psyker-class

[vast yew]

yeah blocking bullets is real gud

[rain meadow]

yeah well i want my infinite dodges back

[pale pilot]

shrugs

it's nice that force swords do actual damage now

[rain meadow]

uncanny strike is a solid blessing on weapons that dont already get to pretty much ignore armor

how good is it on the force swords tho?

[pale pilot]

pretty decent seeing as obscurus and deimos don't have a lot of room for you to safely use the special

[rain meadow]

i love the deimos

its grown on me

oh shit its midnight

welp

im gonna sleep

[vast yew]

it is mandatory on Deimos

[pale pilot]

go the fuck to sleep

[rain meadow]

gotta sleep so i can serve our beloved more efficiently tomorrow!

[urban sandal]

my beloved

not yours

[pale pilot]

and then tomorrow morning you can enjoy our wonderful artisanal starch slabs!

[severe folio]

the kickback orgyn is craazy

[sullen bobcat]

How's this staff?

[south gull]

is surge good on trauma?

[sullen bobcat]

No

Actual garbage

[spice veldt]

purg can kill elites as well; just not crushers
and better stagger is the other advantage of trauma

why do people have this "purg is only for hordeclear" mentality

it's not like soublaze magically has a 0% adm against elites

[south gull]

I have all the trauma tier 4 blessings on void and all the voids on trauma

[eager sluice]

so what are y'alls thoughts on this?

[sullen bobcat]

Purg is great for mixed horde especially paired with blazing vent. You just add another 6 stacks on top of 16 to really burn things down

[nimble burrow]

inspecting peoples gear for aurics makes me mad wth man

[violet oak]

"inspecting peoples..."

[wild sage]

vent doesn't have good synergy with purg though. Purg kills hordes fine without it, doesn't generate peril fast enough to reliably get to 90 on demand, and you're vulnerable to shooters without shield. And wall shield has extra synergy with brain burst with the extra charge so it all works well together.

[violet oak]

me, wandering around talking about blowing up rations and my dream

My dream is very blissful

[thick sparrow]

does brainburst count as weakspot kill for true aim

and do staffs count as Ranged for that perk as well

[sullen bobcat]

I took off literally all of my peril negating talents and reductions with the sole purpose of build peril as fast as possible. Hitting 90 isn't too bad after. I've used shield before, but I just run up with a deflector now instead tbh

[untold niche]

is deflector mk3 enough or better to aim for mk4

[urban sandal]

the difference between t3 and 4 blessings is generally negligable

[sullen bobcat]

Upper tiers of deflector is just block cost reduction. Technically mk1 is all you need

[untold niche]

so i cna still infinitely block bosses with mk3?

[wild sage]

Fair. If you're willing to have to do that against shooters I guess it's worth it for the crazy monstrosity damage.

[violet oak]

I used 3 for the longest time, yea

[urban sandal]

never used deflector but I've never had issues blocking bosses unless its a dh

tbf I use a dclaw that happens to have +2 stam locked in

[untold widget]

Empathic Evasion protects you pretty well against shooters while purging

[sullen bobcat]

Yeah that too. Purge is just another crit build for psyker

[wild sage]

yeah but you only get that while purging. I personally don't think the weakness in the build is worth it for adding soulblaze stacks.

[glossy ember]

based

[untold widget]

you also get it while spamming melee tbh, but yeah I just keep purging. if the gunners are just too far away I'll just brain burst em

[hasty breach]

does having higher ranks of deflector matter much?

or is rank 1 or 2 fine?

[spice veldt]

yes (to both)

[smoky linden]

I've become a flamethrower thanks to a really good stick and them soul burn perks

its pretty neato

[worthy rose]

how does assail hold up in heresy?

[severe folio]

it holds up in damnation

[topaz willow]

holds up good with empowered psionics

[hearty oak]

sometimes when i use empathic anticipation. I just imagine im gene from godhand just dodging attacks while standing still

[hearty oak]

its almost a necessity in aurics for wave clearing

[worthy rose]

really? hhow do u build it if i may ask?

[hearty oak]

Very heavy run n' gun style

but weave assail in-between reloads or before you mag dump

[worthy rose]

tyty

[gloomy magnet]

i always blow myself up when wielding assails with scrier

https://tenor.com/view/masive-skill-issue-skill-issue-yakudza-gif-14004060172467418456

[worthy rose]

wait do u run gunsyker with this then or still staff?

[hearty oak]

gun psyker

its what scriers was more leaned towards

[worthy rose]

i thought so i jsut always second guess

[hearty oak]

staff scriers is weird. too much down time and not enough time to get more usage out of it

[sullen bobcat]

surge voidstrike goes brrrr

Venting is dumb fast tbf

[hearty oak]

Its actualy the buffing of my force sword is what blows me cause i always forget thinking my passive peril will start at some point

[ornate hamlet]

EP is interesting with scrier for that because you get a free dart per charge and have more leeway to use it alongside scrier

[hearty oak]

staff too slow. MUCH faster with a bullet

[ornate hamlet]

AKA not blowing up by using a dart at 100%

Both EP and DD fit assail with scrier well

[worthy rose]

i havent used a single gun in this game yet lol what should i try

[ornate hamlet]

DD assail during scrier is very fun

[hearty oak]

Colum mk 5 and get used to the recoil

[worthy rose]

ok

[ornate hamlet]

The zarona revolver is my personal pick because I use the gun as a backup to my melee

[hearty oak]

The column mk 5 staff

The devs forget to make it generate peril when you use it

[ornate hamlet]

It pierces a lot of targets, deals a shitload of damage and has funny magnetism

[gloomy magnet]

columnus best staff

[ornate hamlet]

I essentially live on a loop of mk4 dueling sword for elites and hordes, revolver for specials and assail for shooters, gunners and horde backup

[sullen bobcat]

The only magic I need comes in 5.56mm

[hearty oak]

revolver is for the brutal crit build but not much for survivability tbh. columns i can just keep shooting and still survive

Be sure to have a copy of your carpenter brut playing when you go zooming
https://youtu.be/qFfybn_W8Ak?si=OP1IDOb_zpIXjOt7

[untold niche]

goddam ogryns are bik

[violet oak]

its a shame there isnt an emote that lets ogryns pick up a player

[odd siren]

So I havent played since the latest update

is assail still giga broken/

[marsh prism]

my favorite staff, cast spell of Riddle of Lead

[robust relic]

someone tell me what to reroll on this thing, flak -> carapace and transfer peril -> nexus?

havent played since before the whole talent tree thing...just starting back up....glad to see void is actually solid now

[queen fog]

Seems like a solid voidstrike to me, a cherry on top would be the surge blessing but i feel the peril transfer suits it

[robust relic]

doesnt need nexus for crit?

[queen fog]

With the rate ur gonna be shooting via warp flurry stacks you’ll be racking crits up

At least in my eyes, if u wanna swap it to the crit blessing that’s up to u

[robust relic]

makes sense, is flak correct? back months ago everyone said flak on most staves...but I dont really know the armor math and/or if it's changed

[untold niche]

should i rip blessings off my free t-axes or just recycle?

[queen fog]

Flak is pretty solid for many things, a handful of lads like cara too for pesky crushers but other than that flaks a good all rounder option

Since so many enemies rock flak

[plucky flax]

Purga psyker below both surge psykers.

