psyker-class

[wanton sandal]

smite is best blitz

:^

[plush basalt]

assail is pretty much only good for ranged clearing atm, so its decent compared to bb and smite

[smoky fractal]

if your team is coordinated

[wanton sandal]

assail still does good damage

but its more burst-usage now instead of infinite sustain

dont crutch on it

[jolly vale]

Speaking of, an incredible way to buff BB is to make subsequent uses charge faster

[robust kayak]

with how bad single target damage assasiloffers, cant help but wonder if brain burst is actually viable now

[jolly vale]

You used to just be able to just only use that

[wanton sandal]

bb is viable only with ep lol

[jolly vale]

BB is still incredibly weak. Just use a revolver

[robust kayak]

so its smite basically, im a like to kill stuff type of guy, and smite is just too low dmg

[jolly vale]

Smite is only good if you're with your team

[wanton sandal]

smite struggles to kill anything but trash

but oits super useful CC

[lethal lagoon]

EP smite plus flaming shirek, you could do nothing else the whole game and top DPS.

[robust kayak]

when i go into auric damnation and i see 3 veterans i know no one is clearing any hordes

flaming shriek?

[jolly vale]

Why that?

[lethal lagoon]

Smite till 85+, flaming shriek, keep smiting, lots of stuff dead.

Perilous combust on top, just silly

The higher the difficulty, the better it works

[robust kayak]

flaming shriek is a node? in skill tree?

[jolly vale]

I mean I enjoy fire as much as anyone else, but it's far too slow to help much at all

[orchid nest]

you know a funny thing about this new random hit thing with smite and surge is smiting stacks true aim incredibly quick. nice if you take a voidstrike with it

[clear heath]

wait does smite also hit random body parts too?

[lethal lagoon]

It doesn't do weakspot hits

[orchid nest]

yes smite has the random thing too

[lethal lagoon]

Or does it count as a hit even though it's not officially a weakspot?

[potent echo]

It does now

[clear heath]

surge does hit weakspots now

[wanton sandal]

doesnt really matter with smite

[clear heath]

randomly

[wanton sandal]

surge is ruined bc of it tho

[lethal lagoon]

Surge doesn't weakspot, it can hit weakspots.

with the bug

There's a difference

[orchid nest]

so you can smite for a split moment and it full stacks true aim then you can swap to void and get your guaranteed crit

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

It's the same for smite

[lethal lagoon]

Why are your damage numbers off you can't tell if it's actually weakspot damage

[potent echo]

It's not me

[lethal lagoon]

Anyways, as I said, I guess it counts as a weakspot hit

But it doesn't do weakspot damage

[potent echo]

Reading comprehension

[lethal lagoon]

Oh man their code must look like a butchered piece of garbage to make a mess like this

[orchid nest]

yeah no weakspot damage. but nice for stacking true aim to use on void for sure

[static needle]

I keep on dying playing damnation when im plasteel farming

how much do u get from heresy

[potent echo]

It does do weakspot damage

Sometimes you do 1k

[wanton sandal]

im sure their code is looking like a real tasty spaghetti

[lethal lagoon]

Heresy pubs are harder than auric damn pubs half the time

[potent echo]

I think Vanessa had a video

[clear heath]

yeah it's very noticeable that the weakspot hits hit harder

[orchid nest]

I was talking about smite not surge

[clear heath]

it's also funny to surge a reaper in psykanium and watch it cycle through 3 armor types

cause those things are flak cara and unyielding depending on hitzone

[snow coral]

anyone have a good strat for holding out in the amphitheatre on the new map? I've tried a few places but nothing seems ideal so far.

[orchid nest]

this whole thing came about because some guy probably just thought it would be nice flavor wise if it gibbed different body parts instead of torso all the time and didn't think of the other implications of the change

[potent echo]

#psyker-class message

[robust kayak]

a bubble and a dream

[snow coral]

yeah I run dome so that does help

so many gunners on damnation though domes don't last very long

[umbral helm]

after playing the new map for a while it's making me realize how terrible the average player's sense of direction is

lot of people going in circles looking for the way forward

[fading iris]

There is the post on the forum of ppl talking about it, and since isn't in the patch notes, the "maximum funny" in me knowing the FatShark history of bugs, hopes that maybe someone was testing something int the test version and ended up going into the live version.

[potent echo]

Do they even do version control

[orchid nest]

yeah very possible. the code is pretty intentional, but they could have just left it in on accident

[clear heath]

fatshark just wants psykers to suffer

[fading iris]

I mean, ppl delete live versions and backups with the wrong command.

could even be a part 2 thing that supposed to have more tweak and ended up on live before the time too

[potent echo]

Yea they should be asleep now, maybe a hot fix today or tomorrow

Unless they just say screw it and wait till part2

[clear heath]

might end up just making us wait till part 2

[potent echo]

They usually have one hot fix in between patches

Coping

[wanton sandal]

granted this map isnt as linear

[fading iris]

one thing is certain: Someone, somewhere at Fatshark is about to wake up with a lot of notifications from the office

Jimmy's friday is about to be lit

[orchid nest]

kind of like smite previously had the text about it being able to do a "high impact and high damage" on the left click presumably and it was acknowledged as a bug in their forums and then come patch 14 they "fixed" it by simply rewriting the text to not include it

[potent echo]

So the lmb is still as worthless

[fading iris]

an by friday I mean... fuck what day is it, let me check... wednesday

[umbral helm]

Wednesday is canceled, sorry

[potent echo]

We ran out of Wednesdays

[fading iris]

the days blur themselves when you're always home and have flexible working hours

and now I realized that I said to my dad that the next day was friday before he went to sleep

[potent echo]

Can't wait for part2 news though

It's like the real meat of the update

Hopefully

[clear heath]

how many parts are there?

[fading iris]

2

[velvet spear]

hey maybe they'l give the smite bug back

[fading iris]

or at least they said was part 1 and 2

P1 we got, P2 in December

[cloud heron]

the purge staff seems to do really well on the new map

[fading iris]

[fading iris]

Soon™

[potent echo]

I would guess people would say the opposite because long sight lines

[wanton sandal]

cant wait for ogryn to still not get any new toys

[potent echo]

Ogryns got paul

[fading iris]

I like the new map, but I'm getting it too much on quickplay and is starting to wear off

[cloud heron]

The only time I really had trouble was the finale with the gunners, but BB took care of them well enough

otherwise, huge amounts of the map have very well spaced sight lines for you

[potent echo]

Hold the entrance of the arena

Like the elevator entrance

Purg wins everything

[fading iris]

Where is the CSI photoshop program where we can enhance and remove the blur behind the part 2 to see the stuff

[unborn flicker]

Bro idk what to use, it feels like whatever staff I choose I am hitting them with a napkin from a little kids birthday party

My Voidstrike is Voidsuck

Purgatos is Lamatos

[orchid venture]

Anyone know if they got leaks about part 2 yet

[unborn flicker]

Trauma gives me trauma

[clear heath]

remember to close the gates in the finale of the new map
I've seen a ton of people that just don't do it

[potent echo]

Uhhh there's this

[fading iris]

btw 8 squares with stuff, Part 2 is hella packed because is on december

[potent echo]

Isn't it pointless

Because they just spawn from another door nearby

[fading iris]

Part 1 we find the stimms, part 2 we use them

[orchid venture]

Left 4 Dead 2 Adrenaline

[fading iris]

or an Inquistion copy

[clear heath]

idk, it feels easier to manage when they're closed

[potent echo]

If you hold the entrance of the arena it's dead easy

[cloud heron]

It's pointless because the purge staff can eat an infinitely dense mass of enemies simultaneously

[potent echo]

Also the doors reopen after awhile

Yea that's why you camp the elevator entrance

It's a perfect funnel for purg

And the other 3 teammates just kill shooters behind or clean up mutants charging in

[cloud heron]

More like, other 3 teammates get bored and start wandering out of the funnel

[potent echo]

Maybe

[orchid venture]

I can imagine that those syringes would be about the same as VT2 potions

[potent echo]

Because purg is playing darktide

The rest are playing waiting for my plasteel

[fading iris]

Plasteel my Beloved

[forest junco]

hello lads, not sure where to post this but is this a good roll?

