#psyker-class

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uneven compass
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how much damage is that blazing adding? I ran outta plasteel just now tryna get it

lethal lagoon
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At 30? Practice on 3s until you don't get dogged or trapped and then do normal t5s

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Don't worry, most of us don't mind "drags" as long as they aren't queueing for auric maels lmao

bleak tulip
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its a lot

wheat quartz
burnt mulch
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my friends and i do 4s and they're nicely challenging for us (we wipe on 5s)

lethal lagoon
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Oh, you aren't pubbing?

wheat quartz
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because the soulblaze on crit hits the entire radius equally

lethal lagoon
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Then do normal t5s, try some low ints

burnt mulch
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i'm gonna do some pubbing in a bit

uneven compass
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damn, if i could roll a blazing id have a near perfect rolled trauma staff to apply it to but getting plasteel is rough

burnt mulch
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my friends are mostly EU so they're asleep xD

lethal lagoon
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t5 low ints aren't bad.

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You can run t3s untill you see one

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but t4 pubs are brutal, don't do those lmao

bleak tulip
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I should be asleep Aware

wheat quartz
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pub auric damnation is alright

static needle
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best blessings on Purge staff for hordes?

wheat quartz
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generally win more than lose

cerulean lily
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@static needle didn’t see anything come through

static needle
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well i sent everything

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and added u

cerulean lily
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Didn’t see any dm

burnt mulch
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i'll try a 2 i think, thanks

cerulean lily
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Dang

uneven compass
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ya auric damnation tends to have some decent players who stick together. Def feels the best to play once youre at that level of skill to carry your own weight there

static needle
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ill post here

potent echo
lethal lagoon
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Do not do a 2 you'll be so bored, at least do 3.

wheat quartz
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because crits apply 2 stacks of soulblaze

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nexus flurry is the best purgatus

burnt mulch
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my sibling of the imperium, i dont think you understand how bad i am 😂

lethal lagoon
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Run assail, no ones that bad 😆

burnt mulch
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LOL

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didn't it just get nerfed?

static needle
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Surge blessing is fuggin: feels_ChefKissfeels_ChefKissfeels_ChefKiss

lethal lagoon
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Barely

static needle
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@cerulean lily

cerulean lily
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Thanks a ton

static needle
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np

potent echo
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Surge is so unusable this patch don't do it to yourself KEKW_ogryn

long wharf
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not right now it isn't

lethal lagoon
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He meant surge blessing I assume

static needle
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what

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wym

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heresy

uneven compass
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2 is like omega easy unless youre very new to the game, 3 is imo gives you the best feel for how the game actually plays in terms of density and stuff, from there it just gets better and better

static needle
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stahp it

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surge is amazing

lethal lagoon
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They broke surge staff again lmao

static needle
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bro i mean surge blessing

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blud

potent echo
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Oh voidstrike is fine then

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But I rather take flurry / transfer anyday

long wharf
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yep, nevermind, surge blessing is still meta for void damage

uneven compass
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whats surge blessing do?

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2 shots of what

static needle
static needle
potent echo
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Surge is cringe

static needle
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double crit

potent echo
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So situational

cerulean lily
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@static needle how do you like the surge blessing over flurry ?

bleak tulip
uneven compass
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so when it crits it just hits twice?

static needle
static needle
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it takes entirely too long

potent echo
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Problem with surge is that you can't determine when it works, only when you have true aim up, but you don't really get to determine when you get true aim up

static needle
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surge + nexus is far easier to set up

keen slate
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This is the gayest vet I've seen

static needle
bleak tulip
static needle
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u need a horde

potent echo
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Yea 33% of maybe killing the rager, but no crit then he doesn't die

bleak tulip
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im not talking its better I am just flabbergasted by your weird ass take

static needle
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or very good aim

potent echo
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Then you crit when shooting 3 poxwalkers and the other ball goes sailing off

bleak tulip
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bro just click on their MASSIVE heads with your big fat blue ball

static needle
bleak tulip
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you dont even have to aim with void like 90% of the time

burnt mulch
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how do you get rank 58?

bleak tulip
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mod

burnt mulch
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oh

potent echo
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Damnation?

static needle
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yes, cause double crit is that good @potent echo

burnt mulch
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do you get 28 extra talent points?

bleak tulip
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just shows your total level nah

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no talent points

burnt mulch
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oh alright

vagrant frigate
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I think I'ma vet player now

bleak tulip
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its just a way to tell ohw much someone palyed

potent echo
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I don't think you can kill rager with 2/3 charge with surge

keen slate
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The fucking who?

burnt mulch
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a small part of me regrets not giving my char a silly name

bleak tulip
static needle
burnt mulch
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but i'm a lore/RP nerd 😔

potent echo
static needle
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in the cutscene

bleak tulip
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she owns the ship

static needle
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idfk what she do

bleak tulip
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its literally her ship

vagrant frigate
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I made a vet build that's even more ADHD than my melee psyker build

keen slate
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I've seen her only in old ass trailer

bleak tulip
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thats what she do

static needle
potent echo
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I mean Im pretty sure I have more play time with void, considering I used both builds extensively

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You should try flurry transfer first

static needle
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okidoke

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i just dont really like the playstyle of needing to spam before big chunky charge shot

bleak tulip
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flurry transfer is the comfy build to get you used to the stick

potent echo
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Also make sure your void has unarmored so you can 1 shot dreg gunner head KEKW_ogryn

static needle
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say what

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im running flak

potent echo
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Dreg gunner head is unarmored

static needle
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low charge or normal spam shot

potent echo
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1 fully charged ball

static needle
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wtf

potent echo
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You line up dreg gunners

