#psyker-class
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so 
PC saves you from the absolute worst situations where you have to melee a bunch of fat armoured specials
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either way it's always a damage increase
Clip from crab, This was back when it was 4 stacks iirc
I prefer flak/carapace on void
Surge and nexus yes
That's coming from an assail user though, maulers/crushers are my enemy so I need the extra damage vs them
But basically pc is pretty much a must pick
Man... i need to get better at psyker
Cuz it’s free damage whenever you kill a elite/special
oh wow just had what might be my worst experience so far
And in the current state of the game where specialist and elite spam is difficulty that steams a lot
had a chaos spawn throw me into a daemonhost, survived, and had a poxburster prematurely explode and kill me
Oof
I can Damn run on anything that isnt my psyker, because i'm bad XD
Any advice my fellow siblings can give me?
Should i be looking into certain newb-psyker friendly builds/playstyles?
What kind of setup are you currently running on Psyker?
You want meta or just wte people are running

I was running purg staff with duelling sword
Cuz I may or may not be running some cursed ass blazing spirit + rending shock Scriers gaze trauma rn for testing
but honestly i think i just need to... like, find something that works, and stick with it
I meant that message as a reply for Krugg, oops
purg + duelling sword sounds solid
what are you dying to
overwhelmed by specials I guess?
what blitz should i be running?
I'm genuinely not sure
like since the new talents i've struggled with psyker
My issue with Assail, is that i dont know where/when to use it, and what to use it on
66k monster damage. Surge bug is a blessing in disguise. 
Purge you should run BB generally
I can't really help with Purg/duel sword advice. But for general advice, I would say try everything out using grey rolled items and see what feels good
spam it if enemies are at a distance/spread out
assail staggers specials in addition to dinking their health, unless it's the mutant
And conveniently lines you up with force shriek and warp charges
Same feeling
so you could just spam it into specials to kill them or get a reliable stagger on them to move closer and melee them
assail still has 10 max shards, so you can be fairly lenient with just spamming it
I wouldn’t rly recommend assail with purge tbh, no anti armor unless you start messing with uncanny n stuff which is def on the advanced side
Imo atleast
if you're moderately comfortable with melee and spam dodges against melee elites, it'll be fine
Try assail with empowered psionics. But as other said, if you want purgatus staff maybe BB is the way
I could use another staff
I have a decent surge, and a decent trauma
i have the silly shockwave trauma
im just not great at placing it
Surge spam with flaming shriek is pretty straight forward. Focus on killing ranged mobs if you are running pubs.
Surge staff 
In terms of ease of use surge and purge are the easiest
Not that any of the staves are particularly hard
I recently got Void with surge blessing, and it's great and all, but I'm still on ranged mob duty, so it's like.... operating at 30% potential.
Might as well surge unless my friends come back to the game
I found that if I don't kill the ranged guys in pubs, I can't rely on them being dead, so I have to do it myself anyway
I’ve been trying out empowered smite and wow, so much more shit than warp charge
The UX is terrible with it
Push a burster with left click? Burn a charge
Sometimes I just let the stray ones go and watch my teammates get shot in the back and go down.
Why would you use empowered smite kekw
Just to feel something.
Spend a charge starting and ending
Lmao
Smite is good, I wanted to see if it was more gooder with empower
Now if only I could stop switching between Dueling 4 and Illisi every game
Turns out it’s better to feed shriek warp charges
I'll try see if someone has a surge build post 15
Yep it’s incredibly easy to play and super effective
Well uh… you got your answer
It's the same, just add true aim if you want.
Never know if you don’t try things 🤷♀️
But as a warning to the herd: empower is straight ass
anyone have a zappy build?
Between the masks and face tattoos, I haven't noticed the smugness. I am going to pay attention more. 👀
Empower is good for anything that isn’t smite
Which is ironic considering it’s the keystone directly below it
Take any perk that gives you fire and then grab all the smite goodies, shriek and warp charges
You should also grab the usual suspects
I actually dropped lightning storm and enfeeble
Right side warp charges
I dont really like SMITE smite, i meant like... surgey surge
"Smite goodies" are terrible lmao
complete waste of points on an already sterteched tree, esp if you are getting true aim.
