psyker-class

[harsh urchin]

Since theres not a huge diff between 20 and 25%

[patent hatch]

Yeah but

Blocking projectiles

[ocean cipher]

deflector is nice

[plucky flax]

If you like deflector change both perks.

If you don't use deflector then change 1 perk 1blessing.

[harsh urchin]

Its alright on deimos because you generally pair it with purg which benefits from deflecting

[plucky flax]

Deflector saved me on my solo with bots run.

[harsh urchin]

Pretty mediocre on illisi because its generally paired with staves/guns that do well against shooters/gunners

[plucky flax]

[ocean cipher]

this is gonna be my go to ilissi so

i like having a panic button for shooters

[limber silo]

Do you not run shield for that?

[ocean cipher]

i usually run shriek

[untold widget]

Purg abuses Empathic Evasion, so it sort of doesn.t

[limber silo]

Deflector is a bit of a crutch, I'd recommend not using it so you can learn to use cover more effectively

[patent hatch]

Oh it's a crutch alright

a fun one tho

[limber silo]

Sure

[plucky flax]

I'm top 1% and I need my crutch

[ocean cipher]

wondering if i wanna go for trauma, voidstrike, or surge next

[plucky flax]

Deflector clutch never forget
https://youtu.be/CYoalxaVzKA?si=C8-4b7QbYb6Q3my-

[ocean cipher]

i wanna make a build centered around each

[patent hatch]

Traumua is what I'd personally recommend

[limber silo]

I think Slaughterer and Uncanny is BIS for all FS because of the interaction with Perilous Combustion

[ocean cipher]

trauma is fun

i've been having a blast with surge also

[untold widget]

slaughterer bloodlust on illisi is pretty good tbh

[limber silo]

Trauma is fun, but really fucks with my ability to aim a normal weapon

[patent hatch]

here me out

Gun psyker

[limber silo]

Gunker is amazing

[patent hatch]

Oh yes

[limber silo]

I run it with duelling and laspistol

[ocean cipher]

gunker sounds fun but if i was gonna play gunker i would play vet

[patent hatch]

Collumbus gun my beloved

[limber silo]

my buddy just got t4 exorcist for his FS and runs that

can naturally keep Scriers forever

[ocean cipher]

what staff pairs best with trauma?

[limber silo]

Trauma pairs excellently with itself

[ocean cipher]

er

surge

what staff pairs well with sruge

SMITE

SMITE

FUCK

[patent hatch]

lmao

[limber silo]

lol

[patent hatch]

Surge does

Anything does

[limber silo]

Smite is just nice in general

[harsh urchin]

Smite is kinda shit tbh lol

[ocean cipher]

i'm running ilissi smite so i really need a big dmg staff

[patent hatch]

go surge

[limber silo]

I use it on gunker because I lack stagger otherwise

[ocean cipher]

assail feels like ass

and bb is bb

[patent hatch]

assail is great

bb is ass

[ocean cipher]

assail is great, but it feels like shit to use

[ionic sorrel]

Assail is fun with my dagger build.

[harsh urchin]

Still rocking top dmg every game with assail lol

[limber silo]

All psyker blitzes are good in their use cases

[half iron]

assail is a handful of pocket vets and i hate vets😠

[limber silo]

Why do people say BB is bad still?

[plucky flax]

Funnily enough I get top damage with any of the 3 blitz.

[ocean cipher]

wouldn't voidstriek be good also?

since its a big dmg staff?

[limber silo]

I actually prefer BB over the other two after the honeymoon period with rework

[harsh urchin]

Cant do it with smite unless i dont use smite lmao

[limber silo]

Voidstrike is good for everything, it's just plasma gun, but infinite

[broken carbon]

time to use is too long compared to most other solutions for enemies

[half iron]

i can do it with smite. smite still lets me inspect my hands unlike ass fail

[plucky flax]

Illisi smite surge creeping flames do big damage.

[broken carbon]

what’s the best psyker boss kill

[limber silo]

Can't miss, can target shit you can see far away, has that one perk for spam on bosses

[plucky flax]

https://youtu.be/4G4_cXz19XM?si=vu8g1Ff61liNor3t

[limber silo]

I can use it after glancing at a problem, so i like it

[ocean cipher]

how does that work with creeping flames? out of curiosity

[harsh urchin]

Gun or melee

[limber silo]

Void

Headshots with Void stagger bosses

[ocean cipher]

usable?

[plucky flax]

Just cast shriek at high peril. Like any other normal creeping flame build.

[broken carbon]

either

[limber silo]

Would prefer better crit bonus, but yeah

[ocean cipher]

not gonna build it but usable for now?

[limber silo]

Too low rating for me

360+ or bust

what level are you @ocean cipher

[ocean cipher]

30

[limber silo]

yeah, you should be searching for higher rating weapons tbh

[broken carbon]

3 of my god rolls are like

350

well “god” rolls

[neon steppe]

I think that looks great, crit bonus is whatever anyway

[broken carbon]

but they’re still really good

[plucky flax]

Xd

[mellow gorge]

i think my lowest god roll of a gun is 348

[limber silo]

anything is useable even in damn+, but you should look for better weapons anyways

[broken carbon]

with the right dump stat anything is a god roll

can be*

[limber silo]

I mostly say it because your chances of gettting a good blessing aree way higher with high base rating

[neon steppe]

Meh with diminishing returns. The other 4 stats on that staff are great. Just need good blessing luck

[harsh urchin]

Useable but surge is pretty easy to roll so you want to try for better if you can

[ocean cipher]

what stats do i need

[plucky flax]

I consider myself to only have 2 or maybe 3 god rolls. When people post their god roll with sub 80 damage stat and not both t4 perks

[limber silo]

I don't upgrade anything below 360 because I never seem to get t4 blessings on them

[limber silo]

dump on all staves is quell speed imo

[quasi junco]

ive gotten so many good guns on psyker, when will FS let us pool all weapons between characters?

[harsh urchin]

You want charge rate, dmg to be 78-80, and the other stats you just want as high roll as you can

[plucky flax]

Not blaze trauma for me

Nor surge

[limber silo]

quell speed can be dealt with tho

[quasi junco]

staves kinda need all stats

[plucky flax]

It's dps loss

[limber silo]

30% quell perk is nice and shriek is great

[quasi junco]

i just spend $500k when I need a new one

chances are I got some high 370s in there

[plucky flax]

You need to quell more ticks

[limber silo]

It's a dps loss to quell at all tbh

[plucky flax]

Yeah and low quell you do it for longer

So bigger dps loss

[quasi junco]

imagine not edging peril

[limber silo]

Just learn peril breakpoints

[plucky flax]

Xd

Sorry I go back to sedition

[limber silo]

tapping right is usually enough for another shot or two

[hearty oak]

@plucky flax A good blazing trauma is damage, blast, and charge rate?

[limber silo]

also yeah, if you don't spend the whole match at 90% are you even trying?

Warp Nexus maxxing

[plucky flax]

Yeah and warp resistance at 60 something with high quell

[quasi junco]

exactly, which is why I only blow myself up once, maybe twice a mission, no jokes 😄

[ocean cipher]

worth anything?

[hearty oak]

THis is what im looking at

[limber silo]

that's pretty good

blast radius isn't that important anyways

[plucky flax]

It's alright but sad blast radius

Wut

[hearty oak]

sadius

[plucky flax]

It is for blaze trauma

[limber silo]

blast radius doesn't affect projectile size

I'm talking about the voidstrike, not trauma

Rok's pic

blast radius is SUPER important for trauma

[plucky flax]

[hearty oak]

Not as sad as the blessings this thing got

[plucky flax]

I would not upgrade it tbh.

