psyker-class

[mighty cipher]

The more you learn I guess

[bleak tulip]

I wanna say I shot a staff left click at her leg before

and didnt pull her

wouldnt recommend it tho

[tired knoll]

i once woke a dh after 10 seconds under a dog so theres some gradual thing

[full oracle]

#psyker-class message

this build still viable for t4/t5?

Just trying to get my pskyer to 30 for achievment

[chrome patrol]

looks fine i mean its only t4 and t5 you dont need perfetly optimized builds for those

the weapons work perfectly fine your blitz and ability are easily strong enough to also use them in auric

[full oracle]

Sounds good thank you!

[chrome patrol]

Np

[full oracle]

Just concerned about being burden on team

[ripe yacht]

Vibe check.

[digital narwhal]

Being revived while in fire, meanwhile I'm a two wound Psyker

My team literally just killed me

[lethal lagoon]

🙂

Just psyker things.

[digital narwhal]

Worst part is

I only went down

'cause the game froze and began buffering inputs

and so

I blew up

'cause it kept throwing Assail

while I couldn't do anything

[lethal lagoon]

Sure buddy, that's why you blew up.

[digital narwhal]

:(

[untold widget]

lol why did this staff turn out so good

[chrome patrol]

the build works fine how the team does its another thing in t4 and t5 you often have people that dont belong there you either manage to carry them or you prob dont finish the mission. assail is good to help the team in a tough spot and in worstcase you could switch to shield ability but i recommend to just try it out and rework the build later on your needs. non meta builds also work for higher difficulties mine forexample is a non meta build

[lethal lagoon]

I don't really know if there is a meta build.

Some builds do really well when your team sucks and are useless when your team is good.

For example.

[ornate hamlet]

right one

[chrome patrol]

that is true

some builds work better when your team knows what to do

but ie only met people like that in damnation auric

a successfull team usually knows what you need them to do and they expect you know what to do

[winter siren]

shield, assail, and void or surge is my default for pugs

[chrome patrol]

what i use with surge

and a defensive illisi

[digital narwhal]

I play Gun Psyker for pugs 'cause I'm weird.

:)

[lethal lagoon]

Slurpin all that ammo

[digital narwhal]

It works well though.

Two Staff Psykers, so I got to be quite liberal with ammo.

[lethal lagoon]

Was that a survivlist vet?

[digital narwhal]

No

Fireteam

[lethal lagoon]

Shoot

[digital narwhal]

If it was Survivalist, I wouldn't have taken anything.

[lethal lagoon]

Survivalist Vets

Everytime I play gunker, there's always 1-2 ogryns. I literally never run into ogryns otherwise.

Last time I tried to play gunker it was two ranged ogryns

[spark crystal]

I will run my ogryn with other ogryns as long as they are not also super tank shield taunt like me. I'll take ranged burngryns anytime.

[lethal lagoon]

I literally couldn't see anything cause they were always just slightly in front of me 😆

When the one ogryn, I assume crashed, and left towards the end of the mission, it was so relaxing. I mean I felt bad for him, cause it was an easy win, but still.

[digital narwhal]

Why not?
Ability stacking isn't an issue.

[lethal lagoon]

I've been having fun with your gunker build btw, thanks for always sharing your stuff. That was the 2 ranged ogryn one.

[spark crystal]

Ah, on Widedragon i will move 8 meters into the mob, taunt then fight into the next 8 meter section leaving everything visible to team to kill, and taking +25% damage, lit up red, and focusing my back.

[lethal lagoon]

Hit 1 mill dam for the first time on a non-melee mael

So that was cool.

[spark crystal]

i also stay to the side of tunnels and doorways

Ogryns CAN make it possible to play from behind them.

They just often dont :/

[lethal lagoon]

Oh no, I don't mind melee Ogryns.

They doin their job, it's my job to adjust.

Though it is nice when they flank.

Ranged Ogryns... can be tough.

I always try to flank on Ogryn too.

[spark crystal]

Ive loaded up as psyker with 2 ogryns and a vet

I said "good luck vet, i can shoot through them"

[lethal lagoon]

So tough to not play revolver/plasma vet for that reason lmao

You get so used to being able to ignore your teammates, going back is rough.

[ripe yacht]

L, R?

[bleak tulip]

l

[digital narwhal]

Left

[bleak tulip]

more finesse, I prefer unstable

[ripe yacht]

I like unstable, but I think I'd rather have deflector. Better tanking.

I don't need more horde clear. This is going with a Purgatus staff.

[stone totem]

Deimos, deflector, three stam curios, be bestest tank

(I have never used any of these things even independently of each other)

[lethal lagoon]

Pacifist run.

0 Damage challenge.

[stone totem]

Then, you get within melee range

You pull out your staff

And you special attack clobber them until they die or your teammate kills

Psyker enforcer larping

[lethal lagoon]

I kind wanna try that now in a pub, and see how long it takes until my team notices that I'm not doing anything.

They might even be grateftul when I rez them in bad spots

[eager sluice]

so dumb question does the purgatus count has soul fire?

[unkempt light]

It counts as Soul Fire, yes

[digital narwhal]

Yes

[eager sluice]

interesting... thank you

[plucky flax]

I got essentially the same columbus on all 3 human classes. Flak maniac dumdum sustain fire.

Most OP gun.

[fleet mason]

Is surge basically guaranteed to go off with the Voidstrike

Because it's going off like every other shot

[ornate hamlet]

No true aim, I take it?

[fleet mason]

I am using true aim

[ornate hamlet]

Duh

[fleet mason]

But not always landing headshots

[ornate hamlet]

Psyker magic then

And it's not hitting stuff behind the target in the head?

[fleet mason]

Most of the time I'm using it I'm focusing down a special

So unless it's counting in a wierd way no clue

[untold widget]

so you're meleeing a lot and then swapping to void and blasting a special?

true aim is the culprit

[fleet mason]

I do also have Warp Nexus and 5% crit chance

[lethal lagoon]

Melee build with voidstrike new meta

[fleet mason]

And the 5% crit chance aura

And disrupt destiny

[untold widget]

could be that then

way to bury the lede

[fleet mason]

I've never used disrupt before

[unkempt light]

True Aim applies with Melee Kills, yes

Just charge up your Illisi and lay into some Poxwalkers, then swap to Voidstrike and charge up a Surge secondary

[fleet mason]

Illisi?

I'm using Deimos

[unkempt light]

Ah, fair.

It's the Force Sword with the horizontal Heavy, and the non-sticky Special

But even with Deimos, racking up headshot kills on Poxwalkers isn't hard so similar thing

[fleet mason]

Just checking

Because I mainly use crits with Purgatus

So once I got this Voidstrike trying it out feels akin to cheating somewhat

[unkempt light]

Nah, it's fine. Voidstrike is a popular pick.

[vocal cliff]

Finally got this stupid blessing

[sullen bobcat]

French 🤮

[fallow meadow]

left or right?

[glossy ember]

[plucky flax]

Low crit bonus

[glossy ember]

indeed...

but built in 25 flak

and 80 damage

so i get to test out if it makes a diff compared to my current staff

well it doesn't really make a diff.

oh, unfair comparison, i didn't have elite damage on it

yeah same ttk

no changes

[lethal lagoon]

Left, flurry to Blazing spirit, Ranged Damage to Flak or 5% crit

I mean they are two different staff types 🤷‍♂️

So it's blazing versus rending.

[fallow meadow]

What do you mean? They are both truma staff.

[lethal lagoon]

I just mean Trauma with Blazing Spirit Nexus, and Trauma with Rending Flurry are different in playstyle and in some cases what you are looking for.

So it's not about "better"

They are different.

[fallow meadow]

Blazing Spirit trauma, never thought about that. Maybe I will make one later. Don't have BS on trauma yet.

[lethal lagoon]

It's extremely strong, especially on melee maelstrom

[orchid shadow]

Yeesh, I had forgotten what Heresy games were like. Picked up a med stim, vet complained about about greedy players, then he woke up a DH to try and get us killed. And he was the only one that died to it. =/

[lethal lagoon]

Leveling a new char is a fun experience after being 30 for a long time too

Heresy at lvl 30 scares me though, you get queued with your lvl, or the game tries to at least.

