psyker-class

[royal granite]

actually thinking about it, throughout the lifetime of this game the accatrans rights gun has only been good two times, and both times it got patched IMMEDIATELY

[vast yew]

Devs hate the Elysian Drop Troops

[molten jackal]

Anyone up for helping with Malleus Monstronum penance?

[royal granite]

i'd love to but im actually really busy right now i have to dissociate and stare at the wall

[molten jackal]

sometimes it be like that

[royal granite]

try the lfg channels

they're down there somewhere

[molten jackal]

already did, no luck there yet

[royal granite]

ah, sorry to hear it

[glass forge]

is there a way to use tactical axe's heavy attack wide sweep without taking damage in a horde? range of tactical axe is short, multiple enemies swing at you, you are slowed down while charging heavy attack, one is bound to hit you

[eager mantle]

Tried recon on my gunker one game. So ass that I just had to use assail and melee the entire match. Not touching again until buffs

[eager mantle]

Pretty much just spacing, timing and pushing to create the opportunities and pacing

[verbal dome]

so i am now levelling psyker last and i gotta ask: besides having "infinite ammo" , what does psyker do that the other classes don't?

is it just team shield and cc?

[glass forge]

kill / knockdown infinite amount of enemies in a fully charge trauma staff secondary

[verbal dome]

trauma staff

[woeful patio]

Trauma is good but I hate the way the secondary targeting works

[hasty breach]

so ive started using the gunstaff columnus and it's the funnest thing in the world

[verbal dome]

also

[woeful patio]

The word gun should be blacklisted

You are lost

[verbal dome]

rumbler

[verbal dome]

gunker

[hasty breach]

scrier's gaze gunker!

[verbal dome]

[woeful patio]

#veteran-class is right this way sir

[hasty breach]

then tell me how to convince the game to roll a good trauma blessing ;_;

[verbal dome]

"Scrier's gaze" (peter parker glasses meme) "executioner's stance"

[woeful patio]

Complain about an unfinished underdeveloped rushed crafting system

I’m a game that’s been EA for a year

Maybe one day it’ll be done 🙏

[molten jackal]

If any are willing to assist with Malleus Monstronum https://discord.gg/NDXtn2an

[verbal dome]

"BASTION 220 COMBAT STA- uh i mean, peering into the warp "

so yea i guess psyker is just mainly only better in... crowd control

[agile blaze]

Wish we could name weapons to differentiate them for ourselves. I'd call this purgatus, the Air Fryer 9000

[vast yew]

there's a mod for that

[mental rock]

There's a mod for that

Lol

[vast yew]

also RIP 74 burn stat

[agile blaze]

its a pretty decent stat distribution without completely abandoning resistance and quell speed

[vast yew]

oh it's definitely usable

[agile blaze]

80 in all 3 of those would net you like 10 in resistance

[verbal dome]

live hadron reaction

[vast yew]

just a bit sad to be 2 points off

Burn from 76-80 gives the maximum 15 stack count

only really matters against Maulers and Monsters, but y'know

[agile blaze]

It also still air fries maulers and a force sword is gonna do more damage long term against monsters. Burn ain't what it used to be. I just like it to stack warp charges and have infinite bubble

[vast yew]

Burn is most of your damage due to soulblaze damage (and all DoT damage) following a Sigmoid function

but regardless it's still a very nice staff

[agile blaze]

I just want 80% cloud radius so I can blanket a corridor in fire

Honestly what we really need is a stat optimizer option like in Division 2. So you can spend some currency to incrimentally increase a stat.

[vast yew]

I'd love the option to spend diamantine to remove locks and/or boost/rearrange stats

got a few weapons that are almost perfect

[echo island]

840 plasteel run

(I will waste them all trying to get surge)

how much dps is 1 stack of soulblaze?

Also does soulblaze stack with purgatus?

[icy wyvern]

hey do blessings unlock for my account or just the character

[echo island]

Character

[icy wyvern]

i cri

[near hawk]

They unlock per weapon

[icy wyvern]

so if multiple classes use the same weapon

[near hawk]

So if you get infernus on a las pistol on your psysker and you earn the blessing you can apply it on your zealot for example

[icy wyvern]

i no longer cri

[cerulean lily]

I am currently running nexus and flurry on my voidstrike but would like to give surge a try and build a new staff. Is it recommended that I switch up my skill tree to take advantage of surge? Are there any specific nodes in the tree that would be best with surge ?

[near hawk]

With some exceptions they also unlock per family, so if you get infernus on the mark whatever laspistol you also get it on the mark whatever2 laspistol

[rain meadow]

YO

whats yalls favorite force sword?

mine is deimos because poking people is funny

[bright mica]

I've spent about 1.5 mil and 40k plasteel trying to get a good trauma

😭

meanwhile i godrolled every shovel in under 15k and 1k plasteel

awesome

:D

[rain meadow]

yeah dot in this game is fucking weird

[echo island]

and I thought spending like 2-3k plasteel trying to get surge was bad

[rain meadow]

me on my way to only ever use purg staff

[bright mica]

thats average id say

getting a good surge is pisseasy though

i spent less lol

[echo island]

purg is pog but I want variety

[rain meadow]

pogatus staff

[bright mica]

surge has very few bad blessings

[echo island]

no I meant surgge as in the blessing for voidtrike

[bright mica]

few blessings in general

ohhh

my voidstrike is kinda eh

[echo island]

surge and that crit blessing

[rain meadow]

honestly they need to give the staves more blessings

[bright mica]

but doesnt rlly matter

[rain meadow]

or atleast

[echo island]

Deleting Crushers machine

[bright mica]

NO

LESS

PLEASE

😭

[rain meadow]

make the blessings more interesting

[bright mica]

make the blessings better

[rain meadow]

i dont want stat increases

i want whacky, zany shit

[echo island]

good game design vs lazy ones in a nutshell

+5% attack after 3 attack
Okay...?

[near hawk]

Surge is a pretty interesting blessing as far as blessings go

[echo island]

vs
Ur staff turned upside down if you do a double crouch

[rain meadow]

yeah gimme goofy as shit

im from drg

and like

i want overlock level shenanigans

[echo island]

drg has their fair share of boring oc as well lol

[rain meadow]

most of the cleans, yeah

but thats why all the guns have unstable ocs

so you can make your laser gun cause platforms to explode

[echo island]

yeah I love that one that turned my rocket into mines on gunner

[rain meadow]

this guy gets it!

ROCK AND STONE!

[echo island]

ROCK AND STONE

anyways back to Soyker grind

[fresh reef]

I've become enlightened. I'm no longer running kinetic deflection

I'm going to manage my stamina like everyone else and become better for it

[rain meadow]

just dodge bro

[echo frigate]

But then you can't run the funny crit perk

[rain meadow]

i mean youve got 5 dodges unless youre using the wrong weapon

thats plenty

[echo frigate]

Tanking a DH as a non shieldgyrn is balanced

[fresh reef]

I run Scrier's and Surge, I hardly need true aim

[echo frigate]

Oh lol

[fresh reef]

Just kite them around a box

Works fine usually

[echo frigate]

But what if you can't access a box? Like stopping one in an elevator

[fresh reef]

Skill issue

[echo frigate]

Aka shit outta luck

[fresh reef]

Also if I trigger a DH I'm probably dead anyway, since my team just doesn't have the damage most of the time

[echo frigate]

Meh

It seems if you can hold it off for as long as possible you can scathe by with no casualties

[fresh reef]

Usually I kinda just let it kill whoever it aggros lol

Unless they can tank or we have a reasonable amount of dps

[echo frigate]

Only issue is that people shit themselves and letting someone die while deserved can fuck a run

[violet oak]

Nearly happened to me earlier

[cedar shore]

is it just me or wall shield are very unresponsive, when I use dome shield it deploys very easily but for wall shield a lot of the times it won't come out after pressing f and i ended up having to spam it which causes both charges to be deployed

[violet oak]

a recently level 30 zealot backtracked into a DH running from a chaos spawn, killed him, started charging me.
the other two zealots on my team suddenly had to fend for themselves

[echo frigate]

I've lost malice games with all lvl 20 people bc they don't know how trappers work :/ Imagine that with a DH

[echo frigate]

Chastise let's you live through that shit and it's wild

[violet oak]

they both ended up getting knocked, thankfully individually and could pick each other up

I was running around with a demon while they killed a chaos spawn

[fresh reef]

If we can't duo the run was fucked anyway

[echo frigate]

Meh

[violet oak]

I have to ask

Is it possible to take a DH with you on an elevator?

