psyker-class

[tulip trench]

if you roll handcannon youll be ok

but not amazing

[zinc phoenix]

Yeah but if I’m dd/sg I almost certainly have assail for that and assail is ez headshot

[upbeat parcel]

there goes 100k dockets with no good revolver then

[tulip trench]

if you dont have a good one already

thats worth using

[upbeat parcel]

ye I have no revolvers

[woeful patio]

Fragment of Emperor

[zinc phoenix]

Imagine thinking this is a lot to blow on rolling weapons from brunt 😂

[tulip trench]

id use it then
worst case you farm blessings from it

[upbeat parcel]

bro I'm broke my voidstrike spending still haunts me

[woeful patio]

I spent over 500k credits trying to get a surge over 369

Nothing

I don’t even have Plasteel anymore only Dismantine

[upbeat parcel]

the grind is real

[zinc phoenix]

Emprah blessed you with nice and you disdain, smited

[woeful patio]

I’m broke in every department but Melk coins

Which are worthless

As he NEVER HAS ANYTHING GOOD

[zinc phoenix]

Melk bucks are a gateway to t4 blessings

[upbeat parcel]

Hadron: The emperor is most generous

shit blessing III

[tulip trench]

heresy

but relatable

[woeful patio]

Hadron gives me Warp Nexus I when all I wanna do is be her pet and love her and fawn over her

[zinc phoenix]

Melk out here retailing dual t4 blessing weapons and people be dissing, that shit costs so much to roll for with hardon

[woeful patio]

I wanna sniff her chair

[upbeat parcel]

Hadron berate me more

[woeful patio]

When she calls me Varlet I blush

[zinc phoenix]

Hardon is a thief and a toolbag

[woeful patio]

He gives me absolute dogshit I have nothing to spend my weeklies on

[zinc phoenix]

I hope she sits in a tub

And fries like the toaster she is

[woeful patio]

His entire selection is firearms I’ll never use because Staff Supremacy and the ONE curio he offers isn’t even max blessing

Like WOW! Another 15% toughness Curio

[zinc phoenix]

Guns are better tho

[woeful patio]

Thanks Melk

[upbeat parcel]

honestly the better rolls I get is usually from the daily docket shop

on just base stats

[woeful patio]

Incorrect + L + Gluten Intolerance

[zinc phoenix]

I’m not 12 so idk what that means

[woeful patio]

But yeah Brunt sells better stuff than Melk

90% of the time

[upbeat parcel]

not even daily, hourly

I check after every mission

[woeful patio]

I wish Melks random shit had better stat rolls or something

[spice veldt]

assail is not competing with guns for single-target

[woeful patio]

Like guaranteed 370 minimum

Or something to that level

[spice veldt]

go into the psykhanium and time it

[zinc phoenix]

I’m talking specialist sniping which assail does well

[spice veldt]

and assail's ammo economy was slightly nerfed so you'll have to use other weapons in the meantime

[zinc phoenix]

Not blapping down bosses and other big single target which Columbus does better than Vraks imo

[upbeat parcel]

assail is great for snipers and bombers but anything above that it'll take more than one shot

[spice veldt]

well yeah if you're comparing against the performance against maniacs

with a weapon family that has ~60% adm to maniac lamayo

[woeful patio]

Yes but my staves have infinite ammo

And BB has pinpoint accuracy

[zinc phoenix]

I can’t tell if you’re trying to agree with me or having a stroke 😂

Tldr I am running Columbus on my gunker over vraks

[spice veldt]

i didn't realize that you were comparing for the specific case against maniac enemies

and not single-target in general

[zinc phoenix]

Bosses aren’t maniac they’re unyielding?

[upbeat parcel]

hadron why....

[spice veldt]

this

also headhunters have <100% adm against unyielding

[zinc phoenix]

What do you mean with that?

I don’t generally math in this game

[spice veldt]

oh adm = armour damage modifiers

[zinc phoenix]

Ok

[upbeat parcel]

don't play vet then those mofos be solving equations for damage thresholds

[spice veldt]

e.g., vraks 3 deals 145 to unarmoured and 96 damage to unyielding

[woeful patio]

Mmm yes but how does this affect the Warp Nexus Crit economy

[zinc phoenix]

I guess what I’m trying and failing to communicate is that vraks doesn’t feel like it brings something new to the assail/dueling sword loadout I’ve got

But Columbus feels like it does

[upbeat parcel]

what are these numbers

I play psyker so I don't have to think

just warp go brrrr

[zinc phoenix]

If I need to I can mag dump a horde of ragers or a boss at close range and get results with Columbus, vrak is too slow at that range. And at long range I’m going with assail most of the time for gunners and ragers over vraks

If I pop scryer Columbus even seems to crit blast down crushers and stuff

[spice veldt]

yeah I prefer the Columnus too cuz 4-shot crit string and better adms

doesn't have headhunter but we also have true aim

[digital narwhal]

Fellas, Surge isn't truly fixed is it?

Anyone mind giving me a rundown on it's current state?

I recall it being mentioned that the hotfix didn't properly fix it, ye?

[woeful patio]

Not fixed

Still random

[digital narwhal]

Thought so

Cheers

[zealous oak]

Does anyone have a good/fun poke-em (Mk IV) duelling sword build I can nab?

[hot zephyr]

What do you want paired with the DS4?

[digital narwhal]

This is not okay.

wtf is up with the Columnus iron sights?

[zealous oak]

I hadn't decided, but I guess purgatron would counter the weaknesses of the sword, so I might just run it with my crit-flames build

I wanted to use a force sword but Hadron has fucked me too many times there and I'm salty

[hot zephyr]

I run an assail/shriek/flames build. Can post in a second

[hot zephyr]

It's not the "best" build possible I'm sure, but I have really great results with it.

[zealous oak]

Is there an easy way (mod?) to take a screenshot of the entire tree, btw?

Oh wait, that's from the build editor

[hot zephyr]

I just use the website with the talent tool

[zealous oak]

Derp

[bleak tulip]

is this salvageable at all I dont think so huh

thinking maaybe sustained isnt shit

but it probably is huh

[zealous oak]

that looks pretty similar to my flame build actually, 'cept I run more crit stuff for the burn stacks

charge is fun tho, so a good shout for sword pokin'

[digital narwhal]

You have a 3/4 there tbh

Stamina to Flak, and Hit & Run to DumDum if you plan to use Empathic Evasion

If no EA, then Sustained Fire to DumDum

[bleak tulip]

hm

[hot zephyr]

Sustained is great usually. Just not on the colmunus... It's possible to salvage it because maniacs is great but you'll have to live with a choice between dumdum and fire frenzy to replace sustained fire.

[hot zephyr]

I'm stunned you aren't running the keystone for stacks from soulblaze kills

[plucky flax]

I use sustain fire.

[bleak tulip]

I dont know if that reassures me

[plucky flax]

[bleak tulip]

[plucky flax]

You're talking to top 1% psyker.

[bleak tulip]

right how could I forget

sedition master

[plucky flax]

I did maelstrom earlier with 0 hp damage taken.

Veri cool.

[bleak tulip]

[static needle]

Does gunner resistance help against reapers?

[bleak tulip]

uhh yes I think

[plucky flax]

Yeah reapers and the 2 elite gunners.

No shotgunners though so run away from them.

[ornate hamlet]

What's better to put on my surge staff: specialist bonus damage or flak armor damage?

[plucky flax]

Flak for sure.

[hot zephyr]

Flak is my default goto on any ranged weapon

[ornate hamlet]

Fair enough

Ty

[white hemlock]

Melk has this. Worth grabbing?