[potent echo]

Stats are ideal

[cloud heron]

Pretty good. Swap terrifying barrage for warp flurry

not sure on which perk to swap out but you want one of them to be crit chance

[potent echo]

I would change unyielding to flak and barrage for flurry

Nah I wouldn't go crit chance

[plush basalt]

yeah unyielding to either flak or maniacs imo

[cloud heron]

crits apply double soulblaze stacks

[potent echo]

Yea nexus is enough

On maulers you can reach 15 very quickly

I have the debuff mod on

[plush basalt]

crit stats just arent enough % to justify over damage increases

[potent echo]

Flak just lets you kill maulers 25% faster

Also gunners/shotgunners/flakrager

Shotgunners are the bane of purg

So anything that kills them faster please

[misty cypress]

anyone willing to afk at spawn while i finish the 50 psykinetic wraths to avoid perils of the warp penance?

[fading iris]

Sprint Efficiency

[cloud heron]

The faster you get them to 15 the faster you can LMB spam them to keep them stunned

[potent echo]

Yea lmb spam on a group of maulers

But 5% chance realistically maybe you CRIT twice more per encounter

I don't think that makes it better than 25% flak

[wheat quartz]

siblings, have you found wildfire to be worth it on blazing trauma

I keep taking it and it feels like a placebo

[potent echo]

Read psyker atheneum for wildfire mechanics

It doesn't work properly

[wheat quartz]

I know how it works, the question is whether what it actually does is still worth it

[potent echo]

No it doesn't work

I.e. it only spreads from dead bodies and other funky ass stuff

[bitter escarp]

it's a placebo

[frail sand]

I want psyker to have a smoke staff

[analog agate]

Entrance where you enter. That bottleneck where it opens to the arena.

[bitter escarp]

I want psyker to have a staff that claps shit in an aura

also a buff staff, biomancer unga bunga psyker when

[frail sand]

what gunners? what shooters?

[cloud heron]

in an aura? like a trauma explosion centered on yourself?

[bitter escarp]

yep

[cloud heron]

I feel like psyker needs more longer ranged options

[bitter escarp]

doesn't have to be good, be happy enough if it just staggered things into the next suburb

[analog agate]

No it’s not.

[bitter escarp]

with little meaningful damage unless you yeet them into scenery

[clear heath]

if you wanna hit things around you, you can fill your peril to 100% and cast...

[bitter escarp]

not the daft way

[fading iris]

Psykers always have their warp grenade as option

[potent echo]

Beam staff pls

[snow coral]

that sounds good. just did damnation and held in front of one of the gates you can close and that worked out real well

[severe folio]

i want a staff that punch shit into the eye of terror

[potent echo]

Yea one of the corridors from the center square should be good

[severe folio]

with big muscular warp energy constructed arms

[desert mirage]

is this ok as a base roll?

[fading iris]

Just stay in the center of the Arena the whole time

[severe folio]

yes

[bitter escarp]

just give psyker a stand staff

[severe folio]

though base staff a bit low i personally wouldnt let that down

[bitter escarp]

while it's active you have an ogryn following you

[potent echo]

True gamers

[bitter escarp]

man the more the ambient Inquisitorial team chatters in the background

[potent echo]

I still haven't heard granny's lines

[bitter escarp]

the more apparent it is how dysfunctional the entire lot really are

[fading iris]

Classic 40K

[bitter escarp]

Morrow in some pp waving contest with Hallowette

man's on Hallowette's boss' ship

[fading iris]

everything works by sheer luck and the Emperor's help

[bitter escarp]

fuck that was a doozy of a sentence

[potent echo]

Also big boss isn't home

[bitter escarp]

confiscating "contraband"

[potent echo]

Where is grendyl

[bitter escarp]

and eldest son is too busy trying to get promoted

went out for milk

[potent echo]

Yes

[fading iris]

Shipmistress gives a PP check at the start of the new mission

[bitter escarp]

Melk is a massive suckup, though points for shitting on zealots

[fading iris]

"Hey, piece of scrap, the ship you use is mine"

[wanton sandal]

shipmistress is new smilf

[bitter escarp]

Zola is so tightly wound idk how she hasn't popped a blood vessel

[fading iris]

the old she's there since day one

[bitter escarp]

Masozi is too busy being cool to really do much

[potent echo]

There's a voice line about Zola

Psyker says something like she doesn't know that she is hiding something

[bitter escarp]

Hadron is just...there's a reason the AM seconded her to an Inquisitor

[fading iris]

Everybody is hiding something that's 40k after all

[bitter escarp]

too much meme tism and lack of social graces even for an order of them

[desert mirage]

Ohhh

[bitter escarp]

probably a mind wipe or something of the sort for Zola

[bitter escarp]

wrong dump stat

[desert mirage]

fug

[potent echo]

Zola said she grew up in the torrents though, unless

[bitter escarp]

workable depending on difficulty you play on

[fading iris]

the only person that isn't hiding anything is Mara Vinci, the Comissary, and I hope nothin happens to her

[bitter escarp]

the conspiracy theory is that she's genestealer progeny

[desert mirage]

my current staff

[potent echo]

Cringestealer

Jk I dont have any feelings about them

[bitter escarp]

they get ubermensch stat boosts compared to baseline humans

though honestly idk how much of that is just being reasonably resourced at critical developmental periods

[fading iris]

the crew is a bunch of mememisfits because if they were lore accurate, everyday we would need to update to get a new VA and npc model

[potent echo]

We just got a Saturday morning cartoon villain this patch

If new enemy faction is gonna happen it's probably next year

[clear heath]

we're all expecting the guy in the carnival cutscene to end up as a boss right?

[fading iris]

It's our jail pal from the intro, he looks so lively and friendable

not angry at all

[bitter escarp]

nah it's an inquisitor's retinue

they're all misfits

[clear heath]

wonder how the boss fight will end up

[fading iris]

probably on a new mission on part 2

[clear heath]

you guys think he'll have a shield like the other assassination bosses?

[bitter escarp]

also Morrow would probably survive

[clear heath]

imagine if the fight just ends up being exactly the same

[bitter escarp]

hope one of the bossfights is trying to fight two at once

or even 3

[fading iris]

Morrow someday will end as Inquisitor Lord

[severe folio]

terrible

[bitter escarp]

and still be fucking with Hallowette

[severe folio]

ironically stat decent

[bitter escarp]

"oi you got a warrant for that?"

*loicense

[fading iris]

and yes, we have Inquisitor lords and the Lord Inquisitor, two different things, because in the grimdark of the 41st millenia, even burocracy is hell

[severe folio]

human bureaucracy is always hell

[bitter escarp]

same deal

just different terms of address

also inter Ordo slapfights

[potent echo]

We can have morrow doing a cool 1v3 while we support him from the backline

[clear heath]

so what's the most ordo dockets you guys have dumped on a single weapon? My friend just dumped 2 million dockets on a decent plasma gun yesterday

[potent echo]

2 million damn

[clear heath]

1 mill isn't unusual for me either. 2 mill is painful though

[bitter escarp]

it's a good thing some of y'all don't know about slot machines

or don't have easy access to them IRL

[strong gulch]

Silent trappers hiding behind things got me twice tonight. Heck

[potent echo]

The music too boppin to play specialists sounds jamCAT

[strong gulch]

Or trapper hiding in another trapper.