Meh, I think the left one is good but the right one is poo
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9abd783c-ed9f-491f-b714-745fa55cd5de
This is what I'm currently using
I never use left click
So pointless for me
and just Surge everything to death while shrieking
Guess you don’t know about shoving bursters
Smite augments are kinda mid since EP bug got fixed
I might honestly trade the point in smite out for BB
Surge already shoves bursters lmao
I barely use it
you take the +1 chain for True Aim
It doesn't work for non left clicks.
that's Enfeeble
Take the damage warp charge perk over the peril reduction imo
I have plenty of toughness gen already
There's literally no difference on right click if you take the +1 jump or not 🤷♂️
BB is very solid but imo better with trauma than surge stick
Or void
Or a gun even
🤷♀️
IMO surge stick only good if you want to peril up for shriek
another is EP
I honestly don't know how people play without BB when using anything but the void staff
another is DD
and I guess guns
:/
left click goes brr
Yeah that's fair
I’m shrieking fire on things constantly and smiting them to make em fall over
can't if you also want psykinetic aura
Yeah that’s the rip
Problem is surge stick is ass still so you would have zero value from it if you’re not looking for fast peril gen
thoughts on which is preferable? i'm pairing this with a purge staff
A S S
It’d be nice if it was less ass
Not void. Just shoot the bastards
Gun is rlly good but sometimes maybe not gun?
i'm thinking of going with the one on the right for now
I like smite with void
I really wanna see the gameplay of people who say surge is ass, it's ridiculous, you one shot ranged mobs with an insta charge. You can literally charge straight at shotgunner and gunner groups.
For when ragers want to kiss me
Uh have you tried dueling sword
like it helped me do this on a pub auric carnival so it's not too bad, you know
what melee do you pair with surge?
The damage output is meh compared to a Columbus IAG or a void stick with surge blessing
I think surge staff is p trash but
Go Deimos
i have a great one atm, just expanding options
Horde clear, so illisi or claw
Illisi it is!
Yep
Technically the caxes work too
Why
DPS on a target dummy? 100% agree. DPS in an actual game?
Caxes are horde clear as well
Caxes kinda better for zealot. Even with BM/head taker
Yeah but psyker has better options that fit more
speaking of deimos, i just realized i got this purple off a mission drop. that's the optimal stat spread, no?
In any actual game the Columbus IAG is gonna blow out the surge stick
If you have other horde options that you are running with surge, like smite + creeping flames, you have more "freedom" in your melee options.
Void sucks in habs or other twisty corridor shit
In any actual game you’ll have a zealot running 40 meters in front of you killing shit as they spawn
Not if I’m sg/dd, that bitch will be chasing me
Zoomker
lol where, most zealots in my games eat dirt
Eh I tend not to thing about pug players tbh
The pug psyker blows themself up, the pug vet can’t melee
it's a gun so as long as you're moderately aggressive, it prob be in your sightline
Pug ogryn only rp’s and plants his shield doing nothing
Damage and finesse then first target are your most important stats for deimos.
how's it compare to the one i already have then?
I’d play with you guys to show how skillful I am with my braindead zealot build but I never find the time to uh
I wish surge staff had the surge blessing
did they just drop the bomb in the teaser that ||zola’s a big meanie??||
The more I play zealot the dumber I become tbh
I hope so
Like @spice veldt talks about bullet magnetism
||g e n e s t e a l e r||
What you already have is better. You can change blessings and make it even better.
He clearly has not seen me miss 4 shots in a row on a gunner with the revolver
🙂
I didn’t think they’d do it in the teaser of all things lmao
Ayyy we're gettin our potions back lads
woooo
Give us ammo lockers too
Excited to see what kinda effects the stimms have
hopefully there will be a good amount of them
I also find it funny they were hinting at such a thing with the very character interactions
spread throughout a mission
finally, I shall rid myself of the "save everything until the last moment" habit
Here's the thing, I dont think they're gonna be mission-based
Actually
Isn’t the whole lore for this mission segment about how the stims are being used to spread the plague
FS told us what the stims do
The teaser image says "equip". What's more, hallowette has gotten involved saying she's "Laid claim to anything fit for consumption".
So why the fuck are we just popping em
Steal the formula, clean it up from poopoo, bingo
Too get high. We are rejects tasked with killing chaos spawns
Speaking of chaos spawns. If you edge peril, you can stunlock one with critstrike build
Feels good man
this is about as perfect of a perk/blessing roll as you can get, no?
i bought a melk item for the uncanny strike, but aside from that i didn't have to grind much for this
not 370+ = sell for dockets
saves time and recources for other more important shit
those are a myth
also i don't play auric so idgaf
Being a min max meta slave isn’t just about playing auric
A true gamer is a min max meta slave
EVEN IF HE ONLY PLAYS SEDITION
narrow minded take but ok
stupid opinion but ok
only thing left for end game in this game is gear crafting and min maxing
Min max
Fuckin' A
brings a tear to my eyes
😂
Low Blast Radius meta
With dump stats a 350 can be great

you just need some faith and hope and belief in your heart to use a staff like that
LMB spam has better horde clear. 😭
Ogryn is so brain dead rn
You literally regen infinite toughness it’s wild
Idk how that slipped thru
Yo can someone send me a picture of what’s for sale in the Commodores this rotation
For Psyker specifically
I wanna see this rotations
Drip
this seems like a decent roll, but i regret not having many blessings for Fords
A true gamer is someone who realises the absurdity of gaming. But enjoys it regardless

i just got slaughterer 4, should i just replace superiority with it?