[limber silo]

what's the point of having transfer peril on trauma anyways?

[hearty oak]

Need blessings on it so i had to.

[limber silo]

I mean why did fatshark give it to trauma, not why would anyone run it

[ocean cipher]

what blessings do i want on Surge

[plucky flax]

You gotta succ off hadron to find a blaze trauma like mine

[limber silo]

Warp Nexus and Flurry

[ocean cipher]

aight ty

[plucky flax]

[ocean cipher]

also is blaze trauma just purgatus?

[limber silo]

Nexus + Flurry is good for every staff, just basic

[hearty oak]

Get ready for the brickening

[limber silo]

It's purgatus, but with stagger\

and damage

[hearty oak]

[limber silo]

ayo???

[ocean cipher]

wtf does Surge do

[limber silo]

Gimme that Surge

Exactly what it says it does, simple as

[hearty oak]

lays out crowds

[plucky flax]

If you don't have one you can change blessings. Missing crit chance but it's playable until you find a better one.

[limber silo]

You shoot two boolets

[ocean cipher]

oh cool i dont get to try my new sword :I

[limber silo]

It's a very rare blessing

[ocean cipher]

its just insta crashing

[hearty oak]

What should transfer be? Nexus?

[limber silo]

Yes

Maybe swap that unyielding for maniac as well

[plucky flax]

Nexus and blazing spirits

[limber silo]

What

why would you get rid of surge

[plucky flax]

It's trauma

[hearty oak]

Trying to see what his staff is about

[limber silo]

oh shit

yeah, surge doesn twork for trauma secondary @ocean cipher

[harsh urchin]

Eat it for when they one day buff surge to work with trauma

[ocean cipher]

wtf

[harsh urchin]

🤌

[limber silo]

Obesefish strikes again

[hearty oak]

hadron wondering why tf i just ditched surge

[limber silo]

Surge on Void 😩 Surge on Trauma 🤢

[plucky flax]

Hmm surge on trauma won't kill smol dudes any faster since they die in 1 blast anyway

[hearty oak]

Guessing i want high crit for talents?

[limber silo]

Surge on Surge [file not found]

[plucky flax]

Check my vid for my build then you can adjust as you like
#psyker-class message

[limber silo]

Can we give some of the flamer blessing to purgatus?

Their blessing are so much more fun

[harsh urchin]

I mean

[limber silo]

Imagine showstopper on purge

[harsh urchin]

Most of them don't work or are trash

Showstopper is especially trash

[limber silo]

I said fun, not good

[hearty oak]

Was gonna ask why seers but i get it

[limber silo]

I want to turn shotgun hordes into popcorn

[spice oar]

I'm drunk rn but I just wanna say us space wizards😃🥰, we gang

[ionic sorrel]

I'm procrastinating at work right now, but I agree.

[zinc phoenix]

I wish they didn’t have the stupid collar on this new outfit

Messes with all the helmets and the clean lines of the jacket

[severe folio]

almost every head piece has collar though

[hearty oak]

Ehh. I feel like im missing something for it

[severe folio]

hadron though this is a voidstrike 😔

[hearty oak]

Like its missing that hard hitting thump

Has the effect for it but just missing the actual DPS

[sly charm]

Huh. Empra gave me a sword, is it good? It looks alright but Im very new to psyker.

[quasi junco]

Me on my fourth ipa agree!

[fresh reef]

Lord have mercy on my soul, I am considering making a Scrier's Blazing Trauma build

[quasi junco]

I’m telling your boss rn

[coarse tartan]

is there any special requirements to get surge blessing on a voidstrike staff?

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/do-it-gif-26049397

[coarse tartan]

or is it just rare because its tier 4?

can it roll on a blue staff also?

[strong gulch]

It's just rare. Drops less often than other T4s.

You can get T4s on blues, but the rate is lower. T4s drop more often on oranges.

[coarse tartan]

oof rip my plasteel

thanks

[severe folio]

it looks quite solid

need Uncanny

maniac, unyielding

[slender coyote]

I don't get the use of the surge staff

I can't get it to work without my peril going through the roof

[onyx sentinel]

was there a leak recently that shows ||we're getting new marks for staves||?

or was that for a previous patch and was debunked

[strong gulch]

Idk about staves, but from the anniversary part 2 official trailer has new marks at the end of the video.
https://youtu.be/3UiKFNlaqsU?si=EAM_s0ZK-Od4Jfq4

[strong gulch]

Surge generates a lot peril. Inner tranquility (Warp Siphon modifier) helps a lot. Taking Creeping Flames (Venting Shriek modifier) is nice for damage, aoe, and oh shit I'm gonna die.

[zinc phoenix]

Honestly psyker the one class where I want high mobility 😂

Having played more with empower/shriek/smite I will say this: it is ok, but warp charge/shriek/smite is way better

Even on smite uptime it’s just way easier with warp charge fueled shrieking

And you get more fire as a bonus

I don’t get what empower is for, bb maybe?

It kinda sucks on assail too because you’re gonna want to hit dd

[spice veldt]

as a cool keystone that emphasizes the "3rd weapon" nature of the blitz
but they really should've done something more with it

give some cooler effects on an empowered blitz

maybe give back brain burst wrack & ruin or some AoE when you brain burst something
give it cerebral lacerations back during EP

give it a different system/mechanic for each blitz, instead of having this same charge system for all blitzes
maybe for assail, it would just modify it to reduce your max shard count to 1 and you would just have a more improved blitz at the cost of requiring you to keep on constantly swapping to it since you don't have a higher max ammo count as a buffer

make smite a lightning punch on LMB when empowered

[hard locust]

dump stat for purgatus?

[quasi junco]

Damage

[hard locust]

just damage?

which is better to lose, quell speed or warp resist

[azure bridge]

oof, none honestly

[quasi junco]

Warp resist imo as purge builds it slowly

[azure bridge]

I can't live with low warp resist, on any staff

[zinc phoenix]

Burgeratus meh

[digital narwhal]

Would be pretty wack if we didn't get anything unique for Psyker

[ornate hamlet]

Personally I do assail EP as stacking true aim and firing it

With occasionally getting a shard that is even more powerful

[zinc phoenix]

The whole point of it is the peril

You use peril to fuel fire shriek

[ornate hamlet]

And it also helps with spamming on elites because I get one free shard per kill

[azure bridge]

if part 2 doesn't give us a staff, I will legit be sad

[spice veldt]

at least psyker can use the new revolver

[echo turtle]

Has anyone tried a tank melee build with scriers to stack toughness damage reduction to 80%?

[strong gulch]

Idk about tank, but DD + SG is a popular choice for melee focus.

[echo turtle]

Ok, I was also looking at a single point into warp siphon to trigger at 100% peril to get scriers down under a 10 second cooldown

[spice veldt]

psyker's DR nodes are all multiplicative, so you're going to get 58.5% toughness DR instead of 78% when taking all nodes

[echo turtle]

Ah that's a shame, I was expecting at least all the 5%s to be additive like the ogryns nodes are

[spice veldt]

we took their 2.5% crit chance and ogryns decided to hoard all of the additive DR nodes

[strong gulch]

Unless something changed, SG doesn't currently work with cool down reduction from warp siphon. 😭

[echo turtle]

It works, when you trigger scriers at 100% peril

I was looking at trying to build to get 100% uptime by cycling scriers, but it's just bit out of reach

Triggering it then using smite to buy time until it can be triggered again would probably work better

I'm just playing with the combo now after giving scriers gaze surge a go

[inland crescent]

I got drip

[solar sand]

damn this game really wants me to play trauma

[azure bridge]

It does

[solar sand]

is sustained any good or do i swap that with flurry

or do i roll manic into crit and go soulfire

[silent socket]

Soulfire gang stalkers rise up.

