psyker-class

[lethal lagoon]

Scoreboard would shut up bad toxic players

[digital narwhal]

Plus, scoreboards don't show people being saved by Telekine Shields, Taunts, and Commanding Shouts.

[faint oriole]

yall never played left 4 dead or something these things are new people like this will always be a thing on any coop game

[lapis token]

thanks dude!

[digital narwhal]

Scoreboards don't show how the Psyker CC'd a group of Maulers so the Vet could get a revive.

etc. etc.

[lethal lagoon]

They have staggers 🤷‍♂️

[barren arch]

it's both really bad players AND players who are slowly learning about the game and becoming better
Dunning-Krueger effect and all that

[rare storm]

ehhhhhhhh kinda by the staggered enemies

[digital narwhal]

Yeeaahh but still

[hidden crystal]

This... actually worked out reasonably. There's admittedly something of an anti-synergy between Empowered Psionics and Warp Expenditure/Quietitude, in that a lot of your BBs will no longer generate Peril, but it's not terrible in that respect.

[digital narwhal]

it's not nuanced.

[frail sand]

scoreboard doesn't show how many doors opened/closed

[digital narwhal]

That's my point.

It just shows raw stats, not nuanced gameplay.

[lethal lagoon]

and let's be real, mat collection is the most important thing and anyone can do that.

[digital narwhal]

^

[lyric burrow]

yeah thats good

[digital narwhal]

Good build.

[lyric burrow]

how do you feel about assial now? still feels the same to me except maybe slightly less spammy

still does its job vs anything not carapace or unyielding

i really do think its issue stems from so much ammo

[lapis token]

it's one of the instances in which the dev notes were on point and also delivered. was way too easy to run assail almost entire matches previously, now I'm actually finding myself forced to swap to ranged/melee while recharging (in a good way)

[rare storm]

I'd take out quick shards for psychic leeching

[lapis token]

and it's still very strong for unarmored and general fire and forget clear

[frail sand]

where is the most important stat: monstrosity kills by squishing them between doors

[rare storm]

The recharge nerf basically didn't do anything to assail lmao

[digital narwhal]

I'm very much noticing the slower refresh time.
It's enforcing and encouraging an active gameplay loop of swapping back and forth from Assail to weapons.

[lyric burrow]

yeah i will say i at least run out

when i throw all 10 shards

[digital narwhal]

I think Assail is fine now personally.

[lyric burrow]

rather than get most back by the time im done throwing

[lapis token]

I've almost wanted to spec back into Empowered Psionics with it to get more shards. Almost.

[digital narwhal]

Sure you can spend all 10 at once, but you'll be left with very few shards if you need them afterwards.

[daring crescent]

Looks legit. Are there new BB builds I need to look up or should I just mess around with it?

[lyric burrow]

usually if i throw all 10 i needed to throw all 10 lol

10 is a lot

[frail sand]

what do u use alongside assail?

[lyric burrow]

surge and mk4 duelling or illisi

[lethal lagoon]

Highest stats is usually almost always the MVP in my experience though.

🤷‍♂️

[digital narwhal]

You just need Empowered Psionics with the Overpowering Souls node attached to it generally.
Kinetic Flayer and Kinetic Resonance (the nodes attached) aren't necessary either, and just enhance existing gameplay; Kinetic Flayer is generally more for Gun Psyker builds still.

I can make a quick build for you to try out rq

[digital narwhal]

Oh I know, I'm not arguing against that

I'm just saying

[spice veldt]

it's basically the same

[digital narwhal]

Scoreboard doesn't show everything

[spice veldt]

still needs its max ammo count crippled

[lyric burrow]

i would be ok with like 5 max ammo given they want to make the RMB good

[spice veldt]

3-5 would be my number yeah

[lyric burrow]

maybe like 7 with a extra node

[spice veldt]

nah

either that or they remove assail's stagger

[lyric burrow]

id prefer ammo

[spice veldt]

i prefer the stagger

it should be a quickswap weapon

[lyric burrow]

stagger can be used in creative ways

and its quickswap

[spice veldt]

it's on the gunker side of the tree

[untold widget]

Imagine trying to take out a nest of gunners with no stagger on assail

nightmare fuel

[spice veldt]

you shouldnt ever need to throw more than 3 shards at once

[lapis token]

Is Empowered Psionics generally viewed as the stronger keystone for Assail? I'm running Warp Siphon for the bonus damage / CDR on shield which feels good. Tested EP previously but it was hard to figure out how often it was actually proccing unless things were fairly calm and I could keep track, heh.

[lyric burrow]

EP is very good yeah

[frail sand]

cover is still a thing

[spice veldt]

that would be feasible since you can just spam dodges because you don't need to worry about throwing your aim off

[digital narwhal]

Just make it so it doesn't stagger Ragers.
ez

[spice veldt]

the stagger is relevant for things like specials and ragers

[digital narwhal]

Yeah

[untold widget]

I use my mkIV dueling sword for those

[fading iris]

Why simblings are having heated conversations again?

[lyric burrow]

idk if this is heated

i think its just a debate

[spice veldt]

lukewarm compared to the others

[frail sand]

this is like very chill convo

[burnt mulch]

[digital narwhal]

Guaranteed EP on Elite kills with Assail is... strong.

[fading iris]

heated doesn't need to be at boiling point of hell

[lapis token]

hmmm, will then guess I'll spend some time testing out Empowered Pionics again, then. Probably for the best as I do forget to drop my shield sometimes when it would be beneficial to take advantage of teh CDR.

[untold widget]

I stick to my EP Smite Soulblaze Trauma setup for maxiumum handholding

[lyric burrow]

yeah but this isnt even like an argument

nobodys even upset

[lethal lagoon]

Assail is terrible and ruins the balance and needs to be nerfed to just 1 ammo with a 5 second recharge 😡

[untold widget]

angy

[lyric burrow]

we are discussing how we feel about assail

unless you mean a diff convo

[fading iris]

I think that assail should have 20 max ammo with triple the damage

[spice veldt]

EP and assail seems like a balanced combination 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

😡

[digital narwhal]

*quadruple

[lapis token]

I mean...it's still incredibly strong even with the 50% nerf to cooldown lol. Granted I don't play uber hard content but I wouldn't be entirely opposed to some further tweaks down... : |

[lyric burrow]

making the broken part of it better is fine wym

[digital narwhal]

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/rick-and-morty-heist-gif-23353762

[spice veldt]

i'd shoot its ammo economy in the knees

[untold widget]

Assail should have 30 ammo, do slightly more damage, and recharge with ammo pickups

[spice veldt]

people need to learn to quickswap

psyker is a mechanically dead class anyways

and if they want a blitz that they can hold out for more than a few seconds, there's brainburst and smite

[frail sand]

i want assail to have a force spear visual

[lethal lagoon]

Lmao, if people hated assail psykers before, imagine after this lmao.