So you sell 369s?
yes
Heresy
Shee crackhead gameplay continues
I pity the one who do not let their weapons blossom into true potentials
What worth be a good grey role, when the perks themselves reject it
Wait why did I get pinged for this? What am I watching?
His scrier surge ani cancelling bs
Update????
New weapon marks, better have forcestaff marks copium
i love drugs
i sure hope so
Wait I haven't watched the video
woo new psyker melee before psyker force staff
new 2h anims :D
Yeeebwoiii
Which trailer
In part 1
Oh
You can see the hooded weirdo with a new sword
hmm
this is in my melk shop
That's pretty good
beat this hehehe
btw should i change deflector to executor?
Executor is super janky
i'd change both perks instead
huh
deflector is pretty good at least
ya thats wat im doing
executor too right?
not really
uncanny is different because it gives an absurd amount of rending
but executor isn't nearly as close in power level
what should I change the perks to? maniac and flak? or maybe carapace?
my main weapon will be voidstrike/surge
i usually see maniac and unyielding
Uncanny unstable is fine enough
since deimos is best at stabbing large men
Yea maniac to get mutant 1 shot
You don't need flak because most elites die 1 shot anyway
Probably except ragers
yes but then carapace?
Unyielding helps against bosses
Carapace not needed because they die fast enough either way
And they aren't really a priority target
But it's an alternative, maniac/carapace/unyielding
Maybe you can find your own combo vs crushers with +cara
Guys I'ma be real we are probably not getting shit in terms of staffs
kill him
I already set my expectations too high by expecting new weapons and not just marks.
I'm just trying not to disappoint myself
the voice change with the new head piece for the weekly cosmetic goes so hard
it's going to be the only thing i wear for melee psyker
Are there any clips of the voice modulator on any of the female Psykers?
Ne - - - REDACTED: Expl - - - ola - - - disp - - - at - - - orr - - - 
I believe this says new forcestaff on the way


100%
Is obscurus ever worth running?
If you are bored of Deimos yea
Which one?
Should be an easter egg to randomly fire your staff shot from your head when using that.
Fun fact, your staff projectiles already do fire from your head.same with your guns
Man oh man am I so glad that item on Steam just sold so I can buy this-
so i got this knife, and i love how zoomy it makes me, but i feel like i only half get the way to use it properly, any pointers?
what is the base crit chance of a voidstrike staff?
I always forget how different the game actually is until I use third person.
you can spam push attack really easily thanks to how fast we start regerating stamina as psyker so you can use that to get out of sticky situations or stagger enemies that are attacking you
the punch is okay, it seems to give you a fast h1 without needing to hold the button (but you did have to punch)
also heavy attacks can lunge you forwards for extra mobility
just chain heavies for mobility, or one of them?
always aim for the head, especially with uncanny
lemme check rq
it might apply to H2 to but i honestly can't tell
it definitely applies to H1 though
5% I believe
im not the best player but i do use knife fairly often
at least what it seems like to me is that h1 gives the best lunge but it also slows you down at the end of the lunge
so what i usually do is lunge, wait for the animation to almost finish, then slide to cancel the slow
saves stamina too
Psyker is 7.5% base crit, so that.
but if someone else here has more actual technical knowledge of exactly how it works, listen to them instead
0, technically. Psyker is at 7.5.
Psyker has innate 7.5% crit
I'm back to running Warp Charges
Disrupt Destiny just makes me throw games for some reason lol
so with a voidstrike with nexus and 5% crit chance perk I think the maximum crit chance i can reach is around 40?
If you don't manually reset your targets sometimes you overextend yourself
Don't forget 5% node
wait how do you manually reset the DD target
yes i included that
I think it's largely because they're a big visual distraction
Look away for 5 seconds 
It's really dumb but yea
It also makes me do stupid things like throwing a full voidstrike into a bruiser instead of the 3 maulers coming for me 
the multiple specialists in a horde: threat factor 0.1
the single bruiser somewhere in the middle: 1.0
For this build, should I go with perfect timing talent or mettle? also, pls lmk if you have any other suggestions to the talent tree
Is First Target the dumpstat for Illisi?
