psyker-class

[vast yew]

The smite upgrade, the random point at the bottom, the fact that only 29/30 is spent

[untold widget]

Empathic evasion then

[thorn cedar]

Yeah usually EE

It's been a floating point for a while

[untold widget]

well you have 2 technically

[vast yew]

Wait you have both toughness upgrades at the top too

wtf

What ranged weapon are you running on this

[thorn cedar]

Vraks 7

[bright mica]

wsg gang

[vast yew]

Gunker with no Scriers

[supple skiff]

sciers aint it with this build

[untold widget]

you could run EE and the middle of DD if you drop the smite augment, which does nothing for you

[supple skiff]

losing all those stacks stucks lol

[vast yew]

Oh wait that’s a headhunter

[thorn cedar]

This is more a Smite build than anything.

[vast yew]

Nvm

[thorn cedar]

Smite kinda sucks is my honest opinion.

But its fun.

[vast yew]

Smite is good at stunning things

And can sorta kinda kill stuff with EP? I guess?

[untold widget]

no

but it's good at grouping things up for mulching

[thorn cedar]

Ye

[gray jetty]

Yep

[thorn cedar]

I charge out maybe 30% of my perils on a right click

[untold widget]

and it proc's true aim

[thorn cedar]

Throw things down

Kill the blue bois

[gray jetty]

Smite is pretty clutch for when the director spawns crushers and ragers on your ads

[thorn cedar]

Repeat

[vast yew]

I like it in Voidstrike builds to buy time against groups of Ragers

Not on Purgatus/Trauma builds though

[dense zinc]

Anyone here need help with the malleus monstronum penance? I got a shiny new shield that needs some wear and tear on my oggy.

[untold widget]

actually I don't like midde of DD with this build, I think I like warp expenditure better for toughness gen while smiting

so yeah, drop smite augment and take expenditure and empathic evasion and you're gucci

soul stealer is honestly not doing much either

this build is insane lol

[thorn cedar]

It actually procs way more reliabily than you expect

[untold widget]

only when smite kills something

[thorn cedar]

Perilous Combustions Soulblaze

[untold widget]

or I guess when PC does

[thorn cedar]

And yes smite as well

[gray jetty]

Do you not have force weapons?

[thorn cedar]

I kept taking and not taking it and it is honestly better than expenditure

[untold widget]

no, he's using vraks and knife

[gray jetty]

Oh I see

[thorn cedar]

Nah Combat Knife for this one

[untold widget]

well you can take both

[thorn cedar]

Just zipping around killing blue skittles

[gray jetty]

I personally don't think it's worth it

[silk hawk]

smite cant crit...

[vast yew]

He’s trying to hide the fact he’s a Psyker from the Comissars

[untold widget]

he's running knife

which can

[thorn cedar]

This is a concerted effort to make Smite work

[gray jetty]

Knife vraks

[thorn cedar]

And like. It's ok

[gray jetty]

Smite does work

[untold widget]

smite carries hard tbh

makes bad teammates into good teammates

[thorn cedar]

The gimmick of holding right click is pretty bad. It's a almost never the case that you holding that button down is doing more damage than if you were just attacking with your team.

[gray jetty]

People who say they're rather kill than cc obviously havent played auric/maelstrom where the director routinely conjures ragers and crushers through the warp

[silk hawk]

its hard to be bad at the game, when all mobs just stay here and wait for their death XD

[thorn cedar]

But it's definitely good for revives and dog saves.

[untold widget]

smite isn't for damage

[silk hawk]

but there is one "-" of the build, if u die - its probably end of the run XD

[thorn cedar]

Great for intermittent CC bursts between you also doing damage

I am very bothered that you cannot cast smite while sprint sliding

UNLESS

you swap to it midslide

[red jacinth]

got back into playing pskyer after awhile, hows this?

[thorn cedar]

For the left click specifically

Very weird thing

[untold widget]

the thing about smite is that it makes your team safe to kill stuff in tricky situations

[gray jetty]

Good

[untold widget]

like ninja crusher packs

and surprise ragers

[gray jetty]

What's the first perk and blessing

[worn cypress]

I think the problem is too many people bring smite and just smite all game w/o doing anything else

[thorn cedar]

Yes

[silk hawk]

strong antiarmor - decent antiboss, althou i like ds4 more

[worn cypress]

bc they felt that thats the best way to make themselves useful

[gray jetty]

As long as they don't die I don't mind

[worn cypress]

which is just not true

[red jacinth]

+manic and unacnny

[gray jetty]

That's usable

Yeah take that to gold

[untold widget]

what uncanny though

but yeah, that's a gold for sure

[gray jetty]

I'm not s fan of uncanny on deimos though

[vast yew]

Pretty sure that hits the breakpoint to one-shot Mutants

[untold widget]

what? why?

[vast yew]

What?

[gray jetty]

Ye

[fresh reef]

Nothing urks me more than bubble/smite users who think they're helping

[untold widget]

its literally the best blessing available

[vast yew]

Uncanny is incredible on Deimos

[thorn cedar]

For me the strat is to hold down right click until the blueboi I wanna kill is also dancing, then I throw everything out of the way and beeline at them

[vast yew]

Like SS-tier

[fresh reef]

They place exactly one half decent bubble in front of a pack of gunners all game

[gray jetty]

I think I have slaughterer and something else

[fresh reef]

And then just smite trash mobs the other 95% of the time

[untold widget]

a charged deimos weakspot hit generates 4 stacks of uncanny with the one hit

[gray jetty]

Cause it got dueling sword lights

[worn cypress]

man I'm really hating bubble too, sometimes people kinda forget how to play the game if a bubble is dropped

[gray jetty]

And can one shot mutants with a crit headshot

[worn cypress]

and they just run into it despite the very subpar position

[untold widget]

and 2 shot crushers

[thorn cedar]

Rectangle gang represent

[untold widget]

with L1H2

[vast yew]

You don’t need a crit if you build it right

[gray jetty]

But that's also cause I got voidstrike with it

Well yeah, but I rarely power the deimos

[thorn cedar]

I only use deimos special for fun

[fresh reef]

Rectangle is by far the most based psyker ability

[untold widget]

you only need to do it once really

one charge for uncanny stacks and then decimate

[red jacinth]

also another question, if the rolls are good is this worth it from brunt?

[gray jetty]

Uh

[untold widget]

I don't hate that tbh

[thorn cedar]

I love rectangle. It's perfect.

[wind halo]

Slap Warp Flurry on it

[gray jetty]

Like it's workable

[vast yew]

Not bad, though 73 damage is sadge

Good to use while waiting to get a better one

[untold widget]

could have been 72 damage and gotten that 666 charge damage

[red jacinth]

i have enough dockets to try roll a better one tbh (i think)

[feral verge]

Save plasteel and ordos for patch

[lunar hollow]

TRUE

[unkempt light]

Naw man, that's pretty good
Save it

[red jacinth]

i am no longer broke currently

[red jacinth]

eh

[thorn cedar]

My only advice regarding shields is that you should still use physical cover in the shield against shooters cause youll look like a real bonehead when the shield ends and all ten of those gunners you ignored to kill melee trash havent fogotten about you and shred you to pieces

Not that that has ever happened to me

Certainly not with my back turned

[sweet drift]

I feel so genuinely terrible and useless in melee, is there any melee weapons you guys recommend? I tried out the OG force sword and it just felt awful to me

[feral verge]

og force sword is good

but

illisi and deimos are way better

[worn cypress]

what kinda flavor of meleeing do you like

[sweet drift]

Cleave

[quasi junco]

That’s when I berate the vets on my team

[thorn cedar]

pepperoni

[sweet drift]

I like to see heads fly off

[feral verge]

this is what a peak deimos looks like. it's for deleting elites and specials

[worn cypress]

you'll probs enjoy illisi

deimos/ds4 is great for special killer with some decentish capability to hold a horde

[feral verge]

this is a decent illisi. for mulching hordes

[sweet drift]

Also idk if its just my build problem but when I was forced to deal with a horde that contained 2 berserkers I simply could not do anything, I was running around for like 3 minutes trying to dodge dogs and get distance so I can surge staff

idk, im an ogryn/zealot player so this is all weird to me atm

[sweet drift]

Is that the stabby force sword?