Because i was very much considering keeping it as a pet

[echo frigate]

No, it tps to you after you reach your destination

[violet oak]

So.. in a roundabout way, yes

[echo frigate]

I blasted one before we took an elevator and it tped for science

[violet oak]

time to intentionally wake up demons to keep them as pets

[echo island]

how are u gonna build bleed to activate Mercy killer

[glacial socket]

I was thinking about trying out scryers gaze trauma instead of my usual flame venting shreik build for it, have any of yall tried scryers w/ trauma?

[fresh halo]

Worth upgrading, Siblings ?

[echo island]

meh

[glacial socket]

the mobility is tough

[grand scroll]

Lacerate?

I mean, I have a tier-4.

[echo island]

up to u, Id rather have uncanny and the likes

[glacial socket]

maybe lacerate and flak for the mods?

[echo island]

bleed is so meh

[grand scroll]

Much better on Zealot, imo.

Since you can crit more often.

[glacial socket]

yea psyker does not synergyse with bleed to much

[grand scroll]

Myep.

So I might have to replace Mercy Killer instead

[glacial socket]

the only DOT which works with us is soulfire

[fresh reef]

It's okayish

Doesn't really synergize that well

[echo island]

scrier goes better with guns imo

[glacial socket]

Im somewhat scared to lose the CC from shreik as well

[fresh reef]

Scrier's is my speed boost button

[glacial socket]

in damn games I typically stagger around 6k enemies

[echo island]

guns that can hit weakspot regularly like heavy laspistol or revolver

[glacial socket]

w/ trauma and shreik

[grand scroll]

Replaced Mercy Killer on my knife with Uncanny Strikes

[echo island]

it could prob work with a right tree/assail build

[glacial socket]

uncanny with any weapon with a quick special like knife or dueling sword is nuts

[echo island]

I was talking about the knife just to be clear

[grand scroll]

I'm just saying

Executor seems interesting

[echo island]

yeah thats the meta. Uncanny+Exe

[glacial socket]

also has anyone been kicked for using trauma?

I just had that experience and it was weird

[hasty breach]

no but i wish i could kick a veteran with a laspistol occasionally

[grand scroll]

Just funny how I have this for some reason.

[echo island]

Like your team votekicked you?

[glacial socket]

yea I was votekicked

[grand scroll]

(._.)

[echo island]

Prob has something to do with how you played, not much to do with trauma

[glacial socket]

I was told to "get a better weapon"

[echo island]

nah

[glacial socket]

at least according to scoreboard I was doing pretty well

[echo island]

I mean

Prob a 3 stack that was feeling toxic

[grand scroll]

They jealous

[glacial socket]

thats fair

[hasty breach]

that emoji looks so heartfelt but i have no idea what it means haha

[glacial socket]

Ive seen people votekick others so their freind can join

[grand scroll]

Like, I'm one of those Veterans

...mostly because I want to cosplay as a Breacher (who are normally armed with axes and laspistols).

[hasty breach]

SHAME

SHAAAAAME

[echo island]

ye theres a lot of reasons why ppl votekick others. As long as you dont afk or die too much I think its best to not overthink it

[grand scroll]

And lots of grenades.

I am mostly a melee-ish Veteran

[hasty breach]

to be clear ive never ACTUALLY voted to kick but man i dont want to have to brainburst snipers desperately ;_;

i wantn to be roasting with my purgatus

[grand scroll]

I can hit a sniper well enough with the same laspistol.

[hasty breach]

i really like the melee/range swap tree on vet

[grand scroll]

Sure, it won't really kill them...but that's what the grenade's for.

[hasty breach]

guns, famously not enough to kill people xD

[grand scroll]

Especially if they're hiding.

[grand scroll]

Lasguns are flashlights.

Laspistols, pocket lights.

[echo island]

If you build right you can BB so quickly so your time of roasting heretics is almost unaffected

[hasty breach]

laspistols are those flashlights you get on your phone

[grand scroll]

Oh yeah

Venting Shriek, Creeping Flames and one of BB's talents, right?

[echo island]

also the middle keynote

[eager mantle]

Been playing purg and bb lately. Man it is so satisfying being on a ep bb train

[echo island]

Idk if its called keynote lol

but you get what I mean

[grand scroll]

How good is Sustained Fire now?

Keystone.

[echo island]

empower psykenetic or smthing like that

[grand scroll]

They're Keystones.

[eager mantle]

And with soul blaze on elite/special kill? Man some gunner will die to that after I kill one of their friends with bb

[hasty breach]

yea im too wed to warp siphon charges tbh

[grand scroll]

I'm tempted to replace TB with Sustained Fire

If only to test it out

[eager mantle]

I don't bother with warp siphon if I'm using bb anymore. After that penance ep or I'm not using bb

[echo island]

roasting hordes with Purg, which add to keystone stack, then use stack to almost instant BB gunners/snipers, then go back to roasting

have to be one of my fav playstyle

[hasty breach]

i like it too but as soon as i stop roasting the team gets overrun by something ;_;

[agile blaze]

Waht force sword do you guys like?

[hasty breach]

deimos

[echo island]

tbh when I use purg I almost never have enough horde to roast, and I play on dam

dodge around to a doorway and choked the horde into it, purg has infinite cleave

[agile blaze]

High intensity is still not enough

https://tenor.com/bDR3P.gif

[echo island]

mk V for horde clear, deimos for single targets

[echo island]

High intensity is a different beast though, cuz hordes in HI have mostly armored/ragers so you have to play very differently. Its not just mindless roasting

[agile blaze]

Yes

I love burning ragers

[glass forge]

what do you do when one enemy tries to melee you when you are using Purg fire, do u melee it or just burn that single enemy?

[echo island]

no, alternate between left click and rick c

[agile blaze]

idk what your build is for purgatus but I have 0 problems air frying ragers/armored

[echo island]

left c has decent stagger to it and is very fast

[hasty breach]

yea it's great and they tend to just be staggered and then theres that brain burst on attack talent

[echo island]

3-4 left click is more than enough to stagger most ragers

then go back to r clicl

or just do whatever when they're staggered

[eager mantle]

Illisi. I don't like being force into playing out an animation

[agile blaze]

yeah, the brain burst tree plus purgatus is just sex

[echo island]

dont forget to ultilize your dodge while doing all this. Dodging effectively is what seperate and good player from casuals

[glass forge]

i dont know how to play Purg well, cos takes a while for enemies to die, 15 max damage a tick, trash enemy has 375 health, needs 25 ticks

[echo island]

it looks like that on paper but thats why theorycrafting's only good to an extent. I play dam+ and most of the time I kill hordes so quick my teams still eager for more kills lol

[eager mantle]

You just...spray the fire? Idk I don't ever feel like it's not handling horde well.

[echo island]

keep a good distance and hold that rick click. its really not that hard

[eager mantle]

Still works moving it back and forth across 180 degrees in from of you.

