psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

I swear no one reads anything when they get offended by an argument.

Same thing with smite spammers, who defend it to the grave that they are helping.

[terse saffron]

that is literally what you said

[fluid knot]

Whats the new crutch this patch?

[paper loom]

I think ot was a group just being douches pretty disheartening

[woeful patio]

I only kick in Auric Damnation if players can’t pull weight and it’s prior to 1/2 mission

[terse saffron]

what is even the point of spamming smite if you aint killing shit

[mighty fractal]

i got a smite-only enjoyer in a histg last night

[plucky flax]

Surge baby it's fully back.

[fluid knot]

Hell yeah 😄

Love me Surge

[woeful patio]

Wasn’t there kick protection in Vermintide towards the end of the mission?

Might be misremembering

[fading depot]

Might have been me 😂

[mighty fractal]

they died at the very end of the Excise Vault event and got left behind

[paper loom]

Isn't smite so everyone else can kill easily?

[dim parrot]

whut? it is?

[fading depot]

Oh nvm

[glossy ember]

op

[woeful patio]

We’re so back

[mighty fractal]

Honestly I would have gone back for them if I could have

[fading depot]

I am a smite enjoyer though I do use my surge staff plenty

[plucky flax]

Yeah armour part bug is fixed.

[dim parrot]

hell yeah

[mighty fractal]

Yeah see that's fine

especially now

[dim parrot]

anything else important?

[paper loom]

I only use smite of a rager pack or maulers

[terse saffron]

clutching means everyone else is already dead and you're squeezing by the special waves and half the boss to not fail the run

[mighty fractal]

Doing a quick smite to stun a rager squad and then switching to your actual killing weapon is fine

[fading depot]

I have to turn off the scoreboard mod because when I have it on I can't stop spamming smite

[mighty fractal]

This player literally used smite the entire mission

[fading depot]

Seeing my damage go up to 700k+ is too addicting

[mighty fractal]

I actually have no idea what their ranged weapon even was

[woeful patio]

Smiting a chaff horde is for losers but Smiting a chaff horde with big stinky armored units mixed therein is a gamer move

[lethal lagoon]

I once found out half way through a mission a psyker was running flame trauma

[paper loom]

I use smite with scryers fun living on the edge

[lethal lagoon]

Like bro... why smite spam while using flame trauma

[fading depot]

No reason not to do this honestly

[glossy ember]

based

[fading depot]

Why even have a flame trauma with smite

[mighty fractal]

"I only save it for the big enemies : )"

[terse saffron]

he likes the vfx?

[woeful patio]

Exclusively why I use Smite in Auric Damnation

[paper loom]

Is it any use on bosses?

[fading depot]

I smite the chaff too

[mighty fractal]

True Aim crits, if I were to guess

[lethal lagoon]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[fading depot]

They die fast with the soulblaze

[woeful patio]

No

[paper loom]

Yea thought as much

[woeful patio]

10% Damage Vulnerability but you’d do more damage actually hitting the boss

So it’s negated

You lose more than 10% potential damage by simply sitting there smiting it

Bad node

[willow hazel]

doesn't it stack 3 times?

[woeful patio]

Not that I’m aware of

[lethal lagoon]

I think it also doesn't work on right click

so kind of a wasted point

[eager mantle]

I'll smite a poxhorde because sometimes hearing them pop 1 after another is satisfying

[willow hazel]

Not saying it's worth it, but if you have a THammer on your team 30% is a lot for holding left click for 3 seconds

[paper loom]

It's satisfying smiting a choke hold tho

[lethal lagoon]

I like when one poxburster gets around the guy smiting them and gives em a good smack.

[woeful patio]

Smiting a chaff horde is acceptable if you’re preventing a swarm from inhibiting your team fighting a boss or patrol

[terse saffron]

@lethal lagoon #psyker-class message can you address this too? if you dont want to rephrase your points so everyone actually understands them this time it seems like you just chose to fail the run if your teammates aren't "worthy"

[woeful patio]

But PLEASE don’t smite everything that moves

[fading depot]

🙂

[paper loom]

Unless it's a maulee

Mauler

[woeful patio]

In most cases it’s faster to just light spam a horde down as they rush you

[fading depot]

I am Palpatine and my unlimited power will not be contained by anyone

[woeful patio]

But yeah smite is for big smelly armored men

And manics

Hate them

Also PLEASE CHANGE EP SMITE it has no business dealing damage

[lethal lagoon]

Not much I can say, other than show me a video of you actually clutching a 1 man left auric maelstrom with KD actually mattering. But that's just unrealistic to ask for, so I just said nothing.

[paper loom]

Next ul be saying don't pop caps into everything that moves with your revolver

[woeful patio]

Give it peril reduction

[old oyster]

its was on sale this set ?

[woeful patio]

Yes

[fading depot]

When I see a 'mostly melee' auric maelstrom I'm just 😏 cus I know it's about to be the easiest fucking maelstrom of my life

[woeful patio]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

And more importanly, actually winning the mission after the clutch.

[paper loom]

See with revolver the ranged ones are easy i think

[terse saffron]

i do love me some teammate smite enjoyers stunning armies of ragers n maulers for me to poke with mk4

[lethal lagoon]

I mentioned that earlier, any time i actually need KD to clutch, the mission is usually doomed.

[woeful patio]

NGL I’d rather play with a perma-smite than with a knife zealot loner

[fading depot]

Fr

[lethal lagoon]

Like cool, I saved my whole team and they died the same way as before.

If you need KD for a rez, and they are a crappy player, they are probably going to die this time.

Makes more sense to clear a bit, or just ignore them outright, instead of wasting that time.

[fading depot]

Contrary to popular belief but there is SOME skill in knowing how to use smite and maneuver it around. If you have an idiot that doesn't know how to use it then it doesn't help the team

[terse saffron]

I'll probably stop doing that once i get 1k revives penance

[solar sand]

Hasn’t it always been 5? I don’t remember rebinding it and it’s on 5 for me

[woeful patio]

I agree completely as a fellow smite user

But LMB should be removed for the sake of new players

[lethal lagoon]

Were you around for when you could rez people with deflector in ranged fire?

Killing people with that was hilarious

[fading depot]

S2g I never use LMB

[lethal lagoon]

Literally just instant death on rez.

[solar sand]

Lmb smite is a trap before you know its very limited use cases

Which is basically just solo bursters

[woeful patio]

Or single specials

Which is rare

[terse saffron]

i just spammed SAP godmode vet 24/7 back then

[fading depot]

I use surge for that

[woeful patio]

^

[terse saffron]

didnt manage to roll a single deflector

[fading depot]

Smite is for groups of elites / specials over 3

[woeful patio]

I’ve had too many baby Psykers put down smite as they didn’t understand it had a RMB

[solar sand]

Surge is 2 hits, smite is free knock down and instant kill once on back

[woeful patio]

Exclusively used LMB

[fading depot]

Surge will hold 3 things at bay and kill shit

[woeful patio]

Wish Surge had more chain damage

That’s all I ask

That and it FUNCTIONING PROPERLY

[fading depot]

Depends. I use a combat blade instead of a dueling sword for when I need to move fast

[willow hazel]

surge is already too good. No more buffss

[solar sand]

2, hasn’t been 3 a while as the smite node no longer adds the +1

[lethal lagoon]

Deflector was so weirdly rare.

[fading depot]

? I don't think so

I feel like it still will hit two enemies on top of your primary target

[willow hazel]

It hits 2

[terse saffron]

was it 3 or 4 only? i remember there being only one version of it

[lethal lagoon]

No, I think it was four tiers, it just literally never showed up for a lot of people.

I had to roll so many fucking times to get a tier 1 ass deflector

[terse saffron]

im pretty sure they added lower tiers later on

[eager mantle]

Deflector only showed up for me last week

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe, it's been forever.

