psyker-class

[ornate hamlet]

wait no

uh

damage numbers outside of the psykhanium is a mod

[bitter sky]

ohh okay

[undone carbon]

the mod's Healthbars

[hasty pier]

that is the ONLY investigation mission in the game

[deft osprey]

Is blazing spirit worth it on trauma staff?

[hasty pier]

its fantastic

deletes almost anything at critical mass

[supple skiff]

another failed standard damnation, anoter 3 lock of cross play

[desert mirage]

for a curio I have a 20% health one with 20% gunner resist, and a slot for another perk on it

what do I slap there

[supple skiff]

[hasty pier]

dockets

[deft osprey]

Alright then I'll keep it on my staff then

[hasty pier]

its a drug lol

I hope you can quell cancel

[desert mirage]

I have 20% health, 1 wound, and 15% toughness as curios

[steel flame]

Once you get comfortable enough you can graduate to no wound curios

[bold maple]

mk v sword lowkey kinda good

[plucky token]

Fix Surge Staff god dammit

[obtuse moth]

it would be worth on voidstrike if nexus surge wasnt so cracked

[hasty pier]

my damnation runs in a nutshell

[foggy breach]

buy for the blessing?

[worldly iron]

got this on Auric modified by Hadron, is this good?
(Blessings ok?)

[hasty pier]

does auric drop better items?

[crude trout]

iirc only more dockets

[worldly iron]

Just more money

But I heard you get better gear on Auric with Mutations

Just "Better RNG"

but yeah

Is the Staff Good?

[hard solstice]

overall a pretty good roll, but surge staff is currently bugged and going to feel pretty bad because of it

[desert mirage]

I saw a psyker with a cape just now, how on earth do you get that

[tawny kernel]

how does one make smite good? I just feel like I'm tickling the enemy

[marble ravine]

empowered psyonics

[hard solstice]

the psyker cape is from a penance that involves brain bursting disablers before they get a chance to disable you or teammates. And as for making brain burst work, it's only felt decent for me if you use empowered psionics with it

[foggy breach]

wait we have a cape?

[marble ravine]

https://tenor.com/view/no-capes-gif-8052678

[hard solstice]

also the talent to randomly brain burst enemies at 10% chance is kinda of mediocre at best. If it only popped on elites / specials and above, it might be better, but at a 15 second cooldown, it's just useless 90% of the time cause it's going to pop on some stupid poxwalker and be a waste

[desert mirage]

thats on a cooldown? wtf

[dark spoke]

that double BB though

[hard solstice]

at 10% chance, on something as "slow firing" as brain burst, not worth it. That's one in 10 brain bursts that might be a double, definitely not something reliable you can count on

[desert mirage]

it works well with purgatus

[dark spoke]

absolutely, I agree its bad... but its so nice when it happens

[hard solstice]

purgatus is definitely the best use case for the talent, but it still suffers from being used up on trash enemies 90% of the time. A random poxwalker doesn't need to be brain burst, its gonna die to your soulflame almost immediately

[desert mirage]

saves a talent point i can use elsewhere

[hard solstice]

exactly, almost any other talent node gives you more value

[desert mirage]

are there any killer BB Purgatus builds

[urban sandal]

yo I'm new to psyker n want to use trauma/dclaw/bb n was curious if that's even viable or at least good for higher difficulties

[worldly iron]

really? how bugged

[hard solstice]

Just run all the standard soulblaze enabling talents, shriek for ability, and empowered psionics to make brain burst usable. Other stuff is personal preference I'd say. Bonus points, at least imo, if you can also build a Shred + Blazing piety Illisi force sword, as it stays on theme and lets you spread soulflame while mowing down hordes in melee too. But many will say force sword bad, use dueling sword instead, etc so up to preference

[desert mirage]

I dont really use BB in all honesty

[tulip trench]

everything is viable in this game tbh, awareness and skill is what defines wins losses it seems
but my understanding is dclaw is not great. dueling or force sword are the top

[hard solstice]

it apparently used to only target chest body part of enemies, but now is targetting random enemy body parts, resulting in overall less damage when it targets limbs and whatnot

[tulip trench]

if doing BB though, empowered psionics is key. otherwise its painful to use at higher levels. a revolver kills crushers faster than BB with no warp charges

[desert mirage]

https://youtu.be/CyI9kyQiS2Q I know some folks dont like this dude but its the only vid I can see of this build anywhere

[hasty pier]

now hopefully hadron doesn't fuck this one up

[hard solstice]

I want to try this build, but given that it revolves around smite being bugged to randomly hit headshots, I'm afraid fartshart just gonna bugfix and thus disable the build

[hard solstice]

no promises

[worldly iron]

Goddamnit

[desert mirage]

does the charge rate ruin this

or is this workable

[hard solstice]

voidstrike already takes awhile to charge, so that may not feel to great

[desert mirage]

1.76s

[fluid ether]

Man's using voidstrike in the middle of a horde

[desert mirage]

and the max is only 1.65s

[worthy temple]

So im new and going smite and shriek with dueling sword what secondary weapon ?

[desert mirage]

yoooo

and if i remember rightly, i can use perks from any mk of dueling sword right?

[ornate hamlet]

The perks are the same for all melee weapons, and you can use blessings you have unlocked for and from any dueling sword

[desert mirage]

was thinking of buying this melk sword that has precog IV on it

then slapping that onto this new sword

[ornate hamlet]

I don't like precog, but some people do

[desert mirage]

https://youtu.be/wrG19jMCARQ

[tame venture]

I am quite annoyed. i just finished a mission and the contract hasn't changed from 13/16, despite getting all 3 scriptures

[foggy breach]

purg moment

[hard solstice]

i had a teammate say earlier he also had this issue, so it may be bugged and best ro replace scrip/grim contracts for now

[tame venture]

frig

welp

got "do 1 mission with no deaths"

[urban sandal]

yeah it's bugged, mine was stuck on 0 n I had to replace it

[desert mirage]

Yoo rampage IV 👀

[desert mirage]

what would be preffered over precog?

[ornate hamlet]

I take shred because then I can do all the push-and-dodge-whenever thing

[desert mirage]

dont think I have that blessing unlocked yet

[placid crypt]

Here's a fun fact, Smite is proccing weakspot hits which in turn can set up the True Aim passive. Useful on voidstrike/trauma for triggering crits easily

[tame venture]

5 can't be the limit for loadout slots, can it?

[desert mirage]

would uncanny be worth it?

Uncanny with Rampage IV

[fading iris]

easier than the grimoure/scripture

even more because is death, not going down, so if nobody gets finished, is easy money

[lone yarrow]

smite and surge both hitting random limbs?

[fading iris]

Yes

for smite is ok, for surge is oof until gets fixed

[lone yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/chefs-kiss-french-chef-perfect-dish-excellent-food-perfection-gif-20341505

i love doing 300dmg with my surge staff wdym

[fading iris]

best part is that supposed to be a cosmetic change only

[ornate hamlet]

uncanny strike is awesome

[fading iris]

for instead of always full blowing up the heretic, you could just blow a limb, just the head, all that good grimdark stuff

[lethal lagoon]

Geniunally shocked people don't reroll that

[ornate hamlet]

To me it's always kill X enemies, get crafting materials and that's it

[fresh reef]

Heresy is such a honk shoo difficulty

[snow dust]

full charge and partial charge surge staff doesn't seem to do anything different (.-.)

[ornate hamlet]

no completed missions or pickups

[fresh reef]

only time I'm taking damage is when I'm falling asleep at my keyboard lol

[tame venture]

i had two characters get it, wanted to try doing it since they were 700 each, but i rerolled the other charecters

[desert mirage]

Ill try and get that to put on my rampage IV

[stable silo]

worst ones are the grims the complete games without player deaths and the counter gameplay to enemy kills aka 1000 ranged kills as zealot because cmon i wanna swing sword

[worthy dune]

So if assail can crit when they gonna let charged smite proc enfeeble?

[ornate hamlet]

doesn't it?

