psyker-class

[severe folio]

upon crit automatically charge

or upon elite kill

[lethal lagoon]

Bloodhungry, crit auto charge

Would be hilarious OP

elite kill is not bad though

[severe folio]

upon reaching 100 peril, auto charge

yes

[lethal lagoon]

I don't know how that would function

[severe folio]

would be perfect

[lethal lagoon]

because to reach 100 peril you have to charge

[severe folio]

very fatshark

[lethal lagoon]

lmao

[severe folio]

upon blocking range attack, auto charge

upon gaining EP, DD, WS, auto charge

[lethal lagoon]

the warp shield charges the sword?

[severe folio]

yeah

[lethal lagoon]

That would actually be pretty cool.

[severe folio]

ACTUALLY

upon warp block

parry enemies

[umbral helm]

it would be interesting if there was more synergy between the class specific weapons and our talents, but I suppose some people might feel shoehorned into using them in that case

[maiden wolf]

That would be hilarious with bloodthirsty

[lethal lagoon]

apprently the original vet tree was like that

and they scrapped it for that reason

[harsh urchin]

Yeah like a mechanic called peril?

[lethal lagoon]

that's why the current vet tree on release felt empty

[maiden wolf]

Yeah. There's a lot for Psyker, less though for the other classes.

[static needle]

how much speed difference is 60% peril quell speed vs 70%?

for voidstrike

[lethal lagoon]

quell spd is largely considered dump on void, I can check it for you though.

[severe folio]

some people is fine as long as its not everyone

[steel flame]

If you inspect your weapon it will tell you the exact values on stats

[lethal lagoon]

He might not have those numbers?

[severe folio]

I think deimos should have had a unique void attack

[steel flame]

Maybe half a second

[severe folio]

i kind of dislike that void attack from obscurus

would be nice if deimos just

stab an enemy, then the sword just blow them a hole

[static needle]

does quell speed even matter with transfer peril?

[steel flame]

Not really

[supple skiff]

if your swapping to staff to vent yea

[severe folio]

staff innately already have a much faster manual quell speed than everything else in psyker arsenal

but check the codex to dee dump stats

they should have an entry on stat priority

for all staves

[static needle]

not doing that

[supple skiff]

if its void, blast radius is the dump stat

[severe folio]

yeah

[supple skiff]

then quell

[severe folio]

bladt radius is useless on void

you want that penetrating action

[static needle]

anyone else here to back that up?

[severe folio]

check the codex

[lethal lagoon]

blast raidus is a dump ye

[severe folio]

in the pin

[lethal lagoon]

on void

[umbral helm]

"sure, it's a nice staff, but the girth of the blast gives you no tactical advantage whatsoever"

[static needle]

Im gonna run this with transfer peril + surge. Is the fact i cant change maniac damage perk a bad thing?

[supple skiff]

no maniac is good

[severe folio]

maniac damage should be good

elite though

[static needle]

why elite bad?

[severe folio]

not a lot of elite

[static needle]

huh

[steel flame]

Ha, haha a metal gear 5 reference

[static needle]

which enemies are elite?

[bleak bolt]

this was part of the "missed patch notes"
so you're telling me the 2/3 chance your staff does no damage isn't a bug but a feature?

[severe folio]

if you go to psykanum youll see the elite being put in a space

[severe folio]

the visual is a feature, but they scuffed and make it affect targeting

[obtuse moth]

everything taggable thats not a specialist or boss

basically all the heavy unit patrols

[severe folio]

but north, what is specialist

[static needle]

then that elite is actually really good cause those are the chonky guys i need it for

[umbral helm]

I reiterate once more that the distinction between elite and specialist feels arbitrary

[severe folio]

yeah but if you categorize them base on armor, you cover a larger group

[obtuse moth]

its not because having a 25% modifier against their armor types is much stronger

[tawdry void]

is that a cosmetic you have on it?

[strong gulch]

Could have been great. Rip blast radius.

[steel flame]

You can do better with flak or maniac damage which is the armor for most elites and specialists respectively

[obtuse moth]

specialists all have audio cues and are special spawns rather than just patrols. (aka dynamically spawned actively rather than existing on the map once you get to them) they all do something specific like area denial, toughness removal , explosion/corruption disabling or long range specialist

[severe folio]

should pin that enemies categorizing

[static needle]

yes but with my double crit build i dont think itll matter much for the little guys. theyll be dead no questions asked

[severe folio]

okay, for example if you only have elite, you target rager, but if you have maniac, you target both rager and flamer

and trapper

[vale nacelle]

Running surge without 5% crit perk

[severe folio]

and if you have flak you also target every enemies with flak

like flak ragers

[supple skiff]

plus armor perks give more dmg

25 versus what 8?

[severe folio]

and now instead of 10% on rager you get 25% on rager, trapper, flamer

[supple skiff]

regardless its a good staff

[obtuse moth]

25% vs 10%

[severe folio]

this just mean you cover a larger range of enemies

[supple skiff]

with room for upgrade

[severe folio]

and cover a more efficient range

also mutant dont have armor but they are count as maniac

and then mauler count as flak

do you see where this going

[cloud heron]

What do you mean they don't have armor? Isn't maniac their armor?

like ragers

[coarse bane]

Unyielding is a pretty safe bet. Those usually have the most hp.

[static needle]

alright then in that case, would the first be better to run surge + transfer peril with than the other one? second image is the other one i showed before

[severe folio]

i mean, thats not “armor” isnt it

[obtuse moth]

armor is flak or carapace and covers specific body parts

[umbral helm]

I know what the distinction is, it's just always felt like a semantics thing.

[obtuse moth]

its an armor type but not technically armor

[severe folio]

would pick 2nd

[cloud heron]

i guess, but there's more types of "no armor" than armor, then

[supple skiff]

only one lock on first

hmmmm

[severe folio]

unyielding are monstrosity and bulwark, reapers

[static needle]

but like how much difference does that extra little 15% damage of a armor perk even make at the end of the day? im gonna be rolling with warp charges for days and the surge blessing will melt enemies

[umbral helm]

but, also depends where you hit them, on a lot of enemies

[severe folio]

mostly looking at perks and blessing

[cloud heron]

15% is pretty sizeable

[severe folio]

also 2nd one has more charge rate

[static needle]

uh bruh this is annoying xD

[severe folio]

actually 2nd one in general have a way higher average stat

if that 2nd staff change from elite to flak, you already got a versatile voidstrike that can be alter around as you like

for either transfer peril or whatever else you want

[umbral helm]

welcome to minmaxing, make your stay efficient so you can enjoy it

[static needle]

nah cringe i want surge blessing

[severe folio]

but you have a surge blessing in your bank

[upbeat parcel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/684095278231584788/1174919783993585714/image.png?ex=65695851&is=6556e351&hm=63b91e9fefccc8b63ec8e2c157e285b36189d653fb327d26a383d750bbac4980&

I've gotten blessed

[severe folio]

so if you want surge voidstrike you can interchange into that

when you want

[static needle]

yes but id also like to run it with transfer peril but cant do that for the 2nd staff since it already has modifier...