Beta memories and beyond are blending.

I do remembe when the community thought surge was the only good staff

[fading depot]

The community was dumb

[plucky flax]

KD to block without stamina here.
https://youtu.be/bsyaSPCj1eA?t=289

(Timestamped)

[terse saffron]

so anyway i only came back for psyker to finish 250 missions in march and managed to get (almost) grol voidstrike that im spamming till this day

[lethal lagoon]

Did you win the game though?

[solar sand]

Pysker was near worthless till 30 and leveling felt awful near release, so I totally ignored them till .13

[plucky flax]

Yeah of course.

[solar sand]

Now they are my main

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

[plucky flax]

KD good clutch crutch yeah?

[willow hazel]

How shamefull using a crutch like KD

[fading depot]

Psyker was my first maxed out when the beta released and I hated it

[steel flame]

Man I love the new knife

[fading depot]

I didn't come back until the class overhaul

[terse saffron]

so anyway there is literally no reason to not run KD because its a prerequisite for essential true aim

[lethal lagoon]

I can't tell if you are being sarcastic and actually won the match or not.

[willow hazel]

A lot of psyker builds don't really care about True Aim, but it's still worth grabbing KD

[fading depot]

I'm working on my 250 rn, about 60 left b4 I move on to Vet or Ogryn

[plucky flax]

I won it easily dude.

[tame venture]

How is the new laspistol for psyker? More damage for less clicking?

[woeful patio]

If the choices are KD or True Aim, I’m taking KD

[solar sand]

I put about 30h in the beta, and about 60h into the release game over its first month or so mostly on vet, played maybe 3 matches between then and patch 13, and I’ve since put about 250 hours in and loving it, though with my characters getting built and leveled im burning out

[plucky flax]

I carried their arses with KD and clutched.

[woeful patio]

Yea, more damage less fire rate

Should still have auto fire mod

[terse saffron]

I've saved the worst for last

[tame venture]

Also I'm curious about the combat knife too ngl

[woeful patio]

It’s a knife

[vast yew]

Cleave knife

[tame venture]

https://tenor.com/view/knife-knifekid-noo-funny-escape-gif-12781000

[woeful patio]

It’s heavies are for cleave

[terse saffron]

brutal momentum on knife when

[woeful patio]

Lights for single target

They also buffed knife special

Which is nice

[solar sand]

Is the pysker is the kid with a knife, who’s the mom yelling at them for having it?

[terse saffron]

that would actually be kinda funny

[woeful patio]

Ogryn

[fading depot]

Which one?

[tame venture]

The emperor

[woeful patio]

Beloved

[terse saffron]

psyker when i finished it back in march and spent 1m dockets rolling voidstrikes

[vast yew]

Btw I've been meaning to ask: I noticed you have Wildfire on your Fire Trauma build in videos. Have you noticed it doing anything? Because when I was testing it was... pretty useless

[tame venture]

Only 1m?

[terse saffron]

i didnt care for the staffs and just used crucian roulette mk3 which didnt suck as much dick back then

[woeful patio]

Surge and Trauma are my favorite staves atm

[tame venture]

Purge

[woeful patio]

I’m a hipster and don’t touch voidstrike or assail on principle

[plucky flax]

Yeah one of the core talent.

[terse saffron]

isnt surge staff meta?

not seeing many voidstrikes in pubs

[lost lava]

what do you guys tihnk of my staff

[solar sand]

Surge is far and away the most popular based in my personal experience of playtime lately

[terse saffron]

damage dump stat

[plucky flax]

Atlas been real quiet since KD managed to clutch a game for real.

Xd

[vast yew]

See, I tested it, and it didn't really work. Because it can only spread stacks up to the stacks on the dying target, which means if everything has 3 stacks from a Trauma crit, and you kill one of them, you get 0 spread

[warm jay]

what should my toughness be

[eager mantle]

Void has a slower pace. I like it. I just think surge is easier to run with

[terse saffron]

crutch *

[vast yew]

and it can only spread a max of 4 stacks, which it splits between up to 4 targets, so even when it did work it mostly just put 1 stack on a bunch of things

[warm jay]

is 100 too low?

[lethal lagoon]

I was watching the whole thing.

[plucky flax]

It doesn't work well in meatgrinder. But in a real game with wonky server and latency trust me it works.

[terse saffron]

im playing exclusively voidstrike because of how quickly it deletes specials

[solar sand]

Is this its own version of power, or is this implying power is just damage and stagger? And not cleave and whatever else it was thought to be

[vast yew]

I don't believe you lol

[plucky flax]

[lethal lagoon]

Your KD clutch is your peril going to 9% once, I dunno man. It really didn't feel like KD had anything to do with anything.

[woeful patio]

Toughness is a good stat to invest in but 100 is fine as you have access to plenty ways of regaining it quickly

[vast yew]

Pretty sure that talent is just kinda butts

[terse saffron]

its just universal +power

[lethal lagoon]

Also it's nice to see someone better at the game than me missing voidstrikes on moving targets.

I always feel so dumb doing that

[vast yew]

blame the inconsistency of the Warp making the projectile miss

[plucky flax]

Yeah and surrounded by loads of enemies. Once guard is broken it's instant dead.

[mighty cipher]

Enemies move weirdly in this game.

[woeful patio]

*the game makes enemies move weirdly

[terse saffron]

he didnt have stamina left though

[lethal lagoon]

Full stats? Enemies blocking, meh.

[woeful patio]

I’ve been hit and shot through walls

Sometimes the game just gives you the finger

Very frustrating

[terse saffron]

that 9 after all reductions is easily 60 hp slap after guard break

[woeful patio]

Also silent crushers

[plucky flax]

Anyway voidstrike is my 3rd least played staff don't judge me voidstrike skill I am bad.

[vast yew]

The trapper shot through the wall is peak "Screw you in particular"

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like if you get caught by a trapper, and the net literally doesn't move, it's kind of bullshit.

[woeful patio]

Oh this large iron gate? My net is large-iron-gate proof

[lethal lagoon]

Like if I get pulled across the map, okay, i'm an idiot.

But if I get netted and just stuck to a wall, bleh

[woeful patio]

Somtimes trappers don’t even do the wind up

Just insta-shoot

[vast yew]

Ever get netted through a window? That's some fun times too

[terse saffron]

phaseshift nets straight outta nurgle's ass

[vast yew]

be like "wait where was the trapper" and it's on the ground outside

[eager mantle]

Was running down a hall, using h1 on knife to sprint through. Pox burster is making no sound. Jumps through corner of the wall mid heavy attack

[woeful patio]

I’ve been netted through a solid concrete pillar

[lethal lagoon]

BB through a fence? Not on your life. Net's through solid matter? Any day of the week.

[woeful patio]

TRUE

[vast yew]

Anti-speedrun measures activated

[woeful patio]

BB GANG RISE

[terse saffron]

thats when they get stunned and just resume as normal

supposedly fixed

[vast yew]

supposedly they also reduced their resistance to ranged stagger

which I hope they did because I shot one with a Revolver on my Zealot and she just said "mmm nah" and netted me

[lethal lagoon]

I think trappers can get stuck on a downed target if they loaded when you got downed.

So you get picked up and it's insta net

[terse saffron]

yeah them tanking a crit blaze bolt to the face was kinda dumb

[woeful patio]

Doubt

FatShart couldn’t fix a leaky pipe in good time

[lethal lagoon]

Remember when the game had 100k active players? Fatshark on their vacation letting the game burn down remebers.