I thought it was kinda supposed to

[desert mirage]

you lot are right though, the second i start loading into level 4/5's its so much easier as the players seem to know what they are doing

[fading iris]

My go to is always this since my plan is to do on the 4 characters (current 3)

[ornate hamlet]

Honestly, it's like when I farmed items in Remnant

I did it on nightmare (3rd difficulty) because just doing it as fast as possible on normal or hard was just boring

And my point wasn't to get the item, it was to have fun getting the item

[lethal lagoon]

Same, but if I'm low on time I'll reroll the 8 missions to an appicable enemy kill one depending on the char.

[ornate hamlet]

I'd sooner take several failed missions trying to get plasteel over doing a handful of boring ones that I can do with my monitor off

Which funnily would put me on the same ground as the other 3 players

[fading iris]

yeah, but when I play Remnant I'm crazy, darktide I'm... crazy too but a little less

[worthy dune]

What should I replace precog with? Deflector, shred or unstable?

[fading iris]

even more after getting the tranquil heart on Remnant 2

[worthy dune]

nope, only left click does

[ornate hamlet]

I'd go uncanny tbh

[lethal lagoon]

I like uncanny too

[ornate hamlet]

Slaughterer handles the hordes, uncanny handles some of that and the carapace assholes

And you can probably slap carapace on the second perk because of that too

Since between slaughterer and uncanny, I don't think you'll have trouble with flak anytime soon

[worthy dune]

I see

But yes when will charge smite proc enfeeble I want my dmg smite build to work better smh

[ornate hamlet]

The only problem with uncanny is that it doesn't affect unarmored, so the new gunner spawns are one thing in favour of unarmored

And also because dreg bruisers have unarmored weakspots, but those are details and they die relatively fast

[tame venture]

i really like these contracts, but man does it pull on my sensibilites

gives me FOMO and all that

[tulip trench]

this worth investing in? its deimos...

[fresh reef]

honk mimimi

never playing heresy again

[worthy dune]

Just let us pay extra dockets to pick our fuckin weeklies when we reroll

[tame venture]

even better

let us pay dockets to gain plasteel

[foggy breach]

mods

[tame venture]

oh, extended slots is a modded thing then i guess?

tbh i feel a bit wary about modding, because i can't wrap my head around the process

though i've done it for other games

[worthy dune]

OR LET US PAY DIA

[river stirrup]

anyone still using the purg staff in auric ?

[distant roost]

ive seen it

[wooden wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/191040046407745536/1175308766493823006/image.png?ex=656ac296&is=65584d96&hm=5ef728e8e84e1e3db47b51cc57969b361fca07dff61aef27c518eb71815288de&

but why

[river stirrup]

I don't know if I'm just unlucky, but it must be 10 games in a row now (since I wanted to play a purg build again) that I've only come across teams of idiots incapable of quickly managing enemies at range.... 😦

[distant roost]

hence why you run it with something capable of picking range

[river stirrup]

I'm running smite because no CC with random tagged auric = wipe

[next heart]

am i crazy or is warp battery bugged

[tulip trench]

Terrifying barrage good on purge staff?

and focused channeling?

[fading iris]

purge already has that

[tulip trench]

intrinsicly?

[fading iris]

Terrifying barrage is pratically an filler blessing

[fading iris]

yes

[tulip trench]

ok

also

hows the other infantry autogun fair against columnus?
cause..

[fading iris]

a lot of stuff already makes the herectics terrified... ++ as they should ++

that you will have to ask the gunsykers

[tulip trench]

also, what should i change?

[runic hornet]

it's time.

[toxic forge]

What should I change on this

[fresh reef]

I hate to say that this build is actually effective

[umbral helm]

been having a lot of missions lately where the enemy combo it likes to send is mutant into silent poxburster or two that just kinda lurked behind it until the mutant is in front of you and charging, making you have to react super quick to a lot of things

[severe folio]

I FUKIN LOVE 3 BOMBERS

WHO DOESNT LOVE 3 BOMBERS

[umbral helm]

alternatively, trapper into poxburster leaping through it firing the net

[severe folio]

fatshark is the best Ai Director maker ever

maybe im just burning out on darktide

[fading iris]

You get a bomber, you get a bomber, everybody gets a bomber!

[severe folio]

the more i play the less i found myself enjoying

[fading iris]

you probably are

[severe folio]

or maybe

theres just too many bombers

is there too many bombers ?

[fading iris]

sounds like a burnout to me.

look at the brightside, you can keep playing

or you can just take some days off

[umbral helm]

we were carrying a friend who's in the lower twenties through some higher tier stuff earlier and, can definitely say they weren't lying about the director ramping difficulty up faster. some missions were just a lot of bombers. others, lots of trappers. an excessive amount, sometimes.

[copper nymph]

So what I've noticed is, if you have the psyker bubble and the perk that lets you block with peril, when the bubble gets shot it counts as 'blocking' for that perk. Is this normal or what.

[fading iris]

I'm getting some weird ramping ups on normal missions

they even got a newbie to quit, boi was having trouble from start to finish, and looked like a bot that was trained on controller

[severe folio]

just receive 10000 burster lol

on a heresy

[umbral helm]

honestly, I think an adjustment they've made aside from the special enemies spawning more is they've also just made it so there's more chaff, in general. some sections it was just a constant flow of trash mobs to cleave through

only way forward was to cut through

it was kinda nice because the build I was running has an illisi that kinda just lets me press left click into a crowd with the occasional dodge or shove and I'm fine, so I got to turn my brain off a little at those points

but it was nonetheless noticable

[severe folio]

too bad i wasnt running illisi

unless they promote the game to restrict optimal arsenal

which they would never

unless they are as stupid as a frog

[umbral helm]

I operate more on feel, than anything

numbers don't matter if it doesn't feel right

[fresh reef]

sigh

[tulip trench]

alright, i need some help here

[tulip trench]

i wish perks on right were on left sigh

[umbral helm]

I dunno what it is but every player named some variation of Saltzpyre has always been ass

every mission I've ever done

[fresh reef]

"look guys I played Vermintide, that means I'm good at this game "

[umbral helm]

name just attracts a certain kind of person

[potent echo]

played vermintide on veteran

[plucky flax]

[devout belfry]

Ugh, tried the surge staff for this patch. Yikes.

It was worse than I heard.

[plucky flax]

Aye wait for the fix.

[strong gulch]

Surge has always been my favorite staff. I am really looking forward to it being fixed.

I'm enjoying playing other things tho.

[plucky flax]

Sometimes I just want to chill with surge cos trauma is a lot more intensive.

[strong gulch]

For sure. I sometimes feel like I am lifting myself out of my chair when I play trauma.

[fresh reef]

the corrugated stairs

they haunt me

they haunt my dreams

[strong gulch]

the final boss

grated floor will consume your trauma and bubble shield.

[plucky flax]

Imagine they release a map with only that. No solid floor.

Rip trauma users.

[strong gulch]

oh no

[fresh reef]

soon enough I'll have to account for wind resistance with the damn thing

[visual adder]

Potato 🥔

[strong gulch]

Earlier I jump scared myself with trauma because of lag. I did a RMB and half a second later it goes off.

I was like wtf is that?? Oh...

[fading iris]

best part of trauma staff is that you can see the panic on the sibling when they use RMB

[foggy breach]

this good?

[vast oasis]

its a sword

[severe folio]

it looks promising

[spice oar]

So like, hypothetically, how much dmg does our self destruct do?

[severe folio]

finess is a bit low

[spice oar]

They butchered it, and of course it affects smite aswell cause it seems to be the same code, to add to the pain

[potent echo]

smite change is actually a buff lol

[spice oar]

Is it?

Ill use it either way I just want the lightnjng blast explosion gib to be guaranteed so I can see a horde blow up

[fading iris]

for Smite is cool because of the quantity for true aim you can achieve on it

[potent echo]

because you can activate true aim lol

[fading iris]

for Surge in the other hand...

[spice oar]

Oh, well that's neat, that does mean ture aim can be wasted on it tho right? Meaning I have to watch the meter?

[fading iris]

Fire and forget if you want

it depends if you're on the mix-max moment or the chill moment

[exotic tulip]

Pretty sure I died to a daemonhost through my block

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[exotic tulip]

Full stamina, 70% toughness or so, and no peril with kinetic deflector.