[severe folio]

this working again ?

[glossy ember]

wym

[severe folio]

the desktop store page has been buggy for me

all items keep vanishing

how did you get it to work

[glass prairie]

same

its just nothing there

[glossy ember]

huh idk i just refresh it

[glass prairie]

yeah it just appeares for a split second then disappears

emperor hates us

or melk

probably melk

[vocal cliff]

It's Melk, the god emperor loves all

Except Greg

[south spruce]

Seems like I just need to change perks on this

[small radish]

will randoms in heresy kill the smited ragers/elites or will they leave me while i max my peril stunning them all for ten years and then a horde is on me too and not all the elites died and the low level malice randoms left my slow thor ass

[south spruce]

[small radish]

do randoms in damnation/heresy know how to play?

[mint pivot]

Not only will they ignore the mass of elites you are perma stunning, they will also make their best effort to leave you behind while you do it

[small radish]

i must become a clutch god and just carry

[vocal cliff]

You'd have better luck in damnation (even if the odds aren't as good) than in heresy

[small radish]

yeah if I'm gonna lose I want it to be with the best

wait til i get my dome

wait til i get an 60 finesse weapon

[mint pivot]

Dome? You mean coherence bonus repellant?

[small radish]

repellant?

i thought it makes everyone come together for the buff

[mint pivot]

The moment i drop my dome or shield, allies seem to go "oh god that things blue, i bet it hurts me!"

[small radish]

and ranged immunity

oh lmao true

bro i gotta say not going dome is wack

the flat shield is like the earth bro

unreal

[mint pivot]

Just earlier today dropped a shield on a doorway, with like 3 gunners and 2301849378 assorted ranged specialists shooting at the doorway. Quess how many of my allies used the shield to freely shoot them?

[small radish]

i feel like blue sci fi shield have been a staple recently

in lots of games

people should understand they are one way

you can shoot through them and enemies cant

[mint pivot]

I love the stun shield when rocking missions with mass chargers/hounds

[small radish]

halo, destiny, overwatch

[mint pivot]

BLUE = WARP
WARP = BAD
Better shoot the psyker, just in case

[small radish]

yo does smite stun not work on damnation hounds btw

seems op but might just be a malice only thing

[tired knoll]

flip a coin

[small radish]

feels fun tho cuz they still don't diieeeee so i like it cuz it requires teamwork

[vocal cliff]

It does work on them

[small radish]

smite seems to scale really well like things that ignore mass on other classes

[mint pivot]

Big brain move is to let the hound pounce on ally for a free melee headshots 😄

[vocal cliff]

But you'll have to make sure the hound can be hit in the ligjtnit

[small radish]

yeah but if there's 8 hounds

[vocal cliff]

Oh

[small radish]

it's not free

i like the chain smite

[mint pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/its-free-real-sate-gif-7215175

[small radish]

and have allies wipe em

but people panic and spread out

[vocal cliff]

Smite is your best friend on the mixed hoards of craziness

[small radish]

try to play too many different angles

yeah smite rules

[vocal cliff]

Unfortunately some may not understand that

[small radish]

yeah

i need vc friends

[mint pivot]

Smite is literally gamebreaking IMO, it has sooooo much defensive power for the whole team

[vocal cliff]

I typically just use smite, bubble and VS, where I just spam voidstrike in the bag and smite mixed hoards of elites and stuff, saves the smite for those situations

[small radish]

yeah smite and dome seems to be a 40s reset for all encounters

[mint pivot]

As if it took you even 20secs to get the shield back in higher difficulties

[small radish]

smite is a free stun grenade

[vocal cliff]

I use bubble to block nådes, snipers and bombers for the team

[small radish]

smite is faster than a stun nade

[vocal cliff]

Much

[small radish]

zealot blitz are a joke

[mint pivot]

yeet knifes are fun

[vocal cliff]

It works if no one else can stun but they offer good utility in the situations they truly shine in

Actually

I've noticed as I progressed I used to only use assail, now I don't even touch it anymore

[small radish]

I think knives should stagger ogryn you hit in the non carapace armor or something

they don't do much

[vocal cliff]

It just feels awful in higher tiers

[mint pivot]

Assail was fun until i reached lvl cap and started going to higher difficulties where it just seems to not perform as well as it used to

[vocal cliff]

Brain burst exists

[small radish]

i like zealot guns better than a knife

but yeah psyker rules

just needs more teamwork

[mint pivot]

Last night was in a match with me as a smite psyker, flame staff psyker and 2 flamethrower zealots. No one was able to see shit but then again nothing survived past 0.2secs upon reaching the same zipcode as our team

[vocal cliff]

I mean if you can't see it definitely means the enemy can't

[umbral helm]

all depends on how you use it, really. mostly learning when more than how, but the how is important too. see too many psykers throwing assail at crushers

[mint pivot]

Dont think we stopped moving forwards the entire match. It was just a nonstop death march of purifying flames

[small radish]

i think if you really want to use the flamer as a zealout you should bring knives

i used the flamer for a kill 1000 dregs with ranged weekly

it's nice to have a real ranged option still with the knife

wish the flamer was less clunky

or staggered enemies

[mint pivot]

flamer feels pretty horrible after using the staff

[small radish]

maybe a really high rolled flamer feels better but it feels slower than just chopping with melee

[umbral helm]

lmb staggers with it, same with purgatus

[blazing echo]

It's funny, the flamer weapons dump stat is damage

[small radish]

it kind of staggers

it's so narrow

yeah i guess you need a better roll for it to feel ok

[umbral helm]

also, the reason it doesn't feel as good is because the flamer as a zealot isn't your primary tool, typically. it's for when a lot of stuff needs to die very quickly, usually chaff and maybe some elites mixed in, ragers and the like. it's not for everything you come across, especially not with its ammo reserves

learning when you need to have it out is just part of the learning curve

[vocal cliff]

Makes sense

Flamethrowers in games aren't about damage rather the DOT from the burning

[umbral helm]

also that, yeah. though, I personally built mine to also just do more damage, in general. blaze away and overpressure with that one node for more ranged damage the closer you are to things, it makes sure whatever I aim that flamer at isn't there when I stop spraying

[hasty breach]

is ability regen new on curios?

its no in the guide

[half iron]

throwing knife supremacy

[vocal cliff]

Nah it's always been around

[lethal lagoon]

Assail is still wild

[mint pivot]

It is. It just feels way worse to use in higher difficulties

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I guess everything does. Except abilities that rely on high density. I mean perilous combustion and flaming shriek are stupid OP on auric maels and mid everywhere else.

Assail covers a lot of weaknesses of certain builds and then it shines like crazy

[umbral helm]

as I said, all depends on how you use it

[vocal cliff]

That sentence could be used for 98% of any Darktide weapon, ability etc

Ofc the 2% being the outlier

[umbral helm]

exactly, you get the point of the statement. it's not very hard to figure out

[lethal lagoon]

Well, assail has no real scaling. So I'd say it's unique in how it functions across difficulties.

It's a weapon that exists balanced around auric t5 but can be used from almost the start.

[half iron]

i am willing to allow any and all assail hate

[obtuse moth]

how is it unique compared to zealot knives or brain rupture or grenades

[lethal lagoon]

Brain rupture is slow, knives are a meme. Grenades and knives have stronger limits on use.

[umbral helm]

perhaps, but the statement was about it not feeling good to use, probably because of how they're using it, so it ultimately comes down to how the tool is utilized, as opposed to there being an issue with the tool itself

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, I can imagine how I'd feel if I leveled a psyker post patch 13.

Watching my main ability gradually get weaker.

It was actually kind of similar, cause in Beta I was a BB spammer and thought staves sucked.

And watching BB no longer one -shot dogs was a kick in the nuts.

[obtuse moth]

assail was drastically overtuned

[lethal lagoon]

And mutants

And it still is, on lower difficulties

[obtuse moth]

its actually fun to play now becase its not a universal hammer for everything

theres more than just click and profit

[lethal lagoon]

Agreed, which is why I started using it haha

Broken shit is boring, if I wanted to be broken I'd speedrun t3s.