[untold widget]

lol

[lyric burrow]

i think the main issue is fatshark making something thats meant to be quickswap not quickswap in terms of use

like thats why the nerfs havent landed

[spice veldt]

yeah there's some conflicting design

they're probably not certain with what to do with assail

[lethal lagoon]

I will say, swapping to ability and back on controller is ass

[lyric burrow]

is it not just a button

[lethal lagoon]

When beta came out I tried playing controller cause I had fingie issues, and I literally suffered through the pain.

Cause it was that bad

on controller

[lyric burrow]

damn

[spice veldt]

prob just not enough digits

grow octopus fingers or something

[fading iris]

just make that one assail shard one shot the whole map, perfectly balanced

[untold widget]

One assail shard that recharges only on Elite or Special kill could be interesting

[spice veldt]

or blitzes can no longer generate EP charges

[lyric burrow]

honestly i like this

[fading iris]

no more puny lil shards, make it BEEG

[lyric burrow]

would play into quickswap

[digital narwhal]

How to fuck Brain Burst: 101

[lyric burrow]

for assail specifically

[lethal lagoon]

How to free* Brain Burst: 101

[lyric burrow]

at least

[daring crescent]

Please and thanks. I'm looking up other builds too and most seem gun related.

I'm too lazy to swap out my void staff though

[lethal lagoon]

EP is as much of a boon as a shackle to BB

[spice veldt]

yeah, I think we might have to make EP do different things for each blitz

[digital narwhal]

Staff or Gun?

[spice veldt]

the description will have to be longer though

[hidden crystal]

That's my core criticism of the scoreboard.

It doesn't show things like the cretin who keeps exploding Poxbursters in your face that you were completely ready to push back, or the player who wasn't going for maximum DPS but was carefully watching the team's flanks; everything's more efficient if your ranged clear doesn't have to keep stopping to chop groaners to bits, or your horde clear hasn't got to keep trying to evade incoming fire. Sometimes the best thing is not your own performance, but freeing up other players to do what they need to.

[spice veldt]

at least for assail, which has good quickswap properties, it shouldn't be able to generate charges

[daring crescent]

STAFF 🧚

[digital narwhal]

Which one?

[daring crescent]

Voidstrike

[digital narwhal]

And with what Blessings?

[fading iris]

I mean, on the wh hobby, what ppl most do is read, so that will be okay

[digital narwhal]

[daring crescent]

Oh man this is so detailed

[digital narwhal]

I gotta make a good build for ya

[distant roost]

only stats that matter are Specialist/Elite/Disablers killed

[digital narwhal]

Gotta get this right for you

Now gimme them Blessings

[digital narwhal]

[lethal lagoon]

Wrong, Plasteel picked up

[digital narwhal]

You should swap TB to Surge

[distant roost]

Literally doesnt matter

[digital narwhal]

if you can

[daring crescent]

Yessir

[distant roost]

cool you pick up 400 plasteel but if you dont shoot the trapper and they proceed to fuck the team over, you get scraps

[fading iris]

the real Warhammer 40k: Darktide is the plasteel farming

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, but no plasteel and it's a hollow victory.

Also, I think it's likely that anyone that picks up 400 plasteel is carrying the match and dodging trappers cause they are in the front .

Or in the back dodging trappers

[distant roost]

id hope

but you see some... interesting players

[lethal lagoon]

Plasteel has a high correlation with top frag based on my history

[lyric burrow]

i think damage is a decent indicator as well as damage taken contextually

[lethal lagoon]

Toughness damage taken would be a cooler stat than damage taken, show who's tanking.

[distant roost]

its so situational

A zealot can take thousands of damage in a match

and it doesnt indicate anything

for instance

[lyric burrow]

ig ill say downs over damage taken

if you take damage and dont go down idc

[distant roost]

Its downs/deaths, rescue/revive and elites/specialists/disablers

[lyric burrow]

esp with matyrdom builds

[distant roost]

nothing else truly matter

cause sure you shit out damage as ogryn blasting a horde

[flat shadow]

Do you guys use your staff to murder people

[distant roost]

but ok cool you killed a horde, easiest thing to do

[flat shadow]

Not the magic blast

[potent echo]

Rescue revive is usually just the first guy to reach the scene of crime

[flat shadow]

but the actual poke and swipe

[slim pond]

sorry to interrupt but any thoughts? Had an idea after getting a staff
https://darktide.gameslantern.com/builds/9a9f5c6d-cc4d-405c-9f2d-cd2b2fffe210/brainburstsoulblaze-spam

[lethal lagoon]

The giant tree in Hab Dreyko would like to have a word with you.

[eternal pike]

Was there ever any news about the surge fix? I assume we get a hotfix soonish

[lyric burrow]

tbf killing a horde is also important assuming you need to while other people hold off whatever else

[potent echo]

I don't hate myself enough to try

[lyric burrow]

if that horde surrounds the team it can get messy

not that its hard but is important

[lethal lagoon]

blazing spirit is poopy on void

[distant roost]

important but easy yes

[flat shadow]

They buffed it in patch 13 it attacks faster and also throws people to the ground

and decapitates enemies for some reason

[mortal breach]

Me punching instead of using my dagger

[potent echo]

So does lmb on most staves

[digital narwhal]

@daring crescent This build has Seer's Presence and Psykinetic's Aura for Ability CDR, both for you and the team, along with Creeping Flames on Venting Shriek and Perilous Combustion which lets you spam Soulblaze everywhere.
You can also use Kinetic Resonance to increase the speed of your Brain Burst, which stacks with Empowered Psionics' own charge time reduction.
You gain 7.5% Toughness from Warp Kills (Soulblaze counts) and 5% Toughness for every 10% Peril Quelled, for the sake of your Toughness economy. This is on top of having higher Toughness DR at higher Peril.

It's just generally a strong all around build; good group support, good ability spam, good damage, good range, good AOE, etc.

[tribal spade]

is this one worth upgrading over my old one ?

[mortal breach]

Yeah but

My bubble

[flat shadow]

I like stabbing the rager while he's staggered instead of while he's ripping me to shreds

[digital narwhal]

Perilous + Creeping Flames stronk though

[lyric burrow]

i will say most of the time i get the highest damage i also get a lot of the elite and special kills if not the most

[distant roost]

its just

Damage in any game

[flat shadow]

I wish there was a better reason to use the staff special melee though

[distant roost]

isnt everything

[flat shadow]

I think melee deploys too fast to make it useful

[lethal lagoon]

Damage isn't everything, but it correlates with everything.

Sure, you'll have rare instances where the clear number 1 is ass, but it's gonna be super rare.

[lyric burrow]

like if someone has low damage then they probably also arent killing a ton of elites

there are times where it makes sense like smite psyker

or maybe somebody did all the objectives

[slim pond]

which staff then, if i do want blazing spirit

[lethal lagoon]

Trauma

[digital narwhal]

^

[lethal lagoon]

^^

[potent echo]

Damage is tide game definitely is most things

Since its mainly a DPS puzzle

[crude cape]

uncanny and reposte still meta on dueling sword?

[lethal lagoon]

Virtually every wipe you've ever had could have been solved with more DPS. It could have also been solved with other things, maybe, but more DPS would have worked. Yeppers.

