psyker-class

[viscid matrix]

32 stacks of soulblaze on a Beast of Nurgle will shred thru its hp

[idle bay]

That's me on damnation with Purgatus boss damage.

One beast of nurgle i had to solo... team was either dead or digested...

Only section when smooth run gone nuts

[viscid matrix]

and to think, that damage was only with 16 stacks, maybe 18

[idle bay]

It was really slow kill. Despite we both were standing still (He tried to vomit non-stopd through dome).

[bleak tulip]

nothing quite as good

the rare example of a three psyker match being good

[viscid matrix]

dome is so good for that, you cant be swallowed if he doesnt vomit on you first

[plucky flax]

It's soulblaze stacks stealing time

[idle bay]

Yup it virtually breaks the mini-boss locking him to repeat same action over and over again with no result 🙂

[near wyvern]

purga with creeping flames, wildfire, pc and warp siphon (4 stacks) likes carnival

[potent echo]

You took wildfire?

[near wyvern]

yup

[potent echo]

Does it help at all?

[near wyvern]

allows you to flame some and move with knife without having to rebuild everything again

it's not vital

[potent echo]

I've coped for a couple of games, took it off and never noticed any difference

[near wyvern]

but it does help to up keep DPS when you reposition or have to BB a gunner

[summer prairie]

5% ranged dmg node probably better value

[potent echo]

Does it buff soulfire damage?

[summer prairie]

pretty sure I tested it and does

[plucky flax]

Wildfire always worth it.

[silk hawk]

i heard that shit is bugged too

[viscid matrix]

but at that point, you might as well take any other talent choice, especially when there are so many good ones nearby in most builds

[plucky flax]

[near wyvern]

it's a matter of taste

[summer prairie]

nevermind it doesn't buff sb

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/man-running-out-of-restaurant-man-eating-man-eating-and-running-cartoon-eating-cartoon-man-running-gif-24721662

[idle bay]

I take wildfire it feels like it worth it. That extra spread helps right enough

[near wyvern]

wildfire is bugged to hell but it does nhelp a bit to give you some initial stacks, which decrease the damage ramp up time

[viscid matrix]

it spreads those 4 stacks equallly on all nearby, so at most 4 enemies get 1 stack each, and if they already have more than 4 stacks, they gain 0

[silk hawk]

by what? by like 1 sec? 🙂

[idle bay]

But they are on fire and glow a bit which is nice 🙂 Helps to see if anyone else in that dark passageway or spawn-door

[silk hawk]

spending whole talent for that is kinda eh

[potent echo]

I rather take toughness cause I'm trash at the game

[viscid matrix]

toughness, extra toughness generation nodes, defnesive nodes further down the tree, 5% move speed

[potent echo]

I've been flipflopping between 4-6 warp stacks

[viscid matrix]

so many better choices than wildfire

[potent echo]

6 warpcharges feels slightly more impactful than wildfire

[silk hawk]

i mean its a free 4% dmg and -6% peril, always nice to have 🙂

[clear heath]

that depends on how much you spam your ability

[viscid matrix]

tbh its always worth taking as many keystone upgrades as you can

[clear heath]

if it's a creeping flames spam build, you might not reach 6 charges often

[silk hawk]

anyways, tell me purgatus basically dont benefit from "ranged dmg+" stat right?

[summer prairie]

purg and trauma don't

[potent echo]

Yea sometimes you don't reach 6 but I think it's still better than wildfire, unless

Maybe I'll try wildfire again

[fading iris]

Brunt is giving me some spicy stuff to work with nvm is 68% radius

[summer prairie]

someone needs to do some runs with and without wildfire and check what percentage of their total damage is soulblaze damage

[potent echo]

There's way too many variables

[summer prairie]

there is

but over enough runs you might see something. Or probably won't because it doesn't do anything

[potent echo]

Probably fight 100 poxwalkers in the psyk 100 times each and see which one takes longer

[clear heath]

I feel like wildfire only really helps creeping flames.
It's common for it to hit something 20m away, that enemy dies before reaching you, and then it spreads to other things approaching you.
If it's purg staff, it's enemies already close to you and those are probably onnfire already

[summer prairie]

I'd rather just take one extra toughness feat and go for 0 damage taken

[potent echo]

Creeping, most enemies die with only ~1 stack left

[clear heath]

nah

[potent echo]

I'm more questioning PC on purg

[glossy ember]

really curious about your warpfire damage

[potent echo]

Once in awhile I see it work and it's kinda nice, but also not really

[glossy ember]

shame you're not running the other scoreboard

[light quail]

tbh do the funny
disrupt destiny purg + bb

[clear heath]

like at the end of this vid, it does apply 4 stacks of soulblaze on the things i miss with creeping.
somewhat helpful because creeping flames is actually like a narrow long range beam and does miss things
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1046914150363844779/1169074077194014730/soulblaze_stall.mp4?ex=65668914&is=65541414&hm=1572c6cc1022f8d3b92db6b1a24f0c12d7a8ff1ec6416da16ba024339d6d6c04&

[glossy ember]

the push animation is so silly

[clear heath]

pretty much the whole horde has 4 stacks at that point

[light quail]

important to do hand workouts
carpal tunnel is a bitch

[silk hawk]

is BB a better pair for purge or assail still rocks?

[glossy ember]

true!

[light quail]

spark'ead knows the importance of good 'ands

[potent echo]

Is 4 stacks enough? Maybe with +flak

Last time I tested you needed 6 without +perk

[light quail]

i'd say BB for sure, if using venting shriek w/ blitz node/empowered psyonics

[summer prairie]

ignore me

[clear heath]

If i was actually fighting and had warp charges or cdr from psykinetic aura, i'd be able to shriek again before it wears off and turn that 4 into 10, which does kill gunners

[willow pebble]

hey, does somebody else have problems to complete "Warp Battery" 4 warp charges for 300 seconds?

[clear heath]

in an actual fight where i'm getting cooldown resets, it matters

[silk hawk]

i use venting + warp charges

[light quail]

splendid

[potent echo]

Venting with warp charges is just kinda too good

[clear heath]

6 stacks on their own wouldn't kill a gunner, but 4 stacks from wildfire + 6 from another shriek would

[silk hawk]

but just default venting i try to never use it if i can

[light quail]

im starting to join scrier gang

shits fun as hell for melee

[glossy ember]

[potent echo]

It really helps against shotgunner patrols

Which otherwise ignore purg rmb

[glossy ember]

based

[clear heath]

i do think wildfire would be kinda bad for purg itself, but i'm not a huge purg user so maybe someone can prove to me otherwise

[idle bay]

Melee psyker is myth 🙂 (don't blow cover)

[clear heath]

creeping flames wildfire has uses tho

[light quail]

scrier, bb, obscurus + laspistol is my current build

[potent echo]

The ranged slot for psyker is just too good to not use

[near wyvern]

with smite yeah

[idle bay]

Single Venting Shriek with all soulfire skill nodes kills shotgunner patrol by itself

[potent echo]

Does the wildfire stack that spread stay active for 8 seconds before decaying?