Perfect timing is great always
idk if i'd ever run a crit build without both perfect timing and mettle
switch off of warp expenditure instead
mettle could be great if im spamming left click attacks on staff tho right?
ye i guess
warp expenditure is 25% toughness for generating an entire bar of peril
which is... really poor
Warp expenditure even less so because it doesn't even give speed
i mostly want it for the toughness so then it synergizes with the crit evasion talent so i can keep shooting, regain toughness, kill the enemy
Trauma blaze will fill your toughness right up
It adds up per enemy that was crit
With void, you just want soul stealer
i'm pretty sure mettle also triggers twice from surge blessing procs
It does?
I tested in meat grinder
I see, but needing to test in grinder means it isn't super obvious 
Spawned 20 gonks with no talents period. No amount of crits gave me toughness
altho, couldnt soulstealer be better since i am using a voidstrike? idk tho not sure
Added only mettle and filled me right up when I crit
I see, but you would get that from soulstealer
warp expenditure is just not great in general
I'd you edge at 80 peril, it means you are getting 5% per cycle
Might as well not have it
meant to type soulstealr
True lol
soulstealer is insane
You want perfect timing
if you drop mettle, you can't take perfect timing
So mettle is just tax
ah tru
For void, I like expend more than mettle, since I need one of them. Sometimes having that constant little toughness gen staves off the ranged toughness drain.
but still better than warp expenditure i suppose
Mathematically, expenditure sucks, but in practice it feels different to me. Probably just crazy.
mettle also works with a gun
Maybe it's the vet with their weird toughness talents
I remember an old game had it's beta testers complain about how one weapon was better than other by a lot. The weapons were identical in performance, just had different sound and design.
And the "better" weapon had such higher K/D ratios and stuff
Sounds like beta testers alright ayo gottem
Mettle gives speed tho yes?
So what I'm saying is, if you run surge staff without thunder hammer on it, you'll probably think it's not that good.
But with thunder hammer, it's OP
mettle does give speed
and it's tangibly noticeable
stacking mettle, scrier's speed, and DD speed is really funny
Oh mettle is great, but on void....
It's practically gone by the time you are moving.
there's also a really big difference if you're strafing and doing left clicks
Also works for melee too
Feeling pretty good about this one.
good staff!
not when u spamfire with warp nexus on the staff
Thanks! I am thinking of putting unyielding on it so I dont feel so useless against monstrosities.
So, I got a surge staff. What use is it build wise?
Like you shoot lighting and that's cool
but beyond that, it crits a lot?
4s is a very short buff on such a slow staff 🤷♂️
Neither options are great anyways.
by spamfire i mean left click
left click spamfire is good with surge blessing
2x crit dmg
i think all staffs have the same crit values. But yes, you do want to build it to crit
are u a new player btw?
nah, but most of my hours are either in vet/Zel or before the new skill revamp
ok, if youre not lvl 30 then i wouldnt worry about it. If you are, best perks are flak dmg and crit chance
and best blessings are warp flurry and warp nexus
Flak, unarmored is meta atm.
A couple of things!
- It does great single target damage and can crit a lot.
- It stuns a single target and 1 additional enemy. They secondary enemy takes a fraction of the damage, but it is stunned. This is a great method for minor control.
- Warp Nexus and Warp Flurry on a high "Damage, Charge Rate, and Critical Bonus" roll mean you can spam it every second. This synergies with Empathic Evasion ( A critical hit makes you dodge against ranged for 1 second.)
- It requires no aiming and the lightning bolt homes in on targets as you wave it across the screen. This is GREAT for killing hounds and trappers that surprise you.
5% Crit chance doesn't do much given the crit chance is already so high.
few things changed from back then then for the staff meta blessings then
Yes, cause of limb targeting, you want unarmored, flak, so you still one shot shotgunners for example.
Me personally, I prefer carpace.
surge aimlock is so gas
u just do a 360 and hit the trapper coming from ur blind spot
uh dont you already one shot all the unarmored enemies with surge?
It's so if you hit the limb of a shotgunner and get an unarmored proc. Is my understanding.
yes and if u dont, u reap the rewards of the flak dmg perk. So why unarmored dmg?
🤷♂️ I'm just saying what the meta is around here and in the pin I believe. I don't run flak/unarmoared like I said.
It's to hedge your bets
to make sure you one shot em
As for 5% crit, that's never really good. Crit is additive with itself. So if you already have like 30% crit, 5% more is marginal in this scenario.
If your last surge hits arm, you don't kill
So you need unarmored
Or don't need but it would be good for consistency
Yeah, but then you just target another shotgunner, and the offshot finishs him off, combustion starts chaining, boom 10 dead shotgunners.
