both work, one requires much more specific talent setup (heres one guys setup for blazing trauma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs)
#psyker-class
obtuse moth
vague chasm
Oh interesting, is the difference between nexus 3 and 4 noticeable? Because I'm quite low on plasteel and belssing hunting is quite a pain. If it is worth it I'll wait for the lvl 4 one
vague chasm
both work, one requires much more specific talent setup (heres one guys setup fo...
I'll give it a look, thanks!
olive ember
It’s like 4% extra crit
obtuse moth
I'll give it a look, thanks!
this is a quick explainer on how to play it if you go that route #psyker-class message
you can run nexus 3 for now and change it to 4 at a later date if you dont have the mats
olive ember
So where as t4 is 5% a stack up to 20%, t3 is 4% a stack up to 16%
So you lose 4% but running nexus 3 is still fine
vague chasm
since it is a pretty good roll I'll maybe wait for the lvl4, I'll stick with flurry till then
vague chasm
this is a quick explainer on how to play it if you go that route https://discord...
thanks for all the resources!
idle aurora
Blessings for rending trauma are standard flak/maniac damage?
plucky flax
both work, one requires much more specific talent setup (heres one guys setup fo...
This guy seems really bad.
obtuse moth
yeah stop being so terrible
crimson zealot
What spell combination are yall using with purg staff?
cosmic sigil
This guy seems really bad.
Sedition gaming. What did you expect?
carmine agate
Fish and cheese
plucky flax
What spell combination are yall using with purg staff?
Shriek creeping flame for more reach. Wall/bubble if you want to be more defensive. I'm not sure about gaze tbh it's kinda meme with purg.
You already crit quite a lot.
crimson zealot
Shriek creeping flame for more reach. Wall/bubble if you want to be more defensi...
What about your blitz?
plucky flax
Personally I like bb with it.
To kill sniper/bomber really far away.
And to deal with crusher.
(Although blaze trauma is just a better purga)
crimson zealot
Ah yeah, purg staff is horrible at dealing with amor
crimson zealot
(Although blaze trauma is just a better purga)
^Incredibly biased as I have invested too many resources to find out its mid
obtuse moth
assail works better for for specials than bb imo, but not for crushers or bosses
plucky flax
No wildfire with assail 
carmine agate
I do enjoy spewing flames..
obtuse moth
No wildfire with assail <a:nooooo:971102259490476083>
you dont need it for purg
plucky flax
That's heresy. 
obtuse moth
assail prolly best complements purg of the four staves as a long range option as long as you have a melee weapon for carapace
plucky flax
Me when I use assail creeping flame with any range weapon. 
obtuse moth
do people instaleave dark missions lol
glass forge
Does +Critical hit perk affect Trauma staff's secondary attack please? Perk says crit affects ranged critical strike chance and Trauma's secondary is a ranged attack. not exactly sure since games are buggy
carmine agate
Boom boom crit fwoosh blaze
obtuse moth
Does +Critical hit perk affect Trauma staff's secondary attack please? Perk says...
it does but the crit multiplier is very low on trauma and it already does good armor damage, so unless you are proccing something like blazing spirit its not that useful
glass forge
it does but the crit multiplier is very low on trauma and it already does good a...
ya im trying to have some fun with Blazing spirit blue flame on crit
glass forge
it does but the crit multiplier is very low on trauma and it already does good a...
Thanks, didnt know crit chance bonus is based off weapon's original critical chance.
obtuse moth
Thanks, didnt know crit chance bonus is based off weapon's original critical cha...
well the damage multiplier is, the chance is additive and not based off the base
severe folio
i cast laser
obtuse moth
(Although blaze trauma is just a better purga)
they need to let purg primary fire stagger crushers again =/
anyone get tilted when people come into auric maelstrom with weapons like this
like thats a blue probably sub 225 base rating weapon
my first t2 perk on the toon im checking on was @ 224
summer prairie
I was probably wrong about Overproof's scoreboard addon not tracking some damage if the minion health hasn't been initialized. I think that was just an issue with the solo mod as at least in the grinder it's tracking accurately
so you should definitely only look at the addon damage value, the regular scoreboard damage is inflated
vestal fulcrum
anyone get tilted when people come into auric maelstrom with weapons like this
I notice it often, but it’s not like I will openly inform these folks that they probably shouldn’t be playing Auric board with “suboptimal weapons”
If anything, we will fail. Failure is something you can learn from.
obtuse moth
i mean im fine with people running whatever perks/blessing and non meta weapons they want
vestal fulcrum
I learn to leave such lobbies before they inevitably fail
Jk, I don’t, but I have been thinking about dropping games that I know I can’t carry
obtuse moth
itd just be nice if they were at least over 300, since you're guaranteed that when you hit level 30. and preferably upgraded to orange
it shows to me they dont really care about contributing what they can
vestal fulcrum
Hitting level 30 in no way does prepare you for what Auric has in offer
obtuse moth
i dont think the weapon youve been using since level 10 or 20 is appropriate to bring to auric maelstrom
vestal fulcrum
People disregard their own involvement in a party’s performance, but, this game is making it somewhat hard to out weight the lack of a compent player on your end
That’s on one hand
On the other hand, tide games never really prepared players for their content
Which is a shame, because Tide games are somewhat complicated in design
obtuse moth
eh\
theres a clear progression, from malice/heresy/damnation/auric damnation/auric maelstrom
people just dont care
vestal fulcrum
Maybe. I can’t speak for them all, I just notice certain tendencies in my personal experience, while playing in public lobbies
I am happy each time I see a competent team player
And shudder every time I have to help someone manage the threat they should completely be able to handle at “that” level of play
glass forge
do higher difficulty missions give better gear rewards compared to lower missions?
vestal fulcrum
do higher difficulty missions give better gear rewards compared to lower mission...
Their completion can give you higher rarity equipment, if that’s what you’re asking
glass forge
Their completion can give you higher rarity equipment, if that’s what you’re ask...
yes, thank you
vestal fulcrum
Just rarity - the range of sum of modifiers is still from 300 to 380
young meteor
Does +Critical hit perk affect Trauma staff's secondary attack please? Perk says...
Yes, and there's a whole build based around crit trauma
thin loom
question, when you get to 100% peril and keep tapping the "charge brain rupture" it keeps it at 100% without making you go boom, does this count for the warp battery penence?
thin loom
OH, that would explain
so when it says max, I assume that means if you dont have warp battery (the talent) you only need 4
potent echo
I think so, I finished mine long ago before the big patch
thin loom
I just got back into game myself,, its so much more fun than when it came out
potent echo
Definitely
summer prairie
assail right click has 50m range and you can keep the target lock by holding rmb, not sure why you would want to but anyway https://streamable.com/rxdhuy
digital narwhal
assail right click has 50m range and you can keep the target lock by holding rmb...
Can help vs Bulwarks
Aim at them, flick up and throw
They'll then stagger
summer prairie
yeah that can be useful
summer prairie
I guess you can also use it a bit like BB and instead of immediately releasing go back into cover
stone plover
Whats the difference between a MK III and MK IV trauma force staff?
vapid lichen
there's only one trauma force staff
are you looking at a trauma (mk3) and a void (mk4)
west stream
That pistol is nice
Though ghost isnt really necessary
Empathic evasion covers it usually
vapid lichen
the illisi and ds4 look fixable to me
west stream
Revolver is nice too but id swap second blessing for hand cannon
near wyvern
assail right click has 50m range and you can keep the target lock by holding rmb...