[untold niche]

MR SELFISHHH i need sum recycling advice

[plucky flax]

[queen fog]

Is all good mr selfish I’ll try to help

[robust relic]

you're the best, thanks 🙂

[queen fog]

Np sibling purge well

[queen fog]

Yea my emperor’s gift consists of either bottom rolls, low rolls with decent blessings; or the rare decent roll

So ripping even the low tier blessings can be nice to clear clutter as well as tickle the itch of “oh I have that unlocked”

Personally I’d go for blessings since money’s easy to come by with curio perk buffs

[untold niche]

your curio give you extra dosh? :v

[queen fog]

Na I’m a teammate fanatic, all revive speed

Only like 1 of my curios got extra dosh on it

[untold niche]

athenanum doesn't mention about this wepaon, i assume its the new dagger, do i rip the t4?

like uh

is it meta

mercy killer

[queen fog]

Mercy killer is pretty fun

A lot of people are enjoying rending junk atm since they buffed it but capitalizing on those percent damage boosts are thrilling in my eyes

Like uncanny strike

Even if I didn’t like mercy killer I’d still snag it for the 4 tier alone

Considering the knife is pretty low modifier number wise

[untold niche]

quick qn does this apply even when you sprinting towards the enemy? ;v

[untold niche]

i see.

also do blessings transfer over the different variants?

[queen fog]

Yea a good factor with that is the “type” of weapon

Like infantry lasgun

Braced autogun

That type of crap

All infantry lasguns share the same blessing pool as their diff colored variants

Much like the old revolvers blessings can apply to the new one

[queen fog]

Yes I’ve closed the distance with many of pesky troopers running balls to the wall with this blessing

VERY fun

[untold niche]

tenks boss

💖 🫂

as well as @plucky flax, not sure how much dockets i need to roll a 80 charge and 80 blast one

[robust relic]

I dont see combat ability regen on here? it worth having?

[hearty oak]

I would think you regen your abilities fast enough, it didnt matter

[untold niche]

i took 3x comat regen as well as the aura
by right it should only be like 3 seconds +3 seconds
(maybe some other nodes)
but my timer for VS starts from 21 seconds instead of 30

but yeah, 12% of 30 seconds is around 3 seconds, CD aura is 10%, which is another 3 seconds
the remaining 3, not sure how i got it.

[spice veldt]

huh

maybe seer's presence is still bugged to give an additional +7.5%?

i recall the notes saying that they fixed it for prescience

[paper loom]

im thinking change sprint perk on this as i quite like the executor , whats best for a force sword?

[spice veldt]

but not for seer's presence if my memory is right

[paper loom]

as i use scyers i was thinking unstable power on my sword would be good too though

[hearty oak]

Flakiac

[paper loom]

keep blessings and change to flak?

what are flak anyway?

[untold niche]

test if you can hit tin can head man with 2 light hits, if cannot, then go flak, i think.

[glossy ember]

prettysure you already obliterate specialists with this weapon

[paper loom]

yea its a beast

[glossy ember]

i meant even without the 8% increase

[untold niche]

https://streamable.com/rk2zix @spice veldt

[glossy ember]

so it does nothing compared to sprint eff

[paper loom]

so keep sprint?

[spice veldt]

oh that seems normal then

23.x seconds

[glossy ember]

honestly would be what i do, then i'd go flak or maniac

but await further comments from other siblings

just in case

[plucky flax]

It's impossible.

[paper loom]

ty mate

[untold niche]

but both you and that guy have it :v

:v

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1%.

[untold niche]

top 1% luuuusur

:OOO

[paper loom]

anyone else love the new fire....had my team wiped out by a grenade on way to extraction last night just as a hound pack and several crushers showed up

[untold niche]

thats why i took 3x bombur resist

too bad its not fire resist

[paper loom]

i have x3 gunner resist lol doesnt seem to do shit tbh

[untold niche]

i think if you take gunner and flat toughness it would prob matter
anyway you can test it yourself with the loadout config mod

[halcyon acorn]

im playin with lightning and trying to CC as much as i can - but my damage is rather low - but stagger over the limit 😄 so the question is - there is any way to lower peril accumulation with this build - as i remember there was a talent that lock peril i place for some time - it was nerfed to the ground ?

[untold niche]

oh ya mr arco. how come sometime when i vent, no blue flame on guy, but i think hes taking damage :v @spice veldt

[untold niche]

uh vent flat out removes peril and and WS reduces peril gen, if the hint helps.

[spice veldt]

prob the visual effect not showing properly i guess?

[untold niche]

does that happen to you/

[spice veldt]

smite not generating peril was a bug that was fixed

[spice veldt]

my graphics are churned butter so I can't say I've pay much attention in terms of visual effects

[glossy ember]

it only really feels like it does on ogryn

[untold niche]

ohhh,i thought that it was the vs not proccing flames as a bug.

https://streamable.com/s5r03c
seems like VS isn't in a cone as well

idk all along i assumed it was a cone, its more like one straight file

[urban sandal]

which of these blessings should I take

[lyric burrow]

surge

both are good tho

i only say surge cause its needed to for the most meta void build

[tired knoll]

can just wait till you find one of them on another voidstrike

[urban sandal]

thanks

[grand hazel]

hello everyone, what blessings do people usually run on trauma staff?

[urban sandal]

rending shockwave and warp flurry OR blazing spirit and warp nexus

depends on what route you wanna go with it

[grand hazel]

i got this think so is wouldnt want to mess without until absolutely certain

alright, thanks

[urban sandal]

you could change sustained fire to blazing spirit and that would be a good staff

[untold niche]

a5histg
and this ogryn is scared of 3 ragers

jumped against a gunner

Im so distracted i blew up twice just thinking about the ogryn

[glossy ember]

just had a 4 ppsyker game

[gloomy magnet]

[glossy ember]

1 creeping flames 2 bubbles and me scrier

0 gunkers

all the ammo and nades in the map

[crude cape]

ok...after some testing trying to find a build that makes surge feel best. im starting to settle on this I think.
surge benefits a lot from warp siphon and some easy crit stat pickups. Getting Prescience tho means no venting shriek and I wanted that with surge so I could 1) keep casting and 2) help more with aoe while focusing key targets with surge at the same time.

I think this could also work with brain burst, and you'd have more points to play with. But BB feels bad, and it doesn't have much of a place besides literally just snipers and bombers lol.
I'm using assail similarly - its not buffed, which feels bad. But its literally just for picking off targets, and weaving with melee. The build focuses on surge and illisi or Dueling sword could work too.

thoughts? anyone else had success with anything else that makes surge feel good?

[gloomy magnet]

morrow will be happy that the squad doesn't need any ammo

[frigid olive]

the one thing keeping me from gunker is the need for ammo

[glossy ember]

i'd ditch one toughness node or kinetic deflection to get empathic evasion, it feels pretty crucial to surge that crits a lot

i feel assail and creepin flames shriek overlap in their job though

[crude cape]

hmm true. im a huge k inetic deflection simp tho haha

it might be just worth going back to the BB version that goes down left side, frees up more points

and BB at least has a role in anti sniper, but assial is more fun and weaving with melee helps dueling sword a lot on horde control

you dont always want to drop F and drop stacks.

