psyker-class

[quartz barn]

If it doesnt onetap its useless

[severe folio]

what compels them to aimp up the AI director this patch

[proven belfry]

do you guys ever use axes on psyker? which one is good and what blessing?

[severe folio]

combat axe

[quasi junco]

Lasguns is a word, fuck off autocorrect

Rashad

[severe folio]

tactical axe is not in a very good spot because dueling sword exist

[frigid zenith]

combat axe is life.

[severe folio]

we use the combat axe as a horde managing tool with good armor damage

brutal momentum, decimator

[quasi junco]

Or head taker

[proven belfry]

I never bothered with axes before. but if I have the excess plasteel, i may try em

[frigid zenith]

headttaakkkeerrrr

[severe folio]

headtaker also good yeah

axe is the

slow and heavy methodology of the dueling sword

if dueling sword is the fast, light, single target armor penetrator

[proven belfry]

hmmm why not atrox or achlys axes?

[frigid zenith]

I mainly use axes on the zeal though, the damage gets kinda dumb.

[hearty oak]

They cant. If they do, then it be a garbage weapon if it cant even one-shot a gunner or shotgunner

[severe folio]

axe is the charging, steady, heavy armor breaker

the reason why we use rashad over the others is because of their heavies

Rashad has the fastest heavy

[quasi junco]

A Fatshark dev : “Hold my beer”

[frigid zenith]

the mk5 is good too.

[severe folio]

and its light attack are decent at horde

[quasi junco]

Rashad has finesse too

[frigid zenith]

I remember when the mk5 was THE melee weapon for the psyker.

[severe folio]

axe heavy will stun crusher to infinity so the faster you can hit the heavy the safer you are

[quartz barn]

Wait im confused, where does it say that the ai director got amped up?

[frigid zenith]

Axes truely really only shine on the zealot with all the melee buffs.

[severe folio]

the achyls have a pretty fast special attack

[quartz barn]

Also didnt notice a difference unless patch isnt out yet

[severe folio]

which, may or may not be useful, it stun everything except monst

[eager mantle]

The last patch notes. AI director has been tuned to ramp up on higher difficulties more

[quasi junco]

Yea my zealot uses Rashad, and it’s noticeably faster on him

[frigid zenith]

If you played AM missions during patch 14, then during 15, you KNOW it got buffed.

[severe folio]

you dont notice that AI director has been spawning more specials ?

throughout the game ?

[frigid zenith]

Oh for sure, I use rashad as well, just saying. Don't be throwing out good mk5s.

[hearty oak]

Ive seen the guide saying dumdum and infernus is good. but with their being a stack limit, what good would it be then? or have i just never seen it actually dumpster a DH

[proven belfry]

nice. rashad it is!

[quartz barn]

I almost exclusively play A/AM but didnt notice lmao

[severe folio]

well then

[frigid zenith]

When you hit max stacks you're still doing the damage, it's just not dropping off.

[eager mantle]

Could also be dumb luck with the AI director. Still an unstable lil fella

Or you're just a god gamer

[severe folio]

but yes the AI is amped up

[frigid zenith]

How could you not notice? lol. We went from 20 rager packs to like 40.

[severe folio]

i think fatshark overestimate the veteran rework

and think that they need more shootign target this patch

[eager mantle]

But the intensity compared to last patch on AMD has definitely been amped

[frigid zenith]

I still don't use any keystones on the vet. They're all dumb.

[quartz barn]

Ye but i almost exclusively run with voidstrike so i get 8 rager kills in one hit

Did notice the mixed hordes tho

But tbf im too used to the extra specials/elites modifiers

[severe folio]

well you feel the smaller end of the stick then

[eager mantle]

I think they are cool but they feel like extensions on an already fine tree everyone was working with last patch and for what doesn't feel like enough return for that extra point cost

If an addition to a class tree was an asterisk

[hearty oak]

So what perks would be good on it with unyielding?

crit chance?

[frigid zenith]

Anything really. ragers are probably the biggest threat so maybe maniac.

[eager mantle]

I'm used to those and I'm feeling the changes

[severe folio]

reason why dum dum and infernus is paired together is because

the flame tick trigger dum dum

[hearty oak]

this is what im working with

[severe folio]

RA is okay

if you pair with right side tree

for higher crits

[hearty oak]

This is what that is for

Im just sad cause i could use that RF T4 on my zealot

[frigid zenith]

Then use it on your zealot.

[tough onyx]

In A Perfect World

[frigid zenith]

Let the space wizard keep his staff.

[hearty oak]

Yeah but id hate to lose a good laspistol for a blessing

[frigid zenith]

There will be more laspistols.

[tough onyx]

just convince yourself it's not that good

[hearty oak]

[tough onyx]

it isn't anyway 😉

break it 😉

[frigid zenith]

I wouldn't use a laspistol on a psyker if it didn't have infernus and dum dum.

Personally.

If I'm gonna be a meme psyker, it's gonna be becasue we are gonna win.

[eager mantle]

Infernus/dumdum on my laspistol
Dumdum/raking fire on my columnus

[willow hazel]

Raking over frenzy?

[eager mantle]

Don't have

[frigid zenith]

nothing lives long enough on the mk5iag to get behind them.

[eager mantle]

Look it was my only lvl 4 blessing ok

[frigid zenith]

not mk4, do not want.

[eager mantle]

Not the red one therefore I do not care

[tough onyx]

WAIT

WHAT DO YOU MEAN ITS NOT MK4 X_X

i didnt notice that

[eager mantle]

[frigid zenith]

Throw it in the TTRRAAASSHHHH

[tough onyx]

no upgrade ;p

[quaint burrow]

roman numberals ||censored||, do you read them 🤣

[tough onyx]

i just was too excited

to not notice the lack of I

mine has 0 finesse X_X

[eager mantle]

Dat finesse lmao but it works

[tough onyx]

it still 1 shots mutants

[frigid zenith]

That's all that matters.

[eager mantle]

Keep until you get the God roll

[frigid zenith]

Now, toss that away and get a deimos with deflector.

[tough onyx]

just pulled this out of the same shop reset

[frigid zenith]

Noice.

[eager mantle]

Brunt keeping that 1 from you

[frigid zenith]

lets's see what it brinks into.

[frigid zenith]

surge and transfer peril or bust.

[quaint burrow]

plasteel not found.

never enough plasteel

[tough onyx]

-1 blessing +1 perk

\

[frigid zenith]

oh shit.

[eager mantle]

Roll again

[frigid zenith]

That's a good start.

[tough onyx]

thats not a bad boy maybe

[eager mantle]

We gambla

[tough onyx]

RIP

[frigid zenith]

transfer peril is slept on.

[untold widget]

RIP

[frigid zenith]

It's what I use.

Don't let these nerds tell you it ain't good.

[untold widget]

I've been having fun with true aim and voidsurge to guarantee the crits.

[eager mantle]

Less quelling. More killing

[quaint burrow]

posted my random trash turned treasure yesterday -> #psyker-class message
transfer peril is 👌

[frigid zenith]

Sailing voidstrikes through a horde and watching your peril rocket back down and THEN you get to shit on all the elites that just came too all without taking the time to quell.. mmmmmm

More pew pew, less Q Q.

[tough onyx]

I dont mind transfer peril, I don't really care too much for flurry on voidstrike

[frigid zenith]

Everyone is all "OmG, GottAA GeTT ThoSE CritSSS"

I fire off so many more strikes I probably get more crits than they do anyways.

[tough onyx]

i havent seen surge in so long

did they remove it ?

[frigid zenith]

No.

[tough onyx]

i got t4 flurry and nexus like 10 times

nothing else

[frigid zenith]

Still not as cool as trauma blaze though.

[tough onyx]

i been using surge staff alot

its fun

[frigid zenith]

ew.

Surge and Purg feel really underwhelming to me.

