psyker-class

[zinc tartan]

Well without know what Crit Chance bonus I am actually recieving, I think im gonna go with a Dump Stat.

[lethal lagoon]

personally, I'm rolling 370-380 anyways, so I don't really dump anything on surge. I look for lower warp resist and quell spd generally, but they are still 60s.

[bitter escarp]

there was a point when it affected melee

[lethal lagoon]

^ psyker melee flame builds

[bitter escarp]

I kinda like the idea of using weapons as a dedicated/sacrificial stat stick though

just needs to be a formalized thing and not a bug

still waiting for team buff staves

give us a proper Biomancer FS

[fading iris]

2 nerfs and 5 bugs it is

[lethal lagoon]

I feel like this is a nice distribution. Although I have stopped running both peril toughness gen talents, so I'm wondering if I should look for 80 on warp resist.

[potent echo]

Buff melee

[bitter escarp]

"confirmed kill now takes away toughness under the effect of Cellular Control staff"

cue every psyker main rolling up their sleeves for a grudgin'

ok the hammer for a surge staff is cute and I can't believe I didn't think of that

[lethal lagoon]

It's literally the best thing in the world.

[bitter escarp]

I've been using staff heads for axes and crushers

[lethal lagoon]

I'm also wearing the MC hammer pants to match.

[bitter escarp]

"we have crozius at home"

crozius at home:

put the trauma staff head on a maximum stagger crusher, because why not

[lethal lagoon]

Speaking of thunder hammer, I think the limb/weakspot targetting thing buffed Surge boss damage.

[clear heath]

holy shit this guy's Thor

[fading iris]

Surge staff head on a shovel body for the ultimate bling shovel

[lethal lagoon]

Shovel looks hilarious on staff

[fading iris]

[bitter escarp]

40k Sha Wujing ass mfs

[severe folio]

hammer staff surge

are you the god of hammer or are you a god of thunder

(staff melee will be nerfed next patch)

[idle bay]

It's been a while since someone mentioned a run of the team of 4 Psykers with only staff damage from special allowed.

[lethal lagoon]

Dig two graves when you play a psyker.

[fading iris]

why is always the Ogryn shovel?

[lethal lagoon]

Cause it's hilariously large

[idle bay]

Bloodborne vibes especially with that hat

[bitter escarp]

that hat and one of the fencing jackets

[lethal lagoon]

Bloodborne 2 when

Bloodborne is the only souls game I played without looking anything up, what a great game.

[bitter escarp]

there's a certain charm to doing that with games

sometimes people optimize the fun out of things

[lethal lagoon]

I like how pretty much every pub I'm running into a different build than the last one

[cursive yew]

I once again urge all my fellow psykers to quit dyin and carry me

[plucky flax]

^okie.

[bitter escarp]

nah need to clock the reps

microdose dying to become immune to death

[lethal lagoon]

Run 3 wounds, tactically explode on ragers, become an asset in death.

[bitter escarp]

psyker needs that ogryn talent for bigger explosion radius

blaze trauma mains salivating

[lethal lagoon]

Yoo, so it seems like surge got buffed boss damage?

[bold maple]

every other class have a panic button to press, psyker dont

so ill keep dyin

[bitter escarp]

ehhhh

[potent echo]

I'm gonna kill way more than two people

[spice veldt]

i killed 3 men

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think we've technically killed any "people" though.

Are the bosses "people"?

[solar sand]

sooooo close

nearly broke 1mil

[severe folio]

need to up your rep that bot got you beat on melee block

[solar sand]

i was too busy doing damage lol

[lethal lagoon]

melee malestroms are so much fun

[solar sand]

usually only pull out melee to block bosses

for blocking at least

[gritty river]

Anyone else here run double stamina curios?

I run 1 wound + 2x +3 stamina
with perks:
60% gunner res
36% stamina regen bonus
45% sprint efficiency

Its the only way i can feel like a functional human being

other wise i cant run for more than 2 seconds before i have to take an asthma hit

[solar sand]

mk4 is just my running stat stick at this point, you zoom with it, though some extra stam wouldnt hurt

[potent echo]

Mk4 zoom is stamina neutral

[gritty river]

how did u deal 1 million damage in 33 minutes?

[solar sand]

smite and creeping flames, a little surge staff

EP

[gritty river]

even if all the other players were afk and let u be the only one killing

still hard to hit 1 mil

[solar sand]

nah aside from the bot

[gritty river]

wasnt surged nerfed

[solar sand]

they were contributing

techincally it was buffed

[gritty river]

and smite deals practically no damage right

[solar sand]

after being fixed

well

[gritty river]

yeah they made it so it only targets torso again right

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/1dm9Fp10PLY/clips/1zGd74qfSv--SJ/spok?invite=cr-MSxtRDMsMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

Actually slightly stamina positive lmao

[solar sand]

i just did nearly 1mil with it so you be the judge

smite doesnt do much damage

but it does a little, to a lot of people, for a long time

add in creeping flames

[spice veldt]

yeah, a lot of times you can just outrun a horde even without the duellies

[solar sand]

and its the best horde clear in the game

[spice veldt]

like on hab dreyko, I'll just turn around and run while doing scans

and it's surprisingly safe

turning around and just running away is one of the top 10 strats to learn

[solar sand]

its bug that made it busted was fixed, then that created a new bug or it was already there and the damage was so insane we didnt notice, so they fixed the random limb (resulting in reduced damage), so now its back to normalcy, and its still quite solid, killing stuff on damn without WS, albeit not super fast, but it stuns so its dps doesnt really matter for near single target situations, which was where i used it in that mission, maybe 150-200k of that damage was surge if i had to guess, rest was smite/creeping

i wonder if smite/creeping is actually better than original smite bug

i feel like it might be

with EP stats buff

[obtuse moth]

fixing EP didn't create the new bug, the new arms/gibbing stuff animation targetting added a new one. it still isn't as good afaik because targetting limbs means you dont get perk bonus

[solar sand]

well its back to usable again, it was rough for a few days there

[obtuse moth]

warp siphon is stronger for creeping builds imo

[solar sand]

nah smite needs EP imo, at least at the high end, that 50% spread seems to make all the difference, to me at least

it gets swarmed without it

[obtuse moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yrOmLUfNMw4 #psyker-class message

watch the kill feed

[solar sand]

oh i just did 1mil with creeping i know its busted

[glossy ember]

i wanna see the warpfire damage, have u clnsidered downloading the oven proof scoreboard

[potent echo]

Ovenproof scoreboard goated

[solar sand]

just have the basic one, but i bet a good majority of it was soulfire

[feral verge]

I have scoreboards

With this build

[potent echo]

But assail right?