[glossy ember]

i use only surge so i got a few builds but I use assail as my horde clearer cuz i go knife

[crude cape]

also its already a bit low on toughness, 146 toughness i think i had w/ it. so dropping 15 does hurt

[glossy ember]

ehh surge can deal with snipers with lmb

[crude cape]

im a huge knife simp on zealot, just not my thing on psyker when dueling sword mk 4 and illisi/deimos exist

[glossy ember]

this is my bubble build

[crude cape]

bubble is dope

[glossy ember]

with surge

and knife

[crude cape]

if i just rocked bubble maybe it would help

but i love venting shriek lol

[glossy ember]

imo venting shriek is that one where it's worth it

it does a million damage

[crude cape]

is empathetic evasion that good?

ill be honest

[glossy ember]

yes

[crude cape]

i dont rly notice having it vs not in my builds that dont rock it loll

maybe im not paying attn to it

[glossy ember]

my creeping flames build

i don't play it much though

[crude cape]

i like this a lot, ill give it a shot ty. i just wish it could get Kinetic deflection and perilous combustion

[glossy ember]

and some nodes are reversed for warp charges

[glossy ember]

you can

[crude cape]

would need to drop like, battle meditation and malefic momemntum

[glossy ember]

i don't like pc without creeping flames myself

[crude cape]

ya

true the synergy is nice

also creeping flames lets you push things past max stacks

or it used to

[glossy ember]

still does

[glossy ember]

could even remove quietude here

and get malefic momentum back

or the final bubble node

[crude cape]

i really like this. no KD but i could learn to live without it.
(rocking 2 stamina on dueling sword tho hurts without KD. Maybe i rock a +3 stam curio then? I'll play with it)
when do you use smite tho? I find smite weird

i feel like im not doing anything. and anytime i pull it out, i sort of wish i was doing something else

[glossy ember]

you smite when you're in deep shit

the good thing is smite + creeping flames will obliterate everything

and will build your stacks fast

might want to go for this though

aethenum has a smite creeping flames build i believe

[crude cape]

ya. im a trauma guy normally but trying to make a build to go back to surge so i usually default to spamming staff when in deep shit. i gotta get used to using smite. im gonna try this build rn ty. this is my default when im in deep shit. spam dodge slide and staff spam w/ quick quells lol

[glossy ember]

it's like, there's 5 mauulers 20 ragers 12 bulwarks and you got two downed teammates, and you're in a bad position

smite and creeping flames spam

[crude cape]

never tried that node actually, good idea i always defaulted to the right one

[glossy ember]

is good

[glossy ember]

trauma op smh

pls nerf

[crude cape]

i was really surprised i didnt die lol

thought i was fucked for sure when all those elites came down, fire was blocking, asnd a DH was on the otherside

i had nowhere to kite to lol

[glass prairie]

yo thanks hadron

[bold maple]

bro spend 90% of the game looking down

[glass prairie]

guys what perk do i get for this?

[crude cape]

lmao tru

[bright mica]

I kinda wish we had more dynamic staves

I miss beam staff with its blast

a lot of the staves play very turreted and it's kinda boring me rn

[crude cape]

how much do you think i'll feel giving up the 5% ranged dmg white node for Kinetic deflection on this?

ill try it w/o first

5% is a nice flat bonus, but i also dont know if its enough to really breakpoint anything/notice

[glossy ember]

it's like losing a warp stack

you might or might not notice it

mainly because of the final damage roulette of surge anyway

[crude cape]

what about curios, would you basically always run a +3 stam

if not rocking KD?

2 stam bars on dueling sword i feel hurts lmao

[bright mica]

Stam helps KD proportionally more

[crude cape]

this build is also REALLY low in max toughness + toughness dmg reduction.
im often rocking builds with 3-4 +15 toughness nodes and 2-3 +5% dmg reduction. so worried ill feel a tad squish

we'll see

ill try it

[crude cape]

oh for sure, i often rock a +3 stam with kd scales it nicely.
but without you at least have KD + 2 stamina to block with. Without KD only 2 stamina bars to block/push/sprint is pretty low obviously sprinting doesn't help, but you can sprint -> still block with KD

[bold maple]

all the staff save purge and surge feels like a boltgun

you got to pull them out, charge them up, set them up

[bright mica]

tbf you'll probably really miss KD the next time you'll have to revive someone haha

[crude cape]

purge is the most turret staff lol

you sit there and just litetally turret

while dodging

[severe folio]

see you fellas

im going to play with the nw evis and the new chaxe

[crude cape]

this too

[severe folio]

its time for sawing and revving

[crude cape]

or block a boss in a corner, or a randomly pulled DH being able to kite it for the team in circles and not die etc

its a nice tool

[bright mica]

I kinda only enjoy voidstrike and columnus on psyker but I'm a variety freak so getting thru a weekly is super draining to me

I can only voidstrike so many hours before it's boring

I've seen people run agri revy on psyker but idk how viable it is since its a meme on other classes

[crude cape]

not a big voidstrike fan, i think its my least favorite of the 3 lol

trauma is my goat, and purg and smite are fun

[bright mica]

trauma is alright but I can stand maybe one Auric Damn game with it

purgatus can be fun since the M1 stagger gives you unique and dynamic strategies on stacking elites and shooters

but then the M2 is just zzzzz

idk I miss my fireball staff. I miss my beam staff. I miss unchained wahhhh

[bold maple]

I miss the witch hunter captain class tbh

[bright mica]

Gaze is basically that lol

[severe folio]

i miss customizing weapons

i cant customize the new weapon

[bold maple]

I play with saltz the most in vermintide, only picked psyker cause its the closest thing

[bright mica]

I miss manbow

they should give ogryn manbow

dark souls great bow headass

[crude cape]

@glossy ember man 127 toughness with that build if rockign a stamina curio....lmao ouch. its a nice build dmg wise but damn. its squishy as hell. only 5% tough dmg reduction

[bright mica]

hey that's not bad, my purgatus build is at like 90 lmao

who needs toughness when you get all of it back instantly

[crude cape]

nah i cant do it

maybe i need an illisi

but with dueling sword i hate how vulnerable i feel this squishy, and no other tool but smite and creeping against being surrounded

smite is just such bad gameplayu lmao

i think im realizing i dislike the ability a lot

i think the assail version is the go to for me, much m ore active

[bold maple]

purg staff channeling dont get interrupted, idk why smite get interrupted

make a perk that let smite continue even when you’re hit and it’s decent

[crude cape]

doesnt bother me it gets interrupted

its just boring constantly spamming it and holding a button and looking around lmao

and then watching your team get all the kills too

same reason i kinda dislike chorus on zealot

[bold maple]

thats why it’s a support/defensive spell

some people like to play cod more and run full dmg and thats ok

I play chorus zealot like a get out of jail for free card, I go full aggression but if im a pickle I just press F and walk away

[crude cape]

would just rather have chastise and stun things and kill them + toughness and mobility

just more active

i hate low apm animation lock abilities

[fluid knot]

I take Chorus so i can ledge bosses an have on-demand oversheild for clutches

[bold maple]

yeah I want smite to be able to kill too but obese shark make it a stunbot ability so gg

[glossy ember]

yeah i don't play with much toughness

[crude cape]

when i first tried assail when it came out i thought "man...this is low skill gameplay just point in the general area and click"
but the more you use it, weaving it, peril managing, right vs left click, its the highest apm/skill blitz on psyker