[tough onyx]

i got super crazy rolled purgatus and a surge

so ive been trying them out since i only ever use voidstrike staff

i havent really given trauma a chance yety

[frigid zenith]

Use that Trauma staff sir.

[tough onyx]

i dont have a good one

[frigid zenith]

Well, get one.

[tough onyx]

ill craft one and try it out

[frigid zenith]

blazing piety.

Go.

err spirit.

[tough onyx]

what do u use with it

[frigid zenith]

soulblaze on crit.

and crit with peril.

Set the world on fire.

Will knocking everything over.

[tough onyx]

thats kinda what i wanted out of purg

[frigid zenith]

It's good times.

[tough onyx]

it feels kinda cool to use

but it lacks something

i dont love it

[frigid zenith]

Shit on fire can still come smack you in the face.

Shit laying on the ground cannot.

Also, blowing up entire hordes with 1 shot is fun.

They all explode into small parts.

Go flying in the air.

[tough onyx]

ive been experimenting with stuff alot lately

when i started playing the class rework just came out and i started with assail

and that shit was just unrealistically broken so hard i didnt really learn how to play the game for a while

[frigid zenith]

It's still good, I just am not a fan of it.

My new favorite thing is killing everything with smite.

[tough onyx]

i just started using smite

i think assail is still good its just not as strong as it was before

i didnt even have to switch weapons except for armored guys it just swiss cheesed the entire game

[frigid zenith]

Basically.

[eager mantle]

Yea assail is still good. It's only on my gunker. I want BB to get something changed though

[frigid zenith]

combine smite with all the soulblaze synergies for epic fun times.

[tough onyx]

bb is cool with the purg staff

since it becomes your voidstrike

[frigid zenith]

I get a ton of use out of BB.

I don't know why people knock it.

It does bosses well and it's a make things go away button from the other side of the map.

and you only need los to get your target.

Pretty cool if you ask me.

[stuck mica]

true

[eager mantle]

It is. I do like it. But outside of EP BB stacks and locking onto the sniper across the map. I'd rather have smite or assail. Same charge time no matter the target also feels ass

Do I know what should be done? Nah. I just want something

[frigid zenith]

you want BB to be a thermonuclear explosion.

Pew pew PPPPEEWWWWW

[vale nacelle]

Hot take: BB cast time is why it feels bad.

Make base cast time the same as when it’s buffed by EP and change EP to only boost damage.

Or have EP give it cleave with a Trauma style dmg drop off.

[severe folio]

kill kill kill

[quasi junco]

Purg staff I take it

Nothing else crits that much

[severe folio]

yes its purg

the other psyker is also purger

[quasi junco]

Kinetic Resonance has entered the chat

[quasi junco]

I like it with my trauma blaze build

I’d upgrade it to purple and see what you have before going to orange

[severe folio]

it looks shifty

[quasi junco]

Ooooo someone better versed in DSs should probably chime in.

[severe folio]

i feel like its gonna brick

Uncanny is the safe blessing

and this one doesnt have it

might not have it in yellow

and you want to replace that elite with something else

afraid this one is no good

plus the damage is kind of low

this sword priority is all wrong

mobility too high

pointless stat

[eager mantle]

I mean it's fine, I'm just at the point I don't level stuff if it's not like 365+

[severe folio]

i think you should get a better one

[eager mantle]

If min-maxing yea, if it's a dueling sword to use until a new one eh. It's fine

It'll do

[proven belfry]

so to those who use truma, how does rending shockwave do to the enemies? it "brittles" them but im not sure exactly what that does. anyone care to explain?

[quasi junco]

Lowers armor

[proven belfry]

so no effect on non armor ones like bosses?

[ornate hamlet]

It lowers armor damage on enemies that aren't infested and unarmored

[quasi junco]

Captains are flak

[proven belfry]

so if I have warp nexus as a blessing...is it better to combine that with rending shockwave or perhaps surge? (2 shot per crit)

[quasi junco]

I prefer surge

Take mettle talent, it’s $$$ on a critstrike build

[proven belfry]

gotcha. the 2 shot sounds promising

yeah I have it but I find it useful mostly when I have quick weapons like knife. makes me go as zoom as a zealot

oh yeah I take that back. I forgot it heals ytou on crits too

[shadow quail]

Thought surge doesn't work on trauma

[ornate hamlet]

Or rather, on the secondary

[quasi junco]

Oh I thought we were talking about void

My b

[proven belfry]

it doesnt?

the primary fire works tho

[shadow quail]

So basically doesnt work

[proven belfry]

and when I test surge, on the secondary fire. I hear the explosion twice

[quasi junco]

Mettle is even better for a trauma blaze build, take it anyway

[proven belfry]

wait! theres surge on the voidstrike too!?

[severe folio]

you not gonna fire 2 shockwaves

[shadow quail]

yes it's the best thing to use

Especially with smite + trueaim

[severe folio]

its a horrible cycle

[quasi junco]

Holy shit I use those too. With shield and warp charges

[proven belfry]

but why surge not work with trauma? it doesnt do the double damage?

[severe folio]

smite, fire, smite, quell, fire

[shadow quail]

Same build as me

[quasi junco]

For trauma get blazing spirit and nexus

Set bitches on fire

[willow hazel]

This is great. Just replace the worse blessing with Uncanny and +elite with flak or unyielding.

[proven belfry]

3 stacks on soulblaze per hit seem a bit low though

[shadow quail]

I mean, im not doing that just for crits, but I smite a lot so having more crits for free is nice.

[quasi junco]

Perilous combustion and wildfire

[shadow quail]

Also smite to knock down whole horde then voidstrike the elites is nice

[severe folio]

no wildfire

[quasi junco]

REEE, I like it 😛

[willow hazel]

Isn't Perilous Combustion redundant with Blazing Spirit? Once Combustion procs twice, blazing Spirit stops working

[severe folio]

why do you like wildfire

[proven belfry]

is wildfire bad compared to perilous?

[severe folio]

very very bad

[quasi junco]

Spreads

[analog agate]

compared to it? yes

[severe folio]

by itself it is also very bad

[analog agate]

wildfire is very much meh. if you have an extra point you can use it

[willow hazel]

Does spreading 3 stacks really do anything?

[proven belfry]

but its good with purgatus right?

[late yew]

No, revolver is pretty bad agaisnt boss

[proven belfry]

I mean cause purgatus is horde clear

[quasi junco]

It adds up tho on multiple crits yes?

[severe folio]

its especially horrible with purgatus

[proven belfry]

and wildfire procs usually on those

[severe folio]

no

wildfire dont do what you think its doing

[willow hazel]

Wildfire or Blazing Spirit?

[hearty oak]

You uhhh... you sure about that?

[severe folio]

wildfire is not doing what it written to be doing

[late yew]

Which part of animations gets skipped?

[proven belfry]

so its a fake news talent?

[quasi junco]

BS

[severe folio]

its a fake news talent

[lilac vale]

I just saw a fledling Assail player. Blew up 3 times, went down about 5 times total

[late yew]

shut up you pussy

[severe folio]

it gives you the illusion you are spreading fire

[proven belfry]

thank you

[severe folio]

in reality it’s probably your perilious combustion or blazing spirit that’s spreading the fire for you

[willow hazel]

It caps at 6. So after a creeping flames it does nothing

[severe folio]

and those fire would actually kill things

[willow hazel]

Or after 2 Combustion procs

[quasi junco]

I don’t run VS on my Blaze build

[severe folio]

wildfire flame spread is horrible and it doesnt kill anything

[proven belfry]

gotcha gotcha

[willow hazel]

It still runs into that same issue with Perilous Combustion and Wildfire

[quasi junco]

Oh wtf
Bout to just play Critstrike from now on

[ornate hamlet]

Play GUN

[quasi junco]

https://tenor.com/view/get-out-of-here-throw-trash-garbage-gif-16402986

[severe folio]

if you are capable of putting 6 blazing spirit on an enemy

then VS afterward can make it 12

but very unlikely

but with PC theres no cap

PC will just keep adding flame upon flame so long as there are elite to die under your hands

[quasi junco]

Why unlikely, just be at hi peril?