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Release

static needle
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who needs a fully charged ball to kill dregs? not me, only need to spam 2/3 charge at high peril

burnt mulch
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me anguish

bleak tulip
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you wanna fully charge because you want that shit to murder the whole gunner ball

potent echo
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When you are at long range and they are behind cover

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You hit them and then fall down behind cover

static needle
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hmmm

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maybe so

bleak tulip
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a lot of the time when you "kill" special with a 60% shot you just knock em over tbh

potent echo
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Also if you can the jump on a patrol you can wipe most of them out, then PC kicks in

static needle
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idk man

bleak tulip
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on damnation you kinda need to charge to like 80+ to kill gunners reliably

static needle
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i felt like instead of changing blessing to transfer i would rather just change perk to flak dmg

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so at least im not missing out on flak dmg

potent echo
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Flak unarmored

static needle
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no what

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never

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ever

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waste of perk imo

wanton sandal
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what's the schtick with blazing trauma? i don't feel like it does anything different than my flurry trauma other than not having rending

bleak tulip
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I mean that covers like 90% of breeds' heads

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I dont run that but its not awful by any means

royal ibex
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'try the new mission out on damnation, get to final stand, suddenly normandy beach landing levels of gunners'

static needle
bleak tulip
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enemies

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enemy types

static needle
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my aim isnt that good

bleak tulip
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doesnt have to be, void projectile is big

static needle
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hmmm

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ok

bleak tulip
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you can literally shoot between two dudes and headshot em both lol

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fuck around with it in psykh

proud hinge
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hello! what is the go-to purgatus build? thanks 😄

violet flax
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just tried the base version of the white flame staff thing, okay this thing shreds and it's not even upgraded lol

royal ibex
static needle
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well shit too late now i changed perk to flak and now i cant change to transfer peril

proud hinge
potent echo
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Flurry nexus is fine too I guess

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Oh yea the hottest news off the press

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Smite and true aim

proud hinge
royal ibex
potent echo
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Unyielding you should put on your melee

royal ibex
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then idfk, whatever soul blaze talents you can get and warp cahrges with 10% chance on soulblaze kills for charges

royal ibex
bleak tulip
royal ibex
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flak maniac is a decent all rounder this was just another option i got given

potent echo
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Thing about soulblaze is it works off whatever weapon you currently have equipped

static needle
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but like... when there's a bunch of crushers/maulers running toward you in close quarters, will u really have time to be able to set up the surge shot with transfer peril and true aim? @potent echo

potent echo
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So usually for bosses/reapers you would max their burn stacks then which to melee

royal ibex
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i like this one so im sticking with it

potent echo
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Apply uncanny

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And watch that fire rip through their hp

potent echo
static needle
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how?

potent echo
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Flurry makes you shoot faster so it does help

keen slate
potent echo
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You hit a head you get some peril quelled

frank moat
potent echo
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Adds up over time

burnt mulch
static needle
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so would u say that my build with surge + nexus is worse than using nexus + flurry? @potent echo

frank moat
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Can't wait until AdMech reject drops and I can ditch you freaks

potent echo
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Flurry just gives me more control of how to use the staff

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With nexus surge, since it charges so slow I'm incentised to just throw out half charged shots

onyx sentinel
potent echo
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Esp in high pressure situations

static needle
keen slate
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I just heard the best voice line from loner psyker

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"AHA! STAIRS!"

violet flax
potent echo
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And they have a 33% chance of accomplishing something good

static needle
burnt mulch
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is there a wiki or webpage or anything with the ingame dialogue/chat snippets?

potent echo
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But also not 33% because you aren't at max nexus all the time

static needle
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whats the crit bonus for voidstrike staff?

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ye true

bleak tulip
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idk probably the base

static needle
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which is?

strong gulch
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@plucky flax The new map felt really good with fire trauma.

bleak tulip
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7.5

royal ibex
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new map is pain ont he final stretch lmao. i dont like seeing 10 gunners opposite a massive sightline with barely any cover

bleak tulip
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go into the funny funnel

royal ibex
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'still cleared it, did have both vets die though lmao;'

north cradle
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I thought Purgatus/Brain Burst worked fine for the new map, though I was only playing on vanilla Damnation. Top of the leaderboard for most of the kills and damage taken. The Veteran had me beat for melee Elites

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The way the map is constructed definitely lends itself well to fire

potent echo
uneven compass
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having bubble on that new map auric damnation really felt suuuuuper good

royal ibex
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my issue was i went laspistol scryers/assail so my range was limited, and when iu went for one gunner i had 2 others firing at me, the crit = dodge ranged saved me a lot

potent echo
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Finale someone pinged the entrance to the event, we just camped there, so easy KEKW_ogryn

north cradle
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Telekine Shield on this map sounds like a good idea actually

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Lots of enemy sightlines on the start and the end of the map

severe folio
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how is it broken again

potent echo
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Yea shield would be very good for the map

north cradle
severe folio
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oh

royal ibex
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shield seems like itd make it a joke

severe folio
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does that mean surge staff can be used with DD now

potent echo
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On the flip side, the hottest new build

royal ibex
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same time i need to mainline that scryers fentynal so

severe folio
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since it has a chance to target the head

uneven compass
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surge in my last match felt really, really bad unfortunately. Took me 7....7 full charges to take out an ogryn

potent echo
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Since smite can also headshot, smite true aim is real

severe folio
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lets

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goooo

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scrier finess surge staff here i come

potent echo
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Smite true aim > blaze trauma/void surge

severe folio
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wait

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how does smite headshot

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smite has a chance to target separate limb too ?

potent echo
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Smite also randomly targets bodyparts

severe folio
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thats craazy

potent echo
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Yea and since it hits soany things so many times