Funnily it provides also the BB flash if you hold RMB long enough
near wyvern
Can help vs Bulwarks
Aim at them, flick up and throw
They'll then stagger
Not every time but yes, usually 1 out of 2 tries will do it
obtuse moth
assail right click has 50m range and you can keep the target lock by holding rmb...
oh holding lock, thats great for ducking behind cover after you throw it at a special when theres a bunch of stuff in the way
summer prairie
once assail rmb has the target lock the range is longer, might technically be infinite or limited by the flight time value
obtuse moth
even if you let go of rmb?
summer prairie
no
echo turtle
They're good, just optimize the blessings and perks and you will do great
plucky flax
Interesting trauma this guy in my team run.
obtuse moth
hmm, i wonder what talents they have
theyd be between 10% and 20% crit chance depending
vestal fulcrum
Interesting trauma this guy in my team run.
True aim capitalisation staff 
?
potent echo
Sometimes I chuck a rmb and looked away and it still hit
summer prairie
looking at the target does nothing with rmb
or maybe it keeps following after the initial hit
potent echo
There's usually not enough time for it to travel
obtuse moth
looks like it always hits first target, then follows cursor after
provided it doesnt collide with something and run out of flight time recovering
obtuse moth
Funnily it provides also the BB flash if you hold RMB long enough
ahh i can't unsee that flash now
potent echo
you mean after it hits?
Yea what noth said, I'm too tired for words now
plucky flax
True aim capitalisation staff <a:eyesshaking:913476080747286590> ?
Least damage in the team. Veri pro.
frail sand
why would this psyker bring VIIa to a melee maelstrom 
plucky flax
It's me I was meant to bring blaze trauma but wrong loadout.
frail sand
its not even VId, it's VIIa
tepid peak
Havent played psyker in months, are there any fun builds I should check out?
kindred delta
Interesting trauma this guy in my team run.
Man I need blazing spirit on a nomanus or something
Is deflector still good btw?
feral verge
Is deflector still good btw?
Deflector functions the same
If you are comfortable with dodging ranged, I don't recommend deflector
obtuse moth
less useful than it used to be with ranged immunity on crit
summer prairie
if you don't use your melee much, you should have deflector
obtuse moth
and bubble
feral verge
Use uncanny strike, slaughterer, unstable power
obtuse moth
theres also a lot more toughness gen talents, and assail chews up ranged enemies
summer prairie
dodging ranged is a meme in the situations where it matters
cloud heron
some blessings are just stupidly rare
i've heard that reblessing a blue with a t4 blessing makes it more likely to get another t4 blessing when you make it orange
not actually sure how true that is, since I think orange already has an increased chance of being t4
obtuse moth
raises total weapon rating but normally what you do is bless it with a t4 blessing yhou don't want
if you're farming for new blessings
kindred delta
if you don't use your melee much, you should have deflector
I use it when I need it, Aka when hordes happen and I can do clearing with light attacks with my illisi
obtuse moth
you can't get a blessing as a drop that you already have on the weapon
kindred delta
I should use my trauma staff more
obtuse moth
more useful in the era when you always got one blessing and one perk slot to respec
kindred delta
How OP is slaughterer?
frail sand
bruh, i was playing fire trauma
as soon as my teammate shot a burster in my face
we wiped
obtuse moth
How OP is slaughterer?
40% is still really strong, not the 100% it used to be
iron flame
I think game is telling me to play Gunker
frail sand
melee maelstrom is pretty comfy, as long as teammates don't scatter around everywhere and shoot bursters other ppl are pushing
vale hatch
almost perfect
plucky flax
Didn't manage 1000k. Rumbler ogryn and plasma vet too op.
plucky flax
It's a really powerful weapon for melee maelstrom with vet ammo.
Just spam it and stick them to bulwarks/crushers.
sweet pelican
wait its mele hurts alot wtf?
untold widget
no it's really ammo efficient so that the vet ammo aura keeps you topped up
sweet pelican
i cant for the life of me pick what staff to play
untold widget
all of them and swap whenever you feel like it?
plucky flax
Don't play trauma it's bad.
untold widget
lol
sweet pelican
i like the purg one but i dont think my staff is doing good dmg
untold widget
how have you built it?
plucky flax
Didn't manage 1000k. Rumbler ogryn and plasma vet too op.
With the default scoreboard maybe 1000k actually since that one is super inflated. :p
untold widget
purg gives soulfire, so building into that will go a long ways
sweet pelican
like im lvl 22 idk if my builds done
untold widget
oh
sweet pelican
idk if cuz im jsut 22 or my fire or build sucks
untold widget
well that makes sense
sweet pelican
thats what im confused
sweet pelican
any staff u reccomend for lvling phase cuz im guessing purg is better for later right?
untold widget
don't worry too much until you get to 30, the lower difficulties aren't going to really showcase your build too much due to lower spawns
plucky flax
For levelling pick assail and ep.
untold widget
yeah
plucky flax
Then queue up damnation and spam left click.
sweet pelican
ep is what exactly again?
sweet pelican
oh i see
untold widget
gives free assail shards
sweet pelican
do i go with shout abiltiy with it?
untold widget
I like getting stacks of EP on elite kill
I tend to like shield until you get comfortable soloing
helps the team, helps yourself, good all around choice
sweet pelican
i like assail but i do like no dmg on monst/carapice guys
untold widget
yeah
sweet pelican
i was told to get a knife for that
untold widget
ogryns and mutants are what melee is for. Dueling sword MkIV stabs them in the face real good
I haven't done much knife stuff on psyker, I know knife zealot is really good though so ymmv
sweet pelican
when im on my ogryn most psykers i saw in auric i noticed had either knife of the rapier looking thing
untold widget
I tend towards Mk IV dueling sword (rapier lookin thing) or Deimos force blade (has the barbed end on it)
but I've got pretty decent rolls on those so mine are slightly overtuned
sweet pelican
so for deimos sword do i just power it up and beat up the guys?
untold widget
well you really want Uncanny Strike on it
when you charge and hit a weakspot, youget 4 stacks of rending
sweet pelican
untold widget
then you can double heavy Crushers pretty reliably
sweet pelican
i see
untold widget
but you have to hit weakspots with both strikes so accuracy will be paramount
sweet pelican
this is good info all of this
i swear psyker doesnt feel so simple compared to the rest of the guys i lvled
well i never touched zealot but yea
untold widget
the dueling sword that I mentioned, Mk IV, has really great light attacks for horde clear if you get cornered, and the heavies are only stabs so great for armor
sweet pelican
for the assial build what cohrency u reccomend?
vapid lichen
I haven't done much knife stuff on psyker, I know knife zealot is really good th...
i dont think knife is gonna work without much rending at lvl22
sweet pelican
i dont think knife is gonna work without much rending at lvl22
ah i guess he meant max lvl
untold widget
I don't gun psyker in anything but low level stuff so I can't speak to it
sweet pelican
i played alot of ogryn at start played abit of vet but then went back to ogryn cuz ngl not a fanof the new rework
untold widget
if I'm not evaporating rooms in Auric damnation, my rando teammates get swarmed eventually
sweet pelican
it just feels weird going from ogryn killing alot of elites and monstrosity solo
to doing nothing to big guys but destroying small guys
untold widget
well monstrosities tend to have some warp resistance, so what I do is deal with trash mobs while the team does monster work (unless thers no trash mobs to deal with, and then I just help best I can)
weak galleon
was voidstrike nerfed back or smth, in one of the updates?
sweet pelican
i do appreciate the psykers that stun the whole group with that hand lightning ability
plucky flax
was voidstrike nerfed back or smth, in one of the updates?