[glass forge]

i gave up on Purg staff's damage so i mainly use it to stun so i swipe it across all hordes so they stop moving

[hasty breach]

it kills mixed hordes great

[echo island]

u talking about primary fire

thats effective as well but I'd rather do the killing than leaving it to my team

[agile blaze]

Warp charges + warp damage on crit is pretty good with purgatus

[echo island]

is it? I mostly go down the middle or right keystones

middle and right have nodes that I want so

[agile blaze]

Yeah, warp charges at 6 gives you 24% flat damage to everything. Perfect timing gives you 15% warp damage which I think applies to both the staff and soulblaze. Wildfire causes soulblaze to spread from enemies you kill so you don't need to manually spread it and can just aim down the middle of a horde and let wildfire kill the stragglers since they'll do terrified animation in close range. In Fire Reborn lets you get warp charges for soulblaze kills which means you refresh the 6 stacks almost instantly against any number of enemies. And with wildfire you're getting soulblaze kills perpetually.

I've found it pretty much melts anything but crushers, so I just run rending on a force sword for those.

[hearty dagger]

Fellas, question. What do you guys think Psyker's role is in a team?

[echo island]

Kill things

[agile blaze]

Bubble

[echo island]

Ive been agreeing with u till now

[agile blaze]

Bubble is king

You vent so quick with warp charges and battle meditation venting shriek is pretty unneccessary

And scrier's gaze is bugged

[echo island]

My Psyker

if you just kill quick enough theres no need for bubble

[lost folio]

isnt that most psykers

more specifically every class

[agile blaze]

I can do violence and bubble

[echo island]

Yes and thats how Darktide is meant to be played

[agile blaze]

I put up bubble and laugh at shotgunners who are about to become kebabs

[hearty dagger]

Personally i prefer stunshield over bubble

[agile blaze]

I like the toughness regen of bubble and that it prevents enemy ranged fire everywhere inside it, as well as containing beast of nurgle spit inside it

[echo island]

Mutants in tears

[hearty dagger]

Over bubble, it has mutant trolling and theoretically more uptime since you have 2 shields for 15 seconds rather than 1 shield for 25

That's a net increase of 5 seconds

[agile blaze]

Yeah but I run warp charges so my cooldown is basically cut in half consistently

Often times I can stack bubbles

[echo island]

shield is prob better if you have faith in ur team. But since I play pub with rando that faith is nonexistant

[agile blaze]

And honestly I don't personally find mutants that dangerous.

[echo island]

also shield promotes the turtling playstyle, which I hate

[agile blaze]

With auto brain burst it usually just takes one smack to the head

[hearty dagger]

Not just mutants, i think stunshield is a better reactive shield as well since you don't have the risk of the enemy getting in to shoot you.

[agile blaze]

enemies cant shoot inside it

Like if they get in the bubble their fire is nullified still

[hearty dagger]

That's gotta be cap

No way

[agile blaze]

Nah its true

[echo island]

yeah Ive never seen bullets flying inside a domeshield b4, as much as I dislike it

[agile blaze]

go test it

[echo island]

but the thing is
They can break

[vapid lichen]

can confirm that domeshield also blocks everything inside it

[echo island]

Domeshield on higher difficulties go away so quickly

[agile blaze]

It sort of depends how quick you are at dispatching gunners and reapers

Which with brain burst is fairly quick

[echo island]

left shield is more focus and usually lasts longer

[agile blaze]

since dropping a bubble speeds up brain burst casting

[echo island]

any ability speed up bb just to be clear

[vapid lichen]

i never use the extra two nodes on brain burst ngl

[echo island]

I'd rather shrieking flame or whatever its called for clutchability

[agile blaze]

Yeah, I'm saying the main thing that fucks up bubble is gunners, and if you're running BB you can just pop them

[lost folio]

I use bubble works wonders on too many gunners

[glass forge]

i tried the psyker wall, seems pretty good since melee enemies are more of a threat in hordes

[vast yew]

Used to run EP BB and Dome on a Purg build, the Dome might not last too long but it lasts long enough to pop 2-3 gunners and for your team to reposition into better cover

Plus the Dome is a solid way to tell your team to group up at a specific location during an event

They tend to run into it

[vapid lichen]

the other thing about dome is the toughness regen

that part is insane

[vast yew]

The Toughness regen is servicable but the 50% toughness DR is great

[vapid lichen]

it provides a layer of safety in melee too because of that yea

[vast yew]

Combine with the 33% for high perils and a few nodes and you just tank gunner shots even after it drops

[royal granite]

i love how as you go up in difficulties the game kinda slows down and becomes more methodical, then you hit auric maelstrom and its like "if we stop moving we are fucking DEE EE DEE DEAD LETS GET MOVING PEOPLE"

you are not going to clear the current horde before the next one spawns

[glossy ember]

oh yeah? watch me

i proceed to explode

[royal granite]

you just crashed the atoma prime gunner convention

[glossy ember]

[royal granite]

and everyone is looking at you

there's 30 bouncers headed your way and they are 3 meters tall and covered in carapace

you need to SCHMOVE

[vapid lichen]

u know on histg when there's a trail of specials spawning behind and the team keeps peeling backwards to pick them off

it's so bad

just keep moving and kill them as they come we've been here for like three minutes we have to keep moving

[glossy ember]

see thats why i don't dislike knifers

they get the team to move forward

[violet oak]

I wander mindlessly looking for plasteel, that tends to keep people moving

The promise of plasteel is stronger than their love for the emperor

[vapid lichen]

plasteel enjoyers rise up

(everyone)

[agile blaze]

Plasteel > Emperor

[fluid knot]

And yet people still try...

[quasi junco]

@digital narwhal Grond?

[royal granite]

i have died because my team kept peeling back for this reason and just watched silently as they slowly move further and further backwards in the level

[lost folio]

I've had went back to cover a guy who does that

[grand scroll]

I think I finally realized the difference between Deathspitter and Fire Frenzy now.

Deathspitter likely improves not just damage, but also stagger.

(Or maybe I am dumber again)

[vapid lichen]

Power does multiple things including increasing stagger iirc

[royal granite]

another favourite of mine is when 2 people go down and the remaining 2 keep trying to clear a room before advancing

[mental rock]

Power increase damage, cleave, and stagger

[royal granite]

finesse too

[grand scroll]

Okay, thanks for clarifying

[vapid lichen]

u also get people that want to kill off everything before going for a rez

[grand scroll]

Anyway, Fire Frenzy only increases damage, right?

[royal granite]

yep

[mental rock]

This is the first I've heard power increases finesse, where'd you see that info?

[royal granite]

patch notes iirc

[vapid lichen]

so they never finish killing stuff and whoever is down bleeds out and dies

[royal granite]

for patch 13 i think

[harsh urchin]

power does not affect finesse

[royal granite]

idk it's been a while, i'm willing to accept that i'm wrong

[quasi junco]

isnt power a combination of damage and stagger?

[static needle]

Can warp expenditure be worth running paired with gunpsyker using scrier's? I know the toughness regen isnt much but you quell and generate peril at the same time, as you can with scrier's, isnt it kinda good?

[spice veldt]

+60% power = +60% damage, +60% cleave, and +60% stagger

[quasi junco]

oh cleave too nice

and impact is just stagger?