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You get true aim really fast

severe folio
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does this actually mean we are actually gonna use DD with this

uneven compass
# north cradle That's awful

the poor knife zealot i was trying to help that was corned by him i swear i could feel how dissapointed he was in me

potent echo
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Nothing

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You use it with blaze trauma

static needle
severe folio
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why not DD

potent echo
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And take blaze/rending

severe folio
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its gonna buff weakspot damage

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NO

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I WANT SURGE

potent echo
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Yea but true aim for trauma sounds so much better

fading iris
severe folio
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yeah but fundamentally its kinda weird to use both smite and trauma

potent echo
primal plume
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Purgatus user

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Theyre the first to die

potent echo
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No need to just roll a 33% chance

primal plume
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nice fart cloud, loser

severe folio
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did you die with purgatus

potent echo
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Purgatus is a movement test

severe folio
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yeah dying with the best staff is kind of embarrassing

primal plume
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maybe in sedition

potent echo
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It is though

bold maple
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your momma

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maybe in my bed

feral seal
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Best staff glape

severe folio
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i mean im not omega auric damnation

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but i have been consistently damnating with purg

static needle
clear heath
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wow the current maelstrom condition looks fun

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nurgles blessing monstrious specials

feral seal
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Purg feels annoying when constantly being slapped with specials in stuff like shock gauntlet

primal plume
feral seal
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I always just swap to smite

severe folio
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i still think its a bit odd to have both smite and purg

north cradle
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Purgatus is what you use in between bursting Specialists' brains

severe folio
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you have a cc tool but your weapon also cc

north cradle
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It works out pretty well for me

severe folio
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your purg is suppose to be the cc and boss tools

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or the tool to wittle down specials

feral seal
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Well smite and assail are the only two obvious choices, and assail got slapped a bit more this patch

primal plume
severe folio
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ok

north cradle
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I hesitate to refer to DoT as CC, but that could just be my Warframe brain talking. I always thought of CC as ways to slow down the enemy, whereas Purgatus just lights them on fire. Granted, a lot of mob enemies get Suppressed when flames are being shot near them, so I suppose it doubles as CC

severe folio
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im actually at work

fading iris
feral seal
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Brain rupture is a meme cheers

severe folio
north cradle
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Oh yeah I forgot there's an LMB for Purgatus

severe folio
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no not the lmb

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the rmb

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well the lmb has another use

foggy thorn
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Man, is there a cheese or anything that could let me solo malleus monstronum cuz i have no friends to help me do it now that its priv match only..

potent echo
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That's like the best part of purg KEKW_ogryn

feral seal
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I wanna justify trauma and purg but rupture feels so WEAK, it feels much stronger to rely on smite for cc and use surge(rip) or void

primal plume
keen slate
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Yeaa, pyro psyker is cracked

potent echo
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Solo 20 maulers easy

severe folio
primal plume
potent echo
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10 ragers run at you, just lmb spam

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Better than smite confirmed KEKW_ogryn

uneven compass
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the only thing i hate about using purg is you cant see shit half the time lol

severe folio
potent echo
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Also purg lmb vs bulwarks

feral seal
fading iris
potent echo
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Opens them up immediately if you dont hit the shield

severe folio
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im pretty sure the lmb dont stagger bulwark or crusher anymore

orchid shadow
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Jeez, need to chain 4 crits to kill a crusher now with Surge. Those Crusher packs are going to be a nightmare now

north cradle
potent echo
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Bulwarks forsure

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Crusher no

feral seal
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Different game kyungwalk

potent echo
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Lmb doesn't really blind if that concerns you

severe folio
upbeat parcel
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for crowd control melee should I go illisi or devil's claw

primal plume
potent echo
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And lmb will kill the ragers regardless if the team is there or not, unlike smite

north cradle
fading iris
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hours before a patch that broke some psyker knees went live, coincidence? I THINK NOT

feral seal
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In kf2 firebugs stumble enemies with flame weapons which makes it harder for your team to hit headshots and makes the fight more chaotic, which can be annoying

north cradle
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Also there's another perk that gives enemies a 30% chance to explode when they die by fire

severe folio
severe folio
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i mean, enemies def do not stumble but are taken back, stand still

potent echo
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That's a totally different game though

feral seal
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It's a different game yeah

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Dark tide is meant to be chaotic

severe folio
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well theyre using a different game for a referance of what happen to flamed enemies

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but see here

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thats just not what the purg do

feral seal
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Also purg staff by itself is better than firebug in it's entirety KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
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New map is awesome. And unoptimized as fuck. Lost at the finale because of the lag snd stutters

severe folio
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excellent

bold maple
severe folio
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shatfark still have their sense

severe folio
feral seal
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Purg just always felt kinda mid to me, but I'm just not the right person for it I guess

bold maple
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dont you mean >brain rupture

severe folio
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urgh

feral seal
severe folio
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what kind of demon do you think is waiting for us at the end of peril

stuck bridge
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bleh im not havin fun this patch

severe folio
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i hope its slaanesh

feral seal
bold maple
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slaanesh is busy with the elves

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rejects too ugly for their taste

stuck bridge
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map is cool but i wish theyd test their shit before release

potent echo
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The AI director buff alot

spice veldt
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is gr8

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i like it

severe folio
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only the imperium have the essence of discrimination

feral seal
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Final boss will be hadron with all the weapons she bricked that you sold

severe folio
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that would be not okay

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against a heretik

potent echo
onyx sentinel
feral seal
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I'm gonna have to make a decent void staff to replace my really good surge when I get home until it's fixed suffering

onyx sentinel
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You want to spam trauma to kill things so it procs perilous combustion and wildfire

potent echo
feral seal
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Well blaze trauma is good because the burn radius even on uncharged attacks is wide