[bleak tulip]

yeah you can make that into a non blaze trauma if you want

[ornate hamlet]

Near perfect godroll, decent blessings, good perks

I would

[white hemlock]

Aight sweet, I thought it looked good. What should I roll on it then?

[ornate hamlet]

I would definitely keep the rending shockwave

[narrow lichen]

Am I alone in thinking that brain burst takes way too long to charge

[ornate hamlet]

Might go good with warp flurry

[ornate hamlet]

There are perks to fix that

[untold widget]

It does, but the things you're gonna be brain bursting tend to give sound queues before they're visible. Use that time to get safe and pre-charge

[sonic coral]

You can precharge or take cool down post ult and pop a bunch in a row or take ep and do the same thing but with even more cool down and bonus damage too

So yes

[ornate hamlet]

Personally I pop my class ability and spam BB in a room full of elites

[sonic coral]

BB is anything but underpowered, its (quick) charge time is the only limiter

[ornate hamlet]

The best part of it is the range and how you can keep charging after you've targeted, so you can duck into cover and that guy's gonna be dead

[untold widget]

Most likely from a vet headshot

[ornate hamlet]

Sometimes more often than not

[white hemlock]

WF and Rending sounds good, what about persk?

[narrow lichen]

But when your using vent shriek which is down that tree its counter-intuituve

you would want to pop combat after gaining peril

[ornate hamlet]

I've out bursted many a vet so

[untold widget]

left side stuff isn't just for left side builds.

[narrow lichen]

i get that

[untold widget]

get zig zaggy with it

[sonic coral]

How so? You vent, preferably at high peril, then pop

[ornate hamlet]

Hard to say, really. Can't go wrong with flak bonus damage

[narrow lichen]

to get that high peril it would take too long

[sonic coral]

[untold widget]

You're not trying hard enough lol

[ornate hamlet]

Just keep in mind you're only gonna be able to mod two things on that staff @white hemlock

[narrow lichen]

i get my peril way faster with assail and zap

[untold widget]

Peril is like water. Stay hydrated.

[narrow lichen]

i do

brainblast just doesnt generate enough fast enough

[sonic coral]

That's what staff or force sword is for

[narrow lichen]

like i abuse the toughness regen with the peril gain and purge

[untold widget]

without EP it's like 2 or 3 full charges to max

[ornate hamlet]

I save my peril for when I spam my staff, then when I've closed the distance I whip out my force sword and kill off the rest with the bonus damage

Or just gain and quell for getting my toughness back

[untold widget]

I'm just generally always at high peril

[narrow lichen]

yeah

but i cant keep consistently high peril with bb

i can with the other 2

[sonic coral]

I mean, it's whatever, down to playstyle and all but it's not difficult to take advantage of high peril with BB

[untold widget]

well you have a staff

or should at least

[sonic coral]

Or a force sword, illisi in particular you can just jerk it off real quick and max peril

[narrow lichen]

tried the staff dont like it

[sonic coral]

Or hotswap deimos

[untold widget]

if you're using guns, then you should be running assail so you don't use up all the ammo

[coral cave]

any psyker drip recommendations?

[untold widget]

I run brain burst on my purgatus loadout

[narrow lichen]

i tried out revolver with smite and its pretty fun

[sonic coral]

If you run two non-warp weapons then yea, assail or smite are better peril levers than BB

[ornate hamlet]

If I was home I would show you a few I have but

[sonic coral]

But, that's a pretty specific context to talk about BB in

[surreal eagle]

Hot take

[sonic coral]

It's not untrue. On a scrier laspistol build assail definitely helps salve ammo woes

[ornate hamlet]

I've been using dueling sword revolver assail

And I only use the latter as a last resort

[untold widget]

gunner nests mostly

fuckers

[hot zephyr]

Depends on your keystone. Battery Gunner build doesn't typically use ult to keep stacks up but an SG/DD build typically wants access to cooldown reduction so you run smite

Also makes a huge difference what gun you are running too. Columnus chews a lot more ammo than a headhunter or a kantrel

[untold widget]

true, I tend to like Assail just because when I pick up ammo as a gunker, pubbies get butt hurt

[sonic coral]

Good

[untold widget]

and pubbies are also generally useless at taking advantage of smite

[sonic coral]

If they can be hurt they should be

[untold widget]

not always

but 99% of the time they just ignore whatever's getting controlled

[hot zephyr]

Pubbies need that ammo cus they usually can't aim.

They like to spray and pray hard to the emprah

[sonic coral]

Pubbies play so they can larp as rugs as soon as a horde appears

[quasi junco]

I ignore walkers, anything scary I will focus down

[orchid shadow]

Ooof, some people just shouldn't be picking up medipacks. They don't remember they have them, don't read chat for the healing calls, and don't hear the VO for healing. It's like they're playing with no HUD and no sound.

[night crater]

I need help with staff builds

[sonic coral]

Some people need to play with music blasting, sound off, typing messages to their two twitch followers in between juggling their 4 kids and ordering pizza

[dapper garden]

is smite redudant when using tauma staff?

[sonic coral]

No, they specialize in different things

Smite for cc and horde control, surge for single target damage

Both will pump peril very fast

[dapper garden]

i think u confused the staff

[sonic coral]

Oh trauma

[dapper garden]

i mean the aoe one

[sonic coral]

I probably wouldn't pair them personally

[untold widget]

Also, if you're running blazing trauma staff, Smite can proc True Aim and give you guaranteed soulfire when you swap to trauma

[sonic coral]

Smite procs true aim? Hmm

[untold widget]

yeah

[sonic coral]

Neat

[untold widget]

and doesn't use it up either

[sonic coral]

In that case maybe I would pair them lol

[untold widget]

pretty fun build, kinda busy if you're trying to min max it

I like a MK IV dueling sword or a uncanny deimos to deal with the ogryns after knocking them down

suffers at extreme ranges so gunners behind cover can be annoying

[sonic coral]

Passive quell on Saber might be a nice qol thing

With both trauma and smite

[untold widget]

quelling is the damage killer, cause of warp something or other that gives up to 20% extra damage at high peril, so ymmv

[sonic coral]

I'll have to experiment later, partly depends on how bottom tree goes

[dapper garden]

humm gonna check

[night crater]

Are there Videos of somebody actually making that build work?

[untold widget]

Idk, I just made it and used it for a while

but I also developed a distaste for smite because watching everyone waltz away from the group of 3 bulwarks, 6 crushers, and 7 ragers I have sitting in place dancing the electric slide to melee 6 pox walkers makes me want to delete my character

[proven stirrup]

I am 1000% fed up with how long this lose screen takes to let me out

[untold widget]

use that time to talk shit

[proven stirrup]

It legit takes as much time if not less to alt-F4 and reload the game

[slow raven]

it's weird too how sometimes randomly itll be fast

and you can press continue right away

but usuallyi t makes you wait like a minute to press continue

for no reason

[proven stirrup]

Yeah, it happens on win sometimes too but it's always when I lose

I have no intention of being a shitheel given I'm likely just as garbage at the game and made enough mistakes to get us wiped but I'll be damned if being forced to ruminate over it for an extra 20 seconds doesn't just make me quit playing

[untold widget]

I have a conspiracy theory that it happens only when people leave and get replaced

but I'm probably just getting confirmation bias

[white hemlock]