[potent echo]

Riposte/shred/precog yea

[crude cape]

wonder if precog is generally better

uncanny precog feels so good on knife, but knife + zealot has higher base crit

[flat shadow]

How do you guys tell how much damage someone has

[potent echo]

Scoreboard mod

[digital narwhal]

Scoreboard mod

[flat shadow]

it's weird to think of this game as a competition

[potent echo]

It's not

A competition I mean

[bright ether]

^

[flat shadow]

I think it's easier to tell how someone is doing I think by just watching them

There's a few times where you can see someone plainly doing the wrong thing

[digital narwhal]

It's just nice to see if you're performing well compared to everyone else

[bright ether]

it's very easy to tell how someone is doing by watching them, yes.

[lyric burrow]

yeah

[digital narwhal]

You can use it to self evaluate

[bright ether]

^@Grond

[lyric burrow]

just lets me keep track of how im doing

[barren arch]

well, I just made my first bug report, and I wonder if I'm the first one to discover it lol

[lyric burrow]

how well does my build do

etc

[potent echo]

It's for the more nuanced situations where it isn't blindly obvious

[digital narwhal]

What's the bug?

[ornate hamlet]

An ant

[digital narwhal]

That hitstun exists?

[ornate hamlet]

I like ants

[digital narwhal]

(Bad mechanic pls delete)

[ornate hamlet]

They cute

[daring crescent]

Tiny bit proud that this is kinda similiar to what I was just trying to make myself. Didn't know soul blaze counted for warp kills though!

[barren arch]

Psyker staff bashes, the second attack, if you spam the attack button, gets 'eaten' by the 1st attack

[flat shadow]

Sometimes underperforming isn't a bad thing

[ornate hamlet]

And I take it you didn't do it with ping?

[lethal lagoon]

The original dicussion was about toxic players also being bad at the game.

[ornate hamlet]

Ping can eat some attacks, or at least their animations

[lethal lagoon]

Not about "my l33t damage makes me better than you"

[digital narwhal]

Never said it was
But self evaluation is nice

[barren arch]

it was in Physikanium, so

[ornate hamlet]

[barren arch]

prolly not

[ornate hamlet]

Maybe Sefoni was simulating 200 ping

She's funny like that

[barren arch]

if I charge up the second attack

it goes through fine and hits

but if I just mash the attack button, it does nothing

[flat shadow]

Oh yes I had an ogryn call me shit for not auto deleting every sniper as veteran but I joined mid game and already killed multiple snipers

[ornate hamlet]

Sounds wacky

[flat shadow]

If he couldn't dodge a sniper I don't think it's my fault

[barren arch]

tbh it is a nothingburger of a bug - very few people use the bash to begin with

[digital narwhal]

:(

[barren arch]

buuut hey

[digital narwhal]

That's a bad pal

[flat shadow]

People get mad

[ornate hamlet]

It's something

[flat shadow]

They also aren't always good

[lethal lagoon]

I find that story hard to believe, Ogryns can't be toxic.

Literally impossible.

[potent echo]

Some ogryns like to hide behind fake positivity

[lethal lagoon]

My experience is that I've never seen someone doing well on the scoreboard be toxic.

[potent echo]

Calling people shouty Bois or sparkheads like saying bro irl

[flat shadow]

I think the worst people are people who are good at the game and are toxic

[daring crescent]

BTW is wildfire not worth it in general or just more useful perks in this build?

[lethal lagoon]

Statistically, they are pretty rare

[flat shadow]

They just seem like losers who spend all their time playing the game

[digital narwhal]

I just call everyone pal

[digital narwhal]

Oh it is worth it
You could easily sacrifice something for Wildfire

[bright ether]

i've honestly never ran into a toxic person; just speedrunners

[flat shadow]

How does the scoreboard calculate damage anyway

[potent echo]

Most people just want to play darktide

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't, the game already stat collects.

The mod shows it

I think

[potent echo]

Yea

[bright ether]

that is correct

[barren arch]

clearly you've never encountered Queen-of-Racism, and I congratulate you on that

[lyric burrow]

Ive run into a few but 800 hours in id expect to at some point

[bright ether]

not on this game, no haha

or if you mean character name then yes to that too; have not lol

[barren arch]

I have, very toxic player, very notorious too from what I hear

[lethal lagoon]

My last toxic player was a guy who yelled on his mic about how we were all shit after a wipe.

[potent echo]

There are alot of racist names for sure

[flat shadow]

if the ogryn is killing 5 trash dudes a swing and is facing off 600 of them while the psyker brain bursts a special does it count the overkill damage

[lethal lagoon]

Checked the scoreboard...

Not surprised.

[barren arch]

I believe they've had their account banned/reset so many times but they always come back

like William Afton

[frail sand]

holy shit mystery acquisition actually gave some insane rolls

[bright ether]

that sounds kinda cringe

[lyric burrow]

Like after you wiped or as part of the insult

[barren arch]

there is a stat that counts overkill damage, if that's what you're asking

[flat shadow]

Like if I brain burst a gunner who has 1000 health for 2k damage

[lethal lagoon]

After a team wipe lmao.

[barren arch]

it's a very configurable mod, you can choose what stats are displayed

[flat shadow]

Does my damage say I did 2k damage or 1k

[bright ether]

pretty sure that would count the overkill damage yes @flat shadow

[barren arch]

what in the fuck, that might be the most stats I've seen on ANYTHING

[potent echo]

Yea it splits actual damage from overkill damage

[lethal lagoon]

overkill is a seperate category on the mod

[bright ether]

it would be 1k actual 1k overkill

[flat shadow]

I see

[digital narwhal]

YO

[barren arch]

it'll say you did 1k damage as damage to the Gunner, and then take that 1k extra damage as 'overkill damage'

[daring crescent]

Maybe puppet master? That would affect my utility to team members I suppose

[frail sand]

i upgraded it, it rolled warp flurry too

[flat shadow]

Damage numbers in games are always tricky

[frail sand]

no way i was just gambling away milk bucks

[digital narwhal]

You'll still be useful without Puppet Master

[flat shadow]

have you guys ever played mercy in overwatch and seen your damage boosts stats for example

[potent echo]

Puppet master isnt worth it unless you are going for quell speed

It's just quell speed tax

[barren arch]

AYYOOOO

[digital narwhal]

I like Puppet Master for Psykinetic's Aura

[bright ether]

i got a pretty good roll surge staff that's obsolete for now 😦

almost all 80's

[barren arch]

played a bit of Overwatch, not as Mercy though

[potent echo]

It's fine I kill all the specials anyway

[flat shadow]

There is no way that's only 377

[daring crescent]

Ok gotcha. I'll test out that build then maybe try dropping puppet master and picking up wildfire

[flat shadow]

Why's that

[potent echo]

Overwatch is not a DPS puzzle though

[fresh reef]

For me puppet Master just a toughness node tax

[barren arch]

hold on what's Puppet Master

[bright ether]

the random limb targetting makes my staff stinky mode

[fresh reef]

+5 meters to coherency radius

[flat shadow]

I just mean the damage boost stats are a little weird to understand

After 2 rounds I'll check damage boost stats and be like huh? I only boosted 400 damage?