[glossy ember]

i'll be honest i still dk what to do with right click

on assail

[fluid knot]

Thats a hot take... Imo Assail and Smite are both stupidly deadbrained

[bold maple]

tbh when I see smite in class rework trailer I hoped it’d work like surge staff m2 but instead of instant dmg it channels (good) dmg over time

[fluid knot]

BB is the one thats high-effort

[bold maple]

people actually think assail is skillful lmao

literally built in homing aimbot

[glossy ember]

assail is kinda a fire and forget thing for me

[zenith zealot]

but most annoying to use when people focus ur brainburst target more than vet's focus target pings

[fluid knot]

Imo you can tell a good Vet from a bad Vet with how they deal with targets about to be burst

[glossy ember]

i run 104 toughness

[zenith zealot]

assail gets more skillful if u try to use it for other stuff, like for example keeping peril up with a gun psyker build

[fluid knot]

A good Vet will ignore it because its gonna die anyway and saves them ammo, a bad Vet will shoot it anyway

[glossy ember]

it's nice

[crude cape]

its for sure the highest skill and apm blitz of the 3...
they are all aimbot abilities.
assail has the most apm, peril management, weaving, easiest to overload with, and requires the most micro to make work (swapping between right and left click, weaving with melee, etc).

im not saying its outright high skill to use or hard, but of the 3? its certainly the highest skill cap

[bold maple]

you can tell a good bb psyker from the target they choose to burst too tbh

if you channel on a mauler in your team’s face as they’re hitting it you’re wasting time

[bitter escarp]

Veterans don't have response inhibition

[glossy ember]

+3 stamina

[zenith zealot]

good psykers precharge their shxt

if u find yourself getting bb targets stolen, git gud at precharge

[bold maple]

good luck holding that precharge and slow movement speed in damnation

[fluid knot]

Nah they do, they're just rarer, i make a point of ignoring BB targets when i play Vet myself, though if i see the highlight on an enemy from an Assail Psyker, im deffo shooting that bish

[crude cape]

assail -> bb -> smite in terms of apm/skill cap gameplay.
I'm not insuilting anyone who likes smite by saying that lol. It has its own skill, decision making etc to it too.
but its the only one you can't overload with. It requires the least aiming of the 3, and the least APM/button presses.

to deny this is just denying facts lol

[bold maple]

constant special and trash mob take all your toughness in 1 hit

[zenith zealot]

idk why u'd precharge if u're gonna be in an empty field

and also dodge slide for movement

[bitter escarp]

meme aside yea, they're rare enough that it was remarkable back when BB was the only blitz

[bold maple]

idk why u’d precharge ever if you dont see the target and on the move

tard opinion

[zenith zealot]

didnt talk about precharge with no targets

[bitter escarp]

these days they don't get enough training

[zenith zealot]

just precharge, then latch it on a target as it finishes

so u guarantee the kill

[glossy ember]

lemme flex my top boss damage of last mission

[bold maple]

so literally the same as clicking on the target, lmao

[zenith zealot]

but u click on target last second right as your precharge finishes

so rather than wasting time and acting as a human highlighter, u actually kill things

🤷‍♂️

have your targets stolen, or guarantee your kills, take your pick

[crude cape]

precharge takes more charge time than normal charge, so you're idling not doing anything charging for longer tho

[bold maple]

people who struggle with having “your target” stolen need to get good at the game fr

[zenith zealot]

yea i was gonna say that, but i dont feel it rn currently

[bitter escarp]

easy to make the recommendation in a vacuum

[zenith zealot]

might have been changed

but if its stil there, empowered psyonics

[bold maple]

such dog takes, just ping one thing and get the vet to focus it and charge at another target

[bitter escarp]

also being a markerlight for your shooty bois isn't that bad

[zenith zealot]

i love brainburst with empowered

[glossy ember]

i've been really enjoying my new scrier build

malefic momentum is nice

[bitter escarp]

not like you're getting WC specifically from BBs these days

[zenith zealot]

not everyone pays attention to what u're pinging

[glossy ember]

shame no kd but it works

[bitter escarp]

assuming no force sword

[glossy ember]

although things are a bit too hectic in auric to prep malefic momentum

[bitter escarp]

yeah fair

how does the new knife feel for you vs the old

[glossy ember]

way better

[bitter escarp]

there's a bunch of new weapons where I'm not too enthused about the feel, vet shovels and new chainaxe in particular

weird variation in swing range across some attacks, floaty feeling animations etc

aight time to try my luck against the true endgame boss of Darktide

[bold maple]

error 2014?

[bitter escarp]

Hadron

[glossy ember]

assail my beloved

even when i skill issue assail is there to pick me up

[silver sphinx]

How's surge staff doing these days

[zenith zealot]

better

[crude cape]

nice, i see how you use that build pretty cool.
i just cant with skriers + staff and assail

i blow myself up lol

[zenith zealot]

best, depending on who u ask

not me

[crude cape]

im bad with skriers dont really get it, i leaned on venting shriek pre patch 13 for too many hours its engrained

[glossy ember]

a better showcase where you actually see me use surge staff

also creeping flames surge staf is objectively superior to scrier surge staff so

nothing wrong with not using scrier

[crude cape]

can you share talent build?
and how do you manage using a staff + skriers? do you just never pull your staff out with skriers pressed?
also w/ new knife, i see you push atk A LOT is that just the safest dmg i guess?

[glossy ember]

it's this

[zenith zealot]

honestly looks more like he's making space

[glossy ember]

I push attack because i need the breathing room

[zenith zealot]

with the knife push atk

[glossy ember]

also i couldn't see jack shit with all the fire from the sibling

[zenith zealot]

cool animation cancel

is it with weapon switching?

[glossy ember]

blitz switching

weapon is slower

[crude cape]

gotcha, its also a quick stagger + headshot kill on those specials elites, i dig it.
im just not sure how skriers + staff works. like, how do you manage the peril

[glossy ember]

at 80% i quell when i can

otherwise I switch to melee

so I don't blow up

animation cancelling surge staff also generates less peril

than a full rmb

think of scrier like a free nexus at 0 %

don't need to edge peril when you got that, you'll end up edging peril anyway because of scrier going up and up in speed

[digital narwhal]

Out here with more Gun Psyker pub stomping

[glossy ember]

where's the promised staff scrier grond...

[digital narwhal]

Oh I've been using it.

It's fun.

[near wyvern]

Columnus + creeping flames?

[digital narwhal]

I just like Gun Psyker more.

[digital narwhal]

Columnus + Scrier's Gaze.

[crude cape]

do you still quell with skriers active? i think i dont understand skriers lol

[near wyvern]

Brrrrr

[zenith zealot]

u use columnus + creeping flames??

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, it's pretty great with Smite

[zenith zealot]

is it paired with assail or someshxt

[glossy ember]

grond understands me...

