psyker-class

[vast yew]

You’re usually better off with dome or shriek

Which melee weapon were you using?

[orchid venture]

I tried once with the mkV dueling saber, and again with the illisi

Oh, and another time with my rashad, but i don't think i like the combat axes much anymore

[obtuse river]

What perks/blessings for purg staff?

[severe folio]

force glaive is real

[half iron]

need

[vast yew]

Nexus flurry crit chance… Flak? maniacs?

I don’t know if the other perk matters much

[plucky flax]

This guy in the video seems kinda good?

[vast yew]

He’s still learning but he’s getting there yea

[plucky flax]

He'd do fine in sedition like me.

[vast yew]

Oh god I can’t do sedition

I just run around the Psykanium

Much safer there

[plucky flax]

[half iron]

i main low intensity sedition

[vast yew]

I build for breakpoints on Unarmored Sedition targets

[severe folio]

i did it

i put the head of columnus on my staff

[vast yew]

Well that’s enough internet today

Good night guys

[half iron]

lore accurate voidstrike

[plucky flax]

Sleep well.

[echo turtle]

Being selfish in war is a liar, they rock 800k a game and don't even touch the sprint button

They only do sedition as community service

[severe folio]

its proper height now

[orchid venture]

do they just not show the build in this vid?

[thick pivot]

Drew the Redacted Penace Psyker fit, whatchu think?

[gloomy magnet]

imba

[hearty dagger]

Oompa loompa psyker

[severe folio]

what does that penance do

WHAT DOES IT DO

[hearty dagger]

It makes me feel pain

[ripe yacht]

How does purg staff work with true aim? Can you get multiple stacks off a single channel? Can you stack and proc it on a channel?

[blazing echo]

that is.... something

[ornate hamlet]

does surge blessing work on the voidstrike secondary?

[severe folio]

yes

[severe folio]

too bad the void ball doesnt form at the tip of the barrel

[strong gulch]

Purg LMB and RMB doesn't hit weak spots, so it can't proc true aim. Staff bonk can tho.

When you have the 5 stacks up for a guaranteed crit, both LMB and RMB can use the crit. It's not continuous crits tho; just a tik of soulblaze.

[plucky flax]

[sterile grove]

what is that

[misty cypress]

is the pinned info on purg staff being good with crit still up to date? says you apply more soulblaze stacks with a crit?

[sterile grove]

why did you make that

[hearty dagger]

Gentlemen, i am about to 100% all Psyker penances.

[umbral helm]

speaking of the staff bonk; while not reliable in the slightest, I have gotten into the habit of occasionally weaving one or two into mixed hordes while I'm channeling. bonk a rager and knock em on their ass to stop their little combo

[crude cape]

just dueling sword things

[severe folio]

columnus Mk1 Ballistica Force Staff

[severe folio]

i want to shoot bolt

[severe folio]

yes

[tulip trench]

bricked? or no?

[onyx sentinel]

Has anyone considered doing blazing trauma, but chuck out the blazing part and replace it with Flurry? Basically crit trauma.

Okay hear me out. The most dangerous part of histg/maelstrom is killing specials and patrols quick enough so you don’t get fucked on the next horde wave.
Blazing does a great job at spreading 9-12 stacks of SB on demand every 30 seconds or so, but from my experience this is inconsistent and doesn't kill things you want quick enough, and having shriek on cd can catch you off at a bad time sometimes. The 6 stacks from blazing itself feels lackluster on anything than chaffs.
Rending shockwave is great in theory, but I've found in that level of play people would have already brought their own high rend/finesse/aoe option to deal with crushers and maulers - I don't really notice the practical benefit most of the time since Trauma can juggle them easily anyway.

So in defense of blazing flurry crit trauma; Crit procs, at high enough damage% stat, allows you to hit breakpoints you otherwise wouldn't. For example a trauma with %flak can one shot shotgunner patrols at full charge, it also reduces the number of full charge shots needed to kill other elites by at least one amount, and proccing full charge crits very quickly with flurry in general is better than applying SB or rending for killing things in general, which includes blessed elites/specials and I think it's arguably more important than what the traditional builds do.

I've only done a couple of histg auric and a maelstorm run, but so far I'm not missing the blazing spirit or rending at all. Anyone has any thoughts?

Thanks for coming to my TED talk
tl;dr crit trauma with flurry goes hard, tell me how it's wrong and I'm an idiot

[late yew]

They don't combine well

You need high peril to benefit from nexus

And you need low peril to benefit from flurry

So yes, you are wrong and an idiot

[onyx sentinel]

You can easily maintain full stacks of flurry at 100%, you only need two ticks of quell (even at 30% warp resistance!) to fire off another full-charged shot

[late yew]

With blaze trauma you can just keep spamming it at around 70-80 peril having permanent +20% to crit chance

[spice veldt]

flurry stacks are kept even if you don't continuously fire off

[late yew]

Aaah, right

Forgot that it is now a thing

then yeah

I think blaze overrated anyhow

[onyx sentinel]

I'm officially karkpilled and based

[late yew]

I checked stats, and soulfire damage was like 1/5 of ranged damage done

[severe folio]

curse

[onyx sentinel]

maintaining full stacks of Nexus and Flurry at the same time

[potent echo]

It also means you can run perfect timing better, probably with 15% PT you don't even need crit to kill shotgunners

[onyx sentinel]

No unfortunately, I have a 79% damage staff and a full stack is just short of one shotting shotgunners even with +%flak

[late yew]

... so you actually would one-shot them with blaze lmao?

[onyx sentinel]

nah, 3 stacks of sb is a pathetic amont of damage still, I'll see if it even kills before it expires

[potent echo]

you run the 5% ranged node?

also i always belived in nexus flurry as well

ok nvm the 5% ranged node doesnt work with trauma, F

[severe folio]

i really want to get a transfer peril voidstrike now

[potent echo]

but if i run the 5% elite aura i can oneshot shotgunners with some warp charges, slightly cursed

or you can run 25% flak with 10% elite

[onyx sentinel]

takes about 8-9 ticks to kill a shotgunner after a full charged non-crit shot at max perfect timing stacks, but that would involve getting the blaze stack on them in the first place

[wind halo]

So is Void Nexus + Surge Voidstrike better than Void Flurry + Transfer Peril Voidstrike now?

Or is it just a meme

[severe folio]

which one better

[onyx sentinel]

@plucky flax I don't know anyone else who run blazing trauma in maelstrom, would love to get your thoughts or even a run or two for a different opinion

[potent echo]

peril transfer is really bad

after playing more, i feel that void without surge is not really worth it

either flurry surge / nexus surge

i run flurry surge

[severe folio]

why transfer peril bad

[potent echo]

only procs once

and it procs over a period of time

if you cast again it will cancel the proc

lame

[severe folio]

that sound like a bug

[potent echo]

maybe

[wind halo]

I'm guessing for Surge you go 10% crit on the tree?

Do you need +5 crit on the staff?

[summer prairie]

what do you mean procs once https://streamable.com/bb5r7w

[severe folio]

seem like +5 crit perk isnt bad

[plucky flax]

Tbh I just don't see the point of flurry on a 80% charge rate trauma.

[severe folio]

the damage chart of voidstrike is pretty even out to everything except for carapace

[zenith zealot]

this look good?