[severe folio]

you want both transfer peril and surge ?

in the same staff ?

[static needle]

y

[severe folio]

ehhh

they not gonna synergy you know

[supple skiff]

not really worth min maxing if thats what you want to run

[static needle]

people keep telling me it's awesome cause you dont need to build for crit chance since u got true aim talent

are they wrong?

[severe folio]

yeah but think about it

how will it synergy

you headshot kill and enemy and then you throw a second bolt ?

[crude cape]

surge staff and exhil takedown still bugged right?

[severe folio]

whats exhil takedown

[fading iris]

nice quell speed

[crude cape]

i might be stoned, the talent thats bugged

i cant remember the name lol

[severe folio]

you mean the EP talent ?

[fading iris]

Yes

[static needle]

@severe folio

[supple skiff]

ir you land constant headshots that can work, but the more passive crit from nexus is huge imo

[umbral helm]

veteran talent, it's bugged to increase damage taken by 15% as opposed to reduce it by that amount

[severe folio]

whats exhil take down ?

[fading iris]

is the vet talent that the CM replied with the surge staff

[static needle]

oh wait

shite

i forgor

so wait

gonna double check

[crude cape]

its a vet talent i just paired it here for some reason sorry lol

[severe folio]

me don’t understand

[static needle]

does flurry synergize with surge for voidstrike?

[severe folio]

me too high on caffeine

i would say

[fading iris]

idk if is the same bug that was before, a vet talent that instead of giving dmg reduction, was making you take more dmg

[static needle]

Even without scrier's gaze?

[severe folio]

nexus do better with surge

[supple skiff]

in the sense that your firing more often so more potential crits

[severe folio]

since surge trigger on crit

[supple skiff]

but, with a better base crit

[severe folio]

flurry is so you charge faster

so flurry do better with transfer peril

[static needle]

ya know what imma run scrier's with flurry + surge

good?

[severe folio]

well

[supple skiff]

if you want a lot of crits to get the most out of surge run warp nexus

[severe folio]

i think scrier do better with transfer perik

[tawdry void]

anyone in here knocked out Malleus Monstronum?

[severe folio]

because with transfer peril you quell on headshot, which you will endlessly quell while scrier activate

[tawdry void]

that chest piece looks sick

[mossy sundial]

alright fellas, what should i be building this patch as a psyker?

[severe folio]

purg

[mossy sundial]

righto

[severe folio]

scrier purg

[supple skiff]

no, you won't benefit from flurry with the passive peril gen from scryer

[static needle]

okay sooo... scrier's with voidstrike using flurry + transfer peril?

[dense zinc]

Trade offer, I help with the brain burst private penance in the same game I get the ogryn private match penance.

[supple skiff]

you will hit 100 super fast

and quelling will interupt flurry stacks

[static needle]

okay so this then?

[supple skiff]

better yes

if you want to machine gun in scryers for longer

faster charge means more bolts, more quelling etc etc

[severe folio]

if you want to be even crazier

maybe

use DD as wel

[supple skiff]

I personally run void with nexus, surge, and scryers

[severe folio]

in scrier transfer peril voidstrike

[supple skiff]

you double down on the crit, get a LOT of surge procs

but you have to manually quell a lot more

[severe folio]

you also blow up just as well as purg scrier

[static needle]

yes but the charge rate is disgusting so you overrely on crit chance

[supple skiff]

you can def peril a lot

but its something thats managable with practice and situational awareness

[upbeat parcel]

I wonder how long u can keep scrier's gaze going with the voidstrike blessing that quells on weakspot kill

[severe folio]

sometime i wish psyker blow up could apply soulblaze on surrounding enemies

[severe folio]

as long as the horde is still there apparently

[toxic juniper]

How hard is it to knock out the malleus monstronum penance?

[supple skiff]

scryers passive peril gen ramps up

to the point where you cant manually quell to stop it

[severe folio]

need all the quell talents

battle meditate, transfer peril blessing

maybe add in warp siph peril reduction

man if EP peril negation apply to beside blitz it would have been a useful middle tree

just 5 extra seconds of no peril generation at 100 peril would have been good

[velvet spear]

saw the updatre, so we're still boned on surge eh

[hard solstice]

wait there was an update?

[velvet spear]

idk my game just updated, muist've been last day or two hotfix

[maiden wolf]

You can stay at no peril just by killing lots of chaff for a while, but AFAIK scrier's gaze applies peril exponentially

[velvet spear]

bunch of vet changes, they fixed the handcannon thing sadly

[mossy sundial]

whats the most valuable psyker G ability rn?

[maiden wolf]

G? As in blitz?

They're all very different.

[dense zinc]

Any takers?

[mighty fractal]

Depends on which staff you’re running

And what your team comp is

[maiden wolf]

You'll want to pick a different one based on your other weapons

[mighty fractal]

Smite is very nice if your main weapons lack CC and especially if you’re playing a Hi-Inten Shock Troop or maelstrom mission

Also good for Mostly Melee since it lets you lock down entire Crusher patrols

[hard solstice]

Is it possible to go all-in on a soulblaze build rn and still be good on auric maelstrom? Struggling to find something that feels like it works well without glaring issues

[mighty fractal]

Brain Burst if your ranged weapon lacks sniping potential for gunners behind cover and trappers/dogs running away

[digital narwhal]

Gun Psyker Meta when?

[half iron]

so true!

[mighty fractal]

You can take all of the soulblaze talents with Purgatus or Blaze Trauma and do very well

[static needle]

is the perfect timing talent a must for voidstrike using flurry and transfer peril?

[digital narwhal]

No.

Not really a must for Transfer Peril + Warp Flurry Voidstrike

[mighty fractal]

If you take warp charges, though, I think the talent that has a chance to grant charges on teammate kill is better for maintaining stacks than the soul flame warp charge talent

[static needle]

also should I run 6 warp charges?

[mighty fractal]

Since that one has two layers of conditionals to jump through to gain a charge

[digital narwhal]

It really depends, since any enemy afflicted by your Soulblaze that dies has the chance to give you a Warp Charge.

And since we can spread Soulblaze so easily now

I’d say the Soulblaze one is better unless you’re not running any Soulblaze in your build

[supple skiff]

less dmg than Id like but

[mighty fractal]

Yeah it’s definitely better in hordes where you can light the whole screen blue

[static needle]

@digital narwhal

[digital narwhal]

6 Warp Charges is good, yeah

[mighty fractal]

For spread-out gunfights, the other one might be better

I’ve swapped between the two and noticed more stable warp charge stacks with the non-soulblaze talent

But that’s anecdotal

[hard solstice]

"killing an enemy with soulblaze" the meaning here is kinda vague. Does it mean killing an enemy that currently has soulblaze applied to it, or does it mean killing an enemy WITH soulblaze damage, soulblaze would have to get the final hit of damage on an enemy.

[static needle]

guessing I should run shield with 6 charges then? cause scrier's gaze would just defeat the purpose of having 6 of em, right?