[echo turtle]

Sustained is bad

[harsh urchin]

You really want 78-80 roll on charge rate on trauma

Cuz the scaling is giga fucked

[solar sand]

.23 seconds off 80

but i dont have a built trauma, so id say thats a good trial staff

[harsh urchin]

A quarter of a second every single time you use it

[bleak tulip]

how can you even tell the difference

is there anything in its description hinting at the way its added up

[fresh reef]

this was standard damnation

🥲

[bleak tulip]

did that take like an hour or something lol

[fresh reef]

I think 45 minutes

[bleak tulip]

and only 100 plasteel

for shame

[digital narwhal]

*105

smh

[fresh reef]

trust me, I tried breaking off looking for more

[bleak tulip]

if fatshark gets to round down so much I can too

[fresh reef]

then 2 of them got surrounded by ragers and died

lol

[quasi grotto]

hi guys when you say surge is bugged rn how bad is it? just slightly worse than the other staves? sad to hear it cause i've been trying the staves out and was liking surge

[bleak tulip]

not as bad as it was but still kind of annoying

[fresh reef]

it's not really bugged at all

just has some slight annoyances, and by annoyances I mean pretty much just one

because it still targets limbs, you can end up dealing less damage because of armor modifiers

still nowhere near as bad as it was when it did 50% damage on limbs

[fresh reef]

this run was with surge staff actually

[bleak tulip]

would sure be nice if FS figured out what kind of identity surge is meant to have

[quasi grotto]

ooh so it's still very usable

[obtuse moth]

its bugged if your +25% damag e perks dont apply because random body parts

which means it doesnt hit breakpoints

[bleak tulip]

for some enemies its bascially a coinflip yeah

which is just tedious

[obtuse moth]

afaik its acknowledged by FS which makes it an officially recognised bug

[quasi grotto]

tbh i'm still just lv17 on psyker so this isn't a huge deal for me just yet until i hit 30 and can start the gear grind

[quasi grotto]

this is specifically to the chain part of the attack? or does the initial hit also change targets

[fresh reef]

this applies for everything in the secondary attack

though the second target it chains to will take reduced damage, but that's intended behavior

they take a fifth of the damage done to the first target I think

[quasi grotto]

ahhh i understand. so you can be aiming for the unarmored bits of an enemy and it might register on a different armored area

[harsh urchin]

Yep

Makes it very inconsistent

[spice veldt]

it was revealed to me in a dream by crab

[untold niche]

kinda sad DD no work in psk, wanted to see DD vs WS damage

[spice veldt]

you'll have to turn off invisibility for enemies to be marked

[untold niche]

already off but no mark

see

[celest hedge]

what perks should I look for in a trauma staff? I asked before and got no answer

[spice veldt]

only human-sized patrol enemies get marked

bruisers, shooters, stalkers, maulers, ragers, gunners, shotgunners, and maybe something else I'm forgetting

[celest hedge]

mine currently has maniac and infected and i'm wondering what to change

[untold niche]

i see, so zombie no get marked?

[spice veldt]

sadly not

[untold niche]

thanks alot mr arco :D

[spice veldt]

yw

now get on the DD grindset

[worthy scaffold]

these 2 have the same alter voice right? Only different is glowing eyes

[untold niche]

altar(?) alter
voice sucks anyway
sound like t hey on the heavy gas

i was expecting something much cooler

also makes your hair go bald

[silk hawk]

i bought that one, the voice of that one is scary XD

anyways, i am here to ask... is it worth to go for true aim as void/smite?

[untold niche]

you bought this one in this pic?
or uou mean the one he show

[silk hawk]

bought the one i linked

[obtuse moth]

true aim is like half the point of voidstrike

[untold niche]

is it the same voice as that one he show?

[silk hawk]

idk what voice of the new one that he shows

but the one i bought is like very deep voice

i would say even brutal

[untold niche]

so sorry do you mind recording

or if anyone knows if it sounds the same as the new one

[obtuse moth]

flak unarmored or flak maniac probably. carapace as the second perk if crushers are your problem

[celest hedge]

thanks, I wasn't actually expecting any help this time

[obtuse moth]

are you asking about rending trauma or soulblaze trauma

[silver portal]

Wait these have voice alters? The gold one sounds normal for me

[celest hedge]

I just picked up rending 4 from the shop 5 minutes ago

[untold niche]

in the pins there is a steam guide that is still relevant you can check that for these kinda stuffs

[obtuse moth]

because i have crit chance on my soulblaze trauma

[celest hedge]

so I slapped it on there

[distant roost]

flakiac is the better choice, most staffs will hit breakpoints on unarmored things readily

also gunners left lower leg is flag so itll deal bonus dmg there

[untold niche]

this is funny

[celest hedge]

it does good enough against trash that I shouldn't really need the infected anyway, and I do use it on groups of maniacs and stuff when they're too close to BB or deal with my deimos

[silver portal]

Someone have a clip of how this alters voice plz

[silk hawk]

i gota play another game to record it...

[untold niche]

scream in psk

[silver portal]

I have gold one and it sounds normal (no alter)

[untold niche]

nvm cant do that

[untold niche]

it does alter for me

[silk hawk]

ye i tried that Xd

[silver portal]

Send me clip peasant >~>

[obtuse moth]

ah ok, i know prepatch 13 flakmored was popular because it one shot gunners without minmaxing. was never my spec but it was very popular

[silver portal]

Plz

[distant roost]

could be the case but if you are getting enough stagger you should be fine

[distant roost]

also infected is only like... 3 enemies. usually a meh perk choice

Top 4 perk choices are Flak, Maniac, Carapace and Unyielding for most builds

Crit chance is just

no

[celest hedge]

which is true, but I do mostly go through trash with the thing, but trash doesn't need any help to kill

[distant roost]

yea exactly

like if your staff isnt 1-2 tapping trash easily

then uh

Get gambling

[celest hedge]

if i'm using trauma staff i'm doing like 5-6 bursts of it at a time, any trash that survived the first one isn't going to be able to do anything before the second one, and even if they do live, they won't after the third

[untold niche]

mainly about clearing space

not everytime you have luxury of time

[obtuse moth]

crit chance is the whole point of blazing builds

[untold niche]

quick qn how much CritChance does the perk give?

[distant roost]

like

5%

[azure bridge]

if i wanted to switch out warp battery for kinetic resonance would that be worth it?

[distant roost]

and tbh i run void if i do a crit build so

[untold niche]

also im liking illisi alot, makes horde clear much more comfortabler although i am no longer usain bolt without DS4

[untold niche]

but you won'

t take crit perk?

[distant roost]

disrupt destiny + true strike

Every 5th shot is crit

so its negligible

• void shits out damage tbh

[untold niche]

am very salty void doesnt do even more damage

feel like budget revolvo sometime :p

[fluid knot]

It has unlimited ammo and double shot blessing... its like a plasma you dont need to pick up ammo for

[distant roost]

yea uh

Void having projectiles

The size of a ford ranger

is like

insane

[untold niche]

is projectile size affected by the weapon stat

[distant roost]

hence the lesser damage

i think blast radius?