Yeah patch 14 nerfed its damage.
sweet pelican
void strike is the big ball attack right?
weak galleon
void strike is the big ball attack right?
yeah. feel like i'm lacking damage heavily when using it.
sweet pelican
it did feel nice using the big ball staff
untold widget
voidstrike needs weakspots to really do much
vapid lichen
goes crazy with surge blessing tho
untold widget
I'm holding off on using mine until I can get a Surge blessing
I have plans for a True Aim smite Void build that I'm keen on trying out
vapid lichen
oneshotting crushers with charged right click 
vapid lichen
uncanny and fleshtearer
very very funny with disrupt destiny and scriers gaze
probably not very good
but extremely funny
untold widget
and run dual 25% damage or do you use crit perks?
vapid lichen
yea
untold widget
this knife isn't gonna work then
but I can get uncanny 4 from it
so at least I have that going for me
vapid lichen
honestly i dont even know if it's good
idk if anything im running is actually good
but FUN
now im in for that
untold widget
this is where its at currently
vapid lichen
headshotting the disrupt destiny target with revolver is very funny
untold widget
damge is lower than I'd like
kindred delta
i love assail
You should try smite with venting shriek and soulflame
It’s so powerful
I like to carry sedition and uprising players though so
vapid lichen
new beloved baby...
vapid lichen
🫡 two wound
untold widget
cause they get hit a lot
one wound, two +3 stamina all with revive speed, combat ability regen, and block efficiency
vapid lichen
real
untold widget
I can block armageddon, at least until dogs get me
vapid lichen
i like two toughness one health
feels like the right balance to me
untold widget
I've tried bulkiness curios, but I just don't feel like I get any use out of them. I don't generally get hit unless I'm making a terrible mistake and by then it's usually a downward overhead from a crusher or monstrosity which one shots me anyways
glossy ember
Don't play trauma it's bad. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
propaganda
vapid lichen
see
im too busy getting chipped by random grunts behind me that i didnt hear because i was too busy blasting music
so i actually get use out of it
kindred delta
Don't play trauma it's bad. <:whatthefuck_heresy:1049724444207239168>
You see it used to be the worst staff ingame at launch 
Now it’s actually pretty fine to use
untold widget
oh yeah, I'm a sweaty try hard, I obsess over sound cues
untold widget
I've probably talked shit about you in random groups tbh, I feel like I can tell when people aren't paying attention
kindred delta
Oh well, my sword makes easy soulflame spread through crits
vapid lichen
probably LMFAO
untold widget
If only it procced soulflame on fully charged m2..
Smite with True Aim gives guaranteed crits on trauma blaze.
vapid lichen
when the drop hits in the middle of a horde it's all worth the chip damage i take from barely being able to hear my audio cues anyways
viscid matrix
when the drop hits in the middle of a horde it's all worth the chip damage i tak...
Sounds like you need to adjust the volume then
kindred delta
Smite with True Aim gives guaranteed crits on trauma blaze.
True aim is which talent again?
I get a lot of crits with smite so
vapid lichen
Sounds like you need to adjust the volume then
yeah im turning that shit up LET'S FUCKING GOOOOOO
untold widget
below kinetic deflection on the right bottom
weak spot hits (smite can do) give guaranteed crits (trauma blaze on crit)
so smite horde until 5 stacks, then swap and nuke
rinse repeat
everything is just CC'd and burning
and smite doesn't use up true aim
like assail does
kindred delta
weak spot hits (smite can do) give guaranteed crits (trauma blaze on crit)
Trauma blaze procs soul flame right??
I forgot tbh
Anyways this was worth the grind imo
sweet pelican
For levelling pick assail and ep.
took ur advice it did end me killing myself 1once and blew myself up 5 times
dreamy storm
oh the boss die when passing door with switch is still going on...
sweet pelican
i noticed i got a achivment for killing someone with me blowing up, neat
vapid lichen
took ur advice it did end me killing myself 1once and blew myself up 5 times
i fuckign blow myself up like once every match
it's great
untold widget
yeah I just can't do gun knife psyker
unless theres another room nuke psyker there for bulk enemy removal
frail sand
knife gunker imo relies on positioning very heavily
if you get caught in a bad spot it's very difficult to recover
untold widget
well you are also single target for the most part
so you just have to wittle things down one to three at a time
takes forever
vapid lichen
u could always bring the funny flying crystals and vomit all ten at once
frail sand
there's also the funny max bleed knife for bleed kiting
is it optimal? probably not. but funny.
hasty breach
im rolling for a purgatus staff. 1, is it worth it, and 2, what are the stats i should prioritize? im looking at a brain burst / soulblaze build. sorry for noob
plucky flax
took ur advice it did end me killing myself 1once and blew myself up 5 times
You're welcome.
vapid lichen
i play revolver knife on 3 classes im used to having kinda poor waveclear
frail sand
im rolling for a purgatus staff. 1, is it worth it, and 2, what are the stats i ...
flak/crit chance for perks, warp nexus / warp flurry for blessings, you want good burn and cloud radius
vapid lichen
is it optimal? probably not. but funny.
my favorite motto
most pugs are so bad anyways that u can bring a suboptimal build and still carry
but it does make it harder to recover when the situation goes down the drain
hasty breach
flak/crit chance for perks, warp nexus / warp flurry for blessings, you want goo...
why flak, if i can ask? i sort of assumed it would be rubbish against armored targets. or does it scale the soulblaze or something?
weak galleon
I fcking hate crafting system in this game, feels like some MMO, rather than vermintide.
i guess sustained fire doesn't apply to RMB either?
hasty breach
I fcking hate crafting system in this game, feels like some MMO, rather than ver...
yea it feels like diablo
vestal fulcrum
i guess sustained fire doesn't apply to RMB either?
It should, but I haven’t tested it recently, so I can’t really confirm. Bring it to Psykhanium, see for yourself
Pay attention to the buff icon
violet yoke
Na man people like him can't be bother with stuff like that! He should be able to craft exactly what he wants and be done with the game first try!!!
vestal fulcrum
Na man people like him can't be bother with stuff like that! He should be able t...
There's no need to be rude their approach, either
weak galleon
It should, but I haven’t tested it recently, so I can’t really confirm. Bring it...
done. it doesn't seem to work at all.
even on light attacks
nothing changes on 3rd 4th shot
smoky turtle
Emprah gave me this, what should I do with it?
Seems like it would be pretty good for a crit build, but I'm not really sure how much crit this staff can realistically attain, and if that would be worthwhile to begin with
Should I just replace both blessings? The base stats seem fine
frail sand
Emprah gave me this, what should I do with it?
Seems like it would be pretty goo...
maniacs to flak, surge to warp nexus, and u got a blazing trauma
smoky turtle
I'll give it a go
wouldn't Surge be better though? I can't imagine 3 stacks of soulblaze outweighing doubling your (already critical) damage, given both only trigger on crit
vapid lichen
the soulblaze gets applied even at the outer ranges of the rmb
where the aoe does like 10 damage
smoky turtle
ahh
that makes sense then
vapid lichen
yeah the fully charged aoe is huge too
whenever i sit on high and i blast a full rmb into a horde i can see the entire group get lit up
frail sand
real neuron activation
i forgor, does surge even work on RMB of trauma?
or only LMB?
vapid lichen
i dont think so
frail sand
otherwise u may be building for a rapid LMB dispenser
smoky turtle
vapid lichen
pinned guide has surge in garbage tier for trauma
smoky turtle
that's very sad
frail sand
i wonder why
frail sand
but if u ever want to build a LMB spam staff-
vapid lichen
wait maybe not idk if it would stack lol
smoky turtle
but if u ever want to build a LMB spam staff-
ye but that's what my surge force staff is for :^)
vapid lichen
void with surge and nexus 😋
royal granite
i've been running the revolver since patch 14 dropped i think
i sometimes experiment with staves again, nothing really hits as good
vapid lichen
i've been running the revolver since patch 14 dropped i think
fellow revolver enjoyer!!!!!
long wharf
but if u ever want to build a LMB spam staff-
Building for this isn't a good idea
smoky turtle
no fun allowed
vestal fulcrum
done. it doesn't seem to work at all.