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As long as we have dueling sword, we will all be okay..

potent echo
feral seal
strong gulch
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Since surge nerf, I do a lot less overkill damage.

sour bison
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trauma nerfed, void nerfed, surge nerfed

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we are glass cannon without cannon again

viscid matrix
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Void is still a monster

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Can still knock everything on its ass

near wyvern
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Psylot is still not mid KEKW_ogryn

sour bison
viscid matrix
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Void can still 1shot everything that’s not a crusher or monstrosity

near wyvern
viscid matrix
potent echo
near wyvern
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I just need to update the combo guides

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I found the peril building comb

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o

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you do 3-4 LMB always when you start and then one RMB to finish it off

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if you need to build more you do that combo again

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then once you get to high perils

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you weave 2 shards between your knife / columnus fire to keep it up

viscid matrix
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Assail is still powerful, just only use it 70% of the map instead of 100%

near wyvern
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LMB is faster than RMB in building peril

spice veldt
viscid matrix
sour bison
potent echo
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Void nerfed?

sour bison
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its the same effect for FS code

near wyvern
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so it's opitmal to use the least amount of RMB when building but still the right amount that you don't run out of shards

viscid matrix
spice veldt
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what effect

sour bison
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was nerfed before

potent echo
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Lol

spice veldt
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alright

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what got nerfed

potent echo
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Also by process of elimination

potent echo
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You know what's the strongest staff

near wyvern
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gotta get mid-short range and keep moving

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all the damage of the build is there

sour bison
potent echo
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Exactly

spice veldt
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they share the special, bolt, and presumably the outer explosion on the RMB

sour bison
spice veldt
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but I doubt that any nerfs to either of that will impact the trauma

near wyvern
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I don't see any nerfs here

sour bison
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last time i tried trauma it sucked

spice veldt
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damage seems to be the same, and same goes for the blast radius

sour bison
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idk

feral seal
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Alright I'll need to make a purg later, what do y'all recommend for it so I can experience PEAK purg?

spice veldt
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bruh

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so you're just making shit up?

feral seal
sour bison
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maybe

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its 8 am and i sitting at work

potent echo
near wyvern
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@spice veldt I tried smite + blaze rending trauma for the luls now that you can farm true aim with smite, it works but it's not as smooth and safe than just traditional spirit nexus spam

fading iris
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Ofc the Necron is trolling KEKW_ogryn

strong gulch
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Charge rate. 🥲

near wyvern
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on the other hand, smite with creeping flames and revolver works really well

feral seal
near wyvern
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you zap targets, notice something dangerous, give it a guaranteed crit headshot and back to zapping

potent echo
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Also you need the staff tech

feral seal
sour bison
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did they fix smite LMB effect or tooltip btw?

near wyvern
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we talking abut blitz cancel here again?

potent echo
sour bison
near wyvern
potent echo
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You can slide forward while charging purg

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That's how you fight shooters

near wyvern
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you can slide forward while channeling anything

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or charging anything

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more so

potent echo
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Yea trauma or void too

strong gulch
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I wish I could blitz cancel. I don't have the needed sort of brains for it.

near wyvern
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BB hands as well

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smite as well

potent echo
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But most useful on purg, really makes a difference

near wyvern
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Trauma it's vital

potent echo
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Trauma against shooters too yea

feral seal
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So how does purg handle like 10 gunners across a room

strong gulch
near wyvern
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you can just skate within a horde and not give a dime

viscid matrix
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@near wyvern any idea what that obscuros change is?

potent echo
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Or just mobility in general

potent echo
sour bison
near wyvern
near wyvern
potent echo
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Find a flanking route, sprint slide, etc

near wyvern
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but lighting storm (+1 LMB targets) is a waste of a point

potent echo
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It's mainly a movement puzzle, since the actual killing part is just rmb lmb

viscid matrix
feral seal
severe folio
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learning that i could slide around with purg has made it much more flexible for me

potent echo
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You can also play backline purg, just kill anything trying to backstab the team, though you would mainly rely on lmb stagger > switch to melee

heady garnet
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Does the "fuck you in particular" talent that regens toughness when an ally gets cc'ed work on assassination boss knockback?

near wyvern
# viscid matrix

light spam damage seems better now but the moveset is still absoulte ass

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takes 3-4 special heavies to kill a crusher

feral seal
near wyvern
sour bison
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also how many charges does it takes for surge to kill a crusher?

near wyvern
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even BB is faster

sour bison
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now

potent echo
near wyvern
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were crushers always 2 shot with EP buff (BB)

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?

onyx sentinel
potent echo
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After roasting the crushers, switch to uncanny melee, rending plus soulblaze on crushers do real damage

viscid matrix
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Surge is back to its 4 shot to kill crusher

feral seal
strong gulch
near wyvern
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because the fucking limb roulette

near wyvern
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now you know how much I have used BB since P13 xD

feral seal
sour bison
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is there any reason at all to use surge now?

near wyvern
sour bison
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great

near wyvern
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you can build for it, it just takes quite a lot of effort and then you will ask yourself, why didn't I just go with a void and be a lot more flexible with my build

#

It's usable, sure

#

but not in a great spot at the moment

#

it went from broken to below purgatus xD

potent echo
#

Purg lets you dive into any situation and still get out of it alive

near wyvern
feral seal
#

Purg the solo clutcher??

potent echo
#

Yea for sure

onyx sentinel
potent echo
near wyvern
#

not recommending

#

I said it works

#

but it's not smooth

#

it's quite clunky to switch between smite and trauma

onyx sentinel
#

Not you another guy even before lol

near wyvern
#

and then try to watch when you have those 5 stacks

feral seal
#

I mean if would work but if you wanna do damage with smite psionics is just better

near wyvern
feral seal
potent echo
#

The zealot weapon?