[woeful patio]

It’s the 1 year anniversary and the game is still in Open Beta

[terse saffron]

not much they could've done in such little time anyway

[woeful patio]

Can’t tell me otherwise

[vast yew]

They could but due to spaghetti code the pipe is now full of koolaid

[rapid plinth]

Are staves or guns better to use? I almost exclusively use my sword and my magic stuff (the crystals?) and haven’t really touched those weapons at all

[terse saffron]

delaying the game multiple times is not tolerated by chinese overlords

[woeful patio]

Yeah

That’s the one thing I can’t be angry about

The release

I’m sure they knew the game was unfinished

But publishers get final say

Always

[terse saffron]

breaking whatever dumb holiday laws they have in their country might not have been the best idea either

[woeful patio]

😔

Still a shame

[rapid plinth]

^? 😔

[woeful patio]

I’m playing space wizard I’m using staves and force swords

No exceptions

If I wanna use guns I’ll play Vet

Ammo is primitive and BENEATH ME

[solar sand]

So surge is fixed?

[woeful patio]

Yes

For now

Maybe

[vast yew]

Both work but even gun Psyker uses their blitz a fair bit

[terse saffron]

my bet the people who left back then would've left anyway because of "player engagement mechanics" being as trash as they are for 1 year already

[woeful patio]

Give it another 24h and I’m sure it’ll be broken again

[lethal lagoon]

Whoever wrote "maximum gibbing" was having too much fun.

[woeful patio]

Crafting is still in a terrible spot

[dim parrot]

preach it

[rapid plinth]

I mean I use my blitz and sword almost exclusively, is it worth using a gun or staff besides for bosses

[woeful patio]

What little content we have is drip fed

For a 1 year anniversary it’s definitely paltry

But after going through the files and unreleased content, next year should pick up pace

I’m optimistic

Not hopeful, but optimistic

[vast yew]

What difficulty are you on? Assail is pretty busted down low but it gets brought in line higher up

[rapid plinth]

Uh the 3 lines I think

[woeful patio]

Heresy

He is damned

[vast yew]

Heresy is 4

[woeful patio]

Fuck

Sedition?

[vast yew]

Malice is 3

[woeful patio]

Malice?

[rapid plinth]

Yeah rn it like one shots all the normal guys, charged 1 taps mini bosses mostly

[dim parrot]

malice yeah

[vast yew]

in Malice yeah Assail is going to murder everything

[terse saffron]

yeah when you get into aurics you'll need to cycle between gun/staff and melee pretty frequently

[rapid plinth]

Crazy asf watching it, makes me real happy and idk why

[woeful patio]

I remembered yippee!!!

[rapid plinth]

What’s the reasoning? Obviously I’m way lower than that but is it for the damage output?

[vast yew]

heck even in regular non-Auric Damnation you're gonna need some sort of ranged weapon for Elites

[dim parrot]

I wanna play but update says no

[vast yew]

It's because you have 10 darts and there's 20 Ragers and 2 Crushers running at you

[rapid plinth]

Oh my

[vast yew]

And that math says you die

[solar sand]

So does surge on a bulwark, hit unyielding or carapace if you hit the shield? Now that it’s “fixed”

[terse saffron]

theres too much shooters/specials hunkering down/far away for you to realistically get them all with blitz and melee

[rapid plinth]

Oh okay

[vast yew]

anyways, good options for that style of Gun Psyker (commonly known as gunker) are Laspistol, Revolver

Assail is also a good pairing for Purgatus or Surge staves

[rapid plinth]

I absolutely hate the laser pistol

[eager mantle]

Laspistol good.

[vast yew]

Laspistol, IIRC, has the highest boss damage of any Psyker gun

[terse saffron]

its good with scriers

[vast yew]

but that might've changed

cuz we got new stuff

[rapid plinth]

Is that the pistol the class starts with?

[unreal dust]

You haven't embraced it then. Roll one with Dum Dum + Infernus. Learn to abuse the Weapon Special to reach out and shove things 12m away through walls. Etc etc

[vast yew]

The class starts with a Revolver I think?

[dim parrot]

whut we do?

[lethal lagoon]

I recently level an alt psyker as a gunker. Laspistol is not fun without enough talents lmao.

[rapid plinth]

Idk, mine shot lasers

[unreal dust]

It starts with laspistol

[lethal lagoon]

Whole game is just ammo hunting

[vast yew]

new Laspistol and new Revolver

[rapid plinth]

ye

[dim parrot]

wild but like

[unreal dust]

New Laspistol demands an 80% on stability

[rapid plinth]

it’s why I switched to sword and assail, least I don’t have to look for ammo

[analog agate]

Did the class always start with a gun? I remember me having a trauma

[vast yew]

low-level Trauma staff will give you trauma

[unreal dust]

It always started with laspistol

[rapid plinth]

Trauma is the first staff

[terse saffron]

yeah you either snort all the ammo or get emotional support scavenger vet

[rapid plinth]

Then I think the aoe one, then I think void

[eager mantle]

Or be a god gamer with your ultralight gamer mouse with rgb

[terse saffron]

doesnt do enough otherwise

[analog agate]

I must have picked up a trauma then and hated it

[vast yew]

low level Trauma is sufferring

0% Blast Radius Trauma has a smaller total AoE than the epicenter of an 80% Blast Radius Trauma

[lethal lagoon]

None of the low lvl staves are honestly, good. Esp on release.

[unreal dust]

Nah. Even a 73% Stability. Its going to miss a head at 20m even if you're dead on while moving. Has to have high stability to not go wide

[lethal lagoon]

It was a horrible leveling experience.

I basically just BBed, the first time in Beta.

[woeful patio]

At release we ONLY had trauma no?

Then the rest came after?

[lethal lagoon]

No, all 4.

[woeful patio]

Or was that beta

Ag, Beta then

Obscuris 😔

He walked so the others could run

The Beta Blade

[analog agate]

I remember BBing a lot until I got a void and then I was happy

[round coyote]

So what we got access to was the new knife, the new chain sword, and the new revolver and las pistol?

[analog agate]

I was only doing malice

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-obiwan-kenobi-disappointed-uncivilized-blaster-gif-5287018

[woeful patio]

Yes because we don’t get shovels or chain axes

[round coyote]

The new assault chain sword that is

[lethal lagoon]

Void on release seemed amazing. And then when you ran your first t5 you were like "What the fuck is this?"

[terse saffron]

i just spammed sedition-malice in knife squads with purgatus to clear on timelocked objectives

[round coyote]

I’m still just banking on one day us getting a melee weapon that has a little more weight to it

[woeful patio]

So true sibling 💅

[harsh urchin]

deimos

[woeful patio]

2H Force Sword is in the files

Next year is likely when it’ll release

[round coyote]

I really hope so

[lethal lagoon]

Illy is already kind of a 2H force sword, I wonder what role will be filled.

[dim parrot]

hope dies last

[round coyote]

Still one handed, guess I should’ve clarified

[woeful patio]

I love Illisi

[lethal lagoon]

Back when I wasn't ashamed to run malices as a lvl 30

[woeful patio]

My favorite

[dim parrot]

same tbh

illisi the best boy

[terse saffron]

well heresy and damnation didnt offer much in terms of resources so that was just inefficient

[eager mantle]

I want a force glaive or pike. Or a staff with the special action being like a force bayonet

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, just gave us all diamonte padding.

[vast yew]

Nemeis Force Halberd when

[dim parrot]

2 force sickles

[terse saffron]

illisi but with power cycler and slower

[vast yew]

or you know what, how about a Daemonblade.

have a sword that whispers to you

[lethal lagoon]

I was thinking flaming 2hand.

Special lights enemies on fire for a few swings

Make a blazing force sword actually viable or something

[echo turtle]

That's heresy

[vast yew]

only a little

we're in an Inquisitor's warband after all

and they can get them

[terse saffron]

corruption damage when drawn?

[echo turtle]

They are the group that explicitly routes out heresy

[vast yew]

Special attack that gives corruption sounds appropriate

[eager mantle]

Need a mod that shows a transparent risqué slaanesh image when I empower my sword.

