psyker-class

[vast yew]

unironically a skill issue

[spice oar]

No new staffs

[vast yew]

don't randomly press dodge if you don't intend to dodge

[quartz barn]

True

[spice oar]

Sad af

[potent echo]

does the camera lock still happen?

[vast yew]

I'd wager we'll get a new Force melee before a stave, just because I recall a 2-hand force sword being datamined but nothing about staves

[severe folio]

the foldable shovel sound really fun ;((

[orchid dirge]

guys do you think its worth?

[severe folio]

why psyker dont have shovel

[severe folio]

stat looks right, perk not sure

[vast yew]

them some good stats

[severe folio]

too early to tell

[quartz barn]

Didnt we get one in the intro mission

[severe folio]

yeah

[quartz barn]

Fs pls

[orchid dirge]

i'd rather have a decent bb than a shovel

[severe folio]

maybe the stim will help

[plucky flax]

Brunt doesn't sell new marks yet?

[glossy ember]

nope

[plucky flax]

[severe folio]

mod broken

make sense

guess i cant test the new weapons out with loadout config yet

[summer prairie]

the new laspistol feels so slow

[plucky flax]

Not in the grey gamble shop.

[tardy stump]

whats better for ovarall dmg between trauma and purge?

[severe folio]

mmhm

[tardy stump]

i assume trauma only on scab only?

[severe folio]

trauma can be on everything

same as purg

[vague chasm]

How does the regular one feel now? Used it pretty heavily on the zealot but they supposedly made it slower now

[tardy stump]

and whats the upsides/downsides? more dmg vs stagger eveything?

[summer prairie]

just a green one but zzz first impression https://streamable.com/qycntf

[severe folio]

it has 2 strike down heavy and 1 sweep heavy

[plucky flax]

Too slow.

Dps seems ass.

[summer prairie]

revolver

[midnight cove]

wait is the patch out?

[severe folio]

its def seem more single target damage

[vast yew]

it sure is

[severe folio]

than the other chainsword

[midnight cove]

oh dam need to reboot

[tardy stump]

what? i was asking between purge and trauma

[potent echo]

maybe wait an hour?

[glossy ember]

since new knife is a horde knife I guess you'll want executor blessing on it

seems to hit weakpoints reliably

[summer prairie]

I think they fixed executor resetting on dot procs

[glossy ember]

ooo

neat

[vast yew]

The difference between Purgatus and Blaze Trauma is that the Purgatus stacks Soulblaze stacks higher/faster
Trauma deals more damage, at a longer range, with larger AoE, and has traditional staff left-clicks

[glossy ember]

do you still lose stacks if you don't hit a weakpoint

lemme check

[midnight cove]

horde knife 👀

[dreamy storm]

Lowered Ragers base health from 1200 to 1000.
Ragers should now be more easily heard.

[glossy ember]

i don't have an executor

[terse shore]

wait wtf did surge staff do to deserve a nerf like this

[quasi junco]

I thought it got buffed?

[vast yew]

I don't think Nephilim knows guys

[proven stirrup]

It got fixed

[terse shore]

didn't it randomly hit heads before?

[midnight cove]

where the patch notes at

[glossy ember]

yeah that was a bad thing

[heady ruin]

Only fixed the bug of it either doing massive damage or doing no damage at all

[severe folio]

oh new chainsword can 2 shot a crusher with its special if it crit

[proven stirrup]

It randomly hit stuff and you'd not have your perk bonuses

[vast yew]

Yeah, and it also randomly hit limbs

[proven stirrup]

Because the armor types on various parts are not the same

[vast yew]

First bug let Surge staff hit random body parts with that body part's damage multiplier. Was terrible.

[glossy ember]

wait that's not the right gun

[vast yew]

Second bug made it always deal torso damage, but it still grabbed the armor types of random body parts, which was better but still bad for it

They finally fixed the second bug

[glossy ember]

nvm

iti s

[glossy ember]

damn that's half the rate of fire

[terse saffron]

is it using more ammo per shot?

[glossy ember]

i can check

[severe folio]

chainsword commonly 1 shot every target except for crusher right ?

[glossy ember]

3 ammo per shot

[summer prairie]

bombers might be worse than before without bomber res, at least for psyker

[remote gale]

heh, the very first one I buy

now to sacrifice it to Hadron

[terse saffron]

same

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/a3yjrs

[terse shore]

doesn't look that great considering dumdum and ignitus are the better laspistol blessings tbf

the old one destroys it in dps at least

[coarse tartan]

Secondary charged chain lightning attack now always hits the centre mass hit zone (torso) and now only the gibbing is randomised instead. Critical hits will give maximum gibbing.

what does this mean? does that fix the surge staff bug?

[terse saffron]

that damage buff is straight up unreasonable

[echo turtle]

Looks that Way

Holy crap, going to need bomber resist now

[terse saffron]

maybe if they got rid of that shit microstun on explosion and collision on direct hit as if you hit a wall i could see this being "ok"

[summer prairie]

well it had potential

[echo turtle]

It doesn't instantly break toughness though

[proven stirrup]

Doesn't look like that makes a difference

[proven stirrup]

if you still just completely avoid it even in a pinch, the change changed literally nothing

[potent echo]

uh is this intended

looks like you just die

[terse shore]

hits your HP faster than the old one with toughness break lmao

guess i'm swaping out sniper resist

[versed hedge]

Do you like my new revolver?

[potent echo]

0%

[versed hedge]

hhhhhhh~

[terse saffron]

HUH???

why tf did they make a braced revolver

it doesnt even cleave

whats the point

[summer prairie]

the new combat blade push attack has psyker potential

[onyx sentinel]

No force sword marks no staves

Where’s my 2h force sword

[lethal lagoon]

Got rid of true aim smite and surge 😢

At least I won't be so point starved I guess

The sad part is that means DD is basically dead on Surge now

[severe folio]

cant read

[viscid matrix]

DD is fine, just cant get weakpoint kills, so save a point

[lethal lagoon]

Surge was hitting weakspot damage. You also have to waste points on true aim and it's branches.

[gloomy magnet]

update

[potent echo]

i think i'll still run on my surge/assail build

[severe folio]

anyone has vid of new knife

[lethal lagoon]

Knife zealots bout to be in every game

[viscid matrix]

yeh but surge weakspot hits didnt do very much extra damage than a non weakspot
i think it was like 1.1 on a weakspot

[summer prairie]

here's some push attack poking with uncanny https://streamable.com/4arp8e

[lethal lagoon]

Could you do some horde clear with the new heavies 🙏

[glossy ember]

it's the same damage as da other knife right

mk3

[summer prairie]

probably but longer range

[glossy ember]

yeah, feels narrower though

and it feels like the push pushes enemies further

than mk3 knife

[severe folio]

wow

[fresh reef]

Is mk3 dead now? I just rolled a good one

[lethal lagoon]

old mks usually die for a while when new ones are released.

That said, the revolver is apperently a dud 🤷‍♂️

[slim onyx]

it's still good

[severe folio]

the old one got armor nerfed

[lethal lagoon]

I never really like the animation of the push atk on mk3, so I'm excited.

[terse saffron]

new laspistol kinda slaps

[summer prairie]

random heavy swinging https://streamable.com/k2knrg

probably needs buffs to be good

[lethal lagoon]

Oh god what is that animation?