[sterile grove]

what perk should i change?

[lethal lagoon]

Weak spot damage does nothing

[obtuse moth]

weak spot

[vocal cliff]

Weak spot

[lethal lagoon]

Get carpace damage or something

[vocal cliff]

Id go Maniac or carapace, probably cara

[sterile grove]

yea ik weak spot is bad

i meant which perk should i change it to

but thanks

[lethal lagoon]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[obtuse moth]

thats what you asked

[vocal cliff]

Id go Maniac because it's not the mk2 with the strong penetration

[lethal lagoon]

Unless you need specialized advice, all the meta perks are listed and accurate atm.

[lethal lagoon]

Wut?

[obtuse moth]

eh? uncanny covers for that even if that was the case

[lethal lagoon]

I mean manic is an option, but definitely not for that reason

[obtuse moth]

and mk4 does more damage regardless

[vocal cliff]

It wasn't my main reason, I just like to try and squeeze my favorite weapon into things unintentionally

[lethal lagoon]

Actual heresy

[obtuse moth]

carapace and maniac are both good, just pick whichever you use the sword for more or struggle with more

[lethal lagoon]

But based.

Headpoking maniacs versus crushers take a bit more effort, and I can't really think of a psyker ranged weapon that doesn't easily deal with maniacs.

[sterile grove]

poking maniacs

i dont really struggle with em

so i chose carapace in case im facing off against 2 crushers again

3-4 headpokes on a crusher is fun

[obtuse moth]

i picked unyielding for monstrous specialists runs tbh

all the unyielding

[sterile grove]

i may need a better t4 ngl

[glossy ember]

agreed it's stupid strong and easy to use

[sterile grove]

which is the problem

theyll use it as a primary weapon and will quickly run out

[glossy ember]

i meant in auric t5

even there it's stupid strong

if you use it properly as in fire and forget

smite and bb can't come close to its general effectiveness tbh

[obtuse moth]

you can also animation cancel rmb aftercasts

[glossy ember]

smite is good for situational stuff but assail is just strong everywhere

[obtuse moth]

tehee

when you're lower on shards or throwing far

[sterile grove]

oh smite is really good paired with soulblaze'd veinting shriek

[half iron]

smite is paired with my pair of hands

[obtuse moth]

assail is really strong on melee/gunpsyker

[glossy ember]

yeah, but you don't specifically need smite to make use of creeping flames

[sterile grove]

i

[glossy ember]

assail is basically a third weapon

instead of a blitz

[obtuse moth]

its hard to take advantage of shriek on gunpskyer with the assail nerf. generally requires a force weapon of some sort for the peril

[lethal lagoon]

Smites constant ticks are more likely to grab elite kills for a PC flaming shriek combo in a high density situation.

But taking an ability you might not even need isn't the greatest.

[glossy ember]

yeah as i said

it's situationally good

[lethal lagoon]

I don't use smite outside of auric maels anymore, even then it has be crazy maels or I just go through the whole map without it.

Too situationally really.

[obtuse moth]

the whole point of insurance is to have it when you need it

[glossy ember]

assail just works in any situation that isn't a pure carapace horde

[sterile grove]

its good to have a smite pysker around in case tbh

[glossy ember]

or a lone boss

[lethal lagoon]

The whole point of insurance is to scam people of money and settle legal disagreements quickly and without violence. It also moves the government and banks away from covering certain things.

[sterile grove]

assail may be good but its not gonna be good for long if youre surrounded front and back

[glossy ember]

i mean it'll help though

[half iron]

assail may be cooler than a veteran but it’s not cool as lightning hands (and hand inspection animations)

[sterile grove]

i know

[glossy ember]

push > assail > swap back to melee and push dodge and you get both damage and safety at the same time

smite won't help if you're surrounded

[sterile grove]

not until they bring in atleast 4 crushers in the horde

[glossy ember]

because you're likely to get interrupted

[sterile grove]

which is so annoying

[obtuse moth]

huh? it both staggers and kills. and its instant swap and cast

[glossy ember]

true but thats when you aim it at the not crushers and melee/ranged the crushers

[obtuse moth]

its the easiest blitz to whip out when pressured between meleeing and movement

[glossy ember]

[lethal lagoon]

Keep in mind swapping weapons on controller is insanely annoying.

In case that matters.

[glossy ember]

damn..

[half iron]

controllers shouldn’t matter😠😠😠

[sterile grove]

yea but my crystals keep targetting the crushers

its not intentional

[glossy ember]

scrystal issue

[sterile grove]

they jsut do it

[obtuse moth]

get a better controller

[glossy ember]

[sterile grove]

pc

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I don't use a controler, I just tried to use one cause I was lazy and it was awful.

[obtuse moth]

prolly not aimed at you

[glossy ember]

it be like that...

[sterile grove]

yea

tfw your crystals focuses on an ogryn enemy instead of the horde coming towards you

[lethal lagoon]

The theory that they created assail mainly for controllers makes a lot of sense with how it was at patch 13.

[glossy ember]

wonder if they'll nerf it again

[half iron]

replace ass fail with a psyker punch

[lethal lagoon]

They might add something to deal with it in lower difficulties, but avg player is terrible with assail.

I can't imagine nerfing it anymore

[sterile grove]

Ass fail 😭

[lethal lagoon]

Asskers

[glossy ember]

how do you fail to assail though

[sterile grove]

I just want them to add a gun weapon we can warp imbue

[glossy ember]

auto aim

[lethal lagoon]

How do you fail with surge 🤷‍♂️

Man finds a way

[glossy ember]

you don't blitz cancel

thats how

[lethal lagoon]

The amount of people that think surge is bad is hilarious.

[glossy ember]

[lethal lagoon]

You don't even need to do that to top frag.

[half iron]

be a pub.
ez fail on anything

[lethal lagoon]

I'm usually too lazy

[obtuse moth]

i feel like surge goes into the ground more often now . i know its probably not

[lethal lagoon]

That's a visual bug, no?

[glossy ember]

surge's issue is it doesn't pierce so you still gotta slightly aim at elites

but yea

[sterile grove]

Maybe it's cuz of how quick it generates peril?

[lethal lagoon]

Oh no... look at all these flaming shrieks and free toughness, I'm so nerfed 😦

[glossy ember]

imagine using shriek

smh

[umbral helm]

invading in Soulsborne games has taught me to never underestimate how stupid someone can be, there's always a guy that the dumb thing works on

[sterile grove]

Or the guy that somehow makes it work

[obtuse moth]

a number of factors, target cap, higher ttk than voidstrike, peril, very inconsistent one-shots

[verbal dome]

anyone else think bullets hitting the telekine shield makes for a nice beat or just me?

[sterile grove]

(Brainburst+gaze)

[glossy ember]

all surge staff users should have 10 mandatory matches with scrier

[umbral helm]

hey that's me with my funny yeehaw revolver

[obtuse moth]

surge is a utility staff that does damage imo. but a big thing is that it also requires melee skills

[sterile grove]

Me too except wizard staff

[verbal dome]

me when surge staff https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aKOHKzhcTzY

[glossy ember]

based

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I get why people think it's bad, whenever I'm in a pub with another surge user, it's at minimum me doing twice his damage. I just don't know how people are so bad with such an easy to use staff.

[glossy ember]

because they're hitting the not important mobs

[lethal lagoon]

You just point in the general direction of what you want It has elite favoring targeting.

I think

At least it feels that way

[sterile grove]

So anyway brain burst underrated

[umbral helm]

I run BB on pretty much every gunker build because I just prefer it. it was the original gunker build with kinetic flayer, it's got sentimental value. also I run aurics with it and it's fun so there's that too

[sterile grove]

It's also good at damaging bosses

Especially that godamn anime woman rinda

[lethal lagoon]

Still waiting for scoreboard upgrade so I can see if I'm even effectively damaging those goombas.

