psyker-class

[bitter escarp]

instead of one stack at a time

fuck, we are the boomers now

[hearty oak]

Cause the devs forgot to playtest the penances to see if they were fun

[lethal lagoon]

Worst kind of boomers lmao

[bright ether]

first gen psykers did indeed have it rough

[lethal lagoon]

I literally just talked about walking 15 miles to school uphill in a snow storm, fuck me

[bitter escarp]

uphill through a blizzard both ways

[bright ether]

thats why i didnt waste time on penances till now lol

[supple skiff]

I got my BB penance the hard way

not with all these new fangled maps and cast time reductions

[lunar sparrow]

I feel like the penances for all the other classes are at least vaguely possible in random matches, but you have to Private match for any of the Psyker ones

[bitter escarp]

I still haven't gotten the monstrosity kill one

[lunar sparrow]

sure feels like it

[glass prairie]

Emmm just be useless and kill a trash once a while

[lethal lagoon]

For warp charges do that short mission with the boss at the end. I always forget its name.

[supple skiff]

im missing only monstrosity, and I dont care to get it at this point

[lethal lagoon]

Hab dreyko is good too.

[bright ether]

if you play at high difficulties the amount of elites that are coming at you makes it easier

[bitter escarp]

tbf I think the psyker ones push you and are one of the more instructive sets of penances

but fuck me are they unfun

[lethal lagoon]

It was bugged for a while lmao 😆

Also some penances had the wrong difficulty listed.

[bitter escarp]

I've seen too many people around with that armour who are Not Good

[lunar sparrow]

Yeah and I usually play on Heresy these days, but even so they don't come that thick
plus everyone else is slicing and dicing and shooting that I can't always get the kill

if ally kills in coherency granted them, wouldn't be an issue

[bitter escarp]

they do?

[lethal lagoon]

Do an auric t5, enemy denstity makes it easier.

[solar sand]

deimos is good for its left click right? never really used them

[hearty oak]

The 90% monstrosity was an obvious bullshit challenege along with Dont miss a single shot and run out of ammo

[bitter escarp]

pick the talent node that gives 4% chance for a Warp Charge from kills in coherency

[supple skiff]

almost got monstrosity until a braindead vet fucked it up last second

[lethal lagoon]

Auric t5 magistratti or hab dreyko probably the best for warp charge upkeep, always an elite to kill

[supple skiff]

after it was discussed

[bitter escarp]

thing is that some of those were intended to be flex bullshit challenges, but everyone got fucking neurotic about getting them all

[bitter escarp]

repeating yourself unnecessarily here

[lunar sparrow]

even the latter one I reckon you can get it with a revolver and a few tries
I don't know how the 90% one is possible without a rediculously lucky setup and three accomplices

[hearty oak]

Until they discovered the ultimate cheese for some of them

[lethal lagoon]

Get a shield gryn to tank a DH was the easiest for the 90%

[lunar sparrow]

I have, it isn't at all reliable

[lethal lagoon]

No ammo wastage, the vast majority bugged it.

[bitter escarp]

it's not really meant to be, it's a supplement

[lethal lagoon]

They would leave at the end, return, and dump their ammo carefully.

[hearty oak]

I got it. Through cheese. Cause fuck off, im not sweating that hard for a chest piece

[supple skiff]

armor didnt even look good tbh

[bitter escarp]

ehhh

[lunar sparrow]

valid

[bitter escarp]

one of the better chest pieces ingame

[supple skiff]

I like the last set in ingame store

[bitter escarp]

let's face it loads of them are shit

[lethal lagoon]

You can try running purg and flaming shriek with the 10% soulblaze warp charge. Perilous combo and wildfire too(kind of bugged but still).

[supple skiff]

cant really expect a good looking earnable cosmetic in a live service model game with a cash shop

[lethal lagoon]

The game had 10s of millions in budget, and way more than that in sales, they can spend a little effort on free cosmetics

Plus all that microsoft money now

[lavish summit]

Can't believe they just murdered my surge staff like they did

[bitter escarp]

why would they when people are throwing money at them

[lunar sparrow]

might give that a shot once I can find a decent flame staff

[bitter escarp]

the game is at least an order of magnitude more profitable than Vermintide

as in 1 and 2 combined

[supple skiff]

making the first new wave of earnable cosmetics post launch hobo clothes was a bit much tho

[manic halo]

Thoughts on warp rupture?

no idea why one would use it

[lethal lagoon]

And literally the only good part of that was being able to go topless if you had the bug

Warp rupture is which one?

[bitter escarp]

GW nixed that

[hearty oak]

Cause the preview armor mod exists. Not a whole lot of the armors they have are that original. They could make a tone of ganger related armor, a frickin head piece with a REAL visor

[bitter escarp]

originality has never sold that well

[lethal lagoon]

They could literally just recolor one of the many paid cosmetics for an actual worth it earnable award

[supple skiff]

Id run shirtless strikes for BIg E no question

[bitter escarp]

people want what they want with small variations so they can claim identity

[supple skiff]

reject paid cosmetics, embrace flexing on the scoreboard

[bitter escarp]

they're not really pushing super hard to be that unique, shit's scary

[manic halo]

the one which makes venting shriek do 100-200 damage

depending on peroil

[lethal lagoon]

Oh, yeah no point.

[manic halo]

Ok cool

[lethal lagoon]

Flaming shriek is so fucking good too

[manic halo]

cause i just tried it on pox workers

and it didn't kill one

[bitter escarp]

now if they added a zero to that number

1000 to 2000 damage

now we cookin

[lethal lagoon]

It should be a stun or something instead of damage

I mean it is a big yell

[lavish summit]

Psyker needs something that they can do big damage with

[bitter escarp]

mass knockdown could also work

[supple skiff]

melk was almost cooking

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 dueling sword one shotting crushers isn't enough for ya?

[bitter escarp]

that is no dulce du leche for sure

[lavish summit]

no

[supple skiff]

excuse me wut

[lavish summit]

but also how?

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't it with a fully uncanny, weakspot scier's crit?

[supple skiff]

hmm

[lethal lagoon]

I think you might need the dodge finesse up too

[supple skiff]

I got a good one Ill go check

[lavish summit]

eh, I find scier unfun

[bitter escarp]

DD too

[supple skiff]

I finally got demoios that can one shot mutants

dont go telling me theres better out there

[lethal lagoon]

Then surge blessing voidstrike

[supple skiff]

surge warp nexus void with scryers is something

like one (two) shotting crushers something

[lavish summit]

If they would make it so surge blessing effects trauma right click, that'd be great

[lethal lagoon]

🙏

[supple skiff]

does surge have surge?

[lethal lagoon]

Also, I can't wait to spend another 10k plasteel to not get a blessing

[lavish summit]

nah

[supple skiff]

feels like a missed opportunity

[bitter escarp]

blaze trauma meta

[lavish summit]

this is fun

[lethal lagoon]

blaze trauma feels like how psyker is meant to be played

[bitter escarp]

power cycler round 2

[lethal lagoon]

It does take a bit more effort than other builds though, so I can't play it more than once or twice in a row.

[lavish summit]

imo i feel like blaze trauma should just be how trauma works

[supple skiff]

oh right I cant test the dueling sword I accidentally deleted mine earlier lol

demios reroll tilt went sideways

not that bend out of shape over it. I like the attack pattern but I much prefer a force weapon

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, if I'm gonna be a space wizard, I wanna be a space wizard

[ornate hamlet]

I dunno, I got them both.

[lavish summit]

Same

when do we get the ability to cast testicular torsion upon the heretics?