[severe folio]

ngl that knife animation is kinda weird

[lethal lagoon]

Thanks btw

[summer prairie]

you'll want h1,h2, cancel for cleave

[glossy ember]

still strong

[severe folio]

what about light attacks

is it many stabby

[glossy ember]

i think with executor and doing H1H2L1 loop instead it'd be strong

H3 seems like the mk3 h1

[summer prairie]

not entirely sure what's the point of lights https://streamable.com/n54jvo

[terse saffron]

they removed flak from bomber head and now it cant be oneshot by base laspistol

cant make this shit up

[paper forge]

Man he's gonna drop the knife if he doest quit fidgeting

[willow hazel]

Has anyone tested if the Surge staff still does full damage to monstrocities?

[severe folio]

cleaving lights

[gloomy magnet]

handcannon

[severe folio]

this is the new chainsword

[glossy ember]

they cleave more than mk3

[untold niche]

mr purg can u review my gameplay

[severe folio]

cant

about to sleep

[viscid matrix]

throw it up, and it will be reviewed by somone

[upbeat parcel]

yooo new patch

and basically nothing changed for us

(unless ur a gunsyker)

[summer prairie]

executor doesn't drop when you miss, is that new

[severe folio]

does executor demand you to do it in a chain

[glossy ember]

[summer prairie]

don't have to chain

[glossy ember]

yooo

executor new meta

[lethal lagoon]

Seems about the same

[willow hazel]

nice

[summer prairie]

you can technically also switch to another weapon and back and keep it, but the timer is tight

[glossy ember]

slaughterer executor on illisi

[summer prairie]

you can get full stacks pretty much instantly with the heavies on horde since you get multiple procs

[spice oar]

So wtf is the difference between the knives? I thought the original was also light for hordes and heavy for single target?

[potent echo]

anyone know what mod is causing crashes? generally

[lethal lagoon]

Weapon custom is the only one I know of atm

I don't think you can start the game with it on atm

[potent echo]

i managed to make it all the way to character selection

[quartz barn]

Most def weapon customizations

[potent echo]

let me try with it off

[quartz barn]

Always breaks with new weapons

[lethal lagoon]

Someone said they apprently moved weapon sound files, which is causing issues.

[plucky flax]

First craft Xxxd

[glossy ember]

wtf

op

[summer prairie]

not sure if executor is still worth it over bleed+uncanny though

[plucky flax]

I'm gonna use lacerate uncanny.

Bleed is op mane.

[lethal lagoon]

I'm literally out of gold atm 😭

[plucky flax]

And swap elites to flak.

[lethal lagoon]

Maybe it's finally time to clean out my inventory from before auto-sell mods were a thing.

[glossy ember]

i think i'd use executor for bigger cleaves

sounds more useful for hordes

[plucky flax]

[quartz barn]

Crosshair mod is also broken apparently, but cant verify since i dont use it

[plucky flax]

Didn't break for me.

Only weapon customisation crashed my game.

[west galleon]

is there any way to get more data off the meatgrinder or do I need mods for that?

[plucky flax]

Disabled it for now.

[quartz barn]

Mightve been fixed already? Fix eta was a while ago

[summer prairie]

they kind of broke knife special+light combo chaining

it also feels slower

but maybe it's just the comboing

[orchid nest]

oh you can dodge cancel the force sword latch too. I saw the chain sword mention. did I just miss that in the notes?

[potent echo]

there are like 3 types of crosshair mods

[azure bridge]

So if patch notes are to be believed smite no longer head shots correct?

[potent echo]

crosshair hud mod has an update

probably that

[orchid nest]

not seeing any headshots or true aim stacks

I don't remember bubble having this sound effect

[summer prairie]

smite targeting lua used to have this

[azure bridge]

Tyvm

[plucky flax]

New revolver meme

[rugged hare]

So I haven't gotten a chance to play the update yet, is anything broken for psyker?

[glossy ember]

they fixed surge staff

[orchid nest]

how do you like the new knife and that revolver so far?

[plucky flax]

Gonna play a game now.

New knife and revolver. Xd

Hishock new map.

Wish me luck.

[orchid nest]

the new chainsword looks good I guess

gl

[glossy ember]

what the F

[nimble badger]

holy shit

[sudden trellis]

nice high noon clip

[severe folio]

h u h

damn zealots

[quasi junco]

I see like ten millions buffs below, nice try

[severe folio]

those ten million buff only happen after volley fire was triggered

[glossy ember]

i only see marking

[severe folio]

wait thats a vet

[glossy ember]

and ult

[severe folio]

damn

[glossy ember]

next patch gonna nerf vets again

💀

[severe folio]

prob

bro the shovel one shot 😭

it looks so fun

that pull out shovel

[cosmic lagoon]

they nuked farming true aim with smite

it's so joever

[sudden trellis]

did psybros get anything new?

[ornate hamlet]

why is it 2 seconds long

oh

[vast yew]

The new Knife and Revolver have potential

[ornate hamlet]

Wait, what is that stamina regen on the second?

[vast yew]

maybe the Laspistol and Chainsword too

[spice oar]

guys yk our special force push for the las pistol? the heavy version seems to have a much, much bigger range

[ornate hamlet]

Is that some kind of stamina on kill?

[untold niche]

i did
https://youtu.be/09SNk4KU7Mo

[viscid matrix]

try to practice sliding and charging secondary at the same time
it lets you avoid slowing down while charging

also less likely to get interupted while charging

[glossy ember]

fun fact you keep the momentum of the weapon you slide with even if you switch weapons right after you start your slide

[untold niche]

but most of time i don't need to charge and move forward
and that makes it ahrder to aim as well and its not straight line head level

[viscid matrix]

only time you need to aim, is when you loose the secondary, while charging you can look around

[vast yew]

You don't need to aim while charging, only when you fire

[untold niche]

oh so against gunner i can like side slide, cahrge then shoot

[viscid matrix]

practice Edging you peril, the less time you spend quelling, the more time you can yeet orbs down range

[untold niche]

but moving forward wise i rarely find the opportunity/sense to slide and charge

[hearty sinew]

So. How do you all feel about the new patch? u guys got no new staffs or psyker exclusive gear

[glossy ember]

surge staff feels like a new staff

[viscid matrix]

Edging your peril is fun

[untold niche]

wait in the video i don't do it?

i keep it like under 80

all times

like right around 80

[viscid matrix]

you do it well, but a few cases you go over and have to vent to save yourself 😄

[untold niche]

oh ye heh heh

[glossy ember]

hesitating to put unyielding on my surge staff instead of crit rate

[untold niche]

sometime i know i have vent, sometime i genuinely messed up

also is this good.
look carefully, i have highest down and death

[untold niche]

msot recent game

[fresh reef]

You already have like 40% crit rate at max Nexus

[untold niche]

i thought nexus only give u 20%

[glossy ember]

33+20% in my case

[viscid matrix]

also 5% from node above True aim, and maybe 5% from aura

[fresh reef]

Surge has a base crit chance increase

[glossy ember]

38% with crit rate perk

[untold niche]

ohhh

[summer prairie]

Bomber fire kills Psyker in less than 2 seconds if you have 3x health curios

[fresh reef]

I forget that basically everything in DT is multiplicative

[viscid matrix]

Surge has highest crit chance of every staff, and Crit matters a lot too it, since it cant weakspot hit

[untold niche]

one thing i hate about void strike is neck doewsn't count as headshots

[raw idol]

Jump

[glossy ember]

wait crit rate is?