[spice veldt]

ye

[royal granite]

i can't find a source on power increasing finesse but i can't find a source on what power does in general

not an official one

[inland sand]

Power is cleave stagger damage

[spice veldt]

you can at least check cleave and damage through the calculator and through testing, assuming that you trust the calculator

the rest of that is stuff that I garnered from crab and commissartyr

assuming that you trust either of them

[royal granite]

yeah idk, frustrating game to be a fan of

[fluid knot]

Idk about Tyr, but Crab is very good with informations

[royal granite]

i thought either patch 13 or 14 had an explanation of power in the notes but i seem to have misremembered

[summer prairie]

the latest notes briefly mention it in the context of the combat stimm but the information is incomplete

[static needle]

For knives, do bleed stacks deal higher damage if it comes from a heavy attack instead of light?

[fluid knot]

Nope, same damage

[static needle]

so spamming lights to kill big targets might not be a bad idea?

[fluid knot]

Well, to build up some stacks, but after you have stacks, heavies will be better because more damage an they'll just refresh the stack count you applied previously

[vapid lichen]

against a crusher, spamming lights to stack uncanny then doing heavies is probably better...?

[static needle]

alr

[hot zephyr]

Question re Combat Knives: I'm looking to get a decent Combat Blade to pair with my Purgatus, I know the new mark 6 combat blade just came out. Is there a preference between the Mk 3 and Mk 6? Only difference I can see is on the heavy attack combo (strikedown vs Vanguard)

[glossy ember]

6 goated

better push attack

wider swings

[hot zephyr]

Obviously this isn't a god roll or anything, but is something like this decent enough to start from then?

Bad damage, but it's got uncanny and crit

[eager mantle]

I mean yea? If you don't have anything else the dmg discrepancy is gonna be minimal on a knife.

[hot zephyr]

I've literally never used/bought a combat knife so, I have no idea

I thought it would be fun/cool to use something new

[eager mantle]

Like really I think some people really need to read what the actual difference between a 50 vs 80 percent on some weapons really is

Some stats is just min maxing at a certain point, completely usable and fine most of the time but of course can almost always get better

[glacial socket]

has anyone played with EP Assail? ive been interested in expirementing with it

[hot zephyr]

Yeah like stuff rolled over 65% or even 70% in all slots is going to be excellent. It might not be perfect but whatever, nothing is. I come from Borderlands where BIS doesn't really exist

[eager mantle]

Yea, it's fine. You definitely won't be at max stacks w/o them being used

I have a 80% dmg columnus and a 67% dmg columnus. The dmg difference is like 3-5 iirc per bullet.

[hot zephyr]

Yeah, like there's very specific places it can matter a lot. But those are quite rare.

I just had no idea if Knife was one of those places or not

[eager mantle]

Nah you'll be fine with the knife

[glossy ember]

if you get a good second blessing u gucci for flexible perks

otherwise will have to keep crit rate

[ripe remnant]

Ohh my god, I thought I was at least at 200 this time

[eager mantle]

You'll get it man.

[ripe remnant]

This is just so frustrating

I'm doing damnation runs in hopes I'll get it - I still can't get it

I tried it with a team here in vc

And still didn't get it

[eager mantle]

Best to not think about it. Just run missions and it'll happen. I got mine with the 6 stack talent just playing with my surge staff normally in some random game

[ripe remnant]

Do you play auric missions? Maybe that's the only way.

[eager mantle]

Hi intensity shock troop can help. More targets for guaranteed stacks

[ripe remnant]

That's what I was doing

[eager mantle]

I play aurics but not all the time.

[ripe remnant]

Heresy + HISTG

On Archivum map

[hot zephyr]

Yeah I'm looking at it as I'll want to keep an eye on shop for a better one, but this is good enough to see if I like the playstyle and learn how to use the mobility and special

[eager mantle]

Who knows. Maybe purge with all the soul blaze talents can help

[glossy ember]

i ran with a 60% knife before and it was fun

fine*

well fun too

[vocal sundial]

dont use the soul blaze talent use the team kills one

and then just don't press f

should be easy peasy

[ripe remnant]

I tried different ones

[ripe remnant]

But the stack decays in 25 seconds

Like, I have to run before my team just to target the specials

[vocal sundial]

run faster

[eager mantle]

Idk I just got it with my surge staff. Can't remember if I got it while I was going for the BB kills at max charges at the same time

[ripe remnant]

Have to rush head first into maulers

[vocal sundial]

which blitz are you using

[ripe remnant]

Assail

[eager mantle]

BB will guarantee a stack

[vocal sundial]

maybe use bb for the guarantee

[ripe remnant]

On a special

Or elite

[summer prairie]

Play a private game with one other player and just camp somewhere

[ripe remnant]

So you get bent just from going in a lift

[summer prairie]

He can run smite or something

[eager mantle]

Yea, I think I ran surge and BB when I got it

[vocal sundial]

i was just doing a bb gunpsyker

[ripe remnant]

Tried that and there just aren't enough elite spawns

[ripe remnant]

I'm doing assail gunpsyker for it

[vocal sundial]

idk your weapon choice shouldnt matter

[summer prairie]

Don't kill the elites/specials until you have to

[ripe remnant]

Because I can just shoot elites in the distance

Hardest part is keeping stacks for consecutive 5 minutes when they decay in 25 seconds

[summer prairie]

if you are the only one killing elites/specials, you can just let the timer almost run out while charging BB with rmb

[vocal sundial]

u just gotta kill more stuff

[summer prairie]

in a private match

[ripe remnant]

But that's playing against a team

[summer prairie]

in a private match

[ripe remnant]

And I'm not that good to solo/duo Damnation

[hot zephyr]

One key I remember from when I got mine was to not just murder everything constantly. Just slow down and let the stack nearly wear off before refreshing it. Even on damnation it can be hard to keep the stacks through a lull so it can help if you're with a group that's moving fast / speedrunning.

[rustic hare]

I got a comment/question, I've been doing way more damage with my revved up chainsword than I have ever done with any of my force swords. I can drop almost any elite with one revved up swing. (Except for the big armored ogryn) I could rarely do this with my force swords. Am I doing something wrong? (Sorry for the text wall)

[hot zephyr]

No, the chainsword is excellent and excels against heavily armoured targets, especially when it's got a good damage/pen roll

[vast yew]

Do you have Uncanny Strike

[rustic hare]

I have a few different force swords with different blessings. However, none do the same crazy amount of damage

[vast yew]

hmm, the Deimos with Uncanny 4 should do quite a bit of damage, though normally you don't use the special

you just L1H2 to victory

[rustic hare]

I'll tweak a force sword tonight and see what happens. Thanks

[vast yew]

NP. The biggest thing about the Deimos H2 is it also does stupid amounts of stagger, as in it will throw even Crushers mid-swing to the ground on a headshot

There's also the Duelling Sword 4, which can also pick up Uncanny and can kill Crushers/Maulers in only a few heavies

[tawny totem]

Is there any reason to not pick warp charges now

[vast yew]

you want to save points

[tawny totem]

im max lvl

well ive got 30 points xd

[quasi junco]

im partial to DD for critstrike voidstaff builds

all my other builds have warp charges

I don't do gunkers, ew

[rustic hare]

Thanks. I'm finally getting into all the details of the melee weapons now. I've just the found the chainsword to be the kids devastating. I can often do almost 1000 damage with the dang thing

[vast yew]

you're a madman

respecc

[quasi junco]

voidstaff crits can reach DD targets in the midst of hordes, EZ sniping lol

[vast yew]

the chainsword is devastating, but struggles vs. Carapace (aka Mauler headshots and Crushers)

[hot zephyr]

In my experience, the weakness of the Chainsword is the rev causes animation lock, so against single targets it's great but if you are getting attacked by an elite pack you can quickly get in trouble

[tawny totem]

yea same lol, scriers gaze sounds cool but when I tried it in the past I just wished I had picked veteran lol

[glossy ember]

scrier?

[tawny totem]

and ofc it is not worth much with staffs

[plucky flax]

Gazer.