Yea, that's what I'm trying to figure out which 2 to chance and to what

[untold widget]

sustained fire to warp flurry and damage to elites to 25% flak/maniac

ez

[white hemlock]

yea that sounds reasonable

[untold widget]

rending shockwave gets warp flurry for faster max brittleness, and damage to flak/maniac and carapace are great for what the staff does best. Knocking ogryns down

you can swap flak for maniac depending on your preference afterwards as well

[narrow lichen]

flak causes more issues

maniac is pretty easy to deal with

[untold widget]

flak's probably better for a rending staff anyways

maniac's don't really get "armor" to make brittle lol

[severe folio]

then if you already have rending

while would you add flak

[spice veldt]

for the rare headhunter users

[tawdry pasture]

point me at those heretics

[severe folio]

you have 3 options of flak maniac carapace

check the damage value and see which one you think need more extra pump

if flak have a number relatively similar to unarmored, then maybe carapace could be more profitable

[tawdry pasture]

Say “shutup Melk” like shutup Meg

[analog agate]

Do people run true aim with blazing trauma? I just do the ol faithful warp siphon

[severe folio]

pygex tried a true aim blazing trauma

[spice veldt]

i do cuz i'm too lazy to change my build and I don't like to path to the left side

[severe folio]

with rending shockwave substitute to warp nexus

but he said it is too bothersome

think about you are going to do extra step to get a guranteed crit proc

[analog agate]

I never count you, no offense haha. You do mostly melee/shards

[severe folio]

smite, trauma, smite, quel, trauma, smite, trauma, quell, smite, trauma

[quasi junco]

so I can confirm if you aggro a DH and go inside a checkpoint and hit the button it will instantly die

[spice veldt]

I dislike the probablistic aspect of blazing spirit, even if you can get 42.5% crit chance nowadays, so true aim is nice for letting me farm with melee

[spice veldt]

🥺

[analog agate]

🤷‍♂️…

[severe folio]

pygex also said its same damage as a warp nexus blazing trauma

so, both way are the same, just one will take more work

[tawdry pasture]

warp is stored in the balls

[severe folio]

in your mom balls

[tawdry pasture]

Swift balls

[severe folio]

in this case we should not add extra damage on infested

[bright mica]

I tried blazing but honestly I prefer to just run Creeping Flames. Rending Flurry is good enough clear in between sections and takes care of elites faster

[severe folio]

does that mean when you run blazing you didnt run creeping flame

[bright mica]

I did and it just felt overkill

[white hemlock]

For sure lol. Flak seems to be a solid choice unless there's a break point with maniac

[bright mica]

i

I will say blazing has better boss dps

still kinda ass

but better

[static needle]

is one with the warp an S tier talent

[severe folio]

you get 3 choices of flak maniac carapace

[severe folio]

what does it do

[bright mica]

is that the damage increase one

[static needle]

wait no wrong name lol

the one that increases ur toughness dmg reduction with peril

[maiden cedar]

Interesting they despawn instead of just teleporting to you on the other side

[spice veldt]

one with the warp yeah

[severe folio]

yes its good

[spice veldt]

warp rider is the damage increase one

[bright mica]

it's pretty good but can be passed on in some builds like purgatus

[maiden cedar]

I guess it's because they're unloading the entire previous area

[severe folio]

no purgatus use it well too

[static needle]

would it be good for a gunpsyker using scriers?

[severe folio]

yes its good with scrier

[bright mica]

ye that's assuming you're not running shriek on purgatus which I almost always do although shield purgatus fucks too

you want it with scrier

[quasi junco]

why is our Kinetic Presense aura a bad version of Fire Team for vet?

[bright mica]

you want it with like almost every single build

[quasi junco]

OR am I missingsomething?

[bright mica]

5% crit chance is arguably better than 5% damage

on crit effects exist and crit chains exist

[quasi junco]

That is Precience Aura

[bright mica]

is kinetic presence the elite damage one

[quasi junco]

yea

[bright mica]

yeah it's kinda mid but hey it stacks

[quasi junco]

I take it on my trauma/blaze build cuz I run BB so it makes sense

[bright mica]

I take it only on my voidstrike no ability build

wait no I run crit aura

[severe folio]

no its still good with shriek purgatus

[bright mica]

it's good I was just thinking of the only situation I'd not run it

[severe folio]

the kinetic presence is not only mid its also low mid

seer presence is more profitable

[bright mica]

although I don't run it on voidstrike warp charge stacking build but then again you kill everything able to damage your toughness before they can fire with that overtuned staff

man i want a fucking burger

I have online uni tmmrw can't wait to just play voidstrike maelstroms while listening to the lectures

[severe folio]

basic psyker

I cast Voidstrike

[untold widget]

"The boss seems unphased." - DM

[sweet veldt]

do you take vent damage in this tide game?

[strong gulch]

No. Vent / quell is free.

[long wharf]

you pay for it in time

[strong gulch]

oh true

[crude cape]

im going back and forth on trauma builds, these two.
1)

[white hemlock]

I warpcharge stack with my VS

[long wharf]

with trauma, I'd go Warp Siphon

[crude cape]

it does feel good

but BB feels bad

[long wharf]

then don't use BB

[digital narwhal]

I made a Tier List.

[sweet veldt]

oh thats busted

[digital narwhal]

Not really

[sweet veldt]

is it slower?

[digital narwhal]

Faster

[strong gulch]

You do A LOT more quelling in this game.

[sweet veldt]

does it charge quicker?

[strong gulch]

than vt2

[sweet veldt]

or do you just use it more

[digital narwhal]

About the same, but there's Talents to reduce Peril Generation

[sweet veldt]

battle wizard is pretty ranged spammy

[strong gulch]

You don't have the same temp hp system either. There is toughness and hp.

This game is also faster paced than VT2

[crude cape]

i have a version with assail and warpsiphon, but it just doesnt feel as good as running assaul with EP.
also more spread on points, and what ends up happening is i drop like a TON of toughness stats. I can get up to 170-190 toughness depending on a couple talent choices with warp siphon + bb. but only like 145ish with assail

i guess thats just the cost

having BB feels kinda bad bc i only use it here or there

[digital narwhal]

Darktide has a higher density of Elite/Specialist equivalent enemies, as well as a faster paced combat flow than VT2, so faster Quelling is essential.

[crude cape]

at least its ok boss dmg compared to most other things on psyker rn lol

[digital narwhal]

Psyker is balanced by being made of paper.

Great Toughness economy, but... once it goes, you'll be smacked silly.

[maiden cedar]

From my very brief time playing VT2, the combat felt waaaay faster

Mightve just been animation speed tho

[sweet veldt]

vt2 does feel more fluid

dt is more jittery panic

imo

[maiden cedar]

Fluid or less impactful, take your pick

[high yarrow]

VT2 is more fluid but with DT its more panicky and more ranged

[maiden cedar]

DT I feel has more weighty melee

[sweet veldt]

more like "AHHH KILL THE FLAMER"

warpfire throwers in vt2 are much less of a threat

[high yarrow]

yea, it feels pretty weighty

[crude cape]

ya darktides combat feels more weights and fluid imo

by a lot

dodging, sliding, movement and animation sets in general

[maiden cedar]

With VT2 I kinda felt like the enemies were actually just liquid, they had no mass

[static needle]

is this even worth buying when the glorious mk iv exists? It does have some sexy stats and i can rearrange the perks to something very nice

[strong gulch]

More panic is true. When I was playing VT2, I could play it while enjoying an alcoholic beverage, but it is all panic in DT. 😂

[high yarrow]

the worst is when a crowd of ragers is fully sprinting at you as a Psyker, that scares me

[orchid shadow]

So, assuming that this doesn't become another brick in the Great Wall of Hadron, what should I be looking for on this? Frenzy/Dumdum and the usual Flak/Maniac?

[maiden cedar]

Iunno, DT ist thaaat panicky to me. It guess it depends on how easily you can pick out audio ques or spot sniper beams

[strong gulch]

If you don't have one and want a good roll to try, or if you want to hope for suture damage changes, then yes.