[light quail]

also I unironically enjoy using disrupt destiny

[potent echo]

Doesn't sound true

[near wyvern]

yeah it's just normal soulblaze that spreads

[potent echo]

6 stacks barely kill bruisers with 600hp

[light quail]

gaining walls on a special or chaining headshots between targets never gets old

[potent echo]

Shotgunners have 1000 lol

[glossy ember]

obscurus gazer

[clear heath]

yeah i don't believe it either

[viscid matrix]

i think you mean in every build

[clear heath]

although all it takes is killing 1 for perilous combustion to make them die after

[light quail]

obscurus is the goat
has a nice horde clear combo

L1 -> H2 -> block

[potent echo]

Unless you have +perk and also surge with EP and 10% damage maybe

Wait you can't have +perk with surge

[clear heath]

tfw screaming and killing an enemy just wipes a room

[viscid matrix]

fairly sure you can just h2 block cancle h2 repetedly

[light quail]

that's good for single targets yeah
but the one I put there is a horde sweeper

[near wyvern]

yes if you have surge staff with duelling sword and assail wildfire is going to do you a lot of good /s

[light quail]

oh nvm lol

[potent echo]

How do you block cancel H2

[glossy ember]

uhhh push attack should lead to H2?

or push idr

[light quail]

i'll have to try that

[idle bay]

Then it probably was some weird bug. There was a patrol of gunners marching (unaware of me) - in the next section (required jumong down). I thrown Venting Shriek with soulfire node into them and ran away to loot mats. No other players where present next to that section trasition spot. And kill feed showed those shotgunners dyeing one by one for me.

[viscid matrix]

https://youtu.be/C7cqUcJ8u5o

[idle bay]

is there knife combos there?

[viscid matrix]

yes

jtc went thru every weapon, and has combos for horde and single target

[idle bay]

Thank you. Then i need it . I wanted to learn knife 🙂

[light quail]

knievar fun

[sinful moth]

Does anyone know if cliffhanger is actually possible right now? I am losing my mind trying to do this right now.

[summer prairie]

The video says combat knife single target combo is heavy attack spam but pretty sure special+heavy is higher dps

Push attack might still be better though, even though they didn't buff it

[light quail]

also it has a fun ass blessing where backstabs have 100% rending
try finding that if you wanna do knife zealot (especially with shroudfield)

[burnt island]

Are any of these blessings on the Blaze Force Sword worth paying melk for?

[light quail]

deflector 4 is hella good

cheaper blocks and you can block gunfire

cant go wrong with it

[summer prairie]

The video also suggests special for Deimos single target dmg

[light quail]

what sword type is the one with deflect?

[burnt island]

Ooh. Found Run'n'Gun for surge staff too.

[burnt island]

Blaze Force Sword

[light quail]

iirc deimos has the strongest single target hit?

[orchid nest]

yeah it's a pretty big miss not mentioning the l1->h2 combo

[light quail]

obscurus is the all-arounder
deimos single target
illisi horde clear

[summer prairie]

probably didn't want to go too indepth

[orchid nest]

I would imagine so. he is an incredible player and knows about it for sure. it does make me question how useful any of the other weapon sections would be for me for weapons I don't know though

[viscid matrix]

obscuros is just bad, you only get it because its the first one you have access to

[grand abyss]

Oh yeah, I've been hoping to find one with that deflection blessing. It's good for retreating into a corner when a gunner is going nuts

[idle bay]

Question: Does Perlious Combaustion add stacks to enemies who are already have some Soulfire stacks?

[light quail]

idk I was using it yesterday and its got hands

especially pairing it with scriers

[viscid matrix]

its attack patterns are bad

and its damage is mediocre

[light quail]

nuh uh

[potent echo]

Yes

But it doesn't proc off soulblaze kills

[idle bay]

So if soulblaze kill elite - it does not proc? weird...

[glossy ember]

shred is nice

20% crit at 5 stacks is cool for the crit talents

[viscid matrix]

its light attack is like 60ish damage, and its heavy is like 110ish, its light attacks are 2 over head slashes and a stab (so single target) then its heavies are over head slashes (also single target), the heavy slash is about half the damage of a deimos stab, you see it with the overhead slash of deimos H1 compared to H2 stab

its just a worse version of deimos and cant horde clear like an illisi can with its wide swings

[grand abyss]

If smite gets restored to doing body hits, I'm guessing voidstrike staff will be dead in the water again?

[summer prairie]

deimos heavy special does have some nice breakpoints it can hit, like mauler one-shot with no uncanny stacks

[light quail]

the angles on the sweeps are a little awkward, but it means you headshot a lot of the time, so if you have the weakpoint = brittleness blessing, you can build that super ez

[viscid matrix]

Voidstrike hasnt lost its power, its sill op as hell

[light quail]

that and the overhead H1 feels super clean

[grand abyss]

I'm referring to the silly build that abuses the weakspot hits from smite to get auto crits from voidstrike

[viscid matrix]

obscuros doesnt have brittleness, it has rending on weak hit, but all 3 force swords have that blessing

[light quail]

that's what I meant
not too sharp on the blessings yet

[idle bay]

I know where your disbelif of Shriek killing shotgunners patrol coming from - it looks like mathemathically impossible. So i trying to figure out how it may happened. Taking into account that patrol of shotgunners also have stalkers, Still looking improbable.
It's like 6 stacks of soulfire dealing only ~64 or so damage total (before armor multiplier).

[light quail]

i have the power with peril and that rending one on my sword
i just pop scrier and get stuck into everything

[viscid matrix]

grab a version of each weapon, and go look at the damage numbers in the inspect menu, you can see attack breakdowns for every weapon
and then try them both in the psycanium

[viscid matrix]

yeh unstable power is amazing on a scrier build

[light quail]

scrier in general feels slept on
shield is great and shriek is a lifesaver sometimes
but lemme just juice up and charge the enemy rq

[bleak tulip]

might be a easy or use thing, I'm not a knife user but I know you can basically cancel out of the special with literally anything if you do it before the special connects which seems annoying

[orchid nest]

obscurus could use some tuning in its attack pattern and maybe a different weapon special to differentiate it a bit since deimos stole its spot so long ago. not sure what that would be though

[viscid matrix]

many many of the players who have been playing for a year, have barely touched BB, Warp charges and Shriek, we were stuck with only them for 11 months, we have been using everything else a lot

[summer prairie]

you actually want to cancel out of it since it's faster and the punch barely does anything

[light quail]

special could have a slight AOE/pushback in a cone, blasting whoever's behind your target

[viscid matrix]

its the noob force sword, you get it at a low level, its your first one

same applies to other weapons, there is a lower tier version that you get early on, but you dont use it again after getting the better version

[orchid nest]

Yeah it doesn't have to stay as only that though. they have been going through buffing everything after all that sucked

[viscid matrix]

dont get me wrong its not terrible, but Deimos is just a better choice for single target, and Illisi is a better choice for horde clearing
at most you might want to get a defensive obscuros with deflector and block efficiency with 80 warp resistance

[orchid nest]

yeah it's absolutely outclassed and has been since they were introduced. I don't see the need for there to be "noob" weapons at all though that you replace and are dead design weight. they have been moving away from that thankfully

[light quail]

I think krourk stubber and obscuros are the biggest examples of "outclassed" stuff rn

[viscid matrix]

Thammer too, there is a shit one and a good one

[light quail]

as in, they're good, but their variants blow em out the water

[orchid nest]

it's not for a lack of trying at least in some of the cases, it's hard to balance variants and have them all as desirable

[idle bay]

Until there be another weapon balance pass....

[viscid matrix]

also applies to the heavy swords, Thammers, Taxes, Caxes, Devil claws, Dueling swords, Power Swords, Cleavers, Bully Clubs

basicly every melee weapon type has shit versions, and better versions, or only 1 version

[orchid nest]

that many more things became viable in general was the best part about the recent patches for me. they do have a long way to go though

[idle bay]

I genunly love what they did to ogryn's weapons.

[orchid nest]

yeah same here, I have been playing ogryn a lot more

[idle bay]

No one even dares to sqeak of forums that ogryns are powerful, not even vilest pettiest rat forum Karen from "nerf evrything because i don;t like it" squad that nests there.