[supple skiff]

space wizard things

[tulip trench]

ok...
illisi for hordes, revolver for crushers/maulers, assail for gunners/snipers + Warp Siphon dmg bonus
is nutty. feels sooo good

[ornate hamlet]

🐐 ‼️

[manic halo]

Shield wall feels so much worse than bubble on the new map. The small corrirors make it a non issue but on this big map...sheesh

[lavish summit]

Are you using scriers for this rn?

[supple skiff]

nope

[lethal lagoon]

Even OB can one-shot a mutie without scier's I believe.

Let alone Demios

[steel flame]

Full uncanny witn a few stacks of dd and a scrier crit and like 50ish peril with warp rider

[supple skiff]

little rough around the edges

[lethal lagoon]

Not bad, esp when you consider the weapon is fast enough to do two quick hits anyways

[steel flame]

You can already kill a crusher in 3 headshots starting from 0 uncanny

[lavish summit]

Wonder if theres anything I could swap slaughterer out for

[steel flame]

It's not too far to reach a one shot

[steel flame]

Uncanny

[manic halo]

do you all prefer bubble shield or shield wall?

[steel flame]

Personally I prefer shield wall to fuc with specials cause it's funny

[sturdy dagger]

Maulers are gone in 1

[manic halo]

yeah I love shiled wall but bubble is just so consistent. new map made me realise that

[steel flame]

It depends on the maps,

[manic halo]

new map makes me wanna neck if i use wall

its so open

[steel flame]

For narrow maps wall can be better

[manic halo]

ye

[steel flame]

On open maps bubble gets more value

You don't need to repel specials as much on the open, so 360 coverage is better

In narrow maps when random shit can pop around corners, having the repellent is excellent

[manic halo]

agreed. The large open area in the new map had me gunned down from every angle and the wall was just too small

was a sad tiume

[lethal lagoon]

I dunno, if I'm going shield I want that toughness regen

[lavish summit]

so, 5 stacks of true aim can be achieved with smite and surge now

which is wierd

[lethal lagoon]

Smite revolver gang coming out strong

[digital narwhal]

Wall

[manic halo]

shields more fun because you can place it a little more creatively/reactively.

shield wall

[digital narwhal]

I prefer being able to outright deny space to Specialists

[tulip trench]

I assume just change slaughterer for a higher lvl blessing?
i bricked my own weapon cause this game doesnt tell you anything 🙃 and I had refined stuff without thinking
perks im happy with tbh

[lethal lagoon]

For Illy, I like Uncanny slaughter, manic.

[manic halo]

i like popping shield wall right infront of a BON as it vomits

and just keep wailing

[lethal lagoon]

Uncanny kind of unneeded depending on your usage though

Unless you wanna up fire damage

[tulip trench]

mainly for horde mgmt

so probs just stay slaughterer

[lethal lagoon]

You already one-shot horde, so unarmored kinda pointless.

dreg shooters should be a one shot too

[tulip trench]

so flak then?

[lethal lagoon]

Flak or manic, mutants exist.

Illy is no demios agaisnt mutant, but it can be decent with crits

[tulip trench]

mutant being big bois right?

chaos spawn and the like?

[lethal lagoon]

big charging bois yeah

[tulip trench]

oh wait ya

[lethal lagoon]

chaos spawn is unyielding, like other bosses

[tulip trench]

mutants

ya mb

maniac includes ragers?

they seem to kill me more than anything else tbh

[lethal lagoon]

manic is one rager, flamers, mutants

I don't remember if it includes part of bomber and trapper

[tulip trench]

the other rager is in flak right?

[lethal lagoon]

ye

one shotting flamers with the illy is nice

[tulip trench]

kk probably flak then

[lethal lagoon]

Nice little left click headshot

Flak if you are going to use it agaisnt other flak, but just for that one rager type is a bit of a waste.

[tulip trench]

i can usually pull out revolver and hip fire ragers when they come outta no where
but sometimes ive just finished shooting crushers/maulers and they get the drop on me while im reloading

[lethal lagoon]

flak ragers are pretty rare in my experience

[lyric burrow]

trapper is all maniac

[lethal lagoon]

Noice

[lyric burrow]

bomber is full flak

[tulip trench]

actually ya i rarely see them

always just like 8 of the green ones at once lmao

[lethal lagoon]

They buffed rager and then started spamming maps with them lmao

rager feels like a t6 enemy shoved into t5

[tulip trench]

the flak rager doesnt count as a maniac?

[lyric burrow]

no its flak

all flak

[tulip trench]

damn

thats annoying

no crossover classifications

[lyric burrow]

most of the crossover stuff is on reaper and bulwark

[tulip trench]

ok and i can swap out the perk as many times as i want, just not the other one

correct?

[lethal lagoon]

yeppers

[lyric burrow]

yeah whichever one you change

[tulip trench]

so ill probably do maniac

[lethal lagoon]

mutant damage is 👌

[lyric burrow]

yeah maniac is good on illisi

[lethal lagoon]

A charged illy will one shot those event mutants

a few swings of illy with a crit will kill a normal mutant, no charge.

[tulip trench]

i find a force charge 0.5 second hold heavy one shots the mutants

the mutants i dont struggle with really

the ragers

sheesh

[lyric burrow]

this is what i run

personally

i did make this before uncanny was good

but it still does fine

[tulip trench]

ok imma do maniac, ragers catching me while im reloading revolver is always a royal pain and usually costs me 1/2 my hp

[lyric burrow]

illisi light special also stuns them

so it deals with them well

[lethal lagoon]

I can't remember why I'm not using manic

Probably shoudl change

wasn't aware lmao

[tulip trench]

oh yaaaa

[lethal lagoon]

I think I was doing a melee illy build

[tulip trench]

+% elites seems generally useful

so not upset with that perk

[lethal lagoon]

That double t4 roll is the luckiest I've ever gotten lmao, also unluckiest cause I can't scrap it for both.

[tulip trench]

oh wait

scab rager counts as an elite

so there

[lyric burrow]

fair warning youd be giving up damage to stuff like trappers or flamers

er not flamers

[lethal lagoon]

yeah, elites doesn't include specialists

[tulip trench]

usually kill them with revolver/assail

[wet cloak]

Does anyone have a good voidstrike build? Since they nerfed my poor baby surge staff.

[tulip trench]

im good with audio cues and catch them ahead of time

[lyric burrow]

oh wait im right flamers yeah

anything that makes a spawn noise

[tulip trench]

ok... is crucian roulette any good?

[lethal lagoon]

It's second to surgical

Good alternative

[lyric burrow]

its decent but a lot of people like surgical hand cannon now

cause rending is so good

[lethal lagoon]

Surgical plus hand cannon is undisputed best.

roulette plus hand cannon is 2nd place.

[potent echo]

I think crucian loses to the melee one

[digital narwhal]

Love it when my team can't handle themselves, thus forcing me to clutch, and then call me ass when I get surprised by 6 silent Ragers who box me without so much as a sound beforehand.

[lyric burrow]

im glad i dont get toxic people lol

its the reason i stopped playing some games like siege

[digital narwhal]

Ragers gotta make more noise, man

[bitter escarp]

had that a couple days ago when some idiot on a boltgun vet was very vocal about how I should be playing my ogryn

[digital narwhal]

Ragers, Maulers and Crushes

They all need to be louder

[bitter escarp]

because I wasn't using my charges according to the way he wanted

[lethal lagoon]

Ragers have silently one shot me on psyker more times than I can count

[lyric burrow]

crushers in particular have just been sneaking up on me recently but i might just be bad

[lethal lagoon]

Super fucking quiet for something named "rager"

[lethal lagoon]

Game has bugged spawns that come from thin air

[bitter escarp]

man finished the game with half my damage

[wet cloak]

The only toxic person I've seen in the latest month was a vet complaining that I wasn't killing the elites fast enough, while not killing anyone himself and completely ignoring the fact that it's also supposed to be his job

Yeah that was unusual.