[severe folio]

no

its because

enemies will likely die before you get to do so

[quasi junco]

Doesn’t the # of stacks depend on peril

[untold widget]

Too impatient to kill enemies one at a time.

[severe folio]

the # of the stack on vs depend on peril yes

85

[ornate hamlet]

Line them up

[hearty oak]

Knock them down

[proven belfry]

holdup since voidstrike and trauma have surge blessing...does this mean SURGE staff has surge blessing too??

[untold widget]

bullets don't penetrate, do they? still one at a time

[untold widget]

no

[proven belfry]

nooooooooooooo

[ornate hamlet]

Surge has no surge, weirdly enough

[proven belfry]

fs the bastards

[quasi junco]

Surge needs both “warp” blessings anyway

[ornate hamlet]

Ngl I'd switch to surge in a heartbeat

[willow hazel]

Which is sad because m1 surge with surge would be really strong

[ornate hamlet]

Funny LMB

Beeg kreetz

[untold widget]

that's why it doesn't have surge

[proven belfry]

so with the wildfire being kind of useless then is trauma blaze still viable on hordes?

[untold widget]

lol

[frigid zenith]

wtf, why is wildfire useless?

Who's peddling that nonsense.

[proven belfry]

i mean compared to perilous

[quasi junco]

Choke points are the best, when they get focused into small areas

[proven belfry]

like what you guys were talkin about earlier

[willow hazel]

It only transfers up to 4 stacks, and usually transfers less. 4 stacks is not much

[untold widget]

Apparently (I can't test this) no matter how many stacks are present when an enemy dies, only 4 stacks get transferred with wildfire. Apparently

[proven belfry]

yeah I did mention the stacks was really low. and the trauma damage and strong stagger is more than enough.

[severe folio]

yes thats the cap on wildfire

but thats only a fraction of why its terrible

[proven belfry]

guess imma switch the blessing then.

[frigid zenith]

So?

[willow hazel]

That's how it always worked

[untold widget]

even though it reads that it can only transfer 4 stacks to any one enemy, but that all stacks get transferred, that's apparently (again, I can't test this) not how it actually works

[frigid zenith]

It's about building damage on things that weren't directly damaged by you.

[willow hazel]

It can't apply past 4 stacks, and usually moves the 4 stacks to a 3 stack enemy for a net +1 stack

[severe folio]

building 4 stacks on poxwalkers that you arent directly damaging does practically nothing

[untold widget]

but if something has 15 stacks and dies, 11 of those stacks evaporate into nothingness

[proven belfry]

sorry another random question. does m2 trauma work with the transfer peril blessing?

[untold widget]

no

[severe folio]

what is m2

[untold widget]

charge

[severe folio]

rmb ?

no

[proven belfry]

secondary attack yea

[willow hazel]

The 4 stacks will kill a poxwalkers, but it won't chain

[severe folio]

it doesnt hit weakspot

the 4 stacks is not enough to kill a poxwalker

[proven belfry]

oof

[severe folio]

soulblaze need at least 6 stacks

[willow hazel]

Since when?

[quasi junco]

Just run Critstrike and make plasma vets jealous

[frigid zenith]

Aight, well, i'll keep my wildfire and keep killing the fuck outta everything.

[severe folio]

since forever ?

[untold widget]

Surprised no one's made a bug report on wildfire

[willow hazel]

6 stacks kills all normal enemies

[severe folio]

you are under the illusion that wildfire is spreading your flame

[proven belfry]

its news to me

[quasi junco]

Which is the definition of wildfire.

GG FS

[willow hazel]

Sorry 4 stacks kills a groaner

[frigid zenith]

I think you're under the illusion of how math works.

[willow hazel]

Not poxwalker

[proven belfry]

aww man. if only surge worked with the trauma secondary attack. it would be really cool. like add another shockwave slightly to the left. making a bigger shockwave

[frigid zenith]

EVERYTHING that dies while affect by your soulblaze will REAPPLY it's 4 stacks to EVERYTING around it.

[untold widget]

like, if I give something 21 stacks of soulfire and they die, and 17 stacks just disappear when I'm running wildfire, then I'm considering that a bug

[frigid zenith]

4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4+4

[untold widget]

that's how it reads, yes

not how it operates

apparently

[frigid zenith]

Who gives a fuck if you're "wasteing" stacks.

They were "free".

[untold widget]

that's the point of wildfire, to not waste stacks. if it still wastes stacks, then it's worthless

[frigid zenith]

Even if the stacks never go above 4, it's still gonna refresh to 4.

No, it's not.

think of it as a stack refresh to keep them at 4 instead of 0

[untold widget]

right. so 4 mobs get refreshed to 4 stacks. and then the remaining stacks evaporate into the warp

[static needle]

How does the infantry MG 1a lasgun hold up to the accatran laspistol for gunpsyker build?

[honest robin]

Small dots are enough to kill small enemies

[hearty oak]

I prefer stuff just dies outright instead of ticking down

[honest robin]

My biggest problem with wildfire is that a soulfired horde is impossible to parse

[velvet crypt]

should i go with this?

[frigid zenith]

Aight, apparently I wold need crayons and some construction paper to get you to understand the value and I don't have either so you just don't use wildfire and I'll sit here and be happy.

[honest robin]

Oops all blue (killed by 8 ragers you didn't see)

[untold widget]

I'm not sure you understand my meaning

[frigid zenith]

Hell yeah.

[velvet crypt]

ok thank the emperor i almost ran outta money

[honest robin]

Its worth letting hadron ruin

[proven belfry]

I thought the argument was wildfire is less useful COMPAREd to perilous combustion?\

not useless by itself?

[frigid zenith]

Why in the FUCK would you not have both?

It's mega derp to use one without the other.

[velvet crypt]

I have this one too

[frigid zenith]

Also good.

[untold widget]

what they're saying, which I cannot corroberate, is that wildfire can only transfer a max of 4 stacks, no matter how many stacks are there. it usually also only transfers one to each enemy, so wildfire is only giving one stack to 4 enemies. Max

[velvet crypt]

so which is more relevant charge rate or blast, coz one has less charge but more blast and vice versa

[hearty oak]

Rate

[frigid zenith]

blast

[hearty oak]

Oh wait, trauma. Nvm

Yeah blast

[velvet crypt]

Blast it is. Thanks friends

[severe folio]

Whick, can you explain to me how do you think Wildfire work

[untold widget]

here we go

[hearty oak]

Tbh. Where else could one talent point go towards in a staff build if not wildfire?

[severe folio]

how do you apply these 4 stacks

well it depends on the build

[untold widget]

yeah

[severe folio]

usually that answer very well if the person show us the build

[untold widget]

post that shit and we'll tell you

[severe folio]

so we know what they pick and what they didnt

before you put your point in wildfire because it has keyword soulblaze on it

ask yourself, how does wildfire work ?

what do you want this single point to do if you put it on wildfire

does wildfire do what this point you expend ?

[proven belfry]

how about purgatus warp charges then?

[severe folio]

if you think : By using wildfire, i can spread my flames further, you are mistaken

[quasi junco]

This is bullshit

[severe folio]

what about purgatus warp charges

[proven belfry]

if we want to use wildfire with that build?

[hearty oak]

a plus 15 toughness is negligible. A 4% passive to auto gain a charge for wbattery

[severe folio]

well if you not gonna show us the build, then speculation get us nowhere

[sour bison]

huh

[left hare]

Duelling sword perks and blessings?

