sometimes

[lethal lagoon]

Stutters, lagging, etc, I'm just general terming.

Just below 100, or like down to 50, 40, 30 etc?

[ornate hamlet]

has anyone

gotten darktide to run on dxvk

ive heard one guy do it

[iron goblet]

How do the powerswords compare to dueling blades?

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean force swords?

[patent wing]

i just got 3 bosses at nce lol

[iron goblet]

yes those 🙂

lore fail

[lethal lagoon]

Illy is horde clear, Deimos is the force version of mk4 dueling sword.

Obscurous is obscurely left behind in the past.

[iron goblet]

ahh k, interesting

[wraith talon]

wait wha

[lethal lagoon]

Demios vs mk4 is largely personal preference, but mk4 probably wins out after they nerfed the unlimited dodges.

[patent wing]

imagine if we had a sword with lmb ilisi and rmb with h2 of deimos

[wraith talon]

huh

intéressant

[lethal lagoon]

They serve the same the role is what I mean

[iron goblet]

does that dashing thing work with the force swords? lets you zoom really quick

[wraith talon]

but doesn’t power sword have extra utility

[lethal lagoon]

Nein.

[wraith talon]

i’m fast asf with my mk4

[marble pebble]

ii gotta admit something

[lethal lagoon]

You have deflector and peril gen, which can be useful

[marble pebble]

im growing addicted to devils claw weapons

the parry is so fun

especially parrying bosses and crushers

[iron goblet]

ahh k. Is it in general just another option to mk4 or superior in some regards

[wraith talon]

wait it causes peril gen?

nvm I pop my brain enough as is

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, demios special and deflector generate peril

That's largely seen as a benefit

[wraith talon]

wait why

[iron goblet]

to do more dmg?

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek, toughness gen talents, peril = damage or toughness DR.

[wraith talon]

I only really switch to my maccabian during a horde and i’m on high peril anyway

[wraith talon]

ohhh i forgot about that

[iron goblet]

How's Brain burst go in higher difficulties. I'm just leveling in T2-T3 atm lvl 24. With Assail, it's a bit brainless. Was thinking of swapping once i hit 30

Seems like i'll lose my ability to clear hordes?

[quartz barn]

Depends on your staff/gun

[quasi junco]

brain burst is good even in auric if you take purg/trauma staff

[lethal lagoon]

It's clearly suboptimal, but it's usable because the game simply isn't hard enough.

[quasi junco]

might need EP tho

[iron goblet]

ahh k, what pairs better with void? I am enjoying that

[lethal lagoon]

Void and BB have a ton of crossover.

[quartz barn]

Either bb or assail

[wraith talon]

yea i always heard assail

[lethal lagoon]

Assail is solid because it handles ranged mobs, which void is slow for.

[quartz barn]

I run bb but ive seen people say they pref assail as vood is more single target

[iron goblet]

excellent. I was thinking the ability that procs BB on attack would work on what the void hits?

[wraith talon]

also drops specs before your vet has a chance to steal them

[quartz barn]

However, you can addclear with void on its own by alligning yourself with the horde

[lethal lagoon]

A good vet should beat assail travel time, so that's on him.

[iron goblet]

yeah, gotcha. just gotta l2aim

[wraith talon]

imo it’s too random to be viable

[iron goblet]

good to know

[wraith talon]

i used to run it but half the time it pops on a random cannon fodder

and not on something that actually needs it

[lethal lagoon]

Kinetic flayer is largely useless outside of melee maelstrom

[iron goblet]

ahh k, since it does a lot of dmg

void that is

[wraith talon]

yea i love using it

[lethal lagoon]

With void you are already stretched for points because you need true aim

[wraith talon]

the whole orb clear is hella strong

[wraith talon]

true that

[lethal lagoon]

So stuff like kinetic flayer is absolutely a no go

[wraith talon]

void and assail compliment each other there tho

[wraith talon]

true

I usually run ahead to get a few spec kills and fall back before I’m swarmed

[marble pebble]

i tried assail but like

i dunno, its not very fun

[quartz barn]

I do the exact opposite and sit it the back

[marble pebble]

love smite too much

[wraith talon]

true that

[quartz barn]

That way i can solo the specials + horde coming from behind on ny own

[wraith talon]

I run warp charge so it forces you to get spec kills

or else you rely on rng

[quartz barn]

And void can still support from ranged

Ye i do too

[wraith talon]

it’s kinda funny watching void tear an enemy in half

[lime creek]

Lightning staff fun to run with assail

[wraith talon]

I always find it super annoying not having full charge tho

you’re missing out on so much dmg and peril resist

[quartz barn]

Eh i dont notice it as much

Besides, if there is a big horde you get your stacks up anyway

[wraith talon]

smite’s fun but it’s kinda cool just solo horde clearing

[wraith talon]

true

[marble pebble]

i prefer letting the others have the fun

me ?

[wraith talon]

unless the rng gods hate you

[marble pebble]

im having fun being emperor palpatine

[wraith talon]

that’s the best part

I wish they had voicelines referencing him

“So that’s how it feels to have unlimited power”

“The void is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural”

[plucky flax]

Wth chainaxe on zealot kinda big damage

[marble pebble]

Zealot.

[lime creek]

My characters personality is that of a heretic. Saying things like the emperah is just a really strong psyker. Or the inquisitors right hand man is not to be trusted. Completely heretical none sense. I’m tempted to make a new psyker and have the crazy personality so atleast I’m not a heretic. But I have some great weapon rolls so it’s gonna hurt a lot to make the swap.

[vestal fulcrum]

That’s with stacked buffs, though.

[wraith talon]

ewww

heresy

[vestal fulcrum]

Don’t get me wrong though - the damage chaxe deals is still good

Very good in fact

[plucky flax]

Tru although in normal game condition I should have 5 headtaker stacks.

And it should still do 4 shots on crusher.

[wraith talon]

damn mine is the exact opposite

she’s like super patriotic

[vestal fulcrum]

My Vet kills a Crusher in a (heavy) Rev attack and 2 light attacks IIRC

[lime creek]

What personality?

[wraith talon]

savant i think

i picked girlypop for the french accent

[plucky flax]

On zealot I don't think I'll even need to rev.

Maybe only against monsters.

The attack speed with martyrdom is fast.

I'll take it for a spin soon was just goofing around testing stuff. RIP plasteels I only have 3k left.

[lime creek]

Then I must make the ultimate sacrifice. My demigod rolls of weapons, gone. To prove I’m not a heretic. For da emperah

[vestal fulcrum]

Yeah, I mostly Rev things just to apply bleed, and sometimes commit to it for a the feeling of “cool”

[wraith talon]

Luv me emprah, luv me imprium, simple as

[wraith talon]

cool factor’s underrated asf ngl

like we have a badass slide and nobody even uses it 😭

[vestal fulcrum]

It’s just not optimal to hold the Rev for its entire duration, sometimes

I don’t use special attacks on Deimos for the very same reason

It’s easier to poke things in head with H2 and kill them that way, and also it’s waaay safer

[plucky flax]

Does rev apply all stacks of bleed instantly?

So just rev and dodge away.

[vestal fulcrum]

It should as soon as it sticks, yes