[lethal lagoon]

I saw it 3rd person once, a crusher literally spawned from mid-air behind me

[bitter escarp]

tbf it's not anyone's job in particular at this point

[lethal lagoon]

I've seen them spawn in slowly all the time too

[bitter escarp]

but the blame cope is always strong with these types

simultaneously victim and victor

[wet cloak]

Fair, but lets say vet has the best toolset for the job at any range.

[lethal lagoon]

Scoreboard would fix all those backseaters and toxic players who are actuall shit at the game

Like if you wanna talk shit, at least be good lmao

Every single shit talker I've run into is in last place or 3rd

[lethal lagoon]

Esp the ones who shit talk on mic

[bitter escarp]

dude got dragged in the evac valkyrie

I quote from him "if you don't know how to play just say so"

[spice veldt]

pub ogryns tend to complain about me being out of coherency

[wet cloak]

Btw can anyone assist me with a voidstrike build? I'm thinking the surge build I've had before with warp siphons will function just as well with the voidstrike.

[spice veldt]

haven't had any other classes do so yet

[lethal lagoon]

Might want weakspot hits = crit for voidstrike

[bright ether]

go purgatus

[lethal lagoon]

If you have surge blessing for voidstrike

[bright ether]

i swapped to purge from surge and i've been having a blast

[wet cloak]

I use assail for my horde clear

[steel flame]

acrotash? not in coherency? perish the thought

[lethal lagoon]

otherwise yeah, you can just copy and past a staff build

[spice veldt]

true i would never

[bitter escarp]

voidstrike does well for horde clear too

[wet cloak]

I have warp nexus and warp flurry

[bright ether]

ooof just got fatal memory error

[limber silo]

Man, idk what it is, but I just can't handle this new map on damnation+

[bitter escarp]

can be peril neutral or close to it with a transfer peril blessing

[lethal lagoon]

New map is definitely harder, gotta focus on the chokepoints as a general rule of thumb.

[limber silo]

too many open spaces and whatnot

[lethal lagoon]

My damage numbers on the new map auric t5 are what a mael should be.

[steel flame]

sounds like you need to download more ram

[bright ether]

yeah prob im gonna see if anyone on craigslist has any hardcopies to sell first

[lethal lagoon]

also wtf, I haven't found the new map as a mael yet

I feel like it should be a 50% chance on release or something

[steel flame]

it was before, and people got annoyed by it

[lethal lagoon]

People are dumb

[lyric burrow]

new map is pretty hard

histg on it might be hardest thing ive done

[lethal lagoon]

To be fair, compared to the other maps, this one is so well designed.

It's literally everything I want from a map

[bright ether]

i really like it tbh

[lyric burrow]

yeah i love it

[bitter escarp]

new map is a rough time if you run into the heavy weapons company

[spice veldt]

i wish the finale was also a rush event

[lethal lagoon]

The ending is like hab dreyko good, but without the entire bad part of hab dreyko

[lyric burrow]

but its always my highest damage map

cause theres just so much

although if you dont grab the first event as soon as its done it can get a little insane

[bitter escarp]

I don't do shield as a general rule, but when I started using bubble shield my anal sphincter got a lot less exercise

[wet cloak]

You need true aim and surge blessing for a voidstrike staff?

Damn

[bitter escarp]

people are just not remotely prepared to fight that many shooters in openish spaces

[steel flame]

kinda wish they had walled off the stadium entrance

[lethal lagoon]

Void is kinda mid without surge in my opinion(IF THE GAME EVER GET ME SURGE I COULD BACK THIS UP WITH EXPERIENCE)

[lyric burrow]

Surge is very good yeah

[lyric burrow]

Yeah fs

[bitter escarp]

Surge is the psyker's power cycler

[steel flame]

cause its really the first place people go to to form a choke point

[lyric burrow]

Domes really nice

[bitter escarp]

dome turns bonehead positioning into bonehead implant

[lethal lagoon]

Stadium entrance cheese ruins the final area

[bitter escarp]

still stupid but at least functional

[lethal lagoon]

I hope they fix it or punish it

[lyric burrow]

Saves a potential wipe at least

Possibly

[lethal lagoon]

I want excitment, if I can't lose, I'll probably quit till next major patch

Just like last time

Losing some plasteel, beh, who cares.

Die fighting.

[wet cloak]

So surge and warp flurry?

[bitter escarp]

the director is going through a messy divorce too

[lethal lagoon]

Surge nexus

[lyric burrow]

Surge warp nexus

[bitter escarp]

has no fucking chill it's great

[wet cloak]

Damn, I was hoping you won't say that

[lethal lagoon]

Do you have surge already?

[bitter escarp]

people were getting too cocky because of the nerfed spawns to accommodate console players

[wet cloak]

I might have to sacrifice my current voidstrike to get IV flurry

But thanks for the help

[supple skiff]

feel like the new mission melts consoles at places

I run the game fine, but there at spots there where I chug now

[glass delta]

Hi. I'm new to Psyker. Should I keep these perks as is? Or change them?

[supple skiff]

damn nice staff

[glass delta]

I know. I was surprised at the double tier 4 blessings.

[supple skiff]

with those you can lean into using it to delete big targets

[fierce spoke]

What counts as an elite enemy for the challenge?

aka keep your distance

[supple skiff]

carapace, maniac, crit chance and unyeilding are all good

[bitter escarp]

ragers, shotgunners, maulers, crushers, gunners, reapers, bulwarks

basically everything that's not sitting around the sniper in the psykhanium

[supple skiff]

something like that can one shot a crusher on a crit no problem

[wet cloak]

What does the IV do for surge?

[glass delta]

@supple skiff Ok. Thanks.

[wet cloak]

It's always 2 shots on a crit, right?

[white hemlock]

Hrmmmm

[lunar sparrow]

okay, I see why nobody uses Brain Rupture on higher difficulties

[supple skiff]

yeah

so two shot a crusher technically

[trim garnet]

wym

surge is tier 4 only, doubles shots fired on crit for both lmb and rmb

comical levels of damage given that both shots benefit from the crit damage increase as well

[lethal lagoon]

If you are going to do a fake post work on the math lmao

I haven't seen a fake screenshot in a long time

I thought people got bored of that troll

[potent echo]

Fake post?

[lethal lagoon]

People come in posting 1-million perfect Hadron rolls

Used to happen pretty often

Sometimes they would screw up the blessing graphic

[potent echo]

Oh yea the math is wrong

[clear heath]

modifiers not adding up was actually a display bug at some point. Not sure if that still happens though

it was well known around launch

[lethal lagoon]

Still unlikely to be real

🤷‍♂️

The UwU new psyker how's my perfect impossible RNG weapon

[potent echo]

It's possible, I doubt it matters anyway, not like you can trade

[lethal lagoon]

Was so common

I don't get why they do it

[potent echo]

I don't even know its a thing people do

[lethal lagoon]

I thought they stopped doing it, was common when the game first dropped and it was more RNG to get a perfect weapon

[potent echo]

They should post fake scoreboards instead

[lethal lagoon]

Doesn't have the same impact nowadays, cause it's so much easier to get a BIS weapon

[potent echo]

And say they used knife smite and recon lasgun

[lethal lagoon]

lmao

[wet cloak]

I did not know this, I've never seen surge.

[fierce spoke]

So mutants and hounds arent a worry...

got it

slightly worrisome but at least manageable-ish... kinda...

[strong gulch]

It's just a flesh wound. I'm not down. See I'm still standing.

[wet cloak]

MY EYES

Goddamn you need to turn down the gamma or something.

[potent echo]

Reshade?

[strong gulch]

You're looking directly into fire to be fair.