[ionic sorrel]

Would probably switch block for something.

[severe folio]

crit chance is right

maniac or flak instead of block maybe

maybe maniac

[zenith zealot]

yea was comtemplating it

well i got my answers so thanks

[late yew]

that is not true at all

I definitely seen peril drop by like 40% sometimes

and it does not "proc over period of time"

It is just UI thing

get True Peril mod

[idle aurora]

this is like a must have, helps a ton with consistency

I hope it's one of qols that we be included at some point

[severe folio]

minimalistic staff

[potent echo]

maybe my headshotting is just bad

[summer prairie]

if you stack enemies on top of each other in the grinder, you don't seem to get procs, might be due to the explosion somehow first moving the heads around

or when the explosion and projectile damage trigger simultaneously, it doesn't count as a weakspot hit

but that would be a bit weird

[potent echo]

in practice its also hard to line up heads due to enemy height differences etc

[severe folio]

and them being knocked down by the explosion, or your teammates

[unique sand]

do i buy this?

[summer prairie]

no

[sharp hollow]

should i snag this from melk?

[zenith zealot]

pen too low

[sharp hollow]

not sure if penetration is a dump stat

[zenith zealot]

perks are shxt

[sharp hollow]

fair enough

[zenith zealot]

i'd treat cleave dmg as the dum stat here

[unique sand]

what blessings am i looking for for a trauma staff

[sharp hollow]

any secret knowledge on how to get surge faster

for voidstrike

[unique sand]

idk still dont have it

[sharp hollow]

i wasted a hefty few thousand plasteel trying to get it already

[zenith zealot]

best bet is to just grind

and bless your shxt til its yellow

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/snow-cat-snow-shovel-shovelling-snow-cat-kitty-gif-9135134717930397288

[zenith zealot]

and hope u get the right one

[sharp hollow]

that is what i've been doing

ah well

[unique sand]

a lil too expensive tbh

[zenith zealot]

if u dont get it, well, rng

[unique sand]

blue is more cost effective

[onyx sentinel]

flurry at three stacks gives .33 sec reduction to full charges for 80% charge staves. For perspective, .33 sec is the difference between a 58% and a 80% charge rate trauma.

I guess another way to see it is you're not paying a lot of opportunity cost bringing Flurry versus Blazing at higher levels due to the reasons I mentioned, unless I'm misjudging just how valuable blazing is.

[summer prairie]

and cleave damage is basically penetration but vs unarmored and infested

[sharp hollow]

chances for a t4 blessing on a blue item are slim to none

[zenith zealot]

either u waste extra plasteel and make use of that useless diamantine too, or u bet on that 5% chance to get a t4 on blue

at least from what i heard, its a 5% chance to get t4 on blue

[sharp hollow]

and surge is only t4

[zenith zealot]

exactly

[unique sand]

yellow costs like a shitload more diamantine

i mean palsteel

plasteel

[sharp hollow]

it does, but your chances are much higher too

[half iron]

that’s why we collect plasteel and diamantine. it’s the only stat that matters

[zenith zealot]

have u been grinding any force sword blessings?

[dim parrot]

gimme that uncanny 4 for my illisi

[sharp hollow]

wish there was a trade option for diamantine

[zenith zealot]

i only bless till yellow, and i have all the t4 blessings for them now

if u only gamble till blue, i'd like to know how much t4 blessings u've collected

[unique sand]

blessings worth a cop?

[zenith zealot]

on like, any weapon at all

[zenith zealot]

bloodthristy is shxt, well on illisi is ok ig

if u really want to make use of blazing spirit, i'd recommend getting shred to replace bloodthristy

[unique sand]

is t4 deflector worth the buy

[zenith zealot]

infested is kinda terrible as a perk, so it's gotta go

[summer prairie]

I'd get it for bloodthirsty, somewhat rare and might be worth using at some point

[unique sand]

i got an obscurus with t4 deflector in melkshop

[zenith zealot]

deflector is a meme, having just t1 is enough, unless u're opting for a block build where u tank demonhosts, there's no reason for t4

[unique sand]

ah

[zenith zealot]

bloodthristy requires u to get a kill with your special warp attack on force swords, so on something like deimos or obscurus, its a bit too slow to be worth it in a game like this

but it could work on illisi horde clear since it doesnt have an animation everytime u hit something

this game's too fast pace in the late stages for bloodthristy to feel good

if they made it 50% chance to crit on special attacks, i'd consider it alot more tbh

[glossy ember]

ok i f i wanna do melee only maelstrom i definitely need carapace on my weapon

that's a lot of crushers

[zenith zealot]

melee only psyker??

[glossy ember]

you misread

or i miswrote

[glass lotus]

Already asked on reddit but what perks/blessings would you change here for a crit build?

[zenith zealot]

u said melee only maelstrom

and u're in psyker chat

[sharp hollow]

give me that surge

[glossy ember]

yeah the maelstrom where there are only melee enemies.

so a melee only maelstrom

[zenith zealot]

ah i see

scab faction melee only

i see

[glass lotus]

I'm sorry

[sharp hollow]

so i've been wondering, how does surge even work? does it just spawn 2 extra projectiles on a crit hit?

[zenith zealot]

1 extra

[sharp hollow]

does it do the same damage as the original?

[zenith zealot]

dont think so

unless u crit on the 2nd one too

u gotta crit on the first one to fire a second one

[summer prairie]

They both crit

[zenith zealot]

and the game doesnt decide the crit when it hits, it decides when its firing

so if its decided to be a crit, u fire both shots simultaneously

[plucky flax]

The value of blazing spirits is after applying 6 stacks, you then shriek and bring elites to 12 stacks. It's a lot of spread damage.

[west galleon]

Hello friendos, I need your opinions!:
I cannot figure this out, does disrupt destiny give more % bonus in dmg than warp battery or am I missing something

[plucky flax]

Also for chaffs 6 stacks are enough to kill all of them.

So against shooters behind cover, even if you miss, as long as you manage to land 2 crits on them they'll burn to death.

[summer prairie]

It gives more than warp battery on weakspot hits

[glass lotus]

Is +% critical damage perk really as bad as everyone says?

[summer prairie]

You only need around 10-12 to outperform with void

[sonic summit]

i'm thinking about changing one of the perks to crit chance, which one would you guys replace?

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma melee maelstrom meme

[west galleon]

Ty, DD doesnt work in meatgrinder for whatever reason so I was hesitating to actually go straight into auric with it

[zenith zealot]

definitely sprint efficiency no??

[tawny kite]

Anywhere i can ask for a refund? I bought the praesimiagoria mk ib rebreather bc i thought it had the same voice as the ic

[half iron]

even highest mat collection. i am proud to be a sibling

[plucky flax]

Always most mats pickup.

Plasteels ain't picking themselves.

[half iron]

omg so true

[zenith zealot]

u guys realize u cant headshot maulers with voidstrike?

[summer prairie]

you can, it just doesn't show up as orange if it's the first target you hit

[zenith zealot]

is that why?