[quartz barn]

Bunnyhop the fire

[fresh reef]

Maybe?

[untold niche]

i hit their upper lip and then no headshot
wrong reply

[glossy ember]

from the stat screen mod it shows 58%

[fresh reef]

Genuinely don't know tbh

[viscid matrix]

best bet, aim to scalp all targets

[summer prairie]

Jumnping does nothing

[untold niche]

oh ya everyone, is the: gold conscrete higher chance to get tier 4
thing real?

[viscid matrix]

yes

always go to gold when looking for rare blessings

[glossy ember]

ok imma do one match with new knoife

[viscid matrix]

its 1500 titanium, but its worth it

[lethal lagoon]

That's exactly why +5% crit chance is mid.

[glossy ember]

yeah diminishing returns

but the thing is

the less you gamble on the crit

the more consistant the perfs

even if technically thatd be lower damage

[lethal lagoon]

But boss damage

And bulwark damage

[glossy ember]

and bulwark/reaper

but well crit also affect those... but yea

[lethal lagoon]

I always forget reapers, honestly, I barely see them recently.

[glossy ember]

I've been seeing a ton of bulwarks surprisingly

[lethal lagoon]

^

Which is why I ran carpace unyielding.

[glossy ember]

carapace i can see it being real important for uh

melee maelstrom

[lethal lagoon]

I just sort of think, "Why did my team die"

And work my way from there

Bulwarks styming the melee dps/toughness gen is one

Crushers overwhelming the group while they "protect' mixed horde is another.

[glossy ember]

yeah

my issue

is i don't see enough crushers to make use of carapace

[lethal lagoon]

Beyond that it's just poorly timed trappers or silent bursters, but what can I do about that?

[glossy ember]

while even if i don't see a bulwark, bosses will still appear anyway so i don't waste unyielding too much

[analog agate]

I think this all time when I switch off my trauma. And then think “we could have all survived if I had my trauma”. And then I go back to my trauma.

[glossy ember]

crit rate works on everything though so that's nice

[summer prairie]

https://streamable.com/9e3ffy

[lethal lagoon]

I'm spaming flaming shriek so much other breakpoints just don't seem to matter as much honestly.

Does fire block all toughness regen, like from talents too?

Soulstealer and stuff

It wasn't clear

[untold niche]

seriously/

[vestal fulcrum]

Hm? What if it? The spread is not ideal, but it’s a force sword

[lethal lagoon]

When you alredy have a near perfect roll, getting a 378 that's kind of mid is sad

[raw idol]

Yeah, but if you already have a near perfect roll, you shouldn't be surprised when most things you see are worse than it...

[untold niche]

btw which one is the dump stat?

[lethal lagoon]

Well sure, but a near perfect 365 being infinitely better than a mid 380 is still sad.

For example

[untold niche]

about 200K spent and no decent one

[ornate hamlet]

Mobility is the dump stat, but some people take warp resist to get warp rider and other peril effects faster

[lethal lagoon]

Warp and Mob.

[untold niche]

ah thanks dood

[lethal lagoon]

Jealous of those mad lads who rolled like 20% warp resist.

But rest of stats 75+

Feels rarer than just a straight 380 with perfect stats

[orchid nest]

I still have to do the last roll on that 7% warp resist deimos

[summer prairie]

if you run +toughness and bomber res on all curios, you still die before you can run through bomber fire

[untold niche]

im jealous of people who have surgical / surge @lethal lagoon

[sweet drift]

Anything to make this staff better?

[lethal lagoon]

You sob, rolling a free perk surge 😡

I would keep the blessings and just play with perks

[untold niche]

finally something decent

[sweet drift]

Badass, thanks for the input. Might've made a mistake otherwise

[orchid nest]

yeah the small difference between 3 and 4 nexus definitely is not worth vs having free reign on perks whenever you want

[lethal lagoon]

Flak + crit chance, Unyielding Carpace, Flak Unarmoared, you can try a lot combos, see what feels best.

[sudden trellis]

so what does the new combat knife do, again?

[lethal lagoon]

Look goofy af

[fresh reef]

And suddenly, for no reason at all, my +20% gunner resist turned into +20% bomber resist

[untold niche]

quyick question, possible to get 2 DHs in one game>

[lethal lagoon]

At once?

You can definitely have quite a number of DH spawns. But I don't think I've seen two active DHs at the same time before.

[analog agate]

Yes you can. And yes at once. Has happened to me

On first released throne room lvl

[late yew]

Oh damn, update already out?

[cosmic lagoon]

Oh man I had a 42 minutes high intensity run today and there were 2 daemonhosts in 2 rooms next to each other

It was fucking scary hearing two abominations activate at once and me stuck in between

[lethal lagoon]

Kind of sad I've never seen that 😦

[mighty olive]

Baaaah was hoping for a surge tweak, guess it remains borked, just doesn't feel as good to play imo >_<

[lethal lagoon]

Surge did get tweaked?

Back to body shots

Same with smite.

[lethal lagoon]

No more true aim fun 😦

[mighty olive]

Omg I didn't see it got tweaked rofl I was skimming too quick, tyyyy, will test laters!

[cosmic lagoon]

Why is it that every single time something happens to surge it also affect smite

[mighty olive]

Spaghetti code lol

[cosmic lagoon]

Give me back my free true aim god dammit

[lethal lagoon]

No true aim means DD on surge isn't as worth it anymore either. Esp if you don't usually take KD.

DD was fun when it was working.

[lethal lagoon]

Other way around.

[analog agate]

Warp siphon surge rise back up

[mighty olive]

What ya mean dd?

[lethal lagoon]

Destiny keystone

[mighty olive]

Ohhh got ya

[cosmic lagoon]

Wait so

It was smite that got its weak spot chaining removed

But surge staff got collateral'd?

[lethal lagoon]

Well the notes mention both this time around

But since smite release, smite changes were hitting surge, probably because of some dumb copy and pasting.

[cosmic lagoon]

Did the surge staff use to hit weak spot before this patch

[lethal lagoon]

Yea

[cosmic lagoon]

Damn

[untold niche]

@viscid matrix i see flamer/gunner
starts to rev, i also start to charge.
they shoot (either at me or my teammate)
not wanting to just focus on stats, i let it rip early so they get staggered.
Teammate get the kill?

i have never ever gotten most elites/specials
My trash cleaner is top notch for some reason though :v

[lethal lagoon]

Surge also does those little tiny hits before the big.

So it worked well with true aim too

[stone totem]

So ever since the smite nerf a bit back, my friend has been sobbing hysterically that smite is worthless now

How do you build to get value out of it?

[lethal lagoon]

Smite's never been nerfed?

[untold niche]

the rmb is psyker's version of CC nades

[lethal lagoon]

There was a bug that let you literally cast smite infinitely lmao

[ionic sorrel]

Use it as cc to save people.

[stone totem]

The change with that funny thing that stacks where you could initially cast it for a long time

Yeah

[untold niche]

so i usually smite when there is mixed horde if i feel we can't handle it

atlas

[lethal lagoon]

From the perspective of auric maels, smite is there to set up a flaming shriek perilous combustion chain on a huge mixed horde that's covering the entire map.