Otherwise no.

[maiden cedar]

I think I just have sensitive as fuck hearing so I'm never caught off guard by people coming up behind me

[static needle]

is it good compared to mk iv atm?

like, does it do anything better at all?

[elder python]

what melee weapon for void staff build ?

[sinful peak]

illisi

[orchid shadow]

Aaaand Hadron ruins it.

[strong gulch]

It's damage is lower. Damage is generally what is considered "good". The heavies are easier to get head shots on most things. Iirc, the light attack pattern is the same.

I can't remember everything that defenses, do , but there is some overlap with mobility.

TLDR It you don't mind sacrificing damage and like the moveset of the MK 5, then it's worth it.

[bright mica]

Depends how confident you feel. I run CKnife because the only thing I need my melee for is mobility and mutants.

[quasi junco]

How much faster is the knife?

[bright mica]

Chaining knife heavies makes you run quite a bit faster. Best in class dodges and apparently a hidden stamina regen buff.

[bright mica]

If you value deflector for whatever reason Deimos can be good. Can hold back hordes a bit better too.

[quasi junco]

That explains why I saw a knife zealot (spectating cuz I died) spam heavies when not in combat lol

[bright mica]

Yes you kinda wanna do that with knife. It goes insane on Zealot as they have a 10% run speed buff ability

which feels a lot faster than 10% lmao

but yeah cknife heavy spam makes you fast enough to outrun hordes

With many Psyker builds you literally never need to use your melee so cknife can be a good option as more of a tool rather than a weapon.

Outside of builds that severely lack horde-clear and ignoring gunsyker I'd say the 3 main options are Deimos, Dsword4 and Cknife

If I need deflector I run Deimos, if I want better elite killing I run Ds4, if I'm good and could use some mobility cknife

[tacit flume]

ive been using a devils claw

[bright mica]

dclaw is alright although dsword4 is about as defensive with better single target

[untold vault]

Anyone got a good up to date voidstrike build?
Im still using crit passives -> Surge blessing for voidstrike

[bright mica]

I love dclaw zealot tho

[tacit flume]

never tried it on my zealot. been running crusher on him lately

which sword are you referring to with dsword4?

[bright mica]

there's a good one in pins. it grabs an unupgraded shield and goes into warp siphon, never casting shield unless necessary using warp siphons damage bonus to elevate void

[bright mica]

dueling sword 4

[tacit flume]

How is that for horde clear? Devils claw is great for when too much gets in my business

[bright mica]

get one with shred on your zealot, it's kinda nuts. unconventional but my fav Zealot build is dclaw4/boltgun with throwing knife, toughness aura, double dash and fury

[bright mica]

ìts good enough, ideally you wanna use voidstrike for hclear and let your team handle any survivors that dare come close

[untold vault]

Dclaw4/boltgun + flame nade + whatever aura fancies you + relic ult

Crit as much as you can

Spam the relic ult

Love it

[tacit flume]

i dont dare try to rely on my team to watch my back

[bright mica]

I run knives just cus boltgun is mainly reserved for anti armor and bursting patrols

[tacit flume]

I cant even rely on them to kill stuff stinned by smite

[bright mica]

I'm very good with knives

also double dash fucks because you can have 20% attack speed buff with full uptime

[untold vault]

You can cheese any maelstrom modifier except for scab faction no ammo

That one has too much carapace for the cdr crit build

[bright mica]

yup

I only rlly run relic on my Crusher

Crusher is a weapon you wanna play close to your team so dashing around doesn't help much

also throwing a fire nade then using relic to keep a group of elites in it is a great strat

[untold vault]

Btw how is purge vs carapace?

I havent touched purge since patch 13

[bright mica]

not great, I like running uncanny dsword4 with purgatus to deal with elites better

you can do ok cara dps with fire dots if you can uncanny stacks while they're on fire

but it's kinda finicky

dsword4 meanwhile just chews thru crusher after crusher

[untold vault]

Ah, I'll stick with void then

have a meme true aim soulblaze build

[bright mica]

purgatus is very good and outside of gaze builds probably the most reliable boss DPS

but yeah I get wym

the most hilarious boss melts I've seen was me running purgatus with a flamer zealot

fuckers would get deleted from DOT

[untold vault]

I just push em off the map with zealot relic

[bright mica]

they nerfed that sadge

[untold vault]

Wdym? They patched it back

You push it again every pulse

[bright mica]

damn fr?

[untold vault]

Yeah

[bright mica]

shame there's no cliffs in many spots but keeping those fuckers in your flame nades is great dps too

[untold vault]

On vet you can delete boss with highlight + kraks + plasma

[bright mica]

Honestly bosses aren't that big of an issue so I'd rather just run shout

2/3 of the bosses you can get are basically no threat at all

slug is the only one that's annoying

I'd rather fight a plage ogryn than 5 crushers

[static needle]

Is mk 5 duelling sword any good compared to 4?

[bright mica]

ngl it's been quite literally a year since I've used any other dsword

[opal pebble]

is warp resist important on trauma staf?

[wide tiger]

Unfortunately 4 is the only worthwhile dueling saber

[ionic needle]

Turns out that purgatus + smite is quite good for scab only maelstrom

[static needle]

This thing is a beauty tho

[wide tiger]

ehhh

[upbeat parcel]

that's good shame it's a V though

[cloud sequoia]

Anyone know a good gunsyker build?

[fossil snow]

guys

how long has precharging an empowed bb been peril free?

[untold vault]

What's the build?

It takes forever for me to kill anyone with purge

[tawdry pasture]

wow i love ogryns that pull the entire horde

[fossil snow]

me too

fighting is fun

[tawdry pasture]

no it isnt

[fossil snow]

what game are you playing that has ogryn in it?

[ionic needle]

I smite until I reach >90 peril, then I shriek to get soulblaze rolling and pull out the staff and start flaming. If they get too close I quell and start smiting again. As soon as one dies they start popping all over because of Perilous Combustion.

Very fun watching large packs of ragers first stand around looking stupid in the lightning and then just melt

[wide tiger]

no perfect timing?

[ionic needle]

I didn't really know what to drop to get it so I just went without it

[sick light]

Oh thats new to me. Whats the normal max stack, actually?

[ionic needle]

Good tip! Won't be able to always though because huge packs of elites haha

[static needle]

Is perilous combustion a must when doing a gunpsyker with scrier's? would u rather run that and have 120 toughness or not run it and have 140? thats my situation rn lol

[wide tiger]

honestly perilous combustion prolly overkill with purg

[wide tiger]

nope just extra damage

15% warp damage prob net more

[static needle]

so in this scenario what would u run?

[ionic needle]

It's very good for gun psyker yes

[static needle]

so you would sacrifice 20 toughness for it? 120 toughness vs 140?

[ionic needle]

Yes

[static needle]

hmm

ok

[untold vault]

Thanks

[wide tiger]

i would and do

[static needle]

im doing disrupt destiny btw

[ionic needle]

It's a fun build, running scriers too I guess?

[static needle]

do you want more than 120 toughness personally, tho?

[wide tiger]

feels really good in melee

[static needle]

yes

[wide tiger]

i have like 95 tough, but i removed 15% tough ffor 30% more ordo

[ionic needle]

Wat

Ordo as in dockets??

[wide tiger]

yes

$$$

[static needle]

this is what im running. 2 HP curios with toughness and HP perks on each. Would u change anything?

this is toughness and HP stats

[west stream]

thats anice gun

[static needle]

yup hehe

anyway, anyone got feedback?