[bitter escarp]

"sure would be nice to have some of them contraband combat stimms now eh"

[potent echo]

The tzeentch surprise

[potent echo]

I'd imagine hallowette just scatters it across atoma and that's why you find them in random chests

[fading iris]

Sorry I went to check, yeah, there was a period that GW tried to put someone as a "leader" and the person would respond only to the Emperor and they used Lord Inquisitor, but that was scrapped and is back to the two are the same

and I don't know if that is good or bad, so I will choose yes as answer because it's GW after all

[lyric burrow]

does anyone know what causes/what is the fix for the out of memory error? i just got it on the new map for the first time wasnt sure if we just need to wait for a patch

dont think its my pc ive never gotten that error and i have heard people getting it recently

[fading iris]

Now I`m in another WH40K rabbit hole

it never ends

[sinful temple]

Are the Perlious Combustion and Wildfire talents any good on Psyker or are there better nodes to sink points in?

[sturdy dagger]

Perlious good wildfire stinky

[lyric burrow]

yeah perilous is good and easy to grab

wouldnt run wildfire

[hearty oak]

Whats the ideal blessings on a force sword?

I would imagine uncanny and unstable power but i wanted to know

[ashen schooner]

did the deimos heavy 2 always have such huge stagger?

I'm knocking around a crusher with it

all looks like p14 buffed it

[static needle]

Does voidstrike with warp flurry keep the charge speed increase even if i use venting shriek?

[hearty oak]

All questions and no answers

[ashen schooner]

yea warp flurry has a few seconds grace time now

[north cradle]

My thoughts on Force Sword blessings

[ashen schooner]

as much as I like deflect, I found I rarely used it

[north cradle]

Sometimes I'm hiding behind cover and popping up to cast Brain Burst on Gunners. Sometimes I'm advancing like I'm an Ogryn with a Slab Shield

[strong gulch]

Anyone feel like it's harder to stagger trappers?

[north cradle]

They are much harder to stagger when they're about to net you

[strong gulch]

Might just be having one of those nights.

But like, more than usual.

[potent echo]

Yea it's just one of those things

Point blank trapper is nothing personnel kid

[umbral helm]

trappers love me

so much so that it's become a running joke among friends that they're thirsty for my psyker and that's why they target him so much

[strong gulch]

True, but I mean before patch 15 compared to patch 15.

[bitter escarp]

also lost 10% power at baseline

which is probably not helping

[north cradle]

Psyker is in a love triangle with possibly a shard of the Emperor, and the Trapper

[umbral helm]

it's honestly become personal at this point, whenever I hear the trapper voice lines or sound effects I always whip around and go "NO"

[strong gulch]

Yip. RIP global +10% damage.

I think there was also mention of some minor changes to the AI / enemy pathing.

[fresh reef]

can you not vault while blocking or something?

[umbral helm]

the clambering has always felt fickle

[strong gulch]

I swear some areas that look like the same type of thing but are so inconsistent.

[fresh reef]

scoreboard from that match btw

basically a trios game. there's no way our other psyker was sober

[dim pagoda]

I just bought the current Psyker armor and it is not showing up in my cosmetics. I restarted my game JIC, but no... still not there. Shouldn't it show up immediately when purchased?

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/smg4-smg4skill-issue-skill-issue-smg4mario-smg4skill-gif-26104493

[wanton sandal]

if it isn't popping up, prolly either contact steam support or fatshark

[fading iris]

All those mods and you can't jump

[wanton sandal]

should be immediate

[umbral helm]

digital equivalent of a vending machine stealing your dollar

[wanton sandal]

also current psyker armor is mid (i forget which one it is I'm just throwing shade)

i did buy the last page one with the leather jacket and the voxcaster tho

shit is tight

[dim pagoda]

Guess I need to open a ticket. Commondore's shows purchased, but it's not available in my cosmetics.

[fading iris]

Krieg drip is the best drip

[bitter escarp]

got just the leather jacket

fits nicely with the zorro hat

[wanton sandal]

i love the jacket on krieg and nothing else

[fading iris]

You are... trying on your zealot, right?

[wanton sandal]

dude it looks so good

[bitter escarp]

yeah I had the cloth version too

shit was awful to match though, had to get them olive green pants

[fading iris]

wait, the name on the zealot page is another, which one is the comodore(besides the name of the shop)?

[wanton sandal]

lol

[worn cypress]

hey did they reset settings or otherwise change the controls after the update?

my character seems to handle different

[wanton sandal]

im running the brownish ones you get from the cosmetic shop with the jacket and the 2nd psiveil

it's drippy

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/warhammer-gif-26209389

[bitter escarp]

I run the zorro hat and mortis pants with the leather fencing jacket

[wanton sandal]

wish the hat didn't have a mask

it looks fancy af

[fading iris]

I just need a Krieg backpack

[strong gulch]

Is there a chance that you put funds in your steam wallet, but didn't buy the item??

[fresh reef]

absolutely love the hands on the 21st torso set

[fading iris]

and some weapon skins

[fresh reef]

can't wait to use it

[wanton sandal]

the makeshift doo hickey

[fresh reef]

got them fingerless thingamabobs

[wanton sandal]

not a fan of the cloth jackets unfortunately but that shit looks cool

[fresh reef]

the cloth jackets are my favorites and I'm so happy I have more than two to use now

[wanton sandal]

also why does psyker get tight pants

[bitter escarp]

watch fatshark put out a version sans mask veil thing

[wanton sandal]

the description of one of them even says they're uncomfortably tight

[bitter escarp]

because separating head slot and face slot was too much

[fresh reef]

thankfully the pants of the set aren't nearly as tight

[bitter escarp]

STC didn't include how to make good spandex

[fading iris]

Perfect to get stuck on doors... or jumping because of the cables

[wanton sandal]

i wish we got more freedom to customize our headgear

[bitter escarp]

keeps psyker on their toes

[wanton sandal]

like take the mask off witchshroud or add the giant collar on anything

[bitter escarp]

daemons are not prepared for one testicle getting squashed between pants and leg

[fresh reef]

@wanton sandal straight fit jeans

[dim pagoda]

Yep, that's it. I'm an idiot. Wrong character.

[wanton sandal]

in case of imminent daemonic possession, pull your pants up to crush your nuts and prevent the daemon from taking over bc no one wants that

[wanton sandal]

the goody ahh knee pads tho

[clear heath]

I had people in game talking about how movement feels different. I haven't noticed it, but has anyone else?

[bitter escarp]

autowedgie

[wanton sandal]

it made me sad the krieg kit didn't just get normal metal kneepads

like our other pants

[bitter escarp]

servers seem jankier than usual so that could be it

[fresh reef]

I like the knee pads personally

[desert mirage]

Is there a 'post current patch' super strong psyker build that doesnt rely on bugs to use?

[fresh reef]

just wish there was more stuff to match with em

[bitter escarp]

been struggling with psyker more than usual, melee feels like a chore

[south gull]

Fire Staff is oretty strong on the new map ive noticed

[wanton sandal]

true, I've been uncharacteristically rubber banding all dau

[wanton sandal]

it's really good till final area when it becomes Normandy and your veteran eats rocks

[fresh reef]

THEY DON'T MATCH, FUCK

[clear heath]

I'm pretty sure you can just keep using whatever voidstrike/assail build people have been using for the last 3 patches.