[static needle]

with soulblaze applied to it i think

[maiden wolf]

If you run all the cooldown reduction feats, each elite kill will give you cooldown reduction for your next ult, AND the one after that.

[obtuse moth]

depends, if more than half of the things that die are burning soulblaze its better. it just has to be on fire, you don't have to kill it

[static needle]

u telling me? or someone else?

[mighty fractal]

Shield with 6 charges is very good

You can place multiple bubbles at once if your rng is good

[obtuse moth]

or if you kill a lot of specials and elites

[maiden wolf]

I'm announcing it, like a town crier.

[mighty fractal]

Before they fixed a bug with the warp charge cdr talent, you could poop like six bubbles at once in auric damnation

Now you can have two, maybe three up at once

Which is still really strong

[obtuse moth]

you could put one down after every special or elite killed

[tulip trench]

man, brunt never has revolvers for sale. i need blessings for them Dx

[mighty fractal]

Yeah it was nuts lol

[orchid shadow]

Why not buy the base grey versions then iupgrade f you're blessing hunting?

[tawny kernel]

any good builds you can make with scriers gaze?

[tulip trench]

fair enough, plasteel funds be low af though

[frail sand]

would it still make sense to run a gun alongside warp charges for fast shields? (it doesn't have to be the most dmg)

[static needle]

What perk should i sacrifice to get 6 warp charges? i have 2 toughness curios and im running 5% extra tougness on both of those

[tulip trench]

oh damn, unless upgrades brick it, this is statwise better no?

[hidden crystal]

Trying to get back into the game after the overhaul, I guess that Scrier's Gaze is probably considered the meta Ability for gunpsykers, but I still come across enough cases of needing to yeet a dog off someone who's got themselves pinned horribly out of LoS.

[static needle]

maybe quietude?

[fading iris]

I prefer on the right, because I like to zip around when using revy

[tulip trench]

its mainly my "oh shit crusher/mauler" gun tbh

[hidden crystal]

That Mobility is probably going to cost you a dodge count.

[mighty fractal]

All of the ults are useful

[fading iris]

if you want for RAW POWA and doesn't care to be a little slow, for the left

[mighty fractal]

Shield ults let you hold hallways or position aggressively in front of shooter packs

The toughness regen on dome is great too

[hidden crystal]

And right now I'm feeling the sting of force swords not having infinite dodges any more...

[fading iris]

and terrifying barrage, imo, sucks on everything

[mighty fractal]

You can save teammates from taking hp damage with that talent

Shriek is great for applying soulblaze and racking up tons of dot

Also helps a lot in Mostly Melee Maelstroms, especially if you’re using Void or Trauma as you slide around while charging

[obtuse moth]

personally i'd dump quell toughness but YMMV, dont see your lower tree nodes

[obtuse moth]

i prefer focused channeling to terrifying barrage

[daring crescent]

2 questions:

1. Is kinetic deflection mainly helpful if you have a force sword with ranged shield talent thing?

2. Is the power up penance bugged? Can't seem to trigger it

[hidden crystal]

One thing I'm seeing about Shriek rather than the other ults is that... I kind of feel it's pretty good on its own without needing any of the side nodes, whereas any of the others I feel like I'd need to invest in at least a couple of extra upgrades to get the most out of it.

[mighty fractal]

Kinetic Deflection is generally useful even without a Deflection Force Sword

[obtuse moth]

hmm, im very damage biased so id probably keep the quell and dump the bottom +15 toughness node on the right side since id prefer having more reliable toughness generation when im in trouble to having more toughness. but if you find shooters are popping through your shields consistently, the +15 can help. depends on how much you use the shield to regen toughness also. you could use the shield to regen instead of the quell trait

[mighty fractal]

It gives you a ton of effective stamina when reviving teammates, and it’ll let you survive some scary attacks that would otherwise break your block like mauler sideswipes and even Crusher overheads with 5 stamina and some block cost reduction (need to test what the breakpoint is exactly)

[hard solstice]

Could a voidstrike staff with blazing spirit be good for a soublaze build? I see purgatus or trauma staff with blazing spirit recommended over voidtrike, but I'm wondering if it could be good

[mighty fractal]

People say you don’t block in this game, but you still hold block while kiting/sliding when you know you don’t have an opening to poke a mauler in the head

[obtuse moth]

ive found since i started using 3 revive speed curios, i haven't really missed kinetic deflection for ressing

its a nice bonus to have on the way to true aim

[static needle]

thanks for all the build help

gnight!

[hidden crystal]

1. Yeah, somewhat the other way around, to be honest.

Kinetic Deflection is definitely the best way to get the most out of a Deflector force sword, and they're a good combination together - but it can extremely useful for tanking a horde to get in a revive.

[mighty fractal]

The coolest thing about force swords in general is how huge the shove range and strength is

[severe folio]

yeah at a point you just cant quell fast enough

[obtuse moth]

crusher overheads? dang. sounds like you need a pretty large investment still

[mighty fractal]

You can flatten multiple ragers at once with a single shove

[mighty fractal]

Yeah I haven’t gotten it to work consistently, but I have had it happen recently in auric damnation

[hidden crystal]

Oh, I could write a complete love letter to force sword pushes and push attacks.

[obtuse moth]

fun fact, laspistol also has a force shove on psyker. might be farther range but unfortunately costs peril unlike force sword push (not push attack)

[mighty fractal]

It does need at least five stamina oj your sword afaik

[maiden wolf]

Kinetic deflection is Psyker's best kept secret

[mighty fractal]

Oh yeah I forgot about that lol

[static needle]

final question: What perks are good for voidstrike with transfer peril + warp flurry besides unyielding?

[obtuse moth]

crit chance oh i read nexus and automatically thought surge in my head

[severe folio]

maniac

[supple skiff]

maniac, flak, carapace

[severe folio]

sprint speed

[static needle]

i think flak is the best choice tbh

[severe folio]

fukkk so much ideas could have made this game 10 time more enjoyable

[obtuse moth]

transfer + nexus doesn't sound like good synergy compared to other options fwiw

[static needle]

whoops

didnt mean nexus

meant warp flurry

[severe folio]

wanna bet next patch surge will still break in a different way ?

[static needle]

so with that in mind, what should i use besides unyielding, @obtuse moth?

[severe folio]

i think you should take flaks

[obtuse moth]

flak is good yea

[severe folio]

but look, what kind of enemies are you planning to point your voidstrikes at ?

monst ? crushers ? horde ?

[obtuse moth]

unless you dont have another way to deal with mutants, then i might go with maniac

[severe folio]

he got maniac on it already

[static needle]

maulers, bulwarks, flak ragers, dreg ragers mostly

[severe folio]

def go with flaks

[static needle]

are maniacs unyielding?

[severe folio]

flak and maniac

[static needle]

hmmm

[severe folio]

no maniac is maniac

[static needle]

which ones are unyielding?