[bright ether]

i used to CC and crowd clear but now i can only CC; which is still nice yeah, but i want to go back to racking kills as well

[barren arch]

ahhh

[flat shadow]

Is that the amount of extra damage inflicted or wht

[potent echo]

I assume so

You gave a 10% buff and that guy did 4000 damage or smth

[lyric burrow]

The scoreboard is good about making numbers easy to understand

[orchid shadow]

I'd still count that as toxic in some situations. I had a Hi-5 shock troop where two vets ran two sections ahead trying to bypass everything leaving me and an Ogryn to fend for ourselves. When they were called out on it, they just said, "Whatever"

[lethal lagoon]

If you are on PC, you should just give scoreboard mod a whirl.

[digital narwhal]

NumericUI, too

NumericUI is like

Mandatory for all modders

[potent echo]

You can actually see the ammo your team has

[barren arch]

honestly now that I've dipped my toes into modding this game with the custom weapons

I'm not gonna stop lmao

[lyric burrow]

Numeric is godlike

[lethal lagoon]

Turning Ogryn cleaver into an actual sword

[lyric burrow]

Its the one id miss the most

[barren arch]

oh I turned my Vet's psword into Mjolnir

[lethal lagoon]

That might actually go pretty well with the mk4 moveset

[lethal lagoon]

Ok, time to play vet

[potent echo]

I wonder what is 's stance on extended weapon customization

[barren arch]

think they've said it already

[lethal lagoon]

It's not on nexus, so probably not good lmao

They did?

[potent echo]

It basically removes the whole need for weapon skins

[barren arch]

basically - so long as it doesn't lead to them losing sales, they're indifferent

[potent echo]

They are though

[frail sand]

hmm...

[barren arch]

at least I am like 87% sure that is their stance

[lethal lagoon]

Most sales are from actual whole skins though, no?

[potent echo]

Like you could buy the fancy skull staff

[lethal lagoon]

I never bought any weapon skins

[potent echo]

Or just mod it

It's going into really territory

[frail sand]

like i feel like only character skins matter

[lethal lagoon]

^

Let's be real, all their weapon skins are super mid anyways

[potent echo]

Yea but some character skins come with weapon skins

Like the latest drop

[flat shadow]

I think the customization stuff mod is whatever

People keep making ugly guns

[potent echo]

Weapon skins are v scummy I agree

[flat shadow]

but why are these rejects getting shiny guns with weird scopes

[potent echo]

Because you only see it when you use it

[bright ether]

this is what i rolled two days before the update

[potent echo]

And if that weapon gets nerfed lmao

[flat shadow]

What is this thing

[potent echo]

What even is this

[bright ether]

MY BABY

[barren arch]

force spear

[potent echo]

A surge?

[bright ether]

Yes; surge staff

[potent echo]

Madmen don't even put the original name or Mk in the title

[frail sand]

[flat shadow]

see I would not want to use this because the poke and slash doesn't do much damage

[frail sand]

okay force brick when

[potent echo]

Right now

[bright ether]

this was the first run

[fresh reef]

Clarification needed for Rending Shockwave: is the 2/4/6/8 stacks a cap or is the amount applied at once?

[potent echo]

I think it's at once

Max should be 16

Using the debuff mod

V helpful

[barren arch]

only a shovelful

[bright ether]

it feels more accurate for the surge staff; shovelin' turds in the backline as the rest of the team does the hard work

or picking up after the ogryn rather

[lethal lagoon]

Cause of their low int, Ogryn poop much like horses, on the run.

Su(rge)per Scooper.

[potent echo]

Imagine doing your laundry with an ogryn

[bright ether]

it's always during their bull rush

makes it harder for shouty to keep up

[lapis token]

bold to assume ogryn do laundry

[fading iris]

I just ask Fat Shark for one thing.

[potent echo]

Lmao

[fading iris]

Gonna farm them fast

[hard solstice]

is surge staff bugged, and if so, how is it bugged? Been hearing it is

[lethal lagoon]

I need a mod for a Ogryn charge fart cloud, now.

[bright ether]

it is targetting random limbs instead of chest now so not as much damage

[bright ether]

w/ accompanying brap fx?

[lethal lagoon]

Of course.

[bright ether]

culture

[flat shadow]

That's kind of funny

Actually that might explain why I saw a dudes arm explode when I shocked him with it lol

[lethal lagoon]

I think funny was the goal

nuking the damage was not

[bright ether]

yeah that's probably exactly why lol

[foggy breach]

lesfuckingo

[long wharf]

it'd be nice if the surge staff prioritized weakspots

[foggy breach]

basically a perfect purg staff

[flat shadow]

I honestly would not have noticed it affects the damage

[potent echo]

Gaming

[flat shadow]

It seems to do really high damage either way

[long wharf]

I'd still put crit chance on there

[fading iris]

need 6 more points

[flat shadow]

The brainburst is always a critical right

[fading iris]

pretty cool tho

[potent echo]

Acktshually I would take maniac 🤓

[long wharf]

no, it's always a weakspot

[foggy breach]

shut, we ain't going that hard onto the grind

[tough onyx]

do most of you guys that use purgatus also use brainburst?

[flat shadow]

right weakspot

[long wharf]

except on the Beast of Nurgle, I think

[flat shadow]

It always explodes the head

[fading iris]

not yet

[flat shadow]

No it is

[tough onyx]

i feel like with purgatus maulers and stuff are hard unless you're bb

[potent echo]

Definitely not

You can probably kill mauler faster with a purg than bb

[flat shadow]

I was asking because on beast of nurgle you can see lightning strike the bulb on the back

[lethal lagoon]

Yeah, I call that the "Can't let go of the past build". It's not bad.

[potent echo]

If it's >1mauler purg wins easily

[tough onyx]

its hard to not use voidstrike tho

[flat shadow]

I miss the old feat where if you brain burst something it takes 15% more damage

[tough onyx]

it just perma ccs all ogryn enemies

[potent echo]

The goal post just shifted to a basketball hoop

[flat shadow]

I used to hang back and brain burst a monstrosity while my teammates beat it to death

[strong gulch]

I used smite and revolver before, but I didn't give it fair shake. This was a regular T5 and it was nice.
smite + creeping flames + revolver. Still need to check BPs because mine were geared towards the previous patch.