[south gull]

also the other thing ive noticd

[bitter escarp]

bubble is clutch on last setpiece

[south gull]

I just use assail to snipe

[bitter escarp]

especially if you have a shouty of some kind

[south gull]

most vets are ass

[wanton sandal]

trauma builds have been real good to me, and smite is still good for CC and clutching revives

assail is good to those who don't use it as a crutch lol

[bitter escarp]

assail could have been a good staff tbh

[wanton sandal]

i don't wanna slander all vets but dude seriously when I'm the one spamming my witch bolts at the ten gunners mowing us down while you shovel spam the horde, im gonna haunt your dreams

[fresh reef]

really not sure if I think this kitbashed monstrosity is ugly or not

[south gull]

I'm a vet main and saying this

[wanton sandal]

wtf is this

[bitter escarp]

when you need the psychic hood but there's three ogryns in the valk with you

and two of them refuse to shower

[fresh reef]

psyker helmet for the Vanguard pack

[wanton sandal]

data mined?

[bitter escarp]

because they want to keep cultivating powerful musk

[wanton sandal]

because if that's official then God emperor save us

lmao

[fresh reef]

enjoy

[desert mirage]

pog

[bitter escarp]

vet is so goddamn easy to play with a balanced diet of melee and ranged

but most of these Habsburg tier genetic cul-de-sacs want to cultivate fantasies of being Simo Hayha

[south gull]

I wouldnt go that far, Psyker is definitely easier than vet is right now

[fresh reef]

I need a psi-veil without those goofy facemasks. They're so god damn cool

please fatshark just put this in the game already

I will give you my money

[bitter escarp]

I've consistently been finding Vet to be less way finicky than Psyker these days

[clear heath]

idk man psyker is pretty easy

[bitter escarp]

axe and plasma, combat sword and revolver, and the meta hound plasma powersword

even with shout nerf it's still insane

[wanton sandal]

fr, watch them charge money to get it

[fresh reef]

praying that they're adding in new penances because:

[wanton sandal]

oh that looks sick

[fresh reef]

note the name tho

[wanton sandal]

Hopefully ™️ it's penance stuff

[bitter escarp]

the inquisitorial cyclops with the all-seeing I

[wanton sandal]

bc emperor knows I could never justify why I would buy a version of a cosmetic with no mask for $10

🥹

[desert mirage]

I put the mod in but idk where to look to see em all

nvm, lol

[wanton sandal]

wait if thats what it says for that veil

what about the diff versions of the psiveil?

[fresh reef]

that's the only one with an incomplete name I think

but there's a view others with similar descriptions

[wanton sandal]

ah

[desert mirage]

Ohh neat, does this work like weapon customization mods?

[fresh reef]

mentioning it's part of a career

[wanton sandal]

i think it just let's you view them

not use em

[desert mirage]

it says I can equip them

[fresh reef]

you can not

[desert mirage]

ohh right

[fresh reef]

the button is nonfunctional

[desert mirage]

yea, just inspect

[wanton sandal]

it would be too cool if you could just equip them client side

[fresh reef]

believe me, I tried

[desert mirage]

I like the psyker cowboy hat

[fresh reef]

I was really bored and had nothing better to do so I hit equip on every unreleased cosmetic psyker had

[wanton sandal]

and I'm p sure fatshark would c&d any mod that let you bypass the commodore lol

[fresh reef]

shockingly, nothing came of it

[fresh reef]

mod actually got banned off nexus because they feared it did this exact thing

(the site it's hosted on now is terrible btw, which is why I didn't link there. lots of nazi and loli garbage)

[bitter escarp]

thank you for your service

[wanton sandal]

why not on the darktide mod discord?

[fresh reef]

good question, idk

[wanton sandal]

with the weapon customization mod

hm!

ill have to dl it and comb through the psyker cosmetics

[eager agate]

with the new update anyone got any good builds? I'm struggling to find something

[wanton sandal]

see if there's any sick ones

[bitter escarp]

fs policy seems to be that they don't mind people playing with cosmetics that affect only them

[wanton sandal]

rn I'm running blazing crit trauma staff with smite and mind in motion, EP, and bubble shield

[bitter escarp]

some of the weapon customization options are very much from the cash shop

[fresh reef]

here's what I'm running atm (I have gunner ptsd from the new map)

[olive ember]

4chan?

[fresh reef]

MiM 🤮

[fresh reef]

basically yeah

it's "basedmods"

[desert mirage]

whew lad

[wanton sandal]

stfu mim is slept on

[olive ember]

Based mods lmao

[wanton sandal]

let's you keep MOVING!!!

[fresh reef]

there's a mod on that site that gives Peter Parker, a jew, a nazi suit

[fresh reef]

I want my bra back

[wanton sandal]

with diamond tip nips

[bitter escarp]

ugh what

[wanton sandal]

the modelers were nutty with that

[fresh reef]

Please give it back fatshark

I love this look so much

[bitter escarp]

some joyless stooge at GW: no

[fresh reef]

?

[wanton sandal]

tbh let's be glad GW let fatshark use the IP for three good horde shooters

[fresh reef]

they literally just look like my nipples what's wrong with them 😭

[tame venture]

Peter Parker is protestant though?

[wanton sandal]

bro when you look at em from the side they're razor sharp

[bitter escarp]

outside of the Dawn of War franchise, probs been the most successful GW gaming venture

[wanton sandal]

ready to kill

[bitter escarp]

and Total Warhammer

[bitter escarp]

but that one's been a shitshow lately

[fresh reef]

I dunno man

just looks like normal nipple to me

[wanton sandal]

oh damn wtf they changed it

lmao

[bitter escarp]

SM1 + SM2 might top the tide games though

[wanton sandal]

i remember when it was first possible to take off the shirt shit was sharp

[bitter escarp]

LOD nipple?

[tame venture]

The diamantine goes somewhere I guess

[wanton sandal]

Basically

[fresh reef]

LOD nipple.

these are the discussions of unparalleled minds, clearly

[fresh reef]

apologies, I was a victim of not actually being into Spiderman at all and was misinformed by someone else lol

[tame venture]

Yeah tbh it sounds like they exaggerated the story

[vale hatch]

Playing darktide with random is experiencing your teammate blowing up every barrel on you

[fresh reef]

oh no, there was no exaggeration on how bad it was

I can find the thumbnail for the mod and send in dms

[tame venture]

Exaggerating the situation

[fresh reef]

I mean still

[bitter escarp]

can confirm, having a look and holy shit

[wanton sandal]

experiencing darktide with randos is having no one take advantage of you freezing 5 ragers and 3 crushers in place for 15s

[tame venture]

One thing about that site I find "funny" is that the "LGBT free" mod is just set the region info to the middle east.

So effectively the developers made it themselves because they don't want to offend someone

[vale hatch]

i just got tk by a dude hitting the barrel while i was blocking then it sent me off the bridge lmaoo

[bitter escarp]

3/5 showcased mods are about removing non-white ethnicities and LGBTQIA folk

[wanton sandal]

the lengths people will go to for a Spiderman game

like, of all games

[tame venture]

Tbh some characters feel like that's the only reason they exist

Like common flesh out the character or something

[bitter escarp]

1 is about nerfing certain ethnicities in Rimworld, and the last is a mass shooter's character model for Gmod

[fresh reef]

lol

[bitter escarp]

so fucking fragile lmfao

[fresh reef]

genuinely fucking rent free

[bitter escarp]

for people who hate commies

and the queers

they sure like hosting them rent free kek

[tame venture]

Well tbf you guys are talking about deleting a texture file

[fresh reef]

technically replacing the texture, since it's baked into the wall probably

[tame venture]

Most of this is pretty clearly done to bait reactions

Don't feed the troll and all that

Smh

[fresh reef]

part of me doesn't think trolls would go through the process of making a whole new "free speech oriented" nexus mods ripoff just for the sake of trolling

[fading iris]

The first time wasn't, but after the Nexus mod ban, turned into, almost a speedrun category

why are we talking about that here, tho? I prefer the classic "Surge bad, class unplayable"

[pine gull]

Is gunpsyker good with braced autogun and chainsword?