[orchid nest]

infact, I am not sure I would even include bully clubs in the above list. they need a little more tweaks but they are probably the closest thing to having all 3 variants workable for different builds and different talents and preference

[idle bay]

I have not imagine i wildest dreams that crude club and slaps will be one of the most powerful Ogryn weapons 🙂 That 2nd Heavy SLAYS

Slapping mini-bosses into submission is always causses the team to laugh and smile - and it's priceless 🙂

[orchid nest]

yeah it's great

[idle bay]

Still can be done with Shovel but needs a bit of the setup

[limber tartan]

Yea i wish we could use shovels

[orchid nest]

I need to give shovel another go, I just haven't put a lot of mats into them in general yet. it was much easier setting up the clubs with the shared blessings and always seeming to get them as emperor's gifts

[limber tartan]

Mk5 Force Shovel

[idle bay]

Colied with heated Barbed Wire

[glossy ember]

would

[glossy ember]

i should reinstall extended extended mode and replace illisi with a shovel

[idle bay]

can it make weapon to do proper BONK! sound?

[glossy ember]

that's a good question

i hope so

[near wyvern]

There might be a mod for that

To replace sound files

[sour bison]

its actually fun to play

[meager cedar]

Are there any psyker cosmetics that give the low, evil voice filter they added recently

[light quail]

idk

there's one for zealot on the knight looking set

you deadass turn into optimus prime with that shit on

[jovial mural]

bruh
last time i typed in this chat I pointed out that I wasnt getting much interation dialogue for the female loner psyker and asked if it was the same case for others
today i was playing and got a bunch of new voicelines ive never heard before
fatshark is trolling me
happy that I got to hear some ones I haven't tho

[quartz barn]

Ye they added new ones last week with the carnaval update

Also mixed up the common and uncommon ones that were alreasy there

Still sadge that the forshortened lifespan line is fully subtitled tho

[jovial mural]

sad part was I couldnt hear some parts of the dialogue cuz I was too focused on the gameplay lol

[west stream]

Same, it happens

[jovial mural]

shame, I really enjoy it
the voice acting cast is absolutely amazing

[west stream]

Also liked the mission where vox is malfunctioning and you hear morrow and the traitor guard commander

[plucky flax]

I hit a barrel with something and the flame aggroed the dh.

Then everyone just ran away rather than even attempting to kill it.

[light quail]

the VAs absolutely killed it

[plucky flax]

[light quail]

and continue to kill it

[lunar hollow]

how tf does this aggro DHs but zealot throwing knives dont

lmao

[orchid nest]

I hadn't seen this new decode helper mod, the people fighting in the posts about whether it's cheating or not is funny though

[limber tartan]

I only wish that poxburster sounds could be heard above all of that

[plucky flax]

Yeah I was so far away. The flame from red barrel somehow just woke it up and aggroed it.

[west stream]

My only regret is when we have 2 psykers with same voice so i get less unique dialogue

So sad

[light quail]

tbh it makes every mission refreshing, everyone's fun to have overseeing the op, whether it's zola, hallowette, morrow...

[round summit]

isnt this pretty good?

[light quail]

the new mission has a funny one where zola, hallowette and melk are all bickering and zola just sounds like a tired mom watching her kids fight

[near wyvern]

Yes

[near wyvern]

I feel like that mod is cheating

[limber tartan]

Your machine spirit is malfunctioning

[idle bay]

Not the funniest DH wake up. Best one so far - Mutie thrown player into DH right directly into him (1st place) . Sniper shot player through DH and woke him up (2nd place). Wildfire jumped half-room away to DH and woke him up (3rd place).

[west stream]

The idea none of them have anything better to do is hilarious

[orchid nest]

yeah it definitely crosses the line a bit I would say, probably won't survive

[light quail]

fr

[west stream]

3 managers for 4 rejects

[plucky flax]

DH is just sorta fucky these days tbh.

[jovial mural]

its kinda cheating but its like so miniscule most people prolly dont care
fatshark on the other hand might be a different story

[idle bay]

Players are loosing skill of dealing with them....

[orchid nest]

feel pretty much the same

[plucky flax]

Yeah even if it's not me I always attempt to kill it.

Since dh is squishy

[jovial mural]

really hope they give a bonus to killing demonhost

[idle bay]

like +100 Plasteel

[jovial mural]

im always running out of plasteel

[bleak tulip]

I assume the charge time of the heavy doesnt matter for this?

been curious about that

[orchid nest]

i'm kind of surprised found ya still lets you see stuff 80m away

[summer prairie]

matter in what sense?

[bleak tulip]

so is healthbars and people still use em :s

[bleak tulip]

like does the special do more damage the longer you hold the heavy? I assume not

[plucky flax]

Crosshair remap is also cheating.

[summer prairie]

no

[plucky flax]

Since plasma crosshair is borked.

[glossy ember]

a lot of mods are

[jovial mural]

did like 20 rolls for the dueling sword to get riposte
finally got it today
had to give a praise to the Omnissiah after that

[glossy ember]

if you have an advantage over modless experience mid combat, then it's basically cheating

but hey if bigfish aint saying anything...

imma use em

[near wyvern]

Yeah I don't use healthbars outside of creature spawner

[light quail]

weapon customisation peak cheats
I love putting reflex sights on every gun

lasgun reflex works amazingly well on everything lmao

[orchid nest]

can't help but wonder what kind of private mods people are running

[idle bay]

You don't need crosshair to shoot plasma you aim with your eyes, and shoot with your heart and shit explodes in small bloody peices 🙂

[covert ermine]

is true aim work with smite?

[idle bay]

better not think about it. Might be some really depraved things - like... like... text in Comic Sans

[orchid nest]

depends on what you mean. it will build stacks for you but not consume them. that could change depending on how they hotfix the random body part thing though

[idle bay]

For now yes 🙂 Easy 5 stacks. That you can spend on Void staff with T4 Surge blessing. for guaranteed double crit

[cedar gale]

Give gun psyker build

[orchid nest]

yeah like this OP one should have been kept private for sure https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/226

[idle bay]

Leroy jenkins is basic thing. Like Unlimited power mod that says Palpatine lines.

[orchid nest]

[idle bay]

Nothing shameful or awkward

[orchid nest]

another great mod

reminds me of macho man randy savage dragons in skyrim

[glossy ember]

i usually have a lot

[idle bay]

I think i need a mod that replaces sounds IgnatusCrusher with a a clown hammer sqeaks

[halcyon creek]

I want the wind-up of a thammer heavy to trigger, maybe 1% of the time, “Vibe Check.”

[orchid nest]

with how many mods that are public that cross the line a bit I mean it's pretty much a guarantee that there is some pretty egregious stuff that people just don't publicly release right? like people don't seem to like this decoder one very much but it could have very well just have been his private mod for a long time

[halcyon creek]

And another 1% to trigger “No horny.”

[idle bay]

and another 1% "Stop! Hammer time!"

[halcyon creek]

Welcome to the Internet. Degeneracy is out there, and you can’t stop it

That’s why the Fatshark policy is “don’t mess with other people’s play experiences”

[orchid nest]

yeah I mean, it would be silly to have this problem be solved like in their previous title with sanctioned mods

[idle bay]

Well thing about cosmetic and SFX mods - they are just for your client - everybody else see an average John Darktide.

[halcyon creek]

Precisely. A nonzero amount of those John Darktides are running the shirtless mod on their side

The sooner you accept it, the more at peace you will be

[orchid nest]

we'll get back there again in darktide 2 I guess

[idle bay]

I really need mod that replaces every enemy with Erebus, and puts erebus heads on Mutant, poxhounds and minibosses.

[light quail]

I need metal pipe sfx on crucis charged hits

[silk hawk]

@potent echo the fk it was? !

xD

[round summit]

there are no monstrosites on this list?

[vestal fulcrum]

That would be Unyielding

(For the most part)

[round summit]

mostly use this on bosses, worth?