[untold niche]

do you let the gunner shoot abit more to get a insta kill or you rip out early so he get staggered? :v

[lethal lagoon]

Otherwise, if you just spam smite, your team is basically 3-manning.

[glossy ember]

god DAM

new knife fucks

[unborn flicker]

Three Manning is a lot easier if the five crushers are currently incapacitated.

[ionic sorrel]

3 manning against enemies just standing there.

[glossy ember]

oh found an executor sword to test

[unborn flicker]

That dmg

Is lacking

[ornate hamlet]

A bleed machine

[glossy ember]

ok u still lose executor stacks if you hit a non weak point

but you don't lose if you whiff

[lethal lagoon]

Enemies that are now not stacking up, ruining a variety of cleave damage.

[glossy ember]

and multiple weak points in one blow => multiple executor stacks, cool

[lethal lagoon]

Enemies that can randomly become unstunned at a bad time.

Smite spam is never good, it just makes you feel important.

https://tenor.com/view/emperor-star-wars-good-goooooood-evil-gif-12447951

I half want to leave when see a psyker smite spaming a literal horde of just poxwalkers. I'd rather have a bot.

[potent echo]

legendary surge psyker

[fresh reef]

so are the twins basically just a scab captain encounter again?

[glossy ember]

what a man

[glossy ember]

but with poison mines

and probably more gimmicks

[late yew]

reee why psyker have not got anything new

[lethal lagoon]

reee psyker literally just lost stuff

[glossy ember]

we got surge back it's all that matters

[lethal lagoon]

True aim surge was better, fight me.(it wasn't)

[late yew]

I hoped at least for smite left click fix

[terse saffron]

is there any reward for the twins encounter?

[quasi junco]

What’s wrong with it?

[fresh reef]

it's practically useless

[quasi junco]

Intended or bug tho

[late yew]

In description it says that left click should do high damage

[orchid nest]

not anymore, their "fix" for that was they changed the text to not include it anymore awhile back

just reworded it so it doesn't have the line about high impact and damage on the left click

[untold niche]

got this for free, on my psyler ;-;

[eager mantle]

You don't get any for monstrosities or daemonhosts, so why would there be?

[terse saffron]

whats the point then? they already buffed "weakened" shitters to malice levels

[ornate hamlet]

Because they're a new and timed thing

[unborn flicker]

If it’s timed, I have to guess that means that they are moving the plot forward and it wouldn’t make sense to have unlimited access to those enemies

Like trying to implement a campaign in a multiplayer game

[ornate hamlet]

^

Accurate

[terse saffron]

if they're timed to never return until fs comes up with some kind of assassination mission for them that'd be tolerable

[unborn flicker]

I’m sure they’ll add it bac eventually. no one likes making something and then never getting to see it used again.

They’ve just got this planned out so that the people who are really invested in the game right now, will get the biggest payout in terms of story and plot

[coarse tartan]

wait you really dont get anything for killing those bosses?

[unborn flicker]

Which I can kind of understand, unlike destiny, where you are solo the entire time, and you can complete the campaigns whenever, this game is literally reliant on having three other people with you in order to proceed

[plucky flax]

Old revolver better.

[unborn flicker]

Nah

Just bragging rights

[plucky flax]

New one is cool but just meme

[unborn flicker]

I wish they could give you extra plas steel

For defeating big enemies

Like a bounty

Or something

[terse saffron]

yeah like some token amounts

50 for full on monstros and 20 for weakened

[unborn flicker]

Papa needs more rolls for this gatcha game

[mint pivot]

bad idea, unless you like spending 2-3hours in missions when the group decides that they wont proceed further and just want to farm hordes and mini bosses while standing in 1 spot

[fading depot]

No way lol

[terse saffron]

so it makes sense to play maelstroms for resources

instead of low int snoozefests

[eager mantle]

That would be sensible changes but Fatshark is allergic to letting players have currency

[unborn flicker]

No idiot is going to stay around for 2 to 3 hours just to farm monstrosities that may or may not show

[fading depot]

My buddies and I would camp towards the end of a maelstrom and just farm plasteel with thunderhammers for three hours

[fading depot]

Kek

[mint pivot]

you would be surprised... I had a group try to farm xp that way allready...

[fading depot]

Weakened monstrosities will ALWAYS show

Because specialists always show

[unborn flicker]

Then, don’t give it for weakened monstrosity

Problem solved

[mint pivot]

"no mini boss spawn yet, ill just disconnect and try a new lobby lol"

[mighty cipher]

I just skull issue supremed a match. Blew my self up 7 times in one area….

[fading depot]

It is weird that bosses in VT2 gave rewards but not DT

[eager mantle]

Monstrosities should reward something. Missions should have a base crafting material reward.

[unborn flicker]

I mean you are fighting something that is objectively a huge wrench in whatever operation you and your buddies had going

[terse saffron]

there is little reason to engage with this trash system until they do at least one of the following: 1)no locks 2)100 stat cap/red items 3)a LOT of payout on tough maelstroms mentioned above

[eager mantle]

If exp is gained after 30, it should be towards a reward

[unborn flicker]

A formidable opponent, sometimes even an outright demon

[mint pivot]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-souls-logic-dark-souls-git-gud-gif-19856700

[fading depot]

80% is 100%

[unborn flicker]

I know it’s grim dark and all, but they’re not against rewarding and showing appreciation for people who go above and beyond

[terse saffron]

git gud at rng? are you mentally unwell?

[fading depot]

If there is no above 80% then there is no actual difference between 80% and 100%. Not sure why they have it that why

Ez

[mighty cipher]

Technically there is

[terse saffron]

thats kinda trash ngl

[fading depot]

Honestly the crafting system isn't bad if you play a lot, but it's unfriendly to people who don't want to play for hours every day

[unborn flicker]

I wonder if they ever will uncap it, like with power scaling as destiny does it each season

[eager mantle]

You could say that is true if the higher level missions actually gave more rewards than dockets and exp

[mint pivot]

My psykers sword reaches like 100-110% power or something

[fading depot]

Not one of those weapons isn't a straight banger

[silk hawk]

any new meta weapons :)?

[unborn flicker]

No

[mighty cipher]

You ever wondered why the bots hit like a fucking sledgehammer? It’s because their gear is 100% across the board.

[unborn flicker]

We are getting the cold shoulder

[terse saffron]

well i just dont like plasma in general and prefer sunder PC PS

[fading depot]

THAT is interesting, I didn't know that

[fading depot]

That's fair and fine that's a preference

[mighty cipher]

I had a bug one time where bots would appear in the pregame lobby and I was able to inspect their gear. It’s all placeholder names but the stats where still there.

[fading depot]

I went off advice from people in the Vet channel for it because I'm not an experienced Vet, only about level 50

But yeah the crafting system isn't that bad if you have a fat surplus of materials

[terse saffron]

heavy sword on veteran when

[mighty cipher]

Hot take. I like it, just not the costs of everything.