[digital narwhal]

Columnus + Smite + Duelling Sword with Creeping Flames Shriek

[zenith zealot]

well yea, creeping flames + smite is good horde clear

[glossy ember]

you have to

scier makes peril go up automatically

[crude cape]

isnt the point of skriers to let it build up automatically to 1090

100

and leave it

[glossy ember]

no

you want to leave it when you reach 30 stacks

[zenith zealot]

u gotta stay in scriers as long as possible

[glossy ember]

ideally

[zenith zealot]

at least 30 seconds

[glossy ember]

so that when you leave it you get 30% damage increase

[zenith zealot]

each second grants 1% increase dmg

cap at 30%

[near wyvern]

https://youtu.be/wNoJPFX64jk?si=shAhoo6w0p4qz0vp

Forget about the light spam on the new knife tho, have a new video coming out, light heavy is your best option for horde spam on the knife

[glossy ember]

although if I could choose i would rather never leave scrier because of the 20% crit rate buff

[zenith zealot]

and it lingers for 10 more seconds

[glossy ember]

based ultrawidechad

[digital narwhal]

No, quelling is a genuine use case for extending the ramping damage buff.

A lot of Gun Psykers don't both since they wanna edge their Peril anyway.

[near wyvern]

Only the damage buff not the crit chance

[digital narwhal]

But it's neat on Scrier's Surge

[zenith zealot]

ye ik, heard

[glossy ember]

well for scrier surge the benefit is the crit rate more than the damage

consistancy

[zenith zealot]

so u gotta stay in scriers to get the true benefit

[glossy ember]

ye

[crude cape]

do you still rock crit blessing on surge? or is skriers enough

[digital narwhal]

Ah yes.
I too enjoy the two LMBs and then a RMB on Assail.

(It's weirdly satisfying)

[glossy ember]

yes i still have nexus

it only has two good blessings anyway

nexus and flurry

btw holding rmb with surge without releasing it doesn't seem to blow you up so

that's kinda nice

[zenith zealot]

nope

nothing that generates peril while charging blows u up

[glossy ember]

yeah thats cool

[zenith zealot]

ye

also i like how u need only 1% peril less than 100% to charge brainburst

as long its not precharge brainburst

[digital narwhal]

97%

You need 97%

[zenith zealot]

is it?

[digital narwhal]

anything above and you detonate

[zenith zealot]

i mean whenever i quell and it kinda just lowers it rapidly so i dont really pay attention

but i just tap quell and burst

[silver sphinx]

Surge staff can't get random headshot crits anymore can it?

[glossy ember]

yeah

well since last patch

since last patch a crit forced to aim torso

[silver sphinx]

no more abusing true aim :/ oh well, saves me some points I guess

[paper loom]

I have a nice revolver it has lvl 4 hand cannon and lvl blessing that suppresses mobs. Still can't find a higher surgical blessing than lvl should I still switch the suppress blessing even tho its only lvl 1?

[vapid lichen]

terrifying barrage does nothing so you might as well

[paper loom]

I mean both my blessing are currently lvl 4

It's handy in a pinch if you get swamped quickly pop a few mobs it cc the group

But surgical seems nice

[plucky flax]

I do.

[zenith zealot]

i mean it makes more sense once u know what blitz they're using

[plucky flax]

Always assail with guns.

Save ammo.

[zenith zealot]

i just use columnus with brainburst so i go there immediately

[plucky flax]

Columbus is just so op.

I tried agri just now and the slow fire rate is sad.

[spice veldt]

agri is nice for dem headshot BPs but you can really feel the lower DPS at closer ranges compared to the columnus

[zenith zealot]

only other gun that's acceptable to me is graia

for more accurate and longer range takedown

[severe folio]

my zealot can use thr agripina because chastised increase fire rate

[zenith zealot]

works with momentum too

[severe folio]

though i dont often find myself taking out my gun

with the new evis and chaze

chaxe

[dark swift]

Bricked or salvageable?

[zenith zealot]

salvageble

deathspitter itself isnt bad

it can stack up to 5 times, even tho the description doesnt say

[dark swift]

I got IV Dumdum

[zenith zealot]

test in psykanium, and thy shall see the truth

[zenith zealot]

replace raking with dumdum

[severe folio]

then replace elite with flak

[zenith zealot]

boom, salvaged

yep, not bad at all

[languid osprey]

Is it possible to smite zealot players so they stay in place for once and dont leave the horde behind? any mod for that?

[dark swift]

Is this gun the best for Gunpsykers?

[zenith zealot]

basically, yes

[languid osprey]

this and the lass pistol

[dark swift]

I occasionally use the Revolver

[zenith zealot]

sadly no

shouty bois will continue being mentally ill

[zenith zealot]

revolver's not a bad weapon, its a good all rounder even with gun psyker, u'll need some other way to deal with the horde tho

like illisi force sword, or devil claw

[languid osprey]

hopefully fatshark adds a feature with the force sword that lets u cut off their feet

[zenith zealot]

or your talents/abilities

[zenith zealot]

friendly fire? all the ogryns gonna die out

[dark swift]

I use assail for hordes

[zenith zealot]

there u go

no problemo

[languid osprey]

only for zealots that run

[digital narwhal]

It'll be the opposite actually.
Anyone who steps in front of an Ogryn who's shooting a Ripper Gun or a Stubber is gonna get sent to the Warp.

[zenith zealot]

well that too

but i have more melee ogryns in my games than ranged ones

[near wyvern]

Creeping flames + smite works as well. Just can't get free crits anymore from it but still.

[potent echo]

They're trolling, ogryn guns are all so strong

[plucky flax]

Just kickback and relax tbh.

[glossy ember]

the thing is that a melee ogryn is gonna be strong as fuck with ranged anyway so

any idea what's the base crit rate of assail?

[next zephyr]

[cosmic sigil]

Netflix and kick

[plucky shuttle]

what should i look for in a flamer staff

[feral verge]

This

You want cloud radius to be high

You want burn to be 76% or higher

Ideally, quell speed is your dumpstat

[queen willow]

Is blast radius important for Voidstrike? Or just a dump stat?

[summer prairie]

Assail has an extra_projectile_on_crit setting that doesn't do anything, but can you imagine

[zenith zealot]

im melee ogryn most of the time

ik gunlugger strong, but i dont want to compete for ammo

rather keep punies safe

[runic pebble]

I find lightning staff more due stunning enemies and ofc good dmg to iron cans ... i used flame one before but it s not it lately XD

[glossy ember]

that's be nuts

[spice veldt]

I've imagined it

the beast has awakened

unfortunately, there is no beauty for you

[glossy ember]

ultrakill boss dialogue be like

[spice veldt]

mankar shall receive 10 bad jokes during his job for each emoji he puts on my messages

[clear coyote]

What's a good blitz with scriers gaze?

[zenith zealot]

no blitz

or assail

if u think u can control assail

and not burst urself

[cold geode]

Just alternate, gun/melee with gaze active, when its down and you need quick ranged but don't have time to reload, use assails.

3/3/3 is fun with guns

[glossy ember]

assail nice with scrier

[patent wing]

which blessings does my mkIV duel sword need to 2 shot crushers

[feral verge]

uncanny strike

[patent wing]

yeah i got that

and 25% bonus against carapace

still need 4

maybe precognition too

[verbal shore]

whats the ideal perks for a surge staff? i have crit chance/damage but heard that flak is better?

[hearty oak]

Might be a setting for when they introduce relics that modify abilities. ||or a leftover setting the devs surely wouldn't just leave out for people to see||

[ornate hare]

flak and maniac damage for me

[obtuse moth]

crit damage perk is basically always terrible fwiw

its not extra damage to a crit, but a modifier to the additional damage that a crit applies

so if you have 100% extra crit damage, a 10% crit damage modifer and a 30% crit chance, its 30% of 10% of 100% eg an effective damage increase of 3%

weakspot perks work the same way too

[rare storm]

Anyone knows how to find the config file to change sensitivity?