[summer prairie]

or maybe it never gets properly marked but the damage isn't the same

[zenith zealot]

it also shows it as flak armor even tho its head is carapace

and it also doesnt deal as much dmg as it says on attack breakdowns

[summer prairie]

+carapace still increases the damage

it does about the same as the listed carapace weakspot hit

[zenith zealot]

nvm the dmg fixed itself

stilll deal less dmg tho

but just 6 now

[summer prairie]

+flak increases the damage too but only because the explosion damage hits the flak part and is included in the damage popup

and it barely helps

but this also somewhat explains why it shows up as flak, I guess

[zenith zealot]

i also just realize that trying to get a shot in at 100% peril then quelling with venting doesnt work

cuz it just doesnt shoot, u just go into blowing yourself up

[summer prairie]

they don't want you to be able to shoot indefinitely at 100% with transfer peril

[spice veldt]

DD marks enemies if invisibility is off, though there's the extra requirement of only human-sized patrol enemies being marked

[zenith zealot]

i see

flak or maniac dmg, what should i switch

for voidstrike that is

i wanna get 5% crit chance

[summer prairie]

flak is just better

[zenith zealot]

so i switch maniac

[glossy ember]

knife + surge staff is a fun loadout

[cold yacht]

My fellow witches (specifically those who played before the class overhaul) what were the abilities like before the overhaul and do you miss them?

[mint pivot]

brainburst lite

and thats it

[half iron]

i miss not assail

[spice veldt]

i certainly don't miss it

[plucky flax]

Post 13 psyker is so op compared to before.

[spice veldt]

the patch 12 era was painful for a number of reasons

[plucky flax]

I miss infinite dodges that's about it.

[unkempt light]

Last time Psykers were eating this good was during the Pre-Beta, so I don't blame anyone for not missing Pre-Patch 13 Psyker

[zenith zealot]

u are not forced to lose your fking warp charges just cuz u use an ability

[plucky flax]

Give back infinite dodges

[spice veldt]

the abilities were basically venting shriek + warp siphon keystone

and a little bit of the stuff spread around the tree

[plucky flax]

And handcannon assail

[spice veldt]

Psykinetic's Aura was +15% CDR instead of +5% CDR

[half iron]

i remember ye olden days back when all warp charges disappeared after the effect expired

[mint pivot]

I cannot play anything other than psyker after getting used to being able to block with peril...

[cold yacht]

Wow I was not expecting everyone to just tell me that everything is indeed better now

[plucky flax]

I miss pre 13 vet sustained fire bolter tho.

That was the most op build.

[unkempt light]

Man, I remember when I only had Obscurus for the Force Sword option.

[half iron]

i remember back when people called brain burst a head highlighter

[unkempt light]

Deimos and Illisi absolutely wreck in comparison

[mint pivot]

ngl psyker was absolute dogshit when the game first released... Like literally gimping your team by being a psyker levels of bad

[sonic summit]

save your talent points xd

[zenith zealot]

least they were easier to get

[unkempt light]

That's still the case. Vets still shoot highlighted mobs. Even me when I run Vet

[zenith zealot]

u just gotta burst some randos

[half iron]

i rizz the nearest enemy and bada bing bata boom

[cold yacht]

So what did the old abilities do?

[zenith zealot]

just gotta git gud with pre-charging headburst

[spice veldt]

you had brain rupture and venting shriek only

[mint pivot]

But i am idiot that spends all my stamina sprinting around and then blocking with peril because i dont know any other way 😄

[spice veldt]

no smite, assail, telekine shield, or scrier's gaze

[mint pivot]

What abilities? 😄

[zenith zealot]

also, i still feel like pre-charging in modern patch is slower than charging it directly

[mint pivot]

It was literally brainburst and thats it

[zenith zealot]

it'd be my one complaint

[unkempt light]

I'm not too fussed when I'm running my Psyker. Generating/Quelling Peril is all part of the Toughness generation machine.

And I try not to shoot BB'ed mobs as Vet, but sometimes my reflexes act before I can think

[spice veldt]

our old feat tree was a 3x6 thingy, where we had 6 columns of 3 mutually-exclusive selections

[sonic summit]

the key is to learn to slide, uses a lot less stamina

[cold yacht]

What about the other classes surely they weren’t as fully kitted out as they are now right?

[half iron]

i’m only focused on jumpscaring heretics like in five night freddy

[cold yacht]

Right?

[mint pivot]

My only braincell is going "shift is for speed, keep it pressed down"

[zenith zealot]

vet was one of the most op class due to one weapon

powersword

new powersword with t4 power cycler = old power sword with no blessings

[cold yacht]

I’m so glad I only got into the game after the overhaul

[unkempt light]

T4 Power Cycler just gives back the old number of Charged Hits that OG Power Sword had

[spice veldt]

well, vet was op for a variety of reasons

[half iron]

old brain burst was also good because you could still inspect your hands

[zenith zealot]

powersword is a huge reason for that imo

but yea

[spice veldt]

bangers such as 75% toughness DR

[unkempt light]

That, and the other Classes didn't get the stuff they do now after the Talent Tree Rework

[zenith zealot]

yea, during volley fire (now called executioner stance), u can get like, 50% extra toughness dr

if u take that modifier in the talent tree

[half iron]

i wouldn’t play zealot as much if they didn’t give me throwing knives

[zenith zealot]

demolition team's 5% grenade regain applies to all teammates

[spice veldt]

unwavering focus was revamped into iron will yeah

[zenith zealot]

that was fun, ngl

i wish all teammates could still get free grenades, like i dont care if they nerf it to 1%, give me back free grenades for team

[spice veldt]

bolter-pswording my way through the difficulty

[cold yacht]

I do have another question if you could rework one of the abilities again which one and why?

[spice veldt]

the days of 0 ammo picked up in monstrosity maelstroms

[plucky flax]

When I have to clutch I wish had grenade.

Old power sword with 75% power from slaughterer

[spice veldt]

scrier's is what i bet a lot of people will say, and smite as well

[plucky flax]

[zenith zealot]

warp charge is a keystone not ability, but i'd wanna rework it, forcing me to lose my charges whenever i use ability for cd is not what i want

[half iron]

omg so true
but throwing knife is cute

[zenith zealot]

whole point of scrier is for gun psyker most of the time, i think its fine

[spice veldt]

i dislike smite's design, and scrier's gaze is fairly niche in terms of the benefit that it offers (unless they decide to nerf the crit talents by reducing their uptime)

[zenith zealot]

i call it butterknives

[cold yacht]

Huh why smite? Feels fine to me

[plucky flax]

Old vet was too op it melted darcy brains and tricked them into thinking pre 13 vet was worst class

[spice veldt]

though it only benefits a certain portion of guns disproportionately well

[zenith zealot]

yea mostly for fast shooting weapons

stares at columnus infantry

[zenith zealot]

i swear to god, smite is what old surge should've been

[spice veldt]

a blitz where you make the enemy do nothing and where you yourself do nothing is just not compelling design to me

to me, smite needs a damage focus of some sort

[west galleon]

I was wondering why my dodges felt so lackluster suddenly

[spice veldt]

a lightning punch on the LMB, and a weaker but more mobile CC option on the RMB

that's the change I would personally make

[zenith zealot]

i did a suggestion once, but allowing smite to deal more dmg when its less enemies, and less dmg when its more enemies