[severe folio]

we could tell you where that point could go

or, we cant

[hearty oak]

I'm at work waiting for stuff

[severe folio]

well then we cant

[brave fiber]

🧱 incoming

[sour bison]

yes

[brave fiber]

damn

[severe folio]

4 stacks of flame do not kill an enemy btw

any enemy

unless that enemy already suffer portion of their health

[left hare]

perks and blessings for mkiv duel sword?

[severe folio]

which by that time, you might as well finish them off with trauma

[untold widget]

Uncanny Strike and Rampage or Precognition for blessings

[brave fiber]

Riposte is a good option too

[hearty oak]

Can still speculate. My voidstrike goes down the entirety of the left side of the tree with the exception of getting warp rider

[severe folio]

Shred is also fine

[brave fiber]

Instead of precog i meant, uncanny is best in slot for dueling 4

[untold widget]

I run maniac and damage to specialists because damage to specialists is locked out on mine

i'd run maniac and flak if it wasn't

[severe folio]

you can maybe grab empathic evasion

[quasi junco]

Yea but free damage is free damage. Better than +15 toughness

[left hare]

whats the special attack do for mkiv

[untold widget]

staggers

make sure you hit the weakspot though

[severe folio]

your free damage cost a point

[brave fiber]

Crit voidstrike build with surge hits different

[severe folio]

and that free damage does practically nothing

[untold widget]

pads those green circles

[severe folio]

so its not free damage its a point you loss that wont do what its worth

you dont have to put that point otherwise into another 15 toughness but just because you dont have anywhere else so you put it in wildfire

you might as well unhook that point and play with 29 levels

thats now insignificant that free damage is

[quasi junco]

lol fair point

[brave fiber]

pov: you took wildfire (psyker chat will now crucify you)

[river dawn]

Haven't played a lot of voidstrike and would like some advice on this.

[frigid zenith]

I take wildfire AND kinetic flayer, I must be some kind of heretic.

[echo turtle]

I do the same

[harsh urchin]

flurry to nexus, spec to crit

[quasi junco]

Resonance is better

[sonic coral]

If you take any SB nodes you have to kind of optimize around stacking SB like venting shriek unless you're just sinking a point into the elite kill one and using an uncanny weapon to melt specials on hi shock dam

[frigid zenith]

COOL

[echo turtle]

People say wildfire and flayer is bad, but they don't put out the damage so, I say run it

[sonic coral]

Or trauma blaze

Or etc

[quasi junco]

Resonance turns your BB into a machine gun. Flayer is trash

[sonic coral]

If you CAN stack sb and have uncanny, it's real good

[untold widget]

Rhino, you ever try your build without KF and check your overkill stats?

[echo turtle]

If you are spending time brain bursting, your DPS is bad

[echo turtle]

Yeah, I have

[untold widget]

how'd it go?

I assume you saved the stat screen

[echo turtle]

Without wildfire my soulblaze was around 20% of my damage, with wildfire it's usually closer to 30%

[plucky flax]

45 mins of hell. 4 psykers maelstrom but we had no monster damage

[untold widget]

I was talking about kinetic flayer, that's what KF means

but ok

[quasi junco]

KF would be good if only able to proc on the big scary shit

[plucky flax]

More warpfire damage than the purga user. Xd

[frigid zenith]

45min, jfc. You poor bastard. Is your back tired?

[echo turtle]

Oh KF, that's harder to quantify

I get more out of that than I would from battle meditation or a 5% crit

The flex in my build is between that and empathic really, and I don't think empathic is worth

[quasi junco]

Crit strike build? True aim?

[echo turtle]

Is there a plugin that tracks damage from specific skills?

[plucky flax]

And tru aim. No warp nexus.

[untold widget]

I mean, all the question was about was if you take KF off, would you lose 100k in overkill damage but retain normal damage output

if you don't remember the convo from the other night

[quasi junco]

Oh a non crit VS version. I might have to farm another staff and try it

[echo turtle]

Flayer I notice proc a lot in game, so it's noticable with the surge, it goes off so much it seems like surge may have a chance to proc on both times it applies damage

[plucky flax]

I played a bit bad too but boys were 2 of the psykers really really bad.

[frigid zenith]

Couldn't that be from you applying SB before him though? You basically are getting credit for all the SB damage you apply first even if someone else applies more after you?

[plucky flax]

The 2 trauma players.. clearly trauma need buff.

[untold widget]

it cant. has a 15s cooldown

[echo turtle]

That has nothing to do with what I said

[plucky flax]

Yeah whomever applies soulblaze first will 'own' the stacks from there.

[untold widget]

you said it could proc on both instances of surge staff damage, the rapid initial ticks and the burst at the end. No?

[echo turtle]

No I said it has two opportunities

[plucky flax]

Without flurry it's too slow for me. And if you aim at head level tru aim will proc constantly during horde anyway.

[quasi junco]

Flayer would be good if only Ogyrns/ragers

[frigid zenith]

when I run trauma blaze my warpfire damage is normally 50% of my damage, when someone else running SB anything is in there it goes down a lot.. I know im not doing less though.

[untold widget]

ah I see

[echo turtle]

With the amount it procs, it feels like both instances trigger the chance

[untold widget]

it procs off any damage, so yeah

its just the target is entirely random

and just as likely to overkill a poxwalker than anything you want it on

[plucky flax]

If you run blaze trauma you should always get higher warp fire than the purga user due to much longer reach.

[untold widget]

which is where the overkill comment came from

[frigid zenith]

I run mine with transfer peril, pretty funny, more pew pew.

[plucky flax]

Transfer peril and surge could work too tbh.

[echo turtle]

It procs lots every game I play, so I like it.

And I top damage in almost every game so, I'm happy with it

[frigid zenith]

It's usually someone running void with PC getting stacks on from the longer ranges.

[quasi junco]

I only fully charge on a full hp heretic. Ones already engaged get half tapped

[echo turtle]

The alternative would be empathic evasion or maybe battle meditation in the build I run

[untold widget]

"I like my confirmation bias and refuse to consider any actual fact disproving it"

jees you might be a republican

[plucky flax]

Yeah during horde I don't full charge. I do like 50-70% charge.

[echo turtle]

You play s lot of armchair darktide

I play actual games

[quasi junco]

Crouching and shooting hordes is fun too. I feel like some shit CoD player tho

[harsh urchin]

lol any reasonable point you might've had went out

the instant you brought politics in and started saying this shit

[echo turtle]

Yeah, guy never posts scoreboard so I assume he's another one of the psykers I see in game that can't break 500k to save their lives

[untold widget]

oh no, he can't take a joke

found another one lol

[frigid zenith]

oohhhhh nnoowwww it's a joke.

[echo turtle]

There's jokes, and there's being an ass

[untold widget]

I can't post scoreboard until FS implements it in game

but I carry my games just fine

[echo turtle]

This reminds me of an old cartoon where a guy acts like an idiot and the people tell him to fuck off,then the last panel is "jokes on them, I was just pretending"

You aren't carrying

[untold widget]

right, just killing everything andr eviving people who go down and doing the objectives

[frigid zenith]

wildfire carries my games for sure.

[untold widget]

not carrying

[frigid zenith]

And kentic flayer.

[quasi junco]

Flayer is bad, Trump even said so

[plucky flax]

Poor purga guy even has more direct damage than warpfire damage. I stole all of his warpfire.

[echo turtle]

Yeah, wildfire is great. According to discord wildfire bad

[harsh urchin]

i guess if trump says so then it must be bad

see calliope ur wrong

trump sed so

[frigid zenith]

lol, get fucked filthy purg user.

[echo turtle]

Lol people say flayer bad. Then go deal 500k damage and say they carried

[willow hazel]

Soulblaze damage in multi psyker games is whack. All the damage counts for whoever applied the first stack

[echo turtle]

Then I run the build clock 800k 3 games in a row and the bros wanna help me fix my shit build

[untold widget]

I'd be curious to group with you and see you post my damage

[digital narwhal]

Flayer is statistically more likely to trigger on a Poxwalker than anything else.