That's because it's not supposed to proc on shot 3 and 4 - the description is off, as per FS standards
vapid lichen
i was a wingman enjoyer when i played apex
i can never truly let go of revolver my beloved
frail sand
it's an excellent idea
vestal fulcrum
It should work on shots 1-3 - the buff becomes active as a projectile is released
Then resets on a timer
From what I can observe, anyway
royal granite
i run smite since that hard carries teams in auric maelstrom who would otherwise definitely not survive
smoky turtle
I don't even remember which one smite is
I don't think I have one of those built
oh wait
the blitz
vapid lichen
lol
smoky turtle
royal granite
i tried running other things with smite, but when teammates are too dense to kill ragers who are stunned 2 feet in front of them, nothing cleans up as well as the revolver
long wharf
<:brainlet:650480536317460482>
It's okay, sibling. We all have smooth brain moments
smoky turtle
too much warp for today
royal granite
sometimes the lightning smooths out all the creases
vapid lichen
deimos push stabbing a rager is such a good feeling
long wharf
Lightning comes from the creases though
royal granite
yeah, you spend all your creases on lightning
vapid lichen
the lightning comes from static built up in the creases
long wharf
🤔
vapid lichen
but if u use too much of ur built up static the creases unfold
long wharf
Then how would you get them back?
bright mica
psykers react to this for me to do your daily first, you have 3 mins
you're competing with filthy zealots
vapid lichen
get them back? why would u do that
vapid lichen
psykers react to this for me to do your daily first, you have 3 mins
what does this mean
bright mica
what does this mean
just cause u replied im gonna do my psyker dailies first
also your pfp is cute
bright mica
oh okay
can you choose what staff/gun to use
i have builds for like everything
my goofy ahh
vapid lichen
revolver and knife with assail, scrier's gaze, and disrupt destiny
bright mica
you hate me
limber tartan
weakest revolver psyker damage
vapid lichen
bright mica
but sure let me build that
vapid lichen
i run that
bright mica
i dont even have a revolver on my psyker lmao
vapid lichen
because i am mentally ill
vapid lichen
weakest revolver psyker damage
let's fking go
bright mica
ok i dont wanna waste plasteel imma just run laspistol like a sane person
royal granite
revolver is very good
limber tartan
let's fking go
The issue is that realistically you cannot pull this off in a real game
vapid lichen
okay feel free HAHAHA
limber tartan
Since this is full 30 stacks of dd
bright mica
revolver is good but i have a veteran so
limber tartan
And you need ammo to keep it up and stack it
frail sand
ogryn big revolver
limber tartan
And this is just some revolver i pulled out from brunt's
royal granite
DD uh
sucks shit
bright mica
DD got buffed a bit at least
frail sand
???
limber tartan
DD slaps ass
frail sand
DD is great
bright mica
I love DD my gf has two of them
vapid lichen
it's a lot better when you can easily dome whoever you want from across the map with only the best gun in the game
bright mica
alr cya guys
royal granite
idk if the revolver has the ammo to keep up doming the random targets prioritized by dd
royal granite
even if you never miss, i mean
vapid lichen
it uhhh
ornate hamlet
Yeah
vapid lichen
i have an ammo vet slave in the form of my bestie so i try not to think about it too much
frail sand
just bring survivalist on psyker, whats the problem
royal granite
also competing to kill a target that your teammates don't know are a priority for you is so fucked
ornate hamlet
It's also important that you don't keep refreshing the buff every single instance they show up
vapid lichen
itd be so much better if it just decayed
ornate hamlet
If you just made it to 15, no reason to slam the revolver on a CIA agent across the map
Tru
royal granite
if you happen to be pugging with someone running an out of control trash clearing built, like for example every ogryn on the planet right now
it can be a bad time
ornate hamlet
I wish DD at least gave you a stack for team kills
Even if it ran on a cooldown or something
royal granite
gives you a stack for doming off your teammates
ornate hamlet
True and real bestie
limber tartan
DD is actually fairly easy to keep up at 30 stacks (at least for me) if you've got decent aim
vapid lichen
who up giving they teammates the dome
limber tartan
And since your stacks refresh whenever you stun a marked enemy
Meaning that as long as you keep hitting something that is marked you will never loose stacks you don't need to kill the dude
royal granite
ah do they
limber tartan
That is also why i run smite with it
royal granite
that sounds quite good
vapid lichen
i run 30s duration instead because i get so sad whenever it gets quiet for a moment and suddenly all my stacks fall off
limber tartan
at 30 stacks you pretty much 2/3 shot reapers with a laspistol, don't know about crushers but maulers go down in a little higher amount than that
royal granite
who up giving they teammates the dome
me getting stuffed in the valkyrie with 3 ogryns
limber tartan
I have tried running the longer duration one but since its only 15 stacks its just not enough damage to justify going it, at least for me
vapid lichen
getting stuffed 🤨
royal granite
yeah you know, ogryns big, friendly fire happens
ornate hamlet
Wait, I thought you needed to kill stuff
candid crest
Haven’t run force swords in ages. What’s good on them nowadays, perks/blessings wise?
stone narwhal
me getting stuffed in the valkyrie with 3 ogryns
fun
royal granite
deflect
ornate hamlet
Uncanny strike and a blessing of your choice
royal granite
force swords are defensive weapons
vapid lichen
does stabbing a crusher in the head with my deimos and knocking it over count as defending
royal granite
the only thing force swords do that other melee weapons don't is block bullets
limber tartan
They're defensive because they can block ranged fire and im pretty sure they are the only weapon family that does not have a counter attack after block push just annother push
royal granite
yeah but for every other task, there are other weapons that do the job better
limber tartan
also the range of both the pushes is greatly increased
vapid lichen
force sword push goes crazy tho
royal granite
yeah that too
blasting a rager on their ass feels great
.
i must be in a weird headspace today
vapid lichen
nothing wrong with that
candid crest
got this on 1st sword i decided to roll. am i correct that this is unbrickable and i can save plasteel later? 😄
bright mica
got this on 1st sword i decided to roll. am i correct that this is unbrickable a...
thats very good
and yeah pretty much unbrickable gg
frail sand
got this on 1st sword i decided to roll. am i correct that this is unbrickable a...
maybe want flak/maniac, but still very good
candid crest
thanks guys. i am just short on plasteel and i still tons of stuff to roll on other classes
so can roll like 5 swords max
frail sand
what else do u guys use on deimos apart from uncanny?
the increased power on repeated wp hit?
vapid lichen
i like unstable bc i dont pull out my deimos that often, usually just to stab large man or angry man
but that's probably not the best use of it
untold widget
the only thing force swords do that other melee weapons don't is block bullets
I mean a properly built deimos can 2 shot crushers, I haven't found a faster kill melee than that
proven stirrup
Petition for consecration to cost nothing but diamantine
It's absurd how this resource just never goes down
proven stirrup
Everything and nothing at the same time
You start using it for higher level items
But the choke is actually plasteel because you use IT at every stage of the gear refinement process
Whereas diamantine only comes into the equation later on and only barely
I'm very tired of never having enough plasteel for anything more than a couple rolls of something
frail sand
But the choke is actually plasteel because you use IT at every stage of the gear...
eventually it becomes dockets
proven stirrup
Well that's kind of irrelevant
This is about diamantine
Plasteel is going to feel terrible all the time unless you're just living in the auric level mission screen and not everybody is capable of that
Auric missions are exhausting
spring gust
Do I have to do this all in one mission?
limber tartan
Oh a lot of people live in the auric screen even if they are not capable of that
They just fail
proven stirrup
People can do what they want.