[glossy ember]

nah pretty sure it dont

[lethal lagoon]

Then I'm just that fucking good it feels that way

[umbral helm]

though on the revolver setup that is admittedly more a melee psyker than anything. I run in with my funny warp stick illisi and cut em up while scrying and then anything too big for the sword gets the S&W

[lethal lagoon]

Scier's Gaze melee build on mk4 is so much fun

[sterile grove]

Illisi is bad at cleaving without its imbue!!!

[lethal lagoon]

Esp on melee maels

[lethal lagoon]

Psykers with revolvers are so fucking stylish.

[umbral helm]

I occasionally pre-lather the sword in mind juice before popping scryer, but it is mostly just weaving lights and heavies together and killing it all dead

[sterile grove]

Fair

I do like the deimos one tho

The lil poke one shots most enemies

The light poke

[umbral helm]

ye, I've used deimos for horde clear before. it's technically not meant for it but if you're good enough at the melee dance it doesn't matter

[sterile grove]

If it works it works

It dont matter what it's meant for just make it work!!!

Do the orkish style

[untold niche]

voidstrike build with illisi
what do when 2 ragers rush me? :v

[half iron]

does it do damage?
it can farm the “whoa john/jane psyker you are going crazy” voiceline?
it works

[untold niche]

common problem, legit need help @spice veldt

[umbral helm]

I'd push attack the two ragers on the floor and then q to void and shoot em, personally. assuming they're the only major threat

[mint pivot]

Personally i just either die to their melee or blow myself to perils due to panic

[untold niche]

how to push both rager to floor? the illisi push attack seems to only push 1

[mint pivot]

Or hold m2 and let my peril tank them long enough for some hero to swoop in and save my stupid ass

[vestal fulcrum]

Push one, then quickly push two?

[umbral helm]

well, yeah. you do one then the other. it'd require a little hand eye coordination but, perfectly possible

[untold niche]

but you won't have enoug htime to full charge to shoot the first guy rite, if you do that

oh you do :v
so sorry my bad

[umbral helm]

don't gotta necessarily, throw a few lmb's in, some half charges or whatever you're able to get out. it's about surviving, you do what you can. also attempting to keep an eye on what's behind you and making sure you're not backing yourself into a wall helps, if you need to give yourself extra space

[untold niche]

yeah with three its much much harder, need to abuse half charge staggers alongside the pushattack

[umbral helm]

to use soulsborne invading again as an example, something I'd always tell people is it's good to know you've got the level to your back, and what's in it. all about that situational awareness and whatnot

[untold niche]

oddly enough the armoured rager is easier to stagger, staggerable with just lmb

[fading patrol]

Rub your magic sword and hit their head
At least thats what worked for me pre path 13, havent touched ilisi after that

[umbral helm]

if they're already hurt that might work too. depends on the situation. alternatively, you could ping one of them and focus on just getting away, getting to your group wherever they are if they're still up, you don't have to fight them on your own, especially if there's a lot more than 2 or 3. I've had missions where there's packs of like 8 or 10

[untold niche]

nah sometime im alone and then back against the wall

[umbral helm]

well, shit happens. you do what you can and you either do it or you don't

[spice veldt]

if it's just two you can just spam illisi special lights if you can afford the peril

the special staggers them and the activation + light swing is fast enough before ragers can recover

[echo island]

psyker on dam+ is such a pain

Why dont they put me in high intensity while I play Zealot/vet

[untold niche]

tried this , if they are slightly apparent i won't cleave till the other guy

[fickle remnant]

As a non psyker player, I have a question

Why?

[untold niche]

also like

when i charge trhe second time

they wahck me already

[spice veldt]

you could be aggressive with the special light, because the first light is uninterruptible

so even if you get hit once, it won't stagger you out of the swing anim

[echo island]

No but like why do they keep putting me with other support psykers

like 3 support bubble psykers aint gonna turn the tide around on dam+ fatshark

Sometimes I went back to plasma Vet cuz some lobby really needed that shii

[umbral helm]

honestly, while I do try to synergize vaguely as much as I can to the team comp, I find it works better for me when I just bring in whatever I planned on bringing in anyway. fuck it, we'll figure it out

ran an auric maelstrom where me and the other psyker both had purgatus, it was an assassination target. we just said fuck it we ball and cooked everything, including the boss. was a good game

[quasi junco]

just having bubble doesn't mean one is a support psyker lol

[echo island]

no its literally the smite bubble build

every single one

[quasi junco]

oh a smite bot

yea those are annoying and bad

[zinc phoenix]

If you choose to build a psyker without damage you get what you build

Is entirely possible to run smite builds that are high damage

Also bubble bad

[quasi junco]

bubble is fine

[zinc phoenix]

If you want to use it for aoe toughness gain it’s merely mediocre, but as gunner resist it’s bad

And you are giving up powerhouses shriek for it

[quasi junco]

i like it on void so I can pewpew safely, to place over bonbons, and people getting revived

for nets

[zinc phoenix]

Vet toughness gain skill for group give aoe stagger, instant regen, overcharge toughness. Zealot Relic staggers bosses and everything else and gives massive over toughness. Both also give damage to team

Psyker bubble blocks an enemy everyone already max resist against, does nothing vs fire/rager/crusher

Toughness DR but only on burst 🤢

And in return you give up a massive area spammy stagger skill that turns peril into huge damage

[quasi junco]

shriek isn't that great on voidstrike imo, the bubble does more for me

its great on my purg build tho

[glossy ember]

don't forget it blocks flamers, trappers, shotgunners, regular gunners, beast of nurgle, and can hinder bomber

it also causes any mutie to be instantlh staggered if they get hit inside the bubble

[plucky flax]

Block bombers mvp

My toe 1s in fire and I'm ded

[glossy ember]

yeah

the most important part rn

[plucky flax]

But I don't play bubble.

[hearty oak]

I like the lightning staff but oh my god. doing the animation cancel so many times is going to give me an aneurysm

[royal granite]

why what

[obtuse walrus]

Shadow Wizard Money Gang

(We love casting spells)

[zinc phoenix]

Reality: bubble burst and the idiot inside dies in most uses I’ve seen on auric damn

[worn canopy]

Psyker bubble is great

[zinc phoenix]

At sucking

[worn cypress]

the bubble itself is great, I find the problem being people suddenly forgot how to play and sits under the bubble for way longer than they should

the psyker who brought it but also the rest of the teammates

[torn schooner]

Does the celerity stim actually increase the charge time of my staff (voidstrike) or does it just feel like it? Without the stim my peril goes from 0 -> ~12% when fully charging and with the stim it goes to around 15%

Patch note does say "Increase the following by 25%:
Charge up time of Plasma guns, Psyker’s Brain Burst and Psyker Staves."
But I really assumed that it would be faster not slower

[summer prairie]

Saw a bug report about it

[wind wadi]

hey yall how many targets does assail pierce with the node?

[golden stirrup]

do you have to pay a sub to instal mods?

[summer prairie]

no

[wind wadi]

no

[golden stirrup]

ok ty

[torn schooner]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3094028505
"Ethereal Shards
Lets Assail hit one more target, up from 2 to 3. If Empowered Psionics is active, this is doubled, up to 6 targets; Carapace cannot be cleaved by default."

[cold geode]

The sub on nexus mods is there to help keep the site running. You can download shit for free but the DL speed will be slow.

[hearty oak]

slow

[tiny jasper]

Hello
Do you have any build to recommend ?
I haven't played the game since 2.0 so I'm not at all aware of the nerfs/buff the classes have received 🫠

[summer prairie]

"charge_duration = charge_duration * stat_buffs.charge_up_time" and charge_up_time buff from the stimm is 0.25 (or 1.25 in math). It just needs a negative sign, I believe

[cold geode]

Yep. Slow. Though that's relative to the size of the mod. Darktides shit is tiny.

[quasi junco]

lol darktide mods are like 500kb

[cold geode]

Either way I have a lifetime sub so.😝

[royal granite]

what perks do y'all build on trauma?

