psyker-class

[restive slate]

I identify as Varlet

[potent echo]

Workouttide

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/the-what-smile-whut-weird-stare-gif-16592004

[bright mica]

a vr darktide game would be cool, not like a conversion but yk made from the ground up

[lethal lagoon]

Crouch dodging in VR is probably the most exhausting thing I've ever done.

[fading iris]

this was a weird time to get back here

[severe folio]

peaking corner in darktide

[bright mica]

pistol whip is exhausting

[lethal lagoon]

^

[south spruce]

VR darktide but the moment a crusher crushes you it is the Dark Souls You Died screen

[potent echo]

Can I put my head in a wall and be invincible

[restive slate]

Shoving with Laspistol in VR

[sonic coral]

Getting mad glutes from all the teabagging

[lethal lagoon]

Laspistol would go hard in VR though.

[bright mica]

one hard song of pistol whip and I'm drenched in sweat from breakdancing while shooting

[severe folio]

vr darktide but when crusher crush you you die for real

[restive slate]

How will you Brainburst in VR?

[potent echo]

Dual laspistols

[untold widget]

just received this from my beloved

[severe folio]

bb in vr by using both hands

[restive slate]

Thats quite nice

[severe folio]

bring both hands up and squeeze teh target

[bright mica]

do the actual emote with your hands and whatever is centered to your headset gets targeted

[restive slate]

That sounds lewd in my head

[severe folio]

maybe it is

[long wharf]

You sure you're playing Darktide?

[lethal lagoon]

"Babe, it's not weird, I'm just bursting."

[restive slate]

Jacktide

[severe folio]

only darktide make me do it

[restive slate]

Poxbuster about ta bust

[bright mica]

I wish every vr shooter felt as good as h3vr

[south spruce]

Wait how would you assail

[severe folio]

if you bring your hands together youll pre-charge your blitz

[south spruce]

Do you just flay your hands

Pretend you are throwing cards

[severe folio]

yeah you flay your hand

flick your hand

if you want to aim bring up the other hand

very easy

[fading iris]

by yeeting the vr controller

[south spruce]

Smite is basically Emperor Palpatine moment

[restive slate]

Voice of Command VR requires you to shout so hard everything around you falls

[south spruce]

https://tenor.com/view/lightning-palpatine-sheev-palpatine-power-star-wars-gif-16503984

[long wharf]

You just flick the tip

[lethal lagoon]

I hate how many good vr games there are that have no gameplay, I wish someone would sell/buy those types of games and use the base to make an actual game.

[south spruce]

That would be so cool tbh

You just scream that shit in the VR

[fading iris]

the first mod for vr would be an big ol' boob slider

[south spruce]

Everyone gets jumpscared

[restive slate]

Boob so big they poke out of premium krieg armour cosmetic

[south spruce]

Beast of Nurgle boobs

its gonna be real

[ornate hamlet]

Mood

[bright mica]

h3vr take and hold is super fun and the modding community has made lots of mods for it but yeah I agree. to me though the gun feel sucks in many vr games. that warhammer sisters vr game was mid to me because the guns felt so mid

[restive slate]

Plogryn already has flappy chests

[ornate hamlet]

It makes me wonder

How does one make good combat in VR?

[fading iris]

++ The God Emperor protects ++

[ornate hamlet]

You can't simulate recoil or melee weapon impacts on your hands, for example

How do players control recoil on a gun?

[lethal lagoon]

The brain fills in the gaps.

[fading iris]

there is some

[lethal lagoon]

So it's the developers job to force the brain to fill in the gaps

[restive slate]

Wait... so if we're fighting Slaaneshi instead of Nurglites. Would we be killing hot chicks all day?

[ornate hamlet]

Hitting the hand on furniture?

[fading iris]

we are at the same time close and far from a player one situation in the vr

[lethal lagoon]

I still remember one of the first times I played vr and was playing VR ping pong, I tried to catch myself on the ping pong table and faceplanted on the ground.

Table felt so real, but it was just my brain and vibration feedback

I mean we alreayd have inbuilt phantom limb mechanics, VR games just need to trigger those.

We also consider "tools" as extensions of our bodies, it's why we can drive cars, which is a bit crazy when you think about how the avg person is able to do that.

[fading iris]

you have controllers that simulate recoil and that type of thing, you have vests to simulate hits, you have that giant thing for running, some stuff work better than others.

[lethal lagoon]

Sony is about to promote some mo-cap stuff, I'd love to see more mainstream vr gear of all types.

[bright mica]

h3vr has simulated recoil using muzzle rise. as for melee the weight of weapons is simulated by lagging behind. since your brain fills in the gaps these tend to feel way better than tracking your hands too accurately which often feels extremely jank

[fading iris]

I mean, only now we are starting on the smaller VR headset that doesn't suck part

[ornate hamlet]

Intriguing

[south spruce]

I am yet to try VR but I fear I am going to get so visually confused my neurons would think the woman in front of me is real

[restive slate]

So if someone rides me, am i an extension of their body?

[ornate hamlet]

Don't worry, just take the quetiapine

[lethal lagoon]

depending on how into it they are, they can have an emotional/physical reaction if you bump into something, as if they were the ones who did that.

[raven bramble]

Hot chicks, hot dudes, some that are a blend of the two, others that are beautiful in all the wrong ways and some that are just too perfect it reaches into the uncanny valley

[bright mica]

you don't need to simulate recoil physically, I shoot guns irl and in h3vr and honest to god as long as you're immersed it's a fairly genuine experience (although unlike irl you don't get blinded and deafened with every shot)

[restive slate]

Sounds more fun than stinky zombies already

[south spruce]

Kill them nonetheless

[fading iris]

What? You don't like to have your ears ringing on each trigger pull?

[bright mica]

shooting in vr actually translated to better results on the field irl for me which is wack

[south spruce]

🔪

[ornate hamlet]

some that are a blend of the two
new chaos flag 🏳️‍⚧️

[restive slate]

Killing is another form of pleasure

[bright mica]

although I don't think anyone has learned anything from blade & sorcery lmao

[south spruce]

time for me to shut up

[raven bramble]

Slaanesh cares not what form you have, only that you are perfect

[restive slate]

Slaaneshi are progressive before progressive was a thing

[ornate hamlet]

Speaking of

[fading iris]

everybody is gangster until the Noise Marine plugs in his guitar

[south spruce]

Praise the omnissiah

[ornate hamlet]

Tracking arm movement to a T would also lead to the whole arm shaking thing, right?

I vaguely remember seeing that in some VR titles

[raven bramble]

The absolute last person you ever want to hand the auspex

[south spruce]

"Begin Auspex sca-"
that one noise marine plaiyng guitar on the Auspex and singing Queen music

[crude cape]

is it possible to run assail + venting purge and still get a good base of +45 toughness or so?

or is assial just better paired with the other ults bc of tree position

[south spruce]

Just tree position I would say but you should be able to get at least +30

I think.

+15 you can get from bottom left tree for sure.

[long wharf]

You shouldn't be getting blinded nor deafened every shot

[crude cape]

hmm word

[lethal lagoon]

Learned how much capicity for violence the average person has maybe lmao

[long wharf]

What are you doing, firing .50cal blanks into your own face?

[crude cape]

is there a sort of defacto "meta" psyker build rn? ive been playing my other classes a lot, trying a few things tonight and can't settle on what i like.
I like assail + dome, however its just so easy to run peril limit. venting purge feels good to me + used to it from old patches but idk, BB feels bad

[waxen abyss]

Pastels for the flag god, blahaj for the blahaj throne!!!

[south spruce]

On the plus side you should be able to have good base DR for toughness

[long wharf]

"blahaj"? Dare I even ask?

[lethal lagoon]

Smite with flaming shriek + Surge. It's totally the meta. Trust me.

Trust me.

[waxen abyss]

Stuffed toy Blue shark from um iirc Poland that became a meme for awhile

[crude cape]

i just dont love smite, but i know its good

[long wharf]

https://tenor.com/view/star-wars-admiral-ackbar-its-a-trap-meme-gif-8125029

[potent echo]

Meta is whatever you find success with

[lethal lagoon]

It shines when the enemy density is stupidly high in a auric malestrom.

[spice veldt]

should be able to comfortably get 4x +15 toughness depending on the build/path, with the fifth toughness node being the only one that you have to really go out of your way to get

[potent echo]

Honestly psyker has so many playstyles it's hard to recommend

[crude cape]

I use trauma, and feels like it overlaps roles with smite too muchi was thinking about this for big trauma damage + dueling sword dmg - and only using BB for snipers/spread out gunners/bombers etc

[olive ember]

do you like explody staffs, burny staff, epilepsy staff, or bullet

[crude cape]

this is +45% toughness +10% dr and +10% tough generation

[frail pewter]

real stupid question here
how do you quell peril as gun psyker

[raven bramble]

this, my i got three different kits and they all feel so different its crazy

[lethal lagoon]

What kind of trauma you using?

[frail pewter]

do you switch to blizt and quell?

[crude cape]

usually shattering

[spice veldt]

ye

[spice veldt]

i personally have my blitz on [X], primarily to accomodate assail

[frail pewter]

literally first game on gunker and im like level 35

it's fun

[olive ember]

passive quell

ez pz

[crude cape]

mines on [E] i swapped interact to [G]

[olive ember]

or use assail quel

[spice veldt]

and I have the multiple keybinds mod

where i have quell on [V] and [Mouse4]

[potent echo]

How do you generate peril on a gunker

[crude cape]

ah i need that mod

[potent echo]

KD?

[potent echo]

What?

[frail pewter]

prescience?

[potent echo]

DD doesn't generate peril

[frail pewter]

i mean scier

[crude cape]

sorry

i meant scrier lol

[potent echo]

Oh scrier

[crude cape]

im high

[potent echo]

Blitz or forcesword yea

[frail pewter]

honestly I am asking about peril bc i need a way to generate toughness

[spice veldt]

hi high

I personally run assail when using guns

and stack the toughness talents up yonder

so whenever I need toughness, I swap to assail and spam that shit

[crude cape]

@spice veldt i didnt get to see exactly how you run it the other week i asked, mind sharing your talents? i just am floundering back and forth stuck between my old habits on psyker and whats new

cant decide what i like

wanna copy yours lol

i had a 200toughness build earlier felt kinda good

[spice veldt]

this is the main core of what I usually run
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1176411489268138074/image.png?ex=656ec593&is=655c5093&hm=7f4971b6dd09b891cc9c8e9bc2029983320b3ff95332a931856b47d11cd93e3b&

in actuality, I run telekine dome instead of scrier's most times

there's 9 more points to distribute if you take that path

so this is what I usually run https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1176411607488794705/image.png?ex=656ec5af&is=655c50af&hm=5553b06e534859706bac3449dd98b220bc613196cea02cbb6cb289fe726175f3&

[lethal lagoon]

Feels so good.

[frail pewter]

I cooked this up, does it have any red flags?

[crude cape]

oh woah, so you run scriers without using a gun? still so you can mostly melee?

[spice veldt]

I usually run scrier's with guns yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Both the BB tree talents are meh.

[crude cape]

ohh i didnt realize you were gun psyker recently

whats your favorite, laspistol?

[spice veldt]

i'm on that columnus grindset

[lethal lagoon]

Personal opinion though, some disagree.

[frail pewter]

how do I deal with carapace otherwise?

[crude cape]

oh columnus iag?

[spice veldt]

4-shot crit strings babeeeeeeeeeee

[crude cape]

cool

[spice veldt]

ye

[crude cape]

blessings?]

[potent echo]

True aim 100% crit brr

[spice veldt]

DumDum + whatever

[crude cape]

like deathspitter and ff or something

[lethal lagoon]

Do you mean without the random BB attack or without BB? BB fine.

[crude cape]

ah dumdum

[spice veldt]

I run firefrenzy

[frail pewter]

Without BB

[spice veldt]

could go for stripped down and all that

[frail pewter]

unless I want to mag dump carapce on Columnus

which I dont want to

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, sorry I see the confusion, I just meant the two branching talents from BB are noth worth it.

[craggy reef]

Hey, I got a friend who plays Psyker. Could I ask some questions about perk optimization for their weapons?

[potent echo]

Sure, what weapon?

[crude cape]

hows the laspistol compare to the col iag?

[spice veldt]

scrier's is pretty neat with the columnus cuz of the long crit strings

[frail pewter]

ah, i dont pay psyker often, im a vet main but i like this so far

[spice veldt]

lemme cook up the quick math for the effective crit chance with crit strings

[frail pewter]

do people usually run assail?

[crude cape]

you rock dueling sword or illy with this?

[potent echo]

Purg is flak/ crit%|maniac

[spice veldt]

i run mk4 duellies most times now

cuz mauler and crusher patrols are way more common

and i just spam assail for hordeclear

[crude cape]

ya its so good vs them

[spice veldt]

and have rampage on my duelling sword (except for melee/monstrosity maelstroms, which I don't play without premades)

[crude cape]

but once in a while when im surrounded i miss my illy

but trauma obv helps that

[potent echo]

Force sword depends, I usually run unyielding or maniac or carapace

[crude cape]

which im still running a lot

[craggy reef]

So flak damage and crit chance on maniac?

[potent echo]

Yea flak is 100% BiS

[spice veldt]

that's what I personally run since I think it's the most fun and is a quick toughness boost esp when running guns

[potent echo]

The other two is preference

[lethal lagoon]

Gun assail was/is kind of the defacto combo. but then you need something like the mk4 dueling sword to deal with certain targets.

[craggy reef]

Gotcha, the blessings look decent?

[potent echo]

Never take terrifying

Always nexus flurry, but he can't change it now

[waxen abyss]

Yeah I've been building up towards Gun Assail because I really love the playstyle assail + gun leads towards, and I love dueling sword

.>

[craggy reef]

Ahh, gotcha gotcha

[potent echo]

Also for stats, you want >=76 burn

[crude cape]

its under 50% mobility i may regret, but useable?

[spice veldt]

if my math is right then 17.5% crit chance with a 4-shot crit string is effectively 46% crit chance

[spice veldt]

pretty neat

[potent echo]

You lose a dodge

[spice veldt]

on the Columnus IAG specifically, I would dump ammo

[crude cape]

do i run flak maniac, or crit chance perk?

[craggy reef]

Also how do blessings end up locked?

[spice veldt]

because the ammo scaling is 50-60 (magazine) and 500-600 (reserve)

[crude cape]

not that bad

[potent echo]

You can only change 2 things on a weapon

2 perks, 2 blessings, 1perk 1blessing etc

[crude cape]

do i rock 5% crit + flak, or change to maniac? maniac feels so important rn

[spice veldt]

if you're going from 12.5% crit chance to 17.5%, then that 5% difference translates into 10% crit chance in actuality

so make of that what you will

[crude cape]

hmm

[crude cape]

tough

[potent echo]

I would take maniac

Maybe flak isn't needed

Unless you really hate maulers

[spice veldt]

though crits have the problem of absolutely blinding you

so there's the downside with regards to accuracy

[potent echo]

I use sights so

[crude cape]

what use is assail, when you're using a gun?

when do you use it

[spice veldt]

toughness regen and for spread-out enemies if your aim isn't top-tier

and for staggering enemies like ragers

[craggy reef]

Gotcha, I appreciate the help

[lethal lagoon]

Hmm, I got 46.3%, have I been doing it wrong all this time and just sometimes getting close enough it doesn't matter?

Fuck

[potent echo]

Assail for absolutely destroying ranged patrols too

[olive ember]

what is this

math?

[potent echo]

If they are stacked up you just start chucking

[olive ember]

disgusting

[south spruce]

Assail is great for ranged enemies and hordes

[olive ember]

if I wanted to do math I wouldn't be playing surge staff now would I?

[spice veldt]

too bad I don't have my deranged sprinting vs walking screenshots

[potent echo]

Deranged walking?

[spice veldt]

i did some math on whether it was better to sprint at 0 stamina or to do a sprint-walk cycle

and then I just ended with "lamayo anyways you can just bunnyhop"

[sinful olive]

you guys think this is worth dumping some plasteel into?

[eager mantle]

You got back and forth. It's a free ranged option. Saving the gun for important stuff and situations

[restive slate]

Yes

[spice veldt]

assail is also just a nice combo weapon with melee if you're leaning into that even if you don't spam it

good swap properties and good stagger against ragers

[eager mantle]

Throw out assail, switch to melee or gun while the charges come back, swap back to assail

[potent echo]

Is bunny hop faster

[lethal lagoon]

I think that's wrong.

[spice veldt]

though that's a me problem since I like to just hold M1 and run out of ammo

[potent echo]

Somehow jumping while sprinting takes stamina, but while walking doesnt

[lethal lagoon]

1 - ((1-.175) ^ 4)) = 53.6% chance of a crit occuring over 4 shots at 17.5% crit chance.

[spice veldt]

the quirk about sprinting is that, whenever you enter the sprinting state, you always start from your full sprint speed

[potent echo]

I need to know if this is real I've seen like one person do it and they didn't seem faster

[spice veldt]

and you slowly decay to the 0-stamina reduced sprint speed

it is a very marginal benefit in the grand scheme of things

but it's there

[potent echo]

It works with sliding too?

[spice veldt]

ye

[potent echo]

Hmmmm

[spice veldt]

with sliding, there's some slight slowdown when you stand back up

[spice veldt]

oh yeah, binomial maffs

[potent echo]

There should be some slowdown once you land from jumping no?

[spice veldt]

it happens in some cases if you move your mouse while you're midair, because you're landing with too little speed to maintain a sprint

but you're only perceiving some slowdown because of the camera FOV shift

[lethal lagoon]

Oh man FOV shifts are so interesting, some games straight up fake sprints lmao.

[spice veldt]

if you turn off FOV changes with constantFOV and/or you have the movement analyzer mod, you'll notice that you don't slow down from landing

[potent echo]

What there's a movement anal mod

I need it now

[spice veldt]

owo

[mighty olive]

hello siblings, is smite/surge still borked?

[potent echo]

Yesn't

[lethal lagoon]

It's fully usable.

[mighty olive]

frig

[potent echo]

Definitely viable and usable

[spice veldt]

uh oh, I think the mod maker removed it from their github

[potent echo]

But it's alot more quirky now

[lethal lagoon]

So smite and surge now can hit any body part, this gives you weakspot damage but you can also hit limb armor types.

[mighty olive]

mrrr i hope they fix it T_T

[lethal lagoon]

I would say the current state is "fixed" for all intents and purposes.

[mighty olive]

[lethal lagoon]

Also, surge does good boss damage now

Well, good for a psyker.

[mighty olive]

is that with empowered psionics?

[lethal lagoon]

No

EP was fixed

[mighty olive]

ahhh got ya

i'll give it a go, graci ❤️

[lethal lagoon]

So the current bug is that Surge no longer only targets bodies, it targets limbs and weakspots randomly. This adds some damage and armor variability. But it's completely usable and pretty strong atm.

[potent echo]

I'll probably get constantFOV though

[lethal lagoon]

Also it's not confirmed it's a bug yet from what I understand.

[mighty olive]

what perks are people runnin with it?

[lethal lagoon]

Game will probably feel really weird with that.

Unarmored and Flak to cover the different body/limb parts of priority targets is what I've seen and what I use.

[potent echo]

Yea there won't be a real indicator to the sprinting state

[mighty olive]

got it, thank you so much ❤️

[crimson remnant]

lol

[lethal lagoon]

Hadron bout to smite down with her hammer boi

[crimson remnant]

i know

[frail pewter]

what does this mean exactly?

[crimson remnant]

when you crit you become immune to ranged for 1 sec

[spice veldt]

basically just Ghost but with crits

[lethal lagoon]

It sounds a lot better than it is in my experience.

[potent echo]

Yea it's not consistently reliable

In practice you should still be dodging to avoid ranged fire, but EE is nice when it works

[frail pewter]

ah i see thanks

between that and aniticipation

which one should I take?

[spice veldt]

it's likely that they pulled it off because it might've been causing issues and they didn't want to maintain it, but here's the version that I have that I modified if you don't mind risking a crash or just toggling it on in the psykhanium

[spice veldt]

empathic evasion, since anticipation pretty much doesn't work besides the +1 dodge

with crit weapons, i do think that empathic evasion gives you some decent value

if you're running the columnus, it lets you stand still and spray down a reaper instead of having to spam dodges and needing to move your aim around

[fresh reef]

Currently running EE just because I neo'd a shotgunner while using surge once

[spice veldt]

i run prescience as well, so I have 22.5% crit chance

• 7.5% base crit
• 5% from prescience
• 5% from the crit node
• 5% from +crit chance perk on the columnus
  so I get crits fairly reliably

[fresh reef]

Realistically I should drop it to invest further into WC or another toughness node

[tulip trench]

struggling to get value out of purgatus at higher levels,
should i be mostly using it the whole time? or mostly my melee and staff when appropriate?

[wispy pike]

Spray fire all over is all I do with it

[spice veldt]

when appropriate

if I think that there's enough density that it's not worth/safe to use my blitz/melee, then I spray with purg

bunch of ragers/maulers/pure horde event/mixed horde

[lethal lagoon]

Load up custom flames to protect your eyeballs and just spray and pray.

[tulip trench]

already did

also whats better for single target to combo with it? MK4 Dueling? or Deimos Force?

[lethal lagoon]

Anyone remember that surge bug? I couldn't drive at night for an entire month after that, cause the car lights were too blinding.

Fatshark wild with the surge bugs lmao

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 dueling is strong enough to have a melee build around it atm.

So that.

[spice veldt]

prob both work, not that I've compared them

[south spruce]

Both work yeah

[spice veldt]

deimos received a buff a patch ago, so I expect the difference between it and the duelling mk4 to have been closed

[south spruce]

MK4 dueling is easier to work with though

[fresh reef]

It really comes down to weapon feel and Dodge distance vs Deflector

[spice veldt]

i appreciate the special on the mk4 duelling sword more

fuck, why is the deimos also the mk4 of the force swords

[south spruce]

The special literally stuns ragers and maulers

[cosmic sigil]

deimos has a force push tho

[spice veldt]

i don't like knocking enemies down to the ground if I can help it

[lethal lagoon]

^

[cosmic sigil]

i like them groveling

[spice veldt]

narcissistic psyker RP

[lethal lagoon]

You mean your teammates groveling for you to stop knocking things to the ground?

[lone yarrow]

you little freak

[lethal lagoon]

I kind of like that

[cosmic sigil]

NO MISTER RAGER, ON YOUR ASS NOW

[south spruce]

Imagine not knocking things on the ground

[spice veldt]

i also think that the push-attack of the force swords is a bit clunky to enter

[south spruce]

[spice veldt]

I like the 10m range of it nowadays

[lethal lagoon]

I like the force push on laspistol simply cause it tries to make psyker guns unique and that should be praised.

[spice veldt]

but the slightly more snappy nature of the mk4 duellies feels better to me

[cosmic sigil]

Arcosnap

[spice veldt]

and also the duellies get rampage

[south spruce]

I use force push to bully the lone sniper into a corner

[cosmic sigil]

Deimos gets slaughterer

[lethal lagoon]

Going pokie pokie to a crushers head and it dying in a couple hits is funny too.

[vagrant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/guy-fnaf-purple-screaming-crazy-gif-25994994

arco rn

[spice veldt]

i am very stable (not biased)

[tulip trench]

for crushers with the MK4 you wanna special attack and heavy ?

stagger and stab?

[spice veldt]

also, that's more like you with how you play

[spice veldt]

if you want to be safe, yeah

[vagrant frigate]

no this is me

[spice veldt]

i can usually just heavy combo them down

[cosmic sigil]

My psyker is named 'Milady''

[vagrant frigate]

https://tenor.com/view/sped-up-dance-funny-dance-speedy-dance-fast-dance-gif-23833609

[spice veldt]

but doing the special is pretty safe if you don't want to risk getting owned by a lone crusher as you look away

or if there's a group of them

since the special has pretty good timing properties

[strong gulch]

this is accurate. I've seen the footage.

[spice veldt]

fast followup from the special into the heavies, and fast followup from the heavies to the special

[vagrant frigate]

i play zealot now

[spice veldt]

so it's not like it's much of a DPS loss if you decide to sneak in a special here and there

[spice veldt]

can't believe they laced their cookies with an addictive substance to coerce you to play zealot

[south spruce]

My psyker is named "mrrp"

like cat

[strong gulch]

Now when I don't have the dueling special I feel unsafe.

[south spruce]

meow mrrp mya

[vagrant frigate]

u should see how i play now arco

omega spaz

[spice veldt]

$4,500 spent on cocaine monthly

[vagrant frigate]

ill show u my zealot build

and it will explain

[spice veldt]

i bet 0 dollars into momentum

[vagrant frigate]

i dont have to mod to show it in one ss

let me build it

@spice veldt

sped

[spice veldt]

damn mainly one side

[cosmic sigil]

the momentum tg node is kinda useless

[vagrant frigate]

i like it a lot

[cosmic sigil]

it proces every 8s apparently

[vagrant frigate]

i like it tbh

theres nothing worth switching it to

[cosmic sigil]

good balance

proce on every dodge

[vagrant frigate]

i dont get hit

period

[south spruce]

You are speed

[vagrant frigate]

i am sped

if i get hit im trolling

[cosmic sigil]

you could also take close dmg node

[vagrant frigate]

wheres that

i dont play zeal

[cosmic sigil]

and use an iag with dumdum + stripped down

first one up top in the middle

[south spruce]

I still need to get uncanny for my duelist to replace rampage

But man
I am super broke on ordo

[vagrant frigate]

i thought that was damage reduction

oh shit thats 25% dmg buff?

if close

[cosmic sigil]

no it's up to 20% ranged dmg

[vagrant frigate]

25 base ranged dmg

[cosmic sigil]

the closer you are

[vagrant frigate]

i use rev

that will hit like every breakpoint

new ones

oshit thanks babe

[south spruce]

Reaching new heights and limits

[tame path]

Real quick

[vagrant frigate]

i made this build yesterday

[cosmic sigil]

i feel the difference too when i am using it (not on all my build)

[tame path]

Does this mean I get more DR with more peril?

[spice veldt]

ye

[vagrant frigate]

i had a character named xxxtentacion

[spice veldt]

scales continuously with peril

[tame path]

Okay cool

[spice veldt]

you get 10% toughness DR at 0% peril

[vagrant frigate]

so im playing him

[cosmic sigil]

but it's the difference between 1 bullet and 2 most of the time

[cosmic sigil]

and i 2 shot a mutie reliably

[tame path]

Okay that helps my Vet/Ogryn brain

[vagrant frigate]

ight ill go carry some pubs and clip some spaz shit

[south spruce]

Me going 97 Peril for the increased damage and DR :3

[cosmic sigil]

i never tried playing zealot without until death... even though i do not have access to it on other characters

[vagrant frigate]

i just tried heavy sword and hammer

i hate both

not fast enough

[cosmic sigil]

ok

listen to me

with your build

you can use a dclaw shred rampage

mobility is better on it and it's faster than the hsword

the crits will proce your crit cdr until the end of times

tactical axe is also faster and has a good base crit

the dmg would be much better with a martyr build but i play with a zealot outdamaging every psword, caxe and hsword user

you just have to be the first to charge and hit 😄

[vagrant frigate]

maybe

i swapped the toughness after stealth to the damge one

i really like the toughness from the bottom

i tried without it

i need that 40% bump every 8 seconds

its rlly nice

specifically with my style

[olive ember]

@spice veldt just to make sure

a trauma crit by itself is still only like 50 extra damage right

Compared to a non crit

[sacred crane]

grrr i wish i could change my voice from loner to seer when i wish to

i cannot decide between seer and loner, one seems so friendly and one seems so "im smart, you all are dumb, im the greatest"

[lethal lagoon]

Instead of overpriced cosmetics, they really should try releasing some voice packs.

Then we'd also get voice switches, finally, probably.

[tulip trench]

whats the dump stat for purgatus?

[near wyvern]

This one is still the best
https://youtu.be/fk7aL3DA9Dk

[sour bison]

Warp res

[olive ember]

quell speed -> warp res -> damage imo

burn needs to be 76+ and cloud radius at max if possible

[onyx sentinel]

Sick, was wondering if we could make it look similar to the peril bar from the beta

I never experienced the old peril gauge so kinda want to see how it’s like in a real match

[unborn flicker]

https://youtu.be/z_ZXxZ5YXwM?si=w1scCLIFf8p5wSaC

We’re definitely not Alpha, but I wonder where we rank

[olive ember]

threads about it pop up here n there

not too immersed in lore but iirc people said that player psykers can range anywhere from zeta to gamma

[unborn flicker]

Zeta epsilon is my guess

[olive ember]

Tho probably lower end yea

Atleast from the video our psykers can do funny palpatine stuff and mind reading but not like

[olive ember]

Eh damage > warp res imo

[near wyvern]

Only buffs the direct damage portion

[olive ember]

I mean it’s still a sizeable about No?

[spice veldt]

no idea but at least we can get consistently more crit chance nowadays

[near wyvern]

It's less than smite DPS

[olive ember]

9 a tick to 11 a tick

Eh

Cuz idk wat warp res is even good for once you are purging past like 80 peril

Which you should be doing cuz warp nexus

And warp rider

[near wyvern]

With purge you have to pump up and down unless you run battle medi, you want to do constant streams over small pumps whenever you can

Warp rider and warp nexus are there just a bonus but you shouldn't edge on it like you do on void & trauma

Unless you run like inner tranq with battery without battle medi, then you can perhaps edge with it

[olive ember]

Ehhh edging on purge ain’t that bad imo, especially since it’s like a 2 sec quell

[near wyvern]

Even then warp resist would make it easier

[olive ember]

Maybe I’ll have to get a bad and good enough warp res staff to notice tho

Think my current staff has like 60 warp res either way

[stable silo]

my purge staff shreds most elites in 2 full charge

its a strongk little bastard

[tulip trench]

so dmg is the dump stat?

cause the impact goes from 9-11

tick dmg is the main big boi?

what do i change on this?

unyielding to elite? flak? maniac?

[lethal lagoon]

But like, what's the cannon difficulty. Auric mael or t1? I feel Zeta, Epislon might be kinda low depending on which way that goes.

[unborn flicker]

If our power is scaled with the difficulty, I would agree with you, but we do not become more powerful

Our power stays the same

If we were a level higher, we would be capable of teleporting, and probably brain bursting entire hordes all at once

What a dream that would be

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like flaming shriek, assail and smite at t1 is brain bursting the whole map lmao.

[unborn flicker]

It’s still not enough damage to count

[lethal lagoon]

I remember someone mentioning being able to control so many different elements is a alpha/beta thing too

Well it is enough damage.... at t1.

[unborn flicker]

We’re not controlling anyone’s actions by mind control, we’re just manifesting lightning and fire

[lethal lagoon]

yeah, no mind control 😦

[unborn flicker]

I don’t really think you can count T1 as realistic

the kind of ass kicking we receive in Auric is more reasonable to how it would actually go if you sent four dudes versus thousands of enemies all at once

Four competent players working together, in perfect unison are probably equivalent to one space marine

[lethal lagoon]

I hope the guessed corrupted space marine boss is accurate, that'll be wild for whatever map that's on.

The bosses we have feel so meh after the talent trees dropped

[hollow current]

500 specials in a mission. What the fuck?

[unborn flicker]

I don’t think they’d ever be able to implement a space marine without it ruining the scaling

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like deamonhosts being so easily killable by certain builds already kind of does that.

500 special, dog mission?

[unborn flicker]

Technically, if you’re even near a plague, space Marine, we would instantly catch 1000 sicknesses and die lol

[hollow current]

mutant blessed nurgle mission.

Specials just spawned as soon as they died the whole mission it seemed.

[lethal lagoon]

Too space out as a team maybe

[unborn flicker]

Yeah, and they ruined the scaling of a Daemon host

[lethal lagoon]

They mentioned they had new punishments in place for "speedrunners", could be that going on the fritz.

[unborn flicker]

I don’t know if you watched the space marine videos that were made by that fan a while back

[lethal lagoon]

tbf, deamonhost was a pretty huge threat right when it was out.

[hollow current]

It might have bugged out. I've seen weird things happen like hordes of elites endlessly spawning like that before.

[lethal lagoon]

It still can wipe out a group

[unborn flicker]

But those two pyskers that they beat the shit out of were probably a rank above our pyskers

[waxen abyss]

DH is only not scary when someone cheeses it or the person its chasing is good at avoiding damage

[lethal lagoon]

The funniest part about the speedrunning punishments is they seem to punish the team rather than the speedrunner 99% of the time.

[unborn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer40k-heresy-astartes-space-marine-games-workshop-gif-19575166

This dude was prolly our rank

[lethal lagoon]

o7

[unborn flicker]

Or one below

[waxen abyss]

Yeah those psykers also looked like they were being boosted (or possessed) by the xeno they had deeper in the ship.

So they’d be extra powerful

[unborn flicker]

Yep they were juiced

[lethal lagoon]

They had the EP surge bug running.

[unborn flicker]

Lmao

It was pretty bad ass, watching them fight

I kind of wish we had telekinesis like they did

[waxen abyss]

The way the space marines defeated the psykers and the psyker powers were very thrilling to watch

Both sides of the conflict were cool

[unborn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-40k-warhammer-astartes-astartes-project-space-marine-gif-16568112402508265140

If it had been a 2v2 the marines would have gotten rolled

[waxen abyss]

They would have probably taken a different approach

With more risk

[unborn flicker]

You’re right

They adjust pretty well

Still, it took a lot to take out the two pyskers

That’s the dream

[waxen abyss]

Ye it would probably involve the possible death of a marine or a containment until reinforcement

They must have known there’d be those two there though

So they sent as many marines as needed and no more

[unborn flicker]

I don’t know if they knew exactly what they were up against

But they definitely had the right number of people

And the people they were attacking definitely didn’t have the right defenses set up to counter space Marines

[rugged hare]

Smh they should have gone with carapace armoured damage buff

[bold maple]

this guy have a personal bubble perma activated and insta stun equivalent of crusher ogryn

our psyker wish they were that cool

[unborn flicker]

I do wish it 😭

One of these days I hope they make sub classes where we can go for full psych

You constantly generate peril

But in exchange all of your abilities do a lot more damage

And have far greater telekinetic potential

[bold maple]

no cringy staffs either, just their hands

I'd disable my ranged weapons for half the things they do

[unborn flicker]

^

Probably never gonna happen though

[silk hawk]

Are u aiming to become a Gendalf of 40k? xD

[spice veldt]

we could get the constant peril generation part with a scrier's gaze buff at least

[unborn flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/destiny-destiny2-warlock-gif-9714996

I don’t know if any of you guys have ever played destiny two

But that feeling you get when you hear the noise of a void warlock about to cast their ultimate on you is the feeling I want to give heretics

[lethal lagoon]

If you they ever up the lvl cap and expand the talent trees, I could see them adding "ultimates".

[unborn flicker]

I don’t think it will ever happen. Unfortunately, the other three classes are limited by physics and laws of nature

They cannot be as readily buffed as we can

[spice veldt]

or cooler nuke-styled staffs

with a more severe peril/time cost

[silk hawk]

I doubt something like that is gonna happen taking into account vermintide2 experience

[spice veldt]

psyker staffs are great grounds for just doing whacky shit

or a more explode'y voidstrike variant, if they want to keep with the three-weapon-marks pattern

[lethal lagoon]

Voidstrike but grenade gaunlet style lobs.

[silk hawk]

On the other hand i can see random mod shrines that could drastically change gameplay while doing series of rounds being added, like what they did in vermintide2 in the winds of magic

Something connected to a warp...

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like there's a pretty huge fiancial difference between the two games, so other than fatshark vacations, it's tough to say what we can or can't count on.

[silk hawk]

But i will keep breath copium xD

[lethal lagoon]

Copium is my middle name, I almost believed my own comment

[silk hawk]

Althou i am waiting for fire storm psyker staff 🙂

[brazen warren]

columnus is better because I dont have to aim for the head and still get a similar time to kill as that

but use what you enjoy

[stable silo]

just u wait until the next horde enemy we face are plague marines just waves and waves of them, if we gonna break the lore lets break it big

[pale pilot]

i really want boltstaff and beamstaff

[untold niche]

For the customize HUD mod right, Can you make only certain buffs show/bigger?

e.g. i only want to see my 4x weakspot crit progress and maybe 1 other buff, but the 4x weakspot one i want to make it bigger.

Is that possible?

[pale pilot]

like if 40kboltstaff replicates something like a brauto for lmb and then has a big charge hit like a lucius for rmb, that'd be great

[spice veldt]

there's no granular targeting of specific buffs currently, but you can achieve a close effect by using Buff HUD Improvements or Better Buff Management and HUDTweaker

and moving only the True Aim buff to the custom buff bar

because you can currently only customize how a buff in a particular slot looks like

and you can't really choose which buff is in which slot at a particular moment

[untold niche]

thanks dood
when i was playing zealot i had like 8 buffs up at once which made me just not look at the buff bar anymore lol

[spice veldt]

😔

yeah

things have gotten

quite out of hand

[untold niche]

plus ngl, they all look the same.

like three of them is light blue background with black man silhouette in similar posses

[spice veldt]

I have True Aim and Malefic Momentum onto the second buff bar with Buff HUD Improvements and moved near my crosshair

[untold niche]

^ that could be ogryn :v

[severe folio]

director on crack

[restive slate]

Anyone ever tried Recon on Gun Psyker? Hahaha

[bitter escarp]

fucked around a bit with Obscurus for the first time in a while

[spice veldt]

crickets

[bitter escarp]

it's remarkably good against ragers

[near wyvern]

Yes, too ammo hungry

[restive slate]

Does Recon even synergise with Gun Psyker?

[sacred crane]

should i get it for the blessing?

[tired knoll]

nope

[obtuse moth]

Blazing trauma is best with really high density and spawns, like high intense Shock troop damnation and auric maelstrom. If you have good vets they'll finish off things before you claim the kill, but that doesn't mean the build isn't fulfilling its function. You also want to make sure you're staying over 80 peril and using the debuff mod so you know when you can venting shriek (use when @ 6 soulblaze stacks while over 84% peril) to get to 12 soulblaze stacks. Trauma also highly depends on very specific stat rolls and aiming the circle epicenter directly on specific targets. It's a tool for mass damage and control, not single target deletion. It's not meta, but it's not weak

PS: The burn radius is a lot bigger than the circle btw. You can also spam minimum charge to get to six stacks faster. Generally I don't but there are use cases for both max and min charge for burn stacks and for killing targets. Also quell cancelling makes your casts faster, tapping quell for a split second after each cast finishes off, bypassing the aftercast animation

[celest rivet]

I am torn between surge staff and Void staff right now.

[sacred crane]

what blessings should i use with deimos, i already have deflector on it

[silk hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/unlimited-power-star-wars-gif-10270127

[obtuse moth]

You could use Slaughterer or uncanny strike depending on if you use it for horde, or single target with the special action

[celest rivet]

Basically. Surge feels great for the mini stuff and fast charge times. Void is great for hitting snipers and clearing chaff

[silk hawk]

u can kill snipers with left click

[celest rivet]

true

I almost never use the left click tho 😄

[obtuse moth]

Tbh surge void and trauma all do fine at snipers with the left click

[silk hawk]

if u want to clear chaff, better use trauma or purge

[celest rivet]

I been on the fence about using the Purge

[sudden trellis]

been waiting for an explanation like this without realizing.

[celest rivet]

I kinda wanna make a build around it

[obtuse moth]

You would on snipers with surge or trauma...

[sudden trellis]

my current favorite purgatus setup includes using BB, shriek and EP. feels smooth as hell.

[obtuse moth]

Have you been using blazing trauma? Hope it helps! Let me know how it goes!

[sudden trellis]

havent really grasped the playstyle, but your breakdown kinda helped point out what I had been missing.

thenks 👈😎👈

[obtuse moth]

The burn radius is a lot bigger than the circle btw. You can also spam minimum charge to get to six stacks faster. Generally I don't but there are use cases for both max and min charge for burn stacks and for killing targets. Also quell cancelling makes your casts faster, tapping quell for a split second after each cast finishes off, bypassing the aftercast animation

[frail pewter]

The class is so squishy 😔

I feel so naked

[obtuse moth]

You have to play like a paranoid freak

[frail pewter]

But but I need to chase the disrupt destiny target

[obtuse moth]

Luckily you have amazing dodges and pushes, range immunity and block stamina from talents, and you can look around you every time you charge a staff attack

Just assail it from a distance with right click and directing it where you want with your cursor or shoot it with a gun

[frail pewter]

I'm a vet main testing out gunker rn
The dueling sword is actually so good

I love wildfire too much

[obtuse moth]

Even if you don’t kill it, tagging it is enough to keep your stacks

[frail pewter]

Wait really

Oh you mean tag it witb damage

Not ping

[obtuse moth]

Same with using venting shriek, hitting it with your F will keep your stacks

Ye

[frail pewter]

I realized that using BB will grant you the stack

Even if you don't kill

[spice veldt]

True Aim?

oh wait disrupt destiny

[frail pewter]

No disrupt destiny stack

[spice veldt]

huh that is interesting

[frail pewter]

Kinda like pre patch 13

[spice veldt]

so the mechanic they implemented was to straight up just give you kill-credit in general

and wasn't specific to warp charges

[frail pewter]

How half way BB will give you warp charge

[spice veldt]

very very interesting

[frail pewter]

But now it's DD stack

[obtuse moth]

Iirc you need to be more than past half way, either 2/3s or 3/4

[frail pewter]

Anyways gunker ranged damage is higher than vet lol

[obtuse moth]

I haven’t had luck with 1/2 granting credit

[frail pewter]

But vet has better melee

[near wyvern]

This is the biggest lie I have ever heard. A columnus with Dumdum 4, +25 unyielding takes 45 seconds to kill a plague ogryn with no weakspot hits (pops gaze twice...) not to talk about the ammo wasted.

With weakspot hits you get around the same DPS than the dumdum infernus Laspistol but only if you stay right under it's nose.

[frail pewter]

Yall use the keep swinging mod for las pistol right?

Save your hands?

[crimson zealot]

is shred servicable on IV dueling sword?

i see many builds going precog instead

[spice veldt]

i don't use fullauto since the mod overshoots often

since it's just a more sophisticated autoclicker

[cold hornet]

Is there any resources on what may impact soulblaze damage, besides just increased stacks?

[spice veldt]

it feels very muddy to me if the weapon shoots after I let go of the mouse button

[obtuse moth]

I’ve found fully specced BB good enough in many cases to replace my dumdum infernus unyielding 25 laspistol. No longer feel like I have to bring it anymore for monstrous specialists

[frail pewter]

Warp rider?

That's all damage isn't it

[spice veldt]

that and usually most damage/power buffs in general with regards to DoTs

[frail pewter]

Other classes have teamwide damage buff too

I know Zealot and Vet do

[spice veldt]

Soulblaze also counts as a Warp Attack, so Perfect Timing and Malefic Momentum buffs it

[cold hornet]

Interesting, I was wondering about it counting as warp damage

[frail pewter]

Perilous Combustion and Soulblaze are good yeah?

[obtuse moth]

Anything that affects power, rending/brittle, damage, or warp damage. Or anything that affects damage taken by target

[spice veldt]

i'm not a fan of wildfire but it's only 1/30th of your build nowadays so go ham

[frail pewter]

I have never used Assail

Do people still run it?

[spice veldt]

ye

I do, at least

[frail pewter]

I've seen it a lot less

[tulip trench]

i use it purely in spots where there is lots of gunners

[spice veldt]

prob people feeling the nerfs

[vale creek]

How make the aoe staff crit always?

[spice veldt]

but it still feels mostly the same to me

[obtuse moth]

Little amounts of spulblaze are useless, the damage isn’t linear. Once you start stacking it it gets really strong. It’s not as good against armour without rending, brittle. Still effective against flak, inconsequential against carapace without armour pen.

[spice veldt]

because you can always use your other weapons while it recharges

assail has a very minimal active time cost associated with it, since it's not a weapon that you have to keep holding to make the most use out of it, because the shards can be "aimed" as you swap to your other weapons

[frail pewter]

So far it seems good for mixed hordes for me

I'm using gunker so once I start killing Ragers and Maulers

The rest start dying by themselves

[obtuse moth]

6 stacks is effective, 4 stacks aren’t

High densities make it pretty good

[brazen warren]

dont believe me then, your loss

[obtuse moth]

Yeah combustion is good, you asked about two things in the same question

[crimson zealot]

Man i feel so weak when using Purg, is there something i should be doing?

[vestal fulcrum]

In which situation do you feel weak?

[obtuse moth]

It’s actually fun now that it’s not left click spam, you have to make choices on whether to use melee, range, or sail left click and right click and works best when blending. Assail kind of blows now for some gunker creeping flames builds cause you can’t keep peril high

[steel cosmos]

My fellow psykers i require help but i cant put my finger on it

[crimson zealot]

Armor packs and hordes

[obtuse moth]

If things are getting too close besides crushers, spam left click followed instantly by quell to rapid fire cc them

[crimson zealot]

i feel like people can deal with hordes better than i can

[obtuse moth]

Learn to use your dodge when you hear the sound and not to spam it when surrounded. You will want warp flurry four too

[crimson zealot]

and it takes two full charges to kill a horde

[obtuse moth]

And focused channeling can be a lifesaving blessing if you’re starting out

[frail pewter]

Creeping flame? Sr I'm not that familiar with the vlass

[cold hornet]

Been working on my purge build that seems pretty good so far. Getting my crit chance up on the staff helped a ton with adding double stacks to enemies.

[frail pewter]

Oh thr Vent upgrade

[obtuse moth]

Venting shriek with soulblaze, burn everything with six stacks when above 84 peril

[frail pewter]

That's interesting

How would gunker even generate peril, BB?

[obtuse moth]

You want a staff with near maxed cloud radius and burn of at least 76%, one that’s lower will have like 2/3s the damage because of stack cap. Damage stat doesn’t matter

[frail pewter]

Wait let me guess, do you run Deflector and charge peril off that?

[obtuse moth]

Blitz use, laspistol push, scriers gaze, force swords. Used to be mostly assail spam.

[vapid lichen]

hi psykers
does anyone know
for fire trauma staff and gaining warp charges
is the 10% on soulblaze or the 4% in coherency node better

[obtuse moth]

If more than half the things that die are on blue fire, the10% is better, it has 2.5x the conversion efficiency

Wildfire can help with that

[strong gulch]

Yip to both.

It's the one time I actually take wildfire.

[mighty fractal]

Oh man I love it when both stealth zealots cloak at once in the crusher pat

[vapid lichen]

does this mean i have to kill them myself tho

bc the other one is anyone in coherency right

ive tried both but i cant tell which is more stacks xd

[strong gulch]

No. You or allies can kill them.

What I don't know is if it has to be YOUR soulblaze or not.

[vapid lichen]

oh okay i see

[strong gulch]

At least, that's how it works in the meatgrinder with bots.

[bleak tulip]

lotta opposing takes on this one forever, some say its any SB in coherency some say it has to be yours

reminder that the first application of SB defined who "owns" the whole stack

[obtuse moth]

I don’t think it does, it didn’t have to be when the functionality was in ascendant blaze

[obtuse moth]

Just for damage/aggro

[strong gulch]

That's what has me wondering.

[obtuse moth]

Unless they needed to rewrite that part of the code for some reason it should have the same behaviour now

[bleak tulip]

Ive tested it in a match back in ye olden days and it seemed like they had to die by your hand while they had SB attached, didnt have to be SB but it seemed it had to be you
now people who play the game way more said it doesnt matter as long as theres SB on them and they die in your coherency you get a roll

so I would err on the latter I guess?

maybe its also just copium

because I would like it to work like that

[stable silo]

just take the 4% and let the emp decide if you live or die

[bleak tulip]

thats usually what I do

not like getting charges is hard either way

[vapid lichen]

i keep venting away all my charges so i was wondering which would get me more xd

[bleak tulip]

easiest answer is killing more elites

thats by far the most consistent way

[strong gulch]

In the meat grinder with bots, I'd get in fire reborn warp charges from them killing bruisers with SB (not enough to kill them directly with SB).

[vapid lichen]

fire trauma is kinda slow at killing them as far as i can tell
i think
either that or im bad

[bleak tulip]

hishock you can basically vent on CD and have at least 4 charges back every time

[stable silo]

i literally have like almost perma 10 second vents

[strong gulch]

Fire trauma takes time to kill single things, but aoe is where it shines. Tight packs of enemies.

[stable silo]

when u vent all over an elite pack and just pound em

insta restax

[obtuse moth]

Get to twelve stacks soulblaze, 60 things will die in less than a second, fire trauma is mostly for ultra high density though

[bleak tulip]

mixed hordes yeah

indiscriminate stagger and damage

[vapid lichen]

it's such a fun staff

[obtuse moth]

#psyker-class message

[near wyvern]

I don't need to believe you cause I timed it

[vapid lichen]

i see

[obtuse moth]

sometimes ill vent right at 84% instead of stacking up trauma burn stacks first if theres enough elites just to get the ball rolling faster and then rely on perilous combustion to snowball

[stable silo]

time to live the dream

[gloomy magnet]

[south spruce]

sheeesh

[near wyvern]

That charge rate is a nudge low

[wooden edge]

try or no?

or is charge rate too low

and quell speed

also got these 2

[frank seal]

is warp nexus good?

[vestal fulcrum]

It typically is a BIS blessing on a lot of staves

(if not all of them)

[frank seal]

I can get it from melk lvl3

ig I might as well

[hollow plinth]

hi what should i be looking for in a trauma staff?

is this decent?

[plucky flax]

Yeah it's so bad. Need buff.

[frail sand]

gonna craft a blazing voidstrike for memeing :3

[wooden edge]

ykw

i think i can live with this

charge rate aint ideal tho

but i think it should be fine

[glass prairie]

guys is this bugged?

i just had a game where i maintained max war charge for more than 90% of the game

[near wyvern]

It used to be better but they killed it with patch 13 by reducing the explosion radius, surge is your on crit blessing for void

[bleak tulip]

thought this was fixed

idk I misremembered I though there were more bugged penances in the thing

[south spruce]

I did manage to get this yesterday

[glass prairie]

does it have to be only on malice or something

cuz my eyes are on me charge the whole game

[south spruce]

I think it depends on difficulty and also your max charges

were your max charges 6 or 4

[bleak tulip]

I mean it literally says that in the desciption...

[glass prairie]

it says malice or higher

[bleak tulip]

so you were in heresy?

idk I did mine in damnation last year

[glass prairie]

whatever 4th difficulty is

[bleak tulip]

so unless something new broke

it should work

[vapid lichen]

i got mine with void staff earlier this month

[glass prairie]

that 200s on my achievement is denfinitely from like a year ago

thats weird

whatever

cosmetic can be cosmetics

[bleak tulip]

I think this might be on to something

[south spruce]

What if it requires you to have 6 charges at max to finish

[bleak tulip]

you maybe need 6 charges? though I dont think that was the case back then

[south spruce]

It shouldn't

Like you should be fine with 4 if you dont have the support node

[bleak tulip]

well yeah should

[south spruce]

But if it needs 6 then that should be specified at least.

[bleak tulip]

but fatshark coding being what it is, they mighta just called a function that defines 6 as "max"

or some fuckery like that

[glass prairie]

i had 6 at max

so emm

idk

[south spruce]

Because maximum can get people confused with whether they can do it without or with the stacks node

[bleak tulip]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[south spruce]

Huh.. try doing it with just 4.
But I had it finished with 6 max

Probably code go fuckin brr

[vapid lichen]

i played a mission with fire trauma on high intensity shock troop gauntlet on carnival

banger weapon

[south spruce]

Trauma go brr

[plucky flax]

How long was it?

[vapid lichen]

[frail sand]

does ur team move backwards always?

[vapid lichen]

we spent a lot of time not moving forwards

[frail sand]

1 step forward, 2 steps backwards?

[vapid lichen]

hmmm

just 0 steps forward

[frail sand]

i love when ppl forgor to push

[plucky flax]

The default scoreboard is pretty weird. It gives really high numbers.

I rarely hit 1000k with the addon now.

[frail sand]

have u considered staying in the mission longer?

[vapid lichen]

an extra 10-15 minutes should do the trick

[plucky flax]

No I try to finish asap while grabbing plasteels.

[frail sand]

oh my team has 3 zealots

[plucky flax]

34 mins 1.3k lessers and only 847k damage
(Not that I care about damage I only care win and plasteels)

As I always have top plasteels picked.

Consistency.

[spice veldt]

my plasteel picked up is not very good or consistent

I hope somebody makes a 2d map of mat locations so that I don't have to turn my brain on to memorize them

[plucky flax]

Yeah some sort of overlay addon with known material pickup places would be really nice.

[covert fossil]

best stats for a purgatus force staff??

[spice veldt]

the scale would be too much for me to hand draw it and some programmer with graphical skills or something is hopefully tempted enough to do it

mats generate even in offline games, so I assume that info is available clientside

[vapid lichen]

someone could probably make a mod to highlight them through walls

wallhack plasteel

[spice veldt]

probably easily doable

I know that the mod maker of the Found Ya mod said that it would easy to do

[covert fossil]

is this worth upgrading?

[vapid lichen]

burn and cloud radius are the most important

pinned guide has staff info

[covert fossil]

shiet

[plucky flax]

Yes please.

And radius autopick up mod.

Since you didn't have to look all over the maps for materials in vt2.

This change is kinda bs. Make a mission longer.

[spice veldt]

mats are nice for giving an excuse for teams to split

but man does it get tedious

or a mod akin to the book finder that says how many mats are in a radius near you at the very least

[plucky flax]

Well my randoms yell at me for being out of coherency.

[spice veldt]

same

I had this player complain about me being about coherency throughout an entire game

nothing bad even happened

no wipes or anything

I didn't get dogged

and he blamed the elite spawns that come with hordes onto me

saying that I aggro'd them

[plucky flax]

No one does it if I wouldn't do it. And I'm not about to play a round for only 300 plasteels.

[spice veldt]

yeah, esp on a map like ascension riser

like I'm contributing and I'm not even going that far away from the team

it was annoying because I encountered him twice in a row

[plucky flax]

My man doesn't believe in the move tech.

[spice veldt]

and he was dogmatic about it since he complained about me moving quickly through the underside of that area in power matrix

big cheese

this is why we bunnyhop to hide our speed gains

[plucky flax]

If you use movement techniques you are cheesing the game.

Pls stop

Imagine if he saw me infinite dodges crab walking.

He'd flip his mind.

[spice veldt]

simultaneously not moving that much faster and cheesing

[plucky flax]

Best move tech I did
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOknrmGUaGE

[spice veldt]

wow just like josho

[plucky flax]

Slide spin vault OP

[spice veldt]

teammates getting knocked by plague ogryns give me PTSD now

because I had a team wipe that resulted from 2 players getting knocked off by a plogryn recently

and me whiffing a trapper net but that's unimportant

[plucky flax]

😄

Funny skate grind tech
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xuq2ArWj-9g

[spice veldt]

pro

[south spruce]

I remember when a plague ogryn yeeted me and i was afraid I would fall off but I ended up at a downed teammate instead

He helped

[cosmic sigil]

Usually it's mutie bro throwing you out of the fire / the shooters los

[south spruce]

Yeah it would be mutie

I think the plague ogryn wanted to elp

[idle bay]

I have best mutie combo ever - Mutie thrown me right into the "fuse on" Poxbuster 🙂

[cosmic sigil]

That was poxbuster fault tbh

[idle bay]

And have you experienced mutie tag team? When 2 of them keep throwing you throw the rooom the get immidiately picked up by other for couple of minutes ? 🙂

[south spruce]

For me it was thrown into poxburster, exploded to a trapper who immediately netted me

and then a tox flamer burning me

[magic hull]

I always giggled when i looked back at old footage. Most calm darktide moment.

[south spruce]

Holy shit

[magic hull]

the bulwark 😂😂

[bleak tulip]

how could you

I thought better of you

[glass prairie]

guys what blessings should i use on dueling sword

i am absolutely in love with duelling sword it is the greatest weapon mankind have ever forged

[obtuse moth]

uncanny, then riposte, rampage or shred

[obtuse moth]

oh wow nice, grats on the killer score

[unreal axle]

what non-gun non-BB is the best option for dealing with monstrosities? is it the Deimos force sword? or one of the staves?

[obtuse moth]

mkiv dueling sword, purg and void do ok damage, surge is bugged rn to do full damage to monstrosities but i wouldn't rely on it

deimos is fine, if i were to use it i'd probably do lightstab cancel spam or heavies depending on timing/aggro

obv make sure you have +25% unyielding

[marsh wharf]

Whats the god roll on the blaze force 4 sword?

[scarlet moat]

Just use Chainsword

[feral verge]

unstable power, uncanny strike

[vestal fulcrum]

Sorry, FS 4 is Deimos?

[feral verge]

yeah we dont go by mks here, for force swords

we go by illisi, deimos or obscurus

this is a godrolled deimos (mk4 force sword)

[vestal fulcrum]

I kind of/sort of want to turn this into a Blazing Spirit meme VS, but ideally, what would need to be changed here for "optimal" results? Both blessings to Surge/Nexus?

(I already have a working Surge/Nexus staff for the record)

[plucky flax]

Hrm.. You can negate warp nexus with picking tru aim.

[paper loom]

That feeling finally finding gray 379 revolver first upgrade is 1.5 stam on use 😦

[plucky flax]

Transfer peril blazing spirits spam meme maybe Xd

[paper loom]

Anyone else hate yhe crafting?

[vestal fulcrum]

It's not great, I will give it that

[paper loom]

I've played since release have Beta helm etc and this is literally first revolver I've seen over 340

And it's knackered already

Well unless I carry on upgrading and somehow get x2 lvl 4 blessings and crit chance or something

[olive ember]

“Crafting” is a shitshow lifted straight from gacha game or looter shooter

[vestal fulcrum]

Its function certainly is not "exploring different crafting system in reference to how it worked in VT2". It's to leverage play time.

[vague chasm]

Guys I rolled this one, what do you suggest? I have to admit that trauma in general feels a bit clunky to me but this seems a pretty good one

[vestal fulcrum]

It's a band-aid system that wasn't ready for launch.

[obtuse moth]

mods make it a lot more bearable

[paper loom]

I actually enjoy collecting the blessings, maybe they could do something with that so a awesome base isn't bricked first upgrade

[obtuse moth]

just spam money at brunts with buyuntilrating

until its a high enough base rating to be worth upgrading, low rating gives worse chance for good blessings

buyuntil can autosell things under a threshold you set, buy a certain # of weapons you set, and autostop if it reaches a rating

[olive ember]

Uh stam to a relevant perk

And tbh it’s useable

also Either swap flurry for nexus or blazing spirit for rending shockwave actually

[obtuse moth]

theres a lot of other ones that are nice, like direct to hadron, or the one that lets you see all blessings, the search feature, and favoriting weapons with different colors to name a few

[olive ember]

Since blazing spirit is maxed out at 3 I’d recommend swapping flurry to nexus 4 and swap stam to something like flak/unarmoured/ wte the hell trauma uses nowadays

[paper loom]

Can you mod in better blessings etc you mean?

[obtuse moth]

no

[vague chasm]

This one what I was most doubtful about, I heard this combos but I was not sure which one were "better"