It just decided to stop hitting me for 6% peril and just kill me

[fading iris]

that was an daemon slap

[exotic tulip]

I assume it had something to do with me block attacking some dogs earlier

[fading iris]

like the Daemon stopped, charged the slap and sent you to the Emperor's light

[exotic tulip]

It used skyrim combat system and broke my block

Never listen to the zealot who wants to kill the daemonhost
"because its a heretic"

[fading iris]

"F you in particular!" -Said the Daemonhost calmly to you

[exotic tulip]

It started giving someone else the choke but thankfully they killed it before it got 2 people.

on malice (everyone was level 30)

[near wyvern]

Haven't updated the build section yet (says it so in the latest updates in the README), so will be gone soon ™️ when I have time to update the example builds

[idle bay]

It's hillarious how Smite can be used to charge True Aim to then use if for Void's Blazing Spirit+Surge blessing for double crits....

Good thing came out of the "cosmetic" rework

If Smite remains like that - he have a cheesy combo on our hands 🙂

One-Shotting Crusher

[strong gulch]

Brunt... why you do dis??

[idle bay]

He is a sevitor under Hadron command... so

[strong gulch]

mad

[idle bay]

Still need to finish weekly on my zealot - least njoyable character. Guns are boring on him.. meh , crusher shock club thing fun.. but with meh guns it's not that fun.

[strong gulch]

I believe in you.

One day, I may level a zealot

[idle bay]

Melk this week gone NUTS! I spent 15000 melk tokens this week on GOOD .. actually GOOD weapons!

So i need to re-build my reserves

[strong gulch]

Oh wow. Congrats!!

[fading iris]

gg on Ser Sire Melk being good with you

[ornate hamlet]

I want to play Psyker but keep dying on Sedition level missions.

real

[harsh urchin]

Run more wounds

On curios

[frail sand]

run martyrdom psyker

[idle bay]

Focus on improving you defenses, Curios will not help unless you learn do dodge, block and keep awareness of situation.
Headset with decent ditrectional sound is you best friend. Audio cues are really helpful for your survival.

[half iron]

be a real psyker. explode a lot.

[frail sand]

also look around often, audio sometimes is borked and enemies can be silent

i've had massive hordes behind me in melee distance with absolutely zero sound cues

[idle bay]

That's why you don't jusck always check back but also dodge ..sometimes because you feel like it to hear that "swoosh" sound and find ranger humping your leg

[near wyvern]

He mistook it for a void

[fresh reef]

holy fuck that was intense

[strong gulch]

true

[fresh reef]

Reminder that Brunt is an ogryn

the servitors just handle the transactional work

[strong gulch]

Leveled my first columnus. Too bad about the stability.

[severe folio]

i just play half a whole mission where my guns and sword just vanish

cant aim

cant melee

switched to third person mod to save myself lol

(and assail)

[strong gulch]

What a fecked bug. what the heck.

[plucky flax]

Bruh I keep getting out of memory crashes.

FS fix it ffs.

[near wyvern]

You using mods? Devs said like 99.5% of memory crashes are from using mods

[lunar sandal]

is force staff any good now?

[near wyvern]

That being said I do use mods but have had no memory crashes

[near wyvern]

Which one?

[plucky flax]

It seems to be related to inventory.

I seem to mostly crash when in the inventory.

[lusty mauve]

To people who have played Ogryn and Psyker, what do you find more fun? I have zealot and a veteran and i am thinking of what to make next

[fading iris]

yes

[near wyvern]

Ogryn is easier to play more effectively and has a lot easier time levelling.

I main Psyker cause Psykers are just so damn versatile and have many builds with none or very little weaknesses, but they come at the cost of being paper. You can only afford 1 or 2 mistakes before you need a health station.

[sterile hatch]

Hey guys can someone tell me if different mk versions of weapons share blessing unlocks?

[near wyvern]

Yes, this is the case for all weapons except force staves

[lusty mauve]

More paper the veteran i assume?

[sterile hatch]

Cheers for the info mate

[near wyvern]

Yes but you do have better active defence. If you know what you are doing you are even more tanky than an ogryn.

[lunar sandal]

Psyker is fun but so squishy
Sometimes people don't take care of the burster on the other side and I lose more health bars even though I'm further

[limber tartan]

Yea, bursters hurt, but for psykers ? they HURT

Too many people shoot them when they're close, specialy on AM where its basically a down if it explodes near a psyker

[fresh reef]

Yes, good

Become one with no keystones

Join us in the realm of 200/200

(I say us like I've seen literally anyone else have as much ehp)

[limber tartan]

I will do soo when fatshark gives us a shotgun

[feral seal]

Shotgun staff

[fresh reef]

Or shotgun equivalent

Bolt staff M1 my beloved

[limber tartan]

or a magic shotgun

[orchid shadow]

We used to have one in beta if I recall correctly.

[lethal lagoon]

normal t5 maelstroms are supposed to be easier than auric ones, right, even if it's the same description?

I noticed auric t5 hi-ints, even without anything else, are harder than normal t5 hi-ints too.

Just based on scoreboard damage and stuff and the actual experience too

[plucky flax]

Auric is always high intensity.

Normal maelstrom has the goofy modifier but it might not have high intensity.

So less spawns over all.

[lethal lagoon]

So normal maelstrom is definitely supposed to be easier.

[severe folio]

melta staff

[near wyvern]

Yes

[lethal lagoon]

But I've noticed normal t5 hi-ints are easier than auric t5 hi-ints, exact same modifer as far as I can tell

[limber tartan]

That's just the ai director

[lethal lagoon]

I understand why it would be easier, my question is it a feature, a bug, or in my head.

[near wyvern]

If you run smite with all soulblaze talents the game gets easier the higher you go with the difficulty

[lethal lagoon]

Especially on the new map

all those juicy chokepoints

[viscid matrix]

It’s mostly the ai, it’s less overwhelming horde from 1 direction in auric and more constant from every direction and it’s easier for a single person to handle a single direction as long as the others are doing thier part

[severe folio]

my ⚡ psyker cannot use surge at the moment

any recommend alternative

to play with smite

guns ?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge anyways 🙂

[viscid matrix]

You can use surge, it’s viable in Aurics

[limber tartan]

I am biased towards guns soo i will always say guns

[viscid matrix]

Surge can still 3 or 4 shot crushers

[amber nest]

I just made a Trauma staff for my dome build and use that instead of surge

[lethal lagoon]

Bugged surge(and smite)

[strong gulch]

smite + creeping flames + revolver is working pretty well for me

[severe folio]

i mean

[lethal lagoon]

^ I like that too

[severe folio]

with the current bug ?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge and revolver fit a similar role of anti-range

Yes

[severe folio]

still usable surge ?

interesting

[viscid matrix]

Surge still does like 1k damage to a crusher

Crusher only has 3k

[strong gulch]

Especially on the now map.

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma isn't a good replacement cause Surge is amazing with smite, but Trauma has too much overlap with smite.

Trauma great on it's own though

[amber nest]

I don't use smite though

So I guess that's why

[lethal lagoon]

He asked about smite though 🤷‍♂️

[amber nest]

I have BB for long range threats

[strong gulch]

Surge is still usable, but it's like gambling.

[viscid matrix]

Bb is in a bad place, generally you are between off with anything else

[amber nest]

Eh, I like being able to spam it while spamming dome shields. May not be meta but gets the job done

[lethal lagoon]

Dome definitely isn't meta, but it's so comfy.

With BB

[strong gulch]

I think separate convos are happening at the same time. I could be wrong tho.

[viscid matrix]

What exactly did they do to surge that makes you say that
It’s damage was pretty consistant, just crit and non crit

[severe folio]

does enfeeble linger on enemies after you smite them

[amber nest]

Surge can now hit limbs

[viscid matrix]

No, only while it’s active

[severe folio]

ok

[amber nest]

Limb hits do way less damage

[lethal lagoon]

Did you test that in the psych? Cause it looks like they have little static tingles after smite for a bit.

