psyker-class

[quasi junco]

i run smite on void builds, just for instant CC for revives or whatever

[lethal lagoon]

Why assail hordes when you can smite flaming shriek the entire map

[potent echo]

Because you are allowed to have a blitz

[clear finch]

Rate my staff stats(it is almost max upgraded but I don’t have a image of that)

[sudden trellis]

what capstone to go for if you're going Smite, fellas? I've maybe played it thrice total

[patent hatch]

Psionic I'd be running

[lethal lagoon]

peril reduc on warp charges is nice

EP smite is a meme but fun

[frozen osprey]

My build shameless stolen from yt
It's been really fun for me but you oughta experiment some yourself maybe you'll find a change to better suit you

[lethal lagoon]

Only youtube would be dumb enough to recommend smite tree talents 😆

[sudden trellis]

what loadout do you run with it, chief?

[vague chasm]

I'm about to try gun psyker for the first time, honestly I barely ever used lasguns and autoguns in general. What are some of your personal favuorites for this play-style?

[frozen osprey]

I mean it works ive been mf booling with it

[patent hatch]

Melee Psyker is the hidden subclass of gun psyker

[lethal lagoon]

They only work on left click not right click

[sudden trellis]

infantry autoguns. those things hit like a perc 30

[patent hatch]

Shredder Autopistol is my personal fav when it comes to ranged weps

[spice veldt]

the columnus IAG in particular, because of the 4-shot crit string

[frozen osprey]

Surge with flak crit chance warp nexus and flurry, any melee works its personal preference, id get sonething for bosses its the only real weak point

[vague chasm]

Lucky for me I have an illisi I love

[frozen osprey]

Wdym

[lethal lagoon]

Literally what I said, those talents only effect left click smite

[sudden trellis]

thanks, chief.

[potent echo]

That's actually not really true

[frozen osprey]

Oh fr? It seems fine to me

[lethal lagoon]

Which part?

[patent hatch]

Illis?

[lethal lagoon]

Jump definitely only works on LMB

[frozen osprey]

Anytime my friend remember to have fun

[sudden trellis]

now I just gotta figure out when to bust out Smite as opposed to just melee.

[potent echo]

It does affect rmb, but you need to channel for longer to see the effects

[vague chasm]

the mk5 blaze force sword

[potent echo]

But in practice its about the same lol

[frozen osprey]

I use surge on shooters and elites/specials and smites on hordes until theyre thinned out enough to clean up elites

[vague chasm]

If it was a joke that flew over my head sorry

[patent hatch]

Oooooh

[vague chasm]

Imma try, thanks

[patent hatch]

Rapier my beloved

[frozen osprey]

I gtg now but good luck @sudden trellis! Happy hunting (:

[limpid lily]

@uncut cradle, i'm just curious if you guys did sth to this particular helmet? it's not as shiny anymore?

old vs recent

[vague chasm]

fair enogh also love the mobility on those

[patent hatch]

Yeaah running a full speed build with it lmao

[uncut cradle]

I know some lighting changes were made so it might just be that!

[limpid lily]

thanks Catfish, just letting you guys know

[limpid lily]

will you let them know and ask if the team can somehow make it at least closer to how it was before?

[uncut cradle]

I can investigate for sure

[limpid lily]

I must admit, it is a LITTLE hard to look at right now xD, a bit too dark

at least on the "wings"

[limpid lily]

thank you

[severe folio]

its a very odd looking helmet to begin with

[wind halo]

Jester Psyker

[limpid lily]

my favorite helmet tbh, perhaps it is a bit goofy to others but I like some goofs

[severe folio]

astropath

[sacred crane]

wish this outfit would go back on sale

[fallen zodiac]

plz unlock all outfits FS, i want to spend money but the current stuff is uggo rn

[wind halo]

Your head will explode if you see more than 3 pages, get back in line scrub

[fallen zodiac]

BUT MY INCOMPARABLE MIIIND

[quartz barn]

Incomparable goes both ways tho, you can either see all pages or none

[fallen zodiac]

https://tenor.com/view/mind-blow-galaxy-explode-boom-fireworks-gif-5139389

[severe folio]

KILL

KILL

KILL

[quartz barn]

Yes I am truly dangerous

[severe folio]

how do you guys use the chainsword

[patent hatch]

Heavy spam

[severe folio]

what firearm do you pair it with

[patent hatch]

newm newm

[fallen zodiac]

light attack spam

[severe folio]

what build do you include it in

[plucky flax]

You can light spam. It has big cleave on light attack.

[severe folio]

thats true

[fallen zodiac]

revolver

[severe folio]

and for some reason both primary and secondary attack have the same damage indication

revolver you said

interesting

make sense

it would cover crusher problems

[fallen zodiac]

L3 and L4 are diagnols too iirc

i don't know how to spell diagnol apparently

[severe folio]

diagonal

[ocean cipher]

holy fucking shit smite is insane

[fallen zodiac]

[severe folio]

what blitz

with the chainsword

[patent hatch]

You can make a case for all 3 tbh

[severe folio]

i see

[fallen zodiac]

if you're chord+gun, prolly right side

[vapid lichen]

it's really useful but if you spam it too much you'll develop bad habits so just be careful lol

[patent hatch]

Oh if your sword and gun assail lovely

[wind halo]

Smite or Brainburst or you will get steamrolled by armor

[urban sandal]

since it's good for horde clearing you could take brain burst for the single target dps

[ocean cipher]

what habits?

also what staff should i run with smite

[wind halo]

What you mean just only using Smite the whole game is wrong? pfft

[fallen zodiac]

using it instead of doing damage too frequently

[patent hatch]

Surge

[vapid lichen]

smite spammers generally don't actually do much relevant damage and are really bad at surviving without it

[ocean cipher]

why surge

[wind halo]

Exploit, they share talent feats

[vapid lichen]

smite is really good at looking more useful than it is

[patent hatch]

Because it has high single target DPS compared to smites 0 DPS

[ocean cipher]

but its so fucking fun

[urban sandal]

using smite on things like poxwalker hordes can be a detriment to your team by starving them of toughness or just delaying having said horde being dealt with

[severe folio]

my gorgeous blade

[ocean cipher]

what do i use it on then?

[vapid lichen]

it's still really useful but picking and choosing the right moments to smite and spending time deal damage otherwise is better

smite things like, say, bulwark/crusher packs or rager packs

[patent hatch]

Elites and specials, when team mates need a rez

[urban sandal]

packs of armour/elites/specialists

having a smite psyker when no one has the tools to deal with packs of crushers and maulers is a god send

[vapid lichen]

use it to create safe space and negate dangerous enemies

but spamming it against regular grunts is kind of annoying for the rest of your team

at least melee builds usually want poxwalkers running into them for better cleave and stuff idk

[wind halo]

Watches as nobody resses while you Smite

[vapid lichen]

it's similar to the zealot book in a sense

[patent hatch]

:(

[vapid lichen]

provides on-demand safety but relies on your team to execute beyond that

[patent hatch]

This is why I run brain burst

cause kinetic flayer is cool

[wind halo]

aka highlighter build for revolver/plasma users

[vapid lichen]

smite spammers are usually there to get carried and look good doing it

[urban sandal]

bb/trauma/dclaw enjoyer

ultimate black sheep

[ocean cipher]

so smite/surge, what sword>

and how does reworked surge work

[wind halo]

it does RNG damage to single targets

with a short stun

[severe folio]

trauma pair with Dclaw is kinda odd

[ocean cipher]

also thinking of setting up BB + Trauma

[urban sandal]

dclaw is for bosses

trauma for hordes and armour, bb for specialists

[ocean cipher]

so Surge for single target, Smite for lockdown, and ilissi for hordes?