[azure bridge]

void is pretty nutso

[wind halo]

Bruh the un-upgraded Venting Shriek is terrible, it just clears 10% Peril

[fresh reef]

combat knife might become my new favorite melee if the boss damage keeps up like this

[long wharf]

it kinda looks like your total damage output wasn't the knife

[fresh reef]

and it used to not even do that

[fresh reef]

how so? pretty much only used it on bosses

save for the odd surge hit here or there when we had a horde spawn at the same time

[obtuse moth]

no

[bright mica]

4k plasteel and not even warp flurry 3

[obtuse moth]

what base item level were the weapons you were upgrading

[bright mica]

I have every tier 4 and 3 on trauma except warp flurry

[bright mica]

enough to get only tier 3 and 4 blessings hadron just hates my ass

I don't even want a good staff I already have a decent one to put warp flurry on and ive been using it with warp flurry 1

hadron HATES ME

[obtuse moth]

you can bless the first slot with a t4 you already have to reduce the pool if it happens to be something thats t1/2/3 only

[bright mica]

ah shit that's a good idea too bad I sold all those shitass traumas

I'll do it next time I bust my balls getting a good one

thanks for advice

I need warp flurry on my void too ugh

void flurry save me

save me void flurry

my two fav staves hate me meanwhile my purgatus and surge godrolled in record time lmao

fml

[vivid mica]

what keystone do my fellow psiblings like to run with their smite builds? i've been enjoying disrupt destiny as it's easy to keep up stacks, but am not sure if skipping empowered psionics is worth

[bright mica]

oh funnily enough its warp siphon thats preferred

[vivid mica]

huh haha interesting

[bright mica]

the most common build is running surge staff with creeping flames and warp siphon with this layout

[vivid mica]

i usually run bubble dome and am spamming that and thought it'd be a waste as id lose my warp charges all the time

[bright mica]

the peril cost reduction lets you surge for super long

[fresh reef]

here's my current build

[bright mica]

and mine w/ surge staff

[obtuse moth]

only take in fire reborn if you have wildfire imo

[fresh reef]

in fire reborn is fine without it with PC as supplement

[obtuse moth]

i find its usually still less than half of enemies die without soulblaze, which means your warp charges are less consistent

[untold niche]

how do you play ds4 as a voidstrike staff user? (in context of horde)
see horde going to enclose you, preemptively run away?

[obtuse moth]

you can just blast them with vs and slide push through if its tough

[silk hawk]

uploading sample to YT

wait a bit more xD

[fresh reef]

I should mention I'm primarily using WC for Quicken and Essence Harvest, so I could be very wrong to advise on the more common WC reasoning

being the damage increase

[untold niche]

okeh tenks

[untold niche]

but the VS projectile is just one straight line, that "gap" i don't think you can run through either because horde will clsoe it or even if you can you will get hit and then get slowed

you have a clip or something mr noth

[fresh reef]

positioning is critically important for Void

ideally, you should have a lane to spam full charges down

[spice veldt]

damn, not a weapon for me

[untold niche]

some segments just have no lanes :(

[fresh reef]

personally I use smite to offset my skill issue ill-advised positions

[zinc phoenix]

Surge smite is based but I do right side warp charges and definitely take wildfire and the other fire one + fire shriek

[untold niche]

any good vods of voidstrike players?

[spice veldt]

if I wasn't supposed to be in such bad positions, why would the game let me be in them!!!

[untold niche]

noth do you have any vods

[fresh reef]

tbf, it wasn't bad position until the crusher spawned behind me

[zinc phoenix]

Imo void is overrated

[spice veldt]

the bad position, localized right under the crusher's hammer

[silk hawk]

https://youtu.be/8kWsl2hLTsU

should be a few voice samples here

[fresh reef]

https://tenor.com/view/principal-skinner-yes-seymour-skinner-the-simpsons-enthusiastic-yes-gif-15806751

[zinc phoenix]

Void is definitely more of a hellbore and surge more of a revolver ig

[untold niche]

yeah same voice

[silk hawk]

🙂

[untold niche]

arco you know any good vods of non EP voidstrike?

[untold niche]

thanks dude!

[fresh reef]

void is more akin to plasma imo, and helbore to surge

more in line with their cleave

[silk hawk]

yw 🙂

[zinc phoenix]

I give you the plasma vibe, but surge is quick shoot from the hip for fast kills with not much in the tank and that feels revolver to me

[neat lake]

Just started playing the other day, do people hate me for using Assail?

[zinc phoenix]

No it’s honestly kinda bad now

[ionic sorrel]

Best devils claw?

[zinc phoenix]

But it got a bad rep from when it was too strong

[zinc phoenix]

All of em seem good

Parry hard

[fresh reef]

fair enough

[ornate hamlet]

Mk4 is my favorite

[silk hawk]

depends on how u use it...

[ionic sorrel]

Thanks friend.

[ornate hamlet]

h1 is a strike, pretty nice horizontal combo for hordes

[strong gulch]

No lie, I've been liking the MK 2 duelly.

[neat lake]

Spamming at hordes mostly. Doesn't seem to do much damage to elites apart from trappers and snipers.

[fresh reef]

drip check

[zinc phoenix]

It’s really better for smacking gunners mobs

But fuck it hordes will go down fine too

[silk hawk]

then i see no reason for hate...

[fresh reef]

you should save it for ranged enemies, and use rmb for special sniping mostly

[zinc phoenix]

Or anything at long range

[untold niche]

void shoul.d at least get the projectile speed buffed

[fresh reef]

pretty much

[vivid mica]

what blessings pair well with a dclaw?

[zinc phoenix]

Idk it’s slow and all but it hits like a brick shithouse

You really should have to work for something that powerhouse

[neat lake]

Just that there seems to be a ton of skills and passives and what not that trigger off of kills. Running to a group with a melee weapon only to have it decimated by a bunch of floating spikes would probably piss me off

[untold niche]

can't "work" if enemy decides to go back into cover

[zinc phoenix]

The higher the diff the less people care who kills what because so much shit to kill

[neat lake]

Game seems like it's a lot more fun if everyones having a good time

O

[zinc phoenix]

If it ain’t shootin you ain’t dyin

[fresh reef]

?
it literally just shoots over most cover

[neat lake]

That's fair. I've only done up to malice at this point

[silk hawk]

idk in aurics there are enough enemies for everyone XD

[fresh reef]

aim it close enough and it'll hit em just fine

[untold niche]

as in the wall, not the blockage types

[neat lake]

I've heard that word but idk what it means

[fresh reef]

fair

rare that I see shooters go behind honest to god walls though

[cosmic sigil]

shred rampage, savage sweep rampage

[neat lake]

I assume the end game

?

[zinc phoenix]

Extra boosted diff for people who get bored on top diffs

[silk hawk]

auric damnation difficulty, basically its endgame

[untold niche]

also sometimes, i shoot at a crusher and my teammate decides to stagger him
im not blaming the teammate of course.

[fresh reef]

I'm so sad the claw swords don't have uncanny

I'd use them in a heartbeat

[zinc phoenix]

They’re so good on vet that I’m tempted but I’ve got a hardon for deflector

[obtuse moth]

theres splash and you can rapid fire it for cc, you can also aim it downwards. running through is for DS not for VS

[zinc phoenix]

Aiming?! My big balls should destroy walls without such malarkey!!