[severe folio]

oh smite can also hit limb now can it

[viscid matrix]

Before it only hit chest, tbh sounds good if you can aim for heads with it

[amber nest]

It's kinda random

[lethal lagoon]

it "weakspots" but doesn't give weakspot damage.

[severe folio]

yeah but like, it doesnt do extra weakspot damage

so the headshot dont give headshot damage

are you sure that surge is still fine this patch lol

have you been using it ?

[viscid matrix]

Okay so it’s damage hasn’t changed except for reapers with flak arms

[amber nest]

Its damage has changed

[severe folio]

did you not hear what we just said

[amber nest]

You're getting reduced damage when hitting limbs

[strong gulch]

Don't get me wrong, it's very usuable.

Right now tho, surge staff hits random body parts. A lot of the time it's a limb that has reduced damage.

So you could kill a flamer in 1 - 4 full charges. Or not get the trapper on a full charge.

[severe folio]

it has a chance to deal less damage

[viscid matrix]

Ohh, okay nvm

[limber tartan]

Wait a minute

Surge would only hit weakspots before the patch ?

[viscid matrix]

It’s mediocre and worst staff until that’s fixed

[lethal lagoon]

I mean I can still top frag with bugged surge, but I doubt I could top frag if my friends got back on. Pubs are a different breed.

[viscid matrix]

Only hit chest

[limber tartan]

Oh

[lethal lagoon]

So usable 🤷‍♂️

[limber tartan]

I was gonna loose my shit for a moment here if that was the truth

[viscid matrix]

Tbh they should make it weakspot and fix weakspot damage

[lethal lagoon]

I'd rather not use a slot machine as a staff, even if it'd be kind of funny.

[severe folio]

okay so

[limber tartan]

If it hit only weakspots and had the high crit you would just couple it with dd and quite literally one shot everything

[severe folio]

i just had to 3 shot a hound

i think im gonna have to stay away from surge till they fix it

[lethal lagoon]

Embrace the bug.

And then when they fix it, you'll rise more powerful than before

[severe folio]

too bad it doesnt huh

[near wyvern]

Except you have no control over the targetting. It's a uniform chance for each targettable part so on reapers and crushers you get especially fucked as they have more parts that can be hit.

[strong gulch]

RMB wouldn't hit weakspots, but it was consistent on where it hit. If you look at the info on the different armor types of enemies, it would hit where flak usually is. It looks like it might hit the chest, but I think it would hit the pelvis.

Edit to add that idk if it's different for some enemies.

[limber tartan]

No im fine with that, the amount of value it would give for basically no effort would be soo brain dead

[severe folio]

the worst thing of all of this

is that

they remove the chance of getting that poppy effect with lightning

when enemies die

[limber tartan]

That would be half of the fun if i did use surge

[fading iris]

which is funny because that was the idea from the beginning

[severe folio]

very sad

now we just got

random head flying up without any sound

who was the one that decide this was a better idea

very idiotic

very stupid

10/10

-10/10

common shatfart L

[limber tartan]

I think it would be fun if it exploded random parts of enemy bodies or the whole bodies them selfs at random

[fading iris]

that is the idea

[severe folio]

apparently its suppose to do that

but it seem like they forgot the satisfying pop sound

man this whole patch is a massive L

cant enjoy the carnival at all

[strong gulch]

Imagine exploding body parts before the enemy dies.

Reaper missing a leg. Rager missing an arm.

[amber nest]

Rager missing 2 arms

[limber tartan]

Ragers would probably swing at you

With whatever is left

and then die

Like a last desperate attack not realising they're already dead

[fading iris]

the plan was: you keep lightning where always was, buuuut instead of always big booms, you can get other kinds of booms, just cosmetic, but for whatever reason(which enforces the idea of is damage control of a bad decision) the person coding the cosmetic change decided to be quirky and code as damage

[strong gulch]

Headbutts from ragers sound awful tbh. All toughness would probably be dumped.

[amber nest]

I mean, they're nurgle ragers. They can probably survive missing 2 arms

[strong gulch]

and smite getting the same thing because they are "totally different" from each other.

[dusk vigil]

Rager missing 2 arms and 2 legs still trying to kill you like the Black Knight in Monty Python and the Holy Grail

[fading iris]

Grandfather Nurgle let's you miss a lot of stuff... or create a bunch of new stuff in your body, best of both worlds

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/triggerfav-kick-flesh-wound-gif-13424530

Rager torso inching its way over.

[dusk vigil]

Which sword to use?

Got a third I can pull Uncanny Strike from for the right one

[fading iris]

I mean, making two things call the same part isn't bad, is even good for optimization, and well, the RMB is called "staff-bound smite" a.k.a. better name is surge smite, that only turns into a problem when you keep kraking up on the changes

[severe folio]

both a re kinda bad

[dusk vigil]

Bad blessings?

[arctic nimbus]

Up unstable or replace carapace?

[ionic dune]

Psyker's starting to warm on me

[strong gulch]

Test in the meat grinder to see is either can one shot a mutant with the heavy 2. If one can, choose that.

If neither can, the right one seems overall better. Put uncanny + slaughter and maniac + flak.

[ionic dune]

Purgatus staff is pretty kino

[sour bison]

Try win+shift+s lmao

[arctic nimbus]

On Xbox

[plucky flax]

Purg users when they discover blaze trauma

[quick heron]

true

[ionic dune]

Blaze Trauma?

[severe folio]

i still prefer purg

[strong gulch]

Blazing spirit + warp nexus on trauma

[ionic dune]

Ahhh, ic ic.

[plucky flax]

More of everything but 'harder' to play.

[severe folio]

blaze trauma user when they discover purg

[idle aurora]

Usually it's the other way around, since purga is more user friendly

[ionic dune]

In what way? Only had Psyker maxed for a couple days, and whilst levelling I more or less exclusively used the Revolver, so I ain't too familiar with the nuances of the other staffs.

[plucky flax]

More damage, more cc, deal with crushers and bulwarks better. But you have to do the flick with the ground circle aiming.

[ionic dune]

"the flick"?

[timid pond]

Do y’all have any tips for the warp battery

[ionic dune]

Does moving it quickly as you srelease make it cover a wider area or somethin'?

[plucky flax]

Idk if other people do it but I do when i have to target something far away with trauma.

[fading iris]

I mean... the best CC is a revy shot exploding the brains of the heretic

[idle aurora]

"Harder" part comes from needing to aim it and for further distances you need to look towards the skies, but imo, a couple of games and its fine

[ionic dune]

I'm gonna presume the Trauma is akin to Sienna's ground AoE one from V2?

[night crater]

Yeah

[ionic dune]

Alright, groovey.

I get what you're saying now

[strong gulch]

I heard someone say that warp battery with the new tree has to be done with all 6 charges, bring fire, use In Fire Reborn, and choose a populated difficulty on a map with less waiting in an elevator.

[idle aurora]

I want new staffs, obese sushi pls

[plucky flax]

Purg vs blaze trauma

[idle aurora]

I love when a pack of ogryns is going towards the team and you just knock them over like toddlers

[strong gulch]

To be fair, you're and aggressive and quick player.

My slow ass would have the 300k damage with fire trauma next to you.

But also the damage diff is a lot.

[plucky flax]

I stole all of his warpfire damage.

[ionic dune]

Is the build relatively the same for Trauma Staff? Been running this (or loosely this, as I'm not on the game atm to check for sure) for Purge.

[plucky flax]

I like warp charges for increase damage.

I show my build at the beginning of the vid. You can adjust as you like but I recommend creeping flame shriek and warp charges.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4ba8PeeJL8

[severe folio]

would use warp siph for trauma

[night crater]

So, I want the headgears from blessed faith penance, but I think venting shriek sucks as an ability. Can anyone suggest a fun build?

[plucky flax]

The hard part is to get a decent staff though.

[severe folio]

would try blaze trauma if staff acquisition was easier

[strong gulch]

Shame about the perk and blessing. It looks really good otherwise.

I'd say change the blessing. Either to uncanny or increase unstable if you can keep your peril up.

[shadow onyx]

what should i change for my last tweak ?