[pine gull]

What the fuck

[bitter escarp]

psyker doesn't get braced autogun

[pine gull]

Okay cool there goes my hopes and dreams

Thanks bro

[fresh reef]

wheeze

ok I'm done posting about this garbage but like holy fuck man

[pine gull]

I thought this was a channel for psyker discussion ._.

[bitter escarp]

FWIW the Columnus Infantry is pretty similar in feel, if not quite an identical experience

real ammo hound though

[fading iris]

Where is the gunsker hability to bring ammo from the warp

[fresh reef]

caseless warp bullets

[bitter escarp]

warp ammo doesn't do SAAMI specs

[pine gull]

I just like autogun style. Same for chainsword. And wanted to know if it'd be good at high difficulty with assail

Cause assail is also cool

Man fuck meta all my picks are the vibes

[fading iris]

gonna be honest, I think the only spec needed is "kills heretics"

[bitter escarp]

it can be, IME gun psyker has poor gun uptime because of ammo use

so you need to have your bases covered with your blitz, melee, and maybe your team

[pine gull]

I feel like that would be semi assisted with assails regen no?

And chainsword being a generalist melee somewhat

[paper ember]

Which blessings/perks should i put on my Ilissi Force sword ? I play a purgatus/dome/brain burst build. Mainly support

[tulip trench]

is this any good?

[bitter escarp]

I have a Mk 4 dueling sword on my gun psyker for hard targets and light horde work, a Columnus IAG for big fatties, and Assail for pruning hordes down to size

[pine gull]

Is chainsword special good for hard targets?

[bitter escarp]

what difficulty?

[pine gull]

Just say auric to argue

[bitter escarp]

no

[pine gull]

FUCK

[bitter escarp]

specials that animation lock you are hard to justify

if you're doing well with them it's usually in spite of their shittery

[fading iris]

1 QoL that I want is telling in the mission if it has more dregs or scabs

[pine gull]

So it's not as easy as like dueling sword but it CAN work for auric?

I'm mostly just trying to not be an active drain on the team while having my fun picks

[bitter escarp]

pick a deimos or something

no need to die on this particular hill

[pine gull]

The hill I'm dying on is fun

[bitter escarp]

dueling sword is a weird one, it seems like most people use it as a special purpose weapon and use ranged the rest of the time

[pine gull]

If it's genuinely awful I'll swap

[bitter escarp]

I kinda enjoy using DS at baseline

[pine gull]

But I wanna know if I could make it work

[bitter escarp]

test it out?

psykhanium, then in a match

[pine gull]

You seem more competent than me

[bitter escarp]

but I'm not you

can't know how it'll work for you until you give it a proper go

[pine gull]

Fair

Appreciate the thoughts

o7

[ashen schooner]

yes chainsword special is good and can be used in high level stuff

[bitter escarp]

hard targets he said

[ashen schooner]

just need to use when you won't get git

[bitter escarp]

Crushers and the like

[tame venture]

Chainsword is good

[ashen schooner]

yes chainsword special is good vs crusher

[tame venture]

For hordes just heavy spam

[bitter escarp]

here

what kind of DPS numbers are you getting vs Crushers

vs something that mounts Uncanny Strike on it?

[tame venture]

Being overall serviceable, but struggling against one enemy does not mean it's bad

[bitter escarp]

specified hard targets

[tame venture]

Besides, you should be brainbursting crushers anyway 😉

[bitter escarp]

my answer addressed hard targets

it's a good generalist weapon but has notable weaknesses against Carapace

[pine gull]

Assail go brrr

[bitter escarp]

Assail go tinkle tinkle

[tame venture]

Ass hail plinks off crushers

[onyx sentinel]

psykers are getting recycled chestpiece for the Vanguard bundle

[bitter escarp]

carapace armour breaks assail darts IIRC

[tame venture]

🤔does the Rmb throw on maulers break em?

Vs the lmb

[pine gull]

Covering bases was assail for horde trimming chainsword hard targets and autogun misc targets

[onyx sentinel]

at least the helmet is unique looking

[tame venture]

Faction known for mass produced, standardized equipment
Character gets a standardized model

[ashen schooner]

it's not better than a uncanny dueling sword/deimos, but just killed a crusher with 2 charged chainsword heavys in meat grinder

[tame venture]

Now do it one handed

[fading iris]

I managed to carry a team on carnival with LMB surge, including a clutch moment... the sad part, the clutch would've be much easier if the smite wasn't on its rebel years on where to hit on the mob body part

[frail sand]

i love new players in damnation i love new players in damnation

[tame venture]

We're all new players

[onyx sentinel]

They could’ve given out any set but they choose the one most similar to existing free sets i.e. ones that won’t sell as well

[pine gull]

Sorry

[brazen warren]

if you head to the opposite side of the room from the start button on the new map the hold out is much much easier

[onyx sentinel]

at least I didn’t buy imperial edition I’d be miffed lmao

[frail sand]

i dont care if new players go down, thats perfectly fine. i love when said new player aggros daemonhost twice in the same match

[fading iris]

I still have zero damnation missions played

[frail sand]

yeah but u wouldnt trigger DH twice in the same match

[fading iris]

I don't hug deamonhosts tho

[pine gull]

Sorry. Got thrown at him.

[frail sand]

not thrown

walked into DH straight

when pinged

very adorable

[fading iris]

I legit did this mistake once which was the first time that the daemonhost appeared for me and nobody tagged to signal "bad juju", but one time was enough

[pine gull]

Still sorry for my and others collective skill issues. I will stay in lowest difficulty till level 30.

[frail sand]

one time idc, it happens

but 2nd time like 5 mins apart? pls not like this

[fading iris]

I don't even center screen besides to tag

I got my deamonhost kill tho

and wasn't a carry, but boi so much running and "fuckfuckfuckfuck"

so many names used for the dude that hugged it

[tulip trench]

ok...
autopistol, stub revolver or recon lasgun/columnus?

right now im using illisi for hordes, stub for heavys (2-3 tapping crushers <3) and smite for oh shit horde moments

[tame venture]

I once got vored by a BoN, taken to the other side of the map, spat out into a wall, where I was stuck, locking up the mission until I could dislodge myself and fall into the void

[pine gull]

Autopistol looks coolest

That is my take. Good luck.

[tulip trench]

how does it fair against carapaced enemies?

[fading iris]

++ The WARP ++

[tame venture]

Columbus is the standout imo, shredder is fun, good for zoomies but idk if best. Recon lasguns ain't great, and revolvers are kinda high effort

[tame venture]

the immaterium works in strange ways

[pine gull]

I am not the smart person for this I just run the cool options and try to make it work

[olive ember]

Laspistol and vraks 3/7 autoguns are the meta gun options for psyker

[tame venture]

Laspistol neeeeds internus though, right?

[tulip trench]

im finding revolver real good for carapace baddies, but really struggle against normal ranged enemies

recon the flip

[olive ember]

Needs dumdum infernus is mostly boss damage iirc

[tulip trench]

hows columnus vs carapace?

[plucky flax]

Yep won my first game on new map with trauma. Flat kinda cqb map without elevation so it's gucci.

[fading iris]

I have some Deamonhost kills, but they`re always two options: "Hell broke lose but only one died" and "An Ogryn tanked the hell of it and showed the DH whos boss"

[hearty oak]

disgusting

[tulip trench]

tears crushers apart?

[fading iris]

the good kind or the bad kind

[hearty oak]

obviously not good against crushers

[fading iris]

[brazen warren]

I do not know the attack patern to dodge demonhosts, but I can tank them reasonably well

do you just dodge sideways instead of backwards?