[spice veldt]

the game looks pretty beautiful when potato settings aren't used, huh

[wet cloak]

If there's one thing that's good in this game, then it's level design.

[potent echo]

I'm now playing on low because of all the stupid frame drops

And I'm still getting frame drops

Shartfard

[wide galleon]

Why do the assail tracers look like someone added them in Paint

[fading iris]

Too angry to die

[strong gulch]

Just in denial.

https://tenor.com/view/triggerfav-kick-flesh-wound-gif-13424530

[fading iris]

nothing but an scratch!

[strong gulch]

IT'S DONE. I finally got surge blessing.

@spice veldt You get it yet??

[spice veldt]

ye i got another surge after I deleted my first one some time recently

[strong gulch]

noice

[limber silo]

surge any good? Voidstrike seems to struggle with having too many synergies, not enough blessin slots

[strong gulch]

surge good 👍

[limber silo]

I want flurry, but I also want transfer peril, nexus, blazing spirit, AND surge

maybe no transfer and nexus at the same time, but you get my ponit

useful, but not busted anymore

[spice veldt]

still good

has 10 max ammo to burn through

[limber silo]

it's some good burst crowd clear

[silent coral]

is there any reason to use between the eyes over ghost? the latter seems a straight upgrade?

[spice veldt]

on the laspistol, no

on other weapons, not really either

because the problem with BtE is that it's going to be hard to land headshots if your weapon is one that jumps around while suppressed

the laspistol is one of the weapons that doesn't move around much from suppression, and you can always just hipfire

[potent echo]

The main weapon that suffers from suppression are infantry lasguns

All other guns dont really care

[silent coral]

wait just to clarify your saying for pistol BTE is better than ghost?

[spice veldt]

assail can kill enemies at range so feel free to bring whatever on your ranged slot

[spice veldt]

ghost is better

definitively so

[willow hazel]

The revolver would like a word

[potent echo]

Revovlers suffers from suppression?

[willow hazel]

Yes

[potent echo]

I guess I never waited long enough for them to shoot me

[limber silo]

maybe change the specialist to maniac damage?

[bold maple]

not 380 base rating so trash clearly

[potent echo]

If you care about oneshotting dreg gunners, you need unarmored

If not a fully charged headshot won't kill it

But people tell me just shoot twice sooo

[lethal lagoon]

If you change any perks, you can't replace flurry with surge in the future

Might not be worth.

That is basically ideal stats after all

[bold maple]

10% elite dmg and 25% flak armor

always

[potent echo]

10% enough to kill dreg gunner?

[bold maple]

I kill them with headshot even without full charge so

[potent echo]

With warp rider and warp charges and perfect timing right?

[strong gulch]

🇫

[sturdy dagger]

Now hit zero

Make a statement

[strong gulch]

Oof. Finally trying surge + nexus void. Void charge feels like butt without flurry. It feels slow even with flurry.

[potent echo]

Yea I switched off from nexus surge because of that, flurry is still bearable

[strong gulch]

I wasn't ready 😂

[potent echo]

Vets go brrrrrt

Oh lmao the end

[strong gulch]

Fair. I'm going to try the ole nexus + surge build and try to treat it like revolver or something.

[atomic zephyr]

Flurry/surge void with the guaranteed crit w/ 5 weakspot talents make surge more fun imo. The nexus makes it too slow and must stay at high peril.

[potent echo]

I do flurry transfer the oldie

[potent echo]

Yea maybe this should be the way, like a really slow revolver

Melee then pull out and slowly charge one ball

[stuck bridge]

ah yes

about to go to bed, try my luck at rolling surge on voidstrike, immediately get it first roll

[solid elk]

Is this something worth building on?

[hidden crystal]

Burn is above the 76% threshold, but you generally want Cloud Radius as high as possible.

[solid elk]

I will keep gamblin' then!

[hidden crystal]

Damage isn't very important on the Purg, as that's only the direct damage, and most of the Purg's damage output is through soulblaze.

[solid elk]

What about burn?

[hidden crystal]

Needs to be at least 76, unless the thresholds have changed recently.

Not to say damage is meaningless, but it's a safe dump stat.

[near wyvern]

A perfect example why a well timed disabler is enough to ruin your day 😅

[lethal lagoon]

Yeppers

[near wyvern]

Why censor your own name out of it? 😂

[ornate hamlet]

Fellas, I remember someone saying surge with the psionics fix killed it, but like

It still feels particularly 🐐

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is literally bugged atm to do -50% damage at random times 😆

Also I love base surge, it's OP as fuck, you can just auto-walk into shooter hordes

[near wyvern]

No, it's the stealth change that it targets a random body part. And it's not dead, just requires a well thought build. Crushers and maulers are pain in the ass to kill because the limb targetting but other than that it's still perfectly usable.

[lethal lagoon]

My surge will randomly not one shot shooter mobs.

That's not usable

The whole point of surge was that you could insta one-shot shooter mobs

I really hope limb targeting get's hotfixed

[hidden crystal]

That said, listening to that on headphones, I was thinking "DEAL WITH THE FRAGGING MUTANT BEHIND YOU!"

[near wyvern]

+Unarmoured +Flak, Warp Siphon up to battery, top up Perfect Timing and you should be up to speed, especially with Warp Rider and 50+ peril

[lethal lagoon]

The whole point was that it one-shot shooter mobs under any condition.

Not perfect ones

Meh

It was old reliable for dealing with shooter hordes, put it above any other staff

[tulip trench]

team bee lines forward into a small hallway with more enemies +high shock spawns while hearing a hoard spawn behind us
cue 8 crushers/bulwarks and 200 maulers on either side

[near wyvern]

This is not some 'theoretical' best conditions, those are very realistic conditions to keep up at all times. For regular shooter trash I need minimum charge to one shot.

With those

All of them stack naturally even if you don't even try for them

[clear heath]

max stack perfect timing and 40+ peril are pretty reasonable conditions yeah

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think those perks are "natural"...

[clear heath]

I still don't think surge is very good at the moment

[lethal lagoon]

Also, I've been trying to run EP Smite/Surge for 3 patches now, and it's been bugged all 3.

Sorry If I'm being hostile, just annoyed atm.

[ornate hamlet]

I mean, I understand the random targeting being a problem, but it feels like what I vaguely remember of someone saying surge got killed was a bit... exaggerated

[obtuse moth]

Crit based Talent for a Crit based weapon and 20% more warp damage aren't natural talents for a surge staff build?

[lethal lagoon]

Those aren't perks lmao

Those are talents

[near wyvern]

#psyker-class message

Proof that you can still pull your weight with surge

[lethal lagoon]

I'm aware.

Doesn't mean it doesn't feel like shit

[hidden crystal]

Yeah, I keep mixing up the terms too.

[clear heath]

It's very playable and i can still do good damage on a build with it.
It's just that it's starting to feel a lot like the talent tree is doing most of the work.
Surge is playable the same way an assail build or creeping flames build without even equipping a ranged weapon is playable.

[potent echo]

Anything is playable if you are good enough

[clear heath]

I've been running surge + smite with warp charges and creeping flames spam. Yes i'm doing damage but soulblaze is 50% of it

[lethal lagoon]

I top frag with meme builds all the time, it's not a good argument.

[clear heath]

the staff isn't really doing much anymore

[obtuse moth]

Uh, weapon perks are either all natural or all unnatural. You can pick anything you want

And two come with every upgraded weapon

Talents I could see missing, but saying that a weapon perk is unnatural?