[untold widget]

tbh

[frigid zenith]

There's no prizes for second place.

[frigid zenith]

Then fuck them poxwalkers.

[digital narwhal]

fr

[frigid zenith]

They gonna get got.

[plucky flax]

Yes. But I don't spam shriek at 0% peril for 1 stack of soulblaze to inflate my damage. That's not cool.

I always do 83%+ like a proper top 1% psyker.

[echo turtle]

If I get 30 free bursts on specials in a game that's pretty sweet. And that is extremely conservative given I should proc 90 times

[digital narwhal]

Imagine being a poor dude infected with the Walking Pox and then a Psyker says: "And fuck that dude in particular"

[proven belfry]

Wait a point to 15 toughness isnt that worth it?

[quasi junco]

I used to do this on lights out missions.

Need those candles

[plucky flax]

I can't play lights out or ventilation purge. ME poor eyes.

[proven belfry]

Had 1 game. Just came back

[severe folio]

it may be for some people, but i dont tell people what they should put on until i see their build

[digital narwhal]

23 of them triggering on Poxwalkers is fun.
Also, you can get 5 Brain Bursts off in the time it takes Flayer to recharge, and that's pretty bad considering Brain Burst already has an infamously slow charge speed.

[frigid zenith]

trauma staff ground effect lights the way!

[harsh urchin]

usually there are better nodes to take than 15 toughness. but if the choice is between wildfire and 15 toughness; you always pick toughness LOL

[echo turtle]

If you are casting BB you are wasting time

[digital narwhal]

Imagine equipping a Blitz just to not use it

Based

[quasi junco]

That’s why i prefer kinetic resonance

[digital narwhal]

Best way to play BB tbh

[quasi junco]

Pop shield go ham

[hearty oak]

Thought there was a mod that removes fog

[untold widget]

Grond, his point is that KF procs mostly on the things he wants it to because he uses surge staff which is perfectly accurate single target damage

[frigid zenith]

Do you work for the snipers guild or something?

[proven belfry]

Lmao point taken

[plucky flax]

Is there? I need it.

[echo turtle]

Yup, it's not worth using unless you just cannot reach a sniper far away

Staff range is far enough most of the time

[untold widget]

famously

[frigid zenith]

My trauma staff just cried a little bit.

[hearty oak]

Don't know if it's with reshade or something. Someone mentioned in passing and that was what I heard

[frigid zenith]

I use BB all the time.

[echo turtle]

Smite is useless other than to push awar bursters

[digital narwhal]

Empowered Psionics Brain Burst looping on Gunners, Shotgunners, and Ragers that are yet to reach the team is dead then

[plucky flax]

You are clearly top 0.5%.

[digital narwhal]

Awesome

[echo turtle]

Lol that's a low DPS build

A surge staff kills spelites faster than BB

[digital narwhal]

Crazy thought:
Not everyone uses Surge Staff

[proven belfry]

Sadly ive had times that i cant BB a normal rager. The breakpoint has gotten weirder this patch

[quasi junco]

Low-med range yea

[untold widget]

he's still thinking we're talking about his 800k damage and not his 500k overkill damage from kf proccing on groaners

[digital narwhal]

[echo turtle]

Yeah and most people can't break 500k damage in a game

[frigid zenith]

I never get 500k, games finish too fast.

[echo turtle]

If you use void, you don't red to be bursting

What staff wants to burst? Purgatus?

[quasi junco]

lol Rhino sounds like the type of player that leaves people down to keep boosting that leet dps

[echo turtle]

I can't remember the last time I had under 600

[severe folio]

he’s still think that putting 1 soulblaze on a million poxwalker gonna make his 200k warpfire looks good

[plucky flax]

I certainly don't.

[digital narwhal]

Trauma.
Also, Gun Psykers use Brain Burst.
Brain Burst is also useful for Purgatus, yes.

So.

[proven belfry]

Im glad smite doesnt make you burst

[plucky flax]

Do you use the ovenproof scoreboard or the default?

[hearty oak]

I wonder what this conversation would be like if scoreboard didn't track damage

[echo turtle]

Ovenproof

[static needle]

Which one should i yoink?

[plucky flax]

[frigid zenith]

So if I get over 1m damage but I used BB I'm a bad right?

[plucky flax]

God gamer. 🙇‍♂️

[severe folio]

keep rampage

[echo turtle]

No, but I think you could have gotten more

[severe folio]

because youll get a better sword eventually

[frigid zenith]

That's rather obtuse. I can't decide if you're trolling or actually a dum dum.

[untold widget]

he gets 800k damage a game, he's obviously an expert. those green circles means he's god tier

[echo turtle]

I'm just stating BB is pretty lackluster for DPS and there's usually more efficient things to do with your time

Taking EP is a huge opportunity cost loss

[willow hazel]

Why use BB over Assail with guns?

[plucky flax]

I thought I was okay but then I don't do 800k every game so turn out I'm just a noob.

[digital narwhal]

Fun

[untold widget]

guns are actually what I use KF for, since they're single target and you can control what it procs on

[frigid zenith]

Who said anything about taking EP and using it for dps? It's a tool. USe it all the time when nothing else will reach the target.

[echo turtle]

That being said I take BB and use it when needed, but BB is like smite in that way. There's a time and a place and if you use it when it's not efficient you are going to underperform

[wicked hornet]

what is the lowest lvl acceptable to start doing difficulty 4? in yalls opinion

[digital narwhal]

I mostly use Assail, but sometimes a change of pace is nice

[echo turtle]

I used it more with purgatus, but I dropped that staff as I got more soulblaze with surge anyways

[frigid zenith]

You use BB too, so get wrecked noob.

[plucky flax]

Sub 30 people go to tier 5 so just do whatever you want mane.

[quasi junco]

15

[willow hazel]

~10

[untold widget]

whenever you can handle it

[plucky flax]

That's tru sometimes I even forgot I have it equipped.

[echo turtle]

With surge and void, it's pretty rare stuff is out of reach

[frigid zenith]

And flayer aannddd wildfire... epic noob. How do you even carry games/

[plucky flax]

That's the secret. I get carried every single game.

[digital narwhal]

Void, yes.
Surge, I can think of examples.
Specifically on Mercantile and Consignment Yard.

[plucky flax]

It's deepfake AI generated contents.

[frigid zenith]

I only come in here while I'm at work for entertainment. This shit never fails.

[echo turtle]

I stan for flayer, hell I simp for it even

[plucky flax]

Me clutch? Nah never happened.

[quasi junco]

lol this conversation is why FS didn’t add their own scoreboard

[untold widget]

they learned from VT toxicity

[frigid zenith]

The scoreboard is kinda fucking stupid sometimes.

[echo turtle]

If they had scoreboard and health bars I guarantee less psykers would spam smite

[lyric burrow]

Its cause you use blazing trauma which is too weak it needs buff

[untold widget]

smite isn't for damage

[digital narwhal]

Do you just play for damage?

[echo turtle]

Yet people think it is

[harsh urchin]

I'm support psyker guyz

[plucky flax]

This is actually true.

[untold widget]

yes, he does

[frigid zenith]

I will fuck up all your scroreboards with my smite build.

[harsh urchin]

xdd

[sacred crane]

Smite > Assail just saying

[willow hazel]

not even close

[frigid zenith]

you ain't gonna do over 250k becasue everything's gonna be dead.

[untold widget]

assail locking out psykinetic's aura is annoying tbh

[echo turtle]

I kill enemies, someone has to do it

I run surge with also adds lots of CC, and I take 70% block efficiency and run 8 stam to get revives

[digital narwhal]

The Scoreboard doesn't show how the Ogryn saved 3 people pinned by Dogs and Muties by using their Taunt.
It doesn't show how the Psyker saved two teammates from going down with a Shield.
It doesn't show how the Zealot stayed glued to a Plasma Vet so they could focus on HPTs.