[worn cypress]

no the cleavey force sword

uncanny strike is p mandatory as psyker for me personally, to be able to deal with armors

[sweet drift]

Ah okay good. The deimos makes me feel physically ill to use. I hate it so bad

[worn cypress]

tbh axe or knife are solid choices too

[quasi junco]

lol?

[feral verge]

if you dont know what you're doing with deimos, i can see it being painful to use

like if you have a poorly built one, and are trying to horde clear with it

[sweet drift]

I just dont like the moveset

I dont care if it one shot every single enemy in the game

[worn cypress]

oh also bringing one stam curio is worth

[feral verge]

it has a good moveset

[worn cypress]

psyker has so much stam regen the mobility and being able to spam block w/ a +3 stam curio is awesome

[sweet drift]

https://tenor.com/view/brick-wall-talk-gif-5290288

[feral verge]

psyker has so much stam regen + KD i feel stam isnt really necessary

[quasi junco]

It’s great for elite killing. L1h2 destroys

[worn cypress]

yall stam curio haters can leave me alone

[sweet drift]

Rather just use the silly brain burst

[feral verge]

i dont hate stam curio

[bright mica]

stam curio fucks i love running

[feral verge]

i just love toughness or hp . more useful

[worn cypress]

just to be clear I dont think its absolutely necessary, but great QoL

I play more melee-y than a lot of people play their psykers tho

[bright mica]

also deimos fucks it's light spam has very good hclear even if it has stabs thrown in

[steel flame]

I've got a +9 stamina deflector illi surge staff + shriek and assail build that absolutely slaps right now

[bright mica]

2x hp + 1 stam curio goated

[worn cypress]

lol holy shit what do you use all +9 stam for

I never run out of my +3

[steel flame]

...... deflecting

[worn cypress]

ehhh

fair

[quasi junco]

In melee range it out dps’s brain burst

[sweet drift]

I don't know what you want me to say I don't have fun with the moveset

[quasi junco]

And keeps crushers in the ground with force push into H2 on weakspot

[worn cypress]

I dont stand to deflect lots

[thorn cedar]

the meme is that KD calculates its perils block cost based on the # of stamina bars you have, so more bars = even more block

[bright mica]

I've tried to use BB as my only anti armour option and it's Not fun

[steel flame]

It's kinda disgusting how much survivability I have

[worn cypress]

I can imagine lmao

[bright mica]

oh that fucks then

[thorn cedar]

its pretty not good tbh

unless youre already godly

[plucky flax]

Until you get a burster in the face.

[thorn cedar]

well, i am working on an auric damnation mindset

i bet its actually

pretty fucking fun and fine below damnation

maybe even at damnation

[steel flame]

That's what the zap is for

[thorn cedar]

maybe i should make this build right now

[bright mica]

extra stamina let's you push more :^)

[plucky flax]

Silent burster from the door behind you say hi.

[bright mica]

I love fsword pushes

the two stage push is so creative

[quasi junco]

Yea but I dislike charging the force swords. All of em

[bright mica]

more ppl should use them against ragers

[vast yew]

Even Illisi?

[plucky flax]

Wut illisi is so fast and easy charge.

[quasi junco]

Yes I’m too vulnerable charging it.

[steel flame]

It super fun walking right at gunners with deflector then knocking them all on their ass with the force push and slaughtering them all

[worn cypress]

I enjoyed illisi charge playstyle when slaughterer was great

[plucky flax]

You're just stroking your long ***

[vast yew]

It takes like a quarter of a second, just push -> charge

[bright mica]

wait until you use a chsword then

[plucky flax]

I use special light way more than special heavy.

[quasi junco]

At least Mk6 power sword you can charge while blocking

[plucky flax]

Just cos it's faster to come out.

[bright mica]

at least with deimos that crusher won't overhead you mid special

[bright mica]

you ain't about to tell me ps6 has more survivability than any fsword dawg 💀

https://tenor.com/view/mods-fill-his-stocking-with-coal-mods-christmas-lowtiergod-ltg-gif-12645377823045477295

[quasi junco]

No just easier for me to charge

[quasi junco]

Oh and power cycler 4

[plucky flax]

Just played a round with most melee kills. More than ogryn and zealot.

[quasi junco]

lol I do just fine spamming lights

[vast yew]

The power sword and illisi take the same time to charge though

[quasi junco]

Mk6 can charge while blocking

Lasts for one swing lol

If I didn’t like the push so much I’d trade Illisi for claw

[steel flame]

I do this with helbore bayonet vet and it's very satisfying

[vast yew]

But you can just push things away and then use charge-heavy before things recover

[quasi junco]

Hopefully mk2. Mk3 bayonet is aids

[vast yew]

Or charge light or whatever

[plucky flax]

The hammer zealot somehow has lower damage on default scoreboard than ovenproof scoreboard??

[summer prairie]

I thinkt he default doesn't count boss damage or something like that

[steel flame]

M1 actually. I don't shoot much, so when I do I prefer the extra kick

[summer prairie]

boss dmg is separate

[plucky flax]

Ah gotcha.

[gray jetty]

Bayonet with limbsplitter and brutal

[steel flame]

Ovenproof counts overkill + regular damage

[gray jetty]

Actually broken

[plucky flax]

I think ovenproof total damage accounts for boss damage.

[gray jetty]

Unironically needs a nerf

[bright mica]

I mean it's a bug so

[plucky flax]

Does it? Usually you get way more damage from default scoreboard compared to ovenproof.

[gray jetty]

Well they turned chastise armor reduction into a feature

[plucky flax]

Like I had 50k more on default.

[gray jetty]

For ranged weapons

[summer prairie]

no ovenproof doesn't count overkill

[bright mica]

I think they'll probably buff base bayonets and remove the blessing spill over

[steel flame]

Bayonet also self activates agile engagement to give itself 25% more damage for free

[plucky flax]

Both scoreboards don't count overkill it looks like.

Just weird calculation respectedly.

[summer prairie]

but the default counts overkill if it doesn't have the enemy hp yet

which happens when it hasn't been damaged or staggered

[steel flame]

I stopped using oven proof after 3 days. He needs to optimize his space better

[summer prairie]

if you one-shot for a lot of damage you'll inflate your default scoreboard damage

[regal jasper]

crying

[plucky flax]

The gun psyker last round was definitely one of them ammo hoover.

He's bringing bad rep to gun psykers.

[tender dirge]

as if they have good rep

[worn cypress]

whats up with people not killing sniper before rezzing

second death bc sniped on rez today

I pinged the shit and mentioned in chat too

[plucky flax]

I generally only play gun when there's an ammo vet on team. As I don't want to steal ammo from other guys. Or when there are multiple staff psykers in team.