[spice veldt]

i run the mk4 duelling sword with the purg

if it's just one or two maulers, I'll shank them

any more and I'll just spray purg

[strong gulch]

sounds like a cat marking it's turf

[spice veldt]

meeeeOOOOOOOOOOW

[strong gulch]

[bright ether]

@sturdy dagger was in here earlier posting screens of purg staff downing crushers and maulers within 2 full charges

[long wharf]

speaking of which, I'm now fully on Team Trauma for running hi damnations/aurics

[bright ether]

packs btw not just single so that may be the difference

i know purg staff numbers scale w/ more targets affected by SB

[spice veldt]

hell yeah

[tough onyx]

Well damn...I just rolled a really nice purg staff and was thinking of trying it out, i just didn't know how it'd fair against carapace stuff

[foggy breach]

the uncanny strike dueling sword in question:

[bright ether]

i'd say if you have spawner mod go into grinder and check it out

[potent echo]

Time to pull out the Gareth video

[long wharf]

I still hate the aiming with a passion

[spice veldt]

purg doesn't do very well against carapace, though you can stack soulblaze and pull out an uncanny strike melee

I'm not sure how worth it that is in terms of time compared to your other options

but that is something you can do

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[tough onyx]

I have a pretty insane mk4 dueling sword too i just am not familiar with uncanny strike

[spice veldt]

blessings of your currently held weapon also apply to DoTs that you started

so the rending% from uncanny will apply to soulblaze

[potent echo]

I don't really aim and I'm still having fun

[tough onyx]

oh thats gross

[bright ether]

nice ty

yeah so that basically

[strong gulch]

Melk. y u do this

[severe folio]

new psyker shovel looks soo good

[digital narwhal]

Still a weakspot there

BB is always a weakspot

[foggy breach]

is 10-30% still not enough (i have crit passive)

actually 15-35%

psyker just has a raw 5% crit node as well

[potent echo]

Psyker has 7.5% default

So adding up you get 32.5

[dark radish]

So Surge staff is shit now

[potent echo]

Without the perk

[dark radish]

So after shitting on my Veteran. Lean fish also fuck my Psyker as well…

Time to go back to my Ogryn then

[digital narwhal]

Man, I love Psyker Crit Builds

[dark radish]

[potent echo]

Ogryn had a stealth buff

Achyls stubber

[digital narwhal]

So that's where the Ogryn's 2.5 went

Ogryn got nerfed from 5% to 2.5%

[dark radish]

Stealth Ogryn!?

[potent echo]

Stolen

[dark radish]

[digital narwhal]

That with the Stubber -2% Crit penalty gives Stubber Ogryns a 0.5% chance to crit without Talents or Perks

Awesome

Thanks FartShart

[potent echo]

Charmed kekload

[severe folio]

which shovel better

[digital narwhal]

Right one

[severe folio]

ok

[digital narwhal]

https://youtu.be/wrxbLFhRyNk

Nice to see the Vets get more comfortable around the Savant Psyker

[severe folio]

that vet likes discipline

i think its

professional ?

[digital narwhal]

Yep

The Professional is quite tolerant of the Savant tbh

and now they're having casual conversation without any hint of negativity

[severe folio]

yeah because savant is enforcer background

[digital narwhal]

:)

[lyric burrow]

right

[digital narwhal]

There was always a hint of uncomfortability in some of their voicelines beforehand though

but the Professional seems quite relaxed around the Savant with newer voicelines

It's cool to see

[foggy breach]

whaddyall think?

[fresh reef]

join lobby
die instantly because of a burster exploding literally inside me
epic

[lyric burrow]

left one, swap the 2 perks

wait thats mk 5

[foggy breach]

yes

i like my mk v

[lyric burrow]

im actually not sure whats bis on mk5 these days

[potent echo]

I like how they only make you invisible but not invulnerable

[lyric burrow]

probs rampage/shred or something

dont quote me on that

[fresh reef]

I like how I would've surivied if I didn't inherit a wound from the bot lmfao

[foggy breach]

unrelated but i just found this

[lyric burrow]

dude i hate walking in 90% dead cause i took over a bot

[potent echo]

Just stick around for the 100 plasteel consolation

[fresh reef]

basically the same as Mk4

[lyric burrow]

even uncanny with its lower heavy damage

guess rending is still good baseline

[fresh reef]

Uncanny/Preference, Unyielding/(Flak/Maniac/Crit)

[foggy breach]

oh damn this mk 4 DS is actually quite good

[foggy breach]

I might throw this into the hadroninator

[plush basalt]

is there a good purgatus assail build?

[mental grail]

Should have prayed to the omnissiah to place your character safely

seems like a personal l

[runic python]

Did the new patch break any mods?

[lyric burrow]

not that i am aware of

[mental grail]

why run purg instead of void?

[lyric burrow]

horde clear

[flat shadow]

I think if you play with bots the ideal thing is to just babysit them because they headshot with their guns for some reason

They dodge and block and push okay but they are no good at hordes

and then they have aimbot

Literally you can see them lock on to dudes through walls

It's weird

[mental grail]

The new AI director spawns too many gunners and snipers for me to run purg

[flat shadow]

I've never used the purgatus

[tulip trench]

what colour is purge staff flame normally? orange or blue?

[flat shadow]

But I see that there is a puff ability

[lyric burrow]

blue

[mental grail]

carnival was legitimately hell for me running purgatus

[tulip trench]

ty

ok the blue was definitely annoying, changing it to orange now

[mental grail]

Psykers use soulfire or something like that

[potent echo]

Yesterday someone was saying purg made carnival easy

[mental grail]

it's always white/blue

[lyric burrow]

i find you need to run assail/BB with it

or you just eat shit to range

[potent echo]

I agree that once you know the map it's pretty nice to flank gunners

[tulip trench]

custom flames, now its orange for me 🙂 way easier to see a mauler sprinting at me through it

[potent echo]

That's what creeping flames is for

[mental grail]

It's dogwater unless you spam cooldown to interrupt the animation

[potent echo]

Purg lmb is amazing

What cooldown

[flat shadow]

Does it stagger?

[hard solstice]

Which melee weapons on psyker can get the Uncanny Strike blessing? Is it only the combat knife?

[mental grail]

terrible opinion, orange fire is boring as fuck and bland, ghostly white spirit spiritflame is way more badass

[flat shadow]

Force weapons

[ornate hamlet]

dueling sword can get uncanny as well

[mental grail]

quell

[tulip trench]

cant visiually see through the blue :/

[mental grail]

you can spam quell to fire faster

[potent echo]

You just use it to stagger, don't really need to quell cancel

[mental grail]

optical issue honestly

[tulip trench]

genuinely is, eyesight going downhill 😢 😂

[mental grail]

Some people use it to kill, I don't, but the method is there

[foggy breach]

burny fun

[tulip trench]

running purge for hordes w/assail for open gun areas and MK4 Dueling for da big 'un chunky bois

[potent echo]

Purg also suppresses all the shooters it isn't killing directly

[mental grail]

Running assail for hordes + gunslinging and voidstrike for hordes + open areas

[long wharf]

when you need to crit as often as possible, no, 35% is not enough

[foggy breach]

40% it is ig

thats the most i can eke out i think

[stuck bridge]

what cope are we on tonight siblings

what am i gonna be running just to feel again

[potent echo]

Realistically adding 5% isn't super important when below 50%

Even if you add all the crit you still wouldn't get 100% empathic evasion uptime

And you will be losing out on CDR and maniac damage

[long wharf]

I disagree, 5% is 5% more than what you had before

and with purge, you want to be critting as much as possible

so you do want that 5%

[potent echo]

Yea and you crit maybe 4 times more in an encounter

Is that really a huge deal

I rather have more maniac damage and more CDR to creeping flames more

[fresh reef]

would you guys says I carried here? honestly not sure

[digital narwhal]

[potent echo]

From one pitfall into another rabbit hole

[long wharf]

Assail definitely doesn't feel particularly good right now

[potent echo]

What loadout?