[urban sandal]

that could work yeah

[glossy ember]

yes

[ocean cipher]

i assume kinetic deflection is vital

[glossy ember]

no

[urban sandal]

nah not really

[glossy ember]

it's nice

but not vital

[urban sandal]

just nice to have if you're blocking a lot

[ocean cipher]

holy shit i just looked at psyker's left side keystone wtf is going on here

[wind halo]

have it on every build of mine

more than enough points to get it, psyker tree aint borked like vet

[plucky flax]

It's one of my must have talent but I value staying alive and solo clutch enable stuff a lot.

[vapid lichen]

even if you don't block a lot

you'll be real fuckin happy to have it when you have to block a boss or a bunch of ragers

[spice veldt]

psyker's patch 12 tree crammed into that little thang

fits 9 talent points

[ocean cipher]

whats the easiest way to get psyker's final robes?

[wind halo]

And it yeets your warp charges on ult

[severe folio]

dclaw can do fine for horde too though

[spice veldt]

I can not believe that they made quicken the default behavior for it

the most universally unpicked t6 feat

[patent hatch]

Quicken is meh

not a fan tbh

[ocean cipher]

i'm assuming 1 psyker (me) + one bullgryn + 2 skullbreakers

bullgryn pulls daemonhost aggro, i BB down DH while other 2 clear horde

[urban sandal]

I'm stuck with shred as a blessing and whether the other is rampage or savage sweep it doesn't quite perform as well as having both at once, if I had both I would use it for hordes

with SS it doesn't one shot and with rampage it doesn't hit very many

[ocean cipher]

since DH is the only boss u can effectively hard pull agro

[vapid lichen]

"yeah just put a weight on your keyboard or something and go afk in that corner while i brainblast"

[wind halo]

inb4 explode from peril

[urban sandal]

and I don't partake in the crafting system so it's gonna take 2 years to get a better one

[untold niche]

wait how come so little people have this
im not proud of it tho

[spice veldt]

people who haven't played Psyker I suppose

[rose dagger]

I didn’t get it till after the overhaul

[fallen zodiac]

two ppl is enough, really. can do it on any boss. just gotta get the bots killed

i helped a friend the other day that way

[plucky flax]

Vet is still probably the most popular class by far.

Even though the tree sucks.

I play all classes by definitely enjoy vet the least by far right now.

[untold niche]

it would be cool to have a node whereby instead of exploding and going down, you have 1hp for 1 minute
if you arent downed by then you lose half a wound without getting downed

[urban sandal]

john darktide aint a vet for nothing

[fallen zodiac]

vet male professional is the most boring option combo and yet it's everywhere

[rose dagger]

He has the best VoC voice lines

[untold niche]

i hear screaming zealot and black man psyker alot

waht is voc

[rose dagger]

Voice of command

[untold niche]

ult?

[plucky flax]

I like the cadian shout.

[rose dagger]

Yea

[untold niche]

sorry i dont play vet

[plucky flax]

Very aggressive guy.

[untold niche]

thanks

for telling me

[left hare]

Rolled a good looking 1, what to replace?

[urban sandal]

for CREED

[untold niche]

wouldn't that depend on if you wanna lean into non crit or crit

[left hare]

i mean i'm not rolling surge with this setup

The perks are ass

So non crit

[rose dagger]

Add nexus 4 to the book

[left hare]

😢

[rose dagger]

If you don’t have another nexus 4 weapon

[left hare]

I indeed do not

Sigh, goodbye stave

[wind halo]

Staff blessings are not shared too

[untold niche]

quick question, anyone running the (ext ext) wep customization mod?
is your fps slightly worse with it?

[rose dagger]

With visible gear and such enabled, yea

With that disabled... maybe a lil bit. Can’t really tell

[untold niche]

visible gear is when they have the guns on their back?

[rose dagger]

Yea

[untold niche]

its not enabled by default right?

[wind halo]

Its a mod setting

[untold niche]

yeah but is it enabled by default?\

[wind halo]

I can't rmb but does it matter, its pretty clear whether its enabled or not lol

[untold niche]

ah cause i only used it for a whilke, i realize my dips are worse with the mod
then suddenly i have the urge to use it again so im asking if anyone has the same issues

if not its placebo

thats why im asking

[wind halo]

well let's see

you could have the randomization feature on so you get players with random weapons that need assets loaded

or visible equipment like above

so try disabling all those in the mod settings then check your perf

[untold niche]

i see.

just a side thing

after you guys change your melee weapon how it looks
any of you the distance perception kinda messed up?

[untold niche]

thanks for this btw!

dk if its gear issue but against a horde close range o fee; i cant do anything

how do yo uhorde clear wit hds4?

how do you horde clear with ds4*

[royal pumice]

dueling sword mk4?

[wind halo]

light spam, make some space to use your staff, that the real horde clear

[royal pumice]

you kinda don't. i tried a melee build with it and it wasn't that great

[untold niche]

hmm but the clear is just like one straight line

[wind halo]

thats more than what you will do with the dueling sword

if you only use DS, the horde will take quite awhile to die

especially if they are bruisers

[untold niche]

then how do i prevent myself from getting surrounded?
esp on defence areas where multiple spawn doors

[royal pumice]

positioning

i run the same build it's certainly tricky but that's what ya gotta do with void/ds4

give yourself the best bowling alley and try to clear as much horde junk while aiming for specials/elites behind em

[untold niche]

e.g. hab dreyko (scanning near tree) theres not really a place for you to run into

[plucky flax]

Use rampage blessing.

[untold niche]

quick quesiton, what is the stamina curios for for psykers, literally to run?

[sudden trellis]

block, sprint

[wind halo]

push attack

[sudden trellis]

and I think it helps with d-claw parry

might be wrong.

[vapid lichen]

if you use something like knife or rapier you have two stamina at base

it feels terrible when trying to do anything that needs stamina

[plucky flax]

Kinetic deflection is all I need

I clutch regularly with ds4 without any stam curio.

[stuck finch]

Does focused channeling blessing even matter in tier?

[vapid lichen]

i dont think any build uses focused channeling

[stuck finch]

I mean not being interrupted is handy

[vapid lichen]

just dodge

[royal pumice]

take warp flurry instead. faster secondary charges

[sacred crane]

Kinetic deflection + deflection blessing

[untold niche]

tried voidstrike --> no explode but need quell with the original ult
change ult to gaze --> explode 4 times

does gaze end ONLY with you hit 100?

[severe folio]

yes

[bold maple]

alternatively kinetic deflection + bubble so you can ditch the shitty dodge

just slide across the map with dueling swords

[severe folio]

get smack by trapper

[bold maple]

if you’re immune to melee and ranged dmg you can focus your full attention on dodging specials

[static needle]

What does enhanced blitz give us psykers? more dmg?

less peril gen?

[bold maple]

spray em with some purg hold block and just watch them die

[plucky flax]

Less peril generation.

[severe folio]

it tells exactly what it does

[untold niche]

for gaze + voidstrike staff
at what time should i let gaze reach 100% peril to end

basically for maximum how long can i still fire one shot and not explode

[severe folio]

you shouldnt think about how long you want your scrier to stay

you should only think about how long until it ends

do not try to control it or you will blow up in trying to quell it down

[untold niche]

so don't quell? o.o

[severe folio]

you should quell

but dont be too hyper focus on keeping scrier up as long as you can

[untold niche]

its more like i dont' take notice of how fast it actually charges because the quell keeps it down xD

[severe folio]

well

just let it blend into your voidstrike

you use your staff, quell, the usual

[placid girder]

Is surge still bugged?