[kindred sand]

The left one is better right?

[vast yew]

Yo that right one is cracked

[hearty oak]

Sometimes you just have to for the betterment of the team cause some people have no DPS

Or aim for that matter

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

If I think I have to carry the team I’m busting out the Fire Trauma

[kindred sand]

Cracked means bad right? XD

[vast yew]

I don’t remember Surge breakpoints but I think the one on the right is better

Both are good though because Surge is weird

[tender dirge]

no good

[vast yew]

Quell Speed is also a funny stat with logarithmic scaling

Because the devs enjoy pranks

[hearty oak]

Block effciency determines the amount of peril you take with deflector, correct?

[tender dirge]

yes

double block efficiency on my curious saved me more than once against gunner spam

[vast yew]

Also if you have Kinetic Deflection having a Stamina trinket lowers your peril generation

[glossy ember]

i love having negative quell speed

[vast yew]

The fact that it goes from -33 to +100, but is 0 at 50 and +40 at 80 is so weird

If we ever get the ability to get stats to 100 Quell Speed gonna go BRRRRR

[glossy ember]

i'm wondering when we'll ever get the ability to do that

and how they'll let us go at it

[vast yew]

Trauma charge speed will also go from 1.3 to 1 flat

Which would be nuts

[plucky flax]

Give me red trauma with blazing spirit t4

[fresh reef]

Finally got around to playing without any stam increases, and the only situation I've found so far where I couldn't block what I needed to with KD was a DH

Which can be easily circumvented by just kiting her around an object

[ornate hamlet]

I miss infinite dodges

You could do a no-hit on her with that

[ripe yacht]

Can you survive snipers/crusher & mauler overheads with KD & deflector?

[untold widget]

can you survive unblockable attack with a block? no

what a stupid question

[left basin]

when bb good

[vast yew]

BB good when it fits your build better than Assail

[idle bay]

i did once. Still don't know how it happened and too lazy to test how (it was Crushers overhead) so i write it off as one time bug

[vast yew]

Namely if you need to kill specialists at range, but you have adequate horde clear and want Psykinetic’s Aura

[bright mica]

BB is quite good with the right build. I prefer it on my Purgatus. Use the blitz modifier that makes it faster after using ability it's very useful

[terse shore]

wondering if i should keep riposte or not

[vast yew]

I run it on my Purgatus and Fire Trauma builds

[bright mica]

riposte is quite good!

[vast yew]

Second Blessing for DS4 is kinda inconsequential tbh, I’d keep it

[bright mica]

riposte is actually good on DS4

[vast yew]

The only one that’s mandatory is Uncanny

[untold widget]

devil's claw parry maybe? i don't even know if that works tbh since I never use it

[hearty oak]

you cant really go wrong with riposte or rampage

[terse shore]

might as well fix perks then

[bright mica]

I'd keep it and change stamina to Flak

then either fix Maniacs or t4 Uncanny

[vast yew]

It’s probably the best one, either that or Rampage, but if I had to choose between getting second blessing or fixing a perk I’m fixing perks

[bright mica]

I prefer Shred but ye

[idle bay]

Nope just regular Force Sword block with kinetic defelection skill. I lost all toughnes and small chunck of health and peril gone to critical

[terse shore]

was considering keeping maniac 20% and go unyielding tbf

[vast yew]

For DS4 I like Unyielding because it deals pretty good Monstrosity damage

[terse shore]

do you need flak on DS?

[bright mica]

No but Flak is so ubiquitous

I like Cara+Maniac myself

[untold widget]

Jees. I have KD 4, and have run 9 stamina with all of the peril reduction and still went down instantly

[vast yew]

KD is the talent not a blessing

[bright mica]

you always want Maniac for mutant insta kills

[idle bay]

That is why i write it off as one time bug. i was not supposed to block it and stay alive

[vast yew]

Deflection Block Cost Reduction also doesn’t apply vs melee IIRC

[untold widget]

oh, yeah you're right. I smashed kinetic deflection and deflector 4 together

[plucky flax]

Both carapace or unyielding are good.

With 100% rending you can 3 shots hs crusher with carapace.

[viscid matrix]

How much total effective health do you have?
Toughness and hp combined

Can survive a crusher overhead slam with enough effective health
I have above 400, I live thru a slam

[vast yew]

Also on the subject of DS4 is it even possible to hit 1-headshot breakpoint on Mutants? Does it require Warp Siphon?

[plucky flax]

Yeah warp rider and warp siphon.

Or just crit. Xd

[vast yew]

Okay because I’ve seen people saying you can do it and I just couldn’t get the breakpoint high enough.

[viscid matrix]

Throw in Unstable power if you can, for that power boost based on peril

[plucky flax]

I always soften mutie by using staff left click or assail.

[vast yew]

Not sure relying on Warp Charges and high peril is worth when you can just… special attack to stun them instead

[plucky flax]

That's too scary for Mr.

Me

[vast yew]

Always funny knocking them out of their charge like that

[terse shore]

deimos stab can but i've never seen it on DS4

[plucky flax]

[vast yew]

Yeah Deimos H2 can do it with 0 extra stuff except +Maniacs

[plucky flax]

I'm not that good I can't special hs a charging mutie.

[vast yew]

It’s nutty

[viscid matrix]

Edge your peril

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1180189422151536781/Edging_Practice.mp4?ex=657c840d&is=656a0f0d&hm=e42153076fa3a89b5887e9ea4deff26f97353a929515c5752717ab17ff4a22dd&

[vast yew]

Special HS is super easy on DS

[idle bay]

TH 125 health 195 and some health was missiong from corruption like 1/5 of bar

[vast yew]

All you do for special is just wait until the arm goes up and BOINK

Like pushing a poxburster

[plucky flax]

I wish I was playing blaze trauma in my zealot failed clutch this morning.

Every time I meme bad things happen.

[viscid matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1179445998288900189/image.png?ex=6579cfaf&is=65675aaf&hm=6e4f4a3f8a3906639180187b21fa72a9395bb421f73345dcc043cf6aa168593a&

[vast yew]

Your Zealot build is why I never take knives

[idle bay]

Team was sus - there is no fault on you. You did amazingly well!

[vast yew]

Knives are great until I REALLY need a nade

[plucky flax]

Yeah fire or stun grenade would have let me redd them.

[vast yew]

Then they let me down

[plucky flax]

But tbh I think they'd just die instantly.

Xd

[vast yew]

Teammates certainly didn’t help much though lol

[idle bay]

Can you send a picture of your skill tree i want to witness a sacrifices you made in the name one Toughness and Health ?

[vast yew]

ALTHOUGH

I do question your decision to keep the grim

Instead of picking up a Medkit

[plucky flax]

I actually cancelled my ress to push the dog that got me. Not sure what happened. Maybe I was too slow. Maybe lag. But alas.

[viscid matrix]

I’m not at my pc 😉 I might have a image posted one sec

[idle bay]

Input lag more likely or you just stuck in animation

[plucky flax]

Ride or die with my grim.

[vast yew]

Because that shitshow was not a situation where I’d consider even picking up the grim

[plucky flax]

Extra memes that's what I live for.