Getting to that point is just as important as being at that point.
All of my characters are in this weird, scuffed but playable state and have been for weeks
Purely due to resource bottlenecking
kind jay
Do I have to do this all in one mission?
no
orchid shadow
It's absurd how this resource just never goes down
I actually have less Diamantine than Plasteel.
proven stirrup
It's perfectly possible.
It's just weird because it takes a million years to get to that point and it's just generally poorly balanced
The fact of the matter is we need a dedicated diamantine sink
orchid shadow
It's perfectly possible.
I think for the longest time Diamantine was my main blocker.
vernal cove
i swear to god i got the amphitheater raid 3 times in a row again
proven stirrup
And they've not even acknowledged the glaring holes in the system
Diamantine has only once been my sticking point and that was before the crafting changes
crystal oxide
I noticed Voidstrike seems to do pretty decent damage on headshots for crushers and mailers. But I want to optimize this
How can I get to full charges to charge faster and reduce the number of full charges to drop them?
I have a roll with everything in the 70+ except warp generation
brave fiber
How can I get to full charges to charge faster and reduce the number of full cha...
is this english
crystal oxide
Basically I want to reliably hit two headshot breakpoint reliably.
And to charge to full strength as fast as possible.
vernal cove
so what is the 'role' of a psyker?
brave fiber
so what is the 'role' of a psyker?
anything your heart desires
But mostly support/utility, huge cc and single target dmg with some staffs
vernal cove
aight so im doing it correctly for the most part
steel flame
Is this good for my psyker? I hate using guns, but I thought that I might as well keep it
crystal oxide
I noticed Voidstrike staffs do horrible damage to bosses
brave fiber
I noticed Voidstrike staffs do horrible damage to bosses
Psyker in general does very little to bosses
west stream
Unless you are gunker
west stream
Generally you make up for it in CC and ammoless ranged kills tho
west stream
but not using a staff on psyker feels heretical
Enforcer psyker with gun and sword is the hill I shall die on
hasty breach
how much should i care about this quell speed
brave fiber
how much should i care about this quell speed
I mean it’s possible to play around it with vent if you want to do that, otherwise pretty bad
The warp res definitely helps make it less painful
summer prairie
it's very painful
brave fiber
You could also take 30% more quell speed in the tree if you really want to use that staff, might help
hasty breach
im just annoyed after rolling 20 trauma staffs that they all have some critical flaw in more important stats tbh
i have one with like 3 80s and then blast radius at 40 or something
brave fiber
The desire sensor is real
play with what you got, eventually you’ll find something you’re looking for in one of the shops
plucky flax
Yes
plucky flax
how much should i care about this quell speed
Too much pain
echo turtle
True aim helps a lot, it means you can also focus on perks and blessings that help with damage and sustained firing rather than crit chance
You don't need warp Nexus imo when you have guaranteed crits
If you have surge, that + flurry helps you DPS really well, if you don't have surge, the Quell on weakspots allows you to keep firing without having to worry about quelling. With quell on kills from the talents and quell on weakspot, when firing into hordes you may end up with net negative peril more often than not
orchid shadow
What's the current Docket / Plasteel / Diamantine cap? Google is failing me right now.
idle aurora
What's the current Docket / Plasteel / Diamantine cap? Google is failing me rig...
Dockets are 25 millions, melk bucks are at 100k, idk about materials
near wyvern
If you have surge, that + flurry helps you DPS really well, if you don't have su...
Transfer peril is not needed, if you wanna fire forever just take full Warp Siphon and Battle Meditation. Gives you permanent +24% damage as well.
azure bridge
surge is the double projectile on crit right?
idle aurora
Dockets are 25 millions, melk bucks are at 100k, idk about materials
i actually wonder if aquilas have cap
prime elk
your credit card limit
orchid shadow
Dockets are 25 millions, melk bucks are at 100k, idk about materials
Hmm, thanks. So dockets they went x5 the original cap, although for the life of me I can't seem to find any info on the original or new resource cap.
vale hatch
whats the trash stats for the staff and sword (the one that don't need to be high)
brave fiber
whats the trash stats for the staff and sword (the one that don't need to be hig...
depends what staff
vale hatch
voidstrike
arctic solar
why surge force staff kills doesnt proc "cruel fortune" (which should give 2 additional stacks of disrupt destiny)?
brave fiber
voidstrike
highest to lowest prio is dmg and charge rate, then blast radius and warp res, then quell speed
afaik
vale hatch
i play assail with illisi sword and voidstrike and i feel like i do no damage at all to monstruosity
thats horrible tho
brave fiber
because psyker does piss dmg to monstrosities in general
vale hatch
sometimes i play the deimos sword that can have decent damage on monstruosity but less effective when i wanna go melee with horde
brave fiber
id say your best options are deimos, dueling mk4, or brain burst (empowered)
that or go gun psyker
vale hatch
yeah i wanted to maybe try the laspistol
i don't like brainburst smite and assail are more fun to me
brave fiber
well thats the only blitz we got that does good damage against carapace or monstrosities so
echo turtle
Most teams don't need the psyker to deal boss damage. Bosses are easy to deal with, it's the stuff the spawns around the boss that is a threat
Focus on clearing the area, don't worry so much about the boss itself
brave fiber
^
literally every other class has ways of doing great boss dmg, psyker aint built for it
echo turtle
Yeah, and if you run brain burst you can slap some DPS on if needed. But realistically it shouldn't be needed.
Any ogryn can solo any boss, most zealot builds can drop a boss in no time. Same with vets
Even as my psyker, if I can engage a boss without mutants and flamers on me, I can dodge dance and defend and pick away at it on my own.
Bosses shouldn't be a major concern when building for this class
Hell, you can solo any boss in the game pretty easily with a Dclaw as psyker. Learn that weapon if bosses are a big problem
near wyvern
well thats the only blitz we got that does good damage against carapace or monst...
well thats the only blitz we got that does
gooddamage against carapace or monstrosities so
Fixed it
ornate hamlet
I still maintain the truest gamers will duel the boss with a sword and farm funny headshots
brave fiber
fair lmao
near wyvern
I still maintain the truest gamers will duel the boss with a sword and farm funn...
Melee is safer and better DPS against everything else than Nurgle change my mind
west stream
I still maintain the truest gamers will duel the boss with a sword and farm funn...