[vestal fulcrum]

Mayhaps, but IDK if some other breakpoints might be more worthy

Definitely swap out Weakspot damage, if anything, and/or Rampage

Uncanny is good and Maniac is also good

[round summit]

yea

prob gona get shred instead of rampage

honestly thinking maybe take unyield

[orchid nest]

unyielding is good yeah

could also go with carapace. or flak I guess? I don't know much about flak with DS breakpoints

[glossy ember]

he gets to try it out

[obtuse moth]

riposte is 6s of 20% crit chance whenever you most need it fwiw

[round summit]

well already got shred

not sure what to swap the perk to tho

flak is the obvious choice but think id rather go unyield

[orchid nest]

it can be very much build based. if you use it a lot for monsters I would say go for it. like there is some setups I'd want unyielding/maniac, but a purg/bb setup I'd rather have carapace for example

luckily you can just change it whenever

[round summit]

im smite

so like

anything that isnt monster or sub 4 mobs im not gona use it

[orchid nest]

yeah unyielding is good then, go for it

[round summit]

aight

thx

[orchid nest]

help with monstrosities and you can open up bulwarks with smite and it'll help with them too

[round summit]

yeah

now i just need to change my gun

been using this

emp blessed me with it when i hit 30

[west stream]

Laspistol gang

Join us

[round summit]

yeah tbh as thinking laspistol

so tired of revolver

[west stream]

High crit, cool shove

[orchid nest]

haven't tried that infantry lasgun but laspistol, columnus, or revolver are popular

[silk hawk]

Empathic evasion is worth picking with blazing trauma?

[round summit]

think ill go laspistol

[worn canopy]

Aight siblings. Empowered Psionics 12.5% or guaranteed on elite kills.

[west stream]

Laspistol with dum dum and infernus

[silk hawk]

second

[west stream]

Melts specials and monstrosities usually

[worn canopy]

Elite kills?

[silk hawk]

yes

[west stream]

You can drop Ghost if you are running crit and rely on empathic evasion

[round summit]

what about snipers?

or lobbers

[orchid nest]

depends on what blitz

[worn canopy]

BB

[orchid nest]

yeah elite kills

[west stream]

Grenadiers die from a headshot and snipers tend to, its precise enough to handle em in either case

[worn canopy]

Only really works on gunners

[bold maple]

bb need another 25% dmg buff with EP

[west stream]

Need to check breakpoints

[bold maple]

cant 1 shot rager in damnation

[west stream]

As mine isnt optimal tbh

[worn canopy]

I am also using flame staff which can proc the 12.5% which grants hesitation on which choice.

[orchid nest]

yeah bio-lodestone isn't too bad with purg. the gunner chains are pretty nice though

[west stream]

Ultimately laspistol wants headshots, feels great to achieve em. High stability is handy for that

[digital narwhal]

I mean, it should be Elite kills for every Blitz imo

[summer prairie]

I don't think so

[orchid nest]

assail has a pretty good use case for bio-lodestone if you supplement horde clear with it because it still has the unlisted effect of hitting 6 targets instead of 3 and it has a very high chance of reproccing its use

[summer prairie]

for something like smite creeping flames bio-lodestone is better and even for BB i think elite kills is questionable

[orchid nest]

and I would always use it with smite

[round summit]

btw, i only have 2 stamina for block, worth getting curio with stam?

[digital narwhal]

A lot of people run 2 HP Curios and +3 Stamina Curio iirc, so yeah

[round summit]

hp? thought we wanted toughnes

[summer prairie]

if you don't use your melee much except defensively, just run +2 stamina on it

rather lose some weapon perk than, say, 21% health

[viscid matrix]

- there are too many times when toughness gets outright stripped
- plenty of enemy attacks do more toughness than health damage
- we have more health than toughness, so those % go farther

[digital narwhal]

I quite like the extra stamina for Kinetic Deflection

[orchid nest]

speaking of that, it is kind of weird that 6 targets EP thing for assail still isn't either listed or changed

[viscid matrix]

I have 278hp, i can live thru a crusher slam

[viscid matrix]

FS being FS

[steel egret]

Incompetence as a live service

[potent echo]

stacking health makes alot more sense, but i also want >150 toughness

[potent echo]

maybe its intended lmao

like deimos flinging everything towards the right

[orchid nest]

it could be yeah, who knows I guess

[potent echo]

i bet the developers dont even know

[orchid nest]

one guy knows and he will be on vacation soon

[potent echo]

their fix will be adding more code

[light quail]

canot wait for traitor curse part 2 boys
ready for balance to go out the window with Flakmark weapons

[limber tartan]

They will add a function that overwrites the previous function that causes a problem

[potent echo]

im doing it

[digital narwhal]

Tbf, they could just be cosmetics, but

maybe

[light quail]

based burst

[light quail]

my guess is new weapon variants but cosmetics would be cool (pls through commissary fs)

[orchid nest]

I just want this hotfix to come out

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-why-pepe-pepehands-crying-gif-12683546

[light quail]

like I would love it if the flakmarks were variants for weapons with none
so you have a flakmark laspistol that's got burstfire as an alternate fire mode

[limber tartan]

Oh yea, we're supposed to get those skins that they've mentioned for people that played the game on pc untill the end of this month

[light quail]

yup

[foggy breach]

we can guess which flakmarks are coming based on the datamine i think

[orchid nest]

I have legit been waiting to play EP smite since the talents came out. first infinite smite, then I didn't want to abuse the surge bug, then right into rng body spots

[light quail]

vanguard bundle gonna slap

[spice oar]

What are flak mark weapons?

[light quail]

right now, just inaccessible model swaps

mainly found em through a mod

[limber tartan]

Yea if i remember correctly someone datamined those cosmetics and they are not reskins of what we currently have, they do look different but not 100% a different style

[light quail]

extended weapon customisation

some of them have built-in decals

[limber tartan]

They look similar is what im saying

But free shit is always welcome

[light quail]

there's one for laspistol with a shark-mouth design at the front and another for ripper that's tagged in graffiti

[limber tartan]

Oh yea that one looks cool

It was a reddit post i just didn't save it

[foggy breach]

theres also double-barreled shotgun flakmarks

[light quail]

yeah those are gonna be sweet

[near wyvern]

WTF these stealth changes, you can LMB stagger Scab Ragers again

With purga

[foggy breach]

which if i had to guess is the weapon we're getting next if any

[light quail]

zealot players eating good with the bubble daryl

[limber tartan]

You know it would be nice if they made that zealot vanguard hood be equipable on vet too

After all some cosmetics excluding backpacks are equipable on all classes

[orchid nest]

now we just need to go back to it doing the small stagger on crushers initially

[light quail]

yeah true
tbh im surprised vet one didnt have a helmet

[glossy ember]

man, if it had at least one decent perk, I would've used it.

[limber tartan]

Buy it and sell it

[glossy ember]

devastating strike sounds like a good meme if you add shred and scrier to the mix

[limber tartan]

I am not sure what devastating strike does

[light quail]

on crit, you basically have infinite cleave if you dont hit a mauler or ogryn

[limber tartan]

OH wait that's a melee weapon

[glossy ember]

i thought ignore hit mass would apply even to maulers/ogryns?

[limber tartan]

Damn i thought it was a gun soo i was wondering what would it actually do there

[bitter escarp]

incentivize poor play with people spraying down hordes

[glossy ember]

but yeah ignore hit mass sounds incredible

that's just perma infinite cleave???

honestly i think i'll get it

and suck up the melee damage on elite as my one bad perk

[light quail]

it might, idk

still, sounds lit with scriers

[glossy ember]

lemme give it a shot

[light quail]

(maybe disrupt destiny as well for the cheeky crit bonus)

[glossy ember]

shame i have 0 blessings on chainswords, saw a few shreds appear...

never picked em tho

lemme give it a shot

[orchid nest]

I don't know enough about it to have an opinion but on doing a search it seems like this discord really hates devastating strike in general

[glossy ember]

why

maybe they don't crit enough?

on an ogryn i can imagine it being garbage yeah

[light quail]

no crits?