[summer prairie]

smite is super good right now, whether compelling to use or not

[spice veldt]

it's good but I dislike its design

[unkempt light]

Force Swords have 5 Dodges, so just shy of the Sapper Shovel's 6 Dodges (and just as much as the Catachan Knife), but yeah

[cold yacht]

Ah ok for me smite feels more like a support ability use it to help your team avoid being overwhelmed by a horde

[spice veldt]

CC where you make the enemies do nothing is just quite terrible to me, and I already dislike zealot's stumm nades for that reason

I also dislike the majority of stagger weapons

[zenith zealot]

shxt cant just be all dmg u know

[spice veldt]

I'm fine with CC

just that it shouldn't flat out make an enemy be unable to do anything

can't move, can't attack

[zenith zealot]

well that much is true, but for it to be effective in the first place, u need a choke point

[spice veldt]

and shouldn't have as much uptime as it currently does

[zenith zealot]

and its not like people actually can power thro high difficulties just with smite

[spice veldt]

the uptime is my main gripe about it

making enemies do nothing will exist in some form or another for variety and whatnot

but they really should clamp the uptime on that stuff harder

[zenith zealot]

idk what uptime u see in smite, but unless u bring warp charges with peril reduction, shxt doesnt have much uptime

and if they bring empowered psyonic, then its more dmg, which is what u wnat

[spice veldt]

it has infinite uses and the uptime on it is indeed quite good even in bursts

[cold yacht]

At low levels smite can be used for what feels like 3 seconds

[spice veldt]

and smite even has a safety mechanism built in for maximum brain off

[plucky flax]

Smite is kinda cute.

[cold yacht]

I thought that was pre patch assail

[spice veldt]

that too

I dislike all of psyker's blitzes in one way or another

[zenith zealot]

2 things with that, if u stop it manually, u can small push at the end

u let it end on its own, it does nothing

[vapid lichen]

smite:

[zenith zealot]

well not 2 things, 1 thing sry

[cold yacht]

I’m assuming brain burst is too limited compared to the other 2?

[zenith zealot]

i still like brainburst with empowered

[spice veldt]

the push is neat yeah when players know about it

pub smiters just sending it to 100% 🥲

[zenith zealot]

leave the shxt players out of it, let them be shxt

also i thought u wanted less uptime

no push = less stun

[spice veldt]

less uptime on the stun

[vapid lichen]

they could probably just increase the peril gen on smite

[spice veldt]

pushes, I'm fine with

[zenith zealot]

its already increased no?

[spice veldt]

because with pushes, they can always code in stagger resistance/immunity and whatnot

[zenith zealot]

like smite itself, is just shxt

literally

its only good when u throw other stuff into the mix

[vapid lichen]

you're allowed to say shit on the internet

[cold yacht]

Like teammates

[zenith zealot]

teammates, venting shriek, warp charges, empowered psyonics

namely these

[spice veldt]

I'd just cap the CC in some way that doesn't involve peril
less targets, narrower cone, shorter range, etc. with a shorter cast/etc.

stuff that incentivizes quickswapping and using your other weapons

[cold yacht]

Using smite solo is a bad combo unless your only using it on the squishy boys

[vapid lichen]

slower jumps...?

idk lol

[zenith zealot]

left click slower spread, less targets, so slower

[spice veldt]

i really want Smite to be a melee blitz

[cold yacht]

Ehhhhh

[plucky flax]

I attempted silo cluster nurgle blessed earlier.

[zenith zealot]

psyker as a melee is unbecoming but could be interesting

[vapid lichen]

they could make the first couple jumps faster but any more than that slower

[zenith zealot]

but then they'd probably make it extremely strong

[plucky flax]

That map is impossible in solo queue with the green bois

Green muties and green dogs

[spice veldt]

and with melee, you can give it some certain strengths for the price of having to be up close

risk-reward type of stuff

[cold yacht]

I think psykers should stick with the back line

[spice veldt]

i don't like that type of role-conformity based on classes

one of the better playstyles patch 12 was melee psyker

[cold yacht]

Leave the upclose stuff to the zealots and ogryns

[spice veldt]

and we have the same dodge stats as zealots, so we're not going to be as terrible as it seems

[vapid lichen]

smite being a melee blitz would make toughness regen in melee way better

shocking grasp type beat

[spice veldt]

if smite had more of a focus on melee and snappiness, that would give some safety in melee and preventing you from being caught without the gameplay being reduced to "hold RMB + LMB"

[cold yacht]

Don’t we also have like low health and toughness? Or is that just because I have bad relics

[half iron]

i think i should max out wounds and be a warp bomb. i will cook however i want‼️‼️💯💯

[zenith zealot]

nope, that's us

[plucky flax]

Give me back patch 13 smite
https://youtu.be/7fgebio7n_w?si=fO2igzgZXdo2ZSw2

[zenith zealot]

but currently veteran has the lowest survivability

[vapid lichen]

i want to use smite left click to touch a guy and fucking explode him

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[zenith zealot]

that'd just be brainburst but melee

[vapid lichen]

yeah and

[half iron]

let’s goooo!

[spice veldt]

all single-target weapons are just brainburst

[vapid lichen]

at least it wouldn't be as slow and would help regen toughness in melee

[cold yacht]

I will take partial blame for that survivability as I charge into groups of enemies when I hear the cadian voice of command

[vapid lichen]

since we need warp/peril so much for toughness

even gunker needs to just dodge and spam assail for a fast refill

punching a guy with a fistful of lightning sounds sick

[zenith zealot]

it'd probably be high peril cost and single target use if we go by your description

also cant forget about charge rate

which we can go with brainburst as the base line

so that would mean u'd generate toughness, but then u'd need to quell, avoid shxt, and redo it again

[spice veldt]

brainburst as the base line is horrible

2 seconds

[zenith zealot]

on a slow speed

[cold yacht]

I want more levels so I can have more skill points

[vapid lichen]

completely unusable in melee

[zenith zealot]

against 1 target

exactly

[vapid lichen]

it would have to be instant

[zenith zealot]

nothing's gonna be instant in this shxt

[spice veldt]

it should be snappy and it should be balanced against the fact that you're in melee
and i'd just balance the damage/CC instead

[zenith zealot]

u think fatshark gon let people quell 1 peril and instantly use that shxt again to one shot something?

[vapid lichen]

what if smite could infuse your weapon and cause lightning to jump to enemies when you attack or something

[spice veldt]

yes, which is why I would balance the damage instead

[zenith zealot]

then there'd be no point

u want high dmg

[spice veldt]

I'm not going to give smite a damage-focus anyways

[glossy ember]

the enemies just be vibing

[zenith zealot]

else might as well use a dueling sword to kill crushers

way faster

no need to quell too

[vapid lichen]

lightning fists....

[spice veldt]

it's not just for DPS but also for a mild amount of CC

a lightning punch that you can throw out on a quickie

or whatever the RMB has

[zenith zealot]

wouldnt surge just be better since u can do it at a distance and hit 2 people?