[fading depot]

But if you're not a no-life psychopath like me with 170 hours played in the last two weeks then it's unreasonable to expect you to gave millions of ordos and tens of thousands of plas/dia

[eager mantle]

The crafting system is more of a annoyance that is mostly compounded by the player's ability to interact with it is limited by running around the map trying to find spare change. I can handle rng on top of rng. You can play the game with unoptimized god rolls and do fine. It's that the crafting system is the only thing to earn for outside of the core gameplay of shooting people and fatshark is just stingy with interacting with it by not rewarding players for their actual gameplay

[fading depot]

Honestly I think it's actually a bit more forgiving than VT2

You can disenchant all the bullshit you get at the end of missions and store those blessings for later

[terse saffron]

huh? crafting in VT is pretty much free

[fading depot]

You gotta pay for all the rerolls iirc

[unreal dust]

I'm not sure I like the new Laspistol that much. What have your experiences been with it so far?

[eager mantle]

At work so idk yet

[terse saffron]

and you're pretty much guaranteed highest gear score

[fading depot]

Yeah that's a good point

[terse saffron]

its funny to delete maulers in 2 shots but the other damage modifiers suck ass

[fading depot]

I like that you get can more specifically adjust perks/blessings instead of rerolling until you get the most absolutely perfect combo

[potent echo]

wtf the new map has an event with 20billion gunners

[fading depot]

I've heard it's a pain in the dick

Can't wait to get home and try it

[terse saffron]

kinda good on executioner stance vet, only played 1 game and it felt better than old variant

[potent echo]

keep moving and dont fight them

new maps are so fun

so much movement

[terse saffron]

i clocked under 200 hours and can craft multiple sets of weapons for each class and still have resource leftovers

thats before trinkets being universal

why do we still have separate inventories again?

i would love to actually get to use that lasgun shower melk is throwing at my psyker

[snow coral]

alright, time to play the 'what mod is causing the crash after patch' game

any known issues with anyone?

[terse saffron]

only weapon customization so far

[snow coral]

hrm, I have none of those

[terse saffron]

unless its already updated

[terse saffron]

sorted mission grid moved the normal/auric switch to the top left corner

thats pretty much it

[summer prairie]

crosshair_hud probably

[snow coral]

no.... I finally found that one and got it set right to show my warp charges

you think that'd break in game though, I'm crashing before I even get into the morning star

[terse saffron]

is it crashing rn or you're just asking?

[summer prairie]

but there's a patch for it

[snow coral]

Right now, three in a row so it's gotta be a mod

I can character select but then it crashes before I load in to the star

[terse saffron]

they added new stim slot so anything ui related is probably causing this

[snow coral]

oh yeah, that could be it

Yup, crosshair_hud was the issue

Any consensus on the new revolver?

with the nerfs to the first one I'm wondering if the new one is the way to go since you can still potentially fan elites

[terse saffron]

apparently it deletes monstrosities in executioner stance

[brave fiber]

well only handcannon got nerfed I’m pretty sure, which sucks but absolutely warranted

[terse saffron]

not sure if its great with scriers because i didnt get lucky yet

[snow coral]

no they nerfed handcannon and brought the revolver damage against carapace down

[brave fiber]

ah

[lethal lagoon]

You need to grab all the vet ability buffs with the stance, so I doubt it's as OP on psyker

[snow coral]

well I'm dropping right into the new map on damnation alone, lol, let's see how this goes

hopefully i get some people to join in

i just wanna check out the new map

[terse saffron]

yeah scriers will only cover for deadshot sadly

rip

[snow coral]

I just don't want to have to roll for a new gun, I had a pretty nice setup on my current one

[brave fiber]

ok I see the revolver nerfs, I still think regardless it’ll be a powerhouse, it just won’t 2 tap crushers and maulers anymore

[terse saffron]

i think it can still 2 tap with scriers and warp charges

im yet to actually test this but just warp charges get pretty close

[brave fiber]

well I run revolver with zealot so I wouldn’t know about how it runs with gunker

[woeful patio]

No new staves

[brave fiber]

I’m more distressed about the lack of purgatus buffs

[woeful patio]

Space Wizard Gang is drying up

Post staff pics if you’re a true space wizard

Also yes Purgatus staff kinda lame outside MeatGrinder

[quasi junco]

Purg staff is fine

[eager mantle]

I'll post laspistol rolls when I get home

[quasi junco]

It’s great for mixed hordes

[lethal lagoon]

Hammerstaff

[eager mantle]

There needs to be a new staff with a cool melee special action

[brave fiber]

There needs to be a new staff

[lethal lagoon]

Change the special to a staff slam that's basically an omni push.

[rain meadow]

hello players who got basically nothing this update

how we doin?

i mean i suposse a couple of you wont use staffs + force swords

[rain meadow]

you shall not pass type thing?

[eager mantle]

Gib psykers force shovels

[rain meadow]

no

thats stupid

lore wise

[quasi junco]

Anyone play damnation HISTG ? Are bombers wiping people?

[oak hamlet]

Anyone can help me with Malleus Monstronum penance?

[untold niche]

i haven't seen a +3 stamina curio

[thorn cedar]

Give Psykers SHOTGUN

[woeful patio]

Gimme Staff Melee weapon

[terse saffron]

reliable crit slugs could be funny

[vital gazelle]

It’s been, I don’t know how many weeks since the class overhaul. Still got people ignoring targets stunned by smite.

[woeful patio]

Also finally got my first 17% toughness Curio a year after release

[brave fiber]

Maybe I should run 2 health 1 stamina instead of 3 health

I constantly run out of stamina with psyker

[terse saffron]

thats just preference

[eager mantle]

What do you need stam for when KD exists?

[mighty cipher]

Make the fully charged*(because yes you can charge the stuff melee)* proc kinetic flayer 100% of the time if it’s off cooldown.

[terse saffron]

i do run 2 health 1 stamina and it just feels better

[harsh urchin]

Stop over relying on smite then lol

[eager mantle]

Though I do miss more than 3 bars with my DSs and FSs

[brave fiber]

Being able to run for longer, and being able to not waste points on kd

[eager mantle]

Never a waste on KD

[glossy ember]

it's time to give up on smite

embrace assail

[brave fiber]

waste ig is the wrong word, I just feel like it’s hard to fit in some of my builds

[terse saffron]

its so ass might as well have its own copy of kinetic flayer

[mighty cipher]

That’s a phenomenal idea

[vast yew]

full charge staff bonk knocks crushers out of overheads

it's funny

[mighty cipher]

Does it actually?

Lmao

[brave fiber]

counterpoint: I panic dodge backwards and get smacked anyways

[mighty cipher]

Also they fixed the kinetic resonance bug

You can pre-charge now

[brave fiber]

I feel like I should’ve learned by now

[vast yew]

yeah there was a guy who posted a clip here uhhhh a few days ago

[terse saffron]

you can nuh-uh up to 3 crushers out of overheads with duelling sword headshot pokes

[west nacelle]

does brain rupture count as brain burst for the penances?

[kind jay]

ok so it says surge fixed (again) is it actually this time?