[west stream]

I would run 3 wounds

tbh

[static needle]

ew

no need

[ionic needle]

I like running 2x toughness, 1x hp and put +toughness x3, gunner res x2, sniper res x1 and toughness regen x2, stamina regen x1

[static needle]

just dont die lul

[west stream]

2 runs quickly into insteadeath with grimoires or boss grab

[static needle]

I also run +3 stamina curio since i need it for rushing with duelling sword

idk if i need it tho...

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe they buffed smite since I last tried it, but doesn't the staff deal radically more damage?

[ionic needle]

It does yeah, but with smite I can control the huge packs of maulers, crushers and ragers so my team can get started on them

Then I just flame the rest of it

[wide tiger]

doesnt it suck when you smite that big group

and then your team walks on

[ionic needle]

Yeah that would suck, doesn't happen a lot in auric though

[echo frigate]

Really like heresy and above

Sometimes malice

[ornate hamlet]

Sometimes I wish they never put smite in the game

So people use something that deals damage

[wide tiger]

happened to me in my auric just now lol

[static needle]

is stamina curio ever worth running? for example, is it worth it with a scrier's gunpsyker build using duelling sword?

[ionic needle]

I'm pretty sure I dealt some damage here

[ionic needle]

I'd probably go for toughness or hp over it. Just manage your stamina and positioning properly and you'll reduce the risk of getting caught out without it.

[wide tiger]

Im with you

[ornate hamlet]

Stamina is basically a nonissue with kinetic deflection and the regen delay psyker has

[echo frigate]

Running Stam on psyker is so much fun

[ornate hamlet]

Like, I'm not gonna say every psyker using smite is going to be the "I'm helping" guy that doesn't realize they could've just killed the crowd they spent the last 2 years stunning for the 67th time in a match

But the amount of times I've seen psykers smiting poxwalkers in damnation and auric is straight up depressing

And then they'd see their super Palpatine lightning killed maybe a single one and that every enemy they shocked is standing back up and charge another shock

Some of them seem to legitimately live in a world where people are okay with using plastic bags to hold liquid instead of cups or bottles

I'm mostly glad when I'm eating shit from the most elite crowd possible and half of them just stop trying to murder me tho

But usually the solution is to click the head

[fossil snow]

counterpoint, exploding heretics is fun

hitting heretics isnt nearly as funny

[strong gulch]

The visceral response I had to this. 😰 😂

[fossil snow]

I think efficiancy over satisfaction people enjoy this game in a very different way that I do sometimes

[strong gulch]

Good point.

[wide tiger]

The idea is to combo it and lock the horde down while it dies to soulfire

but yes, i agree, id rather just have someone blasting everything down with a voidstrike

[fossil snow]

I never quite got the soulfire instead of damage vent thing with smite

[next heart]

is warp battery still bugged to require heresy

[fossil snow]

I get fire + stun + dot sure

[wide tiger]

you can basically spam vent if you do it right

[ornate hamlet]

The fire thingy just deals more damage

[wide tiger]

keep pulsing soulfire

[tawdry pasture]

Terrible purgers of heretics

[fossil snow]

but I dont ever see many people using smite to cook their peril and just hammering them with a 90 charge vent

I guess they accomplish the same thing more or less

[ornate hamlet]

The raw damage one is instant, sure, but also I don't think the 200 damage that is advertised is even capable of killing a groaner in a single hit

[fossil snow]

and fire probably goes wider with wildfire

[ornate hamlet]

That too, it applies a fair amount of stacks (enough to kill a poxwalker, if I'm not wrong) and can still spread

[fossil snow]

its def a ''I need empowered smites saucier damage first'' kind of set up

actually

does anyone else use slam vent for anything neat?, mine is the smite thing, and thats just a worse flames.

[ornate hamlet]

Is slam vent the damage one?

Ideally both of them soften enemies up to make chewing through the horde easier

Since it does have the benefit of being an ability with pretty much infinite cleave within its area

And that pierces walls, because why not

[wide tiger]

Also if you're using warp charges and you're gaining warp charges via soulfire

theres the engine

6 warp charges = faster cd = more charges faster = faster cd etc etc

F F F F F F F

[fossil snow]

there has to be some cool thing damage vent can do though right?

[wide tiger]

Idk its too low damage for me to consider using

[fossil snow]

almost everything on psyker has a weird cool use

[wide tiger]

probably good for pushing dogs off people through walls

[fresh reef]

Shriek already does that at base, so no

Would be nice if it had a higher impact modifier

Like instead of just mildly staggering crushers, it'd knock them over as if they got hit by a Trauma blast

[wide tiger]

Didn't use to. You used to have the soulblaze one to do it

that little extra soulblaze proc pumped the stagger up just enough to push the hound off

thats old though

[fossil snow]

hum, you know what would make it stand on its own?

make that mfer 360

let me go full akira

[fresh reef]

??
No?

[ionic needle]

That's not correct

[fresh reef]

The impact scaling was only ever affected by peril

[ionic needle]

I never used to run the soulblaze talent, always pushed through walls

[wide tiger]

To push

a hound

off someone

through a wall

you needed soulblaze on your push

100%

or you needed slaughterer stacks, or something extra, it wasnt base

[fossil snow]

idk man I rarely soulblazed it too and I at least remember pushing dogs

my memory is full of holes though

[spice veldt]

nope

worked by default

[wide tiger]

No it didnt

[spice veldt]

it absolutely did

[wide tiger]

I remember exclusively testing with my buddy

didnt

[spice veldt]

did

[wide tiger]

Nope.

[spice veldt]

and I remember doing it as somebody who never ever used ascendant blaze in pubs

[fossil snow]

why wouldnt it?

its a stagger hit, stagger hits knock dogs, just like in general

[wide tiger]

I never used ascendant blaze either, but i did when i had to test this shit out

you need to hit a certain stagger threshold to knock a dog off, its not just any stagger

[fossil snow]

🤷 your psyker might have been build different

like literally

I love this game, but if you told me the quell while moving normally talent caused a dude to die sometime somewhere in the level id belive you

[wide tiger]

i tested this shit

[fossil snow]

well I mean like

we're in a post class rework world

you cant test the old one

[plain rune]

wrong, leveled up psyker today, even default ult pushes through walls

[spice veldt]

and I'm insanely skeptical of it because i've done in pubs without taking ascendant blaze

[wide tiger]

this was a long time ago

but shit man

illd ie on this hill

[plain rune]

just check

smh

also range on it is insane

[wide tiger]

you cant check

[plain rune]

dont remember it being that huge on release

[wide tiger]

read the gd conversation

[plain rune]

you absolutely can check

but

[fossil snow]

we're talking about oldker's f

[plain rune]

just use old darktide version

[wide tiger]

you know what

it doesnt even matter

dont believe me

idgaf

[spice veldt]

maybe it didn't work in december or something

[fossil snow]

remember that bb perk that debuffed things?

what was that called?

[ionic needle]

I never ran soulblaze on PW, and I always pushed dogs off of people through walls and whatnot, you're just wrong here

[strong gulch]

Pre patch 13 you needed higher peril to really push things with your ult. You did not need ascendant blaze. The push weaker on low peril.

[spice veldt]

but it certainly worked from some time that I began playing around in january

[fossil snow]

if it was different based on different perils, that might explain how diff people have different memories

[wide tiger]

Im not, but say everything you want lol

[fossil snow]

bearnstien biomancer instead of bearnstain psykinetic

[wide tiger]

i spent an evening testing thiswith my buddy last year

got no proof so

no point

[tired knoll]

why hadron giving me 3 surges in a row on gold. gimme warp nexus

[terse flare]

why did they buff psykers just to nerf us back into the ground. I go away on a ship for 9 days come back to a new map (cool) but nerfed into the ground. I can't hold my own anymore. I know the need to tweak but make my dps the same as it was before the class update crap. why do I play still is the question

[fading iris]

Because is the will of the Omnissiah, are you questioning the Omnissiah?!