[plush basalt]

wtf is up with the influx of just terrible players on damnation

[strong gulch]

new patch new map

[flat shadow]

Do you guys also do the thing with the Obscurus where when you activate the special you purposely miss the first two swings so you hit them with that force stab

[mental grail]

using obscurus

absolutely fucking not

[flat shadow]

I love obby

[strong gulch]

IDK. You got most of things for sure. Was a 2 person carry at the very least. You probably enabled the other person to get boss and crafting material.

[mental grail]

Illisi and Deimos are better

[weary rain]

Is this worth getting?

[twilit carbon]

is disrupt destiny more reliable to activate now?

[mental grail]

Obscurus sits in the middle ground being equally worse than both

[twilit carbon]

or is it still too unpredictable to utilize?

[strong gulch]

It's just as relaible. It's supposed to actually glow on marked targets now.

[mental grail]

I think, I haven't tested it extensively though

[twilit carbon]

duly noted. thank you for the info

[flat shadow]

I like slice slice stab

[fresh reef]

higher quality premium cosmetic btw

[mental grail]

I like actually killing my targets

[flat shadow]

wym

It kills people fine

[mental grail]

Deimos is the best at single targets, and Illisi is better at hordes

[flat shadow]

it is really really hard not to land at least one headshot

[strong gulch]

True but use what you like.

[mental grail]

Obscurus is just worse at both

[flat shadow]

well it is supposed to be a middle ground

[burnt mulch]

i've been having fun with deimos/revolver/assail >.>

[mental grail]

It's the bottom of a valley, and illisi and deimos are the sides

[flat shadow]

But they never really fixed the illisi special just being insane

so the Obscurus is indeed not as great

[mental grail]

And deimos is better for head chopping and killing spec/elites

cause of its nasty damage

[flat shadow]

Indeed you can poke the mutie twice with the demos

[fresh reef]

smite being able to hit Weakspots is just ridiculously nice to have

[flat shadow]

usually I just use the weapon special on a mutie and follow it up with 2 lights and it dies

[tribal spade]

which one to go for ?

[flat shadow]

I couldn't live without moving and dodging far

i would go for the first one

But the second one goes through carapace better

It's up to you I guess

[fresh reef]

higher mobility. you can make up for the minor penetration loss with Uncanny

[tribal spade]

aitait, ye that is what i was thinking aswell

[flat shadow]

Not even uncanny it still just does a ton of damage

Or brain explode them

Whatever

[tribal spade]

will try to see what i get out of it

[mental grail]

Something about 20-odd guys moaning in a big group has me acting kinda heretical

[tribal spade]

kinda sad

[flat shadow]

why is it sad

[fresh reef]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1103351960490487849/1114406519514071131/image0.gif

[tribal spade]

perk and blessing xd

[flat shadow]

55 finesse damage is big armor/headshot penetration

[fresh reef]

Precog is very, very good

[tribal spade]

hmmm

[flat shadow]

Try this

Dodge a crusher

stab him right after

you just went from doing 50 damage to 100 something

I assume it's on a duelling sword

[tribal spade]

yes

[flat shadow]

Also duelling sword has awful stamina

so idk

[flat shadow]

I like having stamina for tougher times

I'm praying for your final roll

thoughts and prayers

[tribal spade]

need more plasteels for that xd

[sinful peak]

is reload speed important on revolver

[tribal spade]

until now i have been using this and it has worked nice so far

[harsh urchin]

It's not as important as the dmg stats but still important

[sinful peak]

can this work

[flat shadow]

why would it not

Looks awesome

You'll be two shotting fatties

how do non vets use the revolver

[reef crow]

excuse me but i'm seeking some guidance

[flat shadow]

I always play revolver on vet with deadshot and executioner

[reef crow]

i looking a brain burts build for the psyker since the talent tree reset after the new rework and didn't touch my psyker for a longtime i look around here if anyone could help giving a good build in the skill tree for brain burts

if you can help it will be great

[ornate hamlet]

we click heads

[flat shadow]

huge playstyle

[ornate hamlet]

real and true

[flat shadow]

I have to think on that rahotekh

[ornate hamlet]

https://tenor.com/view/real-and-true-cat-walking-gray-cat-gif-14865986020845776272

[cloud heron]

Using anything besides a staff and force sword is the lamest way to play psyker

[ornate hamlet]

boomer

[flat shadow]

Not true

The duelling sword is literally right there

[atomic zephyr]

should i change carapace for something else?

maniac? unyielding?

[ornate hamlet]

Yes

[cloud heron]

duelling sword ain't magic

[ornate hamlet]

Say that again when you one-shot a mauler

[robust grove]

nah it literally is a magic kill stick

[flat shadow]

It ain't magic but your guy looks awesome when you hold it

Have you seen the deploy animation

He whips it out and swings it around

and he fights with an arm behind his back

mister skill

[cloud heron]

non-magically

the worst way to do something

[ornate hamlet]

the only thing I'm deploying is my nuts across Morrow's holographic map table

he will perish to ligma

[robust grove]

ya poke things with it and they fall down dead

how is that not magic?

[flat shadow]

enough uh dat 'eretic filth he'll say

[ornate hamlet]

he calls people filthy like he actually takes showers

[cloud heron]

the demons don't come and start telling you how cool you are when you do it

[robust grove]

thats a fair point

[flat shadow]

he also says whinge whinge whinge. I think that's pretty cool

[frail sand]

rip run with 2 vets both not using ammo aura

rip my gunker

[robust sierra]

is trauma with soulblaze good? or should I run flurry/nexus?

[frail sand]

blazing goat

[cloud heron]

yes

[frail sand]

blazing + nexus

[robust sierra]

gotcha

thanks

[robust sierra]

got a shitty blessing on this one but the stats are higher

[frail sand]

i dont understand why ppl still scatter around in AM

[robust sierra]

which should I upgrade to gold?

[frail sand]

the blazing one

this one kinda bricked

[robust sierra]

ok

[cloud heron]

the blazing one is so much better

[robust sierra]

we got nexus 💪 💪

not 4 but eh i don't care for minmaxing anyways

[frail sand]

flak + crit chance and you're golden

[robust sierra]

I also have this one

[frail sand]

bad

blast radius sad

[robust sierra]

gotcha

[robust sierra]

is crit chance all it's cut out to be?

[cloud heron]

the blast radius is deceptively large for trauma, it's just things far away from the impact don't really get effected much

but they still get soulblaze applied to them

[frail sand]

you want max crit chance to proc soulblaze

[robust sierra]

what about void? I know flurry, nexus, and surge are good on it

this is my current unrefined one

I also have these 379s

[hasty pier]

So this USED to show your hair with it

Obese Fish gimme my refund

[strong gulch]

If you want to do a BB / BR heavy build you can take brain rupture, kinetic resonance, bolstered shield (for the x2 ability use), and empowered psionics.

There's also a +5 range damage node that affects BR damage.