[willow hazel]

it's good from a balance perspective though

[frozen osprey]

Ive been enlightened recently this is factual

[frigid zenith]

Maybe if you were better your team would have lived.

[echo turtle]

Lol, you think I am not dealing with specialists?

[proven belfry]

Damn I want a surge on voidstaff badly.

[plucky flax]

What'll happen when I do 800k damage with smite (and surge)?

[proven belfry]

Gotta have to start farmin ir

[echo turtle]

Yeah I wish I was as good as you guys, I just need carries

[quasi junco]

Grind blues

[frigid zenith]

Sir, I firmly believe that if you would run revolver instead of surge it would have been over 1m.

[proven belfry]

I usually just grind greens

[sacred crane]

Smite has more use than assail, mostly because its more supportive

[echo turtle]

Then I'll take you seriously when you say flayer bad, wildfire bad

[quasi junco]

Blessings are in blues

[plucky flax]

Wildfire is gud

[echo turtle]

Ikr

[plucky flax]

I don't use flayer so no comment from me.

[frigid zenith]

Did you move to deflector

[proven belfry]

Yeah pretty much. I get agreen and its just 1 upgrade away for a blessing

[digital narwhal]

Where tf did I say that?

[echo turtle]

It's fine, for now talent point I like ir

[plucky flax]

Deflector? The force sword blessing?

[hearty oak]

Flayer is fun on colum mk 5. Like a garentee you will get a flayer off

[digital narwhal]

Holy assumption.

[sacred crane]

I like deflector because fuck gunners

[frigid zenith]

Yeah, move your point from flayer to the deflector talent.

[echo turtle]

You are constructing scenarios where scoreboard doesn't represent your team play, asserting I am not team playing. Which is a bullshit arguement

[plucky flax]

Wait which build are you asking?

[frigid zenith]

Any of them where you would have used flayer previously.

[echo turtle]

I dropped KD to save two points

[digital narwhal]

You keep going on about damage though, especially with "Less Psykers would use Smite if there was a Scoreboard"

[plucky flax]

I never have flayer!

When I run bb it's just vanilla bb.

[proven belfry]

So possible to get higher chancw of tier 4 blessings from upgrading a green than upgrading a purple right?

[frigid zenith]

Sir, there is literally video evidence.

[echo turtle]

They would, I have watched people spam it into bosses and a single bulwark

[plucky flax]

Which one?

[sacred crane]

I like being shamed for getting 100 kills in a match while playing support psyker 🔥🔥🔥

[frozen osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[plucky flax]

I used to run flayer pre-13 when I played surge staff.

[frigid zenith]

I don't fucking know, but I'm sure it's there.

[plucky flax]

But post 13 I haven't touched flayer.

[hollow jolt]

Brb going to solo a chaos spawn with a smite charge 💪💪

[echo turtle]

Gl

[plucky flax]

I didn't post full gameplay pre 13.

[frigid zenith]

Naawww, I think your TB build had flayer awhile back.

[frozen osprey]

I think it's called inexperience and it comes with learning the game/class

[frigid zenith]

I could be misremembering, fuck, now I'm gonna have to find it.

Fuck If I can remember what your youtube shit is called though.

[hollow jolt]

Does it really take experience to see a weapon do 20 damage and know its not good vs bosses lmao

[plucky flax]

No my first iteration of blaze trauma was made the day of patch 13. It was this @frigid zenith
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qP0kFOiV6ag

[echo turtle]

Health bars and score gives you the feedback to make informed decisions

People put 50 hours in having no clue the damage they do

[plucky flax]

Build was shown at the start and no flayer.

It's outdated now though my current blaze trauma build is different.

[vast sonnet]

How does "In fire reborn" work exactly? Does it exclusively have to be soulblaze that kills an enemy for the warp charge, or it's weird and it counts even if something else kills them as long as they have a burn effect?

[hollow jolt]

To be fair, you don't really need a scoreboard or hp to know a weapon that takes 20 sec to kill a poxwalker isn't killing a plague ogryn

[frigid zenith]

Probably misremembering then. I haven't run TB in awhile since I've been smashing shit with smite. What did you change? Shit looked like it was working out pretty well.

[severe folio]

they want to enfeeble him

[copper torrent]

The latter

[left hare]

which stave is better to delete special/unyielding

[vast sonnet]

Is that a bug or the description is wrong then?

[harsh urchin]

scoreboard sure

but healthbars on enemies is kinda cheating

[fluid knot]

Its very borderline

[harsh urchin]

you are getting access to information that is deliberately concealed

especially since health bars exist in the meat grinder

but they're purposefully obfuscated in the real game

[orchid shadow]

Maybe, but it may not be for the reason to make it more difficult. Health bars create UI clutter in an already visually spastic game.

[fossil blade]

Anyone willing to help with the psyker brain burst monstrosity penance?

Will help with any penances needed in retrurn

[viscid matrix]

It’s written wrong, as long as they are lit up when they die, you have a chance of getting a warp charge

FS is known to be misleading or wrong in tooltips

[viscid matrix]

#vox-lfg-lexicanum go look for a group in the LFG channels
That’s what they are for

[orchid shadow]

I can totally see creative directors opting to not make Health bars readily available for visual purposes.

[fluid knot]

It doesnt change difficulty, but it is information you otherwise dont have. So it is very questionable

[fallen zodiac]

it's also ugly

[fluid knot]

Aye, certainly is that

[viscid matrix]

I swear I read a comment how the lead designer hates min max and doesn’t want to give us info, don’t know if it’s true tho

[untold widget]

sorry, had to go carry a game my buddy was in

what were we fighting about again?

[fluid knot]

Mighta been from the old bloke, iirc, the lead designer was replaced a few months back

[kindred veldt]

It does change difficulty, I have one shot, there are two crushers, I can see one is low enough to die to a single shot, the other is not

With health bars the game is marginally easier

[fallen zodiac]

they said that back in beta iirc to justify not giving you any stats about your guns besides the bars

[fluid knot]

We can't really min-max anyway because we dont get full stat bars

[viscid matrix]

The health bars in the meat grinder arnt consistent either, wouldn’t be surprised if they were left out of normal maps because it’s bugged

[orchid shadow]

Of course, but he same can be said with scoreboards. Aside from "player toxicity" and other reasons, a variety of reasons can all add up to them not including something. Health bars can be visual clutter, to promotional video decisions (ie not want it shown during trailiers) to bugs.

[fluid knot]

Not really, Scoreboard isnt giving your information that could potentially effect how you play, its simply a readout of what actions you have commited to

[untold widget]

although the toxicity arising from scoreboard is not nothing

[viscid matrix]

Sometimes they don’t appear when you shoot enemies in the meatgrinder, it’s inconsistent if the health bar appears if you hit an enemy

Scoreboard isn’t consistent either, 2 different people can see 2 different scoreboard numbers
Fairly sure it’s part of the game that was removed but not from the code

[fluid knot]

Not gona lie, i find that a very bogus excuse for not having one. There is a subset of people that would be ass-warts without a scoreboard, i dont think its existence has any bearing on it whatsoever

Theres always a group of people who thinks themselves above everyone else, in every game throughout history

[orchid shadow]

Of course it is. Any information, bad or good, dictates future decisions thus affects how you play. You think if someone sees they're doing top damage because of certain builds and styles isn't going to affect how people gravitate toward a meta?

[untold niche]

any resource with blessings of each weapon
and their level stats

[fluid knot]

Thats not the same as giving you information whilst you're playing. Its stuff that effects your decision making post match, not in-match

[fallen zodiac]

darktide.gameslantern

[untold niche]

thanjks dude

[viscid matrix]

Check the pins for the psyker guide, it has weapons and blessings tiers
No damage numbers tho

[orchid shadow]

But the point still stands that it's information that you wouldn't have in the first place.