[ionic dune]

Aye, no doubt. Only reason I'm using Purge is that I got a nice roll for it. 79-80 in all but Warp Resistance; not perfect, but got what I need where I need it y'know.

Had it happened for any other I'd no doubt be using that instead haha.

[dim parrot]

I would definitely change unstable to uncanny and u should be good

[plucky flax]

@strong gulch cheeky grate shot here (I timestamped)
https://youtu.be/S4ba8PeeJL8?t=1692

Xd

[ionic dune]

When playing with rando's I just feel like I'm making a mistake if I'm not running shield thus far tbh, so I usually try to make my builds accomodate for that.

Not played with a Shriek/Warp Charge setup though, so I may give that a crack if the right staff comes along.

[strong gulch]

Creeping flames is a modifier to venting shriek. It's quite strong. You can pair it with a lot of differnt things. Choose warp siphon cool down reduction and psykenetic's aura.

[plucky flax]

Use shield if you prefer but you'll lose out on damage of course. It's offensive vs defensive.

[strong gulch]

When the open slots aren't the enemy!! Praise this map.

[strong gulch]

Very much this. Once you get used to creeping flames, it's hard to give it up. It is defensive in its own way, but it is a lot more damage. You don't have to save it as much either.

I've been running bubble shield on the new map. Other than that, I use creeping flames on my builds except on my scrier's gaze builds.

[ionic dune]

I've not doubt it's good, I just tend to find that with randoms they tend to be a psychotic and having shield effectively serves as a means of corralling them to where I want them

[severe folio]

let them die and they either learn or gone

[ionic dune]

Aye, but that often leads to a mission fail and I ain't got time for that 🤷‍♂️ Were I more used to Darktide or Psyker I'd be more willing to cut my losses as it were

but I ain't, so I don't.

[severe folio]

you save them, they stuck around and they make more missions fail anyway

[ionic dune]

So long as it ain't mine 👍

[severe folio]

it will be yours

[ionic dune]

Alright chief 🫡

[viscid matrix]

very good attitude to have when going into randoms, it lets you force them where you want them, if they know what it is

[strong gulch]

If shield is additive to your experience, go with shield.

Plus, you can put a cup over the slug.

[plucky flax]

Hrm different philosophy. I always use self centric builds. Like on zealot I run loner stealth because they won't do objectives no matter what so I need the tools to do it myself.

[ionic dune]

For sure, for sure. I basically only run Infiltrate on Vet for the same reason.

Shouts nice and I do like using it at times, but I just can't trust others to handle some objective stuff or not get themselves killed doing so

so stealth + revive speed malarky basically covers any situation I get put in.

[idle aurora]

My favourite was when one teammate got down i ulted as relic zealot and walked towards him, did other 2 get him? Nope, time to kill stunned poxers

[plucky flax]

Or when you casting smite as psyker to make space for the down guy to get helped.

[severe folio]

this brunt roulette

sigh

[ionic dune]

Tbh you could just say "When you use smite to X" and chances are

people either won't hit the maulers/crushers being cc'd

or ignore the objective/downed ally when its just poxers

[idle aurora]

Just get millions of ordos 4Head

[plucky flax]

If you have the armoury exchange site you can just check brunt shop every hour instead. I don't like using the grey weapon scam. 😕

[severe folio]

shut up arthur

[half iron]

“too much thought. i must melee a burster or shoot one that a teammate just pushed.” -a pub, probably

[severe folio]

well the armory exchange isnt going to shit out a blaze trauma staff for me

[idle aurora]

and then don't forget to farm mats since hadron will brick things

[severe folio]

this crafting system is fuking horrible

[viscid matrix]

yes, but how else would FS keep us playing 😄

[severe folio]

i dont think this is keeping people playing

[wintry jackal]

anyone got auric dam trauma staff build

[severe folio]

because i know for sure this exact shitty shop is edging me a step away from just quitting this game

every single minute i engage with it

when did game develop into a fuking torture

should have never allow this trend to happen

[viscid matrix]

when Devs and their bosses(mainly bosses) realised that the best way to make money from their players is to get them ingame and playing as much as possible

[severe folio]

yeah well they arent doing a very good job at get players in game and play as much as possible is it

not a lot of directive directing towards "players in game" beside the carnival

[proven stirrup]

Be me
leveling ogryn
load up a heresy mission
Doing ok in the first wave thick with bulwarks and shotgunners
go down one flight of stairs
Firing ine of snipers, throwing rocks to thin them out.
Get dogged on. Saved. Get trapper'd before input returns. Saved after losing half my health. Crusher overhead downs me before input returns.

[plucky flax]

Right at the beginning of the vid.
#psyker-class message

[proven stirrup]

Not having a good time tonight

[severe folio]

yeah i dont think this patch is spelling "player in game"

not a lot of good experiences

[plucky flax]

I used to have 80k+ plasteels.

Now I have 8k.

And like maybe 2 or 3 decent weapons out of it.

I'd rather be with tzeentch than this hadron bitch.

[proven stirrup]

White weapons with high rolls are "decent" weapons

What you're fishing for is finished items

[limber tartan]

I have had issues with resources only once

But yes the current system is bad

There is no arguing that

[proven stirrup]

The system is fine, the resource grind is the problem

Like what do we actually want to change here?

[wintry jackal]

Thanks man! Earned a new subscriber for this!

[plucky flax]

Let us change 3 stats on a weapon and it's decent.

[urban sandal]

let us pay diamantine to unlock stats

always sitting on a shit load of diamantine n no plasteel

[proven stirrup]

Hmmmmm

[severe folio]

yeah im

[limber tartan]

How many stacks of soulblaze does tier IV Blazing spirit apply on melee weapons

[idle aurora]

At this point i would just remove locks and ask for mats for rerolls

[proven stirrup]

How about a middlepoint with that idea

[severe folio]

i dont think ill enjoy blaze trauma even if i acquire it

in this state of the game

fuk this

im outta here

fuk fat shark

[proven stirrup]

Plasteel costs go down and diamantine costs go up the more often you roll something on an item

[limber tartan]

Because i have a silly idea to modify my current crack speed monkey build

[proven stirrup]

You can uncap the number of changes and then softcap with material stores

AND solve the diamantine issue

I would still also like some way to directly spend Diamantine for...stuff... I'm not even sure what

[limber tartan]

Yea im gonna have to roll the dice becuase i need one blessing

I need specifically tier IV blazing spirit, i don't care if the force sword i get it on is awfull i only need the blessing

These numbers about to go down really fast

The plasteel that is, i will probably have like meaby 500 less diamantine

[strong gulch]

It's how I keep getting scammed out of my ordos.

[ionic dune]

What's the dump stat for Trauma staff? Quell Speed?

[plucky flax]

No real dump stat but warp resist as long as it's like 60 something.

[ionic dune]

Too poor for making any others right now, but I take it neither of these are quite there?

[plucky flax]

Go with the left and see what hadron will give you.

[strong gulch]

Hope hadron blessed you.

If you go into warp siphon, you can get away with some lower quell speed, but it's still not ideal.

[late yew]

Right is awful

left is ok

[strong gulch]

I've learned the hard way that when either 48 warp resist or quell speed on trauma is pain.

[late yew]

Wooaah

[plucky flax]

is a big chonky boi

[late yew]

gun psyker

[plucky flax]

Playing infantry autogun psyker waiting for surge fix

[late yew]

https://tenor.com/view/vomit-puke-ugh-gif-25512927

[mental grail]

Something something praise the omnissiah

🙏

[limber tartan]

If only there was a blessing for guns that applied soulfire

[late yew]

well there is infernus

close enough

[mental grail]

Nothing cooler than a psyker with a gun

[limber tartan]

Oh yea there is i forgot about it

[plucky flax]

Laspistol is too ammo intensive I feel bad stealing team's ammo.

Infantry autogun is more efficient.

[mental grail]

Surge got debugged and then unintentionally nerfed into the ground

We weep

[strong gulch]

we weep

[plucky flax]

[strong gulch]

The quickness that revolver takes things out tho feels nice.

[limber tartan]

Damn i don't have infernus for my laspistol

[strong gulch]

I pray you get it.

