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#psyker-class
summer prairie
10
vestal fulcrum
So you technically should be able to hit 2
potent echo
summer prairie
the twins only have 4 mass
next zephyr
ionic needle
Any suggestions here?
next zephyr
ionic needle
Thinking about going shred -> uncanny
vestal fulcrum
Any suggestions here?
Pick whichever blessing you like more and switch the one you don’t like to Uncanny Strike is the way I would solve it
I’d probably pick Riposte, personally, but it’s largely preference
strong gulch
Any suggestions here?
Riposte to uncanny and cara to maniac is going to get you closest to meta.
ionic needle
What are the meta blessings for it?
strong gulch
What are the meta blessings for it?
Perks are maniac + unyielding
blessings are uncanny + shred
summer prairie
why maniac
summer prairie
you still aren't one-shotting
ionic needle
Mutants are very easy to deal with without it though
And for dreg ragers I usually pull out my ranged anyway
summer prairie
if you have literally every buff, maybe
strong gulch
It's a tiny bit of damage + a heavy
potent echo
I don't think you can one shot after mutants got rebuffed again
On a headshot crit for sure
summer prairie
with every buff you can but it's not reasonable
potent echo
High DD also does it
summer prairie
mettle+6 wc+high peril does it but that's just an artificial scenario
potent echo
Mettle gives damage buffs?
summer prairie
perfect timing
ionic needle
wtf is this now, special assignment??
summer prairie
it does, i'm just stupid and looking at my buffs
potent echo
dim current
No shotguns on psyker, my build idea is ruined ;-;
potent echo
F
dim current
Here’s to hoping
dim parrot
I fight everything with my illisi
coarse bane
summer prairie
oh no update for it, zzz
tough gust
pretty good surge staff. wat do u guys think?
glossy ember
pretty good surge staff. wat do u guys think?
bretty good
dim parrot
goody brett
glossy ember
they be a little thicc
royal granite
the what is now live?
summer prairie
zzz since it's just normal damnation
summer prairie
it's easier than normal damnation maybe even
royal granite
need to make whoever's in charge of boss design play some ff14 or something, these things are all slog-fests
primal ibex
is there some advantage to brainburst?
spikes seems stronger against most enemies and peril they generate is less
I like the idea not sure if its storng tho
royal granite
is there some advantage to brainburst?
spikes seems stronger against most enemie...
assail is useless against carapace and kinda slow at long range
glossy ember
need to make whoever's in charge of boss design play some ff14 or something, the...
raid mechs 
royal granite
but you're right, bb isn't amazing
primal ibex
assail is useless against carapace and kinda slow at long range
ok thx
primal ibex
but you're right, bb isn't amazing
yeah
takes long to use and I end up at 40% after one use
would love to use it if it was cheaper
could work like sniper option
royal granite
basically bb is relegated to purgatus builds right now, but purgatus ALSO isn't very good lol
near wyvern
is there some advantage to brainburst?
spikes seems stronger against most enemie...
You use it if you need a far range option when playing purge on left side talents or fire trauma but that's about it
near wyvern
basically bb is relegated to purgatus builds right now, but purgatus ALSO isn't ...
Depends how you play it
It's still strong, people just rend to over flame things and waste DPS
royal granite
well purgatus isn't BAD, it's just outclassed by every other staff
near wyvern
I have a video coming up with it to show
I wouldn't say it's out classed
Has more control than void
near wyvern
Not really, just use a combat knife 6
royal granite
and it's not as strong of an option on psyker as flamer is on zealot, since zealot just has flat out better melee options
not that this is bad
near wyvern
Also purge is one of Psykers top monstrosity DPS options and it's fucking easy to use
near wyvern
It has both low skill floor and high skill ceiling
royal granite
eyeballing when you've applied enough burn is a pain
near wyvern
The QC is painfully different from other staves since they changed some QC timings and if you can get the sense of when you have flamed enough you are going to be golden. Just apply some movement tech shenanigans and dominate.
royal granite
but wasted dps also happens from conditions outside of your control
near wyvern
eyeballing when you've applied enough burn is a pain
It's really not, 1 pump is enough to kill all weaker mobs
And LMB QC is easy to count
royal granite
QC?
near wyvern
Quell Cancel
potent echo
1 pump is enough for me
near wyvern
Almost doubles your fire rate with LMB
royal granite
1 pump champ
near wyvern
royal granite
that's an interesting way to use it, not for me
near wyvern
Like I said, easy to use but lot of little things you can do to elevate it
near wyvern
pygex did u see my ping
Yes it's already in Atheneum
glossy ember
poggies
royal granite
i am not seeing one pump killing these chumps
near wyvern
1 pump as in fully charged RMB you silly
1 stack of soulblaze is only pretty visuals nothing else
royal granite
hey you mentioned rmb earlier i got confused
anyway fully charged seems like overkill
royal granite
see now we're hitting issues with eyeballing
especially if you've got a mixed horde
and trash is mobile, which means you're often going to have to sweep the same area multiple times as new mobs file in
summer prairie
nice got a boss wall in the special mission but no boss spawn
royal granite
boss wall?
summer prairie
invisible wall we cant get through
royal granite
sick
violet oak
invisible wall we cant get through
dream it away
royal granite
oh cool this bug again
anyway yeah idk about purgatus, devoting your main weapon to clearing trash feels odd to me
crisp zephyr
anyway yeah idk about purgatus, devoting your main weapon to clearing trash feel...
its not about trash its about clearing the mixed hordes that have ragers and shotgunners maybe even maulers in them where purgatus excels same with the zealots flamer
near wyvern
and trash is mobile, which means you're often going to have to sweep the same ar...
This is where wildfire comes in
Yeah LMB QC controls all except Bulwakrs, Crushers and Mutants
And compared to Trauma it doesn't fling shit around so it's a lot harder to fuck up your zealots intentions
I still think Trauma is meta over purgarus but just to show what are the benefits of using purgatus
royal granite
again i don't think it's bad, i just think i'd rather be more flexible
vestal fulcrum
Yeah LMB QC controls all except Bulwakrs, Crushers and Mutants
How can this be set up conveniently on say, a mouse with multiple buttons? I assume that the default Reload key won’t cut it
If you also want to do movement tech and the like while also doing the QC
vestal fulcrum
I wonder if I could make a macro for Purgatus specifically…
plucky flax
Purga is worst staff for psyker.
vestal fulcrum
So what
royal granite
purga is the worst abbreviation for purge
vestal fulcrum
And Surge isn’t as good as Trauma/VS, yet people use it
glossy ember
surge is goated with the sauce fr fr
plucky flax
It's just that. Not saying it's unplayable. Just the worst out of our 4 staves.
spice veldt
see now we're hitting issues with eyeballing
you can download the Debuff Indicator mod to indeed see that sweeping your mouse around applies the same amount of Soulblaze in a larger area
royal granite
surge is goated with the sauce fr fr
the sauce in question
vestal fulcrum
It could be classified as the worst, but a rating in a vacuum doesn’t really do it justice
plucky flax
royal granite
you can download the Debuff Indicator mod to indeed see that sweeping your mouse...
game gets way too noisy for me very quickly with ui mods like that
strong gulch
I love the quality of life and accessibility of mods, but I hate needing to rely on them.
royal granite
yeah
royal granite
i grabbed the scoreboard for fun, more than that and it starts feeling like too much work
strong gulch
Like the croshair remap makes shooting and LMB playable for me.
glossy ember
royal granite
not ketchup <:DESPAIR:979279856024055828>
i picked the worst sauce i could think of
glossy ember
based
hate ketchup
i need the spicy goodness on my fries so gotta be mustard at the minimum
plucky flax
I use spider sense mod because I am hard of hearing. 