Duelling blade dodgelords represent
Attacking you just increases crit
gets hit one dodge into boss, launches into barrel, explodes and dies
ornate hamlet
KD users forgetting what stamina management is and blocking the boss forever
void kelp
Good to see that you will be greatly rewarded for playing Maelstrom missions
ornate hamlet
Your shcladen is a bit schit
west stream
I like to run scryer with laspistol and magdump plague ogryn
Not sure if effective but feels nais
ornate hamlet
Laspistol, totes
ornate hamlet
Nachladegesch.
lofty temple
Fatshark are truly masters of foreshadowing
They named the first force sword "Obscurus", foreshadowing the fact it would be driven to obscurity by the subsequent release of the Illisi and Deimos
near wyvern
KD users forgetting what stamina management is and blocking the boss forever
You talking about my sprint bar right?
wicked hornet
what stats are we looking for in Mk4 chainsword?
near wyvern
what stats are we looking for in Mk4 chainsword?
Check Atheneum 📌
eager mantle
Not sure if effective but feels nais
It's effective
Majority of people in my runs who deal more dmg than me to the monstrosities are when a ogryn with blaze away gets to focus on them
wicked hornet
Check Atheneum 📌
thank you! didn't know about this
lethal lagoon
Shooter hordes. Shotgunners. Specialists.
Opening shield bois, consistent crusher damage.
lethal lagoon
4-5 charges for crushers, not bad for how fast it is and easy to aim it is, but definitely not the fastest.
The recent hotfix seemed to have accidentally buffed monstrosity damage quite a bit for surge.
It's not terrible anymore, just "decent".
I have no idea what an abomination is btw.
I assume you meant monstrosity?
tulip trench
woops ya
spice veldt
kf2 moment
lethal lagoon
No biggie, you could have easily meant mutant, so I just wanted to be sure.
tulip trench
i use revolver/voidstrike a lot for carapace enemies and monstrosities
hows it fair against them?
lethal lagoon
It's easier 🤷♂️
It's probably 2-4 seconds versus 4-5 seconds for surge.
But you gotta hit weakspots for both void and revolver for it to beat surge.
And probably crit for revolver.
tulip trench
so the allure of surge is just ease of use
high average damage with only general aim requirements
lethal lagoon
The allure for me is running through shooter hordes
Cause no pub on the planet will kill shooter mobs at any reasonable pace.
tulip trench
fair. ive been assail spamming those rooms, but it still struggles
ornate hamlet
Surge is pretty neat
Fast charge, no aim, fuck-all blessings bloating the pool, turbosuppression primary
lethal lagoon
Using Revolver on Vet and Zealot, when it works, it really works. When it doesn't, it's like throwing wet tissue paper. Surge is pretty consistent compared to that. Full surgical stacks is of course always an option, but that is time spent.
ornate hamlet
What you can't stun you just left-click walking towards
tulip trench
fair
cause i have solid roll revolver and voidstrike
guess its time to farm a surge
ornate hamlet
Lob 1 (one) ball at a gunner's direction and watch it stop shooting
lethal lagoon
Surge is pretty forgiving stat wise.
Literally any 370 surge staff is probably fine.
ornate hamlet
I also don't remember it having such a big range for the secondary
lethal lagoon
Blessing wise, as he said the pool is tiny and only Flurry and Nexus are worth anything.
tulip trench
the left click is the same as void/trauma right?
lethal lagoon
Yeah, but better.
ornate hamlet
I think they changed that at some point and shit goes real fucking far
lethal lagoon
Surge has a higher base crit.
ornate hamlet
Funny that surge doesn't have surge
lethal lagoon
Staff left click with the auto mod, actally viable.
obtuse moth
its more that it has a crit stat that can give it crit chance and crit damage
tulip trench
what blitz does it pair well with? EP BB? ive been a big fan of the warp charges for +dmg and bubble cooldown
lethal lagoon
Unlimited power is always an option, surge left click is always there to handle snipers and too far away gunners.
ornate hamlet
I'd say BB because I cover hordes with melee
tulip trench
I'd say BB because I cover hordes with melee
ya same i cant replace my illisi
even with dueling sword being strong
illisi too good
ornate hamlet
But if you don't like meleeing hordes you can pop assail
lethal lagoon
Smite for me isn't so much for hordes as it is, "Oh look, there's 100 enemies in this tiny space, elites included, let's damage and stun everyone and then set them on fire".
surreal eagle
I bring smite for ragers, they are such a pain
lethal lagoon
You'll do insane DPS on chokepoints on Auric Maels
ornate hamlet
Admittedly I think surge and illisi already cover so much ground that I forget to use my blitz
lethal lagoon
Surge Illy is my pairing too.
ornate hamlet
It's so easy to walk around RMBing everything
tulip trench
so maybe BB for carapace+monstrosity
OR
smite for oh shit 11 crushers charging us
lethal lagoon
And yet you'll still run into people terrible at using surge 😆
ornate hamlet
I think BB might be the pick to cover for obnoxiously long ranges and guaranteed hits
Since for the stuff you can't shock you'd depend on the funny ball's projectile
lethal lagoon
Mark plus left click if your aim is fine, you can pop snipers real easy.
I rarely need more than 1-3 shots, which is super fast now.
tulip trench
dump stat for surge?
edgy radish
hi, what is exactly the peril mechanic when I blow up? sometimes I get to 100% and im able to quell but sometimes I just blow up
tranquil plume
what are the weapons or power for psyker to deal with carapace or rager squads ?
lethal lagoon
dump stat for surge?
Some people say crit bonus, but I'm more on the side it doesn't really have a dump stat.
surreal eagle
hi, what is exactly the peril mechanic when I blow up? sometimes I get to 100% a...
Only Brain burst lets you use it while charging to 100%. Everything else will blow you up when you charge to 100% peril from like 90% for example.
lethal lagoon
what are the weapons or power for psyker to deal with carapace or rager squads ?
Void, Surge, Revolver, BB, mk4 DS, Pro Illy Plays.
edgy radish
im on assail and it let me do it sometimes buy maybe it rounded from like 99.7
thanks
quasi junco
whats the mod that lets you spawn in shit in the Meat Grinder?
Need to practice on ragers
lethal lagoon
Creature Spawner
ornate hamlet
97% is the critical peril where you cannot start any action that consumes peril
lethal lagoon
Soloing bosses is pretty fun practice too.
ornate hamlet
Brain burst works in the sense that it takes when you started charging it
Staves take when you let go of the charge
lethal lagoon
Does 97% even matter for anything other than BB?
ornate hamlet
I don't use RMB on BB much, so I think it works like staves
lethal lagoon
I'm pretty sure you can release staves at anything below 100.
ornate hamlet
Might be that I'm wrong on staves
Worth checking since my most used staff is called Zarona
And my second fires lasers
lethal lagoon
I mean I feel like I'd be blowing up every game if I was wrong lmao.
So anything below 100 is fine to "release" for staves right click.
tranquil plume
Void, Surge, Revolver, BB, mk4 DS, Pro Illy Plays.
i run assail , illys and purge to deal with almost everything except carapace cuz idk how illy deal against armor
vapid lichen
hi, what is exactly the peril mechanic when I blow up? sometimes I get to 100% a...
what specifically happens is that you blow up if you do anything that gains you peril after you reach 100
tranquil plume
i upgraded max an illys sword , deimos takes 2 special while illys do 5-6 slash on the head against crusher in psykarnium
what am i missing ?
vapid lichen
you can hit 100 all you want as long as you don't do anything that pushes over the edge
crimson zealot
i upgraded max an illys sword , deimos takes 2 special while illys do 5-6 slash ...
Deimos special has an animation lock. Might get rekt by another crusher while stuck in anim
spice veldt
just how the illisi is
vapid lichen
things that build you peril over time can easily kill you since each tick counts
spice veldt
if only it had a thrust push-attack like the psword
lean python
i upgraded max an illys sword , deimos takes 2 special while illys do 5-6 slash ...