[lethal lagoon]

Unnatural to make up for a bug by running unarmored and flak 🤷‍♂️

Ima probably give it a try anyways

It'd be nice if it still one shot shooter mobs

thanks for the suggestion

[white hemlock]

20% block efficiency + deflection iv is hilarious btw. I was thinking about possibly changing that perk, but being able to just walk up to a pack of shotgunners/stubber is fantastic, especially if the team capitolizes on it before I hit melee

[lethal lagoon]

They need to make deflection innate on force swords

it makes sense anyways

[white hemlock]

Agreed

[lethal lagoon]

It's a big shield lmao

[white hemlock]

Yea, the default block is just a shield lmao

[potent echo]

Big mind shield but worse block than dagger

[dim parrot]

siblings, I have forsaken surge and gone back to void

[white hemlock]

Void is love. Void is life. Never left it lol

[obtuse moth]

The context was talents and the use of the natural terminology

[dim parrot]

lmao it was my first staff ever ^^

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, and unarmored is not a "natural" perk to use on surge

It's flak, crit, carpace, etc.

[clear heath]

stick with surge and outdamage them with a bad staff to flex on people

[dim parrot]

my new void has such a good roll too its lovely ^^

[white hemlock]

Funny enough, I'd used the others first and then got a decent one. Never looked back. The CRACK when it explodes someone's chest is enough to keep using it lol

[lethal lagoon]

Gibbing was such a good add to surge, shame it's the reason for bug

[steel flame]

lololololol, so ive been leveling up vet cause the new right side tree is actually fun, and im playing with laspistol and dagger and this other vet got salty cause he kept dying and decided it was MY fault he wasnt able to fight in melee and that i sucked and had to be carried by him and it was fucking hilarious

[lethal lagoon]

I can't wait till the staff is all done

[lethal lagoon]

Case #217 for implementing scoreboard in native DarkTide.

[potent echo]

Vets being salty in pubs, news at 11

[obtuse moth]

The natural use of a perk is to reach breakpoints or make a weapon better in utility or killing specific enemy units

[steel flame]

he was raging hard in voice chad

[white hemlock]

My staff doesn't quite one shot things that I'd like, even with 6 warp charges, but that's fine because I can more or less spam it forever

[clear heath]

I don't think it was the reason for the bug though

[steel flame]

it was great

[potent echo]

Ew voice chat users

[lethal lagoon]

Right, and it's not natural to use a perk to make up for a bug.

[potent echo]

Block immed

[lethal lagoon]

Voice chat users who complain and bitch while having the lowest damage...

[clear heath]

Surge was bugged to use smite stuff even before it had gibbing

it had the +1 chain thing on patch 13

[potent echo]

They should have a scoreboard mod to implement highest decibel recorded from voice

[lethal lagoon]

It probably had EP on patch 13 too, just nobody noticed.

[clear heath]

yeah probably

[white hemlock]

I don't have any mods so I have no idea if my damage is good. I just play a jack of all

I'm sure it's at least good enough because the void calls

[hidden crystal]

Well, continuing the saga of seeing how well my old marksman psyker build can be recovered (and I have now got back up to speed enough to clear Mercantile HL-70-04 on Damnation) , I dropped back to a Heresy mission again because I didn't fancy doing any of the Damns that were on offer at the time.

Ran into a Vet who'd brought two +1 Wound Curios, and by the Emperor, he was going to use them...

(As far as my death, it was another team who didn't understand you have to follow the servo-skull's actual path for it to move, and you can't just run to where you know it's going. As such, I got badly isolated and the team didn't rescue me in time).

[lethal lagoon]

Not top plasteel, blocked. 😡

[sturdy dagger]

It doesnt take much 2 do this these days...

I was just spamming smite and somehow have top dmg on damnation

[lethal lagoon]

On the new map?

I found it to be really set up well for smite

[obtuse moth]

DT builds are often balanced around bugs, perhaps you're ethically opposed but builds in the wild use them all the time. Thrust, rampage, handcannon etc. They're pretty endemic and natural to expect to see.

[obtuse moth]

That would just be people tieing for 0dB

[lethal lagoon]

What's the bug with thrust?

[sturdy dagger]

Yeah

[lethal lagoon]

Also yeah, I try not to run OP bug builds more than once.

[sturdy dagger]

But I wasnt even doing shriek fire smite

It was dome support smite... no EP......

[lethal lagoon]

People underestimate smite when it comes to really dense enemy spawns

New map has a lot of it.

[sturdy dagger]

I don't think we do, your teammates should be out dmging it

People just kinda suck

[lethal lagoon]

well smite does basically the same dps per enemy whether it's 1 enemy or 200.

Soooo

[sturdy dagger]

Pretty sure smite does actually have a limit

[obtuse moth]

It did like 3x+ more damage than it was supposed to, same with the grenade gauntlet charge blessing. People were using it for I don't even know many months until it got fixed.

[hidden crystal]

Given that in the end it doesn't matter who picks it up, often I'll ping it if someone else is closer.

Aside from that, I also tend to prefer not to be the muppet who gets downed and triggers a complete wipe by getting distracted by shiny stuff in the middle of a fight.

[clear heath]

I vaguely remember an old patched bug where thrust gave like 50% power per stack

[strong gulch]

I thought they fixed thrust a long time ago. Was it bugged again?

[clear heath]

it should be fixed

[obtuse moth]

Not afaik, was just an example of a bugged weapon build

[potent echo]

They fixed chastise and thrust right?

Now you can charge the heavy then chastise

[clear heath]

the chastise and thrust bug was fixed current patch i think

[potent echo]

Yea then big brothers called purg and trauma in the corner

[lethal lagoon]

Smite is the ignored middle child who goes no-contact and becomes super rich

[hot zephyr]

Really liking this battery gunner build with Ia Lasgun + Rashad

[sturdy dagger]

Battery? With guns?

[hot zephyr]

My perks/blessings are super garbo right now cus I'm having to retool everything, but it's feeling really nice

[untold widget]

I mean, smite is just good overall. People get up in arms about the low damage, but being able to lock down every mauler, crusher, bulwark, rager and mutant that the game sends at you is not really something to argue about

[hot zephyr]

It's just the Atheneum example build, nothing fancy, but it's working for me

[potent echo]

Psylot?

[sturdy dagger]

Why....

Warp battery cdr doesn't even work with scriars I thought

[obtuse moth]

Smite depends on players having awareness. Turns into zero utility when they run off or just smack poxwalkers

[sudden trellis]

crit smite setup? huh. does it actually smoke hordes?

[lethal lagoon]

Avg smite user just spams it with 0 awareness, yeah

[hot zephyr]

You basically aren't using scriers really anyways except when you see a special pack and can rebuild your stacks quickly

[sturdy dagger]

I've never used this weird ass gun build, I'd use DD or EP assail

[hearty dagger]

Fellas, what do maulers count as for perks? Carapace or Flak?

[sturdy dagger]

But I wanna hear scriar voicelines

[sturdy dagger]

Both, mostly flak

Weapon dependant

[tulip trench]

ok..
decent blue colomnus reward? or keep with purple

[hearty dagger]

Surge staff, thinking of getting a new one because the one i have is uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

a bit questionable

[sturdy dagger]

Dont use it

[mighty olive]

i feel like i'm struggling with builds now with psyker >_<

[sturdy dagger]

Badly bugged

[golden tartan]

Blu

[sturdy dagger]

Literal rng

[hearty dagger]

Surge staff is bugged?

How so?

[lethal lagoon]

Randomly targets limbs and does -50% damage or so

[hearty dagger]

I see

Good thing i was thinking of levelling a Trauma i guess

[near wyvern]

They even trigger the blocking animation if you get shot without deflector from the front 😂

[odd siren]

aw really

surge is bugged

I love surge

[fading iris]

I'll stay on surge staff ++ THE EMPEROR PROTECTS ++

[bleak tulip]

hard to say if its a bug because the change was deliberate but its so ass backwards of a change that it seems like it was intended for smite and it just inherited it again

[fading iris]

Yes and no for all the options, this is Chaos doing!