[glossy ember]

yes

[brave fiber]

istg I once had a moment where I was trapped in a room with a crusher horde, spammed dodge and poked the shit out of all 5 and didn’t get hit

[kind jay]

yeah babyyyy

[vast yew]

you can also stagger Mutants out of their charge if you land a headshot

[woeful patio]

Deflector Staff

[terse saffron]

thats useless since you oneshot them with a single heavy

[brave fiber]

The situation was as comfortable as a knife fight in a phone booth

[vast yew]

Not without buffs (Warp Charges/Warp Rider) you can't

[terse saffron]

just warp charges are enough

or a crit

[vast yew]

Well yeah, a lot of weapons will one-shot a mutant on a crit headshot heavy

[terse saffron]

OR

[vast yew]

But the point is if you don't have Warp Charges (or aren't running them) you can still just boop them to stop them dead

and then poke them at your leisure

[glossy ember]

"Lowered Ragers base health from 1200 to 1000"

oh nice

[brave fiber]

I want to take warp charges on my purgatus build but it feels like a waste (+ ep bb is nice)

[terse saffron]

well yeah its not as reliable without warp charges

you'll need full warp rider +ogryn heavy aura

[vast yew]

Warp Siphon and EP BB are both good; Warp Siphon is better but it costs 2 extra points soooo

Lots of ways to take that build

[brave fiber]

Does the increase in base damage from warp siphon affect bb?

[terse saffron]

i also just heavy into dodge into 180 light attack finish if i got scammed out of warp charges

[vast yew]

I think so? It's more the crazy 45% cooldown reduction, 24% damage to everything, and the fact that you get the stacks back in like 3 seconds because Soulblaze

[vast yew]

OR you could just stand there like a boss and boop them

[terse saffron]

works with pretty much any mk4 this way

not if theres multiple mutants

[vast yew]

Think Mark, what's the point of being a Psyker if you aren't needlessly Flamboyant

if mean that's different

if the director is shoving 6 mutants down your gullet then F aiming, just dodge and heavy and pray

[terse saffron]

if its a wave they get reduced hp

you will oneshot heavy them no matter what

[brave fiber]

Like the main reason I take ep on my purgatus build is that it gives me a safe option against crushers and maulers with bb, but if I take warp siphon I can do funny things with dueling 4

[vast yew]

also that

[terse saffron]

shouldn't be spawning 6 of them outside of waves

[vast yew]

shouldn't

but was a bit hyperbolic; more realistically I've seen like 2-3 at once alongside a bunch of other nonsense

[vast yew]

Crushers and Maulers is why I run Deimos with my Purg

DS4 should also work though

what I really like EP BB for is chain-killing Gunners rapidly

[brave fiber]

ds4 fucks on crushers and maulers with rending

[terse saffron]

mk4 is straight up a better option until they move h2 to h1

[vast yew]

bit of a spicy opinion but aight

unless you meant solely for killing Crushers/Maulers

[terse saffron]

imagine that sweet no setup hypothetical h1 tho

[vast yew]

you can get there after a push-attack so it's not too bad

push-attack the Mauler to the floor, headshot his buddy

repeat

[terse saffron]

its not bad at all

[brave fiber]

ds4 is better for dps against carapace, and can one-two shot a bunch of enemies, Deimos has better one shot potential for higher hp enemies but needs more setup

[terse saffron]

but it could've been godlike instead

[hearty dagger]

Fellas, what are y'all favorite psyker helmets?

[vast yew]

I mean if they made it any better at single-target they'd have to take something else away from it

like the fact that it has better dodges than the DS4 for... some reason

[terse saffron]

free penance psi shroud

[vast yew]

the new helmet has glowy eyes and makes you sound like a Sith Lord

[mighty cipher]

God the Karnak twins are fast

[terse saffron]

because they used to be infinite iirc

they couldn't just BUTCHER it like that in 1 patch

[pine shore]

https://i.imgur.com/3ScjK5I.png

Which perk should I choose?

[hearty dagger]

Wdym makes you sound like a sith lord? I thought all voice filters were the same.

[pale pilot]

so surge staff builds gotta change now that it can't hit heads anymore?

[brave fiber]

The Psyker helmet you get for doing all the penances is super sick, I think it’s called witchshroud or something

[hearty dagger]

Yeah, witchshroud.

[eager mantle]

I don't bring deimos anymore because I don't like dancing around crusher/mauler parties with it.

[hearty dagger]

I like it, though i wish it had a voice overlay

[terse saffron]

that new premium helmet has unique voice morph

[hearty dagger]

Anyone got any clips of it?

[white cedar]

Smite not hit weak spot anymore. RIP Double Voidstrike build ._.

[vast yew]

They did but the Illisi doesn't get the same dodge range

[brave fiber]

wha

[vast yew]

Just aim at the head with voidstrike like the rest of us

lmao

[terse saffron]

smite(blitz) used to charge up true aim

[vast yew]

it did

[pale pilot]

new patch, both surge and smite now only hit torso, but will cosmetically blow up random parts on kill

[woeful patio]

We’re so back

[brave fiber]

Thank god they fixed it

[vast yew]

but there wasn't really a point to doing that very often, because you could just... hit the enemy's heads instead with the voidstrike staff

[woeful patio]

About fucking time

[brave fiber]

Surge my beloved

[woeful patio]

Only took too long

[vast yew]

why go through the trouble of switching to smite, using the charged attack, switching back, charging up, firing

when you could just fire the voidstrike thrice instead

[vast yew]

was a net DPS loss

[silk hawk]

so seems like surge staff is back to normal and no more smite-true aim synergy...

[terse saffron]

screw surge WFTP voidstrike gang rise up

[white cedar]

It got 5 stacks faster and CC the whole horde

[pine shore]

guys, what do I choose

[brave fiber]

holy shit BIG SHOVEL

[hearty dagger]

Holy shit it's comically large shovel

[pine shore]

I would leave flak + idk what

[woeful patio]

Shovel Staff

[woeful patio]

Maniac

[hearty dagger]

"I CAST DIG"

[woeful patio]

Fucks maniacs

Hate them

[hearty dagger]

"DIGGY DIGGY HOLE"

[vast yew]

you get 5 stacks instantly if you cast Voidstrike into a horde; it pens more than 5 dudes

[brave fiber]

Get rid of elite dmg

[lethal lagoon]

If your voidstike isn't a shovel, why are you even playing this game

Also yeah, that's the best psyker hat

[vast yew]

And then you just... keep casting into the horde and keep getting True Aim back

[quasi junco]

This. I main Critstrike and rarely use my smite

[pine shore]

And I also need to choose, which keystone and blitz for this build

[vast yew]

I mean Warp Siphon is generally best unless you need the 2 extra points for something

[hearty dagger]

Warp Siphon is always a good pick, if a bit point-heavy.

[pine shore]

Warp Siphon + assail?

[vast yew]

For Trauma I usually go BB, though you don't have a Blaze build so Assail might fit better

[eager mantle]

Do it fatshark. I need a shovel skin for my staves

[hearty dagger]

Trauma's already a good all-rounder so maybe BB for safe gunner clear?

[lethal lagoon]

You can always just put 3 points into warp siphon. You might not always be getting 6 stacks anyways.

or 4 points

[vast yew]

But the 4% aura 😦

[pine shore]

yea, I was looking for specifically rending trauma

I have more than enough points

[woeful patio]

BB + EP = Da Bestest

[terse saffron]

the blitz is personal preference at this point. i'd run BB instead of assail though since trauma already covers horde

[lethal lagoon]

There's enough elites to go around on maels

[pine shore]

I can even get warp rider and kinetic

[vast yew]

Yeah but psychologically

(3 point WS is fine)

[eager mantle]

I mean 4 vs 6 stacks, what is that? 8% dmg, 12% peril and 15% cd? I can live w/o

[lethal lagoon]

The issue with 4 point in WS, is that you might as well do 5.