Overall, its a fantastic staff and can be used in a lot of different builds. Personally, I like to lean into the crowd control more and play a Smite build.
I run a Duel IV with Maniacs so I can shred Mutants as they are the only thing that really gives me trouble.
eh idk bout that
It's just mathz
No perfect timing on surge is a pass for me.
i dont feel like 5% is marginal cause when ur getting attacked by several crushers you wanna make use of your crits to kill em
augmenting smite is pointless, you can save a point there
battle meditation just makes it more difficult tog et to max peril for shriek flame
i just tested it, you also hit the shotgunner unarmored breakpoint with 6 warp charges at high peril
but that's kinda risky lol
another point there, that gives you mettle/expenditure and perfect timing
uh oh stinky!
how so
need both full warp charges and high peril to get the 1shot without unarmored
how high peril we talkin
Personally I don't think it is, just target the shotgunner next to him and surge offshoot will kill him.
not always gonna meet both reqs
but yeah just fire another shot lol
no problem when ur running -6% peril generation per warp charge
nope
will keep than generation nice and low
personally i wouldnt spend 2 points on vent when running surge staff
I've been running a true aim surgestrike smite build that absolutely dumpsters auric damnation
you want to keep those warp charges
share share
Yeah, that's what I run.
if anything, run crit aura and shield so u can help out your team in sticky situations
Smite flaming shriek is just dumb. And surge just pairs so well with it.
yes, share pls 🤓
dodge
Crouch
Just a little gremlin, squatting in the corner, shooting lots of lightning.
gremlin
why do u want to pair smite with flaming shriek? isnt that reduntant? smite is all the horde control u need so why even use the vent at all? you just lose ur warp charges
fire vent kills everything you're smiting
current. I could likely give up PC and get the 6th warp charge but the tactile feedback of watching soulfire come up when I hit a special is giving dopamine currently
my friends do that lol
Venting kills an entire entrenched position of shooters
Thanks for the suggestions! I take the Smite augment cause I maximizing smite uptime and potency. I rarely Shriek because I am wanting to keep my warp siphons at 6 at all times. I use it only when necessary to prolong Smite, clear a massive horde with Creeping Flames, or save my butt if I am exploding. Battle Meditation lets me hold Smite on a horde for DAYS at Warp Siphon 6.
Flaming Shriek smite is for when you need to delete the entire map. It also extends your current smite cast.
There's no competing with that in the whole game 
huh
To be clear, you should be using surge like 90% of the time. Smite is a oh shit "Mapus Deletus" button.
You'll also get back all your warp charges almost certainly.
hmmmm
Assuming you aren't just smiting a pure poxwalker horde like a dunce.
Shriek goes through walls. You can literally melt through the map.
wait are u running the 10% warp charge regen node ?
i dont gamer like that
The extra chain only happens on left click. charged smites don't benefit from it. You'll have your charges back before hte last enemy is done dying from shriekfire so no worries there either. Smite also shouldn't be held for too long, just enough to get them on their ass when you let go
Sometimes, but usually no.
just for some optimization tips
a lot of stuff doesn't check for LOS for some reason
no shooting thru walls shite, i play propah
but i'm not complaining
I got confused, I never run that.
I thought you meant battle meditation for some reason.
Fellas:
To be clear, when I say smite flaming shriek deletes the whole map, I mean literally everything but crushers.
with combustion of course
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Oh! I didn't know it only affected the Left Click. You are right, that is pointless.
What stats on your Surge Staff do you prioritize?
Honestly, surge is kind of balanced, I wouldn't upgrade anything below 370 for a surge.
Flak/unarmored and warp flurry and nexus blessings
I prefer reaching warp rider and warp nexus faster
Trying out a low warp resist isn't a bad idea though, just to see if you like it.
I did that for my first good Surge roll. I don't recommend it. Things felt so much better when I rolled one with high WR.
hmm i havent used my surge in a while
should probably change off crit chance on it
Another way to think about it, because smite and flaming shriek are constantly ticking, you are more likely to get the elite kill from your team and therefore set off a periolous combustion chain.
mines at 80 damage/crit bonus, 76 quell and 68 charge/resist
The grind for the perfect Purge staff is real
its good enough for Auric mael
Agreed, but it's worth a try if you have the staff.
I JUST WANT 80% ON ALL STATS BRUNT
this is mine rn
i am a big fan of it
dang
Question do you psykers have a god complex?
yes
Yes
yes
this is your surgestrike build right?
yes
Thurge Staff is the best psyker staff.