[glossy ember]

love da gaze

love gazin

[vast yew]

inb4 Booden posts his cursed Surge staff/Gaze/Warp Charges build

[tawny totem]

What weapons do you use

[glossy ember]

surge staff and combat knife

and assail

[tawny totem]

when do you use scriers gaze

[glossy ember]

when its up and i see elites

[vast yew]

oh no the clips are coming

[glossy ember]

no im not home yet

[vast yew]

[glossy ember]

cant mlg clip

[vast yew]

oh ok

[tawny totem]

which weapon do you use

is what I meant

[glossy ember]

yes

[echo island]

that clip changed my entire psyker career

[tawny totem]

either?

[glossy ember]

both

at the same time

[echo island]

Im now a scrier glazer

[glossy ember]

my legacy...

[hot zephyr]

Scrier's Glaze sounds like a donut that reveals your future

[glossy ember]

[tawny totem]

Well, gl boodendorf

[glossy ember]

i have a yt vid i can link but that doesnt showcase da best

https://youtu.be/mxPGYtWQ77U?si=9sJesnvWolSK_8Yc

back when i was a wee gazing lad, just starting out

[plucky flax]

69 pen

[glossy ember]

man instantly gave up on me bro i promise its fun...

[vast yew]

Your body is a machine that converts 2 charged attacks into 100% Perils

[glossy ember]

[tawny totem]

I didnt know about that surge weapon switch exploit

[glossy ember]

works with lots of weapon to cancel their animation endlag

but ye op on surge

[vast yew]

It's cool but only a bit of extra DPS in exchange for your carpal tunnel

[glossy ember]

ugh

[vast yew]

the main advantage is being able to do something else instead of channeling, like block or push

[tawny totem]

but I cant get over that it countersynergizes with itself, I think if there was steeper competition for elite kills you wouldnt regain warp charges in time and I think youd have less dps than if you had just kept the warp charges

[glossy ember]

oh ive played with plasma vets before

it's rough but very close

[tawny totem]

and when im psyker I nearly always have a gorillion crits

[vast yew]

Oh no the best part is that Scrier's Gaze doesn't work with Warp Siphon. Like it doesn't get the cooldown reduction at all

[tawny totem]

surge that is

[vast yew]

Booden's just a madman

[tawny totem]

I think the fire rate of plasma makes that easier

[glossy ember]

ok think about it this way

[tawny totem]

I do not intend to flame

btw

[glossy ember]

scrier at 0 seconds is 2.5 warp charges of damage, 4 warp stacks of - peril generation and 20% crit rate

every 4 seconds is an extra warp stack in damage

if you see a shotgunner or a gunner that is usually an instant warp stack

[tawny totem]

but you drop 6 warp charges worth of buffs

[glossy ember]

right but if you can get 3 warp charges in mere seconds you've won

[tawny totem]

and the benefit (if your vet doesnt kill the targets first) only lasts some time

[glossy ember]

you can and should, creeping flames surge staff is superior

[tawny totem]

a somewhat large risk for not much gain

[glossy ember]

blitz cancelling makes you faster than ur vet

[tawny totem]

what is creeping flames?

[glossy ember]

shruek

shriek

[glossy ember]

20% crit rate is huge

that's a full IV Nexus at any peril

sets me to 58% crit rate and just enough damage to one crit gunners and instantly kill shotgunners

[near wyvern]

Atehenum finally up to date with the current patch 💪

[glossy ember]

how tf do i check pins on phone in new discord uhh

[near wyvern]

Yeah it's pretty borked, lemme link it

[glossy ember]

its cool imma drive home

[near wyvern]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[tawny totem]

shotgunners already die in one hit

[summer prairie]

Tap the channel name

[tawny totem]

nvm I think I crittied a few times in a row lol

youre right

[glossy ember]

you can see some elite killing competition here from my teammates @tawny totem

brb driving

[cedar shore]

can brainburst itself triggers kinetic flayers?

[hot zephyr]

Thank you, I was hoping you'd have thoughts on the Mk6 Combat Blade soon! Exactly what I needed.

[plucky flax]

Mfw co-worker rang me during a game because he wanted to complain about work.

Feels Christmas Man

[near wyvern]

Yes

You have to finish the cast below 97% peril tho

For the 10% chance, assuming it's not on the 15 second internal cooldown

It also benefits from EP

Without consuming the stack

[mint pivot]

[bright mica]

anynyan wanna fireteam for some damn+ >_<``

[vast yew]

Run & Gun -> Warp Nexus and Critical Damage -> Flak and you're cooking

Oh also @near wyvern if you don't mind, why do you recommend Unarmored damage on the Surge staff over Maniacs or Carapace?

[lucid turret]

Can anyone show me a good psyker build that involves using the lightning hands? I'm a bad psyker and wanna know if I can be mire effective

[vast yew]

Smite is (usually) used to stall/stun waves of Elites so your team can kill them/reposition

Common on Voidstrike builds, as they otherwise lack CC and don't really have a use for the other 2 blitzes

[plucky flax]

Can do what region?

[vast yew]

There's also a fun build where you use Smite to generate Peril, then use Shriek to light everything on fire, repeat

[lucid turret]

Usually what I went for

[vast yew]

The only builds where you probably don't want to run smite are Purgatus and Trauma builds, since they have their own stagger/stun

Gunker also tends to go Assail but I could see Smite if you really wanted to mix things up (probably better to go Assail though)

Surge can go either Assail for horde clearing/specialist sniping or Smite for horde control and Palpatine memes

Personally the only build that I run Smite on is my Voidstrike one, and while I don't use it very often it has come in very clutch a few times

[echo island]

Surge staff is such a weird weapon, it doesnt compliment any blitz particularly well

[vast yew]

Surge is decent single-target damage combined with stun

and very fast RoF

struggles against hordes though, hence my choice to pair it with Assail and Creeping Flames

(and an Illisi)

[plucky flax]

Surge seems bad pls buff.

[echo island]

I feel like I can do what surge can do much better with voidstrike, and voidstrike secondary fire allow u to snipe enemies from afar as well

[vast yew]

Oh Voidstrike is better, Voidstrike and Trauma are a cut above Purgatus/Surge

[echo island]

surge has a limited range, and the primary fire is wildly inaccurate

[vast yew]

but Surge has the big advantage of not needing to aim

[echo island]

disagree, I think purg>trauma

[plucky flax]

I would rather have surge in solo situation than voidstrike.

[echo island]

skill check staff

[vast yew]

It's less for skill check and more about what happens with 7 crushers run at you

voidstrike can deal with it if you have room to back up

but if you don't...

[echo island]

Surge gets murked also?

[quasi junco]

I slew 6 shot gunners with one RMB on voidstaff. Surge can’t do that 😛

[vast yew]

nah Surge stuns 2-3 at a time and rapid fires, it's pretty resilient to Elite rushes

but Voidstrike is obviously better outside niche scenarios

[echo island]

Not a psyker thing but I once sniped like 10 shotgunner with a shot of plasma

[cerulean lily]

Can anyone weigh in on the surge blessing for voidstrike? I currently run nexus and flurry but am interested in doing a voidstrike woth surge . Should I adjust my skill tree if I bring a surge blessing? Are there any specific nodes I have to have if I run a void with surge??

[static needle]

Can warp expenditure be worth running paired with gunpsyker using scrier's?

[vast yew]

Nexus/Surge is the meta, pair it with the True Aim talent and laugh

[echo island]

Surge blessing is the best on voidstrike

[quasi junco]

And DD, crit aura, crit % on weapon

[echo island]

On a good roll surge blessing can one shot a cluster of crushers

[vast yew]

Also; what do you think Purgatus does better than a Blaze Trauma build?