[willow hazel]

The 6th point seems the most optional. But the 5th point making Warp Charges pulls a lot of weight

[lethal lagoon]

6th point?

[willow hazel]

numbers are off

[brave fiber]

This setup has worked wonders for me with surge/nexus voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

I like the shape of that build

Makes me wanna run it even though I'm not a bubble boi

everytime I see it

super popular

[terse saffron]

no psykinetic aura?

[willow hazel]

shame you can't fit True Aim in

[glossy ember]

based

[brave fiber]

I never felt like I needed it

[eager mantle]

You really miss bubble when it's a good time to have it

[brave fiber]

yeahhh

[glossy ember]

can't take it if you go assail

[lethal lagoon]

You don't need CD on assail, and you can grab 2 points from warp siphon.

[terse saffron]

wtf no aura and no true aim

[quasi junco]

lol you don’t need assail or PC with Critstrike

[glossy ember]

i think he could if he drops PC, final bubble point and one assail node

[terse saffron]

why do you even need assail

[brave fiber]

cool, I take it anyways

[willow hazel]

What I was trying to say before was 4th tier in WS is really strong, hard to drop the warp charge generator

[glossy ember]

like that

[lethal lagoon]

No PC or bubble Toughness gen, bleh.

Why run bubble.

[glossy ember]

who needs pc anyway

or toughness gen

bubble is strong af by itself

[terse saffron]

if you drop both assail nodes and warp fire you can get true aim and deflector that carry matches on their own like a fucking camel

[brave fiber]

I could, but I like to use assail sometimes because it’s fun

[quasi junco]

This 100%

[willow hazel]

Why is Assail/Voidstrike so popular? They seem to do a lot of the same thing

[woeful patio]

KD is 100% mandatory anybody that says otherwise is lying

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like when I actually **need **to use KD, there's a good chance it's a wipe. So it never felt super useful to me.

[quasi junco]

Voidstrike smokes assail, just use LMB and have good aim

[glossy ember]

nah you can do fine without

[lethal lagoon]

Like, wow, great, I can rez someone who overextended themselves and died in a bad spot. So coo.

[willow hazel]

KD just makes bosses so much easier, and being able to revive in a horde is great

[terse saffron]

fair, but you'll be getting a lot more easier maelstroms with this build

[quasi junco]

Assail was literally invented for console players

[lethal lagoon]

Spawn the bosses in creature spawner and go Souls-like on em till you get it down 🤷‍♂️

[glossy ember]

we are cooking boys

[quasi junco]

With KD you can tank overheads on crushers. Well 1 lol

[glossy ember]

[willow hazel]

Sure, but in game their are hordes and specialists you need to avoid.

[brave fiber]

I already do great in damnation aurics and maelstroms, I don’t need to be a metamancer anymore than I am if I find a certain setup fun

[terse saffron]

it saved me from a lot of wipes you should try running it more

[glossy ember]

my quest for a better mkvi knife starts...

tomorrow

[terse saffron]

the 4 revive 8 rescue type wipes if you know what i mean

[eager mantle]

This is "just don't get hit" mentality and you know damn well you get hit

[glossy ember]

i like kd don't get me wrong

[woeful patio]

Ofc you can, but when the Zealot doesn’t insta DC on getting downed due to overextending like an idiot KD is what allows you to safely rez

I’m getting you wrong

[glossy ember]

ugh

[woeful patio]

You’ve blasphemied one too many times

Death sentence

[glossy ember]

look just because i run scrier with a staff and a knife

[brave fiber]

The problem isn’t being able to dodge scary enemies, it’s being able to dodge scary enemies while you’re getting smacked from behind by 4 other nerds

[woeful patio]

YUCK

[glossy ember]

it doesn't invalidate all my opinions

(it does)

[woeful patio]

Filthy Scrier user

Next you’ll say Purgatus is good

[glossy ember]

i'll have you know i have KD in my scrier build

[brave fiber]

HEY

[quasi junco]

Purgatus is good lol

[woeful patio]

Purgatus is MID

[brave fiber]

Don’t make fun of purgatus users

[glossy ember]

i can't see shit when i use it so i can't tell u

[woeful patio]

Surge staff users rise up

[brave fiber]

We WILL cry

[glossy ember]

[glossy ember]

based

[pale pilot]

so do surgestaff-based talent trees change at all with the smite/surge change?

[terse saffron]

poopgatus users seething

[quasi junco]

Surge is more boring than assail.

[woeful patio]

Yes

[pale pilot]

what's changing?

[glossy ember]

average non blitz cancelling surger...

[woeful patio]

Surge takes smite talents

[glossy ember]

it doesn't anymore

[woeful patio]

Probably not int-

What

Fuckers

No

Please no

My 10% damage vulnerability

Whatever will I do without it

https://tenor.com/view/sad-rat-crying-rat-profound-sadness-fototeta-gif-27638214

[pale pilot]

yeah surge and smite sharing smite talents was fixed like two patches ago

[glossy ember]

https://tenor.com/view/it-never-happened-jonathan-frakes-commander-riker-gif-952328961673970586

[brave fiber]

I take smite talents anyways with surge builds because I enjoy Papatine-maxing

[glossy ember]

palpapilled

[unreal dust]

Okay. I have a better feel for it now. This is definitely a pistol that basically requires 80% on stability to be even remotely accurate hipfiring on the move.

[eager mantle]

First time I used purgatus, didn't know lmb staggered pox bursters. In a game when I saw that I was bullying it into a corner while my friend kept trying to shoot it but I kept knocking it out of his aim

[unreal dust]

Shame GunPsyker buffs (Disrupt Destiny) are so buggy. Often get stuck where they just refuse to apply

[terse saffron]

wish it could delete bum gunners as easily as it does scabs though

[quasi junco]

I wonder if mods can give gunkers their own channel

[woeful patio]

Almost like the game itself is telling you to go play Vet if you want to use a gun

Based

[unreal dust]

Running Dum Dum + Infernus and its able to delete them pretty consistently on my Gunpsyker build

[olive ember]

typical surge staff L

[eager mantle]

But sibling...

[terse saffron]

yeah I'll do that when i can actually use my shit that i rolled on the wrong character

[lethal lagoon]

I didn't say I didn't get hit. I just don't take signifcant health damage or run out of block.

I.e don't need KD for bosses

[woeful patio]

Please separate the lower class Gunkers from the REAL space wizards

[quasi junco]

Anyone hear the voice lines about telling one of your teammates they have a small brain?

[quasi junco]

Happens in elevators

[untold niche]

is there any case where by a voidstrike staff 80 damage matters

[eager mantle]

I said it's the same mentality, not that is what you exactly said.

[woeful patio]

RNG Progression is a rewarding system that makes you feel good when you finally get something you wanna use and totally isn’t time padding for a game that is ultimately rushed and unfinished!!!1!

[lethal lagoon]

And I'm refuting that it's absolutely not.

[eager mantle]

It is

[lethal lagoon]

Practice versus enemy combos is not "don't get hit". Especially when other classes don't have KD lmao.

[terse saffron]

my vet is coping on placeholders for more than 100 levels already

[lethal lagoon]

KD makes people worse players, similar to smite spam. It's not a good long-term mindset.