strong gulch
i picked the worst sauce i could think of
There's worse.
royal granite
LMAO
glossy ember
I use spider sense mod because I am hard of hearing. <a:peepoCryfade:75710717066...
secretly spiderman
glossy ember
There's worse.
wtf
royal granite
I use spider sense mod because I am hard of hearing. <a:peepoCryfade:75710717066...
completely fair use of mods
glossy ember
strong gulch
I saw it in the store one day and had a moment. I could not process what I had seen.
royal granite
reminds me of shitty nerds losing their shit when that one graphics card came out with integrated accessibility shit for hard of hearing people that made sound cues visible on screen
"it's basically wallhacks" so is having normal ears in a game with good audio, dipshit, if you're not making use of it that's on you
plucky flax
secretly spiderman
royal granite
...anyway, darktide eh
bleak tulip
fun fact, you process audio cues faster than visual ones anyway
royal granite
yep
bleak tulip
so its not even an advantage
royal granite
you can go below 200ms on audio cues
super important in fighting games
oh yeah that's the other thing i wanted to mention, i don't want to learn tech for this game
plucky flax
Ooh sonicfox a really good fighting game player played a show match with a celebrity and won while blinded folded.
Using audio cue only.
royal granite
i don't think it's hard enough to warrant putting in actual work, save that shit for fighting games
love sonicfox
gilded tartan
Buff smite tbh
royal granite
won a tournament once while wearing the headpiece of their fursuit
plucky flax
royal granite
too bad they only play games i don't give a shit about lol
glossy ember
I saw it in the store one day and had a moment. I could not process what I had s...
i'd argue it's as bad as some "pickle" sauces
royal granite
at least competitively
royal granite
i guess no salt ketchup could be for people with medical conditions or something
strong gulch
This is true.
glossy ember
https://youtu.be/nx8Z7-ftWPU
Pretty sure there was an actual blind MK9 player that played competitively.
royal granite
things like that are often marketed at people without those medical conditions so it'll make more money
there's a couple blind players in the tournament scenes for a few games
strong gulch
But also there was a fast food spaghetti place that was popular with many top reviews praising the sweet sauce.
umbral helm
oh yeah that's the other thing i wanted to mention, i don't want to learn tech f...
I take the time to learn about it enough to know why it helps, just because I like knowing things, but I never make use of the information. it's also beneficial for me to learn in games like Souls where I do invasions and the like, so I know to how to fight against it. albeit, the "competitive" community likes to refer to it as "tech" when really it's just... exploits. like estus canceling for infinite healing
royal granite
tech in souls games is fucked lmao
strong gulch
I lack the kind of brains and reflexes needed to be "great at games". That's ok tho.
royal granite
i am not good at games because of innate talent, i am good at games because i'm too disabled to work and it's all i spend my time on
umbral helm
tech in souls games is fucked lmao
a lot of it is people wanting to make something that wasn't meant to be competitive, competitive. the fact there even is a competitive PvP community for those games is, well. calling them special is the nice way of putting it
royal granite
i used to know a bunch of people in the competitive souls pvp community, those people are constantly miserable
strong gulch
oh bet.
royal granite
only thing we can do for them is try to gently steer them towards fighting games
violet oak
There is no point in trying to save the lost and damned souls siblings
umbral helm
I just invade with my silly builds and kill them anyway. been doing it since Demon Souls. much like how I run my silly builds in aurics and win anyway. it's not complicated
near wyvern
How can this be set up conveniently on say, a mouse with multiple buttons? I ass...
I just use the default R and usually use W and A for moving either forward or left but if you are really sweaty about it a macro will make your life so much easier. Like there is no reason to not quell cancel the LMB on purge so you could just make a profile and replace your LMB with LMB QC.
EDIT: Oh wait there is RMB, I guess you need to a separate button after all, cause purge RMB is no point to QC.
royal granite
they don't have to play fighting games for long, just long enough to get them into the FGC retirement home (ff14)
royal granite
I just invade with my silly builds and kill them anyway. been doing it since Dem...
i have been saying this for months
umbral helm
half of it is honestly because I like seeing if it can work, and it's funny when it does
vestal fulcrum
I just use the default R and usually use W and A for moving either forward or le...
Noted, I'm not super sweaty, just super curious, but I really like to make things easier for myself if I can help it :P
plucky flax
I played purga recently without any left click quell cancel cos I'm lazy and purga is the chill staff for brains off.
umbral helm
it's fine, they don't need their eyes anyway. it's all audio cues, isn't it?
just a skill issue if they can't avoid it, clearly
royal granite
we don't need eyes to see where we're going, sibling
plucky flax
near wyvern
I played Dark Souls 3 and then I went into invading and dueling. The moment I hit gold in duels I just quit cause at the top levels it's about the knowledge of gimmics. The goal is go abuse a gimmick of your choice while avoiding to get abused by your enemies gimmick.
I did mine with Lucerne + the counter attack ring and had a Lothric Knight sword + shield for when I could not poise through with Lucerne special i.e. against two hander swords.
It made ranking up super fast cause no one new about that gimmick. The whole point was to trade with the special which counts as thrust attack so you proc the Leo ring and usually one shot the enemy.
If that didn't finish up the job then 80% of the time they panic and a simple running attack timed to the end of the roll finished the job.
royal granite
hell yes
umbral helm
I played Dark Souls 3 and then I went into invading and dueling. The moment I hi...
yeah, the problem there is you went all meta with it, which gets stale quick. also, a lot of people view invasions and duels as the same thing, for some reason
eager mantle
violet oak
What level looks that good
lusty dagger
not bad
royal granite
see what i did for duelling in dark souls 3 was optimize the shit out of my forbidden sun/chaos bed vestiges, whatever the name was, and then figure out exactly how many steps i had to take to be able to reach and one-shot people while they were buffing
i got so much hatemail
eager mantle
Lmao hate mail in souls pvp. Jank ass netcode and hitstun and ppl take it seriously
royal granite
yeah, good times
umbral helm
"1 honor is worth approximately 7 embers"
ds3 was a good time. spent about 4k hours invading on just it alone, not even counting the others.
eager mantle
Got hate mail in Elden Ring with my dual cold/bleed whips in coliseum
royal granite
peak elden ring invader is "i have no idea what the fuck these things are for" drops 99 rune arcs on the floor
the arena in elden ring looked so joyless to me, never even tried it
umbral helm
I mostly have gimmick builds, in ER. my magnum opus is one that throws pots that I've named Jarlsby Quiggles
went through the whole game at about level 30 and not upgrading any weapons or anything that way, just using pots. pretty much up until the final boss, need to still go and fight him at some point
I mostly terrorize people in Limgrave with him, they don't expect a pot at that level to evaporate their health. it's mostly a skill check. "can you press the dodge button in a vague window. Y/N"
umbral helm
done similar stuff. pretty much all my things are at level 30. made a deathblight build once. it was fun turning people into trees
anyway, darktide stuff
royal granite
what the fuck is darktide
royal granite
average auric maelstrom run
silk hawk
https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-frone-explode-dies-gif-14493096138927684504
a secret plan of the imperium in case of bombs shortage
fresh reef
Finally got a decent roll on the new knife
runic hornet
do people still think voidstirke is "over nerfed"
fresh reef
Only problem is now I have 53 Plasteel lol
runic hornet
still seems busted to me
fresh reef
It's in a good spot imo
runic hornet
i mean I can hold one side of horde, the other ogyrn holds the other side, and the voidstrike wipes both sides of hyperconcentration we create
summer prairie
wiped at the hard mode boss, sad
plucky flax
Void is okay not my top 2.
im revoking your schizophrenia license
sinful peak
voidstrike the goat
bleak tulip
Void is okay not my top 2.
bleak tulip
do people still think voidstirke is "over nerfed"
ngl I pull those numbers with zealot and ogryn too
ionic needle
wiped at the hard mode boss, sad
hard mode?
potent echo
its easy to top numbers with void
idle aurora
hard mode?