[severe folio]

unyielding are monst

and reaper

bulwark

[mighty fractal]

Monsters, Reapers, Bulwarks

[static needle]

ok

[severe folio]

not the shield of thr bulwark btw

[mighty fractal]

Though Bulwarks have little bits of flak armor on them

Or is it carapace?

[severe folio]

the flesh of the bulwark

[severe folio]

have to test, or check the armor list pinned in this channel

yes, we have an armor list

[mighty fractal]

I remember some people did testing way back in beta

[obtuse moth]

except assassination which is flak

[supple skiff]

their legs or something

[severe folio]

#psyker-class message

here

[supple skiff]

carapace on left leg

knee down

[mighty fractal]

A lot of armored enemies actually have bits of unarmored flesh on them, and carapace enemies have little flak areas on their joints

[severe folio]

btw hank

[mighty fractal]

Yep I remembered there was some weird armor asymmetry lol

[severe folio]

what melee are you pairing with this voidstrike ? @static needle

[mighty fractal]

Maniac Armor is fatshark’s solution to hookrats having monster armor for some reason in vt1/2

And zerkers/monks having their own armor class

[severe folio]

it would be great if we have a way to

just

unarmor some enemies

not rending

literally peel their armor off

[mighty fractal]

Maniac is typically high stagger resist, but ‘unarmored’ as in it won’t stop cleaves like flak and carapace can

[mighty fractal]

That’d be super neat, though I bet it’d be hell on the backend code

[severe folio]

cant be worse than what they have right now in their spaghetti store

[supple skiff]

lmfao

[mighty fractal]

Even MORE spaghetti!

[supple skiff]

rather not give em more stuff to bork

[severe folio]

abilities to slow enemies speed

ice

warpbite

[supple skiff]

load into damnation

full 360 surround by shooters

everyones already dead

[frail sand]

thats authentic quickplay experience

[supple skiff]

easiest 130 plasteel of my life lmfao

a whole 2 minutes of work

[frail sand]

yesterday i loaded into an AM mission, it was 2 dead bots and 1 downed bot

[tulip trench]

ok.. am i playing poorly?
or is the stat screen arbitrary?

[frail sand]

did u rejoin?

[tulip trench]

there from the start

feel like i played my heart out though

[frail sand]

looks fine to me though

[tulip trench]

but lots of bubbles, and watching our 6 from mutants/trappers

[frail sand]

if u won u won, wouldn't read too much into scoreboard

[tulip trench]

the overall score is throwing me off lmao

[supple skiff]

a modders interpretation of teamplay value

[tulip trench]

tbh i feel like disabler/specialist kills more important tho?

[frail sand]

must be penalty for ur materials pickup

[supple skiff]

a lot in this game you cant quantify

[severe folio]

i have come to know of the existence of Rune Priest

[frail sand]

smh 10/10 are some rookie material pickup numbers

[strong gulch]

Winning the match is more important than most damage.

[severe folio]

you say that but that could enable leeches

[mighty fractal]

Smite 🙂

But yeah

[severe folio]

if you dont carefully inspect your contribution how do you know you are aiding in that victory

[mighty fractal]

I’d love some other bio abilities

[severe folio]

PSYKER PUNCH

equivelant of biden blast

[mighty fractal]

Just code it like the ogryn’s grenade punch

[severe folio]

yesss

but bigger

[mighty fractal]

The GG pilebunker

[severe folio]

and flashier

OMG

[mighty fractal]

Huge, even

[severe folio]

gargantua

[strong gulch]

There are always going to be people who suck at the game. Also as long as everyone is playing, and having a good time then whatever.

[severe folio]

thats not the same as “as long as we win”

these are 2 different points

“having fun”

“winning”

pick either

[strong gulch]

Did a match earlier with most damage but lost the match. I would rather win the match.

[frail sand]

it kinda depends: im happy with a loss if there was reasonable teamwork and people tried

[severe folio]

exactly

[strong gulch]

You can do both wtf

[severe folio]

you can do both but they are 2 different points

[strong gulch]

yeah I didn't say they were the same

[severe folio]

you didnt, but your point was contradicting

[strong gulch]

not really

[severe folio]

you said winning matter more than contributing

but then you said having fun is more important

[hidden crystal]

It's extremely arbitrary as far as how it values certain things.

It gives massive credit for picking up resources, operating machinery, staggering enemies and blocking attacks, even though picking up the most resources can often (but does not always) mean someone who keeps rushing ahead and triggering enemies, operating machinery is often just doors, having someone to cover you during a data interrogator is just as important as doing it, staggering enemies counts every single time you stagger them regardless of how much, and getting the most blocked attacks is often just rewarded for being a psyker with a deflector sword or an ogryn with a shield.

[strong gulch]

No. I said winning is better than most damage.

[severe folio]

thats almost the same thing, if you are doing the most damage that means your presence is contributing substantially

[strong gulch]

Fun is most important.

[kindred sand]

Which perk would u change?

[severe folio]

well you may not win even if you have fun

[tulip trench]

ok so high dmg/disabler/special kills more important

[severe folio]

id say both

[spice veldt]

and preferably you don't die or get disabled too much and whatnot

being forward and having good weapons allows you to rack up high damage and kills

[strong gulch]

Right. You can have fun and not win. Most damage is not the most important thing.

[hidden crystal]

Honestly? None of it's important.

[strong gulch]

IDK what else to say lol

[severe folio]

very strange they dont have a monitor on stat of “killing enemies that are targeting your allie”

[kindred sand]

I cant, already did a blessing

[frail sand]

the most important stat is materials pickup, nothing else matters

[severe folio]

but then you said winning matter more, so having fun and winning are standing on 2 different cliff

[strong gulch]

We are arguing about subjective things that have different meanings us.

[severe folio]

you bricked

[severe folio]

i guess so, but then your subjectivity are not a consistent matter

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, often the genuine MVP can be the one who's got their head on a swivel making sure stray groaners aren't forcing your ranged specialists to keep swapping to melee, and shooters aren't harassing your horde clear, even if in the end they don't win in any category in the scoring.

[severe folio]

precisely

[strong gulch]

I don't get what things you are gripping onto. Fun is its own thing. Winning is its own thing. Most damage is its own thing.

They are not the sames things. Winning can happen is you have most damage or not. You can have fun if you do most damage or not. 🤷

[kindred sand]

Which one is better?

[severe folio]

my point is that, you said winning matters more than dealing most damage, in which i said not having a substantial contribution doesnt mean that victory is contributed by you

you then said as long ss everyone have fun thats all that matter

well, that didnt really address my concern about leechera, having fun about what here ? winning ? leeching ? contributing ? those two points you said dont align with your objectives

[static needle]

maccabian mk iv

[severe folio]

again, i havent even say anything about whether winning is fun or not. Im just saying if the squad win and you dont have substantial contribution, whether you have fun or not doesnt matter, its just apparent that you didnt aid in that victory, mayhaps

[severe folio]

that sword should cover your unyielding problems

[hidden crystal]

A good team will often not be playing to their individual strengths, but to everyone else's weaknesses. Making another player more efficient may be detrimental to your relative scores, but it's often what wins games.