[sweet veldt]

This you?

[fading iris]

[strong gulch]

Old Psykinetic's Wrath. Use no. 2. When Ryken showcases tests tests things, he reduces compounding factors as much as possible.
https://youtu.be/vsc2ogzv5EQ?si=q2ShQO6cRRaCmMFr

Didn't need the higher peril.

[wide tiger]

why does smite have a safety

[strong gulch]

Not sure.

[brave fiber]

i think with the way it casts it would be very easy to blow yourself up otherwise compared to other blitzes

just a theory

[strong gulch]

Well, if i think about it, it works somewhat like purg. You can start the cast on purg before 100 peril (97%?) and keep the cast going even at 100% peril and not explode.

Maybe it's similar? Though, you stop at 100% on smite. You can cast smite at 100 and explode tho.

[wide tiger]

Well no, what i mean is

if you go to smite to 100%

[dapper garden]

can someone link me a trauma staff build?

[wide tiger]

it vents you 15%

for free

its like a safety

I tried to kill myself with it, but i guess if you charge it to 100% and then fire maybe i would still blow up

[restive stone]

how does terrifying barrage work on the void staff

[strong gulch]

You can find one in the Antheneum in the pins. Example builds part 2.

There is also @plucky flax 's build in this video. Build is in the beginning. https://youtu.be/8sj-V9yVPFs?si=dIiX6s2J1Ns9_5JQ

Both are takes on fire trauma.

[restive stone]

is it close to you or where the ball lands or kills?

[strong gulch]

Close to you.

Staves have a lot of built in suppression though, so it's functionally useless in nearly all cases.

Terrifying Barrage isn't worth it compared to the already high suppression and other options available.

BUT if you personally like it, go for it.

[restive stone]

nah thats ass then

imo

[strong gulch]

yup

The only time I've felt a real difference is if the staff struggles with CC at melee range, but at that point I just use my melee.

[fossil snow]

anyone have any neat tricks they like to do with staff melee?

im not a poke fan myself, but the baseball bat swing to the head never fails to make me chuckle

[strong gulch]

Someone mentioned only using staff melee when helping a lower level friend in easier difficulties; otherwise they would demolish everything.

I don't even remember staff melee exists tbh.

[urban sandal]

took me forever to realise you could charge it too

[strong gulch]

If the staff poke came out really fast and had the same stagger as dueling sword special or knife push attack, I'd use it.

[untold widget]

staff bonk is relegated to the same as club slap on ogryn

for the memes

[weary rain]

would this be good if i put deflector and slaughterer?

[atomic zephyr]

i'm a fan of no deflector, so id pick slaughter

not saying deflector is bad

i'd definetly keep the blood thirsty though, thats just me

all 4 of those blessings are good imo

[glossy ember]

if it works like hellbore bayonet, limbsplitter and brutal momentum should apply to it

60% more power on bonk pog

[upbeat parcel]

I wish I could still enjoy force swords

dueling sword completely converted me

[bold maple]

dueling sword is more stylish, simple as

[coarse bane]

Ok, so what's the fucking deal with the pennace to keep max warp charges for 300 seconds in a mission? I've gone almost an entire map with max stacks and nothing.

[bold maple]

dont care about effectiveness

[upbeat parcel]

only counts if you have 6

even if ur max is 4

[coarse bane]

that is fucking dumb

[grand abyss]

remember that it's fatshark that's in charge of coding penances

[void fable]

Wondering if I preferring Venting Shriek, which helps me specifically, over the bubble shield, which helps the whole team, says something about me as a person

[half iron]

my scrier’s gaze shows off my tertium rizz

[outer bramble]

finally got level 30 on my psyker now i can actually do fun builds and get good weapons

[grand scroll]

Made a set of Psyker with no Keystone.

And focusing all the talents on being a lil more tanky.

[grand scroll]

Technically, Venting Shriek can support offensively by staggering enemies. Scrier's Gaze is the one that helps you specifically.

Also tried to make an armoured Psyker for the looks

[tawdry void]

i got the smae look but w/ the black trancendant pants

[ornate hamlet]

I'd keep shred, change bloodthirsty to uncanny strike and groaners to carapace

[cobalt wraith]

is toughness regeneration on curios even worth getting?

[ornate hamlet]

My unsolicited opinion is that people take the idea of "team support" as something needlessly binary and overdefined

Something that gives bonuses to you alone, such as shriek, can be classified as "not support" on the loosest terms, while something that gives bonuses to your team, like shield, can be classified as "support" also on the loosest terms

[untold widget]

You can get insane toughness regen when you gain warp charges with Warp Siphon

[hasty pier]

Killing things is a form of team support

I should make the alignment chart for darktide team support meme

"Left click is a form of team support"

[ornate hamlet]

Because people don't stop being supportive just because they aren't bringing some active ability that gives people buffs or whatever people decided is the thing the other person should play

There are people who start bitching at you if you don't bring survivalist when playing vet and saying you're jeopardizing the team

[hasty pier]

Unironically one of the most supportive things you can do is just stick together and whack enemies who are about to whack your friends

And that doesn't require a special build

[ornate hamlet]

Then you hog all the specialist kills because the extra points you'd maybe have put reaching survivalist in your build helped you get what you needed to perform better as a player, go down less, deal more damage and help people by staying alive long enough to help them

[half iron]

the only support i give is keeping morale up with my tertium rizz for any trust 30 gyatts

[ornate hamlet]

And not taking the "team" option made you more effective at helping the team because you weren't crippling yourself for some made-up bullshit definition of support

Shriek is undeniably my favorite psyker ability and I am very inclined to take it over shield

[hasty pier]

I love shriek

[ornate hamlet]

And having shriek available allows me to undo my fuck-ups that lead to blowing up, staggering enemies and maybe spreading hellfire if I so wish

I currently run shriek with nothing else

No peril, no fire, no damage, just the standard shriek

And that thing fucks

There's also a toxic side of support, like people who firmly insist on going to the other extreme

And yes, I will whine about smite again

People who smite poxwalkers are "supporting"

But I'd rather they just charge their illisi special and wipe 5 times the poxwalkers in 1/5 of the time

[cosmic sigil]

Do you guys have a barebone EP assail build with every must have so that I can use the leftover points as I want? I need to rethink my current psyker build.

[rustic tiger]

Hey, do you guys think that psyker is still OP?

[ornate hamlet]

With the assail nerf, nah

[cosmic sigil]

Oo

[rustic tiger]

Rad, thanks

[cobalt wraith]

😦

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/markiplier-yoinky-sploinky-yoinky-sploinky-dancing-gif-24363852

[fathom adder]

Finally the Illisi that will spread Blazing Spirit (because nothing it swings at dies)

[severe folio]

has anyone heard the voice of the servitor behind melk

i just bought a staff from him and it said completed like the peddler

and melk scold him lol

[coarse bane]

Getting real sick of Carnival.

12 quickplays in a row now.

[magic burrow]

That player who would claim you're not supporting the team when you use venting shriek over the shield will probably hold his words once you yell a dog off him through a wall

[potent echo]

Nah the same person will complain that you took shield when the team wipes to ragers

[ornate hamlet]

"Why didn't you kill the 9 gunners, I was sitting in my shield smiting the 5 poxwalkers to keep you safe"

Funny we mock poxwalkers, considering dying to a groaner would actually be the humiliating thing

I think it's the way the word rolls on the tongue

[coarse bane]

15 Carnival now

[frail sand]

i like carnival, but not that much

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I feel yeah.