[still hearth]

Zealots not tanking DH smh

[olive ember]

If you want anti crusher just run voidstrike

None of the psyker guns besides revolver is good against crushers

[fading iris]

not yet, and for the ones that aggroe'd, one psyker, one zealot, rest veterans

[olive ember]

And revolver is like super meh on psyker

[still hearth]

Typical Zealots

Not even running pure DR

[brazen warren]

depends on your build and how familiar you are with its use. it can be a powerhouse

2-3 head shot kill crushers, one shot specials

[tulip trench]

ya im liking it for killing crushers

but strugling with ranged enemies

d/t slow reload

and low mag size

[olive ember]

What are you running for your ability

[tulip trench]

smite, bubble

[olive ember]

That explains a lot

[brazen warren]

you dont need SG to make it great, but it helps hit the 2 shot break point on crushers

[tulip trench]

how is assail on armoured enemies?

[olive ember]

Not good

[brazen warren]

we talking crushers/maulers?

[olive ember]

If you jump through hoops it can hit 1k

[mental grail]

ass

[brazen warren]

or shotgunners, gunners, and ragers

[tulip trench]

what about on flamers, gunners, snipers etc

ranged enemies

[olive ember]

Decent

To strong

[brazen warren]

assail can work, but the travel time causes the tracking to get fucky after a moderate distance

[tulip trench]

does the RMB for assail lock onto a target?

[brazen warren]

unintentional trash magnetism when dealing with shooters

[olive ember]

it’s his best option if he’s running revolver ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[brazen warren]

it does

[tulip trench]

or am i better off just switching to columnus + BB

[brazen warren]

smite revolver can work fine, you just need an anti horde melee

[olive ember]

Smite is like

[tulip trench]

im using illisi for horde

[olive ember]

Smite is kinda meme in general tbh

[royal ibex]

you see their head light up, like with brain blast

[olive ember]

It requires having good teammates and therefore it’s meh

[brazen warren]

smite scales off of your teammates awareness of its effect

[tulip trench]

this

[brazen warren]

so you cannot control how good it is at cleaning up a situation

[tulip trench]

and this

im finding

i lightning and my teammates go "oh he'll kill them then" and turn to a different horde
when im counting on them killing the guys im stunning

[frail sand]

yeah smite can pause a situation

but the problem is still there

[olive ember]

Smite kinda runs into the same problem as old surge staff where trash teammates can’t utilize the stun you provide, but good teammates don’t need the stun and often would just prefer you bring an actual weapon

[fading iris]

the body part thing is totally breaking my jam, because I really liked to use surge smite as opener

[tulip trench]

ya they see me use it and assume ill kill them and then leave and i get overrun

[mental grail]

good choice

[fading iris]

btw not even the characters are believing on psyker after the update, I got the psyker praise two times from the same character during the mission

[olive ember]

I find it hilarious they got rid of what made surge good without buffing surge and then made surge worse with hit zones

10/10 fatshark things I guess

[mental grail]

Zealot just shat on my psyker in my first mission after the update

[hearty oak]

gib psyker talent to count as dodging while sprinting

[mental grail]

my squad was full of haters

[olive ember]

Zealots and ogryn are both different degrees of broken

Psyker is alright after getting nerf and nerf

Vet is okay? But their tree is def a bit bloated

[hearty oak]

gunker is still really strong

[mental grail]

"a bit"

wheeze

[olive ember]

Eh it’s not that bad

[brazen warren]

I have been experimenting with BB SG DCIV columnus gunker

[olive ember]

Vets plenty strong I just don’t know why they have 20 more nodes vs everyone else

[hearty oak]

sg?

[brazen warren]

melee for horde sweep, gun for boss dps and shooters, BB for crushers, maulers, and specials that run away

Scriers gaze

[fading iris]

level cap update confirmed

[hearty oak]

Oh. So essentially my build i been using the past few days then

[olive ember]

Honestly an easy fix would just be to combine some abilities

[brazen warren]

have found that the BB node that gives faster cast rate allows you to put out 3 BB's back to back without blowing your head off within an SG cast

[fading iris]

"why vets have stacked talent trees?" level cap update on part 2

[tulip trench]

ok so then
illisi, BB, Columnus (gun for range, blitz for carapace)
vs
illisi, assail, revolver (gun for carapace, blitz for range)

[olive ember]

That’s always been the case no?

[hearty oak]

I dont use it. Mind flayer just for the auto casts is really nice since you are hitting something so many times

[olive ember]

Neither are gun psyker meta but both work

[brazen warren]

I have not been using BB at all with SG so it was nice to find out they lined up

I only pull out combo BB when I need crusher/mauler/bulwark/reaper dead in one go

[mental grail]

What is gunker top 3 meta?

[olive ember]

Las pistol, vraks 7, vraks 3

[brazen warren]

define what you mean by meta

guns?

full load out?

[olive ember]

If you want boss damage, tho those guns can also kill everything short of crushers

[spice veldt]

Columnus IAG as well

[olive ember]

I’m psure the headhunters can also delete crushers but I think that requires rending which psyker doesn’t have

[hearty oak]

*The uhhh... mk 5, the mk 5, and the mk 5 colum

[brazen warren]

columnus raking fire with unyielding is much more consistent I have found for boss dps because you dont need to aim as much

[tulip trench]

is autopistol worth using at all? hows it fair against carapace?

[olive ember]

Trash

Unless you are zealot

[hearty oak]

Could be better. feels like a weaker IAG

[brazen warren]

if you crit and are in melee range maybe its subpar

[olive ember]

Autopistol is aight now but I def wouldn’t run it on psyker anhmore

[brazen warren]

not the monster it was before

and we have better horde clear options

[hearty oak]

Maniacs are a huge threat to the psyker so maniac is gonna have to stay. The damage output is just gross anyways enough though you can dumpster a boss without the extra 25%

[olive ember]

It’s still good just cuz ap shredder is pistol pullout time and then spray

Just not

Melt everything I see

[strong gulch]

Noice.

Slotted stairs and grated floors are mighty foes.

[ornate hamlet]

I miss melting things with the autopistol

Now it feels like everything takes two years to die, even shooters eating shit from headshots with zealot's 25% ranged damage buff

[brazen warren]

if you can get maniac/unyielding with raking/dumdum seems good

[strong gulch]

Also the tiniest of lips while channeling.

[olive ember]

This is why you use purge staff

All the fire

None of the jank

Zero brain power needed

[brazen warren]

I dont find I have issues with maniacs when I use my columnus, but bosses are something I want dead quick

[plucky flax]

We held the final event right at the place where you push the button to start it. It was a really bad place to hold out.

[fading iris]

https://tenor.com/view/power-rage-supersayin-explode-omfg-gif-13980216

[hearty oak]

I take issue with a horde of ragers before a BoN

[olive ember]

It ain’t that bad

[brazen warren]

activate SG, hold left click, aim for the neck, win

[olive ember]

Only trash spawn on the side and all the elites do a funny drop down right in front of you and then funnel up a stairway

[brazen warren]

power walk away from them and let the vet get killed

[fading iris]

If I end up changing from surge, I def want to go to purgatus and then use assail for the range that the fire doesn't get

[strong gulch]

For sure! We did the same. The entire time I was like "THIS IS A BAD PLACE".

[plucky flax]

The shooters and gunners spawned on the other side of the area and were shooting me for free

[fading iris]

Ppl keep trying to hold at the button

[hearty oak]

Do you use disrupt destiny?

[olive ember]

You would be using BB for access to wildfire perk but also for anti armor since purge can’t deal with crushers

[brazen warren]

Warp siphon

[plucky flax]

Going near the entrance to the final event would be better since that's where shooters spawn.

[onyx sentinel]

I just realized how braindead it is to spam lmb on crit staff builds, infinite mettle stacks and perma ranged dodge

[fading iris]

I tried to push the team into the entrace that someone here gave the idea, but boi, ppl really love to kill herectis in weird places

[olive ember]

[brazen warren]

extra toughness regen and down time buffs work better for me

[olive ember]

Am I misremembering

[hearty oak]

disrupt works great for the crit build

[olive ember]

The entire area near where you press button has cover

[plucky flax]

I think you are mate.