[fresh reef]

I've been sober from deflector for nearly a year now

I have and will maintain that it's for the most part a waste of a blessing slot

[zinc phoenix]

Took me almost that long to roll it 😂

Every time I survive a gunner because I right click and block all the shots til I’m in cover I’ll remember you said that lmao

[silk hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/champoy-el-risitas-kek-issou-etu-gif-17837830

[fresh reef]

I quite simply just press F with Shriek

or Smite, if they're the fun kind that appear out of nowhere

[zinc phoenix]

I try not to use shriek unless it’s properly charged up with peril and there’s plenty to burn

And I also like having at least 3 wc

[fresh reef]

valid

[obtuse moth]

did you try to slide instead? sprint slide +dodge slide or dodge spam (with a dodge only keybind)

if you play other classes without deflector you learn its not needed

[silk hawk]

if u run WC there is no point in goinf creeping flames at all as on me XD

since your main point is to NOT use the ability

[zinc phoenix]

You know I think I may have picked that up while running through all of them in aurics

[fresh reef]

this is such a strange take

[zinc phoenix]

It does so much damage, that’s the point

[fresh reef]

like, yeah the damage is impactful, but you're going to make the WCs back practically instantly

and have a fuckload of CDR on top

[zinc phoenix]

You can barbecue half an entire area every 15s

[half iron]

warp charges on top‼️💯🗣️

[zinc phoenix]

It’s why surge is so great, fast peril gen on a specialist sniper

[silk hawk]

why so i legit prefer to run with 6 charges 80% of the time, and using shriek only in a very critical moment when i need a stagger or "reload fast" 🙂

i always have where to spend 2 extra points

[fresh reef]

I practically spam it

[untold niche]

does the 6 go over BPs compared to 4?

[fresh reef]

the cooldown with 4 WC and Seer's Presence is about 15 seconds

[zinc phoenix]

I like to take the perk for 6 to get it even lower but there are some nice alternatives in the tree

[silk hawk]

dont think so, but in total i just like to have that extra dmg and extra peril to spend

[fresh reef]

I only take 4 instead of 6 so I can get more toughness

[untold niche]

then theres no point of extra damage is there? ;v

[fresh reef]

sitting at 179t/211hp

[zinc phoenix]

Which makes a lot of sense

[silk hawk]

there is always a point in extra dmg bcuz there is crashers rages and all ther shit 🙂

[untold niche]

yeh but if it doesn't go over BPs what the point :v

[obtuse moth]

or the point is to spam more creeping flames and get charges back for free. its way more damage to burn everything

[silk hawk]

its hard to explain, in the moment where u might need 4 i will find out yourself with 2 or 3 bcuz u keep spamming it

and its gona be a wipe

[zinc phoenix]

Shriek is an incredibly powerful cc + damage skill

[half iron]

interesting “what if”

[fresh reef]

oh no, my CD is 18 seconds instead of 15 seconds

[zinc phoenix]

You’re not gonna wipe by spamming it as often as you can

[fresh reef]

what a tragic event

sounds like skill issue tbvh

[untold niche]

he meant that he doesn't have enough WS stacks (to hit breakpoints ia ssume)

[ornate hamlet]

I'mma be honest

[untold niche]

not the CD

[half iron]

i am actively shidding my psyker pants for losing out on three seconds of my ability cooldown

[zinc phoenix]

Ok hot take here but I have trouble understanding why people take dome because shriek is so good

[obtuse moth]

dont waste it, but if you kill more things you'll have less pressure. and prevent the situation in the first place--which will prevent a lot more wipes and unnecessary damage taken by the entire team.

[fresh reef]

fair, but that's also loadout dependent

[silk hawk]

as i said, its my personal take, but when i use warp charges i most try to NOT use ability, and so there is no point in invensting points into it

[untold niche]

i assume its like because of a5histg, some areas very open, can't get to cover and might be hard to kill the gunner at the back

[obtuse moth]

are they carapace breakpoints? because setting them on fire lowers the threshold needed to kill them

[ornate hamlet]

If you need a lot of shrieks in a row and somehow don't kill enough enemies to fill some warp charges, specially since by default it will give you charges on elites (and specialists?), there might be a bigger problem somewhere

One shriek does a lot, two even more

[zinc phoenix]

It may be worth trying something completely different and see if it changes your world view

[fresh reef]

Can't forget you also have Warp Rider and Perfect Timing to supplement your damage

[ornate hamlet]

Needing three, four or even five in a row feels like a bad team or maybe poor usage of it

[silk hawk]

i am currently running void/smite/EP/ shried build, where i spam it

[ornate hamlet]

Or trying to offload too much work on what is at best a timed ability that helps you kill stuff

[obtuse moth]

that strategy is a lot more valid for bubble, are you sure you're not holding onto instincts and habits from using that or something similar?

[silk hawk]

i dont see that much VALUE of shriek creepign flames as everyone saying

[azure bridge]

what doe surge on a trauma staff do? it doesn't double the AOE does it?

[ornate hamlet]

On my EP build I still absolutely shit out shrieks

[obtuse moth]

no. it only works on primary fire

[azure bridge]

just got surge on my voidstrike so I was curious

its too bad I can't put warp flurry on it

[obtuse moth]

its sad, so are a lot of blessings on surge trauma

[untold niche]

i see,
you mean like even at 6 stacks of soul blaze?
but usually cara bps are like around 15% of his hp right, just from trying different weapons from different classes
but i don't think fire can do 15% of his hp at 6 stacks

like if your gear is lacking, its 5% of his hp, but if its like something super highly damaging seems like 15% is a common bp

[obtuse moth]

i don't even think sustained fire works on trauma left or right click

[silk hawk]

isnt nexus is better with surge?

[fresh reef]

a lot
surge has exactly 4 blessings lol

[silk hawk]

it can if after shriek u start spam melee at them with uncanny

[ornate hamlet]

I thought surge had 3

[fresh reef]

though I guess with 50% of them being bad, you could say it's a lot of them being bad

[obtuse moth]

i'm saying unless you're talking about specifically carapace breakpoints, damaging them with fire means your one-shot threshold is lowered. carapace is the exception because carapace doesn't take much DoT damage without rending/brittle

[ornate hamlet]

Terrifying barrage, nexus and flurry

[fresh reef]

Run n Gun

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/darktide-ogryn-run-naked-funny-gif-18082679885906165021

[fresh reef]

and I think it has Focused Channeling too, so 5

[ornate hamlet]

not that one please

[untold niche]

oh so sorry, i misunderstood you then

[obtuse moth]

brainfart i meant trauma

[fresh reef]

ah, yeah

[ornate hamlet]

me when the gunning running

[untold niche]

also the increased in difficulty from recent patch,
i can even feel it in malice
i feel my team feeling it too

[obtuse moth]

grats! surge is GOAT'd on VS

[fresh reef]

me when I

[zinc phoenix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9abfede9-3d59-4440-afa9-c8d815f849a0

That’s the build I run

I’m probably missing something

[silk hawk]

average pub team

[fresh reef]

No Fire Reborn?

With Wildfire Creeping Flames?

[zinc phoenix]

No, don’t trust it

Psychic vampire very reliable

Anybody kills stuff I get my bit

[untold niche]

i am an average player after all :p

[fresh reef]

fair

[obtuse moth]

thats fair for builds that dont have any SB source from weapons

[fresh reef]

I probably should swap to vampire honestly, since I'm not running wildfire

[untold niche]

what is vampire

perk?

as in blessing?

[obtuse moth]

its a talent that gives you warp charges from kills

[zinc phoenix]

I don’t value the peril reduction per warp charge at all either

[obtuse moth]

the alternative gives it from things dying that have soulblaze at a 2.5x conversion efficiency (in fire reborn, 10%)

[fresh reef]

I only take that node with Scrier's builds

[untold niche]

oh that one

[obtuse moth]

peril reduction is pretty nice on surge staff imo

[zinc phoenix]

I want more peril not less

Peril is where my damage comes from

[obtuse moth]

its also part of a lot of smite builds

[silk hawk]

i find it only nice with trauma and surge

everything else is kinda meh

[zinc phoenix]

I think they’re wrong tbh

[fresh reef]

based

[obtuse moth]

if the point is to lock things down until you can shriek, i think it serves that purpose

you'll get to max peril anyway

with a lot less danger

[untold niche]

do you guys think the 5% crit aura is bad?