Secret one, that's above damnation
umbral helm
heresy? 
onyx sentinel
what's this about secret bells and pictures
summer prairie
7 bells and numbers on the wall that indicate how many times you ring them
for the hard version of the boss fight
tough gust
do we get anything for beating the hard mode
summer prairie
penance and stuff
mental rock
I think for purge Crit chance may be the way to go for one perk, not sure though
vale nacelle
Crit/Flak I think
quasi grotto
quasi grotto
it's too bad i'm kinda crap on it haha, maybe this'll give me incentive
undone jungle
For the warp battery penance if i drop to 3 warp charges does it reset to 0 again?
undone jungle
damn this is hard
summer prairie
there we go
undone jungle
ok nvm got it lmao
silver portal
Armory shop guy is cookin
summer prairie
cloud heron
Armory shop guy is cookin
Theres still plenty of chances for hadron to ruin it
silver portal
oh tru lmao ima run it rn
vast yew
strong gulch
<@165926681331236865> :L
The blessings.
vast yew
RIP the godroll; Blazing Spirit -> Uncanny is a must, after that...
strong gulch
Uncanny + slaughterer or deflector + slaughterer
vast yew
It's a Deimos; Uncanny is mandatory
Does Exorcist trigger if you special attack someone's head? that could be... kind of funny
dang Hadron why you do this
strong gulch
If that's how you want to roll then yeah.
vast yew
<@165926681331236865> :L
what's it show for damage on a Heavy 2 Maniac Headshot?
umbral helm
Does Exorcist trigger if you special attack someone's head? that could be... kin...
I know it counts for stacking other things that require repeated weakspot hits, such as uncanny, albeit inconsistently sometimes. so, yes in theory
silver portal
what's it show for damage on a Heavy 2 Maniac Headshot?
1079
strong gulch
Idk if the special triggers it. I don't see why it wouldn't.
There are multiple tiks of damage; so it'd be neat if each tik had a chance to trigger exorcist.
vast yew
well if you want to one-shot mutants with 0 extra buffs you'd need to bump the Maniacs up to a T4, but honestly with 1 warp charge or 25% Peril + Warp Rider you get there anyways
personally yeah I'd swap the blessings to Uncanny + Deflector
and then keep it for whenever FatShark finally lets us unlock the locks on weapons
late yew
is new mission time limited?
orchid shadow
I think it's just the stimms that are time limited
late yew
I think it's just the stimms that are time limited
... no, that's stupid assumption
surreal eagle
it's too bad i'm kinda crap on it haha, maybe this'll give me incentive
Spam the charge attack 3x really fast and then charge it all the way with flurry.
orchid shadow
... no, that's stupid assumption
Oh, woops. It looks like it might be the Karnak ambushes that are time-limited
glossy ember
you COULD keep quell on hit bro...
and instead change the crit rate to something else
glossy ember
Does Exorcist trigger if you special attack someone's head? that could be... kin...
if uncanny triggers multiple time then so would exorcist
i'd keep the quell on hit blessing personally and get unyielding or carapace or flak over crit rate
and run scrier
vast yew
He's gone mad with power
vale nacelle
Throw shred on (if it’s even a FS blessing) and be the true critblaze psyker you were meant to be
strong gulch
I've done illisi with blazing spirit + exorcist + SG. It's silly.
glossy ember
i'd keep the quell on hit blessing personally and get unyielding or carapace or ...
actually i'd run carapace for maulers/crushers.
strong gulch
Fun fact. If you want to test a lower tier perk but you currently have that perk applied in a higher tier, you have it to change to an entirely different type of perk and THEN change to the lower tier perk. Bet it's the same for blessing too.
quasi grotto
does true aim work on purgatus?
strong gulch
Purg can't accumulate true aim stacks, but it can consume the guarantee to crit for a tik of damage.
quasi grotto
aw that's too bad
strong gulch
I guess purg can technically proc true aim stacks with the bonk. 🙃
late yew
Oh, woops. It looks like it might be the Karnak ambushes that are time-limited
It says nothing about time limits
snow coral
that was weird, I tried to play the twins on damnation but it flipped it to uprising
glossy ember
Purg can't accumulate true aim stacks, but it can consume the guarantee to crit ...
is the crit the whole rmb duration tho
👀
or just one tick of rmb
strong gulch
or just one tick of rmb
1 tik
glossy ember
f
strong gulch
Imagine if true aim caused crit strings.
orchid shadow
it says aabout them appearing on normal missions
Yeah. So it looks like the mission stays, and it's just the encounter that will stop after a time.
snow coral
what is this secret hard mode?
late yew
lmao, what a bunch of pussies
first time i see 3 peopel leaving the moment something goes bad
quasi grotto
what is this secret hard mode?
snow coral
thanks
orchid nest
I equipped my most op loadout for the hardmode - ogryn 
subtle tulip
out of all classes, I'm struggling with psykers against the twins. I'm thinking purg staff build but eh w/e
guess its just a skill issue
lethal lagoon
Surge unyielding with some extra toughness gen nodes maybe
unkempt light
I did it with my Trauma + Zapping Shield build, worked for me
Team was part of why it worked, I feel. I was a smidge drunk 
late yew
Ep smite proves superiority again
glossy ember
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310
this is too big for my brain
snow coral
damn the twins are hard on damnation
I've got the columnus gunker build and it does work on the shields but we keep getting overwhelmed around what I think is the halfway point of the final battle
late yew
I've got the columnus gunker build and it does work on the shields but we keep g...
smite really helps a lot
snow coral
yeah I might have to switch back to a smite build and run CC so everyone else can focus
not sure that dome is really useful in that run since there aren't a ton of gunners
maybe smite and warp fury to stack soulblaze?
lethal lagoon
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2995700310
Is this confirmed?
vocal cliff
It es conformed
snow coral
i hit the first couple and the numbers matched
the lobby didn't want to do it thought so I had to stop because they were leaving me behind
vocal cliff
Well not by fatshark theyselves but es the guide to the hard mode
rare storm
Was there a reward for killing the twins during the event time? Does anyone knpw
vocal cliff
Ambushes? Nay
ornate hamlet
maybe smite and warp fury to stack soulblaze?
If Zealot runs Relic, then switching Dome to Warp Stack is best.
snow coral
yeah that's what I'm thinking
cunning yew
Ran damnation hardmode twins with surge staff, brain burst and shriek and it went well
velvet crypt
Do i change anythingo n this?
fading iris
Don't forget to +++ SPREAD THE WORD +++ 
rare storm
Do i change anythingo n this?
it r bricked sir
But if anything, changed sustained and ranged dmg
velvet crypt
it r bricked sir
dangit. what would be the better blessings tho?
velvet crypt
yeah i was following that. i just made back most of my mats after crafting for my zealot.
rare storm
yeah i was following that. i just made back most of my mats after crafting for m...
Yee you can see which you prefer
Blazing is good ass hording
Rending for team player lul
rich rose
Switched up my assail and now sporting a Surge staff, Illisi mkV sword and it seems to balance out keeping me at the top of the list
royal vessel
do the blessings from the staves apply to all of the staves?
i. e. if I let go of a surge staff to get warp nexus 4 can I use it on all staves?
near wyvern
i. e. if I let go of a surge staff to get warp nexus 4 can I use it on all stave...