[vast yew]

Technically you didn’t live for them

[plucky flax]

[viscid matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1179681557238267934/image.png?ex=657aab10&is=65683610&hm=464ea210625acfca49363d85e70cfca0e2de1d5583dc01c5d22c249f67c86f04&
This is the bottom of the tree

Top takes both toughness and the 4 around outside and ignores the 3 middle nodes

My curios are each 25% HP and 5% T
I can go 3% hp higher eventually

[idle bay]

The DS i'm using. I'm not saying that's it's optimal. But i love those +2 Stamina there

[bright mica]

I'd probably put maniac on there and just use stam curio but if you like it then enjoy it ;)

[vast yew]

Honestly as long as it has good stats and Uncanny a DS4 is going to perform

You can make it better but the floor is stupid high

[bright mica]

just love Maniac for the mutant instas

Best anti mutant weapon easily

[vast yew]

Mutant instas are nice but require too much extra buffs to be consistent

Deimos can one-tap with 0 extra buffs

[viscid matrix]

Found it

#psyker-class message

[vast yew]

(Also Heavy Sword 9 but that’s Zealot)

[shy fiber]

Bro I just saw a level 1000+ Psyker 😭

[bright mica]

jfc

[bright mica]

DC4 for Zealot with Chastise too

chastise heavy 1 very consistently kills em with Maniac on DS4

[hearty oak]

Every game has their people who dont play anything else but that one

[untold widget]

Truepain?

[bright mica]

couldn't be me, I play every class lots because I love variety

[willow hazel]

Was it me?

[plucky flax]

Silo cluster and hab dreyko end events are hell these days.

[willow hazel]

hab dreyko end is crazy

[hearty oak]

I feel the torrent sewers are probably the biggest casual/console player filter. Its just perma hi-intensity

[plucky flax]

Torrent? Assassination map?

[bright mica]

I forgot which map but those fucking train tunnels man

[hearty oak]

Yeah

[plucky flax]

Chasm raid mission.

[wind halo]

For some reason, I can't rmb the map names of this game

[bright mica]

I can only remember Carnival

:^)

[wind halo]

Hab Dreyko standsout, its the scanning mission and the run from everything end

[plucky flax]

Chasm raid has tough mid event and end event.

[wind halo]

Carnival is Carnival, only because it was always on Quickplay

[hearty oak]

the start to this one is always just CBT

[bright mica]

hardest part of Carnival is the first 5 minutes because of my teammates dying in dumb as fuck ways

[wind halo]

Ran alot of Archivum Sycorax today too

[kind jay]

carnival is the epitomy of "idk where the fuck to stand"

[hearty oak]

Im sick of sycorax. Pops up too much

[kind jay]

me crouching behind boxes watching my team get 16 new buttholes installed

[tulip trench]

are toughness curios any good on psyker? or should i stack health since toughness regen is so easy

[wind halo]

"Rebreather" Hallowette scammed

[plucky flax]

The start event is quite tough tbh.

[radiant sleet]

The way the pipe mixes with the hair I almost thought it was abominable intelligence artwork

[tulip trench]

The big open area before you enter the brewery seems to always have a monstrosity, daemonhost, 2 hordes. 35 gunners

lmao

[radiant sleet]

True right where the first Medicae station I have seen some interesting wipes

[plucky flax]

Yep a lot of shotgunners + specials spawn there.

[radiant sleet]

I love when I pick the perfect spot to chain kill gunners raining from the ceiling with EP assail

[plucky flax]

Time to attempt meme heavy sword crit build again.

[untold niche]

how come ijn new patch, when i slide i still get shot by sniper? :v

[kind jay]

because

[shy fiber]

lemme check scoreboard

it was a Psyker named Narvast

[neat lake]

Which staff is the best for dealing with armor

[north venture]

noob question, kinetic resonance stacks with empowered psionics right?

[eager mantle]

One of the most unforgiving defense locations imo. Enemies come from the ceiling or doors on all sides, can drop from above. Trying to worry about the melee chaff while gunners start pouring in from across. The corner opposite from the medicae I find to be the best.

[viscid matrix]

Preference, I run full hp curios
Others run full tough

[harsh urchin]

Optimally you want a bit of both

[tulip trench]

kk

toughness curios are not appearing at all lmao

best ive seen so far is +15

[eager mantle]

Brunt was exclusively selling my ogryn wound curios for a bit

[quasi junco]

Hopefully you guys at least run one wound curio

2 wounds in auric is lulz

[eager mantle]

3 is my happy place

[quasi junco]

Same

[eager mantle]

I can't control the director or teammates. I want more than 1 down before I worry

Also with 2 wounds, being downed once and a poxburster gets close...nope. I don't want that

[willow hazel]

Wound just don't anything most of the time

Either it's too hard to pick you up, or your the last alive

[tulip trench]

shit.... which blessing do i steal?

[willow hazel]

HP/Toughness actually keep you alive

[eager mantle]

On ogryns I agree. On Zealot I can agree. On psykers and vets with their HP pools, I don't see the huge value the toughness/HP gives to their base values

[graceful grotto]

I'm nervous to touch this anymore than I have, any recommendations? I know 57% cleave is pretty low but this is definitely one of my best weapons despite that

[eager mantle]

Seen far too many 2 wound lil uns getting unceremoniously ended after picking up after their first down

[graceful grotto]

you could always hold it, unless you immediately need the blessing

[graceful grotto]

I run base wounds and the only thing that puts me in trouble is if a teammate shoots a poxburster I'm pushing ;-; which happens...often-ish?

[eager mantle]

I would just change the infested blessing and it'll serve you well until a better roll

[eager mantle]

Sounds like a reason for extra insurance.

[brave fiber]

^ best option

I also personally don’t really value cleave on the dueling 4 tbh

[eager mantle]

Again I don't run a wound curio because I'm worried about my play. I'm worried about the director and teamplay.

[graceful grotto]

I was torn between changing flak to unarmored for a melee clear weapon, or changing infested in unarmored because it helps meet some breakpoints like 1H dreg gunners, or rolling infested off for 5% crit chance

[brave fiber]

Infested to carapace

with uncanny it messes up crushers and maulers

[quasi junco]

Wtf they are making a Fallout tv series

[orchid shadow]

Oooh, new update Part II on youtube.

[graceful grotto]

I can definitely see this

[graceful grotto]

interesting, it already does pretty well against those, especially crushers, I suppose if I roll off infested I can test a bunch of things in its place, I was just torn if the unarmored+infested variant would be better and I didn't want to ruin it

[jade pollen]

I heard that there is a psyker cosmetic that modulates their voice

Anyone knows which is it

[summer prairie]

so new knife I guess

[thorn cedar]

i want a knife that only does damage on butt stabs

[orchid shadow]

Lol, these captions

[thorn cedar]

but its like a lot of damage

[summer prairie]

new laspistol too

[hoary badge]

for a moment I was pumped after what I thought was the force greatsword being showcased

[limber silo]

When it comes to new marks, it looks like knife, chainaxe, revolver, and vet shovel are guaranteed

I hope they do add completely new weapons as well

[hoary badge]

on replay it was probably just the illisi

[limber silo]

force greatsword is my love, would kill for some daemonhammers or force axes as well

just have more than one force weapon type in the game please

[quasi junco]

any rebreather

I just got one I'll post it in a sec

makes me sound like a chaos marine tbh

[eager mantle]

Probably in the future updates. Doubt they just let the armory be stagnant now that the game is in a good spot to roll out more content

[eager mantle]