@henks this is my surgestrike build
If I can fire flames of destruction out of my finger tips I think I’m entitled to god-hood
yes
i played a game like 20 minutes ago where as soon as we extracted, two of my teammates started yelling slurs at each other and saying that they each carried the mission
yeah
Were they both in 3rd and 4th place?
Yes.
that's why i have a god complex
i have a hooligan hoolicomplex
what is soulfire?
these two were the ones yelling slurs at each other
when I'm reviving a vet in the middle of 19 ragers and tanking everything with KD, I feel unstoppable
I love killing one guy with a shotgun and watching the chain reaction of everyone lighting on fire after everyone begins dying
blue flames
what is more useful for your team, seer's precense or kinetic precense?
i heard some slurs i havent heard in years it was WILD
oh so you were the other Psyker I met in a consignment yard game yesterday night
West Coast?
yeah west coast
damn I need to meet these people
oh were you the gunker
ye
i was playing traum and i made a gunker build after that game lmao
Seer's is one of the best Aura's in the game.
who asked for braced revolver
please be for realsies i live under an ogryn rock🥺
das me
hahaha that's pretty funny
@untold widget Why dont u run quitetude for surgestrike build? the vent will be super useful for regening it
that team was really good
probably mostly you though lol
true!
5 shot bracer lets gooo
because the next void that goes out murders 2500 things at 7.5% per
I hope the reload is better..
why would it be

I wonder how bad the inaccuracy will be
same clip size
imagine the worse, now think that it cant be worse, but it can
yeah but in a panic situation or when ur overwhelmed u cant murder that many things. I think if u have time to set up those shots then u probably dont need toughness in that moment
but ey if it comes with unique blessing
Is there gonna be a two-handed Chain-axe?
I'm not overwhelmed lol. I control everything with smite and then nuke
maybe headshot refund bullet
chain greataxe 👀
hmmm
people rave that but unlikely, and even more unlikely that its for psyker
If same mark means same blessing

thats true, then they wont add a new blessing
also they gonna add a new shovel
If smite is stacking up too much, its smite vent nuke
yay
Watch us get like a fucking big ass hammer for some reason
Shovel for psyker 
psyker needs a force boulder on a piece of rebar
is this shovel gonna be accessable for everyone
like the spacewolf librarian
Force shovel
fukin stormbreaker
isnt lacking battle meditation kinda yikes tho?
smite builds true aim, true aim proc's surge. its a positive feedback loop of violence
if they give us a force shovel i want its special attack to be a boomerang throw
I play surge/smite completely differently. Smite spam doesn't do that much in my opinion. Use for only insanely high density. Some games I might not even use it in more than 5 encounters.
idk i just always see it recommended
well I also have Transfer peril on the staff
so
I don't need it
where are u getting your crits from then
true aim guarantees crits
huh
but on an actual note
are we gonna be able to use this shovel
oh shit
or is this still vet specific shovel
smite does that?
its actually stupid
half a second on a full horde
dang
might not work as well on non-HISTG aurics due to lower enemy density
to be fair
but yeah I evaporate rooms at a time at full tilt
is transfer peril a must for this build?
no
my ogryn shovelstaff slaps the heresy right out of them
its just locked in on my staff and I haven't made another
what would u run if you could choose anything else
just spam fire and u evade ranged enemies while killing them faster
crit chance is good for fast firing things like left click spam
I had a version of this with empathic evasion but I just full peril shriek gunners now
The shovel will cost 40 dollars
nothing can shoot me if everything is dead
like at 4 warp charges and 85% peril, a true aimed full charge one shots crushers if you hit the weakspot
I've cleared a line of them in a hallway once or twice
with one fucking go
talk about god complex
if they patch out smite procs true aim then I'm fucked though lol
what is PC?
perilous combustion
ah
killing taggables give fire
how would u do that
fire make brain happy
and why would u give that up?
in the build?
ye
for the extra 2 warp charges
oh so you mean that you go left side instead
drop PC and take the 15 toughness after perfect timing instead
then drop left side 15 toughness and take warp 6
like I said
when you dump a voidstrike into a mixed horde and then they light on fire, you know that the elite inside is dead
I love surge
exactly, therefore no need perilous combust
yes they do? from the vent
warp charges is also free dmg
but its less noticable
no visual feedback that it's working
less dopamine
but go for it, get that extra 8% damage
I shouldn't need to 
yeah cause if i have that i can be at a lower peril to kill big dudes
and need to charge staff less
therefore faster shooting
prefer that tbh
and also less peril generation
and faster vent again
i think the tradeoff is worth it personally
its actually like maybe a second faster
but i havent tried it yet, we'll see
ill take every second i can get, and plus, less peril gen
less time spent quellihng
more time spent killing
might be worth if you dont take transfer peril on the staff
ye i dont
the only possible hole im seeing in this build is that you are more vulnurable to ranged enemies
we dont have emphatic evasion, nor quietude to get toughness back when getting shot up
i guess vent can deal with ranged well tho
yep
I do have a confession though
I run knife with this, for the speed
hides from shame
do you use any toughness regen perks for ur build?