Nope, gotta collect them all separately
near wyvern
Depends on the weapon
royal vessel
near wyvern
Surge has only 3 tier 4 blessings so if you need something a bit more rare I would pass on this but if you have a lot melk bucks why not
You can use pro gamer move when crafting Surge if you get decent perks and roll the first blessing onto terrifying barrage at purple, that way if the second blessing rolls T4 it's guaranteed to become Nexus or Flurry and then you can swap the terrifying barrage into the other.
rare storm
btw pygex do you know if rending shockwave affects shields of the twins and scav bosses?
near wyvern
Haven't tested
proven stirrup
Every time I try any of the new content the network connection shits itself halfway in and costs me the run
orchid nest
surge staff might be good against the shield if it still ignores all the resistance and stuff due to the previous changes but it's still probably better to melee it
stable leaf
I beat the mission with a DS4 and purge staff. The purge dealt with the hordes that showed up during the fight pretty well and the sword gave me good boss damage. I also had empowered psionics brain rupture to quickly deal with specials that showed up.
Also kinetic deflection helped a lot when Rinda started coming for my ass
near wyvern
chainsword but what staff
Why would you ever use chainsword on a psyker, there are a lot better alternatives.
echo frigate
Can I fix this?
patent wing
Why would you ever use chainsword on a psyker, there are a lot better alternativ...
is best waveclear + high single target
near wyvern
Can I fix this?
Groaner into maniac and upgrade flurry to t4
Will be fun against hordes
echo frigate
is best waveclear + high single target
No, that's the deimos or mk4 dueling sword
Also the illisi is crazy good as well
echo frigate
Chainsword doesn't really have a place for any character
near wyvern
Best wave clear up my ass this sibling haven't tried slaughter uncanny Illisi
echo frigate
i need 4 hits for a basic mob
Ds4?
proven stirrup
???
patent wing
lmb yes
proven stirrup
The chainsword is pretty great on Vets at least
echo frigate
Best wave clear up my ass this sibling haven't tried slaughter uncanny Illisi
Our sibling may be on something
patent wing
also deimos and ds4 are only high single target dmg
echo frigate
The chainsword is pretty great on Vets at least
Just run power sword lol
patent wing
also im mainly talking about karnak
near wyvern
Animation lock specials are still bad even tho you can dodge out of them
echo frigate
Weapons have these things called move sets and there's wave clear ones
patent wing
where chainsword is best
near wyvern
And then there is slaughter uncanny Deimos as well
echo frigate
where chainsword is best
Karnak? Tf is that
near wyvern
L1H2 when enemies get funneled in is nutty
echo frigate
Groaner into maniac and upgrade flurry to t4
When I find flurry four I will lol
Chain weapons were crazy good when bleed did like 250 or some bullshit
There's funny gimmicky weapons now
woeful patio
proven stirrup
You guys really live with your heads up your asses about weapon choice
echo frigate
The blessing difference is crazy
echo frigate
You guys really live with your heads up your asses about weapon choice
I mean it's what you find fun and winning/doing crazy shit is fun
As long as you don't bring the team down with you 🤷♂️
proven stirrup
Exactly but that's not how any of this is being framed from most others.
vast yew
Wait why are we disparaging the Chainsword now
echo frigate
But when you do bring down the team the easiest thing to fix over a skissue is weapon choice
vast yew
I just got back from lunch
static needle
Does Illisi do insane damage with uncanny strike + slaughterer?
proven stirrup
The chainsword is fine. It's more balanced than the force swords with more single tatget potential in an all-rounder package
echo frigate
Exactly but that's not how any of this is being framed from most others.
Is anyone forcing someone at gun point to use a suggestion?
proven stirrup
Yes, the deimos has a good combo for horde clear in one specific formation
But the chainsword doesn't need to funnel enemies to do that.
echo frigate
Yes, the deimos has a good combo for horde clear in one specific formation
That's how horde clear move sets worm?
K*
vast yew
Deimos has to line them up was what he was going for
echo frigate
Funneling just let's you pull off even crazier wacky shit
It's not do or die
This games balance isn't that good
vast yew
when surrounded it has to fall back to other, safer rotations involving pushes and lights
regardless
I think there's a disconnect between what is "optimal" and what is "good"
just because a weapon isn't optimal doesn't mean it isn't good
proven stirrup
As is the case in any game with a sweaty crowd.
vast yew
DS4, Deimos, and Illisi are the best Psyker melees but they aren't the only viables ones
proven stirrup
And they'd deaf to people on the outside pointing it out
echo frigate
when surrounded it has to fall back to other, safer rotations involving pushes a...
That come down to mechanical skill but continue
echo frigate
DS4, Deimos, and Illisi are the best Psyker melees but they aren't the only viab...
Yeah again as long as you don't pull your team down with you
vast yew
which if your melee weapon choice is what's causing you to fail then you have bigger problems with your fundamentals
there are, like, a handful of weapons that I'd classify as actively bad and even then you can make them work
echo frigate
which if your melee weapon choice is what's causing you to fail then you have bi...
I'm going to circle back to weapon balancing where FS panic nerfs stuff into the ground here
Mechanics can make mid weapons good
But when FS hits something with the multi nerf hammer then it's ggs
vast yew
RIP Dual Daggers
But as long as a melee weapon can deal with hordes and elites and you jive with the moveset it's a good weapon
maybe not the best weapon, or the most optimal, but good
echo frigate
Also on the topic of stuff falling on deaf ears people will actually explain stuff but you need to read it
echo frigate
But as long as a melee weapon can deal with hordes and elites and you jive with ...
TLDR: a weapon that doesn't bring your team down with you
vast yew
reading is for nerds, and my Psyker is anything but a- wait
hold on he says he needs to check with his Beloved
echo frigate
reading is for nerds, and my Psyker is anything but a- wait
Also yk FS breaks shit like crazy so it's good to read to know why your quell speed is 30% slower
They did that to a zealot perk and like 4 vet perks in the past
Pretty funny
vast yew
They also did it to Surge staff for like 3 patches in a row
echo frigate
That's more obvious then talents nerfing you
vast yew
"Oops it has permanent +125% damage"
"Oops it hits limbs and deals less damage"
"Oops it deals random ADM so deals less damage"
echo frigate
My staff does double damage
My staff does no damage
My staff does less damage
Yeah
Lol
echo frigate
Yep
And vets are still squishy now LMAO
Unless you do some commisar or stance dmg reduction crap
eager mantle
I don't feel squishy. I can sit in gunner fire. As long as I'm popping heads with helbore my toughness regen is good
vast yew
ET + Iron Will is some cracked nonsense
proven stirrup
It's all about how you play
echo frigate
ET + Iron Will is some cracked nonsense
That stuff
echo frigate
It's all about how you play
That's a main factor but not the end all be all
proven stirrup
No but it's the main factor
Which gives it more weight than this shit most of us whinge about
echo frigate
Which gives it more weight than this shit most of us whinge about
Good mechanics doesn't prevent you from taking 30% more damage
Or you gun does half damage
vast yew
Good mechanics doesn't prevent you from taking 30% more damage
Is your point here that people shouldn't use bugs then?
Because that feels like a moved goalpost
echo frigate
Is your point here that people shouldn't use bugs then?