#

You can still run psionics, just no more cdr KEKW_ogryn

burnt granite
#

Is it so over for surge staff users? I hear that the lightning randomly chooses a part to zap

feral seal
sour bison
#

rip surge

feral seal
#

Does purg work without vent?

potent echo
#

You would want vent to deal with gunners and shooters

near wyvern
#

if you take assail you have a way of dealing with gunners

#

then just uncanny strike melee and you are good to go

sour bison
#

mb will use purg with purg + vent + smite now

potent echo
#

Or you can take assail

#

Purg and smite have zero synergy

feral seal
#

I'm a bubble enjoyer kyungwalk

near wyvern
#

yeah I would not go smite with purg, too much overlap

sour bison
#

maybe

near wyvern
#

assail or br

primal plume
#

Can this be salvaged?

potent echo
#

I prefer br because of the nodes

primal plume
sour bison
#

now tooltip doesnt lie

primal plume
#

I know that. But did it always do more damage?

near wyvern
#

and guess what the damage is

sour bison
near wyvern
#

around 35 DPS for LMB and 40DPS for RMB per target

tame venture
primal plume
azure bridge
#

complete meta slave question here, but which is technically more useful for an aura, the cooldown reduction one or the crit chance one?

primal plume
#

what about this one

sour bison
#

oh u talking about purg

near wyvern
sour bison
#

???

near wyvern
#

purg deals a lot more DPS cause soulblaze

tame venture
#

But who's on first?

sour bison
#

but 400?

feral seal
#

Is purg really dependent on crit to make the damage work?

long wharf
#

is it me or did they reduce void damage again?

#

seems like it charges more slowly, but I'm not 100% sure on that

fading iris
sour bison
mortal breach
sour bison
#

but other blessings are worse

feral seal
sour bison
tame venture
#

Crits apply 2 burns iirc

potent echo
#

Yea

#

But don't go crit aura

#

Or crit chance

#

Nexus is enough

tame venture
#

You'd really like to have them, but iirc you aren't desperate for them

potent echo
#

The 5% in the tree and nexus is already really good

fading iris
#

dmg to elits aura gangwhatthefuck_heresy

potent echo
#

No KEKW_ogryn use the cdr

#

More creeping flames more fire

sour bison
#

huh

potent echo
#

Also creeping flames stacks on top of purg stacks

tame venture
potent echo
#

Purg stacks up to 15-16, creeping flames up to 21-22

sour bison
#

guess its purging time

potent echo
#

Then cdr and warpsiphon more creeping flames

#

More purging

tame venture
#

Dumb question, how big of an area does shriek effect anyway? I always feel like I need to be in breathing distance

potent echo
#

Unironically I roll with a low warp res purg because you can't build up peril fast enough otherwise KEKW_ogryn

potent echo
#

I need to check again

#

Through walls and cover too

tame venture
#

30 meters???

potent echo
#

It's really far yea

sour bison
potent echo
#

Definitely longer than surge staff

sour bison
#

its long yeah

tame venture
potent echo
#

Yea you always want to use it at max peril

#

Or > 85/86

sour bison
#

i have almost perfect surge

#

and it suck

potent echo
#

So all the gunners and shooters in cover, press shriek, they will die

feral seal
#

Bubble protects me from da shooters

tame venture
#

Does it apply the blaze too?

azure bridge
#

does this game have friendly fire?

tame venture
#

No

sour bison
north cradle
#

Sort of

feral seal
#

I like playing a more team support psyker, that's why I usually play bubble and smite

potent echo
#

Shriek does if you take creeping flames, which you always should

feral seal
#

Surge is my pick for special and elite sniping the lazy way and void if I'm feeling sweaty

long wharf
#

I'm definitely feeling the reduced damage from Warp Rider

north cradle
#

There is 'collision' on hitscan weapons but it doesn't hurt your teammates. The only way to hurt your teammates is by planting breaching charges on walls

long wharf
#

void still seems to be charging more slowly

north cradle
#

Projectiles phase through teammates, though it's not like there are many of them.

potent echo
#

some bullets get stopped by teammates

#

Like autoguns

surreal eagle
potent echo
#

Or autopistol

north cradle
#

I thought those were hitscan

potent echo
#

Yea hitscan bullets

#

Not saying you wrong just adding on

north cradle
#

Ah alright. In the biz, projectiles refer to a ray that moves some engine's distance per tick, as I understand it. Hitscan is just a ray that registers a hit between the origin and whatever stops it

feral seal
north cradle
#

Mind bullets, flamer plumes, Rumbler grenades, Blastoom grenades, Voidstrike balls, these all pass through teammates

#

Autogun bullets, bolter bolts, and lasgun shots get stopped by teammates

sinful peak
#

So I just swapped from assail to smite and I’m having trouble figuring out how to use it, if there’s a horde I pull out illisi, if there’s a lot of elites I mow them down with voidstrike, I don't ever find myself in a situation where I'd want to use smite over my other options. Am I missing something

north cradle
#

You ideally want to use Smite if there are a bunch of melee Elites you can't handle by yourself

#

Or to halt Disablers

feral seal
#

Smite is for the 5 crusher and 10 rager wave when there's also a huge trash hoard and 3 flamers mixed in

north cradle
#

True, I forgot about Flamers

sinful peak
north cradle
#

I think of it this way for all three Blitz options:

Assail: To use against shooters, most Elites, and most Specialists
Surge: To use against melee Elites, Crushers, and Flamers```
fading iris
#

Just LMB everything chadgryn

north cradle
#

Hell yeah

fading iris
#

more time to spam cheers

north cradle
#

To defend my dream

strong gulch
north cradle
#

Honestly though, Brain Burst got shafted in Patch 13. The fact I can't one-shot Scab Ragers without Empowered Psionics feels really bad

fading iris
north cradle
#

I do need to adjust some of my builds now that Surge Staff is broken in the bad way now

#

Voidstrike hasn't been touched, right?

mortal breach
#

I don't think I've ever seen the voidstrike Crit staff blessing yet so I might look for that to replace my surge

north cradle
#

Warp Nexus or Surge?

mortal breach
#

The two shot one

#

Surge I guess

#

Confusing name

north cradle
#

There are two Veteran talents called Always Prepared

fading iris
supple skiff
#

oo we breaking out the tin foil

north cradle
#

Lay it on me sir

fading iris
#

that is stuff indicating that changes to the body parts system were made and those changes got f up

#

if that is true, voidstrike could be affected too

#

you aim that big ball of fun... ding hand damage, get rekt nerd

north cradle
#

In that an enemy who gets struck in the arm first, because they're a shooter, will take reduced damage?

viscid matrix
fading iris
#

psykers in general where eating good with the warp rider bug, that being fixed + the possible body parts system change that is something that affects everything

north cradle
#

Warp Rider was a bug? It worked that way before Patch 13 where it gave you a damage buff

viscid matrix
viscid matrix
north cradle
#

Oh gae

fading iris
#

but first, if you are feeling something weird with the damage and was using warp driver, is probably the fix

north cradle
#

I remember that the old talent tree at level 10 gave you a damage bonus even at 0% Peril

fading iris
supple skiff
#

they decide when things become bugs I suppose lol

#

curious to see how th elimb damage plays out

fading iris
#

besides that, same ol' thing, same thing with assail, I'm not a assail spammer, I shoot in moderation, so 3s is just more happy thoughts before murdering heretics for my beloved muklukDennis

primal plume
#

Whats the meta for trauma staff?

harsh urchin
north cradle
#

I use Assail for dealing with shooters, and during Hunting Grounds missions, the Pox Hounds. It really takes the edge off that modifier

viscid matrix
#

check the guide

north cradle
#

Also if the Veteran is running Survivalist, easy ammo

fading iris
#

I like to use a lot the LMB from the surge, the limb thing even helps me on that front

#

but I would prefer that in case of a bug, fix itKEKW_ogryn

#

if is a feature why and then hope is because of some new weapon that requires the changepogryn

orchid shadow
#

That kind of change should have been rolled out with the new weapon then, if it was intended for future proof then it needed an explanation. I don't think it's even in the patch notes. When you make the changes for future features, you still have got ask yourself, "Is this fun, NOW?" If it's not, the changes a month from now are useless to the player.

lethal lagoon
#

3 patchs of wanting to play EP smite surge, time to wait for number 4 whatthefuck_heresy

fading iris
fading iris
orchid shadow
lethal lagoon
#

I don't like bugged builds, good or bad.

feral seal
lethal lagoon
#

Surge randomly doing less damage cause it hits a limb is infurating.

fading iris
lethal lagoon
#

Especially when you were excepting it to one shot a shooter mob or something.

#

It still works, but the point of a game is having fun

rare arrow
#

was there a change to warp rider?

fading iris
lethal lagoon
#

EP smite with flaming shierk is really fun though, I'll probably just roll a revolver or something

fading iris
#

and I don't know if was 10% always + 10% of the first threshold + 10% of the second (total 30) or always 10 then 20% when more perilKEKW_ogryn

spice veldt
#

it was 10%-20%

#

it was just old warp unleashed but with 20% as the upper bound

orchid shadow
fading iris
#

30% would've been maximum funnyomegalul

lethal lagoon
fading iris
#

the ideal was not get the muscle memory on that to after a fix end up missing

harsh urchin
orchid shadow
harsh urchin
#

Psyker has it rough rn lol

harsh urchin
#

I think only trauma and vs feel strong rn

orchid shadow
frank chasm
#

With max health curios (3 x 20%)

#

Sorry wrong build

#

That build but with a las pistol and missing the warp damage talents

#

I would send you a build link but I don’t have one for it yet

#

Dumdum and ghost on the las pistol too with +5% crit Chance

#

You’re functionally immune and faster than a zealot

ripe yacht
frank chasm
#

Game

frank chasm
harsh urchin
frank chasm
#

You don’t but it’s fun

harsh urchin
#

Cuz you can just take the node

#

That gives you ranged immunity

potent echo
#

Ghost is more consistent imo

frank chasm
#

and lasts longer

potent echo
#

Infernus is poopoo

frank chasm
#

Gives just about as much time for a reload

#

Infernus sucks

potent echo
#

Is even more poopoo without dumdum

frank chasm
#

But I had nothing better when I took the screenshot

#

I have Dum dum 4 on it now

potent echo
#

I see, yea I dont get why people love infernus

#

Maybe you get faster ttk on reapers and bosses

brittle cargo
#

Anybody think one of these is much better than the other? I’m leaning towards the left, putting warp flurry and change a perk. The difference in charge time is only 0.3 seconds so I feel like charge rate is not very important

frank chasm
#

I liked it while I was getting used to the build to get in the practice of critting and knowing when I was

potent echo
#

There's a sound for crits

potent echo
#

Warp resist you can get around it if you run warpsiphon + shriek

frank chasm
# potent echo There's a sound for crits

I play loud classical music while playing psyker because it feels right blasting Mozart and ignoring everything except the loudest enemy noises while playing a cackling madman