[glass forge]

I like blaze on crit , although it only does 100 bonus fire damage. But looks great and u don't have to run all over just to kill off half dead trash enemies. So I build as much crit as possible

[royal granite]

perks

these

[hearty oak]

why do you need all these mods? Is the base game not good enough for you?

[cold geode]

Correct*

[hearty oak]

Heckin love it when someone says it

[cold geode]

Also, have you ever played a Bethesda game?

Lol

[quasi junco]

woo just hit true level 100 on my space wizard

bask in my awesomeness

[prisma dawn]

Warp Battery seems like a pretty absurd challenge

And so does Power Up

Like they don't seem in line with other challenges for other classes

[hexed geyser]

Battery you just dont use you ult for 5 minutes.

[prisma dawn]

Warp charges decay

I have to personally kill Elites and Specials every 25 seconds for 5 minutes without using my ult

[hexed geyser]

Yeah its a hard challenge

[prisma dawn]

Teammates can steal kills and if there's an elevator then you're tough outta luck

[hexed geyser]

Also take throneside for no elevator.

[prisma dawn]

Tbh I can't be bothered

[hexed geyser]

Me neither until its the last one i need. That and pushing 7 ennemies

[orchid nest]

It was a lot easier for sure before the talents

[prisma dawn]

If it wasn't 300 consecutive seconds but just 300 total it'd feel much more fair

[orchid nest]

It was just designed under old brain burst where you could kill even a chaff mob with it for a warp charge. So it was in line with the other malice level ones back then but now it's a bit harder.

[prisma dawn]

And killing -100- Elites and Specials -with- Brain Burst -while- at maximum charges seems insane for a blue cosmetic

[hexed geyser]

Its in a row?? Damn i didnt read it in a while i tought keeping it was just the easier strategy.

[prisma dawn]

That explains it

It's consecutive yeah

[orchid nest]

Yeah they probably need to rework it now

[hexed geyser]

Nah just nerf assail

[bright mica]

yeah it's tolerable on a voidstrike no ability build if you roll a premade

Auric Damn and let them leave easy specials to you

I've gotten it by accident on that build lol

[prisma dawn]

Just seems a bit too much compared to the average challenge

[bright mica]

Zealots speedrun is prob still the worst especially since it ruins many pub games

[hexed geyser]

Well there's a zealot one where you finish damnation in 20 minutes with under 20% health for 75% of the time...

[prisma dawn]

Yeah but that's private game only

[hexed geyser]

Lol we tought the same one

[orchid nest]

I think the zealot speedrun one is private only now

[bright mica]

used to be 14 mins I thundy

think*

I got it on release week shit was awful

[bright mica]

foolish of you to think zealot mains can read

[orchid nest]

lots of people were doing the cheese for it on release I remember. you could get it at the very beginning of a level by just taking damage and surviving for a couple minutes or whatever and then failing

[hexed geyser]

I had the game on release, played 6h, didn't like and didn't play until THE update

[bright mica]

similar experience except change 6h to 200h

[orchid nest]

fair enough

[hexed geyser]

In hindsight psykers were trash at the beginning and boring to play with.

[bright mica]

every class was trash compared to release zealot

100% DR when sliding

50% when running

[hexed geyser]

Balanced

[bright mica]

I quit the game when the community found that out actually

[bold maple]

thought that was vet

[bright mica]

that was my final straw

[bold maple]

vet was crazy strong

[bright mica]

vet was still 2nd to zealot imho but close

[orchid nest]

vet was easily the most oppressive early class running around like rambo with their 75% dr to everything with volley fire up with braced autoguns and bolters + powersword

[bright mica]

true. game is in a good spot rn tbh

more balanced than they could ever make vt2

ain't perfect but I'm very pleased

[orchid nest]

yeah it's been getting in a pretty good spot now

[bright mica]

when the biggest pressing issue is recons being kinda bad I think we're good

on release most melee and ranged were not viable

it was abysmal

[hexed geyser]

When we look at it its rare for a game to have so many good weapons.

[bright mica]

I had no faith in this game even after 200 hours

[orchid nest]

yeah lol. only having the obscurus for force sword and it just not being great. having slower peril decay with it out than normal mundane weapons. had to use a combat axe or something, and BB didn't work very well in damnation for a while

[bright mica]

now I'm at 600 and I'm even okay with crafting

latest plasteel buffs make crafting so chill

[quasi junco]

im pumped for any upcoming dlc

[hexed geyser]

Crafting is one of the best mechanics even if its not always fun

[bright mica]

did my zealot weekly starting broke and ended the session with 25k plast

love the plast buffs

[bright mica]

hot take I prefer darktides cosmetic oriented monetization over vt2 op weapon dlc spam

[quasi junco]

vt2 also did sub classes as dlc

[bright mica]

I get why people hated it on release cause the game was broken as shit

and you couldn't buy aquillas in sensible amounts

[near wyvern]

Hot take, I would actually buy cosmetics if they were reasonably priced and I could browse a catalogue

[bright mica]

I agree the fomo isn't even good

there's no timer

no "BUY NOW OR ITS GONE"

[umbral helm]

something something perceived scarcity or whatever it was called

[bright mica]

it's just "wait 4 weeks I guess maybe"

[tranquil plume]

vote with wallet , just dont buy

[bright mica]

they should ditch it

[tranquil plume]

i didnt buy any of the krieg stuff

[near wyvern]

They are continuing with it as long as they are selling shit

[bright mica]

krieg fanboys are the lamest wh fans

[near wyvern]

The moment people actually stop buying they are forced to do something about it

[bright mica]

catachan for life

[tranquil plume]

good luck hope the whales can sustaint the game profit for them

[violet oak]

Wasnt there a timer that they removed?

[near wyvern]

With the release yeah I think there was a timer but they removed it due to the backlash

[violet oak]

I'd rather not encourage shitty behavior

[umbral helm]

voting with wallet is a valid sentiment, if everyone plays along, but they don't. and people assume they won't, so they don't even try, and use other people not trying as an excuse.

[violet oak]

"lol you guys arent being shitty good enough" - said no one ever with 2 brain cells

[bright mica]

I'm not saying these are morally good things but without these manipulation techniques their attempt at FOMO objectively loses them money

they have a limited catalogue trying to use FOMO for sales

they utterly failed

[violet oak]

This guys username is very much fitting for this conversation

[bright mica]

they'd earn a loooot more if they let people buy any cosmetic anytime and just running time limited discounts

[near wyvern]

Well, in my case it's just a win win.

Either people stop buying them and the model changes to better and I will buy some cool cosmetics. OR, the people other than me continue to buy that overpriced shit and I get free updates for the game. 🤷

[orchid nest]

I agree that they haven't even been great at monetizing the strategy they have chosen lol. It's also kind of funny to me that maybe besides some head pieces that you can match with it most of it fails to be as cool as the redacted penance armor anyways

[umbral helm]

yeah, it's just an important thing to note every time the idea of "vote with your wallet" gets brought up. if everybody would do it, yeah it'd work, but nobody has faith in the concept, so it rarely works. be the change you want to see

[bright mica]

thing is Fatshark doesn't even know that unintentionally many of their players are voting with their wallets

how?

ask the average person why they won't buy a cosmetic that's available now

if the answer isn't "I already have the ones I want" or "I don't buy mtx"

the answer will always be "I'm waiting to see the one I actually want"

how many of those people still stop playing before the shop rotates to the cosmetic they're seeking?

Fatshark is losing thousands rn

[orchid nest]

yeah. good availability with coloring options so people feel like they have to own a wide variety to mix and match would make them a lot more. just look at warframe.

[umbral helm]

warframe does have a decent model in place. having a player-run "market" that the paid currency can circulate around in certainly helps it too. though not every game can support that part

[primal ibex]

what skill nodes should i avoid?
is asail a must or not?
I see it a lot but no idea if its needed or if brain burst or sith lightning works too?

[orchid nest]

the weapon skins baffle me the most. they often have cool base models but colors that don't really directly match anything they have released, and even if they do it's usually not even at the same time to encourage cross sales

[fickle remnant]

Why play psyker?