[obtuse moth]

no

its good and afaik still also gives you 5% CDR aura

obv depends on loadout

if youre running things that dont benefit from crit its not great, idc if your team benefits tbh if you don't

[silk hawk]

but usually its more beneficial to go cd or dmg aura bcuz there is that perk that decreases dmg taken based on your peril

[untold niche]

wait what?

[obtuse moth]

yea, the base 5% cdr aura that you get for playing psyker doesnt go away when you take the 5% crit afaik

[untold niche]

so seer prescienc is 15% cdr?

[obtuse moth]

no

[zinc phoenix]

I take it for when I’m going gunker because you want to stack as much crit as you can

[obtuse moth]

its still 10% cdr and the damage aura is still 5%

seer's presence is just 5% + 5% basically, idk how its specifically coded

[untold niche]

i see.

is one with the warp (toughness DR based on peril) worth not taking the crit aura?

[obtuse moth]

what build are you running lol

[untold niche]

1 sec

[ionic frost]

Ugh...some teammates...

[obtuse moth]

if you have to ask, you probably should be running the 10% cdr

you'll know if you'd benefit from the crit

[ionic frost]

What do they think I am a Diablo 3 loot companion?

[untold niche]

voidstrike
i mean i would benefit from the crit,
plan to use blessing surge and the peril +crit one

[obtuse moth]

interesting that the revolver player got the lowest number of specials and disablers

[untold niche]

its just that i don't know if one with the warp is worth it to not take the crit cdr

cause33% TDR is quite insane

[fresh reef]

god damn they got hard carried

good on ya

[untold niche]

and with the peril based crit im always at high peril anyway

[ionic frost]

Stealth Vet revolver.

[obtuse moth]

if you plan on taking venting shriek your choice is already made for you

[untold niche]

of course, if i take crit aura i will take bobble

[zinc phoenix]

Quietude (quell gives you toughness) is hard to pass up imo

[ionic frost]

It would've been nice if they'd just loot some stuff so I could voidestrike groups of enemies before they scatter...

[untold niche]

so again, is the peril TDR worth it to give up 5% crit aura :p

[obtuse moth]

if you have high enough density, i would say being able to use shriek more often is more damage but -------dude be patient

[untold niche]

i find that when i really need toughness fast enemies are on me so i can't keep quelling

[ionic frost]

At one point they sat at the bottom of the stairs fighting a horde for like 5 minutes...

[untold niche]

sorri boss :p

[zinc phoenix]

You get it from passive quell too iirc

[obtuse moth]

automatic quelling counts too, from doing nothing or using shriek

[long wharf]

any reduction in your peril is quelling

[untold niche]

so ultimately, because i can't take VS which is pretty good, not worth it to take the crit aura?
So sorry, very exciting to learn about builds

https://tenor.com/view/spy-x-family-spy-family-anya-forger-anya-spy-family-bond-forger-gif-25331854

[zinc phoenix]

I would say have a gameplan in mind for how you want to play your build and where it’s damage is coming from, then pick stuff that you think will enable that gameplan

[ornate hamlet]

Crit aura is pretty dope

[silk hawk]

for me it is, 5% crit is not that much in the end of the day, but u also keep in mind that 33% is only at 85%+ peril so in average its gona be around 15-20% which is not bad too )

[untold niche]

in my mind, by right i should shoot stuff at ranged, they shouldnt be too close to me.
VS kinda flips that around where you want them to be at like mid range? so like kinda counter intuitive to use it for damage. which is what you guys are advocating it for.

But vs does give me breathing room when either i mismanaged, or just the push effect of it.

[obtuse moth]

your earlier question on what to do with vs/ds in hordes @untold niche

[untold niche]

i love you many many noth

[fresh reef]

good god what is this framerate

[obtuse moth]

its a gif capture tool lol

[silk hawk]

what is that fov... XD

[untold niche]

ah so
spam fast rmb,
spam DS4 PA
then out of stam, spam light.
Then go back to staff and repeat

[fresh reef]

adds up I guess

[untold niche]

i think he recorded using obs
game doesn't like obs idk why :v

[fresh reef]

please, do yourself a favor

grab OBS and then use this
https://8mb.video/

[silk hawk]

my recording was with obs too xD

[obtuse moth]

too lazy but i'll keep it in mind thanks

[fresh reef]

[untold niche]

the game doesn't like my obs
if i record it with obs the resolution is locked to some super tiny resolution.

[zinc phoenix]

Part of why I stopped using void so much is early on it crashed games for people when I machinegunned it into really big hordes 😂

[silk hawk]

what is the cost of such compression thou xD?

[ornate hamlet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Xa3lfd0ukk

[zinc phoenix]

Even now when someone is going ham with void I can feel my computer chug

[fresh reef]

it lowers both video and audio quality, so really it's a hardly noticeable decrease in both

[silk hawk]

hmmm

i gota use that next time, tnx

[obtuse moth]

nah i used screentogif. i mostly record long examples of how to use software so cutting down the framerate is a nobrainer

[untold niche]

@silk hawk @fresh reef are you using obs screen capture, or game capture for darktide?
game capture fucks up the resolution

[half iron]

omg so true!

[fresh reef]

I usually use xbox's game dvr

since I can use it without having to open obs

[silk hawk]

"capture any full screen application"

obviously u must run your game in full screen mode after that

[obtuse moth]

yeah something like that, but the push is for avoiding taking damage or using stamina for blocking (two bars won't do ANYTHING) while dodging your butt out of there. the push also helps make space to actually slip through

[fresh reef]

most of this clip is irrelevant, but I'm wondering why I didn't take way more damage from this burster

[spice veldt]

game capture with OBS works for me

[half iron]

i forget bursters do damage. only time they explode on me is when there’s a ledge nearby

[untold niche]

i might ping you later and show you my obs

[fresh reef]

the one time I tried using OBS to record in the background I ran out of memory kek

[spice veldt]

sure, though I don't know much about OBS

[ripe yacht]

Left/right?

[open bear]

What does the alt fire of assail do? The floating crystals for people that don't know them by name.

[obtuse moth]

left imo

[spice veldt]

higher damage at the cost of windup and higher peril

this is what my settings looked like, which is just the defaults
it worked for me without having to do anything

[obtuse moth]

400 base damage, travels farther/faster, locks onto targets. you can even curve them over shields

[ripe yacht]

And the secret third option?

[obtuse moth]

i learned you can also weapon swap to cancel the aftercast

that staff is bad

burn and cloud radius are the most important stats

[spice veldt]

and it seems that the windup is shorter if you enter the RMB after an LMB

[obtuse moth]

damage isn't that important

[ripe yacht]

Yeah, that's what I figured lol.

[obtuse moth]

80% radius and 76% or higher burn is what you want

[obtuse moth]

interesting, wonder when thats applicable intentionally

[spice veldt]

probably when conserving shards

[open bear]

Thank you all

[spice veldt]

after I've spammed it all

[obtuse moth]

if you're conserving then why use an lmb at all instead of animation cancelled rmbs only

[spice veldt]

i still don't like the RMB, but the shorter windup does help it along

[spice veldt]

depends on how many shards I have remaining and how soon I think the fight is going to end

[obtuse moth]

id probably just spam lmb until it hit zero then move to rmb tho

[open bear]

Been a die hard head popper fan. But I have been experimenting with builds.

[obtuse moth]

rather than lmb ->rmb on repeat

[ripe yacht]

Honestly, I've started using RMB almost exclusively with magic missiles.

Unless I don't want to aim and just want to clear a room of specials.

[spice veldt]

i try not to always dump all of my shards because I do rely on them for stagger if I ever get caught by ragers

[ripe yacht]

I'm running it for better targeted range access, not spray & pray. I have a Purgatus for that.