[echo turtle]

The inquisition is the least likely to allow that

[lethal lagoon]

1% chance of turning any enemy into a deamonhost(weakened).

[terse saffron]

and then you remember about zealot corruption regen aura

[vast yew]

Ordo Malleus Inquisitors literally have Daemonblades as a wargear option

[dim parrot]

or just gimme mauls lightsaber

[vast yew]

Just like how Ordo Xenos Inquisitors have a bunch of Xeno weapons in their kit

[terse saffron]

takes a bit more rituals to make one than swinging some poop sworde once no?

[vast yew]

that are definitely heretical to use... but they're just so useful...

So they bend the rules

Daemonblades get a pass because technically the Daemon is harmless while trapped in the sword... it just tries to convince you to let it out

[eager mantle]

It is funny how people will go "but that's heresy!" in 40k when it keeps being shown in stories that the rules get broken or overlooked a lot

[vast yew]

And even still it's pretty heretical

but Radical Inquisitors gonna Radical

Point is not out of the question

[echo turtle]

The purpose of the inquisition is to execute anyone who even talks about bending the rules

[vast yew]

Uh huh

[eager mantle]

Radicals go "mhmm, mhmm"

[terse saffron]

that mf better offer a truck load of plasteel for his release otherwise he stays bottled forever

[woeful patio]

Force Spear would be sexellent

[dim parrot]

force whip lmao

[eager mantle]

Bartering with a daemon for plasteel. Look...I get it

[dim parrot]

force lasso even

[eager mantle]

Give me that sword whip from elden ring

[vast yew]

Next you'll tell me there's absolutely no way an Inquisitor would ever have a Daemon as a travelling companion, bound in the body of some poor sap

Especially not an Inquisitor as hardline as, say, Eisenhorn

[eager mantle]

I just finished book 1

[vast yew]

oh wait

[dim parrot]

oof or a force trident

[echo turtle]

Even they probably wouldn't give a crack head unsanctioned psyker a deemonblade

[vast yew]

1: who says we're unsanctioned? 2: it's close enough they could bend it a bit to give them to members of a retinue

I mean they already gave Ogryns full-auto weapons, and these guys don't even have Bonehead implants

and they can count past 4 and speak in full sentences

(Brawler has a bonehead but the other 2 don't)

[echo turtle]

There is as far as I have seen nothing that suggests the psyker in Darktide is sanctioned

Considering you hear voices the entire time, it's pretty unlikely

[mint pivot]

Also the fucking fact that you start as a prisoner that only gets out from it due to the situtation needing it

[vast yew]

I am pretty darn sure the Savant is Sanctioned

[mint pivot]

"that nutjob prisoner? Totally a sanctioned psyker!"

[echo turtle]

Yeah, also that

[vast yew]

considering he talks about being trained

[mint pivot]

By fucking what? The voices in his head?

[untold niche]

surge staff special is an AOE pushback?
timestampped

https://youtu.be/8ybw2403SFs?t=3

[lethal lagoon]

I think they can just pop in with any serious warp usage

[vast yew]

I'm pretty sure the Savant talks about being trained in a college and being watched by Enforcers, etc.

[echo turtle]

Mine just talks about the voices in his head and how he killed his therapist

[mint pivot]

Savant is the one that sounds like discord mod, right?

[terse saffron]

didnt seer(savant?) run with enforcers?

[vast yew]

I might be getting Savant and Seer mixed up

but it's the one that's a fan of the Imperium

[dim parrot]

discord mod?

[vast yew]

not the "my beloved" one

[dim parrot]

lol

[lethal lagoon]

I thought that dialogue was based on your "lore" choices?

[dim parrot]

the only one with a deep voice u mean

[mint pivot]

The one with nasal sound that makes you want to punch him in the balls

[dim parrot]

hm?

[vast yew]

I don't think Loner or the Beloved one has lines that reference those events

though it may be background-locked

[untold niche]

how come purge staff special is an AOE pushback :v

[vast yew]

regardless, at least some of the Psykers in Darktide are sanctioned

which was my point

[mint pivot]

Considering we are working under an inquisitor, rules really do not apply

[vast yew]

There's also no way they give some random rejects a damn Plasma Rifle or Thunder Hammer either, and yet

[mint pivot]

;D

[lethal lagoon]

Wut?

[mint pivot]

Meleeing with staff mid cast = aoe knockback

[terse saffron]

its kinda funny how they're all talking how shit your character is and possibly another traitor

[lethal lagoon]

That was just the special?

[terse saffron]

"anyway you just unlocked unlimited supply of power swords and plasma guns for some lunch money gl"

[untold niche]

my void special doesn't have aoe pushback :p

i want that in void

:v

also sorry for asking, literally no more ordos for me to buy and try

[lethal lagoon]

Is this a meme, I don't understand, no sleep.

[mint pivot]

TBH how long can you talk shit about the random reject that keeps on coming back from absolute suicide missions? How many astra militarum devastating daemonic forces have the rejects fucking bonked in the head so far? 😄

[woeful patio]

It’s suppression

Wait you mean the bonk?

[lethal lagoon]

Brother, he's just using the push ability.

It has nothing to do with the staff.

[woeful patio]

Venting Shriek

He’s baby please don’t bully

[dim parrot]

lmao

baby sibling

[mint pivot]

oh god i forgot that shit even exists 😄

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen him in here before though...

[woeful patio]

🥺

[dim parrot]

wait tho, when does one stop being a baby sibling ?

am I still a baby sibling?

[mint pivot]

Once you post proof of soloing auric mission

[dim parrot]

god damn

[lethal lagoon]

Auric t4, no problem

[vast yew]

Once you save yourself from exploding via an enemy dying to Soulblaze, triggering Battle Meditation

[brave fiber]

Beat an auric damnation with only staff melee

[dim parrot]

once u can safely make a sandwich in the battlefield while fighting a chaos spawn

[lethal lagoon]

No problem, I might as well be a smite spammer. Team will carry.

[vast yew]

Okay I looked it up and Savant is the Imperium aligned one, Seer is the one who talks about the Beloved and dreaming, etc

y'all making me doubt myself

[woeful patio]

If the emperor cared he’d allow staves to be placed into the melee slot and used as weapons

[dim parrot]

letting us use it like a true wizard would

[woeful patio]

Also give us a tome*

Lemme conjure powers of the warp from a book

[vast yew]

Now that is actual heresy

[woeful patio]

Also maybe get rid of the grenade icon on Psyker UI 👉👈

[vast yew]

Was brainstorming which Psyker powers they could turn into Staves; think they could make a Soul Storm staff that behaves similarly to the Coruscation Staff in Vermintide

[woeful patio]

Literally just port all of Siennas staves

1 to 1

No changes mechanically or cosmetically

They’re already covered in gold and skulls

They’ll fit right in

[vast yew]

Well they already did Fireball (Voidstrike), Conflagration (Trauma), and Flamestorm (Purgatus)

[woeful patio]

VOIDSTRIKE IS NOT FIREBALL

[primal plume]

Is surge and smite finally unfucked or is there a new bug

[woeful patio]

THAT IS HARAM

FireBall has an arc

[vast yew]

Voidstrike is Fireball with no gravity or flaming damage

[woeful patio]

Give me my arc back

[vast yew]

No

[woeful patio]

And let it spread fire

[glossy ember]

unfucked

[woeful patio]

For now

[primal plume]

Give it time

[vast yew]

If you want Fireball run Blazing Spirit Voidstrike, it's a good build I swear

Note: (it's not a good build)

[woeful patio]

I use Blazing Spirit Trauma

And I refuse to use Voidstrike or Assail

[vast yew]

oh Blazing Spirit Trauma is a machine

but Voidstrike has Surge, and that's just way better than Blazing on it

[eager mantle]

Fatshark just give us sienna's fireball lobbing staff.