No? It's that you should read stuff
To know that said game is bugged in x way
proven stirrup
Most people in gaming keep the goalposts in their pockets at all times
echo frigate
They happen
Does mechanics save you from that tho?
vast yew
I have terminal online presence
proven stirrup
Anything to take the piss out of the people making the game they're enjoying.
echo frigate
my "I don't read" bit was a joke
Not referring to you
vast yew
👍
eager mantle
We're on a discord talking about videogame bugs. The majority of players of many games never open a patch notes page
echo frigate
We're on a discord talking about videogame bugs. The majority of players of many...
For this game especially it makes player numbers go haywire
vast yew
At any rate, there'll always be a percentage of players that can absolutely compensate for bugs with mechanics
People do level 1 fist only Dark Souls runs after all
or true solo DWONS3 in VT2
But given the overall high quality of melee in this game I don't think any melee weapon can truly drag the team down
except maybe the taxe 4 or 7
that weapon... that weapon confuses me
echo frigate
But given the overall high quality of melee in this game I don't think any melee...
But also when you see people struggle to kill something and they're using a weapon that's definitely under viable (not mentioning meta) I feel like it's an easy problem to solve
vast yew
It can be, but it can also be that the overall build is the culprit
you don't usually want to be running Illisi/Smite/Purgatus, after all, as you're tripling down on horde clear
if someone has a Devil Claw on their Purgatus build and they're complaining about Crushers, there's a few different answers there
umbral helm
simply parry the overhead
vast yew
But if you're running, say, a Voidstrike build? Yeah sure, run that Devil's Claw
Oh Parry is great fun but if you want to kill Crushers quickly it's going to be a while
harsh urchin
doesnt really work the parry has pretty bad adm against cara.
umbral helm
I did not stutter
echo frigate
I thought you couldn't parry the overhead?
echo frigate
Oh Parry is great fun but if you want to kill Crushers quickly it's going to be ...
Then you'd use voidstrike
In that situation
vast yew
Yes, I was responding to corluus
vast yew
or Surge or whatever
thorn cedar
Overheads can be parried now
echo frigate
That's funny
umbral helm
you've been able to for a while. though, admittedly the timing on it is a little tight, has to be right as it lands basically
echo frigate
Interesting
echo frigate
I'm not a huge fan of the devil claw bc it's basically just parry anything with armor but
Cool
umbral helm
you can also parry kicks, a friend found out
vast yew
It lets you get in an anime fight with the new melee boss
just parry all the attacks
don't do a lot of damage but feels cool AF
umbral helm
he found out when he accidentally pressed the button when a tox flamer tried to kick him
strong gulch
staff parry instead of bonk
vast yew
in general the all-class weapons are a bit behind the class specific ones, but most of them are fine. Except the Caxe, Caxe is actually kinda nutty with BM
echo frigate
in general the all-class weapons are a bit behind the class specific ones, but m...
Got hit with the multi buff hammer
sinful peak
how's this? the guide recommends 78-80% blast and charge but is it really that important
vast yew
it'll work but you will (eventually) want to upgrade
eager mantle
how's this? the guide recommends 78-80% blast and charge but is it really that i...
It's gonna be fine, you're min maxing at that point
hearty dagger
Fellas, what gun do you think is good for gunker?
vast yew
Fellas, what gun do you think is good for gunker?
Columnus/Laspistol/Revolver
eager mantle
Yes. At a certain point you can crunch the numbers for the most god made roll for efficiency but in reality most shit is fine.
vast yew
most others work but those are top choices; Recon Lasguns are a no-go until they get a buff
eager mantle
Tried out recon on my gun psyker. That mission felt kinda miserable
vast yew
they broke its kneecaps man
hearty dagger
I do kinda like the recon lasgun
vast yew
when it takes you like 4-5 hits to take out a Poxwalker you just scream
I love that gun but good god the damage
eager mantle
It can still work on vets with shock trooper and onslaught but you could also run a columnus
hearty dagger
It honestly feels like it has unholy firepower
umbral helm
I used it for a lil bit when we could spam shields with warp charges. it was a meme build but it stupidly worked
vast yew
Yeah that's the biggest problem with it is that the Columnus does, like, 2-3 times the DPS
eager mantle
It's fun and isn't completely useless. Just outclassed
prime elk
when it takes you like 4-5 hits to take out a Poxwalker you just scream
Just a bad IAG rn
Good for one patch
Not even op
vast yew
It's fun and isn't completely useless. Just outclassed
the biggest problem with it is the increased ammo use gets miserable if you don't have a Vet with Regen Aura to give you some back; you run out even faster than a Columnus build
If you've got a Vet then it isn't too-too bad but without it you really start to Hoover up ammo packs like skittles
it's the Columnus Psyker Vacuum but worse
umbral helm
I used it for a lil bit when we could spam shields with warp charges. it was a m...
I specifically recall during one of those multi "hold out while the thing hacks and fix them with they break" sections just slowly laying out segments of shields, one after another, and the team slowly advancing to the servo skull via shield walkway and it was fucking dumb and hilarious
eager mantle
That's just another issue. Fatshark should just bite the bullet and make base vet aura baked into all his auras with small stats to go on top of it. You put yourself in a hole with the aura existing and will piss people off removing it and gonna be hard to make free ammo not look like the 1 choice with small stats.
prime elk
<:hmm:1048683783408328905>
It’s ok, old revolver better anyway
vast yew
That's just another issue. Fatshark should just bite the bullet and make base ve...
or just nix that aura entirely and rebalance ammo pickups/Vet reserve ammo
orchid shadow
Huh.. the new Orthus Offensive mission is neat, but damn as a Surge user, I feel useless except for add control during the finale.
eager mantle
or just nix that aura entirely and rebalance ammo pickups/Vet reserve ammo
I would say much more potential to making people mad removing it. Just make the base version the highest and bake it into all 3 auras and replace the upgraded version with another small stat
ornate hamlet
Huh.. the new Orthus Offensive mission is neat, but damn as a Surge user, I feel...
What are your stats with your surge?
snow coral
alright smite was a lot better this go around
I guess I need curios that help with corruption because that shit sucks at the final fight
orchid shadow
What are your stats with your surge?
This plus my normal setup with Illisi. I'm tempted to switch to Deimos so I have at least something to contribute with when there are no adds.
vast yew
This plus my normal setup with Illisi. I'm tempted to switch to Deimos so I hav...
that's a fancy staff there
ornate hamlet
This plus my normal setup with Illisi. I'm tempted to switch to Deimos so I hav...
Damn, slightly better than mine. Not sure what to tell you then. Gonna give it a go myself with my surge
vast yew
Booden's got some fun tech where running Flak/Elites lets you hit some funky breakpoints
But you need some other stuff with it
glossy ember
This plus my normal setup with Illisi. I'm tempted to switch to Deimos so I hav...
swap maniacs to elite
vast yew
oh no I mentioned his name and now he's here
orchid shadow
swap maniacs to elite
Hmm.. just for this particular fight? Or in general?
glossy ember
should let u 2 shot maulers and dreg ragers
in general
try it in psykhenarium
with 6 warp siphon 5 perfect timings
orchid shadow
Interesting. I'll try that, thanks.
vast yew
For what it's worth my Elite/Flak staff has not been able to 2-hit Maulers except with crits
glossy ember
mauler might need higher peril for warp rider cuz u have 20% flak, i have 25% flak
vast yew
but it can definitely 2-hit Dreg Ragers with just Elites
glossy ember
bad damage rolls i guess
vast yew
quite possibly; didn't test too long
verified it still 2-tapped Dreg Ragers (needed the Elite Aura because I'm not running a Ranged Damage node) and went to sleep
the fact that it even has damage rolls is insane though
pretty sure it's the only weapon in the game that does
glossy ember
yeah
idk why
just make it a fixed value...
sometimes a crit can hit lower than a max dmg roll non crit lol
it's nutty
vast yew
wonder if anyone has ever reported it
couldn't find anyone talking about it on reddit or the fatshark forums
seems like only this Discord has the secret lore
mental rock
I think realasianrobot(edit I think it was ryken actually)made a video about surge staff's weird damage, like how Crits would do less damage against unarmored enemies
vast yew
oh Vermintide patch notes are up
strong gulch
yip
vast yew
uh oh
urban glade
as i can only find social rejects in public games, who can help me out on the cliffhanger penance..
strong gulch
I was trying to read them but steam pages suck with text to speech apps.
strong gulch
as i can only find social rejects in public games, who can help me out on the cl...