[obtuse moth]

whats wrong with

[opal gyro]

Does damage (or any damage perk) matter at all for the purgatus staff? As far as I can tell it doesn't necessarily do damage on its own

[obtuse moth]

damage perks all matter

damage stat doesnt for the most part

damage modifiers affect your dot

that includes damage, power, and rending/brittle

[opal gyro]

Cool, cool. Does the damage stat not effect the DoT?

[obtuse moth]

no it doesn't

it affects the direct damage which is usually like 13 base damage +/- 1 or 2 iirc

you want burn stat at 76% or higher so you can get to 15 stacks, and radius as high as possible, ideally 80%

[opal gyro]

Alright lmao

Guess damage is the dump stat then

[verbal shore]

thanks! did not know thats how that worked i always assumed it was just a flat 10 damage to crits

[bold maple]

nah thats quell speed

purg staff basically have 0 peril cost

[obtuse moth]

damage is still a dump stat on purge

[opal gyro]

If both are low I can live with that, but if it’s one or the other i think I’ll dump damage

[bold maple]

you want to stay high peril with purg for the crit tho

60-90% range

[opal gyro]

Does the DoT get crits? Never paid enough attention :p

[obtuse moth]

crit gives 2 stacks instead of 1

but still caps at 15. 16 if you crit on the last stack

[rare storm]

It's ass

I run 0.2 is too low

and 0.3 is too high

[obtuse moth]

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=modify+sensitivity+darktide top result

[rare storm]

Bruh

This is the first thing anyone does

I wouldn't be asking if I couldn't find it myself

[stone totem]

I'm very glad they finally fixed the brain burst bugs, now I might actually start playing psyker again

[mighty minnow]

What’s the best staff for psyker and what’s the best lasgun

[obtuse moth]

?

[rare storm]

Read this again

It's out dated

Just fyi if you can't tell

[obtuse moth]

that file shows up fine for me

bruh

[rare storm]

It's what's in the file

[rare storm]

Welp let me know if you find it, I will eat my socks

ima brb

[obtuse moth]

i found the solution but tbh you've been condescending and combative. some people can't find the setting in the gui, and many people ask in the discord as a first resort. and i can read fine, you didn't make clear your issue or your needs and just assume i can read your mind, know what steps you've taken, know what didn't work, and that you're actually talking about the line and not the config file

not worth my time, but i'll let you know there is actually a solution for more in-game precision that doesn't involve changing your mouse settings outside of darktide

[fallen swallow]

k

[static needle]

anyone got any tips for this? would you drop true aim and movespeed node to get 6 warp charges?

[obtuse moth]

no

true aim is integral to voidstrike builds

every crit is 4x damage between crit damage and doubling the projectile

i believe the node below the movespeed gives you more damage than the extra 8% you'd get from two more charges of warp siphon

[terse saffron]

just drop the fires and peril gen toughness

[umbral helm]

it's free crit if your aim is good. also something I don't see mentioned often is you can get those stacks up with melee against chaff, if necessary

[bleak tulip]

8% damage from 6 charges isn't worth dropping anything for

[static needle]

i agree

[static needle]

Also, for this build im guessing DS4 would be the best choice?

all other areas of engagement are basically covered i think

[terse saffron]

melee is whatever meta stick you like the most

mk4 to oneshot mutants without crit and setup

illisi for hording if you somehow dont cover it with vs already

[near wyvern]

@static needle why not both battery and true aim?

[static needle]

big PP dmg with voidstrike, horde control with smite, hordekill with voidstrike and vent

[near wyvern]

You don't really need creeping flames with voidstrike

[static needle]

vent is amazeballs tho

[near wyvern]

Yeah but drops your stacks

[static needle]

i can keep my voidstrike pressure up

[static needle]

but since vent is good for killing i get them back pretty dang fast

[near wyvern]

I would go DD with void if you want to use creeping flames

[static needle]

DD is gross with anything that isnt assail or guns

or hitscan

[terse saffron]

then this build is pretty much perfect paired with mk4 https://discordapp.com/channels/727074276724965407/1046914150363844779/1183074640575353032

[static needle]

wtf why no shield talents

dont u need the shield toughness regen?

[near wyvern]

For what?

[terse saffron]

is the bubble really worth it to trade for warp rider/charges?

dont think so

[near wyvern]

You have soulstealer, quietitude and mettle

[static needle]

allies

[terse saffron]

the second bubble augment is a trap

yeah they dont need it either

[near wyvern]

Allies don't need shielding from dead enemies

[obtuse moth]

the regen is just ok, the dome is very clutch for blocking flames. especially with the current patch

[bleak tulip]

my build is pretty much this but with DD and yes I use ds4

[static needle]

DD is disgusting tho...

[bleak tulip]

and not bringing vent or perilous just doesn't feel nice

[static needle]

makes you focus on the wrong things in fights just to keep ur stacks

if you had assail it would be okay i guess

[bleak tulip]

I mean you don't gotta use it

[static needle]

cause assail is a fire and forget to kill DD targets

[bleak tulip]

also you don't really have to focus on shit to get max stacks

[near wyvern]

@static needle why do you pick up 5% elite damage, that's like worth nothing?

Staggering a DD target is enough to reset the timer

[static needle]

Since my damage is already so high from surgestrike, I like to pick it to kill big things a bit easier

[bleak tulip]

why did you pick up 5% crit over 17.5% CDR, that's also worth like nothing

[near wyvern]

With void you can just bowl through

[summer prairie]

it's just 10% now

[bleak tulip]

oh they finally stealthed it?

good

[near wyvern]

Because I avoid ulting with the void build to keep up +24% damage bonus

[umbral helm]

DD is a lot less of a pain if you focus less on hyperfixating on getting the stacks, honestly. you get them when you get them, and you're gonna lose them eventually for one reason or another, no way around it

[near wyvern]

If you see me ulting it means I fucked up with my positioning

[obtuse moth]

you mean 5% crit and 5% cdr over 10% crit?

[terse saffron]

yeah the shield is like a bump on the road to real damage

you use it like 2 times total per hishock map

[bleak tulip]

also I don't really respect the follow up from the crit aura

[static needle]

CDR is useless since I have psykinetics aura which also applies to teammates apparently

[terse saffron]

5% crit

[bleak tulip]

and vent is free damage, with how quick you get WS back

[terse saffron]

cdr aura is super worthless these days

[static needle]

exaaaactly

[bleak tulip]

you can just shout behind you and go back to bowling, you want it for smite

it's free real estate

[static needle]

with 5% crit i cant go vent tho and i need to to keep up the pressure to kill elites and get warp siphons

[plucky flax]

[terse saffron]

the one thats an actual aura slot, not psykinetic's

[bleak tulip]

that's certainly a take

my problem is more that empathic evasion isn't as good as one with the warp

[static needle]

you agree on this, @bleak tulip ?

[bleak tulip]

at least imo

[plucky flax]

No I only run the cdr aura. The 5% elite damage is so shit.

10% damage would be okay. But somehow they nerfed it to 5%.

[static needle]

When using staffs, yes

[bleak tulip]

I mean you could run the crit if empathic evasion wasn't.... rhh

I only use staves

[terse saffron]

why not prescience?

