#psyker-class

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fading depot
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My hot take is you don't need your flawless 380 weapons to do anything, skill is more important than a few percentiles

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And did you enjoy using it or were you hung up over the idea of redditors telling you what it could have been?

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shut up jonson go back to sleep

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In vt2 you really have a "ok I got my reds, now I truly got nothing to do but keep playing"

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you will never have to re-grind those reds

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I'm still using a 473 purgatus force staff

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golden tartan
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:D

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no!

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you need carrots

severe folio
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what are you even saying anymore Grawr

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otherwise the bunnies will just hop to the next carrot

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youre on a whole different dimension right now

fading depot
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I went ahead and got myself some cool weapons because I had millions of ordos and tens of thousands of mats but at no point did I feel like I couldn't compete without them

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we're still here on 3D while your brain go back to 2D

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bows

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Fair

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fading depot
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ESPECIALLY for Psyker, literally has to be the least gear dependent class

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But its hilariously easy to make weapon skins

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Carrots good for eyesight so I can scroll through the Armory addon faster

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I disagree.

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Getting a good melee is quite relevant due to squishy nature

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atleast with high dodge count*

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I used a 460 rating knife for months for the mobility

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fading depot
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All you need nowadays is smite

golden tartan
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Look just make it slightly shinier and people will play hundreds of hours and spend thousands of dollars to buy it

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:P

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(Exaggeration sure.)

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Wait, what if instead of selling cosmetics, fatshark sold "missions" to obtain said cosmetics

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NO

fluid knot
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I'd rather not have a battlepass

golden tartan
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Me neither

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Special missions (like deeds in vt2)

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with many modifiers

golden tartan
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Ah

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Like TF2

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🤔

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YES

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u can still pay to skip it

fluid knot
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thats adding characteristic

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People will just cheese them for the cosmetiks

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onyx sentinel
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anyone ever got an issue where they can't change their loadout? even if the equipped loadout is deleted

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never heard of it

golden tartan
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Fatshark has already done a system like this for dlc career cosmetics

fluid knot
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An even if they did implement it in such a way as that, there would be only the 1% of the community earning them, because likely they'd have to be made excessively hard for people to want to buy them

golden tartan
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But yea frankly Id make cosmetics the grind part of the game

fluid knot
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And that would result in a lot of bad PR

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Like all the countless frames earned through firewalk-mapswap exploits

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And make the mechanical part just easily accessible or at least consistent

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Would reduce the grief over it anyway'

fading depot
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It was cool when cosmetics meant skill and not disposable income

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severe folio
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this is not Halo

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severe folio
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this is a lot different

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and a tad different fanbase

fading depot
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It's not that different

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Could even have the girl with all the scrolls be the manager of that system, with "freebooter" players (non-whales) occasionaly getting "deeds" for weapons instead, said weapons could be of 380 modifier

fading depot
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We already have cosmetics for doing specific challenges

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so paying costumers get "cosmetic deeds" and non-payers get "weapon deeds"

fluid knot
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A decade is a long time, back then you couldnt out an buy stuff like that, nowdays, companies are trying to incentivise purchases, not only have things for the small 1%ers

fading depot
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Just adding ones for even harder challenges is hardly a stretch

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would help emprah gifts been shit too

fluid knot
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Having penances adding more, great, but then its taking money out of FS's pocket, so paying to skip penances would just never be done, the concept is inherently flawed

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People pay to skip ff14's story

fluid knot
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Welcome to the modern world

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Cosmetics to take time and money to pump out compared to stat grinds

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ff14 is not the same

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Tbf

fluid knot
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Companies exist to make money, not hurt their own bottom line by throwing people bones

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The main story is the weakest

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and paying to skip its story is a different directive as well

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severe folio
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not to mention fatshark would never be able to pull a square enix

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Do you see a DT 2.0 5 years in the future ?

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Like I saw vt2

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I can see a full crafting rework

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VT2 did

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VT2 exist

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people thought vt2 had no future after WoM

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The jump between VT and VT2 is different from VT2 to DT

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and DT, almost identical in the model to VT2 also exist

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and you think it can happen ?

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If it could happen

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VT2 had chaos wastes

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:D

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VT2 was a huge upgrade, DT was mostly a setting change

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DT would have been the 2.0 already

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And this ain't some low fidelity game like DRG where they can keep churning out goofy joke hats under a day

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Also ye after playing DT

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VT2 is...

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deffo a prototype

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at least gameplay wise

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its much more completed than DT

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Im not gonna comment on the crafting and out of game stuff

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but the game itself DT is way more interesting

fluid knot
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You wana be careful with that talk in this discord, you'll upset some people KEKW_ogryn

obtuse walrus
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Both are good

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VT2 is just more polished by virtue of having 5 years to polish

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It is clear

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DARKTIDE NEEDS AN ABYSS BAR

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obtuse walrus
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Fantasy setting is more interesting to me personally

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the plosih VT2 receive could have been seen on DT

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WHere we can invite pubers to a round of corpse starch and corpse beer

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VT2 at launch was a buggy mess

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but we seen none of it

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it was a disaster lol

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Yes, let me get pissed and play cards with the pals KEKW_ogryn

obtuse walrus
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So we basically receive the same race as 2 years ago

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golden tartan
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VT2 launch was a disaster

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Sir Krueber (haha) ltierally crashed your game for 4 months if he charged

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and fatshark was silent for most of the launch "fixing"

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Were you guys not here for the DT launch?

obtuse walrus
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Yea DT launch was way better than VT2 launch

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It was constant bitching by everyone about the performance

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DT launch was easily like

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I didn't have issues with either of them

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1 year VT2

hushed pike
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I am guessing this is probably not worth buying from Melk?

obtuse walrus
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DT Launch was ass

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maybe 2 year VT2

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but people were all complaining

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and i was gonna take it

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not worth

bitter escarp
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VT2's launch made me go back to actually playing and finishing VT1

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DT launch was bad, but VT2 launch was a catastrophe

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Ah yes

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Just saw a dude bring Columnus Psyker

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Spent the whole time just spamming Smite on hordes

golden tartan
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Also DT's talent system is way better tbh

wind halo
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Runs out of ammo also

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VT2 didn’t have a functioning player power system at the very start, did it?

obtuse walrus
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Level 200+ btw

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VT2's talent system is... mostly meh.

half iron
hushed pike
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What is the best dueling sword for psyker?