[fallen zodiac]

I'm kinda tired of the scoreboard. seeing other ppl perform poorly in the numbers is slowly turning me elitist

[untold niche]

doesnt show stats for each level

[fluid knot]

Well thats not strictly true either, you could peice together the information just by keeping half an eye on the killfeed throughout a mission

[viscid matrix]

Again, it was inconsistent, different players see different numbers, was probably scrapped and disconnected, and a modder just relinked it back up

[frigid zenith]

Scoreboard only tells the story of classes who are build to do damage.

[fluid knot]

Scoreboard is just a more accurate representation

[frigid zenith]

Direct damage actually.

[harsh urchin]

divide each chunk into 4 levels

and bam,

you have learned how to do basic math

[fluid knot]

Maths is hard

[jaunty gust]

So, uh. Do you have to fully charge the voidstrike to get the most out of it?

[untold niche]

how woild i know they scale equally :v

[viscid matrix]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/weapons

[viscid matrix]

Yes

[orchid shadow]

That same could be said then for health bars, like card counting. See who's on fire. See who's fighting what. How many times did you hit something, vs how many times you hit it in the gym to determine how many is left to kill.

But it's all clutter that the mods help to visualize.

[fluid knot]

That is an incredible reach of logic. There is zero indication of how much damage you're doing to a single target, or indeed multiple targets. Killfeed tells you in no uncertain terms who is killing the most things. Unless you've managed to somehow memorise every damage number your build can put out, and even then, you still cant effectively estimate anything close to what HP bars give you due to enemy volume

[fallen zodiac]

if you're on pc, with the Reveal Blessings mod u can see all the applicable blessings and their info when u go to re-bless

[viscid matrix]

Lowest is tier 1 with 3.5 and 14
Highest is 5 and 20
2 and 3 are in between

It doesn’t matter, since once you get tier 4 the rest can fuck off and go in the bin

[orchid shadow]

There is information though. To say we have zero information is false, seeing as we have breakdowns for each weapon. We know there are breakpoints through gym testing and the armor types, even without the use of mods.

[untold niche]

ah thanks will keep in mijd

[untold niche]

hmmm so you pretty much want to get a level 4

/ roll until you get a lvl 4 to rip

[viscid matrix]

Always

[echo turtle]

For the folks who rate flayer as a dead skill point.

I'm going to drop it for battle meditation and see how that goes. The only other worthwhile option within reach is empathic evasion

Y'all reckon that's the right choice?

[fallen zodiac]

unless it's a blessing that is only up to tier 2/3

[fluid knot]

You do, you're correct, but you're unlikely to memorize those numbers fully and be able to apply them in game because of mechanics like DoTs an Cleave, not to mention you dont know what damage your teammates are putting out without HP bars, so you have no way of effectively estimating who is doing the most damage, so again, you're not privvy to that information during a game

[waxen abyss]

All Staff blessings are NOT shared between one another despite all nearly being the same, right?

So if I took a trauma staff Surge blessing, it would not show up on Voidstrike?

[echo turtle]

Correct

[waxen abyss]

Sadness

[echo turtle]

Indeed

Sadness is the path of the psyker

It's true to the lore

[waxen abyss]

after goofing around with a trauma surge blessing for a few matches, i've learned i would probably love the playstyle of a voidstrike surge staff

so now i know what to grind for at least

[flat magnet]

Sadly it does not and it is painful

I spent

Too much plasteel trying to get surge for the void strike

[echo turtle]

Surge void slaps

[fallen zodiac]

I've made 3 psykers trying to get surge to show up in melk

[waxen abyss]

funny stuff

[flat magnet]

Yea

There's a talent just above disrupt destiny
Like
5 weakpoint hits and your next ranged attack is a crit
It is crazy with Smite and a surge staff

[viscid matrix]

Painful…… it adds maybe a few days to getting another set of blessings saved into the book for the new weapon, plus a usable weapon in endgame

[untold niche]

i wasted all my plastell ojn like around 20 trascendent rolls of revolvo to try to get surgical

[waxen abyss]

Even if it's not hard to get, doesn't make it any less annoying to feel 'cheated'. It's just how the human brain works

even incomparable minds

[untold niche]

and i dont want to pl;ay normal damn becauise i found it too easy
i rather have fun with a long grind than not fun but short grind

[flat magnet]

Oh yea
Question

Does the rating of an item affect the chance of blessings?
Like
Is a 360 more likely to get a T4 blessing than a 300

[untold niche]

iirc transcendent more likely to get you a t4
In terms of base rating idk, but i dun think so

[flat magnet]

Okay fair

I have like
3 transcendant void staves with the exact
Same
Blessings

[late yew]

Yes

[late yew]

shut up

[waxen abyss]

Well in the meantime I got this staff ;D

Any suggestions for which perk to change? I imagine I would change infested to... maniac damage. Good idea?

[half iron]

skibidi toilet

[untold widget]

yeah maniac or flak

[harsh urchin]

my suggestion is changing cara -> crit

[waxen abyss]

oh?

[untold widget]

i disagree

[waxen abyss]

well i gotta choose carefully can only change one of the perks

[untold widget]

damage to infested pretty meh

[harsh urchin]

that's a blazing trauma staff so you want as much crit as possible

[waxen abyss]

yeah i want to 420 blaze it

[harsh urchin]

I suggest you follow this guide: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959
Or listen to me

cuz calliope has no idea wtf he's talking about

[untold widget]

right

never mind you can force crits with true aim

[quasi junco]

And a crit Void build too

[harsh urchin]

yeah see? you have no idea what the fuck you're talking about

that's a trauma staff

gl getting true aim with that LOL

[untold widget]

you don't get true aim with the trauma staff you dullard

you get it with melee or smite or whatever

[waxen abyss]

OK so crit or not crit aside i have a question, why change carapace perk and not infested perk?

[quasi junco]

Voidstrike 😎

[half iron]

stub

[harsh urchin]

The reason is since you don't have rending on it, the TTK to kill crushers is not great. Next, since trauma isn't a weakpoint weapon, carapace will literally only apply to one enemy type.

Because of that, I suggest keeping infested so you can kill poxwalkers and dogs faster

[quasi junco]

You also only aim at crushers to stumble them really. Let the vets/zealots eat them up

[fallen zodiac]

open up those cans urself w deimos/ds

[quasi junco]

Or stumble them so they don’t skill issue my team 😛

[waxen abyss]

I see, sorry for the silly question and thanks

[fallen zodiac]

WHA never be sorry

[quasi junco]

Only be sorry if you run recon gunker

[fallen zodiac]

no, do it shamelessly. NEVER CONFORM

[half iron]

stub gunker cooler

[fallen zodiac]

yes plz

just need to make a new revolver on my third class

[half iron]

my psyker’s revolver is shit. my zealot stole my godroll
still won’t stop me from using it until i get a cool one

[fallen zodiac]

what's your melee

[half iron]

on zealot or psyker

[fallen zodiac]

psyker

to pair w revolver

[half iron]

swapping between ds and fs

[fallen zodiac]

[half iron]

duelling sword is a cute little weapon

[plucky flax]

[half iron]

if psykers get a force shovel i’d use it

[plucky flax]

Wait mk 2 duelling sword has the same heavy 1 stab as 4 but it does less damage.

Just realised. FS definitely fucked it up.

[half iron]

what haven’t they fucked up?

i haven’t gotten a good psyker collar in ages

[plucky flax]

[echo turtle]

I gave removing flayer a go, I wouldn't say I am against flayer yet by the results, but I am very much for battle meditation for the staff uptime I got from that

[untold widget]

what was the overkill this time?

[echo turtle]

Lemme check

[plucky flax]

Ovenproof scoreboard doesn't give overkill.

[echo turtle]

I am afk, gimme 2 mins

[echo turtle]

I may be able to set it to show? It has all the normal scoreboard stuff as an option I think. My buddy was in the game with me I think he runs the base scoreboard if I can't get ut

[plucky flax]

Unless you use both default as well as ovenproof.