[spice veldt]

good thing they're on different slots

[zenith zealot]

and also quell speed + warp resistance

[spice veldt]

and that they don't strictly overlap

[cold yacht]

Personally I would rework brain burst like this

Left click: basic brain burst but shorter charge time regardless of enemy type
Right click: aoe Brainburst with a longer charge time but takes out max of 3-5 enemies depending on how long the charge would be made

[spice veldt]

and I'd make smite's RMB a bit more interesting than what we currently have

[vapid lichen]

actually

you know the thammer special

that

[zenith zealot]

why would u sacrifice range double one shot for single one shot with mediocer cc and lesser quell speed and more peril cost

[vapid lichen]

or uhhh crusher special

[spice veldt]

because you don't need to sacrifice it?

and you can take whatever works for your builds and especially since they're on different slots?

I don't get why you're being so obtuse about this

[cold yacht]

You just wanna cast fist

https://tenor.com/view/tts-i-cast-fist-gif-18135032

[vapid lichen]

left click stuns one guy
right click has to be charged but stuns in an area i like the sound of that

[zenith zealot]

that's, literally smite now

except its left click can spread slowly

[vapid lichen]

okay but it's Cooler

[spice veldt]

my idea for the RMB would be a shorter range and a quicker stun

[zenith zealot]

just cuz u're in melee?

[vapid lichen]

yes

[spice veldt]

more snappy, more "I can swap off and do something else"

[zenith zealot]

then just run up to them with current smite

[spice veldt]

though being able to just QQ and spam it would be problematic design

[vapid lichen]

it's not as satisfying

and it's too easily interrupted

[zenith zealot]

go hit them with dueling sword special attack

melee quick stun with no interruptions and no peril cost

[vapid lichen]

i will
after i smite

[spice veldt]

you sure love your status quos huh

[cold yacht]

Psyker was made for the back line adding a melee style blitz would be contradictory

[zenith zealot]

i just think u're overlapping some stuff that already exists

[spice veldt]

some overlap is going to happen

[vapid lichen]

brain blitz is the longest range one and assail is the midrange one

[spice veldt]

and like, the overlap in this case is "this thing has some form of stagger"

[vapid lichen]

i think it's okay to have a close range one too

[spice veldt]

what about the AoE/# of enemies affected? time to get this stagger tool off?

damage dealt by this stagger tool?

[zenith zealot]

smite is pretty close range in my book

u just want it to be completely melee

[spice veldt]

i'd make it as short as 2-4m

[vapid lichen]

to me, it doesn't necessarily have to do something completely new or not have any overlap
it's just gotta be cool as fuck and fun to use

[spice veldt]

and yet we have good dodge stats

like, we don't really need to go hard into melee like zealot does

[zenith zealot]

that's to kite

that's the whole point

u dodge backwards

[cold yacht]

You might as well just be using your sword so what would be the point

[spice veldt]

but I don't see the need to overly prevent ourselves from meleeing

[zenith zealot]

no u dont, but i dont see the need to overly have ourselves meleeing

[spice veldt]

that's still a good distance, and melee doesn't have great AoE stuns for anything that's not a trash mob

[cold yacht]

Smack em in the head

[spice veldt]

you don't have to be overly meleeing though

[zenith zealot]

get a devil claw

[spice veldt]

you can just

use your staff

being up close doesn't prevent you from using your staff

[zenith zealot]

then there'd be no point to that ability

[spice veldt]

the stun/AoE

[cold yacht]

It’s not a smart move to keep using a staff way up close

[spice veldt]

we are looping back to things that I've already said

[vapid lichen]

i wanna bonk a circle in front of me by slamming it with lightning

[spice veldt]

and it's on a different slot besides your staff

you do understand that staffs and blitzes occupy different slots

[zenith zealot]

trauma

[spice veldt]

what if you're not running a staff with particularly amazing group stagger

[vapid lichen]

"just use something else" what if i don't want to

[zenith zealot]

venting shriek, range stagger

[half iron]

i look at the heretics with my tertium rizz

[zenith zealot]

then suck at that particular thing

[spice veldt]

and what if you're not running venting shriek...?

like, there's a lot of stuff that already has some overlap

[cold yacht]

Move back and pull your melee

[spice veldt]

i don't get why you're particularly against it in this specific case

[zenith zealot]

u're trying to make this so specific

[spice veldt]

because you're making me be specific!?!?!?

you're attempting to point out flaws

[vapid lichen]

i want to move at a morbillion movespeed with mettle, scrier's, and DD and fucking dash in and slam an area with lightning and go crazy

[spice veldt]

and I'm defending it and adding on more detail

of course I'm being fucking specific because you sure like pointing out apparent holes into my ideas

you can't just provoke a response and complain that I'm responding

[zenith zealot]

basically u want voice of command on psyker blitz

[vapid lichen]

have you never met someone saying "this would be cool" or "i would like if this happened" without going "ermmm actually why don't you just do this [thing that already exists but doesn't actually fit the idea in question]"

[zenith zealot]

like u can already do all these things, just without this blitz u're talking about

[spice veldt]

i mean we're not complaining that we can't do it right now

[quasi junco]

lol first game of the day, histg

[spice veldt]

and I'm specifically talking about moving away from the current nature of smite

[vapid lichen]

voc doesnt do any damage and doesn't have sweet lightning effects

[spice veldt]

i.e., less of the brainless stagger for the mechanical effort that you put in that we currently have

shorter range and slightly more risk

[cold yacht]

It does however have some of the best voice lines

[spice veldt]

more snappy and less of a "hold RMB + LMB" sort of deal

[vapid lichen]

smite is so easy to use brainlessly

[zenith zealot]

idk what kinda players u play with, but i enjoy smiting with venting shriek and annihilating hordes with that combo

go higher difficulties to use smite

[cold yacht]

Then you explode cause you weren’t paying attention

[quasi junco]

seems slow and inefficient

[spice veldt]

well I'm catering to my own tastes

and I'm well into playing higher difficulties

[zenith zealot]

especially those with nurgle's blessing

[vapid lichen]

nah smite starts auto quelling when you hit 100

[spice veldt]

given that I have 2k hours

[plucky flax]

Where are the plasteels

[vapid lichen]

you cant even blow yourself up automatically by holding down the button

[half iron]

you explode. i don’t. i will never explode as long as there is plasteel to be collected

[vapid lichen]

it's that easy

[quasi junco]

right here 😛

[zenith zealot]

my friend has 70k, this isnt nearly enough to upset me

tho i am still upset at his 70k and my 600

[vapid lichen]

i have 5 plasteel

[quasi junco]

im saving mine for all the new staves we are getting with update pt 2

[zenith zealot]

are we getting staves?

[patent hatch]

We aren’t*

[spice veldt]

the revolver staff and the laspistol staff

[zenith zealot]

curse ye, i got excited

[vapid lichen]

i made a really good ogryn shield earlier though so that was nice

[quasi junco]

im hopeful chain axes won't suck, I might take one over deimos on my purg build

[zenith zealot]

if the old chainaxe is anything to go with, it sucks

[plucky flax]

Sub 700 plasteels game hurts me emotionally

[quasi junco]

might get buffed

[plucky flax]

[zenith zealot]

hopefully

[quasi junco]

so many weapons were useless prepatch 13 that are great now

chain axes might get love

[zenith zealot]

only reason columnus isnt useful is cuz of ammo reserves

[patent hatch]

Do you also have a massive plasteel deficit

[vapid lichen]

i have 4000 diamantine and no plasteel :/

[patent hatch]

Same lmao

[zenith zealot]

20k..

like give diamantine some use already

the pile still grows

i just call them old newspaper now

they pile up faster than u can get rid of, and u cant find any use for them

all that's left is for the devs to give u a way to recycle them into plasteel, and diamantine would officially earn that name

[plucky flax]

I have like 90k diamantine and 15k plasteels.