[woeful patio]

Blazing Spirit on melee weapons needs to be buffed

It needs some sort of gimmick

[vast yew]

Blazing Spirit on melee weapons is buffed

[woeful patio]

It’s basically cosmetic

[vast yew]

it goes to 10-12 stacks

staff Blazing Spirit only goes to 6

[woeful patio]

🤓

[eager mantle]

Yea but most things are dead from the crit

[woeful patio]

The dot spread doesn’t kill chaff faster than my light spam

[vast yew]

yeah but that's true for every Blazing Spirit weapon that isn't named Trauma

Blazing Sprit is just kind of a meme blessing that goes god-mode on Trauma

[woeful patio]

Warp fire needs changes

Dunno what

[vast yew]

you talking about Purgatus?

[woeful patio]

No

The debuff itself

[vast yew]

... Soulblaze?

[woeful patio]

That

I was gunna call it soulblaze but I thought I was being edgy

[vast yew]

Soulblaze is fine lol, it deals the same damage (roughly) as the other DoT effects in the game

that is: roughly stacks * stacks damage per second for 11 seconds

[woeful patio]

But it’s stacks don’t function like the normal fire stacks

[vast yew]

I'm pretty sure they do

[woeful patio]

And it isn’t communicated effectively in-game

[dim parrot]

how was that edgy?

[vast yew]

it is a bit chuuni, but 40k is chuuni AF anyways

[woeful patio]

Xx_S0u1Bl4Z3_xX

[vast yew]

anyways Soulblaze is better than burn because it has a 100% modifier vs. Flak instead of 66%

[woeful patio]

Pretty sure blue fire has lower cap but lasts longer

[vast yew]

they're all capped at 31

(you will never get there)

Flamer and Purgatus cap at 15

[woeful patio]

Glad I don’t use either

[vast yew]

so the current highest you can get to is 15 + 6 from Shriek, plus maybe some extra from PC procs

[dim parrot]

petition to make blue fire red pls

or purple even

[woeful patio]

SoulBlaze color should be affected by the eye color

Why make Sienna cosmetics if they don’t even change anything

Wow glowing orange eyes!

But blue fire?

Not my Sienna

[dim parrot]

mine would just stay blue because there was no red eye color

[woeful patio]

There is a glowing orange one

From V2 Sienna cosmetics

“Cosmetics”

[vast yew]

yeah glowing orange eyes + hair

[dim parrot]

whut

[woeful patio]

Hair color, shitty tats, and eyes

Go to the barber

[dim parrot]

do the eyes look good?

[woeful patio]

I mean

The glow is tuned down

[vast yew]

anyways here's the damage curves for DoTs

https://preview.redd.it/jeh4czvmrkwb1.png?width=1890&format=png&auto=webp&s=d9b8f1ba8b9262e4023f92516027b14e09245c90

[woeful patio]

Like ALOT

[dim parrot]

update

[woeful patio]

But yeah they’re okay

[dim parrot]

eh then its boring

[woeful patio]

I agree

Did Sienna dirty

[dim parrot]

I want them glowy eyes og

[woeful patio]

You will

Gotta pay for them tho

Give it another year

[dim parrot]

I would pay for red glowy eyes ngl

[woeful patio]

The only thing that’s consistently updated is the premium store

Gameplay be damned

Also give me warp tattoos

[dim parrot]

or cosmetics were the tattoos are even visible

[untold niche]

Oh I thought that was his staff because he twirled it and they got staggered

:v

[vast yew]

yes

glowy Psyker tattoos

[woeful patio]

All this cool cosmetic shit they could overcharge us on and they add frog green camo #9

[vast yew]

at least the new helmet is kinda cool with the unique voice filter

[woeful patio]

They don’t even need to be tattoos but even visual manifestations of our warp powers

Yeah but the same helmet with different colors doesn’t modulate the voice

The helmets that alter voice aren’t clearly labeled

And I hate that

[vast yew]

Fartshark seal of quality

[woeful patio]

I bought the Gold/Steel one because to me it’s more visually appealing

But no cool Vader voice

Wasted my money

And this shit is INTENTIONALLY SCUMMY

[dim parrot]

thank u for your service sibling

now we know not to make the same mistake u did

[woeful patio]

I’ve seen the unreleased cosmetics in the files, they can make good stuff

They choose not to

[vast yew]

I just wait to buy any cosmetics until it's at least a week old so I can look stuff like that up

[woeful patio]

Rats

[vast yew]

except for cool Vader voice, because cool Vader voice

that one I made an exception for

but I will agree it is very scummy

[dim parrot]

man now im interested in this cool vader voice

[vast yew]

especially when they brought back a Zealot bundle that used to include weapon skins and the skins are just... gone

[woeful patio]

Man if only it wasn’t so difficult to add a cosmetic line in the description of headpieces that states wether or not it alters the voice of the wearer

Also the store wasn’t FOMO on release

They added the rotations later

Not a fan at all

Wanna buy the Krieg stuff? Too bad. Arbitrarily removed

[dim parrot]

yeah imagine no rotations

[woeful patio]

I’d be much happier if the store didn’t rotate

[dim parrot]

understandable

[woeful patio]

I’d also be much happier if they would label cosmetics that are recolors and which are unique

[vast yew]

lemee see if I can find the video with the voice example

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/it-is-what-it-is-it-is-eet-eet-iz-iz-gif-17896182

[woeful patio]

“Wow I like this hat! But it isn’t in my ideal color. Lemme see if it’s a recolor so I know if I should wait and see if it’s possible to rerelease in red later”

[vast yew]

here is sample: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oJd1IshBcY

[dim parrot]

literally me because red best color

[woeful patio]

Better yet just fucking allow us to recolor armor as is possible with mods

The ability to change armor colors are there, I can fucking SEE IT

Same with weapon customization

Make it vanilla so you can monetize it

[vast yew]

the weapon customization mod goes a bit far IMO, but I would love a built-in version that's more sane

[dim parrot]

oof, idk about the looks chief

but the voice is for sure cool

[woeful patio]

There’s 2 versions of the mod

One that’s basic and the other that’s OUT THERE

All my staves look like staves

Exclusively using staff parts

But other people….

[vast yew]

the looks are a bit weird but fortunately that's the bit you see the least while playing since it's first person

glowy eyes + cool voice was enough for me

[woeful patio]

Man all I want is the Montar Force Sword skin without the baby diarrhea green camo

Ruined the skin

[dim parrot]

true that

[woeful patio]

Also 1 year after release and the only earnable weapon cosmetics outside charms are red/blue camo

Cringe

[vast yew]

Imperial Edition still being the best weapon skins after a year is pretty

[woeful patio]

I agree

But they use the basic models

Which I don’t like

Man if ONLY we could apply camo, and weapon models separately

[vast yew]

the red/black force sword in the shop is pretty alright, same with the knife from last rotatoin

[woeful patio]

MAN

Mobian Parade is my favorite

100%

I love red

[vast yew]

though due to the shape of the force sword it feels a bit weird on Illisi

so I've limited it to Deimos only

[woeful patio]

Dude there’s this giant fucking force blade in the files with the inquisitorial rosette on it

It’s beautiful

And I absolutely know it’ll be ruined with awful camo

I can taste it

[hearty oak]

Once you use the sword so much, no matter what level of customization you put on it, it still feels the same

[bleak tulip]

dont lick the force sword

[hearty oak]

But how else will I know what the warp tastes like?

[woeful patio]

Moebian Parade definitely looks weird on Illisi

I agree

[dim parrot]

eat your corpes starch with it

[hearty oak]

How am I going to eat with it when they don't let me drink it like a shot glass?! You expect me to just stick my head out the window during warp and stick my tongue out?