[sturdy dagger]

I'm calling it a bug cause I refuse 2 believe fatshark are this stupid

[strong gulch]

Gave surge void a fair shot. It's fine. Be it with flurry or nexus, I don't love playing with it. Make getting DD marks kinda fun tho.

That being said, I can see people liking it more now compared to pre patch 13.

[potent echo]

Last patch it was pretty fun

Hitscan 25m range

Deletes most specials

You can even use it like a true scrub and sweep your screen after casting

It will latch onto something if there is

[strong gulch]

@near wyvern I gave revolver smite a solid try. It was fun and it carried.

I tried in patch 13, but it was on baby difficulty while I was playing with a friend who hadn't played since launch, so I didn't get a feel for it then.

[strong gulch]

Yeah. I wanted to try it while it was EXTRA, but I wasn't able to get surge blessing until today.

[hot zephyr]

I gotta say after trying Assail and Smite with this battery gunner build, the smite version really works much better

The CC is invaluable

[strong gulch]

Good CC trauma base, but I want damage.

[potent echo]

Trauma damage isn't super important

[strong gulch]

I WANT 80 DAMAGE

[potent echo]

I think as long as you can oneshot bruisers I'll call it a day

[strong gulch]

NO

[potent echo]

[fading iris]

Aim for the 380

[primal plume]

Old Surge
Can kill a Bulkwark in 4 fully charged casts

Current Surge
Needed 6 fully charged casts to kill a single Bulwark

Where can I apply to be a tester for Fatshark because they apparently need them

[glossy ember]

achktually

it killed crushers in 3 casts

and now it's like between 4 and 8

[strong gulch]

Gib me full flak and crit chance. ALSO T4 blazing spirit.

more quell speed

100% peril to get a crusher on surge staff now

[strong gulch]

It's the dream.

[ornate hamlet]

Does Assail crit?

[sturdy dagger]

Yes

[steel egret]

Yes

[ornate hamlet]

Sweet, thanks.

[vale creek]

i will

i will

idk

[bold flint]

thats what the purple trails are

[gilded solar]

Did they somehow fixed disrupt destiny? The marked target are now mostly in the place that I can see them. Not like the old one that marked that one at the back, behind the wall or 100,000 mile away from me.

[ionic dune]

There a particular modifier that's fine as a dump stat for the Purgatus Force Staff?

[gilded solar]

Warp resist or Quell Speed? that my guess. Don't trust me, I'm also have no idea.

[manic halo]

Fatshark somtimes stealth patches stuff so if that’s happening consistently ye

[opal pebble]

@sturdy dagger @strong gulch @sturdy dagger thanks for the reccomendation to go to trauma loving it alot.

[ionic dune]

Hmm. I kinda figured Quell Speed or Damage, but wasn't wholly sure as I'm new to Psyker and don't know exactly where the damage spread largely comes from

Reason I ask is 'cus I got a 368 one just (low I know) with this spread

if Warp Resistance is an ideal stat though then I'd not take the efforts to upgrade it y'know.

[lucid horizon]

what is less important in the electric weapon, quell speed o charge rate?

[dim parrot]

I would say charge rate

but the quell speed can't be shit

[summer prairie]

in reality probably charge rate (to an extent)

less important that is

[lucid horizon]

thanks!

[idle bay]

Quell speed is dump stat now. Because we have skill node that fixes even worst Quells Speed stat

[sturdy dagger]

Surge? Dont use it

[summer prairie]

I don't remember the range but usually when it's a difference of a few 0.01s it's hard to argue it matters

[lucid horizon]

the weapon is so glitches right now

[summer prairie]

every time you full charge you are wasting much more time just due to not letting go immediately when it's full

[dim parrot]

void is my new surge

[lucid horizon]

yes but if u full charge u can insta kill elites

[summer prairie]

If your charge speed stat improvements are in the range of 0.0x, it's hard to see how it can be better than quell speed when e.g. having to quell one less tick means saving 0.25s (or 0.175 with Solitude)

but yeah in many cases you still quell the same # of ticks, if all you do is sit at max peril

[sturdy dagger]

4/10 times lmao

New bug makes it a joke

[quasi junco]

imagine not using trauma staff

[dim parrot]

imagine wagons

[idle bay]

Still using Surge on normal danmation. it's awkward at times but usable. But on HI-Int STG it wil get me killed for sure 🙂

I just use LMB more than charged attack

[glossy ember]

imo damage = crit > charge rate > quell > warp res

[ornate hamlet]

I wondered what that was. Thanks.

[idle bay]

Psyker with KD can block Crusher's overhead and just loose all Toughness from it with NO health damage

[strong gulch]

Yes and true. The one target up in the loading room. 🙃 😂

[strong gulch]

No problem 👍

[sage token]

can i post my build here?

[bold flint]

ya

[bold flint]

it just sets me to 50 peril and downs me anyway

[bold flint]

what kinda fuckin build can tank a crusher overhead

[sage token]

feels good. true old school if you use obscuras

[strong gulch]

It's a good one. The main things on purg are cloud radius 80 and burn 76+. Warp resist is nice since you can spray fire for longer.

More info here. Check the Surge and Purge staves section.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2917274959

[bold flint]

i used mind in motion with bb so itll never feel oldschool to me

[idle bay]

Yesterday i survived that overhead block in Damnation. The only reason i'm saying it. I need to some tests in Meat Grinder then . Maybe block efficiency and stamina ammount helped

[glossy ember]

ogryn

[glossy ember]

i'd switch crit dmg to flak on the staff

[bold flint]

for psyker ya blud

[glossy ember]

flak too important (once it's debugged)

[sturdy dagger]

Stop saying its usable folk like u are gonna stop it from getting buffed when it cant even consistently 1 tap a shooter

Oh the reply bugged

Thanks discord

[sturdy dagger]

.

[idle bay]

That is why i say it's awkward at moments. And if you can't handle broken bugged Surge.. well i can say something about skill issue but i will not

[glossy ember]

oh and on illisi switch the weakspot to maniacs

[feral seal]

Do I betray my dueling sword?

[bold flint]

just put flak and unarmored on your surgie

[idle bay]

Provided Hadron not brick this thing. Do try to betray your DS 🙂

[idle bay]

Mine have Unyelding 🙂

[strong gulch]

You stacking something with KD? Stamina? Toughness? Cuz I am not aware of being able to tank a crusher overhead like that.

[bleak tulip]

implying FS read this chat

[bleak tulip]

if they did they'd have made BB less bad like a year ago

[feral seal]

[bleak tulip]

its fine it was only a 350

[idle bay]

Imagine my surprise when i survived crusher's overhead block.
I'm for sure had Stamina 5 and 20% Block efficiency and some (lets say 30%) Toughness DR and 120 Toughness. I really need to do some tests today later 🙂

[feral seal]

Warp res is dump stat though so it was really good..

[bleak tulip]

sure but also meh

youll get another

[idle bay]

Well at least it's two T4 blessings... for collection. Betrayal of dueling sword averted 🙂

[feral seal]

I will never betray my mid beloved

[glossy ember]

i'll give it a go but if i still can't consistantly one shot shotgunners at the very least then it's a lost cause

[sturdy dagger]

I'm more worried about the use rate

If its 0 it will get buffed

Surely

But instead were changing perks to hopefully 1 tap a shooter

[idle bay]

Or just wait it out untill it fixed

[sturdy dagger]

[idle bay]

2 more weeks or so

Then they'll break something else about Surge or nerf somewting about it deliberately 🙂

Thinking about using broken Surge now- imaging how powerful it will feel to use it again after it fixed ? 🙂 It will be like wearing shoes 1 size smaller while day to remove then at evening and feel best relief ever

[hidden crystal]

Unless it's been changed, overheads have Block Bypass, and cannot be blocked with any level of stamina, block efficiency, or other buffs - only shields supersede Block Bypass.