If you can't find anyone in here to help, you can try again later or try the #vox-lfg-lexicanum channels.
urban glade
aight th
hot zephyr
So I finally played some auric damnation the last couple days (moving up from non-auric). Really loving my Assail/EP build but I find myself questioning if shield might be helpful over shriek/creeping flames?
Something like this:
Shield seems very helpful when you get gunner packs or lots of ranged enemies in tight quarters
lyric canopy
Also nice for rez
eager mantle
So I finally played some auric damnation the last couple days (moving up from no...
Shield is nice. All depends on what you want to do. I love shield when I need it but I also love dump half my peril, lighting everything on fire and continue using my staff
hot zephyr
I'm running axe/kantrel with this for assail weaving so that's why I think it might work
Right after I shriek and dump my peril is kinda when I find I'm most vulnerable
hot zephyr
I find flurry fantastic on my purgatus
I haven't played surge in a while but I imagine it would feel similarly good
vast yew
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1183643144579989544...
change Gronaer/Poxwalkers to Flak and you're cooking
Nexus + Flurry and Flak + Elites is what resident Surge Staff connoisseur Boodendorf recommends
hybrid glade
Anyone tried a scriers build for the bosses? Im thinking scriers +for boss and general work then surge for general CC during the bosses add phases
Or for CC to pick people up
vast yew
Scrier's + Surge... works but you have Peril problems when running Scrier's + any staff
vast yew
gotcha
hot zephyr
Been looknig for a decent knife for a few days... Brunt finally delivered:
vapid lichen
speaking of knife
does running double rending (backstab and uncanny) even do anything
hot zephyr
rending is factored into damage dealt as it's calculated on-hit
It's not like bleeds or soulfire
It basically just straight up makes you hit harder
vapid lichen
bc u can get like ~200% rending with full uncanny and backstab right
harsh urchin
Crit perks are sadge though
crit perk is really good on crit weapons
eager mantle
crit perk is really good on crit weapons
Crit dmg is bad because crit dmg isn't a bonus on your total damage before the bonus
eager mantle
Ah
hot zephyr
But iirc the 25% damage perks do a *lot*
I'll probably be putting 25% something on this to combo with a purgatus and be a mobility stick
I have uncanny 3 banked so I get to roll and see if I get lucky
harsh urchin
especially on weapons like colum or knife or vs or fan revolver
a crit is like triple damage
tame venture
I find it funny that Warframe has the same issue, where everyone thinks crit chance, and crit damage is the most goated thing ever, when in reality it's pretty easy to get diminishing returns
eager mantle
I find it funny that Warframe has the same issue, where everyone thinks crit cha...
I like funny red numbers and then again there were the soma days
tame venture
"WTS Rubico +CC +CD -reload 4k plat"
jovial zodiac
eager mantle
Been a while since I logged on but I had a few really good rivens
tame venture
Congrats they're worthless now 😉
hybrid glade
I stopped during the new war. I don't want to spend four hours playing as random. I want my warframe
If i want to feel powerless ill go outside
tame venture
Except for that one trash weapon that got a mega alt version that has 5/5 disposition
vast yew
Except for that one trash weapon that got a mega alt version that has 5/5 dispos...
this describes like half the weapons in Warframe
tame venture
I had that happen to me three times lmao
vast yew
buff old weapon? Nah just release a new version
tame venture
Ngl with the way Warframe is, not everything can be on equal ground, otherwise nobody would bother making anything other than a MK-1 lex
But they put in a new system that makes old weapons pretty great, and works way better than ravens
orchid nest
I still have to log in and try the warframe update today, been distracted by the darktide stuff
tame venture
Blanking on the name atm
orchid nest
incarnons
tame venture
Yeah that's them
orchid nest
although like a lot of the incarnons have good riven disposition too on one of their variants because the non prime variants get more stats from the incarnon to balance them out
so you can usually find something with a high dispo
vast yew
Also if anyone is running low on salt the Vermintide 2 rebalance patch dropped today
tame venture
Ngl I think it's neat to use old weapons with great disposition.
Like I got a boar riven, and since it was at like, 5.5/5 dispo the stats on it were crazy
hybrid glade
How is the new las pistol vs the old one
tame venture
Though it gave -reload or something which was kinda painful lmao
tame venture
How is the new las pistol vs the old one
Slower, heavier hitting
Kinda the same but less clicking
hybrid glade
Still all the good burny fun?
eager mantle
Have about only 30 hrs in vermintide 2. Have now 300hrs in darktide since the class update
eager mantle
Still all the good burny fun?
Eh on that. Probably just want the shot to kill
orchid nest
I have a good amount of time on darktide but it's dwarfed by my warframe time
tame venture
Oh yeah, I remember my favorite thing to do with shotguns in Warframe was to put on the mod that decreased spread by like, 77%.
It would take a gun balanced around having a room sized spread to placing every pellet on a crit spot and you could just delete things
eager mantle
I have a good amount of time on darktide but it's dwarfed by my warframe time
Same man. Oh man.
hybrid glade
I have about 150 horus in Vermintide 1 and 2 and nearly 400 in Darktide
orchid nest
sounds like you would like the felarx. just pierce everything shotgun
eager mantle
Corinth (I think that was the pump shotgun name) and the riven I had for it lmao
brazen warren
757 hours in darktide, soundtrack slaps harder than vermintide to me
eager mantle
I just didn't like being locked out of a character I wanted to play
hot zephyr
Siblings, should we still make fun of shotgun veterans or is shotgun decent now?
eager mantle
Shotguns feel like in a weird balance spot
steel egret
I have 600 hours in darktide and I have disabled music.
orchid nest
you can make the shotguns work but it feels like they got left behind a bit when everything else started getting buffs
that's just my perception though I don't play with them here
vast yew
Kantrael shotgun has funny builds due to the infinite cleave on the special
hot zephyr
Ok, I'm just wondering because this is my third run today with a shotgun vet in the party and I'm confused.
And it's not the same dude
vast yew
pair it with Flechette and... whatever that crit perk is called to delete hordes
orchid nest
it is pretty good at that yeah
steel egret
And it's not the same dude
If its randoms, you get random.
hot zephyr
fair nuff
orchid nest
oh yeah new archon shards today right
orchid nest
sorry this is a warframe chat now
vast yew
They're speaking in Warframe
eager mantle
Ok, I'm just wondering because this is my third run today with a shotgun vet in ...
People are still experimenting. Weapon specialist allowing you to never have to reload manually is nice
hybrid glade
Space weeb
steel egret
I only have 2000 hours of Warframe.
eager mantle
You gotta bump those numbers up!
steel egret
Exactlt
hot zephyr
I only have 2000 hours of Warframe.