[static needle]

so run unyielding on it?

[severe folio]

yess

uncanny, unyielding, very good mk4

[static needle]

what perks

[severe folio]

i personally run unyielding and maniac on my mk4

[static needle]

oh sry

meant blessings

besides uncanny

that is

[severe folio]

blessing i run shred uncanny

people do recommend rampage because rampage bug make it super strong

[static needle]

is precognition 4 good?

thats what i got on it, and uncanny

[severe folio]

the condition for precog is you gotta dodge, so you have to be pre-active to trigger, i think being proactive to trigger buff is more consistent

[static needle]

good for carapace enemies, right?

[severe folio]

mk4 is good for all form of enemies

especially armored yes

crushers

thanks to the stabby

[static needle]

so not a bad choice to run carapace dmg on it now that ive got precognition?

[severe folio]

test if you can one shot mutant

if you can i guess sure

[fleet mason]

I need a hard decision taken care of

Do I take HC4 off it

Or just upgrade it

[strong gulch]

If everyone is having fun what does "leaching" even matter? If people aren't having fun then that's a problem. If something is really frustrating then that sucks. There are plenty of ways to support other players that isn't just damage.

But also none of us control how others play.

But at this point we are getting in semantics that are way beyond the VERY broad statement that originally made.

I am not going to keep on with this because it's arguments for arguments sake.

[fleet mason]

I really really want HC4 off it because I have never seen it at Melk's

But that roll is so damn nice

[severe folio]

because in another squad, that same leecher may be the reason that squad lost, that is why it is not healthy to promote or allow leeching

and the arguements is being for arguement sake is because you made 2 points that are vastly separated from each other to begin with

[strong gulch]

Good night. Good game.

[severe folio]

weirdo

[strong gulch]

Yup

night night

[static needle]

without warp charges?

[hidden crystal]

I've long played a marksman gunpsyker as my main, and while a lot of people will often respond to that concept with "Well, a veteran's always going to use an MG12 better than a psyker", it's extremely welcome to have some long range on the squad when everyone else has turned up with flamers, recon lasguns and kickbacks.

[severe folio]

can test both circumstances

[static needle]

alr

[severe folio]

my mk4 one shot weakspot mutant

but i have maniac on my mk4

[severe folio]

fuk em kids

im not gonna wait for a vet to start shooting the firing squad thats raining on the team

if i can control what is attacking us im stealing all of his ammo

[hidden crystal]

I've had extremely few criticisms in game. It's almost always places like Discord, the forums or Reddit that have their strong opinions about it.

[severe folio]

because in forum they have time to complain

nobody complaining when 100000 bullets is flying through their head

[static needle]

Cant one shot mutie without warp charges

[severe folio]

test if your voidstrike can stagger/one shot them

and are you hitting his head ?

[spice veldt]

and people complaining about ammo with regards to gunker

[severe folio]

they complain about it because its a logistic-paper point

[spice veldt]

and people complaining just outing themselves as people with shit ammo management or being garbage at melee

[severe folio]

though you know

i think the game would be a bit more fun if we gain ammo from enemies that have guns

[strong gulch]

It's pretty good as is (stat wise I mean). You can re-bless and use it for awhile at the very least.

[spice veldt]

yeah, having more ways of getting ammo could be interesting

we already have a no-ammo mode

[severe folio]

and whoever said “just use staff”

[ornate hamlet]

I remember the times of people going "it's your job as a psyker to use a staff so the vet can have ammo"

[severe folio]

im going to twist your balls off

[spice veldt]

they could implement ideas into maelstroms and whatnot to see how it goes

[hidden crystal]

In fact, I can only clearly recall one game where I actually had someone comment on it, and my general thoughts to that were "We're two minutes into the mission, I shot into a mixed horde because that's the weapon I had out and it happened to suppress the shooters that were in there too, it worked, and you're making judgements about my playstyle?"

[dark swift]

Worth picking up from melk?

[fleet mason]

I feel like this one is borked

[supple skiff]

perks are meh

and youd want to get rid of shred

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, that's just fundamentally stupid, because that implies the entire game relies on having a psyker on the team to make the ammo balance work.

[ornate hamlet]

That was one of my first arguments against it

[hidden crystal]

But... um, yeah, if you'd not noticed guys, teams are kind of random.

[ornate hamlet]

It's like

What happens if you get 4 classes that use ammo?

[static needle]

Yes. I can start one shotting at 5 warp charges

[supple skiff]

wait until they learn ammo on kill only works in coherency

[severe folio]

do you want to one shot him ?

[ornate hamlet]

The devs didn't balance ammo pickups around everyone having a staff psyker around

[severe folio]

if you do, add maniac into your mk4

[ornate hamlet]

Some people got really stupid

[severe folio]

not letting enemies drop ammo gave the game a false perception of the lack of ammo gain

[supple skiff]

wel if your first pick in a 40k game on release is to play the Cod standin class

odds are cognition isnt your strong suit to begin with

[static needle]

what do i gotta do? 😉

[severe folio]

maybe they should have give survivalist to psyker

[severe folio]

add maniac damage

on the other perk

[ornate hamlet]

I have my questions about "standard military dude" being seemingly the most appealing

[severe folio]

mostly because

guns feels good to shoot

[ornate hamlet]

Though I guess it also comes with the territory that zealot is the knight and psyker is the mage at first glance

[hidden crystal]

Honestly, the MG XII (although I'm currently trying a Vraks VII) I was using is ridiculously ammo efficient. I've had some games where I've had to pick up zero ammo simply because the vet's ammo drops kept refilling it.

[strong gulch]

If you have another revolver that's doing well, then strip HC off the new one. Sure this new one isn't perfect, but it's definitely playable.

[ornate hamlet]

So people gravitate towards the closest equivalent to the archer

[near wyvern]

Inferior or Mk 4

[static needle]

Already got it. What else?

[ornate hamlet]

Legit, you give people an archer class and the majority of new players flocks to it

[severe folio]

ss the sword

[static needle]

whats ss

[ornate hamlet]

If you give the archer a hood, you're set

[severe folio]

screen shot, you just did that

[wet belfry]

Well one character is an unkillable melee machine that does not care about positionign and the other is a big, tank brute that can feel non nimble to play.

[static needle]

i think i need rending...

[wet belfry]

To me it was pretty obvious which characters would see the most play time

[severe folio]

what did you replace for the maniac

[static needle]

uh idk

[severe folio]

please dont tell me you replace unyielding…

[static needle]

uh i dont think so? what, are muties unyielding?

[severe folio]

unyielding are bosses

[ornate hamlet]

Bosses

[severe folio]

and reapers, bulwarks

[static needle]

i might have, dont remember

[spice veldt]

vet does seem to offer the most "standard" playstyle given the amount of first-person shootes nowadays

[severe folio]

noooo….

[ornate hamlet]

[cold geode]

trying to get back into the swing of things with the psyker, so far im not liking the changes 😐

[hidden crystal]

Ah, here we are - here's an old scoreboard from a Hunting Grounds game.