[limber tartan]

I want to know if soulflame is basically the same thing as blaze

And if soo then can you spread it the same way as you can with soulblaze

[toxic forge]

what should I change

[limber tartan]

I tried integrating soulblaze into my current build but i can only apply it on my deimos crits and elite/specialist kills which is not much

Because if normal burn can also be spread like soulblaze then that would significantly boost my current build

Im just counting that fatshark made the same mistake with burn and soulfire as they did with surge and smite

Either way i have never had infernus on laspistol soo it might be better than dumdum i don't know

[strong gulch]

Groaners to maniac.

Keep uncanny.

2nd blessing is more preference. Rampage makes hordes easier and can pump up damage but need to cleave 3 which armor or less that 2 targets stops. Shred is easy to stack up and maintain without compromising your position but takes more time to stack up than riposte. Riposte gets you the same crit bonus as shred right away with enough time to use some ranged to get the crit benefit, but it requires dodges which can be compromising.

[strong gulch]

Burn doesn't spread like soulblaze. Iirc it does more damage than soulblaze, but soulblaze can be more freely applied and from multiple sources.

[limber tartan]

Damn

[shell radish]

any build recs for the trauma III? Not really sure if I should be taking brainburst with it. Mostly run either purg or void

[strong gulch]

You also have to take talents that spreads soulblaze outside of inherent cleave from the weapon or ability applying the soulblaze.

Infernus is THE blessing for laspistol tho.

[limber tartan]

I have already been doing crazy damage with dumdum, soo i want to check out the results if i replace it with infernus

[late yew]

no

it is pretty useless

dum dum and raking

infernus does not bring any value on 90% of targets

[limber tartan]

because funny enough i have the literally same laspistol as i am using right now but it was not modified

[late yew]

no, do'nt replace it

[limber tartan]

I will do as i please

[late yew]

If you want to try it, replace second blessing

dum dum is best blessing for laspistol

NO, you will do as i please

😠

[limber tartan]

I will be the judge of that

I just simply need to get the blessing

[strong gulch]

There is a build for fire trauma here at the begining of @plucky flax 's video.

I personally like BR / BB with trauma. Mostly for a squirlly special, sniper, or monster.

[late yew]

also works well with true aim

[strong gulch]

put them together for monster damage.

[late yew]

guaranteed crit on trauma

[limber tartan]

I will try and check them out both

But as of right now i doubt i will replace my current laspistol with Reassuringly Accurate for one with both dumdum and infernus

[late yew]

what is that one

ag

absolute dogshit

way too unreliable

[limber tartan]

Reliable enough for me

[late yew]

Laspistol is not good weapon to use as primary

it is great say on zealot

[severe folio]

accidentally blew up ragers

[late yew]

since you spend most time in melee

[toxic forge]

Laspistol is good in general though

[late yew]

and you can draw laspistol to get quick special kills or ranged

So for psyker i think good combo would be with smite

everything else makes laspistol useless

[toxic forge]

Like every class can run laspistol and do well with it rn

[late yew]

not good against hordes

Not enough ammo

and for me personally, requires way too many clicks

[toxic forge]

I mean the only reason psyker shoots into horde is because staves dont use ammo lmao

no one else is shooting poxwalkers

[late yew]

wat

false

Vets do

Ogryns always do

jsut had game with pretty good vet

[severe folio]

because vets and orgyn are kind of fukin stupid

[late yew]

he was using autogun against hordes

[strong gulch]

On laspistol with infernus + dumdum and other parts of the build if interested.
#psyker-class message
#psyker-class message

The Antheneum in the pinned comments also has info on it and other options.

[late yew]

Also mixed hordes are tough for anyone but zealot to deal with in melee

And ogryn probably?

[late yew]

better have raking fire

[severe folio]

mix horde are not tough to my purg

[late yew]

you should unlock talent that allows to read

[strong gulch]

If you get behind enemy lines. Otherwise heck no.

[late yew]

You get more value from it than you would ever get from infernus

[limber tartan]

No idea how i would get my laspistol from 33% to to 45%, ican get it to 38%

[strong gulch]

Maybe you would. I and many others would not.

[limber tartan]

don't know where that 7% is coming from for the baseline

[severe folio]

purg is a melee staff

[late yew]

lol

[strong gulch]

There is a lot of stacking between base crit chance on psyker and weapon etc. I don't think it's needed to stack evey single thing, but it's nice if you can. Plus true aim does a lot of work.

[late yew]

[strong gulch]

bonks

[late yew]

staves are by definition not melee

[limber tartan]

Im gonna check that out

Since im already doing work with what i have, that would boost my efficiency by quite a lot

[toxic forge]

But why would an ogryn or vet shoot poxwalkers when they can melee just fine LOL

Jesus you'll never catch me shooting poxwalkers

[severe folio]

no one gonna use purg to shoot that gunner on the balcony

[limber tartan]

Pretty sure recon lasgun can penetrate targets

[severe folio]

if those penetrate target, i have never seen it

[strong gulch]

I'm picturing just throwing the whole staff like a javelin.

[limber tartan]

Soo i asume it is decent for hordes, but staffs are way better because of not having ammo and the fact that purge technically has infinite cleave because it just goes through everything in range

[severe folio]

except for bulwark shield

[limber tartan]

Fuck em

[severe folio]

cant do that if you cant fire through the shield

[toxic forge]

Recon Las can pen so that it's feasible to actually kill high priority targets

not so you can waste half your ammo bag on non threats

[strong gulch]

The LMB stagger being weaker now still makes me sad. Let us stagger crushers again.

[toxic forge]

wait for what

[late yew]

they do

[late yew]

just test it in psykenium

[severe folio]

dont have a recon

[late yew]

which =is why recon guns are decent against hordes

skill issue

[severe folio]

your mom had skill issue if you are here

[toxic forge]

So is literally every melee weapon tho lmao

[strong gulch]

Zazzy pairs assail with laspistol to help with ammo economy.

People used to say that it is ammo efficient, but the gun dumps ammo for me.

[plucky flax]

Agri infantry was okay. Columbus would have been stronger for sure.

[limber tartan]

Yea i tried assail too its fine to save on ammo

[plucky flax]

Only picked up 3 ammo didn't wanna steal too much.

[severe folio]

why not

they dont deserve the ammo

should take everything

[toxic forge]

Laspistol is only ammo efficient for Vets and for teams that have a vet, tbh

[strong gulch]

The purg LMB puff has a much stronger stagger than the RMB. It used to stagger crushers, but it doesn't anymore.

[toxic forge]

Ah yeah I remember now. I just never used purge early on in the game's life, just used all the others

(Since crafting wasnt in the game kekw)

[severe folio]

can still stagger ragers

and everything else

that isnt taller

[strong gulch]

true. Even revolver with no vet is better with ammo. Though, you point revolver at some something and it dies faster than with laspistol.

[toxic forge]

Well the downside to revolver is the reload + the reload not having a staged reloading state

not having Staged Reloading can really fuck you over on a revolver

But I guess I understand why that would be hard to code

Or, animate.

[plucky flax]

Revolver is really good aye but when it's like 10 ragers you want a rapid fire gun.

Which since patch 15 has been quite common.

The boys screaming and charging down at ya.

[late yew]

which is why smite is good with revolver

Just stun them all

let your team deal with it

[strong gulch]

true

OH. That reminds me. I forget what I was doing just spamming LMB smite, but you can blow yourself up if you're really aggressive with it.

Might have been lag related, but luckily I had shriek to keep me from blowing up.

[obtuse moth]

you can blow up with rmb spam too

[strong gulch]

oh no

good to know

[late yew]

I can't imagine when would you spam it like that

[strong gulch]

I was either being nonsensical or it was spicy; but also, why not both? 😂

[gritty silo]

best purgatus staff perks? I'm assuming the carapace 25% tier 4 perk, but not sure what else. Any help would be appreciated, thanks!

[limber tartan]

Generally you want to see what is the default damage against specific enemy and armor types and upgrade the highest 2

[strong gulch]

The Antheneum in the pinned comments has a bunch of info.

Perks are crit chance / flak / maniac
blessings are warp flurry + warp nexus.