#

not optimal I know

#

But fun

potent echo
#

Understandable

severe folio
lethal lagoon
severe folio
#

very unfortunate

severe folio
harsh urchin
#

Especially if you're adding 0.3 seconds to every right click

#

How much time is that over a game

potent echo
#

It adds up alot over time

#

Like 3 blasts you already have 1 extra second of doing nothing

severe folio
#

combine with flurry

primal plume
#

Is this even worth the point?

brittle cargo
#

Putting flurry on the left staff and changing one of the perks would be a significant upgrade though right? Or is it not worth it?

harsh urchin
#

I wouldnt use a staff without a highroll charge rate personally

#

Stuff like dmg, etc 70-80 is ideal

#

But stuff that affects how the weapon feels

#

Like charge rate or attackspeed i would aim for 77-80

brittle cargo
#

So what’s the dump stat on trauma staff then?

#

Quell speed?

potent echo
#

Yea

#

Quell speed or warp resist

#

Ideally split

#

Lose abit of damage is okay too, but charge rate 80 yea

bitter escarp
#

doesn't matter for blaze trauma though, does it?

potent echo
#

Damage just needs to be there for breakpoints, mainly one shot bruisers

bitter escarp
#

it's a stick for spreading soulblaze

potent echo
#

You still want to at least be able to oneshot bruisers

fading iris
#

you're a psyker, just yeet your teammates into the mobs whatthefuck_heresy

severe folio
#

yeet the mob into your teammates

#

make a crusher crash into the team

fading iris
#

that could work too

potent echo
#

You can do that with Deimos too KEKW_ogryn

#

Still not fixed btw

#

Maybe it's intended

severe folio
#

they always fall to the right

potent echo
#

It even stops mutants

#

Amazing

#

If it doesn't die

#

Which it won't because warp rider nerf

severe folio
#

oh yeah they nerf that

harsh urchin
severe folio
#

well im always at max peril so no different for me

fading iris
#

I mean... it wasn't nerfed, was fixed

frail sand
#

need a mod to rename peril to pearls

harsh urchin
#

surge bug removed, unbugged surge gutted, handcannon assail bug removed, unbugged assail gutted, warp rider nerfed

analog agate
fading iris
#

I really like how the RMB on surge and the charge speeds are, if I change staffs, would probably change to smite blitz then using voidstrike or trauma...

#

and after that the one I choose would probably get a weird bug or nerf

analog agate
#

56%

potent echo
#

Does it oneshot the shirtless ones KEKW_ogryn

analog agate
#

Yes

potent echo
#

Alright then around that is probably enough

analog agate
#

I have no clue what the actual breakpoint is anymore on it. Dmg probably matters if you don't fully charge

#

But I always do

small hornet
#

What does Surge do

#

What the hell is that description lmao

analog agate
#

doubles your shot. bis for that

fading iris
#

don't need to worry about power if you always slap the heretic with all your might

potent echo
#

44% though ouch

#

Extract

burnt mulch
#

can someone quickly explain to me how to use the Purgatus staff?

potent echo
#

What are you having issues with?

burnt mulch
#

I'm not doing damage

plush basalt
#

is there a reason venting shriek is always taken on purgatus builds?

potent echo
#

How so

burnt mulch
#

all i've done is blind my friend LOL

#

uhhh, i wave my hand, white clouds come out

potent echo
#

Do the rmb charge

#

Unleash, repeat

#

Apply on hordes

#

Apply on elites

#

Apply on bosses

burnt mulch
#

oh is it like "charge up duration, shoot fire for duration you charged?"

potent echo
#

Yea

#

You shoot for longer

plush basalt
#

can I take bubble shield on a purgatus build instead of venting shriek, or is there something with venting shriek applying to purgatus?

potent echo
#

Than you charge

charred edge
#

except its white fire so it looks cooler

potent echo
#

So it's valuable to charge longer

small hornet
plush basalt
#

surge staff is way worse now

potent echo
#

So your purgatus applies max 15

#

Creeping adds it to 21

plush basalt
#

ahh

potent echo
#

Also it vents

#

And deals with shooters

frail sand
#

more sustain

potent echo
#

Stagger gunners to let you close in

small hornet
#

Surge Staff is still good enough to 2-3 shot most elites, so it's still decent

#

better than purg imo

burnt mulch
edgy wyvern
#

purge for groups and heavys

potent echo
#

I've never seen this guy in psyker chat ever KEKW_ogryn

edgy wyvern
#

surge for single trgt dmg

small hornet
#

Well they're fundamentally used for 2 different purposes

#

But imo Purg just feels bad

#

at least to me

potent echo
#

Purg is a movement puzzle

jolly vale
#

I'm really trying, but surge is just not putting out that on paper damage

burnt mulch
#

i basically have no idea if anything i do is effective, or doing any damage 😎

potent echo
#

By itself it has unparralleled damage and control, you just need to get close

small hornet
#

Holdup, you're telling me Surge is bad single target damage?

edgy wyvern
#

purge does good against everything cept carapace i think

small hornet
#

If you're using surge for hordes, you're insane

#

just use shards

potent echo
#

Also suppresses

jolly vale
#

Oops nope I meant rupture

edgy wyvern
#

i mean surge not purge

jolly vale
#

Istg I'm dyslexic or something

small hornet
#

Surge is goated at killing Carapace tho

edgy wyvern
#

compared to othe defenses

jolly vale
#

rupture is really making me 🧐 at the damage numbers

tawny pebble
#

it took so long to get one

small hornet
#

Kills crushers in 3 full charges

tawny pebble
#

it took me this long to get a +1 wound curio

edgy wyvern
#

yes surge is really strong

burnt mulch
#

im just a confused little space wizard 😦

orchid shadow
jolly vale
#

Wait what is surge, I'm not seeing it

burnt mulch
#

is assail + revolver a decent combo?