[quasi junco]

Become the Oprah Winfrey of crits

[glossy ember]

assail

[vast yew]

stop trying to get newbies to run DD

[cerulean lily]

Awesome. Thanks for the info

[plucky flax]

Everything blaze trauma bad pls buff.

[echo island]

gonna have to see that Blaze trauma build to judge for myself

[vast yew]

Chaos I'm sending him your vid

[plucky flax]

The dislikes

[vast yew]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ba8PeeJL8

[eager mantle]

Finally got lvl 3 blaze for my trauma staff. I like it.

[vast yew]

The short version is: Blaze Trauma lights things on fire in a stupidly large AoE while having decent Elite damage, ability to knock even Crushers to the ground, and normal left-clicks for killing shooters/gunners/snipers

[eager mantle]

Does the 2 shots on crit even work with trauma charge?

[echo island]

Warp charge? Cool I dont have a warp charge build yet

Gonna farm for a trauma so I'll try this out later

[vast yew]

No

[eager mantle]

Knew it

Fucking stupid

[plucky flax]

Incredibly based thumbnail this one
https://youtu.be/yk3r1ejk5PQ

[vast yew]

If you can't go Blaze Trauma build, Rending Shockwave/Warp Flurry is a good alternative

won't clear hordes as well but buffs team damage vs. Elites/Monsters/Bosses

[eager mantle]

I need to get rending shockwave too. The pain of brunt. I've spent like over 500k these past 2 days. Gotten only like 2 trauma staffs over 360

[vast yew]

and of course still lets you be immune to Ragers + Maulers by spamming it at the ground in front of you

[echo island]

I have a mk V force Sword with blazing spirit on it as well, this might work

[vast yew]

The meme build

[eager mantle]

I am wowed at the amount of random mauler kills when I start spamming a horde

[echo island]

ALL BLAZE

[vast yew]

I really want an Illisi with Shred and Blazing Spirit

I know it isn't as good as Slaughterer

but Flaming Sword

[eager mantle]

Blazing spirit is weird. Most of the enemies you crit on are gonna be dead anyways

[echo island]

yeah but with that one perk it spreads to nearby enemies

[vast yew]

yeah that do be kinda the problem, though I think it's pretty solid for bruisers and up

[plucky flax]

It's shit on sword but incredibily good on trauma.

[echo island]

granted its not the most damage still

[vast yew]

chaff dies anyways and Bruisers get murked by slaughterer

but y'know

flaming sword

[echo island]

ye but like
Double everything

[vast yew]

T4 Blazing for Trauma pls Fatshark, it'd be balanced I swears

[eager mantle]

Oh I want the blessing just to have it but man I do wish it spread on its own without the talent on kill

[plucky flax]

I'm still waiting. My trauma will be like 99% close to perfection with that.

[echo island]

They should call that perk forest fire

[vast yew]

There's a couple problems with the "spread on kill" talent that make it... quite a bit less effective than you'd think by reading the description

[echo island]

It makes soul blaze has a stack cap aint it?

[eager mantle]

There's a lot of things less effective than what you'd think based on description

[echo island]

so if you spread 2 thats it, and 2 stack of SB is tiny tiny damage

might as well just keep hitting them with ur sword

[eager mantle]

You made them white/blue essentially

[vast yew]

It spreads the stacks on the target, up to 4
It splits the stacks between targets (so 4 targets = 1 stack each), and the target can't go above the stacks on the dead enemy or 4

[summer prairie]

it would be nice if it at least refreshed stacks when it can't add more

[eager mantle]

Oh god that's even worse than how I thought it worked

[vast yew]

So if everything has 3 stacks because you crit with blazing trauma, and you kill something... it does nothing, because they already have 3 stacks each

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is op.

[vast yew]

Now I will say, it DOES have a place in Smite + Shriek spam builds, because it helps to trigger In Fire Reborn more consistently

[plucky flax]

Haters will say my damage is fake.

[vast yew]

but otherwise... eeeehhhhh

[echo island]

Ikr and blazing spirit spread like 2-3 right? so you crit, the trash mob die and now all enemies around it have like 2 stack. Which tickles even the weakiest trash mobs

[vast yew]

not as fake as your Jordans

[summer prairie]

pretty good for a blue shop item

[opal gyro]

Thoughts on focused chanelling on purge, instead of warp flurry?

[echo island]

Reminds me of ppl running lacerate and bleed on knife

[eager mantle]

I am valuing seeing the conga line of crushers and maulers knocked back on their asses

[vast yew]

yeah, and if you crit with blaze trauma the total AoE that receives 3 soulblaze stacks is like 70 square meters, sooo the number of "not-on-fire" enemies is very small

[echo island]

like... just hit them again with your knife? Lmao

[zinc phoenix]

Monkey paw curls: t3 is nerfed, t4 has stats of old t3

[vast yew]

wait actually the Blazing Spirit on my Trauma isn't locked, so it'd just bump my staff's rating up by 15

STONKS

[eager mantle]

unintended bug of soul blaze healing enemies

[echo island]

What difference does it make?

[vast yew]

actually I wonder; with the Trauma, does the area radius include the epicenter, or does the radius start after the epicenter?

namely, does an 80% Blast Radius Trauma have an 8.6m radius, or is it actually 2.3m + 8.6m = 10.9m?

[summer prairie]

former

[vast yew]

okay that's what I figured

the day they let stats go to 100 Force Staves will ascend to godhood

[echo island]

are u kidding me
I thought trauma and voidstrike share blessing pools
Now Im going to have to farm Trauma blessings again?

[vast yew]

so quick tip: weapons share blessings if everything after the "Mark xxx" part of the name is the same

[echo island]

ye but these 2 looks identical

same primary moveset as well

[vast yew]

they're close but not quite identical

Trauma has Rending Shockwave, Voidstrike does not

[echo island]

Im big mad

Wait nvmind I already have one with Blazing spirit

No thats a Voidstrike

🤦‍♂️

[vast yew]

oof.jpg

yeah for the Voidstrike Blazing Spirit is unfortunately just completely eclipsed by Surge

no need to light things on fire when you can just Death Star Laser them instead

[echo island]

literrally drilled a hole trough space time

[vast yew]

and they both trigger on crit so

[formal ridge]

Is it just me or does Chain sword activation sound nothing happens?

[echo island]

when u hit that good crit

[vast yew]

Psyker with True Aim: "I make my own luck"

[echo island]

"I used skills to grab a hold of luck"

[vast yew]

It's supposed to, but if you rev it up and then press special again you turn it off

[formal ridge]

I hear nothing no matter, activate or disactivate

maybe its a mod I have or something

[vast yew]

sounds like a bug; any mods installed? might need to verify files

[formal ridge]

I play in third person {(PerspectiveS) thats all I can think

[vast yew]

dunno, never messed with third person

[formal ridge]

or an audio spatial thing

like sound might come from center speaker which i dont have

[analog apex]

So I have a psyker build idea I wanna spitball

[formal ridge]

yeah its the thiurd person thign

thats why ic ant hear it

[vast yew]

makes sense

[vast yew]

does it involve DD + Brain Burst?

[tawny totem]

we shitmaxxxing out here

[formal ridge]

maybe i should put "first person toggle" into my macro

activate chain sword in first person then swap back to third

[analog apex]

It’s like a desperado space cowboy crit build kinda vibe.
Melee weapon doesn’t matter but I went for the cleave force sword w/deflector.
But the main idea is: assail, the various nodes in the tree that have to do with crits. And the right keystone that highlights enemies to build up stacks of damage, crit damage and weak spot damage. And then for the ranged weapon the new fanning revolver with the Rending on crit and crucians or surgical.