Theyre differnt swords with different piurposes. Deimos is the single target damage one and Illisi is the sweep horde one.
tranquil plume
Deimos special has an animation lock. Might get rekt by another crusher while st...
so i either do the cat and mouse chase with illy charge and heavy swing while dodging or use something else like BB , revolver ?
tranquil plume
Theyre differnt swords with different piurposes. Deimos is the single target dam...
so my loadout is flawed because i brought a purg with illi
spice veldt
I'd swap to deimos/duelling mk4 if nothing else, unless the illisi is the centerpiece of your build
tranquil plume
i want a loadout where i can deal effectively against unarmored and armored without having to rely team to bail me out if i have the skill for it
but i can only come up with assail , illy and purg which is flawed
kind jay
illy/surge?
lean python
but i can only come up with assail , illy and purg which is flawed
So i also run Illi and surge but im Bubbling and BBing as a support class
spice veldt
prob illisi to mk4
if you're comfortable with melee and not getting rumbled by crushers/maulers
lethal lagoon
i run assail , illys and purge to deal with almost everything except carapace cu...
You can swap the purge for surge or void.
You can also purg things and then quickly get stacks of uncanny on your melee
tranquil plume
So i also run Illi and surge but im Bubbling and BBing as a support class
i do 2 walls because is very good at stopping specials running through the team
so drop assail for BB , swap purge for surge or void
wasnt surge recently nerfed ?
lean python
i do 2 walls because is very good at stopping specials running through the team
so yeah just switch assail to BB and u got everything covered. Assail and Purge do the same thing
lethal lagoon
The surge strory arc is fairly complicated, but it's decently strong right now.
tranquil plume
what do i target with surge ?
queen fog
Yes
kind jay
^
lethal lagoon
what do i target with surge ?
Target...?
Also yeah, BB purg is a good combo
Can also do assial, purg, and mk4 dueling sword.
vapid lichen
wasnt surge recently nerfed ?
it was bugged and they fixed that bug
but i heard it's still bugged in another way lmao
kind jay
its not as bad as previous patch though it can prevent surge's usual one-shots
(sometimes)
lethal lagoon
So they definitely meant for surge to visually hit any body part. They didn't intend for it to do less damage when it hit limbs, which they fixed. But did they intend for weakspot damage and different armor hits on limbs, no one knows.
queen fog
I think not cuz there’s no modifier stat that effects weakspot damage on the staff but that’s just my guess
tranquil plume
Target...?
what kinda enemies should i prioritize with surge ? unarmored , flak , unyielding , maniac the likes
lethal lagoon
I think not cuz there’s no modifier stat that effects weakspot damage on the sta...
Most weapons don't have weakspot modifer. Also the right click does have a weakspot table in the inspect.
Surge is unarmored and flak perks atm.
Surge can kill anything though
it's espically fast at killing shooter hordes, you don't need to charge right click at all, just spam it.
Only for elites do you really need to charge it.
Crushers die in 4-5 charges, charges are insanely fast.
queen fog
Even without warp flurry
tranquil plume
revising my build
lethal lagoon
revising my build
You can try BB purg illy before making any huge changes or getting new weapons.
queen fog
Thank god we got multiple loadout slots then, makes going back to old/making new builds way more seamless
“Crap my new build didn’t do so hot in that previous mission time to press a button to go back to my old reliable”
Compared to having to remake the build every time
ornate hamlet
my almost perfect mk 2 dueling sword
blazing echo
I tend to use the IV, does the IIs moveset involve bug sweeps?
woeful patio
paper loom
Has anyone tried the mod that let's you modify weapons? I'm curious can other players see your nodded weapon in game?
woeful patio
Has anyone tried the mod that let's you modify weapons? I'm curious can other pl...
They cannot as it would cut into revenue
zealous oak
Have they changed Disrupt Destiny to be any good yet?
woeful patio
No
zealous oak
Sigh
obtuse moth
they fixed the bug that makes the marked target appear not marked afaik
woeful patio
Just played 3 rounds of damnation with it
no
Highlighted enemy still randomly swaps as you're engaging enemies
Haven't even killed the target yet and another enemy highlights
plain rune
can confirm
paper loom
I've used it for ages don't think I've noticed this
plain rune
also its not marking sometimes
woeful patio
It's a terrible keystone, needs fixing or a redesign tbh
paper loom
I've noticed ogryns etc don't get marked
plain rune
but its still better than other choices for gunpsyker
vapid lichen
it should decay over time instead of dropping all at once
woeful patio
I agree
vapid lichen
or at least mark multiple enemies
paper loom
Yea I use a gun
woeful patio
I prefer the duration modifier atm
paper loom
I like it you can see hidden enemies before they appear
woeful patio
It's niche though
Wow I can see a dreg bruiser through a wall, epic, sswish sswish and he's dead
paper loom
Bit when using a gun yhe other two are useless
plain rune
i need my warp minigun
plain rune
i want to shoot peril like a bullets
lean python
revising my build
I also think its important that you know im running a meme Blazing Spirit Illisi paired with Wildfire
woeful patio
Hot Take: Psykers shouldnt use guns
You have access to the warp, and you choose to throw bullets like a monkey
plain rune
hot take: psykers should get explosive bullets
woeful patio
The only reason I'd use a firearm is to take ammo and make vets mad
digital narwhal
You have access to the warp, and you choose to throw bullets like a monkey
Scrier's Gaze says hello
Empathic Evasion says hello
paper loom
We should just get a laser staff
digital narwhal
BEAM STAFF WHEN?!
plain rune
no
woeful patio
Empathic Evasion says hello
Purgatus bids you tidings
Also porting any of Sienna's staves 1t1 would be fine for Darktide
digital narwhal
Purgatus bids you tidings
Having range bids thee welcome
plain rune
i need my barrage staff
quasi junco
Lol I never use gun on psyker, as it lets the other classes have a better ammo economy
woeful patio
Having range bids thee welcome
Asssail RMB invites you to dinner
plain rune
i want to spam warp bullets
obtuse moth
Empathic Evasion says hello
you can use empathic evasion without guns...
plain rune
Asssail RMB invites you to dinner
i reject
woeful patio
You should reject Assail on principle
paper loom
Gun psyker so much fun tho
woeful patio
all is well
plain rune
no
digital narwhal
Asssail RMB invites you to dinner
Assail with a Gun is wishing you happy holidays.
woeful patio
BB Psyker is apex predator of the DarkTide ecosystem
lean python
Well since i have yall here, thoughts?
digital narwhal
you can use empathic evasion without guns...
It's best with guns, though
woeful patio
Blaze fun but bad
frail sand
Well since i have yall here, thoughts?
might as well go shred here
plain rune
overall bad
woeful patio
Wish it was better
frail sand
embrace the fire illisi
woeful patio
uncap the soulblaze stacks you COWARDS
vapid lichen
isnt crit damage terrible too
woeful patio
Crit Chance > Crit Damage
vapid lichen
at least that one can be changed
lean python
Its a meme Wildfire Purge build, not meant to be good lol
frail sand
it's not even good at memeing smh
plain rune
real
frail sand
not max crit chance smh
woeful patio
Unfortunate state of affairs for Blazing Spirit on melee weapons tbh
Needs something
young meteor
Well since i have yall here, thoughts?
Eww, blazing spirit
vapid lichen
devs dont even have the courtesy to make blazing spirit 3 give 3 stacks
echo turtle
Well since i have yall here, thoughts?