[placid pike]

anyone got psyker fashion for Arren Mastorus? Curious how it looks besides the sample on the shop

[strong gulch]

I used to not show any hair. Then it was fixed then broken again. 🙃

[hasty pier]

It looks terrible with no hair

I bought it when it had hair

[strong gulch]

I bought it when it didn't have hair. I get what I for now I guess.

Hopefully it gets fixed.

[stable silo]

is it better to run EP with smite or warp charges?

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite with flaming shriek is super nice. But if you aren't running shriek, warp charges for longer smite might be better.

[stable silo]

i was running the bubble on this build seems more supporty

[lethal lagoon]

Then personally I'd do warp instead.

[tulip trench]

Worth investing in?
.

[lethal lagoon]

Why'd you roll the perk already?

[heady garnet]

blessings on trauma? I know it's brittleness

warp flurry maybe?

[bright ether]

^@Atlas

That kinda makes it already half bricked on the perkies

[lethal lagoon]

Carpace Vld does nothing on psyker

sustained fire is ass

[strong gulch]

I am working a build right now that has smite as my only source of peril.

Warp siphon for the cool down reduction on creeping flames and not using inner tranquility.

[lethal lagoon]

Pretty bricked, yeah

Smite revolver is solid

They balance each other pretty well

[reef crow]

thanks

[stable silo]

this is the build im running any tips for da smite ?

[lethal lagoon]

Smite doesn't need the +1 jump

it's a meme

So there's an extra point.

Also, why crit aura, what weapons are you running?

[stable silo]

smite doesnt crit?

[lethal lagoon]

no

[stable silo]

oh

well then

that changes everything

[strong gulch]

Never ran smite for damage, only utility, so idk.

So little toughness regen. I could never.

[lethal lagoon]

^

[bright ether]

surge memories intensify

[untold widget]

Honestly, you should be able to swap aura's as long as the links still work with the new selection

without having to drop the build and redo it

how is that not a thing

[visual adder]

Potato 🥔

[lethal lagoon]

Coding that would be a nightmare

And fatshark already has fucked code

[strong gulch]

Also, you can dodge slide while quelling or channeling. So montion in mind is not needed.

Of course use it if you like it.

[bright ether]

loves me some slide quelling

[small carbon]

I was playing with some friends earlier, and I noticed that anytime our other psyker earned a warp charge I would gain one as well.

Has anyone else come across this?

[untold widget]

I don't know why coding that would be a nightmare, but then again I don't know anything about coding

[tulip trench]

even with stack distribution, not worth?

[untold widget]

but it feels like it should be straightforward enough

[lone yarrow]

been that way for a while

even before patch13 iirc, you could siphon warp charges off other psykers BB if you were also BB’ing

[stable silo]

new top half now that i know smite doesnt crit bottom is the same

[bright ether]

you could maybe squeeze something out of it but tbh it's heavily in the hands of rng now with only having one slot left to tinker with before bricking

[lethal lagoon]

What's your weapons though?

[stable silo]

i was running deimos and laspistol

but i have almost any other weapon type

[tulip trench]

havnt modded it at all i dont think

[bright ether]

you rerolled the trait hence the wrench icon

[lethal lagoon]

I would trade mind in motion for Soul stealer and perilous combustion.

And then that extra peril next to shriek into a +15 toughness anywhere.

[bright ether]

that's 1/2 allowed per weapon; so it's just depending on whether you want to chance mats at a brick or possible win

next trait and perk could be good or bad, its level is pretty high so i think your odds may be towards you but it's all chance at this point

[stable silo]

thats a good idea

[lethal lagoon]

perilous combustion can have a chain reaction if you smite a really dense group and kill a low health elite or two

[dark radish]

Can someone explain to me what’s currently wrong with Surge staff? The damage seem to fall off the cliff atm

[bright ether]

it is targetting random limbs now instead of chest only

[stable silo]

think i should get rid of abttle meditation?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge is bugged because they tried to add new gibbing animations to it

Opps wrong person

Smite is constant DPS though, you are hitting enemies constantly.

[bright ether]

whether you were running the bugged EP build or the Warp Chargers; damage falloff is now noticeable on higher levels

[lethal lagoon]

perilous combustion is exponential, so if you kill 2-4 elites in a huge elite group, they'll fall like dominos and trigger more combustions.

It works well with flaming shriek though.

[digital narwhal]

Can someone give me a before and after pick of the Psyker head gear where the hair was changed?

[lethal lagoon]

Compared to bubble

[strong gulch]

The more specials and elites there are clustered together, the better perilous combustion is.

[tulip trench]

oops ya i put carapace on it before i realized the las is crap against carapace in the first place

This worth anything? or brick cause MK5?

.
also are regular swords at all good on psyker?
.

[lethal lagoon]

mk4 is much better yes.

Catachan 4 is aight.

[tulip trench]

what should the dump stat on that be?

[lethal lagoon]

I personally wouldn't run catachan 4 on psyker unless you are already bored of the other weapons

I don't think there's really a dump stat, you wanna go around base 370 with less mobility.

[burnt mulch]

psyker power is stored in the hair. it's too powerful

[tulip trench]

ok just caught my eye cause of the stat distribution

[idle bay]

Speaking of different weapons out of boredome. I started rotating my selection of melee weapons just to makes action feel slightly more fresh. Even gone back for BM Antax V for a while. I really like how pretty much everything works now

[frank moat]

#psyker-class message

[tight bay]

reroll suggestions? I feel like all the perks and blessings are good, just not max roll

[frail sand]

ranged dmg to flak, nexus to t4

[bitter sky]

is surge staff weaker than normal right now? feels really weird

[tight bay]

yeah its bugged

[bitter sky]

[tight bay]

can hit limbs instead of torso

[shadow oar]

what blessings on the illisi?

[hasty pier]

Warp is stored in the hair doesn't make sense with how many bald librarians there are

[bright ether]

so trauma is p neat

[hasty pier]

blaze trauma is fuckin fun

[ashen schooner]

that's why imperium psykers are so much weaker than other races

[placid pike]

Is Surge Force Staff still decent? Since biolightning/smite exists?

[bright ether]

trickyish butg neat

surge has been chucked

[burnt mulch]

true 😔

[bright ether]

trauma is new best friend now

[shadow oar]

is illisi bis blessings slaughterer and?

[idle bay]

You don't want to check under Librarians armor. Hairs are not exclusive to the head.

[bright ether]

thats my new project perk

[hasty pier]

I lucked out and basically had this at 30

[bright ether]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-so-hot-summer-sweating-sweating-hard-gif-16045826

[ashen schooner]

deflector/uncanny/Unstable Power typically

[idle bay]

Slaughterer and anything else you like. Uncanny or niche Deflector whatever really 🙂

[hasty pier]

trying to build a blaze sword now lol

[shadow oar]

so just kinda whatever u prefer

[gentle hinge]

oh boy

[digital narwhal]

Cheers

[visual adder]

Same some bitches for the rest of us damn

[bright ether]

dumdum

lol

[gentle hinge]

just for you i will

[severe folio]

i didnt know plasma gun blew people up like peril now

thats new haha

to me

[visual adder]

Thanks

[idle bay]

I found my lost Brother!