[patent hatch]

Dam that’s sad

[kindred delta]

Here’s hoping the new laspistol doesn’t totally suck

[patent hatch]

I just spent 5k getting a Traumua staff lmao

As in plasteel

[spice veldt]

seems like a heavier variant to me so a QoL improvement over the current one for the clicking needed if nothing else

[coarse tartan]

as a new/returning player the crafting system is so frustrating

do a 30 min mission so you can pull the lever on a slot machine twice

yay

[patent hatch]

It’s a massive upgrade from what it was tbh

[untold niche]

hey guys, does the take peril instead of damage talent benefit from reduce peril gen nodes?

[zenith zealot]

from what i heard, no

i reread the book of psykers

[zenith zealot]

yes it does affect it

also its take peril instead of stamina on block

[idle bay]

Game feels like it can use 5 more character levels and 5 more skillpoints. But at same time feels like it's ok as is it is. Like two realities collided.

[plucky flax]

Just hack the game.

Get all nodes.

[idle bay]

99% of things are server-side 🙂 And i lack skills to do so

[plucky flax]

I bet some guy at fs do it on his account.

Just to meme on everyone.

[untold niche]

thank you mr harby

[idle bay]

They playtest on Malice with all skill nodes build 🙂

[plucky flax]

I saw their account they had like over 1 Mil plasteels.

[untold niche]

mr selfish, i take this node, but i never "use" use it
do you use it?

[plucky flax]

That's why crafting is fine for them.

[idle bay]

They have "generate item" menu

[plucky flax]

It's always handy when you need it. Like ressing and clutching.

[idle bay]

And don't know that crafting exists

[plucky flax]

I always take kinetic deflection.

[untold niche]

oh yeah rezz count as block if u get hit

do you manually block attacks?

or only sometime

[plucky flax]

Not really but when it's a mutie or doggy coming, I'd block to save my dodge for them.

[untold niche]

that pretty smart

[idle bay]

@plucky flax seems to always following the rule: Never stop moving.

[plucky flax]

Also let you push more.

[orchid nest]

nice for blocking bosses and abusing push/attacks on some weapons

[plucky flax]

Me in next video. Only standing still when I attack.

[untold niche]

you mean like if you PA, the short momment you "block" you can get hit right

those times

oh ya mr selfish, someone else was a blaze trauma main and he said staff don't need 80% damage

he said he talked to you

but i forgot his username

[idle bay]

But you don't need to stop to attack 🙂 Everything can be used in motion

[zenith zealot]

i take kinetic deflection in case an idiot triggers a demonhost, and i become the next target

[untold niche]

how long can you block the DH tho

:v

[plucky flax]

You don't need but it's always good to have damage.

[zenith zealot]

long enough for people to kill it

[patent hatch]

.> yay or nay

wait wrong one

[orchid nest]

More that stamina isn't as much of a concern to you so you can use it push attacking. you won't be caught unable to block due to stam during it since you will go to peril first @untold niche

[zenith zealot]

pair it with a force sword with deflection

[plucky flax]

Say an elite has 95% hp left. A high damage one would kill it, a low one would not.

[untold niche]

but but you said you need the 80% damage for ur trauma build
how can you lie to me like this

[plucky flax]

It matters not only for just breakpoint but for all situations.

[patent hatch]

This one!

[manic halo]

might as well

have a go

[zenith zealot]

and quell while dodging or use venting shriek, can tank it pretty long

[untold niche]

i should practice that

block

bosses

[plucky flax]

The breakpoint for 1 shot dreg bruiser is possibly around 75 or 76.

[zenith zealot]

the class that can block 2nd longest is the psyker

right below ogryn with slab shield

[plucky flax]

So I would not use one without at least 78 charge rate and that much damage.

[untold niche]

the other guy said his was 70, and he could 1 hit kill bruiser

thanks for hint

[plucky flax]

Maybe it's lower. But a 66% damage one can't.

[untold niche]

when i get bored when i can't get the blessing of voidstrike staff maybe i try trauma build

[plucky flax]

Pls see here
#psyker-class message

[orchid nest]

like for example combat knife, the push attacks are really good and psyker can abuse them a lot more due to not getting punished because of kinetic deflection and superior stam regen delay

[untold niche]

could be i rmb wrong, and he meant scab bruiser takes 70

[patent hatch]

Dump stat for traumua?

[zenith zealot]

warp resistance maybe

[plucky flax]

Warp resistance can be lowest

[zenith zealot]

u can at least build up peril fast to benefit off blessings and warp rider on talent tree

[patent hatch]

fuck yeah we balling

[plucky flax]

Prepare for disappointment

[zenith zealot]

rolling now?

cant wait

[zenith zealot]

ok that's actually really good i think

besides the blessings

[patent hatch]

Well

The perks are

eh

[zenith zealot]

i mean, what perk would u ideally want

[patent hatch]

I need my crit+maniac

[plucky flax]

Flak is good

[zenith zealot]

ah i see

yea flak is good

[plucky flax]

You want crit chance flak

I'd change both blessings.

[zenith zealot]

same

[patent hatch]

oh defo

[plucky flax]

Miss out on crit chance but it's okie

[zenith zealot]

its only 5%, well i say only, but we all know its not "only"

[plucky flax]

20 vs 25% is 1 in 5 vs 1 in 4

[patent hatch]

Well here's my opyions

[idle bay]

@plucky flax i noticed that my survivability skyrocketed when i started acting like there always random trash mob spawned rtight behind my back and it's about to backstab me. And thing is - it's most often IS than it's not 🙂

[patent hatch]

Which one we thinking

[zenith zealot]

eh...

[plucky flax]

Like just rear check often?

[patent hatch]

tbh I am leaning hard right

[zenith zealot]

i would take the new one

[patent hatch]

just cause blast and charge

[idle bay]

That and it's dodging just in case without looking and audio cues and hearing "swoosh" after

[zenith zealot]

i'd take it cuz that 10% weakspot dmg would be outta my face

that's literally 25 extra power that doesnt do anything

[patent hatch]

lmao Im out of ordo dockets

[zenith zealot]

sell some trash weapons

that u got from rolling

[plucky flax]

Random dodger

[patent hatch]

;-;

[plucky flax]

I don't think I do that

[zenith zealot]

i do that

[patent hatch]

well lets go burn some bitches

[idle bay]

I'm using dodge as mobility scooter ... and oten randomly avoid some attacks. So it's a win-win

[zenith zealot]

especially when its a trapper sound effect

[fluid knot]

Hear trapper = dodge, even if its 20m away

Fuck takin that risk

[idle bay]

Well you highly invested in awareness so you don't need random dodges 🙂

[zenith zealot]

its not random dodging if u hear the sound effect

its called paranoia

[zenith zealot]

yes

[plucky flax]

I actually do spin around while charging my staff sometimes

[idle bay]

And i'm playing like : Ok i'm dealing with those elites/spacials whiel keeping eye on what's going on. Back checked 1 sewconds ago. Smallest-bitch-in-world-spawn director should have spawned dreg bruiser behind me - time to dodge. "Swoosh"

[plucky flax]

Just to check for disabler

[idle bay]

I'm spend most of the time as rear-guard for the team for back spawns and disablers from the back 🙂

[zenith zealot]

i should probs get a new trauma too

[idle bay]

Damit i'm typing like i'm having a stroke... need to slow down.