You've either witnessed a bug, or what happened isn't what you thought.

[idle bay]

That is why i want to test those possibilities.

[bleak tulip]

nothing you can say in this chat wil notably impact the usage rate of anything as like 99% of people playing this game arent here and dont care enough to read about this shit anyway

which is likely also the reason BB never got buffed in any sensible way because "it works fine in malice"

[sturdy dagger]

https://tenor.com/view/im-doing-my-part-serious-stare-gif-11979677

[bleak tulip]

same reason the assail nerfs are dogshit

[idle bay]

I'd say Assail now is in good place. Not nerfed but tuned to be what it supposed to be .. probably

[sturdy dagger]

id say assail lowkey needs a rework cause either its gonna feel like shit or be busted

i cant look at it the same anymore knowing it takes like 5-6 shards for a rager and it takes longer 2 comeback

people take it into malice and heresy and annoy there local vet legion buy killing all the gunners and it gets its 5th nerf

[bold flint]

assail is fine in gunpsyker 🙂

[limber tartan]

It's all about who gets to them first

[bold flint]

shit out all your shards, swap to your columny iauto

[idle bay]

malice players don;t complain on fatshark forums that "Assail is too much that they can't even " i don't see any further nerfs coming assail way

[idle bay]

Exactly! All shards out - Peril up - Warp Rider bonus up - time to spread some lead or lasbeams

[limber tartan]

Assail is a good tool to get rid of groups of weaker enemies

As an alternative to shooting them, since if you're taking a gun you are not in the highest ammo priority soo you can save ammo for something that is more worth it that assail can't kill

[bleak tulip]

malice players complain only on reddit at most is the thing

[idle bay]

And they do it with Memes

Some of them good memes

[limber tartan]

They don't know that the game really starts at damnation

[quasi junco]

Is this OK for a trauma staff? Or should I change maniac to carapace?

[summer prairie]

maniac to crit chance

[bleak tulip]

https://www.reddit.com/r/DarkTide/comments/17w3w4v/this_is_hell/ this mfer cant even kill more than two ragers with a columnus

[idle bay]

He kills 4 according to kill feed. But it takes AGES to kill 2 first ones. WTF? Is his Columus shoot wet noodle?

[bold flint]

columnus actually doesnt have that great of a range

but his mistake was moving into probably the worst position you could be in facing a wave of ragers

[idle bay]

That is almost hug-distance - should work

[sturdy dagger]

how is this possible

hes using exe stance aswell

i swear i could kill 10 ragers with 1 clip using exe on colomnus

[idle bay]

Hitreg issue?

[bold flint]

hes also out of stamina and using deadeye

so he got like 4 shots worth of crits and then fizzed the rest

the recoil when moving isnt the most controllable thing either, so half the mag probably went over the heads of the front and into the back

[paper tusk]

Hellom ogryn trying psyker, is there any guide about weapon, class, build and buff like the ogrynomicron ?

[bold flint]

theres the 2nd pin

but not sure how up to date that is

[potent echo]

And he backed himself into the corner as well lol

[idle bay]

it's quite up to date 🙂

[viscid matrix]

[viscid matrix]

Updated whenever there is a change

[idle bay]

Also in recent video we can finally hear how Pygex sounds. Though my damaged degrading brain can't clearly identify his accent

[viscid matrix]

😉

[paper tusk]

ty 🙂

[potent echo]

He has videos?

[idle bay]

He does 🙂 Channel name same as his nickname

In latests he is showing gun psyker build and explain what he is doing tactic-wise

[plucky flax]

Better than my meme videos.

[idle bay]

It's actualy his first gameplay video. And he shows potential of being good content creator.

I do like how his mind works.

[bleak tulip]

people with 280 base rating weapons in damnation or something

my guess

[sturdy dagger]

bro got the thingamagig

[idle bay]

What mod shows weapon equipped on Mourningstar ?

[sturdy dagger]

weapon customization

[sturdy dagger]

literally 10 ragers gone in 1 clip how did he manage this

[idle bay]

Ah.. i'll restrain myself from using it for silly reason really. Extra textures during the mission - i'm scared of game crash

[sturdy dagger]

i swear 2 god damnation needs some sorta gear rating limit

no white weapons

[plucky flax]

When I clutch I turn brain off and go with the flow

[frail sand]

honestly its less of a weapon issue more of a... skill issue

[idle bay]

Or specifiicly ONLY GRAY WEAPONS mod for Sweatlords

[bleak tulip]

by using a trash gun in a too high difficulty probs

mfers with lv 31 playing auric maelstrom isnt entirely rare unfortunately

[sturdy dagger]

its most my games sadly

i should inspect peoples loadouts more often im sure it would make me angry

[bleak tulip]

thats why you dodge those matches if you can

[sturdy dagger]

i shrimply carry

[bold flint]

from that range? all stacked on top of eachother?

[idle bay]

Qutting a group takes too long in loading times

[sturdy dagger]

1 lived on low hp from further away

[sturdy dagger]

them being stacked or not is irrelevant as far as i can tell he was hitting shots just dealing 0 dmg

[bold flint]

from over there single file rushing at you?

what kinda weird ass test is that

[sturdy dagger]

a dmg test?

[bleak tulip]

this is why I run darkcache even though it sometimes forces me to restart the game

[sturdy dagger]

he hit the shots at similar distance and did fuck all dmg

idk how colomnus is lowkey busted rn

[frail sand]

i wish pub AM teammates knew that they need to push harder and not try to clear the entire horde down to the last poxwalker while sitting in the same spot

[idle bay]

I'm willingly select "suffering" and remain in groups with undersirables. It's chance ti carry and to improve... with high chance to fail 🙂

[sturdy dagger]

ai enabled happy now?

point is this thing shreds and he somehow did nill dmg im just confused

[bold flint]

full stam deadeye as well?

[sturdy dagger]

bro what fucking point are you trying 2 make

[bold flint]

i was hoping the earlier discourse showed it

but he fucking missed into the back crowd and was out of stamina for deadeye

[sturdy dagger]

[bleak tulip]

I just posted like the first video on Reddit to show the average Reddit player probably not solo clutching auric maelstrom hence why balancing isn't done around people who do that usually

you didn't have to psychoanalyse the guy

[bold flint]

anyway heres what wouldve happened if he had slightly better aim

https://medal.tv/games/warhammer-40000-darktide/clips/1E50TSASTrxSb7/d1337irPvPId?invite=cr-MSxhczEsNjY5MDkzMzMs

[harsh urchin]

he didn't even need better aim

he could've used his grenades

and still aimed like shit

[sturdy dagger]

if i got a good second blessing on this i just change unarmoured to maniac and equip higher tier shred?

[harsh urchin]

wait he had deadeye with iag o_O

[sturdy dagger]

flak***

[harsh urchin]

that seems like a very aggressive choice lol

[limber tartan]

Is that a letter opener ?

[near wyvern]

Yeah and since smite stacks true aim now it scales better in patch 15 than in 13 and 14

[ornate hamlet]

my brother in Christ... Don't spend ur money on garbage... 🙏

[idle bay]

I feel urge to complement your latest video. Work on the level of experienced content creator.

[ornate hamlet]

wait 4 lvl bless

[tired knoll]

no you just use mk4 instead

[sturdy dagger]

mk 4 over 2?

but the double stab

[bleak tulip]

?