The one where it does less damage bc of body parts

[severe folio]

now, you just have a gauge meter that keep your peril going faster

the bug still exist

[placid girder]

Damn that sucks

[severe folio]

but they buf the damage on limbs to make it all equal

[placid girder]

Right I see

[vapid lichen]

i played a whole bunch of gunker earlier and my scrier was usually around 15-20 stacks when it ended
although i didnt bother quelling it lol

[placid girder]

That’s not as bad then

[severe folio]

however, it can still hit armor parts

which may affect your perks regarding hitting armors

[placid girder]

Right I see

[untold niche]

as in what happens is i don't realize i reach the threshold i cant shoot anything anymore because the peril instantly builds up
then i shoot, then i die xD

[severe folio]

well in that occasion

you just have to pay more attention to your peril build

if you notice the number going too haywire then you know the next shot gonna push it to the edge

things like that

because some people can still fire a shot just before it hit 100

i dont recommend look at how many scier stack you must have before letting it go

[vapid lichen]

realistically "some people" is always someone else
if ur not sure if ur gonna blow up then dont fire the shot

[untold niche]

its just, i get into the midst of it and then i forgot about the build up
im sure it will come with experience

[severe folio]

yes it can only come with experience

[untold niche]

with no gaze its actually pretty manageable tho ngl

[severe folio]

well ofc

with nothing to rapidly push your peril as fast as it can

you get to control the whole pace

[untold niche]

i wanted to play psyker cause 1 tap crusher and because of pubs i tend to stay at the back

but it comes with great costs

[vapid lichen]

sometimes i think about using scrier's as a toughness battery for no reason

[severe folio]

one tap crusher

thatsa revolver domain

[untold niche]

with vet, yeah.

[vapid lichen]

with the 5% quell and 2.5% generate nodes and scrier's insane peril generation speeds late in the duration

[severe folio]

well yes

[vapid lichen]

that's gotta be a lot

[severe folio]

well no

but the thing is that its a constant toughness flow

[vapid lichen]

really nice for healing toughness chip at least

[untold niche]

also everytime i get surrounded i genuinely don't know what to do

[vapid lichen]

kinetic deflection time

[untold niche]

how much stacks for gaze to make a difference threshold wise?

[vapid lichen]

like against enemy breakpoints?

[untold niche]

yeah

[vapid lichen]

depends on your damage rolls and your perks and your blessings and your warp rider peril amount and your active buffs and your crit rate/damage and your-

[ocean cipher]

trauma+bb seem like a good build idea

[untold niche]

lets say 370 rating base weapon

tier 3 blessings
unless tier 4 is mandatory.

aka serviceable a5histg weapon

[vapid lichen]

also depends on your team applying buffs or debuffs and your coherencies and your team doing chip to your target and your weapon of choice and your-

[untold niche]

uh just in psk.

i mean

[vapid lichen]

basically there is no real answer to that question

[untold niche]

theres a reason why its called breakpoints, because you dont take into accoutn chip no :v

ah

okeh

[bold maple]

just dont think about min max breakpoint and play tbh

if they dont die in 1 hit just hit twice ez

[vapid lichen]

you can test it in psykhanium right
but then that's disconnected from the one place where breakpoints actually matter, which is a real game

[static needle]

Salvageable or bricked?

[plucky flax]

Why combat axe on psyker

[sacred crane]

What weapons and abilities would a krieg psyker use

I wanna make krieg psyker build

[vapid lichen]

the pinned guide says flak/maniac/unyielding and brutal momentum/decimator for rashad

seems like turbo bricked

[viscid matrix]

Smite, Purga staff, not sure what melee

[sacred crane]

Probably the rapier with krieg skin on it

[frozen osprey]

Whatever kills the most painfully

[sacred crane]

Also what ability

[round summit]

why is it that when i play zealot i never get a psyker, but when i play psyker we are atleast 3

[sacred crane]

Also which one is purg staff

[frozen osprey]

Fire

[sacred crane]

Stinky zealot taste wizard magic

[sacred crane]

oh

THAT staff

[frozen osprey]

Yes THAT one

The rly bright one

[sacred crane]

Also would they use shield or scriers gaze?

[frozen osprey]

Absolutely scriers

Soldiers of krieg would never be cowardly enough to hide behind a shield

[vapid lichen]

family gathering

[sacred crane]

Then when home, I make krieg build (its dogshit because scriers with staff is useless 🔥🔥🔥)

[digital narwhal]

Little upset that the blues don't match tbh

[frozen osprey]

Just use the shriek its gooderer anyways

[frozen osprey]

Try the camo from the commissary maybe?

I remember it being whiter

[digital narwhal]

Nah, the light blue from the commissary is the same as the base weapon

[frozen osprey]

Damb 😔

[digital narwhal]

Fatshark should just give us all black weapon skins

[granite mauve]

need black weapon skins for the moebian sets yes

[frozen osprey]

So true black would go with anything

[granite mauve]

that's what the npc wearing those sets on the maps are holding

black weapons

[frozen osprey]

And lasguns with no sights which i always found odd

[sacred crane]

I keep feeling bad for seer psykers

Even when insulted he forgives them

[vapid lichen]

don't worry, beloved is there for them

seer doesnt need anyone else

[sacred crane]

I also found out beloved is a male which shocked me

[vapid lichen]

they're all a part of the dream anyways

beloved seems to be the emperor

well, not necessarily Actually the emperor

but certainly the seer seems to think he is

[plucky flax]

My beloved is tzeentch.

[vapid lichen]

there's a voice line where someone mentions the emperor and the seer goes "you hear that, beloved? they're talking about you" or smth like that

[sacred crane]

"Dead, poor dog"
"Thats not very nice, but I forgive you"
"Dangle. Dangle. Dangle- HELP"
"Were surrounded this isnt fair"
"I'm just trying to be a good soldier!"

[vapid lichen]

NO BELOVED, IT'S NOT A GOOD DOG

[sacred crane]

"I'm covered in blood and I don't like it!"

[vapid lichen]

yes beloved, hiding is cheating

[digital narwhal]

The Beloved is either genuinely a fragment of the Emperor's consciousness in the Warp, or a Tzeentch Daemon.
My bet? It's both.
The Seer is communicating with a fragment of the Emperor, but a Tzeentch Daemon is trying to tempt them closer to the Warp using their voice.

[sacred crane]

Probably my top 5 favorite voicelines for him

[vapid lichen]

i like how both petulant and cheerful beloved seems to be

[sacred crane]

"People think I'm creepy, do you think I'm creepy?"

I also like how seer sings something or does musical tunes

[plucky flax]

Any screeching German loner voice enjoyer?

[sacred crane]

I have a loner voice, but I made a second psyker to use seer voice as well

[vapid lichen]

sometimes my zealot starts singing in prayer and goes "no? just me?"
she's so fucking cringe and i love her for it

[plucky flax]

My psyker is called UnsanctionedPsyker and the loner voice fits perfectly. He about to be executed by daddy grendyl.

[digital narwhal]

I'm betting it's to try to stay whimsical and positive in the face of things, to avoid potential backlashes for loosening their grip on their sanity or mental state.