[glossy ember]

if you only use it for specialists instead of gunners you'll never have it be popped

[royal granite]

odd question

[zinc phoenix]

Assail is ok, bubble is bad, shriek is great

[royal granite]

bubble's great, don't be weird

[primal ibex]

what about gaze?

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/the-goat-gif-4115569673926897153

peak

[royal granite]

gaze works best as an entirely gun oriented psyker, it really doesn't work great with anything else that builds peril

[zinc phoenix]

The average person doesn’t buy skins. about ten percent of the playerbase buys 1-2, and then about .1% buys every single one and is where all the profit comes from. So rotating the skins to give those people FOMO is massively more profitable than having a large catalog for the irrelevant masses. The sole point of the 90% of us that never buy a skin is to be content for the people who do by providing them teammates when they join a queue

[zinc phoenix]

Great at being worthless trash

[primal ibex]

ok thx
what about keystones?
any tips there?

[glossy ember]

warp siphon and DD are both good

[royal granite]

alright i see you have decided to be weird, go on then

[umbral helm]

my friend that took a purgatus staff with scriers into an auric maelstrom, cleaned house and dubbed it "Scrier's Blaze" after: bet

[zinc phoenix]

Empower is bad, warp charges is awesome but the last perk for it isn’t worthwhile, DD is cool but requires some effort

[glossy ember]

wait how is the last perk for it not worth it

that's two extra stacks

[zinc phoenix]

Very marginal to get a couple seconds extra of cooldown or some minor conditional damage boost compared to picking up better survival or a higher crit rate or more unconditional damage

[primal ibex]

thx for answers

[glossy ember]

i wouldn't call 8% extra damage a minor boost of damage

[zinc phoenix]

SG-> DD is incredibly viable and fun but requires some practice to get used to

[royal granite]

8% more damage and reduced peril build is pretty good

[zinc phoenix]

It’s conditional, so it’s worth a lot less. You aren’t sitting on six charges all match

Especially if you are hitting shriek/dome regularly

[glossy ember]

you probably shouldn't be using dome that often but shriek ok sure I see it

still

[royal granite]

if you build for 6 charges you get them pretty often

[glossy ember]

for one talent point it's really quick to build instantly

[zinc phoenix]

Look you guys can do what you want but buying two extra charges for a point that could be spent on giving you much better things 🤷‍♀️

[royal granite]

like what

[glossy ember]

disagree

by the time you get 6 ws you already have all the essentials

[zinc phoenix]

K

[icy wyvern]

Also, less peril generation means more time blasting fools with my staff

[royal granite]

i like this cool new way of arguing your point where you just say something and refuse to substantiate it

really winning me over

[glossy ember]

can literally take all the damage nodes and still get 6 warp charges. With several defensive nodes.

[icy wyvern]

i win becus ur dumb

[glossy ember]

you're not gonna tell me you'd rather take kinetic deflection over 6 WS cmon

[golden stirrup]

as a newbie level 30, how reliable are the greenlantern builds?

[royal granite]

the what

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/green-lantern-ok-approve-gesture-gif-8009868

[golden stirrup]

community builds site....

[glossy ember]

you meant gameslantern

[royal granite]

i've never touched it

[golden stirrup]

I did, yes auto correct 😄

[orchid nest]

it definitely just depends on your build and what combat skill you have and how often you're dumping your warp charges. 4 and 6 are both good depending on that

[bright mica]

I disagree because Fatsharks implemention of FOMO is not efficiently exploitative enough

badly implemented FOMO can lose a company money

this is a really good example of how to fuck it up lol

[icy wyvern]

this just in: fatshark implemented something not as well as they could have

[glossy ember]

creeping flames version where you literally get every damage node as well as a bunch of defensive nodes and once again KD is the only thing you're missing

[bright mica]

they tried to be evil but fucked up by half assing it

[icy wyvern]

Evil. Sure.

[glossy ember]

unless you want to get True Aim for void staff

[zinc phoenix]

K, I’d rather have kinetic deflection and lose peril on kill

Man I think your builds are pretty wack in general

[ionic needle]

You really take 5% ranged damage over kinetic deflection?? 😮

[glossy ember]

oh come on that's not even a weird build for once

[zinc phoenix]

Like not taking quietude rip 😂

[bright mica]

what weapon is this for

[zinc phoenix]

“I hate toughness on demand” 😂

[glossy ember]

it's in the bubble build

[zinc phoenix]

Passively quelling still gives you toughness

Bubble is trash tbh

I’d legit rather have SG even for a staff build

[icy wyvern]

How are you getting these pics? is it a website?

[glossy ember]

yeah?

it's a permanant boost vs a situational talent

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor

[bright mica]

bood do u have me blocked...

[icy wyvern]

🤘

[zinc phoenix]

Kinetic deflection means you can ignore stam for blocking and can convert peril from blocking to toughness, it’s awesome

[glossy ember]

you can take it over soulstealer.

[glossy ember]

no??

[zinc phoenix]

Which is also trash imo

[royal granite]

bubble is pretty fantastic for a support build, you would not believe how many times i have seen the laser of a sniper on a teammate's head, heard the noise, and landed the bubble right before they get domed

[glossy ember]

is there anything you DONT consider trash

[bright mica]

I asked what staff the build u posted was for n u ghosted me wahhh

[zinc phoenix]

I listed several

[zinc phoenix]

Probably void

[glossy ember]

oops i thought i had answered. General but you can customize for the weapon, like purg staff wouldn't get the 5% ranged damage so you'd have a free node

[ionic needle]

Yeah but 5% ranged damage, does it even give you any worthwhile breakpoints? Kinetic deflection might be more situational, but for those situations it's pretty damn strong

[royal granite]

odd i think you have a problem distinguishing between things you don't like and things that are bad

[glossy ember]

i'd assume voids would want true strike instead

[zinc phoenix]

Two conditional warp charges is not worth a trait point

[bright mica]

imho with smite you don't need peril blocking, the main benefit to peril block is safe revives which smite can ensure

[glossy ember]

i doubt i'd be able to 2 hit maulers without it on surge staff

[royal granite]

12% peril reduction is great on a smite build

at 6 charges you can lock down a crowd for a long fuckin time

[glossy ember]

or 2 hit ragers with surge staff

[zinc phoenix]

No it isn’t

You want peril on smite for damage from shriek

[bright mica]

do not cuss please i will cry

[zinc phoenix]

That’s where your damage comes from

[royal granite]

block me

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re just smiting endlessly you’re basically worthless

[glossy ember]

ok so what's your build like

top heavy?

[bright mica]

you don't need KD on a surge smite build imho

[zinc phoenix]

For what?

I have several psyker builds

[royal granite]

damage isn't the point of smite

[glossy ember]

well show me the ones without 6 WS

[royal granite]

if you need to do damage just swap off

[zinc phoenix]

Damage is the point of all builds in this game

[glossy ember]

do you just go for more toughness

[ionic needle]

Yeah sure, of all builds, but not all abilities

[bright mica]

I've had a smite psyker effortlessly outkill me when I was playing voidstrike once, you'd be surprised

[bright mica]

#zealot-class your new home now

[royal granite]

also losing personal damage to help your team deal even more damage is not a bad thing

thinking that's the case is scorebrained shit

[mint pivot]

Lets all just focus on dmg from now on. If there is too much enemies to just outright kill before they reach you, you didnt have enough dmg and need to farm lower difficulties? 😄

[icy wyvern]

pick me apart and tell me why im dumb

[royal granite]

kinda attitude that makes you shoot bursters in teammates' faces so you can get the kill

[mint pivot]

inb4 "lol brainbrust"

[bright mica]

I could never as a they/she unchained main myself

[proud raven]

Lol brainburst

[mint pivot]

fuck teammates, they are in the way of topping dmg meters /s

[royal granite]

oh fuck okay i'll swear less

[spark crystal]

I actually agree with oddball on the purpose of builds in darktide. While a small amount of CC is relevantly helpful at key points... there will never be a time that CCing an enemy is more important than it already being dead and not needing CC'd.