[glossy ember]

but on psyker? a million crits.

[orchid nest]

I have no idea it's just people saying it's bad and to swap it off etc etc I was looking for an in depth explanation

[glossy ember]

wait

it was changed

[orchid nest]

Oh ok that makes sense

[glossy ember]

[orchid nest]

website is wrong gotcha

[glossy ember]

nvm I guess.

[viscid matrix]

its meh, better off with other blessings

[orchid nest]

yeah that makes sense then lol

[glossy ember]

shame

[light quail]

cleave 4 days though

[viscid matrix]

Rev it up and Bloodletter is better

[orchid nest]

armory website tricking us smh

[bitter escarp]

tbf if it worked like old bromentum on crit

[viscid matrix]

check the guide in future

[bitter escarp]

shit would be aight

[glossy ember]

i mean i was misled by old translation on website

[orchid nest]

I use bloodletter and shred on mine

[bitter escarp]

sometimes worth hoarding this shit just in case fatshark revises them down the line

[orchid nest]

yeah to be fair the atheneum would have listed the old one high anyways if it was that version lmao

[viscid matrix]

it was listed higher before the nerf

[glossy ember]

makes sense

[orchid nest]

I can imagine. I didn't really use the chainsword much before the talent patch though

[viscid matrix]

Pygex is a legend, and updates it after each patch

[upper sage]

These stats are so funny

[orchid nest]

it is a great resource for sure, although I imagine most of the regulars here don't need to reference it as much. the extent of my chainsword blessing study though was basically just - I am not taking it for horde clear anyways if I am picking it

[viscid matrix]

oof unlucky, charge rate is the 3rd most important stat

[upper sage]

Would Warp Flurry cover that up?

[orchid nest]

i'll be tempted to run it basically if a setup would have pretty terrible monstrosity dps otherwise and everything else is covered

[viscid matrix]

not really, inspect the weapon, and mouse over charge rate to see what it does'

[upper sage]

I did already

[viscid matrix]

flurry doesnt make up for it

[orchid nest]

yeah especially on trauma that is going to be so so slow. isn't the charge time on it like a huge variance?

[viscid matrix]

yes

[obtuse moth]

because its completely terrible compared to brutal momentum and its analogues @glossy ember

[orchid nest]

yeah I could see that now, had no idea about the nerf. boodendorf tricking us with his armory page basically

with its outdated text

[glossy ember]

hey i tricked myself oto!

[orchid nest]

I spent basically all my time pre talent patch playing psyker with force swords only so had no idea about that blessing change

[quasi junco]

wtf? Did you know you can use VS to save you from a peril explosion?

[digital narwhal]

I always love it when someone rags on me for going Gun Psyker in the pre-game lobby, only for me to out damage them and save them multiple times in a run

[digital narwhal]

Yes

Battle Meditation can save you , too.

[quasi junco]

I feel dumb for just finding that out

[orchid nest]

people still do this? smh

[limber tartan]

Battle meditation is really a no brainer for me

[digital narwhal]

Something something infinite ammo
Something something bad teammate

[quasi junco]

I’ll have to look that u

Up

[glossy ember]

people complain about psyker taking ammo for no reason

when if they had someone else than a psyker it'd be the same shit

it's like people complaining about vets not taking ammo aura lol

how would you do the mission without a vet??

[limber tartan]

It's really nice, i guess you could argue that you don't want to take it if you're going with warp rider but even then you should since you will be quelling less which means more damage output in total

[orchid nest]

I mean I wasn't the biggest fan of gunker in the past but I would have never tried to shame someone for taking it into a match or say anything at all. but even despite that it's like really good now and I even went into running it myself

[obtuse moth]

vets not taking ammo aura is annoying. it really is BiS imo

[limber tartan]

I guess for many people the issue with Psykers taking ammo is the fact that they need ammo in the first place

Because from someone else's perspective we have staffs that require no ammo

Soo therefore, why would we take guns

[obtuse moth]

if i run gunpsyker i'll rely on assail as much as possible, depending how everyone's ammo is doing

and prioritise all pickups for everyone else

[limber tartan]

I have tried running assail on my gun psyker build but i just don't like it

I feel like it is not doing enough for me

[obtuse moth]

just spam assail till you cant then swap to pistol or revolver and shoot red skulls till dead

[limber tartan]

And i can't really take brain burst beacuse of how the tree is built

[obtuse moth]

rinse and repeat

[light quail]

i've always found it lacking pre-patch 13 but now it's a proper playstyle?
hell. yes.

[limber tartan]

Not that i would but i would have wanted to at least try

[obtuse moth]

shredder ascendant blaze psyker was totally a thing prepatch

and you still had brain burst for armor

[potent echo]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

PERHAPS its good??

[severe folio]

maybe

[light quail]

tbh I found myself playing super aggro with it
popping scriers and just going on a rampage with my obscurus sword or using my laspistol to constantly take out specials or destiny targets

[spice oar]

Surge and smite fixed, gore effects stayed tho 😔

[light quail]

scriers gaze is unironically my favorite psyker ability

[potent echo]

im talking about wildfire though lol

[orchid nest]

assail does have decent synergy with gunker swapping back and forth. it can proc dumdum I believe if you swap and you build up the extra warp damage going down the right side with your gun/melee kills. I'll take it if I need to conserve ammo in the match especially. but yeah smite is also great with it, especially since it's a very easy 1 point investment

[limber tartan]

It's certainly more fun to use

[digital narwhal]

Malefic Momentum is also a thing

Up to 20% more Warp Damage just for getting Non-Warp Kills

[light quail]

assail and the early tree perk where you gain warp dmg from non-warp kills

[orchid nest]

yeah that's what I was saying I just forgot the name of the talent

[digital narwhal]

Oh wait

[light quail]

shoot stuff then fling ur shards around

[digital narwhal]

Ye I see you mentioned that

Sorry, my glasses ain't on

[limber tartan]

There are 2 perks that would increase the warp damage one from kills and the other one from crits

[orchid nest]

no problem

[frigid zenith]

The issue with soulblaze builds is if there's another person in that game running DoTs at all.

[light quail]

my brain aint on

[frigid zenith]

Fuckkksss your dps.

[left mirage]

gunpsyker is one helluva drug

[obtuse moth]

no it doesn't. the damage is still there from venting shriek and perilous combustion

and bleeding + regular burning are separate dots. all the damage is there. you're still doing that dps

[left mirage]

its like playing zealot but i also have a gun that melts bosses

[frigid zenith]

gunpsyker, the sometimes fun meme.

[left mirage]

its always fun

[light quail]

I did this last night on an auric damn
still got a way to go in terms of learning gunpsyker

[left mirage]

looks good to me

you werent bottom of the scoreboard

[light quail]

lmao I was

[left mirage]

tied for most damage taken but you dont have lowest kills or damage

or boss damage

unless you're tim

[light quail]

idk why but I was an ogryn magnet last night

[limber tartan]

The whole stats thing is a myth, as long as you're not falling behind you're good

[obtuse moth]

free headshots

[light quail]

had one match where every crusher would just ignore my teammates beating the shit out of them and beeline for me while im doing something else

literally the amount of times I died bc of it

[left mirage]

ye, but if im not bottom of the scoreboard on a fairly even team then im happy

[digital narwhal]

Gun Psyker, is indeed, one hell of a drug.