[sacred crane]

I like the one zealot voiceline between an ogryn where the ogryn questions something about the emperor and zealot doesnt know how to respond so tells them to "Look over there! More enemies to kill!"

[vapid lichen]

don't listen to the voices, sibling

[vapid lichen]

bone'ead implant make ogryn smarter than shouty

time to kill heretic though

more rations

[sacred crane]

Out of everyone, seer, brawler, bodyguard and loose cannon seem the nicest

[royal pumice]

feed em more Orgryn corpse-starch

[stuck finch]

"Haha I've killed so many people, good thing none of this is real"

[sacred crane]

Seers who know vs Seers who dont knoe

[vapid lichen]

i love hungry ogryn

i forget which one that is

but hes so hongry

[sacred crane]

Brawler

[vapid lichen]

"trapper down! might take a quick bite..."

"don't eat muties"

[royal pumice]

made my Ogryn have the Bully voice to hear all the train lines

[sacred crane]

Brawler: Rations and cheerful
Bodyguard: Russian-like and cracks jokes a lot and proud of himself
Bully: Mean, just mean

"Why would I do that? No one is as handsome as me!"
-Bodyguard ogryn to some random psyker

[fresh reef]

"Ya can't run trapper! You have to die! :D"

[vapid lichen]

had this voiceline earlier today

smth about ogryn hanging around the surgeon's shop

[royal pumice]

savant psyker is always questioning the ogryn why he's hanging around that shop

[vapid lichen]

is savant the enforcer psyker

[royal pumice]

like just let the man get a pedicure

yes

[vapid lichen]

yea thats the one i have

[sinful peak]

wait is the bundle out?

[digital narwhal]

Bully secretly loves people, but he doesn't like showing it

[royal pumice]

tsundere ogryn

[digital narwhal]

Like how he really appreciates one of the Zealots for mentioning they remind him of family

and Bodyguard is funnily enough the smartest of the pack, despite not even being a Bone'ead yet

but he still tries to be smarter than he is.

One such example being calling the Zealot "perpendicular" after being called smarter than others of his kind.

[vapid lichen]

i am also perpendicular

whether perpendicular to the wall or the ground depends on the time of day

[digital narwhal]

See?

Bodyguard very smart

Even the Zealot can't see it

Ogryn > Zealot

[vapid lichen]

ogryn > everyone

[night crater]

Literally

[vapid lichen]

ogryn have bigger gun than veteran
psyker need magic to burst head, ogryn just use hand
and ogryn smarter than shouty

common ogryn W

[sacred crane]

Also ogryns are on the same level as space marines

[royal pumice]

true. too bad they're not given accurate guns like the marines

[vapid lichen]

earlier i was playing my ogryn and won a 1v6 against a pack of crushers
meanwhile the vet lost the 1v1 against the 7th crusher

ogryn simply better

[sacred crane]

If you have an ogryn, you basically have a space marine on your team with weaker gear

[river dawn]

idk if i should ask this here or on ogryn class but will this ogryn aura affect mobs stunned by our smite?

[royal pumice]

smite is just a stun so i'd assume not

[round summit]

stun < supress

[twilit comet]

Does Empathic Evasion work very well (crits lets you count as dodging ranged attacks for 1 second)?

[still hearth]

Yes

If you know how to work it

[twilit comet]

so like a crit build (e.g. with sceier's gaze) could work well?

[strong gulch]

I like seer too much, but loner has the best "yes" and "no".

[still hearth]

I never run scrier but probably

[digital narwhal]

[digital narwhal]

Yes

I can attest that Scrier's Gaze Crit Build can make you nigh immune to ranged attacks if you're smart with it

[plucky flax]

Female seer is very comfy. Grandma vibe

[ocean cipher]

asked earlier, didnt see an answer: Trauma + BB a good idea?

[plucky flax]

Me when I only use left click with assail.

[strong gulch]

Love old lady voice.

[still hearth]

Naw

[digital narwhal]

It said nothing about skill floor

[ocean cipher]

why not

[digital narwhal]

[still hearth]

BB kinda sucky

[ocean cipher]

whats wrong with bb?

isnt it like, the best single hit i can get

[still hearth]

Not enough damage to justify it's long charge

[royal pumice]

BB is clutch for killing shit around DH. Worth it for that alone

[twilit comet]

Cool. Been working on a Scier gunpsyker build using the las pistol - which is surprisingly amazing

[still hearth]

Kinda clunky

[plucky flax]

Tbh if one play psyker probably it juggles between all 3 weapons. Veri cool

[still hearth]

Needs nodes to use well

[plucky flax]

But me bad so I only assail spam.

[ocean cipher]

i actually dislike assail

[digital narwhal]

Yeah, juggling between all 3 on Gun Psyker is pretty cool

[ocean cipher]

it makes psyker really boring

[still hearth]

BB isn't peepoo but it's just kinda meh to me. The only reason I pick smite is because it's 0 effort to take (no nodes) and always has a serious effect when needed

[strong gulch]

I like BB with blazing trauma + creeping flames + WS.

But it's really only for snipers, squirrely specials, and help with bosses.

[still hearth]

BB without nodes feels just like suffering

[ocean cipher]

i honestly feel like empowered bb should be able to 1 tap most things

[digital narwhal]

I like BB for Trauma simply so I have an infinite range poke for if something is too out of range for Trauma

[thorn cedar]

Smite without the +1 feels bad to me

[still hearth]

Never felt that one

[plucky flax]

Surge without +1 chain from smite

[still hearth]

It already hits like 6 base or something

[ocean cipher]

oh yeah isnt psyker the only class with smite augs

[thorn cedar]

I left click a fair amount.

They all have infinite target potential from bounces, it just speeds the process up

[ocean cipher]

cant empowered smite infinite spread?

[thorn cedar]

For left click it instantly jumps to the 2nd target

If you had infinite perils yea

[ocean cipher]

for smite i want every possible peril reduc right

[thorn cedar]

You could.

I just use it for burst CC

[strong gulch]

Smite feels fine enough for me to not take any modification nodes for it. Good thing, because WS is expensive.

[thorn cedar]

Chain everything on my way to the one blue boi and throw everyone to the ground

[viscid matrix]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158835513789272126/1178959306624872488/image.png?ex=65780a6a&is=6565956a&hm=a91e36e72c12536f9a3ec96b4468ce4369e395fea82acd6aefe575a8ca300ba3&

For some yes

Bb is still far to slow

[ocean cipher]

also smite being able to insta shutdown hounds and poxbursters is amazing

[thorn cedar]

I really only hold smite down for revives. I usually only generate maybe 30-50% perils out of it

[viscid matrix]

Letting go of smite early has that nice knock back effect

If it reaches 100% you don’t get it

[strong gulch]

Depends to be honest. On my revolver + smite + creeping flames build, smite is my only peril generation. So warp resistance ends up being a hinderance.

On a build that has a lot of peril generation, warp resistance is nice/ make warp management easier.

[shadow quail]

You can keep most hordes down on the floor forever basically if you spam cast it

[viscid matrix]

Isn’t Warp resist only on weapons, so no effect when using blitz

[ocean cipher]

what's creeping flames

[viscid matrix]

Upgrade to Vent Shriek

[ocean cipher]

interesting

i usually use dome

it just feels good

[viscid matrix]

6 stacks of burn will kill all trash and snipers

[strong gulch]

Inner tranquility from WS and minus peril generation node(s).

[untold niche]

does psyker get better at level 30 compared to 15?