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both

bitter escarp
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4

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Mk 4

fading depot
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There is a cool gun psyker build

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Comparing VT2 and DT like this

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But there's no point using it if you're a smite build

bitter escarp
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2 and 5 have glaring deficiencies

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mk4 has the damage, the others has the movetech

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So then, why can't they apply everything they have learnt with VT2 into DT

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On the other hand DT innovated enough for me that I can't bring myself back to VT2 despite its rocky launch

hushed pike
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(for the most part)

golden tartan
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Also different underlying engine

obtuse walrus
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I like the gameplay of both but I think the biggest downgrade with DT is the characters

bitter escarp
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VT2 is still the better narrative experience but DT feels like a slicker game

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# hushed pike movetech?

The vertical heavy can be used with slide for a big boost, on the second one you require light into heavy

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which is meh

wind halo
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Zoomers need the slide or bad game KEKW_ogryn

half iron
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every fps needs that slide

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fukin great

fading depot
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Customization is cool but it'll never match having the rapport of the 5 named characters

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Sprint + Slide = Innovation

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Modern gaming gentleman

severe folio
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let the team with 2 years experience in this game do something else and let a fresh team start on this almost exactly same model again

obtuse walrus
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I miss doing parkour to find books

compact cargo
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Ogryn slide should work like Trepang 2

bitter escarp
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eh, bit like judo banning moves tbh

obtuse walrus
halcyon creek
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half iron
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every fps in the modern era needs a slide. if the “ceiling” is 20m+ add a grapple hook too

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3 different characters for each class

bitter escarp
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artificially restrictive because boomers can't keep up

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12 > 5

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obtuse walrus
fading depot
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It's shallow

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I do miss blightstormers tho

west galleon
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Everything is better if you can slide

fading depot
obtuse walrus
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A lot of people talking out the ass in this channel.

west galleon
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I incorporated that move into my daily routine

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It's the psyker channel

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west galleon
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Grab something from the copymachine slide! back to my desk

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Ez

bitter escarp
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they managed to keep hookrat jank

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Like the entire foundation of the game has to be different because DT is using a lot more modern technologies that simply didnt exist in VT2's days

half iron
bitter escarp
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in the form of the trapper

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but the new system deffo is better than VT2

half iron
bitter escarp
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also DT probably exposes a lot more of the engine limitations, DT's greater verticality messes with sound far more than VT2

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Bon appetit

severe folio
west galleon
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Eeeeee

golden tartan
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that cant be the only reason

half iron
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i haven’t made myself a proper meal in a few days. i’m too busy eating plasteel tryna produce the coolest force sword known to non-chaos minds

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well, no matter how good of a guess i will never be able to actually know why

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all i see is the present

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Modern hardware -> Modern techniques to take advantage of the hardware -> Modern underlying engines -> New coding method

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and the present could have been better

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I work with IT research that uses GPUs and its a constantly fluctuating world

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future proofing is hard

obtuse walrus
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my code today might be obsolete in a year

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Nerf the trapper
nerf the trapper
nerf the trapper

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obtuse walrus
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We knew the concept of skill trees have been at the back of their minds early on due to datamining

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Skaven slavers were worse

obtuse walrus
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obtuse walrus
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Just dodge

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But yea, I really don't like how games nowadays are released on a buggy stat constantly

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But

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It's literally that easy

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and yeah skaven grabbers were meanieheads

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The hardware world is accelerating so fast that its kinda hard to keep up

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Launch skills were placeholders like the crafting system that they for one reason or another could afford to interate upon before launch

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fading depot
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Too bad game devs only get more corporate and money driven over time, not less

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obtuse walrus
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Nobody wants game out in 2-3 years

obtuse walrus
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Im pretty sure everyone have had their fills with 3 years developed game as of now

golden tartan
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They definitely had more ideas on the crafting system, like blessing skill trees or modifier overclocks that never saw the light of day

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NVIDIA starts pulling support around the 5 year mark for drivers for old GPUs

old tendon
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yo is dis ok

obtuse walrus
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5 years is still pretty short

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And the stagger on her vs melee weapons is ridiculous

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obsolete technology

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half iron
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stub is my favorite staff

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you saw what happened with the latest 40k ultrasmurf propaganda piece been delayed

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Which is nasty for AAA games cos AAA games usually pride themselves on having top of the line graphics

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so does that mean right now DT is using the latest technology ?

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people are sending death threats over it's delay

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because they release so early

old tendon
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and they are still updating

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for the AI development world, 5 years is an eternity

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and Nvidia's biggest market atm is AI driven/based development

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Gamers are now a secondary market

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Preordering is rampant more now than ever

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Its why we are getting increasily hilarious overkill cards.