[dim parrot]

no no grab sword eat your food with it

[hearty oak]

Ahh ok

[near wyvern]

first roll from brunt, first try at hadron, I have been blessed

the damage roll is not optimal

but damn that will do

[fading depot]

hell nah there's some really good autogun skins

[vast yew]

wtf is a gun

[fading depot]

There's one with a bunch of litanies on it that looks really good, idk which one cus my friend has it not me

[fading depot]

its this thing blunts use to pretend they have projectile powers

[vast yew]

Oh those things

Yeah never actually paid much mind to the gun skins, on account of… well mostly of just not playing the game much between release and patch 13

But some of them do seem neat

[dim parrot]

how uncivilized

[quasi junco]

But the cranberry sauce tastes like……

[harsh urchin]

Do you have haymaker4

I wanna try that out with new knife

Shame i didnt buy it two weeks ago in melk

You can chain the heavy swings with h1 h2 l3

[near wyvern]

I should

can be interesting with the heavies yeah

[harsh urchin]

haymaker club1 on ogy is fun as fuck

so kinda excited that new knife enables that

[near wyvern]

I bet it's better on zealot

the haymaker

[harsh urchin]

Probably heh

[patent hatch]

has surge staff been bugged and hows new weps for gun psyker?

Haven't had time to test myself what's peoples initital opionis

[grim granite]

Am I missing something or is revolver better than BB? Pretty underwhelming damage for BB, but you can easily take cover obviously

Assail for the trash and revolver seems to do arguably better

[glacial socket]

man I was kind of hoping for some kind of new stave w/ the update

at least theres a buff/change to Palp staff

[ornate hamlet]

same

[grim granite]

Trauma imo is the biggest skill to reward yield, but it takes a lot of hours

I'm not sure what's left staff wise - ice?

[analog agate]

I want. My beam staff

[ornate hamlet]

At least they could fix the assail. It just feels useless in maelstrom levels

[glacial socket]

I mean the core 5 diciplies for Imperial Psykers are Biomancy, Telekinisis, Pyromancy, Divination, and telepathy

[mossy canopy]

So did they indirectly nerf Surge again this patch? No longer synergizes with the 5 weakspot to guaranteed crit from what I can tell

[fluid knot]

Say what now?

[glacial socket]

there is plenty of room for new staves

[fluid knot]

Assail is cracked as fuck, use it to wipe shooters

Ez claps

[hearty dagger]

Man, that helmet voice morph is great

[patent hatch]

BB is terrible Revolver is stupid lmao

[hearty dagger]

Problem is imho the helmet looks like ass

[patent hatch]

Revolver and Assail tis fun af

[glacial socket]

our characters mostly use biomancy, Pyromancy, and Telekinesis. theres alot of room

[fluid knot]

BB isnt terrible, its just average, good on Purga builds that otherwise lack range

[patent hatch]

Well yeah

apart from purg and traumua u really shouldnt

[glacial socket]

I wished you could run BB reliably w/o empowered Psionics

[patent hatch]

and melee only builds i guess

[glacial socket]

having to BB ogryns 3 times is painful

[patent hatch]

It's the worst out of the options by a long shot :(

[fluid knot]

Nah, you can fit it into most builds should you desire

An i would say Smite is worse personally

[glacial socket]

on higher dificulties you really need talents to enable it to do anything (BB) or its just too slow

[patent hatch]

^

[glacial socket]

I feel like I have to run rectangle sheilds w/ it just so it has decent uptime

and empowered Psionics breaks some thresholds with it on larger mobs

[patent hatch]

tbh you shouldn't be building around your blitz (unless it's assail cause that shit dumb) more of a utility

[glacial socket]

if a squishy mage is standing still/slowed for 3 seconds in a game like darktide there should be more of a reward

[woeful patio]

EP makes it 2

[fluid knot]

Not really too slow, it is slow, but not unusably so

[woeful patio]

EP BB is goat

[glacial socket]

its the only way to use it on higher difficulties

[fluid knot]

Nah, i use it on Maelstroms without EP because WS is more valuable for DoTs

[glacial socket]

compared the other blitz's it feels bad

Assail you can just dump or deal with ranged enemy groups reliably

smite makes the crusher hordes very managable

[sick bolt]

Super fun indeed!
Though I've been having trouble with sustained DPS in demanation, due to the slow reload speed combined with the tiny cylinder size of only 5, I currently have an okay rolled Revolver with 76% reloading speed and most other stats except the dump stat being 70%+.

Soooo been actually having more success with Voidstrike staff and BB with Empowered Psyonics and Venting Shriek. Sure BB with Empowered Psyonics and Venting Shriek is not as fast as the revolver but it's much faster than reloading the revolver so I felt like it was easier to maintain sustained DPS. And while Voidstrike doesn't clear horde as well as Assail, at least it can shoot through lots and lots of Pox Walkers so it was still viable in Damnation 🤔🤔🤔

[glacial socket]

BB feels a bit to specialized compared to other options in my opinion

[sick bolt]

Yes yes BB with EP is actually not bad at all! :D

[patent hatch]

If were talking pure metal, fire traumua staff for me :o

but the "cow boy" build is a really fun one

meta*

[glacial socket]

the thousand son player in me prevents me from using guns

[patent hatch]

for me with the build Assail is the primary, revolver is there fore armour damage and quick burst

[woeful patio]

I run it Auric Damnation and it’s a beast

[hexed geyser]

If i want to use a revolver i go on zealot with a knife. If i'm playing psyker i want to be able to destroy everything in my path with demon magic.

[sick bolt]

I think it's kinda limited by different things when you try to use it for things it was not supposed to be specialized for. Like if you use your revolver for horde clearing for example you will waste a lot of ammo that you could have otherwise saved for elites and such, while if you use BB for horde clearing you're capped by a hard speed cap.
So that's the thing, for the limit of ammo economy at least there are things you can try to do to get around the limit, like better ammo strategies and such, while with BB you do have the option of EP and such but it probably doesn't feel like as much of an intuitive option.

[patent hatch]

Gun psyker OP

[glacial socket]

but aestetics

[hexed geyser]

I know its good but its kind of the worst lore accurate thing of the game. A psyker shouldnt not have a staff.

[sick bolt]

Awesome! Haven't played Auric much myself yet but my survival rate in regular Damnation with EP BB has been consistently higher than any of my many different Vat builds I've tried so far XD

[clear heath]

so does surge actually work normally now?

[patent hatch]

Just pretend your a veteran with severe brain damage who occasinly get's possessed by a daemon

[sick bolt]

Oooooo riiiight isn't the staff more a thing that's typically used by like an Astartes Liberian? 🤔🤔🤔

Edit: wait or did you mean a lore accurate Psyker should always be using a staff?

[plucky flax]

[glacial socket]

Even astropaths use staves

[hexed geyser]

Maybe i would have to verify that. I'm not sure if you are ironic or not.

[glacial socket]

Psykers do not need a stave to channel the warp, it simply makes it easier and “refines” it’s energies

[hexed geyser]

But isnt a way to channel power for every psyker in general?

[glacial socket]

Yes it makes it a lot easier

[sick bolt]

Nooo it's just there was a particular well known stuff was used by an Astartes Liberian lol

[patent hatch]

Which ones the new revovler lmao?

[rugged compass]

I'm too stupid to know what the new weapons are

[sick bolt]

Hmmm they do need the Psychic Converter that's imbedded into a physical object to be able to amplify the warp power to max possible level for combat, no? I mean they definitely don't require one to channel Warp energy but it easily helps them to fight better?

But yeah even then, it would make more sense if the said object is a more useful weapon in itself, like a spear or a pole arm, instead of just a simple long stick lol

[hexed geyser]

You wouldnt want it to break from combat...