You build stacks using assail, and then you mag dump a boss with the revolver or 1-2tap crushers or any other threat with the revolver. But basically cowboy go brrr

[vast yew]

I mean it can't be spicier than the Surge Staff + Gaze + DD build Booden tried for 1 map before realizing it was stupid

[vast yew]

seems fine; Crucian's >>> Surgical because if you're going Surgical you might as well go old Revolver instead

[hot nebula]

what perks/blessings are good on the Illisi sword?

[analog apex]

And idk wether to go scream or shield

[formal ridge]

surgical + headhunter = 100% crit all the time

[analog apex]

But I thought it would be a fun thematic build

[grand scroll]

Pain

[vast yew]

Slaughterer mandatory, Deflector/Uncanny good options for 2nd blessing

[analog apex]

Cowboy psyker time

[formal ridge]

thats all Ive been playing

[grand scroll]

Still can't give Scriptures to bots

[formal ridge]

but with headhunter autogun

[vast yew]

Surgical doesn't work well with the fan the hammer bit, since you only get the benefit on the first bullet and then nothing on the next 4

hence Crucian recommendation instead

[formal ridge]

different gun

[vast yew]

yeah OG revolver is great with Surgical/Handcannon

he's using the new one though

[formal ridge]

you get crit% off blessings and crit damage off talent

[analog apex]

My main build is all lightning. Smite + scream and surge staff and the left keystone. Just lightning everything

[vast yew]

New Revolver feels like it needs some extra Penetration; only being able to hit 1 dude (2 Groaners) makes it feel a bit weird trying to kill Ragers or Specialists in a horde

[analog apex]

But decided I wanted to mix things up with a new loadout

[vast yew]

ah yes the "Sith Lord" build

[hot nebula]

thanks. I've got shred 3 and uncanny 4 from consecrations

[vast yew]

make sure to use a red Illisi skin and the glowy-eyed Navigator helmet for the voice mod to complete the Sith vibes

[analog apex]

Yeh I know it’s a tad generic but it feels good and it was fun for awhile. Hoping desperado psyker is more unique. I don’t really have many loadouts on my other classes my zealots fully kitted out but I been branching out since I got the others to lvl30

[vast yew]

there are a few other Illisi builds, namely Shred + Blazing Spirit (it's not great but it's fun!) and a quirky special-spam build with Bloodthirsty

But slaughterer generally outperforms those builds by itself, and keeps a 2nd blessing slot open

[analog apex]

The new helmet with the red glowy eyes?

[vast yew]

yeah it has a special voice filter that's deeper than the other ones

hold up lemme find a video

[analog apex]

Yeh I knew there are a few headgears that change the voice, I have one on my thunder hammer zealot

[vast yew]

Here we go: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oJd1IshBcY

[analog apex]

I wish it didn’t look so goofy

[formal ridge]

I get it, War Hammer ~> War Pigger ~> War Hogger > Wart Hog > SLob on my Knob

[vast yew]

Notably: Fatshark is quirky sometimes and the golden version without the glowy eyes DOES NOT have the voice mod

[formal ridge]

Got EM

[analog apex]

That’s what you get for being a gaudy bastard, no voice mod

[vast yew]

I think it looks fine with any of the black armors

[analog apex]

When new shop rotation?

[vast yew]

it's still a bit goofy with the giant headpiece but I can deal

uhh should be Thursday

[analog apex]

Noice

What of the chances of another repeat?

[vast yew]

if Fatshark wants our money they gonna need to put some good stuff in there for Christmas

[analog apex]

I’ve been wanting some psyker cosmetics but I hate 90% of them. All my other classes are decked out in various amounts of drip but my psyker be lackin

[vast yew]

My Psyker is dripped out in the gear you can buy from the in-game cosmetic store lol

except for Helmets

I've got the voice mod helmet and another one that looks good

[analog apex]

I have the blue hooded fit for the lightning build. But I might make a Sith Lord outfit version later

Just for the giggles cuz my mate is a big stars wars fan

[vast yew]

I also really prefer fingerless gloves on my Psyker, and a lot of the Psyker torsos that I've liked have full gloves

so that makes most of them an easy pass

[hearty dagger]

Fellas, do you guys have any idea if any weapon with Falter can stagger a bulwark on headshot post-smite?

[vast yew]

I'll be honest I've never messed with Falter, no

[glossy ember]

i'd like to vouch for other perks on surge staff

flak+Elite damage lets you 2 shot maulers and maniac ragers very consistantly

flak + unyielding removes 1 shot off reapers/bulwarks and adds some boss damage

[vast yew]

Is that better than Flak + Maniacs upping your damage vs. Dreg Ragers?

[glossy ember]

you already 2 shot dreg ragers

with just flak

[vast yew]

Dreg Ragers are maniacs tho

[glossy ember]

oh sorry i meant scab

[vast yew]

... at least when I was testing I didn't get a 2-shot on them

yeah Scab Ragers are Flak

[glossy ember]

vs dreg ragers you can two shot them with elite + flak

[echo island]

and Zero surge blessing 😄 🔫

[glossy ember]

i can record a quick vid

[olive ember]

NOOOOOO

[glossy ember]

lemme just do dailies on a shitty krmmo first

[vast yew]

oh noooo Rampage moves from a great perk to... still pretty great, actually

[vast yew]

ok cuz I currently have Flak/Maniacs and if Elites lets me 2-shot Dregs then I'm switching to that (it's not locked)

[glossy ember]

It should yes

try it

[vast yew]

dont' remember what the Damage stat is though

[glossy ember]

my staff is 78 damage i think

[vast yew]

will have to check when I get home in like an hour what mine has

unless I posted a screenshot... somewhere...

oh ok found an older pic: https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1182906758084186112/image.png?ex=658666c4&is=6573f1c4&hm=7d4778f9e612ee08b0112de7e878a4f2b10f5badca02d0473d8637a8fc0fdf48&=&format=webp&quality=lossless&width=408&height=616

so same damage, but lower Crit bonus and charge rate

might not quite work if you need a crit on one of the attacks

but I'll watch the clip whenever you post it

[glossy ember]

fyi you can one shot shotgunners at low warp stacks without a crit

[glossy ember]

i think if you roll high enough you get to 1100 non crit

so so long as you get one high roll

it should be a kill

[vast yew]

the fact that it even has damage rolls is so stupid lol

[late yew]

you know what

[glossy ember]

i don't

[late yew]

I changed my mind about EP with smite again

[glossy ember]

yeah

[late yew]

i again think that it is great

[glossy ember]

wish they'd do away with that

[late yew]

Just look at the trash kills

[vast yew]

Was that a Heresy run?

might be me misremembering but only 1200 lesser enemies feels like Auric Heresy to me

[echo frigate]

EP with smite is quite nice bc it can actually kill elites which is basically like EP BB but way better

[late yew]

@near wyvern

[late yew]

it was auric...

and not auric

not heresy*

damnation obviously

[vast yew]

okie dokies then, for some reason that enemy count just felt low

could've been a fast map

[late yew]

I did not join from the start

[vast yew]

AHHHH ok

[late yew]

i joined in the middle*

[vast yew]

that makes sense then

yeah EP + Smite works, it's just very heavily debatable whether it works better than Smite + Shriek Spam w/ WS

[echo frigate]

Why not do both?

Ya need a blitz

[vast yew]

because EP and WS are mutually exclusive

[late yew]

Considering EP + Smite allows you to have bubble...

it is >>> shriek

while having roughle same waveclear

[echo frigate]

WARP CHARGES OHHHHHHHHH

[vast yew]

Yeah WS = Warp Siphon lol

I think the bigger problem is that 3/4 of the staves don't need help waveclearing

with Surge staff it can work

[late yew]

well OBVIOUSLY you take smite only with surge or guns

[vast yew]

Also Voidstrike, but you're not using it except as a panic button there

but yeah Palpatine.Build is a fun one

Lightning all the things

[late yew]

Also actually works perfectly with guns

Laspistol + DS + scrier + smite + EP

really good build

[vast yew]

need to get a good Laspistol first 😦

[grand scroll]

Accatran or Kantrael?