[zenith zealot]

i can obviously change some stuff to make it good

like warp nexus + 5% crit chance

but not having a t4 secondary blessing, feelsbadman

[idle bay]

So sad that local delivery services offer like hundreds varieties of shawarma and ZERO choices for burritos. Only some burrito barely-look-a-like-culinary-vandalism versions.

[plucky flax]

Infested why tho?

You already 1 shot poxwalkers.

[zenith zealot]

this was before i actually got a brain

[plucky flax]

[zenith zealot]

stuff on the outer edge dont get one shot, my dumbass back then was like, lets get infested

i WaNt tO kILl aLl tHe PoxWaLkERs sO NpCs PraiSe me

my newer stuff dont have any infested

[idle bay]

Having head brain is overrated. Spinal brain is enough 🙂

[zenith zealot]

except my illisi

but that's just cuz my blessings were ass

[idle bay]

I'm choosing next weapon to blow my 2-weeks worth of materials to get a pile of bricks.

I'm still not 100% satisfied with my Nomanus and still just get a very moderate Claw MK IV

[half iron]

game gave me cliffhanger during a secondary smite

i’m moving like oppenheimer

[zenith zealot]

behold, my flaming horde clear sword

[idle bay]

it's a definition of Overkill

[zenith zealot]

yep

but well, its designed for horde clear, so i'll let it horde clear

i remember one of the blessings was bloodthristy, idk the other one

[idle bay]

I decided to sit on my materials until next year.

Don't understand me wrong - i'm quite sure there will be NO changes to crafting. But there might be juicy new weapon to brick 🙂

[zenith zealot]

i still actively grind and bless

there is, but doesnt hurt to earn the blessings u need for those first

unless u already have them

[idle bay]

And will have enough mats to out do a daily production rate of Brick factory

[zenith zealot]

behold, my sharp n pointy force field generator

needless to say its more of a meme weapon

[severe folio]

nomanus first

[severe folio]

vibranium sword

[zenith zealot]

true

i do run kinetic deflection with that sword

so i gain peril, and that in-turn procs unstable power

[severe folio]

true black panther

[zenith zealot]

time to make my psyker blak

[severe folio]

uncanny would prob be better than unstable power though

[zenith zealot]

for sure

[severe folio]

force sword should have warp nexus

[zenith zealot]

i totally agree

and guns should get run n gun

i'd like to go zoomies with my columnus as gun psyker

also anyone notice the funny staggers with deimos heavy stab?

[idle bay]

Though it's really tricky to get better tha this one

Well i have this poor excuse for weapon base
Lets brick it!

[zenith zealot]

that dmg is horrendous

[idle bay]

That makes it perfect brick candidate 🙂

[zenith zealot]

also warp resist too high for my taste

on both staves

[idle bay]

Well...

Perks are perfect for me.
Both blessing to t4.

[zenith zealot]

well, it's not bad

[idle bay]

"Will-do" roll

[zenith zealot]

would prefer crit dmg perk over unyielding

[idle bay]

I like to fry bosses

also weakspot spam of LMB

[zenith zealot]

that dmg aint nothing

[zenith zealot]

enjoy your new staves

[idle bay]

One to the right is my current one

[zenith zealot]

ofc it is, i mean why would u ever use the one on the left

[idle bay]

As i said it's tricky to get better nomanus than i currently have 🙂

[zenith zealot]

its not even that its tricky

u just dont ever use the one on the left

[idle bay]

Also tricky to get a better DCLaw IV than this one

Oops wrong one

Decent anti-horde one

3 out of 4.

[zenith zealot]

u might consider mine better

just might

[idle bay]

I like how goofy and creepy this mask looks

[patent hatch]

honestly I prefer a low warp res

Keep that warp rider going

[zenith zealot]

exactly

[west galleon]

alright after trying it I must say I really dislike disrupt destiny, even with the extension I can hardly make use of all my stacks before they run out

[zenith zealot]

u dont use a staff, u are the staff

at least tht's what it looks like to me

a staff-head

[untold niche]

how come
always things to shoot

[west galleon]

i mean i went into auric and still didnt feel it

[untold niche]

im leveling psyker atm, and i can already feel it on malice
the sad part is when the director gives break and no enemies nearby, stacks reset
but beyond that its been alot of help.

Though it does mess up with target prior

[west galleon]

I mean I can absolutely see the use, but I dont feel like having this additional micro management while being swarmed

[old oyster]

https://tenor.com/view/helghast-playstation-killzone-gif-26657670

[west galleon]

meanwhile my warp charges are way easier to manage

[untold niche]

that is true but mah damage

[west galleon]

I'd rather have less bonus damage than 0 because i lost the stacks

[old oyster]

me sees glowing eyes in my head - Killzone time

[untold niche]

i took the 2x stacks

[west galleon]

funnily enough the perk feels like old warp charges

[untold niche]

from weajsoits kill

[west galleon]

my playstyle is also a hindrance I figure

25 meter to get marked enemies

but I blast everything with voidstrike beforehand

[untold niche]

tbh 25 meter quite far
but maybe i sould try ws too :v

but mah breakpoints and mah damage ;-;

i feel like i wouldnt keep trying to find that blue guy if i went warp siphom

[west galleon]

and honestly I cant afford to leave enemies alive to get closer, I dont want to just assume that the team knows what I am doing

[untold niche]

on a crit hit, with surge
how many times you need to shoot the crusher?

2?

[west galleon]

you mean the perk surge or the surge staff?

[untold niche]

surgep erk

[zenith zealot]

that's the issue, u do it with guns

[west galleon]

but muh warp rider

[untold niche]

plos answerrr

[zenith zealot]

take assail

[west galleon]

maybe? best case with full buffs is 2 i think

ok sry but fuck no

[zenith zealot]

everytime your peril drops, launch 1 assail and switch back to gun

[west galleon]

assail looks cool but fuck that

[zenith zealot]

keep it up

[west galleon]

I hate that shit

[untold niche]

heh heh assail for skrub

[west galleon]

its so annyoing

[zenith zealot]

not saying use it, just saying its an easy way to keep peril up for warp rider

[west galleon]

every assail psyker in damnation+ gets side eyes

[quasi junco]

yep lol, unless its a gunker

then I understand

[untold niche]

i mean not hard to maintain 80% peril with void staff anyway :v

[zenith zealot]

if u use void staff, u get rid of all your potential defy destiny marks before they get marked

ofc u aint gonna get shxt

might as well use warp charges

[west galleon]

also my perks (voidstrike) are always warp flurry

[untold niche]

what do you mean :v

[west galleon]

and then either transfer peril or warp nexus

[untold niche]

is that tone one that give crit chance based on peril?