[bitter escarp]

also lower plasteel than average because map's so open

[strong gulch]

There used to be an issue with the new maps not popping up at all for people, but dang does it feel bad to get the same map EVERY time.

[frail sand]

i've basically memorized the mat spawn locations so it's about average so as long as i am collecting mats

[bitter escarp]

haven't gone quite that far, usually trying to keep people alive on that map as ogryn or psyker

I don't know what it is, must be the drugs in the air or something

[frail sand]

plasteel >>> teammates

[bitter escarp]

but pubs seem to struggle a lot more with carnival, second only maybe to hab dreyko

[untold widget]

yeah I've been running knife psyker just so I can run around and grab mats at top speed

[frail sand]

pubs will struggle at first event or final arena fight unless u tell them where to hold

[bitter escarp]

I hate playing knife because I don't want to fund my physiotherapist's new car

[scarlet moat]

Is the 300 second max peril bugged or no?

[untold widget]

even holding anywhere in the first event makes a huge difference

[scarlet moat]

The mission I mean

[upbeat parcel]

u need 6 warp charges even if ur max is 4

[untold widget]

it's max warp charges and you need to hold 6 for 300 seconds

[frail sand]

pubs like to scatter around in each of the corner, 1 person for each corner

[scarlet moat]

Bruh

[untold widget]

yeah

[scarlet moat]

I see

[bitter escarp]

that event is a basic positioning check

[untold widget]

go with the warp siblign

[bitter escarp]

and pubs fail it al the time

[untold widget]

just do warp charges on coherency and stay with your team

its not terrible

[bitter escarp]

bubble psyker is great just to get people vaguely standing together

[untold widget]

unless they're bad

and don't use your ability at all

no shout/shield/scriers gaze

it drops the warp charges

[bitter escarp]

that's one of the more unwelcome changes

[untold widget]

for the penance it sucks

[bitter escarp]

rolling the least used level 30 into the ability

[untold widget]

but I like it for shout fire

shouting every 15 seconds and melting rooms at a time is pretty addicting

[bitter escarp]

things die quickly enough that I haven't found the CDR necessary

fair

[untold widget]

especially on the finale in Carnival

just holding the choke and evaporating everything as it stacks up on the melee

[bitter escarp]

carnival finale was such a pisstake the first day

people would try to hold in the middle

????

[untold widget]

yeah

or up top

where fucking everything shot you from everywhere

[bitter escarp]

up top was more doable but still not great

[vapid lichen]

i had teams try to hold on top but most ive seen gave up on that pretty quickly for the entrance

[bitter escarp]

had some dude suggest hiding in the container, which worked until bombers

up top works if you have bubble psykers but it's still not a good position

[untold widget]

holding up top lasts as long as the first pack of gunners that spread out on the other top bits and just rain hell on you from every direction

[coarse bane]

All those Carnival runs finally paid off.

[ornate hamlet]

why doesn't surge have surge

[rigid rune]

Don't think it would work well with targeting

[upbeat parcel]

if surge could surge the surge'd enemy

[unkempt hare]

Recently got a quad 80 trauma from peddler lmao

50% warp resist lol

[half iron]

carnival is the only map‼️💯🗣️🗣️

[unborn hare]

I'm trying dueling swords for the first time what do I do with this thing?

The Rending doesn't feel that great

[strong gulch]

Congrats!

If you got the plasteel change out the crit damage perk. You'll get more value out of something else. #psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

Uncanny is BIS. Change precog to shred / riposte / rampage. They each a bit different but all good.

Change weak spot to mutant.

Rampage makes hordes easier and can pump up damage but needs to cleave 3 which armor or less that 2 targets stops.

Shred is easy to stack up and maintain without compromising your position but takes more time to stack up than riposte.

Riposte gets you the same crit chance as shred right away with enough time up time (6 seconds) to apply to some ranged options, but it requires dodges which can be compromising.

[orchid shadow]

Should I roll off Crit or Specialist for Flak on this?

[strong gulch]

Sounds good to me. I don't know the deep nuances of the gun, but I do know that it wants flak and has nice crit strings.

So flak + crit chance seems right.

[orchid shadow]

Okay, thanks. Needed to be sure, I had to roll 50 of the things just to get DumDum 4

[strong gulch]

Congrats on finally get it. 🎉

[unkempt hare]

I don't get why more people don't have out with a bang it's stupid and a bit of fun

[hearty oak]

Is keeping the ranged crit perk any good on a gunker?

[severe folio]

gonna have to tell you this sword doesnt look that right, that penetration is kinda low

[plucky flax]

[severe folio]

damn thats nice

do you have tax for that

[potent echo]

im back to surge nexus void

transfer flurry feels too much like brainburst

[ornate hamlet]

Anyone try exorcist on trauma staff?

on a horde?

[severe folio]

dont try it

[distant roost]

The perk, no

I'd swap that for 25+ Flak

[hearty oak]

Already did

[distant roost]

and you could either

upgrade HC or Unyield

[hearty oak]

Cant. already has one upgrade on it

[distant roost]

ah yea lol

my b

used to people showing raw weapons

[hearty oak]

Although, i dont know how conventional a revolver is on a psyker when the column mk 5 just mows through crowds quite literally

[half iron]

it’s a much cooler staf than your amongus mk 5

[hearty oak]

No reload skills hurts. Id have to try it tomorrow

[ornate hamlet]

I suggest pairing revolver with assail

In rooms with shooters spread out, you'll thank me for the suggestion

[hearty oak]

What be the other option. Smite?

[ornate hamlet]

idk maybe

[hearty oak]

Im afraid of going from an instant kill pistol to a slow spread of crystals to horde clear is going to be too clunky

[ornate hamlet]

Well, horde clear is an extra

I just spam it on obnoxious gunner crowds

[arctic nacelle]

That's literally my sweaty smite build: cook to 90 with EP smite, slam vent with 6 stacks. Paired with true aim + surge void strike to alpha strike packs of shotgunners or help out with crushers.

[plucky flax]

I do. Surge smite gaming did nearly 900k damage in 35 mins.

[distant roost]

Horde Clear = Sword

wasting ammo on trash is a bad play

[silk hawk]

That shit speads like 1 stack at 4 enemies, deals a whole 10 dps...

Not even worth picking
..

[river dawn]

Does unyielding damage on the purgatus affect the direct hit only? or does it also affect the burn damage?

[near wyvern]

Depends on the build. You don't pick it up for damage, you pick it up to allow your fire to start from more than zero stacks which causes your soulblaze to ramp up a lot faster did example with a fire trauma build

[silk hawk]

I believe it has value, but is not hard to test.

[lost yew]

Hey yall, I got a question for anyone that can help me here. Im looking to build a good psyker class. Does anyone have recommendations for me?

[potent echo]

both

but only when active

usually i will burn the boss then swap to melee, so putting unyielding on your melee has more value

[potent echo]

find psyker atheneum

[rigid rune]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[lost yew]

Thank you i was about to ask about that 😅🤣

[bright mica]

enough of what's best; what is your most "reliable" pug build

[rigid rune]

Surge, illisi, smite, creeping flame, warpsiphon

[bright mica]

no joke was gonna say the same but with cknife

I don't even like surge but surge with cflames is easy carry

[strong gulch]

This one with whatever melee you feel confident with.

[river dawn]

What about swapping to blitz?

[winged flame]

i need a good build for my Psycer i am struggling with it ( i have Ogryn 30 , Zolat 30 , Psycr 24 and Vetren 20 )

[bright mica]

honestly funny you ask now, getting a half decent surge staff is easy since surge works without any specific blessings. I could toss you a surge staff build if you'd like

[strong gulch]

If you are used to aiming a lot and want a staff, voidstrike might be the staff for you.