[vast yew]

Hadron blessed me with staves but has been incredibly picky with guns

[late yew]

Any

[grand scroll]

Asking Delta on which one they'd prefer.

[vast yew]

Oh uh either really

[grand scroll]

Okay

[late yew]

ok, you can ignore me, like i even care cries in corner

[vast yew]

but the Armory refuses to give me one with damage higher than like 56

so I keep waiting lol

[glossy ember]

its ok saltydwarf i believe in u

[vast yew]

Booden, the accident was years ago, you have to let him go

[glossy ember]

[vast yew]

I think if Psyker had some slightly better nodes in the middle it'd help EP out, as the big reason to take EP over WS is that it saves you 2 points but it can be hard to actually spend them in a meaningful way

[glossy ember]

lawdy what is happening to brunt

[vast yew]

But instead they jammed stuff like "you give your allies some copium if one of them goes down" and "you can quell without sliding" in there

[vast yew]

is it still possible to sign up for this extension? I'd heard outside shop plugins kinda died

[glossy ember]

idk been working fine for me

[vast yew]

do you happen to have a link?

[glossy ember]

it's the firefox extension

atoma cloud

"armoury exchange"

[vast yew]

aight imma try it

once I get home

you can still buy through it right?

[glossy ember]

oh

i dunno

never tried

[vast yew]

oh

yeah I was talking about the extension that let you buy items from outside the game

[glossy ember]

oh i just look at them

i don't buy em

i log in to buy

[vast yew]

I'd heard it's got some backend API issues or something

Fatshark and the dev trying to work something out becuase as-is it's a bit risky

I think if I saw a perfect 380 spawn at work while I couldn't buy it I'd just scream

[glossy ember]

have you not considered uh

nvidia whatever

geforce now

[vast yew]

I had not; might be terrified of my boss walking in and seeing it open on my screen anyhow

but given we're going into holidays things are gonna get more lax so maybe I get it just to buy stuff?

[glossy ember]

my colleagues have been doing it earlier than me

but ye not worth risking ur job for a perfect 380 roll

if the boss is mad uptight

[vast yew]

more the location

can't have my phone on me in my cubicle

[glossy ember]

oof

[plucky flax]

You can't sign up for darkti.de anymore. That's the page to buy stuff remotely.

FS pulled the api thingy.

Probably because they didn't want people to play their game while not playing thier game.

[glossy ember]

ugh

[plucky flax]

I can still use it because I was already authenticated.

[vast yew]

ah yeah that's what I thought, poopies

[plucky flax]

But 1 day if FS deauthenticate the 600 odd people who are on it.

Then that's it.

From the page's dev.

They removed it and didn't give any reason why.. because they want people to log in to their game to inflate play time probably.

FartShart moment.

[vast yew]

"People are buying items while at work, how dare they not be playing our game at work instead"

[near wyvern]

Not anymore, now it's +flak and crit chance again. +Unarmoured was needed for gunner one shots when the surge was randomly hitting body parts.

+carapace is only crushers and the shots to kill is defined by crits for them rather than +carapace damage

[vast yew]

ah okay didn't see the update. figured Maniacs might be worth now that Rager hp has dropped, but apparently you can two-shot them with Elites according to boodendorf

[near wyvern]

I guess I gotta test more them. It just seems that most hit to kill thresholds are defined by crits at the moment

[glossy ember]

mauler's the most noticeable one

goes from constant three hit to two hit

idr if it's one crit or 0 crit i'll test in uh

5 mins

once my krmmo lets me play something else

want my tests at 6ws or 6ws 5pt

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4

AND you can use Smite LMB quick taps to interrupt all specialists except mutants without worrying about dropping charges

[agile blaze]

Should I upgrade the Warp Nexus to tier IV or change crit chance to damage to elite?

[glossy ember]

tried to do a pro gamer move... didn't work

rip

bricked

[near wyvern]

Crit damage into flak, you want crit chance not crit damage you silly sibling

[near wyvern]

Yeah I don't do those, I just close my eyes and open them at orange

[glossy ember]

understandable

[near wyvern]

I mean you could still land like uncanny strike there

[glossy ember]

i attempted another pro gamer move

[near wyvern]

At which point you could fix it

[glossy ember]

switched precog to smackdown IV

[near wyvern]

I can't say anything else than I respect going in all the way

Honest work

[hot zephyr]

Brunt giving me nothing but +1 wound curios today while I'm trying to find +20% health ones for hadron to brick

[viral nexus]

does smite not hit weakspots anymore?

[echo frigate]

That's how it be on ogryn for me LMAO

[hot zephyr]

I've so far blessed three different +20% health curios up to purple and out of 6 perks rolled the best ones I got were 15% gunner resist and 8% ordo dockets. Everything else has been hot garbage

[echo frigate]

Just wait for melk

He blesses me with curios

[digital narwhal]

Not me

I was asleep

[hot zephyr]

The gunner resist one is probably serviceable if I throw 30% tough regen and 5% health on it, the others I'm pretty sure are bricked

Gunner resist at least isn't useless

[left dagger]

huh surge is suboptimal for Assail Shield, but i like to zap people instead of voidstrike D:

[vapid lichen]

play it if you want

no one can stop you

[hearty oak]

might replace that 5% health with bomber resist with where we're at right now with fire

[static needle]

which gunpsyker weapon is best for pure DPS?

[ornate hamlet]

a recon lasgun if i had to guess

[hot zephyr]

Prolly Columnus or Laspistol depending on what you want dead

[compact bluff]

recon lasgun is the worst for pure DPS

[hot zephyr]

Columnus for elites/specials, pistol for Bosses

[glossy ember]

people were right, surge scrier bad with a competant team

@near wyvern 2x pro gamer move NOT paying off

[midnight cove]

Does psyker have a way to really burn down monstrosities that doesn't involve guns?

[glossy ember]

purg staff

and deimos

[midnight cove]

Oh yeah deimos makes sense

Surprised purg staff does good monstrosity dmg tho

Haven't used it much personally

[obtuse walrus]

I uh brain burst them

[snow coral]

yeah purge staff has always done work on monsters

get the burn stacks going

[midnight cove]

Yeah that's what I usually go for unless I can hit weakspots with voidatrike

[static needle]

Is the catachan 3 knife better at anything than catachan 6?

[obtuse walrus]

Then switch to void when I've ran out of ep and shit

[midnight cove]

Makes sense

Oh you play ep

Should probably give ep another go at some point

[glossy ember]

started integrating assail rmb in my gameplay, it's actually such a good tool for out of sight enemies

[left dagger]

not a bricked roll i guess, time to hope for lv4 Surge

[ripe yacht]

Really? I've seen this a few times and I can't tell if y'all are serious or trolling.

[snow coral]

i haven't run it in a while but before 13 it did

[midnight cove]

Maybe I should try scriers gunker at some point

Just feel bad about yoinking ammo lol

[digital narwhal]

Don't.

Just because we have Staves doesn't mean Guns are inferior.

Like, a Zealot, Veteran, or Ogryn could've joined instead, and you still get access to Assail, so-

y'know.

[midnight cove]

When I got the notification for this message I thought it was replying to me saying maybe I should try it out lmfao

[digital narwhal]

Lmao nah

I'm the biggest Gun Psyker shill here

[midnight cove]

Fair point though