[obtuse moth]

that vid is with Warp Siphon

[cursive yew]

My panic button is smite

[feral verge]

Bb

[potent echo]

So 275k ranged damage from purgatus direct damage and brainburst

[cursive yew]

I just hold smite and 150 enemies get stunned

Then it goes on for like 20 seconds because they keep dying and i quell peril with kilsl

[potent echo]

Maybe purgatus direct damage is valuable

[solar sand]

i got like nearly 30 seconds constant channeling during a big horde and lots of battle meditation procs

[cursive yew]

Ive not even refined my build yet >:)

[glossy ember]

670k warpfire good fucking lord

[plucky flax]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

[feral verge]

And that's with wildlife, which is currently not working properly atm

So if and when that's fixed

[potent echo]

How do you feel about wildfire purg

[solar sand]

is it not working properly, or is the text just misleading

[potent echo]

I think it's actually decent enough to drop warp battery

[solar sand]

i feel like how it reads would be busted

[obtuse moth]

its working properly afai its just sad

[feral verge]

That's the only time I'd use wildfire @potent echo

[glossy ember]

also yeah 250k direct damage from purg staff is stonks

[potent echo]

And brainburst, although probably not alot of those

[solar sand]

especially when flames feel so strong on pysker already

[obtuse moth]

wildfire is good for In Fire Reborn, or blazing spirit staff builds

[glossy ember]

oh yeah good point

[solar sand]

pretty sure ive played with that person a few times

[feral verge]

Pygex has been saying wildfire is buggy

I don't know what the exact bugs are

[potent echo]

There's the full explanation

On his atheneum

Only triggers after death animation. Most notably a bug.

Needs at least 2 stacks on the target to spread the fire.

Hard cap of 4. You cannot transfer more than 4 stacks total per dying target.

Can only target enemies with 4 or less stacks. Enemies with 4 will just refresh in duration and consume a stack.

Stacks are always spread evenly among suitable targets if possible.

5m radius from blazed target.

Will be spread by corpses if they have been lit after death when the Soulblaze effect ends on them.

[obtuse moth]

most seem like intentional limitations. doesnt mean i agree with them but they seem quite intentional

[solar sand]

basically it works to spread fire to targets already not on fire, for which i think its quite nice

[obtuse moth]

except 4 stacks on its own does basically nothing

[potent echo]

If it's 4 stacks to every enemy in the radius, then yea

It will be really really good

[solar sand]

4 stacks turning into like 40 would be crazy

[potent echo]

When an Enemy dies while affected by your Soulblaze, nearby Enemies each gain up to 4 stacks of Soulblaze. They cannot gain more stacks than the dying Enemy had.

Intended effect

[south spruce]

[solar sand]

damn 5m thats fairly big

[potent echo]

4 psykers easiest game

[solar sand]

2+ bubbles is just functional immortality

[potent echo]

4 creeping flames lmao

[south spruce]

We were practically unstoppable

[potent echo]

24 soulblaze stacks

[solar sand]

does creeping hit 6 at 80 or 90?

[potent echo]

83.33333

[south spruce]

Ascension

[potent echo]

Can you get there by jumping

[late yew]

this fov, oh god

why

[south spruce]

I love high FOV ;3

[potent echo]

Always play on max fov

Helps you aim trauma staff

[half iron]

sometimes our siblings have sight beyond normal comprehension

[south spruce]

I think jumping on some stuff and getting there would work

But our sibling has ascended

[fading iris]

I didn't saw at first but now I see why the voices of the warp are thinking about a new class for part II of the traitor curse

[half iron]

me. i am the new class. gunker is now a standalone.

[fading iris]

went to check back at the splash picture with the stuff and on the part 2 one of the squares is centered and if you squint enough, you could make the educated guess of someone with a red robe

[late yew]

Gunkers are menace to society

and should be purged

[half iron]

nuh uh!

loser.

[limber tartan]

On my way to play some AM with my gun build

With no ammo pickups

[half iron]

uhmmm. excuse me. it’s called gunker for a reason, not no ammoker. checkmate.

[honest robin]

Why play gunker when you can play the exact same build but only using your sword

[half iron]

i do it in spite of veterans.

[late yew]

you were offered powers of the warp, and you still take fuckn boring ass gun

[honest robin]

Ranged combat is dishonorable and cowardly

[late yew]

why

[honest robin]

Dueling swords are for duelists and im gonna duel all 600 of these zombies

[late yew]

DS not that good against hordes though

[honest robin]

I don't let that stop me

Maybe i even have a purgatus as my ranged weapon

You'll never see it

[tiny swallow]

speaking of DS does the weapon action do anything of note or is it just actually useless

[blazing echo]

Infinite block and massive dodge afaik

[tiny swallow]

what

[blazing echo]

You can block indefinitely and when you dodge you dodge very far compared to Psykers other weapons

[elfin geode]

weapon action

[tiny swallow]

yeah i mean the same thing youd like charge a power sword with

or turn on a gun flashlight

[tired knoll]

duelling sword special does a lot of stagger can knock ragers outta combo or crushers/maulers and can even stop a mutie charge with a headshot

[obtuse moth]

its a super fast stun that you can chain with heavies or lights and stops crushers and mutants and ragers and maulers etc

queue it right after a poke or slash

[spice veldt]

with regards to chains, there is a fast followup from the special -> h1 for the mk4; I forget if it's only the mk4 that has this

[elfin geode]

I'm new to DS but it does seem like I can cancel into special action from a regular swing faster than other attacks

[spice veldt]

heavies also have a fast followup into the special

[tiny swallow]

[spice veldt]

ao it's a pretty safe tool for stagger that you can rely on because of the neat timing attributes it has

you won't have to worry about not being able to special just because you're in the middle of an attack animation except for a very small interval

[tiny swallow]

can it stun trappers

[dim parrot]

can it teach me swedish

[tiny swallow]

can it pay my taxes

[dim parrot]

can it bring back dinosaurs

[spice veldt]

no

it presumably can stun trappers

not that I've tried, but trappers have less stagger resistance nowadays so I'd bet yes

[obtuse moth]

you'll probably eat a dinosaur tomorrow

[tiny swallow]

i keep trying to push trappers to which they reply "lmao, lol even" and then trap me

youd think after however many times ive done it id stop

but i have brainrot

[honest robin]

Trappers are more or less stagger immune for the back half of their firing animation afaict

[urban sandal]

not entirely stagger immune but it can seem that way

don't think I've ever been able to dodge a trapper when point blank either

[tiny swallow]

same

[fading iris]

Chaos powered nets

[dim parrot]

the trapper just stands there, unfazed

I just scream at them if I sense that I cant dodge the net

[limber tartan]

Damn people in auric are really damn bad, i just had 2 people leave me and annother dude to bleed out while literally being next to us simply because they didn't pick us up

[dim parrot]

sad times

[low carbon]

That's basically every difficulty that has those. I think some people just get tunnel vision when things get hairy.

[obtuse moth]

lots of newbies in auric

[low carbon]

It's especially fun when you're netted and they're running off while a single infested hits you until you go down.

[plucky flax]

The scary auric gaming.

[obtuse moth]

half the time the lobby is half people between 30+0 and 30+30

[low carbon]

I'm not sure I've run into anyone not 30 in an auric unless it was a premade and we were boosting someone.

Can you even join auric below 30?

[limber tartan]

I don't think soo

[obtuse moth]

you can, and maelstrom if you get dragged in

[grim halo]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PvZiv5V4GeI

[obtuse moth]

but when im talking 30+0 and 30+30, theyre level 30 but like fresh level 30

you can see total amount of exp a character has with mods

so how many times they would have leveled again after 30

[limber tartan]

I once saw a dude with over 1100

[low carbon]

Not sure that means much though, they may have a different character at way higher levels

[chilly coyote]

Warp expenditure vs Quietude which is better?

[low carbon]

The skills are pretty transferable

[plucky flax]

Across four characters I have over 1100.

My highest is just nearly 500 though.