[ocean cipher]

i'll have to try vshriek

[still hearth]

Yes

[echo turtle]

You don't need peril reduction for smite, it's not meant to me used for long periods of time

[ocean cipher]

yes, psyker is very reliant on their keystones imo

[viscid matrix]

That’s not warp resistance tho, it’s a seperate stat

[ocean cipher]

whats ws

[viscid matrix]

Warp siphon keystone

[ocean cipher]

neat, i 'll have to try it!

i just love telekine dome rn

[untold niche]

atm using gaze + voidstrike (and the five weakspot for 1 crit) and uh, :(
peril gen very fast, not really noticeable increased damage, can't really horde clear
its pretty much impossible to always land your shot because if someone shoots the guy he stumbles lightly and his head moves.

[ocean cipher]

being able to press f and instantly shutdown any sniper, gunner, reaper, etc

[strong gulch]

True. IDk why the feck I was calling it warp resistance.

[viscid matrix]

WS will allow permanent almost 100% uptime domes

[still hearth]

Scrier bad for staff usually. More for melee and gun

[untold niche]

but but my crusher 1 taps :v

[still hearth]

Just have Surge blessing ez pz

[viscid matrix]

Still alright to take on a staff build, just use it only when in melee

[ocean cipher]

i'll def try it

isnt empowered smite really strong tho

[viscid matrix]

Eh it’s only 125% more damage while it’s active, tbh I only use EP for assail

[ocean cipher]

only

also ep on brain burst just sounds nasty

[untold niche]

ditch gaze and take booble?

[onyx sentinel]

what are the other colours for this cosmetic?

[viscid matrix]

Go to the meatgrinder and look at the damage of smite 😉

[still hearth]

Shout, or whatever you prefer

[viscid matrix]

It’s just that colour

[royal pumice]

i have a brown one

[still hearth]

EP smite is only good to horde clear tbh

[royal pumice]

it's not just blue

[still hearth]

It does just enough to clean clumped hordes

[viscid matrix]

I don’t think it’s worth the points for a keystone and upgrades to kill hordes

[still hearth]

It can be

[onyx sentinel]

cool, was it from a set or its own separate item?

[still hearth]

Very build dependent though

[royal pumice]

separate i think. i can grab ya a pic in a sec

[shadow quail]

Much rather have more domes than smite horde clear, only cast smite on hordes to send them to the floor tbh if being overwhelmed.

[onyx sentinel]

cheers

[viscid matrix]

I can grab Purga staff and kill hordes just as quickly

Hell Illisi can kill just as quickly

[echo turtle]

125% of almost nothing is still almost nothing

[ocean cipher]

fair

[untold niche]

sorry shout is venting shriek?

[viscid matrix]

Yes

[still hearth]

[ocean cipher]

i now wanna try warp charge/venting/smite

what staves go well with smite? i can't imagine trauma is bad

[echo turtle]

It's imo the most powerful build

[still hearth]

Any

[untold niche]

can't reach shout :v

[echo turtle]

Maybe void strike could out damage it

[shadow quail]

Void crit staff with true aim works well.

[viscid matrix]

DD, Void staff, Dome, smite is better

[still hearth]

Go left side and middle aura smh smh

[ocean cipher]

i'm honestly surprised abt how had assail feels to use

[onyx sentinel]

smite + creeping flames goes great with surge

[untold niche]

but but i want my mind in motion
;-;

and what about

[still hearth]

Suck it up

[untold niche]

5% crit

WHAT ABOUT 5 % crit

[still hearth]

What about it

It's ass

[untold niche]

its gone

[onyx sentinel]

looks good, thanks

[untold niche]

:(

[royal pumice]

yup

[viscid matrix]

It was op with faster ammo regen when released

[ocean cipher]

even then i didnt like it much

tbf it's a super cool concept but it doesn't feel great to use imo

it's just kinda

[viscid matrix]

https://streamable.com/zjpqc5

This is still possible

[ocean cipher]

like

spam left click

[untold niche]

mrs vanessa, why venting shrike instead of bobble?

[still hearth]

To be fair a lot of weapons are spam left click

[royal pumice]

after the smite fix i rarely even use any psyker abilities anymore. don't find any too fun. feels bad man

[still hearth]

Sometimes hold left clock

[ocean cipher]

darktide is already on roblox?

[still hearth]

Flame Shriek can kill stuff which is cool and also knock stuff over anyway

[viscid matrix]

@spice veldt has his settings below minimum

[still hearth]

Bubbles boring

[viscid matrix]

Dome is life

[strong gulch]

LMB spam 😭

[untold niche]

then should i take this boss woman

[onyx sentinel]

holy clipping

[viscid matrix]

That doesn’t work as advertised so no
It spreads those 4 stacks across all enemies so they only get 1 stack

[still hearth]

Never

[untold niche]

ok very cool

[strong gulch]

Not never but usually not

[still hearth]

It's questionable af

But it's not useless

[onyx sentinel]

the steam guide on the pin has a bunch of solid builds if you're looking for inspiration

[still hearth]

So..

[viscid matrix]

[still hearth]

[untold niche]

i am aware they exist but not the reasoning behind them

thats why im very thankful to whoever answers my questions because it helps me learn alot :v

:D

[quartz barn]

Dont take wildfire as in, waste of skillpoint?

[viscid matrix]

Check the pinned post for the Atheneum, it has mechanics of talents

[viscid matrix]

Waste of skill point

[quartz barn]

Ok fair

[onyx sentinel]

so is this what this means?

[strong gulch]

Purg has too much SB for wildfire to be useful.

Creeping flames and PC aren't enough for wildfire.

Fire trauma (blazing spirit + warp nexus) is the right amount for wild fire to be helpful.

[onyx sentinel]

didn't know that, that's pretty shit actually

[untold niche]

athtyahhawth doesnt explain why or even say why you shouldn ttake that skill ;-;
or maybe mans dumb dumb :v

[viscid matrix]

#psyker-class message

Says what it does tho, unlike the tooltips

[onyx sentinel]

If wildfire does only add 1 stack most of the time, then there isn't much difference between 3 stacks from trauma vs 4 from trauma + wildfire

[viscid matrix]

Best bet, consider all tooltips to be misleading and check the Atheneum for actual mechanics

[strong gulch]

If you want long explanations on how wildfire works and why it's for the most part crud (also bugged), do a search in the discord for "wildfire" by @severe folio

[quartz barn]

Ye ok so its because of how soulfire works overall, cant get more stacks so wildfire has diminishing returns

[strong gulch]

Trauma can go up to 6. Wild fire on it is more about pre loading or preserving stacks.

[untold niche]

with surge, and 370 b ase rating voidstrike staff, can you easily one tap crusher on crit?

easily as in how thammer from zealot can easily one tap crusher

[strong gulch]

It's why wildfire is only really recommened on fire trauma builds and nothing else.

[vestal fulcrum]

With a Carapace property - probably, but I only tested this in a vacuum of the Meat Grinder

[shadow quail]

It can't imo, drops it to like 20%

[strong gulch]

fire trauma + creeping flames + wildfire is the usual combo

[untold niche]

so sad

[viscid matrix]

only crit headshot with 25% carapace perk

Other wise 2 tap, but first shot knocks them down

[quartz barn]

Yes and no, crit % checks seperately for the impact dmg and the explosion

[untold niche]

dat is gud enuf

hoho

[quartz barn]

It can onetap crushers, just doesnt happen a lot

[untold niche]

but it sounds like uh

you really have to get very lucky

[viscid matrix]

True aim causes every hit by that projectile to crit

[quartz barn]

Even without carapace btw

[shadow quail]

it's a 2 shot in real gameplay most of the time

[untold niche]

only ~3 blessings work
then you would want cara AND maniac

[viscid matrix]

Without carapace isn’t consistant

[untold niche]

can you one shot ragers on crit hs?