Despite bringing something that was definitely not a staff, exactly zero ammo pick-ups over the mission: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1046914150363844779/1148858746227933224/image.png

[severe folio]

youd want maniac, unyielding

[static needle]

lets get to the point tho why cant i one shot the mutie here

[spice veldt]

though psyker was apparently most-played for some time during patch 13

[severe folio]

well

[ornate hamlet]

I wonder

[severe folio]

try again see if you one shot headshot it

[static needle]

tried 10 times

[severe folio]

interesting

usually i heavy stab 1 shot a mutant

[ornate hamlet]

Somehow I refuse to believe 4.2 million rocks were thrown in 7 days

[severe folio]

need to see vids perhaps

[severe folio]

want to stream it in a vc ?

[static needle]

ye

[hidden crystal]

Fragging hell!? TWO HOURS THIRTY SEVEN MINUTES? 78 DEATHS? (Presumably not the same mission, but I guess it would explain it).

[ornate hamlet]

The psyker shards tho

[static needle]

team 38

[ornate hamlet]

I think we might be in the truths

[spice veldt]

ikr

how tf were they dying 78 times

i assume it was just some team messing around

i've seen games that went up to around an hour and over, but >2 hours just seems like they had to have been messing around

[static needle]

@severe folio

[tired knoll]

at that point its just on purpose

[static needle]

too tired to use a mic

ill show u the stuff

[ornate hamlet]

Let me see my psyker pokes

[severe folio]

hmmmm

[severe folio]

ill test on my end

[static needle]

do i do more dmg when i charge longer

[severe folio]

no

@near wyvern henkz is not 1 shot headshotting mutant with a maniac mk4

[strong gulch]

I need a couple stacks of something to be able to one shot a mutie.

I just damage it a bit at range then stab it; or stab it twice.

[ornate hamlet]

I need a crit to one-shot them with mine

[strong gulch]

same

[ornate hamlet]

But it also has bad damage and no maniac

[tired knoll]

same i need warp stacks

[severe folio]

i dont need crit to headshot them

[hidden crystal]

It was only a few days ago that I was in a mission that was enough of a Charlie Foxtrot for me to get the Leave No-one Behind penance. (I'm sure I've previously been in missions where everyone else has died, but once you add the condition that you've specifically got to be the one who rescues all of them, that gets a lot less likely).

[severe folio]

crit to bodyshot one shot yes

fellas

[static needle]

@severe folio Wanna see my whole build?

[severe folio]

they didnt nerf our mk4 damage did they…

[severe folio]

nah

[static needle]

WAIT WAIT

[ornate hamlet]

Mayhaps perchancios if I get warp charges or DD stacks

[static needle]

is it this???

[severe folio]

no i def dont need that

[frank seal]

how much health does the dome have? I can't find any info on it

[static needle]

i think its a coherency thing

other people give u dmg bonuses

[severe folio]

i def dont need coherency either

[static needle]

then wtf

[severe folio]

because i tested this in psykanum

[static needle]

what

[severe folio]

i need to experiment on my end

[ornate hamlet]

With 6 warp charges I can one-shot them, and I assume I can do it with 4 and maniac

[static needle]

this?

[ornate hamlet]

And better damage too

[severe folio]

wel

oh

[ornate hamlet]

62% damage is kinda oofie

[severe folio]

oh no

oh no….

maybe its that

[ornate hamlet]

Warp rider doesn't give the minimum 10% anymore too

[static needle]

i have warp rider activated tho

[severe folio]

because old warp rider give 10% at 0 peril

[static needle]

what??

noooo

[strong gulch]

Switching builds in the meat grinder doesn't always clear the previous build's buffs.

[mighty fractal]

That was fixed in the latest update

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, that was kind of a blow to my gunpsyker.

[mighty fractal]

The warp rider free 10% damage

[severe folio]

NOOOOOO

THEY

THEY CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS

[static needle]

https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-22409238

[supple skiff]

https://tenor.com/view/hang-first-time-smiles-gif-14991372

[tired knoll]

try deimos heavy 2 while youre at it

[severe folio]

THIS IS OUTRACIOUS

[severe folio]

OMG

[supple skiff]

Mfw they took deflect block from rez

[severe folio]

no that remain

[supple skiff]

Mine still can

[severe folio]

i seen it

[static needle]

then... wtf

how one shot now?

run the coherency dmg thing?

[supple skiff]

Not the og

[severe folio]

in mission you will one shot

[supple skiff]

Use to block ranged

[severe folio]

circumstances you will have coherency and siph

[static needle]

wait are muties elite enemies?

[supple skiff]

Rez a homie face tanking a reaper

[tired knoll]

specialist i think

[strong gulch]

Muties are specials.

[static needle]

how so?

[severe folio]

peril

[static needle]

wont always have 6 charges? coherency stuff then?

[supple skiff]

For demios you need like 1067 headshot dmg on 2nd heavy in the inspect tab one pun mutie

[severe folio]

and 1-2 warp siph

[supple skiff]

Gets real specific in the codex

And that value is just base damage plus t4 maniac

[severe folio]

BUT YEAH NO MORE 1 SHOT MK4

[supple skiff]

Because of warp rider fox?

[severe folio]

deimos still 1 shot

[supple skiff]

Fix

[near wyvern]

Duelling Sword? Lacking buffs, mainly uncanny strike and then some warp rider.

Everything got hurt by the removal of flat +10% from warp rider

[supple skiff]

Gotta stay edging siblings

[severe folio]

fukkkkk

I WONT FORGET THIS SHATFAAAAAAARK

guess im using my katana for now

[static needle]

dayum

good, right?

[supple skiff]

Yeah

[severe folio]

yeah stat distribution are right

[static needle]

better than this?

[severe folio]

yes

[static needle]

stat wise?

k

[severe folio]

you should consult the codex more

[static needle]

is the gunner res perk even necessary if im running dome and 6 warp charges?

[supple skiff]

Gives bis perks blessings for each weapon, some alternate builds for weapons it’s good stuff

Gunner resist is bad

[static needle]

thats fine

i have 2 modifications

stamina regen perk or block efficiency perk for duel sword mk iv?

im not running extra stamina curios

[severe folio]

neither

[static needle]

wat u smokin

[near wyvern]

Flat stamina is always better than block efficiency. Even more so if you rub Kinetic Deflection.

[static needle]

i do

[static needle]

wym its necessary for boss blocking

what do u think @near wyvern

[severe folio]

i dont block bosses with ds

[static needle]

so but why wouldnt u run stam regen

[surreal marsh]

What perks are BIS for Purgatus Force?

[supple skiff]

Better things to run

[severe folio]

because i run unyielding and maniac

[supple skiff]

Wait

Are we talking about the weapon of curio

Or*

[near wyvern]

I just said, flat stamina > block eff. Especially with Kinetic Deflection.

If you think going stamina regen then no that's useless

[static needle]

no, like should i even run stam regen? Isces doesnt seem to think so

[near wyvern]

Stamina regen does not affect the regen delay so no, block eff is better

[severe folio]

is this perks on the curio ?