[sturdy dagger]

am i mixing them up? i thought everyone used mk2

[bleak tulip]

no

[olive ember]

First thing I see tabbing into psyker chat is pygex talking about smite being good cuz it builds true aim

[sturdy dagger]

[tired knoll]

everyone uses 4

[olive ember]

What has psyker become

Mk 4 is the one with double stabs no

[bold flint]

its the most juicer way to squeeze the most damage out

[bleak tulip]

you mean special into heavy? that's something mk4 can do

[sturdy dagger]

alright better question, ive only used colomnus 2 date, idk much about the other 2 infatry autoguns this any good?

[bleak tulip]

I never used the other duels

[olive ember]

Columnus mk 2? That’s the rly shit brauto no?

[harsh urchin]

seems like a juicy way to die if you can't manage your stam well LOL

[olive ember]

The iag for Columnus is mk V

[sturdy dagger]

not the braced no

icky

[limber tartan]

I have tested all the dueling swords both Mk4 and 5 are really good, mk2 is the middle child that tries to be the jack of all trades but fails at all

[harsh urchin]

colum brauto is really good now btw

[bold flint]

you just shoot everything to death no problem, 4 long crit strings kill everything

[sturdy dagger]

oh wait no im just lazy i mean 2 as in to not two/mk 2

[olive ember]

Is it? I’m Psure Columnus brauto still trash

[harsh urchin]

competitive with the agri brauto

nah it's the graia that's trash

[olive ember]

Thought it was the Columnus iag

Oh

The graia brauto

Makes sense I forgot that thing existed

[bold flint]

graia is the blue one

its still dogshit

does no damage still

[ornate hamlet]

hey
HEY
It's a PSYKER CLASS chanel
stop showing me ur ugly autoguns
im turned on...

[harsh urchin]

brautos are a bit out of meta cuz finesse and crit are in rn

[olive ember]

Idk much about the iags other than the Columnus mk V is good

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/horny-wolf-delicious-leonardo-dicaprio-gif-12886697

[harsh urchin]

but brautos are very very good still

i've been carrying hard with my new build

[olive ember]

Are all the hh autoguns are good?

[harsh urchin]

only vrak3 and vrak7

[olive ember]

Ik the vraks 3/7 are like meta

And the burst fire one I saw a clip of it two bursting a crusher

[harsh urchin]

agri9 is kinda in a weird spot

[bold flint]

the agri is fine

but it still gets outperformed by vraks III

[lunar hollow]

columnus brauto is good

the graia is the dogshit one

even even then its better than p12 and before

[plucky flax]

Blaze trauma not meta I don't see anyone using it apart from me. Pls buff.

[olive ember]

Yeye I mixed em up

[olive ember]

Doesn’t every other psyker use it

Arcotash and I both use blaze trauma no?

[fluid knot]

I see a lot of Blaze Trauma's of late tbh

[plucky flax]

Not when I solo queue.

I still see lots of void.

[idle bay]

Fatshark do not kow this 🙂 and can be ticked into buffing

[lunar hollow]

arco plays vet

smh

[olive ember]

Oh well then they use surge staff because the surge staff propagandists won

[sturdy dagger]

surge is dead my guy

[plucky flax]

Void is the most popular since 13 by far.

[olive ember]

No unironically all psykers except like 2 I’ve seen this patch are surge smite psykers

[idle bay]

Only crazy people like me using Surge now

[meager kettle]

I bring it all the time. It just feels nice to spread that blaze

[fluid knot]

Very glad to see the EP bug go, but they didnt need to make it target random body parts

That was just a weird change

[olive ember]

I wanted surge staff buffs ¯_(ツ)_/¯

Instead we got this

[lunar hollow]

in the year 40,000 there is only surge nerfs

[harsh urchin]

even arco ditched psyker

😢

[near wyvern]

Limping, not dead

[olive ember]

I haven’t actually touched my psyker this patch actually

[harsh urchin]

soon pygex will leave too

[olive ember]

Tried surge staff in meat grinder

[harsh urchin]

and psyker will be dead

[olive ember]

And rage quit to zealot

[lunar hollow]

gunpsyker best anyways

[bold flint]

im not a psyker im a veteran 🙂

[meager kettle]

Lead bullets < Mind bullets.

[olive ember]

Martyrdom zealot is still stupid

Everyone talking about how gunners are dangerous now and I kinda just

Run em down

Cuz martyrdom

[idle bay]

Just had to adapt few new techs with Surge to compensate for a bug..

[bleak tulip]

ok boomer

[hasty valve]

At work atm so can’t get a new image, but really like the leftmost Deimos. For the future though how could it be even better (apart from Deflector 4)?

[plucky flax]

Loner stealth martyrdom still most op zealot build

[idle bay]

Psykers look more beefier than any vet due to that armor. Vets look like victims of vegan diet

[olive ember]

Why loner when you can just run more toughness DR instead

Shouldn’t be getting coherency regen anyways

That just means you aren’t running it down hard enough SMH

[plucky flax]

Objectives gaming.

[olive ember]

Fucking do you even zealot bro

[plucky flax]

Yeah I'm probably top 99% zealot.

[olive ember]

Tbh if you are in this discord you are probably already top 50%

And I’m talking about just by existing in this discord

Anyways it’s 5 now

I should go and close my eyes n not be half dead tmrw

Or is it today

Cuz it’s 5 AM

Eh

[idle bay]

i wake for work at 5:30 am

[plucky flax]

I'm really bad zealot can only do 500k damage in 25 mins while grabbing most plasteels and did all the objectives at end event.

[lucid horizon]

is this worth?

[strong gulch]

I saw that. I was kinda cool, and then I thought of surge. 🙃

[sturdy dagger]

u could hold onto it until surge gets buffed ig

[lucid horizon]

but do you think is importat warp resistance?

[copper charm]

Does smite's debuff (those struck reseive 10% more damage) work on monstrosities? I can't put my finger on whether it's useless or useful against them in ways of "help other do more damage".

[sturdy dagger]

not even slightly

[near wyvern]

Yes but the most useful aspect of it is that you hold everything around the monstrosity away from the one fighting it.

So unless there are adds or unless you have a thammer zealot in party it's just better to damage the monstrosity.

[bitter escarp]

been running into a lot of backseat players lately

[strong gulch]

Warp resistance is kinda important on surge. It doesn't have to be 80. Not at all. 34 is kinda low tho.

Give it a try and see if you can manage your peril generation.

[bitter escarp]

kinda people who have 2 wound curios and have Opinions on when to use medicae on Archivum and Carnival

[copper charm]

In my friend group we mostly have krak grenade veterans and only I'm the thunder hammer zealot.

[bitter escarp]

like, bruh, try walking up to those medicae stations after the event

[quartz barn]

Had a stealth zealot the other day, complaining about not using the medpack when the medicae was right around the corner

Claiming that there were going to be 2 more waves until we would reach it

Like how

[half iron]

let john stealthzealot cook💯

[slate cedar]

Man I wish if you kill enemies with the force ability on force swords, their torso exploded instead of just fell over.

[frank moat]

I think you might be able to do that with this

https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/189

[bitter escarp]

I think they might have broke the Surge gibs

mixed feelings, on the one hand, nice gibs

on the other, gets real tiresome

[mental grail]

Praying to the omnissiah for these to return

[potent echo]

they removed the hair for the top piece

[crimson remnant]

Deflector 3 and 4 are the same thing basically. You won’t notice at all

[mental grail]

Why do they look different

Is that a mod?

[ionic needle]

Skin

[mental grail]

oh

[mental grail]

It's over

[lime creek]

hey lads I wanna use the lightning staff for shits and giggles. what blessings y'all suggest? and perks too

[near wyvern]

+Unarmoured +flak and Warp Nexus is a must. You have to run Perfect Timing, Warp Rider and Warp Siphon keystone with Inner Tranquility and Battery for the talents and never ult.

[lime creek]

but what 2nd dblessing then?

[half iron]

i want cool epicly sized collars back