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fading depot
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Yep

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AI development go brrr

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I want a 3090 for better blender rendering

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Tbf graphics development is a niche market

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even more niche than gaming

obtuse walrus
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And the playerbases still continue to eat it up and encourage the suits to pressure devs into increasingly rushed cycles

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Ok gaming isnt that niche

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its still a massive second place

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its just that well, when companies are buying hundreds of GPUs at once for AI development, hard to compete with that

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lmao

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but even braindead corporate companies like rockstar and bethesda have only increased their cycles time not shortened

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And its fucking cheap for their budget

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Like 100 GPUs is like the cost of a single annual salary of a skilled software dev

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Cos they get special discounts when in bulk

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granted its probably because they just realized its easier to milk their previous games for as much money as possible instead of making new ones

bitter escarp
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also investors demand safety and profit

bitter escarp
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easier to thump on an established franchise than to take risks

obtuse walrus
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Also in the gaming industry theres no such thing as too big to fail

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Cos game development is extremely expensive, and usually eats up most of the profits from the last game

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depressing outlook

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And profits come in waves

obtuse walrus
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gamer get what they deserve i guess

obtuse walrus
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corporatism ruins video games

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it's a nice middle finger when a little 10 dollar game like lethal company ends up more relevant and popular than shit garbage AAA game no# 63

bitter escarp
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honestly the most fun in games is to be found in the indie scene

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Its why the biggest gaming companies tend to make repeat runs of the same thing but slightly reskinned with the same fundamental structure over and over and over again

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See: Fallout, Redfall, Bioware

obtuse walrus
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Again, the best games seem to come out of nowhere

bitter escarp
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especially if you're looking for games and not a collection of cutscenes

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fatshark is not indie is it

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no

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not any more

obtuse walrus
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Games that had no intention to do so well

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Tencent has controlling stock in them

bitter escarp
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mount & blade

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dwarf fortress, rimworld, amazing cultivation simulator

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fukin tencent

blazing echo
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for a lot of series tho the engine is just a vehicle to carry the story and the story is what they want to tell

bitter escarp
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Tencent's building its investment portfolio rather than trying to fuck with FS lmao

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obtuse walrus
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Games from indie or small companies who's outlook is "Would be cool if you bought it... And share it! "

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Which is why they can take some necessary risks

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bitter escarp
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also, Tencent can MTX competently and aggressively, e.g. Warframe

obtuse walrus
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When the game was developed as a hobby for most of its life

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The cost to make is relatively low

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what is MTX

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bitter escarp
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none of that microtransaction milking expertise is apparent in Darktide

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Cos theres deffo a lot of "missing wages" there

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thats prob because base warframe already has so much

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The greatest cost in game development is manpower

bitter escarp
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Wages in the industry are extremely expensive

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And its hard to find talent cos of the competition

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except they price skins awkwardly so you have to buy more aquilas than you want

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bitter escarp
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yeah that's low tier shit tbh, and it's all cosmetic with no gameplay influence

obtuse walrus
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for now, tru

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Most talented software devs do not go to game dev for a reason

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But if VT2 sold new weapons in DLCs, only a matter of time for DT

bitter escarp
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many of the aggressively monetized games will sell gameplay influencing elements like currency, exclusive weapons and classes, etc

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They don't make the most profitable games like COD or Fifa unless you struck lightning like BG3

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Its pure statistics and risk vs reward

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to get a big hit you need to take big risks

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But taking big risks is just that

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A big risk

bitter escarp
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you will probably fail more often than not. Or at least run heavily red

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$1 for 1000 plasteel! $5 for this new eviscerator!

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the DLCs for VT2 sucked

golden tartan
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Lets put it this way.

Baldur's Gate, despite being so successful, is actually not that profitable!

bitter escarp
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shit like Warframe, War Thunder, the World of games

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the average spend there is stupidly high

golden tartan
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After taxes, costs, repayments, etc. the profit margin is probably like.

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30%?

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On one of the biggest AAA hits in 2020s?

obtuse walrus
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BG3 probably makes more profit with merch

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baldurs gate budget was 100 mil

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So far it's grossed over 200 mil

obtuse walrus
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Than the game itself

golden tartan
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Its more than 100 mil

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Then add in corporate tax

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Add in steam cut

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Uhhh, so i got like all 80% but warp resistance purgatus from melk, what do i do now? I'm scared to give it to hadron

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id be shocked if the current net profit after all expenditures and taxes and loan repaymentswas more than 30 mil

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  • Maintenance costs arent cheap either
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When they made Drachenfels they explicitly did it behind the trail of the the new Emporium

west galleon
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Corporations created videogames

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I'm not counting old maps that have been ported over

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Why are people being choosy beggars

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Why not?

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They have new layouts, new challenges and new assets

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Corporations corporatized them

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No they created 8bit shit

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The money made that stuff popular

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your only option is to upgrade it

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The best selling game in the entire world is Minecraft, genius

west galleon
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So?

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Who's behind that

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So that was made by ONE GUY

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you ever read an opinion so fractally wrong that you just block someone immediately

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Yea and then he sold and the money came rolling in

lethal minnow
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It will be in another language, and actually sorry, there is one stat with 79%, still can share if you want

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Do you know how much he sold it for?

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Then again, making an IP suddenly much more popular is worth its weight in gold. And Larian Studios have gained newfound reputation/fame as a very good studio (making future investment easier). So there's that as an added bonus

west galleon
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No, thats also beside the point but do tell lion

lethal minnow
bitter escarp
obtuse walrus
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Even if the game is not that profitable

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It was popular before it was sold, not after

obtuse walrus
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They still gain

lethal minnow
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Minecraft made hundreds of millions of dollars BEFORE notch sold it, it was worth so much money that Microsoft bought it from him for 2.5 billion dollars

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What Larian isnt known for is making a lot of money

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It does not take a corporation to make a successful or popular game

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It DOES take a corporation to ruin it, though, which is why the Minecraft fandom hates the Mojang devs now

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and not choosy ?