[spice veldt]

and it's a nice thing to do if only to pace myself

without being agonizingly slow as just doing only RMB

[silk hawk]

with purge u should probably run BB xD

[ripe yacht]

Tried that, prefer magic missiles.

[silk hawk]

only proves that bb is lacking :9

😦

[ripe yacht]

I don't want the random burst chance. I want to pick something and fire & forget.

(So I can go back to doing my job of horde clear)

[zinc phoenix]

BB has its niche, nothing escapes it

[open bear]

Is bb lacking?

[zinc phoenix]

And if you trait right you can spam it

And it’s good vs armor and ok vs boss

I like it a lot for trauma

[ripe yacht]

I have deimos/purg for armor.

[urban sandal]

revolver is just bb but better

[ripe yacht]

Ditto boss.

BB would be better, but it isn't as flexible as MM.

[open bear]

Can two piece a bulwark with bb

Revolver go crazy

[ripe yacht]

True.

[zinc phoenix]

I’d agree. Assail is more flexible but you lose the high end power

[urban sandal]

bb goes out the window when someone with a revolver shows up, except for a few very rare scenarios where suppression is an issue

[zinc phoenix]

I feel like why take revolver when columnus IAG exists

Esp on psyker where you can just crit every shot from it

[spice veldt]

for quickswap enjoyers i suppose

only reason i haven't run revolver is because I hate the reload

[zinc phoenix]

The reload is pain

[cosmic sigil]

iag cannot 2 shot a crusher

[spice veldt]

since handcannon still applies to assail if you swap to the revolver while the shards are up

[cosmic sigil]

this why i take bb with iag tbh

[ripe yacht]

Which isn't applicable at range, I don't believe.

[spice veldt]

i need to get on that quickswap grindset eventually

[zinc phoenix]

It’s really nice for zealot where your range is just a bonus

You can stab and immediately pivot to headshot

And still be back in for the next stab

[lethal lagoon]

Assail RMB with DD is pretty fun.

I've been leveling an extra gunker with that mostly.

[hearty oak]

Im probably the only person whose got a boss kill with perils of the warp

[untold widget]

Well, looks like my packet loss is calming down. Might be able to get a game or two in tonight

woo

[ornate hamlet]

How did you find them

[untold widget]

my packets? no I just assume it's because "primetime" is over

[burnt island]

What are the go to blessings for Force swords and for Duelling swords?

[bright mica]

eyy knife + columnus gunsyker actually works

[burnt island]

Asking because these are in melk right now.

[bright mica]

flesh-tearer is S tier on gaze psyker

[burnt island]

Huh.. Haven't thought of flesh tearer on the gaze psyker...

That's a lot of crit

[bright mica]

I run this with crit aura and gaze

Obviously not amazing

but its good enough

[untold widget]

watching a crusher hemorrhage out in a couple of seconds is pretty satisfying

[bright mica]

I hard carried two sub lvl 20 noobs it was fun

[burnt island]

I've had this, but I've not used it on the psyker even though I crafted it.

[bright mica]

ofc I used Assail to compliment hclear and save ammo

[untold widget]

Hmm. Armory has this revolver that might not be terrible

[bright mica]

Lacerate sucks on Psyker

The reason Flesh-Tearer is so good is because of the way it interacts with crits

[burnt island]

I mean I could change it. It was just some tier I trash before I changed it.

[bright mica]

crits cleave apply the bleed on everything you hit which can be a good 3-4 enemies if you're up close

[bright mica]

Yeah change to Uncanny and its good

Flak is prob what you want but I went with crit chance since for Psyker crits are toughness recovery, extra speed, ranged weapon immunity and flesh-tearer

Ppl forget that the value of crits changes class to class

Crits are mega valuable for psyker

[burnt island]

Lol I've never thought of a crit build psyker. New idea. Thanks.

[bright mica]

This is my Columnus, could be better but eh

[burnt island]

Any idea what the meta blessings are for force sword and duelling sword is currently though?

[bright mica]

Only thing that matters on Lumnus perkwise is Flak

so imho Flak + Crit Chance is best

[bright mica]

The guide in pins has good recommendations

Also mk4 dueling sword is preferred

its heavy attacks are simply the best

[burnt island]

I heard mk 2 was good poking stick.

[bright mica]

DSword always wants Uncanny Strike

Then Rampage or Shred

I prefer Shred even though Rampage is bugged

In a good way

Shred means more cleave, on crit effects, etc.

[spice veldt]

mk4 is the best dsword by a good margin

[bright mica]

Mk4 can 1 shot mutants reliably with Maniac

Sometimes its like 95% hp

so you can heavy attack into a special tap since special is damn near instant

Rlly depends on your peril

since mo peril mo damage

[bright mica]

Here's the build I run on it, feel free to switch things around

I've solo'd bosses with it and carried while my whole team's dead. Works best with a Scavenger Vet ofc but even then you scarcely use ammo if you make efficient use of your Assail

Make sure to make your Columnus look cool as fuck otherwise you do less DPS

[bitter escarp]

high speed LMG time

on quell cancelling a blaze trauma staff, how much more speed should I be expecting to squeeze out

[spice veldt]

if it's the same as patch 12, then quell-cancelling cuts the 0.6s downtime to 0.3s

[tawdry pasture]

somebody said the n word in vc

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[urban sandal]

snitching

[obtuse moth]

riposte is fine, esp on the hard targets you need it on. same top crit chance as shred for 6s on dodge, including ranged fire

[bright mica]

#🎒support-issues

[bright mica]

Ah yes, forgot about Riposte

[bitter escarp]

ok, so I'm going to need a lot more practice

[bright mica]

All 3 of those are good, but Uncanny is honestly a must pick

[tawdry pasture]

im getting a sports bra for my ogryn from there

[obtuse moth]

trauma is definitely noticeablely faster quell cancelling

[burnt island]

Oh wow, so that's a disrupt destiny build. I tried it once and I just could not get used to the moving marked target.

It was distracting

[bright mica]

oh damn not bad, shame warp nexus + surge is better.

[bright mica]

Feel free to swap to EP if you want

It wont change much

[bright mica]

got from mission reward oh ripp

666 secondary actiion 💀

[burnt island]

Funny thing is I'm more of a warp charge user just for that juicy 24% bonus damage boost until ability usage.

[obtuse moth]

all your blitzes can help with DD, assail for obvious reasons and headshots, brain rupture because you get kill credit partway through a charge, and surge because tagging an enemy with anything refreshes your stacks

[burnt island]

I wonder how that would work with a scrier gaze build

[bright mica]

Really difficult to work that into a Gaze build since Gaze is off CD all the time

Also its far as fuck from Gaze

[burnt island]

That makes sense. It practically is active even after scrier gaze ends for a bit.

[obtuse moth]

venting shriek for the same reason refreshes disrupt destiny stacks, but guns are def better than staves at getting stacks imo

[bright mica]

Its a low DD build (as in only 2 points dip for 30 sec CD)

but yea assail helps anyway

cus its good for killing single targets

[obtuse moth]

too bad the cooldown reduction doesnt work with gaze :<

[burnt island]

Lol I'm a veteran main. I'll make it fit the tree. 😆

[bitter escarp]

DD and dueling sword is also great for melee psykering

[bright mica]

You could just do a non Gaze build

Also you really want True Aim

True Aim is too crucial for any Gunsyker

[bitter escarp]

with the crit strings you get from a Columnus especially

[burnt island]

Jk. I won't actually use warp charge for this. It does seem useless for it to help gaze cd when its so active all the time.