[royal granite]

wait fuck

oh no

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9ad0f19c-b2d7-403e-a69d-2fe42d860a7b

[mint pivot]

I make an effort to deny others from saving fallen teammates because i can do more dmg if rest of the team is sitting dead!

[bright mica]

I'll let you say fuck if u tell me your fav unchained melee/ranged

[glossy ember]

what i'd go for if I were you

[royal granite]

i don't remember the names it's been a while, fire sword and the spear throwy staff

i know it's not optimal i just think it's neat

[vernal frost]

decided to open this chat for the first time in ages and first thing i see is people skipping kinetic shield

[glossy ember]

aight i respect the wildfire

[vernal frost]

bad timing ig

[zinc phoenix]

Brain burst is good but you are overspending and less peril isn’t as good as more toughness

[icy wyvern]

oddball homie im sure you mean well but you're just out here saying "this is because it is"

[royal granite]

toughness is a resource, it's not mandatory

[glossy ember]

don't need it if you don't get hit

[zinc phoenix]

Toughness is an incredibly valuable resource

[royal granite]

depends on how you play

it's worthless if you don't get hit

[zinc phoenix]

On auric damn and above you are getting hit

[icy wyvern]

"damage is most important"
"oh yeah dont worry about not having to quell, do less damage"

[royal granite]

if you have a lot of toughness and you regularly don't lose much of it, you should try to reduce your toughness

[ionic needle]

Killing things is also worthless if you just run past them

[mint pivot]

Why am i seeing so much brainburst + shriek psykers? Wtf happened? 😄

[royal granite]

i mostly play auric d5 and maelstrom, this is the place my thoughts are coming from

[zinc phoenix]

Why are you active quells when you can shriek to dump peril fast?

[icy wyvern]

bb + shriek is how i learned to play psyker dont @ me

[vernal frost]

cause its a good combo for warpfire builds

[zinc phoenix]

And generate even more fire damage

[royal granite]

between smite, bubble and being okay at dodging, i take very little toughness damage

[glossy ember]

i personally agree that damage is the end all be all of all builds as oddball say but that's my own philosophy when it comes to builds, i know some people prefer going for a more support-ish build

[zinc phoenix]

What diff?

[royal granite]

^

[glossy ember]

play combat knife, easy way to not get hit

[zinc phoenix]

Are you pugging or team play?

[royal granite]

pug

[icy wyvern]

combat knife mains wondering why their whole team wiped behind them because they hit every trigger in the map and ran

[zinc phoenix]

If you’re never getting hit at that diff with pugs you are neo 😂

Congrats, you have defeated the matrix

[ionic needle]

Or just constantly smiting

[zinc phoenix]

I build for more survival and damage

[royal granite]

i get hit, i just don't get hit that often

smite is a hell of a drug

[thorn cedar]

Yea my Psyker experience ever since the trees got added is that I either take zero damage for most of the run and only occasional chips, or I just get my health blown up instantly

[icy wyvern]

both, in the same match

[zinc phoenix]

Or fire

[royal granite]

imo quietude is enough toughness, literally regen toughness from breathing

[zinc phoenix]

Dip one toe in fire and you are fucking dead

[spark crystal]

I think heavy support builds are best kept to knowing you have 1-3 friends complimenting you to really get to enjoy the game. Support implies your team will do what you need them to do when you are doing a thing for them, otherwise you can become useless or angry lol. Double/triple randos wanting to copy your support build also leads to sadness when trying to move through the mission.

[zinc phoenix]

I like being able to build toughness going up on peril, going down on peril and while blocking

[glossy ember]

i love my meme build

[zinc phoenix]

And since I regularly run into people who can’t handle bosses I need to be able to tank etc

[royal granite]

yeah i will admit my builds aren't working as great with fire being as busted as it is, but devs have said they're changing that so i'm not gonna spend resources changing my build for it

[thorn cedar]

Ye and the answer is still the same

Gtfo of fire

[zinc phoenix]

Good luck 😂

[royal granite]

if i was in a burning house i would simply leave

just walk out

[zinc phoenix]

If you have a lake of fire in an area it’s fucked

[glossy ember]

even when i do get hit my meme build hard carries my ass

[icy wyvern]

I don't even remember stormfeinds or flamerats being as aggrivating as flamers in this game

[royal granite]

fire isn't solid it's not gonna stop me

firefighting is easy probably idk haven't checked

[glossy ember]

based

[vernal frost]

the worst thing about flame rats is the stagger

[ionic needle]

It's a good thing every fire special is squishy af

[icy wyvern]

Yeah, but flamers here just melt you lol

[bright mica]

Personally what I'd go for with your build and reasoning:

• Wildfire just isn't that good outside certain builds but idk maybe you're running a soulblaze Illlisi

• Empathetic Evasion will help you less than a +15 toughness node due to Surge staffs firerate

• Psychic Vampire is good but you'll find it's unneeded on Surge which on Auric should maintain stacks from elite/special kills alone.

• Perfect Timing is gonna be +15% damage for a lot of the game

[ionic needle]

And also they're loud

[icy wyvern]

god forbid a mutant screaming covers up a flamers audio cue

[zinc phoenix]

Not taking wildfire 😂

[icy wyvern]

bro you are literally just an asshole

[vernal frost]

wildfire isnt real (unironically)

that talent actually does nothing

[royal granite]

last i heard from testing, wildfire only puts out at most 1 stack of soulblaze on nearby enemies

[zinc phoenix]

Wildfire is based

[icy wyvern]

like when you woke up this morning and decided how to act, you chose asshole

[vernal frost]

up to 4

[orchid nest]

I'd much rather have soulstealer than warp expenditure, especially if you have an illisi. even with smite. still works either way though. quietude has always been enough on its own

[zinc phoenix]

If you don’t like me block me or fuck off, I don’t have an interest in your tone policing and you aren’t a mod

[ionic needle]

Wildfire is pretty shit

[vernal frost]

which is like not really worth a talent point seeing how many actual GOOD talents psyker has and how easy it is to reach them

[icy wyvern]

shame

[bright mica]

Wildfire is extremely anemic outside of Soulblaze Illisi/Trauma/Purgatus.

[vernal frost]

even with them you dont want wildfire ngl

[zinc phoenix]

And shriek putting fire on everything

[icy wyvern]

shriek is a "get the fuck away from me for a second" ability, less of a "die now" ability

[zinc phoenix]

Look if wildfire is broke rn is broke but being able to propagate fire is good even on builds that aren’t maxing stacks

[ionic needle]

The 4 stack cap completely stops it from being good

[glossy ember]

how do you feel about my build oddball, be honest

[plucky flax]

I vouch for wildfire on soulblaze build as top 1% psyker.

[vernal frost]

its a die now when you got uncanny

[glossy ember]

my scrier build

[bright mica]

stop being an ungrateful fuck. people are trying to help you and you're acting like a know it all with a big truck and a small

[vernal frost]

and decide to slash a poxwalker 3 times when there's 20+ stacks on a crusher

[bright mica]

unlikeable and miserable

[plucky flax]

[zinc phoenix]

I’m fine arguing with people about builds, people who want to tone police can fuck right off 🤷‍♀️

[glossy ember]

[icy wyvern]

bro you are NOT arguing

[glossy ember]

down with fire based abilities

[zinc phoenix]

You’re welcome to tell me my build is shit and your takes are better and that’s cool

I don’t mind that, but I am also allowed to disagree with you

[glossy ember]

thematically the warp is cold so warpfire makes no sense so fire bad

[icy wyvern]

Bro, your takes are just takes, you're not arguing shit, you're just saying "this is x" and that's it

Porche is better than Ferrari

[zinc phoenix]

🤷‍♀️ idc it’s fun and does loads of damage

[royal granite]

where did you hear that the warp is cold?

[icy wyvern]

Spaghetti is better than penne

[bright mica]

I just blocked him and you should too

[glossy ember]

reddit, very reliable source of informations

[plucky flax]

The warp is unreal space and space is cold.

[glossy ember]

understandable, i respect it

i also love my scrier build even if it's bad because it's fun

[vernal frost]

wrong

space is not cold

[plucky flax]

It's true you always see frost and stuff near psychic things.