[left mirage]

you just push f and become a zealot

[limber tartan]

Yea i feel like monstrosities in 80% of the time go for me first immediately

[left mirage]

its honestly kinda addicting

[round summit]

give build

[light quail]

the worst one was when I was behind the entire team in a horde and a crusher was coming up on them
I turn around to deal with enemies coming in behind and im dead to the crusher

[limber tartan]

It makes me sad when i can't shoot the big glowie on a big slug

[digital narwhal]

Nah, I'm gonna gatekeep it

[light quail]

crushers fucking hate me

this is what I get for playing too much ogryn

[round summit]

[light quail]

even after the win our vet lightheartedly said i was an "ogryn magnet"

[orchid nest]

my guess is uncanny melee with assail using that combo and columnus

[limber tartan]

There will be games where you just cannot really focus on dealing damage, rather you gotta focus on staying alive because all the horse shit is falling down upon thee

[digital narwhal]

Yes, but I wasn't using Uncanny to buff my Assail

I try not to abuse that

[light quail]

laspistol smite isnt too bad either
I was doing smite yesterday on an overall build (mainly doing penances) and that shit is dope

being able to tie down a shitload of enemies and let your team breathe is unbelievably clutch

[orchid nest]

yeah laspistol is great

and smite is an easy 1 point pick as gunker too if your team would benefit from the cc

[light quail]

laspistol + scriers crit build + infernus

[left mirage]

this is what i use

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9aa8919c-dc3a-4f6f-a07a-83c7b994b22c

[light quail]

is scary

[round summit]

ty!

[light quail]

tbh try putting Unstable Power on the sword

scriers does amazingly well with it

[left mirage]

worse than slaughterer for me because im always killing

[light quail]

ah fair

slaught has more potential

[digital narwhal]

I prefer Chainsword if I'm using Scrier's, simply because I don't have to use Peril with it

[left mirage]

lowkey feel like uncanny strike is going to get hit

[light quail]

same

[left mirage]

i dont use illisi's alt fire unless i hear a mutie

[digital narwhal]

It 100% will

[light quail]

especially on swords where you hit head ez

[left mirage]

then i try to heavy swing its head

[digital narwhal]

120% Rending is way too phat to leave as is

[light quail]

tbh give obscurus a try

[left mirage]

meanwhile vet tree has like 20% rending

[light quail]

its still my main fsword, even with the better ones

[glossy ember]

I love that

really makes it nice to preemptively prepare for a scrier eating up your warp charges

[light quail]

you run scrier with charges?
im running it with disrupt destiny rn

[orchid nest]

I love my bloodletter chainsword, rounds out so many builds for me

[glossy ember]

yeah cuz i play staff

[left mirage]

they fixed disrupt destiny not highlighting the bucketheads and flakjackets

so its much nicer now

[light quail]

never tried staff scriers lol
might be fun

[orchid nest]

I have such problems with DD. I know I should just chill out and not go mark hunting so aggressively but there I am again aggroing all kinds of shit

[glossy ember]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxPGYtWQ77U

[left mirage]

i use it as an early warning detection system

[glossy ember]

staff go zap zap

[left mirage]

but yeah, sometimes i do also neuron activation into patrols

[severe folio]

before worry about staff id be really happy if i have teammate with thinking brain

[glossy ember]

although if you want a proper scrier gotta always make sure PT stacks are up before u go sicko mode

[orchid nest]

yeah I know I should treat it like this more but then I just lose all self control

[night crater]

Which one was unstable power again?

[bitter escarp]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/hotfix

[left mirage]

i keep saying, its like crack

you get the kill

[bitter escarp]

"Fixed an issue where the Psyker “Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff” and “Smite” blitz would target random enemy hitzones"

[left mirage]

and your speed shoots way up

[left mirage]

+power up to 20% based on peril

[night crater]

Ty

[orchid nest]

yeah and I usually run with a static group so then after many a kill stealings and aggroing they ask me to switch off DD

[severe folio]

dawg every auric i been seeing

is just hell lol

[round summit]

can other sword work?

only have duellist rn

[left mirage]

hm, ill have to alter it a bit

[severe folio]

DAWG I KEEP GOING INTO DEAD ASS FAIL MISSIONS

literally every fukin strike team is suffering a floor of hell

[light quail]

increased power with peril%

[hearty oak]

Pubs be like

[severe folio]

i dont think auric pub is better than neutral damnation pub

i still havent got a single victory over the last 5 days

all the players are fukin frog

[orchid nest]

the best is when you spawn in already dying, dead, or falling through the world and then they get mad at you for dying

[light quail]

your time will come

[severe folio]

also this game has TERRIBLE connection

like

good fucking god

[left mirage]

https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor?id=9aa8919c-dc3a-4f6f-a07a-83c7b994b22c

[severe folio]

bro i just cant stop feeling fed up

literally im stressing way more than when i am not playing

what is this fukin

aaaaaaa

[azure bridge]

surge staff is saved?

[severe folio]

surge staff is gone

[left mirage]

reduced to atoms

[severe folio]

they will never keep it off bug

[azure bridge]

wait

new bug?

[round summit]

how come assail dont work with duellist?

[orchid nest]

next bug - they will accidentally reintroduce the sfx change where it blinded you to both surge and smite

[left mirage]

you need the soulblaze talents

to help with hordeclear

or you could try sticking to assail and relying on it for clear

but on higher difficulties it runs out quickly

definitely feel the nerf to regen

[azure bridge]

does surge have ANOTHER bug now?

[left mirage]

i think its kinda balanced now

[round summit]

hmm okey, thanks for build

[left mirage]

although maybe they could knock the ammo down to 7-8

[lime creek]

hey guys with voidstrike staff, do you fully charge it up? or spam like half charged attacks. Idk what to use since I am running surge but fully charged is powerful

[orchid nest]

it targets random body parts now which was intended for gibbing reasons, but it wasn't intended to impact its damage which it does right now. because if it hits a limb it does reduced damage

[left mirage]

depends on the situation

[azure bridge]

righ but i see a patch notes saying they fixed that?

[left mirage]

i fullcharge or near fullcharge to the weakspot if im staggering a boss

i go around half charge for most cases (crusher killing, hordes, etc)

[orchid nest]

I don't think the hotfix is out yet? unless it just came out and I missed it. they did say the fix would be in the next hotfix

[lime creek]

gotcha thanks

[left mirage]

though tbh there's no wrong way to voidstrike

you just spam the bowling balls

[severe folio]

third fail

[lime creek]

but there's a better way

[severe folio]

urgh

haaaa

fuki ndarktide

how do you guys keep your sanity playing through this patch

[azure bridge]

So, in true fatshark fashion, hotfix 1.2.12 supposedly fixes surge staff. Fun fact they typoed the hotfix to read 1.2.11

[orchid nest]

Haha yeah, sounds about right

[lime creek]

da emperah protects

[glossy ember]

oh sweettttt

[azure bridge]

so yeah

[severe folio]

fuck the emperor

[lime creek]

heresy

[orchid nest]

it should be out in the next couple days though

[severe folio]

dont put hope on it

[azure bridge]

says it was released on steam today

[glossy ember]

says it just went live

on steam

[severe folio]

theyll prob add another god stricken bug

after they remove this one

or maybe theyll just stall this bug for eternity

[orchid nest]

oh really? let me look I guess. usually they put it in the news channel here on discord

[potent echo]

LIVE ON STEAM

WHERE WHO

[azure bridge]

https://www.playdarktide.com/news/hotfix

[severe folio]

at this point i have no fukin hope or whatsoever expectation on fatshark

[azure bridge]

ignore the date

has proper date inside page

[severe folio]

theyll fuck everything up and we'll gobble it all up because we are all expect CBT enjoyers

[limber tartan]

Oh yea i noticed this is today's notes

[glossy ember]

[azure bridge]

someone test all the staves and see what they bugged

[limber tartan]

Wait did the hotfix come out ?