Jeez, you're barely out of diapers! 😛
vast yew
#ogryn-class is talking about Rogue Trader and #zealot-class has locked itself in the bathroom to chew on the wallpaper; #veteran-class is the only place to actually talk about Darktide left
eager mantle
Oh man. Days before moving out. Dota 2 and warframe. No cares
I mean...general chat?
steel egret
Jeez, you're barely out of diapers! 😛
I know, BDO has 30000 hours.
orchid nest
you gotta be like that guy recently that did a 90 something hour endless mission over the course of 10-11 days
steel egret
From which 80% is probably afking, I hope.
orchid nest
and then promptly got an automated ban because of course he would lmao
steel egret
Warframe and Guild wars are only games ever to tell me get rest.
eager mantle
I still could barely hold the attention past 3 waves of any endless. Survival I've gone to like an hour several times but the mind goes numb
vast yew
I mean...general chat?
#general-chat is a dark place; we must never go there
steel egret
I get tired of spicy meatballframe in few minutes usually.
Then I log in again when they add stuff, then log off.
orchid nest
if I do a long one it's usually a few hours in an endless steel path void because it heavily incentivizes you to stay past the 20 or so rotations it takes to max out the 2x drop boost
eager mantle
I remember taking a break for like a year+, came back still have like 100+ relics when I did play. People asking in chat "wtf? Are you running?"
vast yew
I had a buddy try to get me into Warframe. Then I saw how much grinding was involved if you didn't want to pay for a new Frame and got real discouraged real fast
Was a while ago though
eager mantle
Oh yea I remember when they were keys too having to actually invite people to share the loot
steel egret
Just sell stuff for platinum
harsh urchin
I had a buddy try to get me into Warframe. Then I saw how much grinding was invo...
really?
iirc all the normal frames were pretty much free
eager mantle
That was me for a week going through stuff. Posted on the warframe market random shit. Didn't sell anything super high but I sold a lot
steel egret
Warframe is probably one of most generous
harsh urchin
i haven't played the game for like 5 years fyi
harsh urchin
but that's how i remember it to be
eager mantle
iirc all the normal frames were pretty much free
Depending on the frame and how you acquire them and then depending on drops. I spent like a week on spy missions just for Ivara
orchid nest
I have a friend that I keep trying to get to play that has a ton of free frames from twitch drops he just has stacked up
vast yew
I picked Excalibur, didn't like him so much, wanted to switch to Mag
harsh urchin
Depending on the frame and how you acquire them and then depending on drops. I s...
is that one new
vast yew
got told it'd be like 15 hours before I could switch and noped out
eager mantle
is that one new
"Newish" when you played probably
harsh urchin
i remember all the base frames like rhino, frost, ash, etc were pretty much free
but ash prime
frost prime
etc
eager mantle
She was added a long time ago and was obtainable through the redone spy missions
harsh urchin
required a bunch of plat farming
steel egret
I mean, game was grindy when you had to farm like.. Frost Prime?
eager mantle
required a bunch of plat farming
Not even just key/relic running.
steel egret
Which is years ago
lethal lagoon
Anyone know how long the event lasts?
harsh urchin
but to just play the game you dont need to grind
steel egret
No idea
orchid nest
you can earn frames pretty easily from the duviri normal track these days. there is 3 random normal ones every week and you just go through the reward track for the week and it gives you all the blueprints and a bunch of other random stuff
eager mantle
Anyone know how long the event lasts?
No intentions on removing the special assignment. The "event" were them ambushing you in random missions
steel egret
Duviri tires me
eager mantle
Idek what duviri is still
I stopped around deimos because it was another isolated content island
steel egret
Its flying horse, shinji time
orchid nest
I liked duviri but the circuit does get tiring after you have gone through a lot of the incarnon adapters
eager mantle
I know the trailers, I just haven't looked into it at all. Looked cool. Not in a hurry to get back into it though
steel egret
I only liked the trailer
eager mantle
The latest update looks interesting but then again that would be trying to go through all I've missed
steel egret
Man stuck in wall or something
orchid nest
I think you need deimos and new war done for it
eager mantle
Deimos boring afk
orchid nest
the coolest thing seems like the new archon shards but that is probably a new system to you. basically another power boost like mods and arcanes
rich rose
Deimos boring afk
Can be. Tried axes again, good, now trying the Illisi again just cuz
lethal lagoon
No intentions on removing the special assignment. The "event" were them ambushin...
Thanks mate.
eager mantle
Warframe deimos
orchid nest
this guy thinking this is a darktide chat smh
eager mantle
orchid nest
I was still getting the event twin spawns just a little earlier because I was using mmt for old missions and it just must be tied to their ids still
hybrid glade
So uh
Scriers with dueling sword and las pistol worked great for the new mission
Smite for oh shit moments
Like the swarms of ragers
rich rose
Scriers with dueling sword and las pistol worked great for the new mission
tried once with las. Once LOL did not like it at all. scrier I am using Columnus or Void, Surge is ok
vast yew
Void Gaze with Transfer Peril + Surge is pretty funny
hybrid glade
Scriers with this worked excellently
I was able to stay alive and mobile even in the constant hordes. Was also able to reliably apply dps to boss at any range, although ideally in melee
And you become so fast the bosses attacks are just meaningless
I also take the soul blaze talent and the one that spreads it, so I can pop an elite and the soul blaze will eat through the horde on its own
Really helps clear breathing room
next turret
is ok?
vast yew
not a bad dueling sword, though prevailing opinion is the MK4 is the king and that Uncanny Strike is Mandatory
MK5 still works if you prefer its moveset, though it deals less elite damage
vast yew
okay well the Surge Staff is real good
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eee
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i love this class after so much veteran
vast yew
if you like Plasma Vet you're going to really like Voidstrike once you can get one built
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shes been around since beta i did just spend all my plasteel lol
this game changed alot since then
vast yew
it sure did
vast yew
I played back in beta, got frustrated at crafting, left, came back finally in patch 13
oh there he is
glossy ember
Maniacs -> Flak and <@143038730880548864> will love you
u kno me
vast yew
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yesh i love this one im not keen on the floor reticle
vast yew
oh that's the Trauma
the Trauma takes a lot of practice but it is unironically one of the strongest weapons
vast yew
that'd be the Voidstrike and it requires a specific build but it goes supernova
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yeah it was really handy levelling
ill do a bl;essings rip
hopefully melk will come through
vast yew
There's a talent at the bottom of the tree on the right called "True Aim" that gives you a guaranteed crit every 5 headshots. Voidstrike can pierce multiple enemies, which will give you crits on every shot if you hit 5 headshots in a line
There's a blessing for Voidstrike called Surge which causes crits to shoot 2 blasts instead of 1
You can see where this goes
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gets big
theres alot of plasteel in the twins specialist mission
lol time for a spam
hybrid glade
if you like Plasma Vet you're going to *really* like Voidstrike once you can get...
Plasma gun still feels like a worse Voidstrike with ammo to me
vast yew
It can fire full-charges faster and IIRC it actually pens Bulwark shields while Voidstrike for me kind of does a bit of damage but not until they drop their shield can it actually kill them
but they do have a lot of similarities
also you don't have the lead shots with it
which is actually very annoying sometimes with the voidstrike
hybrid glade
You can fire on the ground to the side of a bulwark and itll stagger
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i explode myself too much with plasma lol
hybrid glade
I exclusively played with plasma for the first month of the game.
prime elk
Plasma gun still feels like a worse Voidstrike with ammo to me
Plasma has way more damage potential after its buffs
hybrid glade
Well thats good
prime elk
Not that void strike is bad
stuck finch
Some vet with an autogun usually kills stuff before my plasma bolt hits :/
hybrid glade
I havent really gone back to the vet because it was in a rough spot
prime elk
Vet is great now
vast yew
Vet's in a pretty good spot now; don't listen to anyone complaining about the keystones they all work
hybrid glade
Ya, thats my #1 pet peeve with plasma. Everything I aim at being staggered by someone immediately before my shot lands
Its like a bad comedy
prime elk
Would recommend checking out vet again
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i have a pistol vet
hybrid glade
Ya I will Sirosky
stuck finch
Its like a bad comedy
Basic brain burst feels
hybrid glade
Ya lol
prime elk
Brain burst isn’t too bad with double shield and that perk
stuck finch
Brainburst is nice with empowered psionics
vast yew
EP BB is pretty dope; favorite thing about it is that you can hold right click forever
pine wadi
What ranged and melee weapons would you all think works best for the Karnak twins?
vast yew
Vets can't steal the kill if you pre-charge
hybrid glade
What ranged and melee weapons would you all think works best for the Karnak twin...