Blazing spirit is one of the worst blessings you can take
i have a 549 fire illisi
vapid lichen
sounds nice
quasi junco
wtf is this
vapid lichen
jerry's cool
quasi junco
LOl never noticed that before
lethal lagoon
Wow I can see a dreg bruiser through a wall, epic, sswish sswish and he's dead
Sounds like nothing, but a hidden dreg bruiser can do like half your health if he hits you in the back and your toughness isn't full lmao.
quasi junco
can a illisi tank a DH? Or no?
vapid lichen
ur probably gonna want kinetic deflection and deflector for that
quasi junco
I have those, in that creature spawner mod the DH just leaves when you aggro it
so I cannot test 😦
vapid lichen
yeah that's just how the demonhost works
it leaves if there's only one person alive
quasi junco
kinetic deflection with VS seems it could hold for awhile
obtuse moth
you can test if you spawn bots
tbh, mine hasnt left without the bots for a while now
glossy ember
it finally appeared
vapid lichen
i think it's specifically if it starts attacking you? idk
lethal lagoon
it finally appeared
Prepare for dissapointment lmao.
glossy ember
i can't even test that blessing out because my blessings are locked on my staff
i wanted it anyway
i'd unironically love run & gun if you could sprint while releasing rmb
sucks you can't
primal blade
lean python
what are BiS blessing/Perks for Illisi? Is Precog Slaughterer good if ur running Empathic Evasion?
lethal lagoon
Slaughterer+ personal choice. Maniac + personal choice.
Precog is not that good.
But if you already have precog slaughterer, give it a whirl.
I wouldn't shoot for it though.
orchid shadow
i can't even test that blessing out because my blessings are locked on my staff
Haven't tested it myself, but you could try this out
glossy ember
languid tusk
how do i spend my upgrades on this surge ?
glossy ember
sprint into unarmoured
languid tusk
sprint into unarmoured
are you sure ^.-
glossy ember
until they fix the armor roulette glitch yes
you can check the aethenum
And you'd wanna switch out sprint anyway
gentle cliff
You're certainly swapping the sprint into something anyway so
languid tusk
good point
trail mulch
does "surge" work with the RMB of the Trauma staff?
kind jay
no
languid tusk
does "surge" work with the RMB of the Trauma staff?
only on the LMB
glossy ember
how do i spend my upgrades on this surge ?
for the second upgrade I'd just wait until they fix the staff and then try out your breakpoints on all the flak targets before choosign to upgrade flak or upgrade warp nexus
but your staff is good to go as soon as you get unarmoured 
so no issue waiting to upgrade
fading iris
git gud and you will be fine
trail mulch
only on the LMB
emperor karking dammit. Would be awesome if it did...
Why are there so many useless blessings for the psyker in the game?
fading iris
Why are there so many useless blessings ~~for the psyker~~ in the game?
because of the roulette
you can't have only good blessings
need to throw some that are better only in certain situations, certain playstyles, and the full useless ones
trail mulch
I don't want "good" I want useful. I want "makes sense to be there":
Yeah, a "double strike" Trauma RMB would be awesome. Give it additional peril generation. Make it balance.
Goddamit. For an entire fragging year, I play this game and yet, whenever I leave a match and I'm back on the Mourningstar, I am pissed how poor the rest of the game is.
fading iris
As an Surge staff main and enjoyer, you don't want to have FS poking at your staff to make changes, trust me
Jimmy likes to do some wild coding
mighty olive
I just want pre animation change surge back T_T
spice veldt
make the circle on trauma accurate
kind jay
they already make changes tho
trail mulch
There's a reason C&C can also be "Cocaine and coding".
spice veldt
the visual circle on trauma defaulting to the 100% blast radius epicentre 😢
and no indication of the outer radius
trail mulch
Give me "gravitational pull", where the enemies fall over each other as they are pulled to the gravitas of the ring, give me "solar flare" "supernova" with burn stacks, give me "random sharp objects" for bleed stacks
fading iris
I just want to grill in peace!
trail mulch
and why do most staffs share the same LMB?!?! Another step backwards from VT2, not remedied one year later.
KHORNE WORTHY SCREAMING
brave fiber
and why do most staffs share the same LMB?!?! Another step backwards from VT2, n...
^^^ bro purg m1 proves that theres potential for unique and good m1s
been complaining about this for MONTHS
trail mulch
^^^ bro purg m1 proves that theres potential for unique and good m1s
Have you played vermintide 2? I have. Sienna has so many cool staffs there where the LMB and RMB are different. Our Purgatus staff is a 1:1 copy of Siennas.
mighty olive
Trauma too, similar to conflag
mighty olive
Haven't tried sienna necro yet but it looks sweet
fading iris
purg LMB needs to be turned to an Fireball tho
trail mulch
purg LMB needs to be turned to an Fireball tho <:KEKW_ogryn:1022077188322906163>
Siennas fireball was a charge-able RMB.
fading iris
that could work too, I just want lmb to complement, not to be the same stuff
smol fire or big fire is meh
brave fiber
i think staff m1s should fit the niche of the staff's m2 to some extent. purg has great cc on its m1s, like its m2, so maybe something like surge should get a quick single target zap that ccs?
proven stirrup
They serve different purposes
They can't just copy VT2 staves either, that'd get lazy real fast
brave fiber
that could work too, I just want lmb to complement, not to be the same stuff
tbf purg m1/m2 are good for different things, m2 on purg is slower to stagger things like ragers while m1s do it instantly
fading iris
tbf purg m1/m2 are good for different things, m2 on purg is slower to stagger th...
but if you want to hit something far, you will have to use blitz or get in shovel distance because the npc is talking smack, I want more options
let me use smol fire and big fire, but give me the option to change it if I want
brave fiber
thats fair, i do think though that staffs shouldnt have an answer to every problem
proven stirrup
^
fading iris
for example on my beloved surge, I have the best of both worlds 
brave fiber
i think the default m1s we have rn fit the void staff the best rn
fading iris
Which is fine but surge also has dramatically less aoe
the LMB spam covers that part 
brave fiber
they just need to be a teeny bit stronger
fading iris
it staggers
brave fiber
spammability vs needing to charge
fading iris
That you're complaining is on every staff?
I'm not the one complaining about the LMB being on every staff, wrong person
kind jay
just ani-cancel rmb
proven stirrup
Stagger is one thing, actually applying damage to wide swathes of enemies is
Oh, fair
My bad
brave fiber
just ani-cancel rmb
thats why i said they need to be a bit stronger
cuz fr
who uses staff m1s
other than purg
kind jay
i do!
proven stirrup
There's plenty of reason to use them
They're fast and can hit hard enough to take out stuff before you get to it or vice versa
it's just the fact that it's the same shot most everywhere
spice veldt
they serve a purpose but I would like something different somewhere
fading iris
I said aoe
the LMB spam turns into an aoe, you kill and stagger or stagger and kill... in case you hate your mouse button, your finger and wrist Surge users should use it more
kind jay
i do wish it was a big ass lightning bolt instead
spice veldt
they have nice stagger and respectable damage with crits/weakspots albeit not the easiest to use consistently at distances
proven stirrup
These ideas sound more like whole new staves
fading iris
which would be better
snow dust
i do wish it was a big ass lightning bolt instead
ass lightning? Sounds like some heretical chaos warp shinanigans.
brave fiber
make surge m1s a blast of electricity that knocks enemies down tbh
proven stirrup
You guys have to realize, the left click has to be weaker than the right click