Or was the info just posted today

[azure bridge]

says today

november 20th

[glossy ember]

"Tweaked the Psyker “Nomanus Mk VI Surge Force Staff” to always trigger maximum on-kill gore effects on a critical hit kill"

[limber tartan]

Surely there would be a notification

[glossy ember]

ooo

[orchid nest]

interesting, thank you. I'll go test surge for ya

[limber tartan]

Soo it twists their nuts on a crit

[azure bridge]

ty, i have a voidstrike i can test to see if its bugged

[limber tartan]

Nomanus Mk VII Testicular Torsion Staff

[lime creek]

the powers of chaos are quite frightful

[azure bridge]

so the hotfix patch notes on the webpage is labeled 1.2.11 even though they call it 1.2.12 in the paragraph describing it. If they typo'd the webpage maybe they typo'd the actual patch?

[fresh reef]

So they say they normalized Surge damage. That means it can't deal headshot damage anymore yeah?

And does Smite/True Aim still work?

[glossy ember]

no

it's gone for both

[lime creek]

wait they nerfed smite?

[glossy ember]

hm*

[severe folio]

fifth mission wiped

[orchid nest]

I just crit a crusher for 500ish still so the patch notes for the hotfix there may be a bit premature

[severe folio]

maybe there should be a setting where i dont get maelstrom or high intensity in quickplay

[glossy ember]

i didn't get a dl

[azure bridge]

yeah i'm seeing headshots still on smite

[glossy ember]

so pretty sure we didn't get it yet

[orchid nest]

yeah I don't think it is in yet

[azure bridge]

they mention steam, perhaps its going through verification?

[severe folio]

guys be honest, does auric have better players

[orchid nest]

possibly yeah, they usually light up the news channel here on the discord when it goes live

[fresh reef]

It has worse players

[empty hemlock]

no...

[severe folio]

oka ythen

back to neutral i go

and fuck auric

im not paying 40 to get cockandball torture

[fresh reef]

Like you're either going to get the gods of the imperium at level 300+ or you get Vet McStandstill who's only here because he does the highest level content available regardless of if he's good or not

[quasi junco]

Some pay more

[potent echo]

ayo new patch

is surge real again

[empty hemlock]

lmao, surge

[orchid nest]

I wonder if fatshark will troll us true level enjoyers one day here by just resetting it with their own system either intentionally or unintentionally as they are known to do

[azure bridge]

as far as the patch notes? yes, as far as it being deployed? we don't know they say it has in the notes but...

[digital narwhal]

I don't wanna lose my hundreds of levels :(

[hasty python]

hi all anybody able to help me with the monstro penance plzzz

[glossy ember]

yes

[empty hemlock]

I still see people who join Auric with 300-400 level weapons

[orchid nest]

me either but I could totally see them like accidentally doing it while messing with the system. like accidentally resetting everyones loadouts

[glossy ember]

well once we get the patch

[potent echo]

i'll check it (?)

1.29 GB UPDATE

WHY

[azure bridge]

omg i love this

[potent echo]

1.29GB to update some lua files

[hasty python]

anybody able to help with a penance

[empty hemlock]

which one

[hasty python]

monstro

[empty hemlock]

good luck chief

[chrome patrol]

is creeping flames still able to kill small groups of hordes?

[hasty python]

my last one 🙂

[potent echo]

never changed, and yea

[chrome patrol]

nice ty

[digital narwhal]

Yea

[orchid nest]

that penance still works with weakened monstrosities right? pretty easy to do it on a maelstrom mission with them if so

[potent echo]

remember you need >86% peril though

for maximum blaze stacks

[chrome patrol]

yea ik ^^ im also running the kinetic deflection

is easy to get peril with that

[digital narwhal]

Wasn't it around ~83%?

[azure bridge]

so i recently tried the "stop right there criminal scum" shield and I can't get enough of it

[potent echo]

oh yea 83%

math fail

[untold vault]

Fixed a bug where Hand-cannon weapon blessing effects were applied globally.
Does this mean that revolver psyker is dead?

[potent echo]

this was last patch, and no they just fixed an exploit

[untold vault]

Oh woops

What is today's update about?

[potent echo]

surge is back(?)

[orchid nest]

smite proccing true aim for revolver is actually pretty good but that may or may not be gone now. idk. downloading patch

[potent echo]

exhilarating might be real?

oh i forgot to renable my mods

also they are both hotfixes are 1.2.11

[untold vault]

Or is the patch for the vanguard cosmetics

[hot zephyr]

Jeez, 1.11GB patch, that's a little more than a hotfix

[potent echo]

they need to hotfix their version number too lol

[limber tartan]

Hotfix that Hotfix

[untold vault]

Lol lmao those vet changes

[orchid nest]

it seems like surge can still hit head but not get reduced limb damage

so a buff

[slate cedar]

this worth nabbing?

[potent echo]

yea surge can hit head now(?) need more test

[orchid nest]

it seems like it's acting the exact same as before except it just doesn't do reduced damage to the limb. so you can get lucky and hit the head still

[potent echo]

yea i just saw orange number LOL

[untold vault]

I personally think that obscurus is the worst force sword

Also that first target is too low

[orchid nest]

I think my surge fix prediction is real #psyker-class message

[eager mantle]

The more I use the force swords and I come across a crusher squads I think "only if I had the dueling sword"

[slate cedar]

I'm not that experienced with psyker, so I'm wondering if the traits are worth grabbing as much as anything

[sour bison]

huh

patch

[untold vault]

Imo not really unless you really like exorcist

[eager mantle]

I would take the blazing spirit off it at least

[hot zephyr]

Is there patch notes posted somewhere? I don't see any on Steam

[untold vault]

But yeah if you want a flame spreading build take blazing spirit

[orchid nest]

yeah here for some reason https://www.playdarktide.com/news/hotfix

[potent echo]

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1ERcGt83VICHgt/d1337hGAcKGz?invite=cr-MSx5N3ksMTk5OTY0MzA3LA

[orchid nest]

@summer prairie you still here? wondering what the code for surge's random target thing looks like now

[sour bison]

welp

[potent echo]

no it still does target random hitzones lol

[sour bison]

so smite still stacking?

[orchid nest]

yeah it does I just wanted to see if my prediction was right about how they would "fix" it

[azure bridge]

wait we can still get headshots?

[orchid nest]

yeah we can get headshots but the limb hits no longer do reduced damage

so it's a buff overall

[potent echo]

above video

[azure bridge]

that is a buf

[azure bridge]

I somehow, in my haste, completely misssed that

[potent echo]

smite still charges true aim

[azure bridge]

😮

[near wyvern]

That's huge

So Smite is essentially buffed now?

[orchid nest]

it actually makes true aim with surge and smite interesting since smite will still instant stack it for you

[azure bridge]

Looks like it

[near wyvern]

So it's now random between torso and head???

[potent echo]

limbs but i think they used the plasma code to override limb damage reduction

[orchid nest]

it's either random between torso and head or they coded it to not have reduced damage to limbs. based on the frequency of the headshots, I'm going to guess it still hits limbs

[azure bridge]

so a 1/6 chance to headshot

kinda like red crits in warframe

"kinda"

[orchid nest]

fellow warframe enjoyer

[severe folio]

well they are kinda fukin stupid

[hot zephyr]

Just loaded in and checked shop before testing some smite things... found this... so tempting, but so cursed.

[azure bridge]

I mean....

[bronze hound]

Is surge a thing again or still dead?

[azure bridge]

Surge is back on the menu.

[bronze hound]

Then I will order only and exclusively that, my good sir

[digital narwhal]

So, Surge Staff can still target multiple body parts, but they seemingly made the damage for arms/legs the same as torso?

[azure bridge]

That "appears" to be the case?

[digital narwhal]

Or it targets either the torso or head.

Either one.

[plucky flax]

Surge staff cooking.

[orchid nest]

wait hold up. surge actually does full damage to monstrosities now

[digital narwhal]

And now the gibbing is on crit kills specifically.

[azure bridge]

wut

[digital narwhal]

Ayo?

Imma go test rq

[orchid nest]

yeah I tested plague ogryn so far at least and it doesn't just tickle them anymore

[azure bridge]

... is that bugged or intended

[near wyvern]

Even then I'll take it

[plucky flax]

Surge staff headshotting nerds.