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Cos its not publically traded and the person in charge prides themselves more on delivering quality than profit

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tbh i would upgrade it. i would take a chance rather than waiting fatshark doing something

lethal minnow
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bitter escarp
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it takes that kind of ideological stance to have a company capable of bucking current trends, and even then it's hard to say BG didn't tap into the nostalgia of an old franchise

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west galleon
lethal minnow
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I like it when the chat room went from constant arguing about Assail to arguing about game monetization model, truhly a #psyker-class moment

west galleon
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As are you and everyone who isnt involved outside of throwing money at a company

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quasi junco
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Nothing wrong with cosmetic stores, the game isnt pay 2 win

bitter escarp
west galleon
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literally, what kind of fukin age are you in you buy game and call yourself beggar

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obtuse walrus
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Anyways, time to play Kingdom Come Deliverance

west galleon
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west galleon
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Lmao

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Okay

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west galleon
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Surely not upset, rather the opposite huh

wind halo
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So I tried DD Surge, worked better than Warp Siphon thats for sure

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probably because DD give more buff than Warp Siphon

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I wonder when they gonna get rid of Warp Siphon getting rid of all charges when you ult

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bitter escarp
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hard baked in the least popular class skill option

bitter escarp
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for longer smiting

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It works well

lethal minnow
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RIP (Nexus lvl3, Run'n'gun, Carapace lvl3, running efficency lvl3)

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well that was a crazy ending to grawr's analyze conversation

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Jesus

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The level 3 staff

bitter escarp
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I like the idea of smite a lot more than I do playing it

bitter escarp
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I don't know how people don't fall asleep

quasi junco
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smite only good for quick CC when your team is getting overwhelmed

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people who constantly use it are bad

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people who use the wrong tool at the right time are bad

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I crip walk through auric maelstroms keeping every mob on the map frozen in place for my team to execute. I play in windowed at like 1400 x 900 resolution and watch House on amazon prime while I do it

west galleon
lethal minnow
bitter escarp
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eh bad is overstating it but they always fukin reacharound to pat themselves on the back for the hard CC

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when sometimes having another person just swinging would be more helpful

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Damn right I do

quasi junco
# fading depot wrong

if you are constantly having to use smite either the game director hates you, or your teammates really need that CC to do anything

severe folio
bitter escarp
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if there's no ragers on screen

fading depot
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With smite and a surge staff you don't even need a melee

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I just have a shitty knife so I can manuever around more

bitter escarp
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big reason I play this game is for the slick melee

fading depot
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Lots of elites / hordes? Smite. Not a lot? Surge

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It's EZ clap

severe folio
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that sound simple to the point of vague

fading depot
wind halo
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Ahh one of those Smite griefers, classic

fading depot
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lmfao

severe folio
fading depot
severe folio
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what he said was basically people who use the wrong tool at the wrong time are bad player and theres nothing wrong with what he said

fading depot
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Using smite all the time isn't that bad though

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I don't personally do it because I like go fast

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But it still works

severe folio
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and i dont believe you never had a moment where you smite everything but nothing die because your team made a flaw decision

fading depot
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Bosses are the primary weakness

severe folio
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maybe you always use your tool at the right time

fading depot
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If your three teammates can't handle a boss even when you're keeping all the trash off them, you're toast

orchid nest
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it's safe but it does slow the game down a lot and makes it annoying for team mates that have to solve a puzzle to kill a horde instead of being able to cleave effectively

severe folio
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but that doesnt mean the bad moment doesnt exist for everyone, the kind that no one have control

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and again, its still a pretty slow game

fading depot
severe folio
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i rather switch game 3 time than staying in 1 game for the same duration of 2 games

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because the 4th game will be faster

fading depot
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My fastest mission was a 13 minute hab dreyko damnation with smite because they could do the objectives while I taze everything

bitter escarp
severe folio
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and i will feel much better than having to drag my feet through the mud

severe folio
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so again

fading depot
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Smite psyker is a support build, the speed of the match is reliant on your team

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It's not that slow

severe folio
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wrong tool at wrong time isnt the wisest decision

bitter escarp
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it's rarely just one thing that fucks up people who have some experience, it's juggling multiple elements

orchid nest
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Its not an issue in the sense that it's dangerous for your team or something but a heavy sword zealot is going to be pretty annoyed that he can't cleave them as fast

fluid knot
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Smite is giga-ass and nothing anyone has ever said or shown has changed my mind about that tbh

severe folio
quasi junco
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using smite to help ppl scan and use data interragators is good use

bitter escarp
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people fixating on a boss and getting clapped by the mixed horde

fading depot
severe folio
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well its def our experience

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and our experience are pretty real

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yours real too

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but that doesnt mean ours isnt

orchid nest
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I guess I will have to agree to disagree. they often naturally clump up less if you just don't bother with timing it right

wet belfry
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I find it faulty to judge ourselves as understanding what our weapons actually do.

fading depot
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It's also unnecessary

wet belfry
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Teammates likely have a better clue since they are unbiased.

fading depot
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Because smite will kill all the poxwalkers

bitter escarp
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this is why people gotta play all the classes

fading depot
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It's better for them to just focus on the specials and elites instead

bitter escarp
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smite plus fire shout is aight if slow

fading depot
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I've maxed out every class and psyker is not even my favorite to play, just my main because smite makes the game a lot easier