[quartz barn]

Ye thats what im saying...

[vestal fulcrum]

Wildfire has some additional merit if you want to take it with From Fire Reborn or whatever the Warp Siphon augment is. If a thing on fire dies = you have a high chance of gaining a warp charge, and randomly applying SF to the heretics can help you get the most out of that.

[viscid matrix]

Requiring full stacks of warp charges or at least 15 stacks of DD is annoying

Actually think it’s 5 warp charges or 10 DD stacks

[untold niche]

someone plos

i assume yes :p

[quartz barn]

Yes

[viscid matrix]

Go to meatgrinder ingame and test it

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1158835513789272126/1178959527576621107/image.png?ex=65780a9f&is=6565959f&hm=62d077ac4388350045c18deeca30cb233f9115b4ed8b9b73687808afe798940a&

This is the base damage with 79%

Crushers are 3k I believe
Or is it 3500 now?

[quartz barn]

Surge moment

Double projectile + double crit + 4 explosions

[untold niche]

okie tenk u boss

[strong gulch]

Side note. I would not get "shoots bigger and better balls" out of "staff-bound blaze bolt".

like wtf

[viscid matrix]

Surge is still Staff-bound Smite

[strong gulch]

Of course it is. 😭

No hope for these tool tips.

[viscid matrix]

Pretty sure it’s still smite in code too, they just removed the EP affecting it

[untold niche]

i kinda feel like i want these two :v

[viscid matrix]

You do

[untold niche]

give up true aim?

true aim sub branch

[exotic tulip]

Psyker really got the short end of the cosmetic stick didn't they

[viscid matrix]

No, I would drop the 2 top middle, take the warp attack toughness, then learn to edge your peril

[quartz barn]

I have my keystone tree botched to get those, since i rarely use a blitz

[viscid matrix]

You have vent for peril dumping in an emergency, so don’t need peril dump on kill chance

[viscid matrix]

WS effects ability cool-down not blitz

[untold niche]

drop the circled green ones?

[quartz barn]

Ye but bubble cd on elite kill

[viscid matrix]

I would take the top left 2 and drop the top centre 2

[quartz barn]

Same for others abilities, you have them up constantly anyway

[viscid matrix]

Toughness on warp kill is better than toughness on warp quell

[untold niche]

which one is top center 2 :p
like i still need to form a link no

[viscid matrix]

Hug the left side and go down from there

[severe folio]

i was summoned

[viscid matrix]

Talking about SB earlier

[severe folio]

i see

[viscid matrix]

Few seconds slow lol

[untold niche]

why essence harvest over inner tranq

[viscid matrix]

Cause you spread fire everywhere and it applies whenever anything on ablaze dies, even if you don’t get the finishing hit

Well 10% chance, but still

[untold niche]

no as in you took this one

insteaad of this

[viscid matrix]

Cause tbh I don’t care about peril while I’m edging my peril

Learn to edge your peril, as long as you are below 97% peril when yeeting a secondary down range, you are fine, and you get max buffs and just tapping quell will drop you below 90%

[untold niche]

6*6 is 36%, thats enough for one more shot, wouldnt that mean you have less downtime quelling, meaning higher dps? :v

[viscid matrix]

Edging peril means tap quell between every secondary, and always be above 80% for maximum bonuses while high peril

You don’t need to go below 80 while edging

[onyx sentinel]

wait cosmetics are out?

[untold niche]

so sorry, as in you are at 80%, with inner tranq you can fire two secondary instead of one before quelling

[severe folio]

who told you

[quasi junco]

Edging peril lol

Wonder what inspired that phrase

[severe folio]

CBT

[viscid matrix]

No, i fire a secondary, tap quell, fire secondary and repeat forever, never have to worry about needing to hold quell or being unable to fire cause dangerous

[viscid matrix]

Go to max over and over and hear the demons scream for it to end

[untold niche]

ohh, also wanted to ask

you get max buffs and just tapping quell will drop you below 90%
What buffs make it so that you can just tap quell then you drop to below 90%?

[onyx sentinel]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/186m53g/the_moebian_21st_cosmetics_are_here/

[viscid matrix]

The default is while above 50% peril you quell faster

And quelling from 100 to 80 is almost instant

[untold niche]

Ohhh :O

[severe folio]

fellas

[viscid matrix]

So tap quell between every secondary and never have to stop firing to quell

[viscid matrix]

I hate it

[untold niche]

its only for those people who played before patch 13 right, i think.

[viscid matrix]

Is that the free one?

😦 it has that stupid band across top of head

I want something that matches my Beta helmet

[onyx sentinel]

eh

[shadow quail]

is that all we got

[onyx sentinel]

whoops wrong pic

[static needle]

What is the best weapon for a gunpsyker build?

[exotic tulip]

Yeah that chest piece actually looked like it was from the store

[sacred crane]

Columnus

[exotic tulip]

I don't know why this one is so meh

[digital narwhal]

Laspistol, Columnus IAG, Vraks Mk III Headhunter, Kantreal MGXII Infantry Lasgun or Revolver.
Take your pick.

[viscid matrix]

Do you wanna kill carapace, bosses or elites/specialists

[onyx sentinel]

I think the gloves are unique, no?

[static needle]

cant i just use a duelling sword for that?

[digital narwhal]

They are

[severe folio]

well then fellas

[digital narwhal]

I use a Combat Knife

(I'm a contrarian)

[static needle]

thats kinda cool tho. Is it better for hordes than duelling mk IV?

[viscid matrix]

Laspistol is best weapon for psyker to kill monstrosities
DS for carapace

Then I guess you go with Vraks III, Columnus IAG, Kantreal XII

[sinful peak]

worth upgrading or nah

[digital narwhal]

It can only hit 2 targets at once, but I enjoy the Uncanny + Bleed interaction

[viscid matrix]

Until you get a better one yes, you also need to get Surge blessing, and it’s rare

[severe folio]

ah the zealot got a new armor

[wise sundial]

BOOM.

[severe folio]

wait the zealot got a whole outfit set

we only get the mask ?

[digital narwhal]

Congrats

[viscid matrix]

Nice, almost perfect, just needed that charge speed at 80%, damage at 80% and you would have been set

[gusty furnace]

All 4 classes got a full set

[onyx sentinel]

that warp res is dogwater, I doubt you can full charge secondary starting at 80% without blowing up

[viscid matrix]

Warp res does nothing for you if you edge your peril

[viscid matrix]

As long as you yeet your secondary before hitting 97% you won’t go boom, then tap quell and go again

[severe folio]

oh

[untold niche]

i personally wouldnt upgrade anything under 370 base unless you dont have a weapon

[onyx sentinel]

oh actually, you won't even blow up at 98% even with 37% warp res lmao

using PerilGauge with 1 decimal point

[sinful peak]

I don't care abou the total as long as it has a good distribution

but I sold it anyway

[quasi junco]

I’d replace damage with flak

[onyx sentinel]

alright so I guess warp resist is the dump stat for fire trauma then

[quasi junco]

Dump stats tho. You can get great 350ish weapons

[sinful peak]

I'm getting close to a mill dumped looking for a good trauma, 0 so far

[untold niche]

i don't think staffs has any dump stats right?