[zinc phoenix]

Nothing of value lost 🤷‍♀️

[icy wyvern]

i still do not understand scrier

[vernal frost]

its a gem for gunpsykers

[glossy ember]

1)press button
2) don't explode

[ionic needle]

I'm going with this build and if anyone thinks anything is wrong about that you're just bad and you also don't pay my sub

[thorn cedar]

Scrier isn't really that complicated.

[icy wyvern]

ah, staves are too fun to pass up

[vernal frost]

you cant explode and you get your precious crits for your laspistol/columnus

[glossy ember]

just play scrier with a staff

[bright mica]

space is scary because the part of you facing the sun will heat up to 240 degrees and the side facing away will chill at a xomfortable -80c

[thorn cedar]

Scrier with Void is pretty alright.

[humble bolt]

All right side psycher is OP ass f***

[royal granite]

i've been favouring revolver over a staff for a while now

[zinc phoenix]

No keystone legit on vet, too bad it doesn’t work well on psyker

[glossy ember]

try scrier with surge staff

do it

it's fun i promise

[icy wyvern]

deimos and voidstrike as god intended

[zinc phoenix]

It’s legit and I’ve been gunkering a lot too. SG + columnus IAG is fire as hell

[bright mica]

can we get a force catachan knife

[icy wyvern]

it definitely is not

[bright mica]

pretty please

[zinc phoenix]

You get a LOT of mileage out of blasting with it and good crit chance

[royal granite]

i don't use scrier though, if the area is clear of trash mobs i slap down a bubble and dome off every elite or special with a gun

[icy wyvern]

no you dont

I want to run bubble, but don't wanna lose my get-out-of-shit-peril-management-free card

[thorn cedar]

I still don't really care for Columnus on Psyker. I do get what it's doing tho

[zinc phoenix]

I’ve seen some pretty respectable guys doing that, it definitively fucks

[royal granite]

i hate the ammo efficiency on columnus

[icy wyvern]

unchained was the first class that clicked for me and im sticking to it

[ionic needle]

Columnus IAG + DS IV is fun, quite squishy and ammo intensive but very fun

[bright mica]

ds4 + columnussy gaze feels underwhelming then at the end of every Auric damn I am astonished by my performance

[royal granite]

hell yes sibling

[glossy ember]

no scrier staff enjoyers in the chat?...

[untold widget]

I don't get gun psyker enthusiasts tbh, but I don't really enjoy killing things one at a time

[glossy ember]

[bright mica]

Assail helps save ammo

[royal granite]

that's fair

[icy wyvern]

assail psykers salivating as they see me trying to build warp charges

[zinc phoenix]

I tried it a couple times but kept fucking up and exploding 😂

[untold widget]

Scriers purg is a build I maintain just to try one day when I get brave

[glossy ember]

try it some more

you'll get it and then

you'll be unexplodable

except when there's literally nothing around you and you're not even in scrier

[zinc phoenix]

You’re probably right

[glossy ember]

then you'll randomly exlpode anyway

[vernal frost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1145030263403978802.webp?size=48&name=creature_of_hate&quality=lossless

[glossy ember]

[bright mica]

laspistol with gaze has the highest boss dps available to psyker while columnus iag is stronger on psyker than vet or zealot and by a wide margin tbh

[untold widget]

it's still one thing at a time, which is tedious and boring to me

[glossy ember]

just gotta get the hang of it and then you'll feel da swagger...

[glossy ember]

based king

i've yet to try scrier with purg

[bright mica]

I don't understand what you mean by that

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma and me also had a difficult relationship starting in beta and only recently did it really start to click

[icy wyvern]

I want to feel like a space wizard. Space wizards use staves, not guns.

[vernal frost]

wym y'all dont play the 4 wounds poxburster build?

[royal granite]

to elaborate on my playstyle: i run smite to lock down the kind of mixed hordes typical of auric missions, slap down the bubble if the mixed horde has ranged support, and once that's dealt with i'll swap to the revolver to start picking things off, or i might do it in between smite cooldowns to deal with disablers/snipers who are about to be a problem

[icy wyvern]

i feel like ive just encountered a portal to some forbidden knowledge that i dont know i want to enter

[untold widget]

With Voidstrike, I can delete everything in a line until the ball hits a wall or cover. With Purg I can evaporate throngs of enemies at a time. With Trauma I can light entire zip codes on fire at will. With Surge I can... well... it's not my favorite staff tbh

[bright mica]

you do you, I've had all classes maxed for hundreds of hours. Being an ultra fast gunman with homing magical throwing knives and a cool as fuck rapier is my fantasy

[untold widget]

with guns I can.. kill one thing, and then another thing, and then another thing. one at a time

[zinc phoenix]

Ok if you’re gunker smite then fine, your build makes sense and I believe 😂

[vernal frost]

zealot's not the only class that gets to have all you can eat wound fun

[orchid nest]

In my case I love feeling like space wizard but I've also done it for 1000+ hours, gun psyker is stronger than ever, and they are releasing things for gun psyker instead of space wizard stuff. and I don't care a lot for playing alts

[vernal frost]

well also vet

[icy wyvern]

voidstrike walkthrough

1. find door
2. right click
3. left click

[royal granite]

in those situations where you're in a tiny hallway and the game decides to hand you 15 crushers, you either need every one of your teammates to be on point or you need smite

[zinc phoenix]

Truth

[mighty cipher]

You forgot the most important step.
Repeat

[icy wyvern]

oh beans

oh god oh fuck i did

[zinc phoenix]

I smite shriek smite and that generally handles big blobs of crusher or rager or whatever

So that lets me solo that kind of stuff without heavy smite use

[icy wyvern]

I have a really cool and quirky exploit to get around the 15 crusher hordes

|| alt+f4 ||

[zinc phoenix]

But I also need tons of peril to sustain that so I use surge staff to give me more

[royal granite]

i will admit this build is not especially fantastic if everyone goes down and i'm the only one left

[bright mica]

Columnus can clear groups of elites (excl. crushers) and anything in between faster than any staff while you get all your toughness back and complete immunity to ranged attacks because 90% of your shots are crits.

[royal granite]

that's like, okay, better hope i'm on top of the duelling sword today

[untold widget]

It may be fast, but you're still doing them one at a time. Void can clear groups of elites with one shot if you position them correctly

[zinc phoenix]

I definitely prefer illsi with fire/deflector and kin d to ds after a lot of play with both

[icy wyvern]

i like the class specific weapons because they make me feel cool

[zinc phoenix]

It’s like a pocket shield without needing to spec into it

[mighty cipher]

It’s one at a time at a speed of .1 per kill. Also, most of the firearms have a small amount of pen.

[thorn cedar]

I hope they get around to nerfing those crit chains soon

[royal granite]

i like illisi but i don't like how long it takes to kill crushers

[icy wyvern]

min/maxed builds are great but consider
space wizard

[zinc phoenix]

And you can just walk in front of people to keep them from sudoku

[olive elbow]

so I got the purgatus staff built up from white. What does the warp council think about how it rolled? what should be changed?

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah agree, also can’t OHK the muties

[royal granite]

that too

[zinc phoenix]

But the defensive power is 👌

[vernal frost]

barrage to crit from peril

[glossy ember]

i used to love illisi but i think i have serious skill issue playing it

I get hit SO much

[icy wyvern]

yeah everyone in this chat hates barrage

[glossy ember]

when i play a diff weapon i get hit a lot less

[mighty cipher]

That Shitass quell speed hurts depending on how you play, slap warp nexus on that bitch and you got one sexy Purgatus staff.

[bright mica]

thing is gunker isn't really meta. I'd say trauma and void are. gunker is fun if you consider space ninja wizards to be cool :D

[glossy ember]

i'd use barrage

[safe merlin]

Does surge work with trauma staff?

[glossy ember]

(i wouldn't)

[vernal frost]

barrage really is redundant on purgatus

imo

[vernal frost]

on left click

[royal granite]

quell speed is a dump stat as long as you have solidity

[vernal frost]

yes

on right click no

[olive elbow]