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I'd much rather be one-shotting bosses with my thunder hammer zealot, but then we die to the crowds of ragers or maulers

bitter escarp
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I ended up trying smite on gun psyker

fluid knot
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So i think we have our answer here, Smite is designed for users suffering skill issues

severe folio
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i think so

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too

fading depot
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It sounds like you're having skill issues using it if your smite matches are taking so long

severe folio
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no my smite match are actually pretty fast

bitter escarp
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smite also patches team skill issues

severe folio
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because ijust dont smite everything all the time

fluid knot
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They're not tho, because i choose to kill things instead of making myself a prop KEKW_ogryn

fading depot
severe folio
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well then youre startingto play to prevent failure

fading depot
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I can be great at the game but that doesn't mean I can always hard-carry three people

bitter escarp
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if you don't trust them to hit anything not inanimate you turn it inanimate

severe folio
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and that kind of failsafe build

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is too slow

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and not a good answer to most things

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sure, its failproof

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but that doesnt mean its not a redundancy

fading depot
severe folio
#

it could have been better but you didnt choose the better because you were afraid of failure, or that you have met too many failure

bitter escarp
#

yea the correct way is to not need the redundancy, but that's also an answer operating in a vacuum

orchid nest
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Yeah I'm on the opposite end. it's a great safety net but I stopped taking it because the situations I actually needed to smite instead of just speeding things up was pretty small

fluid knot
# severe folio sure, its failproof

Its not even that tbh, it encourages your team to do stupid shit and position themselves in terrible places, so when Smite invevitably goes down, they'll fold near instantly

bitter escarp
#

being dogmatically devoted to one extreme is a bit unhinged

severe folio
fluid knot
fading depot
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The whole benefit of smite is that i stop them from dying for it

fluid knot
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Like you can take it an watch the effects Smite has on gameplay, its incredibly evident after a few games

severe folio
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it is more substantial than loner aura, but to be honest counting 10 game, 100 game, i dont think its a big difference

bitter escarp
quartz barn
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Ye smite is cool and all but id rather just instanuke everything myself than wait for teammates to do it

bitter escarp
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people gonna take the lowest effort stance, may as well operate around that assumption

quartz barn
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  • obligatory feeling of psyker superiority
fading depot
quartz barn
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Nah just get good enough to glass canon without backup

fading depot
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But my experience playing psyker has pushed me towards smite because you can't always rely on others

quartz barn
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Not too hard if you dodge effectively

lethal minnow
fading depot
severe folio
fading depot
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But when you've got a horde, 7 shock troop specialists, and anywhere from 10-15 crushers/maulers/ragers, it's not that easy

severe folio
fading depot
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Maybe if I was a literal walking god of the game I could always do that on my own, or I could just press one button and hold it all in place and let my team handle it

bitter escarp
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damage matters a bit for LMB puffs and the soulblaze ticks, but it makes so little diff it won't meaningfully change outcomes

fading depot
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I'm not saying I always run smite, it's definitely more boring than any other build, but if I'm not feeling the bullshit and I just want to win some matches? Smite is always what I pick with

quartz barn
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Its the psyker chat, everyone here is a walking god thumbsup_ogryn

bitter escarp
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I tend to pick ogryn then KEKW_ogryn

fluid knot
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Damage beats CC, every day of the week, you dont have to do it all yourself, but clear will be much faster and smoother if you actually apply some damage rather than making yourself a bit of the scenery

mighty fractal
#

absolute cretin

severe folio
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and even if you are not a literal god thats just fine

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what matter is to eventually relief your crutch and being able to try out other alternatives as you are able to use them

fading depot
bitter escarp
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CC can be hella clutch, but people shouldn't CC bot when damage is the correct answer

orchid nest
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I would almost always rather have or be a blaze trauma user instead to be honest. Can still CC well enough and cover team mates. a smiter does make things easy for sure though. if the user could only manage to do that instead of something more skill based too because of their skill I can't fault them for it. or if they are just feeling lazy.

fluid knot
fading depot
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and as far as smite running out, my build is wrath + warp siphon specifically so I can run smite as long as possible

fluid knot
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Because uhh.. its terrible for damage

fading depot
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I don't think you read what I said

fluid knot
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You're contributing effectively no damage

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4 players damage beats 3

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Its that simple

fading depot
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Because everything is CCd, my teammates are doing more damage because they can focus on damage dealing rather than any survivability

severe folio
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hes doing the vent shriek smite

fluid knot
fading depot
#

Also, smite + soulblaze wipes out lesser enemies in droves easily

glossy ember
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my problem with smite is there's some inconsistancy in what it catches when there's too many targets. Often enough I see a poxwalker just wakling for free, or one popping behind me, forcing me to release anyway

fading depot
#

I do the most damage and get the most kills in almost every game I play

severe folio
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well Lion

quartz barn
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Ye wait just run purg or trauma if you want cc

severe folio
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then you dont play often enough

fluid knot
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If you're Smiting every horde, i find that exceptionally difficult to beleive

severe folio
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that everytime you play you only receive bad players

bitter escarp
#

mans got a strat for corralling potatoes

quartz barn
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No you can cc every horde, its just not enough on A/ AM

bitter escarp
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works for him

fading depot
quartz barn
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Because youll always need people to deal with the special spam

fading depot
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171 hours in the last two weeks

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if thats not often enough i dont know what is

bitter escarp
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you ok there, that's more than full time work

fading depot
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Since the class overhaul I've put in about 400 hours

wet belfry
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Just running venting shriek could give up to 300k damage

wet belfry
#

I dont see it being to unreasonable that its possible to top damage.

fluid knot
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It'll work in normal Damnation, its a cakewalk, not in A/AM

wet belfry
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Though that speaks more about venting shriek then smite.