[dark swift]

Was the surge staff nerfed? Feels weaker than it did before

[static needle]

would you use either of em tho?

[static needle]

yes

[severe folio]

block efficiency

[near wyvern]

No

[bold maple]

pub console psykers are a whole new level of bad jesus

[static needle]

what should i run instead then

[severe folio]

henkz

theres a codex

[static needle]

maniac resistence?

[severe folio]

it should have info on psyker curio

[static needle]

oki

[near wyvern]

Toughness, HP, toughness regen, sniper resist

Or whatever you struggle with

[fading iris]

"flat stam is better"

[static needle]

sprint efficiency

[severe folio]

gunner resist is bad but i personally run gunner resist because im a sucidal krieg

[supple skiff]

Xp per mission, corruption resist, and curio drop chance

[fading iris]

I'll meme Plasteel mission rewards into being a thing

[static needle]

xp????

[severe folio]

and im also an ordos horder so i run money

[fading iris]

ordo dockets ftw

[maiden wolf]

I'm frequently tempted to do that

[untold widget]

I've got a lingering conspiracy theory that all I need to do to get the Surge blessing is to beat a Daemonhost to death with my current voidstrike special bonk. Can anyone confirm?

[maiden wolf]

I guess if I ever want to buy every cosmetic recolour

[supple skiff]

What’s the max roll for pesos ?

[severe folio]

voidstrike bonk is special ?

[supple skiff]

Lmfao, ordos*

[ornate hamlet]

LOS PESOS

[supple skiff]

Phone was closer than it was farther away on that one

[fading iris]

my curios on their final form will have +stam +toughness +max heath with corruption, hp, toughness and ordo dockets on the perks

[severe folio]

not even that i just need ordos for brunt

[maiden wolf]

Yeah, gotta hoard

[supple skiff]

Brunt man

[severe folio]

i want an “orgyn resistance” on my curio so i can have a chance to not join a party with orgyn

and extra chance to join with a vet

[supple skiff]

Took me 2 mill to get a decent sword that could run the hadron gauntlet

[fading iris]

but... the big guy is nice

[severe folio]

fuk him

[fading iris]

he just wants to help

[severe folio]

he block firing lines

ammo waste

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[severe folio]

shoot when he not suppose to

[supple skiff]

[severe folio]

melee when he is not suppose to

what kind of fukin orgyn see a gunner 100009 miles away from them and think

“walk to them and hit”

when they are sitting on max ammo

[supple skiff]

Love it when big bois shield me from enemy fire

My void doesn’t care

[severe folio]

the orgyn shield the enemies more than the teammates

[supple skiff]

Now If I’m wearing my vet hat then yes good lord

[severe folio]

my hate to orgyn exceed my hate to disablers

orgyn are just another disabler in my book

[supple skiff]

They carry, they bonk, but most importantly they chonk

[severe folio]

soulless abhuman all of them

[fading iris]

[supple skiff]

When they play back line body guards and make space for us and bets they’re great

Vets*

[severe folio]

except they dont

[supple skiff]

Unfortunately the number that actually do that is low

[severe folio]

that is why they should all eat dirt

[fading iris]

[half iron]

i’d rather an ogryn than a vet. big man is cooler

[supple skiff]

Eh I like having a beefy anchor

[severe folio]

dont care

[half iron]

except the ogryn i was in last match.

[half iron]

i do mf😠😠😠

[severe folio]

eat dirt

[untold widget]

My favorite thing about playing Trauma Smite psyker is spamming left click to desperately try and drop a gunner that's been firing for 3 minutes staight because the vet wants to power sword the horde that I can one shot.

[half iron]

go into the glue machine and transform into glue, loser mcloserface

[severe folio]

eat grox

[supple skiff]

Universal psyker experience

[half iron]

vets on their way to shoot anyone within melee range of someone else

[supple skiff]

Why they gave us assail lol

[untold widget]

Right, but if I take assail, then the packs of 4 bulwarks, 6 crushers, and a small platoon of ragers just dismantle my team

[tall mango]

whatre the blessings I want for revolver again?

[severe folio]

maybe they deserve it

[untold widget]

It's not a matter of deserve, if they die I get less plasteel

[severe folio]

leechers don’t deserve your victory

[supple skiff]

The funniest thing about this game, is that if everyone can take care of themselves, you win

[strong gulch]

Handcannon + crit blessing. I like surgical for crit blessing.

[supple skiff]

And yet

[half iron]

punishment for using ass fail

[untold widget]

that's why I stick to smite

so that I can hand over free kills to clueless rejects on warp colored platters

[severe folio]

my smite is called purgatus

[supple skiff]

Mines surge void

[severe folio]

very strange smite

[untold widget]

surge eludes me thusly

as did Deflector,tbh. 200 hours in before I got rank 1

[supple skiff]

Doesn’t need to be CC’d if it’s dead

[severe folio]

serious question

if theres a beam staff, what do you guys think it will be named

[mighty fractal]

You say that until you do Mostly Melee maelstrom

[untold widget]

Eh, if they made more noise I'd agree with you. But too often you're just tooling along and glance behind you to find a downward overhead 6 inches from your noggin

[mighty fractal]

And then it becomes psyker CC playground

I hope the beam staff is a warp succ

Like the beam flows into the staff

[fading iris]

Warp Azur

[strong gulch]

I remember the scramble for deflector.

I finally got surge blessing yesterday. I've been playing since beta. 🥲

[severe folio]

terrible name

what category do you think theyd make it

a whole new category or 1 of the current staff category

[fading iris]

gonna be honest, I don't know if there is some psyker power that would be like the said beam

[severe folio]

there is

in pyromancer

[supple skiff]

Molten beam

[untold widget]

I'd honestly take Bolt staff over beam staff at this point

[severe folio]

pyromancer discipline can literally make a solar beam

[fading iris]

Always comes to mind lightning, fire, voices, explosion, gate to the warp

[mighty fractal]

We’re already getting a melta at some point

[severe folio]

you forgot punching things hard

[mighty fractal]

Which will be some kind of beam

[fading iris]

Pyromancer like Vermintide Pyromancer?

[severe folio]

but not for psyker

[fading iris]

So... that isn't 40k

[severe folio]

that idk, i just know 40k psyker have a pyromancer discipline

[silk hawk]

I feel immeasurable pain playing psyker without my surge....