I just did it twice on damnation and was very happy with dueling sword and laspistol
Voidstrike suffered issues in the boss fight due to tjust the constant press on my first run
orchid nest
DS4 or deimos. laspistol or columnus for boss dps, regular staff stuff if you want to focus on adds during the fight more
just remember that ds4 special to the head can stagger them some with a cooldown on it and deimos H2 to the head will throw them down
with no shield up
hybrid glade
I think too many people go into that fight thinking their job is to focus on adds
orchid nest
deimos and obscurus charged attacks also do a ton of extra damage to scab captain and the twins with their flak
yeah it's not gonna be your only job for sure, there is a lot of add management though especially on the hard mode
still need to prioritize the shields coming down though
hybrid glade
The adds do not stop, but in both runs ive done so far, someone was trying to kill every last one and thats just not gonna happen. Youre just allowing the bosses more time to DPS you.
orchid nest
yeah it's a mix for sure. on hard mode though there is like crushers and shotgunner and stuff so you can't ignore them either
I agree with your point though, it's like any event where you don't want to get too bogged down with dealing with endless stuff
ideally you will aoe them with a boss if you can, thats what I'd aim for if I brought a staff
sullen bobcat
I was planning on purge since it deals with most issues quite well
Main issue are crushers but I can slow down with vent while blaze works it's magic
vast yew
well Purge isn't going to do squat to Crushers
need Trauma or Surge to stun those puppies
(or Smite)
pine wadi
I can attest to that.
sullen bobcat
It does heavy damage for follow up,.and vent still staggers to give more time
Plus 6 more stacks of soulfire to like 22 is a fair chunk of burn
vast yew
it doesn't do heavy damage to Crushers though; soulblaze barely tickles them
IIRC the damage modifier for soulblaze to carapace is 6.66%
Nope it's actually 5%
even worse
unkempt belfry
What's the rest of your load out. Its fine if purg doesn't do anything against crushers
sullen bobcat
Deimos
I've been doing fine against crusher packs in the past. Purge just needs follow-up
22 stacks is sorta still ridiculous damage
unkempt belfry
Have you checked in the meat grinder?
sullen bobcat
I have not
harsh urchin
go check in the meat grinder
how long it takes
for your purg to kill a crusher
ye, it's fine that purg does nothing against crushers
you just should be aware of it
vast yew
I think 22 stacks on Carapace is about 10 damage per tick to crushers
sullen bobcat
It does damage and the vent stagger also increases time for the burn. It takes less damage to finish after for my teammates or a Deimos stab
unkempt belfry
Crushers have around 3k health right?
vast yew
Soulblaze follows a Sigmoid Function so the damage really ramps up from like 6-16 and then stops ramping almost altogether
harsh urchin
just.. go try it out in meatgrinder lol
vast yew
they have 3500
ionic sorrel
A few dueling sword pokes to the head will take out crushers if you are running a purg staff.
unkempt belfry
Sigmoid sounds like a slur ngl
Pov a saltzpyre playing Sigmoid enters your vt2 lobby
vast yew
Sigmoid comes from Sigma
it's a statistics thing
anyways Carapace reduces Soulblaze damage by a factor of 20
hence it barely tickles them
when Flak is out there taking 220 damage at 16 stacks Carapace is taking 9
sullen bobcat
What's the TPS in this game?
vast yew
the what
sullen bobcat
Ticks per second
unkempt belfry
Tbh I'm not sure how much more the deimos charge attack does. Regular heavy attacks against big guys seems to chunk them just fine too
sullen bobcat
It's also a factor of speed
gilded viper
Purg is great, bring a deimos or dueling sword and the set’s fine
sullen bobcat
I really don't think it takes 5 minutes for 22 stacks of soulfire to kill a crusher
Well, there's also the staff's damage itself contributing
vast yew
if you only applied soulblaze stacks it would
the staff's damage counts as well, though it also has pretty poor damage
try it in the Psykanium and see how little that hp bar moves lol
harsh urchin
I really don't think it takes 5 minutes for 22 stacks of soulfire to kill a crus...
why don't you go into meat grinder and tell us how long it takes then
sullen bobcat
I'm also on a full crit build for soulfire
orchid nest
yeah you need to stack uncanny for your soulblaze to do anything to them
harsh urchin
very simple lol
unkempt belfry
An uncharged thunderhammer hit does like 100 to a crusher. So taking a good few minute or so of swinging seems unrealistic too
sullen bobcat
why don't you go into meat grinder and tell us how long it takes then
I'm at work
Less simple
orchid nest
is someone gonna link the gareth clip again. I can feel it coming
sullen bobcat
My PC already crashes from memory leaks
And I have 32 gigs
I love how jank this game runs
orchid nest
alright I guess i'll be the gareth linker this time to keep up tradition whenever this convo comes up
harsh urchin
I'm at work
fine i'll bite
vast yew
https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1yMzCLN80TEhN4/d1337YB9osv...
Uncanny + Soulblaze do be some crack
literally 20x damage modifier
unkempt belfry
Common deimos W also
mighty cipher
I just a game where someone insulted one of our siblings for being a gun psyker before leaving the game.
Funniest part is that they weren’t even a full on gun psyker.
sullen bobcat
Oh I have that rending headshot thing on my Deimos. Guess I know what I'm doing
harsh urchin
here's how effective your purg is
here's how effective your purg is on crushers LOL
sullen bobcat
Especially the part where it just has head aimbof
near wyvern
alright I guess i'll be the gareth linker this time to keep up tradition wheneve...
It's faster to do it with push attacks
unkempt belfry
Look at that toasty boy
mighty cipher
here's how effective your purg is
If this clip isn’t 20 minutes long it’s edited down.
orchid nest
It's faster to do it with push attacks
if I am doing this I just use a charged deimos for it. probably the only time I use a charge attack on it
mighty cipher
I will defend the Purgatus staff until the end of time but it doesn’t do fuck all to crushers.
orchid nest
but yeah that isn't me anyways
vast yew
If this clip isn’t 20 minutes long it’s edited down.
he gives up at 75% hp
glossy ember
wouldn't have been so slow with scrier smh my head
unkempt belfry
The Gareths are tenacious
mighty cipher
I know I watched it
unkempt belfry
Are you guys seriously not going scryers gaze to get extra finesse damage on your purg staff??
Last time I used gaze purg staff on a boss it deleted its code from the game
orchid nest
it'll never be as clean as that clip in a real game but you're going to pull out your uncanny melee for the crushers either way using purg so you may as well light them up first
sullen bobcat
I'll probably just do the uncanny trick on them to burn them down quickly
So I'll be fine on purge during a crusher mob
harsh urchin
you won't lol
sullen bobcat
ok
near wyvern
I will defend the Purgatus staff until the end of time but it doesn’t do fuck al...
Which is why you run uncanny strike melee and BR
mighty cipher
That’s what I do