But then your scoreboard might be long af.

Anyway the default scoreboard is not that accurate. It's often very inflated.

[echo turtle]

770 damage, 350 overkill

[old delta]

Guys, real quick, is there a better Duel Sword? Or all of they are considered good?

[echo turtle]

Without flayer

[eager mantle]

Red handle gang or get out

[quasi junco]

What mission difficulty?

[echo turtle]

Damnation, stg

Was one of the Aurics

[quasi junco]

I’ve had games where no one goes above 500

[small dust]

Smite + Disrupt Destiny? Seeing as it seems to target weakspots, and DD is invariably on mooks...

[quasi junco]

Oh 👍

[echo turtle]

I did 770, next up was 450, 380, 220

[quasi junco]

Blaze trauma build?

[echo turtle]

Surge shriek

[quasi junco]

With smite?

[echo turtle]

So like I said before, the overkill is from the staff, not massively inflated by flayer

[echo turtle]

Naw I took brain burst

I just didn't put points into it

[plucky flax]

Post scoreboard? Is that ovenproof damage or default damage?

[echo turtle]

Yeah sure, mine is ovenproof

mission time was 30 minutes

[plucky flax]

Where is the most important stat plasteels pickup?

[echo turtle]

the only score that truly matters

[half iron]

i need my plasteel

[plucky flax]

Damage AND plasteels.

[echo turtle]

Deadly

How many points you have in siphon?

I am all the way in but considering pulling the last two

[plucky flax]

I have 6 warp charges.

[half iron]

i fear the person that fights and collects materials

[lunar hollow]

hell yeah

all my games i pick up 400+ now lol

[plucky flax]

I search every corners.

[echo turtle]

Yeah it feels good

I kind of want empathic buuuut

Eh

[plucky flax]

If a game finishes without at least 700 plasteels it's a lost game.

[lunar hollow]

[echo turtle]

I still need bloodthirsty for an illisi

[lunar hollow]

i always shoot for 650+ because sometimes u just gota keep movin

i will not be caught 30 meters away from an airlock when everyone else is waitin on me

[quasi junco]

Feats? Is this pre patch 13?

[bleak tulip]

the only two metrics that matter

[plucky flax]

No it's current patch.

[echo turtle]

Selfish runs the same build I do on that board

[plucky flax]

The numbers are ability-blitz-aura-keystone.

[echo turtle]

I got the build from them so, it should be pretty close

[plucky flax]

Tbh for me plasteels most important. Idc if I get low damage but as long as we get them plasteels I'm happy.

I need plasteels to fuel my memes.

(Don't try mk2 duelling sword)

[quasi junco]

You prefer CDR over crit chance for aura on surge?

[bleak tulip]

was mk2 the one that has the same stab as 4 but just worse

[plucky flax]

Yeah always. CDR aura is the best by far.

[bleak tulip]

inexplicably

[quasi junco]

Oh, I take crit perks on surge/void and crit aura. I need crits

[plucky flax]

Yeah so I upgraded a bunch of mk2 to get an ideal one, THEN I tested, and I was like.. I am

[quasi junco]

Especially as mettle is one of my only toughness talents

[bleak tulip]

its fine keep it for when they buff 2 to the same power level as 4

any day now

[plucky flax]

Yeah hopefully they buff mk2 and mk5 duelling sword heavies to do the same as 4.

Then I go back to 5 tbh. It's got swag.

[plucky flax]

The cdr is like 17.5%, not 10%. So just the aura alone brings your shriek from 30s to 22s or something.

[quasi junco]

Misprint on tooltip?

[plucky flax]

Or just typical FartShart stamp of approval.

[quasi junco]

lol

[plucky flax]

Anyway for me the cd aura is best by far.

It helps out the whole team.

But me mostly. Xd

With 6 warp charges your shriek goes to like 13s cd.

If you kill 2 or 3 specials during that time it's back up again.

[quasi junco]

This is badass lol, but mah shield 😢

[harsh urchin]

CDR in this game is also additive with itself

which means stacking CDR gives you obscene value

[plucky flax]

If you prefer shield keep using it. But I myself find more value out of shriek. Can shout at shooters then run away, or stagger ragers pack.

[half iron]

i main ds 5
would like a 4 though🥺

[plucky flax]

The 4 heavy's got bonker damage for no reason so it's not super hard to find a decent one. Put maniac and uncanny on it, 2 core stats. The 2nd blessing can be whatever you like between precog, riposte, shred, or rampage.

2nd perk is low priority but I like one with carapace to poke crushers to death faster.

[half iron]

i’m not getting cute rolls out of my 4’s

[plucky flax]

Also uncanny 3 and 4 does the same damage at 5 stacks, so you don't need to grind for uncanny t4.

[half iron]

if the ds is on another class it’d get a good roll before my psyker

[left hare]

I dont understand how mkiv reaches two shot breakpoint on elites

[spice veldt]

encourage them by holding your mk4's at gunpoint

[half iron]

carefully

[plucky flax]

It's just FartShart. They just gave mk4 heavies some ridiculous damage and shafted mk2 and mk5 without any explanation.

[spice veldt]

by dealing ~40% more damage than the other marks for no discernably good reason

[left hare]

Is it heavy 1 with high peril and 6 warp stacks

[half iron]

i don’t give a fuck if i go blind. i don’t need to see the plasteel anyway

[digital narwhal]

I posted this around in some places, and some people are losing their minds.

I didn't expect such a violent reaction to a meme.

[plucky flax]

They're like "Hey different variations of the same family of weapons with identical attack type do the same damage. But what if we just meme it up and make mk4 duelling sword does more damage than the others. Devil's claw, combat axe, tactical axe who? xd"

[spice veldt]

shrimply study the weapon damage tables before using a weapon

[half iron]

it’s not the stub😾

[slender coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/tf2-votekick-accused-cheating-kick-gif-14262126452357813753

[untold widget]

Interesting

so your overall damage was slightly less by 27k, but your overkill dropped by 50k

and mission type and length probably makes that vary slightly

[fluid knot]

Ovenproof?

[untold widget]

different scoreboard mod probably

[plucky flax]

Addon for scoreboard mod. Track more damage types and more accurate
https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/241

[calm violet]

I havr been testing this gunker build on Heresy and Damnation. I don't have the gear portion yet, which I feel is holding me back a bit. But I wanted thoughts on it?

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9ab60fbd-5c62-46b2-bb7d-71a1462e4d86/grammatan-psyker-gunker

[fluid knot]

Oh awesome, nice one 🙏

[untold widget]

That a play on Equilibrium's Grammaton Clerics?

[hardy tulip]

You expect people to use their brains? Good luck with that.

[digital narwhal]

[hardy tulip]

Unless it was on purpose.

[calm violet]

Yes.

[untold widget]

nice

[calm violet]

Thanks. Makes my day someone caught it. Lol

[untold widget]

jees so much top tree

I'd probably drop warp expenditure for kinetic deflection

but I'm a simp for KD

[calm violet]

Lol

[echo turtle]

Force sword 57 rolled transcendent, still no blood thirsty 😦

[calm violet]

I haven't played with it much. Is it that good?

[untold widget]

do you enjoy getting your block broken?

[calm violet]

Nope. Lol

[untold widget]

when reviving and such

then yeah, it's awesome

[calm violet]

I'll toss it on there and try.

[untold widget]

like, with KD and venting shriek I can tank a demonhost with a combat knife

which is probably the least defensive weapon psyker has

[calm violet]

Not sure about deopping warp expenditure for it though. That perk is pretty solid.

Seriously? That's bananas.

[untold widget]

I dont tend to run it because if I'm generating peril then I'm not taking damage generally

and if I take damage, I can quell/kill/crit depending on if I'm running quietude or mettle or some such