[sick bolt]

Is the new revolver available to Psyker? I thought it's only available to Vat? Or is it available to all 3 human classes?

[patent hatch]

all 3 human

[knotty brook]

Anyone know if blitz kills count as "ranged"?

[fluid knot]

All 3 ye

[patent hatch]

ye

[knotty brook]

yay!

[hexed geyser]

There's a new revolver? Since when??

[spice veldt]

since today

[quick python]

since today

[spice veldt]

fastest hand in the west

[quick python]

curse my 65 wpm palsey hands

[hexed geyser]

Rip valorant and my friends i'm trying that tonight

[sick bolt]

Well as long as it's designed to be used in a certain way in combat then it should be fine, right?

Like the Force Sword is a sword with Psychic Converter built into, so yeah if you use it like a sword (so no chopping wood like an axe lol) as someone who's trained in using a sword, then at least it won't easily break from being used as a sword in combat lol

[sick bolt]

Yayyyyy Gun Psyker with Assail is gonna be way more fun now XD

But hmmm I guess a long stick aka a staff could be more easily built more rugged and even less likely to damage, than a sword lol

[coarse bane]

So does the twin always take off or is it only a certain amount of time to beat it?

[glacial socket]

The symbolic meaning helps as well with psykers

[sick bolt]

And Like for less cost, a sword is a fine craft after all LMAO

[glacial socket]

It can help ground psykers in reality

[hexed geyser]

How well would revolver/smite work to clear elites and hordes each?

[sick bolt]

Yes yes definitely! :D
And for it to serve as an object of symbolism, it would totally help greatly for it to be an object which non-Psykers definitely cannot use for doing anything useful at all, so that it's social-culturally marked and differentiated from other common tools of war like a sword, which non-Psykers could also use as an effective weapon XD

[glacial socket]

Exactly! Symbols also ground psykers spiritually

[hexed geyser]

Hear me out : we forget about the symbols and just yeet and explode ourselves every 2 minutes.

[sick bolt]

Hmmm I was thinking about this and with Assail you do have a pretty big range advantage over Smite, which can be helpful in situations where for example you might want to save a teammate who's getting overwhelmed by a horde that's some distance away. On the other hand though Smite has the tactical advantage that it can stun even many elites, and mixed hordes can be a lot more dangerous especially in Damnation.

[hexed geyser]

I'm hesitating between that and assail/fire staff for the same uses.

[sick bolt]

Annnnnd it also works for the other people around them, Psykers are never truly trusted, so it might be considered a good thing that people can always tell if someone is a Psyker based on if that person brings a big and iconically looking staff into the battle XD

[near wyvern]

the new knife is amazing for psykers

like holy shit

[hexed geyser]

New knife too???

[near wyvern]

that stab push attack is so much more reliable for hitting weakspots and the light spam is actually usable cleave

[sick bolt]

New knife???

[near wyvern]

yes

we got new:

[sick bolt]

What's name?

[near wyvern]

it's mk IV

don't remember name

but mk III is the old

[strong gulch]

As soon as I have more than 4k ordos, I'm getting one.

[hexed geyser]

Well my revo knife zealot is getting an update then.

[marsh prism]

I'll have to check that out huh

[plucky flax]

Man hating on my modded darktide.

How can I sleep at night now.

[near wyvern]

we got new:

• combat blade (cleave lights and heavies, stab push attack)
• chainsword (horde lights, single target heavies)
• laspistol (slower fire rate, heavier hits to further ranges as well)
• revolver (loads all bullets at once, can be braced for fast fire, only hipfire)

here is the new knife

so Mk VI

[hushed pike]

This laspistol worth it?

Melk store

[near wyvern]

definitely no

[marsh prism]

I wanna test the new revolver with scryers psyker

[near wyvern]

from melk store only buy shit that have either:

• a high rank blessing you are missing
• base rating 370+ and two of the four with good rolls (perks & blessings)

[near wyvern]

from what I quickly just tested in psych it seems you gotta give it a lot of damage buffs, might go best with warp siphons, scrier's is a bit too unreliable damage buff

[marsh prism]

shame that

[near wyvern]

something like warp siphons + assails + warp rider could work well but haven't tested in a real game so purely theorethical

[marsh prism]

guess I'll stick with my columnus

[near wyvern]

columnus goes brrr

[marsh prism]

that minus assail is p much my current gunpsyker build lol

[near wyvern]

we possibly lost true aim stacking with smites tho, gotta test that tomorrow

[plucky flax]

It's gone.

Surge and smite don't hit weakspot anymore. Always torso.

[near wyvern]

they should have left it in for smite and fix only for surge

was so neat

[marsh prism]

ah maybe I should swap out smite with assail then

[plucky flax]

[marsh prism]

it was useful for keeping stacks up

[plucky flax]

Surge is fixed though it feels good again.

No more shotgunner surviving my full charge.

[kind jay]

ability cd stim is so good with fireshriek

can get like 4-5 casts off in a few seconds

[marsh prism]

anyone find out if the new laspistol is worth building?

[supple skiff]

no staff? BOOOOOOOOO

and true aim doesnt work with smite

back to nerfing psykers fanstatic

[olive ember]

Stop crutching in mods

Real gamers play without mods

AS THE DEVS INTENDED

[plucky flax]

Like old rolling for perk.

Without reroll mod I would had quitted back then.

[supple skiff]

getting proper sights on the hellbore is reason enough to run mods

not cod tho

[plucky flax]

No that's cheating.

Just like hp bars.

[supple skiff]

actually bummed, was hoping for new psyker something. Get nothing, and get my build nerfed

[violet oak]

What got nerfed

[marsh prism]

bb from what I've heard

[supple skiff]

smite doesnt work with true aim

wait they fucked with BB too?

[marsh prism]

oh

oh I may be stupid

[supple skiff]

new revolver doesnt have penetration

[olive ember]

Simply don’t have the mental fortitude I see

SMH

I manually re rolled every weapon

AS THE DEVELOPERS INTENDED

[strong gulch]

According to the patch notes, the chain weapon special animation is now cancelable. Does anyone know if a similar change happened to the force swords (not illisi)?

[kind jay]

fs did not receive that change

[olive ember]

I haven’t used a force sword since dueling sword became a thing

Yeah I figured

[orchid shadow]

Oh man, the Concentration Stim with Shriek is so fun.

[orchid shadow]

Unless it's always been there, I can cancel the special animation with a dodge.

Yeah, it works with both the Deimos and the Obscurus

[long wharf]

Any significant changes for us, siblings?

[orchid shadow]

That makes the Deimos much more useable for me now that I can cancel it. I liked the charged strike.

[orchid shadow]

Looks like it did.

[strong gulch]

Inch res ting. Thanks.

[fading depot]

Surge buff

[strong gulch]

Not buff. Fixed.

[fading depot]

Same thing

[strong gulch]

A buff would be nice.

Not really. It's back to what it was previously.

[fading depot]

Surge does NOT need a buff lmao

It's already great

[strong gulch]

A small one.

Not EP bug levels

[fading depot]

The only buff it needs is a cooler sound effect

It sounds like I'm poking my buddy after shuffling on carpet

[strong gulch]

NO. Every time surge is cosmetically changed, surge gets fecked.

[kind jay]

im not able to, at least not in grinder

[fading depot]

Ye but I'm talking about audio not visual

Should be fine 🙂

[orchid shadow]

I'm in the grinder right now messing around with it. Dodge canceling is working for me. Hmmm

[strong gulch]

"should" 🥲

[kind jay]

[orchid shadow]

I have my dodge and jump bound to two different keys if that makes a difference.

[kind jay]

i have dodge/crouch on space. i can cancel the chainsword but not fs. maybe ill mess with controls later and test it some more

[orchid shadow]

That may be messing it up. I can't cancel with anything else except with dodge.