[sinful peak]

it's not meant to be

[quasi junco]

Warp resistance I guess

[glossy ember]

just got 80x4 and 60 on warp res ez

[viscid matrix]

as long as you dont activate your secondary after charging above 97%, you wont have any issues, like if you use Purga, and charge to 96% then activate, you can hold it for full duration and not go boom
even tho you reach 100% imediatly

[untold niche]

booden you always show up at the most precise time :v

[viscid matrix]

Warp resist and quell speed are dump stats to me

[untold niche]

psyker should get his version of TWBS

no interrupt on hit

[wet belfry]

Focused channeling ?

[untold niche]

oh :v
so sorry.
is that a talent?

[wet belfry]

Blessing

[untold niche]

but the other blessings too good no :v

[wet belfry]

All staffs have it

[untold niche]

ohhhh

[viscid matrix]

dis is how you edge your peril 😄

i need to redo my mods, cause that update ruined it

im so used to surge the long charge time to do void is tripping me up

[untold niche]

wait your ful charge is 5%, then the shot is 6% total 11% (~88 to ~99)
my full cahrge + shoot is 24%

wadahek :v

[viscid matrix]

tbh i only sit at high peril during actual missions, so i dont check those numbers ever, but also the peril is slightly off, there is a mod that fixes it

[fresh reef]

Could be a difference in the peril resist nodes you take

[untold niche]

true peril thingy

true peril mod right

saw it in the atheanwduanm

[viscid matrix]

there are a couple of buffs that give full effects while at 80ish or more peril

[onyx sentinel]

this shows otherwise

[untold niche]

oh no its called peril gauge

[onyx sentinel]

queel speed isn't a dump stat, it affects how much peril is vented per tick. My 79% quell dumps 12% above 80 peril while a 30ish one dumps less than 8%

[wet belfry]

Why did you put a thermometer on your screen?

[viscid matrix]

reasons to edge your peril

[untold niche]

yeha i know about this, 20/40/60/80

[onyx sentinel]

7.5% at 1 decimal point accuracy

[dreamy storm]

start again from start be liek

www

[viscid matrix]

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/243

i still prefer numbers

[onyx sentinel]

So you can edge faster with a higher quell speed

someone could probably figure out the %quell speed breakpoint where you'd only need two ticks to not explode at max charge but I'm too lazy to find out

[untold niche]

i hjeard theres a mod that klets you change weapon stats in psk?

[onyx sentinel]

and it's a bit harder to test since the 97% rule for safe secondary release isn't true

[digital narwhal]

Peril Gauge, my beloved

[onyx sentinel]

maybe depends on staff type or a combination of any of the stats

[untold niche]

so if i release at 96 i migjht die? :v

iirc someone told me 96 is the magic numbert

just make sure you release on or before

96

[onyx sentinel]

test it yourself at the psykhanium, I just showed that it's not a general rule with the vid I posted

[untold niche]

heheh my bad, sorry

[untold niche]

wait y ou released at 100 (instead of 96) or am i dumb

[static needle]

I feel like 100 toughness is too little for gunpsyker with scrier's unless ur always extremely proficient at dodging

[onyx sentinel]

I release at over 98% with only 37% warp resist on the trauma staff. So based on people's differing "fact" on what the magic number is, I'm guessing it differs by staff

[viscid matrix]

no boom as long as you activate secondary before like 97%

[digital narwhal]

Thanks Hadron, very cool

(I was huffing hopium)

[untold niche]

idk what blessingsa re good on that but the stats are good no :v

[viscid matrix]

Blazing and Warp Nexus

[untold niche]

i mean the perks isnt half bad tho :v
just change out both blessings and call it a day cant you :p

[digital narwhal]

The stats are pretty good on this roll, yeah

Warp Res could be a little higher, but

It's pretty good

[static needle]

I feel like 100 toughness is too little for gunpsyker with scrier's unless ur always extremely proficient at dodging. How would you quickly regain toughness as a gunpsyker with laspistol?

[digital narwhal]

Mettle

Also, use Soulstealer and weave in Assails

[static needle]

eh idk mettle doesnt regen enough cause the fire rate isnt that fast

[viscid matrix]

Edging Practice

[digital narwhal]

Gun Psyker is best used when looping your resources

[bleak tulip]

hearing loss simulator

[static needle]

i think i know what u mean but could you elaborate?

[viscid matrix]

i usualy have it turned lower, had to turn it up to show what its like with default sound settings

[digital narwhal]

You get buffs to your Warp abilities from Perfect Timing and Malefic Momentum by using your guns, and you regen more Toughness and generate Peril with your Warp abilities for Warp Rider.

You weave back and forth to buff stack.

[viscid matrix]

usualy im down at 10% peril intensity

[static needle]

This good?

[static needle]

eh malefic momentum isnt good right? that only gives more warp dmg which u dont need

[digital narwhal]

It is very good

+15% from Perfect Timing
+20% from Malefic Momentum
Up to +20% from Warp Rider

That's a lot of buff stacking

for a lot of damage

[static needle]

but why do i need warp dmg when my main dmg source is laspistol?

[digital narwhal]

Wait, what Blitz are you using?

[viscid matrix]

only one that matters if you dont use your warp skills

[static needle]

assail

[digital narwhal]

Then yeah, Perfect Timing and Malefic Momentum are great there

[sudden trellis]

I like BB with the gun-psyker

[static needle]

assail is my horde clear tho

probably a bad choice tho lol

[digital narwhal]

Assail is used interchangeably with your gun

[static needle]

i feel like my horde clear is kinda lacking

[digital narwhal]

Assail is useful for everything short of Crushers, Maulers, and Monstrosities

It's even somewhat useful against Bulwarks and Reapers

[viscid matrix]

assail is your go to horde clearing blitz

[distant quartz]

My siblings, is surge staff usable now?

[viscid matrix]

its not terrible, its not amazing either

[sudden trellis]

yarp

[static needle]

yes but does that need more dmg for horde clear?

[digital narwhal]

The damage buffs are for Elites, Bruisers, and Shooters

[stable silo]

surge staff is pretty good

[distant quartz]

I’ve been avoiding my brain burst build since surge staff was nerfed

[stable silo]

i shred elite packs and stun lock crusher swarms until death

[azure bridge]

this is completely unoptimal, but if i wanted to boost my ability to block and survive by modifying my melee weapon, should I add block cost reduction, or 2 stamina?

[stable silo]

horde clear is a touch of ap roblem but thats what the fire shout is for

both

[distant quartz]

Block efficiency on weapon and stamina in curios

[viscid matrix]

can consistantly do about 1200 or so on a crit against crushers with a mediocre staff
so about 3shot to take out a crusher

[stable silo]

wait actually im unsure if block cost reduction has diminishing effects like the dmg reduction

[azure bridge]

if i could only choose one?

[distant quartz]

Efficiency then

You would want to vent before 97%

[viscid matrix]

my Block Illisi 😄

[digital narwhal]

@static needle Essentially, the potential ~+55% damage from Perfect Timing, Malefic Momentum, and Warp Rider lets Assail kill certain enenies around ~33% faster as a simple estimate.

That's extremely useful, since it means you're saving more shards for more enemies.

[azure bridge]

okay, i don't take a stamina curio because I find a single extra wound to more consistently secure mission completion which is why i was asking

[stable silo]

wounds arent that great IMO

unless ur marty

[viscid matrix]

if you play wounds on a psyker you are playing to lose

also if 3 HP curios with 25% hp on each, you can live thru a crusher slam

[digital narwhal]

Don't plan for failure.