Force glaive pwetty pleas

[untold widget]

I'll reiterate. Beam staff

[hearty dagger]

Ngl there's got to be stuff for Psyker they haven't shown yet

No way every class gets something except Psyker

[summer prairie]

what do you mean, we are getting some of the weapons

[hearty dagger]

The universal ones, yes

But 2 shovels for Ogryn and nothing for Psyker seems unfair

[patent hatch]

Slap 25% vs Maniacs on that shit

Drop infested

[spice oar]

NO NEW PSYKER STAFFS I TOLD YOU PEOPLE

[hearty dagger]

ONLY IN WHAT WAS SHOWN

SIT DOWN AND INHALE THE COPIUM YOUNG MAN

[spice oar]

STOP

[patent hatch]

Fart shark hate us siblings :(

[spice oar]

WE ARE GETTING NOTHING

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/dwayne-johnson-the-rock-wwe-smell-gif-16277621

force bretonnian longsword

[spice oar]

I FUCKING KNEW WE GETTING NOTHING

SO THEY JUST SHOWED OFF THE SMITE 8 TIMES IN THE TRAILER

[summer prairie]

they should just give us a knife that has sb instead of bleed

[eager mantle]

Recon lasgun buffs in the notes that are bugged to bait people into using them

[spice oar]

i am so unfathomably pissed

[eager mantle]

New laspistol and revolvers for warp crayon siblings

[hearty dagger]

I do wonder what the new laspistol is gonna be like tho

Slower and harder hitting or more spammable?

[spice oar]

oh i know but i mean a new staff or something cool

[graceful grotto]

The Maniac doesn't reach any breakpoints and I usually gun down ragers, maniac would help me 1-shot mutants with buffs a bit easier though but it wouldn't 1-shot w/o

[eager mantle]

Probably harder hitting. Thing already is spammy as fuck unless they make it automatic

[hearty dagger]

Fuck it, Accatran Recon Laspistol

[quasi junco]

thats my guess

[hearty dagger]

What's the other shovel for the ogryn though

The non foldable one i mean

Shit looked weird

[idle aurora]

can you record a small video, of how is sounds?

[eager mantle]

His gardening shovel

[hearty dagger]

Though the bigger question is what the fuck is the new knife gonna be like

Reversed moveset, i.e, slashing heavies and stabbing lights?

[patent hatch]

That's what ya run it for

[idle aurora]

direct teleport to london

[spice oar]

id prefer if it relied more on a moveset, kind of like a spear

[limber silo]

hell yeah, London Bin Knife Mk 2

[gray jetty]

Isn't that already happening with the 15 ragers popping out of the warp

[summer prairie]

the one left is fine

[gray jetty]

One moment you're in tertium

The next youre bleeding out in the streets of London

[tulip trench]

even with low mob?

blazing spirit not that good right?

[pine relic]

Does this armour have any special effect

[hearty dagger]

Nope.

[ornate hamlet]

Looking cool

[hearty dagger]

Cosmetics have no effects.

[idle aurora]

ye, it looks cool

[limber silo]

Yeah it looks like a discount redacted chestpiece

[idle aurora]

some helmets do

[hearty dagger]

Besides rebreathers or masks giving you a voice filter

[limber silo]

Anyone else kinda want the warp rods from canon?

[eager mantle]

I mean it's 2 stacks of soul blaze on crit. Most of the chaff you'll be cutting through will die to the crit

[limber silo]

Just an uber beat stick for psykers

[eager mantle]

I still like it because soul blaze activate neurons

[idle aurora]

eeeh, i like it too, but it looks way to massive, i like smaller armors for psyker

[limber silo]

yeah, but the weapon is strong enough that the only thing soulblaze will be meaningful on is bosses

[pine relic]

Is surge still bugged?

[patent hatch]

Right it's 380

[harsh urchin]

Carapace would be gucci

[patent hatch]

ye

[graceful grotto]

Ya I think I'm going to roll off the infested and test a few different rolls since I can switch it as much as I want, thanks for all the recommendations everyone ^_^

[eager mantle]

If the soul blaze on the sword acted like your talent and put soul blaze on multiple enemies around the target on hit or kill I'd like it more. The thing I'm cutting while critting gets soul blaze? It's like...ok?

[limber silo]

what is the real difference between mk V and mk IV duelling swords? They both kinda do the same thing

[pine relic]

It looks cheap

[eager mantle]

4 is stabby

[limber silo]

well yeah

but what difference does that make

[eager mantle]

Try the strike down vs the stab on crusher heads. The stab wins

[summer prairie]

iv heavies do much more damage

[graceful grotto]

4 kinda does everything, lights vs horde, heavies vs single target, special attack has solid stagger to save you vs things like ragers

[idle aurora]

idk, i love it with leather pants + skull helmet

[harsh urchin]

4 does about 40% more damage for no reason

[graceful grotto]

I've heard Claw 4 is good too but I haven't tested it personally and it may be better for zealot than Psyker, not sure

[limber silo]

so is there any reason to use the mk V at all?

[harsh urchin]

If you like it

[eager mantle]

All its missing is looking good with the raggedy ass psyker outfits

[limber silo]

IV claw is just the best claw

[harsh urchin]

The moveset for 5 is more fun

[limber silo]

true

I like big swing

wack

[harsh urchin]

This is wrong lol, 4 claw is simply the most easiest to use moveset

[eager mantle]

If you are making use of parry. If you aren't probably better using something else

[harsh urchin]

1 and 7 are quite good in their own ways

[limber silo]

IV has the easiest access to both horde and single target attacks

[eager mantle]

It's still really good. But if the parry is being ignored I'd prefer something else

[graceful grotto]

Doesn't Claw 4 have repeatable single target H1s and then a LH horde combo or some such

[limber silo]

yeah

[harsh urchin]

Yes, as i said claw 4 has the easiest to use moveset

[quasi junco]

i got thrown behind the vault door

[limber silo]

okay, so what do 1 and 7 have over it?

[quasi junco]

goddamn this game has tons of bugs

[untold widget]

how good could the parry be to give up that much armor efficacy?

claw swords are terrible against anything but hordes

[limber silo]

parry is kinda nuts

and no, you just need rampage and sweep and claws are great against hordes

[untold widget]

thats what I said

they're good for hordes

and thats it

[eager mantle]

But I do love it when a mutant throws me through the wall into the next room away from the horde that was gathering

[harsh urchin]

1 has repeatable heavy sweeps and 7 has a different push attack or parry pattern iirc

[limber silo]

my b

repeatable strikedowns on IV

[untold widget]

it's like 15 heavy attacks to get a crusher down

[limber silo]

or just parry crusher overheads and never worry about it

[harsh urchin]

And 4 has the benefit of a strikedown h1

[quasi junco]

unfortunately I dont have any cap software installed, but its OK, sounds kinda evilish tho

[untold widget]

how many parry attacks does it take to down a crusher?