[gentle hinge]

ayy lets go!

funny boss melter

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/finger-guns-gif-25457146

[sinful temple]

Is it just me or does Smite feel a lot weaker than it did before the patch the other day?

[lethal lagoon]

Nah, smite is bussin.

[fading iris]

you should read the patch notes

[lethal lagoon]

Surge, is....

[idle bay]

Almost Comissar Cain's grade laspistol. Not enough to one-BLAM! warboss but enough to melt him in 1-2 clips 🙂

[gentle hinge]

yeah good enough for me

[lethal lagoon]

I hope you boys are protecting your fingies and wrists with auto-fire 😡

[bitter escarp]

been seeing a lot of ratling snipers

[lethal lagoon]

Laspistol more like Lasgetcarpoltunnel

[idle bay]

I'm old school - no macros, i just click fast AF. Wrists in prisitine condition 🙂

[bitter escarp]

vets perma crouched afraid to lose their stacks

[lethal lagoon]

For now

[idle bay]

I'm grumpy old man 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

I believe in your longevity.

[idle bay]

All damage gone into the spine . But wrists are good 🙂

[bitter escarp]

fingers get clapped more than wrists with excessive clicking

[lethal lagoon]

There is a mod for auto-fire btw, instead of a macro

It's so relaxing

[idle bay]

I LOVE clicking , so not my cup of tea 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

laspistol just doesn't feel right anymore without auto fire

I love clicking melee

Clicking ranged, yuck

[gentle hinge]

and im a guitarist lmao

[lethal lagoon]

Look at all these cool guys in chat 😦

I dunno how you use laspistol manual long-term, but it's impressive.

[gentle hinge]

it's called suffering for the greater cause

[lethal lagoon]

Spamming heavies on club Ogryn is enough suffering for me.

I always press too hard lmao

Heavy mouse attack, literally

[idle bay]

I just delegate clicking to muscle memory and completely free my mind about it.

[gentle hinge]

i mean you get extra damage when you click hard on ogryn

[lethal lagoon]

It feels that way

[stable silo]

so testing warp charge smite dome build, it wasnt so great

[bitter escarp]

try using a fingertip grip instead of a claw or palm grip?

[idle bay]

Also it's infuriating how broken clicking through to make push atttack on Force Swords.

[stable silo]

iwas wiping warp charges to fast for to be effective

[lethal lagoon]

You can look at that from another direction.

[stable silo]

still did great at the smite but EP would prob be stronker i guess

[lethal lagoon]

You were using warp charges CDR fully.

[stable silo]

i suppose but it was mostly the cdr on elite kill i think

[lethal lagoon]

I personally don't see the point of EP smite without flaming shriek, but everything is worth a personal test.

[stable silo]

dome saved us multiple times from enemy gunners and max ranged snipers as well as giving the simpletons a giant glowing move here dome

i love shriek i usually run assail shriek i will def try it with smite

[bitter escarp]

dome turns bad team positioning into solid team positioning

[lapis token]

dome is love, dome is life

[bitter escarp]

instead of pinging people to move into cover you bring the cover to them

[lethal lagoon]

You can also forward dome to get some slowpokes to move forward.

[stable silo]

ya haha

we would move forward on dome

during fights

[bitter escarp]

when the mountain will not come to muhammad, muhammad must go to the mountain

[lethal lagoon]

I don't think that applies.

Cause someone's moving the mountain

[bitter escarp]

the noise from all the false double pings isn't helping people take them any more seriously

[stable silo]

Barely used the laspistol and didnt have to pick up ammo once thanks mr vet

I prob shouldnt be testing builds in auric dam but its just so fun

[idle bay]

QUite a lot of Vets are dpressed and lost right now - perfect momet to grab thier ammo

[lethal lagoon]

I like the new vet tree 🤷‍♂️

[idle bay]

Before they adapt 🙂

[lethal lagoon]

I still ignore keystones like before.

[stable silo]

The ping talent is actually amusing now

I didnt think it would be

[idle bay]

My build pretty much the same on vet after last patch. Less Toughness though and that's it. No keystones though - i do not find them useful enough to makeskill point sacrifices

[raven bramble]

What guns pairs well with Scriers gaze?

[lethal lagoon]

Columbus, Revolver, Laspistol

[stable silo]

Laspistol imo

[ivory heath]

been gone a few weeks what are ppl runnin these days

[lethal lagoon]

I like that the group toughness sharing is higher up

[gentle hinge]

i love the Vraks MK VII Headhunter Autogun with scrierz

[lethal lagoon]

Makes up for some loses that it's easy to get now

[idle bay]

And Plasmagun still OP and melts everything. SO life is good. No real reason to get depressed for vet players

[lethal lagoon]

Vet is honestly still highest DPS, just takes more skill than pre patch 13.

Actually have to aim at weakspots now instead of just deleteing highlighted targets

and the shout is still stupid even with the nerf.

[bitter escarp]

honestly think shout nerf was misplaced, it's the cooldown on kill that should have been nerfed

[lethal lagoon]

🤷‍♂️ I aint complaining

But yeah

[bitter escarp]

it's justifiable to be sure

[lethal lagoon]

The CD and the stacking is just silly

But I guess encouraging vets to kill specialists isn't a bad idea

[bitter escarp]

since it's not as much of a commitment as compelling people with the power of jesus

[idle bay]

Or with iconic "Show me your war faces!"

[lethal lagoon]

It was a bit misplaced that shout was better in everyway than the book despite being just a single button press.

[bitter escarp]

less meme potential

couldn't bully bosses, but yeah

[lethal lagoon]

You can still intruppt bosses.

Plus there was a bug that let you insta kill chaos spawn

[bitter escarp]

yeah they do need some more lines for the shout activation

[glass prairie]

Wait guys the reason why the lightning staff was so powerful is because it was bugged with empowering psionics?

[lethal lagoon]

That was a bug yes.

And now there's a bug in the other direction

[glass prairie]

Darn it I was playing with my unlimited power build before and I was like man this staff feels so darn good to use

?

[lethal lagoon]

Surge randomly hits limbs for -50% damage lmao

[frail sand]

okay i like the new map but it rolls way too often in quickplay

[bitter escarp]

more than doubling the damage will definitely do that, yes

[lethal lagoon]

It's more that people are queueing for it more

[bitter escarp]

yeah quickplay draws on the maps currently being played

[lunar sparrow]

wait a minute
for Warp Battery, do you need to reach and then maintain 4 Warp Charges for 300 seconds, without it dropping below 4?

[bitter escarp]

yes, or 6 if you hate yourself

[hearty oak]

Yeah

[lunar sparrow]

that's fucking impossible

[hearty oak]

But its super easy to maintain nowadsays

[lunar sparrow]

why are all the Psyker penances awful

[bright ether]

i got it without even realizing it was a penance 😛

[lethal lagoon]

Back in the day, it was fucking impossible

[bitter escarp]

back when WCs dropped all at once

[lethal lagoon]

Nowadays, its all weak shit.