[quartz barn]

why is the plasteel gain so scuffed man

i have no plasteel vs 10k diamantine :/

i just want the funny burn on trauma

[strong gulch]

Just used the deimos special in the meat grinder. I was able to dodge out of the animation lock; though, the animation itself continued. 👍

[orchid shadow]

Too bad it's a full cancel and you don't get the damage at the end. 😦

[untold widget]

oh no, RIP True Aim Smite

[polar sparrow]

Can someone give a link to mode which show amount of soulblaze stacks on mobs?

[strong gulch]

Felt. It would be busted if it didn't tho.

[polar sparrow]

Like in this video: https://youtu.be/k9sSlvQh-R8?si=AT4Dw_Y232EauQCW&t=49

[strong gulch]

Thin this is it.
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/137

[polar sparrow]

Thank you

[static needle]

Is the new revolver any good?

[untold widget]

Watching the video's of Vet's one clipping Beast of Nurgles with the fan the hammer ability?

[cloud heron]

So is fire just way, way more dangerous now?

like my toughness barely lasts any longer than when it was instantly deleted

and now my health immediately justs mulched too

[north cradle]

Lowered Ragers base health from 1200 to 1000 PRAISE EMPY

Maybe now I can one-shot them with Brain Burst again

[harsh urchin]

it does exponential damage the longer you stand in it

so if you get clipped by it, you no longer lose all your toughness

but if you stand in it you'll still die

[north cradle]

How's the hit stun from fire tho

That's what gets me the worst

[cloud heron]

It's barely different. Like 2 ticks of damage is all it takes for my toughness to get stripped

[north cradle]

Speaking as someone who has been on fire before, I tend to run even faster

[harsh urchin]

well yeah lmao

the goal of the rework wasn't to make it less scary

it's to give it more counterplay via walking out of the fire as well as curio perks

[cloud heron]

it definitely feels like an insane buff to fire

[copper torrent]

Yeah i think we got monkey pawed, it feels way way worse.

[dusty girder]

hey hey, what else should I change on the staff? Do I try to get warp flurry 4, or do I switch crit for something else?

[harsh urchin]

the 5% crit chance isn't that useful because you already have 40% crit or so; and going from flurry3 to flurry4 isn't a huge difference. My suggestion is to change crit to 10% elites so you get more consistent oneshots on gunners, ragers, and so you can kill crushers faster

[quasi junco]

5% crit perk is better on voidstrike imo with surge

[dusty girder]

thank you, I'll do that!

and yeah I'll try to get a nice voidstrike staff at some point, as every build suggest taking it, but a bit short on plasteel right now

[quasi junco]

here is mine that has been good to me

[dusty girder]

what are the pros of the voidstrike over surge?

[quasi junco]

different playstyles entirely

[harsh urchin]

vs is a headshot weapon, so you build it with finesse.

[vapid lichen]

u have to aim with void and u dont have to aim with surge

[dusty girder]

ahah fair enough

[mighty olive]

flak/maniac now good perks for surge now?

[untold widget]

You need more crit than ever now that you can't EZ True Aim with smite

[glossy ember]

ye

flak is most important

[glossy ember]

good point, gonna give elite 10% a shot, see if it helps with the damage roll at the end on ragers and gunners

[mighty olive]

ty guys, much love to my siblings<3

[quasi junco]

I just watched someone die when being rezzed in fire, they went up... they went back down... they went up and they died, couldnt even move due to the damage

wtf did they do with this patch?

[regal hare]

What locks blessings on a weapon, is it just doing both refines?

[slender coyote]

did they add an extra 0 to fire dmg

[quasi junco]

fatshark is only second to blizzard for being terrible at balance

[olive ember]

fire damage is overtuned as shit

basically you stand in it for 2 seconds and you die

[slender coyote]

it's not realistic

[olive ember]

but hey it doesn't instantly break your toughness kekw

[slender coyote]

i think it should just do more damage the longer you are in it

[olive ember]

they just need to tune down the health damage of it and it'll be good

as it is now you literally get caught in a bad position and you die

cuz the fire damage is stupid

[slender coyote]

I think instead of it breaking toughness it should just override it and hurt your health

[dusty girder]

yeah I'm losing thoughness in 3 ticks instead of 2, big win!

[wise sundial]

How does surge psyker feel now that the bugs have FINALLY been fixed?

[grim granite]

Why do people rez in fire? You didn't do this in WoW either. My only complaint about fire is that it should be a different color for the Zealot's grenades, but that's it.

Fire bad. Stay away from the fire. We had WoW tanks yell this at us for like 5 years straight.

[slender coyote]

zealot fire is orange tho

like almost yellow

[strong gulch]

Oof yeah. Fire bad.

[slender coyote]

bad fire is red af

[quasi junco]

Your reply is pure cringe, I used to revive people in fire all the time and they got out just fine. If fire is so bad it shoudl instakill people downed in it

[silent coral]

Hey guys I'm trying to challenge my self to learn how to play with scryers gaze, is it better to use a staff or guns? If gun then which one?

[grim granite]

Yeah still hard to visually identify amongst all that though

[solar sand]

first time logging in, how the new knife?

[grim granite]

And you're not playing high level. Just stop doing it. It's not that hard.

[quasi junco]

I play damn and auric damn all the time, the need to revive people asap is always paramount

[grim granite]

On a Psyker of all classes? C'mon bruh lol

[quasi junco]

Dude stfu and leave me the fuck alone, Ive been playing since beta and have rezzed people in fire just fine, they hop out we kill shit

[grim granite]

No, it isn't.

[quasi junco]

I dont know why you are coming in here shitting all over me, just go the fuck away

[grim granite]

I've never had anyone be this defensive about their terrible habits. You know it's bad. The game is actively discouraging you from doing it.

[quasi junco]

it is now, homer simpson meme

[strong gulch]

Pray for this knife

[grim granite]

You run away and solo if needed. If you can't solo anything at damn or above, you're not ready to play it.

[naive plover]

bombers were a threat
the moment i hear that grenade pin being pulled out, that buried fear deep in my heart resurfaces, i'm already surrounded and a single millisecond delay of getting out of there would result in my death because a single tick can delete my toughness
now you can just delay your skedaddling until the last second, the grenade going off, and still come out relatively unscathed
shit you don't even need stagger immunity, you don't even need to dodge nor dodgeslide to offset the stagger, you can literally just walk away
the previous fire would've immediately removed my toughness the moment the grenade goes off and made me walk out of the aoe like an old woman crossing a street
https://streamable.com/3a9gmj

[strong gulch]

dang

[grim granite]

Yeah bombers are better now for sure. It was awful with Psyker especially. One foot in the fire for a literal second and 0 toughness.

[patent wing]

am i the only one that mostly gets combat axes and guns from the emperor?
there must be some kind of conspiracy going on

[grim granite]

I haven't played the new patch today yet, but is fire still staggering you too?

[patent wing]

doesnt insta kill me anymore

but tbh i put a 20% bomber resistance on a curio x)

[strong gulch]

Not the only one. 🥲

[grim granite]

Yeah I think bomber resist is pretty important for Psyker as a sneaky pox can just destroy you.

[slender coyote]

what is this rancid fluid btw

[patent wing]

i mean i swear out of the last 30 games i got like 20 combat axes and 5 guns

[strong gulch]

yip

[slender coyote]

same

[patent wing]

<@&735928989146939404> pls fix

[grim granite]

I like the axe in theory, but in application the weapon is awful

[strong gulch]

Don't forget the odd curio with chance of curio on it.

[pale sky]

What?

[patent wing]

thers sth off with emperor drop rates

[chilly mantle]

Stand in the fire
damage is higher

[pale sky]

We aren't devs.