[bright mica]

Psychlot is a build that doesn't use Gaze but is a Colmunus Psyker

Just adapt it into a no-cast build

[obtuse moth]

dueling sword isnt that great for melee psyker imo because of low cleave. unless you're just using it for elites and specials

[bright mica]

I imagine Graia would work better here

[bright mica]

Deimos imho fucks most. Especially with Exorcist

You can keep Gaze going for a very long time

[bitter escarp]

I picked a DS 4 up with Rampage

[bright mica]

It can hclear good enough esp with Gaze

[bitter escarp]

it's not ideal but it makes me cackle

[burnt island]

I'll go down EP tree.
Bio Lode or OP souls?

[ornate hamlet]

souls

[obtuse moth]

it doesnt actually work because gaze ends after you use your ability and lose all your stacks and thats when the cooldown starts

[bright mica]

DS4 is amazing on certain staff builds. I adore it on Purgatus since it deals with Mutants and Carapace

plus you can stun ragers

[obtuse moth]

ds4 is my goto melee weapon, i just wouldnt use it for melee psyker

[bitter escarp]

you do exercise your clicker finger a lot if you want to use it as a primary though

that was my read of noth's comment

clearing horde is unnecessarily labour intensive

[bright mica]

I agree. I like Deimos and CKnife for Gsyker

I tried to make Illisi work with Laspis + BB

but it was just too dang awkward

and Deimos hclear honestly isnt far behind it

[obtuse moth]

i dont hate illisi anymore after they unnerfed it, idk how much they did but it wasn't like let me leave this game right now anymore.

it was fun again

[untold widget]

Just Voidsurge'd 6-9 maulers at once. I need a cigarette

[bright mica]

I like it on Surge

shame I dont like Surge

[bitter escarp]

what would you recommend for melee psyker?

[burnt island]

I've never done a gaze/EP psyker before. Might as well test this in Heresy first.

[ornate hamlet]

Dueling sword benefits from assail and true aim

I use it a fair bit and do some work in pubics

Pub aurics, if you will

[obtuse moth]

depends on playstyle: bromentum rashad or antax, illisi, deimos, combat blade w/e, but something that can deal with high density hordes preferably, while still having great armor damage

chain sword would work too with a cleave blessing

i forgot about chain sword

[bright mica]

I know Recon kinda shit rn but should I yoink or nah

I could swap out Stripped Down put on Infernus, groaners for smth else like Flak idk

[silk hawk]

gota focus dem bosses more to finally become full gold T.t

[bright mica]

Boss DPS is hard on Psyker unless you build towards it so don't feel bad, you did good :P

Besides you still got damage taken to work on :P

[silk hawk]

i have void with surge on me.... but there is never enough time to spam it at bosses

i am always busy with something else 😦

[bright mica]

Feel you man. Purgatus works good work on bosses if you care abt that :P

[rose lily]

is the soulblaze of venting shriek bugged?
i popped it with my purg staff equipped and i'm still getting very low DOT

[bright mica]

At what peril

[lethal lagoon]

I literally saw someone do that today when I was lvling a char. Might be the only one with a t5 boss kill though lmao.

[silk hawk]

u gota pop venting at 85+ % for full effect

[bright mica]

^

[strong gulch]

Huh. I had 2 wounds total and a sliver of white left on my first wound. I exploded and the game acted like I was in grey so I super died.

[rose lily]

oh, low, i see now i needed to be at higher peril for it to be effective

[bright mica]

85% gets you max stacks :P

[half iron]

i’d explode if i ever saw a crusher doing an overhead upsidedown

[vapid lichen]

if you have 2 wounds, sometimes the ui is kinda buggy and shows one pixel of white on your first wound when you're actually on your second

my friend and i noticed this a while back and we tested it out a bit and realized that that one pixel of white is fake

[spice veldt]

hp% also causes it

it's a weird issue that hasn't resolved for a while

[silk hawk]

its a glimmer of hope that emperor grants us XD

[spice veldt]

i believe it did used to actually count you as being in that wound, but they fixed that but did not fix the sliver of hp thing

[strong gulch]

Aw I see. That's stinky. Thanks for the info.

[vapid lichen]

is it some sort of rounding error lol

[strong gulch]

false confidence

[compact bluff]

the fake white hp also stops a martyrdom stack, so the game does very much think its real until you go down or smth

[vapid lichen]

weird

[lethal lagoon]

Anyone try running unyielding on Surge staff? The boss damage actually seems pretty good.

[silk hawk]

u can get better results by just melee with ds4

[lethal lagoon]

They fixed surge boss damage recently, in case you wern't aware.

[hearty oak]

I need to see if the fatshark forums has anyone still complaining about DD still being broken

[coarse tartan]

hey, can you share your gunker build? :) feeling spicy

[digital narwhal]

Can’t.
I’m off my PC and I was about to head to bed.
Hit me up like… later/tomorrow though.

[coarse tartan]

thanks will do

[ornate hamlet]

We're up all night to get gunky

[hearty oak]

I can when im out of my match. Its pretty straight forward

[coarse tartan]

thanks!

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait

I’ve got the image saved on my phone

I use this with Columnus IAG and Combat Knife

[hearty oak]

heres mine. Any differences with grond is merely personal changes but it should look like this

[coarse tartan]

oh nice

what weps do you run?

[hearty oak]

colum mk 5 with dueling sword mk 4 or force sword

[digital narwhal]

I don’t like Battle Meditation for Gun Psyker

Makes it harder to edge Peril properly

[lethal lagoon]

I assume BM is in the hopes scrier's get's extended or what?

[vapid lichen]

i like bm for extending scrier's personally

[hearty oak]

More like it has saved more times from accidentally blowing up

[vapid lichen]

doesn't happen that often but it does work a little

bm also saved me when i decided to assail during scrier's for some reason

so

why not lol

[hearty oak]

Tunnel vision is the worst enemy

[glossy ember]

i think it's a pretty good option but gotta wait for the fix to armor roulette. unyielding good since it lowers the number of rmb on reaper and bulwark by 1 and we do decent boss dmg now

[hearty oak]

Also my build is more for speed when you start killing targets in blue. ||They're federal agents so they glow in the dark||

[lethal lagoon]

Armor roulette improves damage on bosses and bulwarks atm.

Part of the reason I thought of using unyielding.

[glossy ember]

yea but unless u crit no guarentee you hit unyielding on bulwark

they got carapace and flak on their body too iirc

[spice veldt]

it's not the armour roulette but the hitzone damage multiplier ignore

bosses have a bunch of <1x ranged hitzone damage multipliers on anywhere that's not a weakspot

[ornate hamlet]

I thought they adjusted those recently

[burnt island]

@bright mica Lol. That was a pretty fun build. Always wondered how gun psykers were built right. Though next time I should bring a laspistol instead of a lasgun.

[ionic sorrel]

Thank you whoever recommended the mk IV sword.

[coarse tartan]

whats the general gameplay loop look like?

just assail trash until you need scrier?

[hearty oak]

spray down specials and blue targets to get your stacks with your mk 5. switch to assail when there is a thick amount of enemies and want to conserve ammo. the mk 4 DS or force sword for horde clearing.

sciers is for when you need that extra boost

pop it when low peril other wise you wont get much out of it. Use it when the fighting starts, etc.

[fallen ruin]

I’m newer to psyker and haven’t watched any tutorials or anything but I realized a tech with smite

[supple skiff]

pop scier at 80% peril before staff spam

[fallen ruin]

I’m sure it’s already been well documented

But I notice that smite locks and will push the direction you are looking

So after you hold your zap down you can flick to fling enemies closer

I started doing this cause I just like to look around while it locked and noticed it

But I’ve started to use it to pull enemies into fire or off cliffs when the push normally couldn’t