[olive ember]

Or was I just playing martyrdom zealot

[hearty oak]

and the zoomies

[plucky flax]

No it is open balcony.

[olive ember]

Maybe it was the martyrdom

[onyx sentinel]

I run blazing trauma unfortunately

[olive ember]

Probably martyrdom

[brazen warren]

DD can work, but you need to roll decent shooter spawn rates in the mission

[fading iris]

But pew pew shard spam

[olive ember]

And the fact that I ran down the shooters for fun

[brazen warren]

and get the kills on the shooters

[plucky flax]

There are low railings hips height. It can block some bullets I guess.

[onyx sentinel]

Oh nvm you were replying yo someone else lmao

[brazen warren]

auto pistol would actually be fun with DD for maximum gangster hunting

[strong gulch]

Open balcony with a column or two. Stairs and doors on either side that enemies pour out of.

[hearty oak]

Works well for me most missions. I been wanting BB with wrap battery without sacrificing combustion

[olive ember]

Huh I don’t recall getting shot like at all

And I ran two missions earlier today

[tulip trench]

ok gonna run columnus for ranged enemies and BB for crushers/maulers/bosses
i like not having to micromanage peril as much with EP too

[hearty oak]

Still working on building a good staff

[olive ember]

Myeh I’ll pay some attention next time ig

Time to go sleep sleep

[fading iris]

There is only one true way to play the ending of the carnival: Stay in the middle of the arena doing a cosplay of Jet-Li at the end of the movie "The One" while Papa Roach is blasting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ws8JocOpkvY

[strong gulch]

Every time that I've gone to the new mission it's been shooter heavy.

One mission I actually took purg with Empathic Evasion. It felt like cheating.

Me "dodging".
https://tenor.com/view/cat-standing-standing-cute-cat-cat-cute-cute-gif-17567554

[ornate hamlet]

I prefer the Separate Ways edit

[vagrant frigate]

@raw minnow gg dog

lemme see the scoreboard

[ornate hamlet]

This is the only edit I can find, Allah forgive my soul https://www.tiktok.com/@omnimateria/video/7135896919347334446

Nice song

Catchy

[fresh reef]

me fighting off all the rejects who willingly enter the beast of nurgle

[ornate hamlet]

Me fighting off the poxwalkers one at a time with pre-patch dueling sword

[fresh reef]

I always forget how fucking huge ogryns are compared to humans

[ornate hamlet]

tiny-ass mf

[strong gulch]

They just want to go slugging. Hydrate their skin.

[ornate hamlet]

eat your cereal

[clear heath]

ok played a few games with surge staff
It's like, playable, but it's noticeably worse and it's annoying when it randomly just does half damage to a trapper

[strong gulch]

Agree. Summed up perfectly.

[clear heath]

Like the damage is so much worse that soulblaze from creeping flames is almost tied to the weapon itself.
Last patch it used to be double my soulblaze damage

[strong gulch]

Your "teammate" grabbed 0 plasteel.

traitor

[native plover]

Indeed most ogryns i get in quickplay forget this and eat tons of friendly fire because they walked into the firing line when they could just shoot over me

[clear heath]

lmao i never noticed

[vague chasm]

I'm trying to look it up but found inconclusive stuff. How was the surge staff nerfed? Forget about the bug, I didn't use it so I'm not affected at all.

[clear heath]

It hits random body parts now

a lot of the time it hits arms

and loses like half its damage

[strong gulch]

yup

[native plover]

It was not nerfed, just bug fixed

[strong gulch]

It was nerfed. Not talking about the smite and EP bug.

[vague chasm]

Oh... As a a surge main it hurts...

[native plover]

It didn't need a nerf though

[clear heath]

It's super noticeable that it's hitting random parts if you surge a reaper and watch it cycle between 3 different armor types

[strong gulch]

The way the RMB on surge staff hits targets is random now.

[clear heath]

cause those things are flak cara and unyeilding in different parts

[strong gulch]

yip

Trying to surge a scab shot gunner and get unarmored. 🙃

[crystal oxide]

Gunker proving that the ability to use micro missiles really saves ammo

[clear heath]

Super fun to hit for 800 on non-crit and then crit for 300 on an enemy's fucking arm

[crystal oxide]

Everyone else had gone dry at the Amphitheatre

[fading iris]

Pure Heresy

[vague chasm]

Imo bug aside surge was in a perfect spot pre-update. Not insane (but still good) damage and excellent CC

[strong gulch]

yup 🥲

[tiny swallow]

would mk4 dueling sword, flame staff, and brain burst be a decent setup? im wanting to try the flame staff but im not sure what to pair it with

[native plover]

At this rate i might aswell run gun psyker since they keep nerfing the staffs..

[strong gulch]

https://tenor.com/view/hershey-bar-chocolate-bar-hersheys-hershey-milk-chocolate-bar-candy-bar-gif-13954481371947935208

[clear heath]

yeah i'd be pretty happy with it if all they did was fix the EP bug

[fading iris]

not that one

[vague chasm]

Thanks guys tho, I'll go cry in a corner of my room while searching some gun psyker builds...

[clear heath]

also man smite and soulblaze is super satisfying on big hordes

hitting like the entire map with smite feels so good

[strong gulch]

Just shock some balloons to stick them to things.

[native plover]

Satisfying overall imo

Still, why do FS feel the need to shoot themselves in the foot with unecessary nerfs?

[clear heath]

yeah idk who asked for unbugged surge to be nerfed further

like who actually wanted this?

[strong gulch]

A lot of people already thought unbugged surge was too weak.

[clear heath]

I thought it was fine but i would've never expected a nerf

[tulip trench]

ok so columnus strong af

[summer prairie]

pretty clear it wasn't intended to be a nerf. Someone likely thought they should be able to weakspot hit and didn't realize the other issues

[strong gulch]

I'm not asking to be able to one shot crushers, but with surge's CC reduced and it positioned to do single target damage, knife shouldn't be able to take a crusher down just as fast or faster with push attack spam as surge does with full charges.

[native plover]

Dunno with surge's CC barely existing, it being big single-target damage fills a role nicely

[strong gulch]

I would like a slight pre-nerf buff, but also it's easy to get disablers. So I would be upset if it didn't get buffed (from before nerf).

[pale bough]

Didn’t void already do that

[native plover]

EP bug was bit too powerful bit close around there would be fine

[clear heath]

I would like it to be back to how it was without EP bug, but maybe make it target 3 normally

[native plover]

Void is AoE aswell lot of it. Cleave

[pale bough]

Yeah. So void just sounds better in every way now

Seems as though surge lost its identity completely

[strong gulch]

I'd be happy with that. Either slight buff to damage or CC.

[obtuse moth]

surge is hitscan and autoaim

[clear heath]

I've always felt like it's best usecase was quickly disrupting and killing shooters/gunners
But only hitting 2 and then sometimes randomly not killing them is kinda lame

[summer prairie]

it should do high damage to one target and enough to some additional targets to kill low hp enemies

[obtuse moth]

not better in every way, most ways but surge has a small small niche

[clear heath]

Like it was never actually good at crushers and idk why people here tend to argue about crusher killing speed so much

[obtuse moth]

its amazing for stopping specials through fire and smoke and around corners

[vague chasm]

Autoaim that zaps enemies on the foot is less than optimal

[strong gulch]

With smite, it can't go back to 6 - 8 targets.

Unless there was baked in boss damage or something.

Even when it was CC heavy, it was still better at crushers.