fading depot
#

You're really underestimating soulblaze

fading depot
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I blaze everything, which also allows me to keep smiting longer, blaze kills a lot, which gives me charges, which also allows me to smite longer

mighty fractal
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i think the point is that there are better soulblaze applicators

fluid knot
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No, I'm not, you could deal far more damage just by running Purga/Shriek, you know Purga, that flamerthrower with inifinite cleave

fading depot
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I do mountains of damage in an ALMOST infinite feedback loop

bitter escarp
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why don't you two just hop into games with each other

fading depot
fluid knot
fading depot
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No, that's a gameplay limitation of not running smite

fluid knot
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Spicy tip, Purga LMB staggers basically everything

mighty fractal
#

you only need to channel smite for a little bit to shut down the horde and the elites/specials inside of it

fading depot
#

Not around corners and at multiple angles, and not nearly as long

lethal minnow
#

Is that normal that 5th time in a row hadron gives me first perk as Running efficency on staff?

fluid knot
#

It doesnt need to be for long, it actually puts out enough damage that you can move forward without being a prop

severe folio
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most of my purga run i press out 500k damage in a low intensity

fading depot
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I'm saying you're wrong in assuming you can't do good damage with a smite build

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I prefer the smite build because I can still clear out hordes and do good damage, but I'm more useful for the team overall, especially in emergencies (and in auric damnation, you run into a lot of emergencies)

fluid knot
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Im not assuming you cant do some damage, but you're not topping damage, or relevant kills with it, unless your team is actually braindead

fading depot
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But that's really the point, aint it? Even if my teammates are bad, I can get them through the mission either way

fluid knot
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Good for you, I've played Smite/Shriek and there are a LOT of other options

fading depot
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and I've played them

fluid knot
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Which do nearly everything, better

fading depot
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I've just found that to not be the case

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So we just disagree

fluid knot
severe folio
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i have to ask though

fluid knot
#

You can build for all the contingencies you like, but you cant build for stupid

fading depot
#

I think you don't really know how long you can actually keep smite up

severe folio
#

what do you mean by not controlling the flame staff well

fading depot
#

It's near infinite if your build is right

fluid knot
fading depot
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I guess I'm just wrong, having been using it so much for the last month and seeing it for myself

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The guy who doesnt even like the build knows more about it than me, who uses it every day

fluid knot
#

I just think you're coping in standard Damnation tbh

orchid nest
#

you definitely can top damage with mediocre team mates but it's also because you stop them in column and then shriek them, stopping your team from cleaving them as effectively and then using your ability that is great at cleaving in a cone. they are still dead at the end of the day but yeah, I would have rather had a purg or trauma user

fading depot
#

I haven't dipped out of auric damns since I stopped grinding hab dreykos

fluid knot
#

If that was the case, you would be less wiling to effectively be making yourself a bot

summer prairie
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Smite is without a doubt the strongest psyker blitz and one of the strongest blitzes in the game

fading depot
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That's what I'm telling these nerds

summer prairie
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but you only use it a few times a run

fading depot
#

They don't believe me

lethal minnow
fading depot
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But outside of the hordes you surge

severe folio
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its not that we dont believe the result of your game

fading depot
#

I'm just thinking you're playing with bad smite psykers honestly

severe folio
#

its just that we know you are limiting your options down to safety and justifying them because they give the least failure

summer prairie
#

You lock everything down regardless of the # of threats, it's not even hard to grasp

fading depot
orchid nest
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yeah I don't think it isn't strong either. it's just boring and I'd rather have another dps and lose one now and then rather than whack-a-mole. and have a little faster rounds on average. I'm not gonna queue dodge a smiter or anything though, just preference

mighty fractal
#

now DOUBLE purg + smite psykers... that's when you queue dodge

mighty fractal
fading depot
lethal minnow
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Thank you guys very much for help

fading depot
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There's no real situation where you'd ever need two smite psykers

mighty fractal
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I love it when I'm the only sniping option on the team

severe folio
summer prairie
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it doesn't matter if there are two smite psykers if they both have creeping flames

fading depot
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One of the things I like about psyker is not having to worry about ammo or grenades whatsoever

severe folio
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you shouldnt feel like you have to do so because of youe teammate

fading depot
#

I played gun psyker four times and I got flamed by veterans twice 💀

severe folio
#

i notice every point come down to “but my teammate will fail”

fading depot
#

they want their ammo

severe folio
#

that shouldnt be why you settle to smite

fading depot
#

Not wanting to compete with teammates isnt hte same as saying they'll fail

cosmic sigil
#

and i was like, no, bolter, ogryns first

severe folio
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compensate with teammate, prevent them from failing, not really different

cosmic sigil
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i'll go after

fading depot
#

Not all vets are created equal

severe folio
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if you are compensating youe teammate then unfortunately most of the time you are overcompensate

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because not every run is a failure and you could be allowed to do so much more

fading depot
severe folio
#

well I also enjoy the purgatus but even I know its not the brightest flame next to voidstrike

orchid nest
#

I don't even really use much ammo as gunker to be honest, except I'll ammo dump a monstrosity. mainly because I know I can still be alright and not take everyones ammo. if they say anything negative to begin with they'll stop when you mark ammo for them instead of taking it.

runic siren
#

Jo what perks for purgation staff?

severe folio
#

same as smite have its use but not the brightest thing next to other things

silk hawk
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last game with a void/smite/EP, been chilling almost whole game

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that is a such stress less build Xd

mighty fractal
#

smite can help your team get out of a bad jam when a million ragers/maulers show up with some muties and trappers

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though in that case

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I'd rather just run Trauma

severe folio
fading depot
mighty fractal
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(which is what I do)

runic siren
#

What perks for the purgation staff? Unarmoured good?

silk hawk
severe folio
severe folio
wet belfry
#

COULD BE HIGHER

orchid nest
wet belfry
#

What are you a casual?

silk hawk
wet belfry
#

only 870k in like 40 minutes as psyker?