[gritty silo]

Also, can the purgatus staff crit? I have a the warp nexus blessing (crit based on peril) and +10% ranged crit dmg perk. I was thinking changing those two.

[plucky flax]

All the ammo for me.

[gritty silo]

Ahh, okay.

[plucky flax]

Nvm 1 psyker left. Guess he didn't fancy that.

[strong gulch]

It crits a lot. Cirts make soulblaze stack faster.

[gritty silo]

This is what we got so far

[plush jacinth]

yo if i earn a T4 blessing on a staff it only unlocks it on that kind of staff, not all right?

[strong gulch]

Cool pants. You can gobble up ammo in style.

[gritty silo]

any staff with that blessing type, I think.

[plush jacinth]

oh

[strong gulch]

on that staff

only the same staffs share blessings.

[plush jacinth]

oh yeah i can see that T4 warp flurry is unlocked on my surge staff but can still be earned on my purgs

ty

[gritty silo]

Why flak/maniac over carapace with the flamer thrower staff, btw? It shows weakest dmg to carapace

And do you think wildfire is mandatory?

[strong gulch]

Blessings looking good. You're free to pick perks are you need or want.

If you are ever traying to min max, go for cloud radius 80 and burn 76+.

[plush jacinth]

yo rate this staff i bought from melk outta 5

[obtuse moth]

do NOT do carapace. crits do two stacks of burning instead of one. carapace is useless on purge staff

[gritty silo]

Understood

[strong gulch]

The damage is so poopoo against carapace that it's not worth investing in. Also where purg hits is going to be flak, maniac, or unyielding with the one exception being crushers.

[obtuse moth]

+25% of like 10 damage only gives you 2.5 more damage, 12.5 damage is still useless against carapace

[gritty silo]

i will put 5% crit there instead of 10% crit dmg then

[obtuse moth]

i pref unyielding since everything else dies, can be cc'd by purge or does basically nothing anyway

burning still caps at 15 stacks (assuming you have 76% burn) unless you crit on the last stack

[late yew]

crit damage is trash

crit chance is decent

[obtuse moth]

ye, crit damage is i think a useless perk on every single weapon

even the crit damage weapons

[late yew]

2

Just strip warp flurry

[strong gulch]

If you want to increase soulblaze damage on carapace, you're better off applying soulblaze then using melee with uncanny to rend the armor.

[obtuse moth]

3, you bought a t4 you didnt have and its a good one

[sour bison]

im ready for the next week

[obtuse moth]

actually a good melk purchase unlike most

[late yew]

I still can't find fuckn surge blessing for void

reeeee

[obtuse moth]

rip

thats the only thing i could get for 6+ months

[gritty silo]

Ok so we don't like warp flurry on purgatus?

[obtuse moth]

took me like 9 months to get a transfer peril 4, and it happened on my second psyker from melk

[toxic forge]

jfc lol

You guys dont just upgrade staves to blue and then dump them?

[obtuse moth]

warp flurry and nexus are BiS for purg

[late yew]

why you decided so

[obtuse moth]

you should upgrade 360 or 370+ staves to orange

[plush jacinth]

i used to

[gritty silo]

I misunderstood something that probably wasn't directed to me @late yew. All good now

[obtuse moth]

blue has a lower chance of high tier blessings

and its pointless to waste melk bucks, the most limited currency on weapons with low stats and low blessings. which is what most people do

[plush jacinth]

upgrading to blue all the time put me into a plasteel economic recession

[obtuse moth]

esp if you're asking for advice in the channel, you're probably very low on currencies

[gritty silo]

Therefore I'm back to basically only needing to swap the crit dmg off. I already have 25% to maniacs. What do yall think is the best other perk, unyielding or go with the 5% crit chance?

[plush jacinth]

just buy my blesses from melk now

[late yew]

lol

looool

[strong gulch]

If you are farming for a specific T4 blessing, you're better off taking it to orange.

If you are trying to level something to use and the perks and blessings are not what you want at blue or purple, your should stop.

[late yew]

Melk sells absolute dogshit 99% of the tikme

I have like 30k milky coins

I need plasteel

[obtuse moth]

ye, but people who are starting out need their coins to buy t4 blessings when they do show up

you can make rando orange or purple weapons ez

[toxic forge]

Do spawns feel fucked this patch to anyone else

specifically shock gauntlet spawns

[strong gulch]

My highest base stat weapon in melk shop is 346. Doodoo

[limber tartan]

Rough

[strong gulch]

There was something about the AI director getting more aggressive. I don't remember specifically or if that was on specific difficulty.

[toxic forge]

I mean it feels like one of the uh

Man I cant remember the name

[obtuse moth]

i pref unyielding, most people prefer flak. 5% is also good. you cant go wrong with any of the three. and you can always change it. remember you can only change 2 things total of of the 2 perks and 2 blessing slots you have

[toxic forge]

One of the terminus maps spawns are super fucked

[gritty silo]

Yee, that's why I'm asking so many questions. I like the stats a lot so I want to keep this one.

[toxic forge]

I just spent like 30 minutes didnt even get halfway through the level on shock gauntlet

[plush jacinth]

okay what yall reckon i do to this staff to make it meta? was thinking flak/maniac dmg > ranged crit dmg and nexus > terrifying

[gritty silo]

Why do you prefer unyielding?

[obtuse moth]

you're in a good spot since you can leave the t4 maniac and flurry

[toxic forge]

Only thing I'd change is terrifying barrage to whatever other blessing you have and crit damage to maniac or flak or something

[obtuse moth]

because i can kill everything else besides crushers with staff already, stunlock them if necessary

bosses take a looong time to die, psykers are weak against bosses and i play monstrous specialist maelstroms whenever i can

[gritty silo]

do you not prefer brain burst?

[obtuse moth]

purg is one of the best anti boss psyker ranged weapons (although it pales in comparison to lasgun)

[toxic forge]

Mk4 dueling sword can fuck up bosses. Same for brain burst

[strong gulch]

Unyeilding isn't bad on purg. I'd leave that and swap the crit damage. The way crit damge is caculated gives you such a small bonus.

With purg, you can damage a monster while also cleaning up a horde.

[obtuse moth]

they have +25% maniacs and +10% crit damage and are choosing between flak/unyielding/critchance

[strong gulch]

Purg isn't bad on monsters, but it's not amazing. If the team is lacking monster damage, then purg does help.

[gritty silo]

Correct, noth. I was just gathering info on what to swap the 10% damage out for.

[strong gulch]

Yup. Just adding more info.

[gritty silo]

I see the argument for unyielding if you don't use brain burst with your purgatus, yes?

or inspite of, for the aoe dmg

monster+horde

[obtuse moth]

if you die more to flak or can't do the lmb + quell stagger technique, flak is a fine choice

[strong gulch]

You're better bets are crit chance and flak imo

[obtuse moth]

i don't think its worth overwriting the maniac since their nexus is still t3

[gritty silo]

^

[strong gulch]

A valid choice is what you hate most or struggle against most.

[gritty silo]

I see. Still relatively new so haven't figured that out yet!

[toxic forge]

LOL finally got Surge though

[ornate hamlet]

Assail, smite or rupture for leveling?

[obtuse moth]

played a surge staff, its definitely much sadder now but still useable

assail

[strong gulch]

Hadron said "Interesting"

I assume assail for leveling. IDK about these days.

[obtuse moth]

its still really strong

[toxic forge]

Idk I probably have less than 100 matches on my psyker when I hear people say they can't get a blessing after 9 months Im either super lucky or they're super unlucky

[gritty silo]

Final question, same as vox nearly. Which blitz for lvl 30 using purg staff, presumably trying to get as much crit from talent tree as possible?

[late yew]

https://tenor.com/view/ree-pepe-triggered-angry-ahhhh-gif-13627544

[obtuse moth]

i have like 10+ pages of junk orange voidstaves

[late yew]

sell them

[obtuse moth]

takes effort

for like zero money

[late yew]

no

decent mone

[obtuse moth]

i have filters and favorites and search and like 8 loadout slots

and more than 8 million credits, dont need the money

[gritty silo]

I assume you want wildfire with the purg staff, trying to soulblaze everything, right?