soulstealer and mettle
thats heresy if ive ever laid eyes on it
speaking of curios
what u use
1 wound, two 3 stam all with block efficiency, combat ability regen, and ally revive speed
my hard carry loadout
wtf why u need stamina? for icky knife stuff?
sometimes I tank DH's
do u really want combat ability regen when u have warp charges?
if peril goes up too fast I can stam tank until it quells
again, I shout every 15 seconds
you talking about blocking?
"DH"?
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for sure
Yeah. so tanking a DH with kinetic deflection is less easy after they patched out non-force weapons auto quelling. if you block every hit you'll eventually critical out on peril, at whcih point stamina takes over. after criticaling peril though, it bursts down by like 15%, at which point you can vent towards your friends who are likely dealing with everything else and clear that out
then they can come deal with the host
How do you use smite efficiently?
I mean between lmb and rmb

Personally a brain obliterator enjoyer
i just played a match where i accidentally blasted a sleeping demonhost in lights-out and aggro'd it onto me and i did this the whole time
i went down when it was almost dead and they killed it before it killed me

Question for you my friend. You mentioned that Increased Range Crit wasn't useful and recommended unarmored and flak. Why did you say ranged crit wasn't important? I am asking in regards to this staff.
I was planning on replacing Ranged Damage ( Elites).
Just get used to ONLY using LMB and you will be fine. RMB is useless. Honestly, I wish they would change the interaction for RMB entirely. Would be nice to do single target damage with it or something.
i recommend you maniac damage
its crazy
Flak + Maniac ftw
Haha, funny you would say that. I was thinking about doing that initially cause I maniacs were messing me up. But I recently got myself this sword and have been using it to demolish maniacs in a single dodge.
i normally one shot flak or they burn to death normally^^
So with that in mind, I was thinking about going with Flak since I still wanna shred gunners with Surges.
Strange, normally you'd need Flak to hit Gunner one shots "consistently"
I say "consistently" because of the body part targeting bug
yep agree
Finesse damage would be what? weakspot modifier?
is the shredder autopistol good on gunpsyker?
Not anymore
Yeah, its Weakspot.
Vraks Mk III Headhunter, Laspistol, Revolver, or Columnus Infantry Autogun are what Gun Psykers use now
or you can meme with a Recon Lasgun
what changed?
if you get dumdum and infernus, the reconlas is fun
Did I say that?
Laspistol >
Pinning Fire is kill 
They deaded it
and now everyone sees how shit Shredder is on it's own
Yeah it's better on Laspistol, but it's doable in Reconlas too
especially after all enemy HP pools were bumped in Patch 13
aww that sucks
😭
for the laspistol it's doing great with infernus and Dumdum on my zealot
If you get the full auto mod, it's even better
Flak + Maniac
DumDum + Fire Frenzy
Jesus, people are actually like "I can't click multiple times, actually"
ill try rolling for a decent one
Oops! You are right. I am high as fuck and thought you had said it. It was another guy who said :
"As for 5% crit, that's never really good. Crit is additive with itself. So if you already have like 30% crit, 5% more is marginal in this scenario."
I don't think I agree though as I really wanna crit to trigger all the crit talent goodies as often as possible.
You are also probably used to games where crit is double damage
🤷♂️ This is not one of those games.
Unless it's Void. But void relies on true aim. But there is a better argument for 5% crit there.
I am not so much interested in the Crit Damage as much as I am in a higher chance to trigger Mettle, Perfect Timing, and Empathic Evasion.
Carpal tunnel syndrome:D
which one is better? i hit the breakpoint for the burn @78% but bricked on the perks
Right
Nah, you shouldnt have to hurt yourself to reach your peak DPS, thats not the fault of the user, thats on Fatshark for designing weapons which ask for an inordinate amount of work from the user
See; MKIV Lasgun
I think that's why some people use the +5% on a laspistol and the columnus iag (with scryer and all the crits nodes)
shrimply check the durability bar of your fingers and tendons
Yo can someone post the new Psyker outfit from the commodores?