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Gotta work on them numbers man. BIG REAL ESTATE requires it.

silk hawk
severe folio
#

idk what hes talking about

wet belfry
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Im coping over veteran.

mighty fractal
#

35-40min is fairly common on histg/mael

untold niche
#

There a mod that give you any weapon you want in psk?

severe folio
#

yeah there is

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its call loadout config

untold niche
#

Thanks bossman

plucky flax
lethal minnow
#

I wonder what are good curio perks for Assail Shriek psyker? Something like Ability Regen/Gunner res/(Something else?)

severe folio
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just the usual curios

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the codex pinned in the channel should have info about psyker curio

wet belfry
#

Preferably more then 6 zeroes

untold niche
silk hawk
#

u mean 1kk + xD?

untold niche
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That's one million

silk hawk
#

i am almost sure that i saw 1kk+ dmg done only in true duo/solo runs...well, at least most of the time

plucky flax
#

Last game I played catJAMCRY

untold niche
#

Wait why not just type 1m instead of 1kk

plucky flax
untold niche
#

Flexing your God roll build hmmgryn

plucky flax
silk hawk
plucky flax
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I dunno what you mean by that I just play how I normally play.

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Grab all the plasteels. whatthefuck_heresy

untold niche
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Plasteel farming.i want to have 200 acres of plasteel farmland

plucky flax
#

Man sameee

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I used to have 80k+.

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Now I am broke.

silk hawk
plucky flax
#

And some new weapon marks are coming.

untold niche
#

YOU PROBSVLY ALR DO STAHP TRYING TO RELATE TO PEASANTS

untold niche
#

Is that 40k reference

plucky flax
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Low on ordos low on plasteels.

silk hawk
plucky flax
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A fate worse than death.

untold niche
#

Let me Google that.

silk hawk
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wet belfry
#

Thats coming from an australian?

plucky flax
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wtf is this hair

frail sand
#

I has rolled a better surge staff

lethal lagoon
#

Still trying to roll for a surge stat with free perks.

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Shouldn't be this hard 😦

untold niche
#

Smite max targets?

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No augment no EP

lethal lagoon
#

Pubs rough tonight.

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To be clear, no one was dead till the end.

untold niche
lethal lagoon
#

I have yet to hit max smite targets in an actual game

untold niche
#

My finals are finally over so more excited

hushed pike
#

Do I want toughness on peril quelled or toughness on peril generated

lethal lagoon
#

In the pysch I've heard someone mention a single chain can hit 6, but distance is unknown

lethal lagoon
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And general build

hushed pike
#

And bubble shield

lethal lagoon
#

Laspistol? Neither lmao.

hushed pike
#

I have to pick one

lethal lagoon
#

why, cause you want battle med?

hushed pike
#

I do want battle med yes

lethal lagoon
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Then on quell probably

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It syncs with battle med

hushed pike
#

Oh good point

patent hatch
#

Use revolver instead, more battle meddy and better idk

hushed pike
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I want laspistol.

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I don't wish to use revolver on literally every char. :/

frail sand
patent hatch
#

copium

hushed pike
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I only use it on my zealot.

frail sand
hushed pike
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And that's until the new revolver comes out.

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Cause I use the current one the way that the new one is meant to be used.

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quick swap spam fan

patent wing
#

why do ppl recommend uncanny on deimos? i just use special to kill the armored stuff

frail sand
#

special locks u in, is dangerous

patent wing
#

good point

steel sluice
#

driptide

hushed pike
#

Since u have that chest already

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Can you preview it with a certain pair of pants? : D

steel sluice
#

which pants?

hushed pike
#

The pants on the last page of the aquila shop

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I'm loading out of the meat grinder right now

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These pants.

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I wanna see if they match the top, or if the blacks are too different.

steel sluice
hushed pike
steel sluice
hushed pike
#

Hmm I think I'll get some aquilas later this week methinks.

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ty for ur help

glossy ember
#

assail's fun but god damn i am feeling the lack of that -5% peril generation node

steel sluice
glossy ember
#

ok i might be trolling

cosmic sigil
#

can i vent my frustration on psykers not taking the ammo crate in damna like it's not thei business ffs?

zenith zealot
#

no

plucky flax
#

I don't use ammo it's not my problem. whatthefuck_heresy

glossy ember
#

gonna try this instead of pc

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11k damage from PC

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when i have tons of elite/special kills

plucky flax
zenith zealot
cunning yew
#

Those damn veterans want psykers to carry the ammo box, yet cannot carry the burden of warp on their shoulders staregryn

wind halo
lethal minnow
glossy ember
#

wait for fatshark to fix ur baldness

cunning yew
#

Baldshark

lethal minnow
glossy ember
#

i used the exact same fashion but blue variant

steel sluice
glossy ember
#

it just ain't the same without hair...

lethal minnow
steel sluice
#

If it was still around I’d recommend the death korps set, was rocking that till the new set dropped

ornate hamlet
#

Why couldn't I get this setup on the equipped stats D:

lethal minnow
steel sluice
#

Hmm, not sure how you’d get more bulk than that on psyker atm.

fading depot
#

I went for like

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An agent look

untold spindle
crimson zealot
lethal minnow
steel sluice
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Mine I just put together some nice stuff that blends well with the whole gun psyker style.

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Feels like someone that’d be on the front with the guardsmen

fading depot
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I like it cus Psyker doesn't have a lot of sets that are just like

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Clothes

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I felt like I was a fuckin astronaut

untold niche
#

What do I do on a mixed horde?
Void -> shriek -> smite
Or
Smite -> shriek -> smite

Am running crit void build

lethal minnow
#

Actually the most unique and best drip in games comes from combining things from different sets. It is often really hard to combine them nicely, but when you find that one combo it feels so good

steel sluice
#

Unload the machine gun, wait wrong class

steel sluice
torpid breach
#

I just go with the moebian set for now, wanna get that top with the cape but god damn the collar hurts me just looking at it

lethal minnow
# steel sluice Too true with psyker. The chest pieces and collars having different colors is th...