tawny pebble
#

the nomanus staff

jolly vale
#

Assail is a good combo ues

small hornet
jolly vale
#

Yes*

small hornet
#

so I average it to 3

edgy wyvern
#

lightning staff

burnt mulch
#

i haaaate smite >.<

tawny pebble
#

each has their own playstyle

edgy wyvern
#

i like smite for hordes

tawny pebble
#

i like smite but also really love running trauma

#

but my teams don't like it

edgy wyvern
#

but BB is my fav blits

tawny pebble
#

so i opt for smite lol

jolly vale
#

Oh im so lost oh dear
What is surge, and what is the nomanus staff

tawny pebble
#

i

#

accidentally went into a Blitz conversation

#

thinking about staves

#

ignore me

orchid shadow
edgy wyvern
#

surge staff= lightning staff

supple skiff
#

so the finale for the new mission

tawny pebble
#

when people talk about surge staff, they refer to Nomanus

jolly vale
#

Oh so we aren't using the fire staff anymore

tawny pebble
#

Surge as an ability is a blitz

small hornet
supple skiff
#

last group I was in, someonw was under the impression you can close gates to stem enemy reinforcements, any truth to that

small hornet
#

via aiming

jolly vale
white egret
#

what perks are best for surge staff?

edgy wyvern
#

smite is the blits

frail sand
supple skiff
#

well shit

burnt mulch
#

if i have fun with the revolver, i have zero horde clear v_v

jolly vale
#

Oh dear maybe we should all get our reading glasses for this shit 🫠

edgy wyvern
#

smite or asail can help with horde

frail sand
burnt mulch
#

uhhh

#

fat blocky sword

#

I can't spell its name

frail sand
#

deimos?

#

catachan?

burnt mulch
#

the D sword

edgy wyvern
#

Illus is my fav force sword no animation lock

orchid shadow
small hornet
potent echo
burnt mulch
#

no, it's a force sword

#

they're the biggest ones i could find

potent echo
#

Illisi

#

Probably

burnt mulch
#

i think it's a deimos

#

i tried illisi and was struggling

supple skiff
white egret
#

they did for me when I played it this morning

supple skiff
#

hmm

#

think Id sooner just post up in a choke point versus trying to run around

#

granted I use void so im biased lol

long wharf
#

well, Assail can still be used full-time, but you have to be a bit more conservative with it

burnt mulch
#

jkhgkjfhkjfhgjghfkj I just revived a zealot and he was like "REMOVE THY HANDS >:("

tawny pebble
#

lol

#

depending on the personality you choose you can be a real dick to other players

burnt mulch
#

i have the wholesome psyker voice

potent echo
#

Dreamer psyker the best

tawny pebble
#

i liked the high pitched german voice but he ends up being so spiteful and condescending

edgy wyvern
#

Loner over here im so mean sometimes

burnt mulch
#

i have Savant

tawny pebble
supple skiff
#

I like loners lines but not so much the voice

jolly vale
#

I think we should all start using ogryn talk here from now on
Don't tell me about how you love the purgalitus mk VX tell me about the shooty-zappy

feral seal
#

THE TRAPPER IS DEEeeaaAaaEeAAAEEED

burnt mulch
#

and idk why but my guy is always napping in the dropship loading screen

#

he's just a sleepy lil dude :c

orchid shadow
small hornet
#

Tragic

celest hedge
#

i'm having trouble building EP stacks as a smite player

orchid shadow
celest hedge
#

is that my surge staff feels worst now? smite EP bug aside

small hornet
#

Ahhh I see

#

I only played 1 match with the staff so far

#

It felt SLIGHTLY weaker

edgy wyvern
#

didnt know this about Surge staff

orchid shadow
edgy wyvern
#

havent played it in a while because purge staff helps me against hordes

celest hedge
#

warp rider is fine, it should be 0% at 0% peril, since I think other talents like that are similar

small hornet
edgy wyvern
#

Ah "Feature"

orchid shadow
#

Also, what's your main weapon?

burnt mulch
#

is brain burst + revolver not the best combo to use?

lethal lagoon
static needle
#

Do i need 3 extra stamina for voidstrike warp nexus/warp flurry build and mk iv duelling sword

flint pawn
#

It's not as insane as others' achievements but I finally hit +100 on my Psyker 🙂

burnt mulch
#

do i need the Wildfire talent if i'm messing about with Perilous Combustion? (assail/revolver build)

velvet spear
#

wow they really did surge bois dirty eh

potent echo
#

Read atheneum if you want the nitty gritty details

smoky fractal
#

so the pinned guide said crit is bad on surge is this... too low?

jolly vale
potent echo
#

Tbh there should be a thread on it but

jolly vale
#

O_O

potent echo
#

The info only lives in psyker chat

smoky fractal
#

is really a nerf though if they fixed the bug?

wanton sandal
#

im pretty certain its just a bug

jolly vale
#

I just picked up surge, and it's working better than my purgatus

plush basalt
#

surge is terribad

#

especially with the limb bug on top of just trash dps now

potent echo
#

Yea just read around there

smoky fractal
#

it just doesnt do unyeilding that well

#

just take a demios with you

potent echo
jolly vale
#

Oh yeah, is there a good ad clear sword

burnt mulch
#

i would be so happy if i could wield sword + revolver at the same time

robust kayak
#

did yall get to test assail? is it still the best blitz?

jolly vale