[obtuse moth]

you can be effective with basically zero visibility unlike voidstrike

[clear heath]

People who hated on surge tended to argue about how trauma/void would do better against crusher packs

as if that was the main job

[vague chasm]

It still has it's own role but there was no need to shit on it further

[strong gulch]

special killer and shooters

[obtuse moth]

idk if i like it for shooters

[fresh reef]

:/

[clear heath]

Being able to kill trappers with a relatively quick charge time was one of its appeals

now it randomly leaves them with half health

very fun!

[fading iris]

I just poke them with assail

[obtuse moth]

what did they do?

[warped meadow]

and consistently stunning mutants

[clear heath]

Hits random body parts now

[glossy ember]

melk so close yet so far of delivering an incredible roll

[clear heath]

try surging a reaper in psykanium and watch it flicker between 3 different armor types

[obtuse moth]

oh so it'll hit carapace and flak when it didnt before?

[fresh reef]

pretty sure it's some kinda leftover spaghetti code, because I'm noticing that smite is hitting body parts too

[clear heath]

a lot of the time it hits arms and just does half damage

[fresh reef]

namely heads, via yellow hitmarker

[summer prairie]

it's all new code

[obtuse moth]

yellow hit is crit afaik and orange is weakspot

[fading iris]

two fixes that put the damage into normal because were talent bugs, and a change to the body part system that isn't on the patch notes and feels like a bug or undercooked before the time update

[fresh reef]

I'm not sure if they're different, they both look yellow to me

[silk hawk]

u might have some type of color blindness, try out different color blindness settings

[fading iris]

Still usable, but now Surge is more unforgiven

[silk hawk]

bcuz these 2 colors are clearly different for me....

[lusty mauve]

I leveld up a zealot then veteran and now i am thinking of leveling a psyker any tips on what to use to get to 30? Ill probably stick to the lower diffculties like 2 and 3 at the start

[limber tartan]

Anybody else having issues entering psykanium ?

[silk hawk]

a have a best tip for u, dont play psyker in that patch xD

[limber tartan]

Like the prompt to interract with the servoskull to enter it shows only for like split second

[obtuse moth]

abuse assail and profit, avoid trauma staff till 30

[limber tartan]

And then it does not

[lusty mauve]

Nooooo whyyy, but vet is also fucked that is why i want psyker

[fresh reef]

hitmarker doesn't change color for crits, apparently

[silk hawk]

just for orgryn first

[manic halo]

the sounds it makes

EWWWW

EWWWWWWW

[lusty mauve]

But why

[silk hawk]

psyker is not in a best shape rn xD

[fresh reef]

?

[silk hawk]

too many bugs all around

[fresh reef]

I mean surge is in the dumpster, but everything else feels fine

[ashen schooner]

psyker is just as good as before minus surge and a weaker asail

[native plover]

He is zealot spy, wanting to make less psykers around

[summer prairie]

also not very likely that whoever implemented this thought that it was only for smite because almost immediately before this new hit zone code they implemented fixes for some Smite node buffs applying to Surge. Most likely just didn't realize that some hit zones take way less damage or the code wasn't intended to be included in this state

[clear heath]

this is so silly

[limber tartan]

Yea some people are really overreacting with the psyker nerfs like it just feels like those people just relied on surge removing an enemy from this plane of existance at an atomic level and now that they can't do that they loose their shit

[summer prairie]

2 numbers and a bar for peril

wait 3 numbers

[clear heath]

listen i really wanted to know my peril

[potent echo]

Remember the first powersword exodus

I do

We need an oldgryn emote

[lusty mauve]

So psyker is still good freddy>

[ashen schooner]

infinte cleave to.....like 12/15

poor poor powersword

[fresh reef]

gaming

[potent echo]

Also no more free powercycler

[limber tartan]

Yea the nerf has not affected me in the slightest

[potent echo]

Wha

Powersword had 3 hits initially

[fading iris]

Could've been worse, to be honest

[potent echo]

Now you need powercycler

This is like beta/early times

Psyker always good since I don't use surge exploit or assail

[native plover]

Only thing is with running smite and venting shriek with fire is that I immediately miss my dome shield. So useful

[potent echo]

Nothing changed really except warp rider

[spice veldt]

there were also a lot of people who misunderstood the patchnote for psword's nerf

[limber tartan]

Yea warp rider is no longer just free 10% damage now you do need to get your perils up

[spice veldt]

and thought that it had a target limit of 10 for some reason

[limber tartan]

What is the coherency aura range by default ?

[native plover]

So how much we wanna bet they fix before part 2 arrives to break it all again?

[fading iris]

Psykers that were using the EP bug and now are crying bout... they need to suffer

[potent echo]

The day something isn't broken in some new patch is the day I buy everything in their aquilla store

[near wyvern]

yes, the only thing the nerfs really change are:

• When Assail weaving you gota do 3-4 LMB and finish with 1 RMB to build up peril, keep up is still done with LMB
• Regular Gun Psyker builds got fucked up since they cannot meet the same break points anymore while they were barely valied before the change

staff builds are still the same, even more so if you have warp nexus and edge

Psylot build is still very effective when played right

Exhibition A

[vague chasm]

We are not talking about that nerf, I didn't use the EP bug but still got hit. Now surge targets random enemy parts, that means 4 times out of 6 it targets the limbs halving the damage

[near wyvern]

I think that's only on crushers, regular mobs have 4 body parts, 2 arms, body and head

[fading iris]

Well, that wasn't a nerf, but a bug fix, just like the body parts could be a bug since isn't in the patch notes

[limber tartan]

I actually do run gun psyker but the way i play was not really affected by it except for the warp rider nerf soo now im wondering if i want to go with it or relocate my points to something else

[near wyvern]

they intentionally added the code, it is possible it was intended for Smite but since they have Smite and Surge so intertwined here we are

[spark parcel]

I'm hoping Surge hitting body parts for reduced is a bug, I swapped from Surge to Voidstrike in the meantime

[near wyvern]

which gun you use?

[vague chasm]

Well yes, you are right on the first part, I don't care too much since I preferred the left tree in general

[fading iris]

Could be something for Part 2 that ended up going live early... because that sounds like something that FatShark could do on a oopsie moment, that's why I say "could be a bug" not "is a bug"

[manic halo]

build goes hard

[limber tartan]

I decided unarmored was better than flak because for some reason flak armored enemies die easier than unarmored ones

[manic halo]

knife psyker is real

[fresh reef]

10 meters

[near wyvern]

I tried laspistol since it has the special to keep up peril but just ended up using way more ammo than what was feasible :/

[near wyvern]

hell yeah it is, especially with one point in DD

[limber tartan]

Oh i don't have issues with ammo with it that is why i prefer it over other options

[fading iris]

Hey! This isn't the veteran cha...oh

[strong gulch]

Same. I ended up using assail to to supplement ammo.

[manic halo]

im thinking

with bullets

[limber tartan]

you can call it a "gun psyker" because it has a gun but i don't only use my gun i swap quite frequently between my blitz, gun and my melee and run circles around enemies

[wet belfry]

As a whole i find this update pretty disspointing

[potent echo]

Laspistol actually has worse ammo economy than a columnus, wild

[near wyvern]

surgical hand cannon revolver + smite with creeping flames was surprisingly successful, gonna add that to Atheneum soon

[potent echo]

Smite creeping flames gunker let's go

[limber tartan]

The laspistol is for removing ranged enemies and elites + specials in some cases and permamently regenerating my toughness as well as coupled with emphatic evasions means ranged enemies have a tough time actually hitting me at all

[plucky flax]

Handcannon assail

[strong gulch]

I haven't checked on my revolver build. I am sure the break points are borked.

But that is exactly what I was thinking about switching too.

[strong gulch]

🫂

[limber tartan]

And even if they do i regen 22% of my toughness on a crit weakspot kill

[fading iris]

The current bugs are a plot to make ppl spend even more plasteel ++ wake up sheeple ++