There is a mod called 'For the drip', that locally can change the colors/textures of different pieces of armor. But it is local so ony you can see that and cry that something similar is not in the game. Atleast some color schemes with set colors would improve the game cosmetic aspect for a lot, like A LOT. Maybe it is possible that obesefish would add it if enough players would ask for it, after all this would motivate people to buy more stuff from ventures

cunning yew
lethal minnow
# severe folio thicker legs

I was thinking about it, but i just couldn't find anything thicker WITH armor, there is an option for thick cloth legs, or this one

hasty kraken
#

This, is a shit penance.

fading depot
#

Y?

hasty kraken
#

Because its hard to maintain charges due to everyone just killing elites like there is no tommorow.

fading depot
#

My advice is to go for a shock troop mission

torpid breach
#

It is a shit penance indeed, you need that node where teammate elite kill also gives you a charge and play on missions with fucktons of specials and elites

hasty kraken
#

Im trying to get that penance while also getting "Headburst enemies while at max charges"

fading depot
#

It isn't too hard

hasty kraken
#

Sure, headburst with almost no cast time reduction, sure pal.

torpid breach
fading depot
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The node only gives u charges for elite kills you get

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Not teammates elite kills

torpid breach
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Oh, i got it mixed up then

hasty kraken
#

I think they meant this, no?

fading depot
#

Yeah don't do that one

summer prairie
#

a 25minute maelstorm in quickplay with 708 total damage taken overall (as in all players)

torpid breach
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Yea i did get it mixed up it seems

fading depot
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For the penance go elites

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Hop into an auric maelstrom

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No shortage of gunners and bulllshit to pop

zenith zealot
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warp charges fall off one by one now, i did this shxt when warp charges vanish all together

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just make sure u bring psychic vampire

torpid breach
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To be fair, if your team has turbo chaff clearer then that 4% miiiight have a chance to pop

zenith zealot
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alot more than you expect it to

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dont even need turbo chaff clear

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turbo chaff clear would shorten the duration of your max warp charge

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killing chaff at average speed drags out the duration the most

dusty girder
zenith zealot
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its just a matter of not using your ability honestly

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that's your biggest obstacle

torpid breach
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True, id imagine i have to stop myself from popping shriek

zenith zealot
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dont really need to give this maniac dmg

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only maniac u'll have trouble with is ragers

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and this weapon doesnt scream "rager killer" no matter what

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carapace is worthy of consideration tho

dusty girder
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yeah I usually use the staff / assail for most enemies, but the sword helps against crushers

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maybe even unyielding to get some boss damage, I really don't know psyker enough

zenith zealot
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also try to get in the habit of heavy attack + special attack as the main combo for taking down crushers

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if u can do it fast enough its basically a rapid double stab that staggers crusher, if both hit weakspot means u double stack uncanny

ornate hamlet
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Just ya basic Psy murdering hordes

dusty girder
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good to know thanks! a friend advised against it, so I wasn't doing it at all. I'll try out it yay

zenith zealot
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plus stacking uncanny purely from heavy is slower than doing it this way

ornate hamlet
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Should I do Auric sectors today?

zenith zealot
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would probably advice against jumping into it with a random team tho

ornate hamlet
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I've sadly never had a team

glossy ember
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just pug it

ornate hamlet
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I just do Rando's cause meme's

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Some how we do win

zenith zealot
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never tried the discord vc?

glossy ember
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pugging is fine

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and fun

torpid breach
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Pugging is for people who like the chaos

zenith zealot
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do u my friend

fading depot
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The chaos is fun

zenith zealot
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as long as i win through the chaos and get all the mats

fading depot
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In the words of Sienna, go new places, make new friends, little one

ornate hamlet
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AURIC MISSIONS A HO

zenith zealot
fading depot
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I fucking love auric missions RAAAAAAH

zenith zealot
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making friends didnt go well did it?

fading depot
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So glad we didn't have to wait as long as we had to wait for Cataclysm in VT2

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I like a game that will just fucking kill me

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Still tho

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Give us difficulty 6 and call it Armageddon 😈

fluid knot
fading depot
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I haven't tried it, I just pug

fluid knot
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A number of times i've joined lobbies in here an asked is everyone auric capable and people will just outright lie and say yes, expecting you to carry them

fading depot
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I did it for GTFO though, you straight up cannot play GTFO with the matchmaking

zenith zealot
fluid knot
zenith zealot
quasi junco
fading depot
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Good point

fluid knot
fading depot
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Wym I am Auric capable I just did a heresy low intensity auric this morning I am pro

frigid zenith
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Auric capable = Able to not get dunked by hordes and not stopping to kill every melee horde thing around. Sometimes you just have to kite shit to the next area.

summer prairie
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the game already has settings (hp/mass adjustments etc) for the sixth difficulty, though that has been the case for ages

fading depot
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I gotta wait on people to catch up

fluid knot
fading depot
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My buddy has fallen to open toxicity in game chat now because of it

fluid knot
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Can't say i blame him, though its not my style, its particularly aggravating after a week solid with barely seeing a player above level 40

frigid zenith
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I admit, I've had some choice words for people in-game.

fluid knot
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A few times, sure that can be fun having to hyper-carry, but my fucking god it gets tiring doing it all the time

fading depot
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I don't do it either, I just silently judge

untold niche
quasi junco
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Lol I just leave lobbies if I see someone rocking blue gear in Auric