Take HP or Stamina for survivability

[azure bridge]

I take wounds because of unfortunate luck and pugs

its better to be able to rise the extra time,a nd pull the party out of death

[viscid matrix]

eh would prefer high toughness or high hp to live thru hits than a wound and rely on pugs to pick me back up

[frigid zenith]

By that logic, only take stam curios, anything else is playing to get hit, don't get hit.

[stable silo]

but heres the logic a wound doenst help unless u die and its not 100% that anyone will rez you anyway making it even more niche

[viscid matrix]

big true, but some hits go thru even if you play perfect, and living thru them is better than going down

[azure bridge]

i have 231 hp as is

[distant quartz]

Let him do his own build, keep the advice in mind and improve later

[stable silo]

he can do waht he wants but i can give advice

[viscid matrix]

i like my 417 effective HP

[digital narwhal]

That's why you apply critical thinking so you avoid reaching that conclusion.

[stable silo]

if he takes it thats his choice if not thats fine he plays the way he wants

[azure bridge]

I am fine with taking advice, and I prefer to be given it than not, its just I noticed that the mission completion when playing with only two wounds went down by a lot, because pugs constantly go down and I can't account for bad players

[plucky flax]

I think stamina is more efficient than block cost.

[north pike]

Is blast radius important on this stick?

[viscid matrix]

no

Difference is a tiny amount
this is 59%

[frigid zenith]

I was being facetious, obviously using any curio has it's merits.

[azure bridge]

what build? I can't seem to get my toughness taht high on a blaze trauma set up

[digital narwhal]

Ahhhh mb

[north pike]

Good, good. New stick to try then.

[untold niche]

wait quick question
so take stam curios on psyker so you can shove --> shoot staff -> repeat?
wait thats not right, wait is it.

[frigid zenith]

People telling other people that using would curios is playing to lose is kinda derp. With your playstyle, if the woud curio gets you a win then it's great.

[viscid matrix]

that works quite well doing exactly that

[north pike]

My experience in pugs is usually, if I go down, we either lose a ton of health team wide, or we wipe. So I go all in on never fall down

[viscid matrix]

same

[plucky flax]

I never die cos I'm top 1%.

[viscid matrix]

im not good enough to carry solo to pick everyone else back up at the next point yet

[frigid zenith]

I don't play to lose, I play for my team to lose.

[plucky flax]

You'll get plenty of practice.

[azure bridge]

i tend to find if I go down, someone gets me up, but I also tend to find that lots of people simply go down, i don't think I've had many damnation runs whre someone wasn't goign down

[viscid matrix]

i do

[plucky flax]

I have to solo clutch probably 1 out of every 5 games.

[north pike]

I can on most difficulties push through, til high intensity things keep me buried in too many corpses

[plucky flax]

My pubs are always so sus

[frigid zenith]

A purg user out warpfire damaged my TB build last night... Feels bad man..

[viscid matrix]

my pubs always end up being hi inten

[digital narwhal]

I never die because I let my teammates do all the work for me.

I'm intellimgen.

[plucky flax]

Need to be more aggressive to steal his fire.

[untold niche]

actual ogryn gameplay

[north pike]

But I usually play zealot, and zoomie around to drag the horde away from the rez points

[viscid matrix]

basicly sleeping in my neck brace

[untold niche]

also grond

why did did you change pic to cat pic

that your cat

[frigid zenith]

He was running up in there while I was dealing with patrols tagging everything spamming lmb. Pretty hilarious actually.

I was rather impressed.

[plucky flax]

If it's one of those guys that just run ahead to kill stuff and ignore materials then I also have no solution.

[frigid zenith]

Most aggresive purg player I've ever played with.

[plucky flax]

I play for plasteels not for scoreboard damage.

[north pike]

Plasteel hero, true

[frigid zenith]

It's the trauma user that makes it safe for them to run past shit to tag everything though.

I get the most consistent damage from voidstrike and smite builds these days.

[plucky flax]

Why smite with void tho thats so weird.

[north pike]

I use voidstrike, and brain burst... and never raise my hands, just letting the 10% proc act as it's only use

[silk hawk]

Once upon a time i had team of 3 of those, so i spent whole match collecting all the shit behind my team dealing with half of the special spawns they trigger, it was sad match...

[plucky flax]

Maybe I am weird for using assail with void.

[frigid zenith]

Pure voidstrike OR pure smite builds.

[plucky flax]

I don't mind that as I'm comfortable with being alone. So they can wait at airlock while I get mats.

[frigid zenith]

I run a smite build with venting and a revolver.

[azure bridge]

how come its the ultra aggressive ones

[frigid zenith]

When you combine smite with warpfire damage shit actually dies.

[plucky flax]

I only use creeping flames

[frigid zenith]

right.

That's the jam right there.

So much damage.

[plucky flax]

The other 2 abilities are too hard.

[frigid zenith]

lock screen down with EP smite, creeping flames at 83%. Win.

[plucky flax]

Hmm I use warp charges with smite.

More creeping flames.

[frigid zenith]

I messed with both a little bit, with the revolver I always have EP charges and I felt like I got faster kills with EP instead of going for more - peril.

[plucky flax]

My 2nd favourite build after blaze trauma. Just wish surge is not bugged
https://youtu.be/4G4_cXz19XM

[frigid zenith]

Walk into room, 1 shot as many things as possible, lock down the rest.

[untold niche]

isnt that just the game

[frigid zenith]

I don't think I've had a game where EP/smite/revolver wasn't top damage.

[untold niche]

ignore mats = no split
why you complain :p

[untold niche]

do you have some colour shaders

[plucky flax]

I'm not complaining. If they kill everything then I can pick up mats in peace.

Also no I'm not using reshade

[untold niche]

then how come your game colour looks kinda off

im not saying you are lying obviously im genuinely asking

[quasi junco]

Maybe it’s your eyeballs. Recalibrate them

[frigid zenith]

You should give EP smite with revolver a try sir, all those ragers would have been dead as fuck really fast in the start of that video.

[quasi junco]

But that would mean playing a gunker

[plucky flax]

My revolver build uses ep assail.

[untold niche]

oh its prob the gauge and the green ping

[plucky flax]

Assail kill dreg ragers really well.

[untold niche]

thats why i found it so weird

[frigid zenith]

It's not a revolver build, it's a smite build that uses revolver to snag one shots to build EP.

[plucky flax]

[gloomy magnet]

random drop, tada

[quasi junco]

lol this sounds whack

[frigid zenith]

Whack shit that slays.

[quasi junco]

I love smite but only use it sparingly. Using it for the bulk of my damage would bother me

[frigid zenith]

Try it out man.

It gets nutty.

[fading iris]

** ++ SPREAD THE WORD ++**

[frigid zenith]

First game I played with it just messing around pulled 800k.

[digital narwhal]

[north pike]

Ooo new Bis

[inland ginkgo]

what is the requirement to get the moebian 21st outfit?

[untold niche]

have you seen the +3 wounds one

[static needle]

any wounds?

[frigid zenith]

I also run a deimos with the +% power on peril level becsasue the only time I pull that out is when something manages to make it to me, becasue my peril is high. That shit rips too.

[gloomy magnet]

just log in the game lol

[unborn flicker]

Can pyskers get curios with more than 1 wound?

[untold niche]

no it was a photoshopped curio
just found it funny so i bought it up