[limber silo]

a few

[eager mantle]

You will delete ragers, parry crusher/mauler overheads, parry bosses with nice finesse dmg

[limber silo]

about 3-4ish in my experience

[harsh urchin]

Quite a lot and the people saying it's good against overheads have never used it 😂

[limber silo]

but the fact of the matter is that you have 2 weapons and claw makes you effectively immune to maulers and crushers

[harsh urchin]

You need to hit a 0.3 s parry timing or you die

You just use staff or revolver against crushers

[untold widget]

so does smite

[harsh urchin]

With the dclaw

[quasi junco]

its longer than that

[tulip trench]

a lot longer lmao

[limber silo]

but the claw will kill things unlike smite

[eager mantle]

But I'm a gamer(tm)

[harsh urchin]

Its not lol. You need to hit a perfect parry against overheads

[limber silo]

nah

[quasi junco]

you dont

i was messing around with creature spawner and did just fine

[limber silo]

guess you stink at timing because the claw parry is ridiculously forgiving

[quasi junco]

granted this is in creature spawner not a game

[harsh urchin]

Against non overheads

[limber silo]

it's not like any of the crushers other moves are particularly fast

[harsh urchin]

Overheads will punch through your parry and kill you if you miss the perfect parry timing

[limber silo]

nonsense

[wind halo]

Think it doesn't but you take more stamina to block it

[limber silo]

besides, if you parry something else while waiting for the overhead, then you stagger them out of overhead anyways

[harsh urchin]

Overheads are unblockable lol

[tulip trench]

dclaw shouldnt be your goto for elites, but when a rager/mauler you didnt see mixed in with the horde is suddenly in your face
thats when dclaw shines, parry and H1 overhead will pretty much kill them or stagger them and one more will kill them

[limber silo]

Parry is not the same as block

[wind halo]

Not if you parry, unless I have reached some previously unknown level of skill

[fresh reef]

no new staff in the trailer
boowomp

[limber silo]

this seems like a skill issue

[untold widget]

But my melee is what I use for elites because all the other psyker stuff like staves and shout and assail and smite and what not are way better for hordes than a dclaw

[ionic frost]

I just wish they gave devil claw a little more flak damage. =)

Or a lot more.

[limber silo]

the only issue I have with claws is the lights are garbage

[harsh urchin]

I think you just haven't used the dclaw enough

[untold widget]

honestly don't know why psykers are meleeing hordes anyways

[harsh urchin]

The parry has its own nuances

[limber silo]

it's the only thing I use on vet

[ionic frost]

Surge staff the horde!

[patent hatch]

fun

[tulip trench]

then MK4 Dueling or Deimos are your friend

[wind halo]

Illsi + Horde = blender

[limber silo]

because they're good at it if you have the skill to

[untold widget]

its not harde to melee a horde

[limber silo]

fr

[untold widget]

no skill necessary

[limber silo]

you'd be surprised at the struggles of noob vets and psykers

[untold widget]

you can do it just fine with a freakin knife

[quasi junco]

2nd game in a row a mutie threw me off the map

what the literal fuck

[ionic frost]

That's not exacyly a true statement. =)

[eager mantle]

Because you can't block with a staff

[wind halo]

time for speedrun strats

[limber silo]

I recommend everyone play every class because some skills transition between classes well

[harsh urchin]

You have to hit a perfect parry to block them

[ionic frost]

The zero skill players trying to melee die instantly.

[wind halo]

ppl like to exaggerate here

[ionic frost]

Ah, I forgot. =)

[limber silo]

That's because many people forget that block is a button

they just swing until they die

[quasi junco]

me with illisi

[ionic frost]

To be fair with the old brutal momentum I could stand in the center of a horde, surrounded on all sides, and just cleave through everything without needing to block. =)

[limber silo]

no blocking, no block pushing, just face tanking and that's their problem

[untold widget]

I guess

[limber silo]

Was trying to use an illisi with my gunker build, but kept killing myself with the push attack

[ionic frost]

They really need a training mode for the psykhanium to teach players these mechanics and put different mixed groups of enemies against them.

Really that should be how you move up to the next difficulty. =)

[untold widget]

if they can't learn in a game, they wont learn in psykhanium

to be fair

[ionic frost]

But it'd be telling them what they need to do, not just "figure it out."

[wind halo]

Tutorial skipped, ez

[echo turtle]

There is a mod called creature spawner that allows you to do that

[limber silo]

The biggest moron I ever had in a game was a psyker who just stared at their grim and shoved things with it for a good minute

[wind halo]

Nobody is going to spend extra time going into Psykhanium to train

[limber silo]

kicked him eventually

but he was a level 30 just staring at a fucking book

[kind jay]

parry is so forgiving its not even funny

[quasi junco]

that should be a penance

[ionic frost]

It doesn't "train new players" it just lets you spawn what you want. If you had to beat a psykhanium challenge to move up to the next difficulty, you wouldn't have people in Damnation who have no clue how to melee unless someone beat the challenge for them.

[wind halo]

Yeap this aint Dark Souls parry

[limber silo]

Penance: Be a Useless Idiot
Stare at a book while everyone else dies around you

[kind jay]

https://streamable.com/5jxhmw

[limber silo]

Psykanium is for breakpoints alone unless you have creature spawner

[untold widget]

wow 354 damage

that's

[wind halo]

Take off Peril blocking

[untold widget]

fucking terrible

[kind jay]

its not for damage

its for not taking damage

[untold widget]

yeah, you can just dodge

so

[wind halo]

DClaw aint gonna kill Crushers unless you are Vet anyways

[untold widget]

not giving up my ability to kill crushers to avoid dodging

[kind jay]

not when youre surrounded you cant

shit happens sometimes

[graceful grotto]

yeah there's def times when you can't side to side dodge them but its rare

[untold widget]

I'm a psyker, when am I ever surrounded?

[limber silo]

just pull out your gun, idk why you're aso against claws

[graceful grotto]

when last alive?

[limber silo]

staff whatever

[untold widget]

even then it's just the crusheres

[wind halo]

How about moving up from Uprising

[untold widget]

which one's uprising?

[limber silo]

How do you even build? I almost always get a pairing that can deal with everything combined

[untold widget]

whatever staff, plus either dueling 4, deimos, or knife

[limber silo]

I like illisi, chainsword, mk 5 usually something that compliments my staff or gun

I just really dislike deimos moveset for some reason, I prefer obscurus

[wind halo]

Deimos light 1 is

[limber silo]

sure

[wind halo]

then the heavy 2

[limber silo]

but I don't usually pick a weapon because I like 1 or 2 moves on it

[wind halo]

obscurus starts with the trash swings of the deimos

[limber silo]

I prefer good combos

[wind halo]

literall zdps

[limber silo]

I mean sure

[wind halo]

so Deimos?

[limber silo]

I don't like stabby weapons that much

I feel like stabs are just kinda wimpy looking

[wind halo]

sad

[limber silo]

I'm more of a slashy kinda guy

If I could have a chainsword with an actually decent push attack, I would never use the current one

[wind halo]

but its a decent push attack

Quick poke

[untold widget]

stabs require aiming, slashes don't

but the deimos is just fast with a super hard hitting L1

and the H2 knocks crushers down, and fully uncanny'd will 2 shot them

which is of use to me

[wind halo]

you do need to aim slash, if you hit bodies it does zdps

slash are weaker than pokes in this game

[untold widget]

ok so don't stare at the ground I guess

never occured to me to hit anything other than heads

[wind halo]

Sure bro

[untold widget]

holding the aim at head height and slashing is not "aiming" in my opinion

its only one axis

while stabs require 2

[untold niche]

Common guns for gunker?