[plucky flax]

What's that?

[summer prairie]

because you can't get shriek with it

[terse saffron]

5% crit

[plucky flax]

No that's on the right.

I only run cdr aura.

On every single build.

[obtuse moth]

i havent run it often on gaze builds

[bleak tulip]

I could consider it if I ever ran a shield build, but I generally don't

because vent is so good

[terse saffron]

on DD build?

[bleak tulip]

DD isn't really a build

[dim parrot]

I once ran away from the eight legged chinese man

[bleak tulip]

it's just another option of keystone

[untold widget]

EE on purg staff is actually super important to have

permanent dodge on ranged while purging

[obtuse moth]

excuse me?

[bleak tulip]

I also don't run purg so I can't argue with that

only really do trauma and void

[untold widget]

you're missing out

[terse saffron]

it has a sizeable difference with warp charges because you dont get free warp res

might as well be a different build

[bleak tulip]

I mean I have builds for the other two but they don't feel as good

[near wyvern]

Your nick should be equinox enjoyer then 🤔

[obtuse moth]

purge is completely outclassed by blazing trauma imo >_>

[near wyvern]

Pretty much

[untold widget]

The other day I was running a sniper gauntlet and sat in the line of sight of something like 6 snipers and just didn't move

they couldn't hit me because there was a horde

[bleak tulip]

well I don't enjoy trauma as much as void

[near wyvern]

Someone trusts that emperor protects

[untold widget]

purg crits like 6 times per second so there was no chance that I could be hit

like not even sorta

[near wyvern]

Except that mauler behind you

[umbral helm]

gotta keep that head on a swivel, like an owl

[umbral helm]

https://imgur.com/nOQB6C2

it doesn't help in this particular case it was a trapper, because the running joke has been for a while now with my friends that they always target me, so the instant I heard the noise of one I reacted

[untold widget]

if they didn't target you, you'd ignore them I take it?

[obtuse moth]

why do i need to do that when i can just trauma at my feet??

[umbral helm]

depends on what's currently on screen, they typically get prioritized first, it's a toss up between them and mutants. but it's personal with trappers

[opaque stone]

what do?

[obtuse moth]

bombers first rn for me, then mutants, dogs, trappers

[umbral helm]

if I'm playing with friends, we've gotten to where we know each other's target priority pretty well, so we tend to focus on our respective things, but with randoms it varies. depends what they can handle

[untold widget]

Change perks, probably.

[opaque stone]

just saw there are only 3 blessings available lmao

[obtuse moth]

some blessings are tier exclusive if they only come in one variant

[agile blaze]

Does soulblaze count as warp damage for skill tree stuff?

[near wyvern]

Yes

[static needle]

For this build, should I run perilous combustion or psychic vampire (4% chance so get warp kill in any kill in coherency)?

[obtuse moth]

combustion is a nice combo with flames shriek

if you find yourself needing shriek more often it could be worth taking but combustion has good value when you can combine it with other soulblaze sources

[untold widget]

don't think I've ever seen anyone run 5% elite damage aura

[willow hazel]

It's werid that the 5% elite aura even exists when Vet has a +5% everything aura

[glossy ember]

id use it if it werent for it lockinh empathic evasion

[static needle]

I just dont find myself able to kill elites and specialist fast enough before my teammates, so wouldnt it be a good choice to run 4% chance to get one then?

[glossy ember]

and 5% ranged dmg lol

[static needle]

i personally dont think emphatic evasion is worth it for voidstrike at least

its only 1 second, not enough time imo

might as well just run better toughness regen talents

[near hawk]

Can't believe I played space wizard while I could have been playing space gun wizard all along, this shit rocks.

[chilly mantle]

I run it for breakpoints on brain burst lmao

[glossy ember]

doesnt voidstrike crit a lot tho

[static needle]

thats besides the point i think

cause it isnt hitscan and doesnt shoot fast unless u left click

[untold widget]

I just like EE

and hate ranged enemies

[static needle]

run shield?

[glossy ember]

i mean its also the fact empathic evasion leads to a 5% damage node

so it kinda makes elite damage irrelevant

[static needle]

true

[glossy ember]

you're not missing out on damage by not taking the elite aura

but you are missing out on cdr or crit rate if you take it

[static needle]

u dont wanna go crit rate tho cause peril-toughness reduction is super nice to have

in my opinion

[untold widget]

I always take OwtW because it leads to Shriek. I don't actually use OwtW

[static needle]

idk tho maybe the shield toughness regen can make up for it

[glossy ember]

i think its fine without but its nice damage reduction

[glossy ember]

nah

one with the warp is definitely better than the shield toughness regen node

[untold widget]

I'd have to give up Kinetic deflection to take the 5% ranged damage node

which I won't do

[glossy ember]

yeah but im just saying

you can get either 5% elite aura or 5% ranged damage + another aura

which is the same unless they're calculated differently

[untold widget]

I get that, and I run seer's aura on all my builds

[static needle]

i mean tbh you probably dont need it when you can spam shield with psykinetic aura and warp charges!

[untold widget]

but I would have to give up either KD, Warp Rider, or 2 warp charges

[glossy ember]

not worth

[untold widget]

or perfect timing

so

[marsh prism]

this is probably a dumb question but does soulblaze count as a warp attack?

[untold widget]

yes

what else would it be?

[static needle]

This is what i got so far

[glossy ember]

true

[untold widget]

I'd drop Soulstealer or Quietude for 6 warp charges

imo

[summer prairie]

definitely not

[glossy ember]

nah i'd drop the final shield node

[static needle]

but that helps me retain toughness tho

and helps the team

[static needle]

what would u take instead? PC?

[untold widget]

You've already got mettle, which true aim synergizes with, and that's gonna max out your toughness anyways with a voidstrike. Soulstealer is overkill

imo

6 warp charges is another 8% damage

[summer prairie]

some of the time and unless you are adjusting your charge time, you are just overkilling for more most of the time

[glossy ember]

6 warp charges

[glossy ember]

i mean not wrong, i just play it differently

i favor damage more than mitigation

[static needle]

which perk is better? quietude or the shield toughness regen?

[untold widget]

keep those, drop soulstealer

[summer prairie]

the toughness regen component doesn't really help because when the shield is up, you are shooting at things and instantly getting back to max with void in particular

the dr part can be more helpful I guess

[static needle]

tru

[static needle]

"dr"?

[untold widget]

damage reduction

[static needle]

soulstealer is dope tho

[untold widget]

then drop quietude

[static needle]

But like

This works tho

[untold widget]

idk, I just think taking mettle, soulstealer, and quietude is just overkill

you said you didn't want to give up the team support. If that's changed then go for it

[static needle]

ill go for it

[midnight cove]

this may have been low intensity damnation but this has to be the cleanest game I've ever seen lol

[static needle]

shield is to deal with ranged

[untold widget]

so is Voidstrike lol

[static needle]

lol yup

[untold widget]

remember, spamming left click makes them cower

but right click wont

because reasons

or something

[glossy ember]

it can help if u pop shield for melee scenarios rather than ranged but then you sorta incite your team to play in/around your shield and that could lead to a wasted shield if they dont or bad positioning

[static needle]

huh? wym cower? suppression?