Its ass, you're not missing much
(At work but about to clock out is why I ask)
Show me the damn outfit
That would require me to log in, and i really cant be arsed at the moment
Dumbledore said calmly
Slander
Can someone please post it
It looks like an elephant with radiation poisoning

Ok harsh
no (I'm on the bus to home)
Your allowed to have your opinion but damn
So mean
Love me some armored Psyker clothes
The wings do look a little goofy ill admit
But i like the rebreather voice change and the eyes/chest piece
If it was a smooth helmet without wings, it'd be pretty cool, but i just cant get behind how weird it looks
Like that Zealot helmet?
Yes
Mosquitowear
Still buying it lol
Yeah thats fair
Honestly a fan of the whole wings thing
Im a sucker for full helmets/psyker tube stuff
They have the duellist hat for the tube haters
That ones good too
But only because it fits the Psyker “Stand out as much as possible” style
Cuz lets be honest
If THAT doesn’t make them stand out
I dunno what will-
It is fair to say Psyker has an issue, much like Zealot, with getting a lot of sets of fancy pajamas
Emperors robocop tho 👌
Aye that was a cool set, i use that helmet on my shouty
Hard pushed to use anything but the blue robes or OG penance armour on Psyker tho
THE FUCK IS THAT GUN?

How should I go about trying to complete cliffhanger?
The one where you use shriek to push enemies off?
When ever I get things close to a ledge they just sit on the tip
Smite
make em laugh
make em feel comfortable
then be gentle and spit on it if you have to
I'm using smite and shreik
it's good?
it'll fit
Yeah that's pretty good
i got the blessings by chance
I don't have the Tier 4 versions of them so i just changed the perks
Two of the best
Yeah I got it from melk
Anyone got a decent Scrier's Gaze build? I know its great with a gun-psyker but I can't seem to make it work with anything and I want to try soemthing other than Smite and Assail
With melk his stuff is pretty hit or miss with emphasis on miss
Yeah but u can get lucky
I got most of my top tier blessings just checking at sundown each day and immediately dropping on the t4s I was after
melk is a blessing vendor nothing more
it sucks to do but punish yourself into building up like
ten thousand melk marks
so you have an immediate purchase pad of one, maybe two
he gets a lot less of a bummer when you can just sit back and scan for instamelts
perks for the dueling sword?
if you're not a degenerate loot goblin like I am and always broke buying gear you can force your pretty stat base weapons with coins and brunt
also the other ideal way to get t4 blessings
drop an amount on a set of whatever weapon you want the blessings for, and consecrate them just to blue
What’s the delay before Peril begins passively quelling, guys?
I’m away from my PC, so I can’t test, but I need the number
blessing tier range is based in part on the item base stat
so if you have an idk 365+ weapon you stand like a thirty percent chance of getting a t4
some blessings are a lot more common to get than others
so for those, you watch melk
keeps your expectations in check and tidy so you're not just punching holes in the wall cuz of melk or harrow bricking your shit every day
and bam, in a month your sticker book's 80% with all the ones you need
(I have ground out an indian landfill sized amount of gear)
anyway, grog's talkin, Unc Ok out
You need to edit a staff to have the colum mk 5 or the revolver on the end of a staff for a meme
What?
hold please
It’s 4am, I just need answers
like a few seconds. dont know the exact number
I just got the idea for a force melee weapon with a force parry, readying it builds peril and does an AOE burst like shriek or a stronger force weapon push when it lands
about 3 seconds
I want more parry weapons and a special warp one would be great
btw that lil tricksy of intentionally using smite to bounce off of max peril for the immediate quelling head start
yall get that one for free
what about a gun that uses peril instead of ammo
behold
would kinda work similar to the plasma gun but like also not
holy
Wheres the barrel
the gun is actually only millimeters long
at the end of the ground contact
the entire thing is the barrel
and you can't tell me something that stupid doesn't already exist in the 40k canon lol

exactly 3 seconds from the frame your peril increases to the frame it starts draining, assuming you're playing vanilla
that may differ with staff decay boosts
Cheers
this was with a blitz out
swhy I used smite
Nah, they don’t affect the delay iirc
Just the manual Quell and the passive Decay rate
ah so just once it gets going
not like toughness regen reducing the delay before your bar starts coming back
yknow when I got this borderline ridiculous shriveled hand trinket I had no idea it'd end up on like a third of every weapon I have
it's so off putting
and hilarious
also... new fanning technique for the revolver. Cant wait to use mow down crushers even faster
grovy
Does everybody already know that the Deimos force sword's H2 knocks ogryn on their ass if you headshot?
a lot of people here do at least
Okay. I hadn't played with it yet so it was a surprise to me lol
l1->h2 is the usual strat for stabbing large men
Yeah, seems to work pretty well. Neat!
its the best