[quasi junco]

Edging peril with Critstrike build is essential, too bad I'm dumb and blow myself up at least once each mission

[west galleon]

warp flurry is faster charge

[quasi junco]

use nexus surge, why would you not use surge on a critstrike build

[west galleon]

the other is peril quell on weakspot

[untold niche]

shoot once, quell 2 ticks back to 80
atm i need to quell 3 ticks to under 80

[west galleon]

personal preference

[quasi junco]

The beauty of critstrike build is you don't have to fully charge shots unless its a crusher

I spend half my time half charging or 3/4 charging

[west galleon]

thats why i take flurry

[quasi junco]

then with true aim and surge, I can 1 tap crushers on weakspot

flurry isn't needed since you shoudnt be charging to full anyway

[west galleon]

at one point I can just laser rmb

i mean

different playstyles and stuff you know?

I dont want to play after some guide

also it works perfectly

[quasi junco]

i made my own build

[west galleon]

it works so well I feel like that build is a crutch

(my build)

[quasi junco]

it works perfectly..... doesn't use surge on critstrike LOL

[west galleon]

ok nerd

are we at that point

[untold niche]

What does true aim do again

[quasi junco]

5 WS hits lead to a 100% crit

[untold niche]

Oh that's the skill

[untold niche]

I think you can build into non crit, but this one not that good because like you can always just edge at 80%
Quelling at 80 is faster than say 20.

[quasi junco]

True aim / nexus surge critstrike build

[west galleon]

ye the transfer one is a relic from before the update

[untold niche]

I support building towards playstyle :v

[quasi junco]

Same build, edged out a gunker

[west galleon]

posting post game stats ew

ok i thought you were better than that

imma head out, the unwashed smell is gross

gl friends!

[quasi junco]

I'm trying to bring data, you just say shit like 'my build is perfect'

[west galleon]

also it works perfectly

but ok

sry to trigger you with some off hand sentence

byebye friendo

[quasi junco]

keep thinking mediocrity is perfection

[plucky flax]

Play what you want.

[quasi junco]

Here is the build for those that are curious https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ac2b820-8af9-4609-af57-8a650ad43fc4/critstrike

[untold niche]

stop that dood
he doesn't need to be the top gamer
as long as he is happy dats fine
hes not advocating for it (his build) either

@plucky flax mr selfish
if melee enemy get suppressed, will they cower like ranged enemies?

[plucky flax]

Not everyone is top 1% god tier psyker like me.

Yeah.

They also have cower animation.

[untold niche]

is there like a secret bar like stagger before they go into cower

or suppresion = cower

[plucky flax]

Each enemy have a different stagger value.

[idle bay]

I'm totaly agree with this statementy. But if someone plays vet without ammo regen aura and i play ogryn i will severely ans silently judge than vet whole game to the point of barely holding myself from barrel accident

[plucky flax]

I don't think there's any mod that show when they'll be suppressed.

Only like the stagger value when they are staggered.

Via debuff indicator.

[untold niche]

was wondering if when this procs, melee enemy instantly cower?
at least for trash

[quasi junco]

The whole calling the build perfect just got to me. Never posted it.
People who use those terms generally have some Dunning Krueger.
I’ll drop it.

[plucky flax]

Just say 'sry' and pretend you mean it.

Yeah it amplified the suppress value.

But tbh most range weapon have big suppress already.

Like surge actually have pretty good suppress on right click.

[untold niche]

as in lets say i kill 1 guy close range
then the other guy standing next to him, instant cower

Im thinking of a comfort build with voidstrike where i run that and warp flurry where i never have to take melee out

[idle bay]

I'm too good with barrel accident - i can feel a perfect timing to do them...

[plucky flax]

But yeah it might increase the radius to much bigger.

Play trauma and never touch melee.

Just blast everything boom boom boom

[untold niche]

no but i want to aim :p

[untold niche]

ANSWER THIS SELFISH

[idle bay]

Aiming with Trauma may cause a nerve damage and nerve tick after prolonged use

[untold niche]

isnt that like an aoe circle on the floor

why hard to aim

[untold niche]

so sorry, answer directly

[idle bay]

If aim close - no issue - is aim further than arms reach it's clunky and unnerving

[untold niche]

i know you answered >.>

[plucky flax]

T_T

[untold niche]

i love u

[plucky flax]

Well what staff you want with this?

[untold niche]

void

[plucky flax]

Keep in mind it's close range kill.

And currently close range is within 8m.

[untold niche]

how far is that

[plucky flax]

So it's pretty smol.

[steel sluice]

How’s the prospect of using guns on psyker right now?

[untold niche]

yeh okeh, but will it make trash instat cower

dats ma question

cause like

imagine

i don't have to swap to melee

goddam

pew pew pew

like stormtrooper

[plucky flax]

No. Xd

[untold niche]

NO?

that blessing is useless

determined by me.

[plucky flax]

Yeah I'm afraid so.

Seems to only work on range chaffs.

[hearty oak]

Disgustingly good. Almost meta

[plucky flax]

Seems melee chaffs (dreg bruiser and scab bruiser) have pretty high suppress value to get to.

[untold niche]

:v thats so sad.

[steel sluice]

What’s the choice picks? I assume revolver is one of them but curious on what else is good

[hearty oak]

Mk 5 colum, revolver, mk1 if you're strange enough

[untold niche]

what about flak and kant

r those gud

[hearty oak]

laspistol is good. And thats the only good laser gun to use

[severe folio]

why its dmg so low

[hearty oak]

Its high speed or low drag. those are your options for gunker

[steel sluice]

Some vets exist that swear by the Kant lasgun IF you have an autoclicker

[quasi junco]

lol what’s an auto clicker?

[steel sluice]

They claim it turns it into a beefed up recon las

[untold niche]

sorry i meant, what about vraks*

[idle bay]

Bacuse it's the way of the game to mock me 🙂

[steel sluice]

Program that clicks for you

[severe folio]

i think the previous one is better

[hearty oak]

Would want something like this

[untold niche]

like cause the weapon need to manually click to keep shooting
so its sort of like a macro, hold down button then it manually clck many time for u

nights what about vrak

vraks3

[hearty oak]

Never given it a try. Some people hate the two-fire burst on it

[steel sluice]

I want that for my vet too lol

[quasi junco]

Oh my Logitech software could prolly do that

[untold niche]

ya, theres a mod as well

[hearty oak]

My psyker build is made for high speed and crit chainign for invincibilty

*semi invincibilty

[untold niche]

@plucky flax wont you get bored of trauma build?
seem like so stronk
stronk until boring

[severe folio]

sound like right side psyker

[plucky flax]

Yeah that's why I also play surge.

But surge is bugged.

[untold niche]

the armour thingy?

[plucky flax]

Yeah.

[untold niche]

why not play voidstrike :v
have to aim like sniper using nerf gun

[plucky flax]

I do sometimes.

But for me it's not as good as trauma or surge.

[severe folio]

i switch the sound of my voidstrike with plasma gun

[steel sluice]

What would be the best skill tree for gunker play then? I spent so long in the vet dimension learning their tree so I got no idea what I’m doing here

[untold niche]

this shit is the hardest to aim (isometric view, so this guy is running diagonnaly) AND you are elevated

[severe folio]

not entirely wrong to just take everything on the right side

or look at everything at the right side