[azure bridge]

I mean I will too

[eager mantle]

At this point...can we really know?

[severe folio]

did they actually did a "surge hit all weakspot and torso and deal damage to each of it"

[orchid shadow]

Wait, seriously? Does mean LMB spam on monstrosities can actually do semi-meaningful damage?

[orchid nest]

lmb still seems bad, rmb seems to do its normal unyielding damage now instead of whatever was reducing it against monstrosities before

[idle bay]

Watched your fresh video. So you have same blocking annoyance with DS as me. That some hits bleedthrough even you block and push.

[sour bison]

Im actually impressed. Surge is not total shit anymore and smite critstack is still working

[plucky flax]

Yeah I notice it but I dunno if it's because of connection or what.

[sour bison]

wow FS

[plucky flax]

It feels like latency/lag when enemies should be staggered but their hit go through anyway.

[digital narwhal]

So, now that Vet's Fireteam Aura is +5% Damage, can we revert the nerf on Kinetic Presence?

[idle bay]

I think because it's push is very tiny and some of the crowd of zombies are simply not getting it. So they keep hitting

[eager mantle]

Finally got a decent Columnus IAG for my psyker. Oh so good. But I may now have to try running surge again

[severe folio]

might as well make kinetic presence give us ammo

[potent echo]

surge still procs true aim .mp4

[azure bridge]

... do i dare hope?

I might need to do a surge staff build now

[idle bay]

The only way for me to use DS safely vs horde is to dodge and block like a maniac to avoid this stray bleed-through-block hits

[severe folio]

if smite proc true aim can you use true aim with smite

[potent echo]

no smite doesnt consume the stack

stays at 5

[severe folio]

i see

[digital narwhal]

I wish Smite could crit, though

[potent echo]

because smite cant crit i guess

you can switch to surge

smite surge combo

[orchid nest]

have a random surge staff sitting around with t3 unyielding and can get the crits up to 1800ish on a plague ogryn with perfect aim and no other buff

[severe folio]

lightning rod is back to the menu

[potent echo]

real? (fake)

[azure bridge]

horde cc with smite, use surge to nuke bosses and elites?

[potent echo]

both eat so much peril;

[severe folio]

just blow up

[potent echo]

in reality you will be quelling so much its not worth it

perhaps

[idle bay]

It always was 🙂

[severe folio]

no it wasnt always

[quasi junco]

surge with battle meditation is ok

[potent echo]

but but

surge DD

surge DD real

[severe folio]

surge receive weakspot benefit now ?

[potent echo]

they can still hit heads randomly

and yes it still gets orange number extra damage

#psyker-class message

[severe folio]

but does it actaully do extra damage

[potent echo]

yes

[idle bay]

Thing is that surge attack have multiple ticks and one of the low ticks may proc weakspot instead of strong final tick.

[severe folio]

i see

[bronze hound]

Does anyone have a good build for surge staff now that is back?

[severe folio]

i guess its time to ride the lightning

[idle bay]

But when it's final tick crit+weakspot....

[potent echo]

also the low ticks can proc true aim too

lmao

[digital narwhal]

So, anyone mind sharing a decent Surge build with me?

[potent echo]

uh

[sinful olive]

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/2235535765177215344/B62270D0720EA8E84C59E721EE91E47D7A479549/

[orchid nest]

I did very limited testing but it seemed like consuming true aim with surge always made the last big tick crit

[sinful olive]

from the psyker atheneum.

actually, it's almost the exact same build that I prefer to run with voidstrike

[severe folio]

DD surge time is here

[plucky flax]

Why true aim whyyyy

You're not really gonna meme switch with smite and surge.

Surge by itslf already have huge crit chance.

[sinful olive]

yeah not sure about that one

[idle bay]

There are never enough crits! 🙂

[potent echo]

holy

shit

[orchid nest]

yeah I'm not gonna run true aim actually but it is funny at least

[potent echo]

true aim surge is

super strong

[sinful olive]

I have the least experience with surge admittedly

but I'm bout to build one

[plucky flax]

My surge build. I use illisi for melee

[sinful olive]

didn't want to bother till the goofy ass stuff with EP was sorted/targeting bug was fixed

that and I really disliked old surge

[glossy ember]

isn't it supposed to be aesthetical only

[plucky flax]

Oh Boodendorf mate you're happy now surge is back with a vengence.

I'mma play some surge tonight.

[idle bay]

I started to ditch Perfect timing and previous node for Empathic dodge and 10% quell chance. Survivability is fine...

[potent echo]

true aim with surge, the low ticks will build true aim, but will never proc true aim, if you are lucky you can get 1 extra true aim crit every 4 shocks

[plucky flax]

Perfect timing is a damage increase and I like damage increase. 😦

The dodge is also really good. I would remove 6 warp charges for that.

But 6 warp charges also give damage.

[warm ledge]

What's the difference with Auric level and standard?

[idle bay]

I too... but at some point i either ditch it or take it back.

[quasi junco]

Auric has trash rewards

[plucky flax]

I haven't played surge since patch 15. I need to play a few rounds to see how it goes.

[glossy ember]

dab on em

[glossy ember]

y e s

[ruby meadow]

Auric Damnation gives same plasteel/diamantine rewards but more Ordos/XP(lol)

[plucky flax]

If I struggle against shooters I'll go 1s dodge on crit.

[orchid nest]

seems like just surging this plague ogryn now is higher dps than BB

[digital narwhal]

I wish Warp Siphon wasn't so expensive to build into

[glossy ember]

wait what

[orchid shadow]

I tried it last night with the dodge talent. I couldn't even tell that if I was just in good positioning and dodging right or if it saved me when I came out of fights unscathed.. Psykers version of survivorship bias.

[orchid nest]

yeah whatever was reducing surge damage against monstrosities before no longer seems to be a thing. it just does its normal unyielding damage now

[glossy ember]

wait

surge top tier boss staff suddenly

[crimson remnant]

So surge is pretty good now,
Good to know

[plucky flax]

It's a must pick for assail with true aim because you constantly critting. For surge sure you crit a lot but Idk, you also kill shooters super fast. And I always run creeping flame. With surge you build peril super quick so I just get to 83+ and press f.

Shooters pack tend to die after.

[limber tartan]

Soo surge now does normal damage

[proven dagger]

Surge was really good before, too
Well, except for the last few days when it wasn't

[potent echo]

i realised one quirk with this, it still hits limbs, like dreg gunner, so you might get unarmored hitzone

[orchid nest]

yeah I can hit them for 1200 non crit with perfect aim stacks and this test staff that has tier 3 unyielding. on the high end of the damage variance roll

[potent echo]

so if you dont have +unarmored its still a nerf

[viscid matrix]

yay

[glossy ember]

wait

[potent echo]

yea lmao

[glossy ember]

this is a rollercoaster of emotions

[plucky flax]

I'm testing this.

[glossy ember]

swear to god

if we have to run unarmoured

[summer prairie]

perfect grenade cancel surge is maybe 850 boss dps without unyielding

[glossy ember]

[potent echo]

i jjust realised i cant oneshot dreg gunners consistently

[proven dagger]

Oh please no

[potent echo]

because hit arms

[glossy ember]

it's over.

[proven dagger]

I thought it's normalised now? Fatshark, what is happening?

[viscid matrix]

https://imgur.com/a/DqmYpV1//layout/grid

all the important enemies have either Flak, Carapace, Maniac or Unyielding anyway

[summer prairie]

it always had some variance

[orchid nest]

this is pretty good actually (for psykers pathetic boss damage), like higher than bb with kinetic resonance if I remember right

over a long period

[glossy ember]

yes but the ones you want to one shot have unarmoured

shotgunners, dreg gunner

[viscid matrix]

they are flak or maniac