[severe folio]

pyromancer, divination, telepathy, telekinesis, biomacy

[mighty fractal]

It’s a psyker discipline

[fresh reef]

yeesh

[half iron]

psyker has innate swag

[fading iris]

one sec, heard the elevator sounds while I check

[sullen bobcat]

Psyker has an innate 7.5% crit rate

[fading iris]

hm... yeah, could be a Molten Beam... well, the part that could be a problem is that we already have a purgatus

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Telekinesis would be fun, just yeet a poxburster or hound into the next zip code

[severe folio]

purgatus is just a flame thrower

molten beam is different

but you know it could be a rifthaven serie staff

[supple skiff]

Molten beam is like laser pointer but surface of the sun

[fading iris]

Fire is fire

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-20591327

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Beam:TCP::Purg:UDP

[severe folio]

do you want to collect blessing for a staff again, from scratch

[silk hawk]

Molten beam be like

[supple skiff]

If it means I get something new, yea

[sullen bobcat]

I wouldn't mind a new soulfire staff that isn't purg

[fading iris]

Watch Molten Beam be a blitz on a upgrade for the talents tree

[sullen bobcat]

Or some weird crit staff

[severe folio]

having it as a fire blitz would be craaazy

i would love that too

[supple skiff]

Id be down

[severe folio]

pair it with purgatus

[fading iris]

right?

a forth column

[silk hawk]

They we will be forced to add melt death animation to all enemies, too much work...

[severe folio]

nah just replace assail

i mean

not really

just keep it burnt death animation

[fading iris]

then ppl will ree about and say that they always loved assail

[half iron]

remove ass fail and replace it with swag

[severe folio]

fuk em kids

[half iron]

“ppl”

more like losers

[severe folio]

im getting my pyromaniac dream

[silk hawk]

Filthy casuals

[severe folio]

im going to burn atoma down

[supple skiff]

So did they abandon classes?

[severe folio]

and no one will stop it

[half iron]

ass fail is for big nerds that don’t know true beauty

[fading iris]

shhh, think on the fourth column idea, so much power, so many new bugs

[supple skiff]

We subclasses I guess

Well*

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True psyker's don't use their talents

[severe folio]

true psyker goes to the golden throne and die

[half iron]

true psykers explode on accident

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just fully unspent points in AM wheedling around

[fading iris]

Darktide can reach Path of Exile levels of talent tree, the possibilities

will help Isces to clean the land from the Ogryns

[supple skiff]

Chad astropath versus virgin primaris

[fading iris]

[severe folio]

on one hand i want to shoot solar beam from hand

on other hand i want to punch shit till it die

(but not as orgyn)

[fading iris]

how bout punch shit till it die while your hands glow like solar beams?!

[half iron]

let me punch strong and fast with epicboyz’ gaze

[severe folio]

duel wielding update

[fading iris]

Again, thiccsushi, my rates are low, employ me

[supple skiff]

Iron flesh combat ability

Reduced incoming damage increased melee dmg

[severe folio]

though scrier gaze does feel like a biomancy discipline ability

HOWEVER

it’s actually a divination discipline skill

[fading iris]

I'll make grimdark fun and have so many crazy ideas that I'll make the players like the bugs because there is so much crazy stuff being done that bugs are bound to happen no matter what, everybody wins

[severe folio]

lets have a bug that activate friendly fire

[supple skiff]

Seems to me to be some unsanction psyker, pouring gas on a fire type shit

[mighty fractal]

A lot of the new skills and talents are taken directly from the RPG rulebooks

[severe folio]

if it makes the fire burn harder

[mighty fractal]

Give life leech staff as the new beam staff

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-fire-bender-avatar-flame-burn-gif-4493955

[mighty fractal]

Though that’s basically sienna’s new staff in vt2

[supple skiff]

Lemme just channel all this warp energy and try not to peril

[half iron]

let’s make every veteran explode

[mighty fractal]

Which is basically just brain burst

[severe folio]

LETS HAVE A BLITZ WHERE YOU SUMMON A MONST THEN DIE

[supple skiff]

Not I can’t shut it off until it runs it course but don’t worry it’s fine

[fading iris]

a talent that if you peril explode, the daemon appears but since the Emperor protects, you control the daemon

with a timer

[severe folio]

no dont let you control it

[fading iris]

ok then, let the Ogryn player control it

[severe folio]

that doesnt

no

[fading iris]

** ++ yes ++**

[restive slate]

I rather just have psyker and plasma vet explosions hurt allies

[half iron]

i would let an ogryn get a little silly

[supple skiff]

Divination combat ability

[severe folio]

i dont want the explosion to hurt ally

but if it can knock ally around

[supple skiff]

Makes the ogyrn a shots track their targets so they don’t waste ammo

[severe folio]

hehehehehe

[restive slate]

We already got c4s in the carnival that hurts friendlies haha

Also... Question, bomber's and zealot's immolation grenade's fire fx seems to be delayed on my end. Is it due to mods or something?

[half iron]

remove all firearms from vets

like, jam their guns with your brain

[fading iris]

don't think, just jam

[restive slate]

Sure, nerf vet summore, kick him while on the ground

[severe folio]

jam enemies gun would have been a great ability to have

[half iron]

would.

[severe folio]

OR YOU KNOW

[fading iris]

[severe folio]

REPLACE THAT USELESS SHRIEK

REPLACE THAT USELESS PURE DAMAGE

[restive slate]

FatShark: Make new animations? Ew

[supple skiff]

lol that fucking ability sucks so much ass

[severe folio]

dont even fukin have to, just make enemies swap to melee and run up

[fading iris]

I mean, their last animation update broke Surge

[supple skiff]

Like only 50 peril

Tf is that

[severe folio]

EVEN WARFRAME CAN DO IT

[restive slate]

Make it a freezing ability, as a porper alternate to fire damage

[severe folio]

now thats extra animations

because believe or not that freezing effect is a separate animation for most game

[fading iris]

this is what you are blasting from the raptor

[restive slate]

Not really, just slow them down

[severe folio]

yeah you would think so

apparently not

cant just pause enemies animations

only overwrite it

[fading iris]

think about this, do you guys want more animations? ||yes||

[severe folio]

but yeah

having a venting shriek that makes all gunner enemies switch to melee

[restive slate]

I mean, Sister of the Thorn deepwood staff was a thing

[severe folio]

how useful would that be

[severe folio]

thats a whole different animation is it not

[restive slate]

Invalidate smoke grenade even more

[fading iris]

Smite from both hands

[severe folio]

floating animation

[potent echo]

Suppressing shriek

[severe folio]

close range smite like raiden fatality

[restive slate]

I'd take it, if you wanna recycle what Fatshark already has

[oak hamlet]

anyone can help me with one penances?

[potent echo]

Terrifies them and they cower in fear for 5min

How thematic is that

[severe folio]

have to modify the affecting zone

they might make it reverse peril

so venting shriek that buildup peril

[potent echo]

That's so funky

[mighty fractal]

The real question is

When we gettin a force dagger

Special attack charges it for big explodey stab

[mighty fractal]

that’s the spirit

[severe folio]

no its nexus

[oak hamlet]

anyone can help me with one penance?malleus monstronum

[fading iris]

++ Praise the Omnissiah ++

Can someone help Bucciarati?

[severe folio]

my greatest creation

[ebon nymph]

When we getting a force SPEAR

Farseers are up 1 on the imperium for that

[supple skiff]

When we getting the force?

[severe folio]

i would kill for a spear weapon 😭

[ebon nymph]

Dude

A Singing Spear would be so amazing

[severe folio]

long range stabbing armament

it doesnt even need to be force