[eager mantle]

I wouldn't mind rng on top of rng if they would just reward me more with currency to pull the level with. All the annoying things about the crafting would be subdued if we just more reliably got currency

[oak hamlet]

Anyone can help me with Malleus Monstronum penance?

[quasi junco]

It does not. With deflector I can tank gunners to build up peril. Vent. Repeat.

[woeful patio]

Another tier of weapon exists in the files and it’s likely going to finally be released next year so they can farm Reddit karma for fixing a flawed system they designed from the ground up to be unfair and repetitive

[terse saffron]

how being able to clutch otherwise lost matches making me worse? if i could pick teams that can survive on their own i could drop like 4 points and be completely fine

[eager mantle]

Im sure you will always 100% of the time have the freedom and movement and zero variables when the monstrosity spawns that all the knowledge of its combos will invalidate KD

[haughty schooner]

i think they changed that to where you have to do it solo

[lethal lagoon]

Once again, not what I said.

[untold niche]

wait isn't KD just to deflect bullets

[pine shore]

I want warp siphon for trauma. Also I want BB with trauma. But I don't want Warp Siphon with BB because to use BB I need to use my ability, which wastes all of my warp siphon charges which I want for my trauma

[eager mantle]

Again. Your mentality and how you argue it pretty much is

[woeful patio]

BB trauma? And you’re not taking EP?

[pine shore]

I hate warp siphon so much, it would be a huge buff if they removed wasting charges for CDR

[quasi junco]

I’ve had KD save me on a clutch before.

[oak hamlet]

Not yet mate it is private challenge

[eager mantle]

I don't have KD on some builds. I got the movesets mostly down. KD still good and isn't a crutch. It's just good

[untold niche]

can't find kinetic deflector :v

[pine shore]

I am not taking BB because of this. If you take Warp siphon you just delete your ability. You never want to use it

[terse saffron]

its just deflector

[woeful patio]

It’s a perk

Silly goober

[terse saffron]

KD is bottom right on talent tree

[woeful patio]

Like a skill

[willow hazel]

KD makes it easier to tank monstrocities, is great for revives, allows you to sprint/dodge more, and removes most of the need for a stamina curio

[woeful patio]

You’re thinking of the Deflector Blessing

[willow hazel]

Also it can build up peril for stuff like creeping flames

[untold niche]

this one?
oh the skill tree perk?

[woeful patio]

https://tenor.com/view/pirates-of-the-caribbean-death-goodbye-gif-23845288

[pine shore]

There is Kinetic Deflection perk and there is Deflector blessing

They are different

[woeful patio]

But they stack

[untold niche]

i thought people take this ebcause they need to take true aim anyway

[pine shore]

Yes

[woeful patio]

It’s so hot

I take KD and leave true aim

[pine shore]

no, KD is like one of your best perks

[woeful patio]

🥴

[terse saffron]

it also stacks with whatever peril resistance you have on top of that since last patch

[pine shore]

You almost always want it

[woeful patio]

KD let’s me safely build peril to quell for toughness loop

Basically Ogryn Shield

But smaller and more mobile

[terse saffron]

reality anchor + warp charges + deflector + block efficiency perk

[pine shore]

Inner Tranquility?

[eager mantle]

KD is good. You can run w/o it just don't be dumb and think it's bad or a crutch.

[pine shore]

oh, you already said warp charges

nvm

[glossy ember]

oh wow the rager nerf makes it possible for surge staff to 2 hit them without 25% maniac and without critting, although it's not consistant. But ti's possible.

[woeful patio]

Bless

[glossy ember]

maniac makes it consistant

[woeful patio]

Surge Staff Gang getting stronger

[glossy ember]

but you can do without lol

[lethal lagoon]

It's absolutely a crutch lmao, there's no arguing that. What else would it be?

It lets you ignore game mechanics.

[woeful patio]

I love consistency in my weapons!!!

[glossy ember]

if that were true you wouldn't be playing surge staff.

[terse saffron]

why did they buff ragers to only nerf them back next patch

[willow hazel]

they left in the extra boss damage on surge

[woeful patio]

Why did they nerf revolvers after saying the Rending was too good with the blessing only to nerf the blessing as well

Because they don’t play the game

[glossy ember]

aight imma try unyieldin on surge staff tomorro..

[lethal lagoon]

Which is nice. Surge hitting bosses so easily means you'll be pretty consistent dps on em.

In the pysch? Not great. In a hectic match, pretty nice.

[tiny swallow]

whats this about surge damage?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is respectable boss damage due to it's spammable nature and easy targetting after they fixed the boss multipler on surge staff.

[plucky flax]

Surge is properly back.

[untold niche]

ngl psyker has alot of useless nodes :v

[willow hazel]

By that standard everything is crutch. Assail lets you ignore hound waves, True Aim lets you ignore random crit chance, battle meditation lets you ignore quelling

[glossy ember]

the damage is really decent

much better than chasing the boss with a melee

[tiny swallow]

fixed the boss multiplier? what this fixed today or prior?

[lethal lagoon]

If you bring assail only for hound waves and can't handle them without assail, 100% a crutch. But that's not exactly common, right?

[oak hamlet]

Anyone can help me with Malleus Monstronum penance?

[willow hazel]

So if someone brings Assail for hound waves and snipers what then? Isn't that even more of a crutch becausse it lets them ignore long distance?

[plucky flax]

I like my crutches.

Crutches let me top frags every game.

[terse saffron]

#psyker-class message

[fading depot]

Grab one buddy and jump into a maelstrom with monstrous specialists

@oak hamlet

Weakened monstrosities count for the penance and you can kill it with like 5 brain bursts

[glossy ember]

woah with unyielding you need just 1 crit to 3 shot bulwark/reaper, and you can 2crit them at high peril wtf.

[lethal lagoon]

Wasting your time rezzing someone who probably deserved getting downed could easily fuck up the rest of your team. Especially if they went down in a bad enough spot that you need KD to rez them. That's not what "clutching" even remotely means.

[oak hamlet]

Weak monster will work are you sure?

[lethal lagoon]

^

[willow hazel]

I don't think you need unyielding for the bulwark 3 shot w/ 1 crit

[fading depot]

Yes, I did it a couple weeks ago

[paper loom]

I'm fucking seething ,just got vote kicked right at end of an auric mission. There was a part where all 3 of the morons were down too. Never been so angry at this game

[woeful patio]

If you have enough friends for a squad, get an Ogryn with a shield and just BB the nearest DaemonHost to get it easily

[glossy ember]

lmfao 2 crits.

[terse saffron]

nice argument buddy "dont get matched with 95% of the playerbase"

[lethal lagoon]

That's rough brother.

[woeful patio]

Why can’t we have damage numbers basegame 😔

[fading depot]

You trash talked didnt you?

[woeful patio]

Outside the Psykanium I mean

[paper loom]

Not at all

[woeful patio]

You clutched

Kickworthy

[fading depot]

Whyd they do it?

[paper loom]

I've never trash talked in this game

I have no idea

I placed a health pack then got booted lol

[fading depot]

I've never actually been vkd before that sucks

[paper loom]

Nor me either

[woeful patio]

Same

[terse saffron]

just eat a 30 minute lost match because your teammates slipped a couple of times