[untold widget]

yes

they stop shooting and hide

[unreal wasp]

Will always like how you don't HAVE to be a squishy wizard as Psyker, can be a tanky Psy-Paladin if you so please

[hot zephyr]

What's a good knowledge / skill check level to know if you are "ready" to move to doing maelstrom missions?

I assume you should probably know the map and spawns points fairly well

[unreal wasp]

Try maelstrom

[hot zephyr]

I mean fair, I just don't wanna be that-guy who ruins someone else's good time

I guess failure is the best way to learn tho

[untold widget]

You'll never know if you can handle it until you have to handle it

[kind jay]

if it makes you feel better, most people are shit in AM so just go for it

[orchid shadow]

I was exactly the same, don't be me and spend 100 games in a level below what you might be capable of.

[hot zephyr]

fair, I guess worst case I won't get leveling folks if I play AM

[fluid knot]

You will a get a load of fresh level 30s looking for a carry tho

[solid sail]

I’m going to make a psyker named after a Sith Lord lol.

Gonna see if I make him named God Emperor Darth [Insert Darth name here] if people will scream heresy.

[fading depot]

Jesus this must have been a long match

[glossy escarp]

The worst that can happen is you lose the game and try again, if you're level 30 with decent gear just go for it

Way more people out there who jump into it BEFORE level 30 which is far more questionable

[near wyvern]

Assails are still pretty funny™️

https://youtu.be/mY2jlkkG5Cw?t=410

That gunner pack went poof

[near wyvern]

What break points?

[left basin]

hemlo

[static needle]

is catachan 3 better vs hordes than duelling sword 4?

[left basin]

what's the current best trauma?

[near wyvern]

The old knife? Hell no.

[near wyvern]

Fire trauma

[near hawk]

Archivum Sycorax auric maelstrom with a guy who'se game bugged out so we ran 2/3rds of the map with a bot, it was a bit slow.

[left basin]

is brittle bad???

is there are sample build or

i got a crit trauma

[near wyvern]

It's not bad just half as effective as it claims. You are better of going with nexus + blazing spirit given you have high charge rate and blast radius as by the time you kill the crushers everything else around them will be dead as well

[near wyvern]

There is a balanced sample build in Atheneum but you can also go all in on offense and do a creeping flames one. I can make you a baseline talent set for that if you want and then you can alter it from there.

[hot zephyr]

I'm lvl 30 with great gear so I guess I should just move on up then.

[glossy escarp]

Go for it

[near wyvern]

The only way to learn higher levels is to play higher levels. Start with meta builds and then after you get comfortable you can start playing goofy builds as well.

[glossy escarp]

^

[prime elk]

playing psyker... and jfc the fire changes feel so bad with psyker

just get fucking disintegrated

before i can even jump out of the flames

[near wyvern]

Combat blade is the best melee change my mind

Get out of fires in no time

[prime elk]

i hate fires

but i hate carpel tunnel even more

[near wyvern]

Try the new knife

It's easier on your index finger

[prime elk]

haven't tried it, yet how so?

[near wyvern]

Check the timeline stamps, you can see the optimal strings here, no need to mash the buttons like a maniac

#psyker-class message

They are showcased in the beginning

[prime elk]

ok thanks will take a look

i'm fine with weapons that alternate between lights and heavies, or stuff like ps where you're only light spamming sometimes

but constant light spam is just too much for me

[lyric patrol]

Read what the maelstrom mission is about, Maelstroms are usually a lot easier then Damnation because you can understand what the primary specials are going to be.

[bright cipher]

Hey is anyone willing to help me out with the Malleus Monstronum Penance?

[left basin]

is there a blazing spirit IV?

[hearty oak]

Melee maelstroms

[echo turtle]

Combat blade slaps. I've been saying forever

[marsh prism]

love it on vet and I still need to build one for my psyker

[static needle]

so DS4 is better against hordes? huh.... How about the new knife?

[west stream]

I am a duelling blade stan tbh

with scryers everything dies so who cares

[harsh urchin]

Neither ds4 nor knife is built for hordes, they'll clear a bit slower than a dclaw or illisi

But both ds4 and knife have crazy single target

You can just convert stamina into dps

[near wyvern]

haven't timed it but I would say DS4 is slightly better on horde especially if you pop gaze

[static needle]

@near wyvern Tryna figure out what melee weapon is best for this build

[olive ember]

Every time I play auric I'm reminded why I don't

teammates dying to fucking nothing

[mint pivot]

Its pretty amazing sometimes

[near wyvern]

Deimos, DS4 or Combat Blade Mk 6 will do

[static needle]

Does combat blade mk 6 do anything at all better than DS4?

[near wyvern]

Deimos if you want to dispatch mutants with one H2, DS4 if you can't decide and Mk 6 combat blade if you want to be a speedy fucker

Combat Blade Mk 6 has better defensive capabilities

and mobility

trades off a bit from the offensive capabilities but still prefectly good enough

[olive ember]

apparently the new knife is faster than old knife

so if you want speed

[glossy ember]

so fucking BASED

also im loving my knife and don't feel the loss in stamina

well

i do a lil bit wheni get surrounded

[near wyvern]

it's the same speed

the new knife is a direct upgrade over the old one tho for Psykers

[static needle]

how so for psykers specifically?

[ornate hamlet]

I can't tolerate the mk3 knife on psyker after playing with attack speed bonuses from zealot and vet

[near wyvern]

cause we can spam the push attack as much as we like due to Kinetic Deflection

[static needle]

ah sick

[near wyvern]

and

because we have the shortest stamina delay

so we can spam the push attack faster when all stamina is gone

there is virtually no difference in the spammability for Psykers with stamina vs no stamina

for the push attack

just gotta time the inputs right

[static needle]

Bricked?

[ornate hamlet]

Very nice

Oh wait, it's haymaker 2

Well uhhhh

[static needle]

This is waaaay better right? Are the blessings BiS?

[glossy ember]

congrats

that's a fantastic knife

keep flesh tearer

[static needle]

thanks! 😄

[glossy ember]

riposte you should replace with uncanny strike

[static needle]

true

[glossy ember]

after that hm...

honestly i would switch crit hit chance with maniacs but

idk

@near wyvern thoughts?

[static needle]

is flesh tearer BiS?

[glossy ember]

it's great yes

[olive elbow]

is this a good purgatus to level from white? quell speed feels like its okay to dump stat with since warp res is high

[olive ember]

its apparently a direct upgrade in general

except for the fact that the special into heavy is slower than the old knife

[ornate hamlet]

Flesh tearer is okay, but uncanny is the best blessing to have

[olive ember]

but more horde clear and same heavy killing potential otherwise for every class

[tired tinsel]

Yeah that’s good

[ornate hamlet]

People also seem to like haymaker on the new knife because of the horizontal heavies, which makes me wonder if that instakill % is per enemy hit or per swing

[tired tinsel]

Burn/cloud are both about max which is what you want

[ornate hamlet]

Personally I don't care much about the second blessing for knife as long as it's not lacerate or smackdown

Lacerate is bad and smackdown lasts too little

[olive ember]

yeah thats amazing

[ornate hamlet]

Specially since both mk3 and mk6 have a push attack as strong as the heavy

[olive ember]

ideally 80% cloud radius but

[ornate hamlet]

And psyker can infinitely push attack shit

[olive ember]

i doubt that 1% will make much of a difference lol

[olive elbow]

I also have this one

but im thinking the other one is better