[untold widget]

columnus MkV, Laspistol, revolver maybe

[harsh urchin]

Can you test this without peril block

[untold widget]

whatever you like I'd imagine

[harsh urchin]

I can't seem to replicate on zealot

[viscid matrix]

Columnus, Kantreal XII, Revolver, Vraks III, laspistol

[untold widget]

except shredder pistol

[untold niche]

What's Columnus? Also does laspistol do good damage to ragers? Ik it's bad against armour

[viscid matrix]

Autogun, all weapons have names and model numbers

[graceful grotto]

I use Columnus V, recommend dmg-stability-stopping power with dum dum + either fire frenzy, speedloader or deathspitter if you don't have it, I think speedloader is probably good too. I imagine revolver is good too.

[untold niche]

Ah. Is vraks also an autogun?

[viscid matrix]

Yes

[untold niche]

Revolvo need to reload alot though. No reloading talent for psyjer

[graceful grotto]

Columnus is like a close range rapid fire autogun, good hipfire, bad at distances

[viscid matrix]

Revolver has a Rend blessing, makes killing armoured targets easy

[untold niche]

What is good at distances? Orherthan revolvo

[wind halo]

Laspistol

[willow hazel]

Columnus works at about the same range as Surge staff

[viscid matrix]

Vraks III and Kantreal XII

[wind halo]

• MG la

[willow hazel]

Revolver is great at all ranges

[untold niche]

For gunker you guys take DD or EP + smite?

And gaze, of course.

[viscid matrix]

Mg La feels terrible to me

[viscid matrix]

I do

[wind halo]

Its literally better than XII since the buff

[quasi junco]

purg really is the prime rager killer for psykers

[wind halo]

Slightly lower damage for faster fire rate

[untold niche]

Thanks. Which one needs to aim heads that hopefully rewards you for the aim?

[untold widget]

I kinda like voidsurge for ragers

[wind halo]

All the las guns

[graceful grotto]

I take DD with kinetic flayer BB, BB is only for Bulwarks and if something is way way out of range of Columnus, SG, Mk4 DS + Columnus

[wind halo]

Infact, literally you aim heads with all guns

[viscid matrix]

Kantreal has biggest hit per shot besides the revolver
Vraks is a triple shot rifle

[wind halo]

Even Columnus IAG

[stuck bridge]

what's going on with the lightning in the new trailer

[hearty dagger]

Smite buff maybe?

[willow hazel]

its so much worse than everything

[wind halo]

You wish

[hearty dagger]

Or maybe even an actual rework so it actually does have more damage on the right click like it says it does?

[viscid matrix]

No idea, but also next boss is probably 2 at once

[quasi junco]

? purg slaps ragers

[willow hazel]

yeah but slower than everything else can

[quasi junco]

but more of them

[ornate hamlet]

when fatshark buffs smite damage and people start right-clicking hordes even more

[wind halo]

Yeap pls no

[kind jay]

https://streamable.com/3ia9ts

[untold niche]

If some thing our of range of your gun you gaze? Why

[viscid matrix]

It does more damage, just spread across multiple mobs, unlike primary which has garbage damage and single target

[untold niche]

Chialde what you run on gunker skill wise

[stuck bridge]

[viscid matrix]

Gaze, smite, dd

[willow hazel]

More than what? Any single target weapon with Perilous Combustion is way faster

[untold niche]

How do you horde clear

[wind halo]

Smite

[viscid matrix]

melee weapon is Illisi

[untold niche]

Ok that makes sense.

[wind halo]

at least you're not a filthy horde smite spammer

[untold niche]

Smite too slow, and only managed borse

[viscid matrix]

Smite can work if you don’t have gaze and need room

[wind halo]

got a ton of those nowadays

[viscid matrix]

Because they got scared of assail when it was nerfed, they thought it was killed and stopped using it

Or bored of it

[wind halo]

Nah its bad support players

[azure rapids]

best melee for psyker rn?

[wind halo]

They think its a MMO and they can do no damage and let others kill

[viscid matrix]

Depends on what you want it for

[azure rapids]

horde clear

[untold niche]

Chialde. When do you pop gaze?

[viscid matrix]

Illisi

[viscid matrix]

Usualy when I need a lot of damage quickly, since it gives crit chance

Use it a lot

[ornate hamlet]

New "assail is boring but I want dueling sword and revolver" build just dropped

[willow hazel]

Did the fix enfeeble working with smite right click?

[viscid matrix]

Taking both peril toughness when you can take soulstealer and elite fire, and get toughness from things on fire dying

[wind halo]

Revolver is getting yeeted soon

[viscid matrix]

X to doubt

It got bug fix so hand cannon didn’t apply all the time

[wind halo]

Very popular gun for all three classes, yeap I'm not taking my chances

[untold widget]

enfeeble is bad

[willow hazel]

mostly agree

[harsh urchin]

How many stam curios is that

[viscid matrix]

Because it’s easy as hell to use, it’s not the best gun in all 3 cases

FS take forever to nerf things, you have until January before it could possibly be touched

[wind halo]

We shall see

[kind jay]

1 3stam

[viscid matrix]

If they wanted to nerf it, why not touch it when they fixed the bug for its blessing in last big patch

[untold widget]

how long did EP give free smites for?

[kind jay]

just to clarify, the stam curio isnt necessary. it works the same without it

[wind halo]

Because they thought fixing the bug will make it less popular but nope

[harsh urchin]

Ye not sure what is the difference, from my experience, perfect parry = block; missed perfect parry = it punches through stamina and hits my hp directly

Or if any other mob triggers the parry = also hit hp directly

[kind jay]

could be a latency issue in an actual game

[viscid matrix]

They usually only nerf things that are excessively overtuned

[wind halo]

I mean we shall see, no use worrying about

[kind jay]

ive had a similar experience which is why i dont use it myself

[wind halo]

I don't like the weapon so I won't spent resources rolling it

[static needle]

can Deimos fill the roll of a maccabian mk IV team comp wise?

[ornate hamlet]

Feller, perilous combustion can't even kill a groaner on its own

[wind halo]

It can, but you have lower mobility

[ornate hamlet]

Does soulstealer at least work for when things die while on fire or does it specifically need the fire tick to kill them?

[wind halo]

Still same pokey pokey playstyle

[static needle]

how does one counter ragers that are up in ur face?

like, lets say 3 of em

[wind halo]

push attack with force sword to knock them down

[static needle]

cant that only get one at a time tho?

[wind halo]

yeap dodge backward and repeat

[viscid matrix]

Unless somthing has been changed, as long as they are lit up with Soulblaze when they die, it counts as a Soulblaze kill

[wind halo]

then you try to kill one and repeat

[static needle]

does deimos stab do equivalent dmg to DS 4?

[wind halo]

L1 -> H2 combo does a lot of dmg

[ornate hamlet]

But that's a soublaze kill, does it specifically count as warp?

[static needle]

Better than warp attack?

[wind halo]

Yeap its more dps than warp attack

you can use warp attack on the head to get max uncanny stacks tho

[static needle]

true, thats good against crushers i think

[ornate hamlet]

Or rather, to my memory the soulblaze talents describe enemies dying while affected by soublaze

Soulstealer describes a warp kill

[viscid matrix]

Soulblaze is a warp attack

[ornate hamlet]

I know

[spice veldt]

Soulblaze counts as a warp attack

but it must deal the killing blow

[static needle]

if they die by a bullet while effected by soulblaze, do you get the toughness from soulstealer talent?

[ornate hamlet]

Too much work for the toughness gain

[viscid matrix]

You get warp charges, or at least you did

Now you have me doubting the info I know 🙂

[spice veldt]

no

[coarse tartan]

holy shit finally got surge

[spice veldt]

Soulblaze has to deal the killing blow

[coarse tartan]

what should i replace the perks to?