[obtuse moth]

i skip it often lol, since i pair it with assail a lot

[late yew]

no

wildifre bad

[gritty silo]

Ahh ok. Cool. I'll flavor the build as needed then. Just was not sure if I was going to be forced to go hard left side for wildfire

[obtuse moth]

these are some of the problems with wildfire #psyker-class message

[strong gulch]

Keep unyielding and flurry.

Change crit damage to crit chance / flak / maniac

Change barrage to warp nexus.

[obtuse moth]

take the trait that causes 3 burning when you kill an elite or special, its really good esp with burning builds

[toxic forge]

This'll do for now lol.

[obtuse moth]

you can get burning stacks way over your 15 cap that way. the soulblaze venting shriek can also bump your stacks over cap by 6

[gritty silo]

Yee I got that 1, just wasn't sure if I had to take the little extra shitty little burn on the side

[strong gulch]

Take PC.

[obtuse moth]

i take wildfire on blazing trauma, but thats because the burning is rng based and its a low stack weapon (caps at 6). i never take it on purgatus, but if you take the trait that gives you warp siphon from enemies killed while blazing, its worth it to take wildfire

[late yew]

only good on high diffs

[toxic forge]

Load in dead, on this awful ass map. Love this game.

[late yew]

on low diffs not enough elites for it to start going

[late yew]

You ass is awful 😠

[toxic forge]

This is legit one of the worst maps for shock gauntlet

[late yew]

map is good

[toxic forge]

Too many choke points

[late yew]

wat

choke points are great

[toxic forge]

Not on shock gauntlet LOL

[obtuse moth]

yea, sorry idk how to offer advice for low difficulties beyond saying what weapons and talents are good against what enemies and what skills and combos are good for horde clear

[late yew]

NO FORGIVNESS

[toxic forge]

You're eithter in a tight choke or out in the open on this map

[strong gulch]

This is true

[late yew]

skissue

[obtuse moth]

lmao

never seen that abbreviation before

[mental grail]

advice for low level is the same as high level, you'll just clear faster

as long as you have 3 functioning synapses you'll be fine

[obtuse moth]

its not in the case of things like the soulblaze trait because of density issues

[obtuse moth]

^

[plush jacinth]

any changes for fire staff build?

[mental grail]

Patch 15 made density way worse

on heresy

[strong gulch]

There are some things that scale and actually function in higher difficulty vs low.

[obtuse moth]

don't take the free brain rupture talent, its terrible

[strong gulch]

yip

[obtuse moth]

its 66 dps, if none of it is wasted on overkill damage and you trigger the talent on cooldown

70+% of it will be overkill damage on poxbursters on damnation. which means 85% on base difficulty i think lmao

[plucky flax]

Hoovering ammo leopard print style omnomnomnom

[strong gulch]

Noice. It wasn't going to eat itself. Someone had to do it.

[late sphinx]

Hey guys need some help, running damnation 5 just a moment ago and we had a psyker on our team we were all 30 but it was quickplay so didnt know them

https://streamable.com/edafjc

is this just normal psyker behaviour? Like is this a build to explode every 30 seconds or something?

We were picking him up all the time and it just felt annoying

[obtuse moth]

they just messed up a lot lol

[late sphinx]

Ah right

[obtuse moth]

esp common with players who are used to taking the vent to save themselves and try a new talent

[limber tartan]

Dude has 5 wounds

[obtuse moth]

players with 4+ wounds, expect them to die a lot

[plush jacinth]

psyker hasnt mastered edging

[limber tartan]

There is no world where someone would need that many

[obtuse moth]

zealots do

[limber tartan]

If you're going down that often then you're just bad

[obtuse moth]

theres a zealot build based on wound thresholds. when i run it i have 7 wounds (on lower difficulties that would be 9 wounds)

[plush jacinth]

only thing i could ever think of is that one suicide penance but they changed it to make it easier iirc so...

[late sphinx]

It just didn't feel very like, teamly I dunno what the word is

For all the effort to explode and maybe kill a mob or elite we could of done without it

Ive saw more benefit from the one pskyer staff that does the AoE Blast honestly

[idle aurora]

Either he tries to get a penance or he is a complete psyker noob

Or just a sad troll who tries to screw with 3 other people

[fluid knot]

Vigil Station? Thats gone from B tier to S tier for difficulty in this patch

Great map

[plucky flax]

Martyrdom zealot is probably the class' strongest build.

Just insane damage bonus.

[fluid knot]

Its good, but i will forever remain a Piety stan

[toxic forge]

My marty zealot has 7 wounds lmao

Insane damage

They did not like the zealots banter all game

[coarse bane]

I do enjoy my almost unkillable zealot build, but ove come to enjoy the bonk build more.

[coarse bane]

They do realize the player has no control on that, right?

[toxic forge]

No they didnt like the actual person talking

[plush jacinth]

what does a BiS/fun Trauma perks & blessings look like wizards? there seems to be a few combos like fire/surge/rend. appreciate any insight

[toxic forge]

Blazing + Nexus or Flurry + Rending

[coarse bane]

Oh, we're they just gabbing or making call outs?

[toxic forge]

No they were bitching and saying shit that didnt matter all game

I legit joined to him complaining about me being dead, when I spawned in downed lmao

got to enjoy 40 mins of that

[strong gulch]

The two popular trauma builds are blazing spirit + warp nexus for fire trauma and warp flurry + rending shockwave for brittleness and faster charge.

The Atheneum in pinned comments has more info on those.

There are some other builds that have potential or are just silly.

[coarse bane]

OK, than I agree with them, pointless gabbing is annoying when you're already dealing with shitty sound ques.

[plush jacinth]

oh yeah, forgot about the Atheneum. thanks

[late yew]

Change BB for assail in my opinion

Since you have real issues against shooters

and assial is good against them

[toxic forge]

Also all three of them had no horde clear. I probably killed most of the chaff lol

[late yew]

and take some single target melee

[toxic forge]

Bunch of hatchet/knife users

[late yew]

Deimos or DS

[late yew]

no one plays on heresy

[coarse bane]

Tis the way of things in randos.

[late yew]

does not count

And yeah, if you see someone with 4+ wounds

Just instakick them, unless it is martyr zealot

Just saving you trouble

[coarse bane]

OR you can rise to the challenge, and not be an toxic player.

[late yew]

no

i choose toxicity

I embrace it

[toxic forge]

?

[coarse bane]

Then you become more of a problem then them. Being toxic doesn't help them learn, or help the game's life span.

[obtuse moth]

i mentioned that

noth: players with 4+ wounds, expect them to die a lot
ancient arcane za: psyker hasnt mastered edging
AwesomeFreddy - 5589847016: There is no world where someone would need that many
noth: zealots do
AwesomeFreddy - 5589847016: If you're going down that often then you're just bad
noth: theres a zealot build based on wound thresholds. when i run it i have 7 wounds (on lower difficulties that would be 9 wounds)

[obtuse moth]

you know there are mute and block features right?

block will mute them AND stop them from being in your games in the future

[coarse bane]

For each lost wound they get 8% more damage. Not to mention they also have a ton more mitigation when losing wounds or lost ones.

[late yew]

If they came to auric mission to learn, they came to the wrong place

[trail oar]

Is wildfire talent not working?

[late yew]

it does, but iti s just not good

A

[late yew]

only if they take appropriate talents

i don't remember about damage

but 8% attack speed and 8% DR are both separate talents

[sand path]

can you guys provide me a dueling sword build/guide? I just can't do well with it

[obtuse moth]

it just sucks

[coarse bane]

If they're running martyrdom they should also have the DR per wound, on top of the built in one of martyrdom.

[obtuse moth]

#psyker-class message <--- these are half the problems

[late yew]

you need blessing that gives rending on headshot

For second blessing shred is good, also that one that gives crits on dodge

you need to be good with headshots

also consider thta its special stuns anything

even mutants, on headshot

[sand path]

thanks

[late yew]

Generally i would say pair it up with something that is c apable of horde clearing

DS best used against elites

[deft osprey]

finally got warp battery penance done