There are psylot builds. Zealot but make it psyker.

[river dawn]

ouch ;-;

[winged flame]

that would be great

[strong gulch]

This is god roll for stats/

[river dawn]

oh?

damage is dump?

[strong gulch]

Yeah

damage is dump

[bright mica]

damage is pretty irrelevent for purgatus, burn is your DPS

[river dawn]

Oh :D Nice!

[bright mica]

thats a good roll :P

[river dawn]

first one i bought even xD

[bright mica]

lucky you!

[strong gulch]

You got cloud radius at 80 and burn at 76+. That's the base "requirements" for a really good purg

[river dawn]

thank god i posted xD

otherwise would sell

[strong gulch]

valid. Damage does seem like it's important.

[winged flame]

like i am just lost in the talent tree and i dont know how to go aggriesive with him i die easly whats the sloution here gimme keys to enjoy running him

[river dawn]

Alright now ill see what mommy does to this wish me luck

Not even disappoined xD expected less

wait there is no less to expect

nvm im disappointed lol

[glossy ember]

bubble

if i don't wanna lose i pick bubble

[plucky flax]

If I want to lose I pick bubble.

[glossy ember]

and that usually ups my win rates by ten thousand %

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

What do you die to? You can take all of the toughness regen nodes at the top. Having at least one 21 health curio lets you survive a burster or a sniper.

[river dawn]

Same i love going Bubble+ Brain burst+ surge staff

[half iron]

if i want to lose i don’t pick psyker

[strong gulch]

Bubble with the thoughness regen is nice

[glossy ember]

if I wanna guarentee a win I switch to ogryn

[plucky flax]

Really? I can't win with ogryns.

[glossy ember]

what

how

[plucky flax]

Cos I get paired up with other ogryns and they play like absolute

[glossy ember]

they're SO overtuned

[half iron]

ogryn strong👊

[strong gulch]

wow. She got you. 🥲

[glossy ember]

i just go when playing ogryn and before i know it it's a victory

[plucky flax]

This is a lost game. The vet joined late after a psyker rage quitted.

But the other 2 ogryns man..

[glossy ember]

f

[half iron]

had a vet pick plasma one time i played ogryn. got paired with another ogryn and we got disabled/downed/killed the least compared to them

[plucky flax]

Both ogryns died 5 times. My only death was at the end when I just couldn't clutch anymore.

[glossy ember]

that's nutty

[plucky flax]

Green muties and doggos too much.

[glossy ember]

oggy shouldn't go down that much they're so tough

[plucky flax]

Xxd

[bright mica]

lvl 24 and 30 build with Surge Staff.

Melee of choice, I like Combat Knife, but Illisi, Deimos, and Dueling Sword 4 are all good.

Mainly use Surge against Elites and Specialists, fully charging the right clicks. For perks I recommend Flak/Maniac and Carapace. Terrifying Barrage is very useful at letting you focus on High Value Targets (HVTs) without needing to spend time clearing trash around you. Stick close to your team.

You can use Smite when there's a big group of elites you can't handle or you need a small break until your Shriek ability is off cooldown.

Use your Shriek when at 85%+ Peril to get the most damage, try to aim it at a big horde. It's a massive instant fire damage-over-time from about 45 degrees in a cone starting from you.

During bossfights try to stay away and prioritize killing Elites/Specials/Hordes, only putting damage on the boss with your Shriek/Surge when everything else is dead (ignoring a few pox walkers being pests)

As for Curios I generally use double health and +3 stam, however you should use a +1 Wounds if you're new.

[plucky flax]

If I want a guaranteed win I play psyker.

Well not 100% win rate but it's very high. Same with zealot.

[half iron]

psyker strong!👊

[bright mica]

Actually probably wanna get True Aim in there

[plucky flax]

On vet and ogryn I suffer.

[half iron]

vets should suffer

[glossy ember]

psyker's been 50/50 for me these days

[plucky flax]

That's cos you play a really bad build.

But you have fun so..

[glossy ember]

true!

but it's never my fault because i'm just that good

[winged flame]

thank you so much ill run them both

[bright mica]

Yeah this works. 4% isn't rlly necessary since you mainly kill elites/specialists so getting Warp Charges should be easy

Can even drop Empyrean tbh

[plucky flax]

Damn I got roasted.

[glossy ember]

i've been told my ogryn build is also really bad but I win a million times more there

so ogryn op confirmed

[bright mica]

show me I love Ogryn

[spice veldt]

bad music, worse person

[glossy ember]

behold

[plucky flax]

Pick the bull rush with bleed. Pick the bleed talents. Pick the tanky keystone.

It's op.

Until you get dumb and dumber teammates.

[bright mica]

Nothing inherently bad other than you missing the Taunt 50% radius modifier which you really should use as it elevates its usefulnesss massively

[half iron]

every team is dummy if they let a veteran nearby

[glossy ember]

I also miss 25 toughness at the top and 10% toughness damage reduction

[plucky flax]

I pick 0 toughness damage reduction nodes.

[slow raven]

that middle one isnt too useful either

stagger makes your next attack do more damage

[bright mica]

I'd probably drop these in exchange for 25 toughness/10% DR (whatever works out better mathmatically) and grab Taunt upgrade

What weapons are you using?

[glossy ember]

yes that's the normal HH build

[slow raven]

yeah that one

[glossy ember]

hard knocks is why I built this

[bright mica]

but yeah that's not a bad build

[glossy ember]

goal was to pick every damage node in the tree

[plucky flax]

This is all my toughness damage reduction.

[slow raven]

do you find hard knocks gives you significant stacks though

[glossy ember]

shield then either rumbler or kickback if I truly wanna turn my brain off

[bright mica]

Hard Knocks is better with a Big Frindly Rock build imho

[glossy ember]

any ranged weapon immediately caps it

[bright mica]

you get a lot more stacks

[glossy ember]

my heavy attacks usually give me 9 or so stacks

[bright mica]

that said you really want Big Lungs

[slow raven]

oh you stack it with ranged weapons?

[glossy ember]

push attack can really ramp it up too

[glossy ember]

with both really

[glossy ember]

it's definitely a nice talent point but i can do fine without

[bright mica]

I'd run this if I were you.

[glossy ember]

taunt is still strong by itself

no payback time

[bright mica]

Payback Time overrated if you never get hit

:P

[glossy ember]

see the stacks here.

[glossy ember]

it works on block though

[bright mica]

Here if you rlly want Payback Time

The Best Defense is a bit overrated

[glossy ember]

[bright mica]

If you're in a situation where its a shit ton of Pox Walkers you have Good Enough toughness recovery

[glossy ember]

isn't the best defence really good on shield though, heavies constantly hit multiple enemies.

I could give it a shot thoug.....

[bright mica]

I never use it on shield because if you need a quick toughness boost you can just H1 a single enemy in particular

[unreal axle]

I had to doublecheck I was in #psyker-class , welp okay xD I do enjoy my ogryn too

[slow raven]

huh one of your pushes gives you 25 right away, interesting

[bright mica]

generally you only need toughness when you're against Gunners

[glossy ember]

yeah, because push hits everything including big ones who give more HH stacks

[bright mica]

otherwise as Ogryn you have excess

you ALWAYS want Smash 'Em unless it's a BB build

[glossy ember]

we're just really tall psykers

[slow raven]

when i tried it i forgot which weapon i used but it wasnt shield and most of the time it was at, like, 5

[bright mica]

because you can just spam doink a boss

[slow raven]

i guess ill try it again

[bright mica]

and never be below 100% toughness

[glossy ember]

gotta weave pushes to get more stacks pretty much