[static needle]

Is there actually any situation where its good to have an obscurus vs illisi?

[wind halo]

nope imo, obscurus is kinda scuffed

deimos or illsi is what I rotate between

[glossy ember]

wait boys

[spice oar]

fr why tf is it shown 20 times

had to fill out psykers footage somehow, since we aint getting anything this update ig

[untold widget]

What are some good psyker pun names

[patent hatch]

Uh

[untold widget]

I feel like ogryn's get the best ones

[patent hatch]

defo

Emperors Dinner

[wind halo]

and breakfast and lunch

[static needle]

Guessing that his is worth investing in? Do you really want higher warp resistance or mobility? cant decide...

[quasi junco]

lol

[wind halo]

both are dump stats, so yeah

[neat lake]

What should I change about this?

[patent hatch]

25% maniac

and 5% crit

[neat lake]

Not flak?

[patent hatch]

nah

u oneshot headshot themn without it

[olive ember]

Well flak is specifically to hit one shot flak rager breakpoints apparently

[neat lake]

Thank you

[late yew]

How to find fuckn surge blessing for void...

[untold widget]

make lots of 365+ voidstrike staves. Level them to orange

or wait until melk hates you less

[quasi junco]

someone just said in chat they wish they could create their own builds.... do people not know about the top right corner ?

[primal blade]

so am watching the part 2 breakdown and i am not seeing anything interesting for psyker at minute 1:35

[primal blade]

they don't

[steel flame]

Whooooooooooooooo new laspistol variants BABY

[primal blade]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/911460885757841468.webp?size=48&name=thinkin&quality=lossless

gosh i hope pure ya know magic psykers get somethin

they showcased a lot of smite so i guess they will adjust smite somehow ?

if that even was smite

honestly i can't tell

i have never used the electric stuff

[late yew]

WHAT

WHERE

[fresh reef]

Just survived a Mauler overhead as Psyker

I am in shock

[kind jay]

shock better than dead

[steel flame]

New trailer dropped https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xkDe1mSDjtA

[fresh reef]

I have 46 hp to my name

[fresh reef]

Psyker gets nothing

[steel flame]

@late yew when they mentioned new variants both combat blade and laspistol popped up along with a few others

[half iron]

there’s a new staff variant

[fresh reef]

Where

[half iron]

the stub

[fresh reef]

[steel flame]

ITS HIGH NOON

[spice veldt]

new laspistol staff variant

wooo

[steel flame]

Very excited

[steel flame]

I wonder what direction they are going with it. High damage hand cannon or faster fire rate

Well......the one we have now fires really fast

Maybe armor penetration with a slower fire rate?

That would be dope

Knife has me excited too

[umbral helm]

another knife for Lamar Tythrone to stab people with

[steel flame]

Hehe more knives to backstab people with vet, hehehe

[smoky fractal]

on fire babeeee

[harsh urchin]

I'm hoping its a knife

That is more horde oriented

Like with more cleaving slashes

And then haymaker might see some use

[cold yacht]

Do psykers really need weapons?

[harsh urchin]

Yeah its fine

[cold yacht]

How does one make smite even more effective?

[harsh urchin]

Use it less

[cold yacht]

…

What?

[harsh urchin]

Figure out which situations you should not be using it

Thats how you make it more effective

[chilly mantle]

This is actually good advice.

[cold yacht]

Ok a big horde of enemies?

[violet oak]

Smite gives you space and time to do a more effective attack (or get some free movement)

[chilly mantle]

Big hordes
Gangs of ragers
Patrols

[late yew]

That does ont even make any sense

[glossy ember]

any reason why you'd wanna smite over using your horde clear?

[harsh urchin]

You only want to use it when there's dangerous mixed hordes

[late yew]

Horde oriented knife? wtf

[harsh urchin]

Against hordes you dont really wanna use it

Cuz it slows down

The horde clear

Since it stops them and doesnt let them funnel

[cold yacht]

Because I have a team and the horde is shut down completely unless it was nerfed in the latest update

[late yew]

unless you have EP

[harsh urchin]

You really only used it in mixed hordes with maulers, ragers, trappers, crushers etc that are risky

To clear

Otherwise its usually better to just clear the horde normally

[cold yacht]

Last I checked unless I was all alone I could spam smite with my low peril generation build attempt without issue

[late yew]

Empowered psionics

[cold yacht]

I say attempt because it was really just me trying to find as many abilities that lowered peril gen

I don’t have the tree in front of me but what does that one do?

[late yew]

Warp battery

reduces peril generation, increases damage per stack

[cold yacht]

Ah well that would certainly help

[violet oak]

[harsh urchin]

Well current knife doesn't really make use of haymaker very well lol

And that's one of my fav blessings on ogryn

[uneven nexus]

What would you say is the best staff currently to use? With the context that my ability is Smite.

[ember mesa]

I love my surge force staff but that's just me. I've been using one of the dueling swords but I think I liked the Illisi MK V Blaze Force Sword more with the surge force staff

Between the automatic brain bursts and high single target damage, it's excellent for clearing specials and I love the cc the force sword gives.

[ashen schooner]

all staffs are good, so the one who's playstyle you prefer

[uneven nexus]

Thematically, it seems that the Surge Force staff goes well with Smite, both if them being electrical, but I'm not sure what to use

[ember mesa]

Yeah honestly. Lots of people love voidstrike but I can't stand it.

[uneven nexus]

The Voidstrike force staff also feels REALLY powerful

[ember mesa]

But then again, I've yet to get one with Surge on it too ..

[radiant sleet]

Void feels alot better once you get surge imo

[ember mesa]

If you can roll surge onto it, then it's like wayyyyyy better

I'm at like 40 attempts and still no surge

[untold widget]

Smite can proc True Aim. True aim synergizes well with trauma blaze or voidsurge builds

[harsh urchin]

It's ok just a lot more situational

[ember mesa]

I still like it for popping snipers from crazy far but I mostly like the passive that causes it to trigger on attack.

[harsh urchin]

You can't really bb enemies with larger hp pools anymore

After the health buffs

[bright mica]

erectile pisssfunction

[ember mesa]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-40k-psyker-explode-perils-gif-10586129510772702813

I blew myself up like 5 times too many yesterday

[violet oak]

I too psykinetically shit my pants

[half iron]

omg me frfr (after one sip of the large baskin robbins chocolate oreo shake)

[fallen ruin]

something i think about alot, wouldnt 3rd person be a competitive advantage?

[cerulean mortar]

Got this, what should I change? What perks/blessing work better with Maccabian Mk IV?

[static needle]

As psyker with voidstrike with surge + nexus, can i do alot better damage wise? This is auric hi shock

[harsh urchin]

If you're not planning to melee bosses, you can swap unyielding and precog

[harsh urchin]

Your stats for plasteel is low

And imo that is the only stat that matters

[static needle]

serious answer pls

[radiant sleet]

What blitz?

[static needle]

smite

[half iron]

serious answer: plasteel/diamantine collection matters more

[waxen abyss]

Although smite can proc true aim I don’t like how long it takes to proc

[static needle]

im aware its important but that veteran roamed ahead and got most as you can see

[lilac summit]

any recommended blessings for trauma staff?
i feel like its a bit underwhelming compared to the other ones