[limber tartan]

Nice, i just came back like a month or soo ago, didn't play since december or january i think

So my highest is 30 + 110 currently

[obtuse moth]

quietude gives you 2x the toughness for the same amount of peril. expenditure gives you 25% for 100% peril

[plucky flax]

Gotta pump that up.

[tiny swallow]

my highest is +23 lmao

[chilly coyote]

one is more delayed though

the 2x

[obtuse moth]

i mean, thats only if you're running at 0 peril

[dim parrot]

imagine running at zero peril

[obtuse moth]

its just as delayed for expenditure if you're running at 100 peril

[dim parrot]

https://tenor.com/view/shadow-wizard-money-gang-gif-18178013888257763473

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/jfk-clone-high-i-like-your-funny-words-magic-man-jack-black-gif-18659433

[warped perch]

The shadow wizard money gang doesn’t exist

[dim parrot]

thats what the shadow government wants u to think

[pale pilot]

this is true of all three DS. like the knife their special has a followup into a heavy or something like a heavy

[slate cedar]

I've noticed my psyker's got about 100/100 toughness/health. Which should I proritise with my curious?

[plucky flax]

DS4 rager bully (timestamped)
https://youtu.be/uRCQy1tKWqE?t=1072

[bleak tulip]

[toxic blade]

isnt smite pointless when surge staff exists?

[kind jay]

theyre completely different

[severe folio]

YEAHH

[toxic blade]

i am trying to figure out what to use on auric and assail just seems straight up better than brain rupture or smite

[severe folio]

TRUE MACCABIAN SPIRIT

[severe folio]

it depend on what you plan to do, smite does do its job if you need something to cover many enemies at once

[toxic blade]

so basically trash horde clear, but this is almost never why runs fail in auric at least in my experience

[summer prairie]

smite is timestop

[kind jay]

smite is for pausing possible wipes such as rager/crusher packs

[severe folio]

its not just trash horde

its any kind of horde really

[toxic blade]

but it doesnt stop the most important enemies, e.g. when 4 crushers are coming towards you (or other carapace enemies) while surge staff just stuns them in place

[kind jay]

yes it does

[ornate hamlet]

I am seeing a lot of builds with that 5% damage against elites, isnt that aura on the same level of rubbish as the 5% damage to all from the vet?

[severe folio]

what are you talking about

[kind jay]

smite stuns any enemy that isnt a boss

[severe folio]

it stun everything except for monstrosity

[toxic blade]

what i literally just tested it in the psykhorium

it did not stun crushers

[severe folio]

its due to the need of using skill on that side of the tree

and people dont want to use seer presence

[summer prairie]

you are using rmb right

[severe folio]

(dont know why)

you have to charge your smite up

[obtuse moth]

it does take time to stun mutants

[ornate hamlet]

Isnt seers presence one of the better ones? everyone gets more ability usage which to me seems like an utter win

[toxic blade]

yes full rmb charge on smite

[severe folio]

i blame people being lazy and not checking

[obtuse moth]

are you channeling it?

or just letting go

[ornate hamlet]

My smite stuns crushers all the time, its so gooood

[glossy ember]

Checked malefic momentum at 0 and 5 stacks and i don't think it helps at all

bit weird

[toxic blade]

gonna try again now maybe it missed smth

[glossy ember]

i thought it would

[severe folio]

maybe its insignificant damage

[obtuse moth]

doesnt matter if its lmb or rmb, it requires channeling if you're trying to hold things still

[glossy ember]

but it literally didnt change my breakpoints with 0 warp charges 0 pt or 5 pt

[severe folio]

the lmb does take longer to stun things right ?

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah true, im just trying to find a good smite/bubble build, and saw someone talk about warpfire smite, but refuses to post a build on reddit, so just browsing gameslantern for builds, but all of em use the weakest aura lol

[obtuse moth]

takes longer to hit multiple targets

[severe folio]

warp fire smite

[severe folio]

oh i see

[glossy ember]

you'd think 20% would be big huh

i think it only helps uh

at 6 ws 5 pt

[severe folio]

it should be big

like

[glossy ember]

because then you can os dreg gunners guarenteed

[severe folio]

warp rider big

[glossy ember]

yeah

idk

maybe i'm testing it wrong

[ornate hamlet]

Something about using the perilous combustion and venting shriek with creeping flames, to make smite into a horde killer instead of CC

[glossy ember]

or maybe it's another broken talent??

lemme ask the psyker guru

[toxic blade]

alright it does stun if you are channeling it but does like 0 dmg

[glossy ember]

@near wyvern did malefic momentum work for you?

[toxic blade]

and you are ofc channeling it and cant do anything else

[glossy ember]

is it an actual damage increase?

it looks like it is

[bleak tulip]

smite does almost no damage thats correct

thats why you run creeping flames with it

[severe folio]

okay something is wrong with my game

[bleak tulip]

to shout at them

[severe folio]

the flame patch from bombers and flamers are not appearing fast enough

anyone know why

has anyone seen this

[bleak tulip]

"fast enough"?

[toxic blade]

soulblaze does not do much to carapace?

[obtuse moth]

it does if you have rending

[bleak tulip]

yeah it doesnt

[toxic blade]

and even if it did you have to invest so much, and if you take surge staff you can kill crusher in 4s and maybe 3s if you are fully buffed

[bleak tulip]

you need something else for crushers

[ornate hamlet]

That is fair, unless you want to be more supportive and take a Telekine shield no?

[severe folio]

ill show you

[toxic blade]

assail + surge staff (+ telekine shield) seems superior to everything, what do you think?

[bleak tulip]

yeah but then youre literally not doing any damage while smiting and you only get a relatively short duration on it unless youre running EP I think but I wouldnt recommend that with smite

or battle med, which depends on you actually killing shit too

[severe folio]

check this out

[obtuse moth]

its one way to play. definitely not superior in many cases. one being dps and horde clear

[bleak tulip]

wacky

[ornate hamlet]

I run warp charges to build less peril

[toxic blade]

thats why i am wondering how people use smite

[bleak tulip]

looks like the particle effect for the little fire wave is missing

[severe folio]

yeah

think my mod did something

[ornate hamlet]

Im trying it out rn with creeping flames on malice, and oh gosh why is creeping flames so weak, is it damage based on hp% or what?

[bleak tulip]

did you fuck with some zealot grenade mod or something

[toxic blade]

take smite, replace surge staff to void or something?

[bleak tulip]

maybe one of those broke

[magic hull]

your mod did, no base game is like that.

does that happen in base game as well

[obtuse moth]

if you are running all warp resist talents you get 50%+ warp resistance (6*6+5+5+5)

[bleak tulip]

thats what I do yeah

void or ds for crushers

[severe folio]

yeah it happen in base game, very difficult

[bleak tulip]

only really stun shit when its a big mixed horde and my team was asleep at the wheel again

[severe folio]

but which mod, i turned off custom flame, the only thing i can think of is that

[magic hull]

try restarting your mod files again

[obtuse moth]

creeping flames is really strong, you need to be 84%+ peril to give six stacks of burning, burning damage basically doubles per stack at the beginning

[bleak tulip]

it smoothes over the amount of clutching you gotta do with pubs

if your team is a beast you dont need smite at all and I would recommend void assail for more versatility

[severe folio]

restarting mod files ?

[bleak tulip]

but I usually play with randos

[obtuse moth]

smite is so safe it takes the spicy out of missions

[ornate hamlet]

I do use it at like 98% basically to try and get the max out of it, it still seems way weaker than a single voidstrike shot could do, and thats with a subpar staff

[toxic blade]

when i tried soulblaze build it seemed very weak 😔 just does not bring any value to the team

[magic hull]

theres a file in the folder that you must activate every update i forgot what its called but im sure you know that one

[severe folio]

ah that one

okay then

[bleak tulip]

it basically counters those funny rager hordes that spawn since they took the restrictors out of the director again

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah... so many ragers

[toxic blade]

even to get creeping flames you need to drop telekine shield which is a massive loss and already not worth it

[severe folio]

everytime fatshark tweak the director its like a lil bit of malice is dropped onto the AI

[obtuse moth]

@toxic blade its for clearing an entire horde at once, like 30-100 enemies. if you use a staff to apply burning make sure you hit that burn cap first. if you combo it with perilous combustion, you can kill 10+ elites with just burning. on low difficulties damage doesnt matter because everything dies anyway. both the talents have no cap for soulblaze stacks but your weapons will refuse to apply more to an enemy over a certain #, so the order does matter

[magic hull]

this my fav purg build when the patch came out. Havent touched darktide because im currently away.

[bleak tulip]

the idea is that you dont have to stop doing what youre doing and you get free damage, or you just do a 180 and shout at the other side nobody is looking at and now only the elites are left you can deal with in a bit etc etc

or shouting at a downed teammate from 20m away

[severe folio]

seem like basic purg build

classical

[bleak tulip]

or shouting dogs off people through walls

etc

[magic hull]

yeah basically relying purely on purge only

[ornate hamlet]

hol up, through walls??

[magic hull]

otherwise i have the other one for assail with is nice as well

[severe folio]

can be update a bit to new game

[toxic blade]

how do you use brain rupture it just seems... bad? 😄

[severe folio]

but otherwise very faithful to old psyker

[severe folio]

its the old psykers

[obtuse moth]

or you use it to get 21+ stacks of burning on something

[bleak tulip]

I dont really run purg

[obtuse moth]

mostly by precharging it with right click, its much stronger if you take the speed talent + empowered psionics. otherwise its relegated to hitting dogs running away, snipers the size of an ant, or bosses

[bleak tulip]

yeah shout usually works through walls

dunno how "permeable" a wall has to be for that but it usually works

[blazing echo]

The problem w precharging is when the chaff mob gets the focus instead of the elite or Ogryn lol

[obtuse moth]

it doesnt care about walls at all.

[bleak tulip]

thats certainly how it generally works

[magic hull]

its not because of BB :)) its mainly because of this. I need to run BB tree to have this perk

[blazing echo]

It a good snipe skill, you only have to lock on w lmb then you can hide from return fire n just kill

[obtuse moth]

it does bug out with different elevations sometimes

[severe folio]

god my eyes is bleaching from white screen

[toxic blade]

which why surge staff is superior, when i tried comparing the 2 the staff is just better, like i can kill the crusher at the same speed + i stun him and stun many other enemies around

[obtuse moth]

but you can aim it straight up or down too etc through floors and ceilings

[severe folio]

oh no, thats a horrible skill

[hollow jolt]

It only fails when it would save a teammate UwU

[blazing echo]

Also damn good against bosses, can normally peril out using it on em, shriek the boss is normally dead before I top out again

[hollow jolt]

Zealot pounced by dog behind wall? Shriek no longer goes through walls UwU

[obtuse moth]

that just means BR has poor synergy with your build or staff, not that its bad

[magic hull]

i disagree, i do well with that perk.

it get exponentially deadly for hordes

[hollow jolt]

Doesn't work with my build? Shit talent

[severe folio]

you have no idea what it actually does do you

[bleak tulip]

thats more due to your skill not the talent

[toxic blade]

surge staff seems like brain rupture + smite combined, and then you can just take assail and dont need to invest in anything else and have free points to do whatever

[bleak tulip]

its not useless but its very weak imo

[severe folio]

no its useless

its useless and weak

[obtuse moth]

surge staff hits 2 targets. smite can hit hundreds. come back when you play at the highest difficulty

[bleak tulip]

I mean it does add 4 stacks to things sometimes

[magic hull]

🤔

[bleak tulip]

thats better than literally nothing

[severe folio]

those 4 stacks are worht as much as nothing

[bleak tulip]

but yeah take psykinetics

its just better

[toxic blade]

i am playing right now, that is why i am wondering how to use smite, because surge + assail seems superior to everything

[severe folio]

ill explain, but first tell what you know about Wildfire

[magic hull]

psykinetics wrath with soulblaze thingy is very nice too

[magic hull]

sure spit it out and change my mind

[hollow jolt]

Meta pick 😎

UwU

[bleak tulip]

that a positive side effect of running surge too for me, I can take psykinetics

[severe folio]

Explain to me what you know about Wildfire first

[hollow jolt]

God I love Psykinetic Aura

[magic hull]

im not here to be intellectual. Im here to listen to advice.

[obtuse moth]

https://youtu.be/yrOmLUfNMw4
#psyker-class message <-- the build

[hollow jolt]

I need to spam my ult 24/7

[bleak tulip]

wildfire doesnt add stacks past 4 period

[obtuse moth]

watch the killfeed

[bleak tulip]

it only adds up to 4

[severe folio]

Well I was hoping that you have a bit of hint on what it does first before i elaborate

[bleak tulip]

literally doesnt do anything for targets with more than 4 stacks

[magic hull]

4 stacks as in per target right?

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[severe folio]

No

[obtuse moth]

you can also just play with with empowered psionics as an infinite pause button (since you wont gain peril and can cast it forever if you take that keystone)

[severe folio]

Its not 4 stacks per target

[vivid merlin]

that hasn't been true for weeks

[bleak tulip]

which only ever really happens when you leave shit alone for shit to die

[severe folio]

its up to 4 stacks

and how many target ? up to 4

it's this way, if the enemy have 4 stacks and 4 enemies around him, each enemies reach 1 stack

[toxic blade]

alright i will give it a shot again, so then instead of surge staff with smite would you take void?

[bleak tulip]

okay I dont know what you mean now, each target near a target that dies gets up to 4 stacks total

to clarify

no more

[severe folio]

Nope

[bleak tulip]

it doesnt stack with itself

[severe folio]

Nope

Look

up to 4 enemies receive One Stack

it can only spread a total of 4 soulblazes

[obtuse moth]

anything can work with smite tbh. (although its very annoying if you use purgatus since you have no range) just depends on how you want to play. voidstrike is very strong and easy to use atm. best with Surge and Warp Nexus blessings

[bleak tulip]

lol

alright thats even worse then

either way dont use it

[severe folio]

if there are 2 enemies around that enemy, then each enemies receive 2

if there are 1 enemy, that enemy receive 4

[bleak tulip]

even just the 4 stack limit is bad enough

[severe folio]

and heres worse

check this out

if an enemy already have 4 stacks or more

[bleak tulip]

ive seen a video recently of someone getting 4 likely because multiple targets died

[magic hull]

it literally said enemy EACH gain up to 4 stacks of soulblaze

[toxic blade]

ok i will give it a go

[bleak tulip]

already mentioned that :x

[severe folio]

yeah thats what it said, its not what it actually does unfortunately

[magic hull]

bro wtf 😂

[obtuse moth]

its good for warp siphon stacks with In Fire Reborn, or if you're running blazing trauma or blazing void

[magic hull]

how can i take you seriously man

[severe folio]

yeah but did you mention, those 4 wildfire stacks it spread around to enemies that cannot receive it, just disappear

[magic hull]

I mean

[bleak tulip]

idk man it really kinda isnt

[magic hull]

the game said so

so you are saying the devs fooled us

[bleak tulip]

the tooltips lie or are incomplete all the time

[severe folio]

the dev isnt fooling us

the dev is just bad at coding

and bad at description

[obtuse moth]

it is, the cap for both blazing trauma and blazing void is 6 stacks, and the application is rng, so wildfire can basically double the rate of your burning application to cap

[bleak tulip]

ideally it would just add 4 stacks on top but it doesnt

[severe folio]

This is what people tested and the result is that

that is what wildfire actually do

And here is an even worse new

[magic hull]

Dude from what i understand this is what it means:
Each can gain up to 4 stacks of soulblaze.
All nearby gets affected but only up to 4 stacks just like the one that has been killed.

[bleak tulip]

I dont run blaze void, its a meme and trauma stacks higher and I aint waiting for shit to die to maybe get 4 stacks

[severe folio]

with a purgatus staff, even lesser than half a charge you add 5-6 soulblaze onto enemies

and when those enemies die, 4 of their soulblazes stack goes no where

[magic hull]

you cant just spit shit out, give me footage man. Honestly.

[severe folio]

enemies around them do not receive 9-10 stacks

[bleak tulip]

and for purg its giga useless because you get 4 stacks on everything in your cone in like 15% charge

aka like half a second

[severe folio]

#psyker-class message
we have a codex that document these thing

[obtuse moth]

trauma caps at 6 lol, if you have higher its from talents or someone else

[severe folio]

this is written by our literally one of most estemed psyker

[magic hull]

look for it i dont have time, you brought it up you know where better than me.

[severe folio]

they have an entry on wildfire for you

[bleak tulip]

would be news to me but I am not a blaze trauma expert, I just thought I'd seen higher

[obtuse moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs this also uses wildfire by @plucky flax

[ornate hamlet]

So wildfire for enemies with 6 stacks dont spread it?

[near wyvern]

Wildfire is bugged to hell but on some builds it still brings a lot of value, mainly as a fire starter so you don't have to start stacking always from zero again

[bleak tulip]

they should spread up to 4

?

[magic hull]

that literally is what i just said 💀

[severe folio]

It spread 4 stacks to 4 enemies around it, each enemy get 1 stack

[magic hull]

no EACH get 4

[near wyvern]

They do spread but only 4 stacks even if the target has 20

[severe folio]

No youre thinking each get 4, Thats not what happening

[ornate hamlet]

Yeah but if you have 6 stacks on enemies from creeping fire, and one of them dies... nothing happens?

[magic hull]

if the guy does with 3 stacks. ALL around them get 3

[severe folio]

Yep

[potent echo]

idk if anything other than the corpse spreading thing is bugged

sounds intended maybe

[severe folio]

none of the enemies follow after get up to 10 stacks

4 stacks vanishes

[ornate hamlet]

Okay, yeah im gonna stick to bubble/smite then

[severe folio]

if enemy have 4 stacks or higher, they receive the wildfire, but doesnt increase their stacks

[bleak tulip]

yeah but he's got wacky builds all the time

[potent echo]

patch news when

[near wyvern]

If it is intended then they should make the description clearly match it. Also, no stacks are spread if there is only 1 on the target which makes the flames vanish rather quickly

[obtuse moth]

wildfire has been standard for blazing trauma since before the class update

[severe folio]

do you not understand what that mean, that means if there are 1 enemy next to the 4 soulblaze, that enemy get 4
if there are 2 enemy, 2 enemies each get 2
if there are 4 enemies, each get 1
if there are more, only 4 enemies are affected

[magic hull]

its right fucking there

[severe folio]

Yeah the hard cap is on the soulblazed enemy, not the enemies getting wildfired

so only 4 soulblazes stack is coming out is what the codex is saying

[magic hull]

im actually having a headache with this game bro.

[severe folio]

Look, just know its a redudancy to take wildfire with purgatus

[obtuse moth]

the per dying target is the source of the wildfire, not what its spreading to

[severe folio]

with purgatus you are already spreading 6-7, 8-10 soulblazes every burning seconds

[obtuse moth]

that might be the confusing language

[bleak tulip]

look man I just listen to the giga nerds on shit I dont run myself much, and I never did like trauma enough to do deep research, and the nerds said it was bad in 13
its the same with fire reborn and vampire on what is better

the description for it sucks and is incredibly misleading either way

[obtuse moth]

wildfire has always had the same limitations and its always been good for certain builds and bad in general

[severe folio]

Well, for builds that doesnt have a lot of sources of fire

wildfire is one way where you can preserve up to 4 soulblazes to transfer around dying enemies

[bleak tulip]

yeah and I remember even back then I basically never ran it

[severe folio]

because unlike purgatus 6-10 soulblaze every seconds, fire trauma and other means are limited

[fading iris]

** ++ You can always use more fire to purge the heretic ++**

[bleak tulip]

because it was generally quite shit

[plucky flax]

This is wrong but okie. Only the realeast meta.

[obtuse moth]

someone needs to make a master explaininer on this that we can pin lol

[magic hull]

this is honestly the best response out of all the confusing shit.

[bleak tulip]

I mean pygex does his best

[severe folio]

But yeah, wildfire is not multiplying your soulblaze, its only preserving up to 4 soulblazes to transfer around and potentially lost

[sonic coral]

That just means you've reached endgame

[severe folio]

and those 4 soulblazes arent even possibly going to the thing you wanted

[obtuse moth]

yea, talking just one discord reference message tho

[severe folio]

if you want More flame, wildfire isnt the answer

[near gale]

Question: How's this for a voidstrike staff?

[fading iris]

[severe folio]

damage seem a bit eh

[bleak tulip]

I mean I do really want a bot we can give commands to answer the most common questions like "what is warp damage"

[obtuse moth]

the other two soulblaze talents are cracked,they dont care about application cap unless you manage to hit that 50+ ceilinglol

[magic hull]

ok next question: give me your recommended build. Ill bave a look when im coming back in december and try it out.

[near gale]

This is my current other one

[bleak tulip]

perks are kinda bad, sustained isnt great but I think it works, flurry is good
this is never gonna be "meta" but you can probably work with it

[obtuse moth]

replace the crit damage and sustained fire, for flak or crit and transfer peril or nexus

[bleak tulip]

iirc sustanied works on 50%+ charge

[fading iris]

Trust me, in the grimdark of responding the same questions over and over again, there is only war

[obtuse moth]

hey at least its not #general-chat

[bleak tulip]

I dont go there

just pretending it doesnt exist

[obtuse moth]

man i had someone be so toxic when i explained that you don't get slammed by mutants near the edge of terrain

[severe folio]

you can have my purgatus build

[plucky flax]

33 charge rate for 42 warp resist

[obtuse moth]

same, permamuted for me

[fading iris]

plus it's simple: Are you having fun with your build? It is killing stuff? Are you not dying in the most stupid ways? ++ You will be fine ++

[near gale]

I mean with transfer peril the 42% warp resist shouldn't be too bad, if I threw it on that staff

[bleak tulip]

no soulstealer

[obtuse moth]

imo having fun with builds requires dying in the most stupid ways

[plucky flax]

Purg crit a lot mettle should be enough to regen toughness.

[magic hull]

alright thanks man, sorry if i sounded like a dick.

[bleak tulip]

also warp expenditure pretty bad tbh

sure its just

[severe folio]

if you are daring enough you can try this cracked up version

[bleak tulip]

why have so much regen

[fading iris]

But are you dying because of the build or because of skill issue?

[magic hull]

you mean the suicide build

[plucky flax]

Oh yeah with transfer peril you'd be fine. But no surge?

It's big damage.

[bleak tulip]

I just assume everyone not using surge doesnt have it

[severe folio]

yes heres the performance

[fading iris]

Best psyker build is the no talent build ++ I don't need talents, I have the God Emperor protecting me ++

[obtuse moth]

im dying because builds that trivialise content are boring so i like to find builds that just barely let me complete missions

also variety is the spice of life

[magic hull]

pretty cracked, whats your purge staff stat

[severe folio]

i have it in the first build i sent

[magic hull]

is that on highest difficulties

[glossy ember]

chad and based

[fading iris]

Auric damnation no weapons and no blitz allowed

[severe folio]

yes this is on highest difficulty

not auric ofc because psykanium cant test auric

but its damnation

everything must be test on damnation

[plucky flax]

Auric is the same as damnation anyway.

[bleak tulip]

^

[obtuse moth]

besides the greenies

[bleak tulip]

its just damnation

[bleak tulip]

well thats maelstrom 🤓

akshually

[obtuse moth]

does regular maelstrom have it?

[bleak tulip]

uhh dont think so? no idea

dont run normal mael

honestly couldnt say

[fading iris]

Unarmed update when, I want to be able to just slap and/or punch stuff

[bleak tulip]

staff melee only build

[severe folio]

if you want to see how it does without the scrier

[bleak tulip]

okay but make that a mauler pile now not enemies with like 350 hp

[severe folio]

i advise not

because

perilious combustion

haha

[magic hull]

hows this one then, potential?

[severe folio]

wouldnt be accurate

[severe folio]

yes this look servicable

the maniac damage would been great though

[fading iris]

Now let's see Paul Allen's damage meters

[severe folio]

but this is servicable

[magic hull]

🙈

[bleak tulip]

prob better than my purg from literally last year

[severe folio]

The main stat you want is cloud radius, burn, then warp resistance, quell speed, damage is last

[magic hull]

felt cute might purge later

[bleak tulip]

76 burn specifically

[severe folio]

yep, damage is last, because you are killing with soulblaze proc

76 burn and upward is when you can get the max cap of soulblaze on purgatus

and yes purgatus have a soulblaze cap unfortunately

[bleak tulip]

15/16

[severe folio]

it is 15-16 cap

[bleak tulip]

would still run it with shout tho

[severe folio]

run it with shout is one of the way to make it breaching cap

[bleak tulip]

scriers only really gets you to cap a lot faster

[severe folio]

if you purg an enemy to 15-16, then shout at 80, you will put their blaze cap to 21

[bleak tulip]

and then does like what, 40 more damage per tick until several seconds in

[severe folio]

the scrier get cap faster but the main thing about it isnt the cap, its the torrent of flame that is constantly critting

also its guranteed 16 cap

[bleak tulip]

as I said, mostly gets you to cap faster, the direct damage isnt really that crazy

[severe folio]

the crit just make sure things die from the raw flame much quicker

its not crazy but the scrier makes that damage servicable

[bleak tulip]

itsl ike 68 ish damage vs the normal what 40?

[severe folio]

i think so

i mean, the clip is there

[bleak tulip]

yeah I cant fuckin see the early direct damage numbers well

[obtuse moth]

if its up to date

scriers boosts the burn tick damage too rite?

[bleak tulip]

*24% *whatever peril you at for warp rider

how would it do that

[severe folio]

its like 64 damage every 0.34 second

i guess

[bleak tulip]

isnt that set to the normal game tick rate

[vagrant cedar]

i think tickrate is not fixed

[obtuse moth]

scriers boosts damage by 10% + 1% per stack

[bleak tulip]

yeah but how would that speed the tick rate was my question

[obtuse moth]

oh i was talking about tick damage not rate

[bleak tulip]

rip

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[bleak tulip]

good luck getting more than like 5 stacks while using a staff tho

[severe folio]

it doesnt speed up the tick rate

purg just have a really high fire rate

also someone told me when you reach 100 peril, when scrier end, it automatically push you up to 30% increase damage for 10 seconds lol

regardless of how many scrier stack you build up during ?

idk if this is true

[crimson zealot]

Is this purg staff servicable?

[severe folio]

check the burn stat for me

what number does it say

[crimson zealot]

Im using the 80% stat mod btw

[severe folio]

that purg has 1 soulblaze lesser than most other purg

[crimson zealot]

ouf

[severe folio]

would say its not a big loss ? but you would not be doing yourself a favor

[crimson zealot]

76 is the magic number i guess

[severe folio]

recommend a better one

[crimson zealot]

I have another one but aint too pretty as well. Burn is at 79% tho

[severe folio]

ironically that one has a serviceable stat

[crimson zealot]

loll XD

is dmg the dump stat for Purg? (Say yes)

[severe folio]

yes

it is

for me personally i like everything top notch but regularly it is the dump stat

for me the dump stat is warp resistance

because very low warp resist get it to critical peril fast

[crimson zealot]

welp, hadron bricked it

thanks hadron, love ya

[severe folio]

think have to upgrade once more to know

[bleak tulip]

idk what purgs clamp value is but the base damage is so shit that its one of the few weapons where you can dump damage tho I feel like you might as well distribute dump over damage as well as the susual suspects WR and quell

[static needle]

Best blessings for the laspistol as psyker?

[crimson zealot]

took your advice n yeah... its bricked 😦

[bleak tulip]

same as normal, dumdum infernus aiui

[static needle]

"aiui"?

[bleak tulip]

as i understand it

[severe folio]

yeah thats gone

[static needle]

wait tho soulblaze is the most dmg output, right? why not just switch the blessings and leave the rest as is?

[severe folio]

sorry friend

[severe folio]

because stamina perk

no flak damage

[bleak tulip]

soulblaze still gets the damage from the perks

[crimson zealot]

Its ok, not the first time hadron screwed me over

[static needle]

bruv it cant be that important? dang

[severe folio]

oh it is

[static needle]

hmm

[severe folio]

melting flak armors is

very crucial

[bleak tulip]

youre missing 25% damage against the most common center mass armor type

[crimson zealot]

a lot of specials and pleb enemies wear flak

[severe folio]

its just those 2 enemies range that is really common for a weapon that cant weakspots

gunners, bombers, flamers

renegade melee

maulers

scab ragers

its also those enemies that you really want to burn down

[crimson zealot]

Forgot to ask, why does one want to reach critical peril quickly?

pretty new to psyker sry

[bleak tulip]

nexus

[static needle]

Which of these has better stats? ive heard dmg is a dump stat? i wonder just how much u can dump it without a noticable differance

[severe folio]

warp nexus, crit chance on purgatus

[crimson zealot]

ahh ok thanks

[potent echo]

also creeping flames venting

[bleak tulip]

I'd run the second but I am not a purg gamer

[severe folio]

the blue one

[bleak tulip]

I get allergic reactions to seeing sub 50 damage

[static needle]

really? is damage that reduntant?

[severe folio]

yeah

[potent echo]

it really is

[static needle]

doesnt matter on purge tho apparently

[severe folio]

it doesnt affect how fast or how hard your soulblaze burn

[bleak tulip]

press V and look at the clamp value its probably very minor considering its like 2 damage on primary

[severe folio]

soulblaze burning is its own damage

[static needle]

lol we found the purge gamer. comedic timing hehe

[eager mantle]

Look at the dmg between the 2, +20% discrepancy and you lose 2 dmg

[static needle]

yes but it doesnt matter?

[potent echo]

ofc not lmao

[severe folio]

the blue one have a chance to be bricked though

[static needle]

ye im not gonna invest i think

[severe folio]

you should invest

[static needle]

plasteel is too easy to loose 😛

[bleak tulip]

honestly the difference is probably so minor

[severe folio]

at least up ro purple

[static needle]

exactly

[bleak tulip]

10% WR and like 6 cloud is uhh

not a lot

[eager mantle]

I mean your orange is fine, but the blue isn't bad to level and see what happens

[severe folio]

the orange has a smaller flame radius

[static needle]

ill do that waaay later then cause im happy with the one i got

[static needle]

baaarely

[potent echo]

4% cloud doesnt really matter lol

[static needle]

lmao right

[bleak tulip]

shame cloud doesnt give you a number in meters

[severe folio]

i suppose so

[potent echo]

it does though?

[bleak tulip]

does it?

am I misremembering

[potent echo]

under inspec

like 15m~

[bleak tulip]

that would be great because very often its just some %

[severe folio]

but the blue one might get maniac

[potent echo]

depends if you really want maniac, crit is fine

i prefer maniac though

[severe folio]

maniac does make it feels good

[stuck finch]

MY Dream. MY Shield. MY Rules.

[potent echo]

you can actually kill flamers

[severe folio]

crushing flamers and trappers in a horde

and ragers too

[potent echo]

and trappers yea

[severe folio]

finish them off

pretty much top 3 tiring enemies

[bleak tulip]

youll save like a tick I expect

so uhh

up to you?

[severe folio]

a tick ?

[bleak tulip]

of SB

[severe folio]

oh you mean save 1 less flame tick

well

[bleak tulip]

yeah

[severe folio]

i wouldnt count it on tick

id say you will save

2-3 seconds

[potent echo]

not really 1 tick lol

[bleak tulip]

highly doubt its that much

[severe folio]

do you see my name

[bleak tulip]

it says apprentice

[severe folio]

im literally invested in purgatus more than anything in the game

i sleep purgatus and i dream purgatus and when i wake up i wake purgatus

[frigid zenith]

There's too many people playing soulblaze type builds right now, direct damage voidstrike ftw.

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message
fellow purg main also maniac purg gang

[bleak tulip]

meanwhile I run creeping flames too

every build is a SB build

[potent echo]

maniac purg rise up

[thick jacinth]

whyyy

[severe folio]

but yeah you will save substantial time

[frigid zenith]

Normally my warpfire damage and direct damage on trauma blaze is 50%/50%, been getting gimped due to all the other dots.

Moved to direct damage builds on psyker and zealot. Now outdamageing everyone by a mile.

[bleak tulip]

I mean Im not saying manaic is worse than crit, I am wondering it it makes enough of a difference to dump another 10k plasteel into gamba for a slightly better purg

[severe folio]

it does

[bleak tulip]

idk I dont thnk I ever got more than 66/33 out of blaze trauma ratio

[frigid zenith]

Too much DoT means shit ain't dieing fast enough, need a good general mix.

[bleak tulip]

at least not since 13

[frigid zenith]

I can tell what my ratio is gonna be by the start of the game just by the weapons people have.

[eager mantle]

Do it. Always gamba. Get to zero plasteel. Feel the need to run the lights out, specialist/monstrosity waves with nurgle blessing

[severe folio]

well its hard for things to die when things keep flying around from trauma blasts

[obtuse moth]

trauma is a mix lol

[frigid zenith]

That too, that is a downside to trauma.

[potent echo]

just fly around lmao once the elites start flying the aint standing back up anyway

just shoot something else

[severe folio]

its prob how trauma been getting top damage

player controlled modifier

[frigid zenith]

It sure is, which is why it's really good. But when you have 4 people doing DoT centric builds shit just doesn't die fast enough.

[severe folio]

enemies fly around till they die

[hollow jolt]

My friend is also exclusively a purg user

He hit lvl 15 on launch week

[zinc phoenix]

That’s why you use trauma to burn em while they fly

[hollow jolt]

Got purg

[frigid zenith]

For sure that is apart of it.

[hollow jolt]

Never switched back, he's lvl 397 atm

[potent echo]

purg life

the only staff to never have been touched since launch*

[severe folio]

yeah well, your allies is not hitting the enemies, hence you seldom the damage from the enemies you ragdoll around

[obtuse moth]

don't tell me you're not burning them with purg while theyre flying

[frigid zenith]

When the game first came out I was in the run and gun purge camp after I discovered that, shit was OP.

[hollow jolt]

It got some slight buffs but yeah its like the MK12 where they just got it right

[severe folio]

well the fire trauma steal the soulblaze generated by purg

if theres a purg in the same lobby

[obtuse moth]

isnt it just first application is owner?

[zinc phoenix]

Oh you mean my meatshields? That’s fine

[potent echo]

depends on who applied the blaze first

[frigid zenith]

I'm not entirely sure how the DoTs work or who gets credit for what damage, it's weird.

[zinc phoenix]

Who are we kidding, trauma applied it first

[hollow jolt]

Indeed, its funny. Basically he's like "the other staffs are shit why would I use any other staff"

[potent echo]

the one that applied first gets all the credit

[frigid zenith]

Right? run and gun and barrage, spame left click and while running at full speed CCing literally everything.

[hollow jolt]

He does have a min max'd void and trauma -> used it in psychar -> "wow this is shit" -> switched back to purg

That's the further he's been to using anything other than purg

[zinc phoenix]

Trauma takes some time to pick up

[severe folio]

transfer peril voidstrike can be a recipe to some good time

[zinc phoenix]

The way of the little circle is long and hard

[frigid zenith]

My trauma blaze build has the potential to do the most damage. Pure voidstrike is more consistant though.

[obtuse moth]

i still need to try a flurry voidstrike with true aim

[zinc phoenix]

I dislike that void doesn’t toss enemies into the air in comic fashion

[frigid zenith]

That's exactly what I use, transfer peril and surge.

[obtuse moth]

???

[hollow jolt]

The problem for him is that it does none of the damage of purg staff while not being better than force sword pushing

So he never used trauma again

Can't blame him I personally don't think trauma is that good either

[severe folio]

why the dog

[magic hull]

thats my reaction while im on the phone calling

[frigid zenith]

I haven't tested it peronsally yet but I think it's a trap. I don't think it's going to get more damage than a transfer peril voidstrike.

[zinc phoenix]

That’s a strange take tbh

[hollow jolt]

See scier's gaze purgs

[late yew]

I say gun psykers is so much less optimal

[severe folio]

flurry transfer peril

[late yew]

both of other psykers were gunkers

[hollow jolt]

Dps without losing the CC

[bleak tulip]

they can only see movement

[near wyvern]

Which guns were they running?

[obtuse moth]

not going for meta, just going for variety. as long as its viable i'll use it once in a while

[bleak tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-move-cant-see-us-do-not-move-no-moving-dinosaur-gif-12893753

[magic hull]

clearly he's giving me a hug

[frigid zenith]

Once you get the hang of trauma, I don't think anything really touches it's utility/damage levels.

[frigid zenith]

For sure man, fuck all the meta shit.

[obtuse moth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sj-V9yVPFs

[severe folio]

blaze trauma isnt meta

[frigid zenith]

Not even close.

[obtuse moth]

we were talking about different voidstrike blessings

[frigid zenith]

I have seen less than 5 trauma blaze builds in the wild.

[severe folio]

i know

[near wyvern]

Yes pls buff 👀

[severe folio]

im just saying blaze trauma isnt meta

which is odd

[frigid zenith]

Right.

[bleak tulip]

yeah blaze trauma very weak pls buff

[severe folio]

compare to how much exposure it has

[bleak tulip]

give tier 4 blaze

[obtuse moth]

aiming is annoying, requires specific talents and specific rolls

[frigid zenith]

I have seen way more purge builds after the last patch.

Like, a lot.

[vestal fulcrum]

Have I just joined a congregation of siblings that prayge for Blaze trauma buffs?

[severe folio]

age of fire

[vestal fulcrum]

[near wyvern]

Well purge is usable again cause it staggers scab ragers again

[obtuse moth]

also a lot of people purposely shit on trauma just so people won't play it because of the cc

[frigid zenith]

ohhh?

[severe folio]

i would rather people talk less about trauma

its very tedious to see all the enemies flying around

[hollow jolt]

Purg also covers the dopamine hit of flamethrower

[obtuse moth]

that and it being the starter staff, and the most terrible staff to use as a starting weapon

[hollow jolt]

We need more flamethrowers

[frigid zenith]

I could see that, nothing worse than getting a nice lined up shot on 6 shotgunners with your plasma to have a psyker toss them all in the gutter.

[toxic blade]

what is L1H2?

[hollow jolt]

Yeah trauma is pain to work for ogryns

[obtuse moth]

light one, heavy two combo

[late yew]

Not sure, i think IAFs

[hollow jolt]

Too much chip damage from psykers throwing people around

[severe folio]

light attack and then heavy

[near wyvern]

Still if they don't have the blessings correctly it's gonna suck

[frigid zenith]

Fuck Ogryns, I do more dps to ogryns strafing in front of my shit than heretics.

[near wyvern]

And you gotta assail weave

[severe folio]

so the number 1 light attack chain with the second heavy

[hollow jolt]

L-l-lewd~!

[wind halo]

Now that my beloved...is perfection

[frigid zenith]

That will fuck some shit up.

[obtuse moth]

why are the colors on the screenshot funny

[bleak tulip]

why are your colors bass boosted

[near wyvern]

Far from perfect but it is very usable

[wind halo]

Auto HDR screenshots is fked

[severe folio]

its missing uncanny

[obtuse moth]

oh, i hate that stuff

[frigid zenith]

Fuck uncanny.

[zinc phoenix]

I ran into a fellow circle user but he wasn’t running blazin and I was sad

[severe folio]

you know you want uncanny

[hollow jolt]

The Warp changes people sibling UwU

[wind halo]

I dont

[frigid zenith]

I ran into a duo with run running blaz and the other running rending, I was excited. They fucking sucked ass though and kept dieing somehow.

[severe folio]

dont lie to yourself

[severe folio]

probably because nothing actually dying due to ragdoll cc

[frigid zenith]

gunpsyker is a meme, especially @near wyvern's gunpsykers.

❤️

[near wyvern]

I encountetred a veteran today who said I was shit. Then they continued to get downed and after the finally died they rage quit.

[frigid zenith]

lol

the shame quit.

[severe folio]

i would take that meme over the blaze trauma meme

[frigid zenith]

When I'm on my zealot and I run into a decent gunpsyker, I just zoom around and try to ping all the ammo for them. Easy fucking win if you do.

[severe folio]

very helpful

[near wyvern]

I do that on my Gunker for all the other players. I am like an ammo dog.

[frigid zenith]

Excuse me sir, space wizards with guns is the meme here. Space wizards with magic exploding circle staff is normal. Not a meme.

❤️

[severe folio]

the exploding staff is a meme

and i prefer the gun

[near wyvern]

Psyker is a meme buff pls

[echo frigate]

I got the T4 rending blessing on the tramua yesterday

[frigid zenith]

I guess you're the meme.

[echo frigate]

Voidstrike? Voidstrike goes hard wat

[frigid zenith]

Throw that shit in the trash.

[severe folio]

trauma

[hollow jolt]

To be fair, exploding also means trauma

[near wyvern]

Voidstrike ain't seen any explosions mate

[plucky flax]

Tru it's so bad. Pls buff it.

[severe folio]

if theres a buff for it

it would be a buff to how it ragdoll enemies

[near wyvern]

Voidstrike let's out a little fart, that's all

[hollow jolt]

Combi-staff trauma with a plasmagun duct taped to it

[frigid zenith]

Gunlugger ogryn with kickback is the real hero.

[echo frigate]

It's good wtf? I stripped it off of a purple staff I bought from milk

[near wyvern]

Dear god those can pull off DPS

[severe folio]

its a good support blessing

[bleak tulip]

yeah its really weak pls buff

[echo frigate]

I mean yeah but it also makes your dps go to the moon

[bleak tulip]

give me my damage back

[echo frigate]

This

[severe folio]

you know the rending dont buff the damage of your trauma right

[near wyvern]

It does

[frigid zenith]

I was fucking around with shit, and thought I "discovered" it all by myself. Got all excited and posted some shit in ogryn chat trying to share my glory.. Everyone was like.. yeah... where the fuck you been mate?

[severe folio]

it does ?

[echo frigate]

It does LMAO

[severe folio]

why did someone told me it doesnt

[near wyvern]

Atheneum, read rending section

[severe folio]

well im told

[bleak tulip]

why wouldnt it?

[frigid zenith]

It does, it's just meh.

[plucky flax]

Before patch 13 it didn't.

But rending was changed since the rework.

[severe folio]

rending shockwave

brittle

[echo frigate]

I'm a patch 13 player so rending Shockwave go brrrrr

[severe folio]

that increase the trauma damage ?

[echo frigate]

You can 3 tap crushers with it

[plucky flax]

Yeah only since patch 13.

Pre 13 rending shockwave only helped teammates.

[severe folio]

well i was told in patch 14

[frigid zenith]

I'll tell you what I did find that I haven't seen posted anywhere yet. limb splitter blessing on a shovel and a mk2 helbore bayonet.

bayonet gets the limbsplitter 60% power.

That's fucking funny.

[severe folio]

probably because limbsplitter is bad

[frigid zenith]

It really is.

[near wyvern]

Average player base has the cognitive capabilities of a pox walker. Go into Atheneum (📌) read how rending works, be enlightened.

[severe folio]

i know how rending work, i was just told that trauma deals the same damage anyway

[frigid zenith]

you get WAY more mileage from blazing spirit.

Like, a lot more.

Not even close.

[near wyvern]

@frigid zenith I guess that